All language subtitles for The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills – S15E19

I definitely did not, please.

Holy shit.

Eric had nothing else going on, and I
was an easy target.

Yeah, she wants to play this villain now
that everyone thought was cool. She was

smoking, so now she walks around puffing
her cigarette, acting like an asshole

because people thought it was cool. You
have fun with that. This is about the

three of us coming apart.

I'm ready.

Tonight, the three -part Beverly Hills
reunion begins.

Do you think he was emotionally abusive
to you, Tom?

Kyle, if you do file for divorce, will
you be asking for half of the agency?

Well, it's mine.

Did he realize that?

You accused her of lashing out. In order
to save my job, I fucking came unglued.

Do you want to apologize?

Apologize for what, Andy?

She's saying that it made her flip.

I didn't say it was a failure. Yes, you
did.

Get over it. Don't talk behind my back.
I fucking told him.

I'm very sorry.

But do you mean it?

No, Erica. I'm a cold -hearted fucking
cunt.

I really like that word.

Taking my selfie.

Well, hi, Miss Brown. Beverly Hills is
in the house, I see.

So pretty.

Look at this showgirl.

Wow.

Hi. You look great.

Thank you. Wow. It's time to put a show
on.

This is very heavy, I think. Dude, it's
74 pounds. This dress is going to be

hot. Oh, my God, you guys. This is what
Rachel Doe wears to a reunion.

Yes.

Who is it, Rachel?

This is vintage Jim Endell. Oh, it's
really gorgeous. Oh, my gosh.

Not the car on the set.

I've never had that before.

Look at you matching the car.

I really like it.

Everybody looks gorgeous.

Hello, everyone.

It's so cool.

Hi, Dorit.

Here, I'm going to go this way.

All right, we're waiting for the money
queen. Hey, Dorit, guess what? You

weren't the last one. I know, baby.

Hey, money queen.

Hi, how are you?

Hello. Hello. Hello.

Are you ready?

I guess.

Yes, I am.

Camera's up. And to Andy in 3, 2, 1.

Hey, everybody. Welcome to the Real
Housewives of Beverly Hills Season 15

reunion. I'm Andy Cohen, and here's what
I'm manifesting today.

Friendship, conflict, followed by
resolution.

And our set is manifesting the iconic
Rodeo Drive.

Good evening, ladies.

Good evening, Andy.

Hi, Rachel Joan. Hi, Andy. Everyone's
obsessed with your boys.

Oh, me too.

They love their mom.

Has Skylar bought an Hermes bangle for
any girls lately? No, I have to say when

that's okay.

Skylar, I love this.

Don't just buy any random girl an Hermes
bracelet.

Okay. Did he use his allowance?

He did.

That's really good.

Hey, Amanda, welcome to your first
reunion.

Thank you. What are you manifesting for
today?

Be myself.

Say the truth.

Maybe have some fun.

Okay. Hi, Sutton Brown.

Hello. Sutton Brown's first reunion.

Yes. Easy breezy. Easy breezy. Hi,
Erica.

Hey. How you doing? I'm good.

How is DJing going?

Honey, I had two fabulous weeks in
Australia. Oh, yeah.

I had the best time. Look, I get to wear

latex and play other people's records
and have a good time. I like it. Hi,

Hello. Let's see that ring.

Wow. Exciting.

Beautiful. I do have a special request.
Oh, okay.

For my Beverly Hills wedding.

I would love for you to DJ part of the
wedding. Absolutely.

Consider it done. Thank you. Thank you.
That's so great.

Hi, Dory. Hi, Andy. Great to see you.
Good to see you. How are you feeling

tonight? Good. Good. Great. Hi, Kyle.
Hi, Andy. Kyle, you are officially

longest running consecutive housewife
across all franchises. Wow. This is your

15th season, 15th straight reunion.

How does it feel?

I'm still standing.

She deserves applause.

That's an achievement.

So before we get into it, I just want to
talk about where everyone stands

because the once rock -solid friendships
of Kyle, Dorit, and Erica were

shaken, which impacted really the whole
group.

Do you all think that we can land in a
positive spot by the end of the day?

I would love that.

You would? Of course I would love that.

What do you think, Dorit? I mean,
listen, I'd always love that, but you

be realistic, you know.

See how the day goes.

Erica? I don't have much hope.

Really? No.

Okay.

When new housewife Rachel Zoe saw how
excited fans were that she was back on

Bravo, she probably said, I'm dead. I
can't. Are you okay?

And while the other women marveled at
how stylish and put together their new

friend was, Rachel's home life was
undergoing a painful new makeover. Take

look. Oh, God.

Hello. My name is Rachel Doe. You may or
may not remember me from Bravo because

I've lived here before.

I'm so crazy.

Oh my God, I have that bag. I'm a little
bit in awe of her because she is one of

the most famous stylists in Hollywood.

People are always like, oh my God, you
have it so together. But on the inside,

I'm like, oh my God, I'm like crumbling.

I think we've outgrown each other.

He's always been grateful, Dad, and I've
always been St. Bart. Do you know that

my ex has this girlfriend, right?

