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For Dean, it was
always about Yosemite�
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his cathedral,
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his proving ground.
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Dean was in his 30s
at this point.
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Physically, mentally,
I think he was still
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at his�his high point
as a climber.
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I realize
the clock is ticking.
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At least most people
get weaker soon.
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But the mind gets better
with age.
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Creativity becomes
more and more.
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I've never been
the strongest climber,
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but somehow,
I seem to, through willpower,
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pull off big climbs,
creative climbs.
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And now what can I do
with total concentration
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and single-focused desire?
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At this moment,
Dean still had the power to do
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something really great
in the Valley.
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Half Dome, of course,
had never been free soloed.
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God, man, could El Cap
ever be free soloed?
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If you want to have
a big impact on climbing,
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you do something on El Cap
or on Half Dome,
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the biggest walls
in the most important place.
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Alex Honnold,
he had these same ambitions,
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and he had these same goals.
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Once again,
you're gonna have conflict
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and competition going on.
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These two guys duking it out
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in the most dangerous duel
you can imagine.
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Who was gonna be the first
to do these legendary climbs?
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So amazing climbing
is gonna happen,
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or somebody might die.
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I was hanging out in Dean's
living room in Yosemite,
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and there was a little
black book on the table.
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And I�I just picked it up,
and I was like,
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ooh, this is, like,
Dean's tick list,
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secret list
of what he's training for,
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what his big dreams are.
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Top of the list was
free solo Half Dome.
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Dean's big breakout moment
in the '90s
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was that speed solo
on Half Dome.
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He was sometimes hanging on
the rope and pulling on gear.
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Dean hadn't yet
free soloed Half Dome.
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Nobody had.
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There's just one
blank section at the top
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that he was too scared to do
without a rope.
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But he was working
towards that goal.
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It was gonna get
extremely close to his limit.
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He just kept practicing on it,
getting more comfortable.
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Like, I�I had heard
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that Dean wanted
to free solo Half Dome,
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and it certainly seemed
like something
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that he maybe could have done
at some point,
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but he just never did it.
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And I don't know,
I just thought I could do it.
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Well, I mean,
I knew I could do it.
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Honnold free soloing
Half Dome,
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it was arguably the greatest
single achievement
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in Yosemite climbing
at that point.
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Dean probably
could have done it,
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and it would have been
quite a plum.
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Well, Alex just came
and did it.
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Dean was super pissed
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that Honnold had come
and stolen his project.
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I mean, he was, like,
so territorial, you know?
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Alex Honnold,
when he did Half Dome,
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what was your take on it?
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Yeah, you know,
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I had mixed feelings when�
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when Alex came around,
you know.
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Partially I was like,
fuck, I wanted that.
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Another part was just like,
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that's the way it goes,
you know?
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Alex has been
real competitive with me,
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trying to do things
that he knows I�I want to do.
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And he's�you know,
he's younger.
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He's real competitive.
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You said,
"Fuck, I wanted that."
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So is there a more broad thing
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you could explain how
that would feel�it's like�
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Oh, fuck, he knew
that was my�my life's goal,
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and he did it before me,
because he was a competitive
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kind of, like, twerp.
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Dean knew there was
one big climb
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still to be done
in Yosemite Valley�
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the free solo of El Capitan.
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It is always in
the collective unconscious
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of the Yosemite climber
that free soloing El Cap
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would be the ultimate
of the ultimate.
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3,000 feet of steep,
overhanging rock climbing.
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El Cap is the biggest thing
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that anybody would
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think of free soloing.
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Dean said to me many times,
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"The man who solos El Cap
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will be the greatest climber
of all time."
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I knew that Dean wanted
to free solo El Cap,
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because who doesn't look
at El Cap
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and want to free solo it?
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It's more about, like,
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whether or not
you're capable of it.
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At some point, somebody wrote
an "Outside Magazine" article
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inquiring as to whether
Dean or I would do it first.
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Which of these two
contenders will it be?
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Well, I mean, I know
when I read the piece,
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I was like, it's gonna be me.
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Looking up at El Cap,
it looks so fucking scary.
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Hard to believe
some of the things I've done
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and almost impossible
to believe
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what I want to do up there.
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Yeah.
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Feeling the competitive pull,
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seeing that Alex is probably
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going to free solo it
before me.
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Yikes.
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Dean was desperate
to get it before Alex,
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but Potter understood that
if he was gonna solo El Cap,
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he knew, yeah.
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Let's try freeBASE.
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FreeBASE, climbing
with parachute protection.
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I invented that
trying to figure out a way
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how I could climb El Cap
by myself
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with a high likelihood
of living.
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Before taking it
to El Capitan,
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Dean started soloing
with a BASE rig
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some of these other routes
in Yosemite�
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hard, hard routes that had
never been free soloed.
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Of course, BASE jumping
is illegal in Yosemite,
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and he's climbing where
the rangers can see him.
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As long as I don't fall,
it's legal.
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If I do fall
and have to pitch my chute,
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the rangers are waiting for me
down there.
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But I don't care about that.
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Whatever it takes,
I'm gonna take it further
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than anything anybody's
free soloed in Yosemite.
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Whoo!
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Glad I had my little friend.
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This whole time,
Dean was prepping
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for freeBASEing El Cap.
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To free solo
or freeBASE El Cap
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meant climbing
one of the routes
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straight up the biggest,
steepest part of the mountain.
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But for the most part,
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those climbs are
too technically difficult.
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Everybody knew
there's only one route
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that's remotely possible,
the Free Rider.
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This route,
the hardest pitch is
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right in the middle
of the wall.
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The problem is, you know,
El Cap's like that shape.
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And so lower down,
it's not that steep.
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If you fall off
the hardest section,
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you're hitting the slab
80 feet down.
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But having a parachute or not
wouldn't affect the fact
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that you would bounce off,
and, like,
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it would be
a catastrophic way to die.
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But I'll tell you what.
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That whole top part
of Free Rider
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overhangs a little bit.
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Dean was pretty convinced
that the upper part of the wall
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was actually quite safe
with a parachute.
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Eventually, Dean wanted
to test the freeBASE
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right at the very top
of El Cap.
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Right.
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He rappelled down.
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There's a bunch
of white cars down the road.
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But falling
with the BASE rig,
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it was illegal
what we were doing.
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And Dean was stressed
about getting caught.
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What's that car
straight out there?
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No tool car or anything?
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You think they won't see me?
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He came up with the idea
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of wearing some sort
of superhero mask�
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So he couldn't be identified.
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Classic, classic Dean.
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Whoo!
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All right, Bryan,
let's do this.
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Yeah, my name is
Bryan Smith,
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and I've been known
for adventure filmmaking.
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I got this opportunity
for a one-hour special
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with a big network�
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you know, a story
about Dean Potter.
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Called Dean.
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He said it was appealing
to do something
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for mainstream television.
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Dean was like, "Well,
I want to solo Free Rider,
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"but I'm not prepared
to, like, you know,
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top to bottom free solo
the whole thing."
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But he said,
"The upper section,
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I can climb freeBASE."
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In case he fell,
he'd be able to jump
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and pull a parachute.
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It's, like, badass.
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Come on over.
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When we arrived in Yosemite,
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Park Service was
already on edge.
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Like, "You're filming
Dean Potter?
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What?"
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We're assigned a monitor
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to follow every single
step that we do
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inside of Yosemite
National Park.
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Yeah.
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So we start running
this interview.
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We're�
we're losing light here.
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Yeah.
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Dean and our
Park Service monitor�
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It won't be too much longer.
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They clearly have a history.
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There's, um�I�
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you won't censor
what I say at all,
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Catherine, and I won't�I'll�
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So please don't tell me
what to say.
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And I'd like it best if
you couldn't hear my interview,
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because I'm uncomfortable
around the Park Service.
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Thanks a lot.
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I've never had
a more intense lead up
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to a film shoot.
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Several days before the climb,
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with all the drama
coming from Park Service,
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they said there can be
absolutely no BASE jumping�
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not a single parachute,
nothing.
