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- "Stone Cold" Steve Austin is
the most popular superstar
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in WWE history.
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- Austin 3:16 says I
just whipped your ass.
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- He was a beer-drinking, middle
finger flipping,
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anti-authority figure.
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And he represented
the "common man."
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And he did a lot of the things
that we all want to do,
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which is rebel against your
boss, blaze your own trail,
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have fun doing what
you're doing workwise.
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He became so famous
that he was able to glue
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the WWE and pop
culture together,
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and they've been glued
together ever since.
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[crowd cheering]
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- The Austin Era has begun.
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- His sticking power is unlike
anything because decades
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after his wrestling career,
he still has
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one of the highest selling
shirts in the WWE.
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The closer he got to his true
self, the more success he had.
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And I think that resonated
with people because he was being
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genuine and being
real and being himself.
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And that's why we started the
biography with the question,
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what's the difference between
his character and himself?
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And I think, as you'll see, he
had a-a hard time answering that
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because he was
just being himself.
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- I don't even know what
the difference is really.
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- This is the Director's
Cut A&E Biography,
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WWE Legends on
"Stone Cold" Steve Austin.
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- We cool?
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Okay, good.
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Um, who is Steve
Austin the man
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and who is Stone Cold Steve
Austin the performer?
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- The difference between "Stone
Cold" Steve Austin the man
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and "Stone Cold" Steve Austin
the performer is, basically,
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"Stone Cold" Steve Austin
is exactly that.
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Uh-
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I don't even know what
the difference is really.
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♪
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- Steve Austin is one of
the biggest superstars
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in the history of
the wrestling business
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because of his passion for it.
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[crowd cheering]
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- He had this meteoric rise
that burnt hot and fast
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and changed
an entire industry.
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- Talk about your
Psalms, talk about John 3:16.
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Austin 3:16 says I
just whipped your ass.
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I think the separation between
"Stone Cold" and Steve Austin
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is only a matter of the
surrounding that I'm in.
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- The character
was a real person.
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The look in his eyes
told a real story.
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And you know why?
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Because it was a real story.
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- He went from
being a guy from Texas
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to a pro wrestler to a
pop culture icon.
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- He was the defining
character of a generation.
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The disruptor of the status quo.
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The pivotal player in the
complete re-imagination
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of the industry.
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- I've been retired for so
long, I don't miss it anymore.
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I don't crave it.
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You can never replace it.
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I'm not trying to say that you
can, but I wouldn't say there's
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anything about the life I used
to live on the road that makes
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me yearn to go back in
time and relive those days.
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But I do what I want when I want
right here in this damn ring
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and can't nobody stop me.
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The whole world knows my name
is "Stone Cold" Steve Austin.
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If I'm going straight to hell,
you're damn sure coming with me.
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- "Stone Cold" Steven Austin,
his reign on top
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was second to none.
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- Steve Austin changed the
way the game was played.
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There will never ever
be anyone like him.
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- He's the man responsible for
making WWE more than we thought
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it could ever be.
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- People gravitated
a lot to the energy
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that I brought
to the business.
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[crowd cheering]
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- Steve didn't have a long
career being on top,
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but he had that one peak
that like, wow.
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No one can come close to that.
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- Stone Cold is a showbiz guy.
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Steve Austin is a regular guy.
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They just happened to be
rolled up in the same package.
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- I was born in Austin, Texas,
but we didn't stay there long.
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I grew up in a
little town called Edna.
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I'm proud to be from Texas,
you know, born, bred, raised.
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You know, it's tough, it's
cowboy country,
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and it's-it's rugged.
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I think the reputation of Texas
kind of precedes you
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and the fact that you're
from that state.
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- You know, it's not a
one-stoplight town,
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but we just have
a few stoplights.
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And it's a town where
everybody knows everybody.
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We had a huge
house, our yellow house.
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It was on half of an acre.
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It was great growing
up in a big family.
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Scott's the oldest then Steve
then Kevin, Jeff and then me.
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As a kid, Steve was very shy.
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Yeah, yeah, he was shy.
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- Oh, just shy enough that
when-when we called down to
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Dairy Queen to o-order, you
know, three tacos or whatever,
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you know, hell, I put my
sister on the phone.
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"Jenny, can you
order my food for me?"
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- So, he's seven years older
than me and he would literally
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call me into the kitchen and
hand me the phone to Dairy Queen
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and have me read off his order.
