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Thanks I just got back from Brazil where they don't have any fire codes,
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and if you think is uncomfortable you should see a meeting there.
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People packed so tight that there was a good question whetherthe
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oxygen level would suffice. Fortunately there wasn't a fire
or it would have been a huge catastrophe.
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Well, the title you noticed had a question mark after it and the
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reason forthe question mark is that whatever has been happening for
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the past several months and is going on now,
and howeveryou evaluate it,
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like it, hate it, orwhatever, it's pretty clearthat
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it cannot be a war on terror. In fact that's close to a logical
necessity- at least if we accept certain pretty elementary assumptions
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and principles, so let me try to make those clear at the outset.
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The first principle guideline if you like is that we
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aught to, I wll try and I think that we should, bend over backwards
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to give the benefit of the doubt to the United States government
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whenever its possible. So, that if there is any dispute about howto
interpret something, we wll assume they're right.
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The second guideline is that we should take very seriously the
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pronouncements ofleadership
especially when they are made wth great
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sincerity and emotion.
So for example when George Bush tells us that
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he is the most devote Christian since the Apostles,
we should believe
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him, take him at his word and we should therefore conclude that he
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certainly has memorized, over and over again, in his
Bible reading
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classes and in church, the famous definition ofhypocrite
that's given in the gospels.
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Namely, the hypocrite is the person who applies to others standards that
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he refuses to apply to himself. So if you are not a hypocrite you
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assume that if something is right for us then it's right forthem and
ifit is wrong when they do it, it is wrong when we do it.
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That is really elementary, and I assume that the President would
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agree and all ofhis admirers as well. So those are the principles
that I would like to start wth.
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Well, a side comment,
unless we can rise to that minimal level of moral
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integrity we should at least stop
talking about things like human rights,
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right and wrong and good and evil and all such high afflatus things
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because all ourtalk should be dismissed, in fact dismissed wth
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complete repugnance unless we can at least
rise to that minimal level.
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I think that's obvious and I hope there would
be agreement on that too.
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Well wth that much in place,
just that much for background let me
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formulate a thesis. The thesis is that we are all total hypocrites on
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any issue relating to terrorism. Now, let me clariify the notion 'we'.
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By 'we' I mean people like 'us'.
People who have enough high degree
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of privilege, of training, resources, access to information for
whom it is pretty easy to find out the truth about things
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If we want to. If we decide that that is ourvocation.
And in the case in
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question, you don't really have to dig very deep it's all right on the surface.
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So when I say 'we', I mean that category. And I definitely mean to
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include myselfin 'we' because I have never proposed that our leaders
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be subjected to the kinds of punishment that I have recommended for
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enemies. So that is hypocrisy. So if there are people who escape it
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I really don't knowthem and have not come across them.
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It's a very powerful culture; it's hard to escape its grasp.
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So that's thesis number one. We are all total hypocrites,
in the sense of the gospels, on the
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matter of terrorism. The second thesis is stronger namely that
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the first thesis is so obvious that it takes real effort to miss it.
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In fact, I should go home right nowbecause it is obvious
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Nevertheless, let me continue and say
why I think both theses are correct.
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Well to begin wth, what is terrorism?
Got to say something about that.
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That is supposed to be a really tough question. Academic seminars
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and graduate philosophy programmes and so on - a very vexing and
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complex question. However, in accordance wth the guidelines that
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I mentioned, I think there is a simple answer, namely we just take
the official US definition of terrorism.
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Since we are accepting the pronouncements of our leaders literally,
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lets take their definition. In fact that is what I have always done.
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I have been writing about terrorism forthe last twenty years or so.
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Just accept the official definition. So for example a simple and
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important case is in the US army manual
in 1984 which defines terrorism
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as the calculated use of violence orthe threat of violence to attain
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goals that are political, religious or ideological in nature.
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Well that seems simple, appropriate. A particularly good choice
because of the timing - 1984.
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1984, you wll recall, was the time that the Reagan administration was
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waging a war against terrorism. Particularly what they called
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state supported international terrorism "a plague spread by
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depraved opponents of civilization itselfin a return to barbarism
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and the modern age". I'm quoting George Shultz who was the
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administration moderate. The other guideline is that we wll
keep to the moderates, not the extremists.