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So you're gonna
have to climb this,
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like, without a parachute
on your back.
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Dean didn't know what to do.
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He was freaking out.
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His intensity just
starts ramping up.
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He doesn't want to talk.
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You have a million questions,
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but you probably shouldn't
ask him anything.
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Eventually, he was like,
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"OK, I'm gonna do this
without a parachute."
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But he was scared.
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We didn't know if he could do
what he was gonna do.
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But the whole film crew
is here.
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He didn't want to bow out.
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The day before the climb,
we're going up the trail,
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getting our equipment
to the top of El Cap.
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- Take that camera.
- Yeah.
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He had concocted
some kind of crazy approach
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from the top to down climb,
traverse in,
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and then free solo the upper
section of Free Rider.
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Camping up there,
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Dean became more
and more distant,
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kept moving his tent
further away,
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just completely separating
himself from production.
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Everyone on the crew
was like, "Is he OK?
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Is he gonna survive?"
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I mean, I barely slept
that night.
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The morning of, Dean told us,
"Get your shit together.
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Don't fuck it up, and, like,
be ready for the shots."
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- Can�
- Ask them.
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Maybe they can.
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Everyone moved
into their positions.
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- Ready.
- Ready?
254
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Yep.
255
00:15:34,851 --> 00:15:38,396
And got ready for Dean
to make a grand appearance.
256
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He had this, like,
red, tattered shirt on.
257
00:15:44,152 --> 00:15:48,197
And Dean said, "Oh, this is
a shirt my dad gave to me,
258
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and I always wear it on days
that I think I'm gonna die."
259
00:15:53,578 --> 00:15:55,788
And I mean, I've worked
with professional athletes
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that are very good
at managing risk.
261
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Where most people would stop
and be like,
262
00:16:01,919 --> 00:16:05,089
"OK, I don't feel well,
maybe I shouldn't do this,"
263
00:16:05,173 --> 00:16:08,342
Dean's feeding off
of that energy to, like,
264
00:16:08,426 --> 00:16:11,762
kind of push himself
forward to the brink.
265
00:16:15,850 --> 00:16:19,270
Then he started slowly
moving across
266
00:16:19,353 --> 00:16:22,482
this, like, secret approach.
267
00:16:27,403 --> 00:16:30,740
The ledge, it's getting
smaller and smaller.
268
00:16:33,826 --> 00:16:35,828
Squeezing himself
through these places.
269
00:16:46,797 --> 00:16:50,927
Eventually,
he gets to this hard spot
270
00:16:51,010 --> 00:16:53,221
on the upper part
of Free Rider.
271
00:17:01,395 --> 00:17:02,772
We were shitting ourselves.
272
00:17:31,300 --> 00:17:32,426
And now all of a sudden,
273
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he's, like, 3,000 feet
off the Valley floor.
274
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He gets up to this section,
the off width.
275
00:18:19,932 --> 00:18:23,311
There's no handholds
or footholds.
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00:18:24,854 --> 00:18:27,732
Just, like, wedging
himself in there.
277
00:18:32,778 --> 00:18:36,073
Every move,
it's a total fight.
278
00:18:38,576 --> 00:18:41,078
You can see
it's taking a toll on him.
279
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It was pins and needles,
and I was right in his face.
280
00:19:43,974 --> 00:19:47,687
This whole time, I was trying
to stay focused on the shots,
281
00:19:47,770 --> 00:19:53,025
but I was so scared of making
a mistake on the camera side.
282
00:19:55,444 --> 00:19:58,364
You know, you drop a lens cap,
you kill the guy.
283
00:20:18,050 --> 00:20:22,304
All of a sudden,
somebody comes on the radio.
284
00:20:24,390 --> 00:20:25,683
Tell him to shut up now.
285
00:20:25,766 --> 00:20:26,976
Tell him to shut up.
286
00:20:28,269 --> 00:20:29,437
Tell him to shut up.
287
00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:30,563
Please no radio.
288
00:20:30,646 --> 00:20:31,646
We're in the middle of filming.
289
00:20:31,689 --> 00:20:32,982
No radio.
290
00:20:54,128 --> 00:20:55,337
Sorry.
291
00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:18,345
No problem.
292
00:21:18,360 --> 00:21:19,487
Sorry I lost it.
293
00:21:20,488 --> 00:21:22,573
He's, like,
apologizing to us.
294
00:21:26,494 --> 00:21:29,455
I mean, dude, you don't need
to apologize to me.
295
00:21:29,538 --> 00:21:32,500
You're, like, hanging
with no rope.
296
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:16,544
He got to the top.
297
00:22:19,255 --> 00:22:26,053
And it's not, like,
a moment of excitement.
298
00:22:31,016 --> 00:22:32,002
I don't know.
299
00:22:32,017 --> 00:22:33,143
I think he's just
taking in that
300
00:22:33,227 --> 00:22:37,731
he's still there
and he's�he's still alive.
301
00:22:37,815 --> 00:22:39,942
I was pretty fucking nervous.
302
00:22:40,025 --> 00:22:41,151
Were you�
like, that was the�
303
00:22:41,235 --> 00:22:42,820
I didn't sleep last night
and had, like�
304
00:22:42,903 --> 00:22:45,865
was, like, feverish
and, like, a little bit,
305
00:22:45,948 --> 00:22:48,951
like, unsettled
or very unsettled all night.
306
00:22:51,245 --> 00:22:55,374
And that was my deepest
spiritual act right there.
307
00:22:55,457 --> 00:22:58,502
So it's even kind of weird
to share it with the camera.
308
00:22:58,586 --> 00:23:02,339
For us as a group,
this was a big deal.
309
00:23:02,423 --> 00:23:05,050
For the first time in history,
310
00:23:05,134 --> 00:23:09,305
somebody had free soloed
a huge section of El Capitan.
311
00:23:09,388 --> 00:23:12,641
El Capitan's headwall has
now been climbed ropeless,
312
00:23:12,725 --> 00:23:14,685
and I think it's just
a matter of time
313
00:23:14,768 --> 00:23:16,228
till he does it
from the ground, probably.
314
00:23:16,312 --> 00:23:19,148
There's not too many people
in the world to do that.
315
00:23:19,231 --> 00:23:20,941
- No, there's one.
- I mean�
316
00:23:21,025 --> 00:23:22,902
yeah, there's one guy.
317
00:23:22,985 --> 00:23:24,945
- His name's Dean Potter.
- And it's not Alex.
318
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,365
It really is, like,
the first�first step
319
00:23:28,449 --> 00:23:29,992
towards soloing El Cap,
320
00:23:30,075 --> 00:23:32,745
the most ultimate free solo
in the world.
321
00:23:33,787 --> 00:23:35,623
The day after the climb,
322
00:23:35,706 --> 00:23:39,960
there was this complete reset
in his personality.
323
00:23:41,378 --> 00:23:45,132
It was clear that, for Dean,
324
00:23:45,215 --> 00:23:49,595
in these on-the-edge,
life-or-death moments,
325
00:23:49,678 --> 00:23:51,305
there was a payoff.
326
00:23:55,935 --> 00:24:01,649
Like, the death consequence,
as extreme as it is,
327
00:24:01,732 --> 00:24:03,275
it is such a teacher.
328
00:24:04,944 --> 00:24:05,944
It's just so pure.
329
00:24:05,986 --> 00:24:07,738
Like, it's like,
330
00:24:07,821 --> 00:24:09,698
if I live, I'm really happy.
331
00:24:09,782 --> 00:24:11,075
Like, it's that simple.
332
00:24:11,158 --> 00:24:14,036
Like�like, if I live
through this, afterwards,
333
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:16,622
it puts me in this
totally different state.
334
00:24:16,705 --> 00:24:19,833
And then it just
simplifies, like�
335
00:24:19,917 --> 00:24:23,921
like, how good life is.
336
00:24:24,004 --> 00:24:26,006
You put your life out there.