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- I broke out of that shyness
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when I found football
in junior high.
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I used athletics to
help me find confidence.
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- I noticed him when
he was in junior high.
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I was the high school coach.
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He was a physical
specimen, I guess you'd say.
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- When he started seventh-grade
football, that's-- As far as
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long as I can remember, that's
all he wanted to do was
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work out, eat right, and
just build his body.
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- We're eating Little Debbie's
and Captain Crunch cereal.
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And he's over there with the
Blender with this protein stuff
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and putting raw eggs in it.
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And I'm thinking, "What?
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Who does this?"
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You know?
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He does.
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- I was a running back,
and I wasn't very fast.
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But I weighed about 205 pounds.
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And my line averaged about 165
pounds, so I didn't have a whole
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lot of blocking and I ran north
and south because I wasn't fast
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enough to run east and
west and I ran over people.
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- Straight-A student,
National Honor Society.
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Steve never drank
beer or raised hell
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during high school like I did.
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So, every weekend, all my
buddies would come over.
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We're sitting on the back patio,
drinking beer, raising hell,
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having a good time.
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And Steve would open
up his bedroom window.
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"Y'all shut the hell up.
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I'm trying to sleep."
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- He was popular, but he just
had such bigger dreams
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and goals for himself.
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- He used to actually practice
signing autographs
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back in the day.
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We'd be in the kitchen
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and he'd just be writing his
name different ways.
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Trying to check out
which-- what fit best.
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He asked my opinion.
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"What the-- What are
you talking about, man?"
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[chuckles]
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Yeah.
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- At first, you know, I
wanted to be a rock star.
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But I can't sing, play any
instrument-- musical instruments
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so that's out the door.
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- Channel 39
presents Houston Wrestling.
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- One day, my mom
was in her chair
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reading her
Redbook magazine
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and I was flipping channels and
I came across pro wrestling.
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It was Houston Wrestling.
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For some reason, the lighting,
the smoke-filled arena,
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the rope banister
around the ring.
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Uh, one of the guys is just
bleeding like a stuffed pig
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in the ring and it just
resonated with me.
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I was like, "Holy cow."
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I fell in love with
it that-that day.
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- Growin' up, we only got three
channels here
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and the Houston Wrestling
was on every Sunday.
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And Steve always watched it.
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If I wanted to anything else,
he says, "Man, you can have TV
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after wrestling's over with.
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- And apparently, yeah, he
told I guess friends and-and
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my brothers that uh, he was
gonna be a wrestler one day.
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He said those words.
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- Well I'll be doggone.
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- You know, coming
from a small town,
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you don't really get noticed.
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Um, you have to put in a whole
lot of work and you gotta kind
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of get yourself out there
and he was able to do it.
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- Coming out of high school,
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I went to Wharton
County Junior College
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and they offered me a full ride
to North Texas State University.
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And football at that
level was more serious.
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- This is the young man we
talked about--
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- He was a real good player.
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- Yes, real good play by Steve.
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He's played very well,
gotten better every game.
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- I really didn't enjoy the
process anymore
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as far as the education
process goes.
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I had had an absolute
gutful of doing research papers.
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Alegebra number 2 and
Calculus were kicking my ass.
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It just wasn't my cup of tea.
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I was through in college and I
wanted to drop out so I did.
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Oh, we had a connection from
the athletic department at
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North Texas to the
Watkins Motor Lines.
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With 17 hours to go, I just
said, "Man, I'm outta here.
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Let me go work on a freight
dock and make that $400 a week."
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I love driving a forklift.
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I could pull your
tooth with a forklift.
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At Watkins Motor Lines,
we were 30 miles
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from the
Sportatorium in Dallas.
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So me and my buddies would ride
down there and we would
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drink beer and throw stuff at
the wrestlers and raise hell.
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Man, the Sportatorium is the
greatest building in the world,
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atmosphere personified.
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And then I'll never forget,
man, we were out there me
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and my buddy Ralph and he's
giving me the elbow he goes,
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"Man, you're as big as him
because you gotta get in this.
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Man, you oughta be a wrestler."
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I said, "I'mma do it,
I'mma do it, I'mma do it."
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And so I'd-I'd wanted
to for a long time.
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and I'll be damned if I didn't
go home, man, a couple of days
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later and I was changing
channels and there was that
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commercial that Chris Adams put
on for his wrestling academy,
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and I said, "That's it.
