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He'll make a good king.
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He'll be ready.
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That's the way.
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Come on, my son!
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The Oscar-winning 1968 historical
epic, The Lion in Winter,
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starring Peter O'Toole,
and a sublime Katharine Hepburn,
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ranks as a psychological thriller,
a dark love story,
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and a crucible of devious plotting.
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There are few family Christmas
gatherings to rival it.
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How would you describe
the family gathering
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at the centre of The Lion in Winter?
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Well, Henry II,
who is the King of England
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and vast parts of France,
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well, he owns the territory
in vast parts of France,
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has decided the time has come
to appoint his successor,
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and this is accurately in the
days before the assumption was
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the oldest son inherited,
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so he can choose who he
wants to take his crown.
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So he has sort of the arrogance
to bring these people together,
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bring his wife and
his mistress together,
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bring the King of France together,
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it's a massive power play really,
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a huge display of arrogance
and power, to say,
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"Right, come on, all of you who
I know at various different times,
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apart from my mistress,
have conspired against me,
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I'm going to get you in here and
I'm going to tell you what to do."
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So it, and that's really
essentially what happened.
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Have you found religion, Henry?
Eh?
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Will you look down from heaven and
see who is sitting on your throne?
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I must know before I die.
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There's a legend of a king
called Lear,
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with whom I have a lot in common.
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Both of us have kingdoms
and three children we adore,
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and both of us are old,
but there it ends.
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He cuts his kingdom into bits,
and I can't do that.
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I built an empire
and I must know it's going to last.
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All of Britain, half of France,
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I'm the greatest power in 1,000
years, and after me comes John.
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The year is 1138,
and O'Toole's Henry II
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calls his three disappointing
sons to join him at Christmas.
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Anthony Hopkins'
intemperate Richard, is the eldest.
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John Castle's cold Geoffrey,
is the forgotten middle child,
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and Nigel Terry's ignorant
rube John, the youngest,
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has somehow become the favourite.
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Unexpectedly,
Henry also decides to temporarily
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release his estranged wife
from prison.
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Manipulative, aggrieved,
and very vocal,
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Hepburn's Eleanor of Aquitaine,
is the star of the show.
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Your majesty?
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There is to be a Christmas court.
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Yes, madam.
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Where?
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At Chinon.
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The Lion is Henry II, surely
he is in the winter of his life.
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He has reached 50,
which is a ripe old age
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for a man in the 12th century,
and he has three sons,
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who are apparent heirs and
successors to the throne,
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and he must decide whom
he favours amongst them.
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He and his estranged wife,
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who he has locked away
in a prison for a decade,
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due to their political scheming
and disagreements with one another,
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which have led to various
revolts across the country.
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Henry is 50.
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He says actually,
I'm the oldest man I know,
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which for medieval times,
is a pretty good age.
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So he knows that, you know,
he's in his twilight years,
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and that he has to do
something fairly quickly.
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What he decides to do is to invite
everyone to the castle in Chinon.
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for Christmas Day
and for a festivity,
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and also to decide who will
succeed him on the throne.
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This will involve negotiations
with the French King, Philip II,
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whose sister Alice,
is currently Henry's mistress,
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but is promised to the person
who will become king,
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i.e. in his eyes, John.
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This is the background to it.
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It's a kind of complicated
family saga,
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involving politics and succession.
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None of this is exactly festive.
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Henry has a scheme in mind,
as do they all.
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Secrets will emerge,
layers within layers,
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wounds that run as deep as history.
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There's already a lot of problems
with this whole situation.
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and it does not get better
from then on, basically.
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All of the decisions
and choices that everyone makes,
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whether we can trust them or not,
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whether they're allegiances or
decisions or alliances, work,
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they all largely seem to be
looking for the main opportunity
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to turn each other over
and get what they can.
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So this is a very, very
vicious bout of politicking.
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So is it fair to say the film
is pretty historically accurate?
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Yes, I mean, it is
because Henry II's reign
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was really largely dominated by the
rebellions of his sons against him,
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who formed various allegiances
with and without the King of France.
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Finally, after this film is over,
Henry loses a rebellion
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between- where Philip and
Richard rise against him,
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he has already had a rebellion
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where Geoffrey and his previous son
had risen against him.
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All the time the sons'
ambitions are rising up
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and they're trying to take tracts
of land or overall power.
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I mean it's just constant seething, turmoil.
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This is not like Succession,
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where there's a father
who has absolute control.
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Henry does have a lot of control,
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but he keeps being faced with these
enormous allegiances against him.
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So he wants to try and sort
this out because it's, you know,
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he has built this enormous empire.
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I mean historically at that point,
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the amount of land he was in control
of, thanks to the weddings,
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thanks to the wars, is vast,
and he's, you know- so the Pope
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has to take him seriously,
you know, he's a real player.
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But he wants to make sure that
that survives after he's gone.
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Director Anthony Harvey, stirs
up a great thunderstorm of a film,
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a reminder of the forgotten art
of theatricality.
