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Everything was a challenge
that needed to be conquered.
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It was always,
we have something to prove,
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a wall to break down.
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We're gonna, like, melt
people's fucking faces off
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because they expected us
to suck.
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We were literally out there
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with people throwing
pint glasses at our heads
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and pulling their dicks
out at us.
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But we have a superpower
when we're together.
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And it was like us
against everybody.
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It was like us
against the world.
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Grateful Dead girlfriends
over here or something?
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Wait!
We're totally not ready.
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What do you mean
you're not ready?
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You're ready
when we introduce you!
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Rock 'n' roll!
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Yeah, we're trying.
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I'd like to introduce
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the Grateful Dead
girlfriends now.
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Forget it.
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Scratch that joke
from the record.
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You ready?
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Donny Osmond.
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You ready?
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Well, don't fuckin' be
sophisticated.
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Make some noise or somethin'.
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This is punk rock,
you knuckleheads!
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Welcome the Lunachicks!
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♪ RIP out
the ugly eyes of you ♪
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♪ I tear your
yawning jaw apart ♪
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When I first heard
of the Lunachicks,
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I was like,
what the fuck is this?
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This is amazing,
it was hilarious,
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and it was rocking.
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It kind of reminded me
of Beastie Boys,
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where it was just, like,
punk rock but funny.
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Really aggressive rock,
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with all this drama to it,
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and yet also, like,
with a wink and a nod.
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To me, they were like,
wow, that's the whole package.
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They were tough,
they were dirty, gritty.
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They had a bad-ass
New York attitude,
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but they were really funny.
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It was kind of rad
and inspiring
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and kind of intimidating
all at the same time.
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♪ Do it, bad, bad, bad, bad
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♪ Do it, do it
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Bottom line is,
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they're a great fucking band.
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And they are incredible live.
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They have this
wonderful chemistry
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that is the Lunachicks.
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They were punks,
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they were rock chicks,
and they were great.
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They had attitude.
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I mean, I was really surprised
that they didn't go further.
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It was too much
for some people.
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Really.
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But, I mean, fuck 'em
if they can't take a joke.
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♪ Signed hairy and blue,
ooh, ooh, ooh ♪
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♪ Stop shaving
and get it waxed ♪
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♪ No one likes a hairy trap
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♪ Oh, hairy trap
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There's one right there.
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And one--and there's
another one over there.
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In the early nineties,
we had a song called "Plugg."
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So we had this idea
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to spontaneously
menstruate on stage.
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So we packed Ziploc
baggies full of fake blood.
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I taped my baggie
to the underside of my guitar.
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Theo had hers taped
around her thighs,
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and we were all gonna pop
the bags at the same time
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and have blood everywhere.
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So I had my guitar,
and then the break happened,
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and I went boom!
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And blood everywhere.
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There's blood all down my legs,
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and there's blood
all over my dress.
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So they photoshopped
the blood off,
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and my legs have
no blood on them.
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The Lunachicks really
tapped into
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every girl's desire
to take down the patriarchy,
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whether or not
it's a conscious thing.
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In high school, I came across
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"Jerk of All Trades,"
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and I turned it over,
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and I was like, "Oh, my God,
they're all girls."
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♪ Walk in front of a car
at the mall ♪
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I was like, holy shit.
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I need to know everything
about this band.
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♪ You want to die,
I can see it in your eyes ♪
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And I brought that CD home
and I played it
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until every fart and burp
and curse, I absorbed it,
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and I was just like,
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this is what
I've been waiting for.
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I've been waiting for this band
my whole life.
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We are working on a book
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that's probably gonna be
some kind of memoir.
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So you're on stage.
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You're--you have an audience
for the first time...
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Oh, I was petrified.
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There was a lot
of looking down.
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We just started talking
about making the book.
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It gave us a reason
to see each other more
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and start telling the story
of our lives together.
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♪ Pretty ugly, pretty ugly
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We started playing together
when we were 17.
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all: Lunachicks!
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Gina. I play guitar
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Sindi, guitar.
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Theo. I sing.
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Squid. I play bass.
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♪ Whoa
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♪ Whaa, whaa
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I'm from Brooklyn.
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My parents tried to control me
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in a way
I couldn't be controlled.
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When I was very little,
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my parents always said
"calmly" to me,
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like "Calmly, Theo.
Calmly, Theo,"
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to the point where
I asked them
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if my name was "Calmly."
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My parents found
the Sikh religion,
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and so we spent the next year
being Sikhs,
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and then exactly a year later,
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they're like, "We're not
doing this anymore."
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We went to Unitarian Church
for, like, 5 minutes.
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They were like, "Nah."
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We went to Quaker meeting.
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They were very strict.
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And I wasn't allowed
to be mad.
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I was so angry
and nowhere to put it.
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I met Theo the last year
of junior high school.
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I was a bad kid.
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I got in trouble a lot.
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I was, like,
the mean brunette.
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I'm not actually
a natural blonde.
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Syd was just
full of attitude,
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like badass, cool.
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Wore, like, lipstick.
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And she did not like me.
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Hated her the minute
I laid eyes on her.
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She was beautiful,
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and, like, the boys had
crushes on her.
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I was totally snubbing
the shit out of her
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and then did
one of those, like,
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keep your enemies closer
maneuvers.
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We were in a dance class,
and I was a dancer.
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We had a dance show,
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and you could, like,
choreograph
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dances in the show,
so I was like,
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"Heard you can dance."
She's like, "Yeah."
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"Want to be in my dance?"
"Okay."
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And then fell, like,
in love with her.
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Like, instantly.
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I was like,
"Oh, my God, I'm in."
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I'm like,
"I'm with the cool kids.
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It's happening."
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It's so, like, emotional
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when you have girlfriends
that age.
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Before you're having sex,
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that's, like, your first
real relationship.
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It's, like, as important
as any lover,
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you know what I mean?
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Like, the amount of drama
and tears.
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We hung out constantly,
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and I dragged her
to my house, like,
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"Let me show you this,
let me show you that."
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Like, wouldn't let her leave.
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We were, like, best friends.
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Gina, I met through
my friend from camp.
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I think we were both 12,
and I was such a nerd.
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I was such a nerd
and a misfit.
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All I did was draw all day.
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My friend was like, "You're
going to meet my friend Theo,
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"and she's really cool,
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"and she looks just like
Julie from 'Fame,'
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so just try to be cool."
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Remember the movie "Fame"?
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After seeing that movie,
yeah, I was like,
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"I wanna go
to the Fame school."
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This is no
Mickey Mouse school.
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You're not getting off easy
because you're talented.
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You'll work twice as hard.
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Everybody wanted
to go to that school.
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It was, like, all these kids
from drastically different
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economic neighborhoods
in New York.
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You know, there's, like,
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the rich girl
from the Upper East side,
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and the poor kid
from the Bronx.
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You know, they all, like,
get into this
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really exclusive program
at this high school,
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which is really
exactly how it was.
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And I got into
the drama department,
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so I thought
it was really cool
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that I got into "Fame" school.
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I always wanted to be
an artist.
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So I got into
the art department,
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and freshman year, I found out
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that Theo was gonna be
in my class.
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And that's how we reconnected
and became friends.
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New York in the '70s and '80s
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was just a very
different place.
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A lot of abandoned buildings
and wrecked cars.
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You know, at 14,
you could get a fake ID.
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And I remember,
they were like,
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"You have to choose one
of four occupations."
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There was, like, four choices,
and I was like, "Secretary."
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You know, "Secre--secretary."
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The first time I ever hung out
with Gina and Theo,
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we went to the Roxy,
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and we went to see, like,
Herbie Hancock or something.
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Not punk rock at all.
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It was so fun--
music and going out
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and lying to my parents
about where I was sleeping
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and being out all night
and taking the train
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and, you know, all these
crazy, like, risks.
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And it was shitty--
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really dangerous and shitty
and gritty and fun.
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We used to drop acid and go
to Times Square in the '80s.
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Watch the movie
"Times Square."
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It was like
a playground for us.
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A dirty, dangerous playground.
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One of my first concerts
was The Misfits
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at the Ukrainian Hall, 1981,
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and it was fantastic.
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And then I started going
to the Peppermint Lounge
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on 45th Street.
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15, 16 years old, and it was
like Times Square in 1981.
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It was really cool and scary.
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And nobody raped me
or stabbed me
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or anything like that,
so that was really great.
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These are my girls!
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I don't know
where they came from,
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but there they were,
and I just loved them.
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Sindi was the coolest girl
in the world.
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She's not that much
older than me,
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but I feel like she raised me.
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When you're 15 and your friend
has their own apartment,
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live with their boyfriend,
it's really different.
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It's a big five years.
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Sindi was a huge influence
in every way--
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style, clothes, music.
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She became the most badass
big sister to all of us.
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All I wanted to do was,
after school,
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get down to the East Village.
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The East Village was
just a cool place.
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Every chance I got, I'd be
hanging around St Mark's,
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going to Seconds Records.
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You'd see all the punks
hanging out on stoops,
253
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and you'd be really
kind of scared of them,
254
00:11:29,654 --> 00:11:30,690
but you wanted
to hang out with them,
255
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'cause that's who
you wanted to be.
256
00:11:35,108 --> 00:11:36,661
There was Lismar Lounge,
257
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the Pyramid on Avenue A,
258
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King Tut's Wah Wah Hut.
259
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CB's, of course.
260
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There was, like,
a sort of '60s
261
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garage-y scene going on.
262
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All these underground bands
that were very influential--
263
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the Swamp Goblyns that
then became the Kretins,
264
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and then Da Willys,
the Man Eaters.
265
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I was just like, "Oh, my God,
I need to do this.
266
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I can do this
if they could do it."
267
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We had a band called Freaks,
268
00:12:01,513 --> 00:12:06,587
and we started to see
those little Lunachicks,
269
00:12:06,691 --> 00:12:09,142
and they were not
old enough to get in,
270
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and they would stand outside
when we played.
271
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And we loved that,
and we loved them.
272
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And I kept always
telling them,
273
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"You know,
you should be a band."
274
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Yes, why shouldn't it work?
It's us.
275
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And everything we do is
fun and great,
276
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so this can also be
fun and great.
277
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And sure enough, it was.
278
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Yeah, baby.
279
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Are we gonna do
the whole thing?
280
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Yeah.
281
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Oh, wait.
282
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♪ Wheoo, wheeoo
283
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I like that,
"Wheoo, wheeoo."
284
00:12:39,966 --> 00:12:41,243
We have it all figured out.
285
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Theo's gonna sing.
I'm gonna play bass.
286
00:12:44,108 --> 00:12:45,972
Sindi's gonna play guitar,
'cause she has a guitar.
287
00:12:46,075 --> 00:12:47,456
And they're like,
"You can play lead guitar!"
288
00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:49,872
And I was like, "I don't know
how to play lead guitar."
289
00:12:49,976 --> 00:12:50,942
And they're like, "That's okay.
290
00:12:51,046 --> 00:12:52,012
"We don't know how to play
anything either,
291
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so let's just do it."
292
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Ready!
293
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OK.
294
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♪ No remorse
295
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We were awful.
296
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We were so awful.
297
00:13:01,194 --> 00:13:05,577
♪ This life of yours
is mine to take ♪
298
00:13:05,681 --> 00:13:09,202
We were practicing in my
bedroom, in my parents' house.
299
00:13:09,305 --> 00:13:11,825
Theo's heavy metal
boyfriend, Mike,
300
00:13:11,929 --> 00:13:13,516
ended up being
our first drummer
301
00:13:13,620 --> 00:13:17,141
and played our first show,
I think, when we were 18.
302
00:13:17,244 --> 00:13:19,971
♪ I touch your corpse
303
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♪ One more time
304
00:13:27,392 --> 00:13:29,222
I think it was
our second show,
305
00:13:29,325 --> 00:13:34,917
and Kim and Thurston
from Sonic Youth were there.
306
00:13:35,021 --> 00:13:38,369
We wanted to be
this mishmash of MC5
307
00:13:38,472 --> 00:13:41,821
and Black Sabbath
and The Clash and Iggy--
308
00:13:41,924 --> 00:13:44,824
you know,
all our favorite bands.
309
00:13:44,927 --> 00:13:46,826
But we did not sound
like that.
310
00:13:46,929 --> 00:13:48,724
So Thurston Moore was there,
311
00:13:48,828 --> 00:13:51,313
and he thought we were
a noise band.
312
00:13:52,970 --> 00:13:55,593
He called up Blast First,
313
00:13:55,696 --> 00:13:57,181
and that became
our first label,
314
00:13:57,284 --> 00:13:59,528
with the idea that
Thurston and Kim Gordon
315
00:13:59,631 --> 00:14:02,634
would be producing our album.
316
00:14:02,738 --> 00:14:04,153
I write most of the lyrics,
317
00:14:04,257 --> 00:14:06,569
and people come in
with different songs,
318
00:14:06,673 --> 00:14:08,917
and we sort of meld together
319
00:14:09,020 --> 00:14:14,301
to make this sort
of mind-warping combobulation
320
00:14:14,405 --> 00:14:17,235
of sound and noise
and stuff like that.
321
00:14:17,339 --> 00:14:20,307
Our songs are about
people we love
322
00:14:20,411 --> 00:14:24,518
and people we hate
and TV shows we love and--
323
00:14:24,622 --> 00:14:26,555
and killing people.
324
00:14:26,658 --> 00:14:27,418
We just write songs about it.
325
00:14:27,521 --> 00:14:28,798
We don't really do
any of that stuff.
326
00:14:30,145 --> 00:14:31,767
The things that we did
after school--
327
00:14:31,871 --> 00:14:34,114
the TV watching
and the pot smoking
328
00:14:34,218 --> 00:14:35,598
and then the binge-eating--
329
00:14:35,702 --> 00:14:39,637
these all became fodder
for Lunachicks songs.
330
00:14:39,740 --> 00:14:40,810
Hey, hey, hey!
331
00:14:40,914 --> 00:14:42,226
So we wrote a song
332
00:14:42,329 --> 00:14:44,297
about Mabel King
from "What's Happening!!"
333
00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:46,368
♪ Mabel King,
you are the queen ♪
334
00:14:46,471 --> 00:14:49,026
We wrote a song about
Jan Brady of the Brady Bunch.
335
00:14:49,129 --> 00:14:50,372
♪ Well, I know I cracked
336
00:14:50,475 --> 00:14:52,581
♪ The family picture
with my bike ♪
337
00:14:52,684 --> 00:14:53,789
Jan, look out!
338
00:14:53,893 --> 00:14:57,137
♪ I wasn't wearing
my glasses ♪
339
00:14:57,241 --> 00:14:58,621
On top of watching TV,
340
00:14:58,725 --> 00:15:00,002
we were obsessed
with B movies,
341
00:15:00,106 --> 00:15:02,418
and we were obsessed
with John Waters.
342
00:15:02,522 --> 00:15:03,281
Totally obsessed.
343
00:15:03,385 --> 00:15:06,250
Welcome to Mortville, ladies.
344
00:15:06,353 --> 00:15:08,183
And there's a scene
in "Desperate Living"
345
00:15:08,286 --> 00:15:10,702
where the babysitter is
tripping...
346
00:15:10,806 --> 00:15:13,153
What have you done
with my baby?
347
00:15:13,257 --> 00:15:15,397
- I don't know, I'm trippin'!
- Trippin'?
348
00:15:15,500 --> 00:15:17,778
And she puts the kid
in the refrigerator.
349
00:15:19,504 --> 00:15:21,127
Are we gonna reveal what
the name of our album is?
350
00:15:21,230 --> 00:15:22,473
We might as well.
351
00:15:22,576 --> 00:15:26,718
- "Babysitters On Acid"!
- "Babysitters On Acid."
352
00:15:31,516 --> 00:15:33,553
♪ Hello, dear,
there's some popcorn in here ♪
353
00:15:33,656 --> 00:15:36,452
♪ There's soda and ice cream,
but don't touch the beer ♪
354
00:15:36,556 --> 00:15:37,798
Getting on that mic
and feeling
355
00:15:37,902 --> 00:15:40,215
the loudness and the power,
356
00:15:40,318 --> 00:15:45,254
I remember feeling
finally free.
357
00:15:45,358 --> 00:15:47,705
♪ Yes, ma'am,
and I'll see you later ♪
358
00:15:47,808 --> 00:15:51,260
♪ Don't worry, I'll be
on my best behavior ♪
359
00:15:53,987 --> 00:15:55,333
You're such a visual band.
360
00:15:55,437 --> 00:15:56,817
People talk about
the Lunachicks like,
361
00:15:56,921 --> 00:15:59,027
"Oh, yeah, they dressed up."
- Yeah.
362
00:15:59,130 --> 00:16:01,132
Combing thrift stores
was, like, a big...
363
00:16:01,236 --> 00:16:02,168
- It was, like, a big--
- Pastime of ours.
364
00:16:02,271 --> 00:16:03,341
That's what we would do.
365
00:16:03,445 --> 00:16:04,929
I really would love them
366
00:16:05,033 --> 00:16:06,137
to get back together.
367
00:16:06,241 --> 00:16:07,345
Shitting in
the Salvation Army always.
368
00:16:07,449 --> 00:16:09,002
Shitting in
fuckin' thrift stores
369
00:16:09,106 --> 00:16:10,141
all over the country--so gross.
370
00:16:10,245 --> 00:16:11,936
I think there would be
a tremendous interest
371
00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:14,145
from all over the world.
372
00:16:14,249 --> 00:16:17,286
I'm saying this with all
the respect in the world.
373
00:16:17,390 --> 00:16:18,701
You're in it. You don't...
374
00:16:19,771 --> 00:16:21,325
You have
a different perspective.
375
00:16:21,428 --> 00:16:24,017
In my mind,
if you went on tour,
376
00:16:24,121 --> 00:16:25,985
you would fucking kill it.
377
00:16:27,503 --> 00:16:28,918
I'm telling you.
378
00:16:33,475 --> 00:16:35,201
Anyhoo.
379
00:16:39,412 --> 00:16:41,103
My identity was really
wrapped up in the band
380
00:16:41,207 --> 00:16:42,863
for a long time.
381
00:16:42,967 --> 00:16:45,452
I wouldn't say I turned
my back on that identity,
382
00:16:45,556 --> 00:16:49,801
but I always had a fear
of holding onto the past.
383
00:16:49,905 --> 00:16:51,320
You hungry for pizza?
384
00:16:51,424 --> 00:16:53,253
OK, whoever wants pizza,
come down!
385
00:16:53,357 --> 00:16:54,599
I also had two kids
386
00:16:54,703 --> 00:16:57,706
and opened two restaurants
in 12 1/2 years.
387
00:16:57,809 --> 00:17:00,640
People are like,
"Oh, that poor older woman
388
00:17:00,743 --> 00:17:04,264
"with tattoos that has to bus
tables for a living,
389
00:17:04,368 --> 00:17:05,541
we feel really bad for her."
390
00:17:07,819 --> 00:17:09,338
I feel like the older I get,
391
00:17:09,442 --> 00:17:13,929
the clearer the sense
of my own mortality
392
00:17:14,033 --> 00:17:15,448
and feeling time
slipping away,
393
00:17:15,551 --> 00:17:18,865
and wanting to make
as much art and music
394
00:17:18,968 --> 00:17:21,109
as possible before I die.
395
00:17:22,662 --> 00:17:26,597
I am releasing
a new single every month,
396
00:17:26,700 --> 00:17:27,736
and I'm making videos.