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That's-that's my-
that's my way in."
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- Hello everybody, this is
"Gentleman" Chris Adams here
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bringing you exciting news about
our May three-day
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pro wrestling camp.
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You'll spend three full days
working out in the same ring
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that you see on your TV here at
the world famous Sportatorium.
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- The one thing that surprised
me when I showed up that first
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day, I just thought there was
gonna be a bunch of monsters in
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there that looked like me,
killers that wanted to get into
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the business of pro wrestling
but they were just regular
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people off the street.
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- I don't know if I met
Steve as much as I saw Steve.
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I was, uh, injured during match
so I went up in what's known as
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the crow's nest where family and
friends could watch the matches,
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and that happened to be the
first lesson that
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"Gentleman" Chris
Adams was giving
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for his new wrestling school.
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And me and a couple of guys were
laughing about how bad all
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of the trainees were, all of
them except this one guy with
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long blond hair and
definite gift of athleticism.
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And it was clear that he had it
whatever it is,
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he had it right away.
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- By the time
he started wrestling,
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it was mid to late 1989.
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Austin started wrestling
for the USWA
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which was the United States
Wrestling Association.
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So he was wrestling in Memphis
and in Texas and all points
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in between that the
USWA was running.
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- I rolled into Nashville
and I needed a place to live.
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I didn't know where to go and
they said, "Hey man, you know
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try the Congress Inn
out on Dickerson Pike."
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So I rolled in there and uh
checked in, and man,
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I didn't have no money.
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So every week or when-whenever I
had enough money,
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I would pay my rent.
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Times were really, really lean
and I didn't have a hotplate,
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I didn't have a microwave.
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And I remember I went to the
grocery store,
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I bought tuna fish cans,
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I bought some potatoes
and for breakfast lunch
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and dinner I'd eat
tuna fish and potato.
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And after a few days I ran out
of tuna fish, so for breakfast,
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lunch and dinner, I'd peel
a raw potato and eat that.
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A lot of guys ended up living
with dancers and a lot of guys
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knew where all the buffets were,
all of the-- you know, any kind
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of all you can eat thing,
they knew where they were.
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- You had to figure out a
way to survive back then.
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There was a time period there
where I actually the-- I spent
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nights in my car.
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I think I made $11,000 in a year
and put 10,000 miles on my car.
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- You were barely getting by,
and so you're paying your dues,
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traveling 400 miles to make $10.
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- I'm making 15 and $20 you
know a night, making 400-mile
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roundtrips, you
can't afford to eat.
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I remember calling my mom or she
called me and asked me how I was
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doing, and I said "Mom" I
said, "is there any way for my
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birthday this year could
you just send me $40?"
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And it's the only time I ever
asked my parents for money,
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and sure enough a couple of days
later my mom sent me two
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$20 bills and it
meant the world to me
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because I could afford to get
something to eat again.
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That's part of paying your dues,
and I just figured, you know,
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you know, starving or doing
whatever it takes
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because I didn't have a plan B.
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I wanted to be a pro wrestler so
if this is what it takes to be
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one this is what I'm gonna do.
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I showed up to my first
match in Memphis
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and Dutch Mantell
was the booker.
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I go and introduce
myself to Dutch Mantell.
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I said "Hey, man,
I'm Steve Williams.
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I'm here to wrestle."
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He goes, "Your
name's Steve Williams?"
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He goes, "You can't be that here
because there's already
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a "Dr. Death" Steve Williams.
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It'd be confusing on the card."
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And he goes, "You got 15
minutes to come up with a name."
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and he walks away.
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And I'm just two months in the
business, new territory,
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don't know anybody and don't
know what the F to do.
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The match is about to start,
and you know, I'm making a life
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changing decision,
and he goes,
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uh, "All right, what'd
you come up with?"
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I said, "I ain't got nothing."
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He goes, "You're Steve Austin"
and I started calling myself
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"Stunning" Steve Austin.
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And I had a red robe
with sequins on it.
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All I did was wrestle, you know,
go to the gym in the morning,
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get in the car, go wrestle
somewhere, and drive back.
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That was life.
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I was a sponge and I was
absorbing all this information
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from these great minds who would
teach me information that they
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got from
generations before them.
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- I've been very impressed by
Steve Austin's ability
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and how far he's come in
such a short time.