My kids are leaving.

She fucking appears.

Dad was there, and it was just like,
this is my friend, and it was like, hi,

I was like, hi, and I just looked away,
and I was like, oh, that's the person.

It's an absolute myriad of bad decisions
that have been made over the last

month, the last week, the last fucking
hour that would trigger me to move

things forward.

it's everywhere like it's everywhere he
will be the greatest disappointment of

my life forever i'm great i'm great it
came as no

surprise uh the bravo verse was very
excited to welcome you back into the

what did that tidal wave feel like
honestly the love has

truthfully been overwhelming.

And I think it's part of the fear of
coming back in is, you know, having

survived the tabloid era of being the
subject of fodder a lot.

I came in like they're going to come for
me. They're going to hate me. So it was

scary. But I also feel that I was a lot
more open than I thought I would be.

You were a lot more open truthfully than
I thought you were going to be to tell

you the truth. Was there any part of you
that Wanted to get back at Roger

by coming on the show? No.

Not even a little.

I have to assume, though, that now that
the show is airing, is he seeing things

and getting upset?

Yeah. I think he hears.

I'm sure that people tell him.

You know, listen, the only thing I could
say very honestly is some really bad

things happened in real time this summer
that were quite shocking, and there's a

lot that I didn't say.

Do you regret it? Do you regret being
open?

I don't really regret anything that I
said because I definitely meant it. And

honestly don't mean it. But look, here's
the thing. The truth is painful

sometimes. Yeah. But overall, definitely
not. Because I think if it helps as

many people as I would like it to, then
I think that's great.

And you know.

And it helps you. Moving on to your
divorce, we saw you file on the show.

Is it resolved yet? No, but soon.

We know that you weren't happy when
Roger's new girlfriend saw the boys at

airport. Do you have a relationship with
her at all?

Are you okay? I do okay. Are you okay?

Steve and I married coming up. Andy.

I have to ask. No.

No. And not ever.

And no.

Does he have any relationship with your
parents?

No.

My dad can't really.

My mother is more able to talk to him
because for her, she's very much like

he's the father of my grandchildren. So
I did have him at Thanksgiving because

my mother, we were all in Miami, and he
happened to have been there with a

friend, like a guy friend. And my mother
was basically like, we need to invite

him at least for dessert or whatever.
And I did, and he stayed. I thought it

going to be dessert, but it was.

From 9 to, like, 1 a .m. Wow. And
Roger's relationship with the boys is...

good now. Better. Much, much better.

Good.

Rachel, when you shared your story about
a pre -engagement hookup with a model,

Kyle, you said in an interview, what
kind of marriage are you setting

up for?

I cheated on you, and guess what? I got
a big diamond the next day.

I mean, that's sort of setting the
precedent, no?

For diamonds.

You cheat and you get diamonds. No.
That's great.

But here's the thing. I met him when I
was 19.

For me to have made out with one guy in
the span of 34 years. Oh, I thought you

had sex with somebody.

Girl. No.

I said we fooled around.

Oh, I thought sex. That's why I was
like, wow. Well, I was wrong. No, that

have been a whole different
conversation.

In happy news.

You were recently photographed on a red
carpet with some guy called Sasha.

Is that a thing?

Do you have something to tell me? I'm
hot. What did she say?

It was a friend.

Kim from Cincinnati said, wait, is
Rachel dating a life coach who sells

courses like Amanda?

I would die.

Kim from Cincinnati said, wait, is
Rachel dating a life coach who sells

courses like Amanda?

I would die.

Is that what he does? He's more of a...

It's more of

like a mind -body alignment, basically.

Alignment? Basically getting people back
to a place of, you know, center of

forgiveness, things like that. I'm not a
client.

He's a friend. Okay. You do know how
many times I've said he's a friend. A

good -looking, tall friend. Okay. All
right. Well, I'm going to move on.

With a husband in prison and a $25
million lawsuit on the horizon, the past

few years have given Erica a million
different reasons to keep her walls

up. Sorry for that transition. I am
laughing at this. But after decades of

walking on thin ice with Tom, A new
gentleman in Erica's life melted this

queen's heart. Watch.

This is an intro.

Okay, Erica.

Yeah. Who is this guy that the picture
of the paparazzi caught you with the

other day?

What stood out most in those pictures
was the fact that Erica had not a stitch

of makeup, she was dressed totally down,
and the guy was wearing crockery.

When I saw that picture, I thought she's
so comfortable.

Yeah, you looked very comfortable. And I
felt like you felt safe with him.

Yeah, there was no guard up. Erica, have
you ever felt like you didn't have to

have your guard up? Not in a long time.

I know that you're so over everything
with Tom.

Oh, I'm not over that.

I'm heartbroken.

Uh -huh.

Knowing he's going to die in prison.
Right. That's heavy.

Certainly Tom's story.

is ending.

Mine is still ongoing.

I saw this thing about Erica and I
texted her. I'm worried about her.

Erica Jane headed to trial over $25
million spent during Tom Girardi's

Wait, wait, I don't understand. She's
headed to trial.