337
00:24:26,090 --> 00:24:27,841
You feel these
different things,
338
00:24:27,925 --> 00:24:30,052
and they're�they're, um�
339
00:24:30,135 --> 00:24:32,429
they're�like, we have
more in us than we�
340
00:24:32,513 --> 00:24:34,306
than we�
than most of us realize.
341
00:24:34,390 --> 00:24:35,933
And I�I mean, I still think
342
00:24:36,016 --> 00:24:38,477
I'm just tapping into it
a little bit.
343
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:40,312
I'm hungry for this now.
344
00:24:40,396 --> 00:24:44,191
I felt it, and I want more.
345
00:24:45,818 --> 00:24:48,362
So Dean's solo, the route
that he called the Easy Rider,
346
00:24:48,445 --> 00:24:50,072
that was, like,
the first volley,
347
00:24:50,155 --> 00:24:52,825
his own personal step toward
free soloing El Cap.
348
00:24:52,908 --> 00:24:54,243
To me, I was like,
oh, that's creative.
349
00:24:54,326 --> 00:24:55,327
That's interesting.
Power to him.
350
00:24:55,411 --> 00:24:56,578
Like, that's cool.
351
00:24:56,662 --> 00:24:57,913
But it's a long ways away
352
00:24:57,997 --> 00:24:59,373
from actually doing
the hard thing.
353
00:24:59,456 --> 00:25:00,624
You know, now you only
have to worry
354
00:25:00,708 --> 00:25:02,334
about the bottom 2,500 feet.
355
00:25:03,419 --> 00:25:05,129
But Dean had a vision.
356
00:25:05,212 --> 00:25:06,463
He had plans.
357
00:25:06,547 --> 00:25:08,924
Dean cooked up
a concept to go
358
00:25:09,008 --> 00:25:10,718
way off to the left-hand
side of El Cap
359
00:25:10,801 --> 00:25:13,721
to solo this route
called the West Face route.
360
00:25:13,804 --> 00:25:15,889
It's a little smaller
and, by itself,
361
00:25:15,973 --> 00:25:19,977
not considered one of the big,
proud, real El Cap routes,
362
00:25:20,060 --> 00:25:23,522
but it just happens to go
right into
363
00:25:23,605 --> 00:25:27,860
that circuitous linkup that
he had figured out to the top.
364
00:25:27,943 --> 00:25:30,237
He called it the West Rider.
365
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,991
It was soloing the West Face
and to the Free Rider finish.
366
00:25:35,242 --> 00:25:37,202
He had found a way
he could claim to be
367
00:25:37,286 --> 00:25:38,996
the first person
to free solo El Cap.
368
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,833
Super inspired by the idea
369
00:25:42,916 --> 00:25:44,251
of this West Rider route,
370
00:25:44,334 --> 00:25:45,836
picking away at that.
371
00:25:45,919 --> 00:25:48,714
Seems like it will
come into doable
372
00:25:48,797 --> 00:25:50,049
sometime this spring.
373
00:25:50,132 --> 00:25:51,884
You know,
Dean was pretty secretive
374
00:25:51,967 --> 00:25:53,052
about the whole thing.
375
00:25:53,135 --> 00:25:56,221
This climb was really
important to him.
376
00:25:56,305 --> 00:25:59,767
But Alex heard that he was
planning on doing that.
377
00:25:59,850 --> 00:26:01,518
I don't know who leaked it.
378
00:26:01,602 --> 00:26:02,978
I'd heard rumor
that Dean was gonna
379
00:26:03,062 --> 00:26:04,354
solo the West Face of El Cap
380
00:26:04,438 --> 00:26:06,398
and connect it over
into the Easy Rider.
381
00:26:06,482 --> 00:26:08,942
And that, to me,
felt slightly threatening.
382
00:26:09,026 --> 00:26:09,928
If he did that,
383
00:26:09,943 --> 00:26:11,153
mainstream media
would have no�
384
00:26:11,236 --> 00:26:12,321
you know, like,
it would be considered
385
00:26:12,404 --> 00:26:13,614
the first free solo of El Cap,
386
00:26:13,697 --> 00:26:15,574
but that's the�
the most weaselly way
387
00:26:15,657 --> 00:26:16,643
to free solo El Cap.
388
00:26:16,658 --> 00:26:18,077
The idea of somebody
doing this, like,
389
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,120
sneaky little reach-around
where they start on the side,
390
00:26:20,204 --> 00:26:22,247
they finish in the middle,
they call it an El Cap route,
391
00:26:22,331 --> 00:26:23,832
I was like, that is a hard no.
392
00:26:23,916 --> 00:26:26,251
I was like, that is doing
a disservice to El Cap.
393
00:26:26,335 --> 00:26:28,754
Honnold's, like, defending
the honor of El Cap,
394
00:26:28,837 --> 00:26:30,464
like that is an achievement
395
00:26:30,547 --> 00:26:32,841
below the dignity
of El Capitan.
396
00:26:32,925 --> 00:26:36,261
So�yeah, so what was your�
what action did you take?
397
00:26:36,345 --> 00:26:39,723
I knew that if I free soloed
the West Face before him,
398
00:26:39,807 --> 00:26:42,059
Dean wouldn't be able
to claim it as this, like,
399
00:26:42,142 --> 00:26:43,852
first free solo of El Cap.
400
00:26:43,936 --> 00:26:47,314
And then I just went
and did it with no fanfare.
401
00:26:49,399 --> 00:26:52,027
"West Face, 5.11c, solo.
402
00:26:52,111 --> 00:26:54,113
"Good times but climbed
too tensely on bottom.
403
00:26:54,196 --> 00:26:55,405
Over gripped."
404
00:26:55,489 --> 00:26:57,950
This was
a preemptive strike.
405
00:26:58,033 --> 00:27:00,911
Honnold just sort of
took the glory out of it,
406
00:27:00,994 --> 00:27:02,121
stole the thunder.
407
00:27:02,204 --> 00:27:03,747
I was hanging out
with Honnold.
408
00:27:03,831 --> 00:27:04,832
Alex goes,
409
00:27:04,915 --> 00:27:06,583
"Dean was trying to do
that thing on the�
410
00:27:06,667 --> 00:27:07,668
"on the West Face,
411
00:27:07,751 --> 00:27:09,253
"and I nipped that one
in the bud,
412
00:27:09,336 --> 00:27:11,880
"and I just ran up there
and did that right away.
413
00:27:11,964 --> 00:27:14,925
There's no way he's gonna
call that soloing El Cap."
414
00:27:15,008 --> 00:27:20,139
And I was like, wait a second,
this is a whole other level.
415
00:27:20,222 --> 00:27:21,223
Right?
416
00:27:21,306 --> 00:27:25,185
It really illuminated
the life-and-death struggle
417
00:27:25,269 --> 00:27:28,021
that was playing out
between these two.
418
00:27:28,105 --> 00:27:29,091
As I suspected,
419
00:27:29,106 --> 00:27:30,399
it sort of took the wind
out of Dean's sails,
420
00:27:30,482 --> 00:27:31,650
and then he never soloed
the West Face
421
00:27:31,733 --> 00:27:33,277
and sort of
let the whole thing go.
422
00:27:33,360 --> 00:27:35,028
Put the�put the nail
in the coffin.
423
00:27:38,866 --> 00:27:45,664
Um, having my projects�
424
00:27:45,747 --> 00:27:49,126
done by others
will just help me
425
00:27:49,209 --> 00:27:53,589
lose my overinflated ego.
426
00:27:53,672 --> 00:27:55,966
Yeah, I'm feeling
all sorts of different pulls.
427
00:27:56,049 --> 00:27:57,676
Not sure.
428
00:27:57,759 --> 00:27:59,803
Always not sure, not sure.
429
00:28:03,390 --> 00:28:05,142
I think very few of us
in our lives
430
00:28:05,225 --> 00:28:07,227
will ever experience
anything like
431
00:28:07,311 --> 00:28:10,189
what Dean experienced
relative to Alex Honnold.
