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The basement was designed as a torture
chamber.
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Written on the wall is, in the basement,
nobody can hear the screen.
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We got hate mail.
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Someone threw a brick through our front
window.
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Your friend is dead, and people blame
you for it.
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They did torture him.
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They did humiliate him.
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I just wanted to hold him in my arms,
you know, because I knew it was the last
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time I was going to see him.
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These are all handprints of kids, you
know, in Pleasant Hill.
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They've just sold the plaque so we could
have all of our kids out here,
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hopefully forever.
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Just that we could come by the park and,
like, remember.
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Matt was 11 when we brought him here and
got his handprint.
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It's amazing that his handprint at 11 is
the same size as mine right now.
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This handprint's still here.
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He's not.
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It lasted longer than he did.
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My name's Greg Keeney. I'm a commander
with the Chico Police Department.
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When I arrived at the crime scene, I
looked at it for a time.
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It didn't really mean anything.
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Like there wasn't like a gun or a bullet
hole. I can look at all of this and
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there's no one thing that says, oh,
crime, definite crime.
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That's the crazy part about this whole
thing.
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And as I was coming down those stairs,
it was just bitter cold coming up. I
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mean, it just kind of hits you right in
the face.
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And then down in here, there was a bar
set up and there were fans.
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I mean, there's fans all around.
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Yeah, it was just...
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Just filthy and dirty and smelled.
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There was water all over the floor.
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There had been a sewer pipe that had
broke, and so there was raw sewage on
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floor.
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It smelled horrible.
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There was just graffiti written all over
it.
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All sorts of things.
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The overriding one was, in the basement,
no one can hear you scream.
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My name is Debbie Smith.
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I knew from the time I was 11 that I
wanted to have children.
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I always loved children. I loved
babysitting.
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But I knew that one day I wanted to have
children because I really wanted to be
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a mom.
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It took me a long time to have Matt, and
I ended up having to be artificially
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inseminated.
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Just having him, it was just that much
more precious because it had taken so
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long and worked so hard, which is how he
got his name.
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Matthew means a gift from God, and I
cherished that.
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Matt loved Travis from the minute he saw
him.
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He was so proud.
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Matt was his protector, he was his
teacher, he was his big brother.
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Matt was basically quiet, kind of shy.
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You couldn't help but like him because
he treated everybody equally.
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He never judged anybody.
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If he knew that maybe you had too much
to drink, he would take your keys. He
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would make sure that you got home
safely.
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I am Christy Pollitt.
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Me and Matt knew each other since we
were really little. Our parents were
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friends, so we were always at each
other's house, just playing into the
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Oftentimes we'd spend the night at each
other's house, too. So we were really
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close when we were kids.
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I loved going to school in Chico.
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Matt was a year or two behind me, so I
kind of brought Matt into the life that
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had while I was there.
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We moved him into this really awesome
old house.
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And he was super excited because he
hadn't really ever been out on his own.
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I was dating Mike Quintana.
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And I introduced him to Matt because I
thought maybe Matt would like some
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friends that were male and not just my
female roommates.
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Matt and I, we hit it off pretty
quickly.
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I think our personalities were
different. I think I was a little bit
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outgoing, a lot more outgoing.
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Matt was a little bit more reserved.
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He was very thoughtful.
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Never had a harsh or mean word about
anybody.
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That's why we became such great friends.
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Anytime I would ask, hey, you want to go
do this or you want to go here, he was
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always up for it.
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Chica Police.
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Hello, we have an emergency.
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February 2nd, 2005, I was actually
driving to work and I got a call from
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detective sergeant who asked me to come
to fraternity.
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on 4th Street.
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They discovered a student unconscious in
the basement of the house.
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I thought, okay, did this kid overdose
on drugs or alcohol or something
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like that?
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I had actually gotten a call really
early in the morning from Mike, probably
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like 4 or 5 in the morning.
