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[birds chirping]
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- This is my wall
of RVD action figures.
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You know, I was signing
autographs of so many figures,
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I thought, well, I should
I have my own collection.
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I have the figures grouped,
you know, by my career.
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These are the original
EC-dub, right here.
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This is one of the more
expensive action figures.
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It's the, uh, variant
Micro Brawler with red eyes.
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[laughs]
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Those go for several
hundred dollars.
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It shows how big my career was.
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This is one of standard
to measure success by.
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- From Battle Creek, Michigan,
Rob Van Dam.
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- Oh, my God.
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- What made Rob cool is that
he was cool without
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trying to be cool.
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- Hey, whatever.
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- He's not the Showstopper.
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He's the show.
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- His move set was
revolutionary.
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Those matches changed the game.
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They became a blueprint
actually for what you're seeing
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in WWE nowadays.
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- What an ovation for RVD.
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- I think he could have gone to
the moon and back if it wasn't
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for a little speed bump.
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- Even as a kid he didn't like
anything organized and he didn't
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wanna be told what he had to do.
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- Unbelievable athleticism.
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- RVD one of the most popular
yet unorthodox competitors
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we've ever seen.
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- Everybody looks at me as being
different and I loved it.
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I did everything my way
and I ended up at the very top.
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I was born December 18th, 1970.
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I would say that growing up
I liked to risk safety.
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I liked to thrill myself
by jumping my bike.
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We're always building ramps
higher and higher.
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- He isn't afraid
of very much.
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Never has been.
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- When he was old enough,
I'd say maybe three,
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he would jump off the boat
in the water.
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He just- he just loved
the water.
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- He liked the diving boards.
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You can't get hurt
that way if you-
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if you go off the diving board.
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- He did all kind of stupid
things off of that diving board.
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I mean flips back, flips
forward, flip, double flips,
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you name it he did them.
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- I'm a bit of superstar in my
own mind trying to outdo
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whatever I saw anybody else do.
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- He was a great student
at first.
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- Academically gifted, is
what one of his teachers told
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us, but then he kinda slacked
off a little bit later on.
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- I think I always had issues
with fitting in to structures
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and categories.
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I always I think pushed back
against being forced to fit in
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to a position that was
predetermined for me.
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Still do.
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Some of my earliest memories of
professional wrestling were from
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the other kids that
enjoyed watching it.
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I thought that the idea sounded
silly, but I watched wrestling
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one time to hang out with
everybody and right away
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I was into it.
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"Leaping" Lanny Poffo was
a very big influence on me.
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He became my favorite wrestler
because he thought so far
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outside the box that I just
enjoyed watching him and-
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and his moves.
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- Beautiful maneuver.
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Hooks the leg.
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- Started watching wrestling
every week, became a really big
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fan and really enjoyed going
to the live shows.
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It was like the coolest
thing ever for me.
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One night Ted DiBiase was
in the ring.
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- Here he is, the
self-proclaimed
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Million Dollar Champion,
Ted DiBiase.
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- The Million Dollar Man's
character was based on how much
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more he had than everybody else.
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One of the ways that he
demonstrated that was he'd offer
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money to people in the crowd
to humiliate themselves.
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- And, uh, Ted DiBiase
points at me.
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I jumped over the guardrail.
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I was so excited.
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Slid into the ring.
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I already kissed his foot before
he was done with the sentence.
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I was so excited to be there.
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- From my perspective, that was
basically like the whole town
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in the stands watching me
when I was in the ring.
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I was the center of attention
and I knew that was gonna
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be my platform, you know.
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I wasn't gonna dance.
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I wasn't gonna sing.
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And this was a way to express
myself and hold the spotlight,
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entertain, show off.
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From that moment on, I thought
about nothing else.
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- He built his own little gym
thing to really bulk himself.
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He took an old swing set
and he had a-
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a weight bench with weights.
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I mean, he was really rocking
it down there.
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- Really studying wrestling
a lot, you know,
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like watching it.
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Me and my buddies would wrestle
each other and actually had
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matches at one of my friend's
houses and it wasn't too long
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until we found out that there
was a guy in town right there
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in Battle Creek that had
an actual ring.
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So, that became our next step.
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Our-our goal is we got
to get in that ring.
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- 10 o'clock at night somebody
knocks on my door, it's these
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two kids and they're like,
"Dude, can we get in your ring?"
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- We need to get in it,
you know.
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We're-we're gonna be wrestlers
when we grow up.
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This dude is like what?
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It turns out he's
a kickboxer promoter and
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he runs kickboxing shows.
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- I was like, we do
kickboxing, karate and boxing.
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We don't do wrestling,
but I'll make a deal with you.
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If you do karate, I'll let you
guys practice in the ring.
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He stuck his hand out
and said "Deal."
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So the next day they were there
and they never left.
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He fought just like my team.
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Push-ups, sit-ups,
a lot of actual sparring.
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He's very skilled.
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He's 15 whopping grown men
in night clubs.
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[crowd cheering]
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- I could take a lot of abuse,
I took a lot of hard shots and
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was able to keep smiling
while I was knocking guys out
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left and right.
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- Rob Szatkowski.
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I learned that I was really
good at kickboxing.
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- He had all the physical stuff,
but a lot of guys have that,
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but what you can't teach
is drive and
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determination and willpower.
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You got those or you don't.
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But his-his total focus
even when he was that
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little was wrestling.
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- I got into kickboxing through
Kit because that was mandatory
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in order for us wrestlers
to use the ring.
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I spent as much time
in that ring as possible.
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I lived in that ring.
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I had it in my own yard for
a very long time.
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- He had a grant to go
to Western Michigan University.
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He turned it down because
he says "I'm gonna wrestle."
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- We made a deal.
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I said, "Dad, give me two years.
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I'm gonna know if I'm gonna
make it or not.
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If I don't make it, you know,
I'll still be young enough
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to go to college."
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and he thought
that sounded fair.
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- I always told my kids,
whatever you do,
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be the best at it,
be the best you can do it,
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and I couldn't ask for anything
more than that,
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and, uh, he did.