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So that's 1984. Reagan had come into office a couple of years earlier.
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His administration had immediately declared that the war against
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terrorism would be the focus of US foreign policy and they identified
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two regions as the source of this plague by depraved opponents of
civilization itself- Central America and the Middle East.
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And there was quite wde agreement on that and so in 1985, for example,
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every yearthe associated press has a pole of editors on the most
important story of the year, and in 1985 the wnnerwas Middle East
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terrorism. So they agree. Right towards the end of that year, 1985,
Shimon Peres, Israel's Prime Minister, came to Washington and Reagan
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and Peres denounced the evil scourge of terrorism, referring to the
Middle East.
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Scholarship and experts also agree. There is a huge literature
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forthe last 20 years on terrorism, particularly state supported
international terrorism. We don't have time reviewit but
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a good illustration which I wll keep to is the December 2001
issue of the journal Current History- good and serious journal,
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it's article called 'America at War' includes leading historians,
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specialists and experts on terrorism and they identiify the 1980's
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as the era of state sponsored terror,
agreeing wth the Reagan administration.
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I agree wth that too. I think it was the era of state sponsored
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international terrorism. One leading author, Martha Crenshaw
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says that in that era the United States adopted a pro-active
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stance to deterthe plague. Mostly it's about the Middle East
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but Central America is occasionally mentioned. For example US
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support for one ortwo authors or co-authors from The Workman's
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Institution describe the US Contra War against Nicaragua as a
model for howto fight a war against terrorism.
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They say that was a model for US support forthe Northern Alliance
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in the current phase of the war against terrorism. The seeds
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of contemporary terrorism however are much deeperthough.
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The major historian in the group, David Rapoport - the leading
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academic specialist on terrorism, editor of
the Journal ofTerrorism and so on.
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He points out that it goes back to the origins of modern
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terrorism, like Osama bin Laden,
it goes back to the early 1960's
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and I am quoting him now, "when Vietcong terror against
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the American Goliath kindled the hopes that the Western
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heartland was vulnerable". I won't comment on that but,
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just as an exercise, you might try to find a historical
analog to that statement somewhere. I'Iljust leave it at that.
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Without commenting, if you check through the scholarly literature
you'll find the same story all the time, virtual exceptions.
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The world agreed wth the Reaganites too. In 1985, right
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after Reagan and Peres had denounced the evil scourge of
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terrorism, the General Assembly passed a resolution
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condemning terrorism, and in 1987, it passed a much stronger
resolution and a much more explicit one denouncing terrorism
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in all its forms and calling on all states to do everything
they can to fight against the plague and everything you like.
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It's true that that wasn't unanimous. There was one abstention
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namely Honduras and two votes against - the usual two.
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They gave their reasons forvoting against the major UN resolution
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on international terrorism, namely both states, The United States
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and Israel, pointed to the same paragraph as the reason for
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their negative vote. It was a paragraph that said that 'nothing
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in the present resolution could in any way prejudice the
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right to self determination, freedom and independence,
as derived from the United Nations Charter, of people forcibly
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derived of that right, particularly peoples under colonial and
racist regimes and foreign occupation, or could deprive
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them of the right to obtain support for others in these ends
in accord wth the charterwth the United Nations'.
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That was the offending paragraph, and it is easy to understand
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why it raised a serious problem forthe United States and Israel.
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The African National Congress was identified officially as a
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terrorist organization in the United States and South Africa was officially an
ally. But, the phrase 'struggle against colonial
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and racist regimes' plainly referred to the struggle of the
ANC against the apartheid regimes. So that's unacceptable.
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The phrase foreign occupation, everyone understood referred
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to the Israeli occupation of the West Bank and Gaza, then in
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its 20th year. Extremely harsh and brutal from the beginning
and continuing only because of decisive US military, economic
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and diplomatic support that runs up to the present.
So obviously that was unacceptable.
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So therefore it was 153-2 wth one abstention. So it wasn't
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totally unanimous. It wasn't reported and it has disappeared
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from history. You can check to find out. Incidentally that's
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standard practice. When the master says something is wrong its dowr the
memory hole, doesn't get reported and its forgotten.
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But it's there. If you want to look you can discover it, I'll
give you the sources if you like.
