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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:10,077 --> 00:00:13,480 - "Stone Cold" Steve Austin is the most popular superstar 2 00:00:13,547 --> 00:00:15,516 in WWE history. 3 00:00:17,017 --> 00:00:19,820 - Austin 3:16 says I just whipped your ass. 4 00:00:21,421 --> 00:00:26,627 - He was a beer-drinking, middle finger flipping, 5 00:00:26,627 --> 00:00:28,428 anti-authority figure. 6 00:00:29,530 --> 00:00:34,067 And he represented the "common man." 7 00:00:34,134 --> 00:00:36,470 And he did a lot of the things that we all want to do, 8 00:00:36,470 --> 00:00:40,540 which is rebel against your boss, blaze your own trail, 9 00:00:40,674 --> 00:00:43,277 have fun doing what you're doing workwise. 10 00:00:44,978 --> 00:00:48,081 He became so famous that he was able to glue 11 00:00:48,148 --> 00:00:50,951 the WWE and pop culture together, 12 00:00:51,018 --> 00:00:53,787 and they've been glued together ever since. 13 00:00:54,621 --> 00:00:55,756 [crowd cheering] 14 00:00:55,822 --> 00:00:58,625 - The Austin Era has begun. 15 00:00:58,625 --> 00:01:02,262 - His sticking power is unlike anything because decades 16 00:01:02,329 --> 00:01:04,665 after his wrestling career, he still has 17 00:01:04,665 --> 00:01:07,834 one of the highest selling shirts in the WWE. 18 00:01:09,736 --> 00:01:13,674 The closer he got to his true self, the more success he had. 19 00:01:13,674 --> 00:01:16,310 And I think that resonated with people because he was being 20 00:01:16,376 --> 00:01:18,111 genuine and being real and being himself. 21 00:01:19,313 --> 00:01:22,549 And that's why we started the biography with the question, 22 00:01:22,549 --> 00:01:25,586 what's the difference between his character and himself? 23 00:01:25,586 --> 00:01:28,188 And I think, as you'll see, he had a-a hard time answering that 24 00:01:28,255 --> 00:01:30,223 because he was just being himself. 25 00:01:31,892 --> 00:01:34,061 - I don't even know what the difference is really. 26 00:01:34,127 --> 00:01:37,264 - This is the Director's Cut A&E Biography, 27 00:01:37,264 --> 00:01:40,233 WWE Legends on "Stone Cold" Steve Austin. 28 00:01:43,537 --> 00:01:44,271 - We cool? 29 00:01:44,271 --> 00:01:45,439 Okay, good. 30 00:01:45,505 --> 00:01:46,907 Um, who is Steve Austin the man 31 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:51,345 and who is Stone Cold Steve Austin the performer? 32 00:01:51,478 --> 00:01:53,146 - The difference between "Stone Cold" Steve Austin the man 33 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:55,682 and "Stone Cold" Steve Austin the performer is, basically, 34 00:01:55,749 --> 00:01:58,385 "Stone Cold" Steve Austin is exactly that. 35 00:01:58,452 --> 00:01:59,753 Uh- 36 00:02:01,288 --> 00:02:02,422 I don't even know what the difference is really. 37 00:02:03,857 --> 00:02:13,834 ♪ 38 00:02:18,472 --> 00:02:21,942 - Steve Austin is one of the biggest superstars 39 00:02:22,075 --> 00:02:24,311 in the history of the wrestling business 40 00:02:24,311 --> 00:02:27,314 because of his passion for it. 41 00:02:30,584 --> 00:02:35,822 [crowd cheering] 42 00:02:35,822 --> 00:02:43,196 - He had this meteoric rise that burnt hot and fast 43 00:02:43,263 --> 00:02:45,198 and changed an entire industry. 44 00:02:46,133 --> 00:02:50,670 - Talk about your Psalms, talk about John 3:16. 45 00:02:50,670 --> 00:02:54,307 Austin 3:16 says I just whipped your ass. 46 00:02:55,709 --> 00:03:00,080 I think the separation between "Stone Cold" and Steve Austin 47 00:03:00,147 --> 00:03:04,384 is only a matter of the surrounding that I'm in. 48 00:03:06,420 --> 00:03:08,789 - The character was a real person. 49 00:03:09,623 --> 00:03:12,626 The look in his eyes told a real story. 50 00:03:12,626 --> 00:03:14,094 And you know why? 51 00:03:14,227 --> 00:03:15,228 Because it was a real story. 52 00:03:16,730 --> 00:03:18,799 - He went from being a guy from Texas 53 00:03:18,865 --> 00:03:21,635 to a pro wrestler to a pop culture icon. 54 00:03:22,536 --> 00:03:26,706 - He was the defining character of a generation. 55 00:03:27,474 --> 00:03:30,043 The disruptor of the status quo. 56 00:03:30,110 --> 00:03:34,047 The pivotal player in the complete re-imagination 57 00:03:34,114 --> 00:03:35,082 of the industry. 58 00:03:36,750 --> 00:03:40,520 - I've been retired for so long, I don't miss it anymore. 59 00:03:40,587 --> 00:03:41,988 I don't crave it. 60 00:03:42,055 --> 00:03:43,590 You can never replace it. 61 00:03:43,657 --> 00:03:46,760 I'm not trying to say that you can, but I wouldn't say there's 62 00:03:46,827 --> 00:03:51,031 anything about the life I used to live on the road that makes 63 00:03:51,098 --> 00:03:54,468 me yearn to go back in time and relive those days. 64 00:03:54,468 --> 00:03:58,071 But I do what I want when I want right here in this damn ring 65 00:03:58,071 --> 00:04:00,907 and can't nobody stop me. 66 00:04:00,974 --> 00:04:06,113 The whole world knows my name is "Stone Cold" Steve Austin. 67 00:04:06,113 --> 00:04:10,150 If I'm going straight to hell, you're damn sure coming with me. 68 00:04:12,419 --> 00:04:15,422 - "Stone Cold" Steven Austin, his reign on top 69 00:04:15,489 --> 00:04:18,358 was second to none. 70 00:04:18,425 --> 00:04:20,994 - Steve Austin changed the way the game was played. 71 00:04:21,061 --> 00:04:24,397 There will never ever be anyone like him. 72 00:04:24,464 --> 00:04:29,836 - He's the man responsible for making WWE more than we thought 73 00:04:29,903 --> 00:04:32,305 it could ever be. 74 00:04:32,439 --> 00:04:34,508 - People gravitated a lot to the energy 75 00:04:34,508 --> 00:04:37,077 that I brought to the business. 76 00:04:37,144 --> 00:04:44,351 [crowd cheering] 77 00:04:46,786 --> 00:04:49,756 - Steve didn't have a long career being on top, 78 00:04:49,823 --> 00:04:52,826 but he had that one peak that like, wow. 79 00:04:52,893 --> 00:04:55,195 No one can come close to that. 80 00:04:55,262 --> 00:04:56,997 - Stone Cold is a showbiz guy. 81 00:04:57,063 --> 00:04:58,798 Steve Austin is a regular guy. 82 00:04:58,865 --> 00:05:01,001 They just happened to be rolled up in the same package. 83 00:05:18,985 --> 00:05:21,454 - I was born in Austin, Texas, but we didn't stay there long. 84 00:05:21,588 --> 00:05:24,424 I grew up in a little town called Edna. 85 00:05:25,592 --> 00:05:29,830 I'm proud to be from Texas, you know, born, bred, raised. 86 00:05:31,264 --> 00:05:34,034 You know, it's tough, it's cowboy country, 87 00:05:34,100 --> 00:05:36,469 and it's-it's rugged. 88 00:05:36,469 --> 00:05:39,606 I think the reputation of Texas kind of precedes you 89 00:05:39,673 --> 00:05:41,107 and the fact that you're from that state. 90 00:05:42,108 --> 00:05:44,110 - You know, it's not a one-stoplight town, 91 00:05:44,110 --> 00:05:46,346 but we just have a few stoplights. 92 00:05:46,479 --> 00:05:48,582 And it's a town where everybody knows everybody. 93 00:05:48,715 --> 00:05:50,750 We had a huge house, our yellow house. 94 00:05:50,817 --> 00:05:53,220 It was on half of an acre. 95 00:05:54,254 --> 00:05:57,023 It was great growing up in a big family. 96 00:05:58,291 --> 00:06:03,697 Scott's the oldest then Steve then Kevin, Jeff and then me. 97 00:06:04,731 --> 00:06:07,667 As a kid, Steve was very shy. 98 00:06:07,734 --> 00:06:10,070 Yeah, yeah, he was shy. 99 00:06:10,070 --> 00:06:11,671 - Oh, just shy enough that when-when we called down to 100 00:06:11,738 --> 00:06:15,242 Dairy Queen to o-order, you know, three tacos or whatever, 101 00:06:15,308 --> 00:06:16,876 you know, hell, I put my sister on the phone. 102 00:06:16,943 --> 00:06:18,745 "Jenny, can you order my food for me?" 103 00:06:19,512 --> 00:06:22,148 - So, he's seven years older than me and he would literally 104 00:06:22,148 --> 00:06:24,384 call me into the kitchen and hand me the phone to Dairy Queen 105 00:06:24,451 --> 00:06:26,786 and have me read off his order. 106 00:06:26,786 --> 00:06:28,622 - I broke out of that shyness 107 00:06:28,622 --> 00:06:32,425 when I found football in junior high. 108 00:06:32,425 --> 00:06:35,595 I used athletics to help me find confidence. 109 00:06:36,062 --> 00:06:38,598 - I noticed him when he was in junior high. 110 00:06:38,665 --> 00:06:40,600 I was the high school coach. 111 00:06:40,667 --> 00:06:43,036 He was a physical specimen, I guess you'd say. 112 00:06:44,671 --> 00:06:47,507 - When he started seventh-grade football, that's-- As far as 113 00:06:47,641 --> 00:06:49,709 long as I can remember, that's all he wanted to do was 114 00:06:49,709 --> 00:06:54,047 work out, eat right, and just build his body. 115 00:06:54,114 --> 00:06:57,183 - We're eating Little Debbie's and Captain Crunch cereal. 116 00:06:57,183 --> 00:06:59,352 And he's over there with the Blender with this protein stuff 117 00:06:59,419 --> 00:07:01,021 and putting raw eggs in it. 118 00:07:01,021 --> 00:07:01,821 And I'm thinking, "What? 119 00:07:01,888 --> 00:07:02,789 Who does this?" 120 00:07:02,856 --> 00:07:03,423 You know? 121 00:07:03,490 --> 00:07:05,859 He does. 122 00:07:05,992 --> 00:07:08,395 - I was a running back, and I wasn't very fast. 123 00:07:08,461 --> 00:07:10,597 But I weighed about 205 pounds. 124 00:07:10,664 --> 00:07:13,400 And my line averaged about 165 pounds, so I didn't have a whole 125 00:07:13,466 --> 00:07:17,203 lot of blocking and I ran north and south because I wasn't fast 126 00:07:17,270 --> 00:07:20,640 enough to run east and west and I ran over people. 127 00:07:21,942 --> 00:07:24,244 - Straight-A student, National Honor Society. 128 00:07:24,311 --> 00:07:25,845 Steve never drank beer or raised hell 129 00:07:25,912 --> 00:07:27,747 during high school like I did. 130 00:07:27,814 --> 00:07:30,950 So, every weekend, all my buddies would come over. 131 00:07:31,017 --> 00:07:33,586 We're sitting on the back patio, drinking beer, raising hell, 132 00:07:33,653 --> 00:07:35,221 having a good time. 133 00:07:35,288 --> 00:07:37,223 And Steve would open up his bedroom window. 134 00:07:37,290 --> 00:07:38,224 "Y'all shut the hell up. 135 00:07:38,291 --> 00:07:39,793 I'm trying to sleep." 136 00:07:42,462 --> 00:07:45,098 - He was popular, but he just had such bigger dreams 137 00:07:45,231 --> 00:07:47,667 and goals for himself. 138 00:07:47,667 --> 00:07:49,202 - He used to actually practice signing autographs 139 00:07:49,269 --> 00:07:50,470 back in the day. 140 00:07:50,537 --> 00:07:51,871 We'd be in the kitchen 141 00:07:51,871 --> 00:07:53,206 and he'd just be writing his name different ways. 142 00:07:53,273 --> 00:07:55,041 Trying to check out which-- what fit best. 143 00:07:55,108 --> 00:07:56,309 He asked my opinion. 144 00:07:56,309 --> 00:07:58,144 "What the-- What are you talking about, man?" 145 00:07:58,278 --> 00:07:58,912 [chuckles] 146 00:07:58,978 --> 00:08:00,046 Yeah. 147 00:08:00,113 --> 00:08:01,181 - At first, you know, I wanted to be a rock star. 148 00:08:01,314 --> 00:08:02,482 But I can't sing, play any instrument-- musical instruments 149 00:08:02,549 --> 00:08:03,984 so that's out the door. 150 00:08:03,984 --> 00:08:06,786 - Channel 39 presents Houston Wrestling. 151 00:08:06,853 --> 00:08:09,622 - One day, my mom was in her chair 152 00:08:09,689 --> 00:08:11,424 reading her Redbook magazine 153 00:08:11,491 --> 00:08:14,461 and I was flipping channels and I came across pro wrestling. 154 00:08:14,461 --> 00:08:16,062 It was Houston Wrestling. 155 00:08:16,062 --> 00:08:19,265 For some reason, the lighting, the smoke-filled arena, 156 00:08:19,332 --> 00:08:21,434 the rope banister around the ring. 157 00:08:21,501 --> 00:08:24,037 Uh, one of the guys is just bleeding like a stuffed pig 158 00:08:24,104 --> 00:08:25,839 in the ring and it just resonated with me. 159 00:08:25,905 --> 00:08:28,074 I was like, "Holy cow." 160 00:08:28,141 --> 00:08:30,477 I fell in love with it that-that day. 161 00:08:30,543 --> 00:08:32,312 - Growin' up, we only got three channels here 162 00:08:32,312 --> 00:08:34,514 and the Houston Wrestling was on every Sunday. 163 00:08:34,581 --> 00:08:37,083 And Steve always watched it. 164 00:08:37,183 --> 00:08:39,919 If I wanted to anything else, he says, "Man, you can have TV 165 00:08:39,986 --> 00:08:41,354 after wrestling's over with. 166 00:08:41,421 --> 00:08:45,024 - And apparently, yeah, he told I guess friends and-and 167 00:08:45,024 --> 00:08:47,761 my brothers that uh, he was gonna be a wrestler one day. 168 00:08:47,827 --> 00:08:50,263 He said those words. 169 00:08:50,263 --> 00:08:52,432 - Well I'll be doggone. 170 00:08:53,700 --> 00:08:55,301 - You know, coming from a small town, 171 00:08:55,435 --> 00:08:57,837 you don't really get noticed. 172 00:08:57,904 --> 00:09:00,106 Um, you have to put in a whole lot of work and you gotta kind 173 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:04,077 of get yourself out there and he was able to do it. 174 00:09:04,911 --> 00:09:06,279 - Coming out of high school, 175 00:09:06,346 --> 00:09:08,148 I went to Wharton County Junior College 176 00:09:08,148 --> 00:09:12,952 and they offered me a full ride to North Texas State University. 177 00:09:15,422 --> 00:09:18,792 And football at that level was more serious. 178 00:09:19,392 --> 00:09:20,994 - This is the young man we talked about-- 179 00:09:21,060 --> 00:09:22,462 - He was a real good player. 180 00:09:22,462 --> 00:09:24,898 - Yes, real good play by Steve. 181 00:09:25,031 --> 00:09:27,901 He's played very well, gotten better every game. 182 00:09:27,901 --> 00:09:31,037 - I really didn't enjoy the process anymore 183 00:09:31,104 --> 00:09:33,206 as far as the education process goes. 184 00:09:33,273 --> 00:09:36,309 I had had an absolute gutful of doing research papers. 185 00:09:36,309 --> 00:09:39,512 Alegebra number 2 and Calculus were kicking my ass. 186 00:09:39,512 --> 00:09:41,748 It just wasn't my cup of tea. 187 00:09:41,748 --> 00:09:44,717 I was through in college and I wanted to drop out so I did. 188 00:09:45,985 --> 00:09:48,188 Oh, we had a connection from the athletic department at 189 00:09:48,254 --> 00:09:50,623 North Texas to the Watkins Motor Lines. 190 00:09:50,623 --> 00:09:53,760 With 17 hours to go, I just said, "Man, I'm outta here. 191 00:09:53,827 --> 00:09:57,096 Let me go work on a freight dock and make that $400 a week." 192 00:09:57,230 --> 00:09:58,465 I love driving a forklift. 193 00:09:58,465 --> 00:10:01,000 I could pull your tooth with a forklift. 194 00:10:01,668 --> 00:10:03,102 At Watkins Motor Lines, we were 30 miles 195 00:10:03,236 --> 00:10:06,673 from the Sportatorium in Dallas. 196 00:10:06,673 --> 00:10:08,942 So me and my buddies would ride down there and we would 197 00:10:09,075 --> 00:10:12,112 drink beer and throw stuff at the wrestlers and raise hell. 198 00:10:15,014 --> 00:10:17,951 Man, the Sportatorium is the greatest building in the world, 199 00:10:18,017 --> 00:10:20,153 atmosphere personified. 200 00:10:20,653 --> 00:10:22,956 And then I'll never forget, man, we were out there me 201 00:10:23,022 --> 00:10:25,391 and my buddy Ralph and he's giving me the elbow he goes, 202 00:10:25,458 --> 00:10:27,827 "Man, you're as big as him because you gotta get in this. 203 00:10:27,894 --> 00:10:29,229 Man, you oughta be a wrestler." 204 00:10:29,295 --> 00:10:31,598 I said, "I'mma do it, I'mma do it, I'mma do it." 205 00:10:31,664 --> 00:10:33,199 And so I'd-I'd wanted to for a long time. 206 00:10:33,266 --> 00:10:35,301 and I'll be damned if I didn't go home, man, a couple of days 207 00:10:35,435 --> 00:10:37,871 later and I was changing channels and there was that 208 00:10:37,871 --> 00:10:40,874 commercial that Chris Adams put on for his wrestling academy, 209 00:10:40,874 --> 00:10:42,675 and I said, "That's it. 210 00:10:42,742 --> 00:10:44,344 That's-that's my- that's my way in." 211 00:10:45,512 --> 00:10:48,148 - Hello everybody, this is "Gentleman" Chris Adams here 212 00:10:48,148 --> 00:10:51,584 bringing you exciting news about our May three-day 213 00:10:51,584 --> 00:10:52,986 pro wrestling camp. 214 00:10:53,052 --> 00:10:56,656 You'll spend three full days working out in the same ring 215 00:10:56,789 --> 00:11:00,960 that you see on your TV here at the world famous Sportatorium. 216 00:11:01,327 --> 00:11:03,863 - The one thing that surprised me when I showed up that first 217 00:11:03,863 --> 00:11:07,467 day, I just thought there was gonna be a bunch of monsters in 218 00:11:07,467 --> 00:11:10,703 there that looked like me, killers that wanted to get into 219 00:11:10,837 --> 00:11:12,906 the business of pro wrestling but they were just regular 220 00:11:13,039 --> 00:11:14,107 people off the street. 221 00:11:14,707 --> 00:11:19,112 - I don't know if I met Steve as much as I saw Steve. 222 00:11:19,112 --> 00:11:22,982 I was, uh, injured during match so I went up in what's known as 223 00:11:23,116 --> 00:11:26,719 the crow's nest where family and friends could watch the matches, 224 00:11:26,786 --> 00:11:29,822 and that happened to be the first lesson that 225 00:11:29,822 --> 00:11:32,258 "Gentleman" Chris Adams was giving 226 00:11:32,392 --> 00:11:34,227 for his new wrestling school. 227 00:11:34,294 --> 00:11:38,665 And me and a couple of guys were laughing about how bad all 228 00:11:38,731 --> 00:11:42,268 of the trainees were, all of them except this one guy with 229 00:11:42,335 --> 00:11:47,674 long blond hair and definite gift of athleticism. 230 00:11:47,674 --> 00:11:51,110 And it was clear that he had it whatever it is, 231 00:11:51,110 --> 00:11:52,478 he had it right away. 232 00:11:56,983 --> 00:11:58,351 - By the time he started wrestling, 233 00:11:58,418 --> 00:12:00,520 it was mid to late 1989. 234 00:12:00,587 --> 00:12:02,755 Austin started wrestling for the USWA 235 00:12:02,822 --> 00:12:04,857 which was the United States Wrestling Association. 236 00:12:04,991 --> 00:12:08,061 So he was wrestling in Memphis and in Texas and all points 237 00:12:08,127 --> 00:12:10,897 in between that the USWA was running. 238 00:12:11,030 --> 00:12:13,600 - I rolled into Nashville and I needed a place to live. 239 00:12:13,666 --> 00:12:16,069 I didn't know where to go and they said, "Hey man, you know 240 00:12:16,069 --> 00:12:17,837 try the Congress Inn out on Dickerson Pike." 241 00:12:19,872 --> 00:12:23,910 So I rolled in there and uh checked in, and man, 242 00:12:23,910 --> 00:12:25,311 I didn't have no money. 243 00:12:25,378 --> 00:12:27,547 So every week or when-whenever I had enough money, 244 00:12:27,680 --> 00:12:29,716 I would pay my rent. 245 00:12:31,784 --> 00:12:35,054 Times were really, really lean and I didn't have a hotplate, 246 00:12:35,188 --> 00:12:37,023 I didn't have a microwave. 247 00:12:37,023 --> 00:12:39,225 And I remember I went to the grocery store, 248 00:12:39,292 --> 00:12:40,660 I bought tuna fish cans, 249 00:12:40,793 --> 00:12:43,429 I bought some potatoes and for breakfast lunch 250 00:12:43,496 --> 00:12:46,866 and dinner I'd eat tuna fish and potato. 251 00:12:46,866 --> 00:12:50,503 And after a few days I ran out of tuna fish, so for breakfast, 252 00:12:50,637 --> 00:12:54,507 lunch and dinner, I'd peel a raw potato and eat that. 253 00:12:54,641 --> 00:12:57,143 A lot of guys ended up living with dancers and a lot of guys 254 00:12:57,276 --> 00:12:59,846 knew where all the buffets were, all of the-- you know, any kind 255 00:12:59,912 --> 00:13:03,683 of all you can eat thing, they knew where they were. 256 00:13:03,750 --> 00:13:06,786 - You had to figure out a way to survive back then. 257 00:13:06,786 --> 00:13:09,188 There was a time period there where I actually the-- I spent 258 00:13:09,255 --> 00:13:10,823 nights in my car. 259 00:13:10,823 --> 00:13:17,997 I think I made $11,000 in a year and put 10,000 miles on my car. 260 00:13:18,431 --> 00:13:21,601 - You were barely getting by, and so you're paying your dues, 261 00:13:21,668 --> 00:13:25,905 traveling 400 miles to make $10. 262 00:13:26,039 --> 00:13:28,508 - I'm making 15 and $20 you know a night, making 400-mile 263 00:13:28,508 --> 00:13:30,910 roundtrips, you can't afford to eat. 264 00:13:30,977 --> 00:13:33,646 I remember calling my mom or she called me and asked me how I was 265 00:13:33,713 --> 00:13:37,350 doing, and I said "Mom" I said, "is there any way for my 266 00:13:37,350 --> 00:13:40,153 birthday this year could you just send me $40?" 267 00:13:40,219 --> 00:13:42,555 And it's the only time I ever asked my parents for money, 268 00:13:42,622 --> 00:13:44,424 and sure enough a couple of days later my mom sent me two 269 00:13:44,424 --> 00:13:47,460 $20 bills and it meant the world to me 270 00:13:47,593 --> 00:13:49,862 because I could afford to get something to eat again. 