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[laughs]
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- I ended up learning there's
actually a wrestling school
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not too far from my town.
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It's not just some school
because I had things that were
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important to me, who's training,
the longevity of the school,
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who have they trained
that's successful.
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Turns out, the original Sheik
was gonna be the guy for me
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and he checked all the boxes.
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The original Sheik was
just that, OG.
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He was a top box office
attraction
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in the 50s and the 60s.
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It wasn't like a wrestling
school, it was uh Sheik
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throwing us in the ring and
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telling us to beat each
other up.
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It was only rougher,
squeeze harder, bring the bodies
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in closer to each other because
Sheik was old school and we were
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taught the number one rule is
to protect the business.
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- Ladies and gentlemen
our next match,
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let me introduce the first,
Rob Zakowski.
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- I wrestled under many
different names.
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Rob Zat, Robbie Z,
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different forms
of my last name.
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- Back flip out of the corner.
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There came that savate kick.
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A karate move with a flash
of brilliance from Zakowski.
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Eventually, a wrestling promoter
named Ron Slinker gave me
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the name Rob Van Dam.
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Pretty sure because he thought
I looked like the actor.
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- Jean-Claude Van Damme was
an action movie icon
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who could do amazing martial
arts, kicks, he could do splits
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and could do all kinds of stuff.
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So, in comes this wrestler,
he can also do splits,
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he can also do kicks, and he
kinda looks like
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Jean-Claude Van Damme.
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- It could have just been for
the night as far as I was
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concerned, but it stuck.
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[Japanese language]
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Rob Van Dam
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[Japanese language]
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- Pretty soon,
I'm wrestling all over.
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I'm wrestling in Japan.
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Everything is about getting your
name out and your reputation
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at that point.
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- I saw a couple of matches that
Rob had had in Japan and knew we
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really had to get
our hands on him.
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[crowd chants "ECW"]
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- I remember one time flipping
through the channels and
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I caught a commercial for ECW,
and I couldn't believe
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that this was
professional wrestling.
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[crowd cheers]
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- ECW was very raw,
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gritty, in your face.
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- ECW were the renegades,
they were the misfits.
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It was everything that
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WCW and WWE
wasn't at that time.
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- WCW sucks.
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- It was a breath of fresh air
for the wrestling industry.
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- Oh, my God.
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- They broke the ring.
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- Paul Heyman was
running ECW,
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and he calls me and he talks
about me coming up
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to work for him.
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- Rob Van Dam making
his ECW debut,
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a well-travelled
world-class wrestler.
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- I thought he was a tremendous
talent that needed a little bit
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more seasoning,
but that he certainly had
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main event potential.
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- Fans here in the ECW
arena not sure what to make
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of Rob Van Dam yet.
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- It was not what I was used to
when it came to pro-wrestling.
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The crowd just waiting for you
to slip so they can jump on you.
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- The ECW fans don't take
to newcomers too well.
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- You had to be a really good
wrestler by the standards of the
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ECW crowd, it was intimidating.
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- Split-legged moonsault,
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Press two, he got him.
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Rob Van Dam is now extreme.
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Welcome to ECW.
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- Here you go.
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Five, four, three-
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- The Eliminators,-
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- Stop.
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- -you're a great team.
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- Ok, shh.
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Alright here we go.
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- When I first got to ECW, I
didn't wanna go anywhere near
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the camera to cut promos.
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Eliminators,
you're a great team.
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--
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Sorry.
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I was just too green,
uncomfortable with it,
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didn't think that I could
convince people
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that I believed in myself.
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- When Rob first came in,
his promos weren't the best,
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but he grew into that character
and he had the best coach
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in Paul Heyman.
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- My advice to Rob Van Dam
was just be authentic.
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Just be yourself.
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Just be Rob Van Dam.
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- I got the idea of actually
posing, showing my awesome arms
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without it looking like
I'm posing because I saw
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Jean-Claude Van Damme do it
in a movie, he knocks the guy
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out, he looks up at the
promoters and he says,
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"I want Tong Po."
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- I want Tong Po.
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Give me Tong Po.
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- I ripped it off a little bit,
but I never knew that I was
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making anything special.
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I just thought, you know, hey,
I'm just posing and the fans
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started doing this back to me.
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Then I realized that that's me,
like they're identifying me
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with 'cause I do that.
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It was just something that
I was doing that became me.
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You know, I really discovered
who RVD was in ECW.
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I learned how
to just bring myself out.
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9 out of 10 of viewers agree,
Rob Van Dam's face belongs
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on a television camera.
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- It was Jeff Spicoli from Fast
Times at Ridgemont High meets
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Jean-Claude Van Damme.
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- Rob Van Dam is a spectacular,
breathtaking,
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world-class athlete.
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And he knows it.
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- For the time, like, what-what
were you even watching?
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You know what I mean?
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It was so different from how
anybody else had ever wrestled.
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- The more I understood ECW
and the crowd,
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it flowed in my blood.
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I mean, I understood it,
I knew what was a good decision
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and what wasn't.
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Being called the whole -- show-
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- Whoa-ho, yeah.
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- -put a lot of pressure
on a guy, you know.
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- Look at the belts, baby.
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Luckily, I back it up.
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Always outdoing myself.
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Always getting better.
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- Oh, my God, there it is.
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- Ron Van Dam was an artist.
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I knew that if Rob Van Dam
was in the main event,
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the audience would go home
satisfied with the ECW product,
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and that our main event would be
different than anything else WWE
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or WCW could offer.
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[crowd cheers]
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[crowd chants "RVD"]
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- I was married since a couple
of years after I started ECW,
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and of course, that makes
it a lot more challenging
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to be on the road,
but I believed in loyalty.
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I believed in commitment
and it was important to me
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to see all that through.
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At the same time, this was a
very good part of my career.
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It was pretty apparent everybody
was watching our product.
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- Rob did have opportunity
to go other places.
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He could have went to WCW,
he could have went to WWE.