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Well, Reagan at that time, let's recall, he and Peres were
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talking about the evil scourge of terrorism in the Middle East,
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George Shultz didn't entirely agree. He thought that what he
called the most alarming manifestation of state sponsored
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terrorism was frighteningly close to home. Namely it was a
'cancer in our landmass, a cancer right nearby that was
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threatening to conquerthe hemisphere wth a revolution
wthout borders'.
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A rather interesting propaganda fabrication revealed to be a fraud instantly
but always used repeatedly afterwards, even by
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the same journals that explained why it was as total fabrication.
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It was just too useful to abandon.
And there is also an interesting, if you think about it the
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fabrication had a certain element of truth in it, an important
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element of truth. We can come back to that if you like.
Anyhowthis cancer in our land mass was threatening to conquer
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everything openly followng Hitler's Mein Kampf and we
plainly had to do something about that.
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There is a serious day in the United States called Law Day.
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Elsewhere in the world is called May Day. May 1st, a day for
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the support of the struggles of the American
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workers for an 8 hour day. But in the United States
it's a jingoist holiday called Law Day.
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On Law Day 1985, President Reagan declared a
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National emergency because the government ofNicaragua
'constitutes an unusual and extraordinary threat to the
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national security and foreign policy of the United States'.
That was renewed annually.
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George Schultz informed Congress that 'we must cut the
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Nicaraguan cancer out and not by gentle means',
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things are too serious forthat and so to quote Schultz,
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recall, the adminstration moderate. The 'good cop'.
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To quote Schultz he said "Negotiations are a euphemism
for capitulation if the shadow of power is not cast across
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the bargaining table". He condemned those who
"advocate utopian legalistic means like outside mediation,
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the United Nations, the World Court while ignoring the
power element of the equation". I'll avoid quoting hard-liners.
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At that time the United States was exercising the power element
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of the equation wth mercenary forces based in Honduras
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attacking Nicaragua. They were underthe supervision of
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John Negroponte who was just appointed to run the diplomatic
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side of the diplomatic component of the current war on
terror as the UN Ambassador.
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The military component of the current war on terror is
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Donald Rumsfeld who at that time was Ronald Reagan's
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special envoy to the Middle East; the other place where
the plague was raging through 1985 in fact.
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The United States at that time was also blocking utopian,
legalistic means that were being pursued by the World Court,
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the Latin American countries and others, and it continued to block those
means, right until the end, until the final
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victory ofits terrorist wars throughout central America.
Well, howwas the war against state sponsored terrorism
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waged in those two regions by the people who in fact are
leading the newphase, so pretty close historical
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continuity not just those two of course.
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Well, just to illustrate, lets pick the peak year,
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the worst year, 1985 in the Middle East.
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Top story of the year. So who wns the prize forthe
worst acts of terrorism in the Middle East in 1985?
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Well I know of three candidates,
maybe you can suggest a different one.
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One candidate is a car bombing in Beirut in 1985.
The carwas placed outside a Mosque.
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The bomb was timed to go off when people were leaving
to make sure it killed the maximum number of people.
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It killed, according to the Washing Post, 80 people.
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It wounded over 250, mostly women and girls leaving the mosque.
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There was a huge explosion so it blewup the whole street
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killing babies in beds and so on and so forth.
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The bomb was aimed at a Muslim Sheik who escaped.
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It was set offby the CIA in collaboration wth
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British Intelligence and Saudi Intelligence and
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specifically authorized by William Casey according to Bob Woodwards,
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the History of Casey and the CIA. So that is a
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clear-cut example of International Terrorism.
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Very unambiguous and I think it is one of the
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candidates forthe prize forthe peak year of 1985.
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Another candidate surely would be the so-called Iron Fist operations
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that Shimon Peres Government was carrying out in occupied
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southern Lebanon in March of 1985. This is in Southern Lebanon,
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which was under military occupation in violation of the
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Security Council orderto leave, but wth US authorization.
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The Iron Fist operations were targeting what the high command called
'terrorist villagers in Southern Lebanon'.
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It included many massacres and atrocities and kidnapping
of people for interrogation and taking them to Israel and so on.
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It reached new depths of calculated brutality and arbitrary
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murder according to a western diplomat familiarwth the region,
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who was observing. There was no pretense of self-defense rather it was
openly undertaken for political ends. It was conceded
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it wasn't even argued. So that's a clear case ofinternational
terrorism although here we might say that it is aggression.