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He just told me that something had
happened with Matt and he didn't really
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what was going on it was at 6 10 in the
morning because i'll never forget the
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time i got this text from my husband and
it said to call him you know it was
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urgent he had gotten a call from bill
vall which was christie's dad his best
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friend he said that there was something
wrong with matt he was in a hospital
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so i called the hospital in chico
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And so when the doctor came on, he said,
when he found your son,
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he was at full arrest.
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And he said, I just need you to get to
the hospital as soon as possible, but
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don't drive yourself.
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And I was like, is he going to make it?
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I walked down into the basement of the
residence.
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It was like a refrigerator down there.
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The basement had several vents that were
open to the outside.
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The fans were kind of set up in those
areas to pull the cold air in from the
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outside.
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Certainly somebody had made some
attempts to make it very cold down
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There was a small amount of blood pooled
in front of the bench.
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Based on other incidents that we've had
at fraternity houses with overdose -type
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situations, we thought, oh, hey, this is
what happened here.
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But we processed it as a crime scene, as
if somebody had been murdered down
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there, because otherwise you don't get a
second chance.
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We just go racing out to Chico, and I'm
making phone calls.
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Mike's not answering his phone.
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I called the fraternity house, and
there's nobody at the house answering
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phone.
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Nobody's answering any phones.
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And then I get this phone call from the
hospital's social worker.
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When I'm thinking, you know what, a
social worker is calling me, that means
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bad.
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And she said, she said, Debbie, we don't
like to do this over the phone.
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Chico Police.
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Hello, we have an emergency. We have a
guy that went into seizures earlier and
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we're afraid he's not...
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I was woken up.
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They told me that something had gone
wrong in the basement.
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I was the junior active general.
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I was the one that was in charge at the
time.
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And so I went down towards the entrance
to the basement. I could see all the way
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down the flight of stairs.
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that there were paramedics performing
some kind of triage to Matt.
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And that was when I was told that he had
gone into a seizure and foam was coming
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out of his mouth or something like that.
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The paramedic kept saying, what
happened, what happened? Were you guys
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Was he drinking?
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Is there drugs involved? What drugs?
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I said, he drank water. He only drank
water.
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They didn't believe us.
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And then they rushed him off to the
ambulance.
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By this time, everybody in there is
scared.
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We were all conversing amongst ourselves
to figure out what happened.
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I think someone thought that he had had
a seizure, that he had maybe epilepsy or
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something.
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I was really out of it.
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I hadn't slept in four days, and I just
watched.
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My best friend collapsed.
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I didn't have a good feeling.
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We brought him down to a common area to
find out exactly what happened.
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We knew that Matt was a pledge to their
fraternity.
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So the story that we were getting from
the group was that the pledges were
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calisthenics and that Matt had had some
sort of seizure that
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led him to the situation he was in now.
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So as we're driving, Stephanie, the
social worker, keeps calling.
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She said, you just need to get here as
soon as possible.
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Finally, I said, Stephanie, I can't take
it anymore, and I think there's
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something that you're not telling me I
need to know.
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And I hear her saying, I'm sorry Matt
didn't make it.
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The phone slips from me, and all I can
see is I turn everything I went in slow
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motion.
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I just
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know
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that like we pulled into some little
truck stop or something and And we got
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and we just jumped into each other's
arms.
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In that instant, I was like, our lives
are changed forever because our family
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four is now three.
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We were asking for the fraternity
brothers' assistance in the
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to let them know the severity of the
investigation, we let them know that
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had died.
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When we were told by the police that
Matt had died, it just kind of hit the
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room.
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It's almost as if everything happened on
a two -minute delay, you know?
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Everyone's faces were the exact same
upon finding out that he passed away
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about two minutes later when it really
sunk in.
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One of the fraternity members, Dave
Mastretti, started screaming and yelling
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pounding his fists against the walls.
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He wanted to leave.
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He was stopped by officers.
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I don't think anybody had to tell me
Matt had passed away.
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I think I knew when he got carried out
of that house.
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Then we finally got to the hospital.
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I said, I want to see Matt.
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When we got into the room where he was,
we walk in.
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And it's kind of dark, and there's all
these beds, and it's quiet in there.
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And at the very end, there's a light,
and there's a person down there, and you
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could tell that there's a body down
there.