432
00:28:10,272 --> 00:28:12,774
It makes for fun
sports journalism,
433
00:28:12,858 --> 00:28:15,152
but if you put yourself
in Dean's heart
434
00:28:15,235 --> 00:28:17,779
as someone who hangs your ego
on one or two little things,
435
00:28:17,863 --> 00:28:22,201
you hang your self-esteem on�
on a few fragile little hooks,
436
00:28:22,284 --> 00:28:25,078
it doesn't get any easier
as you get older.
437
00:28:25,162 --> 00:28:28,123
The�the blows only hurt more.
438
00:28:29,416 --> 00:28:31,251
And Honnold just kept going.
439
00:28:31,335 --> 00:28:35,297
The 2012 climbing season
in Yosemite.
440
00:28:35,380 --> 00:28:36,798
2012 was a big fucking year,
441
00:28:36,882 --> 00:28:38,926
because I basically
did everything
442
00:28:39,009 --> 00:28:41,720
that Dean had ever done
or wanted to do.
443
00:28:43,889 --> 00:28:45,515
And generally in better style
444
00:28:45,599 --> 00:28:48,393
and, you know, faster
and whatever.
445
00:28:48,477 --> 00:28:49,811
Yeah, poor Dean.
446
00:28:50,896 --> 00:28:52,481
In that period
in the Valley,
447
00:28:52,564 --> 00:28:55,359
Alex systematically demolishes
448
00:28:55,442 --> 00:28:57,819
Dean's records,
Dean's projects.
449
00:28:58,862 --> 00:29:02,574
Dean wanted to do this thing
called the triple linkup.
450
00:29:02,658 --> 00:29:04,368
Of course,
Honnold did it first.
451
00:29:04,451 --> 00:29:05,994
I rope soloed the triple�
452
00:29:06,078 --> 00:29:07,621
totally something that
Dean should have done
453
00:29:07,704 --> 00:29:08,789
if he thought he could.
454
00:29:08,872 --> 00:29:10,415
And then right after that,
455
00:29:10,499 --> 00:29:13,001
I broke Dean's speed record
on the nose on El Cap.
456
00:29:13,085 --> 00:29:17,673
Honnold teams up with Dean's
old nemesis, Hans Florine.
457
00:29:17,756 --> 00:29:19,716
Honnold called me and said,
458
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:21,927
"Dude, we're getting
this frickin' record."
459
00:29:22,010 --> 00:29:22,996
Come on, Alex!
460
00:29:23,011 --> 00:29:24,346
I was a little stunned
461
00:29:24,429 --> 00:29:28,642
that he was
so fiercely competitive.
462
00:29:28,725 --> 00:29:30,102
Yeah, I mean,
I'm competitive.
463
00:29:30,185 --> 00:29:31,603
You know, like, if I'm playing
somebody at ping pong,
464
00:29:31,687 --> 00:29:32,854
I want to win.
465
00:29:32,938 --> 00:29:35,148
We totally smoked it.
466
00:29:35,232 --> 00:29:37,651
Alex just obliterates
everything.
467
00:29:37,734 --> 00:29:39,653
There's almost a cruelty to it.
468
00:29:41,613 --> 00:29:43,490
It just happens
over and over again.
469
00:29:43,573 --> 00:29:47,327
The guy seeks out my projects
and�and does them before me,
470
00:29:47,411 --> 00:29:49,329
and I do nothing
to try to stop him.
471
00:29:49,413 --> 00:29:51,748
I think the most
brutal moment
472
00:29:51,832 --> 00:29:55,419
was when Alex repeated
the free solo of Heaven.
473
00:29:55,502 --> 00:29:58,171
Dean had free soloed
that super hard crack route
474
00:29:58,255 --> 00:29:59,339
where he got to the top,
475
00:29:59,423 --> 00:30:01,300
and he let out
this primal scream.
476
00:30:03,510 --> 00:30:05,429
He's proven himself
as a warrior
477
00:30:05,512 --> 00:30:07,347
and joined the demigods.
478
00:30:08,432 --> 00:30:10,642
Alex gets a call
from some tech company.
479
00:30:10,726 --> 00:30:12,060
They want to shoot
an ad with him.
480
00:30:12,144 --> 00:30:13,353
I have a website
because I need a way
481
00:30:13,437 --> 00:30:14,521
to put myself forward.
482
00:30:14,604 --> 00:30:16,064
Well, I could just do laps
up and down it
483
00:30:16,148 --> 00:30:17,774
so you guys could shoot it
a whole bunch of times.
484
00:30:17,858 --> 00:30:18,844
No big deal.
485
00:30:18,859 --> 00:30:19,859
I'm Alex Honnold,
486
00:30:19,901 --> 00:30:21,862
and this is my Squarespace.
487
00:30:21,945 --> 00:30:24,364
At some point,
I saw a voicemail on my phone
488
00:30:24,448 --> 00:30:27,909
from Dean that was
several minutes long,
489
00:30:27,993 --> 00:30:31,788
ranting about me
respecting his project,
490
00:30:31,872 --> 00:30:33,332
respecting my elders,
491
00:30:33,415 --> 00:30:35,834
and my lack of propriety
in�in climbing.
492
00:30:35,917 --> 00:30:38,712
I was like, oh, no.
It was all bad.
493
00:30:40,088 --> 00:30:41,506
But it was kind of like, OK,
494
00:30:41,590 --> 00:30:42,576
there's no more competition.
495
00:30:42,591 --> 00:30:43,717
It's just done.
496
00:30:48,221 --> 00:30:52,017
For Dean,
the writing was on the wall.
497
00:30:52,100 --> 00:30:56,313
The future had arrived,
and he was no longer it.
498
00:30:56,396 --> 00:30:57,647
So that's painful.
499
00:30:58,982 --> 00:31:05,405
Dean knew that his time as
the king of Yosemite was over.
500
00:31:05,489 --> 00:31:07,699
And I don't think
he could handle that.
501
00:31:09,284 --> 00:31:11,661
Dean was lost.
502
00:31:11,745 --> 00:31:12,871
It was one of those periods
503
00:31:12,954 --> 00:31:15,499
where he was
incredibly difficult.
504
00:31:17,084 --> 00:31:19,336
Eventually,
he would alienate himself
505
00:31:19,419 --> 00:31:21,088
from everyone in his life.
506
00:31:21,171 --> 00:31:22,672
I was, like, a reporter
for the mags,
507
00:31:22,756 --> 00:31:24,299
and I wrote this little
article about, like,
508
00:31:24,383 --> 00:31:26,093
what he was doing on El Cap.
509
00:31:26,176 --> 00:31:30,013
And he came up to me
and was like,
510
00:31:30,097 --> 00:31:31,598
"I need to talk to you, Cedar,"
511
00:31:31,681 --> 00:31:33,850
and, like, grabbed
the handlebars of my bike
512
00:31:33,934 --> 00:31:36,561
and just started pushing me
backwards away from the group,
513
00:31:36,645 --> 00:31:38,438
dude, and was basically like,
514
00:31:38,522 --> 00:31:40,982
"If you ever talk about
one of my projects again,
515
00:31:41,066 --> 00:31:43,527
like, I'm gonna
fucking kill you."
516
00:31:43,610 --> 00:31:44,986
Like, that was the vibe.
517
00:31:45,070 --> 00:31:46,613
And I was just like,
gulp, you know.
518
00:31:46,696 --> 00:31:47,739
You guys were friends.
519
00:31:47,823 --> 00:31:49,574
Dude, we were, like,
really good friends.
520
00:31:49,658 --> 00:31:52,077
And then, dude, he would
just snap on you, you know?
521
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:56,957
And that was the beginning
of the end for me
522
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,000
of my friendship with Dean.
523
00:31:59,084 --> 00:32:02,379
Over the years,
this is something that
524
00:32:02,462 --> 00:32:04,798
all friends of Dean endured�
525
00:32:04,881 --> 00:32:08,885
anger and frustration
and jealousy.