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I'll call it just international terrorism in line wth the
principle that we bend over backwards to give the United States
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the benefit of the doubt. Of course this is a US operation.
Israel does it because they are given arms and aid diplomatic
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support by the United States.
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So we wll decide to call this just international terrorism
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not the much more serious war crime of aggression.
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The same incidentally was true of the much worst operations of
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1982 when Israel invaded Lebanon and killed maybe twenty thousand or so
people. Again, crucial US military, economic and
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diplomatic support. The US had to veto a couple of Security Council
resolutions to keep the slaughter going, provided the arms and
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so on for it. So it's a US/Israeli invasion if we are honest.
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"The goal was to install a friendly regime in Lebanon and
oust the PLO, which would help persuade the Palestinians
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to accept Israeli rule in the West Bank and Gaza".
That's actually accurate and I have to compliment the
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New York Times in saying that on January 24th.
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As far as I knowthis is the first time in mainstream US literature
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that anyone has dared to say what was absolutely common knowledge
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in Israel and in the dissident literature 20 years ago.
I was writing this in 1983 just using Israeli sources but it
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couldn't penetrate US commentary. You might check and see.
As far as I know, this was the first break through.
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I am not sure the reporter understood what he was saying.
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But anyway he did say that - James Bennet January 24th,
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prize for James Bennet fortelling the truth after 20years.
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And its true, and of course it's a textbook illustration of
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international terrorism. This time we have to bend over
backwards pretty farto call it international terrorism because
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it is hard to say why this isn't overt aggression - the kind of
action forwhich US and Israeli leaders should be subjected to
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Nuremberg trials. Real serious war crimes. But again lets
keep to the guidelines and lets say its only international terrorism.
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Well that's the second example. The Iron Fist operations.
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Third. The only other example from 1985 that I know of took
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place two days before Shimon Peres arrived in Washington to
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join Reagan in denouncing the evil scourge of terrorism.
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Shortly before that, Peres sent the Israeli airforce to bomb
Tunis killing 75 civilizations, torn to shreds wth smart bombs.
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It was all rather accurately and graphically depicted by a
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highly respected Israeli reporter in the Hebrewpress in
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Israel and cooperated by other sources. The United States
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cooperated wth that by wthdrawng the 6th fleet so that they
did not have to inform their ally, Tunisia, that the bombers
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were on theirway. Presumably getting refueled on the way.
So that's the third candidate. I don't know of any other
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candidates that even come close to being candidates for?
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Incidentally, George Schultz, the moderate, immediately afterthe
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bombing, he telephoned the Israeli Foreign Ministerto say that
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the United States had considerable sympathy forthis operation but
he backed away from open support for massive international terrorism
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or maybe aggression when the security council unanimously condemned
the attack as an attack of armed aggression.
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The United Stated again abstaining against that.
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So those are the top three cases that wn the prize for 1985 to
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my knowledge and again I'll assume that these are just
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international terrorism so we are not calling for Nuremberg trials.
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Just more international terrorism by depraved opponents of
civilizations itself, and examples which are pretty hard to miss
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remember because these are the peak stories of the year.
International terrorism in the Middle East there's three
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perfect examples. In fact the only three major examples that I know of.
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However, they aren't candidates. In fact, they are not even in the running.
They are not competitive.
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The examples that are in the running are for example cited in the Current
History issue, to which I referred,
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which does discuss 1985 and gives two examples of the
evil scourge of terrorism. Namely the hijacking ofTWA897,
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killing one American navy diver
and the hijacking of the Achille Lauro which led to the
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killing of Klinghoffer, a crippled American.
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Both surely terrorist atrocities.
Those are the two examples that are in the running,
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that are memorable, that count for international terrorism.
Well the hijackers forthe TWA plane claim,
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correctly in fact, that Israel was regularly high jacking
ships in the international waters in transit between
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Lebanon and Cyprus, killing people and kidnapping others,
taking them to Israel, eitherfor interrogation
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or simply as hostages, keeping them in jail foryears.
Some people are still in jail wthout charges.
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But that doesn't justiify the hijacking on the assumption,
which I accept at least, that violence is not legitimate
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in retaliation against even worst atrocities
or as preemption against future atrocities.