271 00:13:49,929 --> 00:13:52,298 That's part of paying your dues, and I just figured, you know, 272 00:13:52,432 --> 00:13:54,600 you know, starving or doing whatever it takes 273 00:13:54,667 --> 00:13:57,270 because I didn't have a plan B. 274 00:13:57,336 --> 00:14:00,273 I wanted to be a pro wrestler so if this is what it takes to be 275 00:14:00,273 --> 00:14:01,307 one this is what I'm gonna do. 276 00:14:05,745 --> 00:14:08,314 I showed up to my first match in Memphis 277 00:14:08,381 --> 00:14:10,717 and Dutch Mantell was the booker. 278 00:14:10,783 --> 00:14:12,218 I go and introduce myself to Dutch Mantell. 279 00:14:12,218 --> 00:14:13,386 I said "Hey, man, I'm Steve Williams. 280 00:14:13,453 --> 00:14:15,855 I'm here to wrestle." 281 00:14:15,988 --> 00:14:18,024 He goes, "Your name's Steve Williams?" 282 00:14:18,024 --> 00:14:20,026 He goes, "You can't be that here because there's already 283 00:14:20,026 --> 00:14:21,127 a "Dr. Death" Steve Williams. 284 00:14:21,227 --> 00:14:22,695 It'd be confusing on the card." 285 00:14:22,829 --> 00:14:25,865 And he goes, "You got 15 minutes to come up with a name." 286 00:14:25,865 --> 00:14:27,266 and he walks away. 287 00:14:27,333 --> 00:14:30,269 And I'm just two months in the business, new territory, 288 00:14:30,336 --> 00:14:33,873 don't know anybody and don't know what the F to do. 289 00:14:33,873 --> 00:14:36,476 The match is about to start, and you know, I'm making a life 290 00:14:36,542 --> 00:14:38,945 changing decision, and he goes, 291 00:14:38,945 --> 00:14:40,813 uh, "All right, what'd you come up with?" 292 00:14:40,913 --> 00:14:42,115 I said, "I ain't got nothing." 293 00:14:42,115 --> 00:14:43,950 He goes, "You're Steve Austin" and I started calling myself 294 00:14:43,950 --> 00:14:45,384 "Stunning" Steve Austin. 295 00:14:45,384 --> 00:14:49,188 And I had a red robe with sequins on it. 296 00:14:52,859 --> 00:14:55,828 All I did was wrestle, you know, go to the gym in the morning, 297 00:14:55,895 --> 00:14:58,865 get in the car, go wrestle somewhere, and drive back. 298 00:14:58,865 --> 00:15:01,000 That was life. 299 00:15:01,834 --> 00:15:04,704 I was a sponge and I was absorbing all this information 300 00:15:04,837 --> 00:15:07,874 from these great minds who would teach me information that they 301 00:15:07,874 --> 00:15:10,076 got from generations before them. 302 00:15:10,743 --> 00:15:13,546 - I've been very impressed by Steve Austin's ability 303 00:15:13,646 --> 00:15:15,948 and how far he's come in such a short time. 304 00:15:15,948 --> 00:15:17,984 He's showing that he has the potential 305 00:15:18,050 --> 00:15:19,752 to go a long, long way. 306 00:15:19,819 --> 00:15:22,555 He will be a superstar if he gets with the right kind 307 00:15:22,622 --> 00:15:26,225 of people and just sits back, listens and learns. 308 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:28,728 - Yes sir. 309 00:15:30,062 --> 00:15:31,631 - You watch the matches and you listen to the crowd and you put 310 00:15:31,697 --> 00:15:34,367 the two together and watch-watch they're doing and-and listen 311 00:15:34,467 --> 00:15:36,269 to the soundtrack, "Oh, that works. 312 00:15:36,335 --> 00:15:37,670 That doesn't work." 313 00:15:41,707 --> 00:15:44,644 Oh yeah, one, two, three. 314 00:15:44,710 --> 00:15:47,413 - A place like USWA at that point, it gave those wrestlers 315 00:15:47,513 --> 00:15:48,748 an opportunity where even if they were 316 00:15:48,748 --> 00:15:51,384 only making 10, 20, $30 a night, 317 00:15:51,384 --> 00:15:55,288 the payoff was maybe someone from the WWE 318 00:15:55,388 --> 00:15:57,423 or World Championship Wrestling at the time might see me 319 00:15:57,423 --> 00:16:00,626 and they'll bring me up and kind of they'll be my guardian angel 320 00:16:00,693 --> 00:16:03,062 and suddenly I'll be making way more money. 321 00:16:03,129 --> 00:16:05,898 - Well, I think "Stunning" Steve Austin definitely has 322 00:16:05,898 --> 00:16:09,635 a fantastic future ahead of him in this sport. 323 00:16:15,908 --> 00:16:18,878 - At that time I was on the booking committee at WCW which 324 00:16:18,945 --> 00:16:21,314 was World Championship Wrestling. 325 00:16:21,948 --> 00:16:24,784 And we were all challenged and compelled to try to find some 326 00:16:24,784 --> 00:16:28,788 new faces, some new young athletic talents that we could 327 00:16:28,788 --> 00:16:31,424 build that had potential. 328 00:16:31,490 --> 00:16:32,925 Gosh, he checked all those boxes. 329 00:16:33,426 --> 00:16:37,063 - Back in the day the standard deal for WCW, and this is crazy, 330 00:16:37,063 --> 00:16:40,466 you made $75,000 you know, guaranteed. 331 00:16:40,466 --> 00:16:45,471 You'd go from getting anywhere from 20 to 60 or $100 a night 332 00:16:45,471 --> 00:16:49,075 to 75,000 a year. 333 00:16:49,141 --> 00:16:50,643 It was like the mother-load. 334 00:16:50,710 --> 00:16:54,113 You know, again this is, uh, '92, '93, and that's a lot 335 00:16:54,113 --> 00:16:57,817 of money, especially coming from where-where I came from. 336 00:16:57,950 --> 00:17:00,419 - WCW was a little different level; bigger television 337 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:04,390 opportunities, bigger chance for national exposure. 338 00:17:04,824 --> 00:17:07,393 - Welcome back to World Championship Wrestling and I'm 339 00:17:07,460 --> 00:17:08,928 Missy Hyatt. 340 00:17:09,028 --> 00:17:12,064 And now, I would like to introduce 341 00:17:12,064 --> 00:17:17,103 "Stunning" Steve Austin and the "Vivacious" Veronica. 342 00:17:17,236 --> 00:17:19,672 - WCW, I think it was my first appearance on the ring 343 00:17:19,739 --> 00:17:21,641 and Missy Hyatt's gonna interview me, 344 00:17:21,707 --> 00:17:23,442 and I'm walking down the aisle 345 00:17:23,509 --> 00:17:25,711 and I'm just I'm in another world, right. 346 00:17:25,711 --> 00:17:28,748 And I can hear the announcer over the crowd going, 347 00:17:28,748 --> 00:17:32,151 "And from Hollywood, California" and I'm like "Man, who the -- 348 00:17:32,218 --> 00:17:33,586 is that guy talking about?" 349 00:17:33,653 --> 00:17:37,623 I'm walking to the ring, "'Stunning' Steve Austin." 350 00:17:37,623 --> 00:17:38,824 [chuckles] 351 00:17:38,891 --> 00:17:43,262 I was like "When did my Texas ass with this accent you know 352 00:17:43,329 --> 00:17:46,098 become from Hollywood, California?" 353 00:17:46,198 --> 00:17:48,000 - I would just like to take this time to welcome you 354 00:17:48,067 --> 00:17:50,803 to World Championship Wrestling. 355 00:17:50,870 --> 00:17:52,905 - So I get out there and climb in the ring and I'm doing this 356 00:17:52,905 --> 00:17:56,442 interview with Missy Hyatt and of course I got the biggest 357 00:17:56,509 --> 00:17:58,511 booger you can have hanging out of your nose, and I was like, 358 00:17:58,511 --> 00:18:00,012 "Really?" 359 00:18:00,112 --> 00:18:02,148 It wasn't- it wasn't a great first appearance. 360 00:18:02,148 --> 00:18:03,549 [chuckles] 361 00:18:03,549 --> 00:18:07,219 - "Stunning" Steve Austin. 362 00:18:07,219 --> 00:18:10,222 - Steve always had great natural intensity. 363 00:18:10,222 --> 00:18:14,460 It wasn't prefabricated, it wasn't manufactured. 364 00:18:14,460 --> 00:18:15,594 It was real. 365 00:18:16,862 --> 00:18:21,667 - You can see that he could tap into his athletic background to 366 00:18:21,667 --> 00:18:26,706 bring a reality in the fight that very few other people 367 00:18:26,706 --> 00:18:27,673 can match. 368 00:18:27,673 --> 00:18:29,475 - Ooh, did you see that? 369 00:18:29,542 --> 00:18:32,678 - He had a solid run throughout his time in WCW. 370 00:18:32,745 --> 00:18:36,482 At one point he was part of a tag team The Hollywood Blondes. 371 00:18:36,549 --> 00:18:40,620 They were this young, vibrant arrogant tag team, spitting 372 00:18:40,620 --> 00:18:44,590 in the wind against the veterans of that company at the time, 373 00:18:45,191 --> 00:18:46,926 but he was always one of the secondary performers 374 00:18:47,026 --> 00:18:48,861 in the company. 375 00:18:48,961 --> 00:18:53,632 - I don't think anyone in WCW ever visualized Steve Austin 376 00:18:53,699 --> 00:18:56,235 as being the top guy. 377 00:18:58,437 --> 00:19:00,873 - I was keenly aware that there-there was that upper level 378 00:19:00,873 --> 00:19:02,642 and I wasn't a part of it. 379 00:19:02,708 --> 00:19:06,012 Unless something happened, you could not break into that-that 380 00:19:06,112 --> 00:19:08,547 next tier. 381 00:19:11,817 --> 00:19:14,186 Aesthetically, I didn't have the right look. 382 00:19:14,186 --> 00:19:17,423 I didn't have the right gimmick or persona. 383 00:19:17,423 --> 00:19:19,258 They didn't think I was marketable. 384 00:19:19,358 --> 00:19:22,461 - Get out of my face. 385 00:19:23,729 --> 00:19:26,465 - From the Land of the Rising Sun. 386 00:19:26,465 --> 00:19:28,868 - It was over in Japan on a three-week tour. 387 00:19:28,868 --> 00:19:31,404 And the third night of that tour, I jumped off the top rope 388 00:19:31,470 --> 00:19:33,072 into a splashing fly and he moved 389 00:19:33,072 --> 00:19:36,108 and I tore my right tricep off my elbow. 390 00:19:36,108 --> 00:19:38,944 And so, I wrestled for two and a half weeks with a torn tricep, 391 00:19:39,078 --> 00:19:40,146 you know. 392 00:19:40,146 --> 00:19:41,080 And as soon as I get back to the United States, 393 00:19:41,147 --> 00:19:42,114 my first major surgery. 394 00:19:43,416 --> 00:19:46,018 And I remember, uh, getting a call from Eric Bischoff, who was 395 00:19:46,118 --> 00:19:49,622 running the WCW at the time, and he goes, 396 00:19:49,688 --> 00:19:51,824 "Steve, I'm just, you know, letting you know that, 397 00:19:51,891 --> 00:19:53,726 you know, you're getting fired." 398 00:19:53,826 --> 00:19:55,227 And so that's how it went down. 399 00:19:55,294 --> 00:19:57,897 Got a FedEx the next day and I was out of a job. 400 00:19:58,030 --> 00:19:59,632 I'm sitting there trying to heal up now. 401 00:19:59,698 --> 00:20:01,567 The money is gonna stop coming in. 402 00:20:01,667 --> 00:20:04,303 I got bills to pay and my family to feed. 403 00:20:04,437 --> 00:20:05,638 I'm like, "Man, what am I gonna do?" 404 00:20:11,243 --> 00:20:14,413 - So in this upcoming act, you'll see a director's cut 405 00:20:14,513 --> 00:20:16,849 exclusive, which is a more in-depth look 406 00:20:16,916 --> 00:20:20,219 into The Ringmaster character and Steve trying 407 00:20:20,219 --> 00:20:22,154 to discover that character. 408 00:20:22,221 --> 00:20:23,389 - He's all business, McMahon. 409 00:20:23,456 --> 00:20:25,458 He's not in there trying to impress anybody with how good 410 00:20:25,458 --> 00:20:27,726 he looks or like how pretty his hair is or anything. 411 00:20:27,827 --> 00:20:31,697 He just wants to beat up people and win matches. 412 00:20:31,797 --> 00:20:34,967 - I think Steve looks back on that character in a frustrated 413 00:20:35,034 --> 00:20:39,905 way because he was coming from a time in his career at ECW when 414 00:20:39,905 --> 00:20:43,509 they gave him a mic and he flexed his skills on the mic 415 00:20:43,609 --> 00:20:46,512 and he knew he was a good talker and he knew he was entertaining. 416 00:20:47,313 --> 00:20:52,384 - Eric Bischoff told his secretary to tell her secretary 417 00:20:52,451 --> 00:20:55,554 to leave a message on my answering machine for me to call 418 00:20:55,621 --> 00:20:58,390 Eric Bischoff. 419 00:20:58,858 --> 00:21:01,260 And then I called Eric Bischoff and he proceeded 420 00:21:01,260 --> 00:21:03,329 to fire me over the phone. 421 00:21:04,396 --> 00:21:08,834 - And he gets to the WWE and the first thing he is told is, 422 00:21:08,901 --> 00:21:10,569 "Don't talk." 423 00:21:10,669 --> 00:21:12,638 And I think that that was hard for Steve because he knew 424 00:21:12,705 --> 00:21:13,973 he was good on the mic. 425 00:21:14,073 --> 00:21:15,708 He knew he could cut a good promo. 426 00:21:15,708 --> 00:21:17,910 So I think when he looks back on that time, it's frustrating 427 00:21:17,910 --> 00:21:19,945 because he was being told one thing 428 00:21:20,045 --> 00:21:22,114 and he believed in another. 429 00:21:22,181 --> 00:21:24,450 - Because everybody's got a price for 430 00:21:24,550 --> 00:21:26,385 The Million Dollar Man. 431 00:21:26,385 --> 00:21:28,354 [laughs] 432 00:21:28,420 --> 00:21:30,790 Vince put Steve with me. 433 00:21:30,856 --> 00:21:34,126 That's-that's the rub, you know, 'cause when he first started, 434 00:21:34,226 --> 00:21:38,964 obviously, he was a newcomer, but, uh, I don't think anybody 435 00:21:39,064 --> 00:21:43,269 at that time envisioned just how big he would get. 436 00:21:43,369 --> 00:21:45,905 - He takes himself back into that moment 'cause you can see 437 00:21:46,005 --> 00:21:47,473 he's thinking, "How did they not let me talk? 438 00:21:47,540 --> 00:21:48,707 That was my strength." 439 00:21:48,808 --> 00:21:50,276 And ultimately he was proven right. 440 00:21:50,342 --> 00:21:51,877 That was one of the most memorable things about his 441 00:21:51,944 --> 00:21:54,480 career was Steve is maybe the best talker 442 00:21:54,547 --> 00:21:57,583 in the history of the WWE. 443 00:21:57,583 --> 00:21:59,585 So it's ironic that the first direction he's given is, 444 00:21:59,652 --> 00:22:00,886 "Don't talk." 445 00:22:01,620 --> 00:22:04,523 - The Ringmaster. 446 00:22:04,623 --> 00:22:06,625 - But exploring that character is interesting because it's- it 447 00:22:06,692 --> 00:22:09,328 also is just another example of how hard it is to be successful 448 00:22:09,428 --> 00:22:11,664 and everything has to line up perfectly 449 00:22:11,664 --> 00:22:13,966 and that includes a good character. 450 00:22:20,105 --> 00:22:23,475 - In September 1995, I was the owner of the ECW 451 00:22:23,542 --> 00:22:26,912 and was in charge of all the creative direction. 452 00:22:26,912 --> 00:22:30,950 Someone from WCW buzzed me that Steve was being let go. 453 00:22:30,950 --> 00:22:32,618 So I called Steve and I said, 454 00:22:32,718 --> 00:22:33,886 "Uh, hey, I heard you got fired." 455 00:22:33,986 --> 00:22:35,387 - Right off the bat, the phone rings. 456 00:22:35,387 --> 00:22:36,689 It's Pauly. 457 00:22:36,755 --> 00:22:39,458 Paul calls me and he goes, "Kid," he goes, "why don't you 458 00:22:39,558 --> 00:22:41,660 come over and start working for me?" 459 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:43,762 I said, "-- Paul," I said, "I-I can't work." 460 00:22:43,829 --> 00:22:45,631 I said, "I've got a torn tricep. 461 00:22:45,698 --> 00:22:47,466 - "Oh, hell, kid, I-I'm-I'm hurt. 462 00:22:47,466 --> 00:22:50,102 I can't do anything." 463 00:22:50,102 --> 00:22:51,704 "Can you talk?" 464 00:22:51,704 --> 00:22:55,107 "Oh, hell, kid, I can talk all day long." 465 00:22:55,207 --> 00:22:57,042 "Come on on up and talk." 466 00:22:57,109 --> 00:23:00,813 - And I said, "Man, what do you want me to talk about?" 467 00:23:00,913 --> 00:23:03,716 He goes- he goes, "Just-just talk about how you feel." 468 00:23:03,782 --> 00:23:06,418 - "If you're pissed off, come and vent. 469 00:23:06,518 --> 00:23:07,786 Let's talk about that." 470 00:23:07,853 --> 00:23:16,028 I wanted that authentic outrage on my television show. 471 00:23:16,028 --> 00:23:18,264 - Sure enough, there I am flying up to Philly. 472 00:23:18,264 --> 00:23:22,034 We go to that God dang-- ECW Arena, which is a complete --. 473 00:23:23,002 --> 00:23:25,971 - ECW was- well, it was- it was purgatory, 474 00:23:26,071 --> 00:23:29,642 basically, probably closer to hell than purgatory. 475 00:23:29,708 --> 00:23:33,412 - ECW is Extreme Championship Wrestling, and I dare say they 476 00:23:33,512 --> 00:23:38,384 earned the extreme, uh, moniker. 477 00:23:43,789 --> 00:23:48,527 - At ECW, we were obsessed with delivering performances that 478 00:23:48,627 --> 00:23:52,298 were going to redefine the industry, with doing things that 479 00:23:52,298 --> 00:23:54,300 had never been done before. 480 00:23:54,300 --> 00:23:57,036 - There were tables and barbed wire and blood and guts 481 00:23:57,102 --> 00:24:01,040 and people flying into the crowd. 482 00:24:03,742 --> 00:24:06,111 - We took in, uh, misfits. 483 00:24:06,178 --> 00:24:08,747 I mean, if there was an island for misfit wrestlers, 484 00:24:08,847 --> 00:24:10,849 it was ECW. 485 00:24:11,717 --> 00:24:15,621 - Oh, my God. 486 00:24:15,621 --> 00:24:16,889 - I'm the new guy in the territory. 487 00:24:16,956 --> 00:24:18,023 What's my mission? 488 00:24:18,023 --> 00:24:19,024 What's my goal? 489 00:24:19,024 --> 00:24:20,125 Who am I? 490 00:24:20,225 --> 00:24:21,260 What am I?" 491 00:24:21,360 --> 00:24:22,962 You know, you're-you're kind of lost. 492 00:24:23,028 --> 00:24:24,697 I'll never forget that night when I-I cut this promo. 493 00:24:24,697 --> 00:24:26,365 It was about seven or eight minutes long, 494 00:24:26,465 --> 00:24:29,835 and I just started talking, and it was a one-take promo. 495 00:24:29,902 --> 00:24:34,573 And everything I said was how I felt. 496 00:24:34,673 --> 00:24:38,711 You know, a couple of weeks ago, when Eric Bischoff told his 497 00:24:38,711 --> 00:24:43,382 secretary to tell her secretary to leave a message on my 498 00:24:43,382 --> 00:24:48,587 answering machine for me to call Eric Bischoff. 499 00:24:48,587 --> 00:24:50,689 And then I called Eric Bischoff, and he proceeded to fire me over 500 00:24:50,756 --> 00:24:53,125 the phone. 501 00:24:53,892 --> 00:24:55,794 We're gonna put the US title on you and then we're gonna take 502 00:24:55,861 --> 00:24:58,297 you here, and then you're the number one contender. 503 00:24:58,397 --> 00:24:59,965 So then you got this world title shot. 504 00:25:00,065 --> 00:25:03,802 Well, all -- that never happened. 505 00:25:03,869 --> 00:25:06,105 When I wrapped up that promo and they shut off that light, 506 00:25:06,105 --> 00:25:08,907 everybody in that room started clapping, 507 00:25:08,907 --> 00:25:12,277 - Standing ovation, and rightfully so. 508 00:25:12,344 --> 00:25:15,948 - He was able to express himself in a way that you just could not 509 00:25:16,048 --> 00:25:20,386 do, or that we were not allowed to do in WCW. 510 00:25:20,386 --> 00:25:24,456 - Man, after being held down or kind of restrained in WCW, 511 00:25:24,456 --> 00:25:25,924 where no one believed in me, 512 00:25:26,024 --> 00:25:28,460 I knew that I had to take chances on myself. 513 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,964 - You could tell that he was energized and that he had 514 00:25:32,064 --> 00:25:35,334 an axe to grind and he was grinding it really well. 515 00:25:35,434 --> 00:25:37,903 - And a lot of people saying that's kind of- that maybe that 516 00:25:37,903 --> 00:25:41,774 was the genesis of what Stone Cold would-would come from. 517 00:25:41,874 --> 00:25:45,144 Steve-O-Mania is going run wild on the ECW, brother, 518 00:25:45,244 --> 00:25:47,079 I'm saying my prayers. 519 00:25:49,948 --> 00:25:55,821 I'm not gonna do this -- anywhere, not even in ECW. 520 00:25:56,555 --> 00:25:59,458 - Well, Jim Ross was always an admirer of Steve's talent. 521 00:25:59,558 --> 00:26:02,060 So I knew ECW was always vulnerable, 522 00:26:02,060 --> 00:26:06,432 that Jim Ross would recruit Steve into WWE. 523 00:26:06,498 --> 00:26:11,236 Once Steve did that interview on ECW, Jim Ross came after him, 524 00:26:11,303 --> 00:26:12,504 and rightfully so. 525 00:26:12,604 --> 00:26:14,106 How could he not? 526 00:26:14,206 --> 00:26:17,209 I didn't realize how fast it was gonna happen. 527 00:26:17,276 --> 00:26:21,613 - The WWE was subsidizing ECW when Steve was there. 528 00:26:21,713 --> 00:26:25,284 So we-we had our eye on him for quite some time, at least I did. 529 00:26:25,384 --> 00:26:27,753 I just had to wait for the right place, the right time to get him 530 00:26:27,820 --> 00:26:30,255 to WWE. 531 00:26:30,255 --> 00:26:32,991 - So and then the phone rings, and it's a maroon phone, 532 00:26:33,058 --> 00:26:34,793 and I'd pick it up. 533 00:26:34,860 --> 00:26:36,061 "Steve. 534 00:26:36,061 --> 00:26:37,396 Vince McMahon." 535 00:26:37,463 --> 00:26:38,697 "Hey Vince, how're you doing?" 536 00:26:38,797 --> 00:26:41,633 "Hey, wanna bring you as the Ringmaster, 537 00:26:41,700 --> 00:26:43,702 uh, Master of the Ring." 538 00:26:43,702 --> 00:26:47,773 - From a creative standpoint, the character of the Ringmaster 539 00:26:47,873 --> 00:26:52,277 was the best in-ring performer and could do it all. 540 00:26:52,344 --> 00:26:54,613 And to me that was Steve Austin. 541 00:26:54,713 --> 00:26:55,914 - And I'm sitting there listening to Vince make this 542 00:26:55,981 --> 00:26:59,485 pitch, and I'm like, "Ringmaster?" 543 00:26:59,585 --> 00:27:04,122 First of all, it sounds like --, but more importantly than that, 544 00:27:04,223 --> 00:27:06,525 I need more money than I'm making from ECW 545 00:27:06,625 --> 00:27:08,627 and I ain't got no other options. 