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Previously on Picket Fences.
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I've retrieved what appears to be a
right middle or ring finger severed at
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second joint.
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Maybe we should turn you loose and let
the mob outside deal with you. You can't
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do this. We can do whatever we want.
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We're the cops.
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The discovery of the body would be
fruits of a poisonous tree.
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I may have no choice.
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but to dismiss the charges.
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When I come back, the three of you are
going to tell me the brilliant plan
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you've devised to keep that bastard in
jail. You've got to figure it out!
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Mr. Latham, you are going to trial.
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If the Supreme Court has a problem with
that, they can come and get me.
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We've got two choices.
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The right to the appellate court, try to
overturn Judge Bone, get your statement
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and the evidence suppressed, or try this
case right now, which I think we should
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do. Why?
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Because our chances of a conviction are
better the sooner we go.
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We've got all our evidence except for
the weapon, and if we haven't found that
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by now... What about DNA?
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Well, all the blood we found was hers.
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Hair and fiber go to her, him, and in
the car, her family.
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It's not airtight.
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Exactly. It's circumstantial.
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That's why I'd like to try it while it's
still fresh in the jury's head. Time
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can only help the defense.
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Then why does Wombo want to go now?
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Because I could take advantage of the
short investigation.
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I can argue that they didn't take the
time to look for anybody else.
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It'll play into reasonable doubt.
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Plus, this trial is a free shot for us.
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See, if they lose, they can still get it
overturned on constitutional grounds.
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If they win, the state can't appeal an
acquittal. The man walks.
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It's a free bite for him. Wambaugh knows
what he's doing.
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Do we?
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Appellate courts are less likely to
overturn a trial than they are a
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If we can get a conviction now, we make
his chance on appeal much tougher.
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I say we go.
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I say we go.
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Do I have a chance?
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Yes. No.
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Our case is circumstantial, but it's
very strong.
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He can't win.
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I cannot lose this guy.
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We won't.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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Okay. You like murder trials, Kimberly?
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This is going to be a good one.
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Home Sheriff Department is a joke.
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It frustrates me.
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If they knew how to collect evidence,
they'd have caught the real killer. Mr.
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Wambaugh likes to try these cases in the
media where he's free to make up the
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facts. He says this because I'm Jewish.
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He comes in here today with nothing but
public pressure to get a conviction.
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Yeah, well, you'll see what we've got.
I'm getting goosebumps.
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I'd appreciate it if you didn't attack
my father in the press.
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Kimberly, the media has taken away the
presumption of innocence.
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I have to use the spotlight to get it
back.
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You ready?
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I think so.
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Remember, they'll probably introduce the
pictures early. Look horrified to see
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them. The jury has to see that they
shock you like anybody else.
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It's not imperative that you look, but I
want you in the room.
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I want the jury to be reminded of your
tragedy.
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Do we have to be here for the whole
trial?
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I prefer it.
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Emotion cuts in our favor.
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I've got your parents, a sister, your
grandmother, and an uncle you've never
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met.
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My family is coming? And for the purpose
of this trial, you're close -knit.
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The jury cannot see it otherwise.
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How'd you get them to show up?
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You're their only son.
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Will they testify?
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Not a chance.
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If he puts up any character witness,
then we are free to impeach with our
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witnesses. And I've got about 20.
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I even have a teenage girl that was
threatened by him at knife point two
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ago. What?
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But I can't use it.
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The law says we can't talk about
previous bad acts to convince the jury
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this one.
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Wait a second. Now, this guy attacked
another girl with a knife.
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And we can't tell the jury about it?
That's right.
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But if they try to argue that he's a
good guy, we can roll out our impeaching
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witnesses. This girl included.
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See, Wanbao knows that.
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He won't put this guy's parents up or
anybody to even hint about his
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Then what's our case?
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The state has the burden to make the
case.
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I just have to shoot holes in it, and I
will.
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The worst thing is those pictures.
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They're some of the most graphic images
I've ever seen.
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I apologize for having to show them to
you. They'll be difficult to look at,
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you must look at them.
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The testimonial evidence will show that
Susan Ingram's was stabbed 11 times, but
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you cannot know the violent savagery
unless you look
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the prosecution will show beyond all
reasonable doubt that the person
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responsible for this repulsive carnage
is brian latham the man sitting right
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over there that concludes my opening
statement
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i
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would ask first
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When you go home tonight, let us all say
a prayer for Susan
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Ingram's and her family.
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Nobody here can feel their pain.
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This judicial proceeding can never make
them whole.
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The prosecution has laid a setting of a
horrible tragedy.
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Savagery. The defense does not dispute
this, but we do take issue with their
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conclusion as to who is responsible.
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It wasn't Brian Latham.
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When the prosecution searched for a
witness, they drew a blank.
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They looked for a motive.
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Blank.
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They searched for a weapon?
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Nothing.
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They combed my client's person and
property for bloodstains and forensic
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evidence.
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Any evidence at all that would connect
Brian Latham to violence?
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Nothing. As to their efforts to find the
person who really was responsible for
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this murder,
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Mr. Littleton has shown you the victim.
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I've shown you their case.