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Violence is not legitimate in such cases so we can
dismiss those claims though they are in fact correct.
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Incidentally, the US-Israeli hijackings, and remember,
if Israel does it we are doing it,
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those hijackings are also out of the historical records.
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Occasionally you find a reference to them in the
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bottom of a column on something or other,
but they are not part of the history of terrorism.
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The hijackers of the Achille Lauro claimed that this was
retaliation forthe bombing ofTunis
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a couple of days earlier.
Well, we dismiss that wth contempt on the same principle,
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namely violence is not justified in retaliation or preemption.
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Assuming that we can rise to the minimal, moral,
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level that I mentioned earlier- if we are not confirmed
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hypocrites in otherwords - then some consequences follow
about other acts of retaliation and preemption, but that's too obvious
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to talk about, so I wlljust leave it foryou to think about.
Well that's 1985 - the peak year ofinternational terrorism
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in the Middle East.
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As a research project, you might see if I have left out
anything that is a competitorforthe prize
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that I am not aware of. None are mentioned on the
literature on terrorism.
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As I said at the beginning you don't really have to work
very hard to see these things.
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You have to work very hard not to see them;
it takes a really good education to miss this.
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1985 was of course not the first orthe last act of
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international terrorism in the Middle East.
There are many others that are very important.
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For example, in 1975, Israel, meaning Israeli pilots
wth US planes and US support,
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in December 1975 they bombed a village in Lebanon
killing over 50 people. No pre-text was offered,
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but everybody knewwhat the reason was.
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At that time the UN security council was meeting to
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consider a resolution which was supported by the entire world
wth marginal exceptions, only one crucial exception,
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the United States which vetoed the resolution,
calling for a diplomatic settlement of the Israel-Palestine conflict,
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incorporating the UN 242 and all ofits wording
of the main resolution, security and territorial integrity
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and all those nice things on the internationally recognized border.
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The offending part of this one was that it also
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referred to Palestinian National Rights and that's not acceptable
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to the United States. It rejected them then, and it rejects them now,
contrary to a lot of nonsense that you read.
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The US vetoed the resolution that continued year afteryear,
and is still going on now, of efforts of diplomatic settlement,
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which the US has unilaterally blocked.
Israel does not have a veto at the Security Council
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so they reacted to the debate by bombing Lebanon and killing
about 50 people wthout a pretext.
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That's not in the annals ofinternational terrorisms either.
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The US supported both of them, lots of deaths,
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hundreds of thousands of people driven out and so on.
Clinton had to back offhis support forthe 1996 invasion
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afterthe Qana massacre, over a hundred people in a UN refugee camp. At
the point he said, can't handle this any more, you better leave.
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There was no pretext of self-defense in this case.
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This is just outright international terrorism or maybe aggression.
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And it continues. So lets go up to the current intifada,
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which broke out on September 30th of year 2000.
In the first couple of days there was no fire from Palestinians,
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some stone throwng, but Israel was in fact using
US attack helicopters to attack civilian appartment complexes and so on,
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killing and wounding dozens of people in the first few days.
The Clinton administration responded to this by,
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I'll borrow our President's phrase, by 'enhancing terror'.
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You recall President Bush condemned the Palestinians for
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enhancing terror last month, so I'll use his phrase in line
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wth the guidelines. The Clinton Administration committed
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itself to enhancing terror on October 3rd by making a deal
forthe biggest shipment in a decade of military helicopters
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to Israel along wth spare parts forthe Apache attack
helicopters that were sent a couple of weeks earlier.
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That's enhancing terror. In days right after, these helicopters
were being used to murder and wound civilians, attacking apartment
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complexes and so on. The press cooperated by refusing to report this.
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Note: Not failing to report it - refusing to report it.
It was specifically brought to the attention of editors and
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they simply made it clearthat they were not going to report it.
There is no question about the facts incidentally, but to this
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day it has not been reported, except in the margins.
That policy continues, skip to December 2001,
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George Bush was condemning the Palestinians for enhancing terror
and he contributed in the conventional ways to enhancing terror,
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in crucial ways in fact.