546 00:27:08,627 --> 00:27:10,195 So I said, "Sounds good. 547 00:27:10,262 --> 00:27:11,230 Let's do it." 548 00:27:19,338 --> 00:27:22,474 - I give you The Ringmaster. 549 00:27:22,474 --> 00:27:24,276 [laughs] 550 00:27:24,343 --> 00:27:27,412 - First appearance of "The Ringmaster" Steve Austin was on 551 00:27:27,513 --> 00:27:31,817 the Brother Love Show, and being Brother Love, I-I gotta host it 552 00:27:31,917 --> 00:27:35,787 and-and do the introduction of Steve. 553 00:27:35,854 --> 00:27:39,024 - And Ringmaster, right here in front of everybody, I want to 554 00:27:39,024 --> 00:27:45,664 officially crown you my Million Dollar Champion. 555 00:27:46,398 --> 00:27:48,100 - We partnered Steve with 556 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:49,668 Ted DiBiase "The Million Dollar Man". 557 00:27:49,668 --> 00:27:53,972 We immediately put the Million Dollar Championship on Steve so 558 00:27:54,072 --> 00:27:58,710 that Steve had a claim to, uh, a championship that he didn't win. 559 00:27:58,777 --> 00:28:01,013 - When I saw the, uh, the wardrobe or what they wanted me 560 00:28:01,113 --> 00:28:03,849 to wear, 'cause they wanted me to wear green singlet like 561 00:28:03,916 --> 00:28:05,984 emerald green, the color of money, and I said, 562 00:28:06,051 --> 00:28:08,787 "I ain't wearing no singlet." 563 00:28:08,854 --> 00:28:11,190 So they made me some green trunks. 564 00:28:11,256 --> 00:28:13,525 I showed up there with kind of ha- kind of a half assed- look, 565 00:28:13,625 --> 00:28:15,227 but it was what it was. 566 00:28:17,729 --> 00:28:19,498 - He was known for the long blond hair 567 00:28:19,498 --> 00:28:20,966 and for being a great wrestler. 568 00:28:21,066 --> 00:28:23,268 And then he shows up, and he's got a shaved head. 569 00:28:23,368 --> 00:28:27,506 You know, he has like a very unaudacious debut. 570 00:28:27,606 --> 00:28:30,642 - Behold, brothers and sisters, 571 00:28:30,709 --> 00:28:32,678 Behold. 572 00:28:32,744 --> 00:28:37,416 The Million Dollar Champion. 573 00:28:37,482 --> 00:28:44,823 Vince told me, "Whatever you do, don't let Steve talk. 574 00:28:44,823 --> 00:28:48,026 Don't give him a microphone, whatever you do." 575 00:28:48,093 --> 00:28:50,896 Paul Heyman calls me that day, and Paul says, 576 00:28:50,896 --> 00:28:53,865 "Bruce, whatever you do, 577 00:28:53,865 --> 00:28:57,836 make sure you put a microphone in Steve's hand. 578 00:28:57,903 --> 00:29:00,072 Give him the mic, let him talk." 579 00:29:02,007 --> 00:29:05,110 So, I'm kind of in between a rock and a hard place. 580 00:29:05,110 --> 00:29:09,548 Brother, Ringmaster. 581 00:29:09,948 --> 00:29:14,386 Steve came to me and Steve says, "Hey, after we do the- the 582 00:29:14,386 --> 00:29:18,824 whole presentation, do you mind if I say something?" 583 00:29:18,890 --> 00:29:22,027 I said, "Sure, just do it." 584 00:29:22,027 --> 00:29:24,029 - Back up a little bit, brother. 585 00:29:24,096 --> 00:29:26,832 Everybody out there in TV Land, I'm gonna give you a chance 586 00:29:26,898 --> 00:29:28,467 to be somebody. 587 00:29:28,467 --> 00:29:31,370 Come on, get the camera on that hand right there. 588 00:29:31,470 --> 00:29:35,574 I want everybody out there in TV Land to touch your screen 589 00:29:35,674 --> 00:29:39,878 and feel what it's like to be destined for success. 590 00:29:39,945 --> 00:29:41,813 When I'm sitting there looking at the guy doing it with the 591 00:29:41,913 --> 00:29:45,384 buzz haircut, like, man, you know, the emerald green trunks, 592 00:29:45,384 --> 00:29:48,286 it just- it wasn't a great presentation or a great look. 593 00:29:48,387 --> 00:29:50,389 I'm gonna do it all, and you're gonna see 594 00:29:50,455 --> 00:29:52,457 what the Million Dollar Man 595 00:29:52,457 --> 00:29:56,028 and the Million Dollar Champ are gonna accomplish. 596 00:29:56,028 --> 00:29:58,463 And then I'll have every single thing 597 00:29:58,530 --> 00:30:00,465 that I want out of the WWE. 598 00:30:05,671 --> 00:30:09,508 - Back body drop, very impressed with The Ringmaster. 599 00:30:09,608 --> 00:30:13,078 - We made the mistake of bringing Steve in as a villain. 600 00:30:13,145 --> 00:30:17,082 That's how he was cast as with Ted DiBiase. 601 00:30:17,149 --> 00:30:19,418 The Ringmaster and the Million Dollar Man looks great 602 00:30:19,518 --> 00:30:21,420 on-on an 8 x 10. 603 00:30:21,420 --> 00:30:24,856 You know, you got two amazing personalities. 604 00:30:24,856 --> 00:30:27,426 Teddy and Steve had little to no chemistry. 605 00:30:29,094 --> 00:30:30,629 It didn't work. 606 00:30:30,696 --> 00:30:32,431 Nobody's fault. 607 00:30:32,497 --> 00:30:34,499 It's just that way sometimes. 608 00:30:34,499 --> 00:30:39,271 - I don't think that Steve was particularly fond of having 609 00:30:39,271 --> 00:30:42,374 a mouthpiece, having Ted DiBiase as a manager. 610 00:30:42,908 --> 00:30:46,745 - My Million Dollar Champion, a man who had a heart like mine, 611 00:30:46,845 --> 00:30:47,813 The Ringmaster. 612 00:30:48,947 --> 00:30:51,983 - Because Steve was confident in his verbal skills. 613 00:30:52,050 --> 00:30:54,953 - When you combine wealth and greed, you don't only create 614 00:30:55,020 --> 00:30:59,458 a winner, you create a monster. 615 00:30:59,458 --> 00:31:02,427 Well, that time was hardest because, you know, on one hand, 616 00:31:02,427 --> 00:31:05,297 it was a great opportunity, but, you know, there's no as far as 617 00:31:05,397 --> 00:31:09,668 a character or anything, Ringmaster is not like seeing 618 00:31:09,768 --> 00:31:12,370 Ric Flair or Hulk Hogan, or something like that 619 00:31:12,471 --> 00:31:15,507 on a billboard. 620 00:31:16,141 --> 00:31:19,911 - I can now look back and I can appreciate Steve Austin 621 00:31:19,911 --> 00:31:24,716 realizing and feeling deep down, like, in here that this 622 00:31:24,783 --> 00:31:29,688 Ringmaster character is not happening because it's not me 623 00:31:29,788 --> 00:31:31,656 and it's not authentic. 624 00:31:31,757 --> 00:31:32,924 - Unbelievable. 625 00:31:33,024 --> 00:31:35,227 Look at the laugh on DiBiase. 626 00:31:44,102 --> 00:31:46,905 - When I joined the WWE, I knew the-the territory was down. 627 00:31:47,005 --> 00:31:49,074 You know, things weren't great. 628 00:31:49,141 --> 00:31:53,111 They-they-they were getting by, but, you know, we'd go out, 629 00:31:53,111 --> 00:31:55,113 and I don't know, it seemed like the houses would be, 630 00:31:55,113 --> 00:31:56,848 like, a quarter full. 631 00:31:56,915 --> 00:31:59,818 But I was willing to be a part of the system just because it's 632 00:31:59,818 --> 00:32:04,856 so new, it's so big, and I'm so far low down, you know, that I 633 00:32:04,956 --> 00:32:07,459 ain't got a reason to act like a big shot, because I ain't. 634 00:32:07,559 --> 00:32:09,828 Because here I am as a Ringmaster, a new gimmick, 635 00:32:09,895 --> 00:32:11,563 a bad gimmick. 636 00:32:11,663 --> 00:32:15,500 And, you know, you don't know who and what you are. 637 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:16,735 - He's all business, McMahon. 638 00:32:16,802 --> 00:32:18,870 He's not in there trying to impress anybody with how good 639 00:32:18,870 --> 00:32:21,239 he looks or, like, how pretty his hair is or anything. 640 00:32:21,306 --> 00:32:24,476 He just wants to beat up people and win matches. 641 00:32:24,543 --> 00:32:28,146 - This character is a stretch because I-I don't know what it 642 00:32:28,246 --> 00:32:30,248 is or what it's supposed to be. 643 00:32:30,315 --> 00:32:32,784 As The Ringmaster, I didn't know who and what I was or how I'm 644 00:32:32,784 --> 00:32:35,554 supposed to do things, so it's very confusing. 645 00:32:35,620 --> 00:32:37,789 And after a while, I just stopped wearing the green trucks 646 00:32:37,856 --> 00:32:39,624 because they weren't paying attention to me. 647 00:32:39,624 --> 00:32:42,828 So I'm thinking, I don't think they really got plans for me. 648 00:32:43,829 --> 00:32:47,165 - Vince looked at Steve, saw an average guy, says, "I don't know 649 00:32:47,265 --> 00:32:50,202 what to do with him, and that accent. 650 00:32:50,268 --> 00:32:53,672 It's just I can't relate to him. 651 00:32:53,672 --> 00:32:55,073 There's nothing about him I can relate to." 652 00:32:55,907 --> 00:33:00,946 - My initial impressions of him was he's wasting my time. 653 00:33:00,946 --> 00:33:02,881 - There was no way to go with the Ringmaster to make it 654 00:33:02,948 --> 00:33:04,783 marquee. 655 00:33:04,783 --> 00:33:07,085 I don't give a damn who was doing it. 656 00:33:07,185 --> 00:33:08,353 There's nothing there. 657 00:33:08,420 --> 00:33:11,456 And I said, "Man," I said, "this gimmick ain't worth a --." 658 00:33:11,456 --> 00:33:14,426 And after six months or so, you know, Vince is kind of like, "F, 659 00:33:14,426 --> 00:33:16,428 I don't care what he does. 660 00:33:16,428 --> 00:33:18,864 If he's not happy and he wants to come up with another name, 661 00:33:18,864 --> 00:33:20,232 let him." 662 00:33:20,298 --> 00:33:23,034 And I was living in a log cabin on 10 acres right outside 663 00:33:23,101 --> 00:33:25,170 of Georgia in Douglasville. 664 00:33:25,270 --> 00:33:27,973 And I was over there in my-my log cabin, and I was drinking 665 00:33:28,073 --> 00:33:30,809 some beer, and that's when they had that special on HBO about 666 00:33:30,876 --> 00:33:32,611 Richard Kuklinski "The Ice Man". 667 00:33:35,313 --> 00:33:39,384 Well, Richard Kuklinski was a hitman, you know, for the mob. 668 00:33:39,384 --> 00:33:40,151 He's cold blooded. 669 00:33:40,218 --> 00:33:41,887 He's remorseless. 670 00:33:41,987 --> 00:33:43,989 I was glued to the set. 671 00:33:44,055 --> 00:33:45,624 When you're sitting there watching and you got a couple 672 00:33:45,690 --> 00:33:47,526 of beers flowing, and it's like, man, 673 00:33:47,626 --> 00:33:50,362 this-this could be something. 674 00:33:50,428 --> 00:33:52,964 And I pitched that, and, you know, that-that was when 675 00:33:53,064 --> 00:33:55,166 all the ideas started flowing. 676 00:33:55,267 --> 00:33:56,968 - That's a tricky situation where you're fairly 677 00:33:57,035 --> 00:33:59,437 new in the company. 678 00:33:59,504 --> 00:34:02,974 Mr. McMahon has agreed to give you a character change, 679 00:34:03,074 --> 00:34:05,110 and you were given a list from creative. 680 00:34:05,176 --> 00:34:08,747 The fact that I can rattle off more of Stone Cold's names 681 00:34:08,747 --> 00:34:10,582 than the terrible names that I was given 682 00:34:10,582 --> 00:34:13,018 speaks to just how bad they were. 683 00:34:13,118 --> 00:34:15,620 - And I just gotten those three pages of names 684 00:34:15,720 --> 00:34:17,022 like Fang McFrost. 685 00:34:17,122 --> 00:34:18,623 - Snowman. 686 00:34:18,623 --> 00:34:20,058 - Otto von Ruthless. 687 00:34:20,158 --> 00:34:21,626 - Mr. Freeze. 688 00:34:21,626 --> 00:34:23,028 - Ice Dagger. 689 00:34:23,028 --> 00:34:24,062 - Ice Dagger. 690 00:34:24,162 --> 00:34:25,063 - Cool Luke. 691 00:34:25,063 --> 00:34:26,064 - Fang McFrost. 692 00:34:26,064 --> 00:34:27,232 - Cool Cat. 693 00:34:27,299 --> 00:34:28,233 - Chilly McFreeze. 694 00:34:28,300 --> 00:34:30,268 - Chilly McFreeze. 695 00:34:30,368 --> 00:34:33,104 Some of the worst names you could ever imagine. 696 00:34:33,104 --> 00:34:36,107 - Even given everything else in the Austin package, if he's 697 00:34:36,107 --> 00:34:38,677 Fang McFrost or Chilly McFreeze, 698 00:34:38,743 --> 00:34:41,413 we're not having this interview right now. 699 00:34:43,682 --> 00:34:46,184 - And my wife at the time made me a cup of hot tea, 700 00:34:46,251 --> 00:34:48,753 and she goes, "Drink your tea before it gets stone cold." 701 00:34:48,820 --> 00:34:51,523 And she looks at me, she goes, that's your name, 702 00:34:51,623 --> 00:34:53,625 "Stone Cold" Steve Austin. 703 00:34:53,692 --> 00:34:56,061 You know, I'm not a rocket scientist, but when she said 704 00:34:56,161 --> 00:34:58,229 that name, I knew that was the one. 705 00:34:58,296 --> 00:35:00,465 I said, "Okay, this-this is a good name." 706 00:35:00,465 --> 00:35:03,234 And I wanted to be from Victoria, Texas, because, you 707 00:35:03,234 --> 00:35:05,570 know, I just thought it had a good ring to it, a good sound, 708 00:35:06,705 --> 00:35:07,839 but okay. 709 00:35:07,906 --> 00:35:08,773 Now, who is this guy? 710 00:35:08,873 --> 00:35:11,276 Who and what is "Stone Cold" Steve Austin? 711 00:35:11,343 --> 00:35:12,877 I got me some black boots made. 712 00:35:12,944 --> 00:35:15,547 I always thought black was badass, and menacing 713 00:35:15,547 --> 00:35:17,515 from Darth Vader, Oakland Raiders type stuff, 714 00:35:17,582 --> 00:35:19,484 and it fit my persona. 715 00:35:19,584 --> 00:35:22,587 I remember one time we were in Pittsburgh and we were about 716 00:35:22,654 --> 00:35:25,624 to work Mellon Arena, and there I was with that buzz haircut. 717 00:35:25,690 --> 00:35:27,459 You know, I looked in the mirror and I said, 718 00:35:27,459 --> 00:35:29,327 "Man, what are you doing?" 719 00:35:29,427 --> 00:35:31,763 So I buzzed it all off with a razor and then that's when 720 00:35:31,863 --> 00:35:33,565 I started messing with the mustache 721 00:35:33,665 --> 00:35:35,100 and finally turned into a goatee. 722 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,869 So I started-- Once I got that goatee down, you know, that's 723 00:35:37,969 --> 00:35:40,505 when things started getting a little bit more menacing 724 00:35:40,605 --> 00:35:43,475 and picked up the visual that I needed. 725 00:35:49,948 --> 00:35:52,183 - I believed in the character because the character 726 00:35:52,183 --> 00:35:53,985 was a real person. 727 00:35:53,985 --> 00:35:57,522 Steve totally embraced the presentation 728 00:35:57,589 --> 00:36:00,792 of "Stone Cold" Steve Austin. 729 00:36:01,426 --> 00:36:03,261 He loved it. 730 00:36:03,361 --> 00:36:04,629 He owned it. 731 00:36:04,696 --> 00:36:06,498 He created it. 732 00:36:08,533 --> 00:36:12,270 He was bold enough to bet on himself and push, and push, 733 00:36:12,270 --> 00:36:15,073 and push until McMahon almost threw his hands up and says, 734 00:36:15,073 --> 00:36:17,909 "Okay, okay, let's go. Let's try it." 735 00:36:18,343 --> 00:36:19,811 He just needs a chance. 736 00:36:19,911 --> 00:36:22,280 Give him a reason to be a main event guy. 737 00:36:27,786 --> 00:36:30,789 - 1995 to 1996, Stone Cold starting to find himself 738 00:36:30,789 --> 00:36:32,657 as a character. 739 00:36:32,757 --> 00:36:35,360 And then they had the 1996 King of the Ring tournament, 740 00:36:35,427 --> 00:36:38,029 which would take place in June. 741 00:36:38,029 --> 00:36:41,066 The King of the Ring is one night pay-per-view. 742 00:36:41,199 --> 00:36:42,867 Wrestlers all go through this tournament, and the winner is 743 00:36:42,867 --> 00:36:45,570 pretty much earmarked to be the next great star. 744 00:36:45,637 --> 00:36:47,238 That's the message from the company. 745 00:36:47,238 --> 00:36:49,674 We're going to try and push them, and promote them, 746 00:36:49,674 --> 00:36:52,877 and move them up behind the scenes. 747 00:36:52,977 --> 00:36:55,647 It had already been planned, Triple H was going to win 748 00:36:55,714 --> 00:36:58,316 King of the Ring, but before that, 749 00:36:58,316 --> 00:37:00,885 Triple H ended up punished for his role in something 750 00:37:00,952 --> 00:37:02,120 called The Curtain Call. 751 00:37:02,821 --> 00:37:05,390 - We did a big no, no in the wrestling business where all of 752 00:37:05,523 --> 00:37:08,426 us came together in Madison Square Garden, myself, Triple H, 753 00:37:08,426 --> 00:37:11,996 Kevin Nash, and Scott Hall. 754 00:37:16,835 --> 00:37:20,638 We were expressing a real friendship out there that had 755 00:37:20,638 --> 00:37:25,009 really nothing to do with whatever was going on in the WWE 756 00:37:25,076 --> 00:37:26,945 at the time or from a storyline standpoint. 757 00:37:27,045 --> 00:37:31,316 We were pulling the, uh, curtain back, uh, more so than anyone 758 00:37:31,449 --> 00:37:34,018 wanted the curtain being put back. 759 00:37:34,586 --> 00:37:36,187 It's very frowned upon 760 00:37:36,187 --> 00:37:38,356 and Triple H got in a lot of trouble. 761 00:37:42,427 --> 00:37:43,328 - Yeah. 762 00:37:43,394 --> 00:37:44,629 Oh, yeah. 763 00:37:44,629 --> 00:37:45,897 It was already- It was already-- Vince had sat me down, talked to 764 00:37:45,997 --> 00:37:48,666 me about it, "Here's where I wanna go, King of the Ring." 765 00:37:48,666 --> 00:37:50,435 And then for me, that was the next level, right? 766 00:37:50,435 --> 00:37:53,438 And, you know, that all went away. 767 00:37:54,405 --> 00:37:56,875 - So in the pecking orders, you looked at it, you looked at who 768 00:37:56,875 --> 00:38:01,713 needed that boost and who needed maybe just a nudge. 769 00:38:01,713 --> 00:38:03,515 Steve was the guy. 770 00:38:03,648 --> 00:38:06,184 - I'm walking in-in-in the building, dragging my suitcase 771 00:38:06,184 --> 00:38:08,887 behind me, I hear this voice, it's Vince. 772 00:38:08,953 --> 00:38:12,157 He goes, "Steve, I just wanna let you know in two weeks you're 773 00:38:12,223 --> 00:38:15,426 winnning King of the Ring." 774 00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,362 I was pretty happy because you know when you're winning the 775 00:38:17,428 --> 00:38:20,231 King of the Ring, you're going to get a big shove after that. 776 00:38:20,231 --> 00:38:23,201 And before, there were no future plans for me. 777 00:38:31,876 --> 00:38:33,711 Go to, uh, Milwaukee's Mecca Arena. 778 00:38:33,711 --> 00:38:36,281 And I go out there and I'm working with Mark Mero, and we 779 00:38:36,347 --> 00:38:38,616 do this thing, we're having a match, and he kicks me 780 00:38:38,683 --> 00:38:41,386 in my mouth and we finished a match. 781 00:38:41,386 --> 00:38:42,387 I beat him. 782 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:44,289 My mouth was busted open pretty bad. 783 00:38:44,355 --> 00:38:46,791 So they take me in an ambulance to the hospital. 784 00:38:46,891 --> 00:38:49,561 And so I get stitched up, 14 stitches or whatever 785 00:38:49,627 --> 00:38:51,229 in my upper lip. 786 00:38:51,362 --> 00:38:53,198 And they bring me back because I'm gonna wrestle 787 00:38:53,264 --> 00:38:55,767 Jake "The Snake" Roberts in the finals and I'm gonna beat Jake, 788 00:38:55,834 --> 00:38:57,035 and become the King of the Ring. 789 00:38:57,168 --> 00:38:59,637 When I come back, my mouth is stitched up and as soon as I get 790 00:38:59,637 --> 00:39:01,840 out of ambulance, there's Michael Hayes. 791 00:39:02,240 --> 00:39:04,776 - We're in the back of the Mecca Arena. 792 00:39:04,842 --> 00:39:08,279 And he came out, he was going to the ring to go take on Jake. 793 00:39:08,346 --> 00:39:10,315 I mean, literally going to the ring. 794 00:39:10,448 --> 00:39:11,683 And I said, "Jake just cut a promo." 795 00:39:11,749 --> 00:39:13,151 He says, "What did he say?" 796 00:39:13,251 --> 00:39:16,754 And I said, you know, he just uses some Bible quotes and, 797 00:39:16,821 --> 00:39:18,189 you know, that he was gonna win. 798 00:39:18,189 --> 00:39:20,825 - My soul was purchased by the blood of the Lamb, brother. 799 00:39:20,825 --> 00:39:23,628 So how can I lose if I just go out there and know the power 800 00:39:23,761 --> 00:39:26,831 above is reaching down and lifting me up? 801 00:39:26,931 --> 00:39:29,834 - And when he told me that, I immediately thought of the 802 00:39:29,901 --> 00:39:31,603 football days back in the day when they're kicking 803 00:39:31,669 --> 00:39:33,905 the field goals a point after, 804 00:39:34,005 --> 00:39:37,275 they always had John 3:16 signs behind the field goal. 805 00:39:37,275 --> 00:39:39,477 So anyway, we go out there and we have the match, 806 00:39:39,477 --> 00:39:41,713 myself and Jake, and because my lip was busted up, 807 00:39:41,713 --> 00:39:44,082 we had a real short match. 808 00:39:44,148 --> 00:39:46,417 After the match, I go over there to do the interview 809 00:39:46,517 --> 00:39:49,287 with Michael Hayes, who smartened me up. 810 00:39:49,354 --> 00:39:52,590 You thump your Bible and you say your prayers, 811 00:39:52,590 --> 00:39:55,526 and it didn't get you anywhere. 812 00:39:55,593 --> 00:39:57,028 Talk about your Psalms. 813 00:39:57,028 --> 00:39:59,998 Talk about John 3:16. 