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Come on in. The place we've never met.
We have lights everywhere and all that.
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No, it looks good.
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Come on in. Who have we got here?
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We have some of the lads. Hello.
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We have Jack White.
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Hello. Nice to meet you. Nice to meet
you. Big Rob. Hello, you are Big Rob.
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Oh, there's another one here. Hello.
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We have another lad coming soon, Big
Steve.
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Okay, I already feel very overwhelmed.
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How can I be anything other than
straight?
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It'd be obvious. I'm not gay.
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You know, I definitely know that I'm a
straight guy.
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Right, straight in. Yeah, so we were
filming here the other day, so we set
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up for actually Troy, and they're
straight going.
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Isn't that right, Troy?
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I was saying about me and you, we've
done the video here of you.
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Yes, yes, we did.
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This was what? They were talking about
it.
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Yeah,
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me and Troy lied down there, and we
filmed the more documentary style, so we
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spoke to the camera and said, look,
we're doing this for your entertainment.
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We're going to explore together.
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Okay. Yeah.
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Was that the first time that you f***ed
a guy up? Yeah, he was shaking.
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It was nerve -wracking because it's
different when it's one of the lads.
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It's really different compared to
someone who you know is loving it.
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The mirror is very dirty because I done
something with the mirror yesterday.
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You did what? I done a video with the
mirror yesterday.
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You f***ed up into the mirror? Yeah, I
went all over the mirror.
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Okay,
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so this is what you were telling me on
the podcast.
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uh childhood home yeah that's my council
that i didn't room i even made like
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props legit prop so this is basically my
flat grown up right okay and then this
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is where you'll also do scenes on these
sofas yeah we've done loads of things
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here yeah this is like my favorite room
you know for like um real life you
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shouldn't do that like style porn right
okay he has a custom request for a
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kissing video okay so um and jack is
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You two are going to start kissing.
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You rub them up and stuff like that. And
just get into it, you know. And then
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ultimately you're going to take off. Do
you want to take off your jacket and
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start with? Yeah.
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Three, two, one. Don't look at me.
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I think you should go more.
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Take your tops off.
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I think it looks alright.
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Yes. I used to have abs before. You went
to like muscle and then... I was
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muscle, I was huge.
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I had like 18 pounds and everything. And
then my fans started like being 6 '8",
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23 pounds and looked at that part.
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Right, so this time, yeah, you're going
to, same again, you're just going to
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kiss and then you go straight on top of
him.
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Yeah, so just be mindful of me as well
when you're kissing, like give me a lot
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of tongue action and a lot of like...
This is the fourth time I've ever kissed
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man. Biting lips and stuff. This is the
fourth time.
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Today.
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I mean, it looks like you've done it
before.
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People can't understand how you can be
straight and do stuff with men as well.
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People ask me what my sexuality is. I
say, well, I'm straight.
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And they're like, but how can you be
straight? It's not possible for you to
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straight. I'm like, well, I'm only
physically attracted to females.
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Yes, I do stuff with males, but I'm not
physically attracted to a male.
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So how can I be anything other than
straight?
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The place has rooms everywhere.
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What was this before you took it over?
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It was an old Redundant building, but
before it was a college, a training
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college. If someone wanted to come in,
wanted to start OnlyFans, I sort of
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showed them the ways how to do it.
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How to do the model release forms
properly.
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Just little tips and hints.
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How to get your account up and running.
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So this isn't, I thought you were going
to do like a naughty school.
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Oh yeah, we do that.
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So we can't have an audio school set in
OnlyFans. I did originally downstairs
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was a proper classroom.
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Right. But OnlyFans made me take it
down. Why is it?
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Because you can't mix like class and...
Ah, okay.
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Yeah, right. But we do boardroom style
things in here. And then this is your...
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They're just tips and stuff I wrote up
to help people with the pages.
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Just help and guide you along the way.
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So yeah, even like how to do your
identifications, how to sign up to your
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And do you do stuff about tax and how to
deal with money? Yeah, everything.
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Teach people about STI checks.
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Okay. How important they are every four
weeks. You have to go into Dean Street
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in London. So this changes all the time
too. We were filming a builder's office
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in here.