397
00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:31,533
OK.
398
00:17:33,086 --> 00:17:34,639
Whoa!
399
00:17:34,743 --> 00:17:37,573
I would love to see this
on top of what you have on.
400
00:17:37,677 --> 00:17:40,335
They are normally 21,
and today they're 15.
401
00:17:40,438 --> 00:17:42,406
I have my own
lip gloss company.
402
00:17:42,509 --> 00:17:45,547
The glosses are named
after rock 'n' roll icons.
403
00:17:45,650 --> 00:17:49,309
This is "Highway Star,"
which is a Deep Purple song.
404
00:17:49,413 --> 00:17:52,140
Ha-ha-ha. Get it?
405
00:17:52,243 --> 00:17:53,624
- What band were you in?
- We were in Lunachicks.
406
00:17:53,727 --> 00:17:54,832
I was in Lunachicks.
- Oh, my God!
407
00:17:54,935 --> 00:17:56,454
- The singer.
- I love Lunachicks!
408
00:17:57,421 --> 00:17:58,594
So are you guys reuniting?
409
00:17:58,698 --> 00:18:00,217
No.
410
00:18:06,223 --> 00:18:08,639
People always ask us
if we'll play again,
411
00:18:08,742 --> 00:18:11,469
so every once in a while,
it comes up,
412
00:18:11,573 --> 00:18:15,094
but we haven't played together
in a very long time.
413
00:18:17,958 --> 00:18:21,410
I had all the girls
up to my country house,
414
00:18:21,514 --> 00:18:23,205
and then as we were all
sitting there,
415
00:18:23,309 --> 00:18:25,380
I did bring it up, like,
416
00:18:25,483 --> 00:18:28,866
"We really need to do
one more show."
417
00:18:33,457 --> 00:18:36,080
And they were all like,
"What?"
418
00:18:36,184 --> 00:18:37,944
We could do, like,
seven or eight shows.
419
00:18:38,047 --> 00:18:39,290
Seven or eight?
420
00:18:39,394 --> 00:18:41,258
Uh-oh! Wheels are turning.
Wheels are turning.
421
00:18:41,361 --> 00:18:42,776
- Um...
- Oh!
422
00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:44,640
Maybe we could get Depends
to sponsor us.
423
00:18:45,917 --> 00:18:47,126
I still record music,
424
00:18:47,229 --> 00:18:48,713
I write songs,
425
00:18:48,817 --> 00:18:52,476
but I haven't been in front
of an audience in years.
426
00:18:52,579 --> 00:18:54,063
I feel like
I'm gonna pass out.
427
00:18:55,893 --> 00:18:58,309
Do I want to, you know,
hang out with my girls again?
428
00:18:58,413 --> 00:19:00,173
Yeah, that would be great.
429
00:19:00,277 --> 00:19:02,037
Um, being on stage?
430
00:19:02,141 --> 00:19:03,694
I--it would be fun.
431
00:19:05,523 --> 00:19:08,940
But there's a lot
of history there.
432
00:19:09,044 --> 00:19:10,735
We normally play
in New York at...
433
00:19:10,839 --> 00:19:13,531
- CBGB's, Pyramid.
- The Ritz when we can.
434
00:19:13,635 --> 00:19:14,981
The Ritz when we can.
We used to--
435
00:19:15,084 --> 00:19:16,707
Sonic Youth was producing us
436
00:19:16,810 --> 00:19:19,054
for Blast First Records,
437
00:19:19,158 --> 00:19:21,815
which was
their English record label.
438
00:19:21,919 --> 00:19:22,816
But it wasn't going well.
439
00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:23,921
Is it on?
440
00:19:24,024 --> 00:19:25,025
It didn't really work out
441
00:19:25,129 --> 00:19:26,958
because of the artistic
differences,
442
00:19:27,062 --> 00:19:28,891
which is unfortunate.
443
00:19:28,995 --> 00:19:30,790
♪ Distract you, where to
444
00:19:30,893 --> 00:19:33,655
We sort of had a souring
in the studio
445
00:19:33,758 --> 00:19:37,245
because the Lunachicks were
way too obnoxious
446
00:19:37,348 --> 00:19:39,626
to work with at that point.
447
00:19:41,041 --> 00:19:43,596
I think that Kim
and Thurston were attracted
448
00:19:43,699 --> 00:19:47,600
by the fact that we were very
young and we were amateurs.
449
00:19:47,703 --> 00:19:49,326
But we didn't want to be
amateurs.
450
00:19:49,429 --> 00:19:52,018
We really wanted to be
rock stars.
451
00:19:52,121 --> 00:19:56,471
So they wanted to bring out
the badly played chords
452
00:19:56,574 --> 00:19:59,439
or the broken
distortion pedal sound,
453
00:19:59,543 --> 00:20:02,891
and we were really kind of
embarrassed by that stuff.
454
00:20:02,994 --> 00:20:05,997
I mean, my hero was
AC/DC Angus Young
455
00:20:06,101 --> 00:20:07,654
and Tony Iommi.
456
00:20:07,758 --> 00:20:11,417
We really wanted to be,
like, heavy rock gods.
457
00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:13,660
I mean, we wanted
to sound like KISS.
458
00:20:13,764 --> 00:20:16,215
And that was not
her vision for us.
459
00:20:16,318 --> 00:20:20,080
So we were snotty,
and Kim stormed out,
460
00:20:20,184 --> 00:20:22,117
but the label already
had invested
461
00:20:22,221 --> 00:20:23,636
a couple bucks
into the recording.
462
00:20:23,739 --> 00:20:26,017
They thought it was
worth something.
463
00:20:26,121 --> 00:20:27,260
So we stayed with the label,
464
00:20:27,364 --> 00:20:29,987
and we scrambled to get
a girl drummer.
465
00:20:30,090 --> 00:20:32,231
We found out
about Becky Wreck,
466
00:20:32,334 --> 00:20:34,681
this crazy drummer girl
from Philly.
467
00:20:34,785 --> 00:20:37,132
She rolled into town
on this motorcycle,
468
00:20:37,236 --> 00:20:40,100
and she was super queer
and super cute
469
00:20:40,204 --> 00:20:42,655
and, like, a great drummer.
470
00:20:42,758 --> 00:20:45,244
She was a strong character.
471
00:20:45,347 --> 00:20:47,280
So we thought,
she'll be perfect.
472
00:20:47,384 --> 00:20:49,662
♪ Popping wheelies
on her motorbike ♪
473
00:20:49,765 --> 00:20:52,423
♪ Straight girls wish
they were dykes ♪
474
00:20:52,527 --> 00:20:55,081
I wrote the lyrics
for the L7 song
475
00:20:55,184 --> 00:20:56,255
"Fast and Frightening."
476
00:20:56,358 --> 00:20:58,498
"Popping wheelies
on her motorbike,
477
00:20:58,602 --> 00:21:00,776
straight girls wish
they were dykes,"
478
00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,469
is specifically about
Becky Wreck.
479
00:21:03,572 --> 00:21:06,299
♪ She's frightening
480
00:21:06,403 --> 00:21:08,508
This is how we found out
about L7,
481
00:21:08,612 --> 00:21:10,924
because Becky had also
482
00:21:11,028 --> 00:21:12,443
been contacted by L7,
who was looking for a drummer.
483
00:21:12,547 --> 00:21:14,514
So we were both
making her offers
484
00:21:14,618 --> 00:21:16,585
and fighting over her,
trying to get her.
485
00:21:16,689 --> 00:21:20,417
When we met Becky,
we were blown away by her.
486
00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:22,798
And we were like,
"We're getting Becky.
487
00:21:22,902 --> 00:21:24,731
"How do we get her?
488
00:21:24,835 --> 00:21:27,320
How do we steal her
and get her to move to LA?"
489
00:21:27,424 --> 00:21:28,528
And then she said,
490
00:21:28,632 --> 00:21:30,047
"No, I'm dedicated
to the Lunachicks.
491
00:21:30,150 --> 00:21:31,290
I'm gonna stay out here."
492
00:21:31,393 --> 00:21:33,395
And we were brokenhearted.
493
00:21:35,328 --> 00:21:37,365
The Lunachicks were funny,
494
00:21:37,468 --> 00:21:40,057
super smart hot chicks--
495
00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:42,404
young, crazy to be around.
496
00:21:42,508 --> 00:21:43,923
So much fun to be around.
497
00:21:44,026 --> 00:21:46,270
I felt like I have a chance
to be a part of something
498
00:21:46,374 --> 00:21:48,686
that nobody knows about yet.
499
00:21:48,790 --> 00:21:50,309
I think I knew
I could put them on the map.
500
00:21:50,412 --> 00:21:51,862
I think I really knew that.
501
00:21:51,965 --> 00:21:54,658
At an early age,
I knew women do not
502
00:21:54,761 --> 00:21:55,866
get treated the same as men.
503
00:21:55,969 --> 00:21:57,177
Like, something's wrong.
504
00:21:57,281 --> 00:21:58,524
In third grade,
when they ask us
505
00:21:58,627 --> 00:22:00,836
if you want to play
an instrument at school,
506
00:22:00,940 --> 00:22:03,183
I said, I want to play drums,
and everybody,
507
00:22:03,287 --> 00:22:04,392
"Why do you--
girls don't do that!
508
00:22:04,495 --> 00:22:05,289
Why do you want to do that?"
509
00:22:05,393 --> 00:22:06,601
So I had to go home.
510
00:22:06,704 --> 00:22:08,603
I had to have my mom
sign a form, which was--
511
00:22:08,706 --> 00:22:10,363
she made me put flute first.
512
00:22:10,467 --> 00:22:11,882
My teenage years--
513
00:22:11,985 --> 00:22:13,608
already feeling like,
I'm a woman,
514
00:22:13,711 --> 00:22:15,057
I'm gonna get treated
less than--
515
00:22:15,161 --> 00:22:16,680
I realize,
oh, my God, I'm gay.
516
00:22:16,783 --> 00:22:19,476
And that's--that's really bad.
517
00:22:19,579 --> 00:22:21,892
By then, I was really angry.
518
00:22:21,995 --> 00:22:22,893
I totally got into punk
519
00:22:22,996 --> 00:22:24,032
and rebelled against
everything else.
520
00:22:24,135 --> 00:22:25,205
I just wanted to play as fast
521
00:22:25,309 --> 00:22:27,898
as the Dead Kennedys
or Bad Brains.
522
00:22:28,001 --> 00:22:29,348
Nobody was even gonna
take me serious
523
00:22:29,451 --> 00:22:31,004
if I was just halfway decent.
524
00:22:34,629 --> 00:22:36,700
Whatever it is
that Sonic Youth saw,
525
00:22:36,803 --> 00:22:39,634
my playing was so hard
and in your face,
526
00:22:39,737 --> 00:22:42,188
it was the glue
that was gonna hold it
527
00:22:42,291 --> 00:22:43,569
and make it like, holy shit,
528
00:22:43,672 --> 00:22:45,156
there's something going on.
529
00:22:45,260 --> 00:22:47,607
Like, it's not just, like, in
the beginning stages anymore.
530
00:22:47,711 --> 00:22:49,368
Like, this is something.
531
00:22:51,024 --> 00:22:54,959
♪ Got a pus pocket
waiting for you ♪
532
00:22:55,063 --> 00:22:59,412
♪ Got a flesh bubble
from huffing too much glue ♪
533
00:22:59,516 --> 00:23:02,726
♪ I got a precious pimple
loaded with some goo ♪
534
00:23:02,829 --> 00:23:06,005
Early on, when Becky was
trying to figure out
535
00:23:06,108 --> 00:23:08,525
whether she even wanted
to be in our band,
536
00:23:08,628 --> 00:23:11,113
her and Syd started
a relationship.
537
00:23:11,217 --> 00:23:14,047
That might have been why
Becky ended up staying with us
538
00:23:14,151 --> 00:23:15,497
and not joining L7.
539
00:23:15,601 --> 00:23:17,050
That's my guess.
540
00:23:17,154 --> 00:23:18,604
It's always the girl.
541
00:23:20,226 --> 00:23:23,091
So me and Becky were
a couple for a while,
542
00:23:23,194 --> 00:23:26,025
which pissed everybody off.
543
00:23:26,128 --> 00:23:28,165
I mean, who the hell wants
to be in a band with a couple?
544
00:23:28,268 --> 00:23:29,477
Nobody.
545
00:23:30,339 --> 00:23:32,341
We did this four-song EP.
546
00:23:32,445 --> 00:23:33,722
We're 18.
547
00:23:33,826 --> 00:23:36,311
We get booked on this tour
of the UK
548
00:23:36,415 --> 00:23:37,692
with Dinosaur Jr.
549
00:23:37,795 --> 00:23:40,004
We pack our bags
and get on a plane,
550
00:23:40,108 --> 00:23:42,248
and it was on.
551
00:23:42,351 --> 00:23:44,250
♪ Lunachicks on the run
552
00:23:44,353 --> 00:23:46,217
♪ Lunachicks are having fun
553
00:23:46,321 --> 00:23:47,874
♪ Lunachicks make
lots of noise ♪
554
00:23:47,978 --> 00:23:50,290
♪ To prove rock 'n' roll's
not just for boys ♪
555
00:23:50,394 --> 00:23:51,775
♪ On the road and on the rag
556
00:23:51,878 --> 00:23:53,777
♪ We fucking rule
so we gotta brag ♪
557
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:55,572
♪ Gonna take over
the world someday ♪
558
00:23:55,675 --> 00:23:58,885
♪ Stay off our path
or get out of the way ♪
559
00:23:58,989 --> 00:24:01,612
Our first tour was
when we learned
560
00:24:01,716 --> 00:24:04,028
to be together--
in hotel rooms,
561
00:24:04,132 --> 00:24:06,790
in people's houses,
in the van.
562
00:24:06,893 --> 00:24:09,102
So many hours in the van.
563
00:24:09,206 --> 00:24:11,484
I remember thinking,
564
00:24:11,588 --> 00:24:12,796
this is what it is?
565
00:24:12,899 --> 00:24:14,798
I mean, this is
how it's gonna be?
566
00:24:14,901 --> 00:24:16,006
This is it?
567
00:24:16,109 --> 00:24:17,559
♪ This is serious
568
00:24:17,663 --> 00:24:19,354
Peeing in the parking lot.
569
00:24:19,458 --> 00:24:21,252
Peeing everywhere.
570
00:24:21,356 --> 00:24:25,360
Theo was unarguably the master
of peeing in a cup.
571
00:24:25,464 --> 00:24:26,603
Periods.
572
00:24:26,706 --> 00:24:28,708
We would all get on
the same schedule.
573
00:24:28,812 --> 00:24:30,538
Hormones. Not cute.
574
00:24:30,641 --> 00:24:32,298
♪ Step off
575
00:24:32,401 --> 00:24:33,817
Of course, tons of snacks.
576
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,820
We were teenagers,
and we would get somewhere
577
00:24:36,923 --> 00:24:39,443
and immediately want to go
to wherever there was candy
578
00:24:39,547 --> 00:24:41,480
and try whatever we could.
579
00:24:41,583 --> 00:24:43,205
It was like Willy Wonka
going in and finding
580
00:24:43,309 --> 00:24:44,931
these candies
you had never seen before
581
00:24:45,035 --> 00:24:48,176
that were so beautiful
and, like, pink and gummies.
582
00:24:48,279 --> 00:24:50,419
And it was incredible.
583
00:24:52,939 --> 00:24:55,424
We had to stop sometimes
at two or three borders
584
00:24:55,528 --> 00:24:58,220
in a single day,
and there was no
585
00:24:58,324 --> 00:25:00,360
being waved through borders
for the Lunachicks.
586
00:25:00,464 --> 00:25:03,432
No border said,
"You guys are all right.
587
00:25:03,536 --> 00:25:05,124
Keep driving."
588
00:25:05,227 --> 00:25:07,402
We're driving around
with a rubber chicken
589
00:25:07,506 --> 00:25:11,820
and giant flies
and big plastic bones.
590
00:25:11,924 --> 00:25:14,789
And we were searched
regularly.
591
00:25:14,892 --> 00:25:17,516
Sometimes dogs,
sometimes no dogs,
592
00:25:17,619 --> 00:25:20,449
although we did also
have border guards
593
00:25:20,553 --> 00:25:23,452
that then we put
on the guest list.
594
00:25:23,556 --> 00:25:25,903
Early on, it was all fun.
595
00:25:26,007 --> 00:25:28,734
We were the best of friends.
596
00:25:28,837 --> 00:25:30,805
Right, uh, after
that little historical note,
597
00:25:30,908 --> 00:25:32,185
to the Lunachicks
and first from them
598
00:25:32,289 --> 00:25:35,706
in session tonight,
"Binge and Purge."
599
00:25:35,810 --> 00:25:38,467
We were on Blast First
for only one album.
600
00:25:38,571 --> 00:25:41,781
We recorded "Binge and Purge"
on an American label.
601
00:25:41,885 --> 00:25:45,992
♪ Binge and purge
602
00:25:46,096 --> 00:25:48,374
We went on our first
American tour
603
00:25:48,477 --> 00:25:50,134
opening up for the Dictators.
604
00:25:50,238 --> 00:25:52,205
It was called
the Chicks 'n' Dicks tour.
605
00:25:52,309 --> 00:25:55,346
Dictators have passed
the punk rock baton
606
00:25:55,450 --> 00:25:56,727
to The Lunachicks.
607
00:25:56,831 --> 00:25:58,246
Have you known each other
for a while or what?
608
00:25:58,349 --> 00:25:59,385
Some of us did.
609
00:25:59,488 --> 00:26:01,421
From hangin' around downtown.
610
00:26:01,525 --> 00:26:03,216
And, uh, that's how we met.
611
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:04,217
In the street.
612
00:26:05,943 --> 00:26:07,600
We want to know
about the Lunachicks.
613
00:26:07,704 --> 00:26:10,016
We had a name for ourselves
in England,
614
00:26:10,120 --> 00:26:14,400
but in America, we were
a very underground band.
615
00:26:14,503 --> 00:26:16,402
We were playing small venues.
616
00:26:16,505 --> 00:26:17,748
This was punk rock.
617
00:26:17,852 --> 00:26:19,370
This was total punk rock.
618
00:26:26,550 --> 00:26:28,448
♪ Cuttin' in the bathroom,
waiting for that bell ♪
619
00:26:28,552 --> 00:26:30,243
♪ They say its high school,
but I think its hell ♪
620
00:26:30,347 --> 00:26:31,486
♪ Puffin' a joint
621
00:26:31,590 --> 00:26:33,971
I'm Jewish,
but I grew up in New York,
622
00:26:34,075 --> 00:26:35,870
and I thought, like,
everybody was Jewish.
623
00:26:35,973 --> 00:26:38,286
And then we started touring
in the United States,
624
00:26:38,389 --> 00:26:41,565
and they're like,
"Wow, it's a real live Jew!"
625
00:26:41,669 --> 00:26:43,084
So the obvious thing to do
would just be
626
00:26:43,187 --> 00:26:46,087
to write Jew on your face
as big as you could,
627
00:26:46,190 --> 00:26:48,434
especially if you were playing
with Social Distortion
628
00:26:48,537 --> 00:26:49,608
and there was gonna be, like,
629
00:26:49,711 --> 00:26:52,783
a thousand racist
skinheads there.