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Descend your story to the rafters.
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The fate of a nation is at stake,
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as torrents of pent-up emotion
crash upon the castle walls.
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Eleanor of Aquitaine was a very
important and quite remarkable woman
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from medieval history, who in
spite of circumstances often
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being stacked against her,
was courageous and a survivor,
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born into immense wealth with a
great amount of land to her name,
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which sort of then came into Henry
II's holdings after their marriage.
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She bore him several heirs.
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For a while she only had girls,
so that created some complication,
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but she was always
kind of her own person,
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who was very much responsible
for her own political decisions,
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and sometimes acted completely
independently of Henry II,
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which eventually led
to her being locked away
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in increasingly
small towers and prisons.
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And so she faced a great deal
of hardship throughout her life,
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but ultimately she survived, which
was no small feat in those days.
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In marrying Eleanor,
he claimed her land of Aquitaine,
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which is a huge section of France,
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And of course, he had other sections
in Northern France as well,
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which he had conquered basically.
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So as a ruler, he ruled not only
England, but also quite a- quite
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a large proportion of France, more
so than the King of France, Philip.
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Given it was such a complicated
piece of European history,
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why do you think they thought
there was a film in it?
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Well, it started as a play,
and the playwright, James Goldman,
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looked at this period and he thought
well what if these warring,
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this incredibly complex, violent
warring family, was just like us,
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it was a 20th century family in a
sense, that they, they were sulky
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and they were moody and that
they were in and out of love,
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and everything followed the dynamics
of a very, very brittle,
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brutal family Christmas in a sense.
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And that's the humour and the
tragedy and the drama of it, is to-
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they don't really behave
like medieval characters,
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they behave like 20th century
characters,
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with enormously flowing medieval
text
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and ambitions and arguments
over land deals.
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But they are together as a family
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in the way that we would
recognise them.
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The Lion in Winter is a testament
to how the power of performance
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can fill a cinema screen
like a landscape.
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Ah, Christmas.
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Warm and rosy time, the hot wine
steams, the Yule log roars,
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and we're the fat
that's in the fire.
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She'll be here soon, you know?
Who?
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Mother.
Does she still want you to be King?
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While fictional, the story
offers an accurate portrayal
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of the Angevin dynasty
in the 12th century.
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Essentially, Henry II is plagued
by the question of succession,
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with his three surviving sons,
Richard, Geoffrey, and John,
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all manoeuvring to be named heir.
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The drama circles which parent
is backing which son.
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Eleanor is pushing for Richard,
and Henry, for John.
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But they are both hiding
deeper motives.
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And so therefore it's incredibly
easy to watch them
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going through their misbehaviours,
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and understand them in a way that-
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I mean as when we look at even
Shakespeare sometimes, we struggle
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to understand the motives
of some of the characters,
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and he is making them
very much like us.
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And Shakespeare is an interesting
point, isn't it?
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Because, in a sense,
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Goldman is playing to the
Shakespearean tradition,
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he even references King Lear
in the film,
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but also he's rising,
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or doing something slightly
different from it.
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Yes. He has, at one point, Henry II
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talks about this man
he knew called Lear,
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who had a similar problem but
with daughters instead of sons,
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and how he came to an unsatisfactory
conclusion over that.
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Adapted by the Chicago-born James
Goldman from his own Broadway play,
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the script is a thing of wonder.
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This mix of poetry and sarcasm,
historical detail,
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and snappy frisson
of Hepburn's Hollywood classics.
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Backed by independent producer
Joseph E. Levine,
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director Anthony Harvey does
a remarkably confident job
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in enlarging the scope of
the play for the big screen.
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So The Lion in Winter was a stage
play in New York originally,
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and it wasn't actually very
successful when it first ran,
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but it was seen by some influential
people who saw the promise in it.
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And one of those people was
Martin Poll, a film producer,
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and he, along with the influential
producer Joseph E. Levine,
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decided that it would be
a great project
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to be adapted into a screenplay.
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Poll was already
working on another film,
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written by Goldman's younger
brother, William Goldman,
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and he had taken that to Joseph
Levine who was going to produce it.
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That fell apart,
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and Peter O'Toole, who was
involved in the other project,
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said well perhaps we should
look at The Lion in Winter.
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They looked at the screenplay
that James Goldman had produced
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and they said
right, OK, we'll do this one.
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Levine liked the idea of it and
that's how the project started.
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They had Harvey involved
because Peter O'Toole,
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who of course made a huge
contribution to this,
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because he was a big star and
therefore he could call a few shots,
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said I want Harvey, I think
he could do this really well.
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Harvey came on board as a director,
which was a great thing
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because not only was
Harvey a great editor,
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and proved to be a great director,
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but he also got on very
famously with everyone.
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It is a work of rare beauty,
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a foundation stone for a collection
very much alive today.
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Shakespeare's first folio
was published in 1623 by two
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of his friends, fellow
actors in his King's Men group.
