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'My father's family name being Pirrip
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and my Christian name Philip,
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my infant tongue
could make of both names
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nothing longer or more explicit
than... Pip.
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So, I called myself Pip,
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and came to be called Pip.'
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There has never been a more perfect
marriage of director and material
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than David Lean's 1946 adaptation
of Great Expectations.
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Indeed, he was often called
a visual novelist.
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Published in 1861, Charles Dickens'
novel tells the story of Pip,
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whose humble expectations
are transformed
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by his encounter
with escaped convict Magwitch
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and the bitter, jilted Miss Havisham.
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Would you agree
that Great Expectations
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is the perfect marriage of director
and source material?
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I think so.
And I think it's critical
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that it comes at this point
in David Lean's career.
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Both Dickens and David Lean
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are exploring, I guess,
aspects of the British story.
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I mean, they... throughout their
careers both have looked at class,
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they've looked at money,
and they've looked at
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the interior
of the human experience.
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So it's what do people think, feel,
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and what are the blockages
that are both social and internal?
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And Dickens
is able to do that as a novelist
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through the interior monologue.
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What Lean is doing increasingly
across the course of his career
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and at this point
with Great Expectations
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probably for the first time
really fusing it,
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is he's able to tell the interior
monologue of a character
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through the way he shoots them,
with visuals, with representations,
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with symbols and with leitmotifs,
to where he finally hits that point
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where he's discovering
and uncovering character.
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Keep still, you little devil,
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or I'll cut your throat.
No, sir, no!
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Tell us your name. Quick!
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Pip. Pip, sir.
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Great Expectations
directed by David Lean
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marks the first time that Lean would
adapt source material from Dickens.
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And while Dickens novels had been
adapted for the screen before,
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Lean brings something truly special
to this adaptation.
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And a lot of it is around the fact
that Lean was a visual storyteller.
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And he brings such atmosphere
and such thoughtfulness
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to the historical accuracy that it
brings Dickens to life, I think,
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for an entirely new generation.
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David Lean's film version
of Dickens' Great Expectations,
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that he made in 1946,
is a very good example
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of two perfect storytellers
collaborating.
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Lean hadn't read any Dickens
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before he was introduced
to Great Expectations
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by a stage adaptation.
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And when he saw that, he realised
that there was something about it
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that he fully engaged with.
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Being a storyteller himself, albeit
a visual one, a cinematic one,
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I think that he felt a kind of...
relationship with Dickens.
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Let's talk a bit
about the original novel,
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because even among Dickens'
great array of novels
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it's considered one of his best.
Why is that?
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I think one of the things
about Great Expectations
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is the story
is... beautifully timeless.
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It's about... well, so many things,
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but you could boil it down, as
David Lean did, to two big themes.
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There's the sort of futility of it
and the eternity of love.
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You make the incorrect decision in
love and you can't pull out of it.
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That's one doom. The other futility
is trying to change your class.
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In British society, you're not
really allowed to move up a class.
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That doesn't really happen.
You know,
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the entire motif of British sitcoms
is you cannot move up in a class.
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So these two are the strongest
themes of the... the novel.
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There are lots of other things he
explores, things like poverty,
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the trap of poverty, betrayal,
all sorts of other elements,
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but those, I think, are
the strongest parts of the story.
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Although many people
love Dickens' A Tale Of Two Cities,
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which preceded Great Expectations,
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or they might love
A Christmas Carol,
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the thing that's really special
about Great Expectations
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is it combines and influences so
many other genres of novel to come.
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It's a morality tale. It's the story
of a man's coming of age
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from boy to man. It's a story
of rags to riches to rags again.
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Great Expectations is relatively
late in Dickens canon,
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but it is clearly one of the most
popular books that he ever wrote.
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Perhaps only slightly less popular
than A Christmas Carol.
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I think the reason
for its popularity,
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and it has been adapted
for stage, screen,
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and television countless times,
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is because it does
so many different things in one.
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On the one hand, it is a melodrama
about a young man
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seeking his identity, an orphan
who wants to find his true self.
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At the same time is a critique
of Victorian society
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and the aspirations thereof.
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There is a thriller element to it
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and there is also
a comic element too.
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It's a book that's designed
to be read aloud.
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So Dickens would do readings of his
work for money.
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He was always desperately broke,
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it was an important income source
for him. But other people
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would do this later in pubs and bars
because literacy was not universal.
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And when you look at the book
from that perspective,
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it is this...
almost comedic role of jokes,
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of comments, of sideswipes.
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It is almost like a stand-up routine
when spoken.
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And when put on the page,
it has a lightness to it.
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When it explores these very dark
and very complex themes,
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it does so with such a joyous
lightness of touch.
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Great Expectations,
like most of Dickens' work,
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was also released and published
as a serial piece of work,
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which means that it has
this episodic quality
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throughout its main character
Pip's life.
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That means that it kind of lends
itself to many subplots,
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to various ensemble characters
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who have complex relationships with
our protagonist.
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And often that lends itself
to melodrama as well.
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And the Victorians loved and lapped
up melodrama.
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They loved the story of a child
missing and reunited with a mother.
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They loved the story of someone
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who discovers their secret
benefactor
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was an escaped convict
that they knew all along.