814 00:40:00,064 --> 00:40:04,435 Austin 3:16 says I just whipped your ass. 815 00:40:05,637 --> 00:40:07,839 - Austin 3:16 says, I just whipped your ass. 816 00:40:07,906 --> 00:40:10,475 - Austin 3:16 says, I just whipped your ass. 817 00:40:10,475 --> 00:40:11,809 - He said, I just whipped your ass. 818 00:40:11,876 --> 00:40:13,645 - I just whipped your ass. 819 00:40:13,711 --> 00:40:16,114 And thus a franchise was born. 820 00:40:16,247 --> 00:40:19,684 - There was a vibe of like a rocket ship 821 00:40:19,751 --> 00:40:21,986 igniting its engine to take off. 822 00:40:21,986 --> 00:40:27,525 - That was the moment where the character really became a star. 823 00:40:27,592 --> 00:40:29,627 That's the epicenter of the explosion 824 00:40:29,627 --> 00:40:30,728 that eventually happens. 825 00:40:30,795 --> 00:40:32,597 - I remember thinking halfway through this promo like, 826 00:40:32,664 --> 00:40:35,466 I'm watching this guy get made. 827 00:40:35,466 --> 00:40:39,170 And part of me was like, holy --, that should have been me. 828 00:40:39,237 --> 00:40:41,673 But also, holy --, I wouldn't have cut that promo. 829 00:40:41,673 --> 00:40:43,675 - But I think the stitches in his lip and coming back only 830 00:40:43,808 --> 00:40:48,413 added to the aura of that interview. 831 00:40:48,479 --> 00:40:50,715 - I just got back from the hospital, so I just kind of put 832 00:40:50,715 --> 00:40:52,216 that together in my head. 833 00:40:52,283 --> 00:40:54,952 And I didn't know what kind of holy -- moment that was, 834 00:40:55,019 --> 00:40:56,287 but it was. 835 00:40:56,354 --> 00:40:58,589 And then on the backside of it, I knew I needed to wrap it up. 836 00:40:58,589 --> 00:41:00,191 I needed to put a button on it. 837 00:41:00,191 --> 00:41:04,996 And that's the bottom line because Stone Cold said so. 838 00:41:05,630 --> 00:41:07,265 And that's the bottom line because Stone Cold said so 839 00:41:07,265 --> 00:41:08,666 was on the spot. 840 00:41:08,666 --> 00:41:12,036 I went to bat twice, and I hit two grand slams out of- out 841 00:41:12,170 --> 00:41:14,972 of an event I was never supposed to win. 842 00:41:15,039 --> 00:41:17,608 Next night we showed up, all of a sudden, there's Austin 3:16 843 00:41:17,675 --> 00:41:21,045 signs, and we realized there might be something here. 844 00:41:24,115 --> 00:41:30,955 - Next night on Raw, you saw all these Austin 3:16 signs 845 00:41:31,022 --> 00:41:32,724 all over the building. 846 00:41:32,790 --> 00:41:37,028 - I remember thinking to myself at that time, man, 847 00:41:37,028 --> 00:41:38,529 everything happens for a reason 848 00:41:38,596 --> 00:41:42,433 because this guy is going to be massive now. 849 00:41:42,500 --> 00:41:44,836 - One day, I'm talking to our merch guy 850 00:41:44,836 --> 00:41:46,371 and I'm sitting in the arena. 851 00:41:46,437 --> 00:41:48,773 He goes, "Steven, office finally wants to come up 852 00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:50,375 with a t- shirt for you. 853 00:41:50,441 --> 00:41:52,076 You got any ideas?" 854 00:41:52,076 --> 00:41:54,278 I said, "You're goddamn right I do." 855 00:41:54,379 --> 00:41:58,316 I said, "Put Austin 3:16 on the front, put a skull in the back 856 00:41:58,316 --> 00:42:00,385 and carve in Stone Cold." 857 00:42:00,385 --> 00:42:02,086 "Okay, Steven." 858 00:42:02,153 --> 00:42:03,988 And sure enough, we came up with that shirt, 859 00:42:04,122 --> 00:42:04,989 and it sold like a sumbitch. 860 00:42:06,190 --> 00:42:09,227 - From that point on, when he got the chance to speak, 861 00:42:09,227 --> 00:42:10,828 there was an intensity there that you couldn't help 862 00:42:10,962 --> 00:42:13,464 but want to watch that segment. 863 00:42:13,464 --> 00:42:15,867 The way he walked, the way he stalked opponents, 864 00:42:15,867 --> 00:42:17,034 the way he looked at people. 865 00:42:17,034 --> 00:42:18,603 He had that icy glare. 866 00:42:18,669 --> 00:42:21,005 Because he was in the zone at that level, you couldn't help 867 00:42:21,072 --> 00:42:23,408 but be like, "I got to see what he's going to do." 868 00:42:23,474 --> 00:42:26,677 - Why do you keep asking me stupid questions? 869 00:42:26,677 --> 00:42:29,914 No second thought, I'll whip your asses right now. 870 00:42:29,914 --> 00:42:30,915 Shut up. 871 00:42:31,048 --> 00:42:34,185 Stone Cold never gave a rat's ass about anybody. 872 00:42:34,185 --> 00:42:36,554 I don't know what pressure is, fat boy. 873 00:42:36,621 --> 00:42:39,290 Because I got a big bunch of bananas and I can tell you where 874 00:42:39,357 --> 00:42:41,192 to stick each and every one of them. 875 00:42:41,192 --> 00:42:45,830 You ain't worth the sweat off of my- 876 00:42:45,830 --> 00:42:47,031 -brow. 877 00:42:47,031 --> 00:42:49,967 My mom used to tell me, "Steven, if you were on TV, 878 00:42:50,001 --> 00:42:52,437 I wouldn't let you watch you. 879 00:42:52,437 --> 00:42:53,771 You're a piece of garbage. 880 00:42:53,838 --> 00:42:54,872 - Oh, no. 881 00:42:54,872 --> 00:42:56,674 - So you can take your camera and stick it, son. 882 00:42:56,674 --> 00:42:59,877 I ain't leaving yet and you can stop counting me down because 883 00:42:59,977 --> 00:43:01,646 I gone and told you once, son. 884 00:43:01,712 --> 00:43:02,880 We got a damn problem. 885 00:43:02,947 --> 00:43:03,648 - Hey. 886 00:43:03,714 --> 00:43:04,415 Wait a minute. 887 00:43:04,482 --> 00:43:05,950 - No more. 888 00:43:05,950 --> 00:43:07,151 - That's a production assistant. 889 00:43:10,154 --> 00:43:12,590 - He is now the guy in the eyes of the audience, 890 00:43:12,590 --> 00:43:14,225 like he can do no wrong. 891 00:43:14,225 --> 00:43:15,426 They wanna be part of that chaos. 892 00:43:15,426 --> 00:43:16,828 They wanna be part of that energy. 893 00:43:16,961 --> 00:43:20,198 They wanna go and experience "Stone Cold" Steve Austin, 894 00:43:20,264 --> 00:43:22,667 the act live. 895 00:43:22,667 --> 00:43:24,202 - And you really start feeling that momentum because you're 896 00:43:24,268 --> 00:43:26,437 finally getting the desired response 897 00:43:26,537 --> 00:43:27,839 that you want from these people. 898 00:43:27,939 --> 00:43:29,440 So now, now that I'm-I'm getting that feedback, 899 00:43:29,507 --> 00:43:32,176 I can feed it to you. 900 00:43:32,510 --> 00:43:36,481 Throughout that period of time, I'm trying my hardest to 901 00:43:36,547 --> 00:43:39,116 entertain you or grab your heartstrings to make you feel 902 00:43:39,116 --> 00:43:41,552 what I'm feeling, channel that. 903 00:43:41,619 --> 00:43:44,589 I'm doing my damnedest to try to affect you. 904 00:43:44,589 --> 00:43:49,193 And I guess I was effective at making people feel emotions. 905 00:43:52,196 --> 00:43:54,665 - That there's a perception that Steve just came out of nowhere, 906 00:43:54,665 --> 00:43:57,969 that that's a misconception on a lot of people's parts 907 00:43:58,035 --> 00:44:01,239 Stone Cold lived within and it took ten years to come out. 908 00:44:04,242 --> 00:44:05,977 - Because if you look at that time period, 909 00:44:06,043 --> 00:44:07,945 WWE is at its lowest point. 910 00:44:08,045 --> 00:44:09,514 The only way they could have gone any lower is 911 00:44:09,514 --> 00:44:12,750 going out of business or for the company to fall apart. 912 00:44:12,750 --> 00:44:15,353 He dragged them into success. 913 00:44:15,419 --> 00:44:18,389 Austin's ascension is tied intricately 914 00:44:18,389 --> 00:44:20,158 to the ascension of WWE. 915 00:44:20,291 --> 00:44:21,459 We're coming back to life. 916 00:44:21,559 --> 00:44:22,527 The flame isn't dead. 917 00:44:27,298 --> 00:44:30,334 By 1997, Stone Cold is the hottest he's ever been. 918 00:44:30,401 --> 00:44:32,803 The company's building him as one of the biggest stars 919 00:44:32,904 --> 00:44:34,505 in their company. 920 00:44:34,605 --> 00:44:35,873 He's driving revenue. 921 00:44:35,940 --> 00:44:36,874 He's selling merchandise. 922 00:44:36,941 --> 00:44:37,975 He's making money. 923 00:44:38,609 --> 00:44:39,777 - But up next, ladies and gentlemen, 924 00:44:39,844 --> 00:44:41,946 the Intercontinental Championship matchup. 925 00:44:42,046 --> 00:44:44,081 It's Owen Hart in a title defense against 926 00:44:44,148 --> 00:44:46,717 "Stone Cold" Steve Austin. 927 00:44:46,717 --> 00:44:49,387 - Me and Owen were going to have a hell of a match. 928 00:44:49,453 --> 00:44:52,190 And we had had this plan where he'd end up hitting me with 929 00:44:52,190 --> 00:44:54,859 a tombstone pile driver. 930 00:44:54,959 --> 00:44:56,761 And I said, "You go down to your knees, right?" 931 00:44:56,827 --> 00:44:57,929 Because I'm looking for clearance. 932 00:44:57,995 --> 00:44:58,596 He goes, "No. 933 00:44:58,663 --> 00:44:59,997 I go to my ass." 934 00:44:59,997 --> 00:45:01,899 I said, "But seemed like you got to go down your knees." 935 00:45:01,999 --> 00:45:03,334 He goes, "No." 936 00:45:03,401 --> 00:45:06,737 And when Owen said this is how I do it, I trusted him because 937 00:45:06,804 --> 00:45:08,773 he's Owen Hart. 938 00:45:08,839 --> 00:45:12,843 And so anyway, we get out there and things go like they did. 939 00:45:12,843 --> 00:45:16,514 And, man, when he goes to his ass, and my head is sticking out 940 00:45:16,581 --> 00:45:19,016 about six inches below his ass. 941 00:45:19,083 --> 00:45:22,620 And, boy, I got spiked on the mat, and it was not good. 942 00:45:22,720 --> 00:45:25,489 - Let's see what Austin can do with-- No. 943 00:45:25,556 --> 00:45:26,791 How about that 944 00:45:26,791 --> 00:45:28,392 - A gutwrench. Tombstone. 945 00:45:28,459 --> 00:45:30,161 Tombstone Piledriver. 946 00:45:30,161 --> 00:45:31,362 Shades of The Undertaker. 947 00:45:34,865 --> 00:45:36,667 - Yeah, it-it was gnarly. 948 00:45:36,734 --> 00:45:39,804 You could tell immediately that Steve was, you know, 949 00:45:39,804 --> 00:45:41,172 that he was injured. 950 00:45:41,238 --> 00:45:44,609 - I'm afraid Austin is hurt. 951 00:45:44,675 --> 00:45:49,880 - It sounded like someone hit a big gong and it was my skull, 952 00:45:49,947 --> 00:45:52,483 you know, striking that damn ring dead center in the middle. 953 00:45:55,720 --> 00:45:58,155 And then I didn't feel anything because I'm laying there 954 00:45:58,222 --> 00:45:59,357 and I'm paralyzed. 955 00:45:59,457 --> 00:46:02,360 And I was like, man, on one hand, I could have freaked out 956 00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:05,363 and got scared, but instead I remained calm. 957 00:46:05,429 --> 00:46:07,798 I was like, "Don't touch me. 958 00:46:07,798 --> 00:46:09,000 I can't move." 959 00:46:09,066 --> 00:46:10,434 And so, he starts buying time because I think I'm never going 960 00:46:10,501 --> 00:46:11,669 to move again. 961 00:46:15,006 --> 00:46:18,276 - As soon as he got injured, I called his wife up. 962 00:46:18,342 --> 00:46:22,747 I said, "Did he really get hurt, or is this a show?" 963 00:46:22,847 --> 00:46:25,683 She said, "No, he-he really got hurt." 964 00:46:25,683 --> 00:46:27,585 It was 1997. 965 00:46:27,652 --> 00:46:33,357 To this day, I-I-I cry about it every time I hear about it. 966 00:46:33,357 --> 00:46:35,393 - I'm thinking, I got to get out of this match. 967 00:46:35,459 --> 00:46:37,228 I got to get out of this match so we can go back. 968 00:46:37,294 --> 00:46:42,066 And Earl Hebner is our referee in that match. 969 00:46:42,133 --> 00:46:43,968 And I told Earl, I said, "Tell him, roll up for the win." 970 00:46:43,968 --> 00:46:45,369 I thought I could start moving my arms and legs. 971 00:46:45,436 --> 00:46:49,640 And when I tried to, if you go back and watch that, it's like 972 00:46:49,707 --> 00:46:50,841 my knees are creaking to get in a crawl position. 973 00:46:50,908 --> 00:46:52,410 And I can't crawl like this because my hands don't work. 974 00:46:52,476 --> 00:46:55,946 So I had to crawl using my forearms. 975 00:46:59,283 --> 00:47:05,122 And I give him the initial thing, and he goes with me, 976 00:47:05,122 --> 00:47:06,223 and he doesn't try to fight it. 977 00:47:06,324 --> 00:47:07,658 It's the worst roll up in the history of the business. 978 00:47:07,758 --> 00:47:10,861 And, man, I am- I am gone. 979 00:47:10,961 --> 00:47:14,098 I've been, you know, I'm quadriplegic for 60 seconds 980 00:47:14,198 --> 00:47:16,267 and my world has been turned upside down. 981 00:47:16,334 --> 00:47:18,569 The referees come to the ring and they-- 982 00:47:18,569 --> 00:47:21,038 Three of them help me up. 983 00:47:21,105 --> 00:47:24,608 I got my arms around their shoulders, and I-I pull them off 984 00:47:24,608 --> 00:47:25,876 because I wanna get up, and I wanna address that crowd 985 00:47:25,876 --> 00:47:27,111 and hold up that belt. 986 00:47:27,211 --> 00:47:28,646 And only reason I held up that belt was to signal to that crowd 987 00:47:28,713 --> 00:47:31,082 that, "Hey, man, I'm cool." 988 00:47:31,148 --> 00:47:33,984 And, man, when you look at that, my eyes are open, 989 00:47:34,085 --> 00:47:37,688 but I'm worlds away. 990 00:47:37,755 --> 00:47:40,424 The referees help me to the back and as I'm walking, this leg 991 00:47:40,524 --> 00:47:44,161 is dragging behind me quite a bit because of my nerve damage. 992 00:47:45,796 --> 00:47:49,967 - I watched Steve stand up on legs that he couldn't feel. 993 00:47:50,034 --> 00:47:55,372 I don't know how in the hell still 994 00:47:55,439 --> 00:47:57,441 that he was able to get up. 995 00:47:57,508 --> 00:48:02,246 That's the will that supersedes what the body can do. 996 00:48:02,313 --> 00:48:03,514 - Everybody thought I broke my neck. 997 00:48:03,581 --> 00:48:04,548 I didn't break my neck. 998 00:48:04,648 --> 00:48:05,483 I bruised my spinal cord. 999 00:48:05,549 --> 00:48:07,151 I'm a pretty tough guy. 1000 00:48:07,151 --> 00:48:13,190 On that night, I was 1% tough and 99% lucky. 1001 00:48:13,190 --> 00:48:16,160 You know, and that's-that's why I get a little bit emotional 1002 00:48:16,227 --> 00:48:19,964 about it because if-if anything would have went any differently, 1003 00:48:20,030 --> 00:48:21,265 I'd have been in a wheelchair. 1004 00:48:21,332 --> 00:48:22,867 I wouldn't be sitting here talking to you. 1005 00:48:22,933 --> 00:48:26,237 Nothing that ever happened after that would have happened. 1006 00:48:26,237 --> 00:48:27,805 Everything was on the line. 1007 00:48:27,872 --> 00:48:28,973 - Where's the ambulance? 1008 00:48:29,039 --> 00:48:30,808 Where's the ambulance team? 1009 00:48:30,875 --> 00:48:32,476 - Ambulance. 1010 00:48:32,476 --> 00:48:34,345 You want to just call 911 or what? 1011 00:48:34,445 --> 00:48:37,414 Get the medics. 1012 00:48:38,849 --> 00:48:40,384 - I was putting a pair of shorts on and I was sitting up there 1013 00:48:40,484 --> 00:48:44,989 against the wall, and I was like, well, I was shaking. 1014 00:48:45,055 --> 00:48:47,424 I kinda started crying a little bit because it scared me. 1015 00:48:47,491 --> 00:48:49,560 It scared me so bad. 1016 00:48:49,627 --> 00:48:52,797 - I think an injury of that magnitude makes us question 1017 00:48:52,897 --> 00:48:54,799 our own mortality, and that's not something 1018 00:48:54,799 --> 00:48:57,535 we're often faced with. 1019 00:49:00,404 --> 00:49:03,407 - And I remember I-I passed the test in the hospital, 1020 00:49:03,474 --> 00:49:07,411 but the doctor said, you know, "You're pretty --" 1021 00:49:07,878 --> 00:49:09,747 Initially, Dr. Torg said, 1022 00:49:09,847 --> 00:49:12,249 "Man, you're not getting back in a ring." 1023 00:49:12,316 --> 00:49:14,351 And it's easy for a doctor to sit there and tell me, 1024 00:49:14,418 --> 00:49:16,387 "Maybe you ought to think about doing something else." 1025 00:49:16,454 --> 00:49:20,191 But this is what Steve Austin has done for- does for a living. 1026 00:49:20,191 --> 00:49:21,759 I've done it for eight years. 1027 00:49:21,759 --> 00:49:24,195 Austin 3:16 started a year and a half ago, 1028 00:49:24,261 --> 00:49:26,330 and I ain't ready to give that up for nobody, 1029 00:49:26,397 --> 00:49:28,365 and no one's gonna run me out of wrestling. 1030 00:49:28,432 --> 00:49:31,402 And there ain't a doctor in the world that can make me quit. 1031 00:49:31,468 --> 00:49:35,706 It took me long enough to get to the top, and you get to the top, 1032 00:49:35,806 --> 00:49:37,808 and it's like, man, you're riding- you're riding 1033 00:49:37,875 --> 00:49:41,445 the lightning bolt and you're going 100 miles an hour. 1034 00:49:41,445 --> 00:49:43,714 Then all of a sudden, man, out of nowhere, 1035 00:49:43,781 --> 00:49:46,083 you come to a screeching halt. 1036 00:49:46,083 --> 00:49:48,786 - Here was his opportunity he worked so hard for 1037 00:49:48,853 --> 00:49:52,823 and like that could all be over. 1038 00:49:54,425 --> 00:49:57,361 - And after that bad injury, my anterior delts were on fire for, 1039 00:49:57,428 --> 00:50:00,197 like, a couple of weeks. 1040 00:50:00,297 --> 00:50:01,632 I mean, like, someone put icy hot on them. 1041 00:50:01,699 --> 00:50:03,367 It was the weirdest thing 1042 00:50:03,434 --> 00:50:05,202 and I didn't think it was ever going to stop. 1043 00:50:05,269 --> 00:50:07,071 And it turned into an itch. 1044 00:50:07,171 --> 00:50:10,474 And then finally it went away. 1045 00:50:13,277 --> 00:50:16,046 And like, when I took that piledriver back in the day, 1046 00:50:16,113 --> 00:50:17,848 when those refs are carrying me out, 1047 00:50:17,915 --> 00:50:21,018 you can watch my left leg kind of dragging behind me. 1048 00:50:21,118 --> 00:50:22,119 - It's hard to watch. 1049 00:50:22,219 --> 00:50:23,988 - So, like, if I get cold, you know, that-that leg 1050 00:50:24,054 --> 00:50:25,823 will kind of-- 1051 00:50:25,923 --> 00:50:27,024 - Oh, wow. 1052 00:50:27,124 --> 00:50:30,127 - It just doesn't respond the same and, you know, just-- 1053 00:50:30,194 --> 00:50:32,997 When you-when you-when you bruise your spinal cord 1054 00:50:32,997 --> 00:50:33,998 and bad stuff happens, 1055 00:50:34,098 --> 00:50:36,200 it just- it doesn't reverse. 1056 00:50:36,267 --> 00:50:41,505 So, um, I've got some atrophy and stuff like that. 1057 00:50:44,642 --> 00:50:46,844 Coming out of pro-wrestling business I asked the guys 1058 00:50:46,944 --> 00:50:49,246 that are 5 years older than me and 10 years older than me, 1059 00:50:49,313 --> 00:50:50,881 "Hey, man, how are you feeling?" 1060 00:50:50,948 --> 00:50:53,317 So I kinda know what's next, you know, 1061 00:50:53,417 --> 00:50:54,718 or what they're going through because I know 1062 00:50:54,718 --> 00:50:57,321 they've been through the same -- that I have. 1063 00:50:57,388 --> 00:50:58,956 I've never had any neck pain. 1064 00:50:59,023 --> 00:51:00,558 You know, everybody always thinks, "Hey, man, 1065 00:51:00,558 --> 00:51:02,826 Steve got dropped on his head and he got a fusion. 1066 00:51:02,893 --> 00:51:04,595 His neck's all jacked up." 1067 00:51:04,662 --> 00:51:05,863 Man, I feel good. 1068 00:51:05,963 --> 00:51:08,232 You know, every now and then, if I'm sitting around too long, 1069 00:51:08,299 --> 00:51:09,366 I'll get a little gimped up. 1070 00:51:09,433 --> 00:51:10,834 Just got to stretch it a little bit. 1071 00:51:10,901 --> 00:51:13,003 But I really can't complain about anything through 1072 00:51:13,003 --> 00:51:16,206 all the surgeries and just the wear and tear of the road 1073 00:51:16,206 --> 00:51:19,043 for-for what it's worth through all the stuff. 1074 00:51:19,109 --> 00:51:20,110 I feel good. 1075 00:51:21,312 --> 00:51:24,114 - To WWE's credit, Steve's credit, they managed to take 1076 00:51:24,181 --> 00:51:27,751 that injury and he became even bigger. 1077 00:51:28,519 --> 00:51:30,354 - It has been said that anything can happen here 1078 00:51:30,421 --> 00:51:33,490 in the World Wrestling Entertainment, but now more 1079 00:51:33,557 --> 00:51:34,758 than ever, truer words have never been spoken. 1080 00:51:34,825 --> 00:51:37,161 This is a conscious effort on our part to open the creative 1081 00:51:37,227 --> 00:51:39,797 envelope, so to speak, in order to entertain you 1082 00:51:39,797 --> 00:51:41,832 in a more contemporary manner. 1083 00:51:41,899 --> 00:51:45,336 - For me, the start of the attitude era was the day 1084 00:51:45,402 --> 00:51:50,608 in late 1997 when Mr. McMahon addressed the roster, 1085 00:51:50,674 --> 00:51:53,811 admitted that the old days were gone, 1086 00:51:53,877 --> 00:51:56,246 and that if we were going to succeed, 1087 00:51:56,246 --> 00:51:59,683 we would have to put our own personal emphasis 1088 00:51:59,683 --> 00:52:01,885 into these characters. 1089 00:52:01,952 --> 00:52:05,823 - The attitude era is a point in time in pro wrestling history 1090 00:52:05,923 --> 00:52:09,193 where WWE got a lot edgier. 1091 00:52:12,696 --> 00:52:15,432 It becomes violent, it becomes chaotic. 1092 00:52:15,499 --> 00:52:17,368 They pushed sexuality with women. 1093 00:52:17,434 --> 00:52:22,606 They pushed storylines that were blatantly over the top. 1094 00:52:22,673 --> 00:52:23,774 - Get that mic out of my face. 1095 00:52:23,841 --> 00:52:25,909 - Everybody felt this interesting shift that was 1096 00:52:26,010 --> 00:52:29,847 happening in wrestling and that seismic shift now was away from 1097 00:52:29,847 --> 00:52:33,384 the cartoon era, the superhero era, if you will, 1098 00:52:33,484 --> 00:52:39,523 in pro wrestling into an edgier, reality-based program. 