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Half the plays had never been
printed before,
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making Ben Johnson's prefatory poem
all the more apt.
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Thou art a
monument without a tomb,
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and art to lie still
while thy book doth live.
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Goldman was knowingly playing
on Shakespearean tradition.
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Henry even has the line,
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"There is a legend of a king
called Lear,
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with whom I have a lot in common,
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though he is frustrated by sons
rather than daughters."
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There are even touches of Hamlet
in his circling doubts.
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But Goldman injects
a modern sensibility
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between the fluent lines.
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The story of a broken marriage
anyone can relate to.
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Goldman uses Shakespeare
in a very interesting way.
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The language, although it is
not actually Shakespearean,
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uses the Shakespearean rhythms.
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There are even, if you listen
really carefully, there are some
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couplets in there, which
sort of we can usually come out
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of the mouth of Katharine Hepburn,
and so she- some- he somehow manages
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to make it sound Shakespearean,
but also with a contemporary edge.
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And it's that balance of language
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and that balance of something
that is archaic and contemporary,
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that he manages to pull
off extraordinarily well.
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You don't feel that there's
any anomaly there at all.
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Goldman will pull together phrases
which sound almost Shakespearean,
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and then he will undercut them
with sort of 20th century sarcasm,
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or you know, screwball comedy lines.
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At one point, Katharine Hepburn
says "Hush boy, Mummy is fighting,
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which is the kind of thing that
clearly is very much of our time.
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So the game is to take a potentially
Shakespearean concept,
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mention Shakespeare, pay tribute,
play with his language,
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but also kind of not rip it apart,
it's not a satire,
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it's just playing with it,
it's a playful piece.
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It always strikes me as a very
unusual variety of historical epic
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because it's claustrophobic,
it's incredibly talkie,
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it's about family dynamics.
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They get the kind of big battle
scene over and done with
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in the first sequence.
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Yes, I mean it's an epic in reverse
in a sense.
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A lot of epics will build up to
the climactic violent confrontation.
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This film starts with a joust
and a battle on a beach,
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and then actually the scenery gets
closer and closer and closer,
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until the final scene really,
is the entire cast in single cellar,
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having the sort of the final
confrontation.
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So the space just diminishes
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and the conversations
become ever more important
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and that's all they have left,
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is the rows that they
have with each other.
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Secretly, Henry has a plan
to disinherit his offspring
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and annul his frozen marriage.
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But Eleanor is more than
a match for his plotting.
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The question is,
what do they really want?
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They may not even know.
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Meanwhile, Timothy Dalton plays
Philip II, King of France,
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who has arrived to discuss peace,
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only to be swept up
in the family squabble.
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My Lord!
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Your Grace!
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Welcome to Chinon.
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Ah, that's better.
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There is the historical perspective
on the complexity of kings
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choosing their children, between
their children, for who should
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inherit the throne, and we all know
now of the sort of palace intrigue
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story, whether that's in film or on
television, of children and nieces
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and nephews backstabbing one another
in order to get access to power.
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And this is a film which very
much trades in this family,
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kind of constantly
selling each other out,
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for lack of a better way of putting
it, constantly tricking each other,
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constantly using emotion
as, as a weapon and using
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emotional blackmail as a weapon,
but then also sometimes there
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being real genuine feeling in what
that, you know, behind that emotion.
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And so it becomes a very complex
game that's being played
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between all of these characters
for succession to the throne.
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It also puts the O'Toole character,
Henry II, in the position
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of having to give away some of his
power, to accept that he is ageing,
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to accept obsolescence and
that is a real problem for him
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because he is such a proud,
arrogant man, and he does not want
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to give up his power really, and he
is not one to accept his mortality.
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Well, what should we hang?
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The holly or each other?
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Would you say, Father, that
I have the makings of a king?
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Splendid king.
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And would you expect me, Father,
to give up without a fight?
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Of course you fight,
I raised you to.
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The film is an unusual epic
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in the sense that it's
set in medieval times,
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it has an unbelievable
authenticity to it,
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which means that you don't have a
lot of sort of great shining armour
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and knights and God knows what.
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It's very, very intimate, and
you get a real sense of what it
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must have been like to actually
live in those times.
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It's fairly sort of grubby, but
and it's obviously incredibly cold,
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which is something that comes
across very well, so you've got
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a sense of discomfort, just personal
discomfort, of all these people.
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The great thing about it is that it
also shows these people to be very
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articulate and witty, and educated,
as indeed they would have been.
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Most previous historical epics
are of course full of cod sort of
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Shakespearean, semi-Shakespearean
language that doesn't ring true.
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Goldman really nails this,
and so the banter between them all
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and the intellectual
sort of manipulation,
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is not only incredibly interesting
to listen to and very funny,
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a great deal of it, but it's also
quite authentic because these people
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at this level, would have had
a very, very good education.
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By 1968, Peter O'Toole was 35,
and a complicated star.
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He was celebrated for the edginess
he found in characters,
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a physical actor
with a penetrating voice.
