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Carmel Beach near Mterrey in California.
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As the autumn day draws to its close and
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the surfers seek one final wave, a tall
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lean figure takes his regular evening
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run along the shore. He remains
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unnoticed. Although he is in fact the
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most popular movie star in the world.
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[Music]
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I tell you my
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dreams and while you're listening to
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me I suddenly see
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them come
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true. I can see us on an April
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night looking out across the
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road having supper in the candle
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light.
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Walking on and on.
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How I pass the
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day. How the
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night. Then I'll try to find the words
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to
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say all the things you mean to me.
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Oh, there various orphans that have been
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brought to us throughout the year. This
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one we think was deserted because he's
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very small for his age. He's already
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getting h getting horns coming
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through. Well, they eat grain and they
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eat milk out of they they were eating
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out of a bottle for a while. Now they
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just drink milk out of a
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bowl. And of course this guy, he likes
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to get in the middle of every shot. Fred
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Basset. Sydney is his name. You want
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some hay? Home for Clint Eastwood is a
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remote and rocky peninsula overlooking
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the Pacific. Inhabited by his daughter
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Allison, age three, his 8-year-old son
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Kyle, and the lady he married 25 years
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ago, Maggie. He closely guards the
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privacy of his family and he doesn't
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much like his house to be filmed.
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There's an everinccreasing danger of
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burglary and even kidnapping. For
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Eastwood is a very rich man. It's
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estimated he can now earn up to $10
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million from every film he chooses to
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make. He's invested his money in large
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slabs of California. And in the nearby
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town of Carmel, he's often to be found
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at the restaurant he owns. It's called
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the Hogs Breath Inn. You know, it looks
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kind of like a British pub to me. And it
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I used to love the names they put on
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pubs over there. I thought it was had
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terrific atmosphere. So, I just figured
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we'd get a name that was a little more
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outrageous than some of the names they
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use. The menu reminds his customers of
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some of their hosts better known films
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like Dirty Harry and Fistful of Dollars.
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That was all uh by a former partner. He
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uh was sort of a PR oriented type guy
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and he he he thought up all these
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things. a dirty hairy dinner or
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something like that. I was a little bit
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reticent about, but nobody seems to
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object it to it.
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But in addition to wealth and fame, he
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has of late accumulated another
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commodity, controversy.
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Pauline Kale of The New Yorker is one of
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America's leading film critics. Now it
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is it almost seems like the hero as a
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psychopathic personality because his
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affectlessness as uh when he
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kills begins to seem like an expression
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of a new
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nealism and I I find it very
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displeasing. He's very unlike the John
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Wayne character who stood for the right
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who was a man of principle. Clint
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Eastwood seems almost now a machine for
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killing.
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I talked to Eastwood in his back garden
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and before we got on to Miss Kale's
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criticisms, he told me a bit about his
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early days. Uh I was raised during a
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depression era in this country and it
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was
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uh I never saw my father with a specific
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uh profession and so I never really I
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never really was raised with an idea of
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you you grow up thinking well you want
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to be a physician or you want to be
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anything a drugist whatever you uh and
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and follow through with it. I just kind
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of became interested in
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this at a certain time when when the
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chips all fell that way. I once did a a
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play as part of an English project, a
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one-act play when I was in junior high
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school. I hated it at the time. I mean,
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I enjoyed I enjoyed doing it. We were
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kind of a hit, but uh I was such a
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nervous wreck. I was I was ready to cut
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school. I didn't uh I just didn't figure
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that was my bag.
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the the part of the lead in the play was
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an introverted kid and I was an
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introverted kid so my teacher picked me
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for the job figuring that I'd just act
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myself. Well, uh, we got through it, but
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I I made up my mind then I'd never get
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involved with anything to do with acting
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again. United States government solved
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his career problems. He was drafted into
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the army, but unlike most conscripts
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then, he didn't get sent to Korea. I was
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lucky. Uh I think about 99% of the
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company I was with did. But I I had been
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into swimming as a kid. My father was a
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very good swimmer and I was a good
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swimmer and swam in school. And he uh
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when I got into service, I just happened
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to hear a rumor that they needed
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somebody down at the pool area to teach
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swimming. So I I ran down there and did
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a bit of a selling job on this captain
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in command and
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uh they uh I told them I was much better
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than I was of course and much which
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later becomes the actor's limit because
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the actors are always doing that that
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later on you're always saying can you
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ride? Yes. Can you ride motorcycles?
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Yes. Can you drive off cliffs? Yeah. You
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say anything because you want the part.
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So but this was much like that. I went
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down there and I just I like the area. I
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figured I'd like to stay in that kind of
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work. So I got a job teaching swimming
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for 2 years. But then I mean to make the
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decision to go for an audition at
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Universal, you must have wanted to be an
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actor. When did that occur? What was it?
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The fact you knew David Jansen and
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people in the army that Yeah, I knew uh
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those guys.
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Uh I I tell you, they all seemed to
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enjoy themselves. It seemed like a it
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seemed like a long shot type of thing,
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and I was always kind of for that. Were
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people telling you you're a good-looking
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fellow, you should be an actor?
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What were people telling you you're you
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look like an actor, therefore you should
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be one? Uh, I don't think they were
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telling me that. I don't know what they
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were. Uh, I don't know. I don't recall
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anybody telling me that. They might have
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on the way, but I'm sure they told that
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to tell that to anybody. Maybe they
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captain the football team or something
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like that. But Universal accepted him
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and the revenge of the creature provided
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him with his first big break. I just had
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a stupid scene. I had to come in as a
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lab assistant. I played a lot of lab
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assistants in those days. And I came in
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and uh flipped a I couldn't find some
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white mice that were missing in the lab.
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So all of a sudden uh the guy says,
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"Well, did you look everywhere?" And I
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reached a pocket and oops, there it is.
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There's the white m. It was pretty dumb
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stuff, but I guess they were short on
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time and just wanted to pad the script.
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Would you come here a minute? Didn't you
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say that among the lower animals there
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were no natural enemies? As long as
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they're wellfed. Yeah, something like
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that. Well, maybe so, doc, but there
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were four rats in there when I changed
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my lights. Now there's only three. It's
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my considered opinion that rat number
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four is sitting inside that cat. Are you
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sure you fed them all this morning?
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Sure. I always feed them. I
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[Applause]
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How'd you get in here? Well, the other
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another biggie that I was in was the
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second film I did was a film called
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Tarantula.
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And that I played the part of the jet
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pilot who came in and bombed this giant
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tarantula at the end. And I uh was
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enthusiastic when I I read the part
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because I was enthusiastic about doing
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anything uh that
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would increase my
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experience. But I had goggles on and a
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mask on here and a helmet on. So it
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could have uh it could have been just
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somebody sitting there and somebody just
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dubbed in the words. Dropping nom
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following order.
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Here it
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goes. And you always hope for a small
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part in those things. I I guess in the
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time I was there two years that I did
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about 14 or 13 bits of anything from
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walking on to saying one line to to uh
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to saying three or four lines. I'll
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never forget I was a lab assistant once
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with Rock Hudson and I had a fourline
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part where he comes in and ask me some
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question and I'm working in a in an
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X-ray lab and he's the physician and
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they told me they wanted me to wear
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glasses. Well, I'd never worn glasses
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before, and I was disappointed because I
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didn't I didn't think that uh that I
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look particularly good in them. But the
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director wanted me to wear them because
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I was a youthful kid, and he figured it
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would give me a little more of an
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intellectual look or physician's
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assistant look, if there is such a
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thing. So, I scouted around. I found I
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tried on about 10 pairs of glasses.