What, do they think they're going to get
$25 million from her back?

I wanted to talk to you about the black
eye I saw.

I wanted you to know.

I went through this too.

There's a lot of shame around that,
getting hit or choked or kicked.

What happened to you, look, you were
very lucky that you survived.

And by speaking about it, that's the
first step in letting go of it.

Are you sure I did the right thing?

I'm 100 % positive.

Sure. Yeah.

I know it for sure.

Okay.

All right.

Erica,

I want to start by saying first how
sorry and sad I am that you had to go

through such a horrible experience.

I also want to acknowledge how brave it
was of you to share your story so

publicly.

Why did you feel like you wanted to
share that?

Well, I'd held it for a long time.

And had Denise not said anything, I
probably wouldn't have said anything

Mm -hmm. What has the reaction been like
from viewers?

The one silver lining has been very
positive. Thank you for coming forward.

too, have had this experience. And I
think, you know, no one should have that

experience. But it's much more common
than we know.

How did you get out of the relationship,
if you don't mind me asking? I called

the cops.

You called the cops?

Yeah, that's how you get out.

You must have been so scared.

Yeah, terrified.

I gave this person a chance to leave.

They did not.

And I was like, fuck, no, man.

Okay. I have to call 911.

So after this aired, you didn't hear
from this person?

No.

No. Were you worried about that?

It definitely occurred.

You know, I thought, how do I say this?

You don't know what someone will do.

You know, you just don't know.

And if they've shown you a certain
pattern of behavior.

Just to say that it won't escalate. Uh
-huh.

So it definitely was a concern of mine.
You had said in the therapy session that

your mom didn't know about the abuse.
Did you talk to her before the show

No.

My mother... Mom, you're the most...

Clutch mother ever my mom is terrible at
everyday shit. She fills up in crisis

like no other. Thank you mommy How did
she show up she text me she said Erica?

I'm so sorry.

I am so sorry for you, and she did not
Chastise me why didn't you come to me?

How could you not say anything? She was
so cool and so loving and I just cannot

thank her enough for that Who in the
circle knew about this?

Well, the three of us were going to go
on a trip. They were supposed to come to

Aspen with me.

And we couldn't leave at the right time.

And I panicked.

And I said, I need to leave town.

And I told them why. And I want to say,
you and I spoke privately. And you go,

Erica, why didn't you say anything? And
I said, Andy, the level of shame.

The level of shame that comes with this.

But you know what I realized?

through this DV shame, it also brought
up a whole lot of other shame. Shame

about Tom.

You know, I walked on ice a lot with
Tom.

Like, looking back at it, you know, it's
always been ice. It was constantly an

interrogation. It was constantly, you
know, a battle, you know?

Do you think he was emotionally abusive
to you, Tom?

Yeah.

And financially abusive.

And, you know, Tom one time did not talk
to me for six weeks.

And we lived in the same house. That's
crazy.

That's such an emotional thing.

You know, as sweet as Tom could be, it's
as vicious as Tom could be.

Were you nervous about appearing on
camera with him? Oh, fuck yes.

You were?

Yes, because what if I said the wrong
thing?

Right.

But he never thought I'd get on the
show.

I remember him telling me after my first
interview, you're not going to get this

job. Oh, that's nice.

Then when I said, oh, you know, I got
the job. What an ass.

He was kind of like, you got the job.

Well, he's not going to tell me no.

You know, so I came on the cast.

When I think back about your first few
seasons on the show, he would come

when you were performing and he would
play this part of this, like, proud

husband. Sorry -eyed husband, yeah.

I was really proud of you. Were you?
Yeah. Thank you. That was cool. Thank

I appreciate that.

You know how many times I've wondered
how much of that was an act?

Oh. In the moment, did you wonder?

You know, you want to believe.

That your partner loves and supports
you, but you know when it was fucked up

Which is it's very obvious when you said
to me. I didn't like it that Tom didn't

come see you on Broadway. Yeah, I did
like He also did not read my book I

remember yeah, and by the way you were
cleaning up that mess on the couch And I

was saying to you. I think that's weird
and you were like do you what is Tom

think he hasn't read it either? No one's
read it No one's read it in my family.

I think that's weird.

Yeah, what's weird about it?

I was riding for him very hard. Yeah.

Having that hindsight and being able to
look at it. You know, I was in the

Tom Girardi influence.

You told Sutton that you don't believe
that visiting Tom will give you closure.

No, I do not. Especially since he may
not even remember who you are.

If there was one question that you could
ask him.

What would it be?

You told Sutton that you don't believe
that visiting Tom will give you closure.

No, I do not. Especially since he may
not even remember who you are.

If there was one question that you could
ask him.

What would it be?

Wow, that's a good question.

Why?

Why?

Why would you throw me out like that?

You know?

Because... If you think about it, like
I'm in an almost impossible situation.

I'm swimming under all of these
lawsuits.

And the $26 million thing has been for
years. They sued me for that right away.

And that's coming up? Yeah.

Worst possible case.

You have found that you owe somebody $25
million.