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He had done Hamlet with Olivier,
won hearts as Lawrence of Arabia,
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and was born to play soured kings.
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His Henry II is a man
trapped by duty, titanic ego,
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and the buried emotions he might
yet have for his wife and sons.
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Peter O'Toole, who is this
incredibly talented and famous actor
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at this point, was known for
having been in Lawrence of Arabia,
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but also for being in Becket in
1964, where he also plays Henry II.
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So it's funny that O'Toole should
want to play the same role again,
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but he was personally very drawn
towards the historical figure.
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He felt that he was witty and
literate, who was capable of
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many war-like acts and you know,
decisiveness, but also was somebody
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who preferred diplomacy,
if possible, and was very clever.
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So O'Toole appreciated the
contradictions of this character,
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and wanted to return to it, and he
also proved instrumental in choosing
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a director,
the director Anthony Harvey,
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for eventually embarking
on this project.
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Peter O'Toole is perfect
for the role of Henry II,
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yet he was quite a lot younger than
the character, he was 35 playing 50.
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But what is it?
What is the meeting of minds here?
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You know, what is it about O'Toole
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that makes him fit
this spoiled king?
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I mean he rises, I think, to this
in a way- if you look at his film
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career, he has spent a lot of
time playing very beautiful men,
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very few beards for a start,
and he's got these cheekbones,
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I mean if you think
of Lawrence of Arabia,
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which is a good few years ago,
earlier,
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he has got these piercing
blue eyes in that film.
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David Lean shoots him
as a very beautiful man.
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And "What's New Pussycat?"
he had just been in,
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and that was a very, again,
he played a sort of a sixties fop.
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So he's quite often played these
elegant, beautiful people.
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So to see him don the beard
and the animal skins and to roar
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and stomp around the place,
it's a big jump.
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But it's not a big jump
because he's so skilful at it.
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He inhabits that role
wholeheartedly.
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How was your crossing?
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Did the channel part for you?
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It went flat when I told it to.
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I didn't think to ask for more.
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How dear of you to
let me out of jail.
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Arriving by barge
on the River Rhone,
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there is no doubt that Katharine
Hepburn is a Hollywood superstar.
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After Guess Who's Coming to Dinner,
she was flourishing in later career,
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finding emotionally fraught roles
that played on her legacy.
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Eleanor is a wronged woman set aside
by Henry for a succession of lovers.
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Hepburn's clipped
mid-Atlantic accent,
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adds a delicious
self-awareness to the Queen.
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"I am not one of the ones
who gives a damn",
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she sneers, a line straight
of her forties' heyday.
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Katharine Hepburn,
by the late 1960s,
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had this already remarkable
legacy from her screwball days
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in the great comedies opposite Cary
Grant, Bringing Up Baby, et cetera,
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in the 1930s, and was hugely
respected as a political,
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intelligent, sort of self-contained,
and independent woman of that era,
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when many of those women from her
kind of contemporary star stable,
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were a little bit more made out
to be glamour girls.
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And she, whilst very glamorous
in her youth,
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had a certain kind of strength of
character that really shone through,
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and I think she had great respect
from all different walks of life.
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Certainly Peter O'Toole
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and all the rest of the casting crew
on the set of The Lion in Winter,
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to hear tell of it,
were pretty much in awe of her.
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There is no doubt that the
casting of Katharine Hepburn
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is absolutely crucial
as Eleanor of Aquitaine.
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She brings with her, her own
sense of being Hollywood royalty.
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She is a veteran now,
she is a survivor,
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she has survived a- Hepburn herself
of course, survived, you know,
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the rises and falls and rise
again of a career in Hollywood,
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much like Eleanor herself, who sort
of rose, fell, rose again finally.
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So they're both survivors.
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But what I think is really
important is that she can-
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she's got the right kind of spirit.
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She has that indomitable female
spirit that is half masculine,
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but she's still a woman.
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So she can, you know, she can
argue against Henry with the best-
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She's Henry's equal in terms
of just intelligence, and wit.
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And that's what makes the battle
between them so interesting.
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It also allows her to show at some
stage, her own vulnerability
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and Hepburn was vulnerable
at the time of the casting,
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because she hadn't long lost the
love of her life, Spencer Tracy,
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and it was Peter O'Toole who had
to persuade her to take this role.
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Where is Henry?
Upstairs with the family at home.
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That's a mean and tawdry
way to talk about your fiancee.
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My fiancee.
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Whosever fiancee, I brought her up
and she is dear to me and gentle.
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He still plans to make John king.
Of course he does.
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My, what a greedy
little trinity you are.
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King, king, king.
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Two of you must learn to
live with disappointment.
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Ah, but which two?
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Next to nigh them
all and live forever.
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Tusk to tusk through all eternity.
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In only his second film,
Anthony Hopkins demonstrates
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the intensity that has
marked out his career.
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As the story has it,
constant soldier Richard,
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is a guarded homosexual, desperate
for his father's attention.