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Finally found a pair that really looked
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pretty good. I sat there looking at
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myself in the mirror. Finally, I got
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used to it. I thought, "Hey, this isn't
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bad at all. this may be a whole
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different different whole whole
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different approach. So I went on the set
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with these glasses. Everything was fine.
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I got on the scene. Rock Hudson walks
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in. He starts to say his line. He looks
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at me and he turned to the director and
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he says, "Where are my
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glasses?" And the director said, "Well,
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you're the leading man. You don't need
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glasses. You don't wear them. So what?"
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Oh, well, I think I got to wear. So he
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went through all the 10 pairs of glasses
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that I had tried on, didn't find. And
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they took mine off. Fit him perfect.
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Okay. Boom. He wore them. I didn't. Now
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these look pretty good, Harry.
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What is it? Will telephone. Dr. Parker.
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All right. Should study these when
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they're dry. Harry, I'll call you
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tomorrow from Chicago to see if they
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answer our question. Good luck with your
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speech, sir. Oh, thank you, Will. I'll
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need it. As a public speaker, I should
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stick to orthopedic research.
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In those days, they used to have a guy
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who looked like all their current guys,
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and I didn't look like anybody who was
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was a current contract star, to use that
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word. Uh,
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so they they finally dumped me, figuring
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uh I wasn't headed anywhere. Get him
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up. Move them out. But in January 1959,
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he was headed somewhere to Sadelia with
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20,000 head of cattle as rowdy Yates in
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the CBS series Rawhide. Here, you can
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have this wish mush. What was the matter
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with it? Nothing. I didn't taste it.
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Well, next time you don't want food,
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don't draw any. I ain't cooking for
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waste. Get off me, wishbone. I don't I
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don't want to argue with you this
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morning. No. Well, what's the matter?
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Don't you feel good?
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Matter of fact, my head feels like
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someone's chopping wood on top of it.
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Somebody con the head? Well, the pain is
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more or less milling around inside. I
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didn't sleep at all last night, you
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know. Well, why didn't you say so in the
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first place? Wait a second now. Nothing
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in the bottle is going to fix me. Come
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on, swallow it.
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A lot of people as soon as they get to
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be in a series that's a success, they
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can't wait to get out of it and they
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think they're going to go on to bigger
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and better things. And maybe that might
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be the case. But, uh, for me, I wanted
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to just learn as much as I could about
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film. And after seven and a half or
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eight years, you do a couple hundred
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hours of show, you can pick up a lot on
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it. It's nothing, Mr. B. I'm a little
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busy. Yeah, sure. I must have got too
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much done. Easy, boy. I'll get I'll get
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back to my turn. No, you won't. Get on
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back to the supply wagon. Mr. Fish, you
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heard me. I was doing raw hide and I was
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coming to a hiatus. Took a took three
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months off usually around February,
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March, and April every year. and they uh
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my agent in Los Angeles called me up in
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the William Morris office and asked me
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if I would like to go to Europe and
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uh make an Italian German Spanish
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co-production of a remake of a Japanese
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film in the plains of Spain and I I said
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not particularly and Sergio Leone the
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director of A Fistful of Dollars hadn't
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particularly wanted Clint Eastwood not
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to begin with at any rate he wanted
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another
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actor Kuru I really wanted James Cobin,
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but he was too
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expensive. The Italian cinema is very
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poor. We got Clint for
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$15,000. Cobin wanted
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25,000. I didn't see any character in
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raw hides, only a physical
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figure. What struck me most about Clint
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was his indolent way of moving.
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It seemed to me closely resembled a cat.
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The heart,
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Ramon. Don't forget the heart.
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Aim for the heart or you'll never stop
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me.
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The script was in English. Um, very
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strange English because it had been
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written by an Italian uh group of people
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who didn't
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speak English that well or especially
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English with what you'd call the western
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kind of slang. It was like an Italian
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concept of what a western slang would
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be. So it a lot of the dialogue was a
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little bit on the shaky side. So I I
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liked it though and I felt that maybe a
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European approach would give the western
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a new flavor something because I thought
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it had been in a very stagnant period at
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that point. The part wasn't as spare as
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that in the script. But uh to me the
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more the character would get into
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expository scenes and start explaining
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things the more it would dissipate the
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mystery of the character or the strength
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of the character. So, we cut it down
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very lean. Uh, and and Sergio Leone
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agreed that we'd try to make this guy a
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little bit unique. You're not quite sure
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who he is. You're not even quite sure
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he's the hero until 3/4 or halfway
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through the film.
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The greatest script writer of Westerns
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was Homer. The archetypes of yesterday's
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cowboys were Achilles, Ajax, Agamemnon,
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and Hector.
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My idea was to bring back the Italian
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comedia deli.
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But more than the comedia delatte or
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indeed Homer, Sergio Leone owed a
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greater debt to the Japanese director
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Akira Kurasawa. Leone bought the rights
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to his film Yojimbo and based a fistful
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of dollars on it. He deliberately wanted
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James Cobin to play the Tashiro Mafuni
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part. Cobin had already been in The
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Magnificent 7, which was a western
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remake of Curasawa's Seven Samurai.
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Leon's first spaghetti western was
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extremely faithful to Yojimbo. The
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technique of following the protagonist's
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back with the camera, the atmospheric
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long shots, the music, the deliberately
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slow pace interrupted with fast bursts
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of action.
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Even the central character came from the
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Japanese film for in Yojimbo Tiro Mafuni
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originated the stranger with no name. My
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sonro, my wife Arin, my four strongest
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men, Motara, Yahachi, Matsukichi, and
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Suko.
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Oh, by the way, what's your name?
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And quite apart from the characters and
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techniques, the similarities between
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Yojimbo and A fistful of dollars were
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remarkably close.
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[Music]
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Get three coffins ready. Huh?
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[Music]
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Listen, stranger. Didn't you get the
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idea? We don't like to see bad boys like
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you in town. Go get your
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mule. You let him get away from you.
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See, my mule don't like people
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laughing. It's the crazy idea you're
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laughing at him.
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[Music]
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[Music]
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Cooper, two coffins. No, maybe three.
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My mistake, work often.
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They were definitely they definitely had
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the satiric
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undertone because uh I mean that was
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just in the script. That's the way it
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was. That's the way Yujimbo was the way
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the original Japanese film was. So when
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you say satiric, what is the satire on?
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Well, it's it's probably a little bit of
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the satire of the west of the hero
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itself. the fact that he is only out for
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his own
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gain. Hence the title for a fist full of
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he doesn't seem to be interested in
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anything else except his own monetary
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gain. Rubio, get the man.
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You are well informed.
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Man's life in these parts often depends
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on a mere scrap of information. Your
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brother's own words. Tell me, why are
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you doing these for us?
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$500.
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The typical western done for many years
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was a hero rides into town, sees school
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marm on the porch of uh of
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of the school, sees man beating horse.
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Um the he interferes, hits man who's
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beating horse and school marm looks and
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you know darn well what's going to
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happen at the end. you know, two people
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are going to get together and it isn't
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the guy and and the horse, you know. So,
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that's kind of your your typical western
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story. This one man rides in on on a 35
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year old horse, very shabby looking. He
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sees man kicking kid
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uh sees woman obviously in a distraught
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position at the house, obviously a
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prisoner of sorts, and he turns and
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rides off. I mean, it isn't this. Later
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on, he helps that woman kid out, but
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right away you say, "Now, wait a minute.
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This has got to be something strange.
