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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:11,600 He'll make a good king. 2 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:14,159 He'll be ready. 3 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:15,759 That's the way. 4 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:17,800 Come on, my son! 5 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:24,199 The Oscar-winning 1968 historical epic, The Lion in Winter, 6 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:28,079 starring Peter O'Toole, and a sublime Katharine Hepburn, 7 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:31,759 ranks as a psychological thriller, a dark love story, 8 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:34,359 and a crucible of devious plotting. 9 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:38,080 There are few family Christmas gatherings to rival it. 10 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:41,359 How would you describe the family gathering 11 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:43,799 at the centre of The Lion in Winter? 12 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:47,239 Well, Henry II, who is the King of England 13 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:49,159 and vast parts of France, 14 00:00:49,160 --> 00:00:51,999 well, he owns the territory in vast parts of France, 15 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:55,679 has decided the time has come to appoint his successor, 16 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:58,759 and this is accurately in the days before the assumption was 17 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:00,639 the oldest son inherited, 18 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:03,999 so he can choose who he wants to take his crown. 19 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:07,839 So he has sort of the arrogance to bring these people together, 20 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:09,799 bring his wife and his mistress together, 21 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:11,519 bring the King of France together, 22 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:13,479 it's a massive power play really, 23 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:15,959 a huge display of arrogance and power, to say, 24 00:01:15,960 --> 00:01:19,919 "Right, come on, all of you who I know at various different times, 25 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:22,839 apart from my mistress, have conspired against me, 26 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:26,519 I'm going to get you in here and I'm going to tell you what to do." 27 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:29,399 So it, and that's really essentially what happened. 28 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:32,279 Have you found religion, Henry? Eh? 29 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:36,519 Will you look down from heaven and see who is sitting on your throne? 30 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:38,480 I must know before I die. 31 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:41,479 There's a legend of a king called Lear, 32 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:43,759 with whom I have a lot in common. 33 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:46,919 Both of us have kingdoms and three children we adore, 34 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:49,679 and both of us are old, but there it ends. 35 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:53,199 He cuts his kingdom into bits, and I can't do that. 36 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:56,679 I built an empire and I must know it's going to last. 37 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:58,399 All of Britain, half of France, 38 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:02,479 I'm the greatest power in 1,000 years, and after me comes John. 39 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:31,759 The year is 1138, and O'Toole's Henry II 40 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:35,919 calls his three disappointing sons to join him at Christmas. 41 00:02:35,920 --> 00:02:39,799 Anthony Hopkins' intemperate Richard, is the eldest. 42 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:45,799 John Castle's cold Geoffrey, is the forgotten middle child, 43 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:50,079 and Nigel Terry's ignorant rube John, the youngest, 44 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:52,079 has somehow become the favourite. 45 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:56,439 Unexpectedly, Henry also decides to temporarily 46 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:59,319 release his estranged wife from prison. 47 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:03,039 Manipulative, aggrieved, and very vocal, 48 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:07,000 Hepburn's Eleanor of Aquitaine, is the star of the show. 49 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:19,360 Your majesty? 50 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:24,680 There is to be a Christmas court. 51 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:26,840 Yes, madam. 52 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:29,240 Where? 53 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:31,000 At Chinon. 54 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:41,399 The Lion is Henry II, surely he is in the winter of his life. 55 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:44,319 He has reached 50, which is a ripe old age 56 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:48,839 for a man in the 12th century, and he has three sons, 57 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:53,999 who are apparent heirs and successors to the throne, 58 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:57,279 and he must decide whom he favours amongst them. 59 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:58,959 He and his estranged wife, 60 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:02,439 who he has locked away in a prison for a decade, 61 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:06,439 due to their political scheming and disagreements with one another, 62 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:09,839 which have led to various revolts across the country. 63 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:11,239 Henry is 50. 64 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:13,559 He says actually, I'm the oldest man I know, 65 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:15,919 which for medieval times, is a pretty good age. 66 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:18,759 So he knows that, you know, he's in his twilight years, 67 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,999 and that he has to do something fairly quickly. 68 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:26,959 What he decides to do is to invite everyone to the castle in Chinon. 69 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:30,239 for Christmas Day and for a festivity, 70 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:34,759 and also to decide who will succeed him on the throne. 71 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:39,759 This will involve negotiations with the French King, Philip II, 72 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:44,399 whose sister Alice, is currently Henry's mistress, 73 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:48,679 but is promised to the person who will become king, 74 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:50,919 i.e. in his eyes, John. 75 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:52,959 This is the background to it. 76 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,359 It's a kind of complicated family saga, 77 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:58,839 involving politics and succession. 78 00:04:58,840 --> 00:05:01,319 None of this is exactly festive. 79 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,839 Henry has a scheme in mind, as do they all. 80 00:05:04,840 --> 00:05:08,079 Secrets will emerge, layers within layers, 81 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:10,960 wounds that run as deep as history. 82 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:16,559 There's already a lot of problems with this whole situation. 83 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:20,479 and it does not get better from then on, basically. 84 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:24,239 All of the decisions and choices that everyone makes, 85 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:25,879 whether we can trust them or not, 86 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:28,799 whether they're allegiances or decisions or alliances, work, 87 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:32,919 they all largely seem to be looking for the main opportunity 88 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,439 to turn each other over and get what they can. 89 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:38,679 So this is a very, very vicious bout of politicking. 90 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:44,519 So is it fair to say the film is pretty historically accurate? 91 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:49,439 Yes, I mean, it is because Henry II's reign 92 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:53,439 was really largely dominated by the rebellions of his sons against him, 93 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:57,439 who formed various allegiances with and without the King of France. 94 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:01,639 Finally, after this film is over, Henry loses a rebellion 95 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:04,639 between- where Philip and Richard rise against him, 96 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:06,359 he has already had a rebellion 97 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:09,399 where Geoffrey and his previous son had risen against him. 98 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:13,319 All the time the sons' ambitions are rising up 99 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:17,239 and they're trying to take tracts of land or overall power. 