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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:02:13,166 --> 00:02:18,194 Thanks I just got back from Brazil where they don't have any fire codes, 2 00:02:18,738 --> 00:02:22,196 and if you think is uncomfortable you should see a meeting there. 3 00:02:22,742 --> 00:02:27,202 People packed so tight that there was a good question whetherthe 4 00:02:28,214 --> 00:02:33,208 oxygen level would suffice. Fortunately there wasn't a fire or it would have been a huge catastrophe. 5 00:02:34,754 --> 00:02:39,214 Well, the title you noticed had a question mark after it and the 6 00:02:39,759 --> 00:02:44,219 reason forthe question mark is that whatever has been happening for 7 00:02:45,265 --> 00:02:49,031 the past several months and is going on now, and howeveryou evaluate it, 8 00:02:49,269 --> 00:02:52,705 like it, hate it, orwhatever, it's pretty clearthat 9 00:02:53,072 --> 00:03:05,212 it cannot be a war on terror. In fact that's close to a logical necessity- at least if we accept certain pretty elementary assumptions 10 00:03:06,085 --> 00:03:09,248 and principles, so let me try to make those clear at the outset. 11 00:03:10,290 --> 00:03:15,250 The first principle guideline if you like is that we 12 00:03:16,296 --> 00:03:18,264 aught to, I wll try and I think that we should, bend over backwards 13 00:03:18,765 --> 00:03:23,259 to give the benefit of the doubt to the United States government 14 00:03:23,436 --> 00:03:29,272 whenever its possible. So, that if there is any dispute about howto interpret something, we wll assume they're right. 15 00:03:29,776 --> 00:03:35,237 The second guideline is that we should take very seriously the 16 00:03:36,316 --> 00:03:41,754 pronouncements ofleadership especially when they are made wth great 17 00:03:42,121 --> 00:03:47,753 sincerity and emotion. So for example when George Bush tells us that 18 00:03:48,294 --> 00:03:53,288 he is the most devote Christian since the Apostles, we should believe 19 00:03:53,433 --> 00:03:58,427 him, take him at his word and we should therefore conclude that he 20 00:03:58,638 --> 00:04:03,769 certainly has memorized, over and over again, in his Bible reading 21 00:04:04,344 --> 00:04:10,305 classes and in church, the famous definition ofhypocrite that's given in the gospels. 22 00:04:11,851 --> 00:04:17,312 Namely, the hypocrite is the person who applies to others standards that 23 00:04:18,358 --> 00:04:24,319 he refuses to apply to himself. So if you are not a hypocrite you 24 00:04:25,365 --> 00:04:31,326 assume that if something is right for us then it's right forthem and ifit is wrong when they do it, it is wrong when we do it. 25 00:04:32,372 --> 00:04:37,139 That is really elementary, and I assume that the President would 26 00:04:37,343 --> 00:04:47,344 agree and all ofhis admirers as well. So those are the principles that I would like to start wth. 27 00:04:48,388 --> 00:04:56,352 Well, a side comment, unless we can rise to that minimal level of moral 28 00:04:56,863 --> 00:05:03,894 integrity we should at least stop talking about things like human rights, 29 00:05:04,037 --> 00:05:12,342 right and wrong and good and evil and all such high afflatus things 30 00:05:12,412 --> 00:05:17,372 because all ourtalk should be dismissed, in fact dismissed wth 31 00:05:19,385 --> 00:05:22,320 complete repugnance unless we can at least rise to that minimal level. 32 00:05:22,388 --> 00:05:25,516 I think that's obvious and I hope there would be agreement on that too. 33 00:05:26,225 --> 00:05:29,319 Well wth that much in place, just that much for background let me 34 00:05:29,395 --> 00:05:34,389 formulate a thesis. The thesis is that we are all total hypocrites on 35 00:05:35,568 --> 00:05:42,872 any issue relating to terrorism. Now, let me clariify the notion 'we'. 36 00:05:43,443 --> 00:05:52,408 By 'we' I mean people like 'us'. People who have enough high degree 37 00:05:52,752 --> 00:06:01,888 of privilege, of training, resources, access to information for whom it is pretty easy to find out the truth about things 38 00:06:02,495 --> 00:06:07,228 If we want to. If we decide that that is ourvocation. And in the case in 39 00:06:07,333 --> 00:06:10,427 question, you don't really have to dig very deep it's all right on the surface. 40 00:06:11,471 --> 00:06:16,431 So when I say 'we', I mean that category. And I definitely mean to 41 00:06:16,776 --> 00:06:23,579 include myselfin 'we' because I have never proposed that our leaders 42 00:06:23,783 --> 00:06:28,243 be subjected to the kinds of punishment that I have recommended for 43 00:06:28,488 --> 00:06:31,457 enemies. So that is hypocrisy. So if there are people who escape it 44 00:06:32,492 --> 00:06:37,259 I really don't knowthem and have not come across them. 45 00:06:37,497 --> 00:06:40,261 It's a very powerful culture; it's hard to escape its grasp. 46 00:06:40,500 --> 00:06:48,430 So that's thesis number one. We are all total hypocrites, in the sense of the gospels, on the 47 00:06:48,641 --> 00:06:54,602 matter of terrorism. The second thesis is stronger namely that 48 00:06:54,981 --> 00:06:57,779 the first thesis is so obvious that it takes real effort to miss it. 49 00:06:58,317 --> 00:07:03,277 In fact, I should go home right nowbecause it is obvious 50 00:07:03,523 --> 00:07:08,119 Nevertheless, let me continue and say why I think both theses are correct. 51 00:07:09,028 --> 00:07:13,488 Well to begin wth, what is terrorism? Got to say something about that. 52 00:07:13,666 --> 00:07:18,626 That is supposed to be a really tough question. Academic seminars 53 00:07:18,838 --> 00:07:22,899 and graduate philosophy programmes and so on - a very vexing and 54 00:07:23,042 --> 00:07:28,070 complex question. However, in accordance wth the guidelines that 55 00:07:28,214 --> 00:07:33,516 I mentioned, I think there is a simple answer, namely we just take the official US definition of terrorism. 56 00:07:34,554 --> 00:07:40,823 Since we are accepting the pronouncements of our leaders literally, 57 00:07:41,194 --> 00:07:44,652 lets take their definition. In fact that is what I have always done. 58 00:07:44,864 --> 00:07:47,526 I have been writing about terrorism forthe last twenty years or so. 59 00:07:48,034 --> 00:07:53,370 Just accept the official definition. So for example a simple and 60 00:07:53,573 --> 00:07:59,534 important case is in the US army manual in 1984 which defines terrorism 61 00:07:59,879 --> 00:08:04,543 as the calculated use of violence orthe threat of violence to attain 62 00:08:05,585 --> 00:08:12,548 goals that are political, religious or ideological in nature. 63 00:08:12,725 --> 00:08:18,857 Well that seems simple, appropriate. A particularly good choice because of the timing - 1984. 64 00:08:19,232 --> 00:08:25,569 1984, you wll recall, was the time that the Reagan administration was 65 00:08:25,905 --> 00:08:30,365 waging a war against terrorism. Particularly what they called 66 00:08:30,610 --> 00:08:35,877 state supported international terrorism "a plague spread by 67 00:08:36,249 --> 00:08:40,583 depraved opponents of civilization itselfin a return to barbarism 68 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:45,584 and the modern age". I'm quoting George Shultz who was the 69 00:08:45,925 --> 00:08:52,888 administration moderate. The other guideline is that we wll keep to the moderates, not the extremists. 