630
00:26:52,887 --> 00:26:54,716
Back then,
guys would just take over
631
00:26:54,820 --> 00:26:56,235
and slam into everybody,
632
00:26:56,338 --> 00:26:58,996
and the girls would get
stomped or pushed around,
633
00:26:59,100 --> 00:27:02,655
grabbed, groped,
molested by the audience.
634
00:27:02,759 --> 00:27:04,519
That's not OK--
you can't fuckin do that,
635
00:27:04,623 --> 00:27:06,072
especially not
at one of our shows.
636
00:27:07,902 --> 00:27:11,215
Girls and young women
could be at the front,
637
00:27:11,319 --> 00:27:14,943
be in the center,
express themselves, dance,
638
00:27:15,047 --> 00:27:17,325
and know that we were
looking out for them.
639
00:27:17,428 --> 00:27:19,948
Theo would stop the show
640
00:27:20,052 --> 00:27:21,570
if she saw something
out of line.
641
00:27:21,674 --> 00:27:23,607
Those were our girls.
642
00:27:23,711 --> 00:27:25,298
Stop, stop, stop, stop!
643
00:27:25,402 --> 00:27:27,162
Stop! Stop!
644
00:27:27,266 --> 00:27:29,544
What the fuck are you doing, asshole?
645
00:27:31,822 --> 00:27:34,031
Just cut it out.
646
00:27:37,379 --> 00:27:41,452
You are obviously bothering
these women a lot, okay?
647
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,289
Everything was always
centered around Becky.
648
00:27:50,392 --> 00:27:52,394
Just picture, like,
the Tasmanian devil
649
00:27:52,498 --> 00:27:54,396
with a whirlwind around her.
650
00:27:55,915 --> 00:27:57,503
She did her whole
Howard Stern thing.
651
00:27:57,606 --> 00:27:59,091
Come on out, Becky.
652
00:27:59,194 --> 00:28:00,851
- Becky Wreck!
- Becky Wreck here. She is--
653
00:28:00,955 --> 00:28:03,129
Howard Stern had
a cable show.
654
00:28:03,233 --> 00:28:05,373
He was, like, probably
the number one
655
00:28:05,476 --> 00:28:07,099
shock jock in New York.
656
00:28:07,202 --> 00:28:10,689
And I went on a lot
because--whatever.
657
00:28:11,931 --> 00:28:14,589
I was willing to kiss girls
on TV.
658
00:28:14,693 --> 00:28:15,797
All the women go wild
for you.
659
00:28:15,901 --> 00:28:18,248
Isn't that true?
- Yeah.
660
00:28:18,351 --> 00:28:20,629
All this notoriety happened
after that.
661
00:28:20,733 --> 00:28:21,596
So we'd be at the airport--
it'd be like,
662
00:28:21,700 --> 00:28:23,874
"Oh, Howard Stern!"
663
00:28:23,978 --> 00:28:26,152
A lot of the fighting
and the drama
664
00:28:26,256 --> 00:28:29,777
had to do with the fact
that we were a couple.
665
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:31,710
Syd was my best friend.
666
00:28:31,813 --> 00:28:33,988
We did everything together.
667
00:28:34,091 --> 00:28:36,956
I was the voice of reason.
668
00:28:37,060 --> 00:28:40,373
You know, the older and wiser.
669
00:28:40,477 --> 00:28:42,065
And then along came Becky,
670
00:28:42,168 --> 00:28:45,654
and she snatches my bestie
671
00:28:45,758 --> 00:28:48,934
and turns her into,
like, somebody else.
672
00:28:49,037 --> 00:28:50,970
So we were
a little bit at odds.
673
00:28:51,074 --> 00:28:51,937
Not a little bit at odds.
674
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:55,664
We were--we had some issues.
675
00:28:55,768 --> 00:28:57,045
I think, by far,
676
00:28:57,149 --> 00:28:59,668
Sindi was, like,
the toughest Lunachick.
677
00:28:59,772 --> 00:29:01,740
Maybe she felt like
I was competition.
678
00:29:01,843 --> 00:29:03,776
But I just felt like,
fuck, she's badass.
679
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:05,813
Like, yeah,
we're on the same team.
680
00:29:07,815 --> 00:29:09,402
The feelings
across the board
681
00:29:09,506 --> 00:29:11,750
were always intense.
682
00:29:11,853 --> 00:29:14,131
We were playing this show
in England.
683
00:29:14,235 --> 00:29:16,099
There was, like,
a huge mosh pit.
684
00:29:16,202 --> 00:29:19,585
Sindi dumps her guitar
and dives into the audience.
685
00:29:19,688 --> 00:29:22,484
I dove into the crowd.
686
00:29:22,588 --> 00:29:24,832
It took about two seconds,
687
00:29:24,935 --> 00:29:27,696
and I was, like,
fucking naked.
688
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,769
The clothes were gone.
689
00:29:30,872 --> 00:29:32,598
I saw her shirt come
ripped up like this
690
00:29:32,701 --> 00:29:35,325
and hands on her,
and I freaked out,
691
00:29:35,428 --> 00:29:37,189
and I stopped playing,
and I ran over,
692
00:29:37,292 --> 00:29:39,501
and we're trying
to get security
693
00:29:39,605 --> 00:29:42,608
to get her back to the stage
and get her safe,
694
00:29:42,711 --> 00:29:43,816
'cause I saw the look
on her face.
695
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:45,887
She was horrified.
696
00:29:45,991 --> 00:29:48,994
But I think she felt like
she had to play it off.
697
00:29:49,097 --> 00:29:53,308
And her being tough about it
confused me.
698
00:29:53,412 --> 00:29:55,345
Becky got furious.
699
00:29:55,448 --> 00:29:57,623
She got furious at me.
700
00:29:57,726 --> 00:30:02,524
I understand that she maybe
felt violated herself somehow.
701
00:30:02,628 --> 00:30:05,734
But it was really not cool.
702
00:30:05,838 --> 00:30:08,358
The last thing she needed
was someone to yell at her.
703
00:30:08,461 --> 00:30:10,222
But I was only coming
from, like,
704
00:30:10,325 --> 00:30:12,017
"You did something
where we can't protect you.
705
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:13,535
Don't ever do that," you know.
706
00:30:13,639 --> 00:30:15,468
Like, that's kind of
how I felt.
707
00:30:16,815 --> 00:30:20,370
You know, that was really
fucked up that that happened.
708
00:30:22,682 --> 00:30:23,891
I can--I--I--
709
00:30:23,994 --> 00:30:26,272
you know, I can still see it.
710
00:30:26,376 --> 00:30:28,447
And it was, like--
it was really fucked up.
711
00:30:30,932 --> 00:30:33,141
You still wanna bother people,
meet us outside.
712
00:30:33,245 --> 00:30:35,247
Me and every single fucking
girl in this place,
713
00:30:35,350 --> 00:30:37,766
and we'll fuckin stomp
your ass off.
714
00:30:53,644 --> 00:30:55,646
♪ Your crotch is burning
715
00:30:55,750 --> 00:30:58,028
♪ Well, ain't that a shame
716
00:30:58,132 --> 00:31:03,033
♪ Too bad that
I'm not the one to blame ♪
717
00:31:03,137 --> 00:31:05,104
♪ Take this
718
00:31:05,208 --> 00:31:08,073
♪ Take that, take that
719
00:31:08,176 --> 00:31:13,216
♪ But no one is ever gonna take
my fucking rights back ♪
720
00:31:15,114 --> 00:31:21,880
♪ Don't touch me
in the streets, no ♪
721
00:31:21,983 --> 00:31:23,571
We were going to play
Reading Festival.
722
00:31:23,674 --> 00:31:25,124
It was fucking exciting.
723
00:31:25,228 --> 00:31:26,988
♪ Chicks are super strong
724
00:31:27,092 --> 00:31:28,058
We were like,
725
00:31:28,162 --> 00:31:29,818
"Becky you can't take
any drugs over."
726
00:31:31,441 --> 00:31:32,994
They would say,
"This is when we're leaving.
727
00:31:33,098 --> 00:31:34,513
"You better clean up.
728
00:31:34,616 --> 00:31:36,722
Plenty of time to get
your shit together, Becky."
729
00:31:36,825 --> 00:31:38,241
And I, "Yeah, yeah, yeah."
730
00:31:38,344 --> 00:31:41,140
And no, no, no, 'cause I had
a ten-bag-a-day heroin habit.
731
00:31:44,281 --> 00:31:46,559
Reading Festival was
a huge deal,
732
00:31:46,663 --> 00:31:48,527
and Nirvana was playing.
733
00:31:48,630 --> 00:31:52,151
Nirvana was on Sub Pop,
and then they broke.
734
00:31:52,255 --> 00:31:56,466
And the industry realized
you can have punk-based music
735
00:31:56,569 --> 00:32:00,090
be commercially successful
as well.
736
00:32:00,194 --> 00:32:02,506
There were very high
expectations on everybody
737
00:32:02,610 --> 00:32:06,096
from the underground because
Nirvana did so gangbusters.
738
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,443
But it was really
kind of a cool era
739
00:32:08,547 --> 00:32:10,169
because there were
a lot of female bands
740
00:32:10,273 --> 00:32:12,758
playing aggressive rock.
741
00:32:12,861 --> 00:32:14,898
Us, The Breeders, Lunachicks,
742
00:32:15,002 --> 00:32:16,900
7 Year Bitch,
Babes in Toyland,
743
00:32:17,004 --> 00:32:18,937
and later Riot Grrrl.
744
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:20,904
We were all kind of
banded together,
745
00:32:21,008 --> 00:32:22,768
I think,
in supporting each other.
746
00:32:24,666 --> 00:32:27,083
We have been thinking
about playing a show.
747
00:32:27,186 --> 00:32:28,463
Stop thinking,
748
00:32:28,567 --> 00:32:31,397
because thinking has
never helped.
749
00:32:31,501 --> 00:32:34,090
You just go do
what you're built to go do.
750
00:32:34,193 --> 00:32:37,196
Even if you don't
physically do something,
751
00:32:37,300 --> 00:32:39,992
your spirit or soul
or subconscious
752
00:32:40,096 --> 00:32:42,615
is still doing it,
because you're made to do it,
753
00:32:42,719 --> 00:32:45,549
and you will walk on
like you had never left
754
00:32:45,653 --> 00:32:47,793
and do what you're built to do.
- Yeah.
755
00:32:47,896 --> 00:32:51,348
I think that the time is now
for a Lunachicks reunion.
756
00:32:53,212 --> 00:32:56,077
We did sell out
Irving Plaza, remember?
757
00:32:56,181 --> 00:32:57,458
That was such a fun show.
758
00:32:57,561 --> 00:32:59,736
We could play a show
in the next six months
759
00:32:59,839 --> 00:33:02,670
or whenever we wanted to,
if we were gonna do, like,
760
00:33:02,773 --> 00:33:06,674
you know, like, just,
like, New York or LA
761
00:33:06,777 --> 00:33:08,124
or, you know, whatever.
762
00:33:08,227 --> 00:33:10,402
Like, we can--I don't think
we'd need a whole year.
763
00:33:10,505 --> 00:33:12,818
I want to wait
as long as possible.
764
00:33:12,921 --> 00:33:14,785
I gotta mentally prepare.
765
00:33:14,889 --> 00:33:16,787
I gotta physically prepare.
766
00:33:16,891 --> 00:33:20,412
Um, I don't know.
I don't know.
767
00:33:20,515 --> 00:33:24,381
I mean, I don't see my life
slowing down at all.
768
00:33:24,485 --> 00:33:28,351
So I just feel like there's
never gonna be a good time.
769
00:33:28,454 --> 00:33:31,975
It seems like
every '90s band is on tour,
770
00:33:32,079 --> 00:33:34,391
so... everybody's doing it.
771
00:33:34,495 --> 00:33:37,153
♪ The ice is on fire,
Antarctica burns ♪
772
00:33:37,256 --> 00:33:38,982
All I remember
about the Lunachicks
773
00:33:39,086 --> 00:33:40,846
is that every time I saw them,
774
00:33:40,949 --> 00:33:45,126
I was high on LSD,
blackout drunk,
775
00:33:45,230 --> 00:33:46,127
and they were
good-looking girls
776
00:33:46,231 --> 00:33:47,680
until they got on stage,
777
00:33:47,784 --> 00:33:49,717
and then they turned
into a bunch of old ladies.
778
00:33:51,339 --> 00:33:52,720
Is that Gina Volpe?
779
00:33:56,137 --> 00:33:58,622
You guys played
with GWAR a lot.
780
00:33:58,726 --> 00:34:02,419
The Lunachicks were
more than a band.
781
00:34:02,523 --> 00:34:04,697
It was a gang.
782
00:34:04,801 --> 00:34:06,492
Like, it was--
783
00:34:06,596 --> 00:34:08,391
I can't remember what it was,
but you were like,
784
00:34:08,494 --> 00:34:10,910
"You can't tie
a Lunachick down!"
785
00:34:11,014 --> 00:34:12,360
You're not talking
about regular girls,
786
00:34:12,464 --> 00:34:13,706
these are Lunachicks here!
787
00:34:13,810 --> 00:34:15,260
You can't tie me down!
788
00:34:15,363 --> 00:34:17,193
You can't tie down
a Lunachick.
789
00:34:17,296 --> 00:34:19,712
You gotta be free.
790
00:34:19,816 --> 00:34:22,198
I remember the time GWAR was
on "The Joan Rivers Show."
791
00:34:22,301 --> 00:34:23,647
You know,
the Lunachicks are in it.
792
00:34:23,751 --> 00:34:24,614
We're in the front row.
793
00:34:24,717 --> 00:34:26,409
Yeah, "Yay!" Cheering.
794
00:34:26,512 --> 00:34:28,997
As Oderus Urungus,
lead singer of GWAR...
795
00:34:29,101 --> 00:34:33,588
Dave Brockie, rest his soul,
he was a huge Lunachicks fan.
796
00:34:33,692 --> 00:34:35,659
We were banished here
to serve eternal penance.
797
00:34:35,763 --> 00:34:38,214
We would tour with GWAR,
and by then,
798
00:34:38,317 --> 00:34:40,147
Syd was dating Oderus,
the singer.
799
00:34:40,250 --> 00:34:41,493
I was very jealous,
800
00:34:41,596 --> 00:34:43,978
so I was starting shit
with him.
801
00:34:44,082 --> 00:34:47,223
The only thing more fun than
being in a band with a couple
802
00:34:47,326 --> 00:34:48,638
is being in a band
with a couple
803
00:34:48,741 --> 00:34:49,880
who's breaking up.
804
00:34:51,019 --> 00:34:52,469
It got so dark.
805
00:34:52,573 --> 00:34:55,645
There was this cloud of, like,
anger and bad energy,
806
00:34:55,748 --> 00:34:57,129
and the drugs got worse,
807
00:34:57,233 --> 00:34:59,649
and they were a mess,
and it was--it was toxic.
808
00:35:00,788 --> 00:35:02,790
I thought
all their good ways,
809
00:35:02,893 --> 00:35:05,344
I was hoping that
it would rub off on me.
810
00:35:05,448 --> 00:35:07,105
I really, really was.
811
00:35:07,208 --> 00:35:08,899
But that's not what happened.
812
00:35:09,003 --> 00:35:10,280
I was doing heroin.
813
00:35:10,384 --> 00:35:11,868
Nothing was more important
to me than doing heroin.
814
00:35:13,835 --> 00:35:17,080
The final show with her was
with Murphy's Law,
815
00:35:17,184 --> 00:35:18,357
and it was Halloween.
816
00:35:18,461 --> 00:35:19,945
We all wore, like, bald wigs
817
00:35:20,048 --> 00:35:22,430
and mustaches and plaid suits,
818
00:35:22,534 --> 00:35:24,329
and she was so high
that it was, like,
819
00:35:24,432 --> 00:35:25,951
in slow motion, you know?
820
00:35:26,054 --> 00:35:27,815
So that was kind of it.
821
00:35:27,918 --> 00:35:29,541
Either they kicked me out
or I quit
822
00:35:29,644 --> 00:35:31,405
and then thought
they'd ask me back,
823
00:35:31,508 --> 00:35:33,200
but they probably
kicked me out.
824
00:35:33,303 --> 00:35:34,580
And I--and I probably thought,
825
00:35:34,684 --> 00:35:36,134
"Ha, what are they gonna do
without me?"
826
00:35:36,237 --> 00:35:38,722
Well, they did a lot
without me, so...
827
00:35:40,414 --> 00:35:42,209
Then we took our friend
Kate Schellenbach,
828
00:35:42,312 --> 00:35:44,211
who is in Luscious Jackson,
829
00:35:44,314 --> 00:35:46,661
we took her out for a tour.
830
00:35:50,562 --> 00:35:52,805
I got a call
from one of the Lunachicks
831
00:35:52,909 --> 00:35:55,394
saying that they were doing
a tour of North America.
832
00:35:55,498 --> 00:35:56,533
"Can you play drums for us?"
833
00:35:56,637 --> 00:35:58,052
And I was like,
"Oh, my God, yes."
834
00:35:58,156 --> 00:35:59,191
I was so psyched.
835
00:35:59,295 --> 00:36:00,951
It was like being asked
to play drums
836
00:36:01,055 --> 00:36:02,125
for, like, your favorite band.
837
00:36:02,229 --> 00:36:03,471
It was like, so fucking cool.
838
00:36:03,575 --> 00:36:05,266
Hey, Marsha,
that was really groovy.
839
00:36:05,370 --> 00:36:07,165
I first heard the Lunachicks
840
00:36:07,268 --> 00:36:08,856
when there was some
college radio station
841
00:36:08,959 --> 00:36:10,444
playing "Jan Brady,"
842
00:36:10,547 --> 00:36:12,308
and I was like,
what the fuck is this?
843
00:36:12,411 --> 00:36:15,932
♪ Well, I am Jan Brady
844
00:36:16,035 --> 00:36:18,728
I was obsessed,
played it, like, nonstop.
845
00:36:18,831 --> 00:36:21,317
Then they were playing
a show at Pyramid.
846
00:36:21,420 --> 00:36:23,457
They came out--
they said Theo was killed
847
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:25,424
and that she wasn't gonna be
performing tonight
848
00:36:25,528 --> 00:36:28,358
'cause she was killed
by Nadia Comaneci, the gymnast.
849
00:36:28,462 --> 00:36:30,015
I would like
a really warm welcome
850
00:36:30,118 --> 00:36:31,741
for Mrs. Nadia Comaneci.
851
00:36:31,844 --> 00:36:34,088
And so out came
Nadia Comaneci,
852
00:36:34,192 --> 00:36:35,883
which was Theo
in, like, pigtails
853
00:36:35,986 --> 00:36:37,264
and, like, a tracksuit.
854
00:36:38,023 --> 00:36:39,887
I am very happy to be here.
855
00:36:44,063 --> 00:36:46,894
Makin' It With Other Species
856
00:36:49,276 --> 00:36:50,725
They fuckin' rocked.
857
00:36:50,829 --> 00:36:53,625
I was so thrilled
and so pumped.
858
00:36:53,728 --> 00:36:56,006
Once I saw them,
everything changed.
859
00:36:56,110 --> 00:36:57,870
I swear,
if I hadn't heard them,
860
00:36:57,974 --> 00:36:59,596
there probably would not
have been Luscious Jackson
861
00:36:59,700 --> 00:37:02,185
in the form that it was,
so it really was
862
00:37:02,289 --> 00:37:04,083
a huge, huge thing for me.
