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It's
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a room of comedians.
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Dangerous. Dangerous. Hi, I'm Steve.
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Will.
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Nice to meet you.
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Hi, Beth.
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Beth.
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Tim.
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Tim. It's a hard name to remember. And
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Nalan.
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Nalan. How are you? Great to see you.
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Great to have you all together. Hey, I
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just want to ask you, do you know each
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other? Any of you know each other?
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Tim and I know each other.
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Yeah. And
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me and Tim know each other.
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From the circuit or from college or from
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the circuit?
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From the circuit.
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Yeah.
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So from a different circuit. Yeah. But
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Yeah.
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And do all of you do standup or are you
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more writers or what? I know you're a
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stand-up because I I saw your transcript
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of your bit and I know that you're a
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stand-up from reading your material.
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I actually haven't done standup yet. Oh
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yeah, that's my first
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Oh, fantastic. Well, you're on your way,
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I'll tell you. That's good. And you're
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essentially writers or
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I do I'm a stand up. Yeah.
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You stand up
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and mostly writing. Yeah.
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Mhm.
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And uh Will, how how did you get into
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it? How long have you been doing it?
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I've been doing it about nine years now.
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Do you travel across the country or is
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it kind of more local or?
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Uh right now I'm mostly based in New
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York, but I I just headlined my first
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show in Cincinnati, like a club weekend.
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How big was it?
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150 200.
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That's a good size.
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It was.
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And how was it?
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It was cool. It was great. The uh there
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were a couple that felt like work.
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Mhm.
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Then there were there was like one or
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two that were really fun and then
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the rest were just like okay like good.
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That's that's by the way a typical week.
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Okay. Yeah. You know, there's no there's
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no like end of a week where you say
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every show was fantastic.
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Even if they were fantastic, there's
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always one that's, you know, a little
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bit Well, that one, you know, that one.
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You go to bed at night and you kind of
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feel a little miserable and you don't
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know why. It took me years to figure out
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do a show club and go home and I'd be
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depressed. I think why am I depressed?
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Oh, it was because the show wasn't good.
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It was like oh really duh. And uh Tim uh
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how what's your little bit of your
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background? Your
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uh I started doing improv uh like close
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to nine years ago, maybe 10 years. That
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seems to be a realist starting point for
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people now is improv.
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Well, it is that thing where there was
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an improv group in college and that was
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like the closest thing to
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any kind of comedy that I was close to.
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So, I started doing that. Um, and then I
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started doing standup maybe like four
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years ago.
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Um, and then in between and
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been sharing those together and then
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sometimes it moves towards sketch and
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acting and things. It's like a very
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And what's the outlet today for a
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sketch? Is it like an improv stage or a
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I think improv stages tend to be where
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it is though there there's a lot of
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standup where there's that can be more
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sketch or like character focused.
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That's good. I'm going to ask you
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something, Beth. Are you exclusively a
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writer or do you have a day job or
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um my day job is writing? I run a
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satirical website. It's sort of like the
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Onion meets Cosmo. It's called
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Reductress.
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Good. What's that called?
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Reductris. Mhm.
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And uh mostly I just try to do stuff
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that goes into that. But like
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sometimes I'll have ideas and then I'll
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sort of just like jot it down for later
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in the like I'll be like okay maybe this
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is like a future book I'm going to write
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or maybe this is
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a movie or some like a TV show. I'll
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just try to figure out where it will go
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in the future.
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That's perfect because also the material
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I read by you is very coherent and and
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that's that's good.
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Yeah. Do you have a job?
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I do tutor uh
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in science.
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Uhhuh.
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Okay, that's good. And what's your
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specialty in science?
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Biology.
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Where'd your interest in performing come
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from?
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Oh man. Um I think my mom
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probably she was a dancer.
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An Indian classical dancer.
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Um and uh I've been singing and dancing
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since I was very young.
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I see.
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Yeah. You know, I I was talking
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yesterday that how the importance of
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education in comedy and it it may not be
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exclusively true. I'm sure there are
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great examples, but the more you know,
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the more you can utilize and the more
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you become unique because of your
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specialized
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knowledge.
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Let's talk about you first. You can
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think about that, Nelony.
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And you're thinking of going up
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on stage at a club. That's what you're
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thinking of.
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I'm thinking about it. Yeah.
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And how long you been thinking about it?
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Um I'm in the uh the improv character
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sketch world. I see in Los Angeles.
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I see. Okay.
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Um so I, you know, I've been surrounded
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by stand-up comedians and I'm always
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like, well, if I had something to say,
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what would I say? Mhm.
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And that's
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right
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the first wave of what I want to say.
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Right.
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So this is this is very interesting to
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start because your piece I read it's a
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lot of really good elements and
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material.
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Now I think this is very interesting
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because this is all rough. It's never
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been performed. Right.
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So I I think it's something very
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interesting to look at. And I really
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like that some that it's uh relevant to
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you. Only you could do this material
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having your science background.