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On December 15th the UN Security Council debated a European
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initiated resolution, calling on both sides to reduce violence and
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calling forthe introduction ofinternational monitors to assist
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in monitoring a reduction of violence. That's a very important step.
That was vetoed by the United States. It went to the... who want
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to enhance violence It's hard to think of any other interpretation
of this. The press didn't have to bother giving an interpretation
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The press didn't have to bother giving and interpretation because it was
barely reported.
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It then went to the General Assembly where it wasn't reported
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at all and there was an overwhelming vote supporting the same
resolution. This time the United States and Israel were not
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entirely isolated in opposition as several Pacific Islands joined in
- Nauru and one ortwo others. So therefore, not the usual
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splendid isolation.
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I don't recall that that was reported. About 10 days before that
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there was another major contribution to enhancing terror.
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The fourth Geneva conventions, according to the entire world,
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literally, outside of Israel, applied to the occupied territories.
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The United States refuses. It doesn't vote against this when it
comes up in the United Nations. It abstains. I presume the reason
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is the United States doesn't want to take such an open blatant
stand in violation of fundamental principles ofinternational law,
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particularly because of the circumstances underwhich they were enacted.
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If you recall the Geneva Conventions were established right after
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the 2nd world war in orderto criminalize the acts of the Nazis,
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so saying they don't apply is pretty strong statement. However,
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outside of the United States and Israel, the whole world agrees.
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The international Red Cross, which is the Agency responsible for
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applying and interpreting them agrees. In fact, as far as I am aware,
there is no further question about this. Swtzerland, which is the
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responsible state, called a meeting of the high contracting parties
forthe Geneva conventions, that is, those like the United States
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that are legally obligated by treaty to enforce them.
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A high solemn commitment, called a meeting on December
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5th in Geneva and the meeting took place and passed a strong
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resolution determining that the Geneva conventions do apply
to the Occupied Territories which makes illegaljust about
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everything that the United States and Israel do there.
They went through the list - settlements, displacements and
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everything that goes on.
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The United States boycotted the sessions. They got another
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country to boycott them - Australia. According to the
Australian press, under heavy US pressure Australia joined
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in boycotting them. If the US boycotts it its like a
negative vote at the Security Council orthe General Assembly.
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It doesn't get reported and it's out ofhistory.
But that's another important step to enhancing terror.
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All this took place incidentally in the midst of a 21 day truce.
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A one sided truce. The Palestinians weren't carrying out any
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acts but a couple of dozen Palestinians were killed,
including a dozen children. That was right in the middle of
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these efforts to enhance terrortook place. Maybe that's an
unfair interpretation and there is some other motive that I'm
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not thinking of, but that's what they look like to me.
You can think about that. In any event International Terrorism
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in the Middle East certainly continues and has a long history
and if you look overthe record of course it is mixed and
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complicated but I think you wll find that the balance is
pretty much along the lines that I described, in fact the
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balance reflects the means of violence available as it usually does.
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If you look around at terror, in fact, that's why, in the whole
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range of terror, state terror is farworse than individual terror
forthe obvious reason that States have means of violence that
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individuals don't have, or groups. And that's what you find if
you look, I think overwhelmingly. It is commonly said that
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That's completely false - at least if you accept the official
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US definition of terror. If you do that then terror is
overwhelming the weapon of the strong like most otherweapons.
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Well that's history but all of this stuffis out ofhistory.
History is what is created by well-educated intellectuals and
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it doesn't have to have any resemblance to that thing called
history by naive people and if you check this I think you wll
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find this true.
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Well that's the Middle East; lets turn to Central America
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the other main focus of the plague by depraved opponents of
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civilizations itself. Here I wll be briefbecause the core
parts are uncontroversial. At least uncontroversial among
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people who have minimal regard for international lawand international
institutions and so on. Actually the size of that
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category is very easily estimated. Namely, ask yourselfhow
often what I'm about to say has appeared in the discussions
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about the evil plague of terrorism in the past five months.
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Huge flood but howmuch has been devoted to some uncontroversial
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cases, again uncontroversial if you think the World Court and
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Security Council and international lawhave some significance.
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Well in 1986, the International Court of Justice condemned the
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United States for international terrorism - unlawful use of
force in its war against Nicaragua. Again I am going to keep
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to the guidelines, bend over backwards, and allowthis to be
interpreted just as international terrorism, not the war crime
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of aggression. So we wll call it international terrorism.