70 00:08:53,099 --> 00:08:58,059 So that's 1984. Reagan had come into office a couple of years earlier. 71 00:08:58,271 --> 00:09:01,604 His administration had immediately declared that the war against 72 00:09:01,741 --> 00:09:07,077 terrorism would be the focus of US foreign policy and they identified 73 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:15,745 two regions as the source of this plague by depraved opponents of civilization itself- Central America and the Middle East. 74 00:09:15,955 --> 00:09:22,622 And there was quite wde agreement on that and so in 1985, for example, 75 00:09:23,663 --> 00:09:33,265 every yearthe associated press has a pole of editors on the most important story of the year, and in 1985 the wnnerwas Middle East 76 00:09:33,472 --> 00:09:46,647 terrorism. So they agree. Right towards the end of that year, 1985, Shimon Peres, Israel's Prime Minister, came to Washington and Reagan 77 00:09:46,819 --> 00:09:54,658 and Peres denounced the evil scourge of terrorism, referring to the Middle East. 78 00:09:55,695 --> 00:09:59,654 Scholarship and experts also agree. There is a huge literature 79 00:09:59,832 --> 00:10:09,468 forthe last 20 years on terrorism, particularly state supported international terrorism. We don't have time reviewit but 80 00:10:09,709 --> 00:10:20,677 a good illustration which I wll keep to is the December 2001 issue of the journal Current History- good and serious journal, 81 00:10:20,853 --> 00:10:26,689 it's article called 'America at War' includes leading historians, 82 00:10:27,727 --> 00:10:34,326 specialists and experts on terrorism and they identiify the 1980's 83 00:10:34,533 --> 00:10:41,701 as the era of state sponsored terror, agreeing wth the Reagan administration. 84 00:10:41,774 --> 00:10:45,005 I agree wth that too. I think it was the era of state sponsored 85 00:10:45,211 --> 00:10:50,706 international terrorism. One leading author, Martha Crenshaw 86 00:10:50,816 --> 00:10:55,344 says that in that era the United States adopted a pro-active 87 00:10:55,554 --> 00:11:00,514 stance to deterthe plague. Mostly it's about the Middle East 88 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:04,719 but Central America is occasionally mentioned. For example US 89 00:11:04,830 --> 00:11:09,733 support for one ortwo authors or co-authors from The Workman's 90 00:11:09,835 --> 00:11:19,733 Institution describe the US Contra War against Nicaragua as a model for howto fight a war against terrorism. 91 00:11:20,780 --> 00:11:25,740 They say that was a model for US support forthe Northern Alliance 92 00:11:26,786 --> 00:11:31,746 in the current phase of the war against terrorism. The seeds 93 00:11:31,857 --> 00:11:36,760 of contemporary terrorism however are much deeperthough. 94 00:11:36,862 --> 00:11:43,768 The major historian in the group, David Rapoport - the leading 95 00:11:43,869 --> 00:11:47,771 academic specialist on terrorism, editor of the Journal ofTerrorism and so on. 96 00:11:47,873 --> 00:11:52,401 He points out that it goes back to the origins of modern 97 00:11:52,611 --> 00:11:55,774 terrorism, like Osama bin Laden, it goes back to the early 1960's 98 00:11:56,816 --> 00:12:01,776 and I am quoting him now, "when Vietcong terror against 99 00:12:01,887 --> 00:12:04,788 the American Goliath kindled the hopes that the Western 100 00:12:04,890 --> 00:12:10,795 heartland was vulnerable". I won't comment on that but, 101 00:12:10,896 --> 00:12:25,800 just as an exercise, you might try to find a historical analog to that statement somewhere. I'Iljust leave it at that. 102 00:12:26,846 --> 00:12:32,807 Without commenting, if you check through the scholarly literature you'll find the same story all the time, virtual exceptions. 103 00:12:33,986 --> 00:12:38,821 The world agreed wth the Reaganites too. In 1985, right 104 00:12:39,859 --> 00:12:43,818 after Reagan and Peres had denounced the evil scourge of 105 00:12:44,296 --> 00:12:46,787 terrorism, the General Assembly passed a resolution 106 00:12:46,866 --> 00:12:53,795 condemning terrorism, and in 1987, it passed a much stronger resolution and a much more explicit one denouncing terrorism 107 00:12:53,873 --> 00:13:00,836 in all its forms and calling on all states to do everything they can to fight against the plague and everything you like. 108 00:13:01,881 --> 00:13:06,841 It's true that that wasn't unanimous. There was one abstention 109 00:13:06,952 --> 00:13:11,787 namely Honduras and two votes against - the usual two. 110 00:13:11,891 --> 00:13:15,793 They gave their reasons forvoting against the major UN resolution 111 00:13:15,895 --> 00:13:21,299 on international terrorism, namely both states, The United States 112 00:13:21,834 --> 00:13:23,825 and Israel, pointed to the same paragraph as the reason for 113 00:13:23,903 --> 00:13:27,805 their negative vote. It was a paragraph that said that 'nothing 114 00:13:27,873 --> 00:13:30,808 in the present resolution could in any way prejudice the 115 00:13:30,876 --> 00:13:39,409 right to self determination, freedom and independence, as derived from the United Nations Charter, of people forcibly 116 00:13:39,485 --> 00:13:47,392 derived of that right, particularly peoples under colonial and racist regimes and foreign occupation, or could deprive 117 00:13:47,927 --> 00:13:54,389 them of the right to obtain support for others in these ends in accord wth the charterwth the United Nations'. 118 00:13:54,934 --> 00:13:58,597 That was the offending paragraph, and it is easy to understand 119 00:13:58,671 --> 00:14:03,904 why it raised a serious problem forthe United States and Israel. 120 00:14:03,976 --> 00:14:07,912 The African National Congress was identified officially as a 121 00:14:07,980 --> 00:14:16,888 terrorist organization in the United States and South Africa was officially an ally. But, the phrase 'struggle against colonial 122 00:14:16,956 --> 00:14:24,920 and racist regimes' plainly referred to the struggle of the ANC against the apartheid regimes. So that's unacceptable. 123 00:14:26,465 --> 00:14:31,926 The phrase foreign occupation, everyone understood referred 124 00:14:32,972 --> 00:14:34,940 to the Israeli occupation of the West Bank and Gaza, then in 125 00:14:35,007 --> 00:14:45,941 its 20th year. Extremely harsh and brutal from the beginning and continuing only because of decisive US military, economic 126 00:14:46,986 --> 00:14:53,949 and diplomatic support that runs up to the present. So obviously that was unacceptable. 127 00:14:54,994 --> 00:14:59,954 So therefore it was 153-2 wth one abstention. So it wasn't 128 00:15:01,500 --> 00:15:04,560 totally unanimous. It wasn't reported and it has disappeared 129 00:15:04,637 --> 00:15:08,903 from history. You can check to find out. Incidentally that's 130 00:15:08,974 --> 00:15:18,474 standard practice. When the master says something is wrong its dowr the memory hole, doesn't get reported and its forgotten. 