What the hell do you do then? File for
bankruptcy? You can file for bankruptcy

or you can fight it out in court. And
you can... Duke it out.

You know, you can go to trial.

You can cut a deal. You can die in the
streets. I have no idea.

Dorit, in Italy, you questioned whether
Erica was actually going through

a fuck ton.

She's going through a fuck ton.

We're all going through a fuck ton,
Rachel.

You're going through a fuck ton?

Surely you knew that she was going
through stuff. So what did you mean by

So, you know, first of all, when I was
in Italy, I had a lot on my mind.

We had been talking a lot the three
weeks leading up to Italy.

And there was no mention of the trial
coming up. In fact, the first time I

it was in the Hamptons when Rachel saw
it in the tabloids.

Eric and I never spoke about it.

So that was not even the top of my mind.
If I'm not having the conversation, I'm

not thinking about it.

Your reaction was? On the one hand, I
can see why she's got her own problems

she's very self -involved.

On the other hand, I've been talking
about this shit for six years.

Not really.

Yeah, I've been going through it. This
case has been around a long time.

But I also don't expect you to be
keeping up with every fucking thing I'm

However, we have talked about it. And
whether we talked about it five months

or two years ago, we're close.

Yeah, no, I know.

That's why it hurts.

I love you, and I'm scared for you.

I don't want to overload my friends all
the time.

Well, I'm sorry you're going through it.
But we also shouldn't have to mention

it all the time to have our friends be
sympathetic. Right.

We're all going through stuff.

So, Kyle, you said Dorit never once
asked about how you're doing this year.

Ladies, does anyone feel like Dorit took
the time to ask about their lives, or

was she in her own moment?

Well, I clearly say, yeah, she did.
Right.

That I didn't ask Kyle how... No, me.

You said he just asked you. Well, you
know, Kyle doesn't talk about her life.

That's not... And she doesn't... I,
listen, I don't talk about my separation

much as you, but I'm also not asked. You
know, I have had stuff going on, too,

and I do feel that you...

are so wrapped up in your own situation
that you're not realizing that other

people are going through a lot of stuff,
too. Yeah, well, she said that at the

table. You know, Bo's is going through,
you know, the fertility.

And what Erica's going through. And
Sutton. Everybody here.

Sorry. And it didn't feel like you
were... Sorry, Bo, please.

Oh, yeah, no. No, no, no. I don't think
I was part of the question. No, no, she

said everyone has something going on.

I didn't say you did not. You're
suggesting that I don't care. Oh, I'm

suggesting you don't care about Bo's.

I'm saying we all have stuff, but I'm a
very, very empathetic person. In fact, I

don't think there's a single person here
that would suggest that I wouldn't be

interested or care about things that
other people are going through.

So I resent that. I always have thought
that about you. I think what you're

going through right now has made you
less like that.

I know that everyone has stuff going on
in their lives. And my point was, I

think that you are so...

in the zone with your issue that you're
not thinking about that with other

people. Right, and I'm telling you
you're wrong.

Okay. Okay. This year, as I have said
multiple times and again. Yes, I know

weren't going through it. Okay, so I was
overwhelmed. But when I got to Italy,

it was a different ballgame. Okay, I
want to bring it back to our current

relationship. It's been how long?

Since June, July.

Nine months. Nine months, yeah.

Yeah.

That's great. Thank you. How are things
going in the relationship?

Thank you so much. It's good. Has your
son met him? Yes. And what does your son

think? Oh my God, you're talking to like
the ultimate G .I. Joe. My son's

probably more in love with this man than
I could ever be.

Wow.

Let's call him G .I. John.

G .I. John.

That's a good nickname.

How has what happened to you impacted
who you are in your current

relationship? I really enjoy the men
that I'm dating.

And so I don't have those same concerns.

You feel safe.

I do. You feel safe.

Things seem to be going well. Day by
day. Day by day.

We're going to leave it there. We'll be
right back.

I need everyone to step out, please. We
got to go. We got an hour.

That's the Chanel makeup kit that you
used three minutes ago.

Three. Did I give you that makeup kit
for that Chanel cosmetic bag?

I did.

Doctor.

That's how much you've meant to me.

Same.

What? What's happening?

You get what you get.

Some weird shit, Erica.

Coming up.

I can afford to spend $4 ,000 being
judged especially from you, out of all

people. By the way, I'm not in the same
financial position as you. I'm sorry.

We are back with the Real Housewives of
Beverly Hills.

Last year, Dorit iconically dragged a
cigarette, but this season her friends

warned her against dragging PK too hard
in public.

And as Dorit sought to be unburdened
financially via an exciting new book

she couldn't help but feel like Kyle was
reading right from PK's playbook. Watch

this.

When I saw PK kissing that scene version
of Dorit, First, I rolled my eyes.

Then I threw up a little.

The next day, you filed.

It was that day.

You know, I'm hearing, like, complete
the opposite, that Drew is putting him

through a really hard time, making it
hard for him to see the kids.

Last year, she was saying things that,
you know, obviously came out, you know,

how he's parenting and things like that.

