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When I see you alone
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I see what's in your mind
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You want me, yes, you do
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You don't need to tell me
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I know you love me most
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No-one else take my place
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You need me, yes, you do
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Forever and ever
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We are in love, baby love child
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I take you so high
groovy love child
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Give me a kiss, baby love child
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Do it again... #
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Ayn Rand, 225-1, take two.
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BEEPING
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Who are you, Ayn Rand?
When I say that,
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I would like to know
just a little bit.
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You have an accent which is...
Russian. Russian.
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You were born in Russia? Yes.
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Came here... Oh, about 30 years ago.
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And whence did this philosophy
of yours come?
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Er...out of my own mind.
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With the sole acknowledgement of
a debt to Aristotle,
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who is the only philosopher
that ever influenced me.
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Uh-huh. I devised the rest of
my philosophy myself.
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Ayn Rand had left Russia
in the 1920s
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and gone to live in California.
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By chance, she met the film director
Cecil B DeMille,
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who gave her a job
as an extra on his epic films.
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All right now, give me everything
you've got, you people!
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Ready now? Speed, 957.
Places, everybody, this is a take!
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Clear the set! Camera!
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Then DeMille gave her a screenplay
to write called The Skyscraper.
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Rand hated the characters
and the plot,
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but the idea
was going to make her famous.
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She started to write
her own stories,
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and in 1943 she published a novel
called The Fountainhead.
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Its hero is an architect
called Howard Roark who refuses
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to compromise in his vision of how
to build a skyscraper in New York.
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It was a bestseller,
and was made into a film.
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Ayn Rand used Roark
to express her philosophy,
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that she called objectivism.
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Human beings, Rand said,
were alone in the universe.
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They must free themselves
of all forms of political and religious control
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and live their lives guided
only by their selfish desires.
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If they did this,
they would become heroic figures.
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I am primarily the creator
of a new code of morality
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which has so far
been believed impossible,
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namely a morality not based on
arbitrary edict, mystical or social.
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I hold that if man wants to
live on earth,
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his highest moral purpose is
the achievement of his own happiness,
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and that he must not
force other people
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nor accept their right to force him,
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that each must man must live
as an end in himself,
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and follow his own
rational self-interest.
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May I interrupt now? You may.
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In the 1950s,
Rand moved to New York.
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She lived next to her
favourite skyscraper, the Empire State Building.
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Rand's ideas were seen as
mad and dangerous.
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Selfishness and greed had led
to the financial chaos
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and the Depression of the 1930s.
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The job of politics
was to manage and control
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the selfish desires
of the individual.
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But Rand continued to write,
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and a small group of followers
began to form round her
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who believed in her vision
of another kind of world,
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where everyone was free.
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I was 19 when I met Ayn.
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I was very idealistic,
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and she appealed to everything
that was idealistic in me.
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We are heroic,
we can know the world,
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we can tame nature,
we can achieve our goals.
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We can do what we want.
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What does it matter that
we're alone? Who do we need?
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Why do we need anyone?
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We have ourselves.
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And that was enough?
And that was...for sure enough, yes.
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Definitely enough.
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Even at 19, I knew, "I'm not going
to meet anyone else like this.
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"This is once in a lifetime."
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Rand had died in 1981,
but by the start of the 1990s
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her novels had become a phenomenon
in America.
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A Library of Congress survey showed
that one of them, Atlas Shrugged,
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was now the second most influential
book in the country.
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The first was the Bible.
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And the group most inspired by her
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were the new entrepreneurs
of Silicon Valley,
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including some of the most powerful,
like Larry Ellison of Oracle.
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Many of them named their companies
and even their children after Rand and her novels.
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They set up reading groups
to spread her ideas.
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But above all, they saw themselves
as Randian heroes.
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I really felt like an Ayn Rand hero!
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I really did
feel like an Ayn Rand hero.
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I was one. I didn't just
feel like one, I was one!
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I was building the products.
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I was thinking independently,
I was...being rational.
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I was taking pride in what I did.
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Those are Ayn Rand
heroes' characteristics - I was an Ayn Rand hero.
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I wasn't in the book,
but I was an Ayn Rand hero.
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Just to give you an example, my...
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my six-year-old boy,
his middle name is Rand,
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and I was talking to someone
in...a classmate's dad,
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and we were talking about Ayn Rand
and this interview, and he said,
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"Oh, I'm a huge Ayn Rand fan, in
fact my girl's middle name is Ayn."
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And it's funny
when you see people, you see companies all the time
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called Fountainhead
or the Galt Group, and you see
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little evidence that Ayn Rand
has heavily influenced people.
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Many of the people here in Silicon
Valley were greatly inspired by Ayn Rand.
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Entrepreneurs who were
building computers,
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entrepreneurs in biotech,
entrepreneurs in software, in internet, networking.
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Many here were...were inspired by
Ayn Rand. It presented a vision.
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It presented a vision of
a...morally exciting enterprise,
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a morally glorious project.
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But the project was about more
than just the entrepreneurs being Randian heroes,
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because an idea was emerging
in California
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that said that
the new computer technologies
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could turn everyone
into heroic individuals.
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It was a vision of a society
where the old forms of political control would be unnecessary
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because computer networks
could create order in society without central control.
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This had never happened before,
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because at the heart of of
western political thought
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had always been a fear that
if you allowed individuals too much freedom, you would get anarchy.
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But ever since the 1970s,
computer utopians in California
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believed that if human beings
were linked by webs of computers,
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then together they could create
their own kind of order.
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It was a cybernetic dream which said
that the feedback of information
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between all the individuals
connected as nodes in the network
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would work to create
a self-stabilising system.
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The world would be stable,
yet everyone would be heroic Randian beings,
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completely free
to follow their desires.
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Now, in the 1990s,
the technologies had been built,
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and in 1991 a leading computer
engineer from California
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gave a dramatic demonstration.
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He was called Loren Carpenter.
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He invited hundreds of people
to a large shed.
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On each seat was a small paddle,
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and in front of them
was a giant screen.
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We told them nothing for a while.
We just left the things on the seats,
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and people would pick this up and
look at it and say, "What's that?"
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And then somebody noticed that
there's little red and green dots up there on the screen,
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and this is red and green, so maybe
that has something to do with that.
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It would be that. "OK, there I am."
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And when that happened,
the room erupted.
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Just totally spontaneous,
we didn't say anything.
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Carpenter then began an experiment.
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He projected the early
computer game Pong.
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Each half of the audience
jointly controlled the bat
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on their side of the screen.
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If an individual held up
red on their paddle,
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a computer sensor picked it up and
the bat on the screen went down.
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If they held up green, it went up.
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But they had to operate it together.
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When the game is being played and
the ball is going back and forth,
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if it's down here
and it's headed that way,
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some people are going to have to
show red
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to keep it from going
all the way to the top.
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If everybody just showed green,
it would slam up to the top and the ball would miss.
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So something happened
in that group of people,
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where some decided to show green
and some decided to show red
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to cause it to stop
in the right place.
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And we had no idea what did that.
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All right! Red, red, red, red, red!
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Oh, baby! Oh, yeah!
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Red!
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Carpenter believed that what he had
created was a model of a society
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where there was no hierarchy,
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where everyone made their own
decisions without guidance.
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Yet because they were linked by
the machines,
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out of it came a stability
and an order.
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So they're all acting as individuals,
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because each one of them can decide
what they're going to do.
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They have total freedom about what to
decide to do, but there's an order.
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There's an order that emerges
that gives them a kind of
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an amoeba-like effect,
where they surge and then they play.
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It was kind of
in the nature of an experiment.
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I wanted to see, if no hierarchy
existed at all, what would happen.
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And what did happen?
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They formed a... A kind of a...
A subconscious consensus.
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Out of these kinds of ideas
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came what was called
the Californian ideology.
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It was an odd fusion of
radical individualism
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and utopian theories
about computer systems,
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and an international priesthood
rose up to promote it.
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What united them was was a vision
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that the world
was now one interconnected system,
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that nation states were irrelevant
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and politicians should not
try and control the system,
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they should let it free
to create a new kind of democracy.
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All the mechanisms
that we are creating
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are connecting everything
to everything else.
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They let the individual
do their thing.
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The internet, as it spreads,
is going to
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radically accelerate that process of
network formation -
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a different kind of
global governance.
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Really, the fundamental evolution
of the global system
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in the post-Cold War era.
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And people, as consumers,
have moved into the 21st century -
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new citizens, networkers
who'll reshape the world.
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You have citizens forming
networks, global, you know, the planetary consciousness.
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They are absolutely liberating
for the individual.
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The power has shifted
to the citizens,
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and the government
must be a facilitator.
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They should not, in the traditional
sense, control and regulate.
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But at this very moment,
a new President of the United States
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was elected
who believed the opposite.
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He was convinced that
he could use political power
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in its traditional way, to
transform the world for the better.
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You have to realise
that Alan Greenspan
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was and is a brilliant mind, doing
brilliant things in the real world,
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but in his twenties, he's sitting
with me in New York in our apartment,
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in my apartment, and telling me
that he cannot say for a certainty
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that he exists, and he cannot say for
a certainty that I, Nathaniel, exist.
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And he cannot say for a certainty
that this conversation exists.
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That aside, he's got lots of opinions
about everything, how the economy works, how the world works,
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but he denies the possibility
of being certain about anything.
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Even, and this, of course,
is reductio ad absurdum,
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even he cannot be certain
that he exists.
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So my challenge became
to persuade him
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that he can be certain
that he exists.
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Alan Greenspan
believed in a philosophy called logical positivism.
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It was an extreme form
of rationality that questioned everything
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and used logic
to reach absurd conclusions.
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To try and save him from this,
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Nathaniel Branden
introduced Greenspan to Ayn Rand.
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Branden and his wife Barbara
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were the leaders of the small group
that had formed around Ayn Rand.
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They jokingly called themselves
the Collective,
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and they met in Rand's apartment
every Saturday night
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to read the latest section of
the novel that she was writing, called Atlas Shrugged.
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Nathaniel liked him,
Ayn did not like him at all.
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Nathaniel did,
and began discussing ideas with him.
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And every Saturday night,
the Collective gathered to read what Ayn had written,
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to read in manuscript what Ayn had
written of Atlas Shrugged that week,
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and finally Nathaniel persuaded Ayn
to include Alan in that.
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And he loved the book, and he was...
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He became a loyal member
of the Collective.
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Atlas Shrugged is set in
a science-fiction world,
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but one which is very similar
to 1950s America.
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In it, Ayn Rand attacks head-on
the idea of altruism,
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the care of others, as an
organising principle for society.
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In the story, the government
and the state control everything.
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But one by one, the creative
individuals in America -
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the industrialists,
the inventors and the artists -
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are all mysteriously disappearing.
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They have gone on strike,
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and they hide out
in a remote mountain valley as America falls apart.
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At the end of the book,
they reappear,
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and set out to build Rand's vision
of the world to come,
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a world in which politics
has disappeared
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and is based instead on what she
called "the virtues of selfishness."
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The critics hated it.
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And let me start by
quoting from a review
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of this novel, Atlas Shrugged,
that appeared in Newsweek.
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It said that you are out to destroy
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almost every edifice in the
contemporary American way of life -
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our Judeo-Christian religion,
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our modified
government-regulated capitalism,
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our rule by the majority will.
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Are these accurate criticisms?
Er, yes.
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I'm challenging
the moral code of altruism,
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the precept that man's moral duty
is to live for others,
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that man must sacrifice himself
to others.
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I say that man is entitled
to his own happiness,
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and that he must achieve it himself,
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and nor should he wish to sacrifice
himself for the happiness of others.
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I hold that man
should have self-esteem.
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'Atlas Shrugged was the great
disappointment of her life.'
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What hurt her terribly
was that when it came out,
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not a single person
whom she considered a peer
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stood up publicly
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to say what an achievement
that book was.
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Not one. Nobody.
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Vicious, horrible criticisms.
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She felt very alienated,
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and this small group around her,
the Collective,
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were the only people
she had admitted to, in effect, her private world,
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the world that
she wasn't alienated from.
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Alan Greenspan remained
fiercely loyal to Ayn Rand.
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He married another member
of the Collective, a painter called Joan Mitchell.
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Together, they and the other
members of the group saw themselves
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as models for a new kind of world
that they were convinced was coming.
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We thought of ourselves
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as being instigators of
a revolution that was coming,
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and, uh...
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we were so enthusiastic about what
a difference it was going to make
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to the world, and we were there,
and we were in on it,
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and we hoped we were contributing,
even, to it.
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And what would that revolution
lead to?
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Oh, totally free society.
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At the end of 1992, Alan Greenspan
went to see President Clinton.
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It was a few days after
Clinton had been elected,
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and what Greenspan said
in that conversation
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was the beginning of a revolution.
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By now, Greenspan was
the head of the US Federal Reserve,
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and what he told Clinton
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was that his election promises
of social reform were impossible.
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The government deficit was so large,
Greenspan said,
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that if he borrowed any more
to pay for his political programme,
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then interest rates would go up
and damage growth.
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But, Greenspan said,
there was a radical alternative.
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Clinton should do the very opposite.
Cut government spending,
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then interest rates would go down
and the markets would boom.
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Greenspan's idea was simple.
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Clinton should let the markets
transform America, not politics.
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He said later that he was surprised
that Clinton agreed with him.
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I had hoped to invest in your future
without asking more of you,
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and I worked harder than I've ever
worked in my life to meet that goal.
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But I can't, because the deficit
has increased so much.
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There will be many more budget cuts.
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This is the beginning, not the end.
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The house has already embarked
on that course. There will be more.
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If our national debt were
stacked in thousand dollar bills,
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the stack would
reach 267 miles into space.
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As Greenspan had predicted,
a boom began.
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And as share prices rose higher
and higher, a belief started to grow
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that this time,
the boom would be different.
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It wouldn't run out of control.
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And the reason was the computers.
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The computers allowed the banks to
create complex mathematical models
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that could predict the risk of
making any loan or investment.
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This had enormous implications,
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because if a risk
could be predicted,
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then it could be balanced
by hedging against it.
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For the banks and the hedge funds,
this was like a new world.
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For, in the chaos and
the volatility of the markets,
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the computers had -
for the first time ever - created stability.
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It allowed banks to lend money
to millions of people
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they would never
have touched in the past.
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At the same time, the internet
and other computer networks
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allowed businesses to respond to
each others' needs instantaneously -
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and to the consumers' desires.
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It was the cybernetic feedback
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predicted by the Californian
ideologists.
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And a belief arose
that America had now entered into a new age of stability.
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It was called the New Economy.
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Whether they came from Silicon Valley
or from Washington,
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from academia or from Wall Street,
there were a number of
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leading individuals who basically
articulated a body of thought
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now known fondly as
"the New Economy".
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It was based on the premise of
a dramatic and permanent increase
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in the rate of productivity growth,
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sparked by new information
technologies that would let this thing go on forever.
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'This is manna from heaven -
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'this is the candy
that politicians only dream of.
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'You don't have to do anything - '
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you just push a button and presto!
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You've got a brand new economy
that creates jobs and prosperity.
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It's the rising tide
that lifts any and all boats,
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even if there's no water
in the ocean.
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But Alan Greenspan was worried.
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Every morning in his bath,
he read page after page of data
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about what was really
happening in the factories and businesses of America.
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What puzzled him was that
the figures showed that, actually,
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there was hardly any increase
in productivity,
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yet reported profits
kept on going up.
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There was something wrong.
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And in 1996, Greenspan
made a speech that warned that the market might be overvalued.
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That a dangerous speculative
bubble was being created.
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Early December of 1996,
Alan Greenspan warned
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that the US stock market
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may be in a period of
irrational exuberance,
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and you would have thought
the world had come to an end.
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Politicians attacked him
from the left, from the right,
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mainstream was upset with him,
Wall Street was upset with him.
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And at that point, there was
a very unfortunate turn of events,
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because he knuckled under
to political pressure.
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He changed his mind.
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Greenspan decided he was wrong.
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That the computers were increasing
productivity in ways that were so new his data couldn't see it.
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And he went to see President Clinton
to tell him the good news.
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It really was a New Economy.
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Greenspan described it to Clinton
as like discovering a new planet.
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There's a monkey on my back
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Makes me talk like that
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There's a monkey on my back
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Makes me talk like that
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There's a monkey on my back
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Makes me act like that
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There's a monkey on my back
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Makes me talk like that... #
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(MUSIC DROWNS SPEECH)
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The boom continued,
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and Time magazine described
how a sense of lethargy
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and quietness
came over the White House.
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It was as if the President
didn't have anything to do.
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There's a monkey on my back
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Makes me act like that
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There's a monkey on my back
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Makes me act like that
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There's a monkey on my back... #
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This was a woman who was very
powerful in a great many ways,
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who was mentally more powerful
than anyone she met,
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who was more determined,
who was more hardworking
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than anyone she met.
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What she would have loved
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would be to find a man
who was stronger than she.
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She would have loved to meet
someone who was smarter than she,
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braver than she, a greater genius.
She never met him.
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But she longed for him
all her life.
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And I think this accounts for
her sexual psychology.
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In the 1940s, Ayn Rand had married
an actor called Frank O'Connor.
404
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But now, faced with
the hostility to her ideas,
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Rand turned to the leading member of
the collective, Nathaniel Branden.
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She told him that she had
fallen in love with him,
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and, despite the fact
that he was married to Barbara -
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another member of the collective -
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Rand told him that
the only rational course
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was for Nathaniel
to have an affair with her.
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Ov...I don't think...
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I must be failing to make
a certain point clear to you, sir.
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Ayn Rand thought that
she was being rational
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about anything or everything
that she did.
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So it would never occur to me to ask,
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"Did Ayn Rand think she was being
rational about that?"
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She would say, if she were here,
I can feel her,
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she would say, "Why, yes,
do you think I would do something
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"if I didn't think it was rational?"
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In your book, you talk about love
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as if it were
a business deal of some kind.
422
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Isn't the essence of love
that it is above self-interest?
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In love, the currency is virtue.
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You love people not for
what you do to or for them,
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or what they do for you.
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You love them for their values,
their virtues,
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which they have achieved
in their own character.
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You don't love causelessly.
429
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You don't love everybody
indiscriminately.
430
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You love only those who deserve it.
431
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And then if a man is weak,
or a woman is weak,
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then she, he is beyond love?
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He certainly does not deserve it.
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She was attempting to portray it,
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that affair between them,
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as totally rationally justified.
437
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She said it was nobody's business,
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and we were sworn to
absolute secrecy,
439
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but she said since they were
such unusual people,
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it was inevitable that they feel
what they felt -
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that there could be
no objection to an affair.
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I also felt... I was very aware
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of how little Ayn Rand had
had in her life from the outside,
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from other people.
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And I thought, OK,
if I could press a button,
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and make Ayn romantically happy,
447
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would I do it?
And I thought, yes, I would.
448
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That's altruism. >
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I know. I know.
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It was. I'm not proud of saying yes,
but I said yes.
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Well, this is the second floor.
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And this is one of my favourite
parts of the house.
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This is a beautiful,
central corridor up here.
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Must be a bear keeping
this carpet clean, huh?
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Well, the main things that...
(VOICE FADES)
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LEONARD COHEN:
..You can spend the night beside her
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And you know that she's half crazy
458
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But that's why you
want to be there
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And she feeds you tea and oranges
460
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That come all the way from China
461
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And just when you mean to tell her
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That you have no love to give her
463
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Then she gets you on her wavelength
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And she lets the river answer
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That you've always been her lover
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And you want to travel with her
467
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And you want to travel blind
468
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And you know she will trust you
469
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For you've touched her perfect body
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With your mind... #
471
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:15,640
'First time I ever
looked into his eyes,
472
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'I saw somebody totally different
than I had expected to see.
473
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'And that's the person
I fell in love with.'
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And you want to travel with him
475
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And you want to travel blind
476
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And you think
maybe you'll trust him
477
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:38,680
For he's touched your perfect body
with his mind. #
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By 1997, the American boom
was reshaping the whole world.
479
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Economists and bankers
who saw the world as one giant economic system
480
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now dominated
the American government.
481
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They believed that the way
to achieve global economic stability
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was for nations
to open themselves up
483
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,400
to the free flow of capital.
484
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:17,000
And the laboratory that they had
created for this experiment
485
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:18,240
was South East Asia.
486
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:25,800
Under American pressure,
487
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,160
countries like
South Korea and Thailand
488
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,800
had given up all restrictions
and Western capital flooded in.
489
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:35,120
It helped fuel what was called
"The Asian Miracle".
490
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:39,680
But a group within the White House
were worried that
491
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,120
much of the Western money
was going to fund
492
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,960
a giant speculative bubble
in property.
493
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:49,720
And when the boom collapsed,
the money would flee,
494
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:53,440
leaving the countries like Thailand
and South Korea decimated.
495
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:59,400
The group were led by the economist
Joseph Stiglitz.
496
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,240
The Council of Economic Advisers
was very worried
497
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:08,240
about these short-term
speculative capital flows
498
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:13,000
because while the countries benefit
a little bit when the money comes in,
499
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,600
when the money goes out,
the countries are devastated.
500
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,280
So, it was not
in the interest of Korea.
501
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,080
And it was not in the interest
of the US.
502
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:26,640
It was in the interest of
a very small group of people
503
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:31,880
who make their money from
these short-term capital flows.
504
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,040
Bankers, and hedge funds.
505
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,920
It was a very small group
in whose interest it was.
506
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:42,400
The Council of Economic Advisors
decided to warn the President.
507
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:46,560
They wanted to persuade him to
stop some of the more excessive
508
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,880
short-term speculation
in the Asian countries.
509
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:53,200
But they came face to face
510
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,320
with the Secretary of the Treasury,
Robert Rubin.
511
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:59,880
Rubin had previously
run Goldman Sachs and under his leadership
512
00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:04,080
the bank had created
many of the computer models that underpinned the boom.
513
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:10,440
Rubin had a revolutionary vision
of a world system
514
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,040
completely open to the free flow
of capital.
515
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:17,000
Joseph Stiglitz, who headed
the Council of Economic Advisers,
516
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:18,840
was convinced that the Treasury
517
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:22,680
was stopping the warnings
reaching the President.
518
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:26,560
He believed that Rubin and
the Treasury had effectively become
519
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:30,320
agents of the financial world
embedded in the heart of government.
520
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:35,040
Treasury had close connections
with the financial markets.
521
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:36,920
The Secretary of the Treasury
522
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,680
had come from
the largest investment bank,
523
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,880
and went afterwards into
the largest commercial bank.
524
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:48,920
These are the people with whom
the US Treasury naturally interacts.
525
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:54,400
To Wall Street, we were threatening
a bursting of the bubble.
526
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,160
To Wall Street,
we were threatening their profits.
527
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,200
The Treasury worked extremely hard
528
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:03,840
to make sure the President
never got to consider the issues.
529
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:08,560
Making sure that perspectives of
the Council of Economic Advisors...
530
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:12,520
Which was you?
Yes. ..Never reached the president.
531
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:16,400
So they kept your arguments from
the President? Effectively, yes.
532
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,520
What some people
were beginning to see
533
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:27,360
was that the computer networks
and the global systems
534
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,240
that they had created
hadn't distributed power.
535
00:34:30,240 --> 00:34:32,160
They had just shifted it,
536
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:35,640
and, if anything,
concentrated it in new forms.
537
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,840
And some of the computer utopians
from Silicon Valley
538
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,800
were also beginning to realise
that the World Wide Web
539
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:47,960
was not a new kind of democracy,
but something far more complicated
540
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:53,600
where power was exercised
over the individual in new and surprising ways.
541
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:57,040
Carmen Hermosillo had been
one of the earliest believers
542
00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:00,400
in the new communities
of cyberspace.
543
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:06,200
Her online name was Humdog
and she lived on the West Coast.
544
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:09,640
But then she lost faith,
and she posted an attack
545
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,120
which caused a sensation online.
546
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,520
"It is fashionable to suggest",
she wrote,
547
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,160
"that cyberspace is some island
of the blessed
548
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:21,280
"where people are free to indulge
and express their individuality.
549
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:27,120
"This is not true. I have seen many
people spill out their emotions,
550
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:31,040
"their guts online,
and I did so myself,
551
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:34,200
"until I began to see that
I had commodified myself.
552
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:39,400
"Commodification means that
you turn something into a product
553
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,080
"which has a money value.
554
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:44,920
"In the 19th century,
commodities were made in factories
555
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:49,280
"by workers
who were mostly exploited.