863
00:37:11,332 --> 00:37:14,266
♪ Pick, pick, pick,
it's makin' me sick ♪
864
00:37:14,370 --> 00:37:16,475
♪ I wish the sleep fairy
would come do the trick ♪
865
00:37:16,579 --> 00:37:21,618
♪ Oh, yeah, oh, yeah
866
00:37:21,722 --> 00:37:23,931
Back then,
there's no Internet.
867
00:37:24,034 --> 00:37:26,589
There's no social media.
868
00:37:26,692 --> 00:37:29,212
The only way to let people
know you had a show,
869
00:37:29,316 --> 00:37:31,179
you had to make a flyer
870
00:37:31,283 --> 00:37:33,837
and paste it
all over the city.
871
00:37:33,941 --> 00:37:35,494
And then when
you were on tour,
872
00:37:35,598 --> 00:37:37,738
you would start organizing
street teams.
873
00:37:37,841 --> 00:37:40,499
And these are just dedicated
fans who'd hand out fliers
874
00:37:40,603 --> 00:37:42,294
and tell people
about your shows.
875
00:37:42,398 --> 00:37:43,606
♪ Toss and turn,
toss and turn ♪
876
00:37:43,709 --> 00:37:46,436
Being an all-female act
from New York
877
00:37:46,540 --> 00:37:50,682
was a novelty
and made people take notice.
878
00:37:50,785 --> 00:37:54,306
You have to then keep them
looking and listening.
879
00:37:54,410 --> 00:37:56,860
And that we were able to do
on our own merit.
880
00:38:02,003 --> 00:38:04,868
It was so much fun
touring with Kate.
881
00:38:04,972 --> 00:38:06,939
But she needed to play
with Luscious Jackson,
882
00:38:07,043 --> 00:38:09,425
so we knew it was temporary.
883
00:38:09,528 --> 00:38:11,703
We found ourselves
two albums in,
884
00:38:11,806 --> 00:38:14,395
and a few years now
down the road,
885
00:38:14,499 --> 00:38:15,534
we were looking for a label.
886
00:38:15,638 --> 00:38:16,673
We didn't have a manager.
887
00:38:16,777 --> 00:38:18,088
We were looking for a drummer.
888
00:38:19,987 --> 00:38:21,471
We met Chip the first time
889
00:38:21,575 --> 00:38:23,646
we were looking for drummers
before Becky,
890
00:38:23,749 --> 00:38:26,062
and we thought
she was so cool,
891
00:38:26,165 --> 00:38:29,962
and we wanted her
to be in the band,
892
00:38:30,066 --> 00:38:32,758
and she said no.
893
00:38:32,862 --> 00:38:36,417
I'm from a small town
in Pennsylvania.
894
00:38:36,521 --> 00:38:38,730
In kindergarten, they offered
895
00:38:38,833 --> 00:38:41,077
musical instruments
to everybody.
896
00:38:41,180 --> 00:38:42,458
So I went,
"I'm playing the drums!
897
00:38:42,561 --> 00:38:43,976
That's what I want to do."
898
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:47,704
And the teacher would always
hand the drums to the boys.
899
00:38:47,808 --> 00:38:50,742
So I was like, "Why--why can't
I be handed the drums?"
900
00:38:52,330 --> 00:38:55,333
Being gay and not out
in Pennsylvania
901
00:38:55,436 --> 00:38:59,026
at the age of 13, 14, 15, 16,
902
00:38:59,129 --> 00:39:00,510
I didn't like anybody.
903
00:39:00,614 --> 00:39:05,135
There was nobody
to strive to be part of.
904
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:08,138
You know? I--I wanted better.
905
00:39:08,242 --> 00:39:11,003
And better was New York.
906
00:39:12,419 --> 00:39:14,973
I came upon Lunachicks
early on.
907
00:39:15,076 --> 00:39:18,597
They were very young,
and I auditioned for them,
908
00:39:18,701 --> 00:39:19,736
and they said, like,
"Yeah, cool.
909
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:21,531
We want you as our drummer."
910
00:39:21,635 --> 00:39:25,639
So I called Squid
to set up a rehearsal,
911
00:39:25,742 --> 00:39:27,779
and her dad answered
the phone,
912
00:39:27,882 --> 00:39:29,401
and I said,
"Yeah, is Squid there?"
913
00:39:29,505 --> 00:39:32,093
And you could tell he was
yelling up the stairs,
914
00:39:32,197 --> 00:39:34,372
"Sydney,
you have a phone call!"
915
00:39:34,475 --> 00:39:37,236
And I was like,
"What the hell?"
916
00:39:37,340 --> 00:39:38,790
And I think I told them,
it's like,
917
00:39:38,893 --> 00:39:40,274
"Oh, you know, look,
I can't do this.
918
00:39:40,378 --> 00:39:42,414
I've got some other things
going on."
919
00:39:42,518 --> 00:39:45,210
Years later, we just
called her up and said,
920
00:39:45,313 --> 00:39:46,660
"Hey, we have a tour coming up.
921
00:39:46,763 --> 00:39:48,386
"Will you come
on the tour with us,
922
00:39:48,489 --> 00:39:50,146
and we'll just see
how it goes?'"
923
00:39:50,249 --> 00:39:52,942
So I went on tour
with the Lunachicks to Europe,
924
00:39:53,045 --> 00:39:56,324
and it was the greatest
fuckin' thing ever.
925
00:39:56,428 --> 00:39:59,120
♪ Lookin' at you
with your seven toes ♪
926
00:39:59,224 --> 00:40:01,882
♪ Always there
when I'm tastin' the woes ♪
927
00:40:01,985 --> 00:40:04,574
♪ Your shit stinks
worse than the rest ♪
928
00:40:04,678 --> 00:40:06,921
♪ But my honey, I think
you're the best ♪
929
00:40:07,025 --> 00:40:10,097
In England,
there was one show
930
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:12,202
maybe two weeks into the tour
931
00:40:12,306 --> 00:40:14,481
where we're in
a dressing room,
932
00:40:14,584 --> 00:40:16,966
and there was, like,
a big glass mirror
933
00:40:17,069 --> 00:40:18,588
in the dressing room.
934
00:40:18,692 --> 00:40:21,004
After the gig,
the girls are, like,
935
00:40:21,108 --> 00:40:23,938
stripped down naked--
you know, like, fhoosh--
936
00:40:24,042 --> 00:40:26,320
and I'm looking at
this mirror,
937
00:40:26,424 --> 00:40:28,322
and it didn't sit right
with me.
938
00:40:28,426 --> 00:40:30,669
So I looked in the mirror,
and it's like,
939
00:40:30,773 --> 00:40:33,189
"That kind of seems like
something's back behind that."
940
00:40:33,292 --> 00:40:36,019
And I went outside the door
and I opened the door,
941
00:40:36,123 --> 00:40:37,296
and three guys came running
942
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,678
out of the door
behind the wall.
943
00:40:39,782 --> 00:40:40,921
And I went in to the girls.
944
00:40:41,024 --> 00:40:44,649
I'm like,
"There's a two-way mirror.
945
00:40:44,752 --> 00:40:46,823
This is a two-way mirror,
you guys."
946
00:40:46,927 --> 00:40:48,480
So we realized
that they were, like,
947
00:40:48,584 --> 00:40:52,760
watching us change,
and we were so pissed.
948
00:40:52,864 --> 00:40:55,556
I just remember
seeing the girls
949
00:40:55,660 --> 00:40:58,283
having, like, a look
on their face of just being,
950
00:40:58,386 --> 00:41:01,666
you know, like, violated,
951
00:41:01,769 --> 00:41:04,945
and that struck a thing in me.
952
00:41:05,048 --> 00:41:09,190
So all hell broke loose,
and Chip was right there,
953
00:41:09,294 --> 00:41:12,262
ready to beat the shit
out of these guys.
954
00:41:12,366 --> 00:41:16,059
I took a chair, and I
smashed it through the window.
955
00:41:16,163 --> 00:41:17,854
I did one of those things
with the rungs of the chair.
956
00:41:17,958 --> 00:41:19,511
I just, like, went...
957
00:41:19,615 --> 00:41:23,619
And I started picking up
lights, going, smash!
958
00:41:23,722 --> 00:41:25,552
I believe we were all
wearing tutus.
959
00:41:25,655 --> 00:41:29,176
So we surrounded the owner
in our tutus.
960
00:41:29,279 --> 00:41:33,042
"There's a two-way fucking
mirror, you fucking assholes!"
961
00:41:33,145 --> 00:41:34,975
"What, what? No, no, no."
962
00:41:35,078 --> 00:41:37,080
And Squid's like, "Yeah,
there's a two-way mirror!"
963
00:41:37,184 --> 00:41:40,152
They're like, "Well,
what do you want us to do?"
964
00:41:40,256 --> 00:41:41,429
And Syd was like,
965
00:41:41,533 --> 00:41:42,983
"You take off
your fucking pants!"
966
00:41:43,086 --> 00:41:45,848
And, like, made the guy
pull his pants down.
967
00:41:47,194 --> 00:41:49,437
Imagine these
demented Barbie dolls
968
00:41:49,541 --> 00:41:51,819
standing over you in tutus
and, like, blacked out teeth,
969
00:41:51,923 --> 00:41:53,752
like, "Now you take off
your pants!"
970
00:41:53,856 --> 00:41:55,340
We're all like, "Yeah!"
971
00:41:55,443 --> 00:41:57,135
And he did.
He took his pants down.
972
00:41:57,238 --> 00:41:59,309
What is he gonna do?
973
00:41:59,413 --> 00:42:02,623
We reported it to some tabloid
just to get the word out.
974
00:42:02,727 --> 00:42:05,143
Like, this is so wrong.
975
00:42:05,246 --> 00:42:08,871
But the next day after that,
the band came to me
976
00:42:08,974 --> 00:42:13,392
saying,
"We want you in the band.
977
00:42:13,496 --> 00:42:16,464
Do you think you could be
our drummer?"
978
00:42:16,568 --> 00:42:18,881
And I was like, "Yeah, yeah."
979
00:42:18,984 --> 00:42:21,124
It's like, if that was
my initiation, like...
980
00:42:21,228 --> 00:42:23,402
"We want you in the band.
Just join the band.
981
00:42:23,506 --> 00:42:25,439
Come on, you're one of us."
982
00:42:25,543 --> 00:42:27,165
So she did.
983
00:42:27,268 --> 00:42:29,961
♪ Walk in front of a car
at the mall ♪
984
00:42:30,064 --> 00:42:32,377
♪ Trip and fall in the hall
985
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:34,137
♪ Smash your head
against the wall ♪
986
00:42:34,241 --> 00:42:37,693
♪ You want to die,
I can see it in your eyes ♪
987
00:42:37,796 --> 00:42:40,109
♪ Rob a bank, tip the boat,
sell yourself ♪
988
00:42:40,212 --> 00:42:41,144
♪ Break the law
989
00:42:43,491 --> 00:42:47,357
♪ I like you better
990
00:42:47,461 --> 00:42:50,706
When Chip joined the band,
we became tighter, faster.
991
00:42:50,809 --> 00:42:54,261
We had kind of reached
a new level.
992
00:42:54,364 --> 00:42:59,542
It really became the machine
that it was meant to be.
993
00:42:59,646 --> 00:43:00,819
We were looking for a label,
994
00:43:00,923 --> 00:43:02,614
and we met with Go Kart,
995
00:43:02,718 --> 00:43:04,616
and they were just
starting out.
996
00:43:04,720 --> 00:43:06,584
Greg basically said to us,
997
00:43:06,687 --> 00:43:09,621
"Because I'm new at this
and eager,
998
00:43:09,725 --> 00:43:12,072
I'm gonna make everything
about you guys."
999
00:43:12,175 --> 00:43:14,074
And he did.
1000
00:43:14,177 --> 00:43:17,077
He put all of his time,
energy, and money into
1001
00:43:17,180 --> 00:43:19,666
getting "Jerk Of All Trades"
up and running.
1002
00:43:19,769 --> 00:43:20,908
- ♪ She can dance
- ♪ She can sing
1003
00:43:21,012 --> 00:43:22,220
both:
♪ She can do most anything
1004
00:43:22,323 --> 00:43:24,809
♪ She is the jerk,
the jerk of all trades ♪
1005
00:43:24,912 --> 00:43:26,051
- ♪ She can build
- ♪ She can fight
1006
00:43:26,155 --> 00:43:27,570
both:
♪ She can bust out your light
1007
00:43:27,674 --> 00:43:29,814
♪ She is the jerk,
the jerk of all trades ♪
1008
00:43:29,917 --> 00:43:31,022
♪ Never, ever
1009
00:43:31,125 --> 00:43:32,437
There are songs
on "Jerk Of All Trades"
1010
00:43:32,540 --> 00:43:35,578
that so summed up that time
and feeling and power.
1011
00:43:35,682 --> 00:43:37,684
And we were like
a gang or an army,
1012
00:43:37,787 --> 00:43:39,996
or we were on this mission.
1013
00:43:40,100 --> 00:43:42,447
No one ever fucked with us.
1014
00:43:42,550 --> 00:43:46,382
And if they did, we always won.
1015
00:43:46,485 --> 00:43:47,763
That's it! I got a gun.
1016
00:43:47,866 --> 00:43:50,006
Everybody hit the deck,
or the nun gets it!
1017
00:43:50,110 --> 00:43:52,422
None of them took any shit
from anybody in the audience,
1018
00:43:52,526 --> 00:43:53,561
which I loved.
1019
00:43:53,665 --> 00:43:54,632
I mean, Theo used to, like,
1020
00:43:54,735 --> 00:43:56,150
just tell people to fuck off.
1021
00:43:56,254 --> 00:43:58,808
And she threw her tampon
at somebody once
1022
00:43:58,912 --> 00:44:01,328
in the audience that was
giving her a hard time.
1023
00:44:01,431 --> 00:44:03,571
Like, you know, I just thought,
1024
00:44:03,675 --> 00:44:05,470
oh, my God, that's so amazing.
1025
00:44:05,573 --> 00:44:06,954
It's so John Waters.
1026
00:44:08,162 --> 00:44:10,509
That was such
an exciting year.
1027
00:44:10,613 --> 00:44:12,304
Things were really happening.
1028
00:44:15,066 --> 00:44:17,655
Theo was doing
a lot of modeling.
1029
00:44:17,758 --> 00:44:19,518
Designers started
coming to her, like,
1030
00:44:19,622 --> 00:44:21,141
"You're tattooed
and you're gorgeous,
1031
00:44:21,244 --> 00:44:23,143
and, you know, we want you
to represent us."
1032
00:44:23,246 --> 00:44:26,698
She had done
the Calvin Klein campaign...
1033
00:44:26,802 --> 00:44:27,768
Just be.
1034
00:44:27,872 --> 00:44:29,528
That got blasted 'cause
1035
00:44:29,632 --> 00:44:30,944
they said everybody
looked like junkies.
1036
00:44:31,047 --> 00:44:33,222
"Be what?" some critics ask.
1037
00:44:33,325 --> 00:44:35,327
Be dirty? Ragged?
1038
00:44:35,431 --> 00:44:38,676
Made to look like they're
strung out, wasted on drugs?
1039
00:44:38,779 --> 00:44:40,229
She was on
"The Jon Stewart Show."
1040
00:44:40,332 --> 00:44:41,644
The lead singer
for the Lunachicks.
1041
00:44:41,748 --> 00:44:43,335
Everybody welcome Theo.
1042
00:44:44,820 --> 00:44:46,269
When I was--
oy, when I was in school--
1043
00:44:46,373 --> 00:44:47,201
I'm sorry, "oy"?
1044
00:44:47,305 --> 00:44:48,340
Oy vey!
1045
00:44:48,444 --> 00:44:49,721
The last thing
I expected to hear from you
1046
00:44:49,825 --> 00:44:52,310
was, in fact, "oy,"
I have to say.
1047
00:44:52,413 --> 00:44:56,555
I found this gal, the cover
of the "Pretty Ugly" album,
1048
00:44:56,659 --> 00:44:59,110
Barbie head, that we did burn.
1049
00:44:59,213 --> 00:45:01,733
♪ Why must I stand on my toes
1050
00:45:01,837 --> 00:45:04,011
♪ Perfect smile
and skintight clothes ♪
1051
00:45:04,115 --> 00:45:06,393
♪ Cinched waist,
no cunt to piss with ♪
1052
00:45:06,496 --> 00:45:08,636
♪ A stamp on my ass
1053
00:45:08,740 --> 00:45:10,397
I was six or seven.
1054
00:45:10,500 --> 00:45:11,743
I got this giant Barbie.
1055
00:45:11,847 --> 00:45:13,503
It was super tall.
1056
00:45:13,607 --> 00:45:14,677
It was a drag queen.
1057
00:45:14,781 --> 00:45:16,127
At that moment, it clicked,
1058
00:45:16,230 --> 00:45:17,438
and I was like,
I want to be that.
1059
00:45:17,542 --> 00:45:18,716
I want to be a giant woman.
1060
00:45:18,819 --> 00:45:20,165
And that's what happened.
1061
00:45:20,269 --> 00:45:23,375
I was trained by Miss Guy
and all these drag queens,
1062
00:45:23,479 --> 00:45:26,654
learning how to make myself
into that.
1063
00:45:28,139 --> 00:45:32,902
♪ Bitterness Barbie,
boobs are sagging ♪
1064
00:45:33,006 --> 00:45:35,284
I really enjoy being
in front of the camera.
1065
00:45:35,387 --> 00:45:36,768
I enjoy dressing up.
1066
00:45:36,872 --> 00:45:38,459
I enjoyed getting
my makeup and hair done.
1067
00:45:38,563 --> 00:45:40,738
I don't think
the band really liked it.
1068
00:45:40,841 --> 00:45:43,568
What they have to do is
get me to the airport
1069
00:45:43,671 --> 00:45:44,983
from--you know, to New York.
1070
00:45:45,087 --> 00:45:46,882
There was some tension.
I felt it.
1071
00:45:46,985 --> 00:45:48,331
And then back for the gig.
1072
00:45:48,435 --> 00:45:49,781
- Guaranteed, right?
- They're gonna--
1073
00:45:49,885 --> 00:45:51,507
We want a written contract
that says that
1074
00:45:51,610 --> 00:45:53,164
you'll be back
in time for the gig
1075
00:45:53,267 --> 00:45:54,959
or we want a thousand dollars
for each of us.
1076
00:45:55,062 --> 00:45:55,994
- Totally.
- Yeah.
1077
00:45:56,098 --> 00:45:57,306
If, like, for some reason,
1078
00:45:57,409 --> 00:45:59,757
you're plane is delayed
and you miss the gig,
1079
00:45:59,860 --> 00:46:00,758
we can't, like,
afford to not...
1080
00:46:00,861 --> 00:46:02,035
- Oh, no.
- Just make sure you--
1081
00:46:02,138 --> 00:46:03,105
The only thing
I would miss is soundcheck.
1082
00:46:03,208 --> 00:46:04,796
And then I'd get to the show.
1083
00:46:04,900 --> 00:46:06,039
Um, well, that's
all your problem.
1084
00:46:06,142 --> 00:46:08,696
OK, we'll take
a smaller fee for that.
1085
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:12,217
I felt like they didn't want
anyone to look too pretty.
1086
00:46:12,321 --> 00:46:14,668
And it's like, why can't we
be good-looking too?
1087
00:46:14,772 --> 00:46:16,014
You know, we're funny,
and we're gross,
1088
00:46:16,118 --> 00:46:18,741
but it's okay
to--to show all sides.