That makes me nervous.

It's adding fuel to the fire.

I just don't think it's smart to be
speaking so negatively about your ex so

publicly.

It's going to make your divorce down the
line much more difficult.

Do you remember when you and I had
dinner and I

said to you, I don't think it's a good
idea to bash the father of your

Why do you think I said that? Do I
remember that? I can remember.

I think when it comes to anything about
this divorce between Dorit and PK, Kyle

should just be quiet because there's no
winning here.

What you have kicked off and started is
what's really

going to come back and kick me in the
ass. Go up, Sheree.

Okay, so Dory, you said that what Kyle
is doing is going to come back and bite

you in the ass. Has that happened?

Oh, yeah.

In what way?

Well, PK was sending me clearly...

Kyle was relaying information to Mo
about me in the season, and PK was

me towards the end of the season,
saying, apparently, you're not doing so

Apparently, you know. I didn't say
anything about that.

Oh, he just, I mean, PK just, poof, got
it out of the sky. No. He's a psychic.

No, someone's saying something that's
not me.

Okay, well, anyway. So you can't keep
saying things that you've been. I can

you that now that it's, listen, you have
to be, you know, for somebody who's so

concerned. If she doesn't realize that
suggesting that I am erratic, that

I'm not myself, not once thinking she's
in an acrimonious divorce. I'm not in

your situation. I filed for divorce.

Telling me, you told me once in private.
That's why we're telling you don't fuel

the fire.

So then why do you think fueling the
fire by suggesting that I am erratic, by

making sure. I already said that was the
wrong choice of words, but she's going

to hear this too. Kyle, making it a
storyline.

Yeah, and you know what you didn't see?
Is that they were having that

conversation with me as well, and that
part wasn't filmed.

You missed it last night.

I lost Dory.

I'm not kidding, for like 45 minutes.

Where did you find her?

In the fucking smoking section outside.

Like, but here's the thing. Had I known
there was a smoking section, that would

have been the first place I looked.

She disappears sometimes.

But like, you can't do that. I had a
fucking heart attack.

Like, you can't do that.

You keep saying this.

So I'm going to go to each and every
one. Amanda, did you go to Kyle and say,

Dorit is acting erratic, manic?

Did you go to her? No, she didn't say
those words. I had my own words. Did you

go to Kyle?

Dorit, that's not what I'm saying. Stop
saying you didn't see them coming to me.

I used my words that I already told you,
but you don't listen. Kyle, you don't

realize that what you're saying.

Related it to my own experience and I
even said this and I even said this a

number of times I equated it to how I
felt after my separation that I was I

tend to get OCD and you know like all
over the place like III mean I get very

ADHD and I might not

clear and, you know, maybe working out
too much and, like, not focused and,

like, all over the place and scattered.

That's what I meant. And it became this
big, huge thing that it shouldn't have

been. The word erratic. It's not a big,
huge thing, Kyle.

It's not a big, because you made it.
It's not that big of a fucking deal.

explain to you why it's a big deal. Bo
talked about her financial concerns. She

came and she told me, never mind. Leave
Bo out of it. Point at this, Kyle. You

know full well. You're trying to just
focus on me and make me laugh out when I

wasn't saying things to be bossy or mean
about you.

Okay. Kyle, do me a favor.

Let's stick with one thing right now.
I'm making one point. Okay. I spent $4

,000 in one of Rachel's friends' shops
that they cleared for us to shop.

Nobody bought anything but me.

I didn't want us to go into that shop
and not buy anything. They had cute

things. I can afford to spend $4 ,000.

I'm very lucky to. Yeah. Being judged by
you, having you go and speak to the

girls, the group, about, oh, it's a lot
of money she's spending.

Kyle, especially from you out of all
people. Let me ask you a question. By

way, I'm not in the same financial
position as you. I'm sorry.

How do you know my financial position?

Well, the house came foreclosed on.

Because you speak to Mo and Mo speaks to
PJ? No, because it was in the news.

Okay, so I really hope to God things
stay amicable with you and Mo. I really

and I hope to God nothing turns.

Me too. But if and when it does, and
you're dealing with what I have had to

with, maybe, maybe you'll find it
difficult to sit in rooms and

when you're bursting at the seams and
you want to actually be talking to your

girlfriends and have a little bit of
support only to have people either

you, talking behind your back, or...

suggesting, I don't know, Moe, like that
chance of surprise.

Mimi from Dallas said it was
disappointing to see Moe downplaying

like it's no big deal. Oh, my God. And
even admitting that he drinks with him,

that's called an enabler. I want him to
be involved, but he has to show up clear

-headed. He's always been clear -headed.
Moe, he started drinking again.

If I go to dinner with him, he's...

ordering, you know, a glass of wine,
maybe two. We're not sitting there

it. He didn't stop drinking for a year
because just for a casual thing.

He stopped drinking because he needed to
stop drinking.

There's always two sides to every story.

That's such a guy thing. That's called
guys.

That's such a bro thing. No, that's not
called guys. That's what dudes do.

He's not a babysitter. He came in as a
soldier.