556
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:53,000
"But I created my interior thoughts
as commodities for the corporations
557
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:59,160
"that owned the board I was
posting to, like CompuServe or AOL,
558
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,160
"and that commodity
was then sold on
559
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:04,520
"to other consumer entities
as entertainment."
560
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:13,120
"Cyberspace", she wrote,
"is a black hole.
561
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,480
"It absorbs energy and personality
562
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:19,280
"and then re-presents
it as an emotional spectacle.
563
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,360
"It is done by businesses
564
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:25,320
"that commodify human interaction
and emotion.
565
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,080
"And we are getting lost
in the spectacle."
566
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:36,600
She wore blue velvet
567
00:36:38,240 --> 00:36:42,760
Bluer than velvet
was the night... #
568
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:51,480
'The navy blue dress. My cousin
is a genetic whatchamacallit.
569
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:57,680
'He said if she has preserved
a pinprick size of crusted semen,
570
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,160
'they can match the DNA.'
571
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:03,960
In 1997, Bill Clinton
572
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:07,680
made it clear to Monica Lewinsky
that their love affair was over.
573
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:11,920
Hurt and bewildered,
Lewinsky poured out her feelings
574
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:15,080
to her colleague Linda Tripp -
who had become her friend.
575
00:37:17,240 --> 00:37:20,160
But in September of that year,
Linda Tripp
576
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:23,440
secretly began to
record their phone conversations.
577
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,600
At the very same time,
on the other side of the world,
578
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:30,280
the property bubble
in South East Asia finally burst.
579
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:35,840
Two enormous crises
were about to engulf the world.
580
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:39,680
One would strip the last remnants
of power from Bill Clinton.
581
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:43,080
The other would bring the global
economic system to its knees.
582
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:47,080
The dream of a stable world
was about to be assaulted
583
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:51,120
by the two uncontrollable forces
of love and power.
584
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,080
The Asian crisis began in Thailand.
585
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:04,040
Hundreds of thousands of offices
and apartments had been built.
586
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,200
But no-one wanted them.
587
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:09,560
As the developers went bust
and defaulted on their loans,
588
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:11,120
Western investors panicked
589
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,800
and rushed to take their money
out of the country.
590
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:17,720
The panic began to spread,
first to South Korea.
591
00:38:17,720 --> 00:38:20,680
Housewives queued
to give their spare dollars
592
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,520
to the government
to rescue the country.
593
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:25,600
But it wasn't enough.
594
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:29,200
Teams from the IMF flew in
595
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,720
and they offered billions
of dollars in loans
596
00:38:31,720 --> 00:38:34,720
to stabilise the economies.
But there was a price.
597
00:38:34,720 --> 00:38:38,400
The IMF said that the reason
the crisis had happened
598
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:42,200
was because the Asian economies
weren't Western enough.
599
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:43,480
In return for the loans,
600
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,960
they would have to turn themselves
into models of the free market.
601
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:50,160
This meant cutting
government spending
602
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:54,320
and getting rid of corruption
and nepotism in the ruling elites.
603
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,800
CHANTING
604
00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:00,360
Then the crisis got worse.
It spread to Indonesia.
605
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:05,400
Indonesia was ruled by
President Suharto.
606
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:09,720
He was an autocrat surrounded
by a corrupt clique of advisers and family members.
607
00:39:09,720 --> 00:39:12,360
He refused to do
what the IMF wanted.
608
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:20,000
So the IMF turned to
the US Secretary of the Treasury, Robert Rubin.
609
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:24,720
Our objective was not to reform
the country for the sake of reform.
610
00:39:24,720 --> 00:39:28,400
The problem the international
community faced was that both
611
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,280
the international markets
612
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:36,880
and the domestic holders of capital
were very quickly losing confidence
613
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,960
in the Indonesian regime.
614
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:43,080
By that time, it was our view
615
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:47,640
that if President Suharto was
going to re-establish confidence,
616
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:49,280
he had to deal with corruption.
617
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,520
That was something
he was unwilling to do.
618
00:39:53,720 --> 00:39:55,880
Robert Rubin and the US Treasury
619
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:59,360
were determined to force Suharto
to their will.
620
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,440
In an atmosphere of growing panic
in Washington,
621
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:06,160
Rubin's team began to argue
that the overthrow of Suharto
622
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,200
might be the only way
to solve the crisis.
623
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:11,800
President Clinton
was now increasingly enmeshed
624
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,400
in the crisis over Monica Lewinsky,
625
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:18,320
and enormous political power
was passing to Rubin
626
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,760
and his Treasury team.
627
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:22,840
They, and not the State Department,
628
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:27,160
were now running
America's foreign policy.
629
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:30,280
And everything was judged by
whether it was a threat
630
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:32,560
to the global economic system.
631
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:37,280
There is no question that
the Treasury Secretary,
632
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:41,360
in this case, me, got involved
in sensitive issues
633
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:45,120
that went way beyond
what Treasury Secretaries ordinarily got involved in.
634
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:48,600
But the reason was that
there was real risk
635
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:52,280
that if Indonesia had chaos,
political chaos I'm talking about,
636
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:57,360
that could spread, threatening
the interest of the global economy.
637
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:04,440
In January 1998, Suharto gave in
and signed the IMF agreement,
638
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:08,880
watched over by the head of the IMF,
Michel Camdessus.
639
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:14,040
Indonesia received a massive loan
to stabilise the economy.
640
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:17,680
For a moment it worked. But then
the strangest thing happened.
641
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:21,440
Indonesian's currency has collapsed,
losing 80% of its value
642
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,160
and the economy is in ruins.
643
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:26,520
With riots and looting
breaking out across the country,
644
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:29,800
there are fears that
it's now on the brink of anarchy.
645
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,840
Indonesia's exchange rate
crashed disastrously
646
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,280
and the economy went into freefall.
647
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:39,080
But Indonesia was not alone.
648
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:41,640
In every country
that the IMF bailed out,
649
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:43,720
like Thailand and South Korea,
650
00:41:43,720 --> 00:41:46,280
for a moment there was stability,
651
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,240
and then the exchange rate
collapsed.
652
00:41:48,240 --> 00:41:52,880
Rubin's critics in
the White House began to argue
653
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:56,040
that there was another agenda
also at work in the bail-outs -
654
00:41:56,040 --> 00:42:00,120
that part of their real function
was to rescue the western investors,
655
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:03,800
not the countries.
656
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:08,200
Billions of dollars were paid
into the Asian banks by the IMF,
657
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:11,600
but many of those same dollars
were immediately used
658
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:13,480
to pay off western investors
659
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:16,760
who wanted to get their money
out of the country.
660
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:20,560
And once that had happened,
the economy crashed.
661
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:24,280
It was another illustration
that the interest
662
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,880
of the financial community
663
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,440
dominated over other interests.
664
00:42:32,240 --> 00:42:35,080
By providing mega-billion-dollar
loans,
665
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:38,120
the IMF was bailing out
the Western investors
666
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:43,440
and leaving the taxpayers
in the countries further in debt,
667
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,000
because they had to repay the IMF.
668
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:49,240
The effect of the cuts was
devastating throughout the region.
669
00:42:49,240 --> 00:42:53,000
In Indonesia,
government subsidies were removed,
670
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,880
as instructed by
the Western bankers.
671
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,560
Prices soared, and within months,
672
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:00,680
in a country of 200 million people,
673
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:04,600
15% of the male workforce
lost their jobs.
674
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:09,680
Economic output fell by 14%.
675
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:14,360
As Robert Rubin had wanted,
Suharto was forced from power,
676
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:17,000
but at a very high price.
677
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:18,760
The economy now lay in ruins
678
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:22,520
and ethnic and religious strife
began.
679
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:26,320
The same thing happened
in Thailand and South Korea.
680
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:30,320
Millions and millions of people
fell back into the poverty
681
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:34,960
that they thought
they had escaped forever.
682
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:38,200
By the middle of 1998,
the Asian economies had collapsed.
683
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:41,360
It was the most catastrophic
economic disaster
684
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:45,480
suffered by any countries
since the depression of the 1930s.
685
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,040
Many people cannot have the money,
686
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:53,880
don't have the money.
687
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:55,800
Millions of people are unemployed.
688
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:57,560
They don't have jobs, education.
689
00:43:57,560 --> 00:43:59,560
Education and hospitals
are expensive.
690
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:01,920
Everything's expensive
for the common people.
691
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:12,400
If Monica Lewinsky says that while
you were in the Oval Office area,
692
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,240
you touched her breast,
would she be lying?
693
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:22,160
Bill Clinton had become President
with the vision
694
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:25,840
of using political power
to transform America.
695
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:28,480
But he had been persuaded
to give away that power
696
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:30,000
to the financial markets,
697
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:31,920
with the promise that this time
698
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,400
they would create
a new kind of stability,
699
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,640
a new kind of democracy,
700
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:40,800
free of the corruption
of elite politics.
701
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,960
But it was now becoming clear
that in reality,
702
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:47,680
America's political power had just
been transferred to another elite -
703
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:51,560
the financiers and Wall Street.
704
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:53,040
And when faced by a crisis,
705
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:56,120
they had simply used that power
to rescue themselves.
706
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:01,000
In the process, far
from creating stability,
707
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:04,200
their actions were
leading to a chaotic
708
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:06,560
and far more unstable world.
709
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:08,520
To the leaders of
the Asian countries,
710
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:11,040
this was just as much
a corruption of power
711
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,920
as anything their governments
were guilty of.
712
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:18,480
Power corrupts.
713
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:21,920
As much as government
can become corrupt
714
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,880
when invested with absolute power,
715
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:27,600
markets also can become corrupt
716
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:31,000
when equally absolutely powerful.
717
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:35,840
We are seeing the effect
of that absolute power today.
718
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:39,960
The impoverishment and misery
of millions of people
719
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,040
and their eventual slavery.
720
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:45,440
What did you tell your
cabinet, Mr President?
721
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:47,760
Ask him.
Are you considering...?
722
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,320
Do you think it went well?
723
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:53,560
Are you considering resignation,
Mr President?
724
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:57,680
OK, I don't know
if you saw that.
725
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:00,920
Did you see that look on his face?
Great, great.
726
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:02,440
Come in.
727
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:11,520
I love you, Rourke.
728
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:15,680
Would it please you to hear
that I've lived in torture all these months,
729
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:17,720
hoping never to find you again
730
00:46:17,720 --> 00:46:20,760
and wishing to give my life
just to see once more?
731
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:22,920
But you knew that, of course.
732
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,040
That's what you wanted me
to live through.
733
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:26,920
Yes.
734
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,600
Why don't you laugh
at me now? You won.
735
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:31,600
I've no pride left to stop me.
736
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:35,160
I love you without dignity,
without regret.
737
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:37,000
I came to tell you this
738
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:39,560
and to tell you that
you'll never see me again.
739
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:42,600
By now, I've had
a lot of time to think.
740
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:44,640
I'm four, five years older
741
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:49,120
and I realise I've made
a terrible, terrible mistake.
742
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:53,360
But the trouble is, I've become
very, very important to Ayn.
743
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:55,600
She tells me,
"You are my lifeline to reality.
744
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:58,080
"I don't know how I would
have survived without you.
745
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:00,440
"You started the
Nathanial Brandon Institute."
746
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:03,800
That's how the philosophical
movement of Ayn Rand got launched,
747
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,680
was by this institute I created.
748
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:09,800
So my idol is telling me every day...
749
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:13,560
..I'm her lifeline to reality.
750
00:47:18,720 --> 00:47:21,040
I don't know what to do.
I didn't know what to do.
751
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:22,680
And then...
752
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:28,360
..a young woman comes to
my lectures and I meet her
753
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:32,640
and I fall in love with her.
754
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:35,200
And now the situation
has got even worse.
755
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:55,920
She then launched into
a tirade against him
756
00:47:55,920 --> 00:48:00,160
that was so shocking,
757
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:04,040
accusing him of utter irrationality,
758
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:07,800
of betraying objectivism,
betraying her.
759
00:48:10,240 --> 00:48:12,920
It went on and on indefinitely.
760
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:17,000
And it ended with her saying...
761
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:23,280
.."If he had an ounce
of morality left,
762
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:27,000
"he would be impotent
for the next 10 years."
763
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:30,520
And then slapped him
across the face three times
764
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:32,000
and said "Get out."
765
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:36,200
He got out.
766
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:37,760
And that was the end.
767
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:43,840
And ultimately, it ended
an absolute disaster for everybody.
768
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:49,680
Ayn Rand's anger and despair
769
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:54,360
destroyed the small, perfect world
that she had built around her.
770
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:57,520
The Collective was torn apart
by the revelation of her affair
771
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:01,440
and by her violent
reaction at her betrayal.
772
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:08,160
And by the early 1970s,
Ayn Rand was left almost alone.
773
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:11,480
She still lived in her apartment
by the Empire State Building
774
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:13,440
and she took up stamp collecting.
775
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:19,760
One of the few people who remained
loyal to her was Alan Greenspan,
776
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:22,960
who worked in New York as an
economic consultant to Wall Street.
777
00:49:24,240 --> 00:49:27,680
It's feasible in the way
in which it stays down
778
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:31,120
and does not merely drop
and bounce around
779
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:35,480
and have within it,
in a sense, an unstable future.
780
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:40,800
In 1974, President Ford
made Greenspan the chairman
781
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:45,080
of his Council of Economic
Advisers in Washington.
782
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:48,440
It was the beginning of
Greenspan's rise to power.
783
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,480
Rand was left alone in New York,
784
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:56,160
but she wasn't lonely, she said.
785
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:58,760
In her philosophy,
all you needed was yourself,
786
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:01,560
because you were the world.
787
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:06,600
I kind of think of this
whole thing as ongoing,
788
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:08,160
that there is an eternity,
789
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:10,960
and that we are going
to be a part of that eternity
790
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:14,440
that we aren't just
corpses in graves when we die.
791
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:18,920
But we aren't corpses in graves,
we are not there.
792
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:21,960
Don't you understand that
when this life is finished,
793
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:26,160
you're not there to say, "Oh, how
terrible that I'm a corpse"?
794
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:28,400
No. Well, this is true.
It's finished.
795
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:32,240
And what I've always thought
796
00:50:32,240 --> 00:50:34,720
was a sentence from
some Greek philosopher,
797
00:50:34,720 --> 00:50:37,200
I don't unfortunately
remember who it was.
798
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:40,520
I read it at 16 and
it's affected me all my life.
799
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:44,320
"I will not die.
It's the world that will end."
800
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:46,240
And that's absolutely true.
801
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:02,760
Oh, my God!
802
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:11,520
The attack on the World Trade Center
803
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:15,120
was an assault by political
Islamism on American power,
804
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:18,800
and on what the Islamists believed
was the destructive force
805
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:22,440
that drove that power,
radical individualism.
806
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:28,360
When the World Trade Center
towers collapsed,
807
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:31,000
everyone knew that
everything had changed.
808
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:34,280
But then it didn't.
809
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:37,360
The system returned to normal.
810
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:40,160
And the heroic individual
who did this,
811
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:44,240
and who bent history to his will,
was Alan Greenspan.
812
00:51:44,240 --> 00:51:48,840
And he became the most
powerful man in the world.
813
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:51,640
As we struggle to make
sense of our profound loss
814
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:55,360
and its immediate
consequences for the economy,
815
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:59,360
we must not lose sight
of our longer-run prospects,
816
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:03,960
which have not been significantly
diminished by these terrible events.
817
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:06,720
But it started badly.
818
00:52:06,720 --> 00:52:10,480
A week after the attacks,
the American markets opened again.
819
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:12,520
Dealers waited to see
what would happen.
820
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:15,880
Our heroes will now
open the marketplace.
821
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:17,640
The green button.
822
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:20,080
It was a disaster.
823
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:24,280
Immediately, the market suffered the
largest fall ever in its history.
824
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:31,680
Two weeks later,
the Enron scandal was revealed.
825
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:33,280
And it quickly became clear
826
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:37,480
that it was only one example
of a vast corporate fraud.
827
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:41,400
Since the early '90s, many major
corporations had faked profits
828
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:44,480
and hidden their debts,
829
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:47,280
helped by some of the
major accounting firms.
830
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:51,640
It seemed as if the American
economy might collapse.
831
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:54,480
Greenspan took action.
832
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:57,880
He dramatically cut interest
rates again and again.
833
00:52:57,880 --> 00:52:59,160
His aim was simple,
834
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:02,360
to encourage American consumers
to borrow and spend.
835
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:05,320
They and their desires were
going to be the machine
836
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:07,040
that stabilised the system.
837
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:13,040
Huw, today's rate cut
is the culmination
838
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:16,560
of an extraordinary few
days for central banks.
839
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:18,760
It's all part of a
concerted global effort
840
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:20,560
to bolster consumer confidence
841
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:23,400
and make sure those consumers
carry on spending money
842
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:26,200
because that is what's keeping
economies afloat at the moment.
843
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:30,360
It was an enormous risk.
844
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:32,360
By cutting the rates
to almost zero,
845
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:36,120
Greenspan was unleashing a flood
of cheap money into the economy,
846
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:38,040
and in the past this had always led
847
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:40,480
to inflation and
dangerous instability.
848
00:53:42,240 --> 00:53:44,120
But this time it didn't.
849
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:46,280
A vast consumer boom began,
850
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:49,560
bigger than anything
ever before in history.
851
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:51,400
But there was no inflation.
852
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:53,960
Everything remained stable.
853
00:53:56,720 --> 00:54:00,000
It seemed that the system
could manage itself
854
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:03,600
without direct political control.
855
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:06,240
But it was an illusion.
856
00:54:06,240 --> 00:54:10,800
The reason for the extraordinary
boom was the very opposite.
857
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:14,520
It happened because of a giant
exercise of political power
858
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:19,200
by an elite thousands of miles
away on the other side of the world.
859
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:23,320
HE SPEAKS IN CHINESE
860
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:27,720
The Asian countries, led by China,
861
00:54:27,720 --> 00:54:29,400
had decided that never again
862
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:32,280
would they put themselves
at the mercy
863
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:34,160
of America and its
financial elites,
864
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:36,120
as had happened two years before.
865
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:41,840
So the Chinese Politburo
created a system to manage America.
866
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:47,440
They deliberately held their
currency's exchange rate at a low level.
867
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:50,800
This meant that their
exports were cheap,
868
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:53,600
and Chinese goods
flooded into America.
869
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:56,160
And to pay for them,
870
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:59,480
American dollars flooded into China.
871
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:02,520
But instead of spending
the money on their population,
872
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:06,880
the Chinese leaders immediately
lent the money back to America,
873
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:10,360
by buying government bonds.
874
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:13,360
It was a perfect system of
cheap goods and cheap money
875
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:20,000
flowing into America, all
controlled by the Chinese Politburo.
876
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:24,080
And it was this that
created the stability.
877
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:31,720
From it came an orgy of lending
by the banks to the poorest
878
00:55:31,720 --> 00:55:35,240
and least credit-worthy
borrowers in the US.
879
00:55:35,240 --> 00:55:38,120
It was a mirror image of
what the West had done
880
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:41,400
in East Asia in the 1990s,
881
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:43,680
and just like then,
882
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:46,000
out of it came
a vast property bubble.
883
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:51,080
"It is as if over a trillion
dollars has been recycled"
884
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:55,080
wrote one economist, "to a third
world developing economy
885
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:58,000
"that exists within
America's own borders."
886
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:15,080
The Chinese money had led
America into a dream world,
887
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:19,080
but the reason that so few bankers
and politicians questioned it
888
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:21,280
was because of their
faith in computers.
889
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:26,400
They were convinced
that it was the computers
890
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:29,080
that had brought the
stability to the system.
891
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:33,120
The machines created mathematical
models that parcelled out the loans,
892
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:36,960
and then hedged and balanced
them so that there was no risk.
893
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:49,200
But then, in 2008,
that dream collapsed.
894
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:52,200
Alan Greenspan's
vision of a new planet,
895
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:54,920
and Gordon Brown's promise
of no more boom and bust
896
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:56,920
were revealed to be fantasies
897
00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:59,600
built on a wave
of financial speculation.
898
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:03,600
That speculation had happened
899
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:07,480
because those running the financial
sectors in America and Britain
900
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:11,040
had promised that they could create
a new kind of market democracy
901
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:14,080
that would be stable.
902
00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:17,360
But again and again,
it had led to the opposite,
903
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:20,240
chaos and instability
around the world.
904
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:24,680
And now, finally, that had happened
in the very heart of the west.
905
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:32,520
But yet again, just as in south
east Asia ten years before,
906
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:37,520
those running the financial sector
now mobilised political power
907
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:41,600
to rescue themselves
and protect their supremacy.
908
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:44,000
They asked the politicians
to bail them out,
909
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:46,240
and they agreed.
910
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:51,280
And again, just as
in south east Asia,
911
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:54,680
the price is being paid by the
ordinary people of the countries.
912
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:05,640
And we are now living through
a very strange moment.
913
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:08,600
We know that the idea of
market stability has failed,
914
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:11,880
but we cannot imagine
any alternative.
915
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:16,240
The original promise
of the Californian Ideology
916
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:18,640
was that the computers
would liberate us
917
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:23,040
from all the old forms
of political control
918
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:27,040
and we would become Randian heroes
in control of our own destiny.
919
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:32,120
Instead, today we feel the opposite,
920
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:36,440
that we are helpless components
in a global system,
921
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:39,840
a system that is controlled
by a rigid logic
922
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:43,080
that we are powerless
to challenge or to change.
923
00:59:34,380 --> 00:59:37,900
MUSIC: "Baby Love Child"
by Pizzicato Five
924
00:59:52,580 --> 00:59:54,820
When I see you, my love
925
00:59:54,820 --> 00:59:57,100
I see what's in your mind
926
00:59:57,100 --> 00:59:59,540
You own me, yes you do
927
00:59:59,540 --> 01:00:01,620
You don't need to tell me
928
01:00:01,620 --> 01:00:04,180
I know you love me most
929
01:00:04,180 --> 01:00:06,820
No-one else take my place
930
01:00:06,820 --> 01:00:08,980
You need me, yes you do
931
01:00:08,980 --> 01:00:11,460
For ever and ever
932
01:00:12,780 --> 01:00:14,380
We are in love
933
01:00:14,380 --> 01:00:17,140
Baby love child
934
01:00:17,140 --> 01:00:18,580
I take you so high
935
01:00:18,580 --> 01:00:22,060
Groovy love child
936
01:00:22,060 --> 01:00:23,700
Give me a kiss
937
01:00:23,700 --> 01:00:25,980
Baby love child
938
01:00:25,980 --> 01:00:29,100
Do it again...
939
01:00:32,460 --> 01:00:37,940
In the mass democracies of the West,
a new ideology has risen up.
940
01:00:37,940 --> 01:00:41,940
We have come to believe that
the old hierarchies of power
941
01:00:41,940 --> 01:00:45,300
can be replaced
by self-organising networks.
942
01:00:47,060 --> 01:00:51,020
From internet utopianism,
to the global economic system,
943
01:00:51,020 --> 01:00:54,980
and above all,
the ecosystems of the natural world.
944
01:00:54,980 --> 01:01:00,340
Today we dream of systems that can
balance and stabilise themselves
945
01:01:00,340 --> 01:01:03,300
without the intervention
of authoritarian power.
946
01:01:07,100 --> 01:01:11,420
But in reality,
this is the dream of the machines.
947
01:01:11,420 --> 01:01:14,980
It reflects how they are organised.
948
01:01:14,980 --> 01:01:17,420
It has nothing to do with nature,
949
01:01:17,420 --> 01:01:20,820
and as a model for human society
and for politics,
950
01:01:20,820 --> 01:01:24,980
it is wholly inadequate in the face
of the powerful, dynamic forces
951
01:01:24,980 --> 01:01:27,380
that really dominate
the world today.
952
01:01:29,420 --> 01:01:34,780
This is the story of the rise of the
dream of the self-organising system
953
01:01:34,780 --> 01:01:39,220
and the strange machine fantasy
of nature that underpins it.
954
01:01:39,220 --> 01:01:41,580
CMOL is...
955
01:01:43,420 --> 01:01:47,020
..is a... In a sense
it's a high-level language.
956
01:01:47,020 --> 01:01:51,500
Very, very close to machine language,
time-coded machine language.