131 00:15:19,518 --> 00:15:26,481 But it's there. If you want to look you can discover it, I'll give you the sources if you like. 132 00:15:26,592 --> 00:15:29,993 Well, Reagan at that time, let's recall, he and Peres were 133 00:15:30,129 --> 00:15:33,997 talking about the evil scourge of terrorism in the Middle East, 134 00:15:34,099 --> 00:15:40,732 George Shultz didn't entirely agree. He thought that what he called the most alarming manifestation of state sponsored 135 00:15:40,839 --> 00:15:52,774 terrorism was frighteningly close to home. Namely it was a 'cancer in our landmass, a cancer right nearby that was 136 00:15:52,985 --> 00:15:58,013 threatening to conquerthe hemisphere wth a revolution wthout borders'. 137 00:15:58,123 --> 00:16:07,794 A rather interesting propaganda fabrication revealed to be a fraud instantly but always used repeatedly afterwards, even by 138 00:16:07,933 --> 00:16:11,232 the same journals that explained why it was as total fabrication. 139 00:16:11,337 --> 00:16:16,900 It was just too useful to abandon. And there is also an interesting, if you think about it the 140 00:16:17,042 --> 00:16:21,035 fabrication had a certain element of truth in it, an important 141 00:16:21,146 --> 00:16:27,483 element of truth. We can come back to that if you like. Anyhowthis cancer in our land mass was threatening to conquer 142 00:16:27,619 --> 00:16:34,047 everything openly followng Hitler's Mein Kampf and we plainly had to do something about that. 143 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:40,060 There is a serious day in the United States called Law Day. 144 00:16:40,165 --> 00:16:45,102 Elsewhere in the world is called May Day. May 1st, a day for 145 00:16:45,204 --> 00:16:50,073 the support of the struggles of the American 146 00:16:50,175 --> 00:16:55,977 workers for an 8 hour day. But in the United States it's a jingoist holiday called Law Day. 147 00:16:56,048 --> 00:17:02,078 On Law Day 1985, President Reagan declared a 148 00:17:02,187 --> 00:17:10,094 National emergency because the government ofNicaragua 'constitutes an unusual and extraordinary threat to the 149 00:17:10,195 --> 00:17:16,191 national security and foreign policy of the United States'. That was renewed annually. 150 00:17:16,301 --> 00:17:21,034 George Schultz informed Congress that 'we must cut the 151 00:17:21,140 --> 00:17:25,600 Nicaraguan cancer out and not by gentle means', 152 00:17:25,711 --> 00:17:28,612 things are too serious forthat and so to quote Schultz, 153 00:17:28,714 --> 00:17:31,842 recall, the adminstration moderate. The 'good cop'. 154 00:17:32,718 --> 00:17:41,626 To quote Schultz he said "Negotiations are a euphemism for capitulation if the shadow of power is not cast across 155 00:17:42,628 --> 00:17:51,093 the bargaining table". He condemned those who "advocate utopian legalistic means like outside mediation, 156 00:17:51,203 --> 00:18:00,839 the United Nations, the World Court while ignoring the power element of the equation". I'll avoid quoting hard-liners. 157 00:18:00,946 --> 00:18:06,407 At that time the United States was exercising the power element 158 00:18:06,518 --> 00:18:11,478 of the equation wth mercenary forces based in Honduras 159 00:18:11,590 --> 00:18:14,957 attacking Nicaragua. They were underthe supervision of 160 00:18:15,060 --> 00:18:19,997 John Negroponte who was just appointed to run the diplomatic 161 00:18:20,099 --> 00:18:27,164 side of the diplomatic component of the current war on terror as the UN Ambassador. 162 00:18:27,272 --> 00:18:30,605 The military component of the current war on terror is 163 00:18:30,709 --> 00:18:34,770 Donald Rumsfeld who at that time was Ronald Reagan's 164 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:43,185 special envoy to the Middle East; the other place where the plague was raging through 1985 in fact. 165 00:18:43,288 --> 00:18:52,128 The United States at that time was also blocking utopian, legalistic means that were being pursued by the World Court, 166 00:18:52,231 --> 00:19:01,230 the Latin American countries and others, and it continued to block those means, right until the end, until the final 167 00:19:01,340 --> 00:19:11,215 victory ofits terrorist wars throughout central America. Well, howwas the war against state sponsored terrorism 168 00:19:11,283 --> 00:19:20,214 waged in those two regions by the people who in fact are leading the newphase, so pretty close historical 169 00:19:20,325 --> 00:19:22,225 continuity not just those two of course. 170 00:19:22,294 --> 00:19:31,032 Well, just to illustrate, lets pick the peak year, 171 00:19:31,737 --> 00:19:34,171 the worst year, 1985 in the Middle East. 172 00:19:34,273 --> 00:19:39,233 Top story of the year. So who wns the prize forthe worst acts of terrorism in the Middle East in 1985? 173 00:19:39,344 --> 00:19:45,249 Well I know of three candidates, maybe you can suggest a different one. 174 00:19:45,384 --> 00:19:55,259 One candidate is a car bombing in Beirut in 1985. The carwas placed outside a Mosque. 175 00:19:55,394 --> 00:20:00,263 The bomb was timed to go off when people were leaving to make sure it killed the maximum number of people. 176 00:20:00,399 --> 00:20:06,269 It killed, according to the Washing Post, 80 people. 177 00:20:06,371 --> 00:20:10,774 It wounded over 250, mostly women and girls leaving the mosque. 178 00:20:11,310 --> 00:20:14,768 There was a huge explosion so it blewup the whole street 179 00:20:15,314 --> 00:20:18,772 killing babies in beds and so on and so forth. 180 00:20:19,318 --> 00:20:22,776 The bomb was aimed at a Muslim Sheik who escaped. 181 00:20:23,322 --> 00:20:26,780 It was set offby the CIA in collaboration wth 182 00:20:27,326 --> 00:20:32,229 British Intelligence and Saudi Intelligence and 183 00:20:32,331 --> 00:20:37,291 specifically authorized by William Casey according to Bob Woodwards, 184 00:20:37,402 --> 00:20:38,801 the History of Casey and the CIA. So that is a 185 00:20:39,338 --> 00:20:42,796 clear-cut example of International Terrorism. 186 00:20:43,342 --> 00:20:46,800 Very unambiguous and I think it is one of the 187 00:20:47,346 --> 00:20:49,610 candidates forthe prize forthe peak year of 1985. 188 00:20:49,982 --> 00:20:57,821 Another candidate surely would be the so-called Iron Fist operations 189 00:20:58,357 --> 00:21:01,292 that Shimon Peres Government was carrying out in occupied 190 00:21:01,393 --> 00:21:08,265 southern Lebanon in March of 1985. This is in Southern Lebanon, 191 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:12,598 which was under military occupation in violation of the 192 00:21:12,704 --> 00:21:19,268 Security Council orderto leave, but wth US authorization. 193 00:21:19,378 --> 00:21:29,845 The Iron Fist operations were targeting what the high command called 'terrorist villagers in Southern Lebanon'. 