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What you really
want to know is,
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how do you take your
radiant manuscript,
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get it turned into a
book, have people provide
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some sort of income
from it for you,
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so that you can
write another book?
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so that you can
write another book?
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And in the world that
we live in today,
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there's various
ways of doing that.
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You can get an agent.
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Tends to be chicken and egg.
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If you have a published
book, you'll get an agent.
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If you have an agent, you
may have a published book.
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But what if there isn't an
entry point for you yet?
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There is, of course,
always self-publishing
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There is, of course,
always self-publishing
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via the internet, and
there is the other route,
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which is sending
your manuscripts
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into literary magazines,
which are, however,
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deluged with manuscripts.
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So it's not easy, and some of
it, let's face it, is luck.
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You happen to be in the right
place at the right time.
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Your book happens
to hit a nerve.
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People respond to
maybe something
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People respond to
maybe something
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you published in the "New
Yorker" that happened recently,
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and bingo, you've got
a publishing contract.
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How to find an agent?
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Well, there is-- there's old
agents, middle-aged agents,
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and young agents.
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But of all of
those, what you need
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is to go with the
one who loves you.
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Somebody may want to just
collect you to add you
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Somebody may want to just
collect you to add you
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to their, quote, "stable."
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That may not necessarily
be the one you want.
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Someone may take you on
hoping to make a quick sale,
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and then when they don't
make that quick sale,
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you find that they're not really
answering your emails very
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quickly.
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That's probably not the
one you want either.
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How do you know who that
special person will be?
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How do you know who that
special person will be?
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It's sort of like the movies.
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Bells go off.
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They they have to love you.
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You have to love them, at least
enough to form a good working
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relationship.
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So you don't want to be
just a commodity for them,
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but you also don't want
to be their best friend.
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I think it's harder
in some ways than it
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was when I was in my
20s and starting out
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because, in those days,
not very many people wanted
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because, in those days,
not very many people wanted
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to be writers, whereas
now a lot of people do,
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and they can even go
to writing schools
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or take online courses
to help them do that.
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I don't think there's any
one secret formula that
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will make that happen for you.
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Time and place,
the moment, luck,
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connecting with someone who
actually can see what you've
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done, can see the worth in--
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done, can see the worth in--
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of what you've done--
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these are all--
they're all variables,
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and there's no way of making it.
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There's no surefire way
of making it happen.
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How valuable is it for
you to be able to speak
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in an intelligible
way about your book?
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I was in at the
beginning of all of this,
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I was in at the
beginning of all of this,
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so I go back to the point at
which you would find yourself
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on the radio show, and the
person would say to you,
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I haven't read your book.
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I'm not going to, and why
should anybody bother with it?
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What would you say?
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So you probably won't be
put in a position like that
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anymore because I don't think
people are that aggressive
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anymore about writers.
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And if they're going to have
them on the show at all,
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they're not going to
be that rude to them.
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they're not going to
be that rude to them.
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But it did used to
go on quite a bit,
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especially if you were,
excuse me, female.
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A little tip-- it's quite
frequently the interviewer
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will not have had a
chance to read your book,
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and if they're a pro,
they will confess that.
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They won't try to
wing it, and you
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will say, just ask me these
three or four questions,
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and we'll be fine.
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There's also workshops in
how to present your work,
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and people will
coach you in that.
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They'll help you learn
how to speak into the mic.
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They'll help you learn
how to speak into the mic.
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They will remind you that you
should have a big numbers watch
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and not go over the time
set because if you do,
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you're going to be cutting
into some other writer's
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allotted time.
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You'll make yourself
quite unpopular.
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So all of these things can
be learned and studied,
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and if you are a female
person, don't go up
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and if you are a female
person, don't go up
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on stage in a
really short skirt--
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just saying-- if you want
people to be paying attention
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to your work.
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Don't believe the
billboards good or bad.
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They're just somebody's view.
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If you think that a particular
individual has it in for you,
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and they're always writing
bad reviews of your book,
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and they're always writing
bad reviews of your book,
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you might ask them why
they're so obsessed.
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But I've written
a lot of reviews,
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but I'm not a
professional reviewer,
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so I don't write bad reviews.
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I will only write a review
of a book if I, first of all,
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have enjoyed it,
and second, have
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something to say
about it because you
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can enjoy a book quite well but
have nothing particular to say.
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How do you deal
with bad reviews?
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I think, when you're
young, these things
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go like an icicle
into your heart
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go like an icicle
into your heart
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because you think that, maybe,
there's some truth in them,
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or else you feel very maligned.
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So I think of a nice
Buddhist meditation app
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on your phone is very helpful.
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Time passes like a ripple.
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It fades away.
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Somebody in England
wrote a very acute thing,
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which was the only
person who sees
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all the bad reviews
of your book is you--
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you and, to some
extent, your publisher.
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you and, to some
extent, your publisher.
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So the rule about that
is if it's a good review,
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the publisher takes credit for
it, and if it's a bad review,
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it's your fault.
There's a wonderful book
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that you can read.
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It's called,
"Mortification-- Writers
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and Their Public
Shame," in which
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writers write about all the
awful things that have happened
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to them in public.
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And once you've read that,
you'll realize that whatever is
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going to happen to you
cannot be nearly as bad.
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I think my favorite
was a poet who had--
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I think my favorite
was a poet who had--
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his slim volume
had just come out,
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and he'd given the proverbial
reading in the bookstore
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with maybe three
people in attendance.
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On his way out,
feeling quite dejected
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he saw a rack of second
handbooks for sale.
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Much to his surprise, there
was his just-published volume.
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So curious, he picked
it up and opened it,
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and there on the fly leaf, it
said, to mom and dad, love him.
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and there on the fly leaf, it
said, to mom and dad, love him.
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His parents had
flogged his book.
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So it's not going to
be that bad for you,
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and you can cheer
yourself up quite
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a bit by reading this book.
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Suppose you have a reasonably
successful, or even
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a very successful, first
novel, your next task
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will be getting over the second
novel hurdle, which is often
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will be getting over the second
novel hurdle, which is often
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quite hard for people,
particularly when
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they're young because reviewers
and publishers will expect
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you to write another version
of what you've already written.
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You may not feel
inclined to do that.
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We were in a bed and
breakfast in Ireland one time,
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and the breakfast was very good.
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So we said, this is a very good
breakfast, and the man said,
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I used to be a chef.
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I used to be a chef.
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And we said, where
were you a chef,
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and he named a
restaurant in the town.
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And we said, we had dinner
there last night, and he said,
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and how was it?
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And we said, oh,
it was quite good.
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He said, anyone can
cook a good dinner once.
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So the message to the first
novel successful writer is now
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do it again.
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And once you've do--
done that, do it again.
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