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Yeah. And normally what I do is I pull
this table out here. We get rid of all
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the builder's stuff, put the table here.
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And I have like the stuff there and it
becomes an interrogation room.
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I mean, this bed looks a bit flimsy.
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So that bed, we done something with
Bonnie Blue on that bed.
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What were you doing on her? We fucked
her, like, hard, hard.
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On this little bed? Yeah. Solid. It's a
good bed. Solid. Is it? Yeah.
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Okay. So that's why it's tilted down
that way, so we could get the right
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God, your, um... I broke the table.
Laundry and stuff must be insane. Oh, I
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know. I have to take it all home and do
it myself.
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Really? All home?
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Yeah. You don't even go to a laundromat
and do it? No, I just take it all home
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and do it myself.
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Mad. Times are tough, you know?
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I'll tell you stories and videos as we
go along.
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Yeah.
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So your porn name... Is my name. Big
Rob, yeah. I'm Big Rob, yeah. And did
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start doing this because you met Andy?
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No, I was doing this because I had
another friend called Vince. He was a
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for Armani at the time.
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And Vince and Big Josh Watson.
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They got me into this probably 2019.
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I did it for a year and then I quit for
two years because obviously...
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You know, I found a relationship.
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They didn't want me to do it, even
though I was becoming good at what I was
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doing. I decided to quit for love, and
then I restarted again in October 2022.
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I've been doing it ever since, full
-time.
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Really, full -time? Full -time. I've got
my own studio.
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I've got my own offices.
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Yeah, I do really well. 10 ,000 to 12
,000 awards.
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These are so good, isn't it? Two years.
By that point, all 6 ,000, 23 ,000.
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There's not a lot of men out there like
me.
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as such you know I'm very body positive
as well and everyone on my socials
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appreciate the dad boss you know what I
mean so but that's just a snippet of
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what I do on OnlyFans and everything
else you know how far do you go with men
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I've not I've not gone the full way of
topping everyone's saying I should you
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know but then that's the boundary that's
going to be more decisions to cross if
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I ever do you've only bottomed no but
yeah I do everything get rimmed
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Blowjobs, kissing, room shots, loads of
stuff with the lads here.
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Yeah. But I've never fucked a girl.
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And I don't think I will, but they never
say never.
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Oh, I wasn't expecting that.
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Yeah. This is awesome.
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So, yeah, this is the fake taxi.
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Was one of, or is one of your creators a
cabbie and they brought this? No, John
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from Fake Taxi. You know John from Fake
Taxi? No.
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Oh, you know the fake taxi on Pornhub?
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No. John, well, you wouldn't because
you're not into it.
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Straight book.
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Okay. This room isn't that sexy to me,
but you think... Yeah.
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Do you do a lot of gay scenes in here?
No, I've never done... I've done a
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group... Oh, no. It used to be a chav
living room before.
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And we've done a chav scene here, but,
like... You love chav stuff.
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I love chav stuff. I absolutely love it.
Can I have a chav?
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Give me one where you're sitting like
this, more forward. So if you get flat,
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you're sitting forward.
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See how nice?
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There we go.
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What did you say?
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This is where my most popular video with
Josh Moore was, was here.
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Well, the one where he gave you head.
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Yeah. And, like, I had him bent over the
thing and I was rubbing my dick on his
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ass and stuff like that. They were
loving it. Oh, God. Here we go.
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So, normally, there's a big fuck machine
that goes on here.
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But Big Rod brought it home.
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This is more of what I expected, to be
honest.
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Do you know, I've only ever filmed in
here once.
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So this space, though, gets used a lot
by other people, just not you? Yeah.
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Right. It's just not my style, that's
all.
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This is my paddling pool.
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So I normally put that on top of the
wrestling mat.
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Okay.
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Pump it up, put baby oil into it, and
then get rolling around naked while the
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lads. Nice. So that's really popular,
but it's just out of the way for the
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winter. This is your most popular?
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Yeah. And you call this, what, the
workshop or something? No, I mean, just
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building. I do a lot of pissing videos
and stuff here.
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A lot of rough, ready videos. Pissing
videos?