526
00:32:08,969 --> 00:32:13,390
Whatever thing inside him
that got triggered.
527
00:32:13,473 --> 00:32:16,810
I was the first of us
to break up with Dean.
528
00:32:18,186 --> 00:32:20,230
We did the raddest shit.
529
00:32:20,313 --> 00:32:21,648
Jimmy led us here.
530
00:32:21,731 --> 00:32:24,317
And it was the most fun
and most out there.
531
00:32:24,401 --> 00:32:27,821
I took a pretty nice whipper,
40 footer or something.
532
00:32:27,904 --> 00:32:28,905
I caught it.
533
00:32:28,989 --> 00:32:30,907
Jimmy caught it,
got throttled a little.
534
00:32:30,991 --> 00:32:33,994
But then when
I started to be recognized
535
00:32:34,077 --> 00:32:38,665
for my own climbing,
I became competition,
536
00:32:38,748 --> 00:32:40,542
and it's like, what?
537
00:32:40,625 --> 00:32:42,919
Like, what the fuck happened?
538
00:32:43,003 --> 00:32:44,713
I did try and be like,
539
00:32:44,796 --> 00:32:45,782
you know, like,
what's up, dude?
540
00:32:45,797 --> 00:32:46,882
Like, what's going on?
541
00:32:46,965 --> 00:32:49,509
"It's because I heard
you're taking all the credit."
542
00:32:49,593 --> 00:32:52,095
And I'm like, really? Like�
543
00:32:53,805 --> 00:32:57,017
Dean didn't know
how to share, basically,
544
00:32:57,100 --> 00:32:59,227
is what it comes down to.
545
00:32:59,311 --> 00:33:03,023
He did not know
how to be gracious
546
00:33:03,106 --> 00:33:06,193
with another person's light.
547
00:33:06,276 --> 00:33:07,944
I would see him all the time,
548
00:33:08,028 --> 00:33:09,362
but it was always like�
549
00:33:12,991 --> 00:33:14,618
You know, shields up.
550
00:33:14,701 --> 00:33:16,036
Gotta protect myself.
551
00:33:16,119 --> 00:33:17,454
What do you want?
552
00:33:17,537 --> 00:33:18,538
Dude.
553
00:33:18,622 --> 00:33:20,749
I want it to be easy.
554
00:33:22,667 --> 00:33:24,419
Yeah, Bradley.
555
00:33:24,503 --> 00:33:27,797
For me, the end of the road
was a certain point in time
556
00:33:27,881 --> 00:33:30,550
where, for years,
Dean and I had been
557
00:33:30,634 --> 00:33:35,680
working on this film project
that expresses his art.
558
00:33:35,764 --> 00:33:38,975
And he thought this was
gonna be a big deal.
559
00:33:39,059 --> 00:33:43,063
I think as his
climbing legacy was ending,
560
00:33:43,146 --> 00:33:46,983
this film was going to be
his redemption.
561
00:33:47,067 --> 00:33:49,569
He wanted, like,
a theatrical release.
562
00:33:49,653 --> 00:33:53,240
You know, he wanted
a�a orchestral score.
563
00:33:54,866 --> 00:33:56,451
And it just kept growing.
564
00:33:58,745 --> 00:34:01,331
It was incredibly taxing.
565
00:34:01,414 --> 00:34:02,457
He would get so mad.
566
00:34:02,541 --> 00:34:03,541
He would get so frustrated.
567
00:34:03,583 --> 00:34:05,710
We'd be editing
in my little bedroom.
568
00:34:05,794 --> 00:34:08,547
I made a cut that
he didn't want to make,
569
00:34:08,630 --> 00:34:11,883
and he was having
a psychotic fucking break.
570
00:34:11,967 --> 00:34:13,635
He grabbed me,
571
00:34:13,718 --> 00:34:15,470
and he fucking lifted me
out of that chair.
572
00:34:15,554 --> 00:34:17,889
Like, he just fucking
takes a swing,
573
00:34:17,973 --> 00:34:19,891
and he, like,
stops it on my nose.
574
00:34:19,975 --> 00:34:22,644
And he's, like,
pressing against my nose
575
00:34:22,727 --> 00:34:24,354
just to let me know.
576
00:34:27,023 --> 00:34:28,692
I don't know�
577
00:34:28,775 --> 00:34:29,901
I don't remember what I said,
578
00:34:29,985 --> 00:34:32,153
but in essence,
it was like, we're done.
579
00:34:32,237 --> 00:34:33,697
Take this equipment.
580
00:34:33,780 --> 00:34:34,766
Take the�take everything.
581
00:34:34,781 --> 00:34:35,767
We're done.
582
00:34:35,782 --> 00:34:39,035
I can't have this
in my life anymore.
583
00:34:39,119 --> 00:34:42,831
Like, it's not healthy.
584
00:34:42,914 --> 00:34:44,249
He just stormed out.
585
00:34:46,543 --> 00:34:48,670
A couple of days after,
he's like,
586
00:34:48,753 --> 00:34:51,423
"I want everything
you've ever shot.
587
00:34:51,506 --> 00:34:53,133
"It belongs to me.
588
00:34:53,216 --> 00:34:56,094
You sign off rights
to it forever."
589
00:34:56,177 --> 00:34:58,722
I was like, that sounds
fucking great, actually.
590
00:34:58,805 --> 00:35:02,976
So we have decided we aren't
working together anymore.
591
00:35:03,059 --> 00:35:04,102
Yeah.
592
00:35:04,185 --> 00:35:07,397
He had drawn up a document
signing over everything.
593
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,816
It says Brad Lynch
and Dean Potter,
594
00:35:09,899 --> 00:35:11,151
business separation.
595
00:35:11,234 --> 00:35:12,736
Brad Lynch releases
all his rights
596
00:35:12,819 --> 00:35:15,071
to all footage he ever shot
of Dean Potter.
597
00:35:15,155 --> 00:35:16,448
- Yep.
- Yep.
598
00:35:16,531 --> 00:35:18,742
He's like,
I'll give you $13,000.
599
00:35:18,825 --> 00:35:19,909
No bad-mouthing.
600
00:35:19,993 --> 00:35:22,912
Total nondisclosure about
creative process and conduct.
601
00:35:22,996 --> 00:35:24,998
The one exception is
talking to a therapist
602
00:35:25,081 --> 00:35:27,042
who has signed
a specific nondisclosure.
603
00:35:27,125 --> 00:35:28,835
I spent all of that money
604
00:35:28,918 --> 00:35:31,963
on just fucking
mental health care.
605
00:35:32,047 --> 00:35:34,132
Ten years I spent in therapy.
606
00:35:34,215 --> 00:35:35,634
Ten fucking years.
607
00:35:36,968 --> 00:35:42,807
Dean and I, we never
spoke again as friends.
608
00:35:49,147 --> 00:35:50,357
I'm sorry.
609
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:51,983
I just fucking�
610
00:35:56,446 --> 00:36:00,283
Over time, Dean lost
a lot of people in his life.
611
00:36:00,367 --> 00:36:03,119
His friends,
they're dropping out.
612
00:36:03,203 --> 00:36:04,189
Well, there you are.
613
00:36:04,204 --> 00:36:05,190
That's kind of cool.
614
00:36:05,205 --> 00:36:07,207
Aside from all
the emotional drama,
615
00:36:07,290 --> 00:36:09,501
you know,
I still believed in Dean.
616
00:36:09,584 --> 00:36:11,294
Yeah, I fucking love that guy.
617
00:36:11,378 --> 00:36:12,796
Your eye isn't�
618
00:36:12,879 --> 00:36:14,130
hits the screen.
619
00:36:14,214 --> 00:36:17,425
Sometimes it felt like
I was the last man standing.
620
00:36:17,509 --> 00:36:20,387
But I knew that
he needed support.
621
00:36:20,470 --> 00:36:22,097
He needed a friend.