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And also that's what kind of makes it
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funny is it's
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well I it's a little over the audience's
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head in a good way.
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And I think it uh and I think with
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little trims here and there
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uh it can really become a solid. Like,
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so I'll just read some of this. I'm
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sorry. I know. I'd rather read it than
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have you stand up here in front of four
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people. Believe me, I know that
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situation.
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Stand up set.
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Your first stand up on television
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in front of four critical people.
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Exactly.
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You know, all these women's rights
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movements lately since the 1800s. since
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the 1800s have got me thinking about my
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fellow female species. I mean the female
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human species.
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We've come a long way in evolution.
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Let's look at things what other female
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species have been dealing with. Horrible
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[ __ ] since the beginning of life on
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Earth. I think this needs to be
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clarified because I don't know what
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you're talking about. I know what you're
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talking about now because I've read it.
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You're talking about species that aren't
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human.
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Right.
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Right.
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Say, you know, Yeah. I think you should
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go. I was thinking about my fellow
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female species. Sharks. Yeah.
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Turtles, right? You know, all the these
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these things that females have had to
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put up with even before the dawn of man
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or humans or whatever. And I think
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you're just that's very clear all of a
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sudden, right? Yeah.
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I mean, you don't know. I said right and
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you had to agree, but
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Right.
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Like, did you know that the genitals of
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the how do you say this? Elasmo branch
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genus
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Mhm. elasmo branch. Yeah. How do you say
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it again?
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Elasmo branch.
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Yeah. It sounds good. It's funny because
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it sounds like you're you're telling
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something that people you're just
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talking about an airline bit. You know,
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that's what's so great. Did you know the
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genitals of the elast branch genus which
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includes sharks raising skates have
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pointy double penis?
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I think she's leave out rays and skates.
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Okay. say, you know, the last mob branch
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uh jetus, you know, which is sharks.
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They have they have a pointy double
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penis.
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Sharks were here on this planet way
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before mammals came around.
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I don't think you need that line.
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Yeah. Their reproductive organs are
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called claspers. They used to deposit
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sperm into the females cloaka. Is that
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how you say it?
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Mhm.
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Yeah.
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Can you imagine,
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you know,
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This would perhaps be a good time to
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mention that cloakas are equally weird.
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They are singular. They are the singular
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opening found in some animals that are
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used for urination, mating, and
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defecation. One giant ass pe vagina.
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Okay.
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Yeah. Now you say, "No, thank you. I
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wish I had known what female sharks have
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to go through before I had my first
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sexual encounter. It would have been
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less painful for the guy." I don't quite
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understand that.
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Uhhuh.
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But you're on to something
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something there.
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Just say I I think you've started a
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premise that is really nicely clear.
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It's like your predecessors, your female
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predecessors that that a shark claspers
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that use it sperm into females cloaka.
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And this created awful opportunities for
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harassment. You know, something I don't
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know. Just kind of stay on take them
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back to the real world maybe. I don't
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know.
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Yeah. Like any proper good Indian girl,
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I have never seen a pen I had I had
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never seen a penis before and was
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terrified.
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You know, you know, I had always heard
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of those unwanted non-consensual male
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aggressors. So, my first hand job I
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gave, I was so scared of that thing. I
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squeezed the living [ __ ] out of it like
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I was churning butter with it. It was a
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reflex reaction. Poor guy. He pulled
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down his pants and they went into attack
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mode like I was about to get robbed and
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bam, squeeze, turn, squeeze. I'm sorry,
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Andy. It's like Andy.
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Andy. Oh, okay. Air quoting. Yeah. I'm
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sorry, Andy.
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Yeah,
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you could point to a guy in the
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audience, you know. Uh, it was my first
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time. Not as scary as shark penises,
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though. Yeah, that's like a whole new
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level. I guess the only good thing about
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having a shark's ass pee vagina might be
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is that if I saw one of these male shark
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claw penises, I could just poop on it.
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I see what you're talking about because
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it's coming out of the asp vagina. Is
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that right?
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Yeah. If I were a female shark.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I see. If you have to say if I were a
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female shark,
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right? Yeah. To make that
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It sounds like it's uh
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you you don't want to have that.
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Yeah. We don't we don't want that image.
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Maybe that would deter them. I don't
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know.
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You could say they are men. Yeah.
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You know, they might not be deterred.
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Yeah.
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Uh I hear some people
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I hear some people like that though.
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Okay. Uh guys, I don't know. I don't
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watch the internet for that. Clearly, I
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watch nature uh documentaries. They're
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terrifying enough. I don't think you
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need to go on after that. I mean,
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I just think it needs to be a little
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more organized. You know, if you're
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going on about the shark penis
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and about the the hand job thing, it
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seems like it's in the way, but it's
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good. It could come later. Okay?
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Because once you establish,
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you're talking about the shark penis,
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then you go on. I guess the good thing
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about having a shark's pus is that if I
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were a female shark and I saw the I
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could just I have the you have to say
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the ass thing first. Yeah. Yeah. So you
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have
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and say I could just poop on it, you
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know,
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and that's the conclusion of that.
