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I think that you'll find that
all life, not only human life,
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but all life is
based on the ability
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to be creative, to
be able to change
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in the face of any situation.
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You know, spiders
do it, bees do it.
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Human beings-- every moment
of their life is creative.
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Anybody who's had a child knows
that that child is continually
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taking in and recreating what
they see, what they know,
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how they think in--
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in order to be able
to train themselves
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to deal with the world.
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And I think that
much of education,
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much of the university
much of public education
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teaches you not to think,
not to be creative,
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not to be different,
and in doing so,
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strangles its own culture.
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Your whole life has to be a
life of being creative if you're
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going to be, like, an artist.
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And that's really very
difficult because creativity
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is defined by how much money
it's worth by almost everyone.
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And so I-- I just
spend my time--
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I like being comfortable,
and I like having fun.
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But I never think
about know making
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anything beyond that because
what use is it, you know?
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You know, it's really,
actually, physically
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impossible to own anything,
to, yeah, possess anything.
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And when we sometimes manage
to do that, it's a crime.
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We take over people's country.
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We commit genocide
across the nation.
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We enslave people, make them
do our-- our labor for us,
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make them raise our children
for us, make them suffer for us.
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And so yes, I believe that
we should be creative.
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We should be artists
in every moment,
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every element of our lives.
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But I feel that this is a
deep commitment which promises
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happiness and heartbreak.
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You know, my father
and I, yeah, had
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such a wonderful relationship.
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And he was-- he was so
worried that, you know,
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my life was going to fall
apart because he had-- he'd
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had such a hard upbringing.
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So many people along the way had
died on my father, had-- had--
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had been destroyed, you know,
by violence, by-- by drugs,
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by racism.
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And-- so he was he wanted
me to be successful.
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When I tell him I want to be a
writer, my father said, Walter,
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you'll never be a writer.
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Don't-- don't even
think about that.
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You should go into prisons.
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That's a growing business.
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You should work in prisons.
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And I said, OK, Dad,
but I'm going to write.
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And when I-- he said,
you'll never be a writer.
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And then I wrote, you
know, my-- my book.
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And I called him.
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I said, Dad, I got
the book published.
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And not only did they want one
book, they wanted two books.
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And they paid me enough
that I can live on it.
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And he said, I always
knew that would happen.
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And I said, Dad, you told me
that it would never happen.
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He said, I know I told
you that, but I always
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knew it was going to happen.
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And it was like, OK, Dad.
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People in the modern
world are given advice
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by people from the past.
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And you have to understand this.
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Before the 20th
century, knowledge
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doubled every 100
years, all the way back.
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The number of things people knew
kind of doubled in 100 years.
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So when a father gave a son
advice and the son said,
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you're a fool, I'm going
to go do it my way,
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the son always
came back and said,
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you know, Dad, you
were always right
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because nothing had changed.
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His father was right.
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His father understood the world.
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Today, when your mother, your
father, your significant other,
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whoever it is in the
world are telling you,
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you don't understand, and you
could-- you look back at them
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and say, listen.
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You don't understand.
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Knowledge today doubles
every 10 months.
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But if you think
something five years ago,
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it's obsolete by today.
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So when somebody says you'll
never make it, they don't know.
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I mean, it's very well-- is
possible you won't make it.
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But they don't know
that you won't make it
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because they don't
know what world it's
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going to be in five years.
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No one does.
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And so, you know,
do what you want
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to do because that's
the way the world works.
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Being a black man in America
is an interesting thing.
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And, you know, I could talk
about the way I think about it,
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but--
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and I-- I will because
I have an imagination.
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I imagine that somebody walks
up to Langston Hughes and--
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and somebody comes at
Langston and says, listen,
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how come those white people
give us so much grief, man?
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And Langston says, because they
don't know how beautiful it
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is to be colored.
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And I-- I that's--
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you know, I believe that.
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I believe that.
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What I've learned from
being a black man in America
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has given me a leg
up on everything.
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Listen?
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I mean, we started out with
the gospel, which moved over
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into country music; and
the blues, which moves over
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to rock and roll;
and jazz, which
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dominates the imagination
of the entire world.
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You know, that's-- that's
what they don't understand,
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you know?
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They don't understand
that who we've been,
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what we've been through,
that we've survived
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has made a world that's
so extraordinarily
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beautiful for everyone.
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And they don't even know it.
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They don't understand it.
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It is OK to create
just for yourself.
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As a matter of
fact, you will never
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be better at creating if
you do it just for yourself.
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Now, that's-- I'm-- not to say
that you shouldn't try to write
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a book and sell a book.
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You'll make some
money and stop, you
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know, doing that job at the
computer-programming shed.
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You know, I understand,
there's a-- you know,
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there's a real thing to do.
