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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:03,300 --> 00:00:04,420 She's never done this. 2 00:00:04,620 --> 00:00:05,620 Stayed out all night. 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:07,160 Something's happened. 4 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:09,680 We're looking for her, Marjorie. 5 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:11,280 She's in trouble, I know it. 6 00:00:11,540 --> 00:00:14,400 She tried to buy a six -pack, but come on, she looks 16. 7 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:17,320 Come in. Blue Camaro matching the description. 8 00:00:17,660 --> 00:00:19,080 Appears to be unoccupied. 9 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:23,140 Sometimes we argue, she runs out, but she always comes back, you know. 10 00:00:24,180 --> 00:00:26,920 Then I seen her talking to this guy, 30, maybe older. 11 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:28,940 I seen her give him the money. 12 00:00:29,540 --> 00:00:31,100 Then he comes in and buys the beer. 13 00:00:36,940 --> 00:00:38,040 License plate 332. 14 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:40,300 Yellow Victor X -ray. 15 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:45,200 Affirmative. I called all her friends. They haven't seen her. This isn't right. 16 00:00:45,700 --> 00:00:47,000 I seen him get in her car. 17 00:00:48,140 --> 00:00:49,280 Then they drove off together. 18 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:00,600 She is not a runaway. 19 00:01:01,380 --> 00:01:04,200 We fight, but she is not a runaway. 20 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:05,920 Blood on the seat and floor. 21 00:01:06,570 --> 00:01:12,350 Send forensics and call Carter Pike. Maybe he can... Please help us. 22 00:01:13,450 --> 00:01:14,650 The guy looked normal. 23 00:01:20,390 --> 00:01:23,690 I retrieved what appears to be a right middle or ring finger. 24 00:01:24,510 --> 00:01:25,510 Female. 25 00:01:26,150 --> 00:01:27,430 Severed at the second joint. 26 00:01:38,540 --> 00:01:39,540 Here we go. 27 00:02:51,790 --> 00:02:55,330 Suspect drives a brown pickup, older model, dented driver's side door, 28 00:02:55,330 --> 00:02:58,250 just before midnight. I want the finger. It could be a post -mortem incision. He 29 00:02:58,250 --> 00:02:59,610 won't let me have it. Give him the finger. 30 00:03:00,970 --> 00:03:01,970 Thank you. 31 00:03:03,430 --> 00:03:05,450 Looks like a struggle in the car. 32 00:03:05,650 --> 00:03:06,650 A lot of blood. 33 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:10,800 That's everything inside and out. Check this out. Do it for track. 34 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:12,800 Impound the car. 35 00:03:16,920 --> 00:03:17,920 Make a guess. 36 00:03:19,100 --> 00:03:20,100 A lot of blood. 37 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:21,480 Probably dead. 38 00:03:23,260 --> 00:03:24,260 God. All right. 39 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:26,260 God. Yes, God. 40 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:30,680 He's teaching the kids creationism. Wait a minute. Wait. Wait a minute. Who? 41 00:03:31,060 --> 00:03:32,100 Harold Sawyer. 42 00:03:32,350 --> 00:03:35,850 He's a fifth grade teacher. Your Zachary is in his class. And he's being taught 43 00:03:35,850 --> 00:03:37,110 that God created man. 44 00:03:37,510 --> 00:03:38,710 Why are you coming to me? 45 00:03:39,030 --> 00:03:41,030 Because Michael Oslo wouldn't give us an appointment. 46 00:03:41,410 --> 00:03:45,130 And you're on the school committee. My son is Jewish, and I don't want the New 47 00:03:45,130 --> 00:03:48,650 Testament being driven down his young, impressionable throat. 48 00:03:48,930 --> 00:03:51,370 Well, that's a lovely image, Bernie, but I'll tell you what. 49 00:03:51,820 --> 00:03:54,760 I'll set up a meeting with the school committee and this Mr. Sawyer, and I'll 50 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:57,780 find out what he's teaching. Well, if it's God, he should be arrested. All 51 00:03:57,780 --> 00:03:59,640 right, well, thank you very much. 52 00:03:59,980 --> 00:04:02,440 Now, I need the author. I'm sorry, this is not something that can be shown. 53 00:04:02,980 --> 00:04:04,820 The school committee will keep it in there from now on. 54 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:06,160 One question, please. 55 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:09,080 Sir? No, there have been no arrests. Are there any leads? 56 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:13,860 Yes, we do have some leads, but... Is Abrams still dead? I don't know. We do 57 00:04:13,860 --> 00:04:16,260 know there has been false play. The investigation is ongoing. 58 00:04:16,540 --> 00:04:17,760 You gave Carter Pike the finger. 59 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:20,519 For pathology. 60 00:04:21,750 --> 00:04:23,630 I'll let you know as soon as we have something. 61 00:04:23,870 --> 00:04:27,030 John Emanuel just called from his store. The ground pickup's back. The guy's 62 00:04:27,030 --> 00:04:29,110 inside shopping. Take all units. Get that guy. 63 00:05:12,140 --> 00:05:13,140 Tell them nothing. 64 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:14,160 What are you doing? 65 00:05:14,420 --> 00:05:18,040 He hasn't been arrested. You're going to ask him a few questions, aren't you? 66 00:05:18,180 --> 00:05:19,420 Oh, it's how silly of me. 67 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:22,440 This will be exciting. I can feel it. 68 00:05:22,780 --> 00:05:26,200 Yeah, I got into her car and we went off and had a few beers together. 69 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:30,920 It's a crime to provide alcohol to 16 -year -olds, Mr. Latham. It's a crime to 70 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:32,020 have sex with them as well. 71 00:05:32,500 --> 00:05:35,040 But trust me, that was the plan. What happened? 72 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:37,260 We parked somewhere on a quiet road. 73 00:05:37,840 --> 00:05:40,020 We drank a beer and then we kissed a little. 