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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:11,120 I used to puzzle a lot over what genre 2 00:00:11,120 --> 00:00:13,599 was. I knew that I was writing sometimes 3 00:00:13,599 --> 00:00:16,720 genre fiction, sometimes not. I knew 4 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:19,600 that I had a huge advantage in that the 5 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:22,000 majority of what I was writing as a 6 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:24,880 young writer was comics was graphic 7 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:28,480 novels which is a medium comics that 8 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:32,239 looks to the uninitiated like a genre. 9 00:00:32,239 --> 00:00:34,239 But because it wasn't a genre, it was 10 00:00:34,239 --> 00:00:36,480 just a medium. I was allowed to do 11 00:00:36,480 --> 00:00:39,200 whatever I wanted. I could write 12 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:40,960 historical fiction. I could write 13 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:42,559 fantasy fiction. I could write high 14 00:00:42,559 --> 00:00:44,800 fantasy and low fantasy. I could do 15 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:48,079 science fiction. I could do pure horror. 16 00:00:48,079 --> 00:00:50,239 I could do political fiction. I could do 17 00:00:50,239 --> 00:00:52,719 it all. And because it was all coming 18 00:00:52,719 --> 00:00:58,879 out as comics, people didn't mind. 19 00:00:58,879 --> 00:01:04,600 But what genre was baffled me. 20 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:11,600 It wasn't until I read a book by a film 21 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:13,280 professor 22 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:16,400 in California called Linda Williams um 23 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:20,640 who wrote a book called Hardcore 24 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:24,000 and it was a film professor's analysis 25 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,640 of hardcore pornography. 26 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:28,240 And threequarters of the way through the 27 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:29,759 book, 28 00:01:29,759 --> 00:01:32,560 she compared hardcore pornography films 29 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:35,040 of the 1970s 30 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:38,479 to the musical. 31 00:01:38,479 --> 00:01:41,520 And suddenly the penny dropped for me 32 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:46,560 because musicals like 1970s porn films 33 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:50,560 had certain things that have to happen. 34 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:54,320 You need the opening song by a large 35 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:57,920 chorus of people. You need the heroine 36 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:00,560 singing on her own about what she thinks 37 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:03,119 is going to happen. You need the song 38 00:02:03,119 --> 00:02:06,479 that's the first meeting of our heroine 39 00:02:06,479 --> 00:02:08,879 and our hero. You need the comic relief 40 00:02:08,879 --> 00:02:11,840 song with the three robust people behind 41 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:14,640 him. You need all of those things ending 42 00:02:14,640 --> 00:02:17,680 up with the final song which the hero 43 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:19,680 and the heroine sing together that 44 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:20,879 indicates they have been brought 45 00:02:20,879 --> 00:02:22,640 together. You need the final chorus and 46 00:02:22,640 --> 00:02:24,800 then we're out. And the truth is, in a 47 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:26,959 classic musical, 48 00:02:26,959 --> 00:02:31,440 the plot exists purely to stop all of 49 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:33,599 the songs from happening at the same 50 00:02:33,599 --> 00:02:35,680 time, 51 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:38,640 just as in a 70s porn film, according to 52 00:02:38,640 --> 00:02:41,440 Linda Williams, the plot existed to stop 53 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:43,760 all of the sex happening at the same 54 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:45,519 time. 55 00:02:45,519 --> 00:02:48,239 And I thought, actually, 56 00:02:48,239 --> 00:02:52,000 that tells me what the difference is 57 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:55,840 between a cowboy novel and a novel set 58 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:58,160 in cowboy times. 59 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:01,040 Because you can just look at it from a 60 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:05,280 perspective of reader expectations. 