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Yeah. What's the pissing video?
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Well, there was a screw -up GoPro on the
ceiling.
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We get someone down into the
wheelbarrow.
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I have a lot of lads around pissing on
someone.
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And they're up there.
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And they'll be drinking the piss? Yeah.
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And they do well, those videos? Oh,
yeah.
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What we're going to do today is we're
going to do a circle jerk.
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Yeah. Very simple.
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We're going to watch a porno there.
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Yeah. Us two lads are going to jerk off,
and you're going to sit there watching
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us. I'll keep my hands up here, then.
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Is that awkward?
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Yes.
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I think we're nervous.
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Do you ever touch each other?
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No. Oh, I know. I want to do a video
like that soon.
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That's like my nice bed.
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Yeah. We fuck around in it, don't we?
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I kept those the way they were.
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But we do a lot of pissing videos in
here too.
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You do a lot of pissing videos?
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Yeah. People like it. So we normally get
someone on their knees there and all
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those lads are pissing them.
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No.
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Thieve, but big Thieve or just Thieve?
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Big Thieve, but you can call me Thieve.
Okay.
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How long have you been working on
OnlyFans now?
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Four or five months. Since October.
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Really? You're a newbie?
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Yeah. So, pretty fresh to it.
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How's it going?
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I love it, to be honest with you.
Really? Yeah, it's changed my life.
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What were you doing before?
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I was a lorry driver and a personal
trainer.
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Okay. So I was waking up at like three,
four in the morning.
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getting home late as well yeah so this
is a better lifestyle for me have more
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time and more money so and how did you
get into it um to be honest i was trying
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to do online coaching um so i made a
tick tock i was trying to do like
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videos and i took my top off in a few
other videos and then people kept asking
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for any fans and i just sort of went
this route and then you linked up with
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or did you know him before so i slid in
andy's dms okay i think he's the only
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guy i've ever slid in his dms
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Yeah, I just got told by a few people,
sort of, he was, like, the king of
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OnlyFans for guys, so dropped him a
message and, uh, see if he can help you.
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And have you ever been with a man?
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No, I haven't.
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On camera?
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I haven't, no, not on camera. But you've
done scenes, like, we just saw that.
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Yeah, so I've done scenes like that,
and, um, I get sucked off by men on
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Okay. Um, but that's sort of as far I've
gone so far.
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I probably will have sex with a man on
camera at some point in the future, just
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haven't sort of got to that stage yet. A
lot of your followers will be gay men.
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Yeah. So a lot of your content is
appealing to gay people.
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Yeah. And is that something that you
expected when you got into OnlyFans?
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To be honest with you, just from the gym
stuff and things like that before, I
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think you get a lot of attention from
the gay community as it is sort of with
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your top off quite a lot.
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Yeah.
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I've grown up around quite a lot of gay
people. I've got sort of gay friends
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growing up, so I've sort of just always
been comfortable with it. So it's not
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really, not sort of a new world to me
that much.
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And what do you think it is about
straight guys hooking up with each other
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gay guys really like and find kinky and
hot?
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To be honest, I've been told it's the
fact that we're dropping our ego a
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bit and being vulnerable.
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So they like the fact that we're sort of
being vulnerable and just having a
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laugh. Yeah.
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So we're able to be sort of more
comfortable with each other. I think
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sort of do this stuff with each other as
well, you do become more of like a unit
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together. So you all have each other's
back. You sort of look out for each
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other. Yeah. And it's sort of a nice
little community that you have together
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well. Yeah. So to be honest, I think
doing it has just sort of improved my
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100%. Have a good day.
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What's this? Just a random exploring
wall.
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Can you do it? Yeah.
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So we have a lot of ADHD lads.
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Yeah, same as me. And I try to keep them
entertained.
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Oh, that's fun. This is normally where
we take photos.
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Okay.
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And then this is my newest addition.
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Ah, your pride and joy.
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So there's no bottom in it.
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There's no what? There's no bottom in
it.
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Okay. So people can go round the back
and put their head on there.
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Right. How long have you been doing
OnlyFans now?
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I've been doing it for two years.