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And I said, is that Matt?
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And she said, yes.
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And my knees buckled.
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I just wanted to hold him in my arms,
you know, because I knew it was the last
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time I was going to see him.
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And she was like, you can't touch him. I
was like, I touched his arm.
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Because I had to. I just had to.
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But I just wanted to scoop him up and
just... Hold him like you hold your
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babies.
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You had a healthy young man that was
doing an hour's
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worth of calisthenics and had a seizure
and died.
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And what the fraternity members were
telling us about how Matt died didn't
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up.
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The level of suspicion of all of us
there was pretty high.
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So we divided up all of the fraternity
members and conducted interviews back at
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the police department with them.
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I don't have our full rights yet.
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The stuff we did last night was pretty
much what we do every year, especially
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before I went through it.
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It's like a peasy night. It's a lot of
work.
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It's water.
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It's humiliation. It's mental.
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It didn't work out at all, you know. We
did less than 50 push -ups, and that was
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it. Everything was okay with Matt and
Mike when they went to bed. It was
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fun.
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They were definitely trying to hide
something.
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There was something going on there that
they didn't want us to know.
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I remember looking at my hands and them
still being covered in Matt's blood.
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And that's when I broke down.
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His blood is still here.
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That's when I lost it.
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The police asked to go individually with
them to the police station
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to answer a few questions.
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I remember being in the police station
in the interrogation room.
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That was the moment that it just got
extremely real.
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Throughout Hell Week, you just undergo a
bunch of rituals.
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The last night is the worst night ever.
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It's called movie night.
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The pledges are instructed to stand on
top of a bench.
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There are fans put in place around you,
and you're handed a five -gallon jug and
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told to drink and pass and drink and
pass and drink and pass.
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The active members were watching a movie
or playing poker while they're going
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through this.
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During that time, you're asked
questions.
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And when you get answers incorrect, the
fans would turn on.
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You'd be soaking wet, and so you'd be
cold.
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The detectives were pulling
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little bits of information out of all of
them and kind of... fit the puzzle
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together, as it were, kind of put the
night together.
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When we interviewed the EMT crew that
came out there, one of the interesting
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things that they actually said was they
thought that Matt, he looked like a
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drowning victim.
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So we all thought that there was
something more going on than just some
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calisthenics and a seizure.
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Gabe really downplayed his involvement.
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He said that basically there had to have
been something else wrong with him
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because it was no big deal and it was
easy.
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And so that was a huge red flag.
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In the beginning, in those first hours,
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We didn't know anything other than he
died in a basement.
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He just looked bruised, and he just
looked like he'd been through hell, you
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know? How is this an accident?
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You know, I was just trying to do
whatever I could for Greg and Debbie.
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So we put together the candlelight vigil
that we held at the fraternity house.
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There must have been hundreds of people,
if not a thousand people, that all came
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to pay their respects to Matt.
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People gave talks about who he was as a
person.
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It was about coming to heal at that
point.
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All the guys were really nice.
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We didn't talk about anything that
happened in that basement. It wasn't
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that that night. It was just about Matt.
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That's all we wanted to hear.
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I naturally assumed, since they were
considered fraternity brothers, that
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were his friends, that they would take
care of him.
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So, of course, nothing nefarious
happened in that basement, right?
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The autopsy occurred, I believe, two
days after his death.
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It was rough.
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So what we learned, the pathologist, Dr.
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Resk, did a very thorough analysis and
found that the cause of his death was
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water intoxication coupled with
hypothermia.
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I think initially everybody expected it
to be some sort of drug or alcohol
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-related issue with it, and when it
wasn't and the actual facts of the case
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out, I think everybody's pretty shocked.
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They said, we think that he was killed
during a hazing. I was like, killed? It
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wasn't an accident?
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So in this investigation, there was a
lot of information flowing in.
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We learned that this water hazing had
been going on for many, many years,
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rituals and initiation processes, even
one that involved a coffin that they had
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made that they would put their pledges
in and then lower them into a pool of
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water, almost to simulate like drowning.