957
01:01:51,500 --> 01:01:53,820
VOICE FADES OUT UNDER STATELY MUSIC
958
01:02:03,900 --> 01:02:06,060
At the end of the First World War,
959
01:02:06,060 --> 01:02:10,700
a young biologist called Arthur
Tansley had a frightening dream.
960
01:02:10,700 --> 01:02:13,580
He dreamt he was in
an African village.
961
01:02:13,580 --> 01:02:17,220
The natives
started to come towards him.
962
01:02:17,220 --> 01:02:18,780
Then his wife appeared.
963
01:02:18,780 --> 01:02:23,420
He picked up a rifle, aimed it
at her, and pulled the trigger.
964
01:02:26,060 --> 01:02:29,140
Tansley wanted to know
what the dream meant,
965
01:02:29,140 --> 01:02:33,180
so he started to study
the ideas of Sigmund Freud,
966
01:02:33,180 --> 01:02:35,380
and he became fascinated.
967
01:02:35,380 --> 01:02:40,140
In 1922, he even went to Vienna
to be analysed by Freud himself.
968
01:02:42,540 --> 01:02:44,300
What caught Tansley's imagination
969
01:02:44,300 --> 01:02:47,260
was an obscure part of
Freud's theory
970
01:02:47,260 --> 01:02:51,420
that said the human brain
was actually an electrical machine.
971
01:02:51,420 --> 01:02:56,620
That the sense data that came in
through the eyes and ears
972
01:02:56,620 --> 01:03:00,540
created bursts of energy that flowed
around networks inside the brain,
973
01:03:00,540 --> 01:03:03,300
just like electrical circuits.
974
01:03:05,500 --> 01:03:10,180
Tansley was fascinated by this,
and he made an extraordinary conceptual leap.
975
01:03:10,180 --> 01:03:13,060
He decided that he could take
this model of the mind
976
01:03:13,060 --> 01:03:17,020
and apply it
to the whole of the natural world.
977
01:03:17,020 --> 01:03:22,500
He became convinced that
underneath the complexity of nature were systems,
978
01:03:22,500 --> 01:03:26,940
vast interconnected circuits
that linked all animals and plants,
979
01:03:26,940 --> 01:03:29,300
through which energy flowed.
980
01:03:29,300 --> 01:03:31,500
He invented a name for them.
981
01:03:31,500 --> 01:03:34,260
He called them ecosystems.
982
01:03:35,500 --> 01:03:39,260
Tansley's idea of the mind
was that of a network.
983
01:03:39,260 --> 01:03:42,540
So you have energy going through
tubes into a new explosion,
984
01:03:42,540 --> 01:03:45,540
a new explosion.
What would create this explosion
985
01:03:45,540 --> 01:03:47,220
would be sense perception.
986
01:03:47,220 --> 01:03:51,620
So these energy tubes would go out
in the modern mechanism of the mind,
987
01:03:51,620 --> 01:03:54,500
creating a network,
a system within the mind.
988
01:03:54,500 --> 01:03:58,980
Now this he would transfer,
one-to-one, almost,
989
01:03:58,980 --> 01:04:02,820
into his description
of the natural environment,
990
01:04:02,820 --> 01:04:07,620
in which energy between species
and among the species
991
01:04:07,620 --> 01:04:11,700
would constitute a system,
an ecosystem,
992
01:04:11,700 --> 01:04:15,020
of energy flowing between
these different species.
993
01:04:15,020 --> 01:04:22,060
So the grasshopper eating the grass
will then be energy transforming through the tube
994
01:04:22,060 --> 01:04:27,900
into the dune where the beetle
would do his or her job.
995
01:04:27,900 --> 01:04:29,580
A very mechanical idea.
996
01:04:29,580 --> 01:04:31,580
It's very mechanical indeed.
997
01:04:31,580 --> 01:04:34,620
But Tansley went much further.
998
01:04:34,620 --> 01:04:37,940
He said that if these
ecosystems were disturbed,
999
01:04:37,940 --> 01:04:41,820
they would always try and return to
an original balanced state.
1000
01:04:41,820 --> 01:04:47,260
Which meant that they had
the ability to regulate and stabilise themselves.
1001
01:04:47,260 --> 01:04:53,460
It was part of what Tansley called
The Great Universal Law of Equilibrium.
1002
01:04:53,460 --> 01:04:59,940
All these systems, he wrote,
are constantly tending towards positions of balance or equilibrium.
1003
01:05:01,540 --> 01:05:04,700
The idea that there was an
underlying balance of nature
1004
01:05:04,700 --> 01:05:08,660
went back thousands of years
in Western culture.
1005
01:05:08,660 --> 01:05:12,740
But it had always been a dream,
a vision of a hidden natural order.
1006
01:05:12,740 --> 01:05:17,620
What Tansley was saying was that
this might be scientifically true.
1007
01:05:17,620 --> 01:05:21,020
That from the English countryside
to the jungles of Africa,
1008
01:05:21,020 --> 01:05:26,620
there was an underlying mechanism
that regulated nature as if it were a machine.
1009
01:05:28,020 --> 01:05:30,380
But it was only a hypothesis.
1010
01:05:30,380 --> 01:05:33,940
No-one knew
how the ecosystem worked.
1011
01:05:33,940 --> 01:05:36,660
The answer would not come from
the study of nature
1012
01:05:36,660 --> 01:05:41,580
but from a new kind of machine -
the computer.
1013
01:05:41,580 --> 01:05:46,540
LILTING BAROQUE-STYLE PIANO PLAYS
1014
01:05:50,940 --> 01:05:56,660
Jay Forrester studied electrical
engineering at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology,
1015
01:05:56,660 --> 01:05:59,980
where he became one of the
early innovators in computers.
1016
01:06:00,980 --> 01:06:05,020
And in the 1950s, he built
America's early warning system.
1017
01:06:05,020 --> 01:06:08,180
It was a global network
of radar installations,
1018
01:06:08,180 --> 01:06:12,380
all linked to giant computers
in the United States.
1019
01:06:12,380 --> 01:06:18,420
Its aim was to create
a stable balance in the nuclear stand-off of the Cold War.
1020
01:06:20,420 --> 01:06:25,340
Forrester was convinced that
the whole world, not just nature,
1021
01:06:25,340 --> 01:06:27,340
was composed of systems.
1022
01:06:27,340 --> 01:06:32,420
He believed that by building
his own man-made system, the early warning network,
1023
01:06:32,420 --> 01:06:36,540
he had identified how
all systems stabilised themselves.
1024
01:06:38,700 --> 01:06:42,540
It was through a mechanism
called feedback.
1025
01:06:42,540 --> 01:06:46,300
What Forrester meant by this
was that every action we take
1026
01:06:46,300 --> 01:06:49,420
has consequences
that feed through the system
1027
01:06:49,420 --> 01:06:54,180
and then return to shape our future
behaviour in ways we cannot see.
1028
01:06:55,180 --> 01:06:56,980
But the computers could.
1029
01:06:58,740 --> 01:07:02,860
They had the power to analyse the
true consequences of human actions -
1030
01:07:02,860 --> 01:07:06,380
what Forrester called
feedback loops.
1031
01:07:06,380 --> 01:07:08,260
Most people
1032
01:07:08,260 --> 01:07:09,820
think of action as,
1033
01:07:09,820 --> 01:07:14,100
"Here's a problem,
I'll take action, and I'll solve it."
1034
01:07:14,100 --> 01:07:16,100
Straight line.
1035
01:07:16,100 --> 01:07:18,700
But that's not the system
in which we live.
1036
01:07:18,700 --> 01:07:21,900
There is a problem, we take action,
it may change things,
1037
01:07:21,900 --> 01:07:26,660
it gives us a new environment
for taking the next action and changing things.
1038
01:07:26,660 --> 01:07:30,540
And so we live in these networks
1039
01:07:30,540 --> 01:07:32,820
of feedback loops,
1040
01:07:32,820 --> 01:07:38,420
that are controlling us and
those things that we interact with.
1041
01:07:38,420 --> 01:07:40,300
So we're just part of a system?
1042
01:07:40,300 --> 01:07:41,940
We're just part of a system.
1043
01:07:41,940 --> 01:07:44,180
That is anathema to many people
1044
01:07:44,180 --> 01:07:48,460
because they like to think of us
as people, as independent,
1045
01:07:48,460 --> 01:07:55,300
but basically they are driven
in most of their actions by feedback loops,
1046
01:07:55,300 --> 01:07:59,620
which means physical systems,
electrical systems, social systems,
1047
01:07:59,620 --> 01:08:04,260
political systems, biological
systems, internal medicine, medical systems of the body.
1048
01:08:04,260 --> 01:08:10,500
They are all fundamentally
networks of feedback loops.
1049
01:08:13,780 --> 01:08:19,900
Forrester was one of the leaders of
an ambitious new scientific movement called cybernetics.
1050
01:08:19,900 --> 01:08:22,060
Cybernetics said that everything,
1051
01:08:22,060 --> 01:08:25,740
from human brains to cities
and even entire societies,
1052
01:08:25,740 --> 01:08:29,860
could be seen as systems
regulated and governed by feedback.
1053
01:08:29,860 --> 01:08:34,700
It fascinated both biologists
and physicists
1054
01:08:34,700 --> 01:08:40,140
because it seemed to offer
a new insight into how order is maintained in the world.
1055
01:08:40,140 --> 01:08:43,260
It also had powerful implications
for human beings.
1056
01:08:43,260 --> 01:08:47,740
Because cybernetics
saw human beings not as individuals
1057
01:08:47,740 --> 01:08:52,940
in charge of their own destiny,
but as components in systems.
1058
01:08:52,940 --> 01:08:57,100
At its heart, cybernetics was
a computer's-eye view of the world,
1059
01:08:57,100 --> 01:09:02,500
and from that perspective,
there was no difference between human beings and machines.
1060
01:09:02,500 --> 01:09:05,540
They were just nodes in networks,
1061
01:09:05,540 --> 01:09:09,020
acting and reacting
to flows of information.
1062
01:09:09,020 --> 01:09:13,220
One of the leading cybernetic
theorists called Norbert Wiener
1063
01:09:13,220 --> 01:09:17,940
laid this out clearly in a book that
became the bible of the movement.
1064
01:09:17,940 --> 01:09:23,020
He called it
Control And Communication In The Animal And The Machine.
1065
01:09:24,500 --> 01:09:27,500
If, as Norbert Wiener
and his team decided,
1066
01:09:27,500 --> 01:09:30,740
you can actually
link the behaviour of machines
1067
01:09:30,740 --> 01:09:34,220
and the behaviour of fleshy humans
through mathematical formulae,
1068
01:09:34,220 --> 01:09:38,220
and if you can model and predict
those formulae using computers,
1069
01:09:38,220 --> 01:09:42,620
then you end up in a world where
humans and machines seem to be one.
1070
01:09:42,620 --> 01:09:45,700
They can glimpse the
deep cybernetic truth,
1071
01:09:45,700 --> 01:09:50,140
one in which natural,
mechanical and social systems are seen as one another.
1072
01:09:50,140 --> 01:09:52,860
Humans linked together
in a man-machines system.
1073
01:09:52,860 --> 01:09:58,460
We are all now part of
a universal system linked together by information.
1074
01:09:58,460 --> 01:10:02,860
And cybernetics transformed
the idea of the ecosystem
1075
01:10:02,860 --> 01:10:07,340
because it seemed to explain how
ecosystems stabilised themselves.
1076
01:10:07,340 --> 01:10:09,300
They did it through feedback.
1077
01:10:09,300 --> 01:10:11,500
It would lead ecology to rise up
1078
01:10:11,500 --> 01:10:15,740
and become one of the dominant
sciences of the 20th century.
1079
01:10:21,420 --> 01:10:24,580
The key figures
were two American ecologists.
1080
01:10:24,580 --> 01:10:27,740
They were brothers called
Howard and Eugene Odum.
1081
01:10:27,740 --> 01:10:31,340
Howard Odum took cybernetics
1082
01:10:31,340 --> 01:10:35,540
and used it as a tool to analyse
the underlying structure of nature.
1083
01:10:37,540 --> 01:10:42,340
In the 1950s he travelled the world,
collecting data from ponds in North Carolina,
1084
01:10:42,340 --> 01:10:47,420
to a tropical rainforest
in Guatemala,
1085
01:10:47,420 --> 01:10:49,260
and a coral reef in the Pacific.
1086
01:10:49,260 --> 01:10:54,980
In each case, he reduced
the bewildering complexity of nature to cybernetic networks.
1087
01:10:54,980 --> 01:10:58,700
The ecosystems were drawn out as
electrical circuits
1088
01:10:58,700 --> 01:11:03,900
with feedback loops that showed
how energy flowed round the system
1089
01:11:03,900 --> 01:11:06,660
between all the animals
and the plants.
1090
01:11:08,700 --> 01:11:12,900
Odum even built
real electrical circuits to represent the environments
1091
01:11:12,900 --> 01:11:16,860
and he used them to adjust the
feedback levels in the system.
1092
01:11:16,860 --> 01:11:21,540
Odum really believed that you could
actually make a model of that system
1093
01:11:21,540 --> 01:11:24,580
and monitor and watch
how all the parts were working.
1094
01:11:24,580 --> 01:11:27,500
You could decide
when you had to intervene,
1095
01:11:27,500 --> 01:11:30,980
when it was...when the feedbacks
weren't sufficient,
1096
01:11:30,980 --> 01:11:36,500
so that they come back
to some equilibrium, some stable functioning.
1097
01:11:37,500 --> 01:11:41,060
When I visited him in the middle '80s
1098
01:11:41,060 --> 01:11:43,580
and we started talking about
his own history,
1099
01:11:43,580 --> 01:11:46,500
he went beside his desk
and he pulled out
1100
01:11:46,500 --> 01:11:51,060
one of these electrical
circuit boards from the middle '50s.
1101
01:11:51,060 --> 01:11:55,060
Howard Odum's brother Eugene
then took these ideas,
1102
01:11:55,060 --> 01:11:58,860
and he used them to define
a powerful vision of nature
1103
01:11:58,860 --> 01:12:02,300
that still dominates
our imaginations today.
1104
01:12:02,300 --> 01:12:07,380
He wrote a book called
The Fundamentals Of Ecology that became the Bible of the science.
1105
01:12:07,380 --> 01:12:11,980
It portrayed the whole planet as
a network of interlinked ecosystems.
1106
01:12:11,980 --> 01:12:17,260
And Tansley's machine hypothesis
became a scientific certainty.
1107
01:12:20,700 --> 01:12:22,900
But to make their theory work,
1108
01:12:22,900 --> 01:12:27,780
what the Odum brothers had done
was distort the scientific method.
1109
01:12:27,780 --> 01:12:32,900
They had taken a metaphor, that
the ecosystem worked like a machine.
1110
01:12:32,900 --> 01:12:38,180
But then, instead of looking
at the data they had gathered from the natural world
1111
01:12:38,180 --> 01:12:40,820
and trying to find out
if this was true,
1112
01:12:40,820 --> 01:12:43,300
the Odum brothers did the opposite.
1113
01:12:43,300 --> 01:12:47,020
They simplified the data
to an extraordinary degree.
1114
01:12:47,020 --> 01:12:51,380
They took the complexity and the
variability of the natural world
1115
01:12:51,380 --> 01:12:56,620
and they pared it down
so it would fit with the equations and the circuits they had drawn.
1116
01:12:56,620 --> 01:13:00,060
As they did this,
it stopped being a metaphor
1117
01:13:00,060 --> 01:13:04,620
and became what seemed to be
a scientific description of reality.
1118
01:13:07,460 --> 01:13:09,780
One of Howard Odum's assistants
later wrote
1119
01:13:09,780 --> 01:13:15,460
that what they were really doing
was creating a machine-like fantasy of stability.
1120
01:13:15,460 --> 01:13:18,820
Driven by the desire for prestige,
he said,
1121
01:13:18,820 --> 01:13:21,580
biological reality disappeared.
1122
01:13:21,580 --> 01:13:25,980
Organisms were expected to act
mechanically, in predicable ways.
1123
01:13:25,980 --> 01:13:28,180
Animals became robots,
1124
01:13:28,180 --> 01:13:33,860
and the ideas were never presented
as hypotheses to be tested.
1125
01:13:33,860 --> 01:13:38,900
When I first went into ecology,
we really did believe that nature
1126
01:13:38,900 --> 01:13:43,180
had to have a fixed stability,
it had to be stable.
1127
01:13:43,180 --> 01:13:44,820
That's what we were taught,
1128
01:13:44,820 --> 01:13:49,140
the miraculous thing about nature was
it was stable against all these problems.
1129
01:13:49,140 --> 01:13:51,980
So we believed
there was a balance of nature.
1130
01:13:54,380 --> 01:13:57,540
The balance of nature idea
comes from two things.
1131
01:13:57,540 --> 01:14:01,660
Ancient Western mythology
and religious beliefs,
1132
01:14:01,660 --> 01:14:04,100
and also from the machine age.
1133
01:14:04,100 --> 01:14:08,580
The actual mathematics that came out
of it was mathematics of machinery.
1134
01:14:10,220 --> 01:14:13,700
Nature should have that
same kind of mechanical steady state,
1135
01:14:13,700 --> 01:14:17,180
which would fit in with
this balance of nature idea,
1136
01:14:17,180 --> 01:14:22,580
that if you left nature alone,
it would run like a perfectly-oiled piston engine.
1137
01:14:24,100 --> 01:14:30,820
This fusion of cybernetics and
ecology was going to lead to far more than just a new idea of nature,
1138
01:14:30,820 --> 01:14:36,460
for out of it was about to come
a new organising principle for human society as well.
1139
01:14:40,980 --> 01:14:43,780
It would be a vision
of a new kind of world,
1140
01:14:43,780 --> 01:14:49,500
one without the authoritarian
exercise of power, and the old political hierarchies.
1141
01:14:49,500 --> 01:14:52,500
A vision that was different
from past ideologies,
1142
01:14:52,500 --> 01:14:56,700
because it mirrored
how order was created in nature.
1143
01:15:01,700 --> 01:15:04,380
The man behind it
was a utopian visionary
1144
01:15:04,380 --> 01:15:07,580
who had worked as an engineer
in the US military.
1145
01:15:07,580 --> 01:15:10,260
He was called Buckminster Fuller.
1146
01:15:10,260 --> 01:15:12,740
"I will make my life an experiment,"
he said,
1147
01:15:12,740 --> 01:15:16,340
"to search for the principles
that govern the universe."
1148
01:15:16,340 --> 01:15:19,740
Fuller had invented
a radically new kind of structure
1149
01:15:19,740 --> 01:15:23,620
that was based on the underlying
system of order in nature.
1150
01:15:23,620 --> 01:15:26,020
It was called a geodesic dome.
1151
01:15:26,020 --> 01:15:28,740
It was very simple
but incredibly strong.
1152
01:15:29,820 --> 01:15:33,900
Giant geodesic domes were built
to house the radar installations
1153
01:15:33,900 --> 01:15:36,780
for America's early warning system
in the Arctic.
1154
01:15:38,780 --> 01:15:42,980
These are what we call
geodesic radons.
1155
01:15:42,980 --> 01:15:48,220
They are designed to protect very
powerful and important apparatus
1156
01:15:48,220 --> 01:15:50,780
from the great storms of nature.
1157
01:15:50,780 --> 01:15:54,660
We think of structures
as being something very powerful,
1158
01:15:54,660 --> 01:15:56,660
but these are very delicate.
1159
01:15:56,660 --> 01:15:59,820
Yet they've been through about
10 years
1160
01:15:59,820 --> 01:16:03,660
of the most formidable conditions
in the Arctic
1161
01:16:03,660 --> 01:16:06,860
that any structures
have ever had to stand.
1162
01:16:08,420 --> 01:16:12,380
But I'm not a...a dome salesman,
1163
01:16:12,380 --> 01:16:16,220
I'm an explorer in structures.
1164
01:16:16,220 --> 01:16:22,660
I'm interested in the
fundamental principles by which nature holds her shapes together.
1165
01:16:22,660 --> 01:16:26,780
Fuller's geodesic domes
imitated the idea of the ecosystem.
1166
01:16:26,780 --> 01:16:29,100
Each tiny strut was weak,
1167
01:16:29,100 --> 01:16:32,940
but when thousands were joined
to form a giant interconnecting web,
1168
01:16:32,940 --> 01:16:34,660
they became strong and stable.
1169
01:16:35,780 --> 01:16:40,020
Fuller believed that this principle
of copying nature could be applied
1170
01:16:40,020 --> 01:16:44,740
not just to structures,
but to creating new systems to manage societies.
1171
01:16:47,060 --> 01:16:52,260
But in order to do this,
Fuller realised that there would have to be a conceptual shift
1172
01:16:52,260 --> 01:16:55,980
in the way human beings
saw their position in the world.
1173
01:16:55,980 --> 01:17:01,700
Instead of seeing themselves
as members of nations or classes or hierarchies of power,
1174
01:17:01,700 --> 01:17:07,740
people should instead see themselves
as equal members of a global system.
1175
01:17:10,260 --> 01:17:13,940
To persuade them, Fuller
used the image of the spacecraft
1176
01:17:13,940 --> 01:17:18,060
that NASA had built
to take Americans to the moon.
1177
01:17:18,060 --> 01:17:20,140
NASA had employed ecologists
1178
01:17:20,140 --> 01:17:24,860
to help design a closed system
for the astronauts inside the cabin.
1179
01:17:26,220 --> 01:17:30,620
It was constantly monitored
by computers to keep it in perfect balance.
1180
01:17:32,140 --> 01:17:35,220
And in 1964, Fuller wrote a
manifesto
1181
01:17:35,220 --> 01:17:39,420
called The Operating Manual
For Spaceship Earth.
1182
01:17:39,420 --> 01:17:43,940
It said that the world should be
seen as one giant spaceship
1183
01:17:43,940 --> 01:17:48,140
and that all human beings should
try and manage that global system
1184
01:17:48,140 --> 01:17:51,700
so it was kept in a perfect balance,
1185
01:17:51,700 --> 01:17:55,340
just like the tiny cabin
of the spacecraft.
1186
01:17:55,340 --> 01:17:57,180
He would say in his lectures, like,
1187
01:17:57,180 --> 01:18:01,460
"You guys wonder what it's like to be
an astronaut. Well, I can tell you.
1188
01:18:01,460 --> 01:18:03,060
"You are an astronaut.
1189
01:18:03,060 --> 01:18:06,580
"We're all astronauts
on board Spaceship Earth."
1190
01:18:06,580 --> 01:18:10,900
So here's the image of the Earth
suddenly being like a spaceship,
1191
01:18:10,900 --> 01:18:16,540
like a closed ecosystem,
in which we live in strict balance.
1192
01:18:16,540 --> 01:18:20,140
Notice that suddenly
you are not in the centre any more.
1193
01:18:20,140 --> 01:18:22,340
The spaceship is in the centre.
1194
01:18:25,180 --> 01:18:31,500
Meaning that you start de-emphasising
the importance of the individual human being
1195
01:18:31,500 --> 01:18:35,020
because you're concerned about
the welfare of the system,
1196
01:18:35,020 --> 01:18:37,020
not the individual.
1197
01:18:38,540 --> 01:18:41,820
There was a threat, though,
to this new vision, Fuller said.
1198
01:18:41,820 --> 01:18:43,700
It was politicians,
1199
01:18:43,700 --> 01:18:49,060
because politicians believed that
they could control the system.
1200
01:18:49,060 --> 01:18:51,780
And that always led to
struggles for power,
1201
01:18:51,780 --> 01:18:54,300
and out of that came wars.
1202
01:18:54,300 --> 01:18:58,220
Instead, the system
should be allowed to find its own natural order
1203
01:18:58,220 --> 01:19:02,700
and there would be no need for
hierarchies and power any longer.
1204
01:19:04,300 --> 01:19:07,420
If man is going to stay on board
our Spaceship Earth,
1205
01:19:07,420 --> 01:19:11,420
it can't be done by politics
because politics is so inadequate.
1206
01:19:11,420 --> 01:19:15,700
It cannot be commanded by politics
because a politician doesn't know about such a thing.
1207
01:19:15,700 --> 01:19:19,980
He has to go on what have you, which
is the kind of design he now has.
1208
01:19:19,980 --> 01:19:21,700
All he can do is give you war.
1209
01:19:23,460 --> 01:19:26,460
And Fuller's ideas caught the
imagination of a generation
1210
01:19:26,460 --> 01:19:30,180
who had become disillusioned
with politics.