74 00:05:40,300 --> 00:05:41,480 I tried for more. 75 00:05:42,060 --> 00:05:43,060 Much more. 76 00:05:43,260 --> 00:05:45,060 And? She said no. 77 00:05:45,380 --> 00:05:48,000 We wrestled and got a little grabby, but that was it. 78 00:05:48,620 --> 00:05:53,440 Then she drove me back to my car, let me out, and I never saw her again. 79 00:05:54,700 --> 00:05:55,740 That was the end of it. 80 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:58,240 I want to go back to the beginning. 81 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,720 In the beginning, God created the heaven and the earth. 82 00:06:03,280 --> 00:06:04,340 That's what Genesis says. 83 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:06,080 And your teacher told you to read this? 84 00:06:07,100 --> 00:06:08,980 Yes, but it's a giant myth. 85 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:10,200 It is? 86 00:06:10,730 --> 00:06:11,730 We come from monkeys. 87 00:06:12,270 --> 00:06:17,990 A male ape got a homo erectus. For a female ape, he had a bald baby who could 88 00:06:17,990 --> 00:06:18,990 stand up straight. 89 00:06:19,210 --> 00:06:20,430 And that's how man began. 90 00:06:21,010 --> 00:06:22,250 I saw it on Nova. 91 00:06:23,090 --> 00:06:28,290 Oh, I see. But, um, now, Zach, your teacher told you that God created man? 92 00:06:29,390 --> 00:06:30,390 Isn't true. 93 00:06:31,450 --> 00:06:32,450 Is it? 94 00:06:36,970 --> 00:06:38,290 I didn't do anything. 95 00:06:38,990 --> 00:06:41,950 How long do I have to keep seeing them? Until you tell us the truth. 96 00:06:45,750 --> 00:06:46,870 Maybe I should get a lawyer. 97 00:06:48,310 --> 00:06:49,310 Can I have a lawyer? 98 00:06:49,770 --> 00:06:50,770 You want a lawyer? 99 00:06:54,430 --> 00:06:55,790 You really want a lawyer? 100 00:06:57,930 --> 00:07:02,230 You see, Brian, this is the wrong town to be picked up in for kidnapping a 101 00:07:02,270 --> 00:07:03,550 I didn't kidnap her. It doesn't matter. 102 00:07:04,010 --> 00:07:08,310 A 16 -year -old girl is missing, maybe dead, and somebody's going to get 103 00:07:09,030 --> 00:07:12,970 Now, you're a drifter with a criminal record who was last seen with her. Use 104 00:07:12,970 --> 00:07:13,970 your head. 105 00:07:14,510 --> 00:07:15,910 Now you ask for a lawyer? 106 00:07:16,430 --> 00:07:20,310 Maybe we should turn you loose and let the mob outside deal with you. You can't 107 00:07:20,310 --> 00:07:22,290 do this. We can do whatever we want. 108 00:07:22,810 --> 00:07:23,810 We're the cops. 109 00:07:23,930 --> 00:07:24,930 Max. No. 110 00:07:25,450 --> 00:07:26,750 He needs to hear this. 111 00:07:27,590 --> 00:07:32,170 You're not going to get a fair trial. Someone is going to pay for what 112 00:07:32,170 --> 00:07:33,159 to that girl. 113 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:35,920 Now, if you're the only suspect that we offer up, it's going to be you. 114 00:07:36,860 --> 00:07:38,540 Innocent or not. 115 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:41,780 I want a lawyer. 116 00:07:43,460 --> 00:07:44,460 Hmm. 117 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:45,840 Nice. 118 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:52,380 How long have we been here? 119 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:53,600 Charge him with kidnapping. 120 00:07:54,740 --> 00:07:57,120 On what? We haven't got... If you let him walk, he'll fly. 121 00:07:58,120 --> 00:07:59,160 Book him and hold him. 122 00:08:13,310 --> 00:08:15,270 Nothing. Go ahead. You got a client. 123 00:08:17,090 --> 00:08:19,470 I know it. Very exciting. 124 00:08:20,490 --> 00:08:21,490 Yeah. 125 00:08:21,730 --> 00:08:22,730 What'd you say? 126 00:08:29,170 --> 00:08:30,170 Premortem incision. 127 00:08:30,380 --> 00:08:32,740 She was still alive when this was cut off. Please don't shake that. 128 00:08:33,059 --> 00:08:35,559 Here's the thing. There was a lot of blood in that car. It didn't just come 129 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:38,700 this. Fingers don't bleed like that. Stop shaking it at me. My bet, the girl 130 00:08:38,700 --> 00:08:41,799 dead. But it is pre -mortem. She could be alive. But if so, where is she? Not 131 00:08:41,799 --> 00:08:42,799 with him. We've got him. 132 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:43,839 What's your point? 133 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:46,480 He was back at that store buying groceries. Maybe it's a kidnapping. 134 00:08:47,100 --> 00:08:50,740 Maybe she's locked up somewhere. In which case, holding him puts her life in 135 00:08:50,740 --> 00:08:54,060 jeopardy. She probably has no access to food or water. She could have a limited 136 00:08:54,060 --> 00:08:54,779 air supply. 137 00:08:54,780 --> 00:08:56,820 I'd release him. I'm not releasing him. 138 00:08:57,150 --> 00:08:59,610 Well, then you damn well better get him to tell you where she is. She could be 139 00:08:59,610 --> 00:09:00,610 dying as we speak. 140 00:09:01,290 --> 00:09:03,870 Let me beat it out of him. No. What if Carter's right? You know you're his 141 00:09:03,870 --> 00:09:06,770 force. It's unconstitutional and you know it. The Constitution isn't doing 142 00:09:06,770 --> 00:09:08,710 Holmes any good. No force. Give me two minutes with the guy. 143 00:09:09,350 --> 00:09:10,350 That's a direct order. 144 00:09:20,570 --> 00:09:24,690 Deputy Stewart, do you know where she is? 145 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:29,120 We have no information as to the welfare or location of Susan Ingram. 146 00:09:29,340 --> 00:09:30,740 What about the medical findings? 147 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:34,760 We know that the finger was cut off while the victim was still alive, 148 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:37,180 the second joint. Is it true you used it to pick your nose? 149 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:39,820 All right. On what grounds did you arrest Latham? 150 00:09:40,140 --> 00:09:44,100 I will not discuss the investigation other than to say that we're very 151 00:09:44,100 --> 00:09:46,780 with our progress. Our field units have done an outstanding job. 152 00:09:48,100 --> 00:09:49,100 We're dead. 153 00:09:49,260 --> 00:09:52,300 Nothing in the guy's truck. It's suspicious. No prints of hers anywhere. 