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Dickens had an interest
in childhood,
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and particularly in orphans.
And he showed that previously
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with David Copperfield.
And with this story,
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he does have imperilled children,
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and children who form
quite meaningful relationships
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early in life like Pip and Estella.
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And then you watch as those
relationships
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develop over a number of years,
really up until their old age,
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but you always know that in spite
of the twists and turns
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and sort of theatrical things
within these stories
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and the surprise twists,
that you will see
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a narrative resolution to the
stories of these characters,
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even if it's not necessarily
a happy one.
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Lean's version
is a triumph of casting.
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John Mills as the spirited Pip.
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Alec Guinness
as loyal friend Herbert Pocket.
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Finlay Currie as Magwitch.
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Martita Hunt as Miss Havisham.
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And Valerie Hobson as that uncaring
object of Pip's affections,
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the cruel Estella.
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And it is a triumph of imagery.
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Watching Great Expectations,
it is as if the Dickensian world
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is being invented before our eyes.
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The breathtaking exteriors,
the almost fairy-tale sets,
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that indelible sense of place and
time and mystery.
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A supreme example
of filmmaking craft,
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Great Expectations is a true wonder
of British cinema.
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Come along, boy!
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Take your hat off!
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Great Expectations finds two of our
leading storytellers
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at the height of their powers,
David Lean and Charles Dickens.
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The author's 13th novel
is one of his greatest achievements.
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Adapted 28 times
for stage and screen,
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with all its secrets
and devious schemes,
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this is both Dickens
richest and arguably darkest work.
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It is Lean
who added the possibly happy ending.
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Great Expectations
has a very complex plot,
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and it involves relationships
between the main characters
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which are hidden until the very end.
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It's the story of young orphan, Pip,
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who is brought up by kindly
blacksmith called Joe Gargery,
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who is married to Pip's sister,
who is a bit of a harridan.
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And it's the search for...
his own identity,
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and Pip's own aspirations
to become a gentleman.
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These are the sort of
secret aspirations he has,
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because he is, in fact, you know,
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living under
fairly common circumstances.
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And he finds himself being...
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a kind of playmate to a young lady
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who is the ward of Miss Havisham.
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Miss Havisham is this strange woman
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who lives in a large old house
full of cobwebs,
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who's been sitting there
in her bridal gown for years
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since the day
she was jilted at the altar.
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She has invited Pip to come in
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and, basically, just be company,
be a sort of companion.
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At first he's completely terrified,
but in the process of returning,
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he falls in love
with the young ward, Estella.
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Estella treats him
really like sort of dirt.
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She says, "You are a common boy."
She always calls to him, "Boy!"
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And it makes him more aware
of his poor background.
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And it's that that triggers
his quest for great expectations,
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for some sort of social elevation
and possibly wealth.
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And they move around each other
a little bit.
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He's still as in love with her
as ever he was,
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but her job now, her mission,
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is to entrap the hearts
of all the young men of London
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And she does so very successfully.
She goes with Pip
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to a lot of parties
where she breaks his heart,
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- she breaks everyone's heart.
- It's
quite interesting, though, isn't it,
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certainly in the film version,
- Estella always warns Pip.
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She goes, "Don't love me, because
I will break your heart."Yes.
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"Don't.
You know what's gonna happen."
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Almost as she's sort of
- warning him off.
- Yeah.
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That's almost the very first thing
she says to him when she sees him.
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He says, "I remember kissing you."
And she says,
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"Well, do not fall in love with me,
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because this is what I'm supposed
to do. I'm the assassin.
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Do not fall victim to me."
But he can't help himself.
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He can't help himself. So she
chooses a man to destroy and marry.
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And, of course, that breaks Pip.
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And this all happens
around the same time.
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The escape... the Magwitch escape
and Estella's marriage
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all happen at the same point.
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Surprisingly, Lean had not been
an avid reader of Dickens.
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He was taken to see a stage
adaptation of Great Expectations
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in 1939 starring Alec Guinness.
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It was as if he was struck
by lightning.
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What a film this would make!
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He threw himself
into the author's entire works,
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but it had to be Great Expectations.
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So in 1939, David Lean
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goes to see a stage adaptation
of Great Expectations.
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And this particular version
had been considerably sculpted
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and cut down from the novel
and he found it brilliant.
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It had been written and cut down by
a young actor called Alec Guinness.
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And so there was the seed
really for the 1946 film.
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It would take a little while
to come to fruition,
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but Lean was persuaded that
a Dickens adaptation for the screen
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could be his next project.
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What I find always surprising
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is that he wasn't really
a Dickens fan beforehand,
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and I believe he went to a stage
production
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that sort of completely changed his
- mind.
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When you say he wasn't really
a Dickens fan,
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he didn't like reading, he didn't
want to encounter anything
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that was on the written page. So
he was invited to attend this play,
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this version of Great Expectations,
he went very reluctantly,
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but he was absolutely swept up
in this...
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It was not quite a one-person play,
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but it was put together
by Alec Guinness,
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who played Herbert Pocket
in the play and also in the film.
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And it had Martita Hunt in it, who
would go on to play Miss Havisham.