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He's showing that he
has the potential
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to go a long, long way.
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He will be a superstar if he
gets with the right kind
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of people and just sits
back, listens and learns.
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- Yes sir.
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- You watch the matches and you
listen to the crowd and you put
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the two together and watch-watch
they're doing and-and listen
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to the soundtrack,
"Oh, that works.
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That doesn't work."
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Oh yeah, one, two, three.
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- A place like USWA at that
point, it gave those wrestlers
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an opportunity where even if
they were
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only making
10, 20, $30 a night,
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the payoff was maybe someone
from the WWE
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or World Championship Wrestling
at the time might see me
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and they'll bring me up and kind
of they'll be my guardian angel
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and suddenly I'll be
making way more money.
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- Well, I think "Stunning"
Steve Austin definitely has
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a fantastic future ahead
of him in this sport.
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- At that time I was on the
booking committee at WCW which
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was World
Championship Wrestling.
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And we were all challenged and
compelled to try to find some
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new faces, some new young
athletic talents that we could
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build that had potential.
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Gosh, he checked
all those boxes.
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- Back in the day the standard
deal for WCW, and this is crazy,
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you made $75,000
you know, guaranteed.
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You'd go from getting anywhere
from 20 to 60 or $100 a night
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to 75,000 a year.
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It was like the mother-load.
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You know, again this is, uh,
'92, '93, and that's a lot
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of money, especially coming
from where-where I came from.
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- WCW was a little different
level; bigger television
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opportunities, bigger
chance for national exposure.
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- Welcome back to World
Championship Wrestling and I'm
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Missy Hyatt.
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And now, I would
like to introduce
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"Stunning" Steve Austin and the
"Vivacious" Veronica.
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- WCW, I think it was my first
appearance on the ring
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and Missy Hyatt's gonna
interview me,
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and I'm walking
down the aisle
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and I'm just I'm in
another world, right.
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And I can hear the announcer
over the crowd going,
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"And from Hollywood, California"
and I'm like "Man, who the --
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is that guy talking about?"
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I'm walking to the ring,
"'Stunning' Steve Austin."
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[chuckles]
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I was like "When did my Texas
ass with this accent you know
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become from
Hollywood, California?"
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- I would just like to take this
time to welcome you
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to World Championship Wrestling.
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- So I get out there and climb
in the ring and I'm doing this
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interview with Missy Hyatt
and of course I got the biggest
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booger you can have hanging out
of your nose, and I was like,
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"Really?"
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It wasn't- it wasn't a
great first appearance.
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[chuckles]
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- "Stunning" Steve Austin.
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- Steve always had
great natural intensity.
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It wasn't prefabricated,
it wasn't manufactured.
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It was real.
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- You can see that he could tap
into his athletic background to
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bring a reality in the fight
that very few other people
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can match.
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- Ooh, did you see that?
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- He had a solid run
throughout his time in WCW.
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At one point he was part of a
tag team The Hollywood Blondes.
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They were this young, vibrant
arrogant tag team, spitting
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in the wind against the veterans
of that company at the time,
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but he was always one of the
secondary performers
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in the company.
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- I don't think anyone in WCW
ever visualized Steve Austin
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as being the top guy.
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- I was keenly aware that
there-there was that upper level
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and I wasn't a part of it.
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Unless something happened, you
could not break into that-that
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next tier.
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Aesthetically, I
didn't have the right look.
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I didn't have the
right gimmick or persona.
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They didn't think
I was marketable.
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- Get out of my face.
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- From the Land
of the Rising Sun.
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- It was over in Japan
on a three-week tour.
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And the third night of that
tour, I jumped off the top rope
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into a splashing
fly and he moved
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and I tore my right
tricep off my elbow.
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And so, I wrestled for two and a
half weeks with a torn tricep,
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you know.
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And as soon as I get
back to the United States,
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my first major surgery.
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And I remember, uh, getting a
call from Eric Bischoff, who was
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running the WCW at
the time, and he goes,
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"Steve, I'm just,
you know, letting you know that,
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you know, you're getting fired."
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And so that's how it went down.
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Got a FedEx the next day
and I was out of a job.
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I'm sitting there
trying to heal up now.
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The money is
gonna stop coming in.
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00:20:01,667 --> 00:20:04,303
I got bills to pay
and my family to feed.
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00:20:04,437 --> 00:20:05,638
I'm like, "Man,
what am I gonna do?"