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John Castle gives
the most intriguing performance
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as discounted Geoffrey,
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a young man made of wheels
and gears as his father puts it.
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Nigel Terry's guileless John
is clearly the wrong choice.
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A whingeing brat,
desperate for his inheritance.
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Richard, played by Anthony Hopkins,
is obviously the warrior, and he's
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obviously the man who loves going
to war and fighting in battles.
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You see him at the beginning
having a duel with somebody,
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and he's about to sort of kill him,
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and it's not actually supposed
to be a lethal battle,
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but you see his face and you
realise that he could be psychotic.
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I mean his face is sort
of like frenzied with bloodlust,
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and you think, whoops, he's a
guy you want to keep an eye on.
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Geoffrey, the second one,
John Castle, is the most mysterious,
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because he's the one that you
can't read, he's obviously clever,
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he's obviously sort of slightly
sidelined by the other two,
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being the middle brother, but you
can tell just through his eyes,
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that he's constantly scheming,
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that he will, you know,
he will scheme and plot
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and it doesn't matter who with, as
long as it will be to his advantage.
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He's a total strategist.
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John, played by Nigel Terry,
is a bit oafish,
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probably a little too oafish.
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But the three of them naturally
form this kind of little cabal.
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Weirdly enough,
that sets up a tension,
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not just between the three of them,
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but also between them
and their parents.
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And I think that's real smart work.
I think that's very, very clever.
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A nation is a human thing,
it does what we do for our reasons.
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Surely if we're civilised,
we can put away the knives,
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we can make peace?
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We have it in our hands.
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I have tutors of my own.
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- Will that be all?
- Oh, think.
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You came here for a reason.
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Don't you want to ask me
if I've got an offer?
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Have you got an offer?
Not yet, but I'll think of one.
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Oh, by the way,
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you're better at this
than I thought you would be.
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I wasn't sure you'd noticed.
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Timothy Dalton is such a revelation
and a surprise in this film.
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When he turns up, he's the new king
of France, his father has passed,
463
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:26,599
he's young, he looks young,
he's this very pretty,
464
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,519
almost teenage looking young man,
465
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:33,439
and he keeps being called
boy and lad, and given advice
466
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:38,319
by the much older King Henry
and this infuriates him to no end.
467
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:43,759
So it's a, you know, there's no love
lost here between these two rulers,
468
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:47,519
and Henry, because he has
such large holdings of land
469
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:52,319
across all of France, has far
more power than young King Philip.
470
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,879
So Philip is keen to get
the upper hand wherever he can.
471
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:59,879
This is a study of the mind games
played between all the characters.
472
00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:03,439
And the acting is boldly dramatic,
to match the occasion,
473
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,239
often to the point of hysteria.
474
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,719
The voluble chemistry between
the leads was helped by the fact
475
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,599
that O'Toole and Hepburn,
were close friends.
476
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,359
They are clearly thrilling
477
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,439
to the dance of this love-hate
relationship.
478
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,039
Now we should, before we get
into the actors themselves,
479
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:21,839
we should talk about acting.
480
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,479
Because I imagine modern
audiences might look at it
481
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,359
and think this is over the top,
this is too much, everybody is
482
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:31,719
shouting, everyone is collapsing in
a heap, there's a lot of hysteria.
483
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:35,359
But to my mind, it's a particular
skill, this kind of theatricality,
484
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:39,440
this kind of power that it has,
and the actors really go for it.
485
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:44,959
Yes, and I think partly perhaps
because of the scenery,
486
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:49,879
it's shot on location in, well
a castle-style abbey in France,
487
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:54,039
and then they reconstruct
that in the studio as well.
488
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:59,919
The backdrop is vast and stone,
so in a way, the backdrop absorbs
489
00:29:59,920 --> 00:30:03,719
some of the excessive drama
of the actors, and you don't
490
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:08,279
feel quite as much as if you're
watching an over-the-top episode
491
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,919
of a TV programme where people
are blasting away over-loudly.
492
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,639
You know, they are bearded
and they are shouting "Boy!"
493
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,399
But it doesn't-
it just manages to stay
494
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:21,079
within what I think is a fully
acceptable modern film.
495
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,239
They, partly because they,
496
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:28,479
they slide very quickly
into very close, very small,
497
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:32,679
very despairing emotions,
loving emotions, moments of silence.
498
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:36,399
So it's not as if the whole thing
is performed at the bluster
499
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:40,799
and, you know, corny sort of take
on what a medieval epic would be,
500
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,279
they are able to move
into these very tight,
501
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:46,919
very intimate performances,
almost on the turn of a heel.
502
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:51,719
Filmed in Ireland, Wales, and at
the Abbaye de Montmajou in France,
503
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,119
the look is wonderfully evocative.
504
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:57,359
The use of natural light
and shadows,
505
00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:02,319
the flickering candles, and how the
walls bear down upon the characters.
506
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:06,479
It may be the most claustrophobic
epic ever made.