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- There was interest
in signing Rob.
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Rob had a very unique look,
a very unique style and was
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someone that we felt would
really fit on our roster.
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- I think it was assumed
that I was just gonna go
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'cause that's what you do.
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You go and get more exposure,
bigger crowds, bigger TV,
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bigger money,
but I really didn't want to.
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I felt like they-they could
erase my entire history of
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everything that I've done and
start me over as a new character
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because they did business
in that kind of way.
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- I wasn't afraid of losing Rob
to WWE or WCW because
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the constraints that they were
going to put on him betrayed
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an artist's sensibility.
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And as long as he had the
opportunity to be an artist,
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Rob Van Dam would stay with ECW.
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- This is my perfect showcasing,
this is where I wanna be.
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I don't wanna go somewhere else.
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I wanna bring all the eyes here
so everyone can see me being
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the whole effing show here
in ECW.
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[crowd cheers]
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- Rob Van Dam.
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[crowd cheers]
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- I can stay here the rest
of my career,
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but ECW is headed downhill.
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[crowd chants "ECW"]
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- I was the guy.
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I was the king at the time.
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Sitting in the throne.
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I am ECW.
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[crowd cheers]
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- Damn he's good.
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- But then checks
started bouncing.
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Paul didn't have the, uh, funds
to finance the company.
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- The last year of ECW was
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a brutal struggle to stay alive,
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so we all had a little bit
of time to prepare for the
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inevitable, but once you
hit that flatline,
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it's still shocking.
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[crowd cheers]
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- In April of 2001, ECW
officially declares bankruptcy.
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That was only a month after WWE
had officially acquired WCW.
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The Sports Entertainment
industry had gone from
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three major players
to just one.
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- When ECW went out of business,
it really gutted me,
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so ultimately, I knew that
if I wanted to be
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a TV wrestler in the United
States, that meant going to WWE.
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[crowd cheers]
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- Welcome, ladies and
gentlemen, to Monday Night Raw.
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- I actually came in
representing ECW
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which was great for me.
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00:20:11,510 --> 00:20:12,545
- Hey, wait a minute.
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What the hell?
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That's-
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[bell rings]
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00:20:17,383 --> 00:20:19,885
- That's Rob Van Dam
and Tommy Dreamer.
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00:20:19,952 --> 00:20:21,520
They're former ECW guys.
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00:20:21,587 --> 00:20:22,588
- Yes, they are.
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00:20:22,655 --> 00:20:24,356
- What the hell are they
doing here?
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- When WWE acquired ECW,
fans still wanted to see
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the battle play out, and Rob
Van Dam was brought in
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to fight for ECW's side.
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- It's a Five-Star Frog Splash
from Rob Van Dam.
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- The invaders are supposed
to be heels,
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00:20:43,209 --> 00:20:46,746
but he was the babyface within
the heel group who stood out.
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You kinda had to like that guy.
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- And here comes Rob Van Dam.
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This guy is the real deal.
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No doubt about it.
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- Jeff Hardy,
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steel chair in hand.
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And look at that.
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That's the Van Daminator.
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00:21:02,194 --> 00:21:04,430
- What made Rob cool
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is that he was cool without
trying to be cool.
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I remember they're doing this
thing where Austin's backstage
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and he says, "The next person
that comes through that door,
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I'm going to fight tonight."
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00:21:14,540 --> 00:21:18,911
- The first sumbitch walks
through that door,
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I am going to take to my ring
and I'm going to whip his ass.
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00:21:24,784 --> 00:21:26,685
- Everyone is-
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00:21:26,752 --> 00:21:28,387
-just wants RVD
to walk through the door.
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00:21:29,822 --> 00:21:31,023
- Oh.
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00:21:31,023 --> 00:21:31,924
Hey, Steve, what's up?
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00:21:31,991 --> 00:21:35,361
[crowd cheers]
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00:21:35,427 --> 00:21:40,199
- RVD with a suplex to Austin
on the steel ramp.
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00:21:40,733 --> 00:21:44,069
- And then you're seeing RVD mix
it up with top WWE stars that,
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as an ECW fan,
you would've never imagined.
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- Five-Star Frog Splash
to The Rock.
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- And Van Dam-
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My God, with a crossbody.
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00:21:54,780 --> 00:21:57,917
- I'm wrestling some of the top
stars there.
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00:21:58,017 --> 00:22:00,753
- Rob Van Dam has pinned
The Undertaker.
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- And I'm beating these guys.
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00:22:02,588 --> 00:22:07,226
- This is what happens when you
get hardcore with Rob Van Dam.
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00:22:07,860 --> 00:22:09,929
- Cool.
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00:22:09,995 --> 00:22:10,830
- Wait, wait.
401
00:22:10,896 --> 00:22:12,231
That's all you have to say,
is cool?
402
00:22:12,298 --> 00:22:13,499
Don't you understand this?
403
00:22:13,599 --> 00:22:14,700
This is pressure, man.
This is pressure.
404
00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:16,035
- Yeah.
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00:22:16,101 --> 00:22:22,274
Hey, everything is cool when
you're Rob Van Dam, you know?
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00:22:25,244 --> 00:22:29,248
- So, for the next few years,
when I'm out in the ring,
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I'm happy.
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00:22:30,516 --> 00:22:31,617
I'm doing my thing.
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00:22:31,717 --> 00:22:33,419
I'm connecting with the crowd.
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00:22:33,519 --> 00:22:36,222
[crowd yells "Rob Van Dam"]
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00:22:36,322 --> 00:22:39,258
- But at the same time,
it was a total different style,
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total different agenda.
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00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:43,229
Now, I'm not the whole
effing show.
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00:22:43,295 --> 00:22:45,231
I'm part of the show.
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00:22:45,297 --> 00:22:47,866
- In the early part
of his run here,
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00:22:47,933 --> 00:22:50,603
Rob was underappreciated
and underutilized.
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00:22:50,669 --> 00:22:54,773
It's not a proper assessment of
what Rob Van Dam had to offer.