1211
01:19:32,020 --> 01:19:35,100
The counterculture had emerged
after the student movement
1212
01:19:35,100 --> 01:19:40,260
had failed to change
the structure of power in America.
1213
01:19:40,260 --> 01:19:43,460
Between 1967 and 1971,
1214
01:19:43,460 --> 01:19:46,900
over half a million Americans
left the cities
1215
01:19:46,900 --> 01:19:50,260
and set out to create thousands
of experimental communities.
1216
01:19:52,740 --> 01:19:56,340
It was one of the biggest migrations
in American history.
1217
01:19:56,340 --> 01:20:01,620
They used Buckminster Fuller's
geodesic domes to build their new homes,
1218
01:20:01,620 --> 01:20:07,900
but more than that,
they adopted his cybernetic ideas as their organising principle.
1219
01:20:07,900 --> 01:20:12,980
The communes deliberately had no
hierarchy of control or authority.
1220
01:20:12,980 --> 01:20:17,980
Instead, the central idea was that
everyone should see themselves as part of a system,
1221
01:20:17,980 --> 01:20:21,300
a distributed network
that could stabilise itself
1222
01:20:21,300 --> 01:20:24,380
just like the ecosystems in nature.
1223
01:20:25,620 --> 01:20:28,900
In one of the most influential
communes called Synergia,
1224
01:20:28,900 --> 01:20:33,260
this cybernetic theory
was called ecotechnics.
1225
01:20:33,260 --> 01:20:40,060
We were trying to create a society
based on understanding ecosystems.
1226
01:20:40,060 --> 01:20:44,140
A society of inter-relationship
and balance.
1227
01:20:45,900 --> 01:20:51,380
A man-machine biological system
working in combination.
1228
01:20:51,380 --> 01:20:55,180
That was sort of our ideal
with what we called ecotechnics.
1229
01:20:58,500 --> 01:21:04,460
The idea of the ecotechnics is simply
that you are a part of the system,
1230
01:21:06,300 --> 01:21:14,100
in which there would be
less if not no hierarchy at all.
1231
01:21:14,100 --> 01:21:18,460
In the communes, anything that
smacked of politics was forbidden.
1232
01:21:18,460 --> 01:21:22,660
No coalitions or alliances with
others in the group were permitted.
1233
01:21:22,660 --> 01:21:27,300
Instead, individuals dealt with each
other one-to-one in group sessions
1234
01:21:27,300 --> 01:21:30,980
in which they told each other how
they were feeling about each other.
1235
01:21:32,380 --> 01:21:34,620
I don't know if I want you
to reach me.
1236
01:21:37,300 --> 01:21:39,300
Because I'm afraid.
1237
01:21:39,300 --> 01:21:41,780
I'd like you to try to reach me.
1238
01:21:41,780 --> 01:21:44,100
I don't know that
I'd like you to reach me.
1239
01:21:46,180 --> 01:21:49,620
They remained free individuals,
yet at the same time
1240
01:21:49,620 --> 01:21:54,380
through this system of feedback,
the group would be stable.
1241
01:21:54,380 --> 01:21:57,540
We didn't use the word system,
1242
01:21:57,540 --> 01:22:02,420
but we very much thought of
the whole group, of ourselves,
1243
01:22:02,420 --> 01:22:03,980
as all connected.
1244
01:22:03,980 --> 01:22:07,500
There was a group sense,
there was a group feeling.
1245
01:22:07,500 --> 01:22:10,620
That was our whole purpose,
was to be...
1246
01:22:10,620 --> 01:22:15,420
fully connected to each other
and to have this group sense
1247
01:22:15,420 --> 01:22:19,300
of the organism of many who act as
one. That's part of what it meant.
1248
01:22:19,300 --> 01:22:22,300
Switch.
1249
01:22:22,300 --> 01:22:23,940
Switch.
1250
01:22:23,940 --> 01:22:27,100
Switch, switch, switch, switch.
1251
01:22:27,100 --> 01:22:31,060
'It would be like a dance where we're
creating a new kind of society,
1252
01:22:31,060 --> 01:22:35,340
'freeing each person
to be fully themselves in the group,
1253
01:22:35,340 --> 01:22:38,540
'but we are all affecting each other
at all times,
1254
01:22:38,540 --> 01:22:41,060
'like an organism of many
who act as one.'
1255
01:22:46,380 --> 01:22:49,700
And there was another group
of visionaries in California
1256
01:22:49,700 --> 01:22:52,100
who believed the communes
were only a prototype
1257
01:22:52,100 --> 01:22:56,700
for a self-organising society
built on a global scale.
1258
01:22:56,700 --> 01:23:03,340
They were the engineers who
were inventing the new computer technologies on the west coast.
1259
01:23:03,340 --> 01:23:06,380
The way they were going to develop
these technologies
1260
01:23:06,380 --> 01:23:11,780
would be shaped by this vision
of a natural order that combined humans and machines.
1261
01:23:13,300 --> 01:23:15,100
At the end of 1968,
1262
01:23:15,100 --> 01:23:18,420
a group of computer pioneers
took a conscious decision.
1263
01:23:18,420 --> 01:23:22,140
They would give up
developing large mainframes.
1264
01:23:22,140 --> 01:23:28,540
Instead, they would create
a way of linking small personal computers in networks.
1265
01:23:30,300 --> 01:23:32,060
..when I get introduced.
1266
01:23:32,060 --> 01:23:36,940
The fact that I'm going to come to
you mostly through this medium here
1267
01:23:36,940 --> 01:23:38,860
for the rest of the show...
1268
01:23:38,860 --> 01:23:42,180
In a dramatic demonstration,
they showed how this could be done.
1269
01:23:42,180 --> 01:23:46,100
It included all the necessary
elements, even the computer mouse.
1270
01:23:46,100 --> 01:23:47,740
..the devices that I'm using.
1271
01:23:47,740 --> 01:23:52,740
I use three,
and they're not all centred.
1272
01:23:52,740 --> 01:23:55,220
You have a pointing device called
a mouse,
1273
01:23:55,220 --> 01:23:59,180
a standard keyboard,
and special key set we have here.
1274
01:23:59,180 --> 01:24:02,700
Now, computer,
do the automatic switching that will bring in a camera.
1275
01:24:02,700 --> 01:24:05,580
Hi, Bill. That's great.
1276
01:24:05,580 --> 01:24:09,060
Now we're connected. Audio. You can
see my work, you can point at it.
1277
01:24:09,060 --> 01:24:11,060
I can see your face and we can talk.
1278
01:24:11,060 --> 01:24:13,860
These pioneers believed that
in the future,
1279
01:24:13,860 --> 01:24:18,620
computer networks would allow you
to create the very kind of society
1280
01:24:18,620 --> 01:24:22,980
that was being developed in
the communes but on a global scale.
1281
01:24:22,980 --> 01:24:26,180
Everyone could be free
as individuals, no longer dominated
1282
01:24:26,180 --> 01:24:29,980
by old hierarchies,
or controlled politically.
1283
01:24:29,980 --> 01:24:33,340
Instead, they would be linked
together in a global system
1284
01:24:33,340 --> 01:24:35,620
that would find
its own natural order.
1285
01:24:35,620 --> 01:24:38,740
It would do it through the feedback
of information
1286
01:24:38,740 --> 01:24:42,340
between millions of people
on their personal computers.
1287
01:24:44,700 --> 01:24:48,220
The demonstration was filmed by
one of the prophets of this vision.
1288
01:24:48,220 --> 01:24:53,020
He was a leader of the commune
movement called Stewart Brand.
1289
01:24:53,020 --> 01:24:55,340
They felt like computers
had liberated them
1290
01:24:55,340 --> 01:24:57,340
and they were going to use
computers.
1291
01:24:57,340 --> 01:25:00,340
They were going to enable computers
to liberate society,
1292
01:25:00,340 --> 01:25:02,420
civilisation, every-damn-body.
1293
01:25:02,420 --> 01:25:06,780
I can have file control and I've
already accepted file referencing.
1294
01:25:06,780 --> 01:25:10,980
'Their computers would
save the world. These guys would make sure they could.
1295
01:25:10,980 --> 01:25:15,420
'It was going to be a power to
the people in a very direct sense.'
1296
01:25:15,420 --> 01:25:20,780
That was an early iteration
of the internet, and of Google and all of that.
1297
01:25:20,780 --> 01:25:23,980
This was a vast network,
1298
01:25:23,980 --> 01:25:25,860
that was self-correcting.
1299
01:25:25,860 --> 01:25:31,220
By the late 1960s, what had happened
was that our modern idea of nature,
1300
01:25:31,220 --> 01:25:37,660
the ecosystem, and cybernetic
theories about computers, had fused together.
1301
01:25:37,660 --> 01:25:41,940
Out of it had come an epic new
vision of how to manage the world
1302
01:25:41,940 --> 01:25:44,620
without the old corruption of power.
1303
01:25:44,620 --> 01:25:47,540
It was a vision that seemed to be
different
1304
01:25:47,540 --> 01:25:50,340
from all past political attempts
to change the world
1305
01:25:50,340 --> 01:25:53,660
because it was based on
the natural order.
1306
01:25:53,660 --> 01:25:59,700
In 1967, a young writer called
Richard Brautigan crystallised this.
1307
01:25:59,700 --> 01:26:04,860
One morning he walked through
the streets of San Francisco handing out a manifesto.
1308
01:26:04,860 --> 01:26:08,740
It described a future world
held in a balanced equilibrium
1309
01:26:08,740 --> 01:26:11,820
by the fusion
of nature and computers.
1310
01:26:11,820 --> 01:26:17,140
It was called All Watched Over
By Machines of Loving Grace.
1311
01:26:17,140 --> 01:26:19,700
'I like to think -
1312
01:26:19,700 --> 01:26:22,580
'and the sooner the better -
of a cybernetic meadow
1313
01:26:22,580 --> 01:26:25,940
'where mammals
and computers live together
1314
01:26:25,940 --> 01:26:31,500
'in mutually programming harmony
like pure water touching clear sky.
1315
01:26:31,500 --> 01:26:34,460
'I like to think -
right now, please -
1316
01:26:34,460 --> 01:26:38,140
'of a cybernetic forest
filled with pines and electronics,
1317
01:26:38,140 --> 01:26:44,420
'where deer stroll peacefully
past computers as if they were flowers with spinning blossoms.
1318
01:26:44,420 --> 01:26:47,740
'I like to think - it has to be -
1319
01:26:47,740 --> 01:26:51,540
'of a cybernetic ecology where we are
free of our labours
1320
01:26:51,540 --> 01:26:56,540
'and join back to nature, returned to
our mammal brothers and sisters
1321
01:26:56,540 --> 01:27:01,660
'and all watched over
by machines of loving grace.'
1322
01:27:12,940 --> 01:27:17,340
And then the world was hit by
a new kind of crisis.
1323
01:27:17,340 --> 01:27:19,940
It was a crisis
that could not be solved
1324
01:27:19,940 --> 01:27:23,980
by the old hierarchies of power
or by national governments.
1325
01:27:23,980 --> 01:27:28,260
As a result, the idea of the
world as a self-regulating system
1326
01:27:28,260 --> 01:27:30,700
was going to move to centre stage.
1327
01:27:34,580 --> 01:27:35,980
By the early 1970s,
1328
01:27:35,980 --> 01:27:40,260
it was clear that there was
a global environmental crisis.
1329
01:27:40,260 --> 01:27:45,060
But it was also clear that
politicians had no idea how to deal with it.
1330
01:27:45,060 --> 01:27:49,540
The crisis baffled them because
of its horrifying complexity.
1331
01:27:49,540 --> 01:27:53,260
It crossed national boundaries
and involved the whole of nature.
1332
01:27:54,780 --> 01:28:00,540
But then a man emerged who said
he knew how to save the world from this disaster.
1333
01:28:00,540 --> 01:28:07,980
He was the cybernetic scientist
who had built America's early warning system, Jay Forrester.
1334
01:28:07,980 --> 01:28:11,060
By now, Forrester had become
a powerful figure
1335
01:28:11,060 --> 01:28:14,820
because he used his computers
to build models of corporations
1336
01:28:14,820 --> 01:28:18,140
and even whole cities as systems.
1337
01:28:19,660 --> 01:28:24,060
Then Forrester became involved
with a think tank called the Club of Rome.
1338
01:28:24,060 --> 01:28:27,420
They were a group of international
businessmen and technocrats
1339
01:28:27,420 --> 01:28:30,980
who were trying to find a way of
solving the environmental crisis.
1340
01:28:33,380 --> 01:28:37,380
At a meeting in Switzerland,
Forrester told them that the only way to do this
1341
01:28:37,380 --> 01:28:41,860
was to look at the world
as an entire cybernetic system.
1342
01:28:41,860 --> 01:28:45,980
And he would build a model that
would do just that in his computer.
1343
01:28:49,460 --> 01:28:51,060
Our problem is the big problem.
1344
01:28:51,060 --> 01:28:55,140
Our problem is a hard one and you're
not dealing with the hard problem.
1345
01:28:55,140 --> 01:28:57,420
And that hard problem was?
The world.
1346
01:28:57,420 --> 01:29:00,660
So on the way back from Switzerland,
1347
01:29:00,660 --> 01:29:04,420
I sketched out
1348
01:29:04,420 --> 01:29:07,580
the first sketch of such a system,
1349
01:29:07,580 --> 01:29:10,540
which was this.
1350
01:29:10,540 --> 01:29:13,940
This is a picture
of that first sketch
1351
01:29:13,940 --> 01:29:19,860
of the world in terms of
population, resources,
1352
01:29:19,860 --> 01:29:22,980
capital investment in industry,
1353
01:29:22,980 --> 01:29:28,580
investment in agriculture, and the
accumulated pollution in the world.
1354
01:29:28,580 --> 01:29:32,100
All of these lines
here are the feedback loops,
1355
01:29:32,100 --> 01:29:34,060
the many feedback loops.
1356
01:29:34,060 --> 01:29:38,220
Those feedback loops are spread
all through the model,
1357
01:29:38,220 --> 01:29:42,580
as you can see, by the various lines
that are connecting things here.
1358
01:29:42,580 --> 01:29:48,420
Back in America, Forrester set up
a team of systems theorists.
1359
01:29:48,420 --> 01:29:51,540
They built a computer model
of the world.
1360
01:29:51,540 --> 01:29:54,300
The team designed it
as a giant cybernetic system
1361
01:29:54,300 --> 01:29:58,180
in which all known data
about population growth,
1362
01:29:58,180 --> 01:30:01,620
industrial production,
food and agriculture,
1363
01:30:01,620 --> 01:30:05,180
natural resources and pollution
were all fed in.
1364
01:30:05,180 --> 01:30:11,460
The team then ran the model
and what it predicted was an imminent global collapse.
1365
01:30:11,460 --> 01:30:14,900
And when you ran that model,
what did it show?
1366
01:30:14,900 --> 01:30:17,540
It showed that in all likelihood,
1367
01:30:17,540 --> 01:30:21,660
population would overshoot
the carrying capacity of the world,
1368
01:30:21,660 --> 01:30:26,260
and then you would have a collapse
of population back to a lower level,
1369
01:30:26,260 --> 01:30:30,940
and that the standard of living
would decline through all that period in a serious way.
1370
01:30:30,940 --> 01:30:37,100
The model based on current policies
lead essentially to disaster.
1371
01:30:37,100 --> 01:30:41,620
Disease, crowding, wars,
atomic bombs.
1372
01:30:41,620 --> 01:30:43,500
It was pessimistic, wasn't it?
1373
01:30:43,500 --> 01:30:47,060
Well, I considered myself
an optimist.
1374
01:30:47,060 --> 01:30:50,860
The Club of Rome then held a press
conference where they announced that
1375
01:30:50,860 --> 01:30:56,380
the computer had predicted that
the world was heading for disaster.
1376
01:30:56,380 --> 01:30:59,300
From a very large number
of computer runs
1377
01:30:59,300 --> 01:31:01,860
making various assumptions,
1378
01:31:01,860 --> 01:31:05,180
adopting various maxima and minima,
1379
01:31:05,180 --> 01:31:10,940
there is in fact a general forecast
of a breakdown of world society
1380
01:31:10,940 --> 01:31:13,420
in the first decades
of the next century.
1381
01:31:13,420 --> 01:31:16,100
We regard the MIT report
1382
01:31:16,100 --> 01:31:20,380
as an extraordinarily important
initial pioneering effort.
1383
01:31:20,380 --> 01:31:22,900
It's opening up
a great new field of research,
1384
01:31:22,900 --> 01:31:24,820
research in the world as a system.
1385
01:31:26,500 --> 01:31:30,020
The Club of Rome published a book
called The Limits To Growth,
1386
01:31:30,020 --> 01:31:34,900
which laid out
Forrester's world model and its frightening conclusions.
1387
01:31:34,900 --> 01:31:40,100
It was a bestseller,
and it transformed the debate about the environment.
1388
01:31:40,100 --> 01:31:45,140
Because Forrester's model offered
a way of conceptualising the problem
1389
01:31:45,140 --> 01:31:49,620
that seemed to be scientific
and therefore neutral.
1390
01:31:49,620 --> 01:31:52,900
His vision of the world
as one interconnected system
1391
01:31:52,900 --> 01:31:57,700
seemed to transcend politics
and the petty interests of nations.
1392
01:32:00,300 --> 01:32:02,980
Then in Stockholm in 1972,
1393
01:32:02,980 --> 01:32:07,180
the United Nations held a conference
for the first time ever
1394
01:32:07,180 --> 01:32:09,740
on the world environmental crisis.
1395
01:32:09,740 --> 01:32:12,540
The international bureaucrats
who ran it
1396
01:32:12,540 --> 01:32:15,340
turned to this idea of the world
as a system
1397
01:32:15,340 --> 01:32:17,820
to provide the conceptual framework.
1398
01:32:21,700 --> 01:32:26,180
The world needed to be managed
in a new non-political way
1399
01:32:26,180 --> 01:32:28,940
to avoid the threat
of global collapse.
1400
01:32:32,900 --> 01:32:37,020
This is the beginning of a debate.
Nobody's decided what the limits are.
1401
01:32:37,020 --> 01:32:41,380
One can question whether it's 2010
when we all collapse or 2050
1402
01:32:41,380 --> 01:32:44,340
when we all collapse, but what is
absolutely certain is,
1403
01:32:44,340 --> 01:32:46,620
you cannot run a planetary society
1404
01:32:46,620 --> 01:32:52,980
on the total irresponsible
sovereignty of 120 different governments. It simply can't be done.
1405
01:32:52,980 --> 01:32:58,140
Forrester's apocalyptic predictions
dominated the conference.
1406
01:32:58,140 --> 01:33:03,020
But he also said that his
computer model showed the only way of avoiding that disaster.
1407
01:33:05,420 --> 01:33:10,660
World governments, he said,
should give up on any idea of promoting continual growth.
1408
01:33:10,660 --> 01:33:16,300
Instead they should create a new
kind of steady state for the world.
1409
01:33:16,300 --> 01:33:21,300
Their job was now to hold the world
system in a balanced equilibrium
1410
01:33:21,300 --> 01:33:23,180
to avoid the collapse.
1411
01:33:23,180 --> 01:33:28,860
Forrester was arguing for
a fundamental shift in the role of politics and politicians.
1412
01:33:28,860 --> 01:33:31,900
They should give up
trying to change the world,
1413
01:33:31,900 --> 01:33:35,500
and instead,
the aim of politics should now be
1414
01:33:35,500 --> 01:33:40,020
to manage the existing system -
to hold it in equilibrium.
1415
01:33:42,300 --> 01:33:45,500
The idea of growth
1416
01:33:45,500 --> 01:33:48,860
is in contrast to the idea
of equilibrium,
1417
01:33:48,860 --> 01:33:53,860
where you're maintaining
a constant or equilibrium level
1418
01:33:53,860 --> 01:33:59,860
of population and enough industrial
activity to sustain that population,
1419
01:33:59,860 --> 01:34:05,900
which could lead to a much more
desirable steady state equilibrium,
1420
01:34:05,900 --> 01:34:08,460
a man-made equilibrium of our choice,
1421
01:34:08,460 --> 01:34:13,500
and live within
the boundaries set by the world,
1422
01:34:13,500 --> 01:34:16,340
by the Earth,
by the capacity of the Earth.
1423
01:34:17,860 --> 01:34:19,380
Which was a stable world?
1424
01:34:19,380 --> 01:34:21,820
Which would be a stable, ongoing one.
1425
01:34:21,820 --> 01:34:27,740
But large sections
of the environmental movement were opposed to this idea
1426
01:34:27,740 --> 01:34:30,900
and they held protests
outside the conference.
1427
01:34:30,900 --> 01:34:36,940
They said that the idea of
enforcing stability on the world was not neutral,
1428
01:34:36,940 --> 01:34:41,900
that the Limits To Growth model
was not being used to save the world but to control it.
1429
01:34:43,660 --> 01:34:45,700
Critics of Forrester's model
pointed out
1430
01:34:45,700 --> 01:34:51,220
that he had put in no feedback loops
for politics and political change.
1431
01:34:51,220 --> 01:34:55,540
The idea that in the future human
beings might adapt to the problems
1432
01:34:55,540 --> 01:34:58,180
by changing their values and goals,
1433
01:34:58,180 --> 01:35:01,780
and thus changing the whole system,
was absent.
1434
01:35:01,780 --> 01:35:05,260
Human beings were only present
in the model as mechanistic nodes.
1435
01:35:06,820 --> 01:35:08,940
It was a machine vision of the world
1436
01:35:08,940 --> 01:35:13,860
which could not imagine a future
where human beings, unlike machines,
1437
01:35:13,860 --> 01:35:18,140
would behave in ways
they hadn't before.
1438
01:35:18,140 --> 01:35:20,860
That led to only two choices.
1439
01:35:20,860 --> 01:35:24,700
You either preserve the existing
system in a steady state
1440
01:35:24,700 --> 01:35:27,300
or face catastrophe.
1441
01:35:27,300 --> 01:35:32,340
And this, the protestors argued,
suited those who wanted to maintain the status quo -
1442
01:35:32,340 --> 01:35:33,860
those in power.
1443
01:35:39,980 --> 01:35:44,700
This argument had happened before,
back in the 1930s,
1444
01:35:44,700 --> 01:35:48,180
at the very moment when
Britain's imperial power was waning.
1445
01:35:49,700 --> 01:35:54,460
In 1935, Arthur Tansley, who
invented the idea of the ecosystem,
1446
01:35:54,460 --> 01:36:00,900
accused one of the most powerful men
in the British Empire of abusing ecological ideas.
1447
01:36:02,420 --> 01:36:07,300
He was Field Marshal Smuts,
who was the autocratic ruler of South Africa.
1448
01:36:07,300 --> 01:36:13,300
Smuts used ecological ideas
to develop a philosophy he called holism.
1449
01:36:13,300 --> 01:36:18,180
Holism said that the whole world
was one giant organic system
1450
01:36:18,180 --> 01:36:21,980
in which everything
had its natural place.
1451
01:36:21,980 --> 01:36:24,620
So long as everyone stayed
in their proper place,
1452
01:36:24,620 --> 01:36:26,940
this global system would be stable.
1453
01:36:28,580 --> 01:36:32,300
Smuts had a vision
of a new global world order
1454
01:36:32,300 --> 01:36:36,780
where artificial distinctions
like nations would disappear,
1455
01:36:36,780 --> 01:36:40,660
and his model for this world system
was the British Empire.
1456
01:36:42,540 --> 01:36:45,620
And it would be managed by the white
European races
1457
01:36:45,620 --> 01:36:48,740
because that was their natural place
in the whole.
1458
01:36:50,260 --> 01:36:52,900
General Smuts
actually coined the word holism.
1459
01:36:52,900 --> 01:36:56,980
Every human being
would have its place within society,
1460
01:36:56,980 --> 01:37:01,140
every animal would have its place
in the environment,
1461
01:37:01,140 --> 01:37:03,100
and every other species -
1462
01:37:03,100 --> 01:37:05,780
grass, grasshoppers, you name it -
1463
01:37:05,780 --> 01:37:09,100
would have their place
in the environment,
1464
01:37:09,100 --> 01:37:13,260
struggling towards fulfilling their
wholeness in the greater whole.
1465
01:37:13,260 --> 01:37:19,500
'It is an order of nature
and an order of society which celebrates equilibrium.