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00:20:11,243 --> 00:20:14,413
- So in this upcoming act,
you'll see a director's cut
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exclusive, which is a
more in-depth look
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into The Ringmaster
character and Steve trying
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to discover that character.
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00:20:22,221 --> 00:20:23,389
- He's all business, McMahon.
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He's not in there trying to
impress anybody with how good
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he looks or like how pretty
his hair is or anything.
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He just wants to beat up
people and win matches.
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- I think Steve looks back on
that character in a frustrated
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way because he was coming from a
time in his career at ECW when
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they gave him a mic and he
flexed his skills on the mic
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and he knew he was a good talker
and he knew he was entertaining.
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00:20:47,313 --> 00:20:52,384
- Eric Bischoff told his
secretary to tell her secretary
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to leave a message on my
answering machine for me to call
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Eric Bischoff.
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And then I called Eric Bischoff
and he proceeded
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to fire me over the phone.
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- And he gets to the WWE and
the first thing he is told is,
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"Don't talk."
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00:21:10,669 --> 00:21:12,638
And I think that that was hard
for Steve because he knew
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he was good on the mic.
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He knew he could
cut a good promo.
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So I think when he looks back
on that time, it's frustrating
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because he was
being told one thing
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00:21:20,045 --> 00:21:22,114
and he
believed in another.
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00:21:22,181 --> 00:21:24,450
- Because everybody's
got a price for
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The Million Dollar Man.
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00:21:26,385 --> 00:21:28,354
[laughs]
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00:21:28,420 --> 00:21:30,790
Vince put Steve with me.
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00:21:30,856 --> 00:21:34,126
That's-that's the rub, you know,
'cause when he first started,
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obviously, he was a newcomer,
but, uh, I don't think anybody
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at that time envisioned
just how big he would get.
436
00:21:43,369 --> 00:21:45,905
- He takes himself back into
that moment 'cause you can see
437
00:21:46,005 --> 00:21:47,473
he's thinking, "How did
they not let me talk?
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00:21:47,540 --> 00:21:48,707
That was my strength."
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00:21:48,808 --> 00:21:50,276
And ultimately he
was proven right.
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That was one of the most
memorable things about his
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career was Steve is maybe the
best talker
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in the
history of the WWE.
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00:21:57,583 --> 00:21:59,585
So it's ironic that the first
direction he's given is,
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00:21:59,652 --> 00:22:00,886
"Don't talk."
445
00:22:01,620 --> 00:22:04,523
- The Ringmaster.
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00:22:04,623 --> 00:22:06,625
- But exploring that character
is interesting because it's- it
447
00:22:06,692 --> 00:22:09,328
also is just another example of
how hard it is to be successful
448
00:22:09,428 --> 00:22:11,664
and everything has
to line up perfectly
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00:22:11,664 --> 00:22:13,966
and that includes
a good character.
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00:22:20,105 --> 00:22:23,475
- In September 1995, I was
the owner of the ECW
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and was in charge of all the
creative direction.
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Someone from WCW buzzed me
that Steve was being let go.
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So I called Steve and I said,
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00:22:32,718 --> 00:22:33,886
"Uh, hey, I heard
you got fired."
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- Right off the
bat, the phone rings.
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It's Pauly.
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00:22:36,755 --> 00:22:39,458
Paul calls me and he goes,
"Kid," he goes, "why don't you
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come over and
start working for me?"
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00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:43,762
I said, "-- Paul," I
said, "I-I can't work."
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00:22:43,829 --> 00:22:45,631
I said, "I've got a torn tricep.
461
00:22:45,698 --> 00:22:47,466
- "Oh, hell, kid,
I-I'm-I'm hurt.
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00:22:47,466 --> 00:22:50,102
I can't do anything."
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00:22:50,102 --> 00:22:51,704
"Can you talk?"
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00:22:51,704 --> 00:22:55,107
"Oh, hell, kid, I can
talk all day long."
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00:22:55,207 --> 00:22:57,042
"Come on on up and talk."
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00:22:57,109 --> 00:23:00,813
- And I said, "Man, what do
you want me to talk about?"
467
00:23:00,913 --> 00:23:03,716
He goes- he goes, "Just-just
talk about how you feel."
468
00:23:03,782 --> 00:23:06,418
- "If you're pissed
off, come and vent.
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00:23:06,518 --> 00:23:07,786
Let's talk about that."