100 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:20,239 I mean it's just constant seething, turmoil. 101 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:21,679 This is not like Succession, 102 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:23,719 where there's a father who has absolute control. 103 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:25,919 Henry does have a lot of control, 104 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:30,279 but he keeps being faced with these enormous allegiances against him. 105 00:06:30,280 --> 00:06:33,639 So he wants to try and sort this out because it's, you know, 106 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:36,719 he has built this enormous empire. 107 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,439 I mean historically at that point, 108 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:42,199 the amount of land he was in control of, thanks to the weddings, 109 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:47,799 thanks to the wars, is vast, and he's, you know- so the Pope 110 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:50,119 has to take him seriously, you know, he's a real player. 111 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:53,479 But he wants to make sure that that survives after he's gone. 112 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:58,519 Director Anthony Harvey, stirs up a great thunderstorm of a film, 113 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:01,599 a reminder of the forgotten art of theatricality. 114 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:03,800 Descend your story to the rafters. 115 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:07,079 The fate of a nation is at stake, 116 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:11,599 as torrents of pent-up emotion crash upon the castle walls. 117 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:16,079 Eleanor of Aquitaine was a very important and quite remarkable woman 118 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:19,879 from medieval history, who in spite of circumstances often 119 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:23,999 being stacked against her, was courageous and a survivor, 120 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:27,759 born into immense wealth with a great amount of land to her name, 121 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:31,919 which sort of then came into Henry II's holdings after their marriage. 122 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,919 She bore him several heirs. 123 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:39,359 For a while she only had girls, so that created some complication, 124 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:45,119 but she was always kind of her own person, 125 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:49,359 who was very much responsible for her own political decisions, 126 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:52,959 and sometimes acted completely independently of Henry II, 127 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:55,839 which eventually led to her being locked away 128 00:07:55,840 --> 00:08:00,079 in increasingly small towers and prisons. 129 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:03,159 And so she faced a great deal of hardship throughout her life, 130 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:08,439 but ultimately she survived, which was no small feat in those days. 131 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:12,239 In marrying Eleanor, he claimed her land of Aquitaine, 132 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:14,079 which is a huge section of France, 133 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:18,079 And of course, he had other sections in Northern France as well, 134 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:20,519 which he had conquered basically. 135 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:25,519 So as a ruler, he ruled not only England, but also quite a- quite 136 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:30,559 a large proportion of France, more so than the King of France, Philip. 137 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:34,519 Given it was such a complicated piece of European history, 138 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:37,319 why do you think they thought there was a film in it? 139 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:40,479 Well, it started as a play, and the playwright, James Goldman, 140 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:45,239 looked at this period and he thought well what if these warring, 141 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:50,319 this incredibly complex, violent warring family, was just like us, 142 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:54,919 it was a 20th century family in a sense, that they, they were sulky 143 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,679 and they were moody and that they were in and out of love, 144 00:08:57,680 --> 00:09:01,599 and everything followed the dynamics of a very, very brittle, 145 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:03,359 brutal family Christmas in a sense. 146 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:07,439 And that's the humour and the tragedy and the drama of it, is to- 147 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:09,999 they don't really behave like medieval characters, 148 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:11,799 they behave like 20th century characters, 149 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:14,199 with enormously flowing medieval text 150 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:17,359 and ambitions and arguments over land deals. 151 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:19,999 But they are together as a family 152 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:21,759 in the way that we would recognise them. 153 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:26,399 The Lion in Winter is a testament to how the power of performance 154 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:29,319 can fill a cinema screen like a landscape. 155 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:31,559 Ah, Christmas. 156 00:09:31,560 --> 00:09:35,639 Warm and rosy time, the hot wine steams, the Yule log roars, 157 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:37,799 and we're the fat that's in the fire. 158 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:39,399 She'll be here soon, you know? Who? 159 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:42,000 Mother. Does she still want you to be King? 160 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:29,839 While fictional, the story offers an accurate portrayal 161 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:32,879 of the Angevin dynasty in the 12th century. 162 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:37,239 Essentially, Henry II is plagued by the question of succession, 163 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:41,999 with his three surviving sons, Richard, Geoffrey, and John, 164 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,519 all manoeuvring to be named heir. 165 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:48,759 The drama circles which parent is backing which son. 166 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:52,879 Eleanor is pushing for Richard, and Henry, for John. 167 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:55,959 But they are both hiding deeper motives. 168 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:58,559 And so therefore it's incredibly easy to watch them 169 00:10:58,560 --> 00:11:01,199 going through their misbehaviours, 170 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:03,719 and understand them in a way that- 171 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:06,959 I mean as when we look at even Shakespeare sometimes, we struggle 172 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:09,119 to understand the motives of some of the characters, 173 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:11,279 and he is making them very much like us. 174 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:13,439 And Shakespeare is an interesting point, isn't it? 175 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:14,719 Because, in a sense, 176 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:17,079 Goldman is playing to the Shakespearean tradition, 177 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:19,439 he even references King Lear in the film, 178 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:20,999 but also he's rising, 179 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:23,559 or doing something slightly different from it. 180 00:11:23,560 --> 00:11:25,999 Yes. He has, at one point, Henry II 181 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:27,759 talks about this man he knew called Lear, 182 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:30,959 who had a similar problem but with daughters instead of sons, 183 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:33,959 and how he came to an unsatisfactory conclusion over that. 184 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:38,919 Adapted by the Chicago-born James Goldman from his own Broadway play, 185 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:41,239 the script is a thing of wonder. 186 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:46,279 This mix of poetry and sarcasm, historical detail, 187 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:49,999 and snappy frisson of Hepburn's Hollywood classics. 