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Time of death, cause of death, absence
of other hair or fibers on the body, in
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the car, or at the scene.
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Chuck and Carter, make sure your voice
works, okay? We're not going to get a
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conviction if you sound like a damn
chipmunk again.
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Why are you so nervous?
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Because Wambaugh opened great, that's
why.
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Then you go up.
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You're going to cover all the prints,
the tire tracks, the footprints, and
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corroborate the store owner's statement.
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Then I put you up, Kenny. You are
critical. Me, me, me.
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Carter.
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His pointing you to where the body was
is the linchpin.
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His demeanor, his look of contrition,
guilt, his sense of wanting redemption
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a crime he knew he committed, his
feeling of remorse for taking a human
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These are the things you saw in that
cell, and these are the things you must
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make that jury see.
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Moving over it.
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Okay.
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There's one other thing we gotta talk
about.
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Now, I don't mean to be critical, but
this is a reality that we're dealing
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The Sheriff's Department is perceived to
be terrible and largely that perception
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is accurate.
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Your investigational habits are shoddy.
There is a shocking lack of professional
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credibility in the personnel.
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Kenny, your intelligence... doesn't
translate.
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Juries tend to think of you as simple.
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Officer Stewart, you were thought of as
intelligent and thorough, but also
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erratic.
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And Carter, where do I begin with you?
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What's your point?
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My point is, every case I prosecute is
hampered by the credibility of this
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branch.
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Now, there are some pluses.
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The people know and trust you.
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And one of the reasons I didn't try to
kick venue is because in another town,
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potential jurors might not extend the
same personal trust that comes from
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knowing you. They'd only focus on the
professional incompetence. We're not
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incompetent. Look, I don't mean to
attack you, but I have to make you aware
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this reality so that you're prepared to
beat it.
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When you get up on that stand, I want to
see authority.
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Carter, you are a great medical
examiner. Make that jury know that.
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Kenny, you're clear -headed. Be precise
and decisive when you're in that witness
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chair.
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A district attorney can only play his
hand, and you people are my hand.
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Now, I want that jury to know this son
of a bitch is guilty because you know
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You three know it.
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So, if you think he did it,
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then why are you helping him?
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You have to understand, Zach, even
guilty defendants are entitled to a
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and a fair trial.
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Why?
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Well, I see.
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The state has to prove guilt before they
can lock somebody up.
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The defense attorneys have to make sure
that the burden of proof is met in every
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case.
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It's all about protecting our system of
justice.
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So when defense attorneys represent
guilty people, they're nevertheless
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protecting the system.
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And by doing that, the innocent are
served.
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Do you understand?
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No. You will when you're old enough.
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He killed somebody, and you're helping
him.
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How old do I have to get?
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Wambaugh is using you.
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The jury knows the sheriff's daughter is
sitting at the defense table.
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They probably know you were friends with
Susan Ingram.
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You're being used.
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Time of death can't be fixed positive
since the decomposition process is
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affected by the body being in water, the
temperature of which was 54 degrees
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Fahrenheit. But through forensics,
entomology, rigor mortis, and post
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changes, I can fix death between 1 and 4
a .m. Now, I should like to explain...
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Objection!
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Too boring.
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We'll agree that she died between 1 and
4 a .m. So stipulated.
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Were you able to determine the cause of
death, Dr. Pike?
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Yes, I was.
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Excuse me.
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It was death by stabbing.
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The victim received multiple wounds from
a seven -inch serrated blade. The fatal
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blow being a stab wound to the heart
itself.
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I'd like to show you a picture of the
victim... We'll stipulate that the girl
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was killed with a big knife.
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I would like to be able to offer my
evidence... You just want to show the
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pictures off to shock the jury.
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I agree.
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Move on, Mr. Littleton.
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What about the severing of the finger,
Dr. Pike?
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Oh, yes.
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This appeared to be a pre -mortem
incision.
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Judging from the cuts on the dorsal side
of the arms and the palms, it appeared
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the victim tried to defend herself
inside the car. It was during the
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that I think the middle left finger was
in fact severed.
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And is there anything else that these
wounds told you, Dr. Pike, aside from
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cause of death?
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Yes, that this was an extremely primal
and brutal killing.
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This woman was butchered.
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It was the most gruesome autopsy ever in
my professional experience.
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Thank you, Dr. Pike.
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Nothing further.
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Dr. Pike, do any of your medical
findings connect this crime to Brian
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Latham?
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My medical findings?
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No.
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Thank you.
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That's the man, all right. He bought the
beer and then he got right into her
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car. And what time was that, sir?
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Just after 11.
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And when I closed up at 12 .30, his
truck was still parked in my lot.
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And are you sure it was this man and the
victim Susan Ingrams?
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Positive.
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You said to the police my client looked
normal, even friendly.
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Yes, I did.
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And after observing my client's
behavior... You had no reason to think
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Susan Agrams was in danger, did you?
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Well, no.
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In fact, you never called the police.
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Nothing seemed wrong. Is that correct?
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Yes, I guess that's so. Thank you, sir.
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Nothing further?
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You may step down.
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The people call Elaine the fever.
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Objection!
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Sidebar.