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This can't be the hero. He doesn't have
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a white hat and he's not doing the
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normal things." To me, this is what made
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it interesting is you you couldn't
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predict the end of the film. And but in
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some of the some of the positions we
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were getting into for years, you could
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pretty well predict the story. The
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spaghetti westerns were made not in
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Italy but here in Almaria in the south
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of Spain with German money and American
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star, a mixed crew including Spanish
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technicians and at the helm an Italian
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director. Communication was a little
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rough. Uh I knew Riva Dercee and
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Bonjouro and he knew goodbye and hello
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and that was it. We had an interpreter
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the first time then he learned a little
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English and I learned a little Italian
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and between little Spanish and we just
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kind of fudged our way along.
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My films are basically silent
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films. The dialogue just adds some wit.
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Again, working with Leone, I read an
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interview once with Eli Wallik who'd
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come and work with you in one of the
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subsequent films, and he was saying that
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you had to do some hazardous stunts. Oh,
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yeah. I remember they were going to blow
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up a 200 meter bridge, and they had
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something like 1,800 lb of dynamite or
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sigh. They had just tons of dynamite in
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the thing. And
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uh I said to Sergio, I said, "Where are
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we going to be?" They had five cameras
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on. And he says, "Well, you'll be down
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here next to this first camera. You'll
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crawl up here. And then just as you come
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over the top where the camera is, the
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the bridge will blow up behind you." And
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I looked at the bridge and I looked at
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the distance between and I said,
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"Uh, I knew it was close. I thought it
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was very close, too close." But I said,
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rather than say, 'N no, I don't want to
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do that. I said, Sergio, where are you
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going to be? And he said, uh, oh. He
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says, 'Well, I'll be right here, right
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behind this camera waiting for you,
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right? Were you? I said, fine. If you'll
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be there, I said, then I'll do it. He
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kind of did a long look at me. And all
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of a sudden, I took a walk back and I
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saw two guys coming up in in Wallock's
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wardrobe and my wardrobe. And I said,
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"Oh, you're going to use doubles. Why?
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Why is that?" Well, Sergio has decided
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he wants to be up on the hill so we can
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get a better look. So, anyway, that's
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kind of the way it was. And sure enough,
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when the bridge did blow up, it sent uh
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which it it blew up prematurely, too,
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which is another another story. It's the
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old anytime you're ready CB joke. But,
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uh anyway, when they finally blew the
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bridge up, rocks, stones were coming out
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of the bridge, came up right almost
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almost killed the assistant cameraman
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right uh on the on the lower camera
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where we would have been standing.
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[Music]
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My bridges tend to blow up.
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Quite apart from the hazards occasioned
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to the star of the spaghetti westerns,
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many critics were worried about the
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violence he visited on his victims.
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Hello.
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[Music]
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Dillis Powell writes about films for the
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Sunday Times.
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I didn't care for them because I have a
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strong prejudice in favor of the
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American Western and I didn't care for
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this translation of a Native American
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thing to a European country and I found
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their violence was a kind of
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exploitation of violence. But somehow
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through them all he he he really made
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their success in a way this quiet not
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very talkative figure a man with no name
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riding quietly through suffering
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terrible things but I think he was quite
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already a remarkable and perhaps wasn't
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sufficiently recognized. Well I think he
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does express a new mood in movies and
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certainly he expresses a new mood in in
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American
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life. Let let me see if I can put it
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this way. The Bogart hero felt pain.
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When he killed someone, he suffered from
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it. And he was a man of experience. You
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saw the lines of pain on his face. The
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Eastwood
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character does express
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uh well, how can I put it? A new
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emotionlessness about killing that
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people feel is the truth. Now, it used
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to be that that the man who stood for
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high principles
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uh was the man who was also the best
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shot. Now, we no longer believe that in
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order to be a great shot, you need
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principles at all. And Clint Eastwood is
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a totally unprincipled killer. Are you
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ever appalled by violence and films that
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you see? You you question if it doesn't
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suit the situation. I'm appalled by
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violence in films, but if it suits the
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situation, you have to tell the drama.
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the basis of drama is conflict and
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uh and sometimes some films a certain
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amount of violence is justified and some
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films none is justified depends on the
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story completely. I think after we did
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the fist full of dollars and a few
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dollars more and the good Italian
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spaghetti westerns as you were calling
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them they there was a hundred films that
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came out that were twice as violent but
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they didn't do as well. So you can't say
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that that violence is what sells the
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picture. Sure, it isn't. 10 years after
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being dropped by Universal Studios, East
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would return to Hollywood as a star,
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greatly in demand to play either in
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character as a fast shooting soldier in
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Where Eagles Dare or out of character as
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a love struck gold prospector in Paint
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Your Wagon.
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[Music]
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But being a star wasn't enough. He felt
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impotent and powerless as the cost of
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the picture spiraled out of control.
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It wasn't uh it wasn't the most smooth
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running picture I've ever been on. And
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for that reason, I think I started my
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own company and figured I'd try to try
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some other approaches at production
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because you wanted total control of what
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you were doing. Well, I wanted uh
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control. I saw that film in four
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different versions. was the director's
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version, the the the producers version,
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and then the coalition of all the studio
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execs and their version. And all the
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versions, the director's version, the
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first one was actually the best one.
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That wasn't the one that was
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released. So, with a friend who'd been
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an accountant at Universal, Robert Daly,
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he formed his own company, Malpo
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Productions, with their headquarters in
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Warner Brothers Burbank Studios. And for
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the past seven years, Eastwood has owned
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every film he's made. The thing about
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Clint that takes him above other stars
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who are in the same rank as he is is
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that he's never stopped learning this
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business. Now, I know when he was going
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on Raw Height for seven and a half
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years, the tendency after you've been on
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a show for a long time is to sit in your
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dressing room to take it easy to do the
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what is easiest to get a little bit lazy
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because you get bored. But he was always
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on the set, always observing. They had
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different directors in every show
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watching everything that went on
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constantly asking questions for seven
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and a half years. And so he's extremely
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knowledgeable about the business. And
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one of the things I noticed, he'll when
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he and I formed this company together on
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the business aspects, he would ask me a
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question and he'd never ask the question
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again because once he'd heard the
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answer, he never forgot it. He learns
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very quickly. And I would say he's one
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of the top two, three, four directors in
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the business right now. Don't you like
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me?
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You're a very nice girl. But who needs
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nice girls? Eastwood made his debut as a
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director with the story of a disc jockey
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and a psychopathic girl. Play Misty for
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me. And you don't want to complicate
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your life. That's exactly right. Neither
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do I. But that's no reason we shouldn't
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sleep together tonight if we feel like
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it.
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It came as something of a surprise that
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the man who had made his reputation as a
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cold, emotionless killer should choose
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for his first film as director a mystic
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and romantic story. It certainly came as
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a surprise to the studio executives.
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I hate to tell you the problems I had
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even getting the show made or started
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because I had executives at Universal
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ask me why uh why does Clint Eastwood
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would uh who wants to see Clint East
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would play a disc jockey and I said I
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who wants to see him play anything
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[Music]
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but while Misty enjoyed a success in the
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artous vast Commercial audiences that
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followed Eastwood wanted to see him more
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in character, treating women maybe a
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little bit tougher. And in his second
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film as director, High Plains Drifter,
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he reverted to his less passionate self.
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Why don't you watch where you're going?
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Oh, look at this. It's ruined. There's
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no need for all that. All what? If you
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want to get acquainted, why don't you
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just say so?
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acquainted. Well, you'd be amusing if
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you weren't so
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pathetic. Just a minute. I'm not
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finished with you
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yet. You know, at a distance, you'd
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almost pass for a man. That sure
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certainly a disappointment up close,
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aren't you?
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Your feet, ma'am. They're almost as big
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as your mouth.
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You know what you are?
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Just
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trash. A bottle of whiskey for courage
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and the manners of a goat.
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You're the one who could use a lesson in
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manners. Well, not from you, Whiskey
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Breath. Let go of
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me. Let
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go. Let go of me.