61 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:07,840 What are they coming to this for? What 62 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,319 will they feel cheated if they do not 63 00:03:10,319 --> 00:03:11,840 get? 64 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:13,519 They're going to expect the cattle 65 00:03:13,519 --> 00:03:15,840 stampede. They're going to expect the 66 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,319 showdown at high noon. They're going to 67 00:03:18,319 --> 00:03:20,959 expect the fight in the saloon. They're 68 00:03:20,959 --> 00:03:24,720 going to expect um you start listing the 69 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:26,319 things and you go, "Okay, so the plot 70 00:03:26,319 --> 00:03:28,319 actually needs to exist to keep all of 71 00:03:28,319 --> 00:03:31,120 these things from happening at the same 72 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:32,640 time." 73 00:03:32,640 --> 00:03:36,400 Or you can do a novel set in the Old 74 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:38,400 West and none of those things need to 75 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:40,400 happen. you can go after completely 76 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:42,159 different things, but you need to 77 00:03:42,159 --> 00:03:44,560 understand at that point you're writing 78 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:46,879 something that might look like genre but 79 00:03:46,879 --> 00:03:49,280 isn't. And that people may point to it 80 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:52,239 as genre and it's not. And that if 81 00:03:52,239 --> 00:03:54,319 somebody picks up your novel expecting 82 00:03:54,319 --> 00:03:57,280 genre, they will be disappointed just as 83 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:58,640 they would be if they went to see a 84 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:02,159 musical and there were no songs at all. 85 00:04:02,159 --> 00:04:04,319 So 86 00:04:04,319 --> 00:04:06,319 a lot of what you wind up doing then 87 00:04:06,319 --> 00:04:09,280 with genre is going okay what makes 88 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:11,680 genre genre 89 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:13,760 what do people what would people feel 90 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:15,519 cheated 91 00:04:15,519 --> 00:04:18,239 if they didn't get 92 00:04:18,239 --> 00:04:21,440 earlier on we were talking about making 93 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:26,560 a novel out of that March short story 94 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:29,280 with Anne Bonnie the pirate and so at 95 00:04:29,280 --> 00:04:31,440 that point you might start making a list 96 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:33,360 for yourself of, okay, if I wrote this 97 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:35,440 novel and there wasn't at least one 98 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:37,919 boarding of a ship, 99 00:04:37,919 --> 00:04:40,560 people might feel a little cheated. I 100 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:42,320 should I'd like to put one in. It might 101 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:44,800 not You can always turn things around. 102 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:46,479 You don't actually ever have to give 103 00:04:46,479 --> 00:04:48,240 people the thing they want in the way 104 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:50,560 they're expecting it. Actually, always 105 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:54,160 like it if you give them what they want 106 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:56,960 in a way that they're not expecting. 107 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:59,280 If you give them what they need but 108 00:04:59,280 --> 00:05:01,919 didn't realize that they wanted in a way 109 00:05:01,919 --> 00:05:05,199 that's unfamiliar, people like that. But 110 00:05:05,199 --> 00:05:08,080 you're still trying to give them the 111 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:11,280 moments that are actually going to make 112 00:05:11,280 --> 00:05:13,520 them feel like, yes, this is what I came 113 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:16,160 for. I'm getting my money's worth. They 114 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:18,160 are singing all of the songs in in the 115 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:22,000 order that those songs should be sung. 116 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,960 And actually, it's a musical. It's not a 117 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:28,720 mysterious musical. without songs. 118 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:31,840 Or you can go actually those things that 119 00:05:31,840 --> 00:05:33,120 are musicals without songs, they're 120 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:35,600 called plays. They're okay, too. But 121 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:38,240 it's a different kind of thing. And you 122 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:40,479 need to know what you're going into and 123 00:05:40,479 --> 00:05:43,880 what you're building. 124 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:51,120 I think understanding genre is a hugely 125 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:55,360 valuable tool for writers. Um, and if 126 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:57,360 you don't understand genre, you're going 127 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:00,080 to come across her. 128 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:04,160 It's very easy to look at fiction and 129 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:07,039 not quite get what genre is because the 130 00:06:07,039 --> 00:06:09,680 surface trappings of genre are a lot 131 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:11,120 like the surface trappings of things 132 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,360 that aren't genre. 133 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:15,759 And yet, there is a huge difference. 134 00:06:15,759 --> 00:06:18,479 There is a difference between a novel 135 00:06:18,479 --> 00:06:23,039 set in the American Wild West and a 136 00:06:23,039 --> 00:06:25,520 cowboy novel. There is a difference 137 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:27,680 between a novel set in the intelligence 138 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:29,199 community 139 00:06:29,199 --> 00:06:31,600 and a spy story. 