154 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:53,880 There's nothing forensic. 155 00:09:56,620 --> 00:09:59,460 Hey, Wambaugh's pushing me on this arraignment, so what do we got? 156 00:10:05,100 --> 00:10:09,120 What do we have? The girl was last seen getting into his car. His prints were 157 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:10,120 all over the beer can. 158 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:12,899 That's it? 159 00:10:12,900 --> 00:10:15,020 He was arrested three years ago on the same charge. 160 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:19,580 He tried to abduct a 15 -year -old girl at knife point, but the charges were 161 00:10:19,580 --> 00:10:20,580 eventually dropped. 162 00:10:22,060 --> 00:10:22,959 Here, Kim. 163 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:27,150 What? We've got nothing to arrest him on. I'm not kicking him. You cannot call 164 00:10:27,150 --> 00:10:31,110 suspect without evidence. I can't make that statement. You tell her parents. 165 00:10:31,110 --> 00:10:32,650 tell the judge to wait probable cause. 166 00:10:32,870 --> 00:10:34,610 Such loud voices. Shut away. 167 00:10:35,090 --> 00:10:37,730 I have to see my client. Looks like the news is good. 168 00:10:37,970 --> 00:10:39,150 I want to give him a polygraph. 169 00:10:39,690 --> 00:10:41,230 Jimmy, I'm shocked. 170 00:10:42,910 --> 00:10:45,230 The man may have killed a 16 -year -old girl. 171 00:10:46,010 --> 00:10:47,530 No polygraph. 172 00:10:48,210 --> 00:10:50,230 And I don't want you even talking to him. 173 00:11:08,430 --> 00:11:10,690 You cannot teach creationism in the school. 174 00:11:10,930 --> 00:11:15,290 I'm not proffering strict creationism. I'm suggesting a moderate creation 175 00:11:15,290 --> 00:11:19,030 that God had something to do with man's evolution. But you can't do that. 176 00:11:19,310 --> 00:11:23,510 Look, all I'm doing is encouraging the students to ask questions. There are 177 00:11:23,510 --> 00:11:25,090 questions about evolution. 178 00:11:25,410 --> 00:11:28,070 We can't scientifically prove the ape -to -man mutation. 179 00:11:29,110 --> 00:11:32,970 You're suggesting the possibility of a divine being, and that is directly 180 00:11:32,970 --> 00:11:35,250 against the Supreme Court's mandate. 181 00:11:35,820 --> 00:11:37,980 Those kids are coming into my class confused. 182 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:40,620 Zachary Brock included. 183 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:43,280 I'm letting them know it's okay to be confused. 184 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:47,520 Religion and science don't have to be mutually exclusive. They can coexist. 185 00:11:48,500 --> 00:11:51,080 I see no cause for alarm in this man's teachings. 186 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:53,080 Funny thing. 187 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:58,240 I'm not feeding them Adam and Eve, but I won't eliminate God from the creation 188 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:01,240 process. How can any teacher responsibly do that? 189 00:12:01,900 --> 00:12:03,200 And don't tell me to. 190 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:05,100 Nobody's telling you that. 191 00:12:05,560 --> 00:12:08,400 Just teach your course, Mr. Sawyer, but be aware of our concerns. 192 00:12:15,940 --> 00:12:18,360 My lawyer said not to talk to anybody. 193 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:20,240 You want me to go? 194 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:21,320 I'll go. 195 00:12:21,900 --> 00:12:23,680 I'm not going to ask you anything about what happened. 196 00:12:24,260 --> 00:12:25,540 That's a promise from me to you. 197 00:12:26,220 --> 00:12:27,240 Then why are you here? 198 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:29,540 I'm here as a Catholic. 199 00:12:32,620 --> 00:12:34,500 I see you carry this cross in your truck. 200 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:37,180 You're Catholic too, aren't you? So? 201 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:40,160 So. 202 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:42,400 Okay, I understand you a little. 203 00:12:45,680 --> 00:12:46,680 Oh, well. 204 00:12:47,980 --> 00:12:50,280 There's wrong and there's wrong, Brian. 205 00:12:51,220 --> 00:12:54,380 If you killed her, I'm not saying you did. 206 00:12:55,340 --> 00:12:56,680 I don't care if you did. 207 00:12:57,740 --> 00:13:01,780 I'm saying even if you did, God forgives everything. 208 00:13:03,620 --> 00:13:04,620 People repent. 209 00:13:05,930 --> 00:13:06,930 He forgives. 210 00:13:08,690 --> 00:13:10,610 But there is one thing this girl needs. 211 00:13:11,730 --> 00:13:12,910 Her parents need. 212 00:13:13,690 --> 00:13:16,030 And yeah, maybe God needs. 213 00:13:18,030 --> 00:13:19,150 Let her be buried. 214 00:13:22,350 --> 00:13:23,950 Every Christian deserves that. 215 00:13:26,690 --> 00:13:28,610 No matter how good or how evil. 216 00:13:30,750 --> 00:13:32,710 Every Christian should be put at peace. 217 00:13:34,830 --> 00:13:36,290 I'm not asking you to admit to nothing. 218 00:13:37,790 --> 00:13:41,910 Just... We've been looking everywhere for this girl. 219 00:13:43,090 --> 00:13:44,190 We can't find her. 220 00:13:49,870 --> 00:13:51,030 I didn't do anything. 221 00:13:51,550 --> 00:13:52,850 I don't care if you did. 222 00:13:54,950 --> 00:13:56,990 I need to go someplace just to relax. 223 00:13:58,970 --> 00:13:59,970 Clear my head. 224 00:14:02,410 --> 00:14:04,050 Perhaps you know a place I could go. 225 00:14:09,450 --> 00:14:10,450 make things right. 226 00:14:12,510 --> 00:14:18,070 In the name of God, she deserves a Catholic funeral. 227 00:14:21,590 --> 00:14:25,830 Just tell me someplace to go where I can relax. 228 00:14:44,110 --> 00:14:45,470 Tell me someplace where I can go. 229 00:14:52,610 --> 00:14:53,610 There's a pond. 230 00:14:55,390 --> 00:14:57,530 About six miles back the other way. 231 00:14:59,410 --> 00:15:00,970 Behind some old farm. 232 00:15:04,370 --> 00:15:05,370 It's peaceful. 233 00:15:08,450 --> 00:15:10,150 Maybe it's a good place to relax. 