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Yes. And he was just...
caught up by this.
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He thought it was just amazing.
And he waited around afterwards
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and decided,
"Right, I'm going to make this."
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He hadn't really reached the stage
yet where he could quite say,
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"This is what I'm going to do next.
Give me the money."
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And so it took a while for him...
- This is 1939, isn't it?
- Yes.
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Seven years before he made the film.
He just knew that this
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was what he wanted to do. This was a
project he believed passionately in.
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Of course, there have been numerous
Dickens adaptations.
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Lean thought George Cukor's
David Copperfield decent enough.
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But Ealing's Nicholas Nickleby
suffered too common a problem
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when it came to Dickens,
trying to cram it all in.
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Lean simply listed all the episodes
he hungered to shoot
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and found a way to connect them,
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passing over great swathes
of the novel. Less is more.
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"You have to savour Dickens,"
he said,
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filling his chosen scenes with the
majestic possibilities of cinema.
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So Dickens adaptations have existed
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since the beginning of cinema, really.
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And one of the pioneers
of moviemaking itself,
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DW Griffiths in Hollywood, had done
a Dickens adaptation in the 1910s
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and claimed that Dickens' style
of storytelling,
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which jumped between various threads
and through time,
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inspired the invention
of cross-cutting.
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His works gave filmmakers
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a kind of blueprint for a film,
because of the characters,
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the nature of 'em, and because
he was a natural storyteller.
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You didn't have to invent a story
to actually, you know,
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get that onto the screen.
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So it was very important for Lean
when adapting this novel
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to a screenplay with his
co-screenwriter Ronald Neame,
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that they focus on some of the key
moments that would be visual.
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And Lean knew from the start
that, for instance,
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Pip meeting with Magwitch
or Miss Havisham's fate
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were these very big dramatic scenes
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that he could get a lot of visual
excitement out of,
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that he could place the camera
in interesting places.
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By the time Lean had got around to
thinking about Great Expectations,
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of course, there had been a war.
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He'd seen the play in 1939, thought
about it as a possible film,
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and then by the time 1945 arrived,
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he and his fellow filmmakers,
Ronald Neame,
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Anthony Havelock-Allan, who had
formed this company, Cineguild,
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wanted to do something different.
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They wanted to take...
to do a new film
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that was not connected or in any way
associated with the war years.
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And they thought, "Perhaps we should
go back to the Victorian era.
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Perhaps we should do something
a little bit historic,
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but within kind of memory."
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And... Lean obviously thought
straightaway of Great Expectations.
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Studio head J Arthur Rank
needed little convincing.
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When producer Ronald Neame pitched it
to him, he replied,
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"Go away and make it."
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Rank rightly saw a chance to crack
the American market.
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Lean gained a creative freedom
he had never experienced.
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Here was the chance
to define his career
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away from his early partnership
with Noel Coward.
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Let's talk a little bit
about David Lean first of all.
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It's 1946. How big a director
was he at that stage?
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Well, at that point,
David Lean is a big director,
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but not as big as he's going to be.
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He stands on the threshold
of greatness.
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He's... he's had...
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Some of the films are legendary.
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He's made Brief Encounter,
Blithe Spirit,
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he's made In Which We Serve. He's
building up this great reputation.
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He's beginning to become noticed
in America and his skill is evident.
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It's this film that shoots him
into a stellar level of direction.
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This is the film
that makes him into,
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or allows him to reveal
his David Leanness, if you like.
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This is the film that paves
the way for Lawrence Of Arabia,
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when he's given the chance to work
with big locations, outdoor scenes,
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and use landscape to tell people's
stories as well as just interiors.
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So this is a critical moment
in his career, but he's already...
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you know, people will still
go to his films in droves.
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So Lean also saw an opportunity
with Great Expectations
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to move away
from the influence of playwright
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and very powerful figure
Noel Coward,
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who had been famous before Lean
was ever famous or known,
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and who was heavily involved
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in the entirety of Lean's career
up to that point,
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even with Brief Encounter which
was based on one of Coward's plays.
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So he wanted to move away from that
collaboration and be given
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a little bit more freedom to explore
the themes and visual style
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that he wanted to pursue.
Lean had such a strong sense
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of the visual and the aesthetic,
and he believed
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that no matter
what the source material was,
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or what kind of literary adaptation
he was taking on,
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that it shouldn't be
stodgy or stage bound,
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that in fact
it should have its own vernacular.
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And he kind of had his own
experience as well in this,
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because he'd been a film editor
for so long in his youth,
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he'd edited up to 25 films,
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including some classics like the
49th Parallel by Michael Powell.
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So he had a very firm sense of
visual storytelling
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and how to sculpt a narrative and
shift between scenes effectively.
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For my mind,
Lean did something extraordinary
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in that he solved the problem
- of Dickens' maximal fiction.
- Yes.
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He figured out how to do it,
- didn't he?
- Yes.
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Firstly, he commissioned a script
from a Dickens expert
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who tried to essentially condense
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the whole of Great Expectations
into a screenplay,
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which Lean said
he found embarrassing to read.
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You couldn't do it,
it was not possible.