194 00:21:29,955 --> 00:21:40,854 It included many massacres and atrocities and kidnapping of people for interrogation and taking them to Israel and so on. 195 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:44,858 It reached new depths of calculated brutality and arbitrary 196 00:21:44,970 --> 00:21:49,873 murder according to a western diplomat familiarwth the region, 197 00:21:49,975 --> 00:21:57,882 who was observing. There was no pretense of self-defense rather it was openly undertaken for political ends. It was conceded 198 00:21:57,983 --> 00:22:04,889 it wasn't even argued. So that's a clear case ofinternational terrorism although here we might say that it is aggression. 199 00:22:05,424 --> 00:22:13,331 I'll call it just international terrorism in line wth the principle that we bend over backwards to give the United States 200 00:22:13,432 --> 00:22:20,338 the benefit of the doubt. Of course this is a US operation. Israel does it because they are given arms and aid diplomatic 201 00:22:20,439 --> 00:22:22,907 support by the United States. 202 00:22:23,442 --> 00:22:25,910 So we wll decide to call this just international terrorism 203 00:22:26,011 --> 00:22:29,913 not the much more serious war crime of aggression. 204 00:22:30,015 --> 00:22:36,921 The same incidentally was true of the much worst operations of 205 00:22:37,022 --> 00:22:46,920 1982 when Israel invaded Lebanon and killed maybe twenty thousand or so people. Again, crucial US military, economic and 206 00:22:47,466 --> 00:22:52,927 diplomatic support. The US had to veto a couple of Security Council resolutions to keep the slaughter going, provided the arms and 207 00:22:53,472 --> 00:22:58,933 so on for it. So it's a US/Israeli invasion if we are honest. 208 00:22:59,044 --> 00:23:12,947 "The goal was to install a friendly regime in Lebanon and oust the PLO, which would help persuade the Palestinians 209 00:23:13,492 --> 00:23:18,953 to accept Israeli rule in the West Bank and Gaza". That's actually accurate and I have to compliment the 210 00:23:19,498 --> 00:23:23,958 New York Times in saying that on January 24th. 211 00:23:24,503 --> 00:23:26,971 As far as I knowthis is the first time in mainstream US literature 212 00:23:27,072 --> 00:23:30,974 that anyone has dared to say what was absolutely common knowledge 213 00:23:31,076 --> 00:23:38,983 in Israel and in the dissident literature 20 years ago. I was writing this in 1983 just using Israeli sources but it 214 00:23:39,518 --> 00:23:43,978 couldn't penetrate US commentary. You might check and see. As far as I know, this was the first break through. 215 00:23:44,523 --> 00:23:47,492 I am not sure the reporter understood what he was saying. 216 00:23:48,527 --> 00:23:54,488 But anyway he did say that - James Bennet January 24th, 217 00:23:55,534 --> 00:23:58,002 prize for James Bennet fortelling the truth after 20years. 218 00:23:58,103 --> 00:24:04,008 And its true, and of course it's a textbook illustration of 219 00:24:04,109 --> 00:24:11,015 international terrorism. This time we have to bend over backwards pretty farto call it international terrorism because 220 00:24:11,116 --> 00:24:21,014 it is hard to say why this isn't overt aggression - the kind of action forwhich US and Israeli leaders should be subjected to 221 00:24:21,126 --> 00:24:30,034 Nuremberg trials. Real serious war crimes. But again lets keep to the guidelines and lets say its only international terrorism. 222 00:24:30,569 --> 00:24:36,337 Well that's the second example. The Iron Fist operations. 223 00:24:36,541 --> 00:24:41,035 Third. The only other example from 1985 that I know of took 224 00:24:41,112 --> 00:24:46,049 place two days before Shimon Peres arrived in Washington to 225 00:24:46,151 --> 00:24:50,053 join Reagan in denouncing the evil scourge of terrorism. 226 00:24:50,155 --> 00:25:04,058 Shortly before that, Peres sent the Israeli airforce to bomb Tunis killing 75 civilizations, torn to shreds wth smart bombs. 227 00:25:04,135 --> 00:25:07,070 It was all rather accurately and graphically depicted by a 228 00:25:07,138 --> 00:25:13,077 highly respected Israeli reporter in the Hebrewpress in 229 00:25:13,178 --> 00:25:17,080 Israel and cooperated by other sources. The United States 230 00:25:17,182 --> 00:25:24,520 cooperated wth that by wthdrawng the 6th fleet so that they did not have to inform their ally, Tunisia, that the bombers 231 00:25:24,623 --> 00:25:34,089 were on theirway. Presumably getting refueled on the way. So that's the third candidate. I don't know of any other 232 00:25:34,199 --> 00:25:40,104 candidates that even come close to being candidates for? 233 00:25:40,205 --> 00:25:43,106 Incidentally, George Schultz, the moderate, immediately afterthe 234 00:25:43,174 --> 00:25:47,110 bombing, he telephoned the Israeli Foreign Ministerto say that 235 00:25:47,212 --> 00:25:56,120 the United States had considerable sympathy forthis operation but he backed away from open support for massive international terrorism 236 00:25:56,221 --> 00:26:07,120 or maybe aggression when the security council unanimously condemned the attack as an attack of armed aggression. 237 00:26:07,666 --> 00:26:10,931 The United Stated again abstaining against that. 238 00:26:11,236 --> 00:26:17,141 So those are the top three cases that wn the prize for 1985 to 239 00:26:17,676 --> 00:26:22,136 my knowledge and again I'll assume that these are just 240 00:26:22,681 --> 00:26:27,141 international terrorism so we are not calling for Nuremberg trials. 241 00:26:27,686 --> 00:26:32,146 Just more international terrorism by depraved opponents of civilizations itself, and examples which are pretty hard to miss 242 00:26:32,691 --> 00:26:39,358 remember because these are the peak stories of the year. International terrorism in the Middle East there's three 243 00:26:39,464 --> 00:26:44,163 perfect examples. In fact the only three major examples that I know of. 244 00:26:45,203 --> 00:26:50,664 However, they aren't candidates. In fact, they are not even in the running. They are not competitive. 245 00:26:50,775 --> 00:27:00,173 The examples that are in the running are for example cited in the Current History issue, to which I referred, 246 00:27:00,719 --> 00:27:08,182 which does discuss 1985 and gives two examples of the evil scourge of terrorism. Namely the hijacking ofTWA897, 247 00:27:08,727 --> 00:27:16,190 killing one American navy diver and the hijacking of the Achille Lauro which led to the 248 00:27:16,735 --> 00:27:22,196 killing of Klinghoffer, a crippled American. 249 00:27:23,241 --> 00:27:28,702 Both surely terrorist atrocities. Those are the two examples that are in the running, 250 00:27:29,748 --> 00:27:36,210 that are memorable, that count for international terrorism. Well the hijackers forthe TWA plane claim, 251 00:27:36,755 --> 00:27:43,217 correctly in fact, that Israel was regularly high jacking ships in the international waters in transit between 252 00:27:43,762 --> 00:27:53,660 Lebanon and Cyprus, killing people and kidnapping others, taking them to Israel, eitherfor interrogation 253 00:27:53,772 --> 00:28:05,673 or simply as hostages, keeping them in jail foryears. Some people are still in jail wthout charges. 254 00:28:05,784 --> 00:28:12,246 But that doesn't justiify the hijacking on the assumption, which I accept at least, that violence is not legitimate 255 00:28:12,791 --> 00:28:24,692 in retaliation against even worst atrocities or as preemption against future atrocities. 