234 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:20,280 He told you? 235 00:15:20,540 --> 00:15:21,540 Just like that? 236 00:15:22,180 --> 00:15:23,280 I didn't lay a hand on him. 237 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:26,160 We've got it! 238 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:27,520 They're up! 239 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:29,480 Give me your hand. 240 00:15:30,420 --> 00:15:32,020 Give me your hand over here. 241 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:39,960 There's marks to weigh it down. 242 00:15:41,260 --> 00:15:44,360 Give me your hand. 243 00:16:23,270 --> 00:16:28,810 I got it. Get that gurney ready, huh? Ready. One, two, and three. 244 00:16:37,910 --> 00:16:38,910 It's my job. 245 00:16:39,170 --> 00:16:40,170 I don't care. 246 00:16:40,630 --> 00:16:44,770 If Wambaugh wants to represent scum like that, I don't want you working for him. 247 00:16:45,150 --> 00:16:48,630 But if I'm going to be working for a lawyer, I'm going to be working for 248 00:16:48,630 --> 00:16:50,850 defendant. How can you defend this man? 249 00:16:51,130 --> 00:16:52,069 I'm an assistant. 250 00:16:52,070 --> 00:16:53,390 I'm not even a paralegal. 251 00:16:54,070 --> 00:16:55,070 And you? 252 00:16:57,070 --> 00:16:58,890 Letting this guy teach creationism? 253 00:16:59,830 --> 00:17:01,170 He's not pushing Christianity. 254 00:17:01,410 --> 00:17:02,470 It's strictly academic. 255 00:17:03,310 --> 00:17:04,369 Sorry, I'd like you to think. 256 00:17:05,010 --> 00:17:06,010 What? 257 00:17:06,849 --> 00:17:07,849 He's Catholic. 258 00:17:08,230 --> 00:17:10,430 He's Jesuit trained. He's smart. 259 00:17:11,770 --> 00:17:16,300 If he wants to sneak in creationism, He's clever enough to guise it in 260 00:17:20,740 --> 00:17:21,740 What? 261 00:17:23,060 --> 00:17:24,319 That's pretty racist. 262 00:17:26,060 --> 00:17:27,060 Excuse me? 263 00:17:27,619 --> 00:17:30,600 You distrust the guy because he's Catholic. That's racist. 264 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:33,560 It's politically correct to hate Christians. 265 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:35,460 I don't hate Christians. 266 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:36,839 Do too. 267 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:38,800 And I'm not anti -Catholic. 268 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:41,000 I'm against... 269 00:17:41,750 --> 00:17:45,330 Teaching God in the school. Would you keep your voice down? No, and I won't be 270 00:17:45,330 --> 00:17:46,750 lectured to by any of you. 271 00:17:47,870 --> 00:17:51,250 Freedom of religion means the freedom not to believe too. 272 00:17:51,930 --> 00:17:54,190 And maybe I just don't feel like believing tonight. 273 00:17:54,410 --> 00:17:55,810 Jimmy. I'm sorry. 274 00:17:56,550 --> 00:18:00,610 I just saw a 16 -year -old wrapped in a tarp. Where was God for her? 275 00:18:01,290 --> 00:18:03,790 Where was he for Susan Ingram's or her parents? 276 00:18:06,450 --> 00:18:09,030 If that's the work of the Almighty, then to hell with them. 277 00:18:16,460 --> 00:18:17,460 He didn't mean that. 278 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:19,080 Just eat. 279 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:26,100 I think he did mean it. 280 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:27,279 Me too. 281 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:28,440 He was just upset. 282 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:32,580 He saw that girl and he was just still upset about it. That's all. 283 00:18:32,820 --> 00:18:37,720 But if God has a purpose for everything, then he did that to Susan Ingram's own 284 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:38,720 purpose. 285 00:18:38,860 --> 00:18:41,200 You can't look at it that way. Why not? 286 00:18:41,940 --> 00:18:43,900 We're supposed to give him credit for all the good stuff. 287 00:18:45,580 --> 00:18:47,780 I think it's easier to just not believe in him at all. 288 00:18:48,580 --> 00:18:50,740 Was it the devil who did it to Susan Ingram? 289 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:52,980 There's no such thing as the devil. 290 00:18:54,220 --> 00:18:55,760 The Catholics believe in the devil. 291 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:57,340 Well, they're wrong. 292 00:18:58,240 --> 00:18:59,920 Maybe they're wrong about God, too. 293 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:01,440 They probably are. 294 00:19:01,980 --> 00:19:03,680 Look, it doesn't make any difference. 295 00:19:04,300 --> 00:19:06,580 It's not like if you believe in him, he'll protect you. 296 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:08,640 The Ingrams are Catholics. 297 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:10,820 Susie Ingrams wore the cross. 298 00:19:12,620 --> 00:19:13,860 Look how she ended up. 299 00:19:21,350 --> 00:19:22,350 Bye, guys. Have a good day. 300 00:19:24,950 --> 00:19:27,910 I'm almost 18 years old. I have a part -time job. 301 00:19:28,470 --> 00:19:32,170 And the top priority in my life can no longer be making my parents proud. 302 00:19:32,390 --> 00:19:33,390 I beg your pardon? 303 00:19:33,450 --> 00:19:36,250 How dare you or Dad try to tell me to quit working for Wamba? 304 00:19:36,590 --> 00:19:38,350 I knew Susie Ingrams. You didn't. 305 00:19:39,610 --> 00:19:41,190 How dare you tell me how to feel? 306 00:19:42,950 --> 00:19:43,950 I'm sorry. 307 00:19:44,710 --> 00:19:47,850 What if Latham was wheeled into your office with a gunshot wound? 308 00:19:48,410 --> 00:19:50,270 You wouldn't try to save him because he's guilty? 309 00:19:51,399 --> 00:19:55,400 Well, it's not quite the same thing, but again, I apologize. 310 00:20:00,700 --> 00:20:03,760 Oh, and you better go to the arraignment today. 311 00:20:05,620 --> 00:20:06,620 Why? 312 00:20:07,140 --> 00:20:10,300 I can't tell you why. I made a promise. 313 00:20:11,660 --> 00:20:14,020 But you'll want to be there. 314 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:15,280 What's going on? 315 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:19,080 It has nothing to do with me. 316 00:20:19,590 --> 00:20:21,130 But I made a promise that I wouldn't tell. 317 00:20:22,210 --> 00:20:23,270 So just go to court. 