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It was similar to the technique of
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Leone, but to many critics, the
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apprentice had outstripped the sorcerer.
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His overall style wasn't based on that
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of any other director. I liked Wellman
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for Roxbow, and I liked Ford for Quiet
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Man, and I liked uh just depend on on on
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the picture. I've never I've never
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really been an affection out of one
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particular guy. I've I've worked with a
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lot of directors over the years in
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television and so forth that were uh
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that
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were very knowledgeable and I learned a
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lot from them and I also worked with
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some that I didn't think were
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knowledgeable and I learned a lot from
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them. Eastwood got one of the best film
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editors in Hollywood to cut High Plains
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Drifter Ferris Webster. Well, I was
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under contract to John Sturgis for 12
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years and at his peak John has made some
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beautiful pictures. Bad Day at Black
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Rock and and Magnificent Seven Great
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Escape. But then there was a period of
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real real what what do you call them?
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Dogs. They were awful
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pictures. And uh Frankenheimer, I worked
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with John. I did two very good pictures
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with him. Uh Manurian candidate in Seven
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Days in May. And then he went on a tear
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and made for years he made no good
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pictures. And they all seem to do that.
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Clint is the only consistent one. As I
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say, I I really cannot tell you a bad
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picture he's
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made. I thought the first picture he
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directed, which I did not do. Play Misty
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for me was a marvelous picture.
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So, you put Clint in a category along
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with Core and Frankenheimer and Stures
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as a director. Yeah, I put him above him
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really because I think he's a lot more
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down to earth.
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Well, he knows his craft.
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Uh, I think that his greatest weakness
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uh lies in the stories that he does. I
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think if he had uh better stories, I
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think he'd be a better director. I have
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no fault of playing with the way he
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moves his camera, etc.
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I saw high plains drifting. I didn't
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like it much.
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You dirty
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bastard. I'll kill you.
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Damn it.
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Wonder what it took us to get mad
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because maybe you didn't go back for
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more. Sure. You know where to look. In
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his most recent western, the outlaw
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Josie Wales, Eastwood establishes a
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style very much his own. He starred in
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it and directed it. To some people, a
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lonely position. Zoom in. Little ray of
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hope, man. You just can't believe it.
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Really tired, John. Really shot. Sh. You
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can relax. Okay. It's lonely in in in
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that sense that you have to make the
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final decisions, but I'm fairly good at
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that. I'm I'm fairly decisive at that
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for better or for worse. So, whether you
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agree with the end result or not, I I'm
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not afraid to put down what I have in my
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mind. But you surround yourself with
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very good people. So, it isn't lonely in
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in that aspect. I mean, I try to not
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only cast the actors that I use, but
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also to cast everybody that that works
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with you to make sure you have people
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who have good input. And I like to
784
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solicit input from everybody. Seagull
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does the same thing. To me, the an actor
786
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is involved with one component of the
787
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film, every important component of the
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film, but uh director's involved with
789
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every component of the film. And that's
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that's the difference. One is more or
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less total film making as opposed to
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just one segment. Yeah. Okay. Ready?
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Yeah. You in the mood? Yeah.
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Now, Chief, lean this way a little bit
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more. We'll look out there, Chief. Down
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there. Yes. Just to the right of the
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rain. Yeah. Okay. And in Jersey Wales,
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he portrays the West with an affection
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and a realism far removed from the
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spaghetti westerns. He continues the
801
00:34:24,639 --> 00:34:26,480
mystic and romantic undertones of his
802
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,720
earlier films. And for the first time,
803
00:34:28,720 --> 00:34:30,800
he reveals his most personal quality as
804
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:35,079
a man, his humor.
805
00:34:36,839 --> 00:34:40,000
Howdy. Howdy. I'm getting better at
806
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:41,879
sneaking up on you like
807
00:34:41,879 --> 00:34:44,560
this. Only an Indian can do something
808
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,599
like this.
809
00:34:47,599 --> 00:34:50,679
That's what I figured. You
810
00:34:50,679 --> 00:34:52,720
figured only an Indian could do
811
00:34:52,720 --> 00:34:56,119
something like that.
812
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,720
If you were offered a choice of Oscars,
813
00:35:02,720 --> 00:35:05,200
Oscar for best director or Oscar for
814
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:08,400
best actor, which would you
815
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,240
choose? It's really
816
00:35:11,240 --> 00:35:13,839
a I don't know. I never have thought in
817
00:35:13,839 --> 00:35:14,920
terms of
818
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,200
um Oscars because I've never been
819
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,160
involved in I mean I live away from town
820
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,119
and I've never been in a political
821
00:35:23,119 --> 00:35:25,400
element so to speak.
822
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,760
Uh, I suppose a director, I think
823
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,000
directing is much more gratifying. He's
824
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,640
an extremely mediocre director. He
825
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:34,720
really doesn't know how to dramatize
826
00:35:34,720 --> 00:35:37,760
material. The sequences don't build. The
827
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,960
films he directs feels very long because
828
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:44,079
there's a static dead feeling in them
829
00:35:44,079 --> 00:35:46,240
and a passionless
830
00:35:46,240 --> 00:35:49,040
uh quality to them. I think he has
831
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,359
complete control of the medium. Jersey
832
00:35:51,359 --> 00:35:54,040
seems to me to be beautifully
833
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,480
conceived, splendidly controlled. The
834
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,200
the narrative moves in absolutely the
835
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,040
right rhythm and the right direction. It
836
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:05,599
doesn't wander off. I think uh the
837
00:36:05,599 --> 00:36:08,000
outlaw Josie Wales is perhaps an
838
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,320
improvement. Although as a director
839
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,720
Eastwood now commands worldwide respect,
840
00:36:12,720 --> 00:36:14,599
as an actor, he's still relatively
841
00:36:14,599 --> 00:36:16,880
unaclaimed. Perhaps the legacy of
842
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,119
Rawhidede and the spaghetti westerns has
843
00:36:19,119 --> 00:36:21,359
blinded critics to any progress he may
844
00:36:21,359 --> 00:36:23,599
have made. He's relatively philosophical
845
00:36:23,599 --> 00:36:25,680
about it.
846
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,920
I suppose everybody' like to see
847
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:32,480
uh people in print say something
848
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,599
flattering about him. But you you've got
849
00:36:35,599 --> 00:36:36,800
to realize a lot of people didn't
850
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,280
understand those films at that time. And
851
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:40,880
a lot of people the only people who seem
852
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:42,079
to understand them was the public. The
853
00:36:42,079 --> 00:36:43,359
public seemed to catch on to them right
854
00:36:43,359 --> 00:36:45,839
away. They seem to enjoy them obviously.
855
00:36:45,839 --> 00:36:48,400
That was a reason they did well. Just a
856
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:51,079
waste of goody. Don't move any of
857
00:36:51,079 --> 00:36:53,839
your left tenant.
858
00:36:53,839 --> 00:36:56,480
No, I I'd advise you not to, Colonel.
859
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,640
After playing the loner for so long, it
860
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:00,960
wasn't easy for Eastwood to co-star here
861
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:02,720
safe and sound enjoying a drink. I'm
862
00:37:02,720 --> 00:37:06,960
sorry to interrupt you. Lieutenant, drop
863
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:10,320
that gun. What? Drop that gun and sit
864
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,320
down.
865
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,320
What the hell are you talking about? Sit
866
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,400
down. In Where Eagles Dare, for
867
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,560
instance, he and Richard Burton lacked
868
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,200
the rapport of, say, Redford and Newman.
869
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:26,000
It was more of a clash of styles.
870
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,000
Major, if I live to be a 100. Nothing,
871
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:31,000
Lieutenant.