1466
01:37:19,500 --> 01:37:22,220
'It's a static world,
1467
01:37:22,220 --> 01:37:27,380
'and holism became a tool to make
the British Empire more stable.'
1468
01:37:29,180 --> 01:37:34,660
The idea that ecosystem theories,
theories of equilibrium etc,
1469
01:37:34,660 --> 01:37:42,300
that these are neutral, is bogus.
They are highly politically charged.
1470
01:37:44,180 --> 01:37:50,220
What Smuts was doing showed
how easily scientific ideas about nature and natural equilibrium
1471
01:37:50,220 --> 01:37:53,980
could be used by those in power
to maintain the status quo.
1472
01:37:57,980 --> 01:38:02,660
Tansley hated this, and he publicly
accused Smuts of what he called
1473
01:38:02,660 --> 01:38:05,940
"the abuse
of vegetational concepts."
1474
01:38:10,900 --> 01:38:16,260
Now 40 years later, the protestors
in Stockholm were accusing Forrester of doing the same.
1475
01:38:16,260 --> 01:38:19,780
The real role of the
environmental movement, they said,
1476
01:38:19,780 --> 01:38:24,100
was not to hold the world stable
but to struggle to change it.
1477
01:38:24,100 --> 01:38:29,660
Because it was the greed of
the Western elites that was causing the environmental crisis.
1478
01:38:29,660 --> 01:38:32,300
The movement, they claimed,
was being hijacked
1479
01:38:32,300 --> 01:38:35,540
by right-wing think tanks
and Cold War technocrats
1480
01:38:35,540 --> 01:38:39,220
who were using the balance of nature
as a political trick.
1481
01:38:39,220 --> 01:38:42,940
The trick is claiming that
you have something as nature.
1482
01:38:42,940 --> 01:38:47,140
"In nature you have this balance
1483
01:38:47,140 --> 01:38:51,500
"and we need a society
to have the same balance."
1484
01:38:51,500 --> 01:38:53,500
And then...
1485
01:38:53,500 --> 01:38:58,020
it becomes unquestionable,
because you cannot change nature.
1486
01:38:58,020 --> 01:39:02,660
And thus you cannot change society,
because society should be the same as nature.
1487
01:39:02,660 --> 01:39:05,420
So it's a sort of
intellectual trick.
1488
01:39:05,420 --> 01:39:09,380
They needed this concept of the
balanced nature
1489
01:39:09,380 --> 01:39:13,300
to protect the elite
and to protect the system.
1490
01:39:14,900 --> 01:39:17,380
But the protests were in vain,
1491
01:39:17,380 --> 01:39:22,420
because Forrester's
cybernetic vision of the world as one interconnected system
1492
01:39:22,420 --> 01:39:25,460
now began to penetrate
deep into the public imagination.
1493
01:39:26,740 --> 01:39:33,660
What began to rise up in the 1970s
was the idea that we, and everything else on the planet,
1494
01:39:33,660 --> 01:39:36,900
are connected together
in complex webs and networks.
1495
01:39:38,860 --> 01:39:42,460
Out of that were now going to come
epic visions of connectivity,
1496
01:39:42,460 --> 01:39:48,980
like the Gaia theory, and utopian
ideas about the worldwide web and the global economic system.
1497
01:39:51,060 --> 01:39:53,780
Underlying this was
a profound shift.
1498
01:39:53,780 --> 01:39:58,900
What was beginning to disappear
was the enlightenment idea, that human beings
1499
01:39:58,900 --> 01:40:03,100
are separate from the rest of nature
and masters of their own destiny.
1500
01:40:04,740 --> 01:40:09,900
Instead, we began see ourselves
as components, cogs in a system,
1501
01:40:09,900 --> 01:40:14,860
and our duty was to help that system
maintain its natural balance.
1502
01:40:18,420 --> 01:40:21,820
It's quite clear the entire Earth has
to be treated as a spaceship,
1503
01:40:21,820 --> 01:40:24,060
run as a spaceship,
planned as a spaceship.
1504
01:40:24,060 --> 01:40:30,300
We're all part of the web of life
and the sooner man fully appreciates this, the better.
1505
01:40:30,300 --> 01:40:36,300
This image, our home, our Earth,
one people in one world.
1506
01:40:36,300 --> 01:40:41,420
What we've really got to do is manage
the entire planet as a single system.
1507
01:40:41,420 --> 01:40:44,020
Well, ecology
is the balance of nature.
1508
01:40:44,020 --> 01:40:47,940
It's the relationship between me,
the plants and animals, and the world in general.
1509
01:40:47,940 --> 01:40:52,780
Now the problem is totally global,
which is going to mean running the entire planet as a single system.
1510
01:40:52,780 --> 01:40:55,620
Without upsetting the natural
balances that are there.
1511
01:40:55,620 --> 01:40:58,820
Ecology, yes.
That's what I'm talking about.
1512
01:40:58,820 --> 01:40:59,980
TAPE SLOWS DOWN
1513
01:41:00,380 --> 01:41:04,020
What made this systems idea
so powerful
1514
01:41:04,020 --> 01:41:07,580
was that it didn't seem
to be based on a political ideology.
1515
01:41:07,580 --> 01:41:13,060
It was a scientific idea
of organisation that mirrored the natural world.
1516
01:41:13,060 --> 01:41:21,460
But at precisely this moment
in the mid-1970s, the science that supported the idea fell apart.
1517
01:41:21,460 --> 01:41:27,660
The fatal flaw
in the theory of the self-regulating ecosystem was exposed.
1518
01:41:27,660 --> 01:41:32,100
A new generation of ecologists
began to produce empirical evidence
1519
01:41:32,100 --> 01:41:36,420
that showed that ecosystems
did not tend towards stability,
1520
01:41:36,420 --> 01:41:38,980
that the very opposite was true,
1521
01:41:38,980 --> 01:41:45,740
that nature, far from seeking
equilibrium, was always in a state of dynamic and unpredictable change.
1522
01:41:45,740 --> 01:41:51,100
Ecologists really thought that
we were dealing with a stable world.
1523
01:41:51,100 --> 01:41:52,780
You didn't question it.
1524
01:41:52,780 --> 01:41:58,500
It was just like the air. You didn't?
You didn't question it at all.
1525
01:41:58,500 --> 01:42:05,980
Now the really remarkable thing is
when people began to find out that
1526
01:42:05,980 --> 01:42:12,220
that might have some chinks in it,
that that might not be right,
1527
01:42:12,220 --> 01:42:15,460
people were really almost
viscerally upset.
1528
01:42:15,460 --> 01:42:19,860
Ecologists, many ecologists,
were almost viscerally upset
1529
01:42:19,860 --> 01:42:26,860
because it offended that very
comfortable idea that nature was stable.
1530
01:42:26,860 --> 01:42:28,460
HOWLING
1531
01:42:28,460 --> 01:42:34,140
Ecologists began to revisit
environments that were supposed to be models of stability.
1532
01:42:34,140 --> 01:42:40,940
One ecologist called Daniel Botkin
travelled to a remote island in the Great Lakes called Ile Royale.
1533
01:42:40,940 --> 01:42:45,700
In theory, the populations of
moose and wolves were supposed to live in a stable balance.
1534
01:42:45,700 --> 01:42:50,100
But when Botkin researched the
history of the two populations,
1535
01:42:50,100 --> 01:42:54,220
he discovered that in reality
they were constantly changing.
1536
01:42:54,220 --> 01:42:57,060
In theory, the wolves
controlled the moose,
1537
01:42:57,060 --> 01:43:00,940
and the moose and the wolves
and vegetation all lived together
1538
01:43:00,940 --> 01:43:03,300
in this miraculous system.
1539
01:43:03,300 --> 01:43:09,540
We went out
to try to figure out how could this beautiful system be steady?
1540
01:43:09,540 --> 01:43:14,460
Once I got out there
and started to look at the historic information about it,
1541
01:43:14,460 --> 01:43:19,140
it was all about changes -
everything was always changing, it wasn't what it was supposed to be.
1542
01:43:19,140 --> 01:43:23,820
When you looked at the populations
of the moose and wolves, you saw nothing but change.
1543
01:43:23,820 --> 01:43:26,020
They just fluctuated.
1544
01:43:28,300 --> 01:43:31,700
You can still say, "Maybe they're
on their way to a steady state,"
1545
01:43:31,700 --> 01:43:35,100
but then you can go back and look
at the history of the vegetation.
1546
01:43:37,020 --> 01:43:43,780
Trees will tell us their own story
and the soil with its pollen tells you more of the story,
1547
01:43:43,780 --> 01:43:47,740
so you can reconstruct centuries
of history from forests.
1548
01:43:47,740 --> 01:43:51,140
When you looked at that,
you saw nothing but change.
1549
01:43:51,140 --> 01:43:56,980
As a result of this, ecology started
to look at the history of ecosystems
1550
01:43:56,980 --> 01:44:02,100
and what they discovered
began to undermine the very foundations of the science.
1551
01:44:02,100 --> 01:44:07,820
The theory said that when
ecosystems were disturbed by storms or fires or floods,
1552
01:44:07,820 --> 01:44:12,020
they would always try to return
to their original balanced state.
1553
01:44:12,020 --> 01:44:16,340
But study after study showed that
the very opposite was true,
1554
01:44:16,340 --> 01:44:22,660
that after the disturbances, the
plants and animals would recombine in radically different ways.
1555
01:44:22,660 --> 01:44:28,420
The history of nature
was full of radical dislocations and unpredictable change.
1556
01:44:29,940 --> 01:44:32,820
There was no stable pattern.
1557
01:44:32,820 --> 01:44:34,780
Big wind storms,
1558
01:44:34,780 --> 01:44:36,740
hurricanes,
1559
01:44:36,740 --> 01:44:37,900
tornadoes,
1560
01:44:37,900 --> 01:44:39,420
fires.
1561
01:44:39,420 --> 01:44:44,420
You get a disturbance, the forest
doesn't come back the way it was.
1562
01:44:44,420 --> 01:44:46,460
Disturbance comes along
1563
01:44:46,460 --> 01:44:50,580
and it resets the system
to something new.
1564
01:44:50,580 --> 01:44:56,900
What we were doing was to challenge
the basic assumptions of ecology,
1565
01:44:56,900 --> 01:45:02,060
that the balance of nature
was something that guided ecological systems.
1566
01:45:02,060 --> 01:45:07,980
But even as this was happening,
a huge experiment began that aimed to prove convincingly
1567
01:45:07,980 --> 01:45:11,100
how stability
was maintained in ecosystems.
1568
01:45:12,620 --> 01:45:17,100
An ecologist called George Van Dyne
set out to create a computer model
1569
01:45:17,100 --> 01:45:20,700
of the grasslands that
stretched across Colorado.
1570
01:45:20,700 --> 01:45:25,660
All the animals, insects, plants
and the systems that linked them
1571
01:45:25,660 --> 01:45:28,980
were going to be recreated
inside a computer.
1572
01:45:28,980 --> 01:45:34,140
Van Dyne wanted to finally show
how feedback worked in nature.
1573
01:45:34,140 --> 01:45:38,300
What George Van Dyne really wanted
to do was take this universe
1574
01:45:38,300 --> 01:45:41,980
that you see in front of you,
this grassland landscape,
1575
01:45:41,980 --> 01:45:47,460
and be able to
represent it in the computer, to have a virtual grassland.
1576
01:45:47,460 --> 01:45:55,380
It's an act of substantial arrogance
to say that I think that I can devise a virtual ecosystem
1577
01:45:55,380 --> 01:46:01,100
and capture it inside this computer,
I think. That's a good... It was a great idea.
1578
01:46:01,100 --> 01:46:05,620
Van Dyne hired dozens of researchers
to begin collecting data
1579
01:46:05,620 --> 01:46:11,500
on everything that lived
in the grasslands AND what was underneath in the soil.
1580
01:46:11,500 --> 01:46:15,700
They built a machine that travelled
across hundreds of square miles,
1581
01:46:15,700 --> 01:46:17,700
hoovering up insects
and small mammals.
1582
01:46:18,500 --> 01:46:22,020
These were then opened up
to find out what they had eaten.
1583
01:46:23,540 --> 01:46:28,820
Other researchers followed larger
animals to find out in minute detail what they were eating.
1584
01:46:30,340 --> 01:46:34,060
We had a graduate student who would
follow the pronghorn, the antelope.
1585
01:46:34,060 --> 01:46:37,260
He could walk along beside him
and watch what they ate.
1586
01:46:37,260 --> 01:46:41,500
Every time they took a bite
of his plant, he would record on his tape recorder,
1587
01:46:41,500 --> 01:46:45,300
"One bite of blue grama,
one bite of sphaeralcea."
1588
01:46:45,300 --> 01:46:48,940
Two bites of artemisia,
three inches tall without flower.
1589
01:46:48,940 --> 01:46:52,340
Two more bites of artemisia.
Six bites of kosha without flower.
1590
01:46:52,340 --> 01:46:57,420
Three bites of blue grama,
two inches tall without flower.
1591
01:46:57,420 --> 01:47:00,900
Sometimes they would take a bite.
He couldn't tell what it was,
1592
01:47:00,900 --> 01:47:04,340
so he would stop, open the animal's
mouth, reach in, pull it out,
1593
01:47:04,340 --> 01:47:06,180
look at it, put it back and go on.
1594
01:47:08,380 --> 01:47:12,060
And they put a hole
in the side of the bison
1595
01:47:12,060 --> 01:47:18,020
where you could reach in and sample
what the bison had been eating, look at it under a microscope.
1596
01:47:18,020 --> 01:47:23,980
Then you'd weigh each
little separate pile and you'd enter it in a data sheet.
1597
01:47:23,980 --> 01:47:27,500
We'd give it to Dave
who was the data manager
1598
01:47:27,500 --> 01:47:32,260
and he would get one
of his minions to punch it on an IBM card, an 80 column IBM card,
1599
01:47:32,260 --> 01:47:36,300
and that would be read
into the computer and stored on magnetic tape.
1600
01:47:36,300 --> 01:47:40,340
Let's take a look at the reading
cycle and see how we're doing.
1601
01:47:40,340 --> 01:47:47,020
George Van Dyne then used
all the data to construct a vast, intricate model
1602
01:47:47,020 --> 01:47:52,060
that simulated how all the different
elements of the system - the plants and animals - interacted.
1603
01:47:52,060 --> 01:47:56,380
Every species had its own sub-model
that then was linked through feedback loops
1604
01:47:56,380 --> 01:47:59,660
to other species
and their sub-models.
1605
01:47:59,660 --> 01:48:04,620
This grasshopper sub-model tells us
what's going on with grasshoppers. There's predators down here.
1606
01:48:04,620 --> 01:48:07,980
At this point,
it's just an unspecified thing.
1607
01:48:07,980 --> 01:48:11,300
What that means is that there
was another sub-model
1608
01:48:11,300 --> 01:48:15,540
for birds, for small mammals
and other potential predators of grasshoppers.
1609
01:48:15,540 --> 01:48:20,700
So there was another
sub-model that was simulating the populations of, let's say,
1610
01:48:20,700 --> 01:48:25,660
lark buntings all the time,
which is one of the predators on the grasshoppers.
1611
01:48:25,660 --> 01:48:31,700
That sub-model then feeds
that information to this sub-model,
1612
01:48:31,700 --> 01:48:38,260
which uses Sam's equation
to predict the death rate of grasshopper eggs for that day.
1613
01:48:38,260 --> 01:48:43,300
But when George Van Dyne ran
the model, what happened seemed to make no sense.
1614
01:48:43,300 --> 01:48:46,300
No stable underlying
pattern emerged.
1615
01:48:47,820 --> 01:48:51,940
Van Dyne was convinced that all
the model needed was more data
1616
01:48:51,940 --> 01:48:58,540
and he worked feverishly, sometimes
all night, putting more and more information into the computer model.
1617
01:49:00,060 --> 01:49:03,820
But in fact, he was just
making the problem worse.
1618
01:49:03,820 --> 01:49:11,380
The ecosystem theory had worked for
previous ecologists because they had ruthlessly simplified nature.
1619
01:49:11,380 --> 01:49:16,300
What Van Dyne was really doing
with his mountains of data
1620
01:49:16,300 --> 01:49:22,340
was recreating the real
chaotic instability of nature inside his computer.
1621
01:49:26,780 --> 01:49:33,980
In 1981, Van Dyne died
of a heart attack at the age of 48 and the project was closed down.
1622
01:49:36,020 --> 01:49:39,980
The collapse of his experiment
marked the end of the systems theory
1623
01:49:39,980 --> 01:49:43,980
which had driven the science
of ecology for 50 years,
1624
01:49:43,980 --> 01:49:49,980
the theory that somewhere in nature
is an ultimate order, a balanced equilibrium.
1625
01:49:51,940 --> 01:49:58,580
The balance of nature is an illusion
and we hold on to it
1626
01:49:58,580 --> 01:50:00,620
so tightly in our culture.
1627
01:50:00,620 --> 01:50:07,020
That is completely counter to
what contemporary ecology tells us.
1628
01:50:07,020 --> 01:50:12,340
Contemporary ecology says that we
live in a very dynamic world.
1629
01:50:12,340 --> 01:50:16,460
We have to replace that assumption
of the balance of nature.
1630
01:50:16,460 --> 01:50:19,580
You have to discard the myth.
1631
01:50:20,740 --> 01:50:23,660
The scientific basis
had fallen away,
1632
01:50:23,660 --> 01:50:28,180
but the idealistic vision of
the self-organising system continued to grow.
1633
01:50:28,180 --> 01:50:34,180
The reason
was that in an age of mass democracy where the individual was sacrosanct
1634
01:50:34,180 --> 01:50:41,860
and politics discredited and
distrusted, it offered the promise of a new egalitarian world order.
1635
01:50:47,780 --> 01:50:49,420
SHOUTING AND YELLING
1636
01:50:53,140 --> 01:50:56,020
So this is the situation here,
incredible scenes.
1637
01:50:56,020 --> 01:50:59,140
Parliament in the hands of
these opposition supporters.
1638
01:50:59,140 --> 01:51:03,740
The MPs fled so quickly that they
even left their papers behind.
1639
01:51:03,740 --> 01:51:10,700
In the early part of this century,
the idea of the self-organising network re-emerged
1640
01:51:10,700 --> 01:51:14,260
in what seemed to be
its original radical form.
1641
01:51:14,260 --> 01:51:20,260
Beginning in 2003,
a wave of spontaneous revolution swept through Asia and Europe.
1642
01:51:20,260 --> 01:51:24,820
In each case, hundreds of thousands
of people flooded into the capitals
1643
01:51:24,820 --> 01:51:29,300
of Georgia, the Ukraine
and Kyrgyzstan
1644
01:51:29,300 --> 01:51:31,980
and they forced the old
corrupt leaders from power.
1645
01:51:33,660 --> 01:51:36,500
In all these cases,
no-one seemed to be in charge.
1646
01:51:38,020 --> 01:51:43,460
But then, journalists discovered
that the internet had played a key role.
1647
01:51:43,460 --> 01:51:49,460
It had brought millions of people
together to create revolutions that had no guiding ideology
1648
01:51:49,460 --> 01:51:54,500
except a desire for
self-determination and for freedom.
1649
01:51:54,500 --> 01:51:58,900
Tonight, well, I feel really sort
of powerful and happy.
1650
01:51:58,900 --> 01:52:02,820
We did what we wanted.
This is our freedom.
1651
01:52:06,660 --> 01:52:10,700
Now, computer,
do the automatic switching that will bring in a camera.
1652
01:52:10,700 --> 01:52:12,180
Hi, Bill.
1653
01:52:12,180 --> 01:52:14,060
That's great. Now we're connected.
1654
01:52:14,060 --> 01:52:17,140
It seemed to be the triumph
of the vision that had begun
1655
01:52:17,140 --> 01:52:20,820
with the computer utopians
in California in the 1960s.
1656
01:52:20,820 --> 01:52:26,100
They had dreamt of a time when
interconnected webs of computers
1657
01:52:26,100 --> 01:52:30,860
would allow individuals to create
new non-hierarchical societies,
1658
01:52:30,860 --> 01:52:34,940
just like in the commune
experiments, but on a global scale.
1659
01:52:34,940 --> 01:52:38,820
Now that dream seemed
to be really coming true.
1660
01:52:38,820 --> 01:52:45,820
In 2009, Twitter and Facebook
appeared to play a key role in organising the protests in Iran.
1661
01:52:47,740 --> 01:52:51,380
There was a lot of excitement
in the ability of individuals in Iran
1662
01:52:51,380 --> 01:52:55,060
to connect with a global audience
and with their peers inside Iran
1663
01:52:55,060 --> 01:53:01,860
to build a political consciousness
in support of democracy.
1664
01:53:01,860 --> 01:53:07,220
It represents the emergence of a
completely new information ecosystem.
1665
01:53:08,740 --> 01:53:14,620
But in all the revolutions,
that new sense of freedom lasted only for a moment.
1666
01:53:14,620 --> 01:53:19,820
In the Ukraine, Viktor Yanukovych,
the man who was ousted, is back in power
1667
01:53:19,820 --> 01:53:23,660
and has started to dismantle
democratic institutions.
1668
01:53:25,260 --> 01:53:29,500
In Kyrgyzstan,
the new president fled because of accusations of corruption
1669
01:53:29,500 --> 01:53:33,500
and the country is torn apart
by ethnic clashes.
1670
01:53:33,500 --> 01:53:38,380
And Georgia has now fallen in
the world index of press freedom.
1671
01:53:38,380 --> 01:53:41,340
At the time of the revolution,
it was 73rd.
1672
01:53:41,340 --> 01:53:43,460
It is now 99th.
1673
01:53:46,220 --> 01:53:50,020
What had been forgotten in
the optimism about the revolutions
1674
01:53:50,020 --> 01:53:55,020
was what had really happened
in the original experiments in the communes.
1675
01:53:58,500 --> 01:54:00,420
They all failed.
1676
01:54:00,420 --> 01:54:06,140
Most lasted no more
than three years, some for less than six months.
1677
01:54:06,140 --> 01:54:13,380
And what tore them all apart
was the very thing that was supposed to have been banished - power.
1678
01:54:13,380 --> 01:54:17,540
The commune members
discovered that some people were more free than others.
1679
01:54:19,180 --> 01:54:22,900
Strong personalities came to
dominate the weaker members of the group,
1680
01:54:22,900 --> 01:54:26,020
but the rules
of the self-organising system
1681
01:54:26,020 --> 01:54:29,940
refused to allow any organised
opposition to this oppression.
1682
01:54:33,180 --> 01:54:37,220
The original idea was
very positive indeed.
1683
01:54:37,220 --> 01:54:41,700
It was to create
an egalitarian society
1684
01:54:41,700 --> 01:54:47,060
in which everyone would both be free
to be themselves
1685
01:54:47,060 --> 01:54:53,580
and also be able to contribute to the
group in a really positive way.
1686
01:54:53,580 --> 01:54:59,860
But the very rules that kind of set
up this egalitarian group
1687
01:54:59,860 --> 01:55:04,460
resulted in the opposite
of the dream.
1688
01:55:04,460 --> 01:55:09,500
They resulted in creating
a hierarchical structure
1689
01:55:09,500 --> 01:55:13,580
in which some could be
dominant over others
1690
01:55:13,580 --> 01:55:22,300
because everyone is not equally
powerful in their voice against one other person.
1691
01:55:26,740 --> 01:55:30,180
In the communes, what were supposed
to be systems of negotiations
1692
01:55:30,180 --> 01:55:34,300
between equal individuals
often turned into vicious bullying.
1693
01:55:36,540 --> 01:55:43,620
In practice, these would be
20 and 30 minute hazing sessions
1694
01:55:43,620 --> 01:55:48,460
that were, um...quite awful
to experience
1695
01:55:48,460 --> 01:55:55,740
and usually were met by silence
with the rest of one's peers,
1696
01:55:55,740 --> 01:56:00,540
so there wasn't any, "Hey, lay off.
He's an OK guy," or anything like that.
1697
01:56:00,540 --> 01:56:03,500
There were no supportive comments.
1698
01:56:03,500 --> 01:56:09,180
The rule was "travel in your
own country", which means "shut up, listen and observe".
1699
01:56:09,180 --> 01:56:11,380
There was fear, actually,
1700
01:56:11,380 --> 01:56:18,220
because the people who were more
dominating and had more power could make you ...
1701
01:56:18,220 --> 01:56:22,380
There was anger.