318 00:20:27,930 --> 00:20:29,490 Don't you ever talk to the police. 319 00:20:29,710 --> 00:20:32,590 I just thought that... I don't want to know what you thought. And I don't care 320 00:20:32,590 --> 00:20:33,770 how you knew where the girl was. 321 00:20:34,030 --> 00:20:36,550 You tell me nothing, you tell the police nothing. 322 00:20:37,150 --> 00:20:39,630 Any chance of you walking free, you've got to keep your mouth shut. 323 00:20:39,890 --> 00:20:40,890 You understand? 324 00:20:41,890 --> 00:20:44,430 Yes. You dug yourself a nice grave. 325 00:20:44,930 --> 00:20:46,190 Now I've got to get you out. 326 00:20:46,670 --> 00:20:47,670 Guard! 327 00:20:48,750 --> 00:20:49,870 Time to go to court. 328 00:20:51,650 --> 00:20:54,910 Case number 42123, People v. 329 00:20:55,230 --> 00:20:56,230 Brian Latham. 330 00:20:56,670 --> 00:20:58,630 Charges of murder in the first degree. 331 00:20:59,070 --> 00:21:00,850 Douglas Wambo for the defendant. 332 00:21:01,350 --> 00:21:05,450 Wave reading, plead not guilty, and ask that the bail be set at... No bail. 333 00:21:05,990 --> 00:21:09,350 Preliminary hearing, October 3rd. Hold on just a second, Your Honor. 334 00:21:09,570 --> 00:21:11,790 I have a motion to dismiss all charges. 335 00:21:12,090 --> 00:21:13,090 What a surprise. 336 00:21:13,660 --> 00:21:18,140 There is no probable cause to connect Mr. Latham to the crime except that he 337 00:21:18,140 --> 00:21:19,140 into the girl's car. 338 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:23,180 Your Honor, he knew where the body was hidden. He directed the police to go 339 00:21:23,180 --> 00:21:26,640 there. That statement was coerced without counsel. The statement was 340 00:21:27,120 --> 00:21:30,560 Deputy Lacos told the suspect that if he didn't want to talk, he didn't have to 341 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:34,360 talk. Deputy Lacos prevailed on my client's Christian sympathies. 342 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:38,840 He asked that my client locate the body so Susan Agrins could have a Catholic 343 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:40,140 burial and... Is that what happened? 344 00:21:41,669 --> 00:21:45,310 I wasn't informed of the content of the conversation, Your Honor. I only know 345 00:21:45,310 --> 00:21:46,310 that it was voluntary. 346 00:21:46,550 --> 00:21:48,290 Deputy Lacos, step up here. 347 00:21:49,330 --> 00:21:53,570 Your Honor, I would first like to confer with Deputy Lacos before... Denied. 348 00:21:53,970 --> 00:21:54,970 Your Honor. 349 00:21:55,050 --> 00:21:56,050 Denied. 350 00:22:00,710 --> 00:22:02,670 What did you say to the defendant? 351 00:22:03,430 --> 00:22:06,810 Just that, you know, that she should get a burial service. 352 00:22:07,070 --> 00:22:08,670 I didn't ask him to admit anything. 353 00:22:08,890 --> 00:22:10,510 Just point it to the body. 354 00:22:10,890 --> 00:22:14,510 Your Honor, I had asked that they not speak to my client. Your Honor, it was a 355 00:22:14,510 --> 00:22:15,510 voluntary conversation. 356 00:22:15,810 --> 00:22:19,510 It was a conversation designed to elicit an incriminating response. 357 00:22:20,230 --> 00:22:25,230 It amounts to an interrogation outside of counsel in violation of the 358 00:22:25,230 --> 00:22:26,730 defendant's Sixth Amendment rights. 359 00:22:27,650 --> 00:22:32,590 That would mean that the discovery of the body and all the physical evidence 360 00:22:32,590 --> 00:22:38,330 contained therein would be fruits of a poisonous tree and therefore 361 00:22:38,330 --> 00:22:39,330 inadmissible. 362 00:22:43,129 --> 00:22:46,630 I may have no choice but to dismiss the charges. 363 00:22:48,270 --> 00:22:49,270 Mr. 364 00:22:50,430 --> 00:22:52,590 and Mrs. Ingrams, I'm deeply sorry. 365 00:22:53,310 --> 00:22:54,950 Put the defendant back in lockup. 366 00:22:55,530 --> 00:22:57,370 I'll take this matter under advisement. 367 00:22:59,670 --> 00:23:00,670 Let's go. 368 00:23:02,390 --> 00:23:06,350 We'll reconvene at two tomorrow, at which time I'll make my ruling. 369 00:23:06,910 --> 00:23:07,910 Everybody get out. 370 00:23:08,210 --> 00:23:10,870 Your Honor, I have another matter. 371 00:23:12,620 --> 00:23:13,640 I'm so pleased. 372 00:23:14,460 --> 00:23:15,460 Send him in. 373 00:23:17,140 --> 00:23:19,140 I'm representing Zachary Brock. 374 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:25,960 A student currently enrolled in Rome's public school system. 375 00:23:26,380 --> 00:23:27,400 What's going on? 376 00:23:27,820 --> 00:23:31,840 We are filing suit against the Rome School Committee and we are seeking a 377 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,740 restraining order against teaching creation at the schools. 378 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:37,040 Excuse me? 379 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:41,820 Harold Sawyer, a biology teacher, is teaching the book of Genesis. 380 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:44,960 Such a horrible week for the Constitution. 381 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,140 Your Honor, may I be heard? 382 00:23:49,020 --> 00:23:50,020 Who are you? 383 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,240 Harold Sawyer, the teacher in question. 384 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:58,720 I'm not an attorney, but I'm well aware of the Supreme Court's ruling in Edwards 385 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,460 v. Aguilard and... He's a wild Christian, Judge. 386 00:24:02,140 --> 00:24:03,340 I'm no such thing. 387 00:24:03,580 --> 00:24:04,439 All right. 388 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:05,440 Quiet. 389 00:24:06,300 --> 00:24:07,300 Zachary. 390 00:24:07,860 --> 00:24:10,380 You went to Mr. Wambaugh and asked him to stop this? 391 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:11,960 Yes. 392 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:13,240 Why? 393 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:15,360 It's Catholic dogma. 394 00:24:15,780 --> 00:24:16,780 I see. 395 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:19,160 What's dogma? 