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So he, as he had previously done
on a couple of films,
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went off to an inn in Cornwall with
his scriptwriter, Ronald Neame,
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and they... bashed it around.
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And what they did
is they went through the story,
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they read the book, read the script,
thought about it,
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and then he almost closed his eyes
and thought,
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"What is it that I remember
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that I think makes great scenes
from this book?"
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And he wrote the key scenes down,
just scribbled down,
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"These are the scenes...
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I can see
how we would shoot these scenes."
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What I love is that he almost
confesses his trick at the beginning.
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The very opening shot,
the voiceover from John Mills,
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"My name is Pip."
And you see the lines on the page.
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Then the wind picks up the book
and breezes along all the pages.
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And that's what Lean is telling us.
"You're not going to get it all."
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I hadn't thought of that.
That's... Yeah, that's very good.
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Yes. That's really good.
I love that.
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He's... Yeah, he's exposing his art
straightaway.
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Pip's central journey encompasses
both a pivotal Kent Estuary childhood
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and a London coming of age.
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As the young yokel Pip, Anthony
Wager has a wide-eyed innocence.
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This slight figure silhouetted
against the vast sky,
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that Lean speciality.
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John Mills' mature Pip
still has growing to do,
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from spendthrift dandy
to the realisation that his story
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has been shaped by the past
in both good and bad ways.
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After you, miss.
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Don't be silly. I'm not going in.
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Come in.
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Who is it?
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- Pip, ma'am.
- Pip?
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Mr Pumblechook's boy. Come to play.
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Come nearer.
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Let me look at you.
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The first vision of Estella
had to be unforgettable.
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This beautiful young girl brought up
to be loved, but not to love.
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The extraordinary
17-year-old Jean Simmons
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seemed so much older
than Wager's bewildered Pip,
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who she scorns as, "Boy!"
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As her older counterpart, Valerie
Hobson recalled an unhappy shoot,
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but Lean wanted her unhappiness
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and just a flicker of resentment
at her fate.
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There was just a hint,
a crack in the veneer,
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revealing the heart beneath.
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So Jean Simmons came from J Arthur
Rank's sort of school of starlets
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and was very well trained
and groomed to be a star,
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but she also had a whole other
career during the war
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where she'd been a singer
and she'd recited poetry.
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So she had quite an interesting
background for such a young woman.
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And what she brings to the role
of sort of ice queen Estella
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is this sense of almost wisdom
beyond her years,
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or an awareness beyond her years,
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because she has to live with
Miss Havisham,
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this adoptive mother figure who's
so morbid and... and oppressive.
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And so Simmons brings something
kind of haunted to the role
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in spite of her aloofness.
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The entire film really
is driven by Estella.
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She's just
an extraordinary character.
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But more than that,
in the way that Lean casts it,
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both with Jean Simmons
as the incredible younger version,
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and then Valerie Hobson,
he really brings...
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and they really bring
the whole concept of Estella to life.
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I mean,
I do slightly pity Valerie Hobson
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in that she has to pick up from
where Jean Simmons left off,
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because Jean Simmons is astonishing
as the young Estella
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She is...
This is an incredible actress
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at the beginning of her career,
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and this is the role
that makes her career.
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You know, she's played this...
The Rank school of charm,
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she's about to enter that world,
but this is an absolute scorcher!
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And she, in a way,
interprets and delivers Estella
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in a critical way
slightly more convincingly.
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I mean, poor old Valerie Hobson
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is not given as much material
for Estella as Jean Simmons is,
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so she's set up perfectly
by this young actress
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who was 17 years old at the time
and is able to pull together
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all of these...
this taunting arrogance,
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then suddenly changing her mind and
allowing Pip to kiss her.
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This child who's on the verge
of becoming
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the cold, dead woman
she's supposed to be.
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The young versions
of Pip and Estella,
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Pip played by Anthony Wager
and Estella played by Jean Simmons,
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are absolutely perfect.
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They seem to occupy
their own... reality.
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Wager has all the right qualities
of being a sort of a young boy,
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a young rural boy. You know, he's...
got sort of common elements to him,
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but he's got a big heart.
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He's got a sort of suitability
to be terrified.
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And yet there's a spirit within him
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that makes him do
what he's supposed to do.
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I love his performance. Of course,
once you see Jean Simmons,
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she comes on
as the frankly young diva, Estella,
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who is a real snob. Not only do
you see that she is... beautiful,
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she is insulting,
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she is... really a sort of adjunct
to Miss Havisham,
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who is using her as a cat's paw.
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For Dickens flamboyant characters,
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Lean knew you must cast
outsized characters to play them.
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Bernard Miles as kindly, uneducated
blacksmith Joe, for instance,
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or a boyish Alec Guinness as the
dotty but faithful Herbert Pocket.
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Demobbed that very morning,
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he was still in uniform
when he did the screen test.
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Voluminous in every way,
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Francis L Sullivan
is perfect as Mr Jaggers,
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the lawyer
who speaks only in baffling legalese.
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And what's so crucial,
once you understand that,
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is that casting is vital
when it comes to Dickens.
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I think Lean really grasps this,
that if you cast correctly,
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almost half your work is done,
because they embody
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the greatness of these characters.