188 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:53,439 Backed by independent producer Joseph E. Levine, 189 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:57,399 director Anthony Harvey does a remarkably confident job 190 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:00,960 in enlarging the scope of the play for the big screen. 191 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:05,879 So The Lion in Winter was a stage play in New York originally, 192 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:08,439 and it wasn't actually very successful when it first ran, 193 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:12,479 but it was seen by some influential people who saw the promise in it. 194 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:15,799 And one of those people was Martin Poll, a film producer, 195 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:20,439 and he, along with the influential producer Joseph E. Levine, 196 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:22,959 decided that it would be a great project 197 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:24,719 to be adapted into a screenplay. 198 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:28,079 Poll was already working on another film, 199 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:33,119 written by Goldman's younger brother, William Goldman, 200 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:37,439 and he had taken that to Joseph Levine who was going to produce it. 201 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:38,959 That fell apart, 202 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:43,919 and Peter O'Toole, who was involved in the other project, 203 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:47,559 said well perhaps we should look at The Lion in Winter. 204 00:12:47,560 --> 00:12:50,879 They looked at the screenplay that James Goldman had produced 205 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:53,919 and they said right, OK, we'll do this one. 206 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:58,879 Levine liked the idea of it and that's how the project started. 207 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:02,679 They had Harvey involved because Peter O'Toole, 208 00:13:02,680 --> 00:13:04,839 who of course made a huge contribution to this, 209 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:08,119 because he was a big star and therefore he could call a few shots, 210 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:11,359 said I want Harvey, I think he could do this really well. 211 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:14,399 Harvey came on board as a director, which was a great thing 212 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:17,199 because not only was Harvey a great editor, 213 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:19,959 and proved to be a great director, 214 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:23,319 but he also got on very famously with everyone. 215 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:29,039 It is a work of rare beauty, 216 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:32,919 a foundation stone for a collection very much alive today. 217 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:36,839 Shakespeare's first folio was published in 1623 by two 218 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:40,839 of his friends, fellow actors in his King's Men group. 219 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:43,239 Half the plays had never been printed before, 220 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:46,959 making Ben Johnson's prefatory poem all the more apt. 221 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:49,519 Thou art a monument without a tomb, 222 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:52,959 and art to lie still while thy book doth live. 223 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:56,199 Goldman was knowingly playing on Shakespearean tradition. 224 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:58,079 Henry even has the line, 225 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:00,639 "There is a legend of a king called Lear, 226 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:02,799 with whom I have a lot in common, 227 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:06,479 though he is frustrated by sons rather than daughters." 228 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:10,479 There are even touches of Hamlet in his circling doubts. 229 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:13,559 But Goldman injects a modern sensibility 230 00:14:13,560 --> 00:14:15,599 between the fluent lines. 231 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:20,039 The story of a broken marriage anyone can relate to. 232 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:22,839 Goldman uses Shakespeare in a very interesting way. 233 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:27,159 The language, although it is not actually Shakespearean, 234 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:29,959 uses the Shakespearean rhythms. 235 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:34,199 There are even, if you listen really carefully, there are some 236 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:38,239 couplets in there, which sort of we can usually come out 237 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:43,319 of the mouth of Katharine Hepburn, and so she- some- he somehow manages 238 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:48,439 to make it sound Shakespearean, but also with a contemporary edge. 239 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:52,799 And it's that balance of language 240 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:58,239 and that balance of something that is archaic and contemporary, 241 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:01,039 that he manages to pull off extraordinarily well. 242 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:03,879 You don't feel that there's any anomaly there at all. 243 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:08,599 Goldman will pull together phrases which sound almost Shakespearean, 244 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:13,119 and then he will undercut them with sort of 20th century sarcasm, 245 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:16,039 or you know, screwball comedy lines. 246 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:20,159 At one point, Katharine Hepburn says "Hush boy, Mummy is fighting, 247 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:23,559 which is the kind of thing that clearly is very much of our time. 248 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:28,759 So the game is to take a potentially Shakespearean concept, 249 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:31,919 mention Shakespeare, pay tribute, play with his language, 250 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:35,759 but also kind of not rip it apart, it's not a satire, 251 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:38,399 it's just playing with it, it's a playful piece. 252 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:42,599 It always strikes me as a very unusual variety of historical epic 253 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:46,079 because it's claustrophobic, it's incredibly talkie, 254 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,319 it's about family dynamics. 255 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:51,279 They get the kind of big battle scene over and done with 256 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:52,679 in the first sequence. 257 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:54,999 Yes, I mean it's an epic in reverse in a sense. 258 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:58,919 A lot of epics will build up to the climactic violent confrontation. 259 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:03,239 This film starts with a joust and a battle on a beach, 260 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:06,919 and then actually the scenery gets closer and closer and closer, 261 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:11,919 until the final scene really, is the entire cast in single cellar, 262 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:14,319 having the sort of the final confrontation. 263 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:16,279 So the space just diminishes 264 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:18,679 and the conversations become ever more important 265 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:20,159 and that's all they have left, 266 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:22,639 is the rows that they have with each other. 267 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:26,359 Secretly, Henry has a plan to disinherit his offspring 268 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:28,399 and annul his frozen marriage. 269 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:31,919 But Eleanor is more than a match for his plotting. 270 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:34,999 The question is, what do they really want? 271 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:36,879 They may not even know. 272 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:41,279 Meanwhile, Timothy Dalton plays Philip II, King of France, 273 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:43,519 who has arrived to discuss peace, 274 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:46,559 only to be swept up in the family squabble. 275 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:54,559 My Lord! 276 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:55,960 Your Grace! 277 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:58,120 Welcome to Chinon. 278 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:10,600 Ah, that's better. 