140 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:33,120 Um, 141 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,919 and if you don't understand that, you 142 00:06:35,919 --> 00:06:38,960 will wind up disappointing your readers, 143 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:41,600 confusing your publishers, making a 144 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:43,280 general mess of things. If you do 145 00:06:43,280 --> 00:06:45,440 understand it, then it can be useful for 146 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:48,720 you and you can use it or you can ignore 147 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:52,319 it. Many many years ago when I was 9 10 148 00:06:52,319 --> 00:06:54,960 years old, I had an appalling lisp and 149 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:59,520 was sent to a uh elecution teacher named 150 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:03,520 Miss Webster. And Miss Webster 151 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,400 um had a number of Scotty dogs. I kind 152 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:09,360 of borrowed her for Coraline, her and 153 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:13,840 her best friend as the actresses in uh 154 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:17,599 Coraline. And she would smoke little 155 00:07:17,599 --> 00:07:21,199 black cigarillos and and rest her arms 156 00:07:21,199 --> 00:07:23,599 on her magnificent bosom as she listened 157 00:07:23,599 --> 00:07:27,280 to me. And I remember once she listened 158 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:31,440 to my my reading of a speech from Puck. 159 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:34,160 At the end of it, she said, "Neil, dear, 160 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:36,560 before you can be eccentric, you have to 161 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:40,000 know where the circle is." 162 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,960 And I took that as glorious advice that 163 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:45,440 has always seen me safe. 164 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:47,759 Um, it's always good to know what the 165 00:07:47,759 --> 00:07:51,840 rules are before you break them. It's 166 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:53,759 always good to know what the rules are 167 00:07:53,759 --> 00:07:55,280 when you're breaking them. It's good to 168 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:56,639 know what the rules are, even if you're 169 00:07:56,639 --> 00:07:58,319 going to ignore them absolutely 170 00:07:58,319 --> 00:08:01,039 completely from the word go and just set 171 00:08:01,039 --> 00:08:04,000 off to break them because at least that 172 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:07,520 way you know how people have been doing 173 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:10,479 this. You know how people ought to do 174 00:08:10,479 --> 00:08:12,080 this. You know how people think they 175 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:14,479 ought to do this. And you can set off 176 00:08:14,479 --> 00:08:18,160 and do whatever you like. But know 177 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:20,479 before you go, 178 00:08:20,479 --> 00:08:23,440 know safely what the rules are and then 179 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:27,319 break them with joy. 180 00:08:31,599 --> 00:08:34,479 When you're writing fiction, 181 00:08:34,479 --> 00:08:40,320 um, you need to know more than the 182 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,320 reader. 183 00:08:43,519 --> 00:08:46,640 You do not need to know everything, but 184 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:49,040 you always need to know more than the 185 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:50,880 reader does. 186 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:52,800 Now, the great thing about beginning any 187 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:56,399 piece of fiction is you know something 188 00:08:56,399 --> 00:08:58,880 and that something is more than any 189 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:00,880 reader knows because the reader knows 190 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:03,120 nothing about what you're doing and you 191 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,600 at least know something. 192 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:07,600 But 193 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:12,959 where and who and how and what these are 194 00:09:12,959 --> 00:09:15,839 all things that you can know and the 195 00:09:15,839 --> 00:09:19,360 reader doesn't you the way you reveal 196 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:21,519 information 197 00:09:21,519 --> 00:09:24,480 is in a way that suits you. It's not in 198 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:27,680 a way that necessarily is going to 199 00:09:27,680 --> 00:09:30,560 initially suit the reader. you can know 200 00:09:30,560 --> 00:09:32,880 more, which means that you can hide 201 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:35,200 things in the text, which means you can 202 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:39,360 set things up in the text, which means 203 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:43,839 that um you can play 204 00:09:43,839 --> 00:09:45,760 with things 205 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:48,399 you can play with things as simple as 206 00:09:48,399 --> 00:09:50,720 the fundamental sexism of language. For 207 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:52,320 example, 208 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:54,480 uh, in Sandman, 209 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:57,120 I took enormous pleasure 210 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:00,240 in Sandman number one, already having an 211 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:03,760 idea of who this family was and the 212 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:09,519 shape of it, um, of mentioning that a a 213 00:10:09,519 --> 00:10:12,399 black magic organization in 1916 had 214 00:10:12,399 --> 00:10:16,000 been attempting to capture Death, but 215 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:18,399 they had failed, and they had caught 216 00:10:18,399 --> 00:10:22,320 Dream, Death's younger other. 