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But in the case of the two leads,
there's the added issue
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of you have a young version
and an older version.
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So with Pip,
we have Anthony Wager as the boy,
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and we have John Mills, of course,
as the young man.
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Well, the...
I mean... it's beautiful casting
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and in one way...
quite unusual casting.
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I mean, Anthony Wager is a
working-class boy, son of a plumber,
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and therefore inhabits the idea of
this kid from a smithy perfectly.
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Then as an adult, John Mills
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brings a quality to Pip
which is interesting,
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in that some people say
he's too old for the role,
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but I think what John Mills
brings is... if you like,
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the pain of being Pip, he brings
a certain haunted look to Pip,
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which I think
is entirely appropriate
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for the experiences of Pip's life.
Pip has had his parents die,
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he's had his sister die, he's had
to live with his sister's husband,
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who's a blacksmith, and he's had to
work in a forge for years.
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He's had his heart broken and he
comes to London suddenly with money.
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And this is a person who's been
buffeted by fate,
465
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:47,919
back and forth, back and forth.
466
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:51,319
And there's something about John
Mills which conveys that,
467
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:56,039
he looks sometimes half lost...
at the experience of life.
468
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:59,799
And he is technically measurably
a little older than the character,
469
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:03,159
but I don't think that matters
because that's the lived experience
470
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,999
- of Pip in his face.
- And there's
always that sense, isn't there,
471
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,319
that he's another one of those
characters
472
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,199
that embodies Dickens' own
experiences, that he was a child
473
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,679
who was thrown out
onto his own devices
474
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,879
and had to figure life out
and was buffeted by fortune.
475
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:20,799
I think Pip is another version
- of the author.
- Yes.
476
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,239
And sort of arrives at money
as Dickens did,
477
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:26,119
and then loses all the money
as Dickens did. He really is
478
00:28:26,120 --> 00:28:29,719
very much the Dickens, you know,
he's very much the character
479
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,479
who represents a real version
of Dickens in the book.
480
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:37,119
Full justice is done to two of
Dickens' most formidable eccentrics.
481
00:28:37,120 --> 00:28:41,519
Finley Currie's Magwitch, the escaped
convict hiding in the graveyard,
482
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:46,639
manages to be both deeply sinister
and yet sympathetic.
483
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:50,239
Lean recalled leaving Martita Hunt
to her own devices
484
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,999
as cunning,
heartbroken Miss Havisham,
485
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,919
a mystery
to both director and the audience.
486
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,759
Both are Dickensian ghosts
in a sense,
487
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:03,759
haunting the expectations
of Pip and Estella.
488
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:07,159
The wonderful opening scene
of Great Expectations,
489
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,759
arguably one of the best openings
of any film,
490
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:15,919
sees a young Pip visiting
his parents' grave on Christmas Eve.
491
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:19,479
It's a windy... wintry day.
492
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:37,919
It is a masterclass in editing,
in tension, in shock.
493
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:41,239
And that unusual cut
must have given audiences
494
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:45,319
such a huge start back in 1946
and is still startling now.
495
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,599
Martita Hunt, of course,
when you think of Miss Havisham,
496
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,359
even amongst
all the subsequent versions,
497
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,319
the first person that comes to mind
is Miss Havisham
498
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,919
in her rotting bridal gown
499
00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:01,119
and that wonderfully
sort of slightly drawn out voice,
500
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:04,079
which is a... sort of like...
501
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,639
kind of slightly madder,
more eccentric Edith Evans.
502
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,519
You know, "Come here, boy."
503
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:14,479
She sends shivers down your spine,
quite rightly,
504
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,439
which is what she's supposed to do.
505
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,999
So she's
one of the great eccentrics as well.
506
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,879
I think Lean said he knew very little
about what she was going to do,
507
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:27,319
- - he just left her to it.
- Yeah.
- In a
sense, he discovered Miss Havisham
508
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,399
- with everybody else.
- Well, because
she played Miss Havisham on stage
509
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,199
night after night after night,
510
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,879
she knew that character
better than the director did.
511
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:38,599
Again, she was someone who thought
David Lean didn't direct her enough,
512
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:42,159
but I think that one of the skills
David Lean had was saying,
513
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,599
"Well, she's got it. That's great.
514
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,519
We don't need her to do anything
other than what she's doing.
515
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,479
I have no notes, so keep going."
516
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,679
Lean had the film in his head
from the moment he read the book.
517
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:57,399
Escaping the poised, contemporary
lives of his previous films,
518
00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:02,119
he saw something both highly stylised
and savagely real.
519
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:05,599
Expansive estuary skylines
filmed in Rochester
520
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:09,719
are mixed with German expressionist
sets built at Denham Studios.
521
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,599
Wide angles give way to a deep focus
522
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,879
inspired by Casablanca
and Citizen Kane.
523
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:20,279
So one of the most memorable scenes
and visuals in Great Expectations
524
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,719
is that of the sort of frozen,
deserted wedding banquet
525
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:27,159
where Miss Havisham
has been left by her bridegroom,
526
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,239
the thing which will have the knock
on effect on the rest of her life,
527
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,599
the reason that she is the way
she is and the reason
528
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:37,959
that she is vengeful and vindictive
towards all men as a result.