279 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:16,439 There is the historical perspective on the complexity of kings 280 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:20,279 choosing their children, between their children, for who should 281 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:25,239 inherit the throne, and we all know now of the sort of palace intrigue 282 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:29,479 story, whether that's in film or on television, of children and nieces 283 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:33,959 and nephews backstabbing one another in order to get access to power. 284 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:38,519 And this is a film which very much trades in this family, 285 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:41,919 kind of constantly selling each other out, 286 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:45,079 for lack of a better way of putting it, constantly tricking each other, 287 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:49,759 constantly using emotion as, as a weapon and using 288 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:54,079 emotional blackmail as a weapon, but then also sometimes there 289 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:57,839 being real genuine feeling in what that, you know, behind that emotion. 290 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:01,279 And so it becomes a very complex game that's being played 291 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:04,119 between all of these characters for succession to the throne. 292 00:18:04,120 --> 00:18:08,919 It also puts the O'Toole character, Henry II, in the position 293 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:14,719 of having to give away some of his power, to accept that he is ageing, 294 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:18,359 to accept obsolescence and that is a real problem for him 295 00:18:18,360 --> 00:18:22,039 because he is such a proud, arrogant man, and he does not want 296 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:26,399 to give up his power really, and he is not one to accept his mortality. 297 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:28,639 Well, what should we hang? 298 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:30,519 The holly or each other? 299 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:33,399 Would you say, Father, that I have the makings of a king? 300 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:34,759 Splendid king. 301 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:37,559 And would you expect me, Father, to give up without a fight? 302 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:39,879 Of course you fight, I raised you to. 303 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:41,839 The film is an unusual epic 304 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:44,319 in the sense that it's set in medieval times, 305 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:48,239 it has an unbelievable authenticity to it, 306 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:52,839 which means that you don't have a lot of sort of great shining armour 307 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:54,919 and knights and God knows what. 308 00:18:54,920 --> 00:19:00,119 It's very, very intimate, and you get a real sense of what it 309 00:19:00,120 --> 00:19:03,479 must have been like to actually live in those times. 310 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:09,439 It's fairly sort of grubby, but and it's obviously incredibly cold, 311 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:13,159 which is something that comes across very well, so you've got 312 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:17,999 a sense of discomfort, just personal discomfort, of all these people. 313 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:22,519 The great thing about it is that it also shows these people to be very 314 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:27,759 articulate and witty, and educated, as indeed they would have been. 315 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:32,319 Most previous historical epics are of course full of cod sort of 316 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:36,559 Shakespearean, semi-Shakespearean language that doesn't ring true. 317 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:41,839 Goldman really nails this, and so the banter between them all 318 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:45,839 and the intellectual sort of manipulation, 319 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:51,039 is not only incredibly interesting to listen to and very funny, 320 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:56,319 a great deal of it, but it's also quite authentic because these people 321 00:19:56,320 --> 00:20:00,119 at this level, would have had a very, very good education. 322 00:20:00,120 --> 00:20:05,119 By 1968, Peter O'Toole was 35, and a complicated star. 323 00:20:05,120 --> 00:20:08,399 He was celebrated for the edginess he found in characters, 324 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:11,639 a physical actor with a penetrating voice. 325 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:15,999 He had done Hamlet with Olivier, won hearts as Lawrence of Arabia, 326 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,599 and was born to play soured kings. 327 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:24,359 His Henry II is a man trapped by duty, titanic ego, 328 00:20:24,360 --> 00:20:29,000 and the buried emotions he might yet have for his wife and sons. 329 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:33,559 Peter O'Toole, who is this incredibly talented and famous actor 330 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:36,679 at this point, was known for having been in Lawrence of Arabia, 331 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:41,879 but also for being in Becket in 1964, where he also plays Henry II. 332 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:44,879 So it's funny that O'Toole should want to play the same role again, 333 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:48,879 but he was personally very drawn towards the historical figure. 334 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:53,359 He felt that he was witty and literate, who was capable of 335 00:20:53,360 --> 00:20:58,559 many war-like acts and you know, decisiveness, but also was somebody 336 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:02,159 who preferred diplomacy, if possible, and was very clever. 337 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:05,479 So O'Toole appreciated the contradictions of this character, 338 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:09,719 and wanted to return to it, and he also proved instrumental in choosing 339 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:12,239 a director, the director Anthony Harvey, 340 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:15,279 for eventually embarking on this project. 341 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:19,159 Peter O'Toole is perfect for the role of Henry II, 342 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:23,159 yet he was quite a lot younger than the character, he was 35 playing 50. 343 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:25,439 But what is it? What is the meeting of minds here? 344 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:27,119 You know, what is it about O'Toole 345 00:21:27,120 --> 00:21:29,919 that makes him fit this spoiled king? 346 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:34,559 I mean he rises, I think, to this in a way- if you look at his film 347 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:39,719 career, he has spent a lot of time playing very beautiful men, 348 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,999 very few beards for a start, and he's got these cheekbones, 349 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:44,799 I mean if you think of Lawrence of Arabia, 350 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:46,559 which is a good few years ago, earlier, 351 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:48,599 he has got these piercing blue eyes in that film. 352 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:51,319 David Lean shoots him as a very beautiful man. 353 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:53,239 And "What's New Pussycat?" he had just been in, 354 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:55,879 and that was a very, again, he played a sort of a sixties fop. 355 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:59,679 So he's quite often played these elegant, beautiful people. 356 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:04,359 So to see him don the beard and the animal skins and to roar 357 00:22:04,360 --> 00:22:07,719 and stomp around the place, it's a big jump. 358 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,999 But it's not a big jump because he's so skilful at it. 359 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:14,279 He inhabits that role wholeheartedly. 360 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,559 How was your crossing? 361 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:18,640 Did the channel part for you? 362 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,719 It went flat when I told it to. 363 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,480 I didn't think to ask for more. 364 00:22:38,120 --> 00:22:41,359 How dear of you to let me out of jail. 365 00:22:41,360 --> 00:22:44,199 Arriving by barge on the River Rhone, 366 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:47,919 there is no doubt that Katharine Hepburn is a Hollywood superstar. 367 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:52,359 After Guess Who's Coming to Dinner, she was flourishing in later career, 368 00:22:52,360 --> 00:22:56,599 finding emotionally fraught roles that played on her legacy. 369 00:22:56,600 --> 00:23:02,119 Eleanor is a wronged woman set aside by Henry for a succession of lovers. 370 00:23:02,120 --> 00:23:05,439 Hepburn's clipped mid-Atlantic accent, 371 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,519 adds a delicious self-awareness to the Queen. 