622
00:36:24,724 --> 00:36:27,811
He hadn't had a serious
romantic relationship
623
00:36:27,894 --> 00:36:29,229
since Steph.
624
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:31,648
He said, "Hey, Winky."
625
00:36:31,731 --> 00:36:32,717
I go, "What?"
626
00:36:32,732 --> 00:36:34,484
He goes, "I need your help."
627
00:36:34,567 --> 00:36:35,568
I'm like, "What?"
628
00:36:35,652 --> 00:36:36,986
He goes, "I can't get laid."
629
00:36:37,070 --> 00:36:38,446
I'm like,
"How am I gonna help you?"
630
00:36:38,530 --> 00:36:39,614
"I just need to get laid."
631
00:36:39,698 --> 00:36:41,700
I go, "No, no, no,
you need a lot more than that.
632
00:36:41,783 --> 00:36:42,992
You're just lying to yourself."
633
00:36:43,076 --> 00:36:44,244
Right?
634
00:36:44,327 --> 00:36:46,871
I go, "Until you get yourself
square with yourself, dude,
635
00:36:46,955 --> 00:36:49,416
"it's�you're not gonna�
it's not gonna happen,
636
00:36:49,499 --> 00:36:54,129
or you're gonna make
some really serious mistakes."
637
00:36:55,547 --> 00:36:57,674
And that's when he got
involved with this woman.
638
00:36:59,259 --> 00:37:02,679
She was this cool,
intelligent person,
639
00:37:02,762 --> 00:37:05,974
but something wasn't right
with her mental health.
640
00:37:06,057 --> 00:37:07,434
You could tell.
641
00:37:09,352 --> 00:37:11,813
After, like,
a short period of time,
642
00:37:11,896 --> 00:37:15,483
Dean tried to end it,
but she wouldn't let go.
643
00:37:15,567 --> 00:37:18,069
And he continued to reject her.
644
00:37:21,906 --> 00:37:23,992
Dean comes back to his house,
645
00:37:24,075 --> 00:37:26,828
and there's her car
sitting in the driveway.
646
00:37:26,911 --> 00:37:28,663
And there she is
in the driver's seat,
647
00:37:28,747 --> 00:37:30,582
slumped over.
648
00:37:30,665 --> 00:37:32,959
She had taken
a bunch of barbiturates.
649
00:37:34,586 --> 00:37:37,672
Dean tried to resuscitate her,
called the rangers.
650
00:37:39,132 --> 00:37:42,218
By the time
the Park Service responded,
651
00:37:42,302 --> 00:37:44,262
she had passed.
652
00:37:51,436 --> 00:37:54,439
Imagine how it must
have felt to him.
653
00:37:57,484 --> 00:38:01,780
But honestly, he didn't even
ever talk about it.
654
00:38:01,863 --> 00:38:04,282
I was like, "Dude, what the�
what happened there?"
655
00:38:04,365 --> 00:38:06,367
He's like,
"She had some problems."
656
00:38:06,451 --> 00:38:07,451
And that was it.
657
00:38:07,494 --> 00:38:09,245
That was it.
658
00:38:09,329 --> 00:38:14,334
But I could tell
he was extremely agitated.
659
00:38:16,211 --> 00:38:19,422
I could see the turmoil,
the darkness.
660
00:38:19,506 --> 00:38:21,591
He was really fucking low.
661
00:38:24,052 --> 00:38:26,095
And understand,
this all happened
662
00:38:26,179 --> 00:38:29,265
two weeks before
he goes to China.
663
00:38:34,562 --> 00:38:37,148
Chinese state television
proposed that
664
00:38:37,232 --> 00:38:40,902
Dean come to China
to do these stunts.
665
00:38:42,654 --> 00:38:44,864
Slacklining
and BASE jumping.
666
00:38:46,991 --> 00:38:48,952
They're gonna put it
on live TV
667
00:38:49,035 --> 00:38:51,955
in this country
of a billion people.
668
00:38:52,038 --> 00:38:54,082
They were offering him
quite a bit of money.
669
00:38:54,165 --> 00:38:56,668
I believe it was $200,000 cash.
670
00:38:59,045 --> 00:39:00,880
Three, two, one.
671
00:39:03,174 --> 00:39:04,259
- OK.
- OK.
672
00:39:04,342 --> 00:39:06,553
He wants me
to come along and help out,
673
00:39:06,636 --> 00:39:07,971
film the process.
674
00:39:08,054 --> 00:39:10,932
I was like, "OK, OK,
cool, cool, cool," you know.
675
00:39:12,183 --> 00:39:14,143
But I'm thinking,
fuck, this guy is in
676
00:39:14,227 --> 00:39:17,063
a really weird
fucking headset.
677
00:39:17,146 --> 00:39:18,940
He's way too tense
678
00:39:19,023 --> 00:39:21,818
for anything good
to happen out of this.
679
00:39:21,901 --> 00:39:25,864
Immediately, they bring us
to a fucking Chinese Hooters.
680
00:39:25,947 --> 00:39:27,198
What's this?
681
00:39:27,282 --> 00:39:28,449
all: Hooters!
682
00:39:28,533 --> 00:39:29,909
Which is so weird.
683
00:39:29,993 --> 00:39:32,245
all: Hooters!
684
00:39:32,328 --> 00:39:35,790
Then we go to this
five-star hotel,
685
00:39:35,874 --> 00:39:37,500
and there's
a press conference.
686
00:39:40,003 --> 00:39:42,547
It was his 40th birthday
on that particular day.
687
00:39:42,630 --> 00:39:44,132
One, two, three.
688
00:39:44,215 --> 00:39:46,759
Happy birthday, Dean!
689
00:39:49,679 --> 00:39:51,180
How do you like that?
690
00:39:52,348 --> 00:39:55,310
We get to this place,
middle of nowhere in China,
691
00:39:55,393 --> 00:39:58,104
and there's these
incredible mountains.
692
00:39:58,187 --> 00:40:01,858
There's TV trucks
and people everywhere.
693
00:40:03,401 --> 00:40:05,862
There was Mike Beck,
Dean's lawyer,
694
00:40:05,945 --> 00:40:07,906
and Forrest, the translator.
695
00:40:07,989 --> 00:40:09,240
I'm Forrest Liu.
696
00:40:09,324 --> 00:40:12,827
I'm a climber
and a slackline walker.
697
00:40:12,911 --> 00:40:17,415
My job was to be Dean Potter's
translator and assistant.
698
00:40:17,498 --> 00:40:22,253
I feel so excited because, oh,
this is an American legend.
699
00:40:22,337 --> 00:40:26,883
Dean was, like, cool guy,
really friendly.
700
00:40:26,966 --> 00:40:29,302
He getting along
with the local villagers.
701
00:40:30,511 --> 00:40:33,181
But I can see
the situation for him,
702
00:40:33,264 --> 00:40:34,599
it's crazy.
703
00:40:34,682 --> 00:40:37,894
People and cameras everywhere.
704
00:40:37,977 --> 00:40:42,315
Dean has to deal with that
because they pay him.
705
00:40:42,398 --> 00:40:44,817
In the days leading up
to the big event,
706
00:40:44,901 --> 00:40:48,446
Chinese state television was
filming promotional content
707
00:40:48,529 --> 00:40:50,281
for the broadcast.
708
00:40:50,365 --> 00:40:53,034
So the first order of business
is a BASE jump.
709
00:40:53,117 --> 00:40:55,370
But there's all these
people up there
710
00:40:55,453 --> 00:40:58,081
swarming around
the cliff edge.
711
00:40:58,164 --> 00:41:00,333
One of the cameramen
from television
712
00:41:00,416 --> 00:41:03,753
called Beetle,
he's kind of a wild man.
713
00:41:03,836 --> 00:41:05,838
He makes everybody nervous.
714
00:41:12,428 --> 00:41:13,414
No, Beetle.
715
00:41:13,429 --> 00:41:14,415
Don't let him try. No.