1089
00:46:18,845 --> 00:46:20,018
To me.
1090
00:46:21,468 --> 00:46:24,782
Because on the other side
of me was this person
1091
00:46:24,885 --> 00:46:26,887
when I got on stage
that was like,
1092
00:46:26,991 --> 00:46:29,234
"Fuck you.
Nobody can fuck with me.
1093
00:46:29,338 --> 00:46:31,271
And if anyone does,
I will kill you."
1094
00:46:39,451 --> 00:46:41,868
The Lunachicks had
a lot of gay fans--
1095
00:46:41,971 --> 00:46:43,973
gay boys, gay girls,
and everything in between.
1096
00:46:44,077 --> 00:46:46,355
Boys dressed up,
girls dressed up,
1097
00:46:46,458 --> 00:46:48,288
butch girls, femme boys.
1098
00:46:48,391 --> 00:46:52,430
It was a super fun mix of
people at a Lunachicks show.
1099
00:46:54,190 --> 00:46:55,398
By the time
of "Jerk of All Trades,"
1100
00:46:55,502 --> 00:46:57,262
they were packing out
every club they played.
1101
00:46:57,366 --> 00:46:59,540
Plus, then they would
also be opening
1102
00:46:59,644 --> 00:47:02,198
for bigger artists and playing
amphitheaters and arenas.
1103
00:47:08,860 --> 00:47:12,450
Are you ready to rock, Tokyo?
1104
00:47:12,553 --> 00:47:16,109
The album "Jerk of All
Trades" was doing really well,
1105
00:47:16,212 --> 00:47:18,490
and we were going on
bigger tours by then.
1106
00:47:18,594 --> 00:47:20,734
♪ Light as a feather,
stiff as a board ♪
1107
00:47:20,838 --> 00:47:22,805
♪ Stiff as a week in May
1108
00:47:22,909 --> 00:47:24,842
♪ I dare you, I dare you
1109
00:47:24,945 --> 00:47:27,016
♪ Do it now or you can't play
1110
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:28,846
♪ Jump the bridge,
just for kicks ♪
1111
00:47:28,949 --> 00:47:31,158
♪ Jump the bridge and pray
1112
00:47:31,262 --> 00:47:36,957
♪ I dare you, I dare you,
do it and die today ♪
1113
00:47:37,061 --> 00:47:41,306
♪ Light as a feather
1114
00:47:41,410 --> 00:47:43,515
♪ Stiff as a board,
stiff as a board ♪
1115
00:47:46,553 --> 00:47:47,623
You know, there's people
1116
00:47:47,726 --> 00:47:49,245
that just can't
take it on tour.
1117
00:47:49,349 --> 00:47:53,594
And the fact that the five
of us, like, survived so well,
1118
00:47:53,698 --> 00:47:55,113
at least I thought we did.
1119
00:47:55,217 --> 00:47:59,152
I thought we, like--
we really thrived together.
1120
00:47:59,255 --> 00:48:04,191
Five people and a tour manager
and a merch girl.
1121
00:48:04,295 --> 00:48:09,058
I saw it all as going
very, very, very well.
1122
00:48:09,162 --> 00:48:11,198
There was a lot of laughs.
1123
00:48:11,302 --> 00:48:13,580
There was a lot
of laughing going on.
1124
00:48:13,683 --> 00:48:15,202
Welcome to the annual
1125
00:48:15,306 --> 00:48:18,447
Plumber Butt
Race Up the Hill contest,
1126
00:48:18,550 --> 00:48:19,724
and wait, hold on.
1127
00:48:19,827 --> 00:48:21,139
Let me get a close-up on those.
1128
00:48:21,243 --> 00:48:23,210
Oh, yes,
it's contestant number one
1129
00:48:23,314 --> 00:48:24,384
right there on the right.
1130
00:48:24,487 --> 00:48:25,626
That's Chip.
1131
00:48:25,730 --> 00:48:28,215
Contestant number two, Theo,
1132
00:48:28,319 --> 00:48:30,252
and contestant number three,
Squid.
1133
00:48:30,355 --> 00:48:32,737
Well, they all look
pretty good, I must say.
1134
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:34,773
This is going to be
a tough decision.
1135
00:48:34,877 --> 00:48:38,570
Plumbers, set your mark. Go!
1136
00:48:40,918 --> 00:48:42,195
Oh, my gosh.
1137
00:48:43,782 --> 00:48:45,819
Oh, that was
a close race, folks,
1138
00:48:45,923 --> 00:48:47,579
a real close race.
1139
00:48:47,683 --> 00:48:48,787
I don't know.
1140
00:48:48,891 --> 00:48:50,513
I think we might have to
have a rematch.
1141
00:48:52,653 --> 00:48:57,106
♪ You're a mental case
1142
00:48:57,210 --> 00:48:59,212
♪ 'Bout time
I smash your face ♪
1143
00:48:59,315 --> 00:49:01,248
♪ Got a habit of steppin'
out of line ♪
1144
00:49:01,352 --> 00:49:03,354
♪ Oh, yeah, well,
here comes your time ♪
1145
00:49:03,457 --> 00:49:06,012
We would get
a lot of young girls
1146
00:49:06,115 --> 00:49:07,565
coming up to us and saying,
1147
00:49:07,668 --> 00:49:11,810
"Oh, my God, you have really
changed my way of thinking,
1148
00:49:11,914 --> 00:49:13,605
"of seeing myself in the world
1149
00:49:13,709 --> 00:49:17,747
or helping me understand
it's okay to be who I am."
1150
00:49:20,129 --> 00:49:22,269
When I hear things
like that from fans,
1151
00:49:22,373 --> 00:49:24,996
it's like, that makes
all that suffering
1152
00:49:25,100 --> 00:49:27,274
that we did on the side
of the road
1153
00:49:27,378 --> 00:49:30,415
and sleeping on floors
and, you know,
1154
00:49:30,519 --> 00:49:33,280
running out of gas,
like, worth everything.
1155
00:49:33,384 --> 00:49:35,006
♪ Great green globs of greasy,
grimy gopher guts ♪
1156
00:49:35,110 --> 00:49:36,111
♪ Mutilated monkey meat
1157
00:49:36,214 --> 00:49:37,629
♪ Chopped up little
birdies' feet ♪
1158
00:49:37,733 --> 00:49:39,321
♪ French fried eyeballs
rolling down the dirty street ♪
1159
00:49:39,424 --> 00:49:41,323
♪ And I forgot my spoon
1160
00:49:42,910 --> 00:49:44,326
In the beginning, it was like,
1161
00:49:44,429 --> 00:49:46,500
"Oh, my God, we're in a band.
This is so fun."
1162
00:49:46,604 --> 00:49:48,295
Is this not made for me?
1163
00:49:48,399 --> 00:49:50,228
But we're also feminists,
1164
00:49:50,332 --> 00:49:51,574
and we're pro-choice,
1165
00:49:51,678 --> 00:49:53,714
and these things are
being threatened still.
1166
00:49:53,818 --> 00:49:56,441
My mother also
has been fighting
1167
00:49:56,545 --> 00:49:59,582
for her right to choice
since the '60s,
1168
00:49:59,686 --> 00:50:01,205
and she continues to fight,
1169
00:50:01,308 --> 00:50:06,348
and I will continue to fight
as long as is necessary.
1170
00:50:06,451 --> 00:50:10,559
I found all these shirts,
and there's this guy.
1171
00:50:10,662 --> 00:50:12,319
Us and Fugazi, Pearl Jam,
1172
00:50:12,423 --> 00:50:14,908
and L7, who put the whole
thing together.
1173
00:50:15,012 --> 00:50:17,462
1992.
1174
00:50:17,566 --> 00:50:20,327
And we're still fighting
for our choice today.
1175
00:50:25,850 --> 00:50:27,162
♪ I can't go on like this
1176
00:50:27,265 --> 00:50:29,440
♪ I didn't understand
a word you said ♪
1177
00:50:29,543 --> 00:50:31,787
We did do a reunion
once before.
1178
00:50:31,890 --> 00:50:33,478
♪ You didn't mean
to not to ♪
1179
00:50:33,582 --> 00:50:35,066
♪ But you didn't
'cause you couldn't ♪
1180
00:50:35,170 --> 00:50:37,034
♪ But would have
if you could have ♪
1181
00:50:37,137 --> 00:50:38,587
♪ And you might,
but you wouldn't ♪
1182
00:50:38,690 --> 00:50:40,106
♪ Say what you mean
1183
00:50:40,209 --> 00:50:43,868
In 2004, we played
a big pro-choice show
1184
00:50:43,971 --> 00:50:46,629
in D.C. with Joan Jett.
1185
00:50:46,733 --> 00:50:50,323
♪ Well, today will
soon be yesterday ♪
1186
00:50:50,426 --> 00:50:54,016
♪ Tomorrow will be today
1187
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:57,675
♪ And I'm waiting every day
1188
00:50:57,778 --> 00:50:59,056
Ah!
1189
00:50:59,159 --> 00:51:00,057
♪ For you to say what
you mean ♪
1190
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:01,368
♪ Mean what you say
1191
00:51:01,472 --> 00:51:03,060
♪ Say what you mean,
don't say it mean ♪
1192
00:51:03,163 --> 00:51:04,440
♪ Say what you, say what you
1193
00:51:04,544 --> 00:51:07,616
♪ Say what you,
say what you mean ♪
1194
00:51:09,238 --> 00:51:10,722
all: Lunachicks!
1195
00:51:10,826 --> 00:51:12,759
Lunachicks!
1196
00:51:12,862 --> 00:51:15,106
Lunachicks! Lunachicks!
1197
00:51:15,210 --> 00:51:17,695
Lunachicks!
1198
00:51:17,798 --> 00:51:21,319
Oh, my God.
1199
00:51:21,423 --> 00:51:24,667
Holy--Stormy, you are
so adorable.
1200
00:51:24,771 --> 00:51:26,324
Holy shit.
1201
00:51:26,428 --> 00:51:28,223
I have missed you guys
so much.
1202
00:51:28,326 --> 00:51:31,674
I was so excited
when Theo called me.
1203
00:51:31,778 --> 00:51:34,539
So tell me how this
whole thing came about.
1204
00:51:34,643 --> 00:51:37,094
Is there a book
that's coming out?
1205
00:51:37,197 --> 00:51:39,061
Yeah, we're working
on a book.
1206
00:51:39,165 --> 00:51:40,821
- Yeah.
- Are you guys wanting
1207
00:51:40,925 --> 00:51:42,823
to go out and do
an actual tour?
1208
00:51:42,927 --> 00:51:44,929
Or are you just wanting
to kind of do more,
1209
00:51:45,032 --> 00:51:47,380
like, fly in, fly out--
1210
00:51:47,483 --> 00:51:49,347
Can we do, like,
some anonymous show
1211
00:51:49,451 --> 00:51:51,349
just very far away,
so if we suck,
1212
00:51:51,453 --> 00:51:53,282
that nobody really knows?
1213
00:51:53,386 --> 00:51:54,663
Um, you know,
you can't stop people
1214
00:51:54,766 --> 00:51:56,389
from taking cell phones
into shows,
1215
00:51:56,492 --> 00:51:59,012
so everything gets
recorded now.
1216
00:51:59,116 --> 00:52:01,014
Good thing
you look so good, Kogan.
1217
00:52:02,326 --> 00:52:03,396
Ditto, Silver.
1218
00:52:03,499 --> 00:52:05,777
You got nothing
to hide, girl.
1219
00:52:05,881 --> 00:52:07,745
Don't be shy.
1220
00:52:12,163 --> 00:52:13,785
When we first started,
we were literally
1221
00:52:13,889 --> 00:52:17,237
banging on pots and pans in my
bedroom of my parents' house,
1222
00:52:17,341 --> 00:52:19,550
and it became more serious.
1223
00:52:19,653 --> 00:52:21,310
♪ When I look
into your big brown eyes ♪
1224
00:52:21,414 --> 00:52:23,140
We knew that,
because we were women,
1225
00:52:23,243 --> 00:52:26,591
people were looking at us
to fail.
1226
00:52:26,695 --> 00:52:29,318
And although we never
took our image seriously,
1227
00:52:29,422 --> 00:52:33,978
we took very seriously
being taken seriously.
1228
00:52:34,081 --> 00:52:35,669
You know, it's like, fuck you.
1229
00:52:35,773 --> 00:52:37,084
We can play.
1230
00:52:37,188 --> 00:52:39,397
Fuck you.
We can play better than you.
1231
00:52:39,501 --> 00:52:40,398
We wanted to be kids.
1232
00:52:40,502 --> 00:52:42,262
We still wanted to be kids.
1233
00:52:42,366 --> 00:52:45,438
We wanted to play
better than all the guys
1234
00:52:45,541 --> 00:52:48,648
because people really
would say,
1235
00:52:48,751 --> 00:52:50,546
"Oh, you guys are pretty good
for girls."
1236
00:52:52,376 --> 00:52:54,516
No, we can't book
another female band
1237
00:52:54,619 --> 00:52:57,415
this month because we had
one playing last month.
1238
00:52:57,519 --> 00:53:00,763
No, we can't feature another
female band in our magazine
1239
00:53:00,867 --> 00:53:03,421
because we did one
two weeks ago.
1240
00:53:03,525 --> 00:53:05,216
They had filled their quota.
1241
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:09,669
That was given as a reason by
these people and with no shame.
1242
00:53:11,222 --> 00:53:13,707
There was a rock station
in New York.
1243
00:53:13,811 --> 00:53:16,883
They flat-out said,
"It's too many female bands
1244
00:53:16,986 --> 00:53:19,368
for one playlist."
1245
00:53:19,472 --> 00:53:21,094
We happened to be playing
a show that was
1246
00:53:21,198 --> 00:53:22,820
sponsored by
that radio station,
1247
00:53:22,923 --> 00:53:24,891
and they had a banner
in front of the stage,
1248
00:53:24,994 --> 00:53:29,206
and Theo was like,
"Q104, pure cock rock!"
1249
00:53:29,309 --> 00:53:31,138
And she ripped the banner.
1250
00:53:31,242 --> 00:53:33,210
And they were like, "We're
never gonna play you ever now."
1251
00:53:35,522 --> 00:53:37,490
We had the same
booking agent, Stormy.
1252
00:53:37,593 --> 00:53:39,906
And the Lunachicks
were kind of more of
1253
00:53:40,009 --> 00:53:41,425
an established band, right?
1254
00:53:41,528 --> 00:53:44,531
So Stormy suggested
that we could open up for 'em
1255
00:53:44,635 --> 00:53:47,120
on their tour,
and we were thrilled.
1256
00:53:47,224 --> 00:53:48,397
We're watching 'em play,
going,
1257
00:53:48,501 --> 00:53:51,469
Jesus, these guys are like--
they're a big band.
1258
00:53:51,573 --> 00:53:52,884
We got our work
cut out for us,
1259
00:53:52,988 --> 00:53:54,161
trying to keep up with them.
1260
00:53:56,129 --> 00:53:57,475
And then "Smash" came out.
1261
00:53:57,579 --> 00:53:59,719
♪ La, la, la, la, la
1262
00:53:59,822 --> 00:54:02,169
And now we needed someone
to open up for us.
1263
00:54:06,484 --> 00:54:09,522
The Offspring had
opened for us.
1264
00:54:09,625 --> 00:54:12,387
Then, boom,
they're millionaires,
1265
00:54:12,490 --> 00:54:15,424
and we're opening
for them at arenas.
1266
00:54:15,528 --> 00:54:17,012
The whole music
industry changed,
1267
00:54:17,115 --> 00:54:19,428
and all of a sudden,
punk rock became mainstream.
1268
00:54:19,532 --> 00:54:22,707
And people were making money--
and, like, a lot of money.
1269
00:54:22,811 --> 00:54:25,848
And you would hear about
some person that got signed,
1270
00:54:25,952 --> 00:54:27,885
and then they were
in a bus the next day.
1271
00:54:27,988 --> 00:54:31,682
And we were like, we've been
sitting in a van for 12 years.
1272
00:54:31,785 --> 00:54:32,752
Isn't it lovely?
1273
00:54:32,855 --> 00:54:33,925
Lovely mobile home
to call our own.
1274
00:54:34,029 --> 00:54:35,513
We finally got an RV.
1275
00:54:35,617 --> 00:54:37,481
And then, like, when we get
these little breaks...
1276
00:54:37,584 --> 00:54:39,966
After, what is it--
nine, ten years of touring?
1277
00:54:40,069 --> 00:54:41,692
Like an RV for the first time,
1278
00:54:41,795 --> 00:54:44,384
and then someone would be like,
"Yeah, you fucking sell-out!"
1279
00:54:44,488 --> 00:54:46,352
Like, are you kidding me?
1280
00:54:46,455 --> 00:54:47,560
- What's going on?
- We're going to the home
1281
00:54:47,663 --> 00:54:49,838
of the Lunachicks on tour.
1282
00:54:49,941 --> 00:54:51,357
Hello, Lunachicks.
1283
00:54:51,460 --> 00:54:53,566
We're here from "Lifestyles
of the Poor and--"
1284
00:54:53,669 --> 00:54:54,808
No!
1285
00:54:54,912 --> 00:54:56,707
The roots of what you want
are always
1286
00:54:56,810 --> 00:54:59,296
punk rock
and start from nothing.
1287
00:54:59,399 --> 00:55:01,608
I mean, that's all really fun.
1288
00:55:01,712 --> 00:55:04,784
But as you become older,
and you see other people
1289
00:55:04,887 --> 00:55:08,270
with a whole team
of management and publicity
1290
00:55:08,374 --> 00:55:11,618
and money being put
into your art
1291
00:55:11,722 --> 00:55:13,827
that makes it more
accessible for people,
1292
00:55:13,931 --> 00:55:15,173
there was always
that feeling like,
1293
00:55:15,277 --> 00:55:16,934
if we could get
that little break,
1294
00:55:17,037 --> 00:55:20,696
that we could reach more
people and sell more records.
1295
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:22,767
You know, they were
all phenomenal musicians.
1296
00:55:22,871 --> 00:55:24,735
I remember Gina teaching me
how to play guitar
1297
00:55:24,838 --> 00:55:26,599
in the back of the bus
one time.
1298
00:55:26,702 --> 00:55:28,739
Seriously, like teaching me
guitar riffs that,
1299
00:55:28,842 --> 00:55:30,499
you know, I didn't know
how to play.
1300
00:55:30,603 --> 00:55:32,432
It was a very
male-dominated world.
1301
00:55:32,536 --> 00:55:33,640
And that's part of why
1302
00:55:33,744 --> 00:55:34,848
I really enjoyed
bringing them on tour,
1303
00:55:34,952 --> 00:55:37,299
'cause, like, you don't
see this every day.
1304
00:55:37,403 --> 00:55:39,543
This is really cool
and different and unique.
1305
00:55:39,646 --> 00:55:42,442
You know, they didn't get
their due, for sure.
1306
00:55:42,546 --> 00:55:45,031
The other bands,
they all shared with us,
1307
00:55:45,134 --> 00:55:47,102
and they treated us well,
1308
00:55:47,205 --> 00:55:50,450
so I didn't begrudge
any of them their success.
1309
00:55:50,554 --> 00:55:53,315
But there was no
fathomable reason
1310
00:55:53,419 --> 00:55:57,146
why we weren't also
participating in that.
1311
00:55:57,250 --> 00:55:59,528
We had paid all the dues.
1312
00:55:59,632 --> 00:56:02,289
All the dues had been paid
with interest.