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00:23:07,853 --> 00:23:16,028
I wanted that authentic
outrage on my television show.
471
00:23:16,028 --> 00:23:18,264
- Sure enough, there I
am flying up to Philly.
472
00:23:18,264 --> 00:23:22,034
We go to that God dang-- ECW
Arena, which is a complete --.
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00:23:23,002 --> 00:23:25,971
- ECW was- well, it was- it was
purgatory,
474
00:23:26,071 --> 00:23:29,642
basically, probably closer to
hell than purgatory.
475
00:23:29,708 --> 00:23:33,412
- ECW is Extreme Championship
Wrestling, and I dare say they
476
00:23:33,512 --> 00:23:38,384
earned the extreme, uh, moniker.
477
00:23:43,789 --> 00:23:48,527
- At ECW, we were obsessed with
delivering performances that
478
00:23:48,627 --> 00:23:52,298
were going to redefine the
industry, with doing things that
479
00:23:52,298 --> 00:23:54,300
had never been done before.
480
00:23:54,300 --> 00:23:57,036
- There were tables and barbed
wire and blood and guts
481
00:23:57,102 --> 00:24:01,040
and people flying
into the crowd.
482
00:24:03,742 --> 00:24:06,111
- We took in, uh, misfits.
483
00:24:06,178 --> 00:24:08,747
I mean, if there was an island
for misfit wrestlers,
484
00:24:08,847 --> 00:24:10,849
it was ECW.
485
00:24:11,717 --> 00:24:15,621
- Oh, my God.
486
00:24:15,621 --> 00:24:16,889
- I'm the new guy
in the territory.
487
00:24:16,956 --> 00:24:18,023
What's my mission?
488
00:24:18,023 --> 00:24:19,024
What's my goal?
489
00:24:19,024 --> 00:24:20,125
Who am I?
490
00:24:20,225 --> 00:24:21,260
What am I?"
491
00:24:21,360 --> 00:24:22,962
You know,
you're-you're kind of lost.
492
00:24:23,028 --> 00:24:24,697
I'll never forget that
night when I-I cut this promo.
493
00:24:24,697 --> 00:24:26,365
It was about seven or eight
minutes long,
494
00:24:26,465 --> 00:24:29,835
and I just started talking, and
it was a one-take promo.
495
00:24:29,902 --> 00:24:34,573
And everything I
said was how I felt.
496
00:24:34,673 --> 00:24:38,711
You know, a couple of weeks
ago, when Eric Bischoff told his
497
00:24:38,711 --> 00:24:43,382
secretary to tell her secretary
to leave a message on my
498
00:24:43,382 --> 00:24:48,587
answering machine for me
to call Eric Bischoff.
499
00:24:48,587 --> 00:24:50,689
And then I called Eric Bischoff,
and he proceeded to fire me over
500
00:24:50,756 --> 00:24:53,125
the phone.
501
00:24:53,892 --> 00:24:55,794
We're gonna put the US title on
you and then we're gonna take
502
00:24:55,861 --> 00:24:58,297
you here, and then you're
the number one contender.
503
00:24:58,397 --> 00:24:59,965
So then you got
this world title shot.
504
00:25:00,065 --> 00:25:03,802
Well, all -- that
never happened.
505
00:25:03,869 --> 00:25:06,105
When I wrapped up that promo
and they shut off that light,
506
00:25:06,105 --> 00:25:08,907
everybody in that room started
clapping,
507
00:25:08,907 --> 00:25:12,277
- Standing ovation,
and rightfully so.
508
00:25:12,344 --> 00:25:15,948
- He was able to express himself
in a way that you just could not
509
00:25:16,048 --> 00:25:20,386
do, or that we were not
allowed to do in WCW.
510
00:25:20,386 --> 00:25:24,456
- Man, after being held down or
kind of restrained in WCW,
511
00:25:24,456 --> 00:25:25,924
where no one believed in me,
512
00:25:26,024 --> 00:25:28,460
I knew that I had to take
chances on myself.
513
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,964
- You could tell that he was
energized and that he had
514
00:25:32,064 --> 00:25:35,334
an axe to grind and he was
grinding it really well.
515
00:25:35,434 --> 00:25:37,903
- And a lot of people saying
that's kind of- that maybe that
516
00:25:37,903 --> 00:25:41,774
was the genesis of what Stone
Cold would-would come from.