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Okay. I've been doing the lad stuff
since July last year.
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Right. Everything I was doing was
straight until July.
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And was it working with Andy or have you
just come into his...
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university here recently?
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No, it was Andy that called me in, in
July.
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Oh, right. Yeah, I come down, I shot, I
was doing some scenes with the girls.
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Yeah. And Andy was like, you're doing
really well on the, on the lad's side,
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like, come down and do it.
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It took me about six, six, seven months
to get my head around it. Yeah. Then I
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was like, you know what, why not? Let's
go give it a go, see what happens and,
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yeah. So when he originally said to you,
why don't you try doing stuff with
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guys? Because I imagine there's far more
money there, right? Yeah. Lots more.
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Yeah, a lot. The audience is bigger.
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Yeah. So what was your initial
hesitation?
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The obvious. I'm not gay.
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I think I've got kids.
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I'm engaged with kids. So it's like
putting that image out worried me a
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bit.
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But it just got to a point where I just
thought, you know what, why not? Give it
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a go, see what happens.
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Yeah. And what was your first scene with
a guy?
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My first... I
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don't know if that's YouTube friendly.
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My first scene with lads was with Andy.
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A lad called Dean and a lad called Juicy
Santa.
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Okay. And I failed miserably.
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What were you supposed to do?
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I just couldn't perform.
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Oh, right. So they were... It just
didn't work.
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Okay. So we started the scene. I
couldn't... Couldn't do it.
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So I pulled, Andy pulled me out of the
scene, and he still sold it.
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He said, it looks real. He said, it's
real. I'm not, it was my first scene
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the guys.
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I'm straight.
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Yeah. So I couldn't, basically, I
couldn't get hard, basically.
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And he sold it like that, and people
loved it.
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They loved the fact that, like, how real
it was. Yeah. I was nervous as hell.
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Yeah. I was straight. I couldn't do it.
I had to come out of the scene, so.
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And they were just asking, The fans of
that were actually angry. We want to see
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him again. We want to see him again. We
want to see him again. Yeah.
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So, yeah, I did it again and got a
little bit more comfortable.
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Because so many of you guys are straight
that are in gay scenes, do you have to
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take Viagra or anything to help you get
through them? Yeah, of course we do,
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yeah. Is that a requisite? Yeah.
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So that's pretty much every time? Every
single time.
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Is it? Yeah. Is that the thing for
everyone?
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You haven't gone there yet? Okay.
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But for you... I need it, yeah. You take
Viagra every single time you shoot with
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a guy?
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But on the first time you didn't,
because you weren't... The first time I
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It just didn't work? It still didn't
work.
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Really? Yeah, I was so nervous. I was so
nervous, that was all.
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I was fine in this situation, but as
soon as the camera came on, my nerves
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ripped me apart.
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Have you had penetrative sex with a guy?
No.
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And is that something that you don't
feel comfortable doing?
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Not yet.
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Like I said, if the time comes, I will.
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Yeah. But at the minute, I don't need
to.
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No. What I'm doing at the minute is
working, and I don't need to do that
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yet. But I've no doubt in a year's time
or a couple of years' time that it'll
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happen. Has it changed your own
sexuality?
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Do you feel it's shifted you more into a
bisexual lane now, or are you still
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very much straight?
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I don't know. I always say I'm still
straight.
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But everyone will have their own
perception of what I am.
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So whatever you think I am is what I am.
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Whatever someone else thinks I am is
what I am.
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If you don't think I am, then I'm not.
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So I don't particularly care what people
like me as.
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I'm just very sex positive, is what I
say.
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I'll try anything.
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I'm not bothered. Very few people that
still think I'm straight.
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But you have a girlfriend?
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Yes, I'm engaged.
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You're engaged, yeah.
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I've got four kids.
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And she's totally chilled out and fine
with everything?
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Yes, she's totally fine as well.
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Oh, she does? Well, that's perfect.
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Yeah, it was her that talked me into
getting into the lad side of it. Really?
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Yeah, because I couldn't do it. I
couldn't get my head around it. I was
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can't mentally.
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Physically, this is what it is.
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Mentally, I'm like, I couldn't do it.