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We've been through this.
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She's excluded.
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Just open the door on character
testimony, Your Honor. What?
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He got Mr. Emanuel to testify that the
defendant was normal and friendly. He
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character on issue. He cross -examined
on what Mr. Emanuel saw.
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The witness is excluded. It also goes to
pattern, Your Honor. This man attacked
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this girl at knife point. The witness is
excluded.
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Damn it, Your Honor.
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I don't think you meant to do that.
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I'm trying to put on a case here.
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Fine. Do it, but you can't put witnesses
up to establish that the defendant is a
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bad person Now get back
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Does
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it bother you we're trying
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to free a man who committed murder He
never told me he's guilty
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you never asked him
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I know this may be difficult to
understand, but it would have been wrong
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to ask.
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I did what a good defense attorney is
supposed to do.
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And that's what's hard to understand,
that it's proper procedure for lawyers
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navigate around the truth.
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The system of justice, Kimberly, doesn't
always mean that the player should act
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justly. Take the Lefevre girl.
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When John Littleton called her as a
witness, he knew Judge Bone would deny
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But by calling her, the jury got to see
that there was somebody else who had
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something to say for the prosecution.
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They get the impression there's more to
tell than they're being told.
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It's cheating.
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Not much, just a little sleight of hand.
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We all do it because we know the other
guys are going to do it and we don't
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them to have the edge.
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Judge Bone was right. It's all about
winning and losing.
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Well, the truth is supposed to be a
product of the adversary process.
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So yes, that means both sides try to win
at all costs.
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Even when it means we're trying to free
a guilty killer.
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I try not to ask myself such tricky
questions.
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All hair and fibers found in the car
belonged either to the victim, the
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family members who also drove the car,
or the defendant.
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The defendant?
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Yes. Several strands of hair found on
the victim or in her car matched the
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samples taken from Brian Latham.
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We also found slight skin fragments
under her fingernails that were an
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genetic match with the defendant.
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You have an established foundation for
this witness to give DNA evidence.
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In the spirit of cooperation.
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will stipulate that the hair, skin, and
clothing fibers probably came from my
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client. Well, this all happened during a
brief wrestling match where my client
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unsuccessfully tried for sex.
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Move to strike.
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Sustained.
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The jury will disregard defense
counsel's last statement.
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Move on.
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What other evidence did you find,
deputy?
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The only tire tracks leading to the pond
were those of the victim's car, meaning
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whoever committed the murder probably
drove in the victim's car to the swamp,
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dumped the body, then drove the car back
to where it was discovered the
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following morning on Prospect Road.
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And did you find any footprints at the
pond site?
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We did.
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And they matched the shoes being worn by
the defendant at the time we arrested
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him. And were there any other prints to
suggest that someone else had been
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around? No, there were not.
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And were there any hairs or fibers found
on the person of the victim that did
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not come from either the victim or the
defendant?
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No, there were not.
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Thank you, Deputy.
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I have nothing further.
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When you arrested my client, you checked
his person, his truck, and motel room
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for physical evidence, didn't you?
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Yes.
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Did you find any?
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No.
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Nothing? Not even a spattering of blood?
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Not anything?
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No. You never found a murder weapon?
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No, we did not.
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Eyewitnesses? No.
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What a thing.
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Before Susan Ingrins left the house on a
night of questions, do you know what
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happened?
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She was involved in an argument with her
parents. An angry argument, according
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to the statement that they made to the
police.
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And you say you found their hair and
fibers in her car.
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Maybe they found her and killed her.
Objection, counsel.
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It's just a theory, I know.
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Did you explore this possibility, Deputy
Stewart?
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No, we did not.
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Why not?
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There was no evidence indicating any
involvement by the parents.
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You didn't even consider that it could
be anybody else, did you, Deputy?
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All the evidence pointed to him. All the
evidence you bothered to collect.
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Under oath, Deputy Stewart, there's been
a lot of public pressure for you to
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solve this crime, hasn't there?
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Public hysteria does not compromise our
investigation.
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I again remind you that you are under
oath.
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When you interrogated Brian Latham...
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Did you say to him, you won't get a fair
trial.
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Somebody's going to pay for what
happened to this girl.
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If you're the only suspect we offer up,
then it'll be you, whether you're
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innocent or not.
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Did you say that, deputy?
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That was in the context of an
interrogation. He told you he was
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And you responded, it doesn't matter.
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Somebody has to be blamed. And then you
said, we're the cops.
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We can do anything we want.
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We were doing a good cop, bad cop thing.
You said it, didn't you?
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Yes. But you don't understand.
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Thank you.
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But I think I do.
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I can't take this. I just cannot take
this anymore.
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First, you violate the Constitution.
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Now, the case should have been kicked on
that screw -up. And now this?
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I cannot take... You tell the defendant
that he will not get a fair trial. It
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doesn't matter if he's innocent or not.
The jury's going to convict him anyway?
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It was a tactic.
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A tactic?
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It was a tact... Oh, it was a tactic.
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We dispense with the Constitution as a
tactic. We threaten unfair trials as a
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tactic. These are the tactics of the
Rome, Wisconsin Sheriff's Department.