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It was only a matter of time before
somebody was going to die.
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After everything happened, the
fraternity fell apart.
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People were at each other's throats.
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Everybody knew, like, Kytow killed a
pledge.
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They also ruined the Greek system
because all the Greek system was
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a year after what happened with Matthew.
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It started to sink in.
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how the rest of the world looked at us
and these events.
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Letters being sent that people were
hoping that we would get anthrax and
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Someone threw a brick through our front
window telling us that they hoped that
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this place would be burned down.
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It became an us -against -the -world
type of thing. You can almost start to
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delude yourself that even things that
you know were wrong all of a sudden
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weren't wrong.
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I think the gravity of what had occurred
sunk in, and so we were getting less
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and less cooperation from the fraternity
members as the investigation continued.
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And then everyone started pointing
fingers.
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Mike was a witness for the police at
this point, and he became like one
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of the enemies.
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And so with that, we brought the
district attorney in.
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It would have been very difficult to
know exactly what happened without Mike
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there.
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He provided the base upon which much of
the investigation was done.
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He shattered that wall of silence
because he felt that he didn't want to
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part of a organization that killed his
friend.
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Having your friend pass away from
something that you survived, I can't
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to feel, you know, I would have rather
it been the other way around.
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Especially because it was me who wanted
to go party and be a rat boy and run
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around.
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He wasn't as gung -ho about it as I was.
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The beginning was all about bonding.
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So by the time Hell Week came around, we
had put in a lot of time and energy,
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five months, and we weren't going to
quit on each other.
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That Hell Week, the junior actives,
which would be myself and the seven
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people that I had pledged with, were
going to be the ones in charge.
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So movie night, we showed up, and they
told us that we're going to balance on
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the bench on one leg.
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And then they hand us one of those big
five -gallon jugs.
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And we're to drink this water and pour
it on ourselves while we're questioned.
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So they had maybe about four house fans
pointed towards us.
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I've never been so cold in my life.
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Our bodies are ready to give out.
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We went through about five of those
jugs. We peed ourselves. We threw up.
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You know what happens when you drink a
lot of water?
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Your thinking goes first.
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You can't think. You can't concentrate.
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It's called water intoxication because
you feel drunk.
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And then your eyesight gets blurry.
Everything is hazy.
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That night, everything felt fine and
normal.
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Matt and Mike seemed a little tired.
They seemed exhausted. They seemed
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And that was to be expected.
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Every fraternity member had gone through
the same thing.
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Around 1 .30 in the morning.
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Jerry said, you know, okay, we've had
enough.
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We've been at it for five, six hours.
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I had class at 8 in the morning, and I
remember thinking, I need to get at
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a few hours of sleep.
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I remember telling everybody to just
kind of finish up the night and that I
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would check on them afterwards.
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Carlos and JP and Gabe were still down
there.
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Gabe had come back from the bars at that
time. I know that he had been drinking.
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And that's when Gabe took over.
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Gabe got us up on the bench again, got
us drinking water again, got us throwing
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up again, pulling us down, working out.
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It had to be about another hour and a
half, if not two hours.
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Gabe came across as a bully. He was
relishing in administering pain and
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discomfort to these two.
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He just wouldn't stop. He would not let
up.
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Me and Matthew were doing push -ups, and
Matthew, on his way down,
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collapsed.
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And he rolled on his back, and he... I
could tell he was having a seizure, and
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he was convulsing, and he had bitten
down on his tongue really hard. His
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was stuck in between his teeth, and his
eyes were rolling back in his head.
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I put my finger in his mouth to try to
release his tongue, and he bit down
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on me so hard I started to bleed.
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I said, Matt is having a seizure. Call
the ambulance.
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And that's when a few of the brothers
adamantly convinced me that they were
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of the fire department and EMTs and this
is what they're studying. And it's
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fine. He's fine. It's no big deal. It's
over.
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He's fine.
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What that does to the human body,
drinking lots of water, is it washes out
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electrolytes in your blood.
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And if you don't have it, your body just
shuts down.
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They pulled me and him out of the water
onto the couch.