1099 00:52:39,590 --> 00:52:43,193 - The attitude era was era of reality, the era of pushing 1100 00:52:43,260 --> 00:52:46,130 the limits as far as we could. 1101 00:52:46,830 --> 00:52:49,066 It's the golden era. 1102 00:52:50,834 --> 00:52:53,771 - The attitude era, a lot of it was blending 1103 00:52:53,837 --> 00:52:55,706 reality and fiction. 1104 00:52:55,806 --> 00:52:59,243 It was more real and more versions of ourselves, 1105 00:52:59,343 --> 00:53:01,011 just with the volume turned way up. 1106 00:53:01,078 --> 00:53:03,347 Suck it. 1107 00:53:03,447 --> 00:53:07,284 - I would imagine doing the suck it probably caused more 1108 00:53:07,351 --> 00:53:12,956 suspensions and detentions in school than any other thing 1109 00:53:12,956 --> 00:53:15,125 in the history of school in America. 1110 00:53:15,192 --> 00:53:17,961 - We saw the very best in what people had to offer. 1111 00:53:18,028 --> 00:53:19,430 - It's Austin. 1112 00:53:19,430 --> 00:53:22,299 - And Steve happened to have been the best of all of us 1113 00:53:22,399 --> 00:53:23,967 at bringing that to the plate. 1114 00:53:24,001 --> 00:53:27,404 He was in a different stratosphere. 1115 00:53:27,404 --> 00:53:29,807 - It was the era of holy --. 1116 00:53:29,807 --> 00:53:33,210 Steve's glass was the soundtrack to holy --. 1117 00:53:33,277 --> 00:53:38,415 [Stone Cold's music plays] 1118 00:53:38,482 --> 00:53:41,752 No matter what was happening, "Holy --." 1119 00:53:41,819 --> 00:53:42,720 Right? 1120 00:53:42,786 --> 00:53:43,821 Like, that was the moment. 1121 00:53:43,921 --> 00:53:45,789 I'm getting goosebumps right now talking about it. 1122 00:53:45,856 --> 00:53:50,561 [Stone Cold's music plays] 1123 00:53:50,627 --> 00:53:54,698 - Whether it's arena of-of 2,000 or 20,000 or 100,000, they know 1124 00:53:54,798 --> 00:53:57,367 when that glass breaks, there's a sumbitch coming out there 1125 00:53:57,434 --> 00:53:59,603 to deal out a can of whoop ass. 1126 00:54:02,306 --> 00:54:05,409 - When that glass broke, here he came with his whole head 1127 00:54:05,476 --> 00:54:07,845 bouncing, you know, and he's saying whatever he's saying 1128 00:54:07,845 --> 00:54:11,215 under his breath, and you just see that attitude. 1129 00:54:14,084 --> 00:54:17,020 - I remember the first time I heard that glass break and I saw 1130 00:54:17,121 --> 00:54:20,557 him walk down to the ring, it was the first time that I ever 1131 00:54:20,557 --> 00:54:22,793 got goosebumps in my entire life. 1132 00:54:22,860 --> 00:54:26,563 20,000, 40,000, 60,000 people were going absolutely insane. 1133 00:54:26,630 --> 00:54:28,565 I said, I wanna be like that guy. 1134 00:54:28,632 --> 00:54:32,803 In that moment I said, I need to be a pro wrestler. 1135 00:54:32,803 --> 00:54:36,807 - That was the walk of a guy who had been down the road, paid his 1136 00:54:36,807 --> 00:54:40,878 dues, learned the business, and got over despite what anybody 1137 00:54:40,878 --> 00:54:43,247 else thought about him, this guy's not marketable. 1138 00:54:43,313 --> 00:54:44,882 He's never gonna draw no money. 1139 00:54:44,948 --> 00:54:46,450 The company finally picked me 1140 00:54:46,517 --> 00:54:48,519 and that's the guy walking to the ring. 1141 00:54:49,786 --> 00:54:51,421 - The character of "Stone Cold" Steve Austin 1142 00:54:51,522 --> 00:54:53,757 was a very reality-based persona, 1143 00:54:53,857 --> 00:54:56,360 which is not what this industry was built on. 1144 00:54:56,426 --> 00:55:00,230 So, the whole attitude era that was ushered in was ushered 1145 00:55:00,230 --> 00:55:05,802 in as an extension of the personality that was brought out 1146 00:55:05,869 --> 00:55:08,839 by "Stone Cold" Steve Austin. 1147 00:55:08,906 --> 00:55:13,644 And that makes him, in many ways, the most pivotal 1148 00:55:13,744 --> 00:55:18,682 human being and character in pro wrestling history. 1149 00:55:18,849 --> 00:55:20,484 Now we have to go a little bit higher. 1150 00:55:20,484 --> 00:55:21,952 Now we have to go a little bit bigger. 1151 00:55:26,123 --> 00:55:28,992 - In this upcoming act, you'll see a more extended version 1152 00:55:29,059 --> 00:55:32,429 of the Vince-Steve rivalry and relationship. 1153 00:55:32,496 --> 00:55:36,600 And when Steve talks about the moment when that all started, 1154 00:55:36,667 --> 00:55:40,270 he really lights up because he got to physically 1155 00:55:40,370 --> 00:55:41,972 interact with his boss. 1156 00:55:41,972 --> 00:55:44,208 And for anybody, if you like your boss 1157 00:55:44,274 --> 00:55:46,810 or you don't like your boss, it still as appealing 1158 00:55:46,877 --> 00:55:50,347 and exciting to think about what it would be like. 1159 00:55:50,447 --> 00:55:54,084 But I think, two, it was the start of the biggest moment 1160 00:55:54,151 --> 00:55:57,187 of his career, his rivalry with Vince McMahon 1161 00:55:57,254 --> 00:55:58,989 transcended wrestling. 1162 00:55:59,056 --> 00:56:01,758 People would tune into wrestling to watch what's going to happen 1163 00:56:01,825 --> 00:56:03,327 with Steve and Vince. 1164 00:56:03,393 --> 00:56:05,596 - You can kiss my ass. 1165 00:56:09,533 --> 00:56:11,468 - And Steve looks back on that time fondly because it 1166 00:56:11,568 --> 00:56:15,405 worked out, and it was exactly what the WWE needed at the time. 1167 00:56:15,472 --> 00:56:17,874 And I think Steve is proud of that interaction. 1168 00:56:17,941 --> 00:56:19,810 And I think that when he looks back on those moments, 1169 00:56:19,876 --> 00:56:21,478 it's nothing but good memories because 1170 00:56:21,545 --> 00:56:23,614 of how successful the rivalry was. 1171 00:56:29,253 --> 00:56:32,923 - Welcome everyone to the world's most famous arena, 1172 00:56:32,990 --> 00:56:35,926 Madison Square Garden. 1173 00:56:35,993 --> 00:56:40,364 - Vince knew if I stunned his -- in Madison Square Garden, 1174 00:56:40,430 --> 00:56:43,600 people would go ballistic. 1175 00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:45,402 - What's the matter with you? 1176 00:56:45,469 --> 00:56:48,739 - At that time, I don't believe Steve had ever put his hands 1177 00:56:48,805 --> 00:56:53,844 on Vince and it was so taboo to put your hands on your boss. 1178 00:56:53,910 --> 00:56:55,946 - In other words, you simply-- 1179 00:56:56,046 --> 00:56:58,348 You got to work within the system. 1180 00:56:58,448 --> 00:56:59,850 And I thought, wow, 1181 00:56:59,850 --> 00:57:03,186 this is really going to work and work big. 1182 00:57:03,253 --> 00:57:06,156 - If that's what it takes to make you 1183 00:57:06,223 --> 00:57:09,459 or the World Wrestling Entertainment happy, 1184 00:57:09,559 --> 00:57:11,795 I'll work within your stupid little system. 1185 00:57:11,862 --> 00:57:15,332 - I remember crowding around the monitor that night at the Garden 1186 00:57:15,399 --> 00:57:18,135 when Steve finally stunned Mr. McMahon. 1187 00:57:20,604 --> 00:57:23,140 - Oh, God. 1188 00:57:23,140 --> 00:57:26,910 Austin just stunned Mr. McMahon. 1189 00:57:27,010 --> 00:57:29,079 - You saw Steve being rebellious against everybody, 1190 00:57:29,146 --> 00:57:33,650 including the off-limits people, you know, Vince. 1191 00:57:33,717 --> 00:57:34,885 Oh, my God. 1192 00:57:34,952 --> 00:57:36,386 He touched Vince McMahon. 1193 00:57:36,453 --> 00:57:38,121 - Put him in jail. 1194 00:57:38,188 --> 00:57:40,490 Put him in jail right now. 1195 00:57:41,625 --> 00:57:44,761 - I thought it was premier, hokey as --. 1196 00:57:44,828 --> 00:57:46,997 but premier. 1197 00:57:47,064 --> 00:57:50,500 - Vince McMahon is out. 1198 00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:53,970 - The stunner in Madison Square Garden started it all because 1199 00:57:54,037 --> 00:57:56,840 we almost botched it. 1200 00:57:56,907 --> 00:57:58,442 I remember kicking him in the gut. 1201 00:57:58,508 --> 00:58:00,043 He'd bent over and I grabbed his head, and almost slipped out. 1202 00:58:00,110 --> 00:58:03,447 And we're going down. 1203 00:58:03,447 --> 00:58:05,716 I'm like, aw. 1204 00:58:05,782 --> 00:58:07,918 I won't say we nailed it, but we did it. 1205 00:58:07,984 --> 00:58:12,289 And so, the roof blew off the place. 1206 00:58:15,726 --> 00:58:18,795 - I thought Steve broke his larynx because Vince 1207 00:58:18,862 --> 00:58:19,663 went straight down. 1208 00:58:19,763 --> 00:58:20,831 Oh, my gosh. 1209 00:58:20,897 --> 00:58:22,065 All of us in the back were looking. 1210 00:58:22,165 --> 00:58:23,700 We're like, "Oh, my God." 1211 00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:25,769 Like, "Check on him," we sent the medical guys. 1212 00:58:25,836 --> 00:58:28,238 Literally, I thought he popped his larynx. 1213 00:58:29,639 --> 00:58:34,010 - Stone Cold just dropped the owner of WWE. 1214 00:58:34,077 --> 00:58:38,515 There ain't nobody safe when Steve Austin is in town. 1215 00:58:41,318 --> 00:58:44,388 - Vince went down like a piece of cooked spaghetti. 1216 00:58:44,454 --> 00:58:48,225 It was funny and, uh, quite enjoyable for a lot of laughs 1217 00:58:48,325 --> 00:58:51,528 for a few months after that with the boys. 1218 00:58:52,028 --> 00:58:53,630 - It's not like we went out and practiced it. 1219 00:58:53,697 --> 00:58:55,365 And his motor skills are a little bit different than one 1220 00:58:55,365 --> 00:58:57,768 of the boys who's in the ring every night. 1221 00:58:57,768 --> 00:59:00,470 We just assumed that he knew how to do it 1222 00:59:00,570 --> 00:59:02,906 because he's seen a bunch of them. 1223 00:59:05,642 --> 00:59:09,579 - I am the worst performer in the world in terms 1224 00:59:09,579 --> 00:59:10,680 of taking that stunner. 1225 00:59:10,747 --> 00:59:12,916 I still don't know how to do it. 1226 00:59:17,421 --> 00:59:19,523 - The worst person to ever take the stunner is Vince McMahon 1227 00:59:19,523 --> 00:59:22,092 because he's not a very coordinated person, 1228 00:59:22,159 --> 00:59:25,996 and he knows it just as well as I do. 1229 00:59:27,497 --> 00:59:30,767 - It was- it was ugly. 1230 00:59:31,835 --> 00:59:33,570 - Stunner, stunner. 1231 00:59:33,637 --> 00:59:36,106 Austin stuns McMahon. 1232 00:59:36,206 --> 00:59:38,575 - The worst I've ever seen. 1233 00:59:39,810 --> 00:59:42,045 - The fact that Vince took the worst stunner of all time 1234 00:59:42,112 --> 00:59:43,713 didn't even seem to matter 1235 00:59:43,780 --> 00:59:45,849 because everyone saw what they wanted to see. 1236 00:59:45,849 --> 00:59:47,884 They saw Steve stun the boss, 1237 00:59:47,951 --> 00:59:49,920 which is what everybody had wanted. 1238 00:59:58,161 --> 01:00:00,664 - Vince may have taken a bowling shoe, ugly stunner. 1239 01:00:00,764 --> 01:00:03,800 But of all the stunners that Steve delivered, the ones 1240 01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:06,236 to Mr. McMahon are, quite frankly, 1241 01:00:06,303 --> 01:00:08,839 arguably the most memorable. 1242 01:00:08,905 --> 01:00:11,007 - Stunner. 1243 01:00:11,007 --> 01:00:13,276 - Stunner. 1244 01:00:14,845 --> 01:00:17,481 - Vince McMahon just got stunned out of his shoes. 1245 01:00:17,547 --> 01:00:19,549 - It was entertaining to see Steve Austin 1246 01:00:19,649 --> 01:00:21,852 kick the crap out of Mr. McMahon. 1247 01:00:21,918 --> 01:00:22,719 - Why did he do that? 1248 01:00:22,786 --> 01:00:24,421 What for? 1249 01:00:24,521 --> 01:00:26,957 - Out of all the people that I gave a stunner to, I always 1250 01:00:27,023 --> 01:00:30,827 loved stunning Vince because of what it stood for, you know, 1251 01:00:30,894 --> 01:00:33,263 me stunning him, him being my boss, 1252 01:00:33,363 --> 01:00:36,099 and the evil things that he was trying to do to me. 1253 01:00:42,706 --> 01:00:46,209 - Stone Cold's success in the attitude era can be attributed 1254 01:00:46,276 --> 01:00:48,478 to many people. 1255 01:00:48,545 --> 01:00:54,684 But in order for your star hero to become successful, 1256 01:00:54,684 --> 01:00:59,322 he has to have real viable villains. 1257 01:01:00,123 --> 01:01:02,559 Vince McMahon was the greatest villain 1258 01:01:02,626 --> 01:01:05,128 in the attitude era bar none. 1259 01:01:07,297 --> 01:01:10,967 - Vince could show up in some way, take away like that thing 1260 01:01:11,034 --> 01:01:14,971 that you desperately wanted as a fan, and it drove me insane. 1261 01:01:15,038 --> 01:01:17,207 And that's why the attitude error was so popular, 1262 01:01:17,274 --> 01:01:21,111 was that Vince versus Stone Cold rivalry. 1263 01:01:21,211 --> 01:01:25,081 - Vince and I were tailor-made for each other to work together. 1264 01:01:25,148 --> 01:01:27,884 Vince was unique because he was the owner. 1265 01:01:27,951 --> 01:01:29,085 Now he's feuding with me. 1266 01:01:29,085 --> 01:01:30,787 It's a real storyline. 1267 01:01:30,854 --> 01:01:32,422 You can kiss my ass. 1268 01:01:40,297 --> 01:01:42,666 All of a sudden, it wasn't just about wrestling. 1269 01:01:42,732 --> 01:01:47,370 It was about this guy who is an employee against his boss, 1270 01:01:47,437 --> 01:01:50,507 and everybody's an employee that has a boss. 1271 01:01:50,607 --> 01:01:52,576 And a lot of times, the employee has not liked 1272 01:01:52,642 --> 01:01:54,678 what the boss has done or said to him. 1273 01:01:54,744 --> 01:01:56,246 - Screw you. 1274 01:01:56,313 --> 01:01:58,648 You're fired. 1275 01:01:58,648 --> 01:02:01,151 - Vince is crazy and he really is. 1276 01:02:01,484 --> 01:02:05,422 That stuff is not far from what Vince would do 1277 01:02:05,522 --> 01:02:07,924 as to what Mr. McMahon did. 1278 01:02:07,924 --> 01:02:12,996 - Mr. McMahon is a character no way in the world like-like me. 1279 01:02:13,063 --> 01:02:14,631 We'll start with that. 1280 01:02:14,698 --> 01:02:16,166 Um, but he's arrogant. 1281 01:02:16,232 --> 01:02:23,406 I am a handsome, affluent entrepreneur. 1282 01:02:23,473 --> 01:02:24,407 He's rich. 1283 01:02:24,474 --> 01:02:26,610 I said, black tie. 1284 01:02:26,610 --> 01:02:28,878 He can treat people like crap. 1285 01:02:28,945 --> 01:02:32,148 The thought of you, Austin, makes me physically ill, 1286 01:02:32,248 --> 01:02:33,917 makes me wanna vomit. 1287 01:02:34,818 --> 01:02:37,787 - Everyday people saw something of themselves in Steve, and they 1288 01:02:37,854 --> 01:02:41,491 saw Mr. McMahon as the system that was holding them down. 1289 01:02:41,558 --> 01:02:44,361 - Nobody, especially Vince McMahon, 1290 01:02:44,427 --> 01:02:47,964 tells Stone Cold Steve Austin what to do. 1291 01:02:47,964 --> 01:02:50,300 And that's the bottom line. 1292 01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:52,369 - It was the consummate working-class hero, 1293 01:02:52,369 --> 01:02:56,439 "Stone Cold" Steve Austin against the machine. 1294 01:02:58,942 --> 01:03:02,612 Steve was the rage against the machine. 1295 01:03:02,612 --> 01:03:04,347 - The Rattlesnake is here. 1296 01:03:04,447 --> 01:03:05,148 Oh, my God. 1297 01:03:05,248 --> 01:03:06,449 I don't believe this. 1298 01:03:06,449 --> 01:03:08,785 That's one of the Corvettes of Mr. McMahon's collections. 1299 01:03:08,885 --> 01:03:10,954 - That's a $50,000 car. 1300 01:03:11,021 --> 01:03:14,524 - At that time, everybody wanted to be Stone Cold Steve Austin. 1301 01:03:14,591 --> 01:03:20,363 He captured everybody's feelings perfectly. 1302 01:03:20,363 --> 01:03:26,436 - You are the world's dumbest son of a bitch. 1303 01:03:26,503 --> 01:03:28,238 Vince was like a kid in a candy store getting to work 1304 01:03:28,304 --> 01:03:31,374 with me because he always wanted to be a wrestler. 1305 01:03:31,441 --> 01:03:33,643 He finally got a chance to perform, 1306 01:03:33,710 --> 01:03:36,146 not just oversee and give instructions. 1307 01:03:36,246 --> 01:03:39,115 If you go back, man, you watch some of the blue jeans I wore, 1308 01:03:39,182 --> 01:03:41,985 some of the shorts I wore would get ringing tight. 1309 01:03:42,085 --> 01:03:44,988 I couldn't physically pick my leg up high enough. 1310 01:03:45,055 --> 01:03:46,890 Always the target is the gut. 1311 01:03:46,956 --> 01:03:48,792 But when you can't pick your leg up high enough, 1312 01:03:48,858 --> 01:03:51,261 right below the stomach is the testicles. 1313 01:03:51,361 --> 01:03:52,929 - He didn't know where those kicks were going. 1314 01:03:52,996 --> 01:03:55,365 We really- I had no idea. 1315 01:03:55,365 --> 01:03:56,332 He had no idea. 1316 01:03:56,332 --> 01:03:57,500 He was going to make contact with something 1317 01:03:57,600 --> 01:03:59,169 that was in front of him. 1318 01:03:59,235 --> 01:04:04,874 - So many times I kicked him right the jewels and he just go, 1319 01:04:04,941 --> 01:04:06,810 "God damn it, Steve." 1320 01:04:06,810 --> 01:04:09,979 - You know, if Steve kicks you in the Netherlands or something 1321 01:04:09,979 --> 01:04:14,884 like that, it's easy to sell that. 1322 01:04:15,752 --> 01:04:17,921 - We had to keep upping the game a little bit, so- 1323 01:04:17,987 --> 01:04:19,122 - Stone Cold! 1324 01:04:19,122 --> 01:04:22,125 - What could Stone Cold do to up the ante? 1325 01:04:22,125 --> 01:04:23,760 We had boards of stuff. 1326 01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:24,994 - What the hell can Steve do? 1327 01:04:25,061 --> 01:04:25,862 Something crazy. 1328 01:04:25,962 --> 01:04:26,930 I don't know. 1329 01:04:26,996 --> 01:04:29,599 Drive a Zamboni to the ring? 1330 01:04:29,666 --> 01:04:33,336 Seriously, that's how it happened. 1331 01:04:33,837 --> 01:04:38,641 - This Zamboni incident, we did Vince in the hospital. 1332 01:04:38,708 --> 01:04:40,977 - There you see, Mr. McMahon via satellite. 1333 01:04:41,044 --> 01:04:42,579 - I want apple juice. 1334 01:04:42,645 --> 01:04:43,913 - Oh, man, that was a great one. 1335 01:04:43,980 --> 01:04:45,115 So I go out there. 1336 01:04:45,181 --> 01:04:46,449 - How about you, Doctor? 1337 01:04:46,516 --> 01:04:50,987 - Oh, I'll take it from here, nurse. 1338 01:04:51,054 --> 01:04:51,821 And I said, "Man, I'm worried about hitting you 1339 01:04:51,921 --> 01:04:53,189 with that bed pan." 1340 01:04:53,256 --> 01:04:54,924 Because that was stainless steel bed pan. 1341 01:04:54,924 --> 01:04:56,693 Man, that sumbitch is hard. 1342 01:04:56,693 --> 01:04:58,795 He said, "God damn, Steve, you got to." 1343 01:04:58,862 --> 01:05:00,830 - And I'm watching Steve, and he's walking up 1344 01:05:00,897 --> 01:05:03,266 and down the hallway hospital. 1345 01:05:03,333 --> 01:05:06,970 And he's hitting his head with the damn bed pan. 1346 01:05:07,036 --> 01:05:08,938 - I was kinda just bouncing it. 1347 01:05:09,005 --> 01:05:11,808 When you hit people with objects for a living, you become 1348 01:05:11,808 --> 01:05:15,879 an expert at hitting people, you know, with objects for a living. 1349 01:05:15,945 --> 01:05:18,414 So when I swung it, boy, I just reached up and grabbed it, 1350 01:05:18,481 --> 01:05:22,986 and nailed him with it. 1351 01:05:23,052 --> 01:05:25,121 - It ain't ballet as the expression goes, you know. 1352 01:05:25,121 --> 01:05:26,156 - Help me please. 1353 01:05:26,222 --> 01:05:27,323 - This is going to hurt you a lot more than 1354 01:05:27,323 --> 01:05:28,124 this is going to hurt me. 1355 01:05:28,191 --> 01:05:28,958 [yelling] 1356 01:05:29,025 --> 01:05:29,959 - I love Vince. 1357 01:05:30,026 --> 01:05:32,796 The guy would do absolutely anything for me 1358 01:05:32,862 --> 01:05:35,031 and I would for him too. 1359 01:05:35,098 --> 01:05:37,400 - Again, every now and then, someone very special 1360 01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:41,871 would come along and um Steve is that guy. 1361 01:05:41,971 --> 01:05:43,807 - Man, there's a period there where everything we did 1362 01:05:43,873 --> 01:05:46,409 was a home run and a grand slam. 1363 01:05:46,476 --> 01:05:50,013 And if you had a double or triple, that was a bad day. 1364 01:05:51,481 --> 01:05:54,284 - At his peak, Steve was one of the most recognizable 1365 01:05:54,284 --> 01:05:56,986 faces in the world. 1366 01:05:59,923 --> 01:06:03,660 - Austin 3:16 shirts were now in Spencer's Gifts 1367 01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:06,362 and Hot Topic, and Walmart. 1368 01:06:06,362 --> 01:06:10,800 And you go in Foley's or Macy's and there's Austin 3:16. 1369 01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:13,036 It was everywhere. 1370 01:06:13,102 --> 01:06:14,370 - And of course, you know, he had one quarter 1371 01:06:14,437 --> 01:06:16,206 where he made a million dollars selling t-shirts. 1372 01:06:16,272 --> 01:06:19,676 - If you look at any sales chart Steve Austin's t-shirts 1373 01:06:19,742 --> 01:06:23,346 are still amongst the best sellers in WWE to this day. 1374 01:06:24,781 --> 01:06:26,649 - Well, it first hit me when me and my wife 1375 01:06:26,716 --> 01:06:28,084 went out to Las Vegas. 