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00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:58,711
- Every single step of the way
felt like a battle.
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00:22:58,711 --> 00:23:04,783
I'm fighting the conformity of
fittiing in pre-notioned ideas
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or prepackaged storylines.
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00:23:07,620 --> 00:23:12,758
I didn't want to change because
I really enjoyed what I was.
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00:23:12,825 --> 00:23:14,660
- He wasn't going
to compromise himself,
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00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,396
even if it meant advancement
in his career
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00:23:17,463 --> 00:23:19,398
and higher-profile matches.
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00:23:19,465 --> 00:23:22,835
He knew what he wanted to do
and what he wanted to be and he
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00:23:22,902 --> 00:23:25,971
wasn't going to be pushed into
being something that he wasn't.
427
00:23:26,038 --> 00:23:29,241
I think if he really, really
cared about pleasing certain
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people he would have changed,
and he never did.
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00:23:34,313 --> 00:23:36,282
- Sometimes wrestling
can be a little tricky.
430
00:23:38,384 --> 00:23:42,221
- During this time, I know he's
not as happy as he could be.
431
00:23:42,321 --> 00:23:47,559
It could have been backstage
politics that prevent you
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from reaching the apex
of your career.
433
00:23:51,797 --> 00:23:57,202
- I always felt like producers
never understood me.
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00:23:57,269 --> 00:23:59,905
Everybody wants to talk
in my ear and
435
00:24:00,005 --> 00:24:01,307
tell me something different.
436
00:24:01,407 --> 00:24:03,676
"The other people don't get you,
but I get you.
437
00:24:03,676 --> 00:24:04,543
You're a surfer, dude.
438
00:24:04,643 --> 00:24:06,145
Right?"
439
00:24:06,245 --> 00:24:09,348
Everyone's always trying
to fit me into a category.
440
00:24:09,448 --> 00:24:11,383
Why can I just be me?
441
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:18,457
I was longing for something,
feeling unfulfilled.
442
00:24:18,557 --> 00:24:24,263
And I ended up pitching
an idea to Vince McMahon.
443
00:24:24,330 --> 00:24:27,466
That idea would end up
changing everything.
444
00:24:35,407 --> 00:24:39,311
The fans that knew ECW
never let the spirit die.
445
00:24:39,378 --> 00:24:42,047
The fans would chant,
"ECW, ECW."
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00:24:42,114 --> 00:24:46,819
[crowd chants "ECW"]
447
00:24:46,919 --> 00:24:51,323
- And a lot of those fans did
that because they missed ECW.
448
00:24:51,390 --> 00:24:55,027
They preferred ECW and so did I.
449
00:24:55,027 --> 00:24:59,965
and I thought we could have
an ECW reunion, just one night,
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00:25:00,032 --> 00:25:03,002
all of us wrestling ECW style.
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00:25:03,068 --> 00:25:04,636
The wrestlers would love it.
452
00:25:04,636 --> 00:25:06,238
The fans would love it.
453
00:25:06,305 --> 00:25:10,175
And so I asked Vince McMahon,
"Why don't you do this?"
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00:25:10,242 --> 00:25:13,078
Instead of telling me no,
he loved the idea.
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00:25:13,946 --> 00:25:15,414
- Rob just kept telling Vince,
456
00:25:15,481 --> 00:25:18,283
"ECW. Bring back ECW,
it's still got legs.
457
00:25:18,350 --> 00:25:20,319
People will love it.
It will be successful."
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00:25:20,386 --> 00:25:21,353
And Rob was right.
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00:25:23,122 --> 00:25:24,923
[crowd chants "ECW."]
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00:25:24,990 --> 00:25:27,259
- ECW was all these people
standing right in front
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00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:31,030
of the arena from 8:30
in the morning till 8:30
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00:25:31,096 --> 00:25:33,565
at night just to get in there.
463
00:25:33,632 --> 00:25:34,566
- Hello, everyone.
464
00:25:34,633 --> 00:25:39,772
And welcome to ECW
One Night Stand.
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00:25:39,838 --> 00:25:41,240
[crowd chants "ECW"]
466
00:25:41,306 --> 00:25:46,478
- ECW One Night Stand
was a hell of a night.
467
00:25:46,912 --> 00:25:49,681
- Ay, Dios Mío!
468
00:25:50,849 --> 00:25:52,351
Air, Sabu.
469
00:25:53,252 --> 00:25:55,621
Tommy, no, no.
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00:25:56,155 --> 00:25:58,023
He's on fire.
471
00:26:00,692 --> 00:26:04,463
- Of course, I was extremely
disappointed that I had a torn
472
00:26:04,563 --> 00:26:08,100
ACL when it came time
to actually do the show.
473
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,804
[crowd chants "RVD"]
474
00:26:11,870 --> 00:26:15,007
- I don't have any creative
geniuses writing
475
00:26:15,074 --> 00:26:17,009
my script tonight, folks.
476
00:26:17,409 --> 00:26:23,482
And I'm gonna take you back to a
time before RVD's vocabulary
477
00:26:23,549 --> 00:26:26,752
was limited to,
"Whatever" and "Cool."
478
00:26:27,419 --> 00:26:30,622
That is how you showcase RVD.
479
00:26:30,722 --> 00:26:34,660
[crowd chants "RVD"]
480
00:26:36,028 --> 00:26:37,529
- Rob Van Dam made
that all possible.
481
00:26:37,596 --> 00:26:39,565
He made that possible
for the fans.
482
00:26:39,631 --> 00:26:41,967
He made that possible for me.
483
00:26:42,034 --> 00:26:46,004
And he gave opportunity to
a lot of guys who deserved it.
484
00:26:46,071 --> 00:26:47,706
[crowd chants "ECW"]
485
00:26:47,806 --> 00:26:49,241
- It was a perfect send-off.
486
00:26:51,477 --> 00:26:55,147
- The first ECW One Night Stand
was such a success,
487
00:26:55,247 --> 00:26:58,016
we're doing it again,
but this one leads
488
00:26:58,083 --> 00:27:02,221
into opening up ECW
as a third brand.