716
00:41:14,430 --> 00:41:15,430
Beetle!
717
00:41:16,766 --> 00:41:18,017
You, Beetle.
718
00:41:18,101 --> 00:41:19,087
Hey, no, no, no.
719
00:41:19,102 --> 00:41:20,102
He could kill her.
720
00:41:21,437 --> 00:41:22,438
We got to calm
everything down.
721
00:41:22,522 --> 00:41:23,690
- Gotta calm down.
- No, stop it. Beetle.
722
00:41:23,773 --> 00:41:25,984
- I heard. I heard.
- You stay there.
723
00:41:26,067 --> 00:41:27,485
Hey, Beetle!
724
00:41:27,568 --> 00:41:29,904
Tell him I'm fucking serious,
and he's got to calm down.
725
00:41:34,367 --> 00:41:35,368
Come on.
726
00:41:35,451 --> 00:41:36,437
Go down.
727
00:41:36,452 --> 00:41:37,704
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
728
00:41:37,787 --> 00:41:40,248
Oh-ho-ho!
729
00:41:40,331 --> 00:41:41,317
Any good.
730
00:41:41,332 --> 00:41:46,045
Tell them I will say,
"Three, two, one, go."
731
00:41:46,129 --> 00:41:48,214
7, 6, 5.
732
00:41:48,297 --> 00:41:49,382
Tell me when.
733
00:41:49,465 --> 00:41:51,175
Wait, I can't�what?
734
00:41:51,259 --> 00:41:52,593
Hey, wait. OK, go.
735
00:41:52,677 --> 00:41:54,429
- I'm gonna count it.
- OK, count it.
736
00:41:54,512 --> 00:41:55,763
- Ready?
- Go.
737
00:41:55,847 --> 00:41:59,559
Three, two, one.
738
00:41:59,642 --> 00:42:01,102
See you.
739
00:42:05,523 --> 00:42:07,775
You know,
throughout his career,
740
00:42:07,859 --> 00:42:12,280
Dean had tried to straddle
an ethical divide
741
00:42:12,363 --> 00:42:17,076
between his art and commerce,
742
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:20,455
between pure motivation
and impure.
743
00:42:20,538 --> 00:42:21,956
Nice meeting you.
My name is Jackie.
744
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:23,082
- Nice meeting you too.
- Congratulations.
745
00:42:23,166 --> 00:42:24,500
- Thank you.
- What's the score?
746
00:42:24,584 --> 00:42:27,086
How would you score
your flight this time?
747
00:42:27,170 --> 00:42:29,297
I never score my flight.
748
00:42:30,298 --> 00:42:31,200
Why?
749
00:42:31,215 --> 00:42:34,260
I have no competition
or no scoring system.
750
00:42:34,343 --> 00:42:35,845
- OK.
- This is art.
751
00:42:35,928 --> 00:42:37,263
This is spirituality.
752
00:42:37,346 --> 00:42:38,765
Mr. Potter, sure.
753
00:42:38,848 --> 00:42:40,975
This is as commercial
as he can get,
754
00:42:41,059 --> 00:42:42,393
and he knew that.
755
00:42:42,477 --> 00:42:43,936
But he's still resisting it.
756
00:42:51,778 --> 00:42:53,863
Pretty outrageous out here.
757
00:42:55,031 --> 00:42:57,241
In a few days, on live TV,
758
00:42:57,325 --> 00:42:59,202
it's the main event.
759
00:42:59,285 --> 00:43:02,580
Dean's got to walk this
solo high line, no leash.
760
00:43:03,956 --> 00:43:06,918
The line was about 130 feet.
761
00:43:08,252 --> 00:43:11,380
It's longer than anything
he's ever soloed.
762
00:43:11,464 --> 00:43:13,591
And Dean out there
playing around on his line.
763
00:43:13,674 --> 00:43:17,261
He's gonna have to walk
this slackline on command.
764
00:43:17,345 --> 00:43:22,517
Hunan television station is
the most popular one in China,
765
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:24,977
and it's a live show.
766
00:43:25,061 --> 00:43:28,356
I think the organizers
were getting nervous.
767
00:43:28,439 --> 00:43:32,193
It can be a legend
or a disaster.
768
00:43:32,276 --> 00:43:36,614
And we notice there's
this huge cargo net laid out.
769
00:43:36,697 --> 00:43:38,199
So this is the net, huh?
770
00:43:38,282 --> 00:43:40,827
It was a safety net
to put below him.
771
00:43:40,910 --> 00:43:43,454
And Dean was like,
"What the fuck is this?
772
00:43:43,538 --> 00:43:44,705
What is this?"
773
00:43:44,789 --> 00:43:45,873
And they go, "Oh, well, we know
774
00:43:45,957 --> 00:43:47,959
"we want to put this net there
just to make sure.
775
00:43:48,042 --> 00:43:49,544
"You know,
we don't want you dying
776
00:43:49,627 --> 00:43:51,546
on Chinese state television."
777
00:43:51,629 --> 00:43:53,422
And Dean was like,
"I don't fucking need it.
778
00:43:53,506 --> 00:43:55,091
"No. No fucking way.
779
00:43:55,174 --> 00:43:57,802
I'm not a fucking
circus performer."
780
00:43:57,885 --> 00:44:00,513
And this is
a real deal for him.
781
00:44:00,596 --> 00:44:04,976
So the planners are like, "OK,
we won't use the safety net."
782
00:44:05,059 --> 00:44:06,936
So it looks like
they're trying to rig the net.
783
00:44:07,019 --> 00:44:09,897
But then we see them
installing the safety net.
784
00:44:09,981 --> 00:44:11,315
We need to know your plan.
785
00:44:11,399 --> 00:44:12,385
Yeah.
786
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:13,860
Like, are these guys�
787
00:44:13,943 --> 00:44:15,736
And they tell Dean,
"Don't worry.
788
00:44:15,820 --> 00:44:17,446
No one will know it's there."
789
00:44:19,532 --> 00:44:21,450
He goes into
this rant about how
790
00:44:21,534 --> 00:44:23,077
they're making him look stupid.
791
00:44:23,161 --> 00:44:24,161
What's going on?
792
00:44:24,203 --> 00:44:25,413
We've done everything
we've said,
793
00:44:25,496 --> 00:44:27,331
and they keep lying to us.
794
00:44:27,415 --> 00:44:30,126
I've done everything�
I told the truth.
795
00:44:30,209 --> 00:44:35,464
And now, you know, I had to lie
on the fucking radio sta�
796
00:44:35,548 --> 00:44:37,008
on the TV station right there.
797
00:44:37,091 --> 00:44:38,759
I'm not gonna lie anymore.
798
00:44:38,843 --> 00:44:39,843
You know,
I'm gonna tell everybody
799
00:44:39,886 --> 00:44:41,971
there's a big fucking net
underneath me,
800
00:44:42,054 --> 00:44:44,807
like, and that Hunan is
a bunch of fucking liars.
801
00:44:46,142 --> 00:44:48,102
I was kind of the middleman.
802
00:44:48,186 --> 00:44:50,897
If I translate directly
to Chinese,
803
00:44:50,980 --> 00:44:52,356
everything gonna be messed up.
804
00:44:55,985 --> 00:44:58,654
Meanwhile,
the money was supposed to be
805
00:44:58,738 --> 00:45:01,991
in the escrow account
back in the United States,
806
00:45:02,074 --> 00:45:05,328
and the guaranteed payment
has not been paid.
807
00:45:05,411 --> 00:45:07,163
And he says,
"No money? That's it.
808
00:45:07,246 --> 00:45:08,581
I'm out of here."
809
00:45:11,876 --> 00:45:12,862
Sorry.
810
00:45:12,877 --> 00:45:13,863
Bye-bye.
811
00:45:13,878 --> 00:45:15,087
So.
812
00:45:15,171 --> 00:45:16,214
No, bye-bye.
813
00:45:16,297 --> 00:45:17,340
Bye-bye.