1376 01:06:28,151 --> 01:06:30,353 Every single person I saw walking the streets, 1377 01:06:30,420 --> 01:06:33,323 everybody has Steve Austin t-shirts on. 1378 01:06:33,323 --> 01:06:34,791 It's crazy. 1379 01:06:39,295 --> 01:06:42,265 - If you turned on the TV, all of the night shows. 1380 01:06:42,365 --> 01:06:45,869 - Please welcome, Stone Cold Steve Austin. 1381 01:06:45,969 --> 01:06:48,204 - It's good to be here. 1382 01:06:49,439 --> 01:06:55,078 - "Stone Cold" Steve Austin for the block. 1383 01:06:55,144 --> 01:06:57,013 - Any show like that, he was on it. 1384 01:06:57,080 --> 01:06:58,548 Commercials. 1385 01:07:01,317 --> 01:07:02,452 - Can I get one more of those? 1386 01:07:02,518 --> 01:07:04,120 - Sure. 1387 01:07:04,187 --> 01:07:06,756 - Wrestling just came in like a tsunami. 1388 01:07:07,357 --> 01:07:08,124 - Thanks, Dan. 1389 01:07:08,191 --> 01:07:09,292 That helps. 1390 01:07:09,359 --> 01:07:11,661 - Sports Center wasn't embracing wrestling back then. 1391 01:07:11,761 --> 01:07:16,900 And I just remember this tidal wave of whether you're accepting 1392 01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:19,736 us or not, here we come. 1393 01:07:19,802 --> 01:07:23,373 I wasn't even a wrestling fan, but he was so big, 1394 01:07:23,439 --> 01:07:24,707 he crossed over into mainstream. 1395 01:07:24,807 --> 01:07:28,011 - We'd like to welcome back Stone Cold Steve Austin. 1396 01:07:28,077 --> 01:07:29,512 - He was bigger than wrestling. 1397 01:07:29,579 --> 01:07:32,282 People who aren't wrestling fans or don't care about wrestling 1398 01:07:32,348 --> 01:07:35,285 even they knew who Stone Cold was. 1399 01:07:35,285 --> 01:07:37,086 - When you crossover like that, 1400 01:07:37,153 --> 01:07:39,088 that's when you know you've made it. 1401 01:07:39,155 --> 01:07:40,123 - Hey, man. 1402 01:07:40,590 --> 01:07:41,724 - Nice to meet you too. 1403 01:07:41,791 --> 01:07:42,425 Thank you very much. 1404 01:07:42,525 --> 01:07:44,394 I appreciate it. 1405 01:07:44,460 --> 01:07:47,764 When Austin 3:16 became so hot and everybody had heard about it 1406 01:07:47,830 --> 01:07:50,967 that we would be, you know, in an airport and I'd get 1407 01:07:51,034 --> 01:07:53,336 preachers, and-and priests, and religious people, you know, 1408 01:07:53,403 --> 01:07:56,205 They'd say, "Hey, man, is it okay if I get your autograph?" 1409 01:07:56,272 --> 01:07:57,240 And I said, "Sure." 1410 01:07:57,307 --> 01:07:58,474 I said, "I thought you'd be mad at me 1411 01:07:58,541 --> 01:08:00,209 for inventing the Austin 3:16 thing." 1412 01:08:00,209 --> 01:08:02,045 He said, "Oh, no, we don't care." 1413 01:08:03,046 --> 01:08:07,116 - Steve's legacy is one that kinda makes it hard 1414 01:08:07,183 --> 01:08:10,987 for us to be WWE Superstars. 1415 01:08:11,054 --> 01:08:13,690 His impact is felt in a way that none of us can kinda 1416 01:08:13,756 --> 01:08:15,625 compare to him. 1417 01:08:15,725 --> 01:08:17,627 You know, we certainly try, but there's always gonna be 1418 01:08:17,694 --> 01:08:22,565 somebody somewhere that's gonna say, "Pretty good. 1419 01:08:22,565 --> 01:08:24,634 Not Stone Cold, though." 1420 01:08:25,768 --> 01:08:32,508 [crowd cheers] 1421 01:08:32,608 --> 01:08:35,678 - When it was at its peak during the Attitude Era, 1422 01:08:36,145 --> 01:08:38,481 it was Mob City. 1423 01:08:38,548 --> 01:08:40,149 Uh, it's like The Beatles just landed. 1424 01:08:40,249 --> 01:08:41,951 It was amazing. 1425 01:08:42,018 --> 01:08:43,119 It sounds glamorous, 1426 01:08:43,186 --> 01:08:46,889 but you're choosing to be on the road a lot. 1427 01:08:46,956 --> 01:08:50,560 You have to love the business to put yourself through that. 1428 01:08:50,626 --> 01:08:54,330 That's where you really start evaluating your entire life. 1429 01:09:03,573 --> 01:09:07,176 - When you're going to an interview, one of the most 1430 01:09:07,243 --> 01:09:10,613 challenging parts of the interview besides the questions 1431 01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:14,884 is how do we make this interview look good and how do we make the 1432 01:09:14,951 --> 01:09:17,987 interview look true to the person that you're interviewing? 1433 01:09:17,987 --> 01:09:21,591 Steve had been posting a lot of Instagram posts about his car, 1434 01:09:21,724 --> 01:09:22,892 Blue. 1435 01:09:22,959 --> 01:09:27,830 It was a 1966 Chevrolet C10. 1436 01:09:27,830 --> 01:09:30,600 We got to his ranch and that car was prominently featured 1437 01:09:30,666 --> 01:09:31,868 when we pulled up. 1438 01:09:31,968 --> 01:09:35,038 So our DP, Tom McCallum, had the great idea of incorporating 1439 01:09:35,038 --> 01:09:39,575 that into the interview and I think the car to us, 1440 01:09:39,642 --> 01:09:42,779 it really represented where Steve kinda was in his life. 1441 01:09:42,845 --> 01:09:43,846 It was cool. 1442 01:09:43,913 --> 01:09:45,448 It was simple. 1443 01:09:45,515 --> 01:09:46,716 It was elegant. 1444 01:09:46,716 --> 01:09:50,153 It stood out, but it wasn't too flashy, and I think that car 1445 01:09:50,153 --> 01:09:52,989 just felt sort of like an extension of Steve at the time, 1446 01:09:52,989 --> 01:09:56,159 so we knew we wanted to-to make it prominent in the interview 1447 01:09:56,225 --> 01:09:59,062 because there is this odd connection that you could feel 1448 01:09:59,162 --> 01:10:03,199 between Steve and that car, and it just was natural that it was 1449 01:10:03,266 --> 01:10:04,801 a part of the interview look. 1450 01:10:15,078 --> 01:10:18,314 - Man, when you're running like I was a-at-at my peak, it's hard 1451 01:10:18,314 --> 01:10:21,751 to do anything other than be a pro-wrestler because it-it 1452 01:10:21,884 --> 01:10:23,753 consumes everything about you. 1453 01:10:23,753 --> 01:10:30,560 You are in go mode 24/7, 365. 1454 01:10:30,626 --> 01:10:32,462 You are a slave to the road and you never wanna come off 1455 01:10:32,562 --> 01:10:34,764 the road because if-if you come off the road, you get soft. 1456 01:10:34,831 --> 01:10:36,833 So I was never home. 1457 01:10:36,833 --> 01:10:40,369 That's a recipe for disaster. 1458 01:10:41,838 --> 01:10:44,907 It's all looks fun when you're seeing it on TV, 1459 01:10:45,007 --> 01:10:46,642 but it ain't always TV. 1460 01:10:46,742 --> 01:10:49,378 TV's a very small part of the life that you live 1461 01:10:49,445 --> 01:10:50,646 when you're doing that job. 1462 01:10:50,713 --> 01:10:54,917 - The pressure was immense for him and part of that was 1463 01:10:54,984 --> 01:10:57,754 I think because he had so much going on. 1464 01:10:57,754 --> 01:10:59,956 As the pressure's mounting around him work-wise, 1465 01:10:59,956 --> 01:11:01,491 he had a lot of pressures at home 1466 01:11:01,557 --> 01:11:05,728 and a lot of pressures with his family, and it's a lot. 1467 01:11:05,795 --> 01:11:06,929 It was a lot. 1468 01:11:06,996 --> 01:11:08,831 - And that's the thing about the business, you've got all 1469 01:11:08,831 --> 01:11:12,201 the personal problems that everybody else does. 1470 01:11:13,436 --> 01:11:14,604 I got two daughters. 1471 01:11:14,704 --> 01:11:19,075 Uh, Stephanie Britt's the oldest and Cassidy Skye's the youngest, 1472 01:11:19,075 --> 01:11:20,409 and I remember I came home. 1473 01:11:20,476 --> 01:11:21,611 I think it was Stephanie who was born. 1474 01:11:21,677 --> 01:11:22,478 I-I flew in. 1475 01:11:22,478 --> 01:11:23,579 I was in New York City. 1476 01:11:23,646 --> 01:11:24,480 We were working in New York. 1477 01:11:24,580 --> 01:11:25,414 It was the Garden. 1478 01:11:25,481 --> 01:11:26,682 Man, I flew home. 1479 01:11:26,682 --> 01:11:30,720 I was there f-for her birth and then as soon as she's born, 1480 01:11:30,786 --> 01:11:31,587 I held her. 1481 01:11:31,587 --> 01:11:33,156 I gave her like her first bottle. 1482 01:11:33,156 --> 01:11:35,591 I got on an airplane and I was in Pittsburgh that night- 1483 01:11:35,591 --> 01:11:36,559 -working. 1484 01:11:39,228 --> 01:11:41,831 - The truth is even guys that were married and had families 1485 01:11:41,964 --> 01:11:44,233 and things like that, they were more married to the road 1486 01:11:44,333 --> 01:11:46,435 and the business. 1487 01:11:46,435 --> 01:11:49,372 - To be successful in this industry, you have to be willing 1488 01:11:49,438 --> 01:11:55,077 to commit an enormous amount of time away from being home. 1489 01:11:55,077 --> 01:11:57,680 There's just no other way to do it. 1490 01:11:57,680 --> 01:12:00,082 It-it's an extremely difficult life. 1491 01:12:00,082 --> 01:12:01,684 It really is. 1492 01:12:01,751 --> 01:12:04,387 If you have a family, so difficult. 1493 01:12:04,387 --> 01:12:06,956 So difficult on everybody. 1494 01:12:06,956 --> 01:12:08,391 I think that's probably why there's such 1495 01:12:08,391 --> 01:12:12,995 a high rate of divorce and-and things of that nature. 1496 01:12:12,995 --> 01:12:15,598 - I tried to not bring up that stuff. 1497 01:12:15,665 --> 01:12:17,834 I knew what family life is like. 1498 01:12:17,834 --> 01:12:20,736 It's unsatisfying. 1499 01:12:20,803 --> 01:12:22,972 It's a source of consternation. 1500 01:12:23,039 --> 01:12:26,409 It's a source of crying children and heartbreak. 1501 01:12:26,475 --> 01:12:28,844 It's a source of unhappy spouses. 1502 01:12:28,911 --> 01:12:30,580 - It's not like you're making a conscious decision, 1503 01:12:30,646 --> 01:12:32,281 hey, I'm putting everybody else on the back burner, 1504 01:12:32,281 --> 01:12:34,350 but I decided to get a divorce. 1505 01:12:34,483 --> 01:12:37,486 You know, when you go through a divorce, they're chaotic. 1506 01:12:37,553 --> 01:12:39,622 So obviously, you're very distracted. 1507 01:12:39,722 --> 01:12:42,592 I was living in a house, but once I decided to get a divorce, 1508 01:12:42,592 --> 01:12:45,928 I moved literally about two, three miles down the road in an 1509 01:12:45,995 --> 01:12:51,200 old double wide and although I was going through the pain or 1510 01:12:51,267 --> 01:12:53,803 whatever goes with a divorce, when I moved in to that 1511 01:12:53,803 --> 01:12:56,405 double-wide, me and the double-wide, for some reason, 1512 01:12:56,472 --> 01:12:57,974 there's synergy. 1513 01:12:58,040 --> 01:13:02,211 I had two cinderblocks with a 1 x 12 plank where my, uh, TV was. 1514 01:13:02,278 --> 01:13:04,947 I had my cooler, you know, uh, full of beer. 1515 01:13:05,047 --> 01:13:07,116 It's too bad that the marriage didn't work out, 1516 01:13:07,116 --> 01:13:10,319 but I found comfort and solace in that double wide. 1517 01:13:12,255 --> 01:13:16,359 You can be in the business and you can still live a full life, 1518 01:13:16,425 --> 01:13:19,662 but everything else is kinda like white noise 1519 01:13:19,762 --> 01:13:22,832 that I'm putting all my chips in my own basket 1520 01:13:22,965 --> 01:13:24,500 and this is what I'm doing, 1521 01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:29,772 and that was the first and foremost priority was me. 1522 01:13:29,839 --> 01:13:33,843 Selfish I was and I was gonna ride myself and everything 1523 01:13:33,943 --> 01:13:38,481 that the business had to get to the top and do the best I could. 1524 01:13:40,483 --> 01:13:43,653 - There's a sacrifice to greatness and it's a price 1525 01:13:43,719 --> 01:13:46,489 that a lot of people are not willing to pay because 1526 01:13:46,555 --> 01:13:48,891 there is an intensity to it. 1527 01:13:48,958 --> 01:13:53,796 There is an obligation to your own vision and dreams that you 1528 01:13:53,896 --> 01:13:59,201 have to service at all costs over and above everyone else 1529 01:13:59,302 --> 01:14:01,837 in your life including yourself. 1530 01:14:01,971 --> 01:14:08,277 Your own self-interests take a back seat to your dreams 1531 01:14:08,277 --> 01:14:11,314 and aspirations of what you want to achieve. 1532 01:14:11,314 --> 01:14:13,816 He's had multiple marriages that fell apart. 1533 01:14:13,883 --> 01:14:17,253 He's had multiple friendships that will never be repaired, 1534 01:14:17,320 --> 01:14:22,992 but that's the price you pay to look back on a body of work 1535 01:14:22,992 --> 01:14:27,797 and have everyone else around you say, "He changed the game." 1536 01:14:29,966 --> 01:14:32,401 - Man, I-I am very demanding. 1537 01:14:32,501 --> 01:14:34,003 I was a professional wrestler. 1538 01:14:34,103 --> 01:14:36,972 It's what I live and died for. 1539 01:14:37,039 --> 01:14:38,441 - He took a lot of things personally. 1540 01:14:38,541 --> 01:14:41,477 He wanted everything to be perfect and he would always 1541 01:14:41,477 --> 01:14:44,280 want to be challenged with new information, and new creative. 1542 01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:46,949 You kept your star happy. 1543 01:14:47,049 --> 01:14:51,487 Keep your talent happy as best you can. 1544 01:14:53,155 --> 01:14:54,590 - If you don't build new stars, 1545 01:14:54,590 --> 01:14:57,593 you can't feed the superstars at the top. 1546 01:14:57,593 --> 01:15:02,431 So when Steve became the big star in the business, he knew he 1547 01:15:02,565 --> 01:15:07,069 needed a fresh rotation of brand-new stars to work with. 1548 01:15:07,169 --> 01:15:10,573 Mr. McMahon couldn't be that equal because once they got in 1549 01:15:10,639 --> 01:15:13,409 to the ring together, it wasn't a very good match. 1550 01:15:13,476 --> 01:15:19,548 It needed someone that you could honestly look at and say, 1551 01:15:19,648 --> 01:15:24,153 "This guy can measure up to 'Stone Cold' Steve Austin." 1552 01:15:24,153 --> 01:15:33,462 - If you smell what The Rock is cooking. 1553 01:15:34,096 --> 01:15:36,032 [crowd chants "Rocky"] 1554 01:15:36,032 --> 01:15:38,801 - If you build an opponent for Stone Cold, that opponent should 1555 01:15:38,901 --> 01:15:42,405 be on TV regularly and go six months without losing. 1556 01:15:43,239 --> 01:15:45,074 Start planting those seeds. 1557 01:15:45,074 --> 01:15:46,609 Can you imagine this guy's gonna be like 1558 01:15:46,675 --> 01:15:48,978 when he takes on Stone Cold someday? 1559 01:15:49,044 --> 01:15:51,514 - My first couple of years in the business, man, I watch this 1560 01:15:51,514 --> 01:15:56,552 guy, Steve Austin, ascend to the top and start to achieve this 1561 01:15:56,552 --> 01:16:01,323 incredible popularity and I would just quietly watch in the 1562 01:16:01,390 --> 01:16:05,594 shadows, study his behavior, and watch how he operated because 1563 01:16:05,594 --> 01:16:08,597 that was a position that I wanted to be in, 1564 01:16:08,664 --> 01:16:09,999 and I think he knew that. 1565 01:16:10,766 --> 01:16:13,068 - I just remember watching him starting to gain momentum, 1566 01:16:13,169 --> 01:16:16,639 starting to establish a relationship with the crowd. 1567 01:16:16,639 --> 01:16:18,040 He's starting to get over. 1568 01:16:18,140 --> 01:16:19,642 There's something here. 1569 01:16:19,642 --> 01:16:21,277 I-I-I need to watch this. 1570 01:16:21,277 --> 01:16:23,245 - And I remember him saying something to the effect 1571 01:16:23,312 --> 01:16:25,915 of there's something there, kid. 1572 01:16:25,915 --> 01:16:26,882 [laughs] 1573 01:16:26,882 --> 01:16:29,518 There's something there. 1574 01:16:31,554 --> 01:16:35,090 There was also this bond like he was a big brother in a way, 1575 01:16:35,157 --> 01:16:38,394 and then we knew that we were going to converge 1576 01:16:38,494 --> 01:16:41,363 and that we were going to work together. 1577 01:16:41,430 --> 01:16:43,399 And as far as where The Rock is concerned, 1578 01:16:43,466 --> 01:16:48,037 the greatest book ever written is the one titled, 1579 01:16:48,037 --> 01:16:51,841 The Rock versus "Stone Cold" Steve Austin. 1580 01:16:51,841 --> 01:16:54,977 [crowd cheers] 1581 01:16:55,044 --> 01:16:56,045 - They were natural together. 1582 01:16:56,112 --> 01:16:57,646 They had great chemistry. 1583 01:16:57,713 --> 01:17:00,616 I think that Steve and Rock liked each other, 1584 01:17:00,683 --> 01:17:04,987 so that helped, and they both rode that wave. 1585 01:17:04,987 --> 01:17:07,756 - Rock, Stone Cold at WrestleMania. 1586 01:17:09,592 --> 01:17:12,628 - I loved the relationship of The Rock and Steve 1587 01:17:12,628 --> 01:17:16,832 because they are both very, very competitive. 1588 01:17:16,966 --> 01:17:19,134 They were always wondering how the other was feeling, 1589 01:17:19,201 --> 01:17:20,636 how the other was doing. 1590 01:17:20,636 --> 01:17:23,639 They never left each other's radar. 1591 01:17:23,639 --> 01:17:25,407 They pushed each other. 1592 01:17:25,474 --> 01:17:27,209 They made each other better. 1593 01:17:27,276 --> 01:17:33,148 - In the world of pro-wrestling, you can only control so much, 1594 01:17:33,249 --> 01:17:36,318 and after that, it becomes the intangible. 1595 01:17:37,152 --> 01:17:38,554 - Rock commandeering a camera. 1596 01:17:38,654 --> 01:17:40,556 - He can do it all. 1597 01:17:40,556 --> 01:17:42,158 - The Rattlesnake is up. 1598 01:17:42,224 --> 01:17:43,559 And the Stunner. 1599 01:17:43,626 --> 01:17:46,162 - And that intangible, what everybody searches for, 1600 01:17:46,228 --> 01:17:48,230 is chemistry. 1601 01:17:48,230 --> 01:17:52,368 I knew exactly what he was gonna do all the time. 1602 01:17:52,835 --> 01:17:56,038 He knew exactly what I was gonna do all the time. 1603 01:17:56,038 --> 01:17:58,641 That's just kinda the special thing that you just feel. 1604 01:17:58,741 --> 01:18:02,044 [crowd cheers] 1605 01:18:02,111 --> 01:18:07,082 - And it's like watching two comets fly through the sky 1606 01:18:07,082 --> 01:18:08,450 and hit each other. 1607 01:18:08,517 --> 01:18:10,352 It never happens. 1608 01:18:10,486 --> 01:18:12,321 - The Lou Thesz Press. 1609 01:18:12,388 --> 01:18:13,556 - I think it was the Apex. 1610 01:18:13,656 --> 01:18:15,791 I mean it was-it was really the peak. 1611 01:18:15,791 --> 01:18:20,029 And Steve Austin and The Rock were the two hottest stars 1612 01:18:20,029 --> 01:18:21,830 in the business. 1613 01:18:21,830 --> 01:18:24,133 - We were fighting for the exact same thing 1614 01:18:24,200 --> 01:18:27,336 and that was the number one top spot in the company 1615 01:18:27,403 --> 01:18:30,372 at a time where the company was on fire. 1616 01:18:30,439 --> 01:18:32,208 It's really rarefied air 1617 01:18:32,274 --> 01:18:34,443 and we were fighting for that rarefied air. 1618 01:18:34,510 --> 01:18:37,613 But it was outta so much love and so much respect. 1619 01:18:37,680 --> 01:18:40,216 - God, It was so fun to watch and privileged to see something 1620 01:18:40,282 --> 01:18:42,751 like that when you have these two big talents coming together. 1621 01:18:42,885 --> 01:18:44,053 - It's a new champion. 1622 01:18:44,119 --> 01:18:46,755 [crowd cheering] 1623 01:18:46,855 --> 01:18:49,191 - Man, that was a great ride. 1624 01:18:49,325 --> 01:18:53,862 [crowd cheering] 1625 01:18:53,862 --> 01:18:56,031 - Rock and I never rode the roads together. 1626 01:18:56,098 --> 01:18:58,033 He ran with a different crowd. 1627 01:18:58,100 --> 01:18:59,802 But whenever we see each other, 1628 01:18:59,868 --> 01:19:03,038 it's just like the last time we left off. 1629 01:19:03,105 --> 01:19:05,474 It's a friendship that is forever. 1630 01:19:05,541 --> 01:19:10,646 - That was a guy who looked at me and said, "You. 1631 01:19:10,713 --> 01:19:13,949 You and me we're gonna go and we're gonna go to the dance." 1632 01:19:14,049 --> 01:19:17,753 That decision to-to take me, if you will, under his wing, 1633 01:19:17,820 --> 01:19:18,787 it changed my life. 1634 01:19:23,192 --> 01:19:28,030 - Steve sacrificed so much for his success. 1635 01:19:28,030 --> 01:19:32,167 He sacrificed everything, family, friends, time to get 1636 01:19:32,234 --> 01:19:34,370 where he needed to go. 1637 01:19:34,436 --> 01:19:37,006 - I'm putting all my chips in my own basket 1638 01:19:37,072 --> 01:19:38,641 and this is what I'm doing. 1639 01:19:38,707 --> 01:19:42,678 And that was the first and foremost priority was me. 1640 01:19:44,079 --> 01:19:47,082 - And I think when at an older age when he's reflecting 1641 01:19:47,149 --> 01:19:49,385 on that, he thinks a little bit more about the sacrifices 1642 01:19:49,518 --> 01:19:50,886 and who that impacted. 1643 01:19:53,022 --> 01:19:56,025 - When I asked Steve about his daughters, he was much more 1644 01:19:56,158 --> 01:19:59,428 willing to talk about it than I thought he was. 1645 01:19:59,495 --> 01:20:01,430 - In the past, I haven't talked too much about them 1646 01:20:01,497 --> 01:20:03,799 and it's because of the strained relationship that it was 1647 01:20:03,866 --> 01:20:07,803 and me being gone all the time. 1648 01:20:07,870 --> 01:20:11,674 - And after the shoot he called me and he said, 1649 01:20:11,774 --> 01:20:14,410 "I'm really glad I got to talk about my daughters." 