1313
00:56:02,393 --> 00:56:04,913
And it just didn't
make any sense.
1314
00:56:05,016 --> 00:56:07,985
♪ You'll never be
good enough ♪
1315
00:56:08,088 --> 00:56:10,505
♪ Whoa, whoa
1316
00:56:10,608 --> 00:56:13,128
♪ You got less teeth
and more tits ♪
1317
00:56:13,231 --> 00:56:15,751
We were living the life
of being in a band,
1318
00:56:15,855 --> 00:56:17,512
and, I mean,
that was everybody's focus.
1319
00:56:17,615 --> 00:56:20,480
There was no, like,
going back to law school
1320
00:56:20,584 --> 00:56:21,516
when this is done.
1321
00:56:21,619 --> 00:56:23,207
Like, this is all
we were doing.
1322
00:56:23,310 --> 00:56:24,898
I never went to college.
1323
00:56:25,002 --> 00:56:27,660
I mean, it's not like
we had eggs in other baskets.
1324
00:56:27,763 --> 00:56:29,386
That was gonna be our lives.
1325
00:56:29,489 --> 00:56:31,974
Never get poop
on your creepers.
1326
00:56:32,078 --> 00:56:34,321
We were always
scrambling for money.
1327
00:56:34,425 --> 00:56:36,082
I bartended.
1328
00:56:36,185 --> 00:56:37,842
I bussed tables.
1329
00:56:37,946 --> 00:56:41,467
I started go-go dancing
in gay and mixed clubs
1330
00:56:41,570 --> 00:56:43,089
and babysitting too.
1331
00:56:43,192 --> 00:56:44,918
I started tattooing.
1332
00:56:45,022 --> 00:56:46,472
I tattooed for 14 years.
1333
00:56:48,094 --> 00:56:49,785
I tell you, man,
those Lunachicks,
1334
00:56:49,889 --> 00:56:51,684
those are just, like,
the most beautiful creatures
1335
00:56:51,787 --> 00:56:53,789
God has ever graced
this planet with, man,
1336
00:56:53,893 --> 00:56:56,136
especially Squid,
the bass player.
1337
00:56:56,240 --> 00:56:57,862
If I had to fall
in love again,
1338
00:56:57,966 --> 00:57:01,452
that's who I would be in love
with, I'll tell you what, man.
1339
00:57:01,556 --> 00:57:04,317
Back then, the legends
in your life are
1340
00:57:04,421 --> 00:57:06,837
your New York characters
from the '70s.
1341
00:57:06,940 --> 00:57:10,288
And they had, all of them,
become heroin addicts.
1342
00:57:10,392 --> 00:57:13,568
So by the time
we're teenagers,
1343
00:57:13,671 --> 00:57:17,641
it was like,
anything but heroin.
1344
00:57:17,744 --> 00:57:20,126
♪ I'm falling
1345
00:57:20,229 --> 00:57:23,094
Except for those of us
who just couldn't resist.
1346
00:57:23,198 --> 00:57:25,890
♪ I'm falling and there's
no one to catch me ♪
1347
00:57:25,994 --> 00:57:29,894
I was using,
more and more, in secret.
1348
00:57:29,998 --> 00:57:31,689
It was a secret
until I couldn't keep it
1349
00:57:31,793 --> 00:57:34,623
a secret anymore.
1350
00:57:34,727 --> 00:57:37,902
I remember busting Syd
being high at rehearsals
1351
00:57:38,006 --> 00:57:39,386
and being like, you know,
"I know you're high.
1352
00:57:39,490 --> 00:57:40,767
You better not do it again."
1353
00:57:40,871 --> 00:57:41,975
She'd be like,
"No, no, I won't do it again.
1354
00:57:42,079 --> 00:57:43,080
I promise."
1355
00:57:43,183 --> 00:57:45,496
I had no idea what that was--
what it was about
1356
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:46,911
and how deep it was
1357
00:57:47,015 --> 00:57:48,844
and how much
of a monster it is,
1358
00:57:48,948 --> 00:57:50,639
that addiction and that drug.
1359
00:57:50,743 --> 00:57:55,161
♪ All you got,
you're throwing it away ♪
1360
00:57:55,264 --> 00:58:01,512
It was so painful,
being so helpless--
1361
00:58:01,616 --> 00:58:05,585
wanting to make her stop,
not being able to,
1362
00:58:05,689 --> 00:58:07,760
being afraid she's gonna die.
1363
00:58:07,863 --> 00:58:11,073
♪ Even if I loved you more,
turn it into disdain ♪
1364
00:58:11,177 --> 00:58:15,526
♪ Even if the sun is shining,
it's pouring acid rain ♪
1365
00:58:15,630 --> 00:58:19,703
♪ Can't hold on
for one more day ♪
1366
00:58:19,806 --> 00:58:23,361
Me and Sindi had
a hard falling out.
1367
00:58:23,465 --> 00:58:27,124
We stopped being friends
for a long time.
1368
00:58:27,227 --> 00:58:30,886
It was hard, 'cause, like,
Sindi was my sister.
1369
00:58:30,990 --> 00:58:34,718
I had personal experience
that nobody else had
1370
00:58:34,821 --> 00:58:38,135
of losing people close to me
to drugs.
1371
00:58:38,238 --> 00:58:40,793
And, you know, I adored her.
1372
00:58:40,896 --> 00:58:44,313
And I saw that
I was losing her,
1373
00:58:44,417 --> 00:58:46,764
that we were losing her.
1374
00:58:46,868 --> 00:58:51,044
So most of my anger
came from sadness.
1375
00:58:55,152 --> 00:58:57,568
When we recorded
"Pretty Ugly,"
1376
00:58:57,672 --> 00:59:01,089
Sindi recorded her parts
and then split.
1377
00:59:01,192 --> 00:59:02,987
She wasn't there much.
1378
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:07,716
I was very close to Sindi,
1379
00:59:07,820 --> 00:59:09,546
but I think she had
a different agenda.
1380
00:59:12,238 --> 00:59:15,241
Being on tour was very
different in the early days
1381
00:59:15,344 --> 00:59:16,449
than in the later days.
1382
00:59:16,553 --> 00:59:17,692
Bad mood.
1383
00:59:17,795 --> 00:59:18,796
People started to get
a little bit more
1384
00:59:18,900 --> 00:59:20,591
snippy with each other.
1385
00:59:20,695 --> 00:59:23,698
I found that I was
distancing myself
1386
00:59:23,801 --> 00:59:25,941
from the rest
of the band more.
1387
00:59:26,045 --> 00:59:28,806
And there was this divide of
1388
00:59:28,910 --> 00:59:30,601
what they thought
was important
1389
00:59:30,705 --> 00:59:32,396
and what I thought
was important.
1390
00:59:33,984 --> 00:59:36,296
I didn't care as much
about succeeding,
1391
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:37,677
about making it.
1392
00:59:37,781 --> 00:59:40,128
I was still in it to have fun.
1393
00:59:41,612 --> 00:59:45,098
We wanted to be better
than we were the year before.
1394
00:59:45,202 --> 00:59:49,240
That was really important
to all of us--most of us.
1395
00:59:49,344 --> 00:59:52,485
But I don't think it was
as important to Sindi.
1396
00:59:52,589 --> 00:59:54,763
We started writing
more complex riffs
1397
00:59:54,867 --> 00:59:57,835
and faster rhythms,
and she couldn't keep up.
1398
00:59:57,939 --> 00:59:59,630
And it was a problem.
1399
00:59:59,734 --> 01:00:03,392
♪ Yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah ♪
1400
01:00:03,496 --> 01:00:04,911
♪ Oh, yeah
1401
01:00:05,015 --> 01:00:09,122
They wanted me
to tighten up my musical act,
1402
01:00:09,226 --> 01:00:13,748
and I didn't want to.
1403
01:00:13,851 --> 01:00:18,753
To me, it felt like
they were looking for a reason
1404
01:00:18,856 --> 01:00:20,996
that the success
wasn't coming.
1405
01:00:21,100 --> 01:00:25,829
And at some point,
the finger was pointed at me.
1406
01:00:25,932 --> 01:00:29,280
I, fair enough,
could be sloppy on stage.
1407
01:00:29,384 --> 01:00:34,665
I did not spend my free time
noodling on the guitar,
1408
01:00:34,769 --> 01:00:38,945
because I thought
I was in a punk rock band.
1409
01:00:39,049 --> 01:00:41,223
So we said,
either you put the effort in,
1410
01:00:41,327 --> 01:00:45,158
or you leave the band,
and it's your choice.
1411
01:00:45,262 --> 01:00:49,646
I think she felt betrayed that
we would give her an ultimatum,
1412
01:00:49,749 --> 01:00:52,476
because it was her band too.
1413
01:00:52,579 --> 01:00:55,168
It was heartbreaking.
1414
01:00:55,272 --> 01:00:57,964
I cared about them all
so much.
1415
01:00:58,068 --> 01:01:00,829
If I had believed
I was holding us back,
1416
01:01:00,933 --> 01:01:03,418
I would have done
whatever it took.
1417
01:01:03,521 --> 01:01:06,939
I just didn't believe
there was a need for it.
1418
01:01:07,042 --> 01:01:08,837
Sindi from the Lunachicks.
1419
01:01:08,941 --> 01:01:11,737
I knew I was
a great stage presence.
1420
01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:14,843
I knew it wasn't me.
1421
01:01:14,947 --> 01:01:19,020
But if they were gonna
insinuate that it was me,
1422
01:01:19,123 --> 01:01:24,439
any joy that was left then
was stabbed in the heart.
1423
01:01:25,751 --> 01:01:29,444
So we all agreed to part ways.
1424
01:01:30,963 --> 01:01:34,967
It wasn't super amicable,
1425
01:01:35,070 --> 01:01:37,417
but they are
really important to me.
1426
01:01:37,521 --> 01:01:39,937
They always were
important to me.
1427
01:01:41,180 --> 01:01:44,217
Those girls are
my lifelong sisters.
1428
01:01:47,531 --> 01:01:50,396
So you guys are on
the Iggy Pop tribute album.
1429
01:01:50,499 --> 01:01:52,018
all: Yes.
1430
01:01:52,122 --> 01:01:53,848
There was a recording
that we did
1431
01:01:53,951 --> 01:01:57,161
of "The Passenger,"
the Iggy Pop song.
1432
01:01:58,611 --> 01:01:59,888
I just couldn't get there.
1433
01:01:59,992 --> 01:02:01,303
Like, I just--I was, like,
1434
01:02:01,407 --> 01:02:04,030
shooting coke
or something crazy.
1435
01:02:04,134 --> 01:02:08,379
Every 15 minutes,
I had to, like, fix.
1436
01:02:08,483 --> 01:02:11,106
I kept getting dressed
and trying to leave the house.
1437
01:02:11,210 --> 01:02:12,832
And then I'd just be
back on the couch
1438
01:02:12,936 --> 01:02:14,040
with a needle in my arm.
1439
01:02:14,144 --> 01:02:15,248
I never got to the studio.
1440
01:02:15,352 --> 01:02:16,318
I couldn't do it.
1441
01:02:17,872 --> 01:02:20,840
I think, in her mind,
going on tour,
1442
01:02:20,944 --> 01:02:23,015
"I'm gonna kick it.
1443
01:02:23,118 --> 01:02:25,672
I'm gonna leave New York
and stop."
1444
01:02:25,776 --> 01:02:26,984
She was drug sick
1445
01:02:27,088 --> 01:02:29,090
for the whole time
we were in Japan.
1446
01:02:29,193 --> 01:02:33,784
And it's like, Squid--
like, we were in Japan.
1447
01:02:33,888 --> 01:02:37,339
We were in Japan,
and you didn't even know it.
1448
01:02:38,893 --> 01:02:40,964
She had her awesome
vintage car,
1449
01:02:41,067 --> 01:02:44,243
her '64 Chevy Nova.
1450
01:02:45,451 --> 01:02:48,247
This one night,
she was in a bad way,
1451
01:02:48,350 --> 01:02:51,008
and she's doing some kind
of heroin-speed combo or--
1452
01:02:51,112 --> 01:02:52,699
I don't know
what she was doing.
1453
01:02:52,803 --> 01:02:55,841
She was picky,
skinny, nervous.
1454
01:02:55,944 --> 01:02:58,326
It was bad.
1455
01:02:58,429 --> 01:03:00,259
I'm sitting
in the front with her,
1456
01:03:00,362 --> 01:03:03,434
and we're going to get
on the Brooklyn Bridge.
1457
01:03:05,264 --> 01:03:09,095
There was, like, one of those
concrete dividers.
1458
01:03:09,199 --> 01:03:12,340
She nodded out,
hit the divider,
1459
01:03:12,443 --> 01:03:16,171
and the whole car bounced
into the lane of--
1460
01:03:16,275 --> 01:03:17,932
would have been
oncoming traffic.
1461
01:03:18,035 --> 01:03:19,623
If there had been traffic,
1462
01:03:19,726 --> 01:03:20,866
if there had been
any other cars,
1463
01:03:20,969 --> 01:03:22,868
we would be probably dead.
1464
01:03:22,971 --> 01:03:24,628
But somehow,
it wasn't our time.
1465
01:03:26,733 --> 01:03:29,288
I called Syd's dad.
1466
01:03:29,391 --> 01:03:30,634
"Things are bad.
1467
01:03:30,737 --> 01:03:33,016
We have to save her."
1468
01:03:33,119 --> 01:03:35,570
We called an intervention.
1469
01:03:35,673 --> 01:03:38,987
It was a small group of us--
the band, Howie,
1470
01:03:39,091 --> 01:03:41,714
her sister,
and her mom and her dad.
1471
01:03:41,818 --> 01:03:43,578
And you have to tell
the person,
1472
01:03:43,681 --> 01:03:46,374
"We're out if you can't
get your shit together."
1473
01:03:47,893 --> 01:03:49,411
I didn't know at that time
1474
01:03:49,515 --> 01:03:51,413
if she was gonna walk
out of the room,
1475
01:03:51,517 --> 01:03:53,346
and I would never
see her again.
1476
01:03:55,038 --> 01:03:56,763
I was so ready to go.
1477
01:03:56,867 --> 01:03:58,489
I was just like,
get me the fuck out of here.
1478
01:03:58,593 --> 01:04:01,630
Like, I can't help myself.
1479
01:04:02,079 --> 01:04:05,358
I didn't want
to lose everything.
1480
01:04:05,462 --> 01:04:07,809
I mean, I never cared
about anything
1481
01:04:07,913 --> 01:04:09,915
as much as I cared
about the band.
1482
01:04:10,018 --> 01:04:12,089
It was everything.
1483
01:04:12,193 --> 01:04:13,642
So they pulled me out.
1484
01:04:13,746 --> 01:04:15,921
They dropped me into rehab.
1485
01:04:16,024 --> 01:04:17,819
And I stayed clean after that,
1486
01:04:17,923 --> 01:04:20,063
and I've been clean ever since.
1487
01:04:23,445 --> 01:04:26,069
Um, ay-yi-yi-yi-yi.
1488
01:04:26,172 --> 01:04:27,967
Oh, this is where--
1489
01:04:28,071 --> 01:04:30,211
something about this one.
1490
01:04:30,314 --> 01:04:32,109
Which one?
1491
01:04:32,213 --> 01:04:33,248
- This one.
- The deli?
1492
01:04:33,352 --> 01:04:34,767
- This one.
- This building?
1493
01:04:34,871 --> 01:04:37,977
Something like methadone
clinic, something not cool?
1494
01:04:38,081 --> 01:04:40,600
Well, that's your department.
1495
01:04:40,704 --> 01:04:41,774
- Something dark.
- Something dark.
1496
01:04:41,878 --> 01:04:42,879
Something dark.
1497
01:04:42,982 --> 01:04:44,846
Something dark and ouchy.
1498
01:04:44,950 --> 01:04:47,228
- Oh, my God!
- Oh, my God!
1499
01:05:03,658 --> 01:05:05,142
Is that for me?
1500
01:05:05,246 --> 01:05:07,455
And it's got sprinkles!
1501
01:05:07,558 --> 01:05:10,803
Oh, my God,
I just want to hug you again.
1502
01:05:10,907 --> 01:05:12,978
I am so hungry.
1503
01:05:13,081 --> 01:05:14,669
Oh, thank God.
1504
01:05:14,772 --> 01:05:17,154
both: Oh!
1505
01:05:17,258 --> 01:05:21,124
Hey!
1506
01:05:21,227 --> 01:05:24,472
There's something in the air
right now, in this place.
1507
01:05:24,575 --> 01:05:25,473
You know what I mean?
1508
01:05:25,576 --> 01:05:28,200
Like, you know,
seeing everybody, and...
1509
01:05:28,303 --> 01:05:31,134
there's been a lot of talk.
1510
01:05:31,237 --> 01:05:33,515
You know, I'm feeling
a real buzz.
1511
01:05:36,242 --> 01:05:37,278
Squid.
1512
01:05:37,381 --> 01:05:40,384
Really loud, like 11, right?
1513
01:05:40,488 --> 01:05:43,284
♪ And if I don't
pick up the phone ♪
1514
01:05:43,387 --> 01:05:44,595
Ha!
1515
01:05:44,699 --> 01:05:46,425
"Luxury Problem,"
I felt like that was
1516
01:05:46,528 --> 01:05:51,637
a really powerful album
as musicians and songwriting.
1517
01:05:51,740 --> 01:05:53,777
We had grown a lot.
1518
01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:55,606
We were finely tuned.
1519
01:05:55,710 --> 01:05:57,539
We played our instruments
a thousand times better
1520
01:05:57,643 --> 01:05:59,990
than we had when we began.
1521
01:06:00,094 --> 01:06:02,544
♪ I can't see
addicts anymore ♪
1522
01:06:02,648 --> 01:06:05,685
That album, "Luxury
Problem," is fantastic.
1523
01:06:05,789 --> 01:06:08,654
I told my band, you know,
we ought to get those guys
1524
01:06:08,757 --> 01:06:10,311
and bring them on tour with us
1525
01:06:10,414 --> 01:06:12,209
so we could spread the joy.
1526
01:06:12,313 --> 01:06:14,625
Spread the filth.
1527
01:06:16,903 --> 01:06:18,284
To go out with two bands
1528
01:06:18,388 --> 01:06:21,287
like the Go-Go's
and the Lunachicks together,
1529
01:06:21,391 --> 01:06:23,427
I mean, that's a marriage
made in heaven.
1530
01:06:23,531 --> 01:06:25,567
We had so much fun
with them on tour.
1531
01:06:25,671 --> 01:06:28,087
It was like just a gang
of girls hanging out,
1532
01:06:28,191 --> 01:06:30,055
getting into trouble.
1533
01:06:30,158 --> 01:06:32,195
We all understood each other.
1534
01:06:32,298 --> 01:06:35,370
We--we got the humor.
1535
01:06:35,474 --> 01:06:37,752
Lunachicks!
1536
01:06:37,855 --> 01:06:40,203
And they really cared
about keeping humor
1537
01:06:40,306 --> 01:06:43,137
in everything that they did.
1538
01:06:43,240 --> 01:06:45,001
But let's face it,
I don't know if America
1539
01:06:45,104 --> 01:06:46,933
was completely ready for them.
1540
01:06:50,351 --> 01:06:52,939
You know, back then, if
you're a girl band going out,
1541
01:06:53,043 --> 01:06:56,564
it was certainly gonna be
a tougher audience.