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And Matt's head was in my lap. And I
heard him snoring.
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And I said, guys, he's snoring.
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He's asleep, you know.
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And then he stopped breathing.
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I said, guys, he stopped breathing. He
stopped breathing.
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Call the ambulance.
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And still there was pushback.
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And then he started to foam out of his
mouth.
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I finally, finally one of them called
911.
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Chica Police.
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Hello, we have an emergency. We have a
guy that went into seizures earlier and
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we're afraid he's not... What's the
address?
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The biggest question that I had was, why
didn't anyone call 911 earlier?
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That these people should have known,
should have called an ambulance.
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They deprived him of that opportunity
for early medical intervention
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was an important part in what we were
looking at this homicide.
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We went to the precinct and the
detective told us we think that he
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was killed during a hazing.
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I was like, so they killed our son?
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They said, with the way the laws are
written, we probably won't be able to
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anybody accountable.
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You can't use the word kill.
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and nobody accountable in the same
sentence.
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There's no really explaining it, you
know.
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You just want to find answers.
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And going back to the scene of the
crime, where the answers are, I just had
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pull where I had to be where Matt was.
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I thought after 14 years I could walk
into this basement and, I mean, not have
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breakdown.
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It was really harder than I thought it
was going to be.
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From a legal standpoint, a case like
this was a very difficult case to make.
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I thought that there was a pretty good
chance that we were not going to be able
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to hold anybody criminally responsible.
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And so we kept pushing.
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We knew, based upon our conversations
with the University Police Department,
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members of fraternities and sororities
had to go through
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that were put on by the university.
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I specifically asked the gentleman that
gave the training if drinking water
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could be deadly.
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The trainer said it would be as clear as
pointing a gun at somebody that if you
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make somebody drink mass quantities of
water, you can kill them.
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We were able to secure the sign -in
sheet from that training.
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So that was the moment that we knew that
we had something.
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And so it was our smoking gun that we
were looking at. It all was
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able to be put together into that jigsaw
puzzle of evidence.
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Sergeant Keeney called and he said,
Debbie, we've got warrants out.
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They're going out this morning.
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He started going through the details of
what had happened to Matt.
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We just thought it was going to have a
breakdown.
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It was a shock to be presented with an
arrest warrant.
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I was told that I was being charged with
involuntary manslaughter.
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I was in uncharted territory emotionally
on how I feel being a murderer.
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That was important to say, okay, we're
getting felony convictions here.
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This necessitated very severe
consequences.
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Nothing I can say here today will bring
back Matthew Carrington.
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I will do whatever I can to inform
others of the stupidity and
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hazing. I will live with the
consequences of hazing for the rest of
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My actions killed a good person.
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After... What happened with Matthew, my
drinking got a lot worse.
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I blamed myself for what I didn't do to
protect my friend.
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I wish I was somebody different who
would have been able to do things
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differently.
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Got up, ran out of the house, ran past
them, went and got on the phone and
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called the ambulance. If somebody would
have called an hour earlier, Matt would
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be alive.
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After I got out of jail, I continued to
drink and do drugs and screw up my
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life, partly because it had no value
anymore.
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And I'd love to sit there and tell
myself that it might have been different
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was down in the basement, but I don't
even know if it would have been
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if I was down there. I don't know if I
would have made the right decision.
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I don't even know how I atone.
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Matt, by all accounts, was a great net
bonus for
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this world.
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I don't know what he could have
accomplished or the people whose lives
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have touched and probably touched in a
much better way than I did.
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I felt that Matt was a way better person
than I was.
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If one of us were supposed to die that
night, whoever's in charge got that one
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wrong.
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It's a struggle.
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Some days are worse, especially when you
get to his birthday. You go through the
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holidays.
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How do you say goodbye?
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It's important for people to remember,
you know, it was a horrible tragedy that
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didn't need to happen.
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And in order for us to make change and
for them to understand, they need to
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remember, you know, what happened in
this house.
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I knew at some point I was going to have
to let it go and forgive them in order
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to move forward.
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I can't live with hate in my heart.
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