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I have had it. John. No, a killer's
going to walk, Sheriff.
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Don't defend them.
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Take responsibility.
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Their behavior is a reflection on you,
and right now your whole damn
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department's a joke.
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I'm a joke.
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We are the team responsible for letting
a murderer walk.
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Turn on the newscast tomorrow night and
just listen to what all the commentators
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are saying about all of us. And if that
doesn't sink in, try.
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Just try making eye contact with Susan
Ingram's parents.
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Their daughter was chopped into pieces
and the man who's responsible is going
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go free because of our incompetence.
This isn't over yet.
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There's still Kenny's testimony.
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Imagine the confidence I get from that.
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Nothing is helped by this.
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Deputy Lacos, tomorrow, tomorrow I put
the whole prosecution in your hands.
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Unexpected surprises are the best.
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Not to me.
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Get out.
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You're a character.
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I'm also the judge in the case you're
trying.
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Don't you know what ex parte is? Of
course I do. It's Latin.
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00:23:45,940 --> 00:23:49,020
But when I saw you eating, I thought you
might want company.
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Social. Wrong again.
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Get out.
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You know, Henry...
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Not to discuss the facts, because I know
I cannot do that.
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But what a cross I had today.
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Would Max understand any lawyer could
only hope to have one cross like that in
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career? I could actually get this guy
off.
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00:24:07,870 --> 00:24:09,230
You must be very proud.
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Back when I started practice, I would
actually get aroused by success in the
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courtroom.
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00:24:17,330 --> 00:24:20,370
Sexually stimulated. Not a lot, but a
little.
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00:24:22,700 --> 00:24:26,940
I'm so happy you're sharing this. This
all happened when I was in my 20s.
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I won a lot of cases since then. It's
become routine.
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00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:37,080
But today when I crossed Max, and when
she admitted to those things that she
403
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,800
said in the interrogation, what a rush.
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00:24:40,540 --> 00:24:42,240
I felt a little tingle.
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00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,100
Not much, just a little.
406
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:47,440
I had a moment, Henry.
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00:24:52,780 --> 00:24:57,620
You must admit that the practice of law
can be a very gratifying thing.
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00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:09,420
Boy, do I need a housekeeper.
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00:25:15,140 --> 00:25:16,140
Boy's gone?
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00:25:16,360 --> 00:25:18,040
Yeah, they left early. They wanted to
walk.
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00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:23,660
Shouldn't you be going to school?
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I'm in court. The teachers know.
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Shouldn't miss a whole week.
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00:25:29,420 --> 00:25:30,420
What's the problem, Daddy?
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00:25:30,860 --> 00:25:34,460
You don't want me sitting at Wambaugh's
table. I get it. But don't come at me
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sideways with the school thing.
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00:25:36,120 --> 00:25:38,020
Don't talk to me with that tone.
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00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:39,800
My tone is honest. All right.
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You want me out of that courtroom so the
jury might think that I abandoned the
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00:25:43,700 --> 00:25:45,450
defense. So how about this, Daddy?
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00:25:45,650 --> 00:25:49,090
How about I go to court, announce Brian
Latham is guilty, and then I'll go to
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school? I told you to drop that tone.
What about the tone I've been getting
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00:25:52,370 --> 00:25:54,390
you all week? I haven't even been able
to look at you in my class to talk to
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you. Jimmy, I'm an adult now.
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00:25:55,690 --> 00:25:58,350
I don't need... You're a little
sensitive because you are ashamed of
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are doing.
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00:25:59,010 --> 00:26:02,430
You should be ashamed of trying to take
advantage of... I am ashamed. I'm
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ashamed of my daughter. Jim! Go to hell!
429
00:26:08,570 --> 00:26:10,090
I knew he believed in God.
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And I asked him, as a believer in God,
As a believer that every Christian
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deserves a proper burial, I asked him to
tell me where that body lay.
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And his response?
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At first, he just looked down.
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So I asked him to think about her
parents.
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I asked him to make things right.
436
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I asked him again, make things right.
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That's when he told me.
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Told you where to look.
439
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Exactly. We then proceeded to the
destination and retrieved the corpse.
440
00:26:37,890 --> 00:26:41,250
And did Brian Latham admit to killing
Susan Ingram?
441
00:26:41,610 --> 00:26:44,290
He didn't say it in words, but he made
it clear.
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He put that girl in the swamp.
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Thank you, Deputy.
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00:26:49,650 --> 00:26:50,650
I have nothing further.
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00:26:53,810 --> 00:26:55,390
Are you a mind reader, Kenny?
446
00:26:56,110 --> 00:26:57,150
No, sir, I'm not.
447
00:26:57,490 --> 00:27:00,850
Yet you say that my client made
something clear without words.
448
00:27:01,690 --> 00:27:03,110
What'd you do, play charades?
449
00:27:04,330 --> 00:27:08,050
All I can say, Counsel, is that
communication isn't limited to words.
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sir... May I finish my response, please?
No.
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00:27:11,749 --> 00:27:18,230
Yes Go ahead He was careful not to say
it exactly but I was in that room
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I do why we looked at each other
Catholic the Catholic we knew we had to
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the truth and He told me where the body
was.