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And there's-- and there's
great possibility in, you know,
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working, and making money
doing writing, or painting,
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or sculpture, or
whatever you do.
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But-- but-- but the
truth is, in the end,
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you have to be doing the work,
and you have to love the work.
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If you no longer love the work
or if the work no longer loves
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you, then you're in a
problem, and you're--
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might need to switch up.
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I have a friend who is a
pretty close relation to one
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of the greatest geniuses
of the 20th century, who
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has worked his entire life
in a fairly creative place.
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He wasn't creating,
but he was archiving
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a certain kind of art.
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And it came to a moment
where he was going to retire.
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And he told me, he
says, you know, I'm--
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I'm retiring.
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It's over.
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I said, well, that's OK.
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You know, you won't be
working, so-- but, you
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know, maybe one of the
many hobbies or interests
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that you've had over the years,
you can start to do that now,
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and it'll be great.
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And he said, you know, Walter,
I've never had any interest
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ever except my job.
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It was so sad to
hear, incredibly so.
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But I think if you--
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you know, you do what
Tennessee Ernie Ford says,
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and you sell your soul
to the company store,
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then what's going to happen is
they're going to own your soul,
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and you'll be
there with nothing.
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And I think a lot of people
in America experience that.
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And because of that, I
think everybody in America
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should have an art,
should have an interest,
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they should have something
that's just about them
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and then nobody can
take away from them.
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I've never thought of
myself as an artist.
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I just always thought of
myself as a person who really
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likes art and likes to draw.
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I also never thought of
myself as a graphomaniac
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for that matter,
but when I go back
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to when I was 10, 11 years
old, my father used to work,
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you know, at-- at public
schools in Los Angeles.
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And he used to bring
home dozens and dozens
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of pads of blank paper.
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I don't know why because he
never used them, but I guess
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he got them for me, though
I never asked for them.
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And I would just take them,
and I would draw one picture
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after another, after another,
after another, after another.
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I would just draw and draw.
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And I kept on, you know, for
the last know 55-plus years.
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And I began to understand.
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I said, oh, right,
this is what I thought
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when I was a kid, that
when I went to school,
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I was going to be able to
create these fantastic images
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and stories, writing them
slash drawing them on paper.
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And then I realized
that I was completely
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stymied when I was a kid.
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I couldn't do it.
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Nobody wanted me to do it.
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Nobody was interested
in my drawings.
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Nobody understood
they were drawings.
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And slowly, I kind
of developed a voice
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that actually says something,
that actually represents me,
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is unique, at least in-- in
as much as it represents me.
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I think my drawing is an
abstract form of writing.
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And so in as much as it is that,
yes, my drawing and my writing
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are deeply connected.
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But if you look at my drawing,
it's nothing like what I write.
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And I think that's great.
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You know, it's wonderful
to be able to do, you know,
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different kinds of things.
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And in many ways, on a personal
level, that-- that's the best
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you can ask for.
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If you have a voice, that's--
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that's really amazing.
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Failure is the heart of all art.
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We fail 10,000 times
more than we succeed.
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We fail again, and
again, and again.
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One of the great things about
starting writing, for me,
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at the age of 34, was that I
was already a failure in life.
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I hadn't gotten a PhD
in political theory.
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I hadn't taught at Harvard.
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I hadn't made a
million dollars a year.
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I hadn't-- I was just a regular,
you know, working-class person,
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like most people are in America.
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You know, I was a failure.
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And in being a
failure, I didn't have
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to face the hubris
of being a writer.
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I said, well, I'm
already, you know--
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I'm already-- and
once you're a failure,
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you're always a failure.
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You never, like, succeed.
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It's like if you're a boxer.
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When you lose a fight,
you've lost the fight.
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You can't go back
and win that fight.
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It's over.
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You lost it.
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And I think that that it's--
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it's-- it's so much better to
have failed because in failing,
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you can find out the
right way of doing things.
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All those really talented people
in their 20s who quit writing--
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they never failed
until they once did,
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and then they gave up.
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And that's the thing
that you have to do.
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You write, and it doesn't
work, and you write,
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and it doesn't work, and you
write, and it doesn't work,
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and you write, and
it doesn't work.
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It's OK.
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You will always fail.
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But inside of doing that, you
will advance, and advance,
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and advance, and advance.
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The Russian army
fought the Germans.
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They lost every battle,
but they still won the war.
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That's-- that's--
that's courage.
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That's bravery right there.
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You know, I-- I
watched a fight once.
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A guy lost 14 rounds in a
row and knocked the guy out
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in the 15th round.
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I mean, like, that takes heart.
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That takes hard to--
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that's, I'm going to keep on.
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I'm going to keep
pushing until I make it.
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