489
00:27:06,425 --> 00:27:10,996
- The first ECW One Night Stand
was a very special show,
490
00:27:11,797 --> 00:27:15,734
so doing it again was going
to feel exploitative.
491
00:27:15,801 --> 00:27:19,438
What could we offer that had
never been offered before?
492
00:27:21,140 --> 00:27:25,210
- RVD is in the main event
against John Cena.
493
00:27:25,277 --> 00:27:28,714
This is even bigger than
anything we did the year before.
494
00:27:28,780 --> 00:27:30,649
I'm wrestling for the
championship
495
00:27:30,716 --> 00:27:32,951
in the Hammerstein Ballroom.
496
00:27:33,018 --> 00:27:38,991
Six days, John, before that
title is the round my waist.
497
00:27:39,057 --> 00:27:41,026
[crowd cheers]
498
00:27:41,827 --> 00:27:43,028
- Me and my buddies watched
499
00:27:43,028 --> 00:27:45,564
the first One Night Stand, uh,
from home.
500
00:27:45,631 --> 00:27:46,899
We thought it was amazing.
501
00:27:46,999 --> 00:27:48,767
We were so into it, so when
they announced the second one,
502
00:27:48,834 --> 00:27:49,835
we were like, "We're going."
503
00:27:50,369 --> 00:27:54,106
Everybody in that arena
wants RVD to win the title.
504
00:27:54,206 --> 00:27:55,607
It was such a wild atmosphere.
505
00:27:55,674 --> 00:28:05,584
[Rob Van Dam's music plays]
506
00:28:05,651 --> 00:28:06,952
[crowd cheers]
507
00:28:07,019 --> 00:28:10,422
- It is a true injustice that
Rob Van Dam is perhaps
508
00:28:10,522 --> 00:28:15,460
the greatest wrestler never to
hold a World Championship.
509
00:28:16,795 --> 00:28:18,630
- I was in the Hammerstein
Ballroom.
510
00:28:18,697 --> 00:28:19,798
It was special.
511
00:28:19,865 --> 00:28:24,169
[crowd chants "RVD"]
512
00:28:24,236 --> 00:28:27,639
- They were not going
to let Rob Van Dam lose.
513
00:28:27,706 --> 00:28:30,275
If he loses, I really did think
there was going to be
514
00:28:30,275 --> 00:28:31,476
a riot that night.
515
00:28:31,543 --> 00:28:33,212
They hated him.
516
00:28:34,780 --> 00:28:37,716
- Everything about that night
was so exciting.
517
00:28:37,783 --> 00:28:41,587
Could have a 25-minute contest
with my t-shirt.
518
00:28:41,653 --> 00:28:43,222
That would've been amazing.
519
00:28:43,322 --> 00:28:46,425
- I don't think John Cena
understands these ECW fans
520
00:28:46,425 --> 00:28:49,861
want no part of him whatsoever
except maybe his head.
521
00:28:50,462 --> 00:28:53,098
- This is a way for them
in our house to show us
522
00:28:53,198 --> 00:28:55,400
that they are really the boss.
523
00:28:55,467 --> 00:28:56,835
It was so fun.
524
00:28:57,836 --> 00:28:59,404
- I don't think this one's
rocket science,
525
00:28:59,471 --> 00:29:02,708
Cena represented everything
that these fans disliked.
526
00:29:02,808 --> 00:29:06,878
and RVD was the legitimate
embodiment of everything
527
00:29:06,945 --> 00:29:08,413
they do like.
528
00:29:09,114 --> 00:29:10,415
[bell rings]
529
00:29:10,916 --> 00:29:13,585
- That night is completely
irreplaceable.
530
00:29:13,585 --> 00:29:15,787
That match was fantastic.
531
00:29:15,854 --> 00:29:22,828
[crowd cheers and boos]
532
00:29:22,894 --> 00:29:26,198
- Oh, down goes
the WWE Champion.
533
00:29:27,266 --> 00:29:31,270
[crowd yells "Rob Van Dam"]
534
00:29:31,370 --> 00:29:35,574
Rob Van Dam using
its entire body as a weapon.
535
00:29:35,641 --> 00:29:36,708
- John Cena was great.
536
00:29:36,808 --> 00:29:38,310
The crowd was great.
537
00:29:40,512 --> 00:29:41,413
- Van Dam fights out of it.
538
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:42,147
- Stay Up.
539
00:29:42,247 --> 00:29:43,348
- Oh.
540
00:29:43,448 --> 00:29:44,483
- It was awesome.
541
00:29:44,950 --> 00:29:46,518
I'm so glad I was able
to be a part of it.
542
00:29:47,519 --> 00:29:48,720
- Van Dam up top.
543
00:29:50,922 --> 00:29:54,826
Rob Van Dam with
the Five-Star Frog Splash.
544
00:29:57,963 --> 00:30:00,866
[crowd counts "one, two, three"]
545
00:30:00,932 --> 00:30:02,868
[crowd cheers]
546
00:30:02,968 --> 00:30:03,602
[bell rings]
547
00:30:03,669 --> 00:30:06,038
- Rob Van Dam is the new
548
00:30:06,104 --> 00:30:09,074
Heavyweight Champion
of the World.
549
00:30:10,142 --> 00:30:18,784
[crowd chants "ECW"]
550
00:30:18,784 --> 00:30:22,387
- When I won the championship
at the end of the night and that
551
00:30:22,454 --> 00:30:27,859
crowd erupted, that was a payoff
that I worked so hard for.
552
00:30:27,959 --> 00:30:31,963
You know, I blazed my own trail,
I followed my own path,
553
00:30:32,030 --> 00:30:36,268
even though a lot of people
wouldn't have and I ended up
554
00:30:36,368 --> 00:30:37,469
at the very top.
555
00:30:38,603 --> 00:30:40,105
- I was so happy for Rob.
556
00:30:40,205 --> 00:30:42,874
I was so happy for all
the ECW guys.