396 00:24:19,900 --> 00:24:20,900 It's bad. 397 00:24:21,360 --> 00:24:22,920 God shouldn't be at schools. 398 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:24,720 He's a joke. 399 00:24:27,220 --> 00:24:28,380 Why do you think that? 400 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,480 Look what happened to Susie Ingrams. 401 00:24:31,780 --> 00:24:35,440 There can't be a God, so they shouldn't be teaching him in school. 402 00:24:41,810 --> 00:24:43,910 Take him to your office. I'll see you there. Okay. 403 00:24:44,430 --> 00:24:47,030 How could you not tell me this? I gave you a clue. 404 00:24:48,850 --> 00:24:52,250 No comment. I have nothing to say right now. What the hell is going on? 405 00:24:54,110 --> 00:24:55,510 Don't worry. We're on top of it. 406 00:25:12,139 --> 00:25:13,139 Tell me. 407 00:25:14,500 --> 00:25:15,700 We're back to being dead. 408 00:25:15,900 --> 00:25:20,340 Kenny didn't use force. The guy willingly talked. The man said he didn't 409 00:25:20,340 --> 00:25:23,040 talk without a lawyer. You get him to talk with a Christian burial speech? 410 00:25:24,020 --> 00:25:27,640 There's a Supreme Court case exactly on point. But this can't be happening. The 411 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:31,360 guy committed murder. Now he's gonna walk? He won't walk, damn it! 412 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:38,560 There's forensics on the body. We can put together a... Poisonous fruits. We 413 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:39,560 dead. 414 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:46,260 Your father and I are on that school committee. Do you think it's a nice 415 00:25:46,260 --> 00:25:47,260 to sue your parents? 416 00:25:50,060 --> 00:25:54,280 We love you, we take care of you, and you sue us ex parte. What were you 417 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:55,280 thinking about? 418 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:56,320 The Jews. 419 00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:00,060 Zachary, there's nothing anti -Jewish about creationism. 420 00:26:01,780 --> 00:26:05,060 I am very disappointed in you, young man. 421 00:26:05,540 --> 00:26:07,280 Well, you should read the complaint. 422 00:26:07,740 --> 00:26:09,320 He's seeking trouble damages. 423 00:26:09,740 --> 00:26:14,120 And... Cyanide Temple. Plus, four sets of parents have joined your little 424 00:26:14,120 --> 00:26:15,120 lawsuit now. 425 00:26:16,360 --> 00:26:20,060 It's snowballing. You go straight home, Thackeray, and you wait for us there. 426 00:26:20,380 --> 00:26:23,360 Yeah. No street hockey, no woofer ball. Inside and wait. 427 00:26:26,700 --> 00:26:30,680 If you retaliate, Mr. Wombat says I got a silver white screen. 428 00:26:31,420 --> 00:26:32,420 Never mind. 429 00:26:37,900 --> 00:26:41,600 Well, I don't know whether to be proud of him or completely mortified. That is 430 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:45,380 the kind of insanity religion breeds. No, no, this is the kind of insanity 431 00:26:45,380 --> 00:26:46,420 bad parenting breeds. 432 00:26:47,780 --> 00:26:52,940 Jimmy, I want to start taking them to church. I don't just mean funerals and 433 00:26:52,940 --> 00:26:55,660 Easter. I mean every Sunday on a regular basis. 434 00:26:55,980 --> 00:26:59,040 We talked about this. We talked about this ten years ago. 435 00:26:59,360 --> 00:27:03,300 Things have changed now. Kids kill each other. Our own children have been 436 00:27:03,300 --> 00:27:06,420 victims of violence. We can't... They need something. 437 00:27:07,360 --> 00:27:10,420 I never thought I'd hear you lobbying for the church. Well, I never thought 438 00:27:10,420 --> 00:27:12,920 I would hear my youngest son say that God is a joke. 439 00:27:13,300 --> 00:27:15,500 They get that from us. You're wrong. 440 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:18,420 We don't get anything from you. 441 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:21,320 That's not the problem. 442 00:27:23,180 --> 00:27:25,200 Matthew and Zach come to me about religion. 443 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:27,540 I don't know what to tell them. 444 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:35,420 Last year when I was kidnapped and Matthew was shot, did you pray to God? 445 00:27:38,669 --> 00:27:40,070 Mom? Yes, I did. 446 00:27:43,850 --> 00:27:44,850 Daddy, did you? 447 00:27:48,470 --> 00:27:49,470 Yes. 448 00:27:50,710 --> 00:27:53,190 Why do you admit it like it's a dirty secret? 449 00:27:54,830 --> 00:27:57,390 What's so wrong with letting us know that you pray to God? 450 00:28:00,790 --> 00:28:02,550 I pray to him a lot, Kimberly. 451 00:28:04,390 --> 00:28:05,770 But I don't know if he's there. 452 00:28:08,910 --> 00:28:15,130 Other than being a human creation to give us hope, I don't know if he's 453 00:28:16,190 --> 00:28:17,550 How can you say that? 454 00:28:20,130 --> 00:28:21,130 I don't know. 455 00:28:23,990 --> 00:28:30,790 You told me once, the day I was born, that you looked at me 456 00:28:30,790 --> 00:28:34,150 and you knew right then there was a higher power. 457 00:28:40,430 --> 00:28:41,430 What happened? 458 00:28:51,830 --> 00:28:55,930 You lied to me. You said if I told you where she was, you'd help me. 459 00:28:56,190 --> 00:28:58,330 You said you'd help. I did help you. 460 00:28:58,710 --> 00:29:00,870 Maybe not in this life, but I helped you. 461 00:29:08,270 --> 00:29:12,390 I told you not to talk to my client. You went behind my back. There was a bigger 462 00:29:12,390 --> 00:29:16,830 issue. Aside from it being against the law, it was disrespectful to me. I have 463 00:29:16,830 --> 00:29:18,210 relationship with your department. 464 00:29:18,490 --> 00:29:21,550 You betrayed my trust. I can live with it. I can't. 465 00:29:22,350 --> 00:29:23,770 You want to play hard, Kenny? 466 00:29:24,250 --> 00:29:25,430 I'll embarrass you. 467 00:29:25,730 --> 00:29:27,070 Take my word on that. 468 00:29:31,590 --> 00:29:32,590 Your Honor. 