1650 01:20:14,476 --> 01:20:17,046 He said, "I-- I've wanted to do that for a while 1651 01:20:17,112 --> 01:20:19,348 and I'm glad that we talked about it 1652 01:20:19,481 --> 01:20:22,151 and, um, I'm glad that will be in the biography." 1653 01:20:22,151 --> 01:20:24,353 So I think it was therapeutic for Steve to finally talk 1654 01:20:24,353 --> 01:20:26,388 about his daughters out in the open. 1655 01:20:26,388 --> 01:20:28,991 I'm still curious what that relationship is like 1656 01:20:29,058 --> 01:20:32,428 and-and more, but I think it's a start to Steve talking 1657 01:20:32,428 --> 01:20:33,796 about that kind of stuff. 1658 01:20:33,862 --> 01:20:35,831 And it's also-- it shows where he's at in his life now, 1659 01:20:35,831 --> 01:20:37,633 willing to talk about certain things that he probably wasn't 1660 01:20:37,633 --> 01:20:40,035 willing to talk about when he was a little younger. 1661 01:20:49,078 --> 01:20:51,213 - Steve's gonna be the first one to tell you 1662 01:20:51,280 --> 01:20:53,348 that he's got just a core group of friends. 1663 01:20:53,482 --> 01:20:55,784 I mean, he is not gonna just be your best friend 1664 01:20:55,918 --> 01:20:57,753 just to be your best friend. 1665 01:20:57,820 --> 01:20:59,588 - They say it's lonely at the top 1666 01:20:59,588 --> 01:21:02,791 and I think Steve was pretty lonely. 1667 01:21:02,791 --> 01:21:04,126 - I ran with myself. 1668 01:21:04,193 --> 01:21:06,428 I was lone wolf. 1669 01:21:06,428 --> 01:21:09,631 My place was on top of that roster, on top of that card. 1670 01:21:09,698 --> 01:21:11,200 There's so much jealousy. 1671 01:21:11,266 --> 01:21:14,036 I really live the-the-the thing I came up with years ago, 1672 01:21:14,036 --> 01:21:16,672 DTA, don't trust anybody. 1673 01:21:17,239 --> 01:21:20,876 - DTA, don't trust anyone, makes for a good catchphrase. 1674 01:21:20,876 --> 01:21:23,512 I don't know if it's the best way to go through life, 1675 01:21:23,645 --> 01:21:26,348 but I think that is how Steve went through his life 1676 01:21:26,482 --> 01:21:27,750 at that time. 1677 01:21:27,883 --> 01:21:30,352 - The DTA, don't trust anyone thing, that wasn't Steve 1678 01:21:30,419 --> 01:21:33,756 playing a character, angry, bitter, paranoid, 1679 01:21:33,822 --> 01:21:35,190 like there was a lot of that. 1680 01:21:35,190 --> 01:21:36,925 Steve's a very private guy. 1681 01:21:36,992 --> 01:21:38,026 He just is. 1682 01:21:38,160 --> 01:21:40,429 He never really talked about his home life. 1683 01:21:40,496 --> 01:21:42,431 Every now and then he'd tell you something about his family, 1684 01:21:42,498 --> 01:21:46,001 but for the most part he-he kept all that stuff to himself. 1685 01:21:47,803 --> 01:21:50,439 - People have always asked me about my daughters. 1686 01:21:50,439 --> 01:21:52,474 In the past, I haven't talked too much about them 1687 01:21:52,474 --> 01:21:55,277 and it's because of the strained relationship that it was 1688 01:21:55,344 --> 01:21:57,846 and me being gone all the time. 1689 01:21:59,681 --> 01:22:03,685 I-I never won father of the year because I'm purely on the road. 1690 01:22:03,752 --> 01:22:06,221 If I'm gonna come home for my two days off every now and then, 1691 01:22:06,355 --> 01:22:09,224 I'm gonna cook some flank steaks on the grill and drink beer. 1692 01:22:09,358 --> 01:22:11,193 That's as much as I'm contributing. 1693 01:22:11,193 --> 01:22:14,196 I hate to say that, that's the way it was. 1694 01:22:15,230 --> 01:22:17,866 They knew that I loved them, but I wasn't there. 1695 01:22:23,438 --> 01:22:26,909 Back in 2001, uh, my wife took the kids over to England 1696 01:22:27,042 --> 01:22:28,877 to visit her side of the family. 1697 01:22:28,877 --> 01:22:31,246 9/11 happened and then that's when everybody was, 1698 01:22:31,313 --> 01:22:33,282 or at least she was afraid to fly. 1699 01:22:33,348 --> 01:22:34,983 They kind of stayed over there. 1700 01:22:35,117 --> 01:22:38,320 I was always gone anyway, so what's the big deal? 1701 01:22:38,387 --> 01:22:40,722 So they stayed over there, and they kept staying over there, 1702 01:22:40,789 --> 01:22:44,426 and, uh, as time went on, well, I called Stephanie just to talk 1703 01:22:44,560 --> 01:22:47,663 to them and when we started talking and she had a-a proper 1704 01:22:47,796 --> 01:22:50,966 London accent. 1705 01:22:51,033 --> 01:22:54,803 When I hung up the phone, I started crying like a baby. 1706 01:22:54,870 --> 01:22:56,772 Because she used to sound exactly like I do 1707 01:22:56,839 --> 01:22:57,806 [laugh] 1708 01:22:57,940 --> 01:22:59,241 for better for worse without the four-letter words. 1709 01:22:59,308 --> 01:23:01,076 She had my same accent. 1710 01:23:01,143 --> 01:23:05,714 And to hear her with an English accent, yeah, that shook me up 1711 01:23:05,714 --> 01:23:10,152 because I was like, "Okay, er, you-- you know what'd I do wrong 1712 01:23:10,152 --> 01:23:11,720 or could have done better?" 1713 01:23:11,787 --> 01:23:14,756 - That's the bottom line because Stone Cold said so. 1714 01:23:16,058 --> 01:23:18,794 - Now that they're older, we're on the way 1715 01:23:18,861 --> 01:23:20,796 to building better relationships. 1716 01:23:20,863 --> 01:23:24,266 So now they're pursuing their own things, I support them. 1717 01:23:24,399 --> 01:23:26,969 Uh, if I can give them any advice, I do. 1718 01:23:27,035 --> 01:23:31,373 Through all the BS that that has happened, we're talking now, 1719 01:23:31,440 --> 01:23:33,275 uh, the relationships, as strained as they were, 1720 01:23:33,275 --> 01:23:36,245 they're better now, but it's still a building block. 1721 01:23:36,311 --> 01:23:39,281 Because truly after all these years, 1722 01:23:39,348 --> 01:23:43,118 we still don't know each other as well as we should. 1723 01:23:43,785 --> 01:23:48,524 - That was the fustian bargain that he cut with himself 1724 01:23:48,590 --> 01:23:53,362 in order to myopically, obsessively go after the success 1725 01:23:53,428 --> 01:23:58,834 that he knew in his heart he could achieve. 1726 01:23:58,834 --> 01:24:01,236 - You have to get it while you can and then hope that you can 1727 01:24:01,236 --> 01:24:05,841 make up for all the other stuff that you put on the bottom shelf 1728 01:24:05,908 --> 01:24:08,677 while you went out and lived your dream. 1729 01:24:08,744 --> 01:24:10,679 There's a lot of casualties that come with that. 1730 01:24:10,746 --> 01:24:13,081 And you have to be willing to accept that 1731 01:24:13,148 --> 01:24:15,484 your window's really small. 1732 01:24:15,550 --> 01:24:18,120 For most guys, it-it really is a small window. 1733 01:24:21,857 --> 01:24:23,025 - He always felt like he was gonna lose his spot in line 1734 01:24:23,158 --> 01:24:26,228 if he was not on the road. 1735 01:24:26,228 --> 01:24:27,429 I can't be home. 1736 01:24:27,429 --> 01:24:29,998 I gotta be on the road with the rest of the guys. 1737 01:24:30,065 --> 01:24:32,200 Because somebody else is gonna have a great match, 1738 01:24:32,267 --> 01:24:34,636 they're gonna be noticed and I'm not. 1739 01:24:34,636 --> 01:24:37,039 The drive for that-- The lust for that, 1740 01:24:37,039 --> 01:24:39,007 he could never get away from. 1741 01:24:40,909 --> 01:24:44,112 - Anytime that someone is successful, 1742 01:24:44,246 --> 01:24:45,380 they have a hands-on approach. 1743 01:24:45,480 --> 01:24:47,049 Steve had a very hands-on approach when it came 1744 01:24:47,115 --> 01:24:51,753 to the presentation of what he was going to do. 1745 01:24:51,820 --> 01:24:55,958 Steve was very demanding, but Steve could be guilty of, 1746 01:24:56,024 --> 01:24:58,126 "This sucks." 1747 01:24:58,193 --> 01:24:59,861 "Okay, it sucks, Steve. 1748 01:24:59,995 --> 01:25:00,963 What do you wanna do to make it better?" 1749 01:25:01,029 --> 01:25:01,630 "I don't know. 1750 01:25:01,630 --> 01:25:02,564 God damn, you're a writer. 1751 01:25:02,631 --> 01:25:04,466 Write something." 1752 01:25:04,600 --> 01:25:08,036 Steve would get mad, throw it away and-and storm off. 1753 01:25:08,103 --> 01:25:11,440 - This was at a time when The Rock was kicking-- uh, breaking 1754 01:25:11,440 --> 01:25:15,911 Hollywood and "Stone Cold" Steve Austin needed a new equal. 1755 01:25:16,044 --> 01:25:18,413 - Steve would've been very easy to maintain and manage 1756 01:25:18,480 --> 01:25:21,316 if we'd always had a good opponent ready for him. 1757 01:25:21,316 --> 01:25:22,551 And why wouldn't you? 1758 01:25:22,618 --> 01:25:25,988 I think that's what led to a lot of Steve's frustration, 1759 01:25:25,988 --> 01:25:28,624 complaining about his opponents, you know, 1760 01:25:28,757 --> 01:25:31,026 complaining who he was working with. 1761 01:25:31,159 --> 01:25:33,161 He wasn't getting red hot villians. 1762 01:25:33,228 --> 01:25:36,765 Nobody's ready and nobody's been groomed for me. 1763 01:25:36,832 --> 01:25:40,035 The process had failed him. 1764 01:25:40,102 --> 01:25:43,038 When the creative stuff started going south a little bit, it had 1765 01:25:43,038 --> 01:25:46,408 a more profound effect on him than it would a lot of guys. 1766 01:25:46,475 --> 01:25:49,911 Because he felt like this foundation's starting to crack. 1767 01:25:50,045 --> 01:25:51,880 - And I was like, "Dude, what is going on here?" 1768 01:25:51,947 --> 01:25:54,516 When you've been trying so hard, so long to be that guy 1769 01:25:54,516 --> 01:25:57,386 and you get that chance, you ain't letting it go. 1770 01:25:57,519 --> 01:25:59,187 - I found out what creative had in mind 1771 01:25:59,287 --> 01:26:03,592 for Steve and Brock Lesnar, and I confirmed it with Vince. 1772 01:26:03,592 --> 01:26:04,926 "Oh, you're gonna work with Brock tonight 1773 01:26:04,993 --> 01:26:06,461 and you're gonna lose." 1774 01:26:06,595 --> 01:26:08,030 And it certainly was very premature 1775 01:26:08,096 --> 01:26:11,833 to try to have Steve and Brock wrestle with no buildup. 1776 01:26:11,833 --> 01:26:15,437 This is a match that can sell out indoor stadiums, 1777 01:26:15,437 --> 01:26:17,973 but there was no story there. 1778 01:26:18,040 --> 01:26:22,010 It was thrown together and-and it meant nothing. 1779 01:26:22,077 --> 01:26:24,279 - Jim Ross calls me with the creative for Monday Night Raw, 1780 01:26:24,279 --> 01:26:25,714 tells me, long story short, 1781 01:26:25,714 --> 01:26:27,716 that I'm doing a job for Brock Lesner. 1782 01:26:27,783 --> 01:26:29,151 I said, "Oh, really?" 1783 01:26:29,217 --> 01:26:30,752 I said, "Well, if that's gonna be the case, 1784 01:26:30,752 --> 01:26:32,187 I ain't gonna be there." 1785 01:26:32,187 --> 01:26:35,791 So sure enough, I woke up, I had two bloody Marys, 1786 01:26:35,791 --> 01:26:38,994 got on airplane and I was flying back to San Antonio 1787 01:26:39,061 --> 01:26:40,028 and I was mad. 1788 01:26:40,095 --> 01:26:41,763 It ain't about winning or losing. 1789 01:26:41,830 --> 01:26:45,367 I'll let anybody beat me as long as it's for a reason, 1790 01:26:45,434 --> 01:26:48,403 it means something, and there's money behind it. 1791 01:26:48,470 --> 01:26:49,838 And so I-I said, "No. 1792 01:26:49,838 --> 01:26:50,639 I ain't doing it." 1793 01:26:50,639 --> 01:26:51,406 And I went home. 1794 01:26:51,473 --> 01:26:52,207 It was over. 1795 01:26:52,274 --> 01:26:53,442 I was done. 1796 01:26:53,542 --> 01:26:56,912 And it cost me a lot of respect from my peers, a lot of money 1797 01:26:57,045 --> 01:26:58,213 and that's what I did. 1798 01:26:58,280 --> 01:27:00,348 And they-- As they said it, I took my ball and went home. 1799 01:27:02,918 --> 01:27:06,188 - Man, it felt like he kicked everybody in the cojones, 1800 01:27:06,254 --> 01:27:07,389 you know. 1801 01:27:07,389 --> 01:27:09,591 It felt like that all of a sudden, "Wait a minute. 1802 01:27:09,658 --> 01:27:10,726 What is wrong with him? 1803 01:27:10,792 --> 01:27:13,028 How is he thinking this way?" 1804 01:27:13,028 --> 01:27:15,630 - To his credit, Vince called me three times. 1805 01:27:15,630 --> 01:27:17,365 He left me a voice message each time. 1806 01:27:17,432 --> 01:27:19,000 I never called him back. 1807 01:27:19,000 --> 01:27:20,001 I-I didn't wanna talk to him on the phone. 1808 01:27:20,068 --> 01:27:22,404 I was still hot. 1809 01:27:23,438 --> 01:27:25,874 And for about six months, I was huntin fishin and drinkin 1810 01:27:25,874 --> 01:27:28,677 and not necessarily in that order 1811 01:27:28,677 --> 01:27:32,481 and making a lot of bad decisions. 1812 01:27:32,547 --> 01:27:34,883 You know, just time was going by. 1813 01:27:37,352 --> 01:27:39,154 Finally, I'm going through my mail, 1814 01:27:39,154 --> 01:27:41,923 there's a card from Jim Ross. 1815 01:27:41,990 --> 01:27:44,192 I didn't expect a card from Jim Ross. 1816 01:27:44,192 --> 01:27:47,863 "Hey man, just-just checking on you want to see if you're okay? 1817 01:27:47,996 --> 01:27:51,433 If you ever wanna talk, give me a call." 1818 01:27:51,433 --> 01:27:53,034 And I felt right then, 1819 01:27:53,034 --> 01:27:55,036 that that was my friend throwing me a lifeline. 1820 01:27:55,036 --> 01:27:56,638 I called him up. 1821 01:27:56,705 --> 01:27:58,640 It was back when they had those old Motorola flip phones. 1822 01:27:58,640 --> 01:28:00,642 I burned through two batteries talking to Jim. 1823 01:28:00,709 --> 01:28:03,879 - We did speak for hours. 1824 01:28:03,945 --> 01:28:05,780 Life, football, you know, booking, 1825 01:28:05,881 --> 01:28:08,083 marriage, relationships. 1826 01:28:08,150 --> 01:28:10,552 Boy, he really needed to talk. 1827 01:28:10,619 --> 01:28:11,887 - He goes, "Hey, man. 1828 01:28:11,953 --> 01:28:13,188 Do you think if I ever put you and the old man in the building, 1829 01:28:13,255 --> 01:28:14,923 you can hash this out and put it behind you 1830 01:28:14,990 --> 01:28:16,625 and come back to work?" 1831 01:28:16,758 --> 01:28:19,094 I said, "I'd love that." 1832 01:28:19,194 --> 01:28:22,030 He facilitated the meeting between myself and Vince. 1833 01:28:22,097 --> 01:28:28,637 And I'm thinking, "Man, we're either gonna fight or hug." 1834 01:28:28,637 --> 01:28:31,573 We started talking, we hashed it out. 1835 01:28:31,640 --> 01:28:33,475 I told him what I was thinking 1836 01:28:33,542 --> 01:28:35,410 and we got back on the same track. 1837 01:28:35,477 --> 01:28:37,646 And then, uh, shortly thereafter, I returned to work. 1838 01:28:39,714 --> 01:28:40,515 - It's good to see you. 1839 01:28:40,515 --> 01:28:41,883 Very good. 1840 01:28:44,352 --> 01:28:47,322 - When I did come back, I knew what I'd done. 1841 01:28:47,389 --> 01:28:51,593 So, I remember going up to basically the whole locker room. 1842 01:28:51,660 --> 01:28:56,832 Yeah, I apologized to a lot of guys and it was warranted. 1843 01:28:56,898 --> 01:28:58,667 [Stone Cold's music plays] 1844 01:28:58,800 --> 01:29:01,836 [crowd cheering] 1845 01:29:01,903 --> 01:29:04,573 - Well, "Stone Cold" Steve Austin is back. 1846 01:29:04,639 --> 01:29:07,309 And I can guarantee you that I am going to raise more hell 1847 01:29:07,442 --> 01:29:10,979 in this ring than I've ever raised in my life. 1848 01:29:16,484 --> 01:29:18,153 - Steve is a very macho guy. 1849 01:29:18,220 --> 01:29:20,722 He's a very tough guy, so you don't expect a guy 1850 01:29:20,789 --> 01:29:22,524 like that to really open up. 1851 01:29:22,591 --> 01:29:25,727 And I think it was just a matter of him being in a place 1852 01:29:25,794 --> 01:29:27,329 in his life now where he's ready to talk 1853 01:29:27,395 --> 01:29:28,663 about some of those things. 1854 01:29:28,763 --> 01:29:30,665 Because he's at a point in his life where he is looking back 1855 01:29:30,765 --> 01:29:33,134 on his career and what that meant. 1856 01:29:33,134 --> 01:29:38,607 And I think there's a lot of self-exploration in that. 1857 01:29:38,673 --> 01:29:40,909 I think the part that stuck with me the most emotionally 1858 01:29:41,009 --> 01:29:44,512 was when he was talking about the end of his career. 1859 01:29:44,613 --> 01:29:49,384 Because he took himself into that moment with The Rock 1860 01:29:49,484 --> 01:29:52,320 and you could see sitting across from him in the chair, 1861 01:29:52,387 --> 01:29:54,589 I could see he was in that moment 1862 01:29:54,656 --> 01:29:57,025 when he was telling us about that. 1863 01:29:57,125 --> 01:29:59,928 - You know, just-just living right there for about 1864 01:29:59,928 --> 01:30:01,229 an hour ago, whatever it was, 1865 01:30:01,296 --> 01:30:02,931 he was asking some most things where 1866 01:30:02,998 --> 01:30:04,399 I get a chance to get transported back in time 1867 01:30:04,466 --> 01:30:07,202 and I start living some of those feelings back 1868 01:30:07,269 --> 01:30:10,005 and I start talking to you like I did, man, it's almost like, 1869 01:30:10,071 --> 01:30:13,775 uh- uh, cathartic or therapeutic for me. 1870 01:30:16,111 --> 01:30:19,214 - In a lot of ways, it was the end of a-a-a major part, if not 1871 01:30:19,281 --> 01:30:22,584 the most significant part of his entire life up to that point. 1872 01:30:22,684 --> 01:30:23,551 How do you walk away from something 1873 01:30:23,618 --> 01:30:25,320 that makes you who you are? 1874 01:30:25,387 --> 01:30:29,224 And so, when Steve talked about that, 1875 01:30:29,324 --> 01:30:32,761 he was there in that moment with The Rock mentally 1876 01:30:32,827 --> 01:30:34,262 even though he physically wasn't there. 1877 01:30:34,362 --> 01:30:38,166 And I think seeing that emotion from him and how much that meant 1878 01:30:38,233 --> 01:30:39,200 to him really stuck with me 1879 01:30:39,267 --> 01:30:40,702 and you could feel it sitting in the room with him. 1880 01:30:40,702 --> 01:30:43,872 That emotion just poured off of him. 1881 01:30:43,972 --> 01:30:46,641 And I think it affected everyone that was there that day. 1882 01:30:55,050 --> 01:30:58,386 - Oh, the Stone Cold Stunner. 1883 01:30:58,486 --> 01:31:00,155 - I came back for a few months. 1884 01:31:00,221 --> 01:31:04,125 But man, it's a hard-ass job. 1885 01:31:04,125 --> 01:31:06,428 I was backstage with Bruce Prichard one time 1886 01:31:06,528 --> 01:31:10,565 and I just kept having this nerve jump in my leg. 1887 01:31:10,632 --> 01:31:13,768 And it was just like everything in my nervous system was so shot 1888 01:31:13,835 --> 01:31:16,371 You know, the atrophy in-in my hands, the other things 1889 01:31:16,371 --> 01:31:18,640 that I was going through is, 1890 01:31:18,707 --> 01:31:20,241 like, finally starting to unwind me. 1891 01:31:20,308 --> 01:31:23,278 It's like, dude, when is your body going to give you enough 1892 01:31:23,345 --> 01:31:25,380 signals that you need to get your ass out of here? 1893 01:31:25,447 --> 01:31:28,083 - The feeling was basically that he had-he had pushed 1894 01:31:28,149 --> 01:31:30,552 the limits as far as he could. 1895 01:31:30,618 --> 01:31:33,355 And that it was time to-- 1896 01:31:33,421 --> 01:31:35,123 He didn't want to push them anymore 1897 01:31:35,190 --> 01:31:38,293 and I think Steve just saw the writing on the wall. 1898 01:31:38,360 --> 01:31:43,565 - I-I can't imagine how agonizing it-it was for Steve 1899 01:31:43,631 --> 01:31:47,168 to make the decision that his career was over. 1900 01:31:47,902 --> 01:31:50,205 He had to resign himself to the fact 1901 01:31:50,271 --> 01:31:52,440 this is as far as the character goes. 1902 01:31:53,842 --> 01:31:56,411 - Now, the question that would then become who would he wrestle 1903 01:31:56,411 --> 01:31:57,979 and what will be the outcome? 1904 01:31:58,046 --> 01:32:02,684 Steve being an old school guy wanted to go out the right way. 1905 01:32:02,751 --> 01:32:06,488 He wanted it to be Rock, he owed it to Rock. 1906 01:32:06,554 --> 01:32:10,358 But he didn't want to distract from The Rock getting a win 1907 01:32:10,425 --> 01:32:12,761 by him saying this is his last match. 1908 01:32:12,827 --> 01:32:15,864 So, we kept that confidential, 1909 01:32:15,964 --> 01:32:18,566 which is the professional thing to do. 1910 01:32:18,566 --> 01:32:22,404 And it shows great love and respect for Dwayne. 1911 01:32:22,470 --> 01:32:23,371 - It's bigger than wrestling. 1912 01:32:23,438 --> 01:32:24,472 I just like The Rock. 1913 01:32:24,572 --> 01:32:27,042 And so, I didn't tell hardly anybody at all. 1914 01:32:27,108 --> 01:32:29,244 Obviously, Vince knew, Jim Ross knew. 1915 01:32:29,310 --> 01:32:32,280 And I told The Rock. 1916 01:32:32,347 --> 01:32:36,851 - When I found out that his last match was going to be with me, 1917 01:32:36,918 --> 01:32:39,054 I had really mixed emotions. 