372 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,119 "I am not one of the ones who gives a damn", 373 00:23:11,120 --> 00:23:14,959 she sneers, a line straight of her forties' heyday. 374 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:18,279 Katharine Hepburn, by the late 1960s, 375 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:22,719 had this already remarkable legacy from her screwball days 376 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:26,439 in the great comedies opposite Cary Grant, Bringing Up Baby, et cetera, 377 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:31,559 in the 1930s, and was hugely respected as a political, 378 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:37,559 intelligent, sort of self-contained, and independent woman of that era, 379 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:43,399 when many of those women from her kind of contemporary star stable, 380 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,559 were a little bit more made out to be glamour girls. 381 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,279 And she, whilst very glamorous in her youth, 382 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,639 had a certain kind of strength of character that really shone through, 383 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:56,439 and I think she had great respect from all different walks of life. 384 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:58,319 Certainly Peter O'Toole 385 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,479 and all the rest of the casting crew on the set of The Lion in Winter, 386 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:05,159 to hear tell of it, were pretty much in awe of her. 387 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:08,079 There is no doubt that the casting of Katharine Hepburn 388 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,919 is absolutely crucial as Eleanor of Aquitaine. 389 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:16,919 She brings with her, her own sense of being Hollywood royalty. 390 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:21,639 She is a veteran now, she is a survivor, 391 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:25,559 she has survived a- Hepburn herself of course, survived, you know, 392 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:30,759 the rises and falls and rise again of a career in Hollywood, 393 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:36,599 much like Eleanor herself, who sort of rose, fell, rose again finally. 394 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:38,919 So they're both survivors. 395 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,479 But what I think is really important is that she can- 396 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,079 she's got the right kind of spirit. 397 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:49,519 She has that indomitable female spirit that is half masculine, 398 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:51,919 but she's still a woman. 399 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:55,519 So she can, you know, she can argue against Henry with the best- 400 00:24:55,520 --> 00:25:01,519 She's Henry's equal in terms of just intelligence, and wit. 401 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:06,159 And that's what makes the battle between them so interesting. 402 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:12,160 It also allows her to show at some stage, her own vulnerability 403 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:17,159 and Hepburn was vulnerable at the time of the casting, 404 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:20,559 because she hadn't long lost the love of her life, Spencer Tracy, 405 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:25,279 and it was Peter O'Toole who had to persuade her to take this role. 406 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:28,079 Where is Henry? Upstairs with the family at home. 407 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:31,599 That's a mean and tawdry way to talk about your fiancee. 408 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:32,719 My fiancee. 409 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:36,119 Whosever fiancee, I brought her up and she is dear to me and gentle. 410 00:25:36,120 --> 00:25:39,239 He still plans to make John king. Of course he does. 411 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,639 My, what a greedy little trinity you are. 412 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:43,359 King, king, king. 413 00:25:43,360 --> 00:25:45,679 Two of you must learn to live with disappointment. 414 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:47,119 Ah, but which two? 415 00:25:47,120 --> 00:25:49,359 Next to nigh them all and live forever. 416 00:25:49,360 --> 00:25:52,399 Tusk to tusk through all eternity. 417 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,959 In only his second film, Anthony Hopkins demonstrates 418 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:59,039 the intensity that has marked out his career. 419 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:02,039 As the story has it, constant soldier Richard, 420 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:06,199 is a guarded homosexual, desperate for his father's attention. 421 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,359 John Castle gives the most intriguing performance 422 00:26:09,360 --> 00:26:11,119 as discounted Geoffrey, 423 00:26:11,120 --> 00:26:15,239 a young man made of wheels and gears as his father puts it. 424 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:19,799 Nigel Terry's guileless John is clearly the wrong choice. 425 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:23,359 A whingeing brat, desperate for his inheritance. 426 00:26:23,360 --> 00:26:26,879 Richard, played by Anthony Hopkins, is obviously the warrior, and he's 427 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:32,039 obviously the man who loves going to war and fighting in battles. 428 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:35,759 You see him at the beginning having a duel with somebody, 429 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:37,959 and he's about to sort of kill him, 430 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,799 and it's not actually supposed to be a lethal battle, 431 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:44,119 but you see his face and you realise that he could be psychotic. 432 00:26:44,120 --> 00:26:48,599 I mean his face is sort of like frenzied with bloodlust, 433 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:50,999 and you think, whoops, he's a guy you want to keep an eye on. 434 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:55,239 Geoffrey, the second one, John Castle, is the most mysterious, 435 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:59,439 because he's the one that you can't read, he's obviously clever, 436 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:04,439 he's obviously sort of slightly sidelined by the other two, 437 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:08,719 being the middle brother, but you can tell just through his eyes, 438 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:10,919 that he's constantly scheming, 439 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:14,959 that he will, you know, he will scheme and plot 440 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,479 and it doesn't matter who with, as long as it will be to his advantage. 441 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:19,960 He's a total strategist. 442 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:25,239 John, played by Nigel Terry, is a bit oafish, 443 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,799 probably a little too oafish. 444 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:33,560 But the three of them naturally form this kind of little cabal. 445 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,479 Weirdly enough, that sets up a tension, 446 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,599 not just between the three of them, 447 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,799 but also between them and their parents. 448 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:46,039 And I think that's real smart work. I think that's very, very clever. 449 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:49,119 A nation is a human thing, it does what we do for our reasons. 450 00:27:49,120 --> 00:27:51,559 Surely if we're civilised, we can put away the knives, 451 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:52,680 we can make peace? 452 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,199 We have it in our hands. 453 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,159 I have tutors of my own. 454 00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,399 - Will that be all? - Oh, think. 455 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:00,799 You came here for a reason. 456 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:02,719 Don't you want to ask me if I've got an offer? 457 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,079 Have you got an offer? Not yet, but I'll think of one. 458 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:06,080 Oh, by the way, 459 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,200 you're better at this than I thought you would be. 460 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:13,840 I wasn't sure you'd noticed. 461 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:19,279 Timothy Dalton is such a revelation and a surprise in this film. 462 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,839 When he turns up, he's the new king of France, his father has passed, 463 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:26,599 he's young, he looks young, he's this very pretty, 464 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,519 almost teenage looking young man, 465 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:33,439 and he keeps being called boy and lad, and given advice 466 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:38,319 by the much older King Henry and this infuriates him to no end. 467 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:43,759 So it's a, you know, there's no love lost here between these two rulers, 468 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:47,519 and Henry, because he has such large holdings of land 469 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:52,319 across all of France, has far more power than young King Philip. 