872
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:36,240
In your own idom, you're a punk and a
873
00:37:36,240 --> 00:37:38,960
pretty second rate punk at that.
874
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,119
I was fascinated to watch his particular
875
00:37:41,119 --> 00:37:43,839
kind of behavior and his movements.
876
00:37:43,839 --> 00:37:45,200
There's a certain line of American
877
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:48,320
actors who are immensely different from
878
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,720
British actors and he is in the great
879
00:37:50,720 --> 00:37:52,800
line of shall we say Spencer Tracy or
880
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,520
James Stewart or Bob Mitchum. They have
881
00:37:55,520 --> 00:38:00,000
a kind of uh dynamic lethargy. They
882
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,880
appear to do nothing and they do
883
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,920
everything. And certainly Clint in this
884
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:07,359
particular picture the only time I've
885
00:38:07,359 --> 00:38:09,119
worked with him and I hope that of
886
00:38:09,119 --> 00:38:10,720
course I will work with him again now
887
00:38:10,720 --> 00:38:12,560
that he's so fantastically important
888
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:17,200
then maybe he'll give me a job. Um
889
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:20,240
uh it was uh very instructive actually
890
00:38:20,240 --> 00:38:22,960
to watch Clint move around these
891
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:26,480
so-called classical actors because um he
892
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,720
reduced everything to an absolute
893
00:38:28,720 --> 00:38:30,560
minimum.
894
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,119
uh if he had I remember for instance he
895
00:38:33,119 --> 00:38:35,640
had perhaps a four-line
896
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:39,440
speech and he reduced it to four words
897
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,680
and it was enormously effective much
898
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:43,839
more effective than if he spoken the
899
00:38:43,839 --> 00:38:47,119
four lines and I'm afraid he used me a
900
00:38:47,119 --> 00:38:51,040
bit in those days he u he allowed me to
901
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,280
do all the talking the script was very
902
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,200
strange script with lots of exposition
903
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:56,720
in fact even the character I played had
904
00:38:56,720 --> 00:38:58,240
tremendous amounts of exposition we'd
905
00:38:58,240 --> 00:38:59,680
stop and we'd talk for hours about
906
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:01,359
what's going going to happen and the
907
00:39:01,359 --> 00:39:03,960
director and I felt that that was very
908
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,400
impractical and so we'd let Richard's
909
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,320
character handle the exposition and he
910
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,119
has beautiful speaking voice and and
911
00:39:11,119 --> 00:39:12,960
he's very good at that sort of thing and
912
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:14,720
I would handle the shooting of which
913
00:39:14,720 --> 00:39:17,920
they felt I was very good
914
00:39:19,270 --> 00:39:22,550
[Music]
915
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,160
at but prudently since Where Eagles
916
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,079
Dare, he's rejected multi-star pictures
917
00:39:32,079 --> 00:39:34,079
and done what he's best at, playing the
918
00:39:34,079 --> 00:39:36,320
loner like Inspector Harry Callahan.
919
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,800
Dirty Harry, hero of Magnum Force in the
920
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,280
Enforcer. Don Seagull directed the first
921
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:44,200
one. I found that uh he was very
922
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:46,800
knowledgeable and vastly underrated as
923
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,760
an actor. Uh the hardest thing in the
924
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,000
world is to do nothing and he does it
925
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:53,920
very well.
926
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:57,520
He gives the impression uh that all the
927
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,720
other actors are overacting.
928
00:40:00,720 --> 00:40:02,320
Acting isn't just rolling on the floor
929
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,000
and screaming and yelling. Uh though
930
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:05,680
that's more sensational much as when a
931
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:07,359
tap dancer is crossing his hands like
932
00:40:07,359 --> 00:40:09,040
this and jumping up and down. It looks
933
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:10,640
more sensational when Fred a stair is
934
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:15,160
doing a very subtle uh step.
935
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:17,800
subtlety
936
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:22,880
is often isn't as appreciated maybe as
937
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:24,800
somebody breaking into tears and ranting
938
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,320
and raving. It just
939
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,920
a a lot of times people think you're not
940
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,560
acting but you cannot carry an audience
941
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,040
for a couple hours with the film unless
942
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:36,320
you're concentrated on what you're
943
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,880
doing. Well, I think he's barely an
944
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,200
actor at all. That is he has minimal
945
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,920
resources. But that doesn't necessarily
946
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,800
matter for a screen actor. Too many
947
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,680
players, actors and actresses react too
948
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:53,359
much. And I think this the cinema hero
949
00:40:53,359 --> 00:40:56,359
on the whole should not react
950
00:40:56,359 --> 00:40:59,119
enormously. One can't you know the the
951
00:40:59,119 --> 00:41:02,880
great players Spencer Tracy, Gary Cooper
952
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,839
have not um really shown enormous
953
00:41:05,839 --> 00:41:08,079
emotional reactions. And I think that it
954
00:41:08,079 --> 00:41:11,280
is one of his strong qualities that he
955
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,480
presents this almost impassive figure
956
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:19,200
who yet reacts in action. Well, uh, from
957
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,359
one standpoint, uh, looking at his bank
958
00:41:21,359 --> 00:41:23,760
account, I'd say he was, uh, brilliant.
959
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:25,520
But it isn't just Eastwood's acting that
960
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:27,760
is a cause for criticism. Even the roles
961
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,079
he chooses to play come under scrutiny,
962
00:41:30,079 --> 00:41:32,079
especially the maverick cop, Dirty
963
00:41:32,079 --> 00:41:35,520
Harry. This is the 44 Magnum, the most
964
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,319
powerful handgun in the world, and it
965
00:41:38,319 --> 00:41:40,200
could blow your head clean
966
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:43,839
off. Do you feel
967
00:41:44,359 --> 00:41:47,760
lucky? You must realize that that
968
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:52,000
political attitudes are carried and and
969
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,480
very intentionally carried in some of
970
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:57,040
these films. I mean, the the John Wayne
971
00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:00,560
films and the Clint Eastwood films made
972
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:02,960
during the the Nixon era and
973
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,760
particularly the heyday of the Nixon era
974
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,480
were carrying the line for for a
975
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:11,040
political position in this country and
976
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:12,880
those pictures were very definitely
977
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:14,720
shaped in those directions. It is not
978
00:42:14,720 --> 00:42:16,880
merely that these people express certain
979
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,599
attitudes offscreen. Their scripts are
980
00:42:19,599 --> 00:42:23,079
shaped in terms of what those stars
981
00:42:23,079 --> 00:42:26,079
believe.
982
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:31,240
Uh-uh. I know what you're thinking,
983
00:42:31,240 --> 00:42:33,520
Punk. You're thinking, did he fire six
984
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:35,319
shots or only
985
00:42:35,319 --> 00:42:37,359
five? Now, to tell you the truth, I
986
00:42:37,359 --> 00:42:39,720
forgot myself in all this
987
00:42:39,720 --> 00:42:42,000
excitement. But being this is a 44
988
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:43,920
Magnum, the most powerful handgun in the
989
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,280
world and will blow your head clean
990
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:49,480
off, you've got to ask yourself a
991
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:54,200
question. Do I feel lucky?
992
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:01,720
Well, do you punk?
993
00:43:11,359 --> 00:43:14,400
I thought that his relish when he killed
994
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,400
the man who stood for all liberal
995
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:19,200
principles rolled into one plus all evil
996
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:21,280
rolled into one. you know, the man who
997
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:24,240
was an absolutely maniac of a killer but
998
00:43:24,240 --> 00:43:27,040
wore a peace button. So that dirty Harry
999
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,280
stood for all the all the rightwing
1000
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:32,319
forces in American life. Uh that that
1001
00:43:32,319 --> 00:43:35,520
relish that that that Eastwood showed
1002
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:39,599
about killing uh I found offensive
1003
00:43:39,599 --> 00:43:41,520
because we're all appalled by violence
1004
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:43,520
and all critics say how perfectly awful
1005
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:48,400
it is. But when violence is turned
1006
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:50,880
against violence, we all become
1007
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:52,960
extremely immoral about it and say, "Oh,
1008
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,520
no, we can't we can't have the people
1009
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:57,760
taking the law into their own hands."