Mo doesn't have a problem.

And if Mo really, really, really cared
about him, Mo would be saying to him,

listen, buddy, you know what?

Let's slow down. I've seen guys at their
darkest point and none of their friends

until they are literally on the ground.

I don't want to stick up for the men.

Sorry, I love men, Andy. So do I.

Moving on to your finances, last year on
this stage, we talked about the news

that your home had gone into pre
-foreclosure. You said at the time that

resolved it.

Yes, or so I thought, by the way.
However, just this week, there are new

indicating the house is in trouble again
with a debt of over $800 ,000.

It is in pre -foreclosure, and PK hadn't
been paying the mortgage.

Could you downsize?

It's not...

It's not about staying in the house.

It's about I believed he was paying the
mortgage. Oh, which is wrong. And so I'm

blindsided. Now, listen, it's my fault
as well because at this point I

trust or believe without checking. But
were you checking monthly that it was

being paid? No, no.

PK is saying he's going to bring the
house current.

Then I'm going to put the house on the
market and find a house for the kids and

I. This is the plan right now. Thank
you. Okay. But it could change. Okay.

From what I've experienced, anything can
change. Right. Like maybe he doesn't

bring the house current, but you need to
get in a situation where you can be

flexible. I know exactly what I have to
do.

Even before this news, people were
shocked and concerned about your lack of

knowledge about your finances. I want to
clear something up because you made a

statement that I outsourced my financial
well -being to a man and it didn't go

well.

I want to clear something up because you
made a statement that I outsourced my

financial well -being to a man and it
didn't go well. Maybe she's intimidated.

Because I'm young and successful and I'm
not financially dependent on a man and

she outsourced her financial well -being
to a man and it didn't go well.

PK was coming out of bankruptcy when I
met him.

Uh -huh. Him and I built everything
together.

Okay. So that statement, not only was it
inaccurate...

It was offensive.

It does feel like you're also insulting
a lot of women who decided to have a

child and raise their kids and not make
money.

That's how it feels.

But you can have a man be in charge of
money and still know what's going on

your money, and you not make the money
personally, and that can be a totally

wonderful life.

I thought you were talking about me, and
I was upset. I thought you were talking

about me, too. But I can say... I mean,
but a lot of people can put their... I

know. I was shocked. I was like, she
doesn't fucking know me at all.

What I would want for all women and all
of us is to know what's going on with

our money. And I don't think not knowing
is a good plan.

Agreed. But I could see how that would
be hurtful, and I'm sorry.

So as we close out, Dori, what is the
latest on your divorce proceedings?

Listen, every time you ask me, how are
things with you and PK, I really want to

be saying we're in a great place.
Everything's great, but it's not the

And you know what?

It wasn't the truth.

Right now, things, thank God, after the
kid's birthday, this is the first time

in almost two years, Andy.

So today, as we sit here today, things
are better? Yes. Good. Thank God. That

is, by the way, the most important
thing. And I've been waiting for you to

me, and I couldn't wait to tell you.
Tell me about it. That's great.

All right.

Well, this season, money queen Amanda
Francis was the new girl on the block,

even though she lived on a very familiar
block in Kyle's old Bel -Air house.

But some people thought this self
-proclaimed breadwinner spent a little

much time buttering herself up while
only offering crumbs about her career

her traumatic past. Watch.

I'm best known for my best -selling
book, Rich as Fuck, which helps women

redefine their relationship with money
and manifests more into their lives.

She's getting married, too.

When's your date?

10 -10 -26.

Ooh, that sounds good.

People say you can't have it all, and I
do.

I do have it all.

But I'm the breadwinner. I always have
been. But he's very motivated to be able

to take care of me. I love being the
fucking breadwinner. I really do love

It was my money, I should be clear, when
I bought it.

I mean, we have renovated together, but
I did buy it. Yeah. Sorry.

Why would you share that?

That doesn't, like, add value to the
conversation.

You know?

I found that I had a gift around, like,
the energetic part of money.

I have no formal business experience.

But I was like, let's make this a
personal development brand.

What is this frou -frou mess we're
talking about? I have all the stats.

80 % of people who buy a course buy a
second course. I have less than a 3 %

refund rate, which is unheard of in my
industry. That is a very, very low

of people wanting refunds on digital
products.

So here's the problem, Amanda. You are
defending your business instead of

telling us what you actually do. The
baseline of Amanda's defense mechanism,

whenever she gets criticism, is that
she's insecure.

I went looking up her book, and I see
this blog that says, I was in a cult.

I'm sorry, what?

Do you think I'm fake? I think that you
are not being clear about your life. I

can't have a life that looks good and
feels good. Well, your life is not pure.

How do they expect me to be more open
when they put me down and question

everything I do at every turn?

She's built a cult.

What happened? She walked away from one
and built one.

This has got to stop.

All right. So, Amanda, not since Camille
Grammer season one have I seen someone

enter this group and light up the
audience.

Yeah, you're welcome.

So, let's start with the positive, shall
we? Sure. Yes.