256 00:28:24,803 --> 00:28:29,706 Violence is not legitimate in such cases so we can dismiss those claims though they are in fact correct. 257 00:28:29,808 --> 00:28:33,266 Incidentally, the US-Israeli hijackings, and remember, if Israel does it we are doing it, 258 00:28:33,812 --> 00:28:40,274 those hijackings are also out of the historical records. 259 00:28:40,819 --> 00:28:43,287 Occasionally you find a reference to them in the 260 00:28:43,388 --> 00:28:47,290 bottom of a column on something or other, but they are not part of the history of terrorism. 261 00:28:47,392 --> 00:28:58,291 The hijackers of the Achille Lauro claimed that this was retaliation forthe bombing ofTunis 262 00:28:58,403 --> 00:29:01,668 a couple of days earlier. Well, we dismiss that wth contempt on the same principle, 263 00:29:01,773 --> 00:29:11,307 namely violence is not justified in retaliation or preemption. 264 00:29:11,850 --> 00:29:17,311 Assuming that we can rise to the minimal, moral, 265 00:29:17,856 --> 00:29:23,317 level that I mentioned earlier- if we are not confirmed 266 00:29:23,862 --> 00:29:28,322 hypocrites in otherwords - then some consequences follow about other acts of retaliation and preemption, but that's too obvious 267 00:29:28,433 --> 00:29:35,339 to talk about, so I wlljust leave it foryou to think about. Well that's 1985 - the peak year ofinternational terrorism 268 00:29:35,874 --> 00:29:40,334 in the Middle East. 269 00:29:40,879 --> 00:29:45,339 As a research project, you might see if I have left out anything that is a competitorforthe prize 270 00:29:45,884 --> 00:29:50,344 that I am not aware of. None are mentioned on the literature on terrorism. 271 00:29:50,889 --> 00:29:55,349 As I said at the beginning you don't really have to work very hard to see these things. 272 00:29:55,894 --> 00:30:04,825 You have to work very hard not to see them; it takes a really good education to miss this. 273 00:30:05,370 --> 00:30:10,808 1985 was of course not the first orthe last act of 274 00:30:10,909 --> 00:30:14,367 international terrorism in the Middle East. There are many others that are very important. 275 00:30:14,479 --> 00:30:24,377 For example, in 1975, Israel, meaning Israeli pilots wth US planes and US support, 276 00:30:24,923 --> 00:30:30,384 in December 1975 they bombed a village in Lebanon killing over 50 people. No pre-text was offered, 277 00:30:30,929 --> 00:30:36,390 but everybody knewwhat the reason was. 278 00:30:36,935 --> 00:30:39,403 At that time the UN security council was meeting to 279 00:30:39,504 --> 00:30:50,403 consider a resolution which was supported by the entire world wth marginal exceptions, only one crucial exception, 280 00:30:50,949 --> 00:30:56,410 the United States which vetoed the resolution, calling for a diplomatic settlement of the Israel-Palestine conflict, 281 00:30:56,487 --> 00:31:04,417 incorporating the UN 242 and all ofits wording of the main resolution, security and territorial integrity 282 00:31:04,963 --> 00:31:11,425 and all those nice things on the internationally recognized border. 283 00:31:11,970 --> 00:31:14,438 The offending part of this one was that it also 284 00:31:14,505 --> 00:31:19,442 referred to Palestinian National Rights and that's not acceptable 285 00:31:19,510 --> 00:31:26,439 to the United States. It rejected them then, and it rejects them now, contrary to a lot of nonsense that you read. 286 00:31:26,551 --> 00:31:35,459 The US vetoed the resolution that continued year afteryear, and is still going on now, of efforts of diplomatic settlement, 287 00:31:35,994 --> 00:31:41,455 which the US has unilaterally blocked. Israel does not have a veto at the Security Council 288 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:47,461 so they reacted to the debate by bombing Lebanon and killing about 50 people wthout a pretext. 289 00:31:48,006 --> 00:31:53,467 That's not in the annals ofinternational terrorisms either. 290 00:32:05,556 --> 00:32:08,491 The US supported both of them, lots of deaths, 291 00:32:08,593 --> 00:32:17,501 hundreds of thousands of people driven out and so on. Clinton had to back offhis support forthe 1996 invasion 292 00:32:18,036 --> 00:32:24,965 afterthe Qana massacre, over a hundred people in a UN refugee camp. At the point he said, can't handle this any more, you better leave. 293 00:32:25,043 --> 00:32:29,503 There was no pretext of self-defense in this case. 294 00:32:30,548 --> 00:32:36,509 This is just outright international terrorism or maybe aggression. 295 00:32:37,055 --> 00:32:38,522 And it continues. So lets go up to the current intifada, 296 00:32:38,623 --> 00:32:47,531 which broke out on September 30th of year 2000. In the first couple of days there was no fire from Palestinians, 297 00:32:47,632 --> 00:32:57,530 some stone throwng, but Israel was in fact using US attack helicopters to attack civilian appartment complexes and so on, 298 00:32:58,076 --> 00:33:04,538 killing and wounding dozens of people in the first few days. The Clinton administration responded to this by, 299 00:33:04,649 --> 00:33:10,554 I'll borrow our President's phrase, by 'enhancing terror'. 300 00:33:10,621 --> 00:33:16,560 You recall President Bush condemned the Palestinians for 301 00:33:16,661 --> 00:33:18,561 enhancing terror last month, so I'll use his phrase in line 302 00:33:18,663 --> 00:33:20,563 wth the guidelines. The Clinton Administration committed 303 00:33:20,665 --> 00:33:31,564 itself to enhancing terror on October 3rd by making a deal forthe biggest shipment in a decade of military helicopters 304 00:33:31,676 --> 00:33:38,582 to Israel along wth spare parts forthe Apache attack helicopters that were sent a couple of weeks earlier. 305 00:33:38,683 --> 00:33:46,590 That's enhancing terror. In days right after, these helicopters were being used to murder and wound civilians, attacking apartment 306 00:33:46,691 --> 00:33:54,598 complexes and so on. The press cooperated by refusing to report this. 307 00:33:54,699 --> 00:34:02,037 Note: Not failing to report it - refusing to report it. It was specifically brought to the attention of editors and 308 00:34:02,140 --> 00:34:13,074 they simply made it clearthat they were not going to report it. There is no question about the facts incidentally, but to this 309 00:34:13,718 --> 00:34:18,621 day it has not been reported, except in the margins. That policy continues, skip to December 2001, 310 00:34:19,157 --> 00:34:29,055 George Bush was condemning the Palestinians for enhancing terror and he contributed in the conventional ways to enhancing terror, 311 00:34:29,167 --> 00:34:33,627 in crucial ways in fact. 312 00:34:34,672 --> 00:34:39,632 On December 15th the UN Security Council debated a European 313 00:34:40,178 --> 00:34:45,639 initiated resolution, calling on both sides to reduce violence and 314 00:34:46,184 --> 00:34:51,645 calling forthe introduction ofinternational monitors to assist 315 00:34:52,190 --> 00:35:00,097 in monitoring a reduction of violence. That's a very important step. That was vetoed by the United States. It went to the... who want 316 00:35:00,198 --> 00:35:03,656 to enhance violence It's hard to think of any other interpretation of this. The press didn't have to bother giving an interpretation 317 00:35:04,202 --> 00:35:11,665 The press didn't have to bother giving and interpretation because it was barely reported. 