1918 01:32:39,120 --> 01:32:43,124 You know, we hugged and it makes me a little emotional now 1919 01:32:43,191 --> 01:32:48,396 because it is the ending of a career that has been 1920 01:32:48,463 --> 01:32:54,169 so influential on not only me, 1921 01:32:54,235 --> 01:32:56,971 but the world of wrestling that we love. 1922 01:32:57,038 --> 01:32:58,173 - It-It hurt to walk away. 1923 01:32:58,239 --> 01:33:00,942 It was-It was a real tough decision to make, 1924 01:33:00,942 --> 01:33:04,679 but I just figured it was the best decision for me. 1925 01:33:07,248 --> 01:33:10,685 - I think the days leading into WrestleMania 19 1926 01:33:10,685 --> 01:33:13,455 were miserable for him. 1927 01:33:14,088 --> 01:33:15,290 How am I going to do? 1928 01:33:15,356 --> 01:33:16,724 Am I gonna deliver? 1929 01:33:16,724 --> 01:33:18,293 What are the people are gonna say. 1930 01:33:18,359 --> 01:33:19,494 How do I look? 1931 01:33:20,595 --> 01:33:23,364 - Day before WrestleMania, I was at the gym. 1932 01:33:23,364 --> 01:33:25,133 This is at a time when I was drinking, 1933 01:33:25,200 --> 01:33:26,701 uh, about three bottles of wine a night, 1934 01:33:26,768 --> 01:33:28,803 two pots of coffee in the morning to get up 1935 01:33:28,870 --> 01:33:32,173 and a bunch of energy drinks to get you going. 1936 01:33:32,173 --> 01:33:35,376 Really dehydrated, man my feet kept jumping, 1937 01:33:35,443 --> 01:33:36,611 just nervous reactions. 1938 01:33:36,678 --> 01:33:39,514 I was, like, "Man, what is going on?" 1939 01:33:39,614 --> 01:33:44,853 And I-I was staying at the Grand Hyatt Hotel there in Seattle. 1940 01:33:44,919 --> 01:33:46,187 And I went up to the floor that I was on. 1941 01:33:46,287 --> 01:33:48,122 As soon as I got out of the elevator, man, 1942 01:33:48,189 --> 01:33:52,160 my heart started beating out of my chest so hard and fast. 1943 01:33:52,227 --> 01:33:54,496 It scared the -- out of me. 1944 01:33:54,496 --> 01:33:56,231 And I was thinking, "Man, I'm dying." 1945 01:33:56,297 --> 01:33:57,265 I just got my number called. 1946 01:33:57,365 --> 01:33:58,833 I'm gone. 1947 01:33:58,900 --> 01:34:01,236 And there was a WWE employee named Liz DiFabio 1948 01:34:01,302 --> 01:34:02,871 coming down the hallway. 1949 01:34:02,971 --> 01:34:05,740 And I looked at her and she could see that I was as serious 1950 01:34:05,807 --> 01:34:06,774 as a heart attack. 1951 01:34:06,774 --> 01:34:07,809 No pun intended. 1952 01:34:07,876 --> 01:34:11,179 And I said, "Liz, I'm in trouble." 1953 01:34:11,246 --> 01:34:13,281 They take me down to the emergency room 1954 01:34:13,348 --> 01:34:15,383 and they'd put all these tests on me. 1955 01:34:15,383 --> 01:34:17,152 And they thought I had a pulmonary embolism. 1956 01:34:17,218 --> 01:34:18,853 They thought a-a bunch of things. 1957 01:34:18,920 --> 01:34:23,591 And the-the thing was that I was just basically dehydrated. 1958 01:34:23,658 --> 01:34:27,228 Drinking too much, uh, alcohol and way too much caffeine. 1959 01:34:27,328 --> 01:34:30,598 And finally, you know, it's-it's time to stop. 1960 01:34:30,665 --> 01:34:31,933 - So, Vince and I were there, he put too much on himself. 1961 01:34:32,000 --> 01:34:34,102 He worried too much. 1962 01:34:34,168 --> 01:34:36,971 He over thought the situation. 1963 01:34:38,473 --> 01:34:40,074 - So, I woke up next morning. 1964 01:34:40,174 --> 01:34:41,543 Doctor didn't want to discharge me. 1965 01:34:41,543 --> 01:34:44,245 He wouldn't clear me to wrestle, but I was going to wrestle. 1966 01:34:44,312 --> 01:34:46,281 And I was going to wrestle The Rock. 1967 01:34:47,415 --> 01:34:48,750 Get to the building. 1968 01:34:48,850 --> 01:34:50,318 - Mr. Austin. 1969 01:34:50,385 --> 01:34:52,086 - We walked around seeing everybody 1970 01:34:52,086 --> 01:34:53,087 going through the motions. 1971 01:34:53,154 --> 01:34:53,788 Hey, Mark. 1972 01:34:53,888 --> 01:34:55,456 - Hey, Steve. 1973 01:34:55,456 --> 01:34:57,358 - How Y'all doin? 1974 01:34:57,425 --> 01:35:00,328 If I talked to anybody or hardly said anything, 1975 01:35:00,328 --> 01:35:02,030 I was about to start crying. 1976 01:35:03,965 --> 01:35:06,601 And when you're making the decision to walk away from your 1977 01:35:06,668 --> 01:35:12,640 number one passion, that-- And what-- that you live for, man, 1978 01:35:12,707 --> 01:35:14,776 I'll make this go away. 1979 01:35:14,842 --> 01:35:17,278 So, I was like this all day long. 1980 01:35:19,214 --> 01:35:20,682 And then, of course, you know, we'd get ready for the match. 1981 01:35:20,748 --> 01:35:21,849 It's like, "Okay, man. 1982 01:35:21,916 --> 01:35:22,584 Let's go turn it on. 1983 01:35:22,684 --> 01:35:23,518 Rev it up." 1984 01:35:23,585 --> 01:35:24,519 You know, if your heart explodes. 1985 01:35:24,586 --> 01:35:25,720 [chuckles] 1986 01:35:25,787 --> 01:35:27,488 If I died in the ring, hey, man, what better place to go 1987 01:35:27,488 --> 01:35:31,326 than in Mania in the middle of the ring with The Rock? 1988 01:35:31,392 --> 01:35:35,396 So, you know, you-you can't plan a better death than that. 1989 01:35:35,463 --> 01:35:37,599 [crowd cheering] 1990 01:35:37,665 --> 01:35:39,601 - That's what we're here for, JR. 1991 01:35:39,667 --> 01:35:42,136 - The Rock said he was gonna confront 1992 01:35:42,203 --> 01:35:43,471 "Stone Cold" Steve Austin. 1993 01:35:43,571 --> 01:35:47,842 [crowd cheering] 1994 01:35:47,909 --> 01:35:49,410 - I take it all in. 1995 01:35:49,477 --> 01:35:51,980 I feel everything. 1996 01:35:52,046 --> 01:35:56,484 And I sense everything, the smell, the feel, the love, 1997 01:35:56,484 --> 01:35:58,686 the tone of that building. 1998 01:35:58,686 --> 01:36:01,422 [crowd cheering] 1999 01:36:01,522 --> 01:36:03,891 [bell rings] 2000 01:36:03,958 --> 01:36:06,527 - It ain't about nothing but a wrestling match between 2001 01:36:06,594 --> 01:36:09,564 two of the greatest that have ever been in the ring. 2002 01:36:10,632 --> 01:36:12,634 Oh, that's a clothesline. 2003 01:36:12,700 --> 01:36:15,336 And The Rock, is he gonna do it? 2004 01:36:15,403 --> 01:36:17,538 - Big one. 2005 01:36:17,605 --> 01:36:18,606 - Rock Bottom. 2006 01:36:18,673 --> 01:36:20,375 A third Rock Bottom. 2007 01:36:20,375 --> 01:36:22,243 A hook of the leg. 2008 01:36:22,310 --> 01:36:23,311 [bell rings] 2009 01:36:23,411 --> 01:36:26,514 - And The Rock's done it. 2010 01:36:26,614 --> 01:36:30,518 - When that three-count hit, it was like, 2011 01:36:30,585 --> 01:36:32,754 [exhales] 2012 01:36:32,820 --> 01:36:34,088 I was just laying there. 2013 01:36:34,088 --> 01:36:39,494 It's like someone lifting 1,000 pounds of bricks off my back. 2014 01:36:39,994 --> 01:36:42,030 Damn near 70,000 people in that building, couple million 2015 01:36:42,096 --> 01:36:44,032 watching on pay-per-view. 2016 01:36:44,098 --> 01:36:49,370 - We're both laying in the middle of the ring. 2017 01:36:49,437 --> 01:36:53,074 And I sat up and I remember I pushed the referee, 2018 01:36:53,174 --> 01:36:55,910 Earl Hebner, away. 2019 01:36:56,010 --> 01:36:58,079 - He knew that I was going. 2020 01:36:58,146 --> 01:37:01,549 He knew that I didn't want to go and this was a hard decision 2021 01:37:01,649 --> 01:37:03,351 for me to make. 2022 01:37:03,418 --> 01:37:09,023 - I lowered my head down to Steve's, uh, ear and I said, 2023 01:37:09,123 --> 01:37:14,362 "I can't thank you enough for everything that you have done." 2024 01:37:14,429 --> 01:37:17,165 And then I said, "I love you." 2025 01:37:17,165 --> 01:37:19,967 - I remember just laying there in front of 70,000 men and said, 2026 01:37:20,034 --> 01:37:21,135 "Man, I love you, too." 2027 01:37:21,202 --> 01:37:22,170 [chuckles] 2028 01:37:24,972 --> 01:37:27,008 I told him I loved him. 2029 01:37:27,075 --> 01:37:28,910 Verbatim, I said, "I love you, too." 2030 01:37:29,010 --> 01:37:32,447 Two big-ass tough-ass guys telling each other 2031 01:37:32,513 --> 01:37:36,684 that they loved the other one in front of millions of people. 2032 01:37:36,751 --> 01:37:40,888 - I felt like that was a time to tell Steve because there is no 2033 01:37:40,955 --> 01:37:46,894 other moment in our world where we are as raw and open 2034 01:37:46,961 --> 01:37:51,332 and vulnerable than in that moment right there. 2035 01:37:51,866 --> 01:37:55,370 When the one, two three happens, it's just two men who have gone 2036 01:37:55,436 --> 01:37:57,438 on this incredible journey. 2037 01:37:57,505 --> 01:37:59,607 You know, I have goosebumps now thinking about it. 2038 01:37:59,674 --> 01:38:03,010 It's-- That was the moment to say, "Man, I love you 2039 01:38:03,010 --> 01:38:05,012 and I can't thank you enough." 2040 01:38:09,384 --> 01:38:12,520 - What makes Steve's career different than most others is 2041 01:38:12,587 --> 01:38:18,392 just how hot he got, how fast he got hot, and how short of a time 2042 01:38:18,459 --> 01:38:20,795 he had to enjoy it. 2043 01:38:20,862 --> 01:38:22,797 - I was seeing the end as something 2044 01:38:22,864 --> 01:38:26,567 that will never be replicated. 2045 01:38:26,634 --> 01:38:30,972 Seeing the end of a moment in a pop culture genre 2046 01:38:31,038 --> 01:38:32,673 that will never be reproduced. 2047 01:38:33,107 --> 01:38:36,310 - Now I can go enjoy the life that I have in front of me. 2048 01:38:42,950 --> 01:38:45,787 - You know, retirement always sounds good and then there I was 2049 01:38:45,887 --> 01:38:48,956 and I was doing nothing and I was going crazy. 2050 01:38:51,592 --> 01:38:52,393 Straight up. 2051 01:38:52,527 --> 01:38:54,362 I-- Man, I hit the bottle pretty hard. 2052 01:38:58,266 --> 01:39:04,038 - I do know that he was a bit lost after, you know, having to 2053 01:39:04,105 --> 01:39:06,040 leave the business, trying to re-define himself 2054 01:39:06,107 --> 01:39:08,876 and see what is life after wrestling. 2055 01:39:10,678 --> 01:39:14,582 He had three years that he talked about how he was just 2056 01:39:14,649 --> 01:39:18,519 drinking and eating and just a little bit depressed. 2057 01:39:21,589 --> 01:39:23,424 - I'll tell you this true story. 2058 01:39:23,424 --> 01:39:25,159 I woke up one morning, I was looking right at myself 2059 01:39:25,226 --> 01:39:28,763 in the mirror, I said, "Dude, the things that you are doing 2060 01:39:28,830 --> 01:39:32,466 are not conducive to living a long life. 2061 01:39:32,466 --> 01:39:35,069 You better straighten your ass up." 2062 01:39:35,069 --> 01:39:38,406 It took me three years of being a -- up 2063 01:39:38,472 --> 01:39:40,341 to come to my senses 2064 01:39:40,408 --> 01:39:42,176 to say, "You know what? 2065 01:39:42,276 --> 01:39:43,711 You had to quit the business. 2066 01:39:43,811 --> 01:39:46,080 You ain't doing nothing now. 2067 01:39:46,147 --> 01:39:48,816 You better get your ass out to LA and try to capitalize on, 2068 01:39:48,916 --> 01:39:51,953 at least, you know, some part of the name that you spent so long 2069 01:39:51,953 --> 01:39:54,088 trying to build up." 2070 01:39:54,155 --> 01:39:57,992 Look at me, you piece of trash. 2071 01:39:57,992 --> 01:39:59,427 I heard you've been running around saying you could take me 2072 01:39:59,427 --> 01:40:00,361 in a fight. 2073 01:40:00,428 --> 01:40:02,463 - I didn't say that. 2074 01:40:02,563 --> 01:40:04,398 - Let's get busy Hollywood. 2075 01:40:05,032 --> 01:40:08,603 And initially I came out to California to get into acting. 2076 01:40:08,669 --> 01:40:10,872 I quickly realized that I didn't really want to do that. 2077 01:40:10,972 --> 01:40:14,408 And when I found hosting and reality television type stuff, 2078 01:40:14,475 --> 01:40:16,043 that's when I knew I'd kind of found my niche. 2079 01:40:17,311 --> 01:40:20,047 I'm "Stone Cold" Steve Austin, Jerry "The King" Lawler, 2080 01:40:20,114 --> 01:40:23,150 my next guest on Broken Skull Sessions, check it out. 2081 01:40:23,217 --> 01:40:25,920 And that's the bottom line because I said so. 2082 01:40:28,422 --> 01:40:29,991 - Great. 2083 01:40:29,991 --> 01:40:32,693 - And so I started podcasting and the reason I started 2084 01:40:32,793 --> 01:40:34,161 was just keep in touch with people. 2085 01:40:34,228 --> 01:40:36,530 I guess it was just all built on the-the history 2086 01:40:36,631 --> 01:40:39,433 of what I put forth inside the squared circle. 2087 01:40:40,334 --> 01:40:42,637 - He's got, uh, podcasts that he does. 2088 01:40:42,637 --> 01:40:44,238 He's got TV shows he hosts. 2089 01:40:44,305 --> 01:40:46,440 I would say the biggest difference between 2090 01:40:46,507 --> 01:40:48,976 the Stone Cold we see now and the Stone Cold we saw back then, 2091 01:40:49,076 --> 01:40:51,245 he doesn't have the pressure. 2092 01:40:53,347 --> 01:40:54,982 - I'm a civilian now. 2093 01:40:55,049 --> 01:40:56,584 It took me a while to turn into a civilian, 2094 01:40:56,684 --> 01:40:58,653 but I'm- I'm a civilian now. 2095 01:40:58,753 --> 01:41:01,622 My problem is, man, I'm Type A personality, 2096 01:41:01,622 --> 01:41:03,190 so I'm always in a hurry. 2097 01:41:03,190 --> 01:41:05,893 I'm in a hurry when I don't have anything to do. 2098 01:41:05,993 --> 01:41:07,795 This is Brownie, our chocolate lab we rescued 2099 01:41:07,862 --> 01:41:09,463 about three weeks ago. 2100 01:41:09,463 --> 01:41:12,266 These are my, uh, Kawasaki KRX 1000s. 2101 01:41:12,266 --> 01:41:14,669 This is my Corvette and this is KLX 450. 2102 01:41:14,669 --> 01:41:19,040 This truck right here is a 1966 Chevy C10. 2103 01:41:20,274 --> 01:41:21,609 I'm not a wrestler anymore. 2104 01:41:21,676 --> 01:41:24,312 I had a good time doing it, but at the end of the day 2105 01:41:24,412 --> 01:41:26,180 now it's about life. 2106 01:41:38,192 --> 01:41:40,227 - When you step through the curtain, you're in front 2107 01:41:40,227 --> 01:41:44,231 of the paying customer and that's where you gotta be 2108 01:41:44,298 --> 01:41:48,703 the person they perceive you to be on television. 2109 01:41:59,146 --> 01:42:04,251 [crowd cheering] 2110 01:42:04,352 --> 01:42:07,521 And you're-you're that person, from the first step through 2111 01:42:07,588 --> 01:42:13,227 the curtain, until the last step back through the curtain. 2112 01:42:13,227 --> 01:42:16,864 You're a performer out there. 2113 01:42:18,432 --> 01:42:20,001 - Talk about your Psalms. 2114 01:42:20,001 --> 01:42:21,736 Talk about John 3:16. 2115 01:42:21,802 --> 01:42:25,840 Austin 3:16 says I just whipped your ass. 2116 01:42:28,709 --> 01:42:29,443 - Austin did it. 2117 01:42:29,510 --> 01:42:31,278 Austin did it. 2118 01:42:31,345 --> 01:42:36,517 - Nobody tells "Stone Cold" Steve Austin what to do. 2119 01:42:36,584 --> 01:42:42,156 And that's that's the bottom line because Stone Cold said so. 2120 01:42:45,026 --> 01:42:50,031 - When you come back through the curtain, you're a human being. 2121 01:42:50,031 --> 01:42:54,068 And those human beings are worried that moment when I'm 2122 01:42:54,068 --> 01:42:56,437 they step back through that curtain, "Was I good? 2123 01:42:56,504 --> 01:42:58,472 Did they like me? 2124 01:42:58,472 --> 01:42:59,940 Did I do all I can do? 2125 01:43:00,041 --> 01:43:02,510 Did I maximize my minutes?" 2126 01:43:03,878 --> 01:43:06,647 Coming back through is where the rubber meets the road. 2127 01:43:09,116 --> 01:43:11,719 That curtain is a big thing. 2128 01:43:11,786 --> 01:43:15,690 And how you navigate the curtain and how you react on both sides 2129 01:43:15,790 --> 01:43:16,424 of it largely spells your success 2130 01:43:16,557 --> 01:43:17,792 in the pro wrestling business. 2131 01:43:20,461 --> 01:43:22,930 - Look, I got placed in a real good situation, and I got a 2132 01:43:23,030 --> 01:43:26,667 chance to have a lot of fun doing something I love. 2133 01:43:26,667 --> 01:43:28,402 But like I still feel like I'm sitting here in this damn chair 2134 01:43:28,469 --> 01:43:33,874 and I'm still Steve, the dude from Edna. 2135 01:43:33,874 --> 01:43:40,114 In my mind and in my eyes, that's me. 2136 01:43:40,214 --> 01:43:42,249 That's all I can say. 2137 01:43:54,061 --> 01:43:55,563 - So now that you've seen the full biography, 2138 01:43:55,629 --> 01:43:57,231 I think it's important to hear the story 2139 01:43:57,231 --> 01:43:59,633 of when I first met Steve, and I went in with all these 2140 01:43:59,700 --> 01:44:04,538 preconceived notion of who "Stone Cold" Steve Austin is. 2141 01:44:04,638 --> 01:44:06,807 I was watching clips of him in the ring. 2142 01:44:06,874 --> 01:44:08,742 I was reminiscing on my childhood as to what 2143 01:44:08,809 --> 01:44:11,245 I remembered with this guy who'd go around and beat up everyone 2144 01:44:11,312 --> 01:44:13,714 that got in his face and gave everyone the finger 2145 01:44:13,714 --> 01:44:15,583 and chuck beer at them and all this stuff. 2146 01:44:15,649 --> 01:44:16,951 So I was intimidated. 2147 01:44:16,951 --> 01:44:19,453 I thought I was gonna go into his house and meet Stone Cold. 2148 01:44:19,553 --> 01:44:20,988 Because everyone said he's authentic, 2149 01:44:21,088 --> 01:44:24,391 and all I had seen was this guy who was really aggressive 2150 01:44:24,391 --> 01:44:25,793 and I'm not an aggressive person. 2151 01:44:25,860 --> 01:44:27,228 So I was intimidated. 2152 01:44:27,228 --> 01:44:29,063 And I walked in his house. 2153 01:44:29,063 --> 01:44:30,464 It was the day before we were shooting. 2154 01:44:30,464 --> 01:44:31,932 I wanted to meet him with no cameras around 2155 01:44:32,032 --> 01:44:33,901 and he was getting ready for his podcast 2156 01:44:34,001 --> 01:44:36,437 and I was just observing what I had seen. 2157 01:44:36,437 --> 01:44:39,640 I was typing really loudly, which he said was annoying him. 2158 01:44:39,640 --> 01:44:42,510 And he threw me out of his house within an hour of meeting him. 2159 01:44:42,610 --> 01:44:45,179 And so I thought, "Okay, that matches up. 2160 01:44:45,279 --> 01:44:46,480 I just met Stone Cold. 2161 01:44:46,480 --> 01:44:48,716 He threw me out of his house." 2162 01:44:48,816 --> 01:44:51,585 So I didn't know what to do to get back in his good graces. 2163 01:44:51,585 --> 01:44:54,755 I knew that he liked tequila and I do too. 2164 01:44:54,822 --> 01:44:56,690 So I bought a bottle of tequila, I went back to his house 2165 01:44:56,790 --> 01:44:59,193 the next day and I said, "Why'd you throw me outta your house? 2166 01:44:59,193 --> 01:45:00,628 I didn't even do anything." 2167 01:45:00,628 --> 01:45:02,863 And I think that he was surprised by that reaction, 2168 01:45:02,863 --> 01:45:04,465 especially coming from me. 2169 01:45:04,565 --> 01:45:08,869 And so immediately I saw a wall come down and we drank a little 2170 01:45:08,869 --> 01:45:10,538 bit together and we got to know each other a little more. 2171 01:45:10,638 --> 01:45:13,641 And from that point on, he was really warm and friendly 2172 01:45:13,707 --> 01:45:15,242 and kind to me. 2173 01:45:15,309 --> 01:45:19,480 And I think that it flipped the preconceived idea of Stone Cold 2174 01:45:19,547 --> 01:45:22,283 that I had in my head. 2175 01:45:22,349 --> 01:45:24,451 He actually had the ability to be a really nice, genuine, 2176 01:45:24,552 --> 01:45:27,922 comforting guy. 2177 01:45:27,988 --> 01:45:29,089 I was excited that that was the case 2178 01:45:29,156 --> 01:45:30,424 because it made the biography more fun, 2179 01:45:30,524 --> 01:45:32,560 but it also showed just his emotional depth 2180 01:45:32,626 --> 01:45:35,930 and where he can go if he wants to go there. 2181 01:45:40,534 --> 01:45:46,540 I think the biggest takeaway from this doc is what success 2182 01:45:46,640 --> 01:45:48,175 can look like. 2183 01:45:48,242 --> 01:45:50,911 I think people have this image of success in their head of, 2184 01:45:50,911 --> 01:45:53,714 when you get to the top, everything is great. 2185 01:45:53,814 --> 01:45:58,752 I think this doc shows there's many versions of success, 2186 01:45:58,752 --> 01:46:02,623 and Steve's version of success is singularly focused 2187 01:46:02,723 --> 01:46:06,026 at all costs no matter what. 2188 01:46:06,026 --> 01:46:08,596 That's a way to get to the top, but just be cautious 2189 01:46:08,662 --> 01:46:11,632 of what that can do and what being at the top 2190 01:46:11,632 --> 01:46:14,201 actually looks like and feels like. 2191 01:46:14,268 --> 01:46:16,437 He made the ultimate sacrifices, which was family, his time, 2192 01:46:16,437 --> 01:46:20,674 his health, and he was willing to put all of that to the side 2193 01:46:20,674 --> 01:46:23,477 in order to-to march his way to the top. 2194 01:46:23,477 --> 01:46:25,679 And I think that's a version of success that's interesting 2195 01:46:25,679 --> 01:46:27,314 to look at. 2196 01:46:27,314 --> 01:46:28,816 And that was the biggest takeaway 2197 01:46:28,882 --> 01:46:30,818 I had from watching the doc. 2198 01:46:30,868 --> 01:46:35,418 Repair and Synchronization by Easy Subtitles Synchronizer 1.0.0.0 179368

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