507
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,919
The director escapes
the script's theatrical roots,
508
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,039
via astonishing close-ups.
509
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:16,680
Eyes are a central motif,
gateways to troubled souls.
510
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,119
The studios
were in Ardmore in Ireland,
511
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:25,679
but the film locations
were in Wales, and France,
512
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:29,399
and especially Carcassonne, so
anywhere that there was sort of mid-
513
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,799
still had sort of medieval
looking places and walls,
514
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:34,279
so he went around a bit.
515
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,919
I think that's probably what
gives it its great, its great
516
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:42,879
sense of atmosphere and history,
without sort of overdoing it.
517
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:44,599
They didn't have to build
too many sets,
518
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,599
all the interiors are done,
but that's fine, they're all
519
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:51,319
sort of stone corridors and walls
and steps and things like that.
520
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,919
But the exteriors
are the real thing.
521
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:58,519
So I think the whole design of
the film and the way that it was
522
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:02,879
sort of, they, the actors use
those sets, is very important.
523
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:06,959
It all adds to the idea that
you are in a different world,
524
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:08,639
you're in a different era.
525
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,479
There is nothing fake about it.
526
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,919
I mean you know, the fact
that you've got live animals
527
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:16,359
running around all over the place.
528
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,479
When King Henry
sort of walks into the market place,
529
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,479
he kicks a couple of chickens
out of the way.
530
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,639
And there's even in the corner,
there is a bear, a real bear,
531
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:24,759
who is being fed.
532
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,679
It's obviously one
of the bear-baiting you know, bears,
533
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:29,359
but he seems to be perfectly happy.
534
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:32,079
And you think God, this is a tiny
little detail, I mean you can hardly
535
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,719
see it, but it's there, and I think
that that's what's important.
536
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:39,479
It gives the idea that this is,
this is life as it really was.
537
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:43,279
Costumes by Margaret Furse
deserve special mention.
538
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,679
The characters are robed
in their personalities.
539
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:52,079
Eleanor in regal colours, but
confining her like a nun's habit.
540
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:57,560
Henry in a drab peasant tunic, as if
rejecting his very station as king.
541
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:02,959
Richard with hints of armour,
Geoffrey in featureless robes,
542
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,879
and John an unkempt street urchin.
543
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:09,039
And Philip as dapper as a peacock.
544
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:12,279
Meanwhile,
John Barry's glorious fanfares
545
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:15,359
remind us that this
is royalty at war.
546
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:18,399
The costuming of The Lion in
Winter, is really important,
547
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,439
not only in the fact of Peter
O'Toole's costuming being rather
548
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:25,759
understated, or the John character,
the youngest son, looking you know,
549
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:30,279
kind of scruffy and like a peasant,
and Anthony Hopkins with typical,
550
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:34,919
the typical wit, of the screenplay,
calling him a walking pustule.
551
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:38,079
There is a real kind of
earthiness to a lot of it,
552
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:39,639
but then on the flip side,
553
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,879
you get the way that Furse
dresses Katharine Hepburn.
554
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:48,599
And Eleanor of Aquitaine, in spite
of her kind of imprisonment,
555
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,919
is somebody who commands
great dignity,
556
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:53,839
and you see that in
her sweeping clothes.
557
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:57,279
There's a beautiful red dress
that she wears,
558
00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:01,839
and all this jewellery that she
kind of almost plays dress up with
559
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:06,519
because she's confined and bored and
left to her own devices, and lonely,
560
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:10,359
and sort of thinking about the past
and what she's achieved within it.
561
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,079
And she's looking at her crown,
562
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,479
she's looking at all
of her grand jewels,
563
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,959
and so the role of costuming
and jewellery
564
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:19,719
to the Eleanor of Aquitaine
character,
565
00:34:19,720 --> 00:34:22,799
I think, is particularly important
because she's still so queenly,
566
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:26,759
in spite of her being in
this marginalised position.
567
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,880
Ah. There you are.
568
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:35,320
My comfort, and my company.
569
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,640
We're locked in for another year.
570
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,080
Four seasons more.
571
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:51,000
What a desolation.
572
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,080
What a life's work.
573
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,239
There is something
of Edgar Allan Poe's House of Usher
574
00:35:37,240 --> 00:35:40,319
in The Lion in Winter's
warped family dynamics.
575
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:44,919
It is the story of the ruin parents
can bring upon their children.
576
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:48,959
It is about language,
power, and manipulation,
577
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,159
and finally,
about the turmoil of love.
578
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:56,079
The film is seeking to grasp
what this raging couple actually
579
00:35:56,080 --> 00:36:01,159
mean to one another, ending on
the delightfully light-hearted note.
580
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:04,879
"You will let me out for Easter,"
urges Eleanor,
581
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:08,040
as if all this was simply
a family tradition.
582
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:13,959
Now one thing theatre can't do
that movies can, is the close-up.
583
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,319
And you've mentioned how
good the close-ups were,
584
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,559
but what do they give this film,
the idea of studying faces?