1010
00:43:57,760 --> 00:43:59,680
That they're not a man who stands for
1011
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:01,839
violence. They're men who can't
1012
00:44:01,839 --> 00:44:04,040
understand the society tolerating
1013
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,240
violence and violence perpetrated
1014
00:44:06,240 --> 00:44:07,760
against it. And when the first Dirty
1015
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:09,520
Harry came out, it was at a time when an
1016
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:11,119
awful lot of films had been done
1017
00:44:11,119 --> 00:44:15,280
concerning the um concerning the rights
1018
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:16,880
of the accused. And all of a sudden
1019
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,040
there came a film along where somebody
1020
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:20,640
was concerned with the victim and the
1021
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:21,920
rights of the victim and the comfort of
1022
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:24,000
the victim. And then so somebody called
1023
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:25,200
that fascist. Well, I don't think it's
1024
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:27,119
fascist. And he was just a man who
1025
00:44:27,119 --> 00:44:28,800
didn't understand. He didn't understand.
1026
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:31,119
He says in the picture, he says he has a
1027
00:44:31,119 --> 00:44:32,720
scene with the with the district
1028
00:44:32,720 --> 00:44:34,079
attorney where he says, "Well, if that's
1029
00:44:34,079 --> 00:44:35,599
the law, if a man can be set out on the
1030
00:44:35,599 --> 00:44:37,760
streets on a technicality like that,
1031
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:39,680
then the law is wrong." You're lucky I'm
1032
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:41,200
not indicting you for assault with
1033
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:44,920
intent to commit murder.
1034
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:47,040
What? Where the hell does it say you've
1035
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,319
got a right to kick down doors, torture
1036
00:44:49,319 --> 00:44:51,680
suspects, deny medical attention and
1037
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:55,440
legal counsel? Where have you been?
1038
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:59,440
What I'm saying is that man had rights.
1039
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:01,760
Well, I'm all broken up about that man's
1040
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,079
rights. You should be. I've got news for
1041
00:45:04,079 --> 00:45:05,520
you, Callahan. As soon as he's well
1042
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:08,720
enough to leave the hospital, he walks.
1043
00:45:08,720 --> 00:45:12,560
What are you talking about? He's free.
1044
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:14,720
You're letting him go? We have to. We
1045
00:45:14,720 --> 00:45:17,520
can't try him. And why is that? Because
1046
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:19,200
I'm not wasting a half a million dollars
1047
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:20,960
of the taxpayers's money on a trial we
1048
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:22,880
can't possibly win.
1049
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:24,240
The problem is we don't have any
1050
00:45:24,240 --> 00:45:26,720
evidence. Evidence? What the hell do you
1051
00:45:26,720 --> 00:45:31,440
call that? I call it nothing. Zero.
1052
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:33,040
Are you trying to tell me the ballistic
1053
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:34,640
can't match the bullet up to this rifle?
1054
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:37,319
It does not matter what ballistics can
1055
00:45:37,319 --> 00:45:41,000
do. This rifle might make a nice
1056
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,440
souvenir, but it's inadmissible as
1057
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,359
evidence. And who says that? It's the
1058
00:45:45,359 --> 00:45:48,560
law. Well, then the law is crazy. I
1059
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:49,800
think that is
1060
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:54,000
a a kind of reflection of a feeling in
1061
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,720
society that sometimes the law doesn't
1062
00:45:56,720 --> 00:45:59,599
act firmly enough. I'm against it. I
1063
00:45:59,599 --> 00:46:03,119
mean morally one one disapproves of any
1064
00:46:03,119 --> 00:46:05,520
single person or single section of
1065
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:08,400
society acting as its own lawgiver. We
1066
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:10,000
ourselves, Great Britain and the United
1067
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:13,440
States have imposed our feelings on
1068
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:15,440
other people. After World War II, we
1069
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:18,800
went to Nerburgg and we tried uh members
1070
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:22,480
of uh of the party in Germany at that
1071
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:24,560
time, we we tried them and convicted
1072
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:26,079
them for not adhering to a higher
1073
00:46:26,079 --> 00:46:27,680
morality. Well, that's the way Dirty
1074
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:29,200
Harry is. He's listens to a higher
1075
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:31,280
morality above the law. And he feels if
1076
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:33,599
the law is wrong, that he he should
1077
00:46:33,599 --> 00:46:35,599
fight that or try to try to solve it.
1078
00:46:35,599 --> 00:46:37,520
We're simply ridding society of killers
1079
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:38,800
that would be caught and sentenced
1080
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:40,480
anyway if our courts worked properly.
1081
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:42,240
But even Harry was eclipsed in the
1082
00:46:42,240 --> 00:46:44,319
sequel Magnum Force, where he was
1083
00:46:44,319 --> 00:46:46,480
confronted by a group of young policemen
1084
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:48,560
totally committed to upholding the law
1085
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:51,359
by violent, even ruthless means. It's
1086
00:46:51,359 --> 00:46:53,920
not just a question of whether or not to
1087
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:55,920
use violence.
1088
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,680
There simply is no other way.
1089
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:00,920
Inspector, you of all
1090
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:04,560
people should understand
1091
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:08,079
that. Either you're for us or you're
1092
00:47:08,079 --> 00:47:11,359
against us.
1093
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:15,119
[Music]
1094
00:47:15,119 --> 00:47:18,000
I'm afraid you've misjudged me. Anyone
1095
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:19,760
who threatens the security of the people
1096
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:23,839
will be executed. Evil for evil, Harry.
1097
00:47:23,839 --> 00:47:26,880
Retribution. That's just fine. How does
1098
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,680
murder fit in? You know what? Police
1099
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:31,839
start becoming their own executioners.
1100
00:47:31,839 --> 00:47:33,599
Where's it going to end? Huh, Briggs?
1101
00:47:33,599 --> 00:47:35,520
Pretty soon you start executing people
1102
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:38,160
for jaywalking and executing people for
1103
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:40,480
traffic violation. Then you end up
1104
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:42,000
executing your neighbor cuz his dog
1105
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,319
pisses on your lawn.
1106
00:47:44,319 --> 00:47:45,839
There isn't one man we've killed who
1107
00:47:45,839 --> 00:47:48,079
didn't deserve what was coming to him.
1108
00:47:48,079 --> 00:47:51,040
Yes, there is. Charlie McCoy. Now what
1109
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:52,960
would you have done? I'd have upheld the
1110
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,040
law. What the hell do you know about the
1111
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:58,240
law? You're a great cop, Harry. You had
1112
00:47:58,240 --> 00:47:59,839
a chance to join the team, but you'd
1113
00:47:59,839 --> 00:48:01,920
rather stick to the system. Rigs, I hate
1114
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:04,319
the goddamn system, but until someone
1115
00:48:04,319 --> 00:48:05,839
comes along with some changes that make
1116
00:48:05,839 --> 00:48:08,480
sense, I'll stick with it. You're about
1117
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:11,520
to become extinct.
1118
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:14,119
You have a worldwide image as this super
1119
00:48:14,119 --> 00:48:17,200
cool, ruthless, occasionally violent,
1120
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:19,760
very often humilous man that you play in
1121
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:22,160
many of your films. How much is that
1122
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:25,400
like you?