1542
01:06:56,667 --> 01:06:59,705
At some shows, there were
knuckle-dragging idiots
1543
01:06:59,808 --> 01:07:01,672
chanting, "Show us your tits."
1544
01:07:01,776 --> 01:07:03,467
It's fucked, you know?
1545
01:07:03,571 --> 01:07:06,574
And so we saw 'em
have to deal with that.
1546
01:07:06,677 --> 01:07:08,817
Every show, there's
some dick in the audience,
1547
01:07:08,921 --> 01:07:09,956
"Show us your tits."
1548
01:07:10,060 --> 01:07:11,544
Like, it's just a given.
1549
01:07:11,648 --> 01:07:13,132
That happens every show.
1550
01:07:13,236 --> 01:07:16,204
But these were arenas,
and hundreds,
1551
01:07:16,308 --> 01:07:18,689
if not thousands of guys,
started chanting,
1552
01:07:18,793 --> 01:07:20,760
"Show us your tits!"
1553
01:07:20,864 --> 01:07:23,073
It's hard enough to be
out there doing it,
1554
01:07:23,177 --> 01:07:24,764
and then to have that
on top of it,
1555
01:07:24,868 --> 01:07:27,802
it was very hard
on your psyche.
1556
01:07:27,905 --> 01:07:30,253
The traditionally
male-dominated Warped Tour
1557
01:07:30,356 --> 01:07:32,117
has added five bands
1558
01:07:32,220 --> 01:07:34,222
with female members
to this year's lineup.
1559
01:07:34,326 --> 01:07:36,638
♪ You think that
you are hot stuff ♪
1560
01:07:36,742 --> 01:07:39,020
♪ Think that
you're pretty cool ♪
1561
01:07:39,124 --> 01:07:40,504
On the Warped Tour,
1562
01:07:40,608 --> 01:07:43,404
Blink 182 was
one of the headliners.
1563
01:07:43,507 --> 01:07:45,544
They just thought,
"Oh, this is a funny joke.
1564
01:07:45,647 --> 01:07:47,994
Like, which girl are we
gonna get pregnant tonight?"
1565
01:07:48,098 --> 01:07:49,548
And it was constant.
1566
01:07:49,651 --> 01:07:51,481
"Suck our [bleep].
Show us your tits.
1567
01:07:51,584 --> 01:07:53,759
We want more, you know,
[bleep]."
1568
01:07:53,862 --> 01:07:55,071
And so, eventually,
1569
01:07:55,174 --> 01:07:58,039
Theo started giving them shit
on stage.
1570
01:07:58,143 --> 01:07:59,799
We're like, you know what?
That's not funny. [bleep] you.
1571
01:07:59,903 --> 01:08:01,836
The Lunachicks didn't like our
boob comments.
1572
01:08:01,939 --> 01:08:02,630
They didn't like our band.
1573
01:08:02,733 --> 01:08:04,080
The Lunachicks
did not like our band.
1574
01:08:04,183 --> 01:08:06,185
This song is
for all the girls.
1575
01:08:07,738 --> 01:08:09,292
And it's called
"Knuckle Sandwich,"
1576
01:08:09,395 --> 01:08:11,673
'cause don't take fuckin' shit
from anybody.
1577
01:08:11,777 --> 01:08:14,400
♪ Don't want to hear it,
don't want to hear it ♪
1578
01:08:14,504 --> 01:08:16,540
♪ Don't want to hear it,
no, no, no, no ♪
1579
01:08:16,644 --> 01:08:20,475
We had a real heavy
guy-band thing going on.
1580
01:08:20,579 --> 01:08:23,651
And being gay,
I wasn't enamored
1581
01:08:23,754 --> 01:08:26,964
by all the guys
and all the crew.
1582
01:08:27,068 --> 01:08:28,207
You know,
it's nothing but guys,
1583
01:08:28,311 --> 01:08:30,002
guys, guys, guys, guys.
1584
01:08:30,106 --> 01:08:32,694
And the girls addressed me
and said,
1585
01:08:32,798 --> 01:08:34,420
"We want to make sure
that you're cool.
1586
01:08:34,524 --> 01:08:37,354
You seem to be, like,
annoyed with the boy bands."
1587
01:08:37,458 --> 01:08:39,563
And I was like,
"No, man, I'm cool."
1588
01:08:39,667 --> 01:08:42,221
You know, I was
in the band for life.
1589
01:08:42,325 --> 01:08:44,637
You know, I was--I was a lifer.
1590
01:08:46,777 --> 01:08:49,125
But then there was
a question brought up
1591
01:08:49,228 --> 01:08:51,368
at the end of our last album.
1592
01:08:51,472 --> 01:08:53,059
It's like,
"Oh, we want to adjust
1593
01:08:53,163 --> 01:08:54,751
the songwriting credits."
1594
01:08:54,854 --> 01:08:56,753
Oh, really?
1595
01:08:56,856 --> 01:08:58,548
Put your mask on.
1596
01:08:58,651 --> 01:09:00,170
Chip.
1597
01:09:00,274 --> 01:09:02,828
We were very
"all for one and one for all."
1598
01:09:02,931 --> 01:09:04,519
So when we first started
recording, you know,
1599
01:09:04,623 --> 01:09:05,831
all of the rights
to everything
1600
01:09:05,934 --> 01:09:06,901
were shared equally.
1601
01:09:07,004 --> 01:09:07,936
It was a joke.
1602
01:09:08,040 --> 01:09:09,628
I mean, 3/4 of what?
1603
01:09:09,731 --> 01:09:10,836
Nothing.
1604
01:09:10,939 --> 01:09:13,287
A song about my dead hamster?
1605
01:09:13,390 --> 01:09:16,497
As we grew up,
we began to write separately
1606
01:09:16,600 --> 01:09:21,053
rather than building music
together as a group.
1607
01:09:21,157 --> 01:09:24,988
I had said I would like
some kind of acknowledgment
1608
01:09:25,091 --> 01:09:28,509
or some extra credit for some
of the things that I've done.
1609
01:09:28,612 --> 01:09:30,752
Basically, I was asking for
1610
01:09:30,856 --> 01:09:32,754
a higher percentage
of writers' share.
1611
01:09:34,066 --> 01:09:35,343
All right.
1612
01:09:35,447 --> 01:09:37,518
Well, that puts me
at the worst level.
1613
01:09:37,621 --> 01:09:39,209
So now you're gonna make me
1614
01:09:39,313 --> 01:09:42,385
the least paid person
in the band?
1615
01:09:42,488 --> 01:09:46,734
You know, being the drummer,
I--I don't write songs.
1616
01:09:46,837 --> 01:09:49,219
But if I play
behind a guitarist,
1617
01:09:49,323 --> 01:09:51,256
I can influence
what they're doing.
1618
01:09:51,359 --> 01:09:54,362
Like, you're coming
in with A-A-A, B-B-B,
1619
01:09:54,466 --> 01:09:57,952
and I'm going,
hey, let's stop here,
1620
01:09:58,055 --> 01:10:01,058
and I'm gonna do a fill,
and now let's double time it.
1621
01:10:01,162 --> 01:10:03,406
And I would always write
the intros,
1622
01:10:03,509 --> 01:10:06,271
the bridges, the outros.
1623
01:10:06,374 --> 01:10:08,204
I guess I stoked a fire
1624
01:10:08,307 --> 01:10:10,551
that I didn't even
realize existed,
1625
01:10:10,654 --> 01:10:13,416
but I hit a nerve,
and the whole thing
1626
01:10:13,519 --> 01:10:15,383
kind of just blew up.
1627
01:10:15,487 --> 01:10:18,593
Chip stood up,
maybe overturned a table,
1628
01:10:18,697 --> 01:10:20,733
called me every name
in the book,
1629
01:10:20,837 --> 01:10:22,010
stormed out of the room.
1630
01:10:22,114 --> 01:10:23,840
Yeah, we are crackers.
1631
01:10:23,943 --> 01:10:26,946
Chip was, to me,
my partner in crime.
1632
01:10:27,050 --> 01:10:29,949
I could always count on Chip
to go out after the show
1633
01:10:30,053 --> 01:10:32,400
and get into trouble--
like, go see the town,
1634
01:10:32,504 --> 01:10:34,368
stay up all night.
1635
01:10:34,471 --> 01:10:36,611
Chip was like...
1636
01:10:37,716 --> 01:10:40,374
She was like
your older brother.
1637
01:10:40,477 --> 01:10:42,824
But at that moment,
we didn't see
1638
01:10:42,928 --> 01:10:45,862
how we could go on tour
with each other.
1639
01:10:47,346 --> 01:10:51,385
It was maybe just
a ridiculous moment.
1640
01:10:51,488 --> 01:10:54,664
I loved my time in the band.
1641
01:10:54,767 --> 01:10:57,183
I would not hesitate
to play with the girls.
1642
01:10:57,287 --> 01:10:58,323
Oh, no, no, no.
1643
01:10:58,426 --> 01:11:01,153
I have dreams.
1644
01:11:01,257 --> 01:11:05,813
This is the unfinished
love affair.
1645
01:11:05,916 --> 01:11:11,508
♪ Isn't it hard
when you're spoiled rotten ♪
1646
01:11:11,612 --> 01:11:17,652
♪ Got another luxury problem
1647
01:11:17,756 --> 01:11:24,728
♪ Problem
1648
01:11:24,832 --> 01:11:26,074
Whoo!
1649
01:11:29,457 --> 01:11:31,148
♪ Got a roof over my head
1650
01:11:31,252 --> 01:11:33,012
♪ Got a tub and a bed
1651
01:11:33,116 --> 01:11:35,152
♪ Yet my life is on the brink
1652
01:11:35,256 --> 01:11:37,500
♪ Yeah, my life,
it fucking stinks ♪
1653
01:11:37,603 --> 01:11:40,606
We were all so proud of
the last album we just made.
1654
01:11:40,710 --> 01:11:43,402
We were touring
with the Buzzcocks.
1655
01:11:43,506 --> 01:11:45,335
We spent a month in Australia.
1656
01:11:45,439 --> 01:11:48,062
Like, we were having
a great time.
1657
01:11:48,165 --> 01:11:51,548
But I also started
to feel like
1658
01:11:51,652 --> 01:11:53,274
I'd rather quit
while we were ahead.
1659
01:11:54,931 --> 01:11:59,107
Summer of 2000, Helen was
drumming on that tour.
1660
01:12:01,109 --> 01:12:03,353
Theo, Syd, and I were talking
about our future.
1661
01:12:03,457 --> 01:12:04,803
The question came up,
you know, well,
1662
01:12:04,906 --> 01:12:07,737
how much longer are
we gonna do this?
1663
01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:12,500
And I said,
"I think I'm ready to go."
1664
01:12:12,604 --> 01:12:15,676
And Theo, surprisingly, said,
"Yeah, me too.
1665
01:12:15,779 --> 01:12:18,437
I feel exactly the same."
1666
01:12:18,541 --> 01:12:20,336
And Syd was like, "Wait,
1667
01:12:20,439 --> 01:12:22,372
what are you guys
talking about?"
1668
01:12:24,340 --> 01:12:26,445
I never thought
it would really end.
1669
01:12:27,515 --> 01:12:29,379
It totally fucked me up.
1670
01:12:29,483 --> 01:12:30,415
It was the first time
in my whole life--
1671
01:12:30,518 --> 01:12:32,313
'cause we started so young--
1672
01:12:32,417 --> 01:12:33,970
that I was, like,
without that.
1673
01:12:34,073 --> 01:12:37,042
I was like, what the fuck
am I supposed to do now?
1674
01:12:37,145 --> 01:12:38,664
We made this thing.
1675
01:12:38,768 --> 01:12:40,942
And there were other bands
that make more money.
1676
01:12:41,046 --> 01:12:42,599
There are bands
that sell more records.
1677
01:12:42,703 --> 01:12:44,843
But nobody could be us.
1678
01:12:44,946 --> 01:12:46,741
We were the best
version of us.
1679
01:12:46,845 --> 01:12:48,122
That sounds so stupid
saying it.
1680
01:12:48,225 --> 01:12:50,780
But it was, like, this feeling
like we couldn't be outdone
1681
01:12:50,883 --> 01:12:53,438
because we were just
being who we were,
1682
01:12:53,541 --> 01:12:54,991
and that felt perfect.
1683
01:12:55,094 --> 01:12:59,444
And I think I have always
wanted to feel that again.
1684
01:13:01,100 --> 01:13:01,998
Hi, everybody.
1685
01:13:04,276 --> 01:13:07,003
Tonight we're going to be
celebrating the Lunachicks
catalog.
1686
01:13:09,419 --> 01:13:12,111
Feel free to sing along.
1687
01:13:38,103 --> 01:13:42,245
It wasn't that long
after we broke up,
1688
01:13:42,348 --> 01:13:45,075
I found out I was really sick.
1689
01:13:45,179 --> 01:13:46,836
I had cancer,
1690
01:13:46,939 --> 01:13:50,633
and I needed
emergency surgery.
1691
01:13:50,736 --> 01:13:52,324
I went into the hospital,
1692
01:13:52,428 --> 01:13:56,639
and Gina and Theo were
there with me.
1693
01:13:56,742 --> 01:14:01,126
And I, like, had this moment
where I just--
1694
01:14:01,229 --> 01:14:06,580
you know, who fucking cares
how many records you sold?
1695
01:14:06,683 --> 01:14:08,754
I've had, like,
this fantastic life
1696
01:14:08,858 --> 01:14:11,826
that money can't buy,
you know,
1697
01:14:11,930 --> 01:14:14,035
the kind of things that we did
1698
01:14:14,139 --> 01:14:16,141
and the times
that we had together.
1699
01:14:16,244 --> 01:14:21,146
The fact that
they were there with me was--
1700
01:14:21,249 --> 01:14:24,460
like, I got--I got,
that, like, we--we won.
1701
01:14:32,398 --> 01:14:34,539
- Oh, my God.
- Oh.
1702
01:14:39,785 --> 01:14:41,511
Attack of the 50-foot woman!
1703
01:14:44,134 --> 01:14:46,792
Oh, my God, Gina!
1704
01:14:53,178 --> 01:14:54,662
Oh, that's some
perspective, isn't it?
1705
01:14:54,766 --> 01:14:55,698
It's a little too much
perspective.
1706
01:14:55,801 --> 01:14:57,389
A little too much
perspective.
1707
01:15:07,157 --> 01:15:09,643
I came to LA in 1997.
1708
01:15:09,746 --> 01:15:12,749
I have no history
of drug use here,
1709
01:15:12,853 --> 01:15:15,372
so it was like a clean slate.
1710
01:15:15,476 --> 01:15:17,892
I'm coming up on 20 years
of recovery off of heroin,
1711
01:15:17,996 --> 01:15:20,032
off of alcohol, off of pills.
1712
01:15:20,136 --> 01:15:21,931
Yes, my dear.
1713
01:15:22,034 --> 01:15:23,795
It was really important to me
1714
01:15:23,898 --> 01:15:26,591
to just not hide
from who I am.
1715
01:15:26,694 --> 01:15:28,316
Hey, everybody, you're here
with Becky Wreck today.
1716
01:15:28,420 --> 01:15:29,525
Guess what we're making.
1717
01:15:29,628 --> 01:15:31,768
Carne motherfucking asada!
1718
01:15:31,872 --> 01:15:32,631
Yeah!
1719
01:15:32,735 --> 01:15:35,013
I'm a private chef now.
1720
01:15:35,116 --> 01:15:37,981
You know, I've always felt
the anti-queer vibe
1721
01:15:38,085 --> 01:15:41,398
from people,
but now I feel the ageism.
1722
01:15:41,502 --> 01:15:43,228
I mean, I never used
face cream.
1723
01:15:43,331 --> 01:15:44,505
I never used earplugs.
1724
01:15:44,609 --> 01:15:46,334
I mean, all the things
I never did,
1725
01:15:46,438 --> 01:15:49,752
they take--it shows, you know,
1726
01:15:49,855 --> 01:15:50,718
but I mean, whatever.
1727
01:15:50,822 --> 01:15:51,857
What do I care?
1728
01:15:51,961 --> 01:15:54,135
My history of my life
is on my face.
1729
01:15:54,239 --> 01:15:57,138
I'm still here,
and I'm still rocking.
1730
01:16:03,213 --> 01:16:05,699
I've got a house
in the country,
1731
01:16:05,802 --> 01:16:07,459
in Pennsylvania,
1732
01:16:07,563 --> 01:16:11,359
and I maintain
a 3-acre property.
1733
01:16:12,809 --> 01:16:15,743
I have a job, a loving wife,
1734
01:16:15,847 --> 01:16:18,781
and I got my drums
in the barn.
1735
01:16:18,884 --> 01:16:20,990
Well, you see the beard.
1736
01:16:24,200 --> 01:16:26,305
I grew up in a time
1737
01:16:26,409 --> 01:16:29,067
when you really didn't
come out like that.
1738
01:16:30,516 --> 01:16:33,174
Now kids are coming out
as trans.
1739
01:16:33,278 --> 01:16:34,590
You know, it's like, for me,
1740
01:16:34,693 --> 01:16:37,351
it's like I had to wait
my whole life.
1741
01:16:37,454 --> 01:16:40,561
You know, people have always
told me, "Chip, you're a dude.
1742
01:16:40,665 --> 01:16:42,356
You're a dude."
1743
01:16:42,459 --> 01:16:45,601
So now I'm enjoying this,
you know?
1744
01:16:45,704 --> 01:16:47,430
I gotta tell you,
the testosterone thing
1745
01:16:47,533 --> 01:16:49,087
is pretty fucking cool.
1746
01:16:51,986 --> 01:16:53,712
I work as
a makeup artist now
1747
01:16:53,816 --> 01:16:55,714
in the fashion industry.
1748
01:16:57,129 --> 01:17:00,167
Being a woman who's aging,
it's not easy.
1749
01:17:00,270 --> 01:17:02,514
And then coming
from that industry,
1750
01:17:02,618 --> 01:17:04,758
I think it makes it
even worse.
1751
01:17:04,861 --> 01:17:06,449
I feel more and more
comfortable about it
1752
01:17:06,552 --> 01:17:07,795
every day, but still,
1753
01:17:07,899 --> 01:17:10,487
I'm working on so much
to feel good.
1754
01:17:10,591 --> 01:17:12,282
Do you have any
red lipsticks?
1755
01:17:12,386 --> 01:17:13,663
Of course.
1756
01:17:13,767 --> 01:17:17,494
And I also want to tell
other women that it's OK
1757
01:17:17,598 --> 01:17:19,911
and tell my daughter
that it's OK.
1758
01:17:20,014 --> 01:17:22,189
You don't have to be
a Barbie doll.
1759
01:17:23,880 --> 01:17:26,331
It's so hard with everything
that we're fed,
1760
01:17:26,434 --> 01:17:29,679
still, to really believe that.
1761
01:17:33,269 --> 01:17:35,064
My single came out,
1762
01:17:35,167 --> 01:17:38,895
and I am preparing
for the music video.
1763
01:17:38,999 --> 01:17:41,001
I have two dancers, um,
1764
01:17:41,104 --> 01:17:44,970
and I am making these masks
for them to wear.
1765
01:17:45,419 --> 01:17:48,249
The hardest part about being
an artist or a musician
1766
01:17:48,353 --> 01:17:51,011
is having to sell
your personal self.
1767
01:17:51,114 --> 01:17:52,737
I don't have the personality.
