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perseverance over time uh really
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mattered to me, really counted. And I
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think it mattered to other people too,
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to other performers. They say, "I'm
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still here. I don't know why uh but I'm
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still here. So why should I waste uh my
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energy worrying worrying worrying that
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things are going to go away? Um
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and it's something you should worry
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about when you're starting out and you
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have a little success with this like how
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do you maintain it? You know when I
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first and I think all comedians go
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through this maybe a little different
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now but
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after performing for I don't know eight
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nine years I get on the Tonight Show.
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So, what do you do when you get on the
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Tonight Show? You do your best material.
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Hey, I kind of killed him on the Tonight
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Show. That's fantastic. Now, they ask
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you back. What do you do? Your second
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best material and then your third best
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and then you're out of material. But
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that's when I started uh developing new
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material like I went on once with a
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comedy act for dogs. I did that and I I
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I did a bit where I could uh tell tell
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the audience I can make them laugh
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simply by reading the phone book. And I
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the bit was I got so desperate I started
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doing you know ridiculous things to make
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them laugh and slowly started to build
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it up and I was much more conscious
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about having material and uh even struct
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restructuring old material or finding
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ways to get new material. And it's
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really just working it out, going out
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the clubs and working it out. But, you
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know, before you take that first TV
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show, which of course you have to take,
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first appearance, you have to take it,
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but it'd be great to have something
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else. Uh, backlog of more and more
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material.
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And I know the comedians today change
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their material constantly. You know,
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it's a I u in the vaudeville days, you
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did six minutes, the same six minutes
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for the rest of your life.
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And now you do a comedy special and
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you've got to write uh you know an hour
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and a half a year. It seems impossible.
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So you really have to have a catalog, a
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backlog, a place to go when that thing
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starts to dry up and even have access to
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new material whether you employ your
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friends or yourself uh and have a
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system, a backup system uh to supply
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yourself and and and
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uh practice it.
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I learned early on that rehearsal was
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very very important. Now, let me talk
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about what I'm talking about. Magic. You
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had to do it a million times. It had to
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be perfect. Had to be perfect. You did
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it in front of a mirror.
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And uh
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and so when I started doing comedy,
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there is no way to rehearse it because
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you have to do it in front of an
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audience. The best thing you can do is
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uh like even today I will if I have a
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new line or something I will go over it
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in my head and go over it so I don't
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stumble on it. You don't want to
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stumble. Um
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but there's no way to rehearse except
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get in front of get in front of people.
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So there really is no rehearsal
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uh except experience which is a probably
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the best way to do it. I I guess if
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you're if if you're rehearsing a you
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know juggling of course I could rehearse
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that or flyini I could certainly
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rehearse but you can't rehearse comedy
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to nobody.
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You've got to give yourself uh room to
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be bad because you learn more from being
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bad than you do from being great. I'
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I've talked about it in my my
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autobiography. It's like, you know,
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anyone can be great. There's always a
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night where you're just on it and you're
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so good and the audience is there. It's
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like a a little a miracle. Uh everybody
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came together at the same time. But what
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about the next night when you don't have
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that hot audience? You've got to be good
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and you've got to be consistent. So,
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you've got to learn that consistency and
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you it's just a slow development, a line
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at a time, an idea at a time, uh a a
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way you hold yourself, a moment, you go,
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"Oh, that felt different." And that's
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the way it's collected. It's not it can
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be uh you know, thought up in one giant
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leap, but the actual process of it is
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going to take that kind of
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experimentation and freedom. So try to
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find places where you can be awful and I
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know there's plenty of them. I think I
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think from what I hear uh and the great
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thing today is you can be kind of awful
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and still get paid.
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Remember
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to watch your mistakes
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because your mistakes may not really be
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mistakes. They may be something
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emerging. Say why why did I do that? Why
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why did that happen? Or
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and say maybe there's actually more
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there rather than try to shut that down.