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He was admitting to me that he killed
her.
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00:27:29,570 --> 00:27:30,770
Did he say it with words?
456
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No Did he say it?
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Yes, he did So, we have to assume the
body language skills of Kenny Lockers. I
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was the only person in the room with
him. You can't contradict me because you
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00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:47,920
weren't there. And I'm telling you and
everybody in this room, that man killed
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Susan Ingrams.
461
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Objection. Sustained.
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That remark is stricken. Any more
questions, Mr. Wambaugh?
463
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:55,040
No, Your Honor.
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Nothing further.
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The witness may step down.
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00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:10,680
We just got hurt.
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Kenny was good.
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00:28:13,060 --> 00:28:15,560
So what happens now? I think we gotta
testify.
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Now, you listen to me very carefully,
Mr. Latham. Your life depends on it.
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Follow this.
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If you don't testify, we will lose.
472
00:28:25,420 --> 00:28:26,420
Now, that's simple.
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Here's where it's complicated.
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As your lawyer, I have an obligation to
say that you must tell the truth.
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If I know you're going to lie, I have a
duty to either not put you up there...
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or to let you testify in the narrative
only, in which case the jury will figure
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00:28:42,980 --> 00:28:43,879
things out.
478
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:47,720
The best thing would be, of course, for
me to believe that you didn't kill Susan
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Ingrams. Then I would have no ethical
problem putting you on the stand.
480
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:52,520
You with me?
481
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I think so.
482
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,440
So I'm now going to ask you for the
first time.
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Did you kill Susan Ingrams?
484
00:29:01,860 --> 00:29:03,380
No, I did not.
485
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:07,560
Excellent. Now here are the problem
areas you must explore. Kimberly?
486
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Fragments of your skin found under her
fingernail. You said you briefly
487
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with her. A little sexual foreplay.
488
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:17,080
Perhaps it got rough and she scratched
you.
489
00:29:17,500 --> 00:29:18,500
I don't know.
490
00:29:18,740 --> 00:29:19,980
It's for you to think about.
491
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:24,360
Kimberly. Your footprints at the scene,
you're knowing where the body was.
492
00:29:25,020 --> 00:29:26,140
That's their whole case.
493
00:29:26,580 --> 00:29:29,560
If you can satisfy these questions, we
still have a chance.
494
00:29:30,300 --> 00:29:35,020
Remember, you have an obligation to tell
the truth at all times, of course. Of
495
00:29:35,020 --> 00:29:36,020
course.
496
00:29:36,500 --> 00:29:37,620
Very important.
497
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:44,620
If Mr. Littleton traps you on cross, if
he catches you in any misstatement, it's
498
00:29:44,620 --> 00:29:48,080
probably because this whole thing is so
upsetting that you'll get confused.
499
00:29:48,900 --> 00:29:52,040
Imagine being accused of such a horrible
crime.
500
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:53,700
Whose mind wouldn't be affected?
501
00:29:54,060 --> 00:29:54,939
I got you.
502
00:29:54,940 --> 00:29:55,940
Good.
503
00:29:56,340 --> 00:30:00,380
So tell me, what happened after the two
of you left the store?
504
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,000
At first, we just drove around drinking
the beer.
505
00:30:04,540 --> 00:30:07,700
We actually drove down to the pond for a
little bit. I got out and looked
506
00:30:07,700 --> 00:30:09,460
around. You went to the pond?
507
00:30:10,300 --> 00:30:12,660
Just for a few minutes. She said it was
her favorite place.
508
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,640
Then we went driving around some more
and pulled over on a dirt road.
509
00:30:18,020 --> 00:30:19,040
And what happened there?
510
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:23,460
Well, we finished the beer and we
started to kiss a little bit.
511
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:25,520
Then things kind of heated up.
512
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:26,880
How?
513
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,460
Well, the kissing got a little more
passionate.
514
00:30:30,020 --> 00:30:33,380
And I, uh... You know...
515
00:30:33,660 --> 00:30:35,220
Touched her breasts and buttocks.
516
00:30:35,500 --> 00:30:37,400
And this was all consensual?
517
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:42,460
Completely. Then I kind of tried to take
her pants off and we wrestled a little.
518
00:30:44,940 --> 00:30:46,160
She kind of scratched me.
519
00:30:46,620 --> 00:30:47,660
She scratched you?
520
00:30:48,340 --> 00:30:49,340
Yes.
521
00:30:49,660 --> 00:30:52,100
She said she didn't want to go any
further, so we stopped.
522
00:30:52,460 --> 00:30:53,460
And then what?
523
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,460
Then she drove me back down to the
store.
524
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:56,920
Probably around two.
525
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,400
I got out, got in my truck, and drove
home.
526
00:31:01,850 --> 00:31:03,150
That was the last I saw her.
527
00:31:04,430 --> 00:31:08,070
Well, Brian, how did you know where the
body was?
528
00:31:08,630 --> 00:31:09,630
I didn't know.
529
00:31:10,710 --> 00:31:13,390
Deputy Lacos kept pressing me for places
to look.