The court ordered the United States to terminate the crimes
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and to pay substantial reparations - millions of dollars.
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Congress reacted by instantly escalating the war by newfunding
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to escalate the war. Nicaragua took the matterto the Security Council,
which debated a resolution calling on all states to observe
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international law, mentioning no one but everyone who was meant.
The US vetoed it. Nicaragua then went to the general Assembly
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which past similar resolutions in successive years.
The United States and Israel apposed and in one yearthey got
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El Salvador.
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All of this is out ofhistory. It has to be. It is just inconsistent
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wth their preferred image of what history is supposed to be and,
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as I say, you can check howmuch, these uncontroversial cases have been
referred to recently and rememberwho were the individuals
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responsible. People like Negroponte, Proconsul ofHonduras,
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Rumsfeld, special envoy to the Middle East,
and so on, plenty of continuity.
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The US, as I said, reacted by escalating the war and forthe
first time giving official orders to its mercenary forces to
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attack what are called 'soft targets'. That's what the
Southern Command called them - 'soft targets' meaning
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undefended civilian targets like agricultural
cooperatives and so on. That was knowr and it was discussed
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in the United States.
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It was considered legitimate by the 'Left', so
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Michael Kinsley who represents the 'Left' in the main stream debate,
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in an interesting article, he was then editor of the New Republic,
in which he said that, we shouldn't be too quick to condemn
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State department authorization for attacks on undefended
civilian targets, because we have to apply pragmatic criteria.
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We have to carry out cost benefit analysis and see whether,
as he put it, the amount ofblood poured in is compensated
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by a good outcome namely democracy.
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What we wll determine to be democracy and what that means
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you can see by looking at the states next door like
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El Salvador and Guatemala which were OK democracies.
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And ifit passes ourtest then that's it, OK. So, in otherwords,
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international terrorism is fine assuming it meets pragmatic
criteria nowacross the spectrum. Left or Right among 'we',
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that is educated and privileged intellectuals, not the
population of course. In Nicaragua the population had an
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army to defend it. It was bad enough, ten's of thousands
of people killed, the country practically devastated,
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may never recover, but it had an army to defend it.
In El Salvador and Guatemala, that wasn't true, the army
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was the State terrorists. The US supported state terrorists. They were the
army. There was no one to defend the population
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and in fact the atrocities were farworse. Also they are not
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a State so they could not go to the World Court orthe
Security Council to followlegal means, of course wthout any effect,
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because 'we', people like us, have determined that the world is
going to be ruled by force not by lawand since we have the power,
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as long as we determine that, a state that tries to followa
legitimate means of responding to international terrorism
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doesn't having anything to do.
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But that's our choice, nobody else's choice. You can't blame
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anyone else on that. There was however popular resistance,
not elite resistance, but popular resistance, to the atrocities
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there that the US had to resort to an international terrorist
network- an extraordinary international terrorist network.
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Rememberthe US is a powerful state its not like Libya.
If Libya wants to carry out terrorist acts they hire Carlos
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The Jackal or something
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The United States hires terrorist states - we're big guys.
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So the terrorist network consisted ofTaiwan, Britain, Israel,
Argentina, at least as long as it was underthe rule of the
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neo Nazi generals. When they were unfortunately removed,
they fell out of the system, Saudi Arabian funding.
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Quite a substantial international terrorist network,
never been anything like it. In contemporary terms we
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might call it an 'Axis of Evil' I suppose.
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The outcome, again keeping to the guidelines - we believe
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our leaders, was hundred of thousands of people slaughtered
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and millions of orphans and refugees. Every conceivable atrocity.
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The region devastated. The single uncontroversial case,
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Nicaragua, which was the least of them, that alone far surpasses
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the crimes of September 11th and the others suffered farworse.
Again we are bending over backwards and giving the US the
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benefit of the doubt so we are only calling it international
terrorism organized by depraved opponents of civilization itself.
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Well that's the second major area, Central America.
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All of this however is off the record too, the
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Current History journal, and its typical in this respect,
nothing that I have just referred to is mentioned.
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Nor is it in the whole scholarly literature in fact,
except way at the margins. You can check and see.