Maura from New Hampshire said, you know
what I love about Amanda? She got all

the ladies activated and she barely had
to try.

To real reality, said Amanda, has a
cutest family and a very hot husband. I

this for her.

Speaking of your hot husband, I saw that
the two of you got married. Yeah.

Congratulations. You had your first of
two ceremonies.

Yeah, at 9 -9 -25, we had our courthouse
wedding.

And the big you coming in on the
helicopter and him coming on in the

Yeah. That's... 10 -10 -26, yeah. Wow.

So, on the other hand, many fans were
taken aback by how you speak about your

husband. Nora from Topeka said, does
Amanda realize every time she talks

her husband, she makes him sound like a
freeloader?

Okay, Eddie's not a freeloader. He has a
job. He owns a company. He works. He's

a wonderful man.

He's a good, good, good, good man. He
takes care of me in a million ways every

day. He knows I make more money than
him. He knows I'm super proud of it. How

does he feel about you putting that on
blast, though?

My ex would have died. I don't think he
would consider it on blast. Did he say

anything to you about that?

He said, hey, the only thing was when
you paid for the house.

No, no, no, because I paid for the
house. Listen, for what I do, it is in

that I want women to know always that
they can do it.

But out of respect for your husband, who
is so adoring. I don't think he

considers it disrespectful.

He wouldn't see that as disrespectful?

No, the house, I think, was fair. I did
buy it. We renovated it together.

But what did he say this season? He said
what? You were going to say... Uh -oh,

he was like that I make more... I make
more in a month than he makes in a year,

specifically. He's like, yes, that is
true.

And maybe you didn't have to say it that
way.

And it is true.

But do you see how you could plant seeds
of contempt that blossom years down the

road? You do plan to be with this man
forever, right? Yeah. Right. Okay. So

you say things like this, they get
buried and then they fester. They could.

Maybe. But as the show comes out, as you
see the articles, as you see these

comments, we are in bed together
talking. There's me saying, hey, I meant

My point to you is this.

everything is on the upswing everything
is beautiful the seeds you plant now

they will blossom when it fucks up and
you will you will pay for that

later but amanda i think what he's
saying right now he he's not saying that

you're telling me how my husband feels
no i'm telling you that when you

emasculate someone who adores you and
loves you it doesn't matter how much

money I've made in my career than my
husband if I did.

I'm still, there is not one moment in my
entire life where I have said that to

anyone, let alone on television. But you
don't teach women that they can make

money. I don't teach women that they can
make money. No, no, you inspire women.

But it, absolutely you inspire women
that they can make money. But this is my

job. Like, I look at myself a lot. With
my marriage, my husband, if he had said

those things about me.

When we were 40 years old, like, well,
I'm the bread maker. I bought the house.

I did this. I did that. And here's
little old me, like, with a baby in my

like, great for you, you know. But men
have always traditionally made the

Then it builds up resentment. This isn't
a gang up on you. No. This is life.

This is for being helpful.

This is life. I asked him if he felt
emasculated. He said absolutely not.

very secure. We're like not far.

Okay.

So. The criticism was not limited to how
you speak about Eddie. You were getting

critiqued about millennial phrases,
bragging about designers, or the money

of it all. Was there one thing that
surprised you that you were hearing from

people that you were like, really?

The designer stuff a little bit or the
bragging stuff a little bit because I

thought I was on a show about rich women
with cool shit. I thought there was a

lot of designer talk. That's one part of
the show you're on. That's not the lead

part of the show you're on. I didn't
think I was leading with it. The lead

is your fucking heart and soul.

And we've had a hard time getting to
your heart and soul.

Ding dong on Twitter said, Amanda's need
to one -up and compete with everything

the women have acquired is exhausting.

Dirty Jenny on Twitter said, what is up
with Amanda and mentioning the label so

much? What is she trying to prove?
You're talking to a Hilton, for goodness

sake. I think everyone brought up label.

Often on the show, I would bring it up.
There would be this, like, pause,

silence after.

But other people would say, this is
this, this is this. We are on a set of

Drive, let me point out. Do you feel
like you had to do that when you came

this group? Because I think it came off
like that. Yes, and I saw her use in

Sedona saying, make sure you get a shot
of this, telling the cameraman to please

make sure you get a shot of my Chanel
bag.

You are sitting on a couch. I thought it
was cute.

No.

Cannot lead with that shit. We are too
old and too experienced.

I saw her use in Sedona telling the
cameraman to please make sure you get a

of my Chanel bag.

You are with... I thought it was cute.

No.

Cannot lead with that shit.

We are too old and too experienced.

We want you, not the veneer. But I
remember, I think, the misconception

was somehow hiding me.

It felt that way.

I should stop talking.

Rachel, you said you have a hard time
with Amanda because she acts strong, but

she plays the victim at the same time. I
think the conflict that I've had is

what you just said about how you want to
teach women and how you want to...

welcome in every room and everyone knows
who you are and whatever i said i want

to walk in everyone over and over you
said that every room you walk into

everyone knows who you are outside of
our group i'm in a world where everyone

gets me and everyone loves it all my
friends take my courses and everyone has

this foundation of like what amanda's
about and i haven't been in a world in a

long time where people didn't know who i
was and what i built and like why

No, I said that I'm used to when I walk
into a room, people know who I am and

what I do. They know my heart. They know
my intention. Okay, no, no, you didn't

follow it with that. You did not. I did.
I explained it.