318 00:35:12,210 --> 00:35:14,678 It then went to the General Assembly where it wasn't reported 319 00:35:14,745 --> 00:35:21,674 at all and there was an overwhelming vote supporting the same resolution. This time the United States and Israel were not 320 00:35:21,786 --> 00:35:29,693 entirely isolated in opposition as several Pacific Islands joined in - Nauru and one ortwo others. So therefore, not the usual 321 00:35:30,228 --> 00:35:36,690 splendid isolation. 322 00:35:37,235 --> 00:35:41,695 I don't recall that that was reported. About 10 days before that 323 00:35:42,240 --> 00:35:46,700 there was another major contribution to enhancing terror. 324 00:35:47,245 --> 00:35:51,705 The fourth Geneva conventions, according to the entire world, 325 00:35:52,250 --> 00:35:56,710 literally, outside of Israel, applied to the occupied territories. 326 00:35:57,255 --> 00:36:05,720 The United States refuses. It doesn't vote against this when it comes up in the United Nations. It abstains. I presume the reason 327 00:36:06,264 --> 00:36:10,724 is the United States doesn't want to take such an open blatant stand in violation of fundamental principles ofinternational law, 328 00:36:11,269 --> 00:36:14,727 particularly because of the circumstances underwhich they were enacted. 329 00:36:14,839 --> 00:36:20,744 If you recall the Geneva Conventions were established right after 330 00:36:20,811 --> 00:36:23,746 the 2nd world war in orderto criminalize the acts of the Nazis, 331 00:36:23,848 --> 00:36:27,750 so saying they don't apply is pretty strong statement. However, 332 00:36:27,852 --> 00:36:32,755 outside of the United States and Israel, the whole world agrees. 333 00:36:32,857 --> 00:36:35,758 The international Red Cross, which is the Agency responsible for 334 00:36:35,860 --> 00:36:44,768 applying and interpreting them agrees. In fact, as far as I am aware, there is no further question about this. Swtzerland, which is the 335 00:36:44,869 --> 00:36:51,775 responsible state, called a meeting of the high contracting parties forthe Geneva conventions, that is, those like the United States 336 00:36:52,310 --> 00:36:55,768 that are legally obligated by treaty to enforce them. 337 00:36:55,846 --> 00:36:59,782 A high solemn commitment, called a meeting on December 338 00:36:59,884 --> 00:37:06,790 5th in Geneva and the meeting took place and passed a strong 339 00:37:06,891 --> 00:37:14,798 resolution determining that the Geneva conventions do apply to the Occupied Territories which makes illegaljust about 340 00:37:15,333 --> 00:37:19,793 everything that the United States and Israel do there. They went through the list - settlements, displacements and 341 00:37:20,338 --> 00:37:23,796 everything that goes on. 342 00:37:23,908 --> 00:37:27,810 The United States boycotted the sessions. They got another 343 00:37:27,878 --> 00:37:34,807 country to boycott them - Australia. According to the Australian press, under heavy US pressure Australia joined 344 00:37:34,919 --> 00:37:41,825 in boycotting them. If the US boycotts it its like a negative vote at the Security Council orthe General Assembly. 345 00:37:41,926 --> 00:37:48,832 It doesn't get reported and it's out ofhistory. But that's another important step to enhancing terror. 346 00:37:49,367 --> 00:37:53,827 All this took place incidentally in the midst of a 21 day truce. 347 00:37:53,938 --> 00:37:57,840 A one sided truce. The Palestinians weren't carrying out any 348 00:37:57,908 --> 00:38:05,838 acts but a couple of dozen Palestinians were killed, including a dozen children. That was right in the middle of 349 00:38:05,950 --> 00:38:13,857 these efforts to enhance terrortook place. Maybe that's an unfair interpretation and there is some other motive that I'm 350 00:38:13,958 --> 00:38:21,865 not thinking of, but that's what they look like to me. You can think about that. In any event International Terrorism 351 00:38:21,932 --> 00:38:27,871 in the Middle East certainly continues and has a long history and if you look overthe record of course it is mixed and 352 00:38:27,972 --> 00:38:36,880 complicated but I think you wll find that the balance is pretty much along the lines that I described, in fact the 353 00:38:37,415 --> 00:38:40,179 balance reflects the means of violence available as it usually does. 354 00:38:40,384 --> 00:38:47,881 If you look around at terror, in fact, that's why, in the whole 355 00:38:48,426 --> 00:38:56,356 range of terror, state terror is farworse than individual terror forthe obvious reason that States have means of violence that 356 00:38:56,434 --> 00:39:06,332 individuals don't have, or groups. And that's what you find if you look, I think overwhelmingly. It is commonly said that 357 00:39:06,444 --> 00:39:10,346 That's completely false - at least if you accept the official 358 00:39:10,448 --> 00:39:16,910 US definition of terror. If you do that then terror is overwhelming the weapon of the strong like most otherweapons. 359 00:39:16,987 --> 00:39:28,922 Well that's history but all of this stuffis out ofhistory. History is what is created by well-educated intellectuals and 360 00:39:29,467 --> 00:39:38,375 it doesn't have to have any resemblance to that thing called history by naive people and if you check this I think you wll 361 00:39:38,476 --> 00:39:40,740 find this true. 362 00:39:40,945 --> 00:39:43,937 Well that's the Middle East; lets turn to Central America 363 00:39:44,014 --> 00:39:48,951 the other main focus of the plague by depraved opponents of 364 00:39:49,019 --> 00:39:57,950 civilizations itself. Here I wll be briefbecause the core parts are uncontroversial. At least uncontroversial among 365 00:39:58,028 --> 00:40:06,026 people who have minimal regard for international lawand international institutions and so on. Actually the size of that 366 00:40:06,103 --> 00:40:14,977 category is very easily estimated. Namely, ask yourselfhow often what I'm about to say has appeared in the discussions 367 00:40:15,079 --> 00:40:21,985 about the evil plague of terrorism in the past five months. 368 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:23,987 Huge flood but howmuch has been devoted to some uncontroversial 369 00:40:24,088 --> 00:40:28,991 cases, again uncontroversial if you think the World Court and 370 00:40:29,093 --> 00:40:32,995 Security Council and international lawhave some significance. 371 00:40:33,063 --> 00:40:38,000 Well in 1986, the International Court of Justice condemned the 372 00:40:38,068 --> 00:40:44,997 United States for international terrorism - unlawful use of force in its war against Nicaragua. Again I am going to keep 373 00:40:45,075 --> 00:40:53,005 to the guidelines, bend over backwards, and allowthis to be interpreted just as international terrorism, not the war crime 374 00:40:53,083 --> 00:41:01,457 of aggression. So we wll call it international terrorism. The court ordered the United States to terminate the crimes 375 00:41:01,559 --> 00:41:06,019 and to pay substantial reparations - millions of dollars. 