530
00:31:13,870 --> 00:31:18,190
She had said that the pond was one of
her favorite places, and I kind of
531
00:31:18,190 --> 00:31:19,190
directed him to look there.
532
00:31:19,750 --> 00:31:20,830
I didn't know.
533
00:31:21,830 --> 00:31:23,370
I was just trying to help.
534
00:31:25,230 --> 00:31:26,550
You were just trying to help?
535
00:31:27,930 --> 00:31:30,890
Tell me something, Mr. Latham. Why
didn't you tell the police you'd been to
536
00:31:30,890 --> 00:31:31,890
pond?
537
00:31:32,030 --> 00:31:35,590
As they brought me in, my lawyer
instructed me to tell them nothing. But
538
00:31:35,590 --> 00:31:36,590
went on to say a lot.
539
00:31:36,890 --> 00:31:41,210
Well, once they said I was a suspect, I
certainly told them all that I thought
540
00:31:41,210 --> 00:31:44,350
was relevant, that I'd been kissing her
and that we were together.
541
00:31:44,850 --> 00:31:48,530
I didn't think the pond was really
relevant at that point. But at some
542
00:31:48,570 --> 00:31:49,830
you changed your mind about that.
543
00:31:50,250 --> 00:31:55,590
Well, when she didn't turn up, I
remembered her telling me that the pond
544
00:31:55,590 --> 00:31:56,590
favorite place.
545
00:31:56,970 --> 00:32:00,730
So I thought maybe she went back there
and maybe something happened to her
546
00:32:00,730 --> 00:32:03,270
there, but I didn't do it. Yeah, you
keep saying that.
547
00:32:04,070 --> 00:32:08,050
Is there anybody who can verify the time
that you got back to your motel that
548
00:32:08,050 --> 00:32:11,330
night? I don't know. It's your job to
collect evidence, not mine, sir.
549
00:32:12,310 --> 00:32:13,310
Thank you.
550
00:32:13,570 --> 00:32:17,210
And isn't it funny how all the evidence
we did collect points right at you?
551
00:32:17,710 --> 00:32:20,870
And isn't it strange that you knew
exactly where that body could be found?
552
00:32:21,230 --> 00:32:24,790
But you say you didn't do it, so I guess
it's our evidence versus your
553
00:32:24,790 --> 00:32:25,790
credibility.
554
00:32:26,190 --> 00:32:27,710
Have you ever been convicted of a crime?
555
00:32:29,570 --> 00:32:31,150
I asked you a question, sir.
556
00:32:33,790 --> 00:32:35,770
Breaking and entering. How many times?
557
00:32:36,250 --> 00:32:37,250
Twice.
558
00:32:38,150 --> 00:32:40,090
You're a convicted felon.
559
00:32:41,150 --> 00:32:44,830
So can we both agree that when this jury
goes back to deliberate that it should
560
00:32:44,830 --> 00:32:45,930
turn on your credibility?
561
00:32:46,490 --> 00:32:47,650
Objection. Sustained.
562
00:32:48,310 --> 00:32:49,330
One last thing.
563
00:32:50,810 --> 00:32:55,050
You said when it became clear that the
girl couldn't be found.
564
00:32:55,820 --> 00:32:57,680
You directed Kenny to the pond.
565
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:02,680
But when the police first brought you
in, they made it clear that Susan Ingram
566
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:03,680
was missing.
567
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,780
Why didn't you tell them about the pond
then?
568
00:33:09,220 --> 00:33:11,600
I, uh... I forgot.
569
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:13,640
You forgot?
570
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,560
I was being accused of a horrible crime.
571
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:19,760
I was upset.
572
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,880
Can you imagine being told you're a
murder suspect?
573
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:27,440
I was in shock.
574
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:29,640
Yeah, I bet you were.
575
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:32,280
I'm done with this witness.
576
00:33:34,100 --> 00:33:35,360
The witness may step down.
577
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:52,280
must be something in the water in Rome,
Wisconsin, because things just seem to
578
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,520
keep happening there, and they happen
fast.
579
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:59,520
Today, the Brian Latham murder trial is
expected to go to the jury, just two
580
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:04,140
weeks after the defendant allegedly
killed Susan Engrams. You'll remember,
581
00:34:04,140 --> 00:34:09,000
is the same town where the mayor was
convicted of murder last year, only to
582
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:13,000
succeeded by another mayor who was
murdered by his own son.
583
00:34:15,799 --> 00:34:18,020
Maybe we should move. Just eat your
cereal, Zach.
584
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,460
I'm off to court. Anybody got a problem
with that?
585
00:34:23,580 --> 00:34:24,580
No.
586
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:26,000
Not at all?
587
00:34:26,340 --> 00:34:27,340
Good.
588
00:34:29,940 --> 00:34:31,280
We all want to believe.
589
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:33,880
He's the guy.
590
00:34:35,219 --> 00:34:36,739
We're desperate to believe it.
591
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:38,639
Of course, then we can fix things.
592
00:34:39,580 --> 00:34:43,480
You'd find him guilty, get him off the
street, go back to feeling safe and
593
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:44,780
sitting on our front porches.
594
00:34:45,870 --> 00:34:48,210
The facts, they're pretty good.