1702
01:56:22,380 --> 01:56:26,340
There was constantly a background
of fear in the house.
1703
01:56:26,340 --> 01:56:33,820
It was like a virus running
in the background, so that... like Spyware.
1704
01:56:33,820 --> 01:56:37,020
You know it's there, but you
don't know how to get rid of it.
1705
01:56:38,820 --> 01:56:42,300
The failure of the commune movement
and the fate of the revolutions
1706
01:56:42,300 --> 01:56:46,260
show the limitations of
the self-organising model.
1707
01:56:46,260 --> 01:56:52,260
It cannot deal with the central
dynamic forces of human society - politics and power.
1708
01:56:53,860 --> 01:56:58,940
The hippies took up the idea of
a network society because they were disillusioned with politics.
1709
01:57:00,500 --> 01:57:04,260
They believed that this alternative
way of ordering the world was good
1710
01:57:04,260 --> 01:57:08,260
because it was based
on the underlying order of nature.
1711
01:57:08,260 --> 01:57:10,660
But this was a fantasy.
1712
01:57:10,660 --> 01:57:17,700
In reality, what they adopted
was an idea taken from the cold and logical world of the machines.
1713
01:57:19,220 --> 01:57:23,420
Now, in our age, we are all
disillusioned with politics
1714
01:57:23,420 --> 01:57:29,260
and this machine organising
principle has risen up to become the ideology of our age.
1715
01:57:30,780 --> 01:57:35,500
But what we are discovering
is that if we see ourselves as components in a system,
1716
01:57:35,500 --> 01:57:39,660
that it is very difficult
to change the world.
1717
01:57:39,660 --> 01:57:43,500
It is a very good way of
organising things, even rebellions,
1718
01:57:43,500 --> 01:57:48,540
but it offers no ideas
about what comes next.
1719
01:57:48,540 --> 01:57:54,900
And just like in the communes,
it leaves us helpless in the face of those already in power in the world.
1720
01:57:57,460 --> 01:58:03,220
Next week's programme will show how
we have reconciled ourselves to this voluntary sacrifice of power
1721
01:58:03,220 --> 01:58:07,940
by coming to believe
that WE are nothing more than machines ourselves.
1722
01:58:58,240 --> 01:59:05,280
This programme contains scenes which
some viewers may find disturbing
1723
01:59:15,760 --> 01:59:17,800
When I see you alone
1724
01:59:17,800 --> 01:59:20,920
I see what's in your mind
1725
01:59:20,920 --> 01:59:22,880
You love me, yes, you do
1726
01:59:22,880 --> 01:59:25,560
You don't need to tell me
1727
01:59:25,560 --> 01:59:27,920
I know you love me most
1728
01:59:27,920 --> 01:59:30,520
No-one else take my place
1729
01:59:30,520 --> 01:59:32,520
You need me, yes, you do
1730
01:59:32,520 --> 01:59:35,320
Forever and ever
1731
01:59:36,440 --> 01:59:40,720
We are in love, baby love child
1732
01:59:40,720 --> 01:59:45,280
I take you so high,
groovy love child
1733
01:59:45,280 --> 01:59:50,160
Give me a kiss, baby love child
1734
01:59:50,160 --> 01:59:51,840
Do it again.
1735
01:59:56,240 --> 02:00:00,400
At the beginning of 2000, one of
the world's most famous scientists
1736
02:00:00,400 --> 02:00:01,840
flew from London to the Congo.
1737
02:00:05,440 --> 02:00:07,720
He was a British biologist
called Bill Hamilton.
1738
02:00:09,520 --> 02:00:11,880
Hamilton went to Kisangani.
1739
02:00:12,880 --> 02:00:15,200
Once upon a time,
it had been called Stanleyville.
1740
02:00:15,200 --> 02:00:17,920
Now it was one of the most
dangerous places on Earth.
1741
02:00:17,920 --> 02:00:20,560
GUNFIRE
1742
02:00:20,560 --> 02:00:23,360
It was full of armed militias,
all killing each other
1743
02:00:23,360 --> 02:00:26,560
to get their hands on precious
minerals in mines around Kisangani.
1744
02:00:28,080 --> 02:00:32,000
One of the most precious was a
mineral called Columbite Tantalite,
1745
02:00:32,000 --> 02:00:35,040
otherwise known as Coltan.
It was an essential component
1746
02:00:35,040 --> 02:00:40,480
in all new digital machines -
mobiles, laptops and games consoles.
1747
02:00:41,440 --> 02:00:43,800
And its price around
the world was soaring.
1748
02:00:45,120 --> 02:00:49,000
Part of this was due to the coming
launch of Sony's PlayStation 2.
1749
02:00:55,520 --> 02:00:59,040
PlayStation 2. Because of demand
in the United States and Japan,
1750
02:00:59,040 --> 02:01:02,200
it's thought some of our kids
could miss out this Christmas.
1751
02:01:04,000 --> 02:01:06,480
But Hamilton didn't care
about any of this.
1752
02:01:06,480 --> 02:01:10,480
He ignored the war going on around
him because he was convinced that
1753
02:01:10,480 --> 02:01:14,680
human beings were killing each other
in a completely different way.
1754
02:01:14,680 --> 02:01:17,800
He believed that AIDS
had been caused 50 years before
1755
02:01:17,800 --> 02:01:21,560
by experiments carried out
by American scientists
1756
02:01:21,560 --> 02:01:23,640
in the jungle around Kisangani.
1757
02:01:25,480 --> 02:01:29,800
And to prove this, he had come
to collect chimpanzee faeces.
1758
02:01:34,160 --> 02:01:40,520
Surrounded by the fighting, Hamilton
doggedly collected the chimp excrement from the forest floor.
1759
02:01:40,520 --> 02:01:43,640
But then, one day,
he caught malaria.
1760
02:01:45,160 --> 02:01:49,840
He refused to take anti-malaria
pills and instead took an aspirin.
1761
02:01:51,400 --> 02:01:54,960
But the aspirin lodged in his gut
and caused a haemorrhage...
1762
02:01:56,720 --> 02:01:58,280
..that killed him.
1763
02:02:02,240 --> 02:02:05,840
But even as he died,
Hamilton knew he would live forever.
1764
02:02:06,840 --> 02:02:11,920
Because he had shown that
human beings are really just self-replicating machines,
1765
02:02:11,920 --> 02:02:17,760
like computers, whose function is
to transmit a vital code across time
1766
02:02:17,760 --> 02:02:20,080
that will live throughout eternity.
1767
02:02:21,960 --> 02:02:26,480
Meanwhile, the chimp faeces
waited at Nairobi airport for someone to come and claim it.
1768
02:02:28,360 --> 02:02:31,280
And everyone got
their mobile upgrades,
1769
02:02:31,280 --> 02:02:34,160
their new laptops
and their PlayStation 2.
1770
02:02:34,160 --> 02:02:36,320
CHEERING
1771
02:02:37,320 --> 02:02:39,840
I close my eyes
1772
02:02:42,560 --> 02:02:45,440
Then I drift away
1773
02:02:46,600 --> 02:02:50,360
Into the magic night
1774
02:02:50,360 --> 02:02:53,920
I softly say
1775
02:02:54,920 --> 02:02:58,240
A silent prayer
1776
02:02:59,240 --> 02:03:03,200
Like dreamers do
1777
02:03:04,200 --> 02:03:08,400
Then I fall asleep to dream
1778
02:03:08,400 --> 02:03:12,320
My dreams of you
1779
02:03:14,280 --> 02:03:17,080
In dreams
1780
02:03:17,080 --> 02:03:18,800
I walk
1781
02:03:18,800 --> 02:03:20,120
With you
1782
02:03:23,520 --> 02:03:25,880
In dreams
1783
02:03:25,880 --> 02:03:28,680
I talk to you
1784
02:03:31,840 --> 02:03:36,640
In dreams you're mine
1785
02:03:36,640 --> 02:03:40,400
All of the time
1786
02:03:40,400 --> 02:03:46,040
We're together in dreams...
1787
02:03:46,040 --> 02:03:48,800
And here in the lower house
of the Congo Parliament,
1788
02:03:48,800 --> 02:03:52,560
the Members of Parliament
here are discussing,
1789
02:03:52,560 --> 02:03:58,120
have met to discuss whether Mr
Kasavubu or Mr Lumumba's government
1790
02:03:58,120 --> 02:04:00,600
is the authority in the Congo.
1791
02:04:00,600 --> 02:04:03,040
Their procedure is extremely chaotic.
1792
02:04:03,040 --> 02:04:06,440
Over probably about
two thirds of them are here.
1793
02:04:06,440 --> 02:04:09,880
And they're waiting, I think,
to hear Mr Lumumba speak.
1794
02:04:09,880 --> 02:04:14,520
And that's Mr Lumumba, sitting second
from the left, among his ministers.
1795
02:04:15,480 --> 02:04:19,280
For almost 80 years,
the Congo had been ruled by Belgium.
1796
02:04:19,280 --> 02:04:22,040
But in 1960, it became independent.
1797
02:04:23,040 --> 02:04:26,520
Its first Prime Minister
was Patrice Lumumba.
1798
02:04:26,520 --> 02:04:29,760
He held out an heroic vision
of a new independent Africa.
1799
02:04:31,880 --> 02:04:36,000
But the country was completely
unprepared for self-government.
1800
02:04:36,000 --> 02:04:38,240
Within weeks
it collapsed into chaos.
1801
02:04:40,840 --> 02:04:43,880
The Congo was central
to the modern world
1802
02:04:43,880 --> 02:04:47,720
because hidden in its forests were
an extraordinary range of minerals.
1803
02:04:47,720 --> 02:04:50,400
The uranium for the atom bombs
exploded over Japan
1804
02:04:50,400 --> 02:04:54,680
came from the Congo, while
its vast reserves of copper were
1805
02:04:54,680 --> 02:04:58,760
crucial for the new electronic
systems and computers
1806
02:04:58,760 --> 02:05:00,360
that ran the Cold War.
1807
02:05:00,360 --> 02:05:04,520
And the old colonial towns now
became battlegrounds where rebels
1808
02:05:04,520 --> 02:05:09,160
and soldiers loyal to Lumumba fought
for control of the precious mines.
1809
02:05:09,160 --> 02:05:12,680
It's an incredible atmosphere here
at night in Elisabethville.
1810
02:05:12,680 --> 02:05:16,880
It's the atmosphere
of a wartime air-raid, in some ways.
1811
02:05:16,880 --> 02:05:18,560
Yet there's no blackout.
1812
02:05:18,560 --> 02:05:23,120
The aerial attacks by the canons of
the Canberras are done in daylight.
1813
02:05:23,120 --> 02:05:26,640
Some of the shops,
most of them no longer operating,
1814
02:05:26,640 --> 02:05:28,680
keep their window lights on.
1815
02:05:29,680 --> 02:05:32,360
Another mortar bomb falls nearby.
1816
02:05:34,520 --> 02:05:39,080
The Americans were worried
that Lumumba would ally with the Soviet Union.
1817
02:05:39,080 --> 02:05:43,080
So they and the Belgians
helped to organise a coup.
1818
02:05:43,080 --> 02:05:47,040
Lumumba was kidnapped
by rebels from the mining areas.
1819
02:05:47,040 --> 02:05:51,920
He was taken into the forests of the
Eastern Congo where he was killed
1820
02:05:51,920 --> 02:05:54,360
and his body dissolved in acid.
1821
02:05:58,400 --> 02:06:01,120
The country collapsed
into violence and terror.
1822
02:06:02,600 --> 02:06:07,520
It would lead to the rise of one
of Africa's most corrupt dictators,
1823
02:06:07,520 --> 02:06:08,960
Mobutu Sese Seko.
1824
02:06:11,400 --> 02:06:17,680
But, amidst the chaos,
the western mining companies carried on their operations unhindered.
1825
02:06:17,680 --> 02:06:20,480
Above all, the giant Union Miniere.
1826
02:06:22,040 --> 02:06:28,160
A spokesman for Union Miniere is at
this moment presenting his report to the shareholders.
1827
02:06:28,160 --> 02:06:32,360
We have seen more than
500,000 people butchered,
1828
02:06:32,360 --> 02:06:36,200
mutilated, raped
and torn limb from limb.
1829
02:06:37,200 --> 02:06:40,960
Only this week we've read
of massacres in Stanleyville,
1830
02:06:40,960 --> 02:06:46,720
of mass shooting down and of unarmed
women and children being murdered.
1831
02:06:46,720 --> 02:06:52,560
Of the burning alive of 60 men, tied
together and soaked in petroleum.
1832
02:06:52,560 --> 02:06:56,240
Through all these events,
your directors and I
1833
02:06:56,240 --> 02:07:00,600
have asked ourselves
only one question -
1834
02:07:00,600 --> 02:07:06,280
to what extent will the operations
of YOUR company be affected?
1835
02:07:07,280 --> 02:07:11,560
We are pleased to record that
the events of this particular week,
1836
02:07:11,560 --> 02:07:16,000
taking place as they did in
Stanleyville province, over 1,000 miles from the main seat
1837
02:07:16,000 --> 02:07:21,040
of OUR mining operations, need not
in any way directly concern us.
1838
02:07:33,720 --> 02:07:37,320
Bill Hamilton was a solitary man.
1839
02:07:37,320 --> 02:07:40,040
In the early '60s
he lived alone in London,
1840
02:07:40,040 --> 02:07:43,520
obsessively studying
Darwin's theory of evolution.
1841
02:07:45,120 --> 02:07:49,640
Hamilton saw the world
through the prism of Darwin's ideas.
1842
02:07:49,640 --> 02:07:53,200
He believed that everything
could be explained by the desperate
1843
02:07:53,200 --> 02:07:58,480
struggle of all living things
to survive and pass on their genes to the next generation.
1844
02:08:00,240 --> 02:08:03,960
But as he watched the behaviour
of teeming masses of ants,
1845
02:08:03,960 --> 02:08:07,200
he realised that
there was a problem.
1846
02:08:07,200 --> 02:08:09,320
Why did some of them
offer themselves up
1847
02:08:09,320 --> 02:08:12,960
to the jaws of predators
in an apparently selfless sacrifice
1848
02:08:12,960 --> 02:08:14,840
to protect the rest of the group?
1849
02:08:17,360 --> 02:08:20,360
And why did some humans
behave in the same way?
1850
02:08:21,360 --> 02:08:23,280
What was in it for them?
1851
02:08:24,800 --> 02:08:27,880
Hamilton was convinced
that human behaviour
1852
02:08:27,880 --> 02:08:30,400
could be explained genetically.
1853
02:08:30,400 --> 02:08:34,480
But to prove this, he knew he had
to explain the puzzle of altruism.
1854
02:08:35,480 --> 02:08:39,920
He went to Waterloo Station.
He sat for hours on the platforms,
1855
02:08:39,920 --> 02:08:42,360
staring at other human beings
and thinking.
1856
02:08:43,640 --> 02:08:50,320
Hamilton would sit there
'in Waterloo Station in the evenings, a lonely man, looking at people.'
1857
02:08:50,320 --> 02:08:53,040
What this was enabling him to do
1858
02:08:53,040 --> 02:08:59,120
was, at some level, look at humans
as though they were another species.
1859
02:08:59,120 --> 02:09:02,520
As though they were ants
and he was not part of this.
1860
02:09:02,520 --> 02:09:06,360
So, although his concern
very much is with humans,
1861
02:09:06,360 --> 02:09:10,800
at some level he's able to take
the emotion out, if you like.
1862
02:09:12,920 --> 02:09:16,240
He's looking for patterns,
he's looking for ways
1863
02:09:16,240 --> 02:09:20,040
to make sense of all these people
that he sees around him.
1864
02:09:20,040 --> 02:09:23,320
The lovers that he sees
kissing and then parting,
1865
02:09:23,320 --> 02:09:26,000
the person he sees
dashing to the train.
1866
02:09:27,920 --> 02:09:31,960
Even the person who approaches him
to go off to the public lavatory.
1867
02:09:31,960 --> 02:09:34,840
These are all different individuals.
1868
02:09:34,840 --> 02:09:38,680
He is of their species,
but he's not of their species.
1869
02:09:41,000 --> 02:09:43,040
Then, at the end of 1963,
1870
02:09:43,040 --> 02:09:47,240
Hamilton suddenly realised
what he was actually looking at.
1871
02:09:48,240 --> 02:09:52,680
He looked through the skin and bone
and saw something inside that was
1872
02:09:52,680 --> 02:09:56,840
much more powerful and important
than our individual identities -
1873
02:09:56,840 --> 02:09:58,680
our coded genes.
1874
02:09:59,680 --> 02:10:03,560
And when he looked at the world
from the genes' point of view
1875
02:10:03,560 --> 02:10:07,120
he saw that human beings
were just temporary carriers
1876
02:10:07,120 --> 02:10:11,320
that allowed the genes
to pass on copies of themselves and live forever.
1877
02:10:13,200 --> 02:10:17,280
Hamilton was no longer
thinking like a human being.
1878
02:10:17,280 --> 02:10:19,960
He was thinking like a gene.
1879
02:10:19,960 --> 02:10:22,240
And genes were not like people.
1880
02:10:23,240 --> 02:10:27,080
They were like machines,
tiny, calculating engines
1881
02:10:27,080 --> 02:10:30,120
that could work out
the mathematically best outcome.
1882
02:10:31,440 --> 02:10:36,800
And that explained altruism.
A gene would destroy itself if,
1883
02:10:36,800 --> 02:10:41,080
by doing that, it would let more
related copies of itself survive.
1884
02:10:42,600 --> 02:10:46,360
I think that he really felt
that he was seeing a pattern
1885
02:10:46,360 --> 02:10:50,120
to the way the world works
that others weren't seeing.
1886
02:10:50,120 --> 02:10:54,720
This is how he really
truly functioned as a man,
1887
02:10:54,720 --> 02:10:59,040
almost from a different planet,
looking at humankind.
1888
02:11:00,120 --> 02:11:03,480
Absolutely convinced
that there was some force,
1889
02:11:03,480 --> 02:11:08,000
hidden from the rest of us, which
motivated them, which drove them.
1890
02:11:58,680 --> 02:12:02,120
We are now on our way
to the country of the giants.
1891
02:12:02,120 --> 02:12:05,720
Behind this tremendous barrier
of volcanic mountains, there lived
1892
02:12:05,720 --> 02:12:09,680
a most mysterious people,
a race of seven-foot giants.
1893
02:12:11,440 --> 02:12:15,560
Climbing again towards
the mysterious summit, now hidden in the clouds.
1894
02:12:16,560 --> 02:12:21,160
Well above the great trees,
a region seldom touched by sunshine.
1895
02:12:21,160 --> 02:12:24,520
Enchanted woods
full of ferns and moss.
1896
02:12:24,520 --> 02:12:29,280
It looks like the home
of fairies and goblins. But there is no life here.
1897
02:12:29,280 --> 02:12:33,120
Through these woods, an icy wind,
laden with fog and sleet,
1898
02:12:33,120 --> 02:12:35,160
ever blows.
1899
02:12:36,240 --> 02:12:38,160
The hills of Rwanda.
1900
02:12:39,440 --> 02:12:46,080
In the 1930s an intrepid Belgian,
Armand Denis, made films that told the western world about Africa.
1901
02:12:47,920 --> 02:12:53,280
But in Rwanda,
he helped to create a myth that would have terrifying consequences.
1902
02:12:54,800 --> 02:13:01,120
It said that the Tutsis
were a noble and intelligent race who had originally come from Egypt.
1903
02:13:01,120 --> 02:13:06,120
And that the Hutus were a separate
race of ignorant peasants.
1904
02:13:07,280 --> 02:13:10,760
A rich land discovered no-one knows
how long ago by tall, majestic men
1905
02:13:10,760 --> 02:13:14,800
who came from the north - perhaps
all the way from ancient Egypt -
1906
02:13:14,800 --> 02:13:19,080
to preserve here the civilisation
and beauty of another age.
1907
02:13:20,960 --> 02:13:23,800
The court dancers.
1908
02:13:23,800 --> 02:13:27,360
When the giants arrived
in Rwanda, they found it already thickly settled.
1909
02:13:27,360 --> 02:13:32,720
But so great was the superiority
of these tall people from the north that, although outnumbered 1,000
1910
02:13:32,720 --> 02:13:38,040
to one, they established complete
domination over the mountain tribes which inhabited the region.
1911
02:13:38,040 --> 02:13:39,960
The blacks became their slaves.
1912
02:13:41,480 --> 02:13:46,000
But how superior their flowing
rhythm, compared with the crude shuffles of the forest tribes.
1913
02:13:47,680 --> 02:13:50,680
In reality, there was no evidence
for this at all.
1914
02:13:52,120 --> 02:13:55,640
The Tutsis were a ruling elite,
but the two groups had always shared
1915
02:13:55,640 --> 02:13:59,360
the same land and did not see
each other as separate races
1916
02:13:59,360 --> 02:14:02,640
and many Hutus shared equally
in government.
1917
02:14:04,080 --> 02:14:07,040
But the Belgians
who ran Rwanda took the myth
1918
02:14:07,040 --> 02:14:08,600
and used it ruthlessly.
1919
02:14:11,160 --> 02:14:14,440
They brought in scientists
to prove it biologically.
1920
02:14:14,440 --> 02:14:18,080
They measured skulls and said
that the Tutsis had larger brains
1921
02:14:18,080 --> 02:14:20,840
and so were the natural rulers.
1922
02:14:20,840 --> 02:14:23,880
They then made each group
carry racial identity cards
1923
02:14:23,880 --> 02:14:27,760
and created a segregated system
in which the Tutsis ruled
1924
02:14:27,760 --> 02:14:30,640
the Hutus with a brutal arrogance,
1925
02:14:30,640 --> 02:14:33,400
encouraged by their Belgian masters.
1926
02:14:35,760 --> 02:14:38,520
But then, at the end of the 1950s,
the Belgians decided
1927
02:14:38,520 --> 02:14:42,680
to give independence to Rwanda
and a terrible thing happened.
1928
02:14:45,400 --> 02:14:48,960
These are there few film fragments
that record the events.
1929
02:14:48,960 --> 02:14:51,800
They show hundreds
of Tutsis sheltering
1930
02:14:51,800 --> 02:14:54,440
from the onslaught
of a massacre by the Hutus.
1931
02:14:56,360 --> 02:14:59,440
But the massacres had begun
for the strangest of reasons.
1932
02:15:00,800 --> 02:15:02,640
As independence approached,
1933
02:15:02,640 --> 02:15:06,360
liberals high up in the Belgian
colonial administration
1934
02:15:06,360 --> 02:15:09,880
had encouraged the Hutus to rebel
against their Tutsi overlords.
1935
02:15:11,400 --> 02:15:15,560
They had done this because they felt
guilty about their imperial past.
1936
02:15:15,560 --> 02:15:19,320
They believed the right thing to do
now was to promote self-government,
1937
02:15:19,320 --> 02:15:24,200
to make amends and help the Hutus
become free individuals.
1938
02:15:26,160 --> 02:15:28,960
But because the Hutus
had been taught that the Tutsis
1939
02:15:28,960 --> 02:15:31,600
were an alien race,
the rebellion quickly turned
1940
02:15:31,600 --> 02:15:35,840
into an orgy of revenge
which the Belgians couldn't stop.
1941
02:15:37,160 --> 02:15:40,200
The myth that they had created
had run out of control.
1942
02:15:43,840 --> 02:15:46,280
Today, we received more news
1943
02:15:46,280 --> 02:15:49,680
and more evidence of the horrible
events going on in central Africa.
1944
02:15:49,680 --> 02:15:52,560
This time it concerns Rwanda.
1945
02:15:52,560 --> 02:15:55,200
It became independent
when Belgian control
1946
02:15:55,200 --> 02:15:58,000
was suddenly withdrawn in 1962.
1947
02:15:59,160 --> 02:16:01,680
For years, a minority tribe,
the Watutsi,
1948
02:16:01,680 --> 02:16:05,400
had been supported by the Belgians
as the local rulers,
1949
02:16:05,400 --> 02:16:09,480
although they represented
only 15% of the population.
1950
02:16:09,480 --> 02:16:14,440
In 1959, Belgium switched her support
to the majority tribe, the Bahutu,
1951
02:16:14,440 --> 02:16:17,760
who later seized
on the independence of the country
1952
02:16:17,760 --> 02:16:19,400
as a chance of revenge.