557
00:30:42,941 --> 00:30:44,843
It's not about winning
or losing.
558
00:30:44,910 --> 00:30:46,111
It's about the moments.
559
00:30:47,679 --> 00:30:50,882
- I am the World Champion.
560
00:30:50,949 --> 00:30:54,953
I did it by the way that fit me
and here I am.
561
00:30:57,723 --> 00:30:59,591
- Hello, everyone,
and welcome to the world
562
00:30:59,658 --> 00:31:03,729
premiere on ECW on Syfy.
563
00:31:03,795 --> 00:31:07,566
- Two days after I won the World
Championship, Paul Heyman
564
00:31:07,632 --> 00:31:11,203
presented me with
the ECW Championship.
565
00:31:13,305 --> 00:31:19,111
So now I had two title belts,
and everything was going great.
566
00:31:19,111 --> 00:31:22,280
My mind, body, and spirit
are aligned.
567
00:31:22,347 --> 00:31:26,518
I'm feeling like I'm at my best
in every which way,
568
00:31:28,053 --> 00:31:31,890
but the higher you are,
the further you have to fall.
569
00:31:32,691 --> 00:31:34,926
[sirens]
570
00:31:34,993 --> 00:31:36,561
- What's he doing?
571
00:31:36,628 --> 00:31:37,863
You're rolling pretty hard.
572
00:31:37,963 --> 00:31:38,864
What do you go by?
573
00:31:38,930 --> 00:31:40,632
- Rob Van Dam, RVD.
574
00:31:40,699 --> 00:31:42,134
- Can you explain to me why
your car smells like dope?
575
00:31:46,004 --> 00:31:47,205
[crowd chants "RVD"]
576
00:31:47,272 --> 00:31:53,211
- I bet it's about 4:20 right
now, I got some time to burn.
577
00:31:54,045 --> 00:32:00,018
In ECW, I started being known
for the cannabis community.
578
00:32:02,521 --> 00:32:06,324
I remember seeing a sign in
New York and I just connected
579
00:32:06,391 --> 00:32:09,127
with it and I loved the thought
580
00:32:09,194 --> 00:32:12,030
of them associating me
with that.
581
00:32:12,564 --> 00:32:17,235
A lot of the cannabis references
when it came to my character was
582
00:32:17,302 --> 00:32:21,506
like tongue-and-cheek
or if you get it you get it.
583
00:32:21,606 --> 00:32:24,876
They're all going to see their
favorite wrestler Rob Van Dam
584
00:32:24,943 --> 00:32:29,147
smoking Tazz's ass, and just
because this match means so much
585
00:32:29,247 --> 00:32:32,551
to me, Tazz, I plan on getting
in a couple of extra hits.
586
00:32:39,191 --> 00:32:44,629
When I was in WWE,
I used marijuana and I thought
587
00:32:44,696 --> 00:32:46,698
that it was okay.
588
00:32:46,798 --> 00:32:48,834
Dude, what have you been
smoking?
589
00:32:50,836 --> 00:32:54,439
You know, I never felt like I
was really doing anything wrong.
590
00:32:55,340 --> 00:32:58,610
I had that perspective like
these people are drinking,
591
00:32:58,677 --> 00:33:00,478
and alcohol is way worse.
592
00:33:00,545 --> 00:33:02,747
They're smoking cigarettes.
593
00:33:02,848 --> 00:33:05,350
What am I doing that's so wrong?
594
00:33:05,350 --> 00:33:07,619
And that's how I felt.
595
00:33:09,054 --> 00:33:14,059
Looking back, I think it's fair
to say I spent so much time
596
00:33:14,159 --> 00:33:18,230
trying to convince everybody
that marijuana was something
597
00:33:18,296 --> 00:33:22,834
that could be used responsibly
when at the same time
598
00:33:24,636 --> 00:33:26,638
I was pretty irresponsible.
599
00:33:28,607 --> 00:33:31,042
We were on our way to
Philadelphia
600
00:33:32,410 --> 00:33:34,746
and I see the Christmas lights
go up.
601
00:33:56,201 --> 00:33:59,871
- We have our bags,
suitcases on the ground open
602
00:33:59,938 --> 00:34:02,207
with our clothes,
the championship belt laying
603
00:34:02,274 --> 00:34:03,308
there in the grass.
604
00:34:03,408 --> 00:34:05,777
All these cars are driving by,
605
00:34:07,178 --> 00:34:09,681
it was a pretty
humbling experience.
606
00:34:10,916 --> 00:34:14,953
I was quite embarrassed by it,
by the whole thing.
607
00:34:15,820 --> 00:34:18,590
We weren't busted for driving
under the influence
608
00:34:18,657 --> 00:34:21,026
or driving and smoking.
609
00:34:21,092 --> 00:34:24,262
I got a ticket for possession
of marijuana and speeding.
610
00:34:24,362 --> 00:34:25,397
That's it.
611
00:34:26,298 --> 00:34:28,466
I've been busted
plenty of times before
612
00:34:28,533 --> 00:34:30,068
and it had never went anywhere.
613
00:34:30,769 --> 00:34:32,671
Just because I was World
Champion,
614
00:34:32,771 --> 00:34:34,572
that's what made it different.
615
00:34:35,106 --> 00:34:36,975
By the time we got to the arena,
616
00:34:38,043 --> 00:34:40,645
our bust was all over every
form of media.
617
00:34:41,513 --> 00:34:42,948
Everybody knew.
618
00:34:44,749 --> 00:34:46,251
Vince McMahon was upset.
619
00:34:50,789 --> 00:34:53,358
We had a little talk,
he said you're going to be
620
00:34:53,425 --> 00:34:54,993
suspended for 30 days.
621
00:34:56,227 --> 00:34:59,731
Tonight, you're going to lose
the WWE Championship.
622
00:34:59,798 --> 00:35:03,168
- Rob Van Dam has lost
the WWE title.
623
00:35:04,102 --> 00:35:05,737
- Ugh.
624
00:35:05,804 --> 00:35:08,640
Tomorrow night, you're going
to lose the ECW Championship.