No, but in the moment you didn't follow
it. But in the moment. But that's not

what I meant.

Okay. That's how you took it. It's not
how I took it. It's what you said.

So I guess what I'm saying is like
because when you say those things and

followed by the explanation of why
you're saying it.

How could I hear it differently, right?
So I'm saying, who actually said that?

Because if you knew who I was and what I
do, you'd know that that's not what I

meant. But I don't.

We're trying to know you. You've rubbed
everybody the wrong way.

It's hard to do that in this group.

Well, I did it.

There was a lot of, I feel
uncomfortable. I feel unsafe.

I feel this. And that's very victim -y
rather than I'm the strong person

believing in.

who I am as a woman and what I teach and
how strong I am and how I lead. So

guess what? Don't come at me like that.
What are you talking about? Not like,

this doesn't feel good to me. You go
into victim mode.

It's just a contradiction, that's all.

Like, okay, are you the victim or are
you the leader? Or are you uncomfortable

or are you unsafe?

Yeah, good question. Because life is
uncomfortable.

And that's how you grow.

We're in uncomfortable.

Is this a show? If you're having fun on
this show. This show is uncomfortable.

This show is uncomfortable.

This show is uncomfortable. Yeah. I
think it is very uncomfortable.

And she obviously is not used to a
setting like this, which it is a lot.

this is not an easy group to crack.

And the audience also noted that Amanda
didn't seem to be welcomed with open

arms. Who is?

Tanyan on Twitter said, is anyone else
finding it cringy how rude everyone's

treating Amanda? They're not giving her
a chance at all.

It's screaming. overwhelming jealousy
kyle what's your opinion of this um well

like i said when somebody new comes in i
really do have a lot of empathy and you

know try to make them feel comfortable
and i can sort of after this many years

see why someone acts a certain way or
behave a certain way and you know maybe

someone's not your cup of tea you know
that's fine that's one thing but i don't

think there's a reason to be unkind
right like in kyle's defense she's

been the ambassador

But I mean, also, you know, it just felt
like.

Well, listen, I mean, somebody had to
agree.

Boze would disagree with that. Boze is
very nice to you. I'm kidding. I'm

kidding. But by the way, Boze, I've been
nothing but nice to you. I know.

Nothing but nice to you. And part of it
is I'm kidding, right? Because I know.

And we talked about. But are you? I have
been nothing but kind to you. And you

have been so kind. For two years. You
have been very kind. And last year, what

said was that I found you cold. Yeah.
Because you were holding back things

me, which is fine.

But it doesn't mean that, like, I felt a
warm blanket.

But I feel like we keep growing.

I don't want to go back to where we keep
going. I want to bring it back to

Amanda. And I want to move on to your
business, Amanda. You did an interview

where you said both tried to create a
personal development brand. It did not

well. She's losing money on her courses.
She told me so. Let's talk about this.

Because when in the hell did I tell you
that I was losing money on my business?

That is crazy.

In the vineyard. Girl, I did not tell
you that.

Why would I have told you that?

Let's just consider our relationship at
that point.

Let's pretend for one second that I was
losing money, which I'm not.

Why would I confide that in you? It
wasn't a confiding moment. It was

essentially saying, if I'm losing money
on courses, there's no way you can be

making money.

making money on courses and not be doing
something wrong. That doesn't make any

sense, Amanda.

That's what you said.

It's not what I said. I think they have
it on camera.

And they don't because I didn't say
that. Online workshopping, that's not

do for work. You know what I mean? I'm
so curious about it because we have the

NLR. Yeah, you said I don't need to make
money from this. I don't. Right. I'll

leave money on it. Yeah.

But that's okay with me because that's
the choice I made. And additionally,

just let you know because I do need to
clarify this comparison between our

online courses.

You have an online business.

I don't have an online business. I have
a teaching course based on a class I

taught at Harvard for three semesters.

It gives people the opportunity to
understand the keys I did not have as a

business person so that they understand
how to negotiate for a better race, ask

for more promotion.

They understand how to present in a
boardroom. And so for me, it's not about

making money.

My point is that my class is to open the
door for people who can't go to

Harvard. You are promoting your
businesses and setting up your margins

can be rich as fuck.

That is not my intention.

It's a charitable venture.

Absolutely. And so, by the way, that is
not failure.

I didn't say it was a failure. Yes, you
did.

Next week, the reunion continues.

Jennifer Tilly talked to me about this
dress.

This is my face on the front of it. I
see that.

Will you be asking for half of the
agency?

Half of it's mine.

Did he realize that?

You told me that Amanda took out a $2
million loan just before she started

filming. Well, you did. You did?

You want to talk about the past two
years, but we haven't been friends. This

exactly it. Stop saying that we are
friends.