376 00:41:06,096 --> 00:41:11,033 Congress reacted by instantly escalating the war by newfunding 377 00:41:11,101 --> 00:41:20,032 to escalate the war. Nicaragua took the matterto the Security Council, which debated a resolution calling on all states to observe 378 00:41:20,110 --> 00:41:29,485 international law, mentioning no one but everyone who was meant. The US vetoed it. Nicaragua then went to the general Assembly 379 00:41:29,587 --> 00:41:37,494 which past similar resolutions in successive years. The United States and Israel apposed and in one yearthey got 380 00:41:37,595 --> 00:41:39,028 El Salvador. 381 00:41:39,563 --> 00:41:44,057 All of this is out ofhistory. It has to be. It is just inconsistent 382 00:41:44,134 --> 00:41:49,071 wth their preferred image of what history is supposed to be and, 383 00:41:49,139 --> 00:41:59,071 as I say, you can check howmuch, these uncontroversial cases have been referred to recently and rememberwho were the individuals 384 00:41:59,183 --> 00:42:05,088 responsible. People like Negroponte, Proconsul ofHonduras, 385 00:42:05,155 --> 00:42:09,091 Rumsfeld, special envoy to the Middle East, and so on, plenty of continuity. 386 00:42:09,159 --> 00:42:24,098 The US, as I said, reacted by escalating the war and forthe first time giving official orders to its mercenary forces to 387 00:42:24,174 --> 00:42:29,111 attack what are called 'soft targets'. That's what the Southern Command called them - 'soft targets' meaning 388 00:42:29,179 --> 00:42:36,108 undefended civilian targets like agricultural cooperatives and so on. That was knowr and it was discussed 389 00:42:36,186 --> 00:42:39,121 in the United States. 390 00:42:39,189 --> 00:42:41,123 It was considered legitimate by the 'Left', so 391 00:42:41,191 --> 00:42:49,121 Michael Kinsley who represents the 'Left' in the main stream debate, 392 00:42:49,233 --> 00:42:54,136 in an interesting article, he was then editor of the New Republic, in which he said that, we shouldn't be too quick to condemn 393 00:42:54,204 --> 00:43:04,136 State department authorization for attacks on undefended civilian targets, because we have to apply pragmatic criteria. 394 00:43:04,682 --> 00:43:10,143 We have to carry out cost benefit analysis and see whether, as he put it, the amount ofblood poured in is compensated 395 00:43:10,688 --> 00:43:15,148 by a good outcome namely democracy. 396 00:43:15,225 --> 00:43:18,160 What we wll determine to be democracy and what that means 397 00:43:18,262 --> 00:43:22,164 you can see by looking at the states next door like 398 00:43:22,232 --> 00:43:25,167 El Salvador and Guatemala which were OK democracies. 399 00:43:25,235 --> 00:43:29,171 And ifit passes ourtest then that's it, OK. So, in otherwords, 400 00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:39,171 international terrorism is fine assuming it meets pragmatic criteria nowacross the spectrum. Left or Right among 'we', 401 00:43:39,249 --> 00:43:49,181 that is educated and privileged intellectuals, not the population of course. In Nicaragua the population had an 402 00:43:49,259 --> 00:43:56,188 army to defend it. It was bad enough, ten's of thousands of people killed, the country practically devastated, 403 00:43:56,266 --> 00:44:05,197 may never recover, but it had an army to defend it. In El Salvador and Guatemala, that wasn't true, the army 404 00:44:05,309 --> 00:44:11,214 was the State terrorists. The US supported state terrorists. They were the army. There was no one to defend the population 405 00:44:11,281 --> 00:44:15,217 and in fact the atrocities were farworse. Also they are not 406 00:44:15,285 --> 00:44:23,215 a State so they could not go to the World Court orthe Security Council to followlegal means, of course wthout any effect, 407 00:44:23,293 --> 00:44:34,227 because 'we', people like us, have determined that the world is going to be ruled by force not by lawand since we have the power, 408 00:44:34,772 --> 00:44:40,233 as long as we determine that, a state that tries to followa legitimate means of responding to international terrorism 409 00:44:40,778 --> 00:44:42,245 doesn't having anything to do. 410 00:44:42,312 --> 00:44:45,247 But that's our choice, nobody else's choice. You can't blame 411 00:44:45,315 --> 00:44:56,249 anyone else on that. There was however popular resistance, not elite resistance, but popular resistance, to the atrocities 412 00:44:56,794 --> 00:45:06,260 there that the US had to resort to an international terrorist network- an extraordinary international terrorist network. 413 00:45:06,804 --> 00:45:12,265 Rememberthe US is a powerful state its not like Libya. If Libya wants to carry out terrorist acts they hire Carlos 414 00:45:12,810 --> 00:45:16,268 The Jackal or something 415 00:45:16,346 --> 00:45:20,282 The United States hires terrorist states - we're big guys. 416 00:45:20,350 --> 00:45:32,285 So the terrorist network consisted ofTaiwan, Britain, Israel, Argentina, at least as long as it was underthe rule of the 417 00:45:32,830 --> 00:45:39,292 neo Nazi generals. When they were unfortunately removed, they fell out of the system, Saudi Arabian funding. 418 00:45:39,837 --> 00:45:46,299 Quite a substantial international terrorist network, never been anything like it. In contemporary terms we 419 00:45:46,844 --> 00:45:50,302 might call it an 'Axis of Evil' I suppose. 420 00:45:50,380 --> 00:45:56,319 The outcome, again keeping to the guidelines - we believe 421 00:45:56,386 --> 00:46:01,323 our leaders, was hundred of thousands of people slaughtered 422 00:46:01,391 --> 00:46:06,328 and millions of orphans and refugees. Every conceivable atrocity. 423 00:46:06,430 --> 00:46:11,333 The region devastated. The single uncontroversial case, 424 00:46:11,401 --> 00:46:16,338 Nicaragua, which was the least of them, that alone far surpasses 425 00:46:16,406 --> 00:46:25,337 the crimes of September 11th and the others suffered farworse. Again we are bending over backwards and giving the US the 426 00:46:25,415 --> 00:46:32,150 benefit of the doubt so we are only calling it international terrorism organized by depraved opponents of civilization itself. 427 00:46:32,523 --> 00:46:38,359 Well that's the second major area, Central America. 428 00:46:39,396 --> 00:46:43,355 All of this however is off the record too, the 429 00:46:43,901 --> 00:46:48,361 Current History journal, and its typical in this respect, nothing that I have just referred to is mentioned. 430 00:46:48,438 --> 00:46:53,375 Nor is it in the whole scholarly literature in fact, except way at the margins. You can check and see. 431 00:46:53,443 --> 00:47:00,372 It just doesn't count. The 80's are described as the era of state sponsored international terrorism, but they 432 00:47:00,918 --> 00:47:03,386 are not referring to any of these things. 