625
00:35:10,408 --> 00:35:11,376
- Cover him.
626
00:35:13,044 --> 00:35:15,680
- I was so disappointed
in myself,
627
00:35:15,747 --> 00:35:17,048
broke my heart
628
00:35:18,049 --> 00:35:20,185
and the fans were so bummed.
629
00:35:20,185 --> 00:35:21,820
They booed.
630
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:25,323
- We've got near riot conditions
here in South Philly.
631
00:35:25,790 --> 00:35:28,960
- They all started throwing
their cups, and why?
632
00:35:29,027 --> 00:35:31,029
Because I'm the cause of it.
633
00:35:31,096 --> 00:35:32,197
So I had to eat that-
634
00:35:34,065 --> 00:35:36,868
-and wanted to find
a gutter to crawl into.
635
00:35:39,037 --> 00:35:43,708
- At the time, the legality
of it and the arrest is what
636
00:35:43,808 --> 00:35:45,010
really made it bad.
637
00:35:47,312 --> 00:35:51,216
- Representing the WWE,
we're riding on your back
638
00:35:51,282 --> 00:35:54,586
as World Champion, we have faith
in you and then that faith
639
00:35:54,652 --> 00:35:59,557
is shattered and it derailed
RVD's career and it could have
640
00:35:59,624 --> 00:36:02,994
derailed the WWE
as well at that time.
641
00:36:03,828 --> 00:36:08,867
- I think he probably could have
gone to the moon and back.
642
00:36:08,933 --> 00:36:12,003
If he didn't get arrested,
Vince has to take a step back,
643
00:36:12,070 --> 00:36:14,839
he has to reassess because
he has a brand
644
00:36:14,906 --> 00:36:16,207
to be concerned about.
645
00:36:23,882 --> 00:36:29,187
- Now looking back at it,
I can clearly see that it was
646
00:36:29,254 --> 00:36:33,324
a very risky move, having me
represent the whole company,
647
00:36:33,391 --> 00:36:36,127
because I was a little bit
of a wild card.
648
00:36:37,829 --> 00:36:41,599
Anybody that thought that going
with me might not be the right
649
00:36:41,666 --> 00:36:44,836
move, because I might blow it,
650
00:36:44,903 --> 00:36:46,404
well, I proved them all right.
651
00:36:48,706 --> 00:36:53,611
Once I came back from the 30-day
suspension, things had changed.
652
00:36:54,479 --> 00:36:58,016
I didn't have the inspiration
that I had.
653
00:36:58,583 --> 00:37:01,419
I was so burnt out from
all the non-stop
654
00:37:01,519 --> 00:37:02,921
traveling and wrestling.
655
00:37:04,556 --> 00:37:05,490
I was ready to go.
656
00:37:10,995 --> 00:37:16,835
My contract expired
with WWE in 2007.
657
00:37:16,835 --> 00:37:19,637
At the same time, I didn't care
if I ever wrestled again.
658
00:37:19,704 --> 00:37:24,008
That's how burnt out I was,
and I took some time away
659
00:37:24,075 --> 00:37:25,210
from the business.
660
00:37:25,944 --> 00:37:28,012
- Rob was tired of the grind.
661
00:37:28,079 --> 00:37:30,215
Rob was tired of people telling
him where to go,
662
00:37:30,281 --> 00:37:33,718
when to be there, and how to do
it, and needed a break.
663
00:37:34,552 --> 00:37:38,723
- It takes a lot to walk away,
and you know, it doesn't take
664
00:37:38,790 --> 00:37:41,025
a whole lot to stay,
and when someone does that,
665
00:37:41,126 --> 00:37:43,027
they're doing it for themselves.
666
00:37:43,027 --> 00:37:46,397
- I did a lot of meditating,
building up my relationship
667
00:37:46,464 --> 00:37:47,899
with the universe.
668
00:37:47,999 --> 00:37:54,172
I opened up like a new part of
me, a new Zen ninja RVD spirit
669
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:58,776
became my priority,
and that started a whole new era
670
00:37:58,843 --> 00:38:03,548
of post-WWE wrestling where
I wasn't priced to work every
671
00:38:03,648 --> 00:38:06,284
single weekend 'cause
that's not what I wanted.
672
00:38:06,351 --> 00:38:10,355
So when it got to the business
end, everything was great.
673
00:38:10,421 --> 00:38:14,826
However, at the same time, my
marriage was going downhill.
674
00:38:16,628 --> 00:38:21,299
At the end of 2015,
we were officially separated.
675
00:38:21,399 --> 00:38:24,769
And now I got this big
cold empty house
676
00:38:24,836 --> 00:38:26,671
then I got very depressed.
677
00:38:26,771 --> 00:38:30,441
And I had this little dog and
that dog was my source
678
00:38:30,508 --> 00:38:33,578
of happiness and of positive
energy and of love.
679
00:38:33,645 --> 00:38:37,348
And when the dog died, you know,
I was completely lost.
680
00:38:37,448 --> 00:38:40,919
And then my dad was getting
sick and I told myself,
681
00:38:40,985 --> 00:38:42,554
"What if this happens?
682
00:38:42,620 --> 00:38:43,955
Now what are you going to do?"
683
00:38:44,022 --> 00:38:45,723
And, you know, that happened.
684
00:38:47,192 --> 00:38:52,230
- He was pretty close with Dad
and then for Dad to just go,
685
00:38:52,297 --> 00:38:55,033
it was very hard for him.
686
00:38:55,099 --> 00:38:58,536
- I hadn't really felt that kind
of pain before.
687
00:38:58,603 --> 00:39:01,673
I knew I'm always going to be
RVD, I'm always going to be able
688
00:39:01,739 --> 00:39:03,608
to go anywhere and find love.
689
00:39:03,675 --> 00:39:05,777
People love me,
but it didn't matter-
690
00:39:08,246 --> 00:39:09,514
-when you're just like,
691
00:39:09,581 --> 00:39:12,550
surrounded with darkness,
none of that matters.