529
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,319
It's interesting that Dickens
whilst writing the novel
530
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:46,759
was going through sort of separating
from a 23-year marriage,
531
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:50,359
and Lean had had his own marital
strife as well,
532
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,759
so there's something interesting in
the depiction of this character
533
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:57,199
and, I guess, really,
ultimately the comeuppance
534
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,239
that she gets in the film.
535
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,279
Now we should mention Alec Guinness,
536
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,159
because he was in the play
that had stirred David Lean.
537
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,519
And he becomes
a wonderful Herbert Pocket,
538
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,399
the kind of dotty best friend
but very loyal friend.
539
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,799
I mean, he'd just been demobbed,
hadn't he, on the day he was cast?
540
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:16,679
Yeah, he'd just been demobbed.
And he also really had no intention
541
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,839
of becoming a cinema actor.
He'd worked in one film
542
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,559
and found it
a very unpleasant experience.
543
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,279
It had been a small part,
but he really didn't like it.
544
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,959
He really just wanted
to work in theatre.
545
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:31,079
So he took the role
and at the beginning
546
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:34,239
he really struggled
with what cinema...
547
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,239
with what film acting involved.
Again, that was another trick
548
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,959
that David Lean played
that produced a performance.
549
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:44,239
So there had to be a close up on
Alec Guinness when he was laughing.
550
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,759
And that's a critical part
of Herbert Pocket,
551
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:50,479
is that he's so cheerful and happy.
- He's comic relief.
- Yeah, he is.
552
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,879
He's enjoys, he laughs, "This
is absolutely wonderful to me.
553
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:57,479
Oh, Pip, this is a wonderful thing.
What an adventure we're going on."
554
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,239
He's really
genuinely pleased at life.
555
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,239
And Alec Guinness
found it very hard
556
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,719
to laugh
when the camera was pointing at him,
557
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,279
as you can imagine. You know,
"Go on, laugh now."
558
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:11,279
So what David Lean did was he
said, "Switch the camera off.
559
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:14,999
" And
he sat and chatted to Alec Guinness.
560
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,399
And Alec Guinness
laughed in close up.
561
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,079
And then Lean said,
"Right, got it." And walked off.
562
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,439
And Alec Guinness realised
he'd been tricked,
563
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,919
and this was a scene
where Herbert Pocket laughs.
564
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:26,919
And it worked incredibly well.
565
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,879
So he pulled the performance
out of Guinness.
566
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:33,399
He taught him how to become a film
actor whilst making the film.
567
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:37,239
And as we can see from the career
that Alec Guinness then developed,
568
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,239
it was a phenomenal education.
569
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:43,639
He always had a special relationship
- with Lean, didn't he?
- Yes.
570
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:47,439
The film is intensely cinematic,
a masterpiece of craft.
571
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:51,759
John Bryan's low-ceiling sets
utilised forced perspective
572
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,559
to the point where they
could only be shot from one angle,
573
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,799
but what an angle and what detail,
574
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:01,199
from the framed noose
on Jaggers' office wall
575
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,199
to the twitch of candlelight
576
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,239
as Estella leads Pip
to meet Miss Havisham.
577
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,359
They used smoke canisters
from World War II
578
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,359
to create the fog on the marshes.
579
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,399
This is a vision as opulent
580
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,919
as Cruikshank's illustrations
in the books.
581
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:20,119
So Lean shot on location
in Rochester in Kent,
582
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:23,199
which was actually some of Dickens'
real stomping grounds
583
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,919
back in the 19th century.
And he... was really clever
584
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:30,919
in his combination of using pretty
extravagant sets for some elements,
585
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:32,719
some of the historical things,
586
00:34:32,720 --> 00:34:36,159
and then also bringing in real
locations like the Kentish Marshes,
587
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,679
which are so eerie and bring
so much atmosphere
588
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,079
to the beginning of the film
for instance.
589
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:45,519
Design, camerawork and editing
amplify theme and character.
590
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:49,759
Who can forget the jump cut
from Pip colliding with Magwitch
591
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,439
to the close-up
of the terrified boy,
592
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:56,799
the scream beginning four frames
before his face appears.
593
00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:01,599
Or the setting of Miss Havisham's
desiccated tomb of a wedding day,
594
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:05,119
frozen in time
to the very minute of the betrayal,
595
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:09,080
in which she sits,
enacting her vengeance on all men.
596
00:35:11,126 --> 00:35:14,319
When you first caused me to be
brought here, Miss Havisham,
597
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,879
I suppose I really did come here as
any other chance boy might have come,
598
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:21,319
as a kind of servant to gratify a
want or a whim and to be paid for it.
599
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,879
Aye, Pip, you did.
And that Mr Jaggers was...
600
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,239
Mr Jaggers
had nothing to do with it.
601
00:35:27,240 --> 00:35:31,079
His being my lawyer and the lawyer
of your patron was a coincidence.
602
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:34,199
He holds the same relation
towards numbers of people.
603
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:37,239
But when I fell into the mistake
that I have so long remained in
604
00:35:37,240 --> 00:35:40,199
at least you led me on.
Yes...
605
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,159
I let you go on.