433 00:47:03,453 --> 00:47:12,384 The US was trying to prevent state sponsored international terrorism by taking pro-active means like the most massive 434 00:47:12,462 --> 00:47:18,401 international terrorist network that's ever been know. 435 00:47:18,468 --> 00:47:26,398 That's very typical of the scholarly literature journalism and again you can do a check. There has barely been a word 436 00:47:26,476 --> 00:47:37,410 on any of this as the second phase of the war on terrorism has been declared once again wth pretty much the same people 437 00:47:37,955 --> 00:47:43,723 and every reason to expect some more outcomes. 438 00:47:43,927 --> 00:47:48,421 Well, from all of this an obvious conclusion follows: There is an 439 00:47:48,498 --> 00:47:51,433 operational definition of terrorism, the one that is actually used. 440 00:47:51,501 --> 00:47:58,430 It means terrorthat they carry out against us - that's terrorism, 441 00:47:58,508 --> 00:48:04,447 nothing else passes through the filter. As far as I knowthat's a 442 00:48:04,514 --> 00:48:11,943 historical universal. I can't find an exception to that, you might try. 443 00:48:12,489 --> 00:48:14,457 For example the Japanese in China and Manchuria were defending 444 00:48:14,524 --> 00:48:20,463 the population against Chinese terrorist and going to create an 445 00:48:20,530 --> 00:48:24,466 earthy paradise forthem if they could control the terrorists. 446 00:48:24,534 --> 00:48:31,906 The Nazi's in occupied Europe were defending the legitimate governments likes Vichy and the population from the terrorist 447 00:48:31,975 --> 00:48:38,471 partisans who were supported from abroad, as indeed they were. They were run from London, Poland and France and so on. 448 00:48:38,548 --> 00:48:48,480 The fact that I say I can't find an exception, you might try, also as far as I am aware this is virtually universal among 449 00:48:49,026 --> 00:48:52,484 intellectuals, educated folks like us. 450 00:48:52,562 --> 00:48:56,498 Apart from statistical errorthis is the line that they take. 451 00:48:56,566 --> 00:48:59,501 Nowit doesn't look that way in history, but you have to remember 452 00:48:59,569 --> 00:49:06,941 who writes history. That ought to leave you wth a little skepticism. If you look at actual history not the one that's written I think 453 00:49:07,044 --> 00:49:16,009 you wll find that this is the case and I could even maybe suggest it as a research topic to some enterprising graduate student 454 00:49:16,086 --> 00:49:24,653 who aspires to a career as a taxi driver. 455 00:49:25,028 --> 00:49:30,523 Just to continue to the present, lets just take the last couple 456 00:49:31,068 --> 00:49:33,536 of months. September 11th was the perfectly clear example of 457 00:49:33,603 --> 00:49:39,974 international terrorism, no controversy about that so we don't have to waste time on it. What about the reaction? Well it 458 00:49:40,077 --> 00:49:47,540 turns out the reaction is also an uncontroversial case of international terrorism. Again lets keep to the guidelines 459 00:49:47,617 --> 00:49:50,552 we'Iljust listen to what our leaders say. 460 00:49:50,620 --> 00:50:05,991 So on October 11th President Bush announced to the Afghan people that we wll keep bombing you until you hand over 461 00:50:06,103 --> 00:50:08,571 people who we suspect of terrorist acts although we refuse 462 00:50:08,638 --> 00:50:12,574 to provide any evidence and we refuse to enter into any 463 00:50:12,642 --> 00:50:24,577 negotiations for extradition and transfer- a clear case of international terrorism. On October 28th the British counterpart 464 00:50:24,654 --> 00:50:36,054 Admiral Sir Michael Boyce, who is the Chief of the British Defense staff, took it a step further. Remember, getting rid 465 00:50:36,133 --> 00:50:40,570 of the Taliban Regime was not a war aim, that was an afterthought. 466 00:50:40,637 --> 00:50:43,606 Three weeks afterthe bombing began that was added presumably 467 00:50:44,141 --> 00:50:47,599 so that intellectuals would have something to feel good about 468 00:50:47,677 --> 00:50:57,609 or something, I don't know, anyway three weeks afterthe bombing, that was added as a newwar aim and Admiral Boyce announced to 469 00:50:58,155 --> 00:51:04,617 the Afghan people accordingly, I think this was the first mention of this war aim, that "we wll continue bombing you until you 470 00:51:05,162 --> 00:51:06,891 change your leadership". 471 00:51:06,963 --> 00:51:11,059 First, that was all very prominent, page 1 of the New York Times 472 00:51:11,168 --> 00:51:16,071 in both cases. Two, both cases are textbook illustrations of 473 00:51:16,173 --> 00:51:19,074 international terrorism if not aggression, but we are still 474 00:51:19,176 --> 00:51:24,637 bending over backwards, and it's all off the record by usual 475 00:51:24,714 --> 00:51:33,452 convention. We're doing it so it doesn't count. It's only when they carry out what we officially define as terrorism that it counts. 476 00:51:33,723 --> 00:51:39,662 Well, it's easy to go on, but let me just return to the weak thesis; 477 00:51:39,729 --> 00:51:45,668 there can't be a war against terrorism as terrorism is defined in 478 00:51:45,735 --> 00:51:54,666 official US documents. It's a logical impossibility. This is a small sample ofillustrations, you can go on easily, 479 00:51:55,212 --> 00:52:00,673 but it's enough to showthat that can't be true. Well that's the weak thesis. What about the strong thesis that it is all 480 00:52:01,218 --> 00:52:07,680 so entirely obvious that it would be embarrassing to talk about it because its all right on the surface 481 00:52:07,757 --> 00:52:10,692 nothing hidden about any of this. 482 00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:14,696 Everything that I mention is perfectly well knowr you don't 483 00:52:14,764 --> 00:52:20,703 have to penetrate anything to discover. No obscure sources, nothing. Just the obvious evidence. 484 00:52:20,770 --> 00:52:29,701 And you can easily add to it. There's a ton ofliterature about it forthe last 20 years, but that literature also can't be 485 00:52:29,779 --> 00:52:36,708 discussed because it comes out wth the wrong conclusion. So it's treated the same way terrorism is in our intellectual culture. 486 00:52:37,254 --> 00:52:40,712 Again, choice not a necessity. 487 00:52:40,790 --> 00:52:45,727 So we end up wth a kind of dilemma. If we are not honest, 488 00:52:45,795 --> 00:52:48,730 forget it. If we are honest there's a dilemma. 489 00:52:48,798 --> 00:52:54,065 One possibility is just to acknowledge that we are total hypocrites 490 00:52:54,137 --> 00:52:59,268 and then to at least have the decently to stop talking about 491 00:52:59,342 --> 00:53:07,750 human rights, right and wrong and good and evil and so on and say we are hypocrites and we have force and 492 00:53:07,817 --> 00:53:11,753 we are going to run the world by force, period. Lets forget about everything else. 493 00:53:11,821 --> 00:53:23,699 The other option is harderto pursue but it's imperative unless we would like to contribute to still worst disasters 494 00:53:23,767 --> 00:53:27,760 that are likely to lie ahead. 59674

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