470 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,879 So Philip is keen to get the upper hand wherever he can. 471 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:59,879 This is a study of the mind games played between all the characters. 472 00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:03,439 And the acting is boldly dramatic, to match the occasion, 473 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,239 often to the point of hysteria. 474 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,719 The voluble chemistry between the leads was helped by the fact 475 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,599 that O'Toole and Hepburn, were close friends. 476 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,359 They are clearly thrilling 477 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,439 to the dance of this love-hate relationship. 478 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,039 Now we should, before we get into the actors themselves, 479 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:21,839 we should talk about acting. 480 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,479 Because I imagine modern audiences might look at it 481 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,359 and think this is over the top, this is too much, everybody is 482 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:31,719 shouting, everyone is collapsing in a heap, there's a lot of hysteria. 483 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:35,359 But to my mind, it's a particular skill, this kind of theatricality, 484 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:39,440 this kind of power that it has, and the actors really go for it. 485 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:44,959 Yes, and I think partly perhaps because of the scenery, 486 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:49,879 it's shot on location in, well a castle-style abbey in France, 487 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:54,039 and then they reconstruct that in the studio as well. 488 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:59,919 The backdrop is vast and stone, so in a way, the backdrop absorbs 489 00:29:59,920 --> 00:30:03,719 some of the excessive drama of the actors, and you don't 490 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:08,279 feel quite as much as if you're watching an over-the-top episode 491 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,919 of a TV programme where people are blasting away over-loudly. 492 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,639 You know, they are bearded and they are shouting "Boy!" 493 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,399 But it doesn't- it just manages to stay 494 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:21,079 within what I think is a fully acceptable modern film. 495 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,239 They, partly because they, 496 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:28,479 they slide very quickly into very close, very small, 497 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:32,679 very despairing emotions, loving emotions, moments of silence. 498 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:36,399 So it's not as if the whole thing is performed at the bluster 499 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:40,799 and, you know, corny sort of take on what a medieval epic would be, 500 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,279 they are able to move into these very tight, 501 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:46,919 very intimate performances, almost on the turn of a heel. 502 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:51,719 Filmed in Ireland, Wales, and at the Abbaye de Montmajou in France, 503 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,119 the look is wonderfully evocative. 504 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:57,359 The use of natural light and shadows, 505 00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:02,319 the flickering candles, and how the walls bear down upon the characters. 506 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:06,479 It may be the most claustrophobic epic ever made. 507 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,919 The director escapes the script's theatrical roots, 508 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,039 via astonishing close-ups. 509 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:16,680 Eyes are a central motif, gateways to troubled souls. 510 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,119 The studios were in Ardmore in Ireland, 511 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:25,679 but the film locations were in Wales, and France, 512 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:29,399 and especially Carcassonne, so anywhere that there was sort of mid- 513 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,799 still had sort of medieval looking places and walls, 514 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:34,279 so he went around a bit. 515 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,919 I think that's probably what gives it its great, its great 516 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:42,879 sense of atmosphere and history, without sort of overdoing it. 517 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:44,599 They didn't have to build too many sets, 518 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,599 all the interiors are done, but that's fine, they're all 519 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:51,319 sort of stone corridors and walls and steps and things like that. 520 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,919 But the exteriors are the real thing. 521 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:58,519 So I think the whole design of the film and the way that it was 522 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:02,879 sort of, they, the actors use those sets, is very important. 523 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:06,959 It all adds to the idea that you are in a different world, 524 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:08,639 you're in a different era. 525 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,479 There is nothing fake about it. 526 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,919 I mean you know, the fact that you've got live animals 527 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:16,359 running around all over the place. 528 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,479 When King Henry sort of walks into the market place, 529 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,479 he kicks a couple of chickens out of the way. 530 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,639 And there's even in the corner, there is a bear, a real bear, 531 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:24,759 who is being fed. 532 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,679 It's obviously one of the bear-baiting you know, bears, 533 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:29,359 but he seems to be perfectly happy. 534 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:32,079 And you think God, this is a tiny little detail, I mean you can hardly 535 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,719 see it, but it's there, and I think that that's what's important. 536 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:39,479 It gives the idea that this is, this is life as it really was. 537 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:43,279 Costumes by Margaret Furse deserve special mention. 538 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,679 The characters are robed in their personalities. 539 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:52,079 Eleanor in regal colours, but confining her like a nun's habit. 540 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:57,560 Henry in a drab peasant tunic, as if rejecting his very station as king. 541 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:02,959 Richard with hints of armour, Geoffrey in featureless robes, 542 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,879 and John an unkempt street urchin. 543 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:09,039 And Philip as dapper as a peacock. 544 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:12,279 Meanwhile, John Barry's glorious fanfares 545 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:15,359 remind us that this is royalty at war. 546 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:18,399 The costuming of The Lion in Winter, is really important, 547 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,439 not only in the fact of Peter O'Toole's costuming being rather 548 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:25,759 understated, or the John character, the youngest son, looking you know, 549 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:30,279 kind of scruffy and like a peasant, and Anthony Hopkins with typical, 550 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:34,919 the typical wit, of the screenplay, calling him a walking pustule. 551 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:38,079 There is a real kind of earthiness to a lot of it, 552 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:39,639 but then on the flip side, 553 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,879 you get the way that Furse dresses Katharine Hepburn. 