217 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:25,279 And back in those days, people would 218 00:10:25,279 --> 00:10:27,360 actually write letters to the editor and 219 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:31,040 the letters would come in. And I asked 220 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:32,720 the people of DC Comics if they would 221 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:34,480 mind just sending me the letters to the 222 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:39,040 editor as they came in. And I took 223 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:41,200 enormous pleasure 224 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:45,920 over the next months in seeing every now 225 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:48,000 and then at the end of a letter people 226 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,640 would say, "You've said that they were 227 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:52,079 trying to capture Death's younger 228 00:10:52,079 --> 00:10:54,000 brother. When are we going to see 229 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:57,440 Dream's older brother, Death?" 230 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:00,079 And I, knowing full well that this was 231 00:11:00,079 --> 00:11:03,279 going to be an older sister, um, just 232 00:11:03,279 --> 00:11:05,440 took pleasure in that. I knew more about 233 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:07,600 the story that they did. I'd used I'd 234 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:10,320 built a little little trap 235 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:11,839 for 236 00:11:11,839 --> 00:11:14,720 the reader. I knew that that was going 237 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:16,720 to be to my advantage. I knew that 238 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:18,640 having a reader think that something is 239 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:21,440 going to happen and actually something 240 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:23,040 else that will be much more 241 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:25,600 satisfactory, much more interesting, and 242 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:28,160 something they haven't seen is going to 243 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:33,040 be really fun. So, reader expectations 244 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:36,720 are a lovely thing to play with. and to 245 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:38,560 sail against. It's like the like the 246 00:11:38,560 --> 00:11:41,200 wind on a little sailing ship. You're 247 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:44,480 you're using it to power you and it 248 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:46,320 comes sometimes from the side and it 249 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:49,880 pushes you forward. 250 00:11:54,959 --> 00:11:57,760 For a writer starting out, 251 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:01,120 I would tend to push you away from genre 252 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:03,600 fiction. And I'll push you away from 253 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:06,639 genre fiction on the basis that you've 254 00:12:06,639 --> 00:12:08,800 probably spent your life reading some 255 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,680 kind of genre fiction and you love genre 256 00:12:11,680 --> 00:12:15,200 fiction and that's what you know. 257 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:18,560 And I think it's really important for a 258 00:12:18,560 --> 00:12:20,639 young writer and it could be a young 259 00:12:20,639 --> 00:12:23,680 writer of any age to get out of their 260 00:12:23,680 --> 00:12:26,800 comfort zone. Go and write things that 261 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:30,240 you know 262 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:34,160 that aren't the fiction that you know. 263 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:36,959 Because if you write the fiction that 264 00:12:36,959 --> 00:12:40,160 you know, then the best you'll ever be 265 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:44,079 is a good copy of somebody else and what 266 00:12:44,079 --> 00:12:46,320 you're most likely to be is something 267 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:49,040 that looks like a photocopy of a 268 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:52,079 photocopy of a photocopy. and now you're 269 00:12:52,079 --> 00:12:54,560 gray and unattractive and barely 270 00:12:54,560 --> 00:12:56,079 readable. 271 00:12:56,079 --> 00:12:58,160 Be yourself. 272 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:01,920 And that may involve dipping into genre. 273 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:04,639 It may involve going to lots of places. 274 00:13:04,639 --> 00:13:07,279 But go explore. There are so many things 275 00:13:07,279 --> 00:13:10,240 that you can do in fiction. Go find what 276 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:14,560 they are. Go play.20129

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