Yeah. She was like, basically, get a
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What's the most requested partnership
that you get out of you boys as a group?
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So they say, we really want to see him
fucking him.
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My most requested partnership?
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Well, I'm not saying this because he's
sat there.
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It's him.
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It's the you two fucking.
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No, well, just doing something.
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So he's a pretty boy, isn't he? People
love him.
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You've given Andy head?
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Yeah. Doing that video was when I
realised how much money I could actually
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How much did you make on that one video?
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That video, in total now, it pushes 15
grand.
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15 grand just for you?
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Yes. For me,
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just my sales.
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Wow. In the first week, I did 7 grand on
that video. Wow.
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We did the video in December, I believe.
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And I guess that must be addictive. Once
you do something like that, you're
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nervous and then you see the return. You
must think, fuck, that was so easy.
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I've done it a couple of times.
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Yeah.
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When you get that money coming in, if I
can physically do it, I'll continue to
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do it. And that's what pushes you to
think, okay, maybe me and Steve will do
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something because then that's another
seven grand.
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We have the rugby locker room.
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So, yeah.
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Yeah, this is a good one.
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All the lads sit down here and doing
their thing and then there's someone in
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middle. So what's the most amount of
guys that you've had in this room?
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Oh, about 25.
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25? Yeah. So what would they all be
doing? Just 25 lads all here? We've done
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videos in one day. We've done a foot
fetish video.
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00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:23,420
Right. So we had a guy, we're taking off
our football boots and our football
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socks and stuff and doing the foot
fetish style videos.
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And I think we've done like a Blodger
Bukacki video.
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What are you going to wear for this?
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This. Are you going to take your t
-shirt off? Yeah.
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So how are we going to film this?
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Right, so...
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So
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you're the
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only gay person I've met today?
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Yeah.
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Amongst lots of straight men who are
hooking up with each other.
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For a lot of gay people, hooking up with
a straight guy is quite kinky. There's
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something very erotic about it. Some
people would look at you and think, God,
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you're so lucky you get to hook up with
all of these men that outside of the
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camera you wouldn't typically get to do.
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Yeah. And do you feel that or do you
just see it as work?
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Yeah, I don't get sexually aroused by
it. It's not something that I'm into, I
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would say. So I'm pretty much vanilla at
home.
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If I was getting with someone, I'm
pretty much vanilla in comparison.
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to what we do here so like all the dom
stuff that these guys do like it just
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does nothing for me really but yeah it's
all about the money just then I watched
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you doing a scene where you were giving
head to Steve yeah and Steve's a great
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looking guy yeah he's lovely yeah and
he's straight I think it's because I
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he's straight though whereas there's
like if I knew he was gay I'd be like
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I know that we're gonna fuck Okay.
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It's not.
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I'm just sucking him off. Really? So you
don't get any sexual pleasure from it
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at all? No.
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Doesn't happen.
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Really? Even though he's so sexy. He's
fat.
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00:20:06,860 --> 00:20:10,860
It's funny because I think that for gay
people, a lot of our preconceptions on
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straight people is that they're going to
reject us and bully us.
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But meeting all of these guys today and
how sexually open they are, and they
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just don't give a fuck.
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That's why I absolutely love them. Every
single person that comes to the studio,
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they... there's no like divide or like
well without us they're not going to
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money right so people always say to me
like oh you work with this person he's
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like oh they're gay for pay yeah but
you're the one paying for it so what
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00:20:40,110 --> 00:20:43,950
that right and what makes that wrong
like you're paying for porn you're
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aroused by it so I never understand when
people say oh but they're just gay for
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pay they work just as hard as if not
harder, because they have to get
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hard. So I always find it a bit awkward
when people say that to me.
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When I'm watching it, I feel like I'm
actually watching two guys hooking up.
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Like, Steve seemed really into it. Yeah.
And he was giving it all, you know, you
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like that and that sort of stuff.
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And it's that switch that goes off where
you just suddenly know you're being
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filmed and you get on with it. Yeah.
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Is Steve here?
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Yeah, it's on there. That's great.
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Lovely. Yeah. And three, two, one.
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Okay. The end.
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Cool.
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