554 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:48,599 And Eleanor of Aquitaine, in spite of her kind of imprisonment, 555 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,919 is somebody who commands great dignity, 556 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:53,839 and you see that in her sweeping clothes. 557 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:57,279 There's a beautiful red dress that she wears, 558 00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:01,839 and all this jewellery that she kind of almost plays dress up with 559 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:06,519 because she's confined and bored and left to her own devices, and lonely, 560 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:10,359 and sort of thinking about the past and what she's achieved within it. 561 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,079 And she's looking at her crown, 562 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,479 she's looking at all of her grand jewels, 563 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,959 and so the role of costuming and jewellery 564 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:19,719 to the Eleanor of Aquitaine character, 565 00:34:19,720 --> 00:34:22,799 I think, is particularly important because she's still so queenly, 566 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:26,759 in spite of her being in this marginalised position. 567 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,880 Ah. There you are. 568 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:35,320 My comfort, and my company. 569 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,640 We're locked in for another year. 570 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,080 Four seasons more. 571 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:51,000 What a desolation. 572 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,080 What a life's work. 573 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,239 There is something of Edgar Allan Poe's House of Usher 574 00:35:37,240 --> 00:35:40,319 in The Lion in Winter's warped family dynamics. 575 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:44,919 It is the story of the ruin parents can bring upon their children. 576 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:48,959 It is about language, power, and manipulation, 577 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,159 and finally, about the turmoil of love. 578 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:56,079 The film is seeking to grasp what this raging couple actually 579 00:35:56,080 --> 00:36:01,159 mean to one another, ending on the delightfully light-hearted note. 580 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:04,879 "You will let me out for Easter," urges Eleanor, 581 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:08,040 as if all this was simply a family tradition. 582 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:13,959 Now one thing theatre can't do that movies can, is the close-up. 583 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,319 And you've mentioned how good the close-ups were, 584 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,559 but what do they give this film, the idea of studying faces? 585 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,799 Well there's a lot of silence in this film. 586 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:27,319 Even though it's people speak loudly and powerfully, 587 00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:30,039 there's an awful lot of silence, and this is one of the things 588 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,759 I'm sure we'll come onto the score, one of the things about the score 589 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,759 is it's absent, critically, for very, very long periods of time. 590 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:37,799 There will be periods of time where all you have 591 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:41,759 is a close-up on a face, reacting to what they're observing, 592 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,159 or to what they are understanding to be true. 593 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:48,359 There's quite a lot of people understanding something and weeping, 594 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,839 but not because they're obviously royal family, 595 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,839 not bursting into tears, there's just the tears pouring from their 596 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:57,439 eyes as yet another of their great dreams and hopes has been dashed. 597 00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:01,079 And these are, these are moments where the camera just stays 598 00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,519 painfully long on faces. 599 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:05,759 They rehearsed a long time. 600 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:09,799 So he would get the cast to go through the scene, 601 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:10,999 go through the scene, 602 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,839 and then he would plot out where the camera would be, to make sure 603 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:17,119 that he would get the faces, and hold them for as long as possible. 604 00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:20,919 There is one 11-minute sequence where the camera only cuts twice, 605 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,519 and the final cut is at the end when he, 606 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:25,919 when the camera leads them downstairs. 607 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,679 But most of the time, there can be quite, can be long, 608 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,999 single shots, and you don't even notice they're long, single shots, 609 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:33,919 because the passion and the drama on screen, 610 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,000 you don't need to cut away from it. 611 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:38,919 Following the events of the film, 612 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:42,759 Henry had to deal with yet another revolt, which he lost, and so he 613 00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:46,999 basically retired to a castle, and spent his last days there. 614 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:48,919 He died about two years later. 615 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:54,319 Eleanor actually was freed from her incarceration. 616 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,039 Eleanor of Aquitaine got her wish. 617 00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,479 Her son Richard, ascended to the throne 618 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:00,799 and became known as Richard the Lionheart. 619 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:04,719 However, he left on the Crusades, and did not return, 620 00:38:04,720 --> 00:38:08,199 so his youngest brother, John, 621 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:11,439 who in the film is very much the idiot son, 622 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:13,959 then becomes King John, 623 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,839 and he is actually the famous King John of Robin Hood. 624 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:21,199 So we see the, the line go forward, 625 00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,559 and it's very interesting to me that Eleanor of Aquitaine, 626 00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:29,159 not only outlives her husband, 627 00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,119 but then outlives her imprisonment. 628 00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:32,439 She is freed upon his death 629 00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:35,799 and gets to return to the corridors of power in many ways. 630 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:39,479 So it does feel, as great as Peter O'Toole is in the film, 631 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:43,239 that history shows that he was bested in some ways, by Eleanor. 632 00:38:43,240 --> 00:38:46,399 The Lion in Winter would be a great success both critically 633 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:47,879 and at the Box Office. 634 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:51,479 It would be nominated for seven Oscars, including Best Film, 635 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:52,999 and Best Director. 636 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:57,039 Goldman would rightly win for Best Adapted Screenplay, 637 00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:01,679 and Hepburn would receive her third Oscar for Best Actress. 638 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,359 Eleanor is one of the great achievements 639 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,239 of an extraordinary career, 640 00:39:06,240 --> 00:39:09,919 standing out in a film that is all performance. 641 00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,559 How do we now look back on The Lion in Winter? 642 00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:14,119 Why has it lasted so long? 643 00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:15,959 I think it's lasted so long 644 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:19,839 partly because its quality was so impressive, 645 00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,239 that Hollywood has never forgotten it. 646 00:39:22,240 --> 00:39:24,839 So you will find, for instance in the West Wing, 647 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:29,879 they are constantly referencing that Bartlett, 648 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:31,999 that's his favourite film, and he, 649 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,759 they just, you know, there are these teaser lines about 650 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,679 The Lion in Winter as being the best way to understand the presidency. 