1123
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:30,079
Um, I guess there's certain elements of
1124
00:48:30,079 --> 00:48:31,520
me and every character you play. They're
1125
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:34,720
not obviously I'm not those people and I
1126
00:48:34,720 --> 00:48:36,720
don't necessarily even believe like
1127
00:48:36,720 --> 00:48:39,599
those people do or but I believe they
1128
00:48:39,599 --> 00:48:43,920
how they do for the moment. Uh, there
1129
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:45,760
there also a lot of humor involved in
1130
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:47,839
films that I've been involved in and I I
1131
00:48:47,839 --> 00:48:51,040
I like humor. I like to laugh. I like to
1132
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:54,079
watch people laugh.
1133
00:48:54,079 --> 00:48:56,319
Hi.
1134
00:48:56,319 --> 00:48:57,240
Oh,
1135
00:48:57,240 --> 00:49:01,920
hi. What's your name? Sunny.
1136
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:03,599
You know, I've been living here almost 6
1137
00:49:03,599 --> 00:49:05,359
months now. It's funny. I've never met
1138
00:49:05,359 --> 00:49:09,359
you before. Oh, well, I work a lot. I
1139
00:49:09,359 --> 00:49:12,319
know. You're the cop who lives upstairs.
1140
00:49:12,319 --> 00:49:14,720
That's right. Mind if I ask you a
1141
00:49:14,720 --> 00:49:16,240
question?
1142
00:49:16,240 --> 00:49:18,880
Go ahead. What does a girl have to do to
1143
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:22,520
go to bed with you?
1144
00:49:26,240 --> 00:49:29,040
Try knocking on the door. In the summer
1145
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:31,760
of 1976, Eastwood returned to the
1146
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:33,760
streets of San Francisco. He's
1147
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:35,359
completing the trio of dirty Harry
1148
00:49:35,359 --> 00:49:37,400
films, the final ones called The
1149
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:39,680
Enforcer. On the set, he's able to
1150
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:41,359
switch from the Lethal and Laconic
1151
00:49:41,359 --> 00:49:43,680
Detective to his usual sunny self with
1152
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:46,160
ease. His Bonomy is legendary among the
1153
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:48,079
production team.
1154
00:49:48,079 --> 00:49:49,599
Working in a parking lot gives you a lot
1155
00:49:49,599 --> 00:49:52,490
of experience with that sort of thing.
1156
00:49:52,490 --> 00:49:53,760
[Music]
1157
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:55,920
your normal San Francisco driver on
1158
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:59,599
Saturday night. I uh driving his
1159
00:49:59,599 --> 00:50:02,559
limousine back to the Villa Roma.
1160
00:50:02,559 --> 00:50:04,319
Although he chooses not to direct the
1161
00:50:04,319 --> 00:50:06,880
picture, he owns it. He's appointed Jim
1162
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:09,200
Fargo, his assistant on Josie Wales as
1163
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:11,359
director, but he still brings his power
1164
00:50:11,359 --> 00:50:13,599
and his instinct to bear, especially
1165
00:50:13,599 --> 00:50:16,400
when the script is too wordy.
1166
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:17,839
See, the whole thing just goes on and on
1167
00:50:17,839 --> 00:50:20,160
and on for stuff that doesn't Main No, I
1168
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:22,000
agree. You can dump all this. What does
1169
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,480
he What does he want? He wants a car.
1170
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:26,000
We'll give him one. Yeah. This is kind
1171
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:30,880
of like a mini uh Uganda Uganda raid.
1172
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:33,119
See, most film stars know when they've
1173
00:50:33,119 --> 00:50:34,720
delivered a line, right? With his
1174
00:50:34,720 --> 00:50:36,640
experience behind the camera, Eastwood
1175
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:41,000
knows how to time an action right.
1176
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:43,760
Let me do one more. I anticipated that
1177
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:45,839
shot too much. And for that reason, he
1178
00:50:45,839 --> 00:50:48,079
very often does his own stunts. For the
1179
00:50:48,079 --> 00:50:50,160
Aigger sanction, he went out and trained
1180
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:52,160
and learned to mountain climb in order
1181
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:54,960
to give the film
1182
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:56,680
[Music]
1183
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:58,880
authenticity. He came down to earth with
1184
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:01,280
a splash in Hangam High. And in Dirty
1185
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:03,280
Harry, he leapt from a bridge onto a
1186
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:05,760
moving bus. Not a great feat of heroism,
1187
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:07,839
but enough to give the insurance company
1188
00:51:07,839 --> 00:51:11,200
a few worries.
1189
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:13,359
As an actor, you have genuinely done
1190
00:51:13,359 --> 00:51:14,880
your own stunts. She did this amazing
1191
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:16,880
jump from the bridge in Dirty Harry. Wh
1192
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:18,319
Why do you do that when there are stunt
1193
00:51:18,319 --> 00:51:21,839
men who are presumably paid to do so?
1194
00:51:21,839 --> 00:51:23,640
Excuse me, I got
1195
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:26,359
to Excuse me. Just a little
1196
00:51:26,359 --> 00:51:31,000
sneeze. Stunts always make me sneeze.
1197
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:33,440
Um because we were we had the camera on
1198
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:36,319
the bus. The only way to do it was to to
1199
00:51:36,319 --> 00:51:38,079
and see you leap right into the camera,
1200
00:51:38,079 --> 00:51:41,040
they're going to know who it is. Uh it
1201
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:43,359
just seems like if it's a logical stunt
1202
00:51:43,359 --> 00:51:45,440
and it isn't ridiculous, something that
1203
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:47,960
uh is putting the whole company in
1204
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:51,040
jeopardy, why not? In the enforcer, the
1205
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:52,800
stunt man may be paid to fall through
1206
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,119
the skylight, but the star isn't. He
1207
00:51:55,119 --> 00:51:59,400
approaches the prospect cautiously.
1208
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:02,920
He just graz
1209
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:06,160
How much further you want to go? Is he
1210
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:07,599
all right? Yeah, he's all right. Square
1211
00:52:07,599 --> 00:52:09,839
it up. where they're putting the camera.
1212
00:52:09,839 --> 00:52:11,440
This side here I know is going to follow
1213
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:14,240
him in. Kick it out before you go. I
1214
00:52:14,240 --> 00:52:15,680
don't think I don't think that'll go. I
1215
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:17,520
think that'll stay there. Yeah. And it
1216
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:19,280
could hit him on the nog and and it's
1217
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:20,960
heavy. It really is heavy. If I were
1218
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:21,920
going to jump through there, I'd kick
1219
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:22,960
that stuff out. What I would do is
1220
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:25,200
forget this camera and and shoot this
1221
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:26,640
shot later when you're down more. And
1222
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:28,400
you can have me drop in with the pieces
1223
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:30,319
there. I I'd rather not drop in on the
1224
00:52:30,319 --> 00:52:32,400
pieces. Those pieces there. Yeah. Well,
1225
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:34,000
let's not do it then. But you can set
1226
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:36,480
another camera in here where you're down
1227
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:38,319
towards everything and we can just jump
1228
00:52:38,319 --> 00:52:40,800
in next to it. Maybe a little lesser of
1229
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:44,599
a jump. Okay.
1230
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:54,640
Got it. Good.
1231
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:55,599
You never really know how you're going
1232
00:52:55,599 --> 00:52:57,480
to do those things.
1233
00:52:57,480 --> 00:53:00,240
God, don't let him kill me. He wants the
1234
00:53:00,240 --> 00:53:02,720
goddamn car right now. In the enforcer,
1235
00:53:02,720 --> 00:53:04,400
Eastwood confronts a gang who've robbed
1236
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:06,240
a liquor store and taken the staff
1237
00:53:06,240 --> 00:53:09,280
hostage. They want a getaway car. For
1238
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:12,400
God's sakes, Mr. Do like you said.