692
00:39:12,617 --> 00:39:16,588
So I got to go through that and
feel that, and moving forward,
693
00:39:16,654 --> 00:39:20,024
I rebuilt myself and that gave
me a new purpose.
694
00:39:21,759 --> 00:39:25,830
I met Katie towards the end
of my rock bottom.
695
00:39:25,830 --> 00:39:29,267
And you know, at first,
I felt like she should run
696
00:39:29,334 --> 00:39:31,569
'cause of the place
that I was in.
697
00:39:31,636 --> 00:39:34,239
You know, a lot of times they
say it's one day at a time,
698
00:39:34,305 --> 00:39:36,708
but I was at a point where
I couldn't imagine getting
699
00:39:36,808 --> 00:39:40,111
to the end of the day and
someone very wise said to me,
700
00:39:40,211 --> 00:39:42,313
"Well, sometimes
it's one moment at a time."
701
00:39:42,380 --> 00:39:45,750
And that's what helped me
because being with Katie has
702
00:39:45,750 --> 00:39:48,720
been one happy moment
that I just decided
703
00:39:48,786 --> 00:39:50,755
to throw myself completely into.
704
00:39:51,623 --> 00:39:53,224
- He was coming out of a dark
time in his life,
705
00:39:53,324 --> 00:39:55,827
so he wasn't looking for love
at that time,
706
00:39:55,894 --> 00:39:59,197
but I could just feel that
it was there and meant to be.
707
00:40:00,598 --> 00:40:06,070
- Rob Van Dam is headed
to the WWE Hall of Fame.
708
00:40:06,170 --> 00:40:09,474
- Please welcome Rob Van Dam.
709
00:40:09,474 --> 00:40:10,975
[crowd cheering]
710
00:40:11,042 --> 00:40:14,679
[Rob Van Dam's music plays]
711
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:19,017
- Every step of the way
I had so many people trying
712
00:40:19,117 --> 00:40:21,486
to change me because
I was different,
713
00:40:21,552 --> 00:40:23,922
but you understood me.
714
00:40:25,256 --> 00:40:29,327
When I get up on the top rope
and I look out to the crowd,
715
00:40:29,394 --> 00:40:31,362
I don't know of a better high.
716
00:40:32,230 --> 00:40:36,234
It seems like I would know,
so thank you.
717
00:40:36,868 --> 00:40:40,138
A lot of people feel like I was
kicked out of the WWE,
718
00:40:40,204 --> 00:40:44,409
like I was unaccepted,
but I'm now up there with
719
00:40:44,475 --> 00:40:47,078
the legends that
I used to watch,
720
00:40:47,078 --> 00:40:49,314
that inspired me to
follow my dreams.
721
00:40:53,518 --> 00:40:54,485
- For better or worse?
722
00:40:54,552 --> 00:40:55,954
- No, in the best way.
723
00:40:56,020 --> 00:40:56,921
- Oh, thank you.
724
00:40:56,988 --> 00:40:57,956
- Yes, it's really cool.
725
00:40:59,157 --> 00:40:59,791
- Yes.
726
00:40:59,857 --> 00:41:00,825
Absolutely.
727
00:41:00,925 --> 00:41:02,827
- Awesome.
728
00:41:02,827 --> 00:41:05,630
- Do I have the drive that
I used to have to prove
729
00:41:05,697 --> 00:41:08,399
to everybody that
I'm the best in the world?
730
00:41:08,466 --> 00:41:09,467
No.
731
00:41:09,534 --> 00:41:12,837
But where I'm at right now,
I'm fulfilled.
732
00:41:12,837 --> 00:41:16,074
[crowd yells "Rob Van Dam"]
733
00:41:16,074 --> 00:41:17,842
- From the top to the floor.
734
00:41:17,909 --> 00:41:20,278
- When you ask people some
of the most exciting talent
735
00:41:20,345 --> 00:41:24,515
of all times, Rob Van Dam is in
that argument every single time.
736
00:41:24,582 --> 00:41:27,685
- Rob Van Dam
is an amazing human being.
737
00:41:27,752 --> 00:41:31,389
- To ECW fans,
he was our Hulk Hogan.
738
00:41:31,456 --> 00:41:33,024
He was our Ric Flair.
739
00:41:33,124 --> 00:41:35,059
- Is he thinking about
going coast-to-coast?
740
00:41:35,159 --> 00:41:37,028
- Those matches became
a blueprint actually for
741
00:41:37,028 --> 00:41:39,964
the independent style that
morphed eventually into even
742
00:41:40,031 --> 00:41:42,033
what you're seeing
in WWE nowadays.
743
00:41:42,100 --> 00:41:43,234
- Oh, my goodness.
744
00:41:43,234 --> 00:41:44,736
What a collision.
745
00:41:44,802 --> 00:41:47,839
- As he grew physically
in his style, it all grew.
746
00:41:47,839 --> 00:41:50,174
And the person on the inside
started coming out,
747
00:41:50,241 --> 00:41:52,076
and the person on the inside is
a wonderful, wonderful human
748
00:41:52,143 --> 00:41:54,812
being who loves to have fun
and he's just-
749
00:41:54,879 --> 00:41:57,081
you know, you want to wrap
your arms around him.
750
00:41:57,782 --> 00:42:01,719
- Rob Van Dam, the whole damn
show is here.
751
00:42:01,786 --> 00:42:03,121
[crowd chants "RVD"]
752
00:42:03,187 --> 00:42:05,089
- I think the way that
I've gone through life
753
00:42:05,156 --> 00:42:07,358
kind of following own path,
754
00:42:08,826 --> 00:42:12,864
has just been the only way that
I could have lived my life.
755
00:42:12,964 --> 00:42:14,632
[crowd yells "Rob Van Dam"]
756
00:42:14,699 --> 00:42:18,269
- It's not about trying to be
different, it's about not
757
00:42:18,369 --> 00:42:20,538
bothering to try to be like
everybody else.
758
00:42:20,588 --> 00:42:25,138
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