1953
02:16:19,400 --> 02:16:22,760
No-one knows how many Watutsi
they've slaughtered.
1954
02:16:22,760 --> 02:16:27,960
Now, this lady took part in getting
together this fragment of film
1955
02:16:27,960 --> 02:16:31,360
which is the only film record
of any of the horrors of which people
1956
02:16:31,360 --> 02:16:33,760
have been talking
from the Rwanda territory.
1957
02:16:33,760 --> 02:16:38,360
What we are looking at now
is a mission where a large number
1958
02:16:38,360 --> 02:16:40,800
of the Watutsi people took shelter.
1959
02:16:40,800 --> 02:16:42,880
Where all of these people,
at whom we're looking -
1960
02:16:42,880 --> 02:16:46,640
they look happy enough on your film
now - where they in fact all safe?
1961
02:16:46,640 --> 02:16:48,480
No, they weren't safe at all.
1962
02:16:48,480 --> 02:16:51,320
It doesn't matter if they were men,
women or children.
1963
02:16:51,320 --> 02:16:53,480
They killed everyone who was Tutsi.
1964
02:16:56,400 --> 02:17:00,000
6,000 of them fished out
of one of the rivers.
1965
02:17:00,000 --> 02:17:02,080
One department, 10,000.
1966
02:17:02,080 --> 02:17:05,600
That's like one county
in this country. 10,000 dead.
1967
02:17:05,600 --> 02:17:08,040
10,000 dead, yes.
1968
02:17:08,040 --> 02:17:11,000
Are you sure that these stories
are true of the massacre?
1969
02:17:11,000 --> 02:17:14,360
There's no doubt about this.
There's no doubt about this.
1970
02:17:14,360 --> 02:17:18,240
Have you any idea how many of the
Watutsi have been killed altogether?
1971
02:17:18,240 --> 02:17:21,720
Altogether,
it's very difficult to estimate
1972
02:17:21,720 --> 02:17:24,520
because all this was organised
1973
02:17:24,520 --> 02:17:28,240
and supposed to be unknown, you see.
1974
02:18:08,720 --> 02:18:13,960
In 1967, a strange and brilliant man
came to London from America.
1975
02:18:13,960 --> 02:18:16,680
He was called George Price.
1976
02:18:18,680 --> 02:18:20,280
By chance, in a library,
1977
02:18:20,280 --> 02:18:24,400
Price discovered a scientific paper
written by Bill Hamilton
1978
02:18:24,400 --> 02:18:28,000
It was full of equations that show
that human goodness and altruism
1979
02:18:28,000 --> 02:18:32,600
were really survival strategies
devised by our genes.
1980
02:18:32,600 --> 02:18:35,640
It had been ignored
by the scientific establishment.
1981
02:18:37,640 --> 02:18:41,800
As Price looked at the equations, he
had a sudden shock of recognition.
1982
02:18:42,520 --> 02:18:45,040
He realised that
what he was looking at
1983
02:18:45,040 --> 02:18:48,720
was a description of machines
he already understood -
1984
02:18:48,720 --> 02:18:50,320
computers.
1985
02:18:51,320 --> 02:18:55,080
Price had worked originally as
a chemist on the Manhattan Project,
1986
02:18:55,080 --> 02:18:59,480
but then in the 1950s, he had
gone to IBM, where he helped design
1987
02:18:59,480 --> 02:19:02,240
the graphics
for early mainframe computers.
1988
02:19:04,080 --> 02:19:06,440
Price was an obsessive rationalist
1989
02:19:06,440 --> 02:19:10,680
and in his spare time, he became
a freelance science journalist
1990
02:19:10,680 --> 02:19:15,120
and he specialised in attacking the
myths and superstitions in society.
1991
02:19:16,800 --> 02:19:20,800
Because he believed that rationality
could explain everything.
1992
02:19:21,800 --> 02:19:25,360
It was something that Daddy
would do. He would, um...
1993
02:19:25,360 --> 02:19:27,600
you know, take a subject...
1994
02:19:27,600 --> 02:19:31,880
He was always attacking sacred cows
in society and he would take
1995
02:19:31,880 --> 02:19:36,240
a subject and just explore it
in a very rational way.
1996
02:19:36,240 --> 02:19:41,560
And things other scientists,
you know, wouldn't deal with,
1997
02:19:41,560 --> 02:19:43,280
he would just explore,
1998
02:19:43,280 --> 02:19:47,160
and was quite fearless
in his scientific endeavours.
1999
02:19:47,160 --> 02:19:50,640
He would go where
most people wouldn't.
2000
02:19:52,760 --> 02:19:56,840
Above all, Price loved the cold
logic of mathematics and computers.
2001
02:19:57,840 --> 02:20:00,760
He believed that computers
gave scientists like him
2002
02:20:00,760 --> 02:20:04,560
a new power to analyse the world
in a completely rational way.
2003
02:20:06,080 --> 02:20:09,640
He wrote an article proposing
that America could mathematically
2004
02:20:09,640 --> 02:20:13,240
measure unhappiness levels
among populations in the world.
2005
02:20:13,800 --> 02:20:17,000
This would allow them to spot
where communism might take root
2006
02:20:17,000 --> 02:20:18,080
and so prevent it.
2007
02:20:21,760 --> 02:20:23,880
Price's ideas were
part of a powerful belief
2008
02:20:23,880 --> 02:20:27,320
that had grown up in the electronic
laboratories of the Cold War -
2009
02:20:27,320 --> 02:20:30,680
that computers could be
the salvation of humanity.
2010
02:20:33,160 --> 02:20:36,240
The godfather of this belief
was the man who had done more
2011
02:20:36,240 --> 02:20:39,160
than anyone to create
the modern digital computer,
2012
02:20:39,160 --> 02:20:43,080
the mathematician John Von Neumann,
who had also built the H-bomb.
2013
02:20:43,080 --> 02:20:45,920
Johnny von Neumann
enjoyed thinking...
2014
02:20:49,080 --> 02:20:53,200
..in the clear and complete manner
of mathematicians,
2015
02:20:53,200 --> 02:20:54,840
in every field.
2016
02:20:54,840 --> 02:20:58,920
This also explains his effectiveness
2017
02:20:58,920 --> 02:21:02,080
in connection
with computing machines.
2018
02:21:02,080 --> 02:21:08,360
Because computing machines
apply logical processes to fields,
2019
02:21:08,360 --> 02:21:14,360
not only mathematics, but to others
as yet untouched by the logical part.
2020
02:21:16,400 --> 02:21:20,920
And it is very significant
that this revolution,
2021
02:21:20,920 --> 02:21:23,920
the revolution
of the electronic brains,
2022
02:21:23,920 --> 02:21:26,680
was practically initiated
by Jonny Von Neumann.
2023
02:21:27,960 --> 02:21:32,120
And when, in 1967, Price found
William Hamilton's paper,
2024
02:21:32,120 --> 02:21:36,560
he realised that what Hamilton had
discovered was a new rational way
2025
02:21:36,560 --> 02:21:40,040
of looking at human beings
and their behaviour.
2026
02:21:42,760 --> 02:21:46,960
They were simply soft machines,
controlled by on-board computers.
2027
02:21:49,480 --> 02:21:53,280
Price took Hamilton's mathematics
and developed it.
2028
02:21:53,280 --> 02:21:55,120
But as he did so,
2029
02:21:55,120 --> 02:21:58,600
he realised that the equations
also worked in reverse.
2030
02:21:58,600 --> 02:22:00,840
That it was not just logical
to be good,
2031
02:22:00,840 --> 02:22:03,720
it was also logical to be spiteful.
2032
02:22:05,120 --> 02:22:07,120
It made sense to kill yourself,
2033
02:22:07,120 --> 02:22:12,160
if in the process you also killed
people distantly related to you
2034
02:22:12,160 --> 02:22:14,880
and allowed those
closely related to survive.
2035
02:22:20,320 --> 02:22:25,320
Price's mathematics explained
murder, warfare and even genocide
2036
02:22:25,320 --> 02:22:27,440
as possibly rational strategies
2037
02:22:27,440 --> 02:22:29,880
for the genes
controlling your behaviour.
2038
02:22:34,080 --> 02:22:38,600
Well, because it meant that you could
have genes that were...
2039
02:22:38,600 --> 02:22:42,320
evolved that were coded for...
2040
02:22:42,320 --> 02:22:43,960
murdering people.
2041
02:22:43,960 --> 02:22:47,800
Such a gene, even if it was bad
for the possessor of the gene,
2042
02:22:47,800 --> 02:22:51,840
as long as it was worse for distantly
related people, it could evolve
2043
02:22:51,840 --> 02:22:55,320
and we might be genetically
programmed to be murderers.
2044
02:22:55,320 --> 02:22:58,720
This was actually
what George had been wondering
2045
02:22:58,720 --> 02:23:02,520
and he sort of proved that in
a mathematical sense, it could exist.
2046
02:23:05,240 --> 02:23:08,520
It grew out of Hamilton's theory
because Hamilton had seen
2047
02:23:08,520 --> 02:23:12,200
that you could harm yourself
as long as you helped your relatives.
2048
02:23:12,800 --> 02:23:16,880
But this was different, you could
harm yourself as long as it harmed
2049
02:23:16,880 --> 02:23:21,160
distantly-related people
that we had...genetic ways
2050
02:23:21,160 --> 02:23:25,600
of recognising our closer relatives
and our more distant relatives
2051
02:23:25,600 --> 02:23:29,160
and we were programmed to hate
and kill our more distant relatives.
2052
02:23:29,160 --> 02:23:31,440
These are the implications
of the theory.
2053
02:23:34,800 --> 02:23:36,400
Then who would that help?
2054
02:23:36,400 --> 02:23:38,200
The gene, only the gene.
2055
02:23:38,200 --> 02:23:41,880
It's the gene's-eye point of view,
it would really only help the genes.
2056
02:23:41,880 --> 02:23:46,080
The genes would grow
in the population. That's what this was all about.
2057
02:23:50,600 --> 02:23:53,520
Price showed his equations
to Hamilton.
2058
02:23:53,520 --> 02:23:57,960
Hamilton was fascinated and together
they developed their theory.
2059
02:23:57,960 --> 02:24:00,400
It would become known
as the Selfish Gene.
2060
02:24:01,520 --> 02:24:03,280
They also became close friends.
2061
02:24:05,320 --> 02:24:08,720
What Price had done was
an incredible piece of mathematics.
2062
02:24:08,720 --> 02:24:13,560
As Von Neumann had predicted,
what Price has also done
2063
02:24:13,560 --> 02:24:17,000
was bring rationality
and a clear logic of mathematics
2064
02:24:17,000 --> 02:24:20,960
into a new field,
into the heart of being human.
2065
02:24:20,960 --> 02:24:23,160
But with the strangest
of consequences.
2066
02:24:25,840 --> 02:24:28,360
20 years before,
as computers were being developed,
2067
02:24:28,360 --> 02:24:32,480
Von Neumann had dreamt of the future
where machines would be able
2068
02:24:32,480 --> 02:24:34,200
to replicate themselves.
2069
02:24:34,200 --> 02:24:37,120
He had written out a description
of what would be needed
2070
02:24:37,120 --> 02:24:41,640
for what he called self-reproducing
automata to be invented.
2071
02:24:43,960 --> 02:24:47,200
The extraordinary breakthrough
that Price and Hamilton had made
2072
02:24:47,200 --> 02:24:49,840
was to discover
that self-reproducing automata
2073
02:24:49,840 --> 02:24:51,600
didn't have to be invented.
2074
02:24:53,520 --> 02:24:56,760
They were already here,
they were us.
2075
02:25:00,080 --> 02:25:03,160
The equation has had
enormous implications
2076
02:25:03,160 --> 02:25:05,880
because if everything we did,
whether good or bad,
2077
02:25:05,880 --> 02:25:09,680
was actually a rational strategy
computed by the codes inside us,
2078
02:25:09,680 --> 02:25:13,120
then religion with
its moral guidance was irrelevant.
2079
02:25:14,520 --> 02:25:17,760
And it demolished the Enlightenment
idea that human beings
2080
02:25:17,760 --> 02:25:19,800
were above the rest of nature.
2081
02:25:21,040 --> 02:25:24,800
In reality, we were no different
from all the other animals.
2082
02:25:26,920 --> 02:25:29,680
All this had a very strange effect
on George Price,
2083
02:25:29,680 --> 02:25:31,800
the convinced rationalist.
2084
02:25:31,800 --> 02:25:34,560
He decided that the discovery
was so powerful,
2085
02:25:34,560 --> 02:25:37,200
it must have been a gift from God.
2086
02:25:37,200 --> 02:25:41,320
But he feels that this breakthrough
could only have been given
2087
02:25:41,320 --> 02:25:42,600
to him by...
2088
02:25:44,600 --> 02:25:46,360
..God.
2089
02:25:46,360 --> 02:25:48,160
What breakthrough?
2090
02:25:48,160 --> 02:25:52,560
Well, discovering, like,
what he quantified altruism.
2091
02:25:52,560 --> 02:25:55,560
He felt that he was...
when he looked at something
2092
02:25:55,560 --> 02:25:58,800
and he was able to see it
in such a simple way...
2093
02:25:58,800 --> 02:26:00,120
He felt that...
2094
02:26:00,120 --> 02:26:02,040
..he felt it had been a gift
2095
02:26:02,040 --> 02:26:07,680
and the only way he could interpret
that was because of a gift of God.
2096
02:26:07,680 --> 02:26:11,320
But the equations actually
showed God did not exist.
2097
02:26:11,320 --> 02:26:14,160
Hmm, that is a dichotomy.
2098
02:26:22,320 --> 02:26:26,520
At the same time on the top
of a mountain in the eastern Congo,
2099
02:26:26,520 --> 02:26:29,680
another American was setting out
to prove that human beings
2100
02:26:29,680 --> 02:26:32,520
were far closer to other animals
than they imagined.
2101
02:26:33,720 --> 02:26:38,440
She was Diane Fossey and she spent
her days alone, watching gorillas.
2102
02:26:40,680 --> 02:26:44,840
Fossey's aim was to show how
connected we were to the gorillas.
2103
02:26:45,920 --> 02:26:49,520
She was part of a movement
among biologists to prove
2104
02:26:49,520 --> 02:26:52,960
Darwin's theory of evolution,
not just through fossils,
2105
02:26:52,960 --> 02:26:55,520
but by observing
the behaviour of the primates.
2106
02:26:57,320 --> 02:27:00,080
They wanted to show
that gorillas and chimps
2107
02:27:00,080 --> 02:27:03,600
were not just blind brutes
but complex animals,
2108
02:27:03,600 --> 02:27:05,560
intimately connected to us.
2109
02:27:10,720 --> 02:27:14,640
But just as Fossey began her work,
the human world below
2110
02:27:14,640 --> 02:27:19,640
began to descend into chaos, driven
by the forces of politics and power.
2111
02:27:21,560 --> 02:27:25,080
INDISTINCT CONVERSATION
2112
02:27:25,080 --> 02:27:27,000
This is the Congo.
2113
02:27:27,000 --> 02:27:30,400
This is the hottest place
in the capital of the Congo,
2114
02:27:30,400 --> 02:27:33,680
Kinshasa, tonight,
the nightclub St Helier.
2115
02:27:33,680 --> 02:27:38,000
I'm able to report that the jungle
bunnies at least are friendly.
2116
02:27:38,000 --> 02:27:40,720
MUSIC PLAYS
2117
02:27:46,000 --> 02:27:49,520
But this also is the Congo today.
2118
02:27:49,520 --> 02:27:53,000
Yet once more, the terrified
and injured men and women,
2119
02:27:53,000 --> 02:27:55,880
white and black,
are brought back in distress
2120
02:27:55,880 --> 02:28:00,360
by plane to the Congolese capital,
from the centre of the northeast,
2121
02:28:00,360 --> 02:28:02,840
Kisangani, the former Stanleyville.
2122
02:28:02,840 --> 02:28:06,880
In 1967,
a new war broke out in the Congo.
2123
02:28:06,880 --> 02:28:10,720
White mercenaries who supported
a rival of President Mobutu
2124
02:28:10,720 --> 02:28:12,440
were leading a rebellion.
2125
02:28:12,440 --> 02:28:16,680
Their aim was to create a separate
state out of the mineral-rich area
2126
02:28:16,680 --> 02:28:18,880
in the eastern part of the country.
2127
02:28:18,880 --> 02:28:24,400
Behind the scenes, they were
being supported by the western mining conglomerates.
2128
02:28:31,720 --> 02:28:33,360
But the rebellion
turned into horror.
2129
02:28:33,360 --> 02:28:35,480
As the mercenaries
fought their way into the town
2130
02:28:35,480 --> 02:28:37,520
of Bukavu on the Rwandan border,
2131
02:28:37,520 --> 02:28:41,880
they tortured and killed their
prisoners with extreme brutality.
2132
02:28:47,720 --> 02:28:52,720
You say you wanted to make them
suffer, how did you make them suffer?
2133
02:28:52,720 --> 02:28:56,400
Well, in the company we were
in, we took no prisoners.
2134
02:28:56,400 --> 02:28:58,480
If they did take one,
2135
02:28:58,480 --> 02:29:00,400
I had the pleasure of handling him.
2136
02:29:01,920 --> 02:29:03,640
And it was my pleasure.
2137
02:29:04,240 --> 02:29:06,120
What sort of things did you do?
2138
02:29:06,120 --> 02:29:08,440
I used to make them
torture stick a...
2139
02:29:08,440 --> 02:29:10,400
Stick a hot bayonet through him.
2140
02:29:12,480 --> 02:29:16,120
Stick him on
hot coals and cover him with mud.
2141
02:29:16,120 --> 02:29:18,880
Make the mud cake around it.
2142
02:29:18,880 --> 02:29:23,000
And just crack the mud off and stick
a red hot bandit into a human body
2143
02:29:23,000 --> 02:29:24,680
and make him walk with that.
2144
02:29:26,440 --> 02:29:31,000
Did you feel differently because
you were doing this to black men?
2145
02:29:32,520 --> 02:29:35,320
Could you have done it
as easily to a white man?
2146
02:29:35,320 --> 02:29:36,840
No, I don't think so.
2147
02:29:39,320 --> 02:29:44,680
Why? I just never had the
experience of killing a white man.
2148
02:29:44,680 --> 02:29:46,800
A black man is like an animal to me.
2149
02:30:01,560 --> 02:30:04,200
But then Mobutu's
forces counterattacked
2150
02:30:04,200 --> 02:30:06,080
and destroyed the rebellion.
2151
02:30:06,080 --> 02:30:10,800
The mercenaries either fled or
were captured, and then disappeared.
2152
02:30:10,800 --> 02:30:14,760
The mercenaries behaviour had
enraged the Congolese soldiers,
2153
02:30:14,760 --> 02:30:17,440
and they unleashed their
hatred on the Europeans.
2154
02:30:17,440 --> 02:30:21,600
And then in a raging temper with
all things and people European,
2155
02:30:21,600 --> 02:30:24,520
they went back into the town,
2156
02:30:24,520 --> 02:30:28,440
and they started smashing up
the European houses,
2157
02:30:28,440 --> 02:30:31,120
pillaging, looting and killing.
2158
02:30:31,120 --> 02:30:35,000
And then the Congolese
soldiers found Dian Fossey
2159
02:30:35,000 --> 02:30:36,640
watching the gorillas
on the mountain.
2160
02:30:38,440 --> 02:30:43,840
The soldiers detained her and took
her down to a military camp where she was imprisoned for two weeks.
2161
02:30:45,360 --> 02:30:48,360
What happened during
that time is uncertain.
2162
02:30:48,360 --> 02:30:52,840
Fossey told some people
that she gang-raped by the soldiers.
2163
02:30:52,840 --> 02:30:55,240
But to others she denied this.
2164
02:30:58,240 --> 02:31:01,920
But then she tricked the
soldiers and managed to escape.
2165
02:31:01,920 --> 02:31:04,640
And fled across the border.
2166
02:31:04,640 --> 02:31:09,480
But Fossey was still determined to
live with the gorillas, and within
2167
02:31:09,480 --> 02:31:13,080
weeks she created another camp
high up on another mountain.
2168
02:31:14,600 --> 02:31:18,560
"It is," she wrote, "as if I have
finally discovered paradise."
2169
02:31:20,680 --> 02:31:22,240
It was in Rwanda.
2170
02:31:25,040 --> 02:31:28,640
Fossey now retreated
from almost al human company.
2171
02:31:28,640 --> 02:31:31,600
She spent all her
time with the gorillas.
2172
02:31:31,600 --> 02:31:35,240
And to get closer to them,
she tried to behave like them.
2173
02:31:38,840 --> 02:31:43,680
To make the gorilla feel more
at ease, I imitated their feeding
2174
02:31:43,680 --> 02:31:48,480
activities by making the same type
of noise that they make
2175
02:31:48,480 --> 02:31:51,320
when they obtain a leaf or a stalk.
2176
02:31:51,320 --> 02:31:55,080
And since they've heard a sound like
this all their lives, to hear it from
2177
02:31:55,080 --> 02:31:58,680
a human couldn't help but
pacify them in some ways.
2178
02:32:00,840 --> 02:32:04,360
Fossey became obsessed by
protecting the gorillas.
2179
02:32:04,360 --> 02:32:07,160
She tried to create a world
where they would be perfectly safe,
2180
02:32:07,160 --> 02:32:11,040
not just from poachers,
but all human beings.
2181
02:32:11,040 --> 02:32:14,280
She patrolled the forest,
destroying the snares
2182
02:32:14,280 --> 02:32:17,800
that the local people
had set to catch small antelopes
2183
02:32:17,800 --> 02:32:20,080
because they might
hurt the gorillas.
2184
02:32:20,080 --> 02:32:23,000
And she began to
terrorise the local people.
2185
02:32:23,000 --> 02:32:26,240
She kidnapped them,
spat on them and hit them.
2186
02:32:26,240 --> 02:32:28,960
And sprayed them with tear gas.
2187
02:32:28,960 --> 02:32:31,480
She also put on a mask
and told them
2188
02:32:31,480 --> 02:32:34,480
that she was
casting black magic spells.
2189
02:32:37,320 --> 02:32:41,080
Fossey would never have
called the Africans animals
2190
02:32:41,080 --> 02:32:43,120
because she loved animals.
2191
02:32:43,120 --> 02:32:47,920
But she was following the tradition
of so many westerners in Africa.
2192
02:32:47,920 --> 02:32:51,320
Maltreating Africans in the
interest of a higher western ideal.
2193
02:32:52,840 --> 02:32:56,320
And the local people
began to hate her.
2194
02:33:30,520 --> 02:33:33,560
In 1973, George Price
decided to devote his life
2195
02:33:33,560 --> 02:33:35,800
to helping the homeless of London.
2196
02:33:37,720 --> 02:33:40,720
As a result of the equations he had
developed, Price had been given a
2197
02:33:40,720 --> 02:33:44,640
job in the genetics laboratory
of the University of London.
2198
02:33:44,640 --> 02:33:48,160
But he had also
converted to Christianity.
2199
02:33:48,160 --> 02:33:52,000
And he had done so
in an extreme way.
2200
02:33:52,000 --> 02:33:57,120
Price decided that he was going
to follow the teachings of Christ
2201
02:33:57,120 --> 02:33:59,440
as if they were an exact code.
2202
02:33:59,440 --> 02:34:05,680
He set out to help the
poor and destitute to give them all his worldly goods.
2203
02:34:05,680 --> 02:34:11,480
He also walked the streets,
offering the homeless a place to stay in his flat near Oxford Circus.
2204
02:34:11,480 --> 02:34:17,160
He was extraordinary.
He was like a saint, really.
2205
02:34:17,160 --> 02:34:21,720
He would give anyone
who needed anything anything he had.
2206
02:34:21,720 --> 02:34:25,920
I mean, at the end,
he would be in the park and if someone needed his shoes
2207
02:34:25,920 --> 02:34:29,280
he literally took off his
shoes and gave them his shoes.
2208
02:34:29,280 --> 02:34:30,800
He was barefoot in the park.
2209
02:34:30,800 --> 02:34:34,240
Give me a hand when I've crossed the
way. Give me a shoulder to cry on.
2210
02:34:46,120 --> 02:34:49,320
And then he started to take them
into his flat, which was very nice,
2211
02:34:49,320 --> 02:34:52,400
but they started stealing
from him like crazy.