1239
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:14,720
This is my best sport. I said get your
1240
00:53:14,720 --> 00:53:16,400
ass on the floor, you dirty son of a
1241
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:21,000
[ __ ] Spread eagle. Move it.
1242
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:25,359
After putting up with the gang's threats
1243
00:53:25,359 --> 00:53:27,680
and humiliations, Eastwood, or rather
1244
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:29,760
Inspector Harry Callahan, decides to
1245
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:33,280
carry out their wishes to the letter.
1246
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:36,079
Run, give ass bastard. What do they
1247
00:53:36,079 --> 00:53:40,440
want? I want a car.
1248
00:53:40,720 --> 00:53:43,760
What are you going to do?
1249
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:45,510
Give him one.
1250
00:53:45,510 --> 00:53:48,609
[Applause]
1251
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:56,450
Son of a [ __ ]
1252
00:53:56,450 --> 00:53:59,550
[Music]
1253
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:06,200
[Music]
1254
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:19,079
Everything is a figment of the
1255
00:54:19,079 --> 00:54:21,599
imagination. It's It's the It's the
1256
00:54:21,599 --> 00:54:22,960
character you're telling at the moment.
1257
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:26,240
It's all It's all fakery. Do you shoot a
1258
00:54:26,240 --> 00:54:27,520
gun, for instance? Go hunting or
1259
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:29,040
anything like that? I don't hunt, but I
1260
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:32,160
target shoot a gun. Yeah, I have uh I
1261
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:34,720
have a gun range up in the valley that I
1262
00:54:34,720 --> 00:54:37,359
on a piece of property that I own and uh
1263
00:54:37,359 --> 00:54:42,160
I go out there and shoot now and then.
1264
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:44,000
What about relaxing? What do you do to
1265
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:45,839
relax?
1266
00:54:45,839 --> 00:54:47,599
Well, what I do to relax normally just
1267
00:54:47,599 --> 00:54:51,440
come here. I normally don't. Sometimes I
1268
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:54,079
have guests, sometimes not. And I'll uh
1269
00:54:54,079 --> 00:54:55,599
this is where I think best. This is
1270
00:54:55,599 --> 00:54:57,280
where I work best. I may go up in the
1271
00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:59,280
mountain somewhere, hike off. I'll play
1272
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:00,720
a little tennis or golf, something like
1273
00:55:00,720 --> 00:55:02,720
that with some friends. It's kind of
1274
00:55:02,720 --> 00:55:05,440
relaxing. Were you always very relaxed?
1275
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:07,359
Um, didn't you at one stage use
1276
00:55:07,359 --> 00:55:09,280
transcendental meditation to relax? Did
1277
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:11,680
you find that? just a personal tool that
1278
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:14,559
a lot of people use to relax that I've
1279
00:55:14,559 --> 00:55:16,559
always been relaxed on the surface. I'm
1280
00:55:16,559 --> 00:55:19,000
not necessarily relaxed
1281
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:21,760
within. I mean my I'm physically relaxed
1282
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:23,520
but sometimes my mental motor will be
1283
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:25,359
going at twice the speed as it appears
1284
00:55:25,359 --> 00:55:28,559
on the surface. And that's that uh
1285
00:55:28,559 --> 00:55:30,079
sometimes in order to get them both down
1286
00:55:30,079 --> 00:55:31,920
to the same level you can sit and
1287
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:34,640
meditate whatever form of meditation is.
1288
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:35,839
It might just be sitting out on that
1289
00:55:35,839 --> 00:55:38,400
rock there watching the sea otterters or
1290
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:41,119
whatever. you shy away from the more
1291
00:55:41,119 --> 00:55:42,960
traditional Hollywood star life. Why is
1292
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:45,280
that?
1293
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:47,760
I don't know. I just I just I couldn't
1294
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:50,720
really tell you. I just um I I don't
1295
00:55:50,720 --> 00:55:53,520
enjoy the the I'm not a social type
1296
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:54,960
person as a rule. I enjoy it
1297
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:58,079
occasionally, but uh not on a on a
1298
00:55:58,079 --> 00:55:59,280
regular thing. I live up here where the
1299
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:02,040
air is cleaner and
1300
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:05,359
uh up I see movies at the local cinema
1301
00:56:05,359 --> 00:56:07,599
in town and they uh I watch them with
1302
00:56:07,599 --> 00:56:10,240
people who are not involved with uh the
1303
00:56:10,240 --> 00:56:12,480
cinema business and so I see how they
1304
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:14,559
react and I I feel I get a better look
1305
00:56:14,559 --> 00:56:18,160
at what uh what reality is around me and
1306
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:21,119
and and maybe in most the average town
1307
00:56:21,119 --> 00:56:23,520
across the across the world and most
1308
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:25,040
certainly it's this knowledge this
1309
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:26,720
instinct for what the average cinema
1310
00:56:26,720 --> 00:56:28,160
goer wants to see that has brought
1311
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:29,760
brought eastward to his present position
1312
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:31,599
as one of the most potent filmmakers
1313
00:56:31,599 --> 00:56:33,680
around. The spaghetti westerns are
1314
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:35,520
behind him now and he won't make another
1315
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:37,839
dirty Harry. So what the future holds
1316
00:56:37,839 --> 00:56:40,000
could be interesting. He doesn't really
1317
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:41,920
need much of anything. He could if he
1318
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:43,040
everything failed him today and he had
1319
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:44,799
to go back to digging swimming pools as
1320
00:56:44,799 --> 00:56:46,640
he was doing 25 years ago. He could do
1321
00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:48,000
it with very little problems. He would
1322
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:49,119
have not have to make any major
1323
00:56:49,119 --> 00:56:50,880
adjustments in his life's his own
1324
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:53,839
personal philosophy. He could do it. one
1325
00:56:53,839 --> 00:56:56,640
reviews him in terms of what he does on
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the screen. I know very very little
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about him beyond that and what comes
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across on the screen is a man with a
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very narrow range of emotions. Now the
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Clint Eastwood off the screen may be a
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very affable man. In fact, the laugh
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lines on his face uh which make him
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resemble Shirley Mlane at times suggest
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that he's probably a very genial person.
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He's he's got that indefinable something
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that is uh the best in America. I think
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uh we sort of look up to him. He's
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cleancut. Uh he's strong. He's resolute.
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He's honest. I don't mean to be uh you
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know sackcharin about it, fatuous about
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it, but he's a kind of chap that that
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certainly at my age uh I'd like my son
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to turn out like Clint. I have lost
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never met him. would greatly like to
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meet him and see where he he diverges
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and this solitary figure riding a quiet
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horse which one sees on the
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screen. One does of course one does
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equate the actor with the people he
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plays more in the cinema I suppose than
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in any other art because in the cinema
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the range is limited by popular
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demand. If uh Clint Eastwood wanted to
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play Hamlet, I think that the cinema
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public would be extremely indignant. You
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see, they like seeing him. I do too.
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They like seeing him as this solitary
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creature, this avenging figure or this
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becoming a romantic figure. Clint's face
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has developed a kind of torment and a
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torture that he didn't have, shall we
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say, 10 years ago when he was uh simply
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a a golden
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boy. There's a there's a a strain in his
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face now that is absolutely fascinating.
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You you have to just keep grinding until
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the talent, the the hard work, the
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effort to learn, and the good luck all
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come together at one time. And when they
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do, then you then you're all right.
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I tell you my
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dream. And while you're listening to
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me, I suddenly see
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him come true.
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What did you say your name was again?
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I didn't
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