1768
01:17:52,840 --> 01:17:54,946
It's not who I am.
1769
01:17:55,049 --> 01:17:58,432
This is who I am,
you know, what I make.
1770
01:17:58,535 --> 01:18:01,021
Would you be scared
if you saw this?
1771
01:18:01,124 --> 01:18:03,609
♪ Break the rules
1772
01:18:03,713 --> 01:18:06,716
Only 1% out of
all the billions
1773
01:18:06,820 --> 01:18:09,512
of incredibly talented artists
out there
1774
01:18:09,615 --> 01:18:12,929
probably make a living
doing art.
1775
01:18:13,033 --> 01:18:17,416
So I do resent the struggle
of always being broke
1776
01:18:17,520 --> 01:18:19,695
and always trying to figure
out, what am I doing?
1777
01:18:19,798 --> 01:18:21,144
This is crazy--I'm too old
1778
01:18:21,248 --> 01:18:22,974
to be piecemealing
my life together,
1779
01:18:23,077 --> 01:18:24,665
and I should have a real job.
1780
01:18:24,769 --> 01:18:27,357
But that's just not me.
1781
01:18:27,461 --> 01:18:30,188
I've never stopped creating.
1782
01:18:31,879 --> 01:18:34,675
For me, if I stopped,
I would probably die.
1783
01:18:41,509 --> 01:18:44,961
It's the last day
of business of my restaurant
1784
01:18:45,065 --> 01:18:47,446
that I opened in 2005.
1785
01:18:47,550 --> 01:18:50,933
This was my career
after my music career.
1786
01:18:51,416 --> 01:18:53,142
Our lease expired,
and our neighborhood is
1787
01:18:53,245 --> 01:18:55,454
turning a little
corporate corner.
1788
01:18:55,558 --> 01:18:58,906
So this will be, like,
a BMW showroom or something.
1789
01:19:00,390 --> 01:19:02,668
I feel a lot of things.
1790
01:19:02,772 --> 01:19:05,533
This whole identity
just is dissolving
1791
01:19:05,637 --> 01:19:07,743
around me, you know?
1792
01:19:07,846 --> 01:19:10,435
I kind of feel like
it's me again.
1793
01:19:10,538 --> 01:19:12,126
all: Sydney! Sydney!
1794
01:19:12,230 --> 01:19:14,991
I really feel
artistic again.
1795
01:19:15,095 --> 01:19:16,510
I feel creative again.
1796
01:19:16,613 --> 01:19:18,167
It's, like, rushing at me,
1797
01:19:18,270 --> 01:19:20,859
like these football players,
like, charging,
1798
01:19:20,963 --> 01:19:22,758
you know, on some play.
1799
01:19:22,861 --> 01:19:24,656
I don't know anything
about football.
1800
01:19:24,760 --> 01:19:26,071
Oof.
1801
01:19:26,175 --> 01:19:28,073
Oh, my God,
you can see the dust flying.
1802
01:19:29,695 --> 01:19:31,801
Hello, WFMU listeners.
1803
01:19:31,905 --> 01:19:33,182
This is the "Rock
and Roller Derby" show.
1804
01:19:33,285 --> 01:19:35,287
I am Suzy Hotrod, your host.
1805
01:19:39,326 --> 01:19:41,293
♪ Za-za-za-za
1806
01:19:42,605 --> 01:19:45,125
I think I'm gonna stick
with my promise
1807
01:19:45,228 --> 01:19:47,990
that every week until
the Lunachicks reunion shows
1808
01:19:48,093 --> 01:19:50,061
in November, I'm gonna play
a Lunachicks song,
1809
01:19:50,164 --> 01:19:51,821
because I love that band
so much.
1810
01:19:55,445 --> 01:19:56,757
It took us a few years
to get it together.
1811
01:19:56,861 --> 01:19:58,034
♪ Bad, bad man
1812
01:19:58,138 --> 01:20:00,796
♪ Bad, bad man, bad, bad man
1813
01:20:00,899 --> 01:20:03,729
And then, of course, we got
shut down by the pandemic.
1814
01:20:06,802 --> 01:20:08,734
But we're finally
ready to play.
1815
01:20:11,668 --> 01:20:14,361
Hello, Cleveland.
1816
01:20:14,464 --> 01:20:16,708
Check, check, check,
check, check.
1817
01:20:16,812 --> 01:20:19,607
♪ Ooh, yeah
1818
01:20:26,649 --> 01:20:28,754
Michael!
1819
01:20:28,858 --> 01:20:31,309
- Hi, how are you?
- Hi.
1820
01:20:31,412 --> 01:20:33,069
Hi, hi, hi.
1821
01:20:33,173 --> 01:20:34,105
Wow.
1822
01:20:34,208 --> 01:20:36,590
Wow, you're, uh--
you guys are old.
1823
01:20:39,006 --> 01:20:40,870
Good, good.
1824
01:20:40,974 --> 01:20:41,906
Good, good.
1825
01:20:42,009 --> 01:20:45,668
Yes, we have arrived,
1826
01:20:45,771 --> 01:20:47,773
32 years later.
1827
01:20:58,923 --> 01:21:00,372
How are those knees holding up?
1828
01:21:00,476 --> 01:21:01,580
- Not.
- No?
1829
01:21:05,032 --> 01:21:06,585
OK, let's get up. Sorry.
1830
01:21:12,246 --> 01:21:14,386
We continued working
on the book.
1831
01:21:14,490 --> 01:21:16,216
Book is done.
1832
01:21:18,563 --> 01:21:20,876
The title of the book
is "Fallopian Rhapsody."
1833
01:21:20,979 --> 01:21:23,982
It's named after their song.
1834
01:21:24,086 --> 01:21:25,604
Finally, it's actually here.
1835
01:21:25,708 --> 01:21:26,951
You guys, we have a book.
1836
01:21:27,054 --> 01:21:28,780
It's so crazy!
1837
01:21:32,128 --> 01:21:33,992
♪ Shake, shake, shake
1838
01:21:48,213 --> 01:21:49,559
We're ending there.
1839
01:21:53,943 --> 01:21:59,190
I'm so psyched to get
on stage with my best friends,
1840
01:21:59,293 --> 01:22:01,951
who are so kickass
and remarkable.
1841
01:22:02,055 --> 01:22:05,230
And I couldn't be more proud
to be on stage,
1842
01:22:05,334 --> 01:22:07,646
kicking it and playing
rock 'n' roll,
1843
01:22:07,750 --> 01:22:09,752
because, come on,
1844
01:22:09,855 --> 01:22:11,616
it's the funnest thing
in the world.
1845
01:22:11,719 --> 01:22:12,720
OK?
1846
01:22:14,688 --> 01:22:16,310
Years in the making.
1847
01:22:16,414 --> 01:22:17,725
Yeah!
1848
01:22:17,829 --> 01:22:19,486
We made it.
1849
01:22:19,589 --> 01:22:20,936
It's the Grog Shop.
1850
01:22:21,039 --> 01:22:23,386
- Grog show!
- The Grog Shop.
1851
01:22:32,671 --> 01:22:34,639
Love you.
1852
01:22:38,919 --> 01:22:40,265
Ready?
1853
01:22:40,369 --> 01:22:42,750
We're gonna go in there
and fucking kill it.
1854
01:24:10,252 --> 01:24:17,362
♪ You're a
1855
01:24:17,466 --> 01:24:20,365
♪ Mental case,
'bout time I smash your face ♪
1856
01:24:20,469 --> 01:24:22,505
♪ Got a habit
of stepping out of line ♪
1857
01:24:22,609 --> 01:24:24,507
♪ Oh, yeah, well,
here comes your time ♪
1858
01:24:24,611 --> 01:24:27,786
♪ You're a damn disgrace,
an insult to the human race ♪
1859
01:24:27,890 --> 01:24:30,065
♪ Try and make me feel
bad all the time ♪
1860
01:24:30,168 --> 01:24:32,619
♪ Good thing
you're not my sign ♪
1861
01:24:32,722 --> 01:24:35,035
♪ Oh, can't have me
1862
01:24:35,139 --> 01:24:37,520
♪ Can't have me
1863
01:24:37,624 --> 01:24:39,212
♪ You always want
what you can't have ♪
1864
01:24:39,315 --> 01:24:41,421
♪ And, baby,
you can't have me ♪
1865
01:24:47,530 --> 01:24:48,842
♪ You're
1866
01:24:48,945 --> 01:24:51,120
Getting to play together
for the first time,
1867
01:24:51,224 --> 01:24:52,949
talk a little bit
about what that was like
1868
01:24:53,053 --> 01:24:55,055
to be together again
on the stage.
1869
01:24:55,159 --> 01:24:58,438
♪ A bleeding heart
1870
01:24:58,541 --> 01:25:00,716
♪ Not even worth a fart
1871
01:25:00,819 --> 01:25:03,063
♪ Got the worst halitosis
that I've smelled ♪
1872
01:25:03,167 --> 01:25:04,892
♪ You can just go to hell
1873
01:25:04,996 --> 01:25:06,653
It's like another world.
1874
01:25:06,756 --> 01:25:09,414
Like, instead of
we had something to prove,
1875
01:25:09,518 --> 01:25:13,315
it's like people
wanted to like us.
1876
01:25:13,418 --> 01:25:14,902
It was
a completely different
1877
01:25:15,006 --> 01:25:17,319
fucking universe out there.
1878
01:25:17,422 --> 01:25:20,598
A world where everybody
wants you to win.
1879
01:25:32,196 --> 01:25:34,232
♪ You can't have me
1880
01:25:34,336 --> 01:25:38,029
♪ Can't have me,
can't have me ♪
1881
01:25:38,133 --> 01:25:40,238
♪ Always want
what you can't have ♪
1882
01:25:40,342 --> 01:25:44,139
♪ Can't have me,
can't have me ♪
1883
01:25:44,242 --> 01:25:46,658
♪ Can't have me, me, me, me
1884
01:25:46,762 --> 01:25:48,004
♪ Me
1885
01:25:52,457 --> 01:25:55,080
We have a special surprise
for you tonight.
1886
01:25:56,530 --> 01:26:01,121
It's our old friend, Sindi B!
1887
01:26:10,993 --> 01:26:15,135
♪ Well, I am Jan Brady
1888
01:26:15,239 --> 01:26:16,688
♪ And you must believe that
1889
01:26:16,792 --> 01:26:19,657
♪ Or forever perish
in your doubt ♪
1890
01:26:19,760 --> 01:26:24,938
Being back on stage with
the Chicks felt like home.
1891
01:26:25,041 --> 01:26:28,631
It's natural, like magnets
that pull us together.
1892
01:26:31,289 --> 01:26:33,533
I've been living in Germany
for 15 years,
1893
01:26:33,636 --> 01:26:36,984
not playing in a band,
but doing other stuff,
1894
01:26:37,088 --> 01:26:38,779
like having a family
1895
01:26:38,883 --> 01:26:42,058
and stuff that is very
un-rock 'n' roll.
1896
01:26:42,162 --> 01:26:45,061
But I'm still rock 'n' roll.
1897
01:26:45,165 --> 01:26:47,236
♪ What a trip
1898
01:26:47,340 --> 01:26:50,170
♪ There I am
1899
01:26:56,659 --> 01:27:02,044
These lifelong friends
who are my chosen family,
1900
01:27:02,147 --> 01:27:04,149
being together on stage,
1901
01:27:04,253 --> 01:27:06,704
there is nothing like it.
1902
01:27:09,776 --> 01:27:11,502
It's a once-in-a-lifetime
thing
1903
01:27:11,605 --> 01:27:13,366
that has lasted a lifetime.
1904
01:27:13,469 --> 01:27:16,092
♪ Miss Demeanor
on the stage ♪
1905
01:27:16,196 --> 01:27:18,957
♪ Miss Hap, oh, I implore you
1906
01:27:19,061 --> 01:27:22,098
♪ It's no mystery,
I don't want to know you ♪
1907
01:27:22,202 --> 01:27:24,791
♪ Miss America,
I can't ignore you ♪
1908
01:27:24,894 --> 01:27:28,070
♪ Can't wipe out
all our progress ♪
1909
01:27:28,173 --> 01:27:30,900
♪ With a little cotton ball
1910
01:27:31,004 --> 01:27:33,524
♪ Slice and dice your face
to perfection ♪
1911
01:27:33,627 --> 01:27:36,492
♪ Slip up a word
and down you fall ♪
1912
01:27:36,596 --> 01:27:39,115
♪ Teeth are capped,
lipo-sucked ♪
1913
01:27:39,219 --> 01:27:42,567
♪ Hair is set
and nose is contoured ♪
1914
01:27:42,671 --> 01:27:45,329
♪ Tummy tucked
and boobs are lifted ♪
1915
01:27:45,432 --> 01:27:48,159
♪ Uncross your legs,
your pantyhose shifted ♪
1916
01:27:48,263 --> 01:27:49,194
♪ Am I smiling enough
1917
01:27:49,298 --> 01:27:50,541
♪ Am I smiling too much
1918
01:27:50,644 --> 01:27:52,336
♪ Am I tucked in and buckled
1919
01:27:52,439 --> 01:27:53,923
♪ Do my tits touch
1920
01:27:54,027 --> 01:27:55,339
♪ Hi, how are you
1921
01:27:55,442 --> 01:27:56,788
♪ How high are you
1922
01:27:56,892 --> 01:27:59,722
♪ Let's get started,
it's never enough ♪
1923
01:28:08,283 --> 01:28:11,286
♪ You put the extra
in ordinary ♪
1924
01:28:11,389 --> 01:28:14,565
♪ You add the minus
to the plus size ♪
1925
01:28:14,668 --> 01:28:17,395
♪ You put the blues
into my brown eyes ♪
1926
01:28:17,499 --> 01:28:20,295
♪ You put the turd
into Saturday ♪
1927
01:28:20,398 --> 01:28:23,298
♪ Can't wipe out
all our progress ♪
1928
01:28:23,401 --> 01:28:25,886
♪ With a little cotton ball
1929
01:28:25,990 --> 01:28:28,717
♪ Slice and dice
your ass to perfection ♪
1930
01:28:28,820 --> 01:28:30,960
♪ Slip up a word
and down you fall ♪
1931
01:28:31,064 --> 01:28:32,479
♪ Am I smiling enough
1932
01:28:32,583 --> 01:28:33,998
♪ Am I smiling too much
1933
01:28:34,101 --> 01:28:35,551
♪ Am I tucked in and buckled
1934
01:28:35,655 --> 01:28:37,104
♪ Do my tits touch
1935
01:28:37,208 --> 01:28:38,520
♪ Hi, how are you
1936
01:28:38,623 --> 01:28:40,349
♪ How high are you
1937
01:28:40,453 --> 01:28:43,076
♪ Less teeth and more tits,
it's never enough ♪
1938
01:28:44,974 --> 01:28:50,221
♪ Never be good enough
1939
01:28:50,325 --> 01:28:52,119
♪ You got less teeth
and more tits ♪
1940
01:28:52,223 --> 01:28:54,398
♪ What a bunch of hypocrites
trying to change the world ♪
1941
01:28:54,501 --> 01:28:55,675
♪ Oh, oh, oh
1942
01:28:55,778 --> 01:28:58,263
♪ Bonded tooth smiles,
traveled so many miles ♪
1943
01:28:58,367 --> 01:28:59,748
♪ What you gonna do now
1944
01:28:59,851 --> 01:29:00,990
♪ Oh, oh, oh
1945
01:29:01,094 --> 01:29:05,374
♪ Hey, yo
1946
01:29:05,478 --> 01:29:08,377
♪ Something different
and meaningful ♪
1947
01:29:08,481 --> 01:29:10,621
♪ Makes that smile
not seem no evil ♪
1948
01:29:10,724 --> 01:29:12,795
♪ When that crown
falls off your head ♪
1949
01:29:12,899 --> 01:29:15,142
♪ Will you still feel
better off dead ♪
1950
01:29:15,246 --> 01:29:16,454
♪ Yeah
1951
01:29:16,558 --> 01:29:19,526
♪ I wanna see something else
1952
01:29:19,630 --> 01:29:24,393
♪ Why don't you show me
something else ♪
1953
01:29:24,497 --> 01:29:28,949
♪ I want so much
to see something else ♪
1954
01:29:29,053 --> 01:29:33,747
♪ Why don't you show me
something else ♪
1955
01:29:33,851 --> 01:29:38,096
♪ Hey, hey
1956
01:29:38,200 --> 01:29:41,617
♪ Hey, yeah
1957
01:29:44,551 --> 01:29:46,104
Oh, my goodness.
1958
01:30:02,466 --> 01:30:03,639
Something, something there.
1959
01:30:03,743 --> 01:30:05,020
Something, something. Help.
1960
01:30:11,509 --> 01:30:13,822
♪ Ugliness is
only skin deep ♪
1961
01:30:13,925 --> 01:30:16,549
♪ And I know
the beauty is a beast ♪
1962
01:30:16,652 --> 01:30:18,999
♪ Ugliness is only skin deep
1963
01:30:19,103 --> 01:30:22,934
♪ And I know
the beauty is a beast ♪
1964
01:30:23,038 --> 01:30:27,836
both: ♪ Beauty is a beast,
beauty is a beast ♪
1965
01:30:27,939 --> 01:30:33,531
♪ Beauty is a beast,
beauty is a beast ♪
1966
01:30:33,635 --> 01:30:35,188
Guitar solo,
bridge, something.
1967
01:30:35,291 --> 01:30:36,603
I don't know.
1968
01:30:36,707 --> 01:30:38,536
Maybe do that thing
from the beginning.
1969
01:30:38,640 --> 01:30:40,469
- That's this.
- Oh.
1970
01:30:40,573 --> 01:30:42,816
I can do that,
something off of the--
1971
01:30:42,920 --> 01:30:45,060
and then just...
1972
01:30:45,163 --> 01:30:47,131
♪ Pretty ugly
1973
01:30:47,234 --> 01:30:48,650
both: ♪ Pretty ugly
1974
01:30:48,753 --> 01:30:50,755
- ♪ It's a thin line
- ♪ Pretty ugly
1975
01:30:50,859 --> 01:30:53,309
- ♪ Want you all the time
- ♪ Pretty ugly
1976
01:30:53,413 --> 01:30:55,760
- ♪ Face I love to hate
- ♪ Pretty ugly
1977
01:30:55,864 --> 01:30:58,038
- ♪ Try to stare
- ♪ Pretty ugly
1978
01:30:58,142 --> 01:31:00,765
- ♪ And I don't care
- ♪ Pretty ugly
1979
01:31:00,869 --> 01:31:03,043
- ♪ It's a thin line
- ♪ Pretty ugly
1980
01:31:03,147 --> 01:31:05,460
- ♪ In your own mind
- ♪ Pretty ugly
1981
01:31:05,563 --> 01:31:06,702
♪ You one ugly
son of a bitch ♪
1982
01:31:06,806 --> 01:31:08,497
♪ Pretty ugly
1983
01:31:08,601 --> 01:31:10,672
- ♪ Butt ugly
- ♪ Pretty ugly
1984
01:31:10,775 --> 01:31:12,812
- ♪ But I want to kiss you
- ♪ Pretty ugly
1985
01:31:12,915 --> 01:31:15,470
- ♪ On your ugly lips
- ♪ Pretty ugly
1986
01:31:15,573 --> 01:31:17,506
♪ You ugly son of a bitch
1987
01:31:19,232 --> 01:31:20,992
♪ You one ugly mo--
ugly motherfucker ♪
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