585
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,799
Well there's
a lot of silence in this film.
586
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:27,319
Even though it's people speak loudly
and powerfully,
587
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:30,039
there's an awful lot of silence,
and this is one of the things
588
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,759
I'm sure we'll come onto the score,
one of the things about the score
589
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,759
is it's absent, critically, for
very, very long periods of time.
590
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:37,799
There will be periods of time
where all you have
591
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:41,759
is a close-up on a face,
reacting to what they're observing,
592
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,159
or to what they are understanding
to be true.
593
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:48,359
There's quite a lot of people
understanding something and weeping,
594
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,839
but not because they're
obviously royal family,
595
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,839
not bursting into tears, there's
just the tears pouring from their
596
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:57,439
eyes as yet another of their great
dreams and hopes has been dashed.
597
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:01,079
And these are, these are moments
where the camera just stays
598
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,519
painfully long on faces.
599
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:05,759
They rehearsed a long time.
600
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:09,799
So he would get the cast
to go through the scene,
601
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:10,999
go through the scene,
602
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,839
and then he would plot out where
the camera would be, to make sure
603
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:17,119
that he would get the faces, and
hold them for as long as possible.
604
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:20,919
There is one 11-minute sequence
where the camera only cuts twice,
605
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,519
and the final cut
is at the end when he,
606
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:25,919
when the camera leads them
downstairs.
607
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,679
But most of the time, there
can be quite, can be long,
608
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,999
single shots, and you don't even
notice they're long, single shots,
609
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:33,919
because the passion
and the drama on screen,
610
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,000
you don't need to cut away from it.
611
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:38,919
Following the events of the film,
612
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:42,759
Henry had to deal with yet another
revolt, which he lost, and so he
613
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:46,999
basically retired to a castle,
and spent his last days there.
614
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:48,919
He died about two years later.
615
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:54,319
Eleanor actually was freed
from her incarceration.
616
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,039
Eleanor of Aquitaine got her wish.
617
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,479
Her son Richard,
ascended to the throne
618
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:00,799
and became known as
Richard the Lionheart.
619
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:04,719
However, he left on the Crusades,
and did not return,
620
00:38:04,720 --> 00:38:08,199
so his youngest brother, John,
621
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:11,439
who in the film is very much
the idiot son,
622
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:13,959
then becomes King John,
623
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,839
and he is actually the famous
King John of Robin Hood.
624
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:21,199
So we see the, the line go forward,
625
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,559
and it's very interesting to me
that Eleanor of Aquitaine,
626
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:29,159
not only outlives her husband,
627
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,119
but then outlives her imprisonment.
628
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:32,439
She is freed upon his death
629
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:35,799
and gets to return to the corridors
of power in many ways.
630
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:39,479
So it does feel, as great
as Peter O'Toole is in the film,
631
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:43,239
that history shows that he was
bested in some ways, by Eleanor.
632
00:38:43,240 --> 00:38:46,399
The Lion in Winter would be
a great success both critically
633
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:47,879
and at the Box Office.
634
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:51,479
It would be nominated for seven
Oscars, including Best Film,
635
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:52,999
and Best Director.
636
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:57,039
Goldman would rightly win
for Best Adapted Screenplay,
637
00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:01,679
and Hepburn would receive her
third Oscar for Best Actress.
638
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,359
Eleanor is one of
the great achievements
639
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,239
of an extraordinary career,
640
00:39:06,240 --> 00:39:09,919
standing out in a film
that is all performance.
641
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,559
How do we now look back on
The Lion in Winter?
642
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:14,119
Why has it lasted so long?
643
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:15,959
I think it's lasted so long
644
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:19,839
partly because its quality
was so impressive,
645
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,239
that Hollywood has
never forgotten it.
646
00:39:22,240 --> 00:39:24,839
So you will find,
for instance in the West Wing,
647
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:29,879
they are constantly
referencing that Bartlett,
648
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:31,999
that's his favourite film, and he,
649
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,759
they just, you know, there
are these teaser lines about
650
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,679
The Lion in Winter as being the best
way to understand the presidency.
651
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,799
Succession really, is of course
essentially The Lion in Winter,
652
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,479
but without the level of cunning
and manipulation, you know,
653
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:44,879
the kids are not as clever.
654
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:46,999
They're wimpy compared
- to Lion in Winter.
- Yeah.
655
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:48,439
There are so many of those films.
656
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,719
I mean Game of Thrones is
essentially this film just
657
00:39:50,720 --> 00:39:52,479
played out over a long period
of time.
658
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,279
They have been constantly going
back to and referring to this idea,
659
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,839
and what happens if you
take this struggle for power
660
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,439
and you play it out
in a contemporary era.
661
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,639
So it's changed-
it changes our understanding
662
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,439
of what it is to be powerful.
663
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,639
It takes the medieval concept
of power,
664
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:10,559
and it makes it
completely accessible.
665
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:11,999
But it still holds back
666
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:15,279
because we are talking about
absolute power of life and death.