606
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:47,480
- Was that kind?
- Who am I, for heaven's
sake, that I should be kind!
607
00:36:26,240 --> 00:36:30,639
It's a tale of so many themes, class,
ambition, money,
608
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:34,639
friendship and love
with all its attendant cruelties.
609
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:38,799
It is an indictment of parenthood and
how we are shaped by our upbringing.
610
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:42,759
Both Pip and Estella
affectively have their lives authored
611
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,919
by the manipulations
of the vampiric Miss Havisham
612
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,919
and ghastly, misunderstood Magwitch.
613
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:52,479
Can they ever escape
the chains of their own stories?
614
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,159
And, of course, when Pip is grown up
615
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:58,799
and Magwitch returns
out of the nowhere really,
616
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:03,119
he's a very different character to
- the one we saw before.
- Yes. I mean,
617
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:06,159
one thing critically
is that he's diminished,
618
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:11,519
both figuratively and literally,
by David Lean by the way he's shot.
619
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:16,039
So where before he was shot with
a wide lens, quite low down,
620
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:19,159
he's now shot with a very sort of...
621
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:23,279
He's made to appear smaller by the
use of lenses, by the use of angles,
622
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,999
and Pip is made to appear
to match his height.
623
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:30,879
So suddenly this terrifying figure
becomes this much smaller man,
624
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:34,439
and so he's much less terrifying,
he becomes much more pathetic.
625
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,679
But by that, I don't mean
pathetic in a scornful way,
626
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:41,039
I mean, he has pathos
and he's a sadder character.
627
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:45,399
He's... desperate to see the boy
whose life he's changed
628
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,079
and to see if he's done
- something good.
- He's a father
629
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,479
seeking his son, isn't he?
- Absolutely.
- Yeah.
630
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:54,559
But by doing so,
by... taking that one glimpse,
631
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:58,079
he destroys both of them.
I mean, he destroys himself,
632
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:02,239
and he also then
removes the money that Pip has
633
00:38:02,240 --> 00:38:04,599
and completely destroys
his expectations.
634
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,279
So this,
"I must see what good I've done,"
635
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,239
then ends up wrecking everything.
636
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:30,519
Who do you want?
637
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:32,159
Mr Pip.
638
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,919
So the famous Dickens' illustrator
Cruikshank
639
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:39,599
was known for using these quite
moody, really, images in India ink
640
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,999
of the various characters and
stories he illustrated for Dickens.
641
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:46,399
In fact, he didn't illustrate
Great Expectations originally,
642
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:50,279
but he was kind of the illustrator
associated to that writer.
643
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:56,479
And so Lean and his sort of crew
were interested in aping that look.
644
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,119
And that kind of lends itself
to the noir thing as well,
645
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:02,079
because these are
quite shadowy images,
646
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:05,239
and you get that a lot from
the characters of Magwitch,
647
00:39:05,240 --> 00:39:09,879
Miss Havisham, these seedy
or shady at least sinister figures
648
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,199
that are in Pip's life.
649
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:15,719
So David Lean was very influenced by
650
00:39:15,720 --> 00:39:20,599
a very moody period of silent
German films from the 1920s,
651
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:24,559
called German Expressionism, films
like The Cabinet Of Dr Caligari.
652
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:28,479
And these films were known
for very low-angle lighting,
653
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:30,479
which cast dramatic, theatrical,
654
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,239
sometimes jagged shadows
across the sets.
655
00:39:33,240 --> 00:39:37,639
Elements of the Gothic,
a sort of darkness psychologically.
656
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:43,239
And all of that was a huge influence
in the post-war cinematic landscape,
657
00:39:43,240 --> 00:39:45,679
particularly with the rise
of film noir.
658
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,719
And so Lean is also responding
to these things
659
00:39:48,720 --> 00:39:53,439
and to his period of time. And
right at the height of film noir,
660
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,119
he too is looking
at the German expressionists.
661
00:39:56,120 --> 00:40:00,039
And how remarkable that rather than
it being in some little crime film,
662
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:03,439
as with most of those sort of things
that were aping that style,
663
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:07,519
this was a Victorian period drama
of Dickens'. And he takes that style
664
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:10,439
and transposes it
onto this unlikely material.
665
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:14,159
Released in 1946
amid post-war austerity,
666
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,239
audiences lapped up the chance
667
00:40:16,240 --> 00:40:19,799
to escape into such
all-encompassing storytelling.
668
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:21,839
It earned millions in America,
669
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:25,159
where it won Oscars
for its sets and art direction.
670
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:28,079
David Lean
was nominated for Best Director,
671
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:30,839
but the performances
were cruelly snubbed.
672
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:35,519
It is now held up as an emblem
of all that film can achieve.
673
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:39,839
Great Expectations was an enormous
success when it came out.
674
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:43,239
It was a success
with audiences and the critics,
675
00:40:43,240 --> 00:40:47,359
many of whom claimed it to be one of
the best British films ever made.
676
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:49,359
It did very, very well.
677
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,679
It actually, you know...
678
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:55,199
It brought honour and glory
to everyone concerned,
679
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:58,919
Lean especially, of course,
who was then, you know,
680
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:02,479
suddenly regarded not just
as a great British filmmaker,
681
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:06,679
but as a man of international
standing as a director.