595
00:34:48,550 --> 00:34:53,810
He was last seen with her. His
footprints were at the pond, and he knew
596
00:34:53,810 --> 00:34:54,768
the body was.
597
00:34:54,770 --> 00:34:58,930
Now, you could take the circumstantial
evidence, combine it with your fear and
598
00:34:58,930 --> 00:35:00,730
desperation, and fudge a conviction.
599
00:35:01,270 --> 00:35:04,130
The town will probably be grateful to
you.
600
00:35:06,130 --> 00:35:11,470
But I bet that there are a few of you
who are afraid of condemning an innocent
601
00:35:11,470 --> 00:35:12,470
man.
602
00:35:13,190 --> 00:35:18,390
Maybe some of you take seriously the
obligation to find guilt beyond a
603
00:35:18,390 --> 00:35:19,390
reasonable doubt.
604
00:35:20,470 --> 00:35:22,590
Then you've got trouble.
605
00:35:25,030 --> 00:35:29,650
He drove to the pond with her. Then to a
roadside where they kissed a little and
606
00:35:29,650 --> 00:35:34,890
wrestled some. That explains all the
physical evidence. The hairs, the
607
00:35:35,090 --> 00:35:36,090
the footprints.
608
00:35:36,430 --> 00:35:40,370
His knowledge that she liked the pond.
That explains it all.
609
00:35:42,190 --> 00:35:43,190
No weapon.
610
00:35:44,370 --> 00:35:45,430
No witnesses.
611
00:35:46,470 --> 00:35:49,010
No blood of my client or his
possessions.
612
00:35:49,410 --> 00:35:50,990
Nothing even microscopic.
613
00:35:52,250 --> 00:35:53,530
How is that possible?
614
00:35:54,170 --> 00:35:57,210
There would have to be a small
spattering of blood somewhere.
615
00:35:58,450 --> 00:35:59,450
Simple answer.
616
00:36:00,250 --> 00:36:02,110
He didn't do it.
617
00:36:03,350 --> 00:36:05,750
Brian Latham is innocent.
618
00:36:06,850 --> 00:36:10,870
And even if you hate the thought of it,
you at least have to admit the
619
00:36:10,870 --> 00:36:11,870
possibility.
620
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:18,080
It's at least possible somebody came
after Brian left and killed Susan
621
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:23,360
Deputy Stewart testified that they
didn't even look for anybody else. They
622
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,380
didn't even investigate it.
623
00:36:25,720 --> 00:36:29,420
They were confident that you would
convict whoever they would throw up for
624
00:36:29,420 --> 00:36:30,420
sacrifice.
625
00:36:31,240 --> 00:36:32,280
So what do you do?
626
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:37,340
I could ask you to go back to that room
and do right by Brian Latham.
627
00:36:37,900 --> 00:36:40,080
I could ask you to do right by the
system.
628
00:36:41,740 --> 00:36:44,640
Instead, I'll only ask you to do right
by yourselves.
629
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,820
You all know there's reasonable doubt.
630
00:36:49,140 --> 00:36:50,920
You can't not know it.
631
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:57,520
So all I ask is that when you come back
out of that jury room, come out with
632
00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,100
your integrity intact.
633
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:05,020
Come out with a verdict of not guilty.
634
00:37:05,630 --> 00:37:07,150
He's right, not guilty.
635
00:37:07,470 --> 00:37:08,470
Come on.
636
00:37:09,930 --> 00:37:10,930
Mr.
637
00:37:12,750 --> 00:37:13,750
Littleton?
638
00:37:15,350 --> 00:37:16,670
You better be good.
639
00:37:18,470 --> 00:37:21,990
Well, for once, I agree with him.
640
00:37:23,350 --> 00:37:25,410
This thing comes down to your integrity.
641
00:37:26,870 --> 00:37:30,970
The last thing I do is ask you to
safeguard the system. The system today
642
00:37:30,970 --> 00:37:31,970
perverted.
643
00:37:32,690 --> 00:37:34,730
Attorneys jockey for positioning.
644
00:37:35,390 --> 00:37:37,230
We manipulate the press for jury bias.
645
00:37:37,950 --> 00:37:41,790
We hire publicists to remake criminals
into victims.
646
00:37:42,490 --> 00:37:43,490
The truth?
647
00:37:43,710 --> 00:37:46,250
The truth is only relevant if it
supports our case.
648
00:37:47,950 --> 00:37:51,970
But this process still has one redeeming
exception that continues to make it the
649
00:37:51,970 --> 00:37:54,370
best in the world. It's called the jury.
650
00:37:55,970 --> 00:38:00,670
It's made up of people who, for the most
part, still cling to the ideal that it
651
00:38:00,670 --> 00:38:02,250
must be about truth.
652
00:38:03,390 --> 00:38:04,710
It may be diminishing.
653
00:38:05,230 --> 00:38:11,290
But many Americans are still raised with
a public conscience, an ingrained sense
654
00:38:11,290 --> 00:38:12,290
of morality.
655
00:38:12,970 --> 00:38:17,750
And if we get enough of those people in
this box, the system still works.