667
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,919
And so every time someone sets
out on another project to discuss
668
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:22,239
the power of life and death, they
will back-reference Lion in Winter,
669
00:40:22,240 --> 00:40:26,159
and you'll see it in almost any film
in which there is someone who is
670
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:29,879
with, unless it's a pastiche or it's
poorly written, someone desperately
671
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:33,639
trying to engage with the concept
of how you would struggle for power.
672
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:37,759
There's The Lion in Winter
somewhere, it's an eternal film.
673
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:42,119
It's a gangster movie, it's a,
it's a space epic, it's just,
674
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:45,639
it's the story that Hollywood
constantly back-references.
675
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:50,799
But also I think you could almost
say that it's the first film
676
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:55,919
that makes us as a viewing public,
think our royal family,
677
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:59,239
they are like us,
they are human beings too.
678
00:40:59,240 --> 00:41:02,119
It comes at that point in
the sixties where there's
679
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:05,079
a beginning of a breakdown of
a certain kind of deference,
680
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:08,719
and that's when we start to think
about our rulers as the British
681
00:41:08,720 --> 00:41:12,199
and the Americans start to think
about our rulers and say well maybe
682
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:15,119
they're not born to rule, maybe
they're not destined to be elected.
683
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,159
Maybe all these people
are just like us.
684
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:20,439
So it's part of a social change
as well as a filmic change.
685
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:25,519
And so therefore it echoes on and on
and on and on, just that one movie.
686
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:29,199
The thing, the ripples it
sets up, are still going.
687
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,439
The legacy of The Lion in Winter,
688
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:35,679
is that all subsequent historical
films,
689
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:40,079
could not get away with
sloppy historical detail.
690
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,559
They needed to be slightly
more forensic,
691
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,399
they needed to be slightly
more authoritative.
692
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:51,400
Also, they, it showed that you
could put two older stars together
693
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,319
and make it Box Office.
694
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:58,799
In fact, this went on to say Richard
Leicester's Robin and Marian,
695
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:02,039
where you had an ageing Sean Connery
and Audrey Hepburn,
696
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:03,559
and they were wonderful,
697
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:06,199
also written as it happens,
by James Goldman.
698
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:11,999
So this gave, it sort of
opened up the idea of films,
699
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:16,319
historical films that were
A, not boring, B, very witty,
700
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:22,320
and incisive, C, funny,
and yet still authentic.
701
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:27,959
So the legacy of The Lion in Winter
was, was kind of huge immediately,
702
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,519
it was a great success
internationally, it was nominated
703
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:35,399
for all of these Oscars, and rightly
celebrated for its performances.
704
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:39,759
It is a film that I think maybe
younger viewers might hesitate to
705
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:43,479
come to because if you look it
up and you see that it's about
706
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:48,479
the political complications of
choosing a king in 12th century
707
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:53,079
England and France, that seems
intimidating, or maybe a bit stodgy.
708
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:57,959
But if you watch Jesse Armstrong's
TV show Succession,
709
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:02,959
and you like the talkie,
complicated, nasty, funny characters
710
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:06,639
of that show, then you should look
no further than The Lion in Winter
711
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:08,639
as one of its huge influences.
712
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:12,719
There's a beauty, isn't there,
because finally it's about a man
713
00:43:12,720 --> 00:43:15,919
who realises he can't,
whatever the power play may be,
714
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:20,079
he can't kill his son, he can't
destroy- he loves his family.
715
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,879
Although he's driving him mad,
he loves them.
716
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:26,319
And also, he realises it's
his fault, that's the thing,
717
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:30,959
is that he, at the end,
he realises what he's done.
718
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:33,799
It's not quite that he ever says
anything as obvious as, "Oh my God,
719
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:35,679
what have I done,
what has my life become,
720
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:37,119
what have I done with my life?"
721
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:43,080
But we have this story constantly
told that the person in a position,
722
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:46,799
who looks back on what they've done
with their life, and they realise
723
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,439
that they've just
done everything wrong.
724
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,679
It's Arthur Miller, you know,
it's so many writers
725
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:55,799
trying to explore the idea
that at that moment in your life
726
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:59,959
where you look back and you realise
you have broken everything good.
727
00:43:59,960 --> 00:44:02,919
And that's, that's a story
that we never tire of.
728
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:06,919
Television drama Succession has
nothing on The Lion in Winter.
729
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:10,199
What is so powerful,
is the unshakeable humanity
730
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:14,160
that runs through it, and how
wholly entertaining it remains.
731
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:18,279
This glorious film invites us
732
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:22,359
into a visceral and witty
psychological battleground that
733
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:25,079
few other films have even dared.
734
00:44:30,240 --> 00:44:32,639
You'll let me out for Easter?
735
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:36,359
Come the Resurrection,
you can strike me down again.
736
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:38,359
Perhaps next time I'll do it.
737
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:39,760
And perhaps you won't.
738
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:47,360
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