469 00:29:33,610 --> 00:29:34,610 Get out. 470 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,780 We just want one moment of your time. No, no, no. You get out of this room 471 00:29:37,780 --> 00:29:40,740 this minute. Just hear us out before... I will not hear you. 472 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:42,420 I don't know how you got this far. 473 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:46,420 But if you're not out that door, I'll lock you both up for contempt of court. 474 00:29:46,780 --> 00:29:49,240 Now get out of this room right now without another word. Go. 475 00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:58,160 Sorry. 476 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:01,380 You brought them here? 477 00:30:02,380 --> 00:30:03,600 I'll see you disbarred. 478 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:04,759 Do it. 479 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,820 I'm not a particularly proud member of the system right now. 480 00:30:09,940 --> 00:30:13,440 Brewer is right on point. We both know it. The man legally should walk. 481 00:30:14,460 --> 00:30:17,920 I... I can't look her parents in the eye. 482 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:19,880 And you can't either. 483 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:24,200 The answer isn't to break the law or to come crying to me. 484 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:26,880 We're officers of the court. 485 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:29,020 We go by the law. 486 00:30:29,420 --> 00:30:30,420 Period. 487 00:30:31,100 --> 00:30:32,100 Yeah. 488 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:34,320 I mean, we can't go against the Constitution. 489 00:30:35,740 --> 00:30:36,840 That'd be sacrilege. 490 00:30:55,100 --> 00:30:56,580 Did Latham have any scrape marks? 491 00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:58,960 Two, on the neck. 492 00:30:59,470 --> 00:31:01,810 I found skin under the fingernails. DNA should match it up. 493 00:31:02,070 --> 00:31:03,069 Doesn't matter. 494 00:31:03,070 --> 00:31:06,030 This whole body is illegal evidence, poisonous fruits. 495 00:31:06,370 --> 00:31:08,350 What? We can't use any of this? 496 00:31:08,990 --> 00:31:13,750 No. We found the body after the illegal confession, which makes all of your 497 00:31:13,750 --> 00:31:16,470 findings probably inadmissible. Judge Bone already said so. 498 00:31:16,830 --> 00:31:17,830 That's madness. 499 00:31:19,150 --> 00:31:20,530 What kind of people do this? 500 00:31:21,590 --> 00:31:25,050 And how do we stop them? We can't even question suspects. How can we stop them? 501 00:31:25,150 --> 00:31:26,710 We can't stop them. Look at them. 502 00:31:27,500 --> 00:31:29,560 Kenny... The guy that did this is going to go free because of me. 503 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:33,100 They expect us to be lawyers. 504 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,540 The guy's doing the killing. They don't have to be lawyers, but we have to know 505 00:31:36,540 --> 00:31:38,400 all the technicalities or we lose them. 506 00:31:39,460 --> 00:31:40,460 Look. 507 00:31:41,220 --> 00:31:43,160 The guy that did that is going to walk because of me. 508 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:45,560 Hey. 509 00:31:45,860 --> 00:31:48,040 Susan Ingram gets a burial because of you. 510 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,320 Her parents get to put her at peace because of what you did. 511 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:55,240 She was dead. 512 00:31:57,100 --> 00:32:02,980 No matter what, she gets a Catholic burial only because of you. 513 00:32:06,260 --> 00:32:07,360 What's going on? 514 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:12,320 I did a little reading on evolution last night. There are gaps. 515 00:32:13,260 --> 00:32:17,200 Transitional fossils haven't been found. The missing link is still missing. 516 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:21,840 Evolution may not be perfect, but he still can't teach God. It is against the 517 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:26,080 Constitution. The establishment clause says we can't do anything to advance or 518 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:27,160 inhibit religion. 519 00:32:27,500 --> 00:32:29,420 Exactly. Good judge. 520 00:32:29,740 --> 00:32:36,420 Well, if you teach strict evolution, you're suggesting the absence of a god. 521 00:32:37,220 --> 00:32:41,400 To suggest his impossibility would be inhibiting religion. 522 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,300 That's a violation of the establishment clause, too. 523 00:32:45,620 --> 00:32:49,500 Your Honor, as a lawyer, I obviously object. 524 00:32:50,540 --> 00:32:54,600 But also, as a Jewish man right here... Mr. Sawyer's motives are secular. 525 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:55,799 I don't care. 526 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:59,820 As a Jewish citizen here in this town... Talk to me as a citizen, period. 527 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,960 You see the expressions on the faces in this town? 528 00:33:04,260 --> 00:33:05,260 On the children? 529 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,140 One of our teenagers was brutally murdered. 530 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:10,840 The news is full of tragedy. 531 00:33:11,700 --> 00:33:14,160 Our kids need something to cling on to. 532 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,420 To offer the suggestion of a higher power to them... 533 00:33:18,750 --> 00:33:20,050 That can't be all bad. 534 00:33:20,610 --> 00:33:22,550 Our children need hope. 535 00:33:22,750 --> 00:33:24,410 I don't disagree with that. 536 00:33:24,830 --> 00:33:30,070 But religion is a parent's job, not a school's. The parents aren't doing the 537 00:33:30,070 --> 00:33:31,070 job. 538 00:33:31,190 --> 00:33:32,190 Are they? 539 00:33:39,090 --> 00:33:42,730 How did you feel to see your son march into the courtroom? 540 00:33:47,250 --> 00:33:48,250 Embarrassed. 541 00:33:49,610 --> 00:33:55,510 Imagine. For his religious anxieties, he felt it easier to hire a lawyer, to 542 00:33:55,510 --> 00:33:59,790 face a judge, than to face his own parents. 