651 00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,799 Succession really, is of course essentially The Lion in Winter, 652 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,479 but without the level of cunning and manipulation, you know, 653 00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:44,879 the kids are not as clever. 654 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:46,999 They're wimpy compared - to Lion in Winter. - Yeah. 655 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:48,439 There are so many of those films. 656 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,719 I mean Game of Thrones is essentially this film just 657 00:39:50,720 --> 00:39:52,479 played out over a long period of time. 658 00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,279 They have been constantly going back to and referring to this idea, 659 00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,839 and what happens if you take this struggle for power 660 00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,439 and you play it out in a contemporary era. 661 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,639 So it's changed- it changes our understanding 662 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,439 of what it is to be powerful. 663 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,639 It takes the medieval concept of power, 664 00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:10,559 and it makes it completely accessible. 665 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:11,999 But it still holds back 666 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:15,279 because we are talking about absolute power of life and death. 667 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,919 And so every time someone sets out on another project to discuss 668 00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:22,239 the power of life and death, they will back-reference Lion in Winter, 669 00:40:22,240 --> 00:40:26,159 and you'll see it in almost any film in which there is someone who is 670 00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:29,879 with, unless it's a pastiche or it's poorly written, someone desperately 671 00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:33,639 trying to engage with the concept of how you would struggle for power. 672 00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:37,759 There's The Lion in Winter somewhere, it's an eternal film. 673 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:42,119 It's a gangster movie, it's a, it's a space epic, it's just, 674 00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:45,639 it's the story that Hollywood constantly back-references. 675 00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:50,799 But also I think you could almost say that it's the first film 676 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:55,919 that makes us as a viewing public, think our royal family, 677 00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:59,239 they are like us, they are human beings too. 678 00:40:59,240 --> 00:41:02,119 It comes at that point in the sixties where there's 679 00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:05,079 a beginning of a breakdown of a certain kind of deference, 680 00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:08,719 and that's when we start to think about our rulers as the British 681 00:41:08,720 --> 00:41:12,199 and the Americans start to think about our rulers and say well maybe 682 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:15,119 they're not born to rule, maybe they're not destined to be elected. 683 00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,159 Maybe all these people are just like us. 684 00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:20,439 So it's part of a social change as well as a filmic change. 685 00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:25,519 And so therefore it echoes on and on and on and on, just that one movie. 686 00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:29,199 The thing, the ripples it sets up, are still going. 687 00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,439 The legacy of The Lion in Winter, 688 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:35,679 is that all subsequent historical films, 689 00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:40,079 could not get away with sloppy historical detail. 690 00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,559 They needed to be slightly more forensic, 691 00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,399 they needed to be slightly more authoritative. 692 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:51,400 Also, they, it showed that you could put two older stars together 693 00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,319 and make it Box Office. 694 00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:58,799 In fact, this went on to say Richard Leicester's Robin and Marian, 695 00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:02,039 where you had an ageing Sean Connery and Audrey Hepburn, 696 00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:03,559 and they were wonderful, 697 00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:06,199 also written as it happens, by James Goldman. 698 00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:11,999 So this gave, it sort of opened up the idea of films, 699 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:16,319 historical films that were A, not boring, B, very witty, 700 00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:22,320 and incisive, C, funny, and yet still authentic. 701 00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:27,959 So the legacy of The Lion in Winter was, was kind of huge immediately, 702 00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,519 it was a great success internationally, it was nominated 703 00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:35,399 for all of these Oscars, and rightly celebrated for its performances. 704 00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:39,759 It is a film that I think maybe younger viewers might hesitate to 705 00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:43,479 come to because if you look it up and you see that it's about 706 00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:48,479 the political complications of choosing a king in 12th century 707 00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:53,079 England and France, that seems intimidating, or maybe a bit stodgy. 708 00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:57,959 But if you watch Jesse Armstrong's TV show Succession, 709 00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:02,959 and you like the talkie, complicated, nasty, funny characters 710 00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:06,639 of that show, then you should look no further than The Lion in Winter 711 00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:08,639 as one of its huge influences. 712 00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:12,719 There's a beauty, isn't there, because finally it's about a man 713 00:43:12,720 --> 00:43:15,919 who realises he can't, whatever the power play may be, 714 00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:20,079 he can't kill his son, he can't destroy- he loves his family. 715 00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,879 Although he's driving him mad, he loves them. 716 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:26,319 And also, he realises it's his fault, that's the thing, 717 00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:30,959 is that he, at the end, he realises what he's done. 718 00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:33,799 It's not quite that he ever says anything as obvious as, "Oh my God, 719 00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:35,679 what have I done, what has my life become, 720 00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:37,119 what have I done with my life?" 721 00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:43,080 But we have this story constantly told that the person in a position, 722 00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:46,799 who looks back on what they've done with their life, and they realise 723 00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,439 that they've just done everything wrong. 724 00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,679 It's Arthur Miller, you know, it's so many writers 725 00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:55,799 trying to explore the idea that at that moment in your life 726 00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:59,959 where you look back and you realise you have broken everything good. 727 00:43:59,960 --> 00:44:02,919 And that's, that's a story that we never tire of. 728 00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:06,919 Television drama Succession has nothing on The Lion in Winter. 729 00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:10,199 What is so powerful, is the unshakeable humanity 730 00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:14,160 that runs through it, and how wholly entertaining it remains. 731 00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:18,279 This glorious film invites us 732 00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:22,359 into a visceral and witty psychological battleground that 733 00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:25,079 few other films have even dared. 734 00:44:30,240 --> 00:44:32,639 You'll let me out for Easter? 735 00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:36,359 Come the Resurrection, you can strike me down again. 736 00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:38,359 Perhaps next time I'll do it. 737 00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:39,760 And perhaps you won't. 738 00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:47,360 Subtitles by Sky Access Services www.skyaccessibility.sky 66544

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