814
00:45:17,423 --> 00:45:18,633
- We go home now.
- Yeah, yeah.
815
00:45:18,716 --> 00:45:20,134
I know. Go.
816
00:45:20,218 --> 00:45:21,204
Bye-bye.
817
00:45:21,219 --> 00:45:22,929
Bye-bye.
818
00:45:23,012 --> 00:45:25,640
Nobody want him
go back to America.
819
00:45:25,723 --> 00:45:27,266
That's OK.
820
00:45:27,350 --> 00:45:28,726
I go bye-bye.
821
00:45:28,809 --> 00:45:31,229
So I have to try
to calm him down.
822
00:45:35,316 --> 00:45:37,026
Dean digs his heels in
there and says,
823
00:45:37,109 --> 00:45:40,780
"Look, either I get the money
or I'm done with this thing."
824
00:45:40,863 --> 00:45:45,117
Sure enough, they bring in
duffel bags stuffed with cash.
825
00:45:46,494 --> 00:45:49,121
That was all very mafia.
826
00:45:49,205 --> 00:45:52,500
Now he's got his money,
and there's no net.
827
00:45:57,255 --> 00:45:58,714
Before he solos this thing,
828
00:45:58,798 --> 00:46:01,384
he's got a few days
to practice with his leash,
829
00:46:01,467 --> 00:46:03,219
and he would try
to walk the line.
830
00:46:22,363 --> 00:46:23,823
And he couldn't.
831
00:46:25,700 --> 00:46:27,285
He was nervous.
832
00:46:27,368 --> 00:46:28,619
Breathe.
833
00:46:32,373 --> 00:46:34,375
And we were talking,
"This is not
834
00:46:34,458 --> 00:46:36,585
"the master we saw
in the movie.
835
00:46:36,669 --> 00:46:37,837
What's going on?"
836
00:46:46,595 --> 00:46:49,849
He kept falling and falling.
837
00:46:51,767 --> 00:46:53,853
When he was trying
to practice,
838
00:46:53,936 --> 00:46:56,105
there are tons of cameramen.
839
00:46:56,188 --> 00:46:58,983
It was hard for him to focus.
840
00:46:59,066 --> 00:47:00,318
Go away.
841
00:47:00,401 --> 00:47:02,403
Go away. Go away.
842
00:47:10,661 --> 00:47:13,247
Dean could not
walk that line.
843
00:47:13,331 --> 00:47:14,373
But he had no choice.
844
00:47:14,457 --> 00:47:15,958
He had to walk the line.
845
00:47:21,255 --> 00:47:22,757
If you fall
right at the beginning,
846
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:25,885
it's not too bad
to catch and save yourself.
847
00:47:27,011 --> 00:47:28,346
But toward the middle,
848
00:47:28,429 --> 00:47:31,557
something that long�
849
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:33,017
it gets wobbly.
850
00:47:34,643 --> 00:47:37,897
Definitely, like,
way harder to catch.
851
00:47:42,276 --> 00:47:45,071
Without the leash,
if you miss the line,
852
00:47:45,154 --> 00:47:46,697
you're in the void.
853
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:54,106
Whoa.
854
00:47:54,121 --> 00:47:56,374
Dean was so fucking stressed.
855
00:47:58,918 --> 00:48:02,004
And he goes,
"OK, so where's the butt weed?"
856
00:48:02,088 --> 00:48:03,547
And I was like, "What?"
857
00:48:03,631 --> 00:48:05,883
He goes,
"The butt weed�you know,
858
00:48:05,966 --> 00:48:07,802
the weed that you put up
your butt to bring over here."
859
00:48:07,885 --> 00:48:09,804
I go, "I didn't put any weed
up my butt, dude."
860
00:48:11,597 --> 00:48:12,932
He tore into me.
861
00:48:14,683 --> 00:48:16,560
He told me how worthless I was.
862
00:48:18,479 --> 00:48:21,399
I'm lazy,
and what a mistake it was
863
00:48:21,482 --> 00:48:23,192
to bring me here.
864
00:48:24,568 --> 00:48:28,322
And I just ran into my room,
865
00:48:28,406 --> 00:48:31,951
and I just started to cry.
866
00:48:33,494 --> 00:48:36,956
I never felt so betrayed.
867
00:48:38,707 --> 00:48:42,002
Like�
868
00:48:42,086 --> 00:48:44,839
I gave him everything I had.
869
00:48:51,262 --> 00:48:54,640
The next morning was
the day of the live event.
870
00:48:56,767 --> 00:48:58,310
How do you feel now?
871
00:48:58,394 --> 00:49:01,355
Um, I feel�
just trying to relax.
872
00:49:01,439 --> 00:49:02,565
It's, like, totally unknown
873
00:49:02,648 --> 00:49:04,525
whether I make it across
or not.
874
00:49:20,958 --> 00:49:22,084
I'm looking at Dean,
875
00:49:22,168 --> 00:49:25,171
and I could see him
collapsing inside.
876
00:49:25,254 --> 00:49:28,090
I could see it,
like, in his eyes.
877
00:49:29,341 --> 00:49:30,468
It's not there.
878
00:49:30,551 --> 00:49:33,304
He doesn't have it that day.
879
00:49:33,387 --> 00:49:35,264
And Dean looks at me and goes,
"OK, Winky,
880
00:49:35,347 --> 00:49:37,766
"if I fucking fall, right,
you come down.
881
00:49:37,850 --> 00:49:39,560
"You don't let anyone
touch my body.
882
00:49:39,643 --> 00:49:40,644
"You take care of me.
883
00:49:40,728 --> 00:49:42,146
You're gonna take care
of me, right?"
884
00:49:42,229 --> 00:49:43,689
And I'm like, "Yeah, dude,
I'm gonna take care of you.
885
00:49:43,772 --> 00:49:45,232
"Right?
It's not a problem, man.
886
00:49:45,316 --> 00:49:46,734
You're my�you're my brother."
887
00:49:50,070 --> 00:49:53,908
It was just everything bad
coming to a head.
888
00:49:53,991 --> 00:49:55,534
How do you feel now?
889
00:49:55,618 --> 00:49:57,703
I'm just trying
to calm myself.
890
00:49:57,786 --> 00:49:59,872
I was just thinking,
891
00:49:59,955 --> 00:50:05,085
this is a guy that gave
everything to master his arts,
892
00:50:05,169 --> 00:50:07,546
and now this is it?
893
00:50:09,006 --> 00:50:12,760
Risking your life for
a couple fistful of dollars?
894
00:50:25,397 --> 00:50:27,733
Everybody is suddenly quiet,
895
00:50:27,816 --> 00:50:30,194
like the whole world
is frozen.
896
00:50:31,862 --> 00:50:35,324
That's more than 100 million
people are watching.
897
00:51:30,170 --> 00:51:31,922
Out in the middle
of the line,
898
00:51:32,006 --> 00:51:34,633
it starts to look wobbly.
899
00:51:39,305 --> 00:51:40,764
And I'm like, fuck.
900
00:51:42,182 --> 00:51:45,060
I was just fucking willing.
901
00:52:34,693 --> 00:52:36,195
He fucking stuck that thing.
902
00:52:51,794 --> 00:52:53,879
So he gets to the end
of this line,
903
00:52:53,962 --> 00:52:56,965
and on this live feed,
904
00:52:57,049 --> 00:52:59,176
we can hear him sobbing.
905
00:53:12,731 --> 00:53:14,024
- Wow.
- Wow.
906
00:53:21,615 --> 00:53:25,285
He had just gone
to the deepest, darkest place
907
00:53:25,369 --> 00:53:28,038
he possibly could
to stay alive.
908
00:53:31,500 --> 00:53:34,044
But he had lost touch
with himself
909
00:53:34,128 --> 00:53:38,257
as an artist and a friend.
910
00:53:39,758 --> 00:53:43,971
It's like�
he made it across the line,
911
00:53:44,054 --> 00:53:46,390
but he was a broken man.
69819
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