2212
02:34:52,400 --> 02:34:55,160
I don't even think at one point
he had a warm coat,
2213
02:34:55,160 --> 02:34:57,480
that he'd given it
away to an alcoholic.
2214
02:34:57,480 --> 02:35:00,440
There was no artifice.
2215
02:35:00,440 --> 02:35:02,400
If he was going to be a Christian,
2216
02:35:02,400 --> 02:35:05,200
then he was
going to be a complete Christian
2217
02:35:05,200 --> 02:35:08,440
and he was going to give away all
his possessions to the needy.
2218
02:35:08,440 --> 02:35:10,520
And really help people.
2219
02:35:13,800 --> 02:35:17,080
William Hamilton became
desperately worried about Price.
2220
02:35:17,080 --> 02:35:23,120
He was convinced that his religious
belief was a mad superstition, and pleaded with Price to give up
2221
02:35:23,120 --> 02:35:27,920
trying to help the homeless
and do more work on genetics.
2222
02:35:27,920 --> 02:35:32,160
But others believed that Price had
been so shocked by the implication
2223
02:35:32,160 --> 02:35:33,960
of his and Hamilton's theory
2224
02:35:33,960 --> 02:35:37,680
that he was in some desperate
personal way trying to disprove it.
2225
02:35:40,840 --> 02:35:45,920
I think it's too easy to dismiss him
as insane, which many people want to.
2226
02:35:45,920 --> 02:35:49,400
He was taking control of
2227
02:35:49,400 --> 02:35:50,920
his genetic destiny.
2228
02:35:50,920 --> 02:35:57,200
He was sort of transcending his
genetic destiny in those actions.
2229
02:35:57,200 --> 02:36:00,520
In what way? Well, he was just
proving the theory because
2230
02:36:00,520 --> 02:36:04,640
he was giving everything to genetic
strangers and helping those by...
2231
02:36:04,640 --> 02:36:09,240
By helping them, he was in
no way serving the interests
2232
02:36:09,240 --> 02:36:11,280
of his genes.
2233
02:36:11,280 --> 02:36:14,080
He wasn't looking
for genetic relatives.
2234
02:36:14,080 --> 02:36:16,840
It was anyone at all he would help.
2235
02:36:16,840 --> 02:36:20,800
Of course, he was right.
This is the way we should be, but that's another point.
2236
02:36:20,800 --> 02:36:22,720
It's an important point.
2237
02:36:22,720 --> 02:36:25,160
What do you mean?
2238
02:36:25,160 --> 02:36:30,880
Well, I mean this theory that
we only help our relatives has a sort of bankruptcy in it.
2239
02:36:30,880 --> 02:36:34,520
You know, it's like we're all
going to go down unless we sort of
2240
02:36:34,520 --> 02:36:36,720
realise there's a larger community.
2241
02:36:36,720 --> 02:36:42,200
It really shouldn't rely
on the extent to which we share genes with others,
2242
02:36:42,200 --> 02:36:45,920
and yet we may be programmed
to feel that it does.
2243
02:39:24,760 --> 02:39:29,520
There is more meaning
and mutual understanding
2244
02:39:29,520 --> 02:39:33,240
in exchanging a glance with a gorilla
2245
02:39:34,760 --> 02:39:36,520
than any other animal I know.
2246
02:39:38,720 --> 02:39:40,240
We're so similar.
2247
02:39:42,400 --> 02:39:48,800
Their sight, their hearing, their
sense of smell are so similar to ours
2248
02:39:48,800 --> 02:39:52,000
that we see the world in the same way
as they do.
2249
02:39:52,000 --> 02:39:55,880
And so if ever
there was a possibility of
2250
02:39:55,880 --> 02:40:00,000
escaping the human condition
and living imaginatively...
2251
02:40:03,320 --> 02:40:05,280
..in another
2252
02:40:05,280 --> 02:40:08,520
creatures' world, it must
2253
02:40:08,520 --> 02:40:10,040
be with the gorilla.
2254
02:40:13,800 --> 02:40:15,560
David Attenborough's encounter
2255
02:40:15,560 --> 02:40:18,600
with the gorillas had been
filmed at Dian Fossey's camp.
2256
02:40:18,600 --> 02:40:22,240
But what the film did not
reveal was that a few days
2257
02:40:22,240 --> 02:40:27,240
before the local people had killed
Digit, Fossey's favourite gorilla.
2258
02:40:27,240 --> 02:40:30,120
It was a part of their
ongoing struggle with her.
2259
02:41:05,480 --> 02:41:07,120
This was November 5th.
2260
02:41:07,120 --> 02:41:13,880
"I've come to realise
that the direction I took in April of 1973 was quite wrong.
2261
02:41:13,880 --> 02:41:15,880
"I persistently, time and again,
2262
02:41:15,880 --> 02:41:19,520
"rejected attractive young
women I might have come to love
2263
02:41:19,520 --> 02:41:22,760
"to make myself the servant
or slave of down-and-outs
2264
02:41:22,760 --> 02:41:24,840
"and old people whom I did not love.
2265
02:41:24,840 --> 02:41:28,520
"The money and help that I
gave probably did mostly harm rather than good.
2266
02:41:28,520 --> 02:41:32,120
"I believe that the Hound
of Heaven right now
2267
02:41:32,120 --> 02:41:34,520
"is starting to close in on me.
2268
02:41:34,520 --> 02:41:36,440
"Daddy."
2269
02:41:38,600 --> 02:41:41,240
It's like...
2270
02:41:41,240 --> 02:41:44,840
What is the Hound of Heaven?
2271
02:41:44,840 --> 02:41:50,880
The Hound of Heaven is a poem
written in 1893 by Francis Thomson.
2272
02:41:50,880 --> 02:41:55,640
He had been an opium addict
and a vagrant in London.
2273
02:41:55,640 --> 02:41:59,680
The poem says that however much
we think we are free individuals,
2274
02:41:59,680 --> 02:42:03,280
we are, in reality,
always running from God
2275
02:42:03,280 --> 02:42:07,960
and he will pursue us till
the end, and possess our souls.
2276
02:42:10,040 --> 02:42:14,680
It is a powerful assertion
of the limits of free will.
2277
02:42:22,080 --> 02:42:26,280
He cut his carotid artery
with nail scissors.
2278
02:42:26,280 --> 02:42:34,000
It was in this... this deserted
tenement, a squatters' tenement.
2279
02:42:34,000 --> 02:42:37,760
He was all alone,
and he bled to death.
2280
02:42:37,760 --> 02:42:41,120
And yet there's a sort of purity
to it that's very... George.
2281
02:42:41,120 --> 02:42:43,240
I mean, you know,
he didn't take pills
2282
02:42:43,240 --> 02:42:47,520
and there was a sort of full
consciousness of it as he went out.
2283
02:42:47,520 --> 02:42:51,280
We're talking about free agency, he
really - who kills himself that way?
2284
02:42:51,280 --> 02:42:54,560
Honestly - wouldn't we all take
pills if we were going to do it?
2285
02:42:54,560 --> 02:42:58,200
He decided to cut his carotid artery
with scissors.
2286
02:42:58,200 --> 02:43:04,480
To me, that's very striking
and horrifying but graphic.
2287
02:43:04,480 --> 02:43:11,640
It was just an act of... of pure,
free will, wasn't it?
2288
02:43:11,640 --> 02:43:14,480
That really was what it was.
2289
02:43:14,480 --> 02:43:17,840
So genes or no genes, God or no God,
this was certainly...
2290
02:43:17,840 --> 02:43:20,440
his genes wouldn't have
told him to kill himself,
2291
02:43:20,440 --> 02:43:22,840
and God didn't, he just did it.
2292
02:43:24,520 --> 02:43:28,200
The only people at George Price's
funeral were Bill Hamilton,
2293
02:43:28,200 --> 02:43:32,800
one other biologist and a few
of the homeless Price had helped.
2294
02:43:35,080 --> 02:43:38,640
But his and Hamilton's theory
was about to be taken up
2295
02:43:38,640 --> 02:43:42,560
and transformed into one of the most
defining concepts of our age.
2296
02:43:43,920 --> 02:43:46,080
A young biologist called
Richard Dawkins -
2297
02:43:46,080 --> 02:43:48,600
who had himself been
a computer programmer -
2298
02:43:48,600 --> 02:43:50,160
took their equations
2299
02:43:50,160 --> 02:43:54,080
and, through vivid language,
captured the public imagination
2300
02:43:54,080 --> 02:43:57,040
with a new way of looking at humans.
2301
02:44:00,560 --> 02:44:04,440
Our old romantic idea of free will,
he said, is grossly exaggerated.
2302
02:44:04,440 --> 02:44:08,080
And most of our actions are actually
controlled by the logic
2303
02:44:08,080 --> 02:44:11,920
of the onboard computers
buried deep within us.
2304
02:44:12,920 --> 02:44:17,120
We are simply machines playing
tiny roles in a vast strategic game
2305
02:44:17,120 --> 02:44:20,920
played by competing computer codes
over centuries.
2306
02:44:24,480 --> 02:44:28,280
I was wanting to conjure up
in the mind of the reader
2307
02:44:28,280 --> 02:44:30,920
the image of the organism,
including ourselves,
2308
02:44:30,920 --> 02:44:35,040
as a machine for passing on genes.
I wanted to shift the focus
2309
02:44:35,040 --> 02:44:38,800
away from the idea of the organism
as being the agent in life
2310
02:44:38,800 --> 02:44:42,120
to the immortal replicator,
which is the gene.
2311
02:44:42,120 --> 02:44:45,080
Cos that was the logic
of natural selection -
2312
02:44:45,080 --> 02:44:47,200
that is the logic of
natural selection.
2313
02:44:47,200 --> 02:44:50,040
It's the selfish gene,
but not the selfish individual.
2314
02:44:51,760 --> 02:44:56,760
DNA. Exactly analagous to the
binary digits of some computer code,
2315
02:44:56,760 --> 02:45:00,360
unravelling like a reel of magnetic
tape on some giant computer.
2316
02:45:02,320 --> 02:45:05,840
But at the heart of this supremely
rational mathematical theory,
2317
02:45:05,840 --> 02:45:08,200
there was a paradox.
2318
02:45:08,200 --> 02:45:09,880
William Hamilton, George Price
2319
02:45:09,880 --> 02:45:13,760
and Richard Dawkins had
reinvented the immortal soul -
2320
02:45:13,760 --> 02:45:17,520
a part within us
that would survive our own death,
2321
02:45:17,520 --> 02:45:21,320
and whose eternal life was
far more significant
2322
02:45:21,320 --> 02:45:24,240
than our own temporary
and limited existence.
2323
02:45:24,240 --> 02:45:28,840
But the soul was now a computer code
that made no distinction
2324
02:45:28,840 --> 02:45:30,400
between good and evil.
2325
02:45:31,400 --> 02:45:35,920
The DNA in you is a coded description
of ancient worlds
2326
02:45:35,920 --> 02:45:38,040
in which your ancestors lived.
2327
02:45:38,040 --> 02:45:42,320
DNA is the wisdom
out of the old days.
2328
02:45:42,320 --> 02:45:44,280
And I mean very old days indeed.
2329
02:45:45,800 --> 02:45:49,360
We are the descendents
of a tiny elite
2330
02:45:49,360 --> 02:45:51,160
of successful ancestors.
2331
02:45:52,360 --> 02:45:55,400
We are walking archives
of the African Pliocene.
2332
02:45:55,400 --> 02:45:58,680
Walking repositories of wisdom
out of the old days.
2333
02:46:29,360 --> 02:46:34,120
In 1994, the ruling Hutu
government in Rwanda set out
2334
02:46:34,120 --> 02:46:36,120
to exterminate the Tutsi minority.
2335
02:46:36,120 --> 02:46:38,480
Most western reports described it
2336
02:46:38,480 --> 02:46:43,600
as the sudden re-emergence
of incomprehensible tribal hatreds.
2337
02:46:43,600 --> 02:46:46,760
The New York Times said it was
"an uncontrollable spasm
2338
02:46:46,760 --> 02:46:50,560
"of lawlessness and terror,
in a failed African state
2339
02:46:50,560 --> 02:46:54,000
"with a centuries' old
history of tribal warfare".
2340
02:46:56,080 --> 02:46:57,360
But this wasn't true.
2341
02:46:57,360 --> 02:47:01,920
The Germans were just repeating
the old imperial fantasy
2342
02:47:01,920 --> 02:47:06,400
which said that the Tutsis and Hutus
were ancient rival races.
2343
02:47:07,760 --> 02:47:10,480
In reality, the massacres
were the horrifying result
2344
02:47:10,480 --> 02:47:12,760
of the Belgians' policy
of divide and rule
2345
02:47:12,760 --> 02:47:15,600
that they had begun less than 100
years before in Rwanda.
2346
02:47:16,600 --> 02:47:20,680
It was this policy that had led
to the vicious modern civil war
2347
02:47:20,680 --> 02:47:24,720
that began the moment
the Belgians left in 1959,
2348
02:47:24,720 --> 02:47:26,560
and had now culminated in genocide.
2349
02:47:33,600 --> 02:47:37,200
In the colonial era, the Belgians
had deliberately exaggerated
2350
02:47:37,200 --> 02:47:41,720
and distorted the divisions
between the Hutus and the Tutsis.
2351
02:47:41,720 --> 02:47:45,520
And the identity cards that
the Belgians had created,
2352
02:47:45,520 --> 02:47:47,920
that divided the two groups
biologically,
2353
02:47:47,920 --> 02:47:51,000
now became passports
to life or death.
2354
02:47:53,640 --> 02:47:56,720
TRANSLATION:
2355
02:48:23,720 --> 02:48:26,800
But then the west
got involved again.
2356
02:48:26,800 --> 02:48:28,680
And, as it would turn out,
2357
02:48:28,680 --> 02:48:31,440
with equally devastating
consequences.
2358
02:48:34,840 --> 02:48:36,440
The Tutsis fought back,
2359
02:48:36,440 --> 02:48:39,640
and the country descended
into violent chaos.
2360
02:48:39,640 --> 02:48:44,600
Thousands of Rwandans
fled across the border into Zaire.
2361
02:48:44,600 --> 02:48:47,840
Huge refugee camps were set up.
2362
02:48:47,840 --> 02:48:51,440
Western aid agencies flooded in
to help the innocent victims.
2363
02:48:52,520 --> 02:48:55,920
But almost immediately,
they found what they were also doing
2364
02:48:55,920 --> 02:48:59,240
was protecting the perpetrators
of the genocide.
2365
02:48:59,240 --> 02:49:02,880
The Hutu assasins were hiding
amongst the civilians in the camps.
2366
02:49:02,880 --> 02:49:08,320
When people crossed the border,
we knew very well among them
2367
02:49:08,320 --> 02:49:13,040
there were murderers, people we were
helping every time we give out food,
2368
02:49:13,040 --> 02:49:15,000
every time we give health services.
2369
02:49:15,000 --> 02:49:18,120
We know that among the people
we're helping there are murderers.
2370
02:49:19,680 --> 02:49:23,480
So the Tutsis invaded the camps
to take their revenge.
2371
02:49:23,480 --> 02:49:28,520
In response,
President Mobutu sent his troops to try and stop the fighting.
2372
02:49:28,520 --> 02:49:31,960
But they just
joined in the looting,
2373
02:49:31,960 --> 02:49:33,960
and Mobutu fell from power.
2374
02:49:36,800 --> 02:49:39,080
At the same time,
the consumer boom in the west
2375
02:49:39,080 --> 02:49:42,920
was fuelling commodity
prices throughout the world.
2376
02:49:42,920 --> 02:49:46,720
And the Congo's minerals become
even more valuable.
2377
02:49:48,080 --> 02:49:51,480
Everyone piled in.
Troops arrived from Zimbabwe...
2378
02:49:51,480 --> 02:49:52,800
from Angola...
2379
02:49:52,800 --> 02:49:58,280
from Uganda, Chad, Namibia
and Libya.
2380
02:50:00,320 --> 02:50:03,120
They all said they had come
to stop the fighting,
2381
02:50:03,120 --> 02:50:05,600
but actually they were all trying to
2382
02:50:05,600 --> 02:50:08,000
get their hands on
the precious treasure.
2383
02:50:12,800 --> 02:50:16,200
And behind them were
western companies,
2384
02:50:16,200 --> 02:50:19,720
and us, all demanding
our new consumer goods and toys.
2385
02:50:21,440 --> 02:50:24,760
In all, four and a half million
people died in this war
2386
02:50:24,760 --> 02:50:28,560
between 1998 and 2003.
2387
02:50:30,400 --> 02:50:33,400
And into the midst of all this
came Bill Hamilton.
2388
02:50:41,720 --> 02:50:45,840
Hamilton was by now one of the most
famous scientists in the world.
2389
02:50:45,840 --> 02:50:49,840
He was given the highest honours
by the scientific establishment.
2390
02:50:51,880 --> 02:50:55,200
But his theories had led him
into a very dark place.
2391
02:50:56,320 --> 02:51:01,120
He had written a series of books
called Narrow Roads Of Gene Land.
2392
02:51:01,120 --> 02:51:04,320
In them, Hamilton followed
the logic of natural selection
2393
02:51:04,320 --> 02:51:05,760
to its extreme conclusion.
2394
02:51:05,760 --> 02:51:10,040
The idea that we should use
western science and medicine to
2395
02:51:10,040 --> 02:51:14,920
prolong the lives of those who would
otherwise die, he said, was wrong.
2396
02:51:16,040 --> 02:51:18,880
It would allow the genetically
inferior to survive,
2397
02:51:18,880 --> 02:51:20,560
and so would weaken society.
2398
02:51:21,920 --> 02:51:24,200
Nothing should be allowed to
interfere with
2399
02:51:24,200 --> 02:51:26,360
the strategy of the genes.
2400
02:51:26,360 --> 02:51:31,280
He believed that some people are
genetically inferior to others,
2401
02:51:31,280 --> 02:51:35,160
that it's certainly possible,
thanks to modern medicine,
2402
02:51:35,160 --> 02:51:42,840
thanks to modern social policies,
not only to keep these people alive,
2403
02:51:42,840 --> 02:51:45,320
but to help them to flourish and,
more importantly,
2404
02:51:45,320 --> 02:51:49,360
to help them reproduce, and
he thought that this is a bad thing.
2405
02:51:50,720 --> 02:51:54,760
And he thought that we should stand
against this slide into degeneration.
2406
02:51:54,760 --> 02:51:57,920
Because if you didn't stand
against it, what would happen?
2407
02:51:57,920 --> 02:52:00,360
Because he felt
if we don't stand against it,
2408
02:52:00,360 --> 02:52:04,040
the human species is
going to degenerate.
2409
02:52:05,560 --> 02:52:08,120
Then, Hamilton heard a story
from a journalist.
2410
02:52:08,120 --> 02:52:12,120
The journalist believed that
the AIDS virus had been
2411
02:52:12,120 --> 02:52:15,680
accidentally created by American
scientists in the Congo in the 1950s
2412
02:52:15,680 --> 02:52:19,280
when they were testing
a polio vaccine.
2413
02:52:19,280 --> 02:52:23,040
The Americans had set up
a laboratory to make the vaccine
2414
02:52:23,040 --> 02:52:25,600
by growing it in the cells
of chimpanzees.
2415
02:52:25,600 --> 02:52:28,760
And the journalist's theory said
that by doing this,
2416
02:52:28,760 --> 02:52:33,760
the vaccine had become mixed with
the chimp version of HIV,
2417
02:52:33,760 --> 02:52:36,760
which then entered human beings
when they took the vaccine.
2418
02:52:37,960 --> 02:52:40,240
Hamilton was fascinated.
2419
02:52:40,240 --> 02:52:44,160
He was convinced that the scientific
establishment were trying to
2420
02:52:44,160 --> 02:52:47,800
suppress the evidence because
it was a challenge to the idea that
2421
02:52:47,800 --> 02:52:50,120
modern medicine was
always beneficial.
2422
02:52:50,120 --> 02:52:54,040
The medical profession
and the scientific background to it
2423
02:52:54,040 --> 02:52:57,720
doesn't like the idea that
this might have been a human mistake.
2424
02:52:57,720 --> 02:53:03,240
My fear is that it's going to become
harder and harder to investigate
2425
02:53:03,240 --> 02:53:06,480
this type of hypothesis
that has big implications
2426
02:53:06,480 --> 02:53:10,240
for what I would call big science,
because people are going to be
2427
02:53:10,240 --> 02:53:12,440
afraid of it
for reasons of litigation,
2428
02:53:12,440 --> 02:53:14,440
for reasons of losing their grant.
2429
02:53:16,720 --> 02:53:20,200
Hamilton decided to break
the conspiracy of silence.
2430
02:53:20,200 --> 02:53:21,480
So he set out for the Congo.
2431
02:53:24,160 --> 02:53:27,680
He was going to track down the local
chimpanzees, study their viruses
2432
02:53:27,680 --> 02:53:31,320
and prove that modern medicine,
in trying to save lives,
2433
02:53:31,320 --> 02:53:34,840
had inadvertently caused the death
of over 20 million people.
2434
02:53:40,840 --> 02:53:44,000
Hamilton's journey was a vivid
expression of what had happened
2435
02:53:44,000 --> 02:53:46,520
at the end of the 20th century
to the western dream
2436
02:53:46,520 --> 02:53:49,440
of transforming the world
for the better.
2437
02:53:52,280 --> 02:53:56,160
The logic of his scientific theory
had led him to a small ruined town
2438
02:53:56,160 --> 02:53:58,680
in the eastern Congo.
2439
02:53:58,680 --> 02:54:01,840
He walked through the chaos,
murder and looting,
2440
02:54:01,840 --> 02:54:03,680
looking for evidence that
2441
02:54:03,680 --> 02:54:07,840
western medicine was
dangerous and misguided.
2442
02:54:07,840 --> 02:54:10,360
While all around him,
the horrific consequences
2443
02:54:10,360 --> 02:54:13,520
of the Rwanda massacres were
being played out.
2444
02:54:15,040 --> 02:54:18,520
Consequences created not just
by western imperialism and greed,
2445
02:54:18,520 --> 02:54:22,920
but also by the best
and noblest of liberal ideals.
2446
02:54:24,200 --> 02:54:27,240
Because it was liberals in
the Belgian administration who had
2447
02:54:27,240 --> 02:54:32,000
first encouraged the Hutus to
rise up against the Tutsi elites.
2448
02:54:42,720 --> 02:54:45,680
And it was the aid camps set up
in the wake of the massacres
2449
02:54:45,680 --> 02:54:47,520
that had complicated the conflict
2450
02:54:47,520 --> 02:54:50,080
and helped to spread
the violence into the Congo.
2451
02:54:55,640 --> 02:54:58,880
Then, Hamilton died,
by the freak accident
2452
02:54:58,880 --> 02:55:02,320
of the aspirin lodged in his gut,
that then caused a haemorrhage.
2453
02:55:04,880 --> 02:55:08,440
His theory about the origin of AIDS
in the vaccination programmes
2454
02:55:08,440 --> 02:55:11,440
of the 1950s turned out
to be completely untrue.
2455
02:55:11,440 --> 02:55:15,320
Subsequent research has shown that
it had no factual foundation.
2456
02:55:19,600 --> 02:55:24,080
But Hamilton's ideas remain
powerfully influential
2457
02:55:24,080 --> 02:55:27,720
in our society. Above all,
the idea that human beings are
2458
02:55:27,720 --> 02:55:32,120
helpless chunks of hardware
controlled by software programmes
2459
02:55:32,120 --> 02:55:34,080
written in their genetic codes.
2460
02:55:34,080 --> 02:55:37,440
And the question is,
have we embraced that idea
2461
02:55:37,440 --> 02:55:42,000
because it is a comfort in a world
where everything we do,
2462
02:55:42,000 --> 02:55:45,880
either good or bad, seems to have
terrible unforeseen consequences?
2463
02:55:47,960 --> 02:55:51,120
We know that it was our actions
that have helped to cause the horror
2464
02:55:51,120 --> 02:55:53,880
still unfolding in the Congo.
2465
02:55:53,880 --> 02:55:55,680
Yet we have no idea
what to do about it.
2466
02:55:58,080 --> 02:56:01,880
So instead, we have embraced
a fatalistic philosophy of us
2467
02:56:01,880 --> 02:56:06,520
as helpless computing machines
to both excuse and explain
2468
02:56:06,520 --> 02:56:09,400
our political failure
to change the world.
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