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Yeah. Yeah. And then end it there.
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And you can also say, you know, add
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things like,
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you know, I've I've got the aspie
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vagina. I got to use it. you know, like
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you know, if you're gonna poop on
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and then maybe go to the hand job thing,
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by the way, we don't even know you and
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we're sitting here.
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Uh,
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so the I've never say uh I'm just trying
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to think where this bit other bit goes
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like any proper good Indian girl never
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seen the penis before and was terrified.
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You know, I'd have heard those unwanted
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male aggressors.
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I have to make that clear.
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Well, it's No, that's fine. It just
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needs to go somewhere that's its own
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bit.
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It feels like it doesn't really relate.
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You're in shark world,
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right?
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And you just just tighten that down
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because you're really you've got a good
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subject. You're talking about,
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you know, females before you and you're
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talking about sharks and how they have
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to deal with the double penis and thank
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God they've got
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the aspie vagina that to counter it. So
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nature worked perfectly,
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right? you know, so any aggressors just
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tighten that thought.
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Do you have any thoughts about how you
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might attempt to initiate a little
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standup like
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Yeah. I mean, I did work at a a comedy
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club in LA
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uh for a while. So I
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as a what?
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As like a host. Like as a hostess.
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So you saw things saw people.
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Yeah. Like constantly. and the open
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mics. I guess I'd have to first go to an
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open mic.
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Yeah, I assume so. You guys would know
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better than I do.
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Yeah.
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Um, and I think I mean, you know, I've
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seen what works really well is people
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calling out their look or what they look
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like and what maybe the audience is
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perceiving them to be right away.
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because I don't know how many you know
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people look like me going on stage
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today.
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There are a few wonderful Indian
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comedians but
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I think maybe calling that out first.
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Um
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I think that's probably the obvious
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thing to do and and in in maybe in a
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good way. Um
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but I always I started to think
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why mention it at all? M
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you could do that or mention that later,
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you know, so it's not you're you're not
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defining yourself
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as a, you know, type.
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Yeah.
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But you could, you know, if you wait
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five minutes, if you can get that much
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material, I know it's hard. Five minutes
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is really hard. And then say you may
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have noticed, you know, or uh
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something just so it's not your defining
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characteristic.
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Yeah. And actually that's probably one
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of the reasons because I do so much
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character and sketch. and um
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all other different forms of comedy
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writing. And I've kind of stayed away
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from standup a little bit because I feel
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like it like puts you in this
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box for some reason like oh this is this
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comedian and this is all she has to say.
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I don't know. Like that's the feeling.
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Yeah,
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might be smart just to take it like
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I'm a comedian because I think the
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audience is kind of waiting for it. If
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you say if you open with may have
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noticed I'm Indian,
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you know, might be kind of waiting for
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it
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and then it feels like oh she's going to
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talk about being an Indian for 20
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minutes, right? You know,
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right? Right.
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And it would be kind of cool just to do
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some really like your sexual stuff. is
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funny, you know,
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and then and then kind of bring it in
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later, you know. Yeah. I I I think,
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you know,
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it's very uh very touchy today to
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talk about race. It's just a
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it's a tricky subject
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and uh I think the comedy club is may I
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mean you tell me is it a safe place to
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talk about race or people go
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you get people yelling out every now and
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then if you talk about race in a way
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that is maybe accurate but like makes
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you feel like a victim then
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they yell out now sometimes and uh good
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clubs will police that but
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sometimes they they don't and so you
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just get somebody yelling at you and
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you're like I'm just telling jokes I
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don't know why this is going on. Yeah,
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that's tough.
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Yeah.
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Um, it's a tough climate out there. And
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it's probably room
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for someone
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who has courage because that's what it
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would take, you know, to really go after
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it, to really start being political.
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Marty and I have done shows together and
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we do a lot of political jokes, but he
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does it in character.
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Yeah.
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And when you do it in character, it's
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very different. He does it as Jiminy
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Glick.
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Oh, yeah. And so you can you can say a
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lot of things because it's not
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essentially it's not us. And whenever he
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says something outrageous, I go,
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"Jiminy, how can you say that?" You
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know, it's like a you know, the
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ventriloquist dummy can say a lot of
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things that the the ventriloquist can't.
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Yeah.
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You know,
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I'm just sitting here musing on, you
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know, the nature of a joke writing or a
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bit writing and it's always for a
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purpose. So I started thinking about you
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who've never been on stage before and it
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just came to me like you could go on and
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and say, "Good evening. Um, this is my
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first time ever performing on stage and
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I can't believe how well it's going.
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I thought there would be a learning
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curve, but it's it's already, you know,
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I'm I'm on the ascendancy. I can feel
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it, you know, just kind of little
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self-deprecating and funny to kick you
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off and and get you going.
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Yeah. Anyway,
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yeah.34892
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