682
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:09,479
Lean's reputation
was built on his epics,
683
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:13,279
but this is the purest expression
of his talent.
684
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,999
It still has that epic feel,
685
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,839
but combined
with Dickens' intensity and vigour
686
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:22,519
the director is marvellously
contained by the author.
687
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:25,319
If a fan told him that they thought
688
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:28,079
Lawrence Of Arabia
was his finest film,
689
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,199
he would simply say, "Thank you."
690
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:34,879
If they said Great Expectations,
he would say, "Quite right."
691
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,119
So Dickens wrote
two different versions
692
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:38,919
of the end of Great Expectations
693
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,759
and, apparently,
was himself unsure about it.
694
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,759
He originally wrote a version
where many years later,
695
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:47,279
Pip and Estella
have a chance encounter,
696
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:50,719
but it was a little bit too
ambiguous for the publishers
697
00:41:50,720 --> 00:41:54,759
and they insisted he write something
a little bit more resolute.
698
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,399
And so he has them
actually meet again
699
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,799
at the old house of Miss Havisham.
700
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:03,039
And there's
still a coldness between them.
701
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:07,439
These two are probably not headed
in the same direction in life.
702
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:11,359
It's definitely still quite
a downbeat ending, I would say,
703
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,439
but there is some finality to it.
704
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,719
David Lean's ending
is... different again.
705
00:42:16,720 --> 00:42:22,039
It sees Pip and Estella reunite and
meet up at Miss Havisham's house.
706
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:26,799
But it's a far more sort of,
you know...
707
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:29,679
it seems to be leaning into
a certain kind of friendship
708
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,239
that rises up between them,
a certain kind of
709
00:42:32,240 --> 00:42:34,519
putting the past behind them
finally.
710
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:37,519
One of the most extraordinary things
about Great Expectations
711
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:40,959
is it has almost set how we imagine
the world of Dickens to be.
712
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:44,359
If we read the books, we think
of an imagery that Lean gave us.
713
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:47,519
Yes, he frames Victorian London,
he frames the sort of...
714
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:53,599
the gothic element of Dickens
in a way that defines him really.
715
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:58,759
You know, in a sense, Dickensian now
partly means Leansian, I suppose.
716
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,519
They become linked in the way
they depict each other.
717
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:04,239
David Lean
is really the first director
718
00:43:04,240 --> 00:43:07,319
to actually make Dickens
live on the screen.
719
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:10,399
Live to the point
not just when you're watching it,
720
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:14,679
but that actually live in the memory
years and years and years
721
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:18,519
after you've seen these films,
because he understood
722
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:21,399
the impact that you could have
723
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:25,839
if you created
the right kind of vision of it.
724
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:30,039
It's stylised,
but not to the point of inhumanity.
725
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:32,839
He's kept the flesh and blood
of the characters.
726
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:36,519
He's been faithful to Dickens
in terms of the narrative
727
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,799
and also the moral complexity of it.
728
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:43,679
And yet he's sort of managed
to edit 'em down
729
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:47,199
into sort of two-hour movies,
you know, these huge books.
730
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:52,399
And so that's what I think
gives them their impact.
731
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,519
It's impossible to think of Dickens
732
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:57,719
and specifically of Great
Expectations as a story
733
00:43:57,720 --> 00:44:02,159
without thinking of...
Miss Havisham's wedding banquet,
734
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:05,119
or without thinking of the character
of Magwitch
735
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:08,879
looking like Finlay Currie. To me
the two are completely inextricable.
736
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:14,719
And I often wonder why any filmmaker
would try to remake this adaptation
737
00:44:14,720 --> 00:44:18,239
or try to do it, because
Lean did it the best, I think.
738
00:44:18,240 --> 00:44:21,959
Is this the best ever Dickens'
- adaptation?
- I would...
739
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:25,439
I can't think of a better. I
genuinely can't think of a better,
740
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:29,839
because of the harmony between
the writer and the director.
741
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:33,839
You know, we will never know
what Dickens thinks of this film,
742
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:38,519
but it feels to me like it's...
got the spirit there
743
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:43,119
in a way which is very, very hard
to capture,
744
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:48,119
because Dickens
is a joyous comedic writer.
745
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:51,679
He's funny and alive and vibrant.
746
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:55,119
And people get defeated by Dickens
and they churn out stuff.
747
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:59,079
It's Lean who understands him
and who brings him to the screen.
748
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:02,959
It's a moving work of art...
that makes him live.
749
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:06,559
Almost, like, living together.
They really are. They are...
750
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:09,599
This is... Lean and Dickens
as Lennon and McCartney.
751
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:11,359
This is absolute harmony.
752
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:15,839
For all the wonderful television and
film adaptations of Dickens' novels
753
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:19,519
that have followed, including Lean's
version of Oliver Twist,
754
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:23,599
none can match the startling effect
of Great Expectations.
755
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:26,079
The dreamlike power of the film
756
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:29,119
has shaped the way
we imagine the author's world.
757
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:34,039
In every sense, this is the
definitive adaptation of Dickens.
758
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:03,720
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