543 00:34:01,150 --> 00:34:05,010 Well, I don't think it was that he couldn't face us, Judge. It was just he 544 00:34:05,010 --> 00:34:07,910 probably thought he wouldn't get much help. We're a little wobbly on the 545 00:34:07,910 --> 00:34:08,909 subject. 546 00:34:09,190 --> 00:34:10,230 And you're not alone. 547 00:34:11,610 --> 00:34:12,670 Here's the bottom line. 548 00:34:13,770 --> 00:34:14,949 Mr. Wormwell's right. 549 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:21,380 If I authorize the teaching of creationism, the appellate courts will 550 00:34:21,380 --> 00:34:22,380 me with cannons. 551 00:34:23,179 --> 00:34:26,960 Even worse, I could get love poems from Orrin Hatch. 552 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:33,600 What I'd like to do is let Mr. Sawyer quietly teach his class. 553 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:36,659 I'd like this case to be dropped. 554 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:43,820 So I'm talking to the parents and the lawyer to help me out. 555 00:34:48,489 --> 00:34:50,110 Oh, we'll talk to Zachary. 556 00:34:52,889 --> 00:34:53,889 And you. 557 00:34:54,250 --> 00:34:56,010 I need you to let it go. 558 00:34:57,390 --> 00:35:00,330 I'll be watching to make sure he stays secular. 559 00:35:02,150 --> 00:35:03,150 But okay. 560 00:35:09,090 --> 00:35:10,850 You're telling me he'll go free? 561 00:35:11,610 --> 00:35:15,170 I think so. I'm sorry. 562 00:35:17,109 --> 00:35:20,370 I got you. I'm okay. I'm sorry. You get your hands off me, huh? 563 00:35:21,270 --> 00:35:23,130 Maybe we should go see Joe. You're going to stay right here. 564 00:35:24,410 --> 00:35:25,410 We're going to fix this. 565 00:36:09,420 --> 00:36:11,880 Don't move. Call the paramedics. Watch my hand, please. 566 00:36:14,720 --> 00:36:15,800 It's going to be okay. 567 00:36:16,940 --> 00:36:22,660 Tell them the bullet exited and locked a lot of blood. Check the blood volume. 568 00:36:26,260 --> 00:36:27,840 Don't move it. It'll be okay. 569 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:30,840 I'm sorry. 570 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:31,939 It's okay. 571 00:36:31,940 --> 00:36:32,940 It's my fault. 572 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:36,240 I didn't yell at her. Susie never would have... Stop it, John. It isn't your 573 00:36:36,240 --> 00:36:37,680 fault. Stop it. Please forgive me, okay? 574 00:36:38,750 --> 00:36:39,970 I'm so sorry. Time to go to the hospital. 575 00:36:40,490 --> 00:36:42,330 Let them take care of you. You be in that courthouse. 576 00:36:43,050 --> 00:36:44,050 You hear me? 577 00:36:44,130 --> 00:36:45,930 You be in that room. One of us has to be there. 578 00:36:46,610 --> 00:36:47,610 Okay, 579 00:36:49,350 --> 00:36:50,750 go. Take him. Got it. Let's go. 580 00:36:51,190 --> 00:36:52,190 Coming through. 581 00:36:57,190 --> 00:36:58,250 You had to, Penny. 582 00:36:59,310 --> 00:37:00,930 You would have killed the guy you had to. 583 00:37:02,350 --> 00:37:03,350 Right. 584 00:37:26,410 --> 00:37:27,550 The court will come to order. 585 00:37:36,450 --> 00:37:40,910 If a defendant says he doesn't want to speak without his lawyer, that is it. 586 00:37:42,190 --> 00:37:43,450 There is an exception. 587 00:37:44,750 --> 00:37:51,050 If the defendant waives his right to counsel and chooses to speak anyway, 588 00:37:51,050 --> 00:37:53,010 the statement is admissible. 589 00:37:53,670 --> 00:37:55,030 But the relinquishment... 590 00:37:55,370 --> 00:37:59,750 of his right to counsel must be intentional and voluntary. 591 00:38:00,790 --> 00:38:04,870 Unfortunately, that's where God comes back into play. 592 00:38:06,110 --> 00:38:12,710 The Supreme Court has also held that a God -fearing religious person 593 00:38:12,710 --> 00:38:19,270 may lack capacity to waive counsel when his free will has been compromised 594 00:38:19,270 --> 00:38:20,690 by his faith. 595 00:38:21,130 --> 00:38:23,590 So, if Mr. Latham... 596 00:38:24,110 --> 00:38:29,310 revealed the whereabouts of the body, in keeping with his Christian sympathies, 597 00:38:29,350 --> 00:38:32,650 I am supposed to set him free. 598 00:38:33,590 --> 00:38:36,430 Well, here's a novel idea. 599 00:38:37,450 --> 00:38:43,910 I'm going to hold that a person can be deeply religious and yet 600 00:38:43,910 --> 00:38:45,150 still be competent. 601 00:38:45,910 --> 00:38:46,910 Imagine that. 602 00:38:48,690 --> 00:38:49,770 Mr. Latham. 603 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:54,780 You allegedly killed and murdered a 16 -year -old girl. 604 00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:58,280 I don't give a damn what the Supreme Court says. 605 00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:02,860 I don't care that the police botched a constitutional technicality. 606 00:39:03,180 --> 00:39:07,800 If the police screw up on procedure, then damn it, let's start punishing the 607 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:08,800 police. 608 00:39:09,580 --> 00:39:12,420 I'm a strong believer in the Bill of Rights. 609 00:39:12,780 --> 00:39:18,820 And I know we need to fend off government and police abuse, which is 610 00:39:19,850 --> 00:39:25,190 But if you really want to find dogma in America today, it's not in religion. 611 00:39:26,110 --> 00:39:30,050 It's in blind devotion to the Constitution. 612 00:39:31,590 --> 00:39:36,550 Criminals go free while we throw civil rights parades. 613 00:39:37,650 --> 00:39:38,810 I'm sick of it. 614 00:39:40,270 --> 00:39:45,090 I'm sick of the judicial system being more about winning and losing than it is 615 00:39:45,090 --> 00:39:46,290 about the truth. 616 00:39:49,710 --> 00:39:52,890 Mr. Latham, you are going to trial. 617 00:39:54,010 --> 00:39:58,470 If the Supreme Court has a problem with that, they can come and get me. 618 00:39:59,350 --> 00:40:01,550 Bailiff, take him into custody. 619 00:40:03,510 --> 00:40:04,510 Adjourned. 620 00:40:07,190 --> 00:40:08,190 Hey! 621 00:40:13,490 --> 00:40:16,590 This is not a happy day. 622 00:40:48,540 --> 00:40:49,960 I missed something. 623 00:40:50,180 --> 00:40:51,180 What happened? 624 00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:53,740 I don't know. 625 00:40:55,700 --> 00:40:58,060 But something tells me it's only the beginning. 46542

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