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Maybe there's something more. um pl
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writing music if you make a that's the
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best example at most clearest if you
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make a mistake you went what was that
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note I didn't mean to play that note and
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then suddenly you're you're off on
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something
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and uh I can even say my life changed
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because of
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watching mistakes
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for example I was still you know a young
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comedian in the early 70s you know kind
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of on that cusp between getting work
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being kind of funny but not really
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having any success. And I was playing a
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college and uh I was going to play in
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sort of a makeshift it was a a theater
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class classroom and it had a stage
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and so the students would be you know in
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the audience and I I would be on the
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stage but I didn't check everything out
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and so now I I finish I'm doing my act
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and I realize there's no wings to the
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stage. There's no place to go when I'm
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done. I had my little box of things. I
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had my banjo case and so I sort of go
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over and I'm putting things away and the
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audience didn't leave and I kept saying
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that's it. And and they kept thinking I
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was still going on in some way and I
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started to think, oh, they're thinking
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this is part of the act somehow.
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And so I there was only one way out
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which was through the audience. So I got
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off the stage and I started talking and
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ad libing. I don't remember what I said.
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I'm just talking and saying little funny
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things trying to act like I know what
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I'm doing. Then I went out into the
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hallway trying to end the show and the
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audience followed me out into the
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hallway. So I I kept talking to them,
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talking, making jokes. Then we went
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outside and it was a beautiful warm, you
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know, uh, Tennessee night and there was
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an empty swimming pool there and so I
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said, "Uh, everybody get in the pool."
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So they all got in the pool. It was
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empty so they just kind of stood there
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and then I swam over the top of them,
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you know, finally got out. We ended. And
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I went home that night and I said, "I
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think I just changed my life right now
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because I found something that I did not
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expect to happen and went with it, I
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guess,
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and and started thinking about comedy of
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my comedy in a new way. It wasn't going
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to be just confined to the start and the
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end and it was going to spread out and
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it was going to become more
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at least at this time radical.
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Another big change in my career. I was
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an opening act going around and doing
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okay, you know, as an opening act, but I
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was getting no traction. If I'd get a
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review, if if the review came out, it
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was always about the headliner. And I
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realized no matter how good I am, no
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matter how I went over, I'm not the
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headliner. So, I was playing places,
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opening act, see 500 people. I said, I'm
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only going to headline. And my next
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shows were for 60 people,
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but I was the headliner. And the
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headliner sticks in people's heads.
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Somehow it has some importance to them
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that's maybe not even valid. But as soon
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as I started headlining, that's when I
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started getting attention and starting
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getting the reviews I needed.
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You'll find
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as you become incrementally
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confident
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that that confidence produces more
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confidence. It produces more material,
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gives you the littlest bit of courage
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uh to go to the next stage. confidence
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I'd say took me
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25 years to get
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uh
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sometimes it would come in little
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increments but the way to get conf
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confidence is to perform or write
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consistently
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and you you'll slowly build a little
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base and you'll say if somebody came
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says oh we got a show for you at the uh
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at the laahasa's up and you say, "I've
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done that before. I can do that. I've
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done it. I got 20 minutes or 25 minutes.
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I've done it." And in the the more
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bizarre circumstances you get in, uh,
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the more you're acquiring your own
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confidence. I once performed when I was
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starting out at a drive-in movie theater
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in a at a resort in California and it
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was uh during the day 300 p.m.
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and the cars came in
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and uh put a speaker in their in their
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car and I was on the stage and
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if they thought something was funny they
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honked.
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So the stranger circumstances you get
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in, you're you're just building up this
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repertoire, this arsenal of experience
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that there's no substitution for,
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especially in these fields. It's not
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theoretical.
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It's practical. Even though there's
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nothing more anxiety producing than
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performing on stage, but you know, you
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can fool yourself too in a good way.
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When I first started developing my act,
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I thought, I'm going to fake confidence.
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And so when I got on stage,
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I never let the audience know I was
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bombing. I never I just acted, oh, you
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this is fantastic. And it was kind it it
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developed a a personality for me on
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stage, but it also kept the audience
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doesn't wants they want to know they're
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in good hands. Be very confident. Fake
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it.
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And uh let them think they're the
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problem, not you.19126
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