517
00:25:41,874 --> 00:25:45,144
Steve-O-Mania is going run wild
on the ECW, brother,
518
00:25:45,244 --> 00:25:47,079
I'm saying my prayers.
519
00:25:49,948 --> 00:25:55,821
I'm not gonna do this --
anywhere, not even in ECW.
520
00:25:56,555 --> 00:25:59,458
- Well, Jim Ross was always
an admirer of Steve's talent.
521
00:25:59,558 --> 00:26:02,060
So I knew ECW was always
vulnerable,
522
00:26:02,060 --> 00:26:06,432
that Jim Ross would recruit
Steve into WWE.
523
00:26:06,498 --> 00:26:11,236
Once Steve did that interview
on ECW, Jim Ross came after him,
524
00:26:11,303 --> 00:26:12,504
and rightfully so.
525
00:26:12,604 --> 00:26:14,106
How could he not?
526
00:26:14,206 --> 00:26:17,209
I didn't realize how
fast it was gonna happen.
527
00:26:17,276 --> 00:26:21,613
- The WWE was subsidizing
ECW when Steve was there.
528
00:26:21,713 --> 00:26:25,284
So we-we had our eye on him for
quite some time, at least I did.
529
00:26:25,384 --> 00:26:27,753
I just had to wait for the right
place, the right time to get him
530
00:26:27,820 --> 00:26:30,255
to WWE.
531
00:26:30,255 --> 00:26:32,991
- So and then the phone rings,
and it's a maroon phone,
532
00:26:33,058 --> 00:26:34,793
and I'd pick it up.
533
00:26:34,860 --> 00:26:36,061
"Steve.
534
00:26:36,061 --> 00:26:37,396
Vince McMahon."
535
00:26:37,463 --> 00:26:38,697
"Hey Vince, how're you doing?"
536
00:26:38,797 --> 00:26:41,633
"Hey, wanna bring you
as the Ringmaster,
537
00:26:41,700 --> 00:26:43,702
uh, Master of the Ring."
538
00:26:43,702 --> 00:26:47,773
- From a creative standpoint,
the character of the Ringmaster
539
00:26:47,873 --> 00:26:52,277
was the best in-ring
performer and could do it all.
540
00:26:52,344 --> 00:26:54,613
And to me that was Steve Austin.
541
00:26:54,713 --> 00:26:55,914
- And I'm sitting there
listening to Vince make this
542
00:26:55,981 --> 00:26:59,485
pitch, and I'm
like, "Ringmaster?"
543
00:26:59,585 --> 00:27:04,122
First of all, it sounds like --,
but more importantly than that,
544
00:27:04,223 --> 00:27:06,525
I need more money than I'm
making from ECW
545
00:27:06,625 --> 00:27:08,627
and I ain't got
no other options.
546
00:27:08,627 --> 00:27:10,195
So I said, "Sounds good.
547
00:27:10,262 --> 00:27:11,230
Let's do it."
548
00:27:19,338 --> 00:27:22,474
- I give you The Ringmaster.
549
00:27:22,474 --> 00:27:24,276
[laughs]
550
00:27:24,343 --> 00:27:27,412
- First appearance of "The
Ringmaster" Steve Austin was on
551
00:27:27,513 --> 00:27:31,817
the Brother Love Show, and being
Brother Love, I-I gotta host it
552
00:27:31,917 --> 00:27:35,787
and-and do the
introduction of Steve.
553
00:27:35,854 --> 00:27:39,024
- And Ringmaster, right here in
front of everybody, I want to
554
00:27:39,024 --> 00:27:45,664
officially crown you my
Million Dollar Champion.
555
00:27:46,398 --> 00:27:48,100
- We partnered Steve with
556
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:49,668
Ted DiBiase "The
Million Dollar Man".
557
00:27:49,668 --> 00:27:53,972
We immediately put the Million
Dollar Championship on Steve so
558
00:27:54,072 --> 00:27:58,710
that Steve had a claim to, uh, a
championship that he didn't win.
559
00:27:58,777 --> 00:28:01,013
- When I saw the, uh, the
wardrobe or what they wanted me
560
00:28:01,113 --> 00:28:03,849
to wear, 'cause they wanted
me to wear green singlet like
561
00:28:03,916 --> 00:28:05,984
emerald green, the color of
money, and I said,
562
00:28:06,051 --> 00:28