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It just doesn't count. The 80's are described as the
era of state sponsored international terrorism, but they
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are not referring to any of these things.
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The US was trying to prevent state sponsored international terrorism by
taking pro-active means like the most massive
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international terrorist network that's ever been know.
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That's very typical of the scholarly literature journalism
and again you can do a check. There has barely been a word
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on any of this as the second phase of the war on terrorism
has been declared once again wth pretty much the same people
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and every reason to expect some more outcomes.
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Well, from all of this an obvious conclusion follows: There is an
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operational definition of terrorism, the one that is actually used.
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It means terrorthat they carry out against us - that's terrorism,
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nothing else passes through the filter.
As far as I knowthat's a
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historical universal. I can't find an exception to that,
you might try.
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For example the Japanese in China and Manchuria were defending
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the population against Chinese terrorist and going to create an
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earthy paradise forthem if they could control the terrorists.
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The Nazi's in occupied Europe were defending the legitimate
governments likes Vichy and the population from the terrorist
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partisans who were supported from abroad, as indeed they were.
They were run from London, Poland and France and so on.
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The fact that I say I can't find an exception, you might try,
also as far as I am aware this is virtually universal among
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intellectuals, educated folks like us.
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Apart from statistical errorthis is the line that they take.
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Nowit doesn't look that way in history, but you have to remember
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who writes history. That ought to leave you wth a little skepticism.
If you look at actual history not the one that's written I think
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you wll find that this is the case and I could even maybe suggest
it as a research topic to some enterprising graduate student
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who aspires to a career as a taxi driver.
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Just to continue to the present, lets just take the last couple
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of months. September 11th was the perfectly clear example of
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international terrorism, no controversy about that so we don't
have to waste time on it. What about the reaction? Well it
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turns out the reaction is also an uncontroversial case of
international terrorism. Again lets keep to the guidelines
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we'Iljust listen to what our leaders say.
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So on October 11th President Bush announced to the Afghan people that
we wll keep bombing you until you hand over
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people who we suspect of terrorist acts although we refuse
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to provide any evidence and we refuse to enter into any
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negotiations for extradition and transfer- a clear case of
international terrorism. On October 28th the British counterpart
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Admiral Sir Michael Boyce, who is the Chief of the British
Defense staff, took it a step further. Remember, getting rid
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of the Taliban Regime was not a war aim, that was an afterthought.
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Three weeks afterthe bombing began that was added presumably
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so that intellectuals would have something to feel good about
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or something, I don't know, anyway three weeks afterthe bombing,
that was added as a newwar aim and Admiral Boyce announced to
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the Afghan people accordingly, I think this was the first mention
of this war aim, that "we wll continue bombing you until you
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change your leadership".
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First, that was all very prominent, page 1 of the New York Times
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in both cases. Two, both cases are textbook illustrations of
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international terrorism if not aggression, but we are still
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bending over backwards, and it's all off the record by usual
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convention. We're doing it so it doesn't count. It's only
when they carry out what we officially define as terrorism that it counts.
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Well, it's easy to go on, but let me just return to the weak thesis;
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there can't be a war against terrorism as terrorism is defined in
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official US documents. It's a logical impossibility.
This is a small sample ofillustrations, you can go on easily,
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but it's enough to showthat that can't be true. Well that's
the weak thesis. What about the strong thesis that it is all
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so entirely obvious that it would be embarrassing to talk about
it because its all right on the surface
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nothing hidden about any of this.
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Everything that I mention is perfectly well knowr you don't
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have to penetrate anything to discover. No obscure sources,
nothing. Just the obvious evidence.
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And you can easily add to it. There's a ton ofliterature about
it forthe last 20 years, but that literature also can't be
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discussed because it comes out wth the wrong conclusion.
So it's treated the same way terrorism is in our intellectual culture.
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Again, choice not a necessity.
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So we end up wth a kind of dilemma. If we are not honest,
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forget it. If we are honest there's a dilemma.
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One possibility is just to acknowledge that we are total hypocrites
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and then to at least have the decently to stop talking about
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human rights, right and wrong and good and evil and so on and
say we are hypocrites and we have force and
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we are going to run the world by force, period.
Lets forget about everything else.
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The other option is harderto pursue but it's imperative
unless we would like to contribute to still worst disasters
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that are likely to lie ahead.
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