656
00:38:21,050 --> 00:38:23,070
I don't know what we've got in this box
today.
657
00:38:23,830 --> 00:38:29,690
I do know you can go back to that room,
dissect all the semantics, play with the
658
00:38:29,690 --> 00:38:32,630
pieces of evidence, consider all the
magical possibilities.
659
00:38:33,610 --> 00:38:35,370
You could stay back in that room for a
week.
660
00:38:35,730 --> 00:38:37,150
Because anything is possible.
661
00:38:37,950 --> 00:38:40,030
Anything can be doubted.
662
00:38:41,250 --> 00:38:42,670
But reasonable doubt?
663
00:38:46,970 --> 00:38:48,970
Drifter with a criminal record.
664
00:38:49,790 --> 00:38:53,330
Last seen with her. Knows exactly where
the body was.
665
00:38:53,570 --> 00:38:56,050
His skin is under her fingernails. Come
on!
666
00:38:57,030 --> 00:38:58,370
He killed that girl.
667
00:38:58,990 --> 00:39:01,970
He lied up on that chair. Every one of
us knows that.
668
00:39:03,370 --> 00:39:06,030
Now, is it possible the things that he
said? Of course.
669
00:39:06,370 --> 00:39:11,330
Is it conceivable that he forgot to
mention the pond to the police, but then
670
00:39:11,330 --> 00:39:13,530
remembered on the stand with the help
from his lawyer?
671
00:39:15,070 --> 00:39:18,970
Anything is conceivable, but that's not
what happened.
672
00:39:21,050 --> 00:39:24,330
You look each other in the eye when you
go back to that room. You know what
673
00:39:24,330 --> 00:39:25,330
happened.
674
00:39:26,690 --> 00:39:31,210
That man brutally stabbed this girl to
her death.
675
00:39:32,590 --> 00:39:34,970
Their daughter, Susan Ingram.
676
00:39:38,810 --> 00:39:39,810
She's gone.
677
00:39:41,870 --> 00:39:43,090
She's gone forever.
678
00:39:46,970 --> 00:39:48,650
Do you people have a conscience?
679
00:39:50,050 --> 00:39:52,970
A barometer of good and evil?
680
00:39:54,390 --> 00:39:55,470
Show me.
681
00:39:56,190 --> 00:39:57,510
Show this community.
682
00:39:57,970 --> 00:39:59,750
Show these parents.
683
00:40:00,170 --> 00:40:01,170
Show them.
684
00:40:01,930 --> 00:40:05,150
That the truth, in fact, does count more
than the contest.
685
00:40:07,890 --> 00:40:11,430
Like he said, come out of that room with
your integrity intact.
686
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:49,560
When I said I was ashamed of you, I
didn't mean it.
687
00:40:52,380 --> 00:40:53,380
I know.
688
00:40:54,720 --> 00:40:57,280
I think the law can be a very noble
profession.
689
00:41:00,460 --> 00:41:01,880
Especially if you're part of it.
690
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:06,840
You're an extraordinary young woman,
Kimberly.
691
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:14,140
I'm just afraid that you'll set your
standards by one ball.
692
00:41:18,540 --> 00:41:19,840
That would be a shame.
693
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:32,440
The court will come to order.
694
00:42:04,170 --> 00:42:05,890
Will the defendant please rise?
695
00:42:08,810 --> 00:42:11,310
Madam Poorman, has the jury reached the
verdict?
696
00:42:12,050 --> 00:42:13,110
We have, Your Honor.
697
00:42:13,750 --> 00:42:14,750
What say you?
698
00:42:15,090 --> 00:42:19,610
In the matter of people versus Brian
Latham on the charge of murder in the
699
00:42:19,610 --> 00:42:23,550
degree, we find the defendant guilty as
charged.
700
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,240
Members of the jury, thank you for your
time.
701
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:41,140
Your service is concluded.
702
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:43,140
This matter is adjourned.
703
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,300
Bailiff, take the defendant into
custody.
704
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:04,259
Will appeal.
705
00:43:04,260 --> 00:43:05,640
I've already written the brief.
706
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,640
Van's waiting out back. Let's get him
down. Deputy, one second.
707
00:43:08,860 --> 00:43:10,060
Come on. One second, please.
708
00:43:11,180 --> 00:43:12,180
Alone.
709
00:43:12,660 --> 00:43:13,660
Hold on.
710
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:15,440
Make it quick.
711
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:16,680
It's all over.
712
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:18,440
Done.
713
00:43:20,260 --> 00:43:23,120
I got no motive to say anything to you.
Say it fast.
714
00:43:24,240 --> 00:43:25,240
Truth time.
715
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:27,640
Catholic to Catholic.
716
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:29,640
Me to you.
717
00:43:32,910 --> 00:43:33,910
I didn't do it.
718
00:43:36,530 --> 00:43:37,690
I'm going to jail forever.
719
00:43:40,210 --> 00:43:41,210
I know it.
720
00:43:41,730 --> 00:43:42,730
I'm convicted.
721
00:43:44,010 --> 00:43:45,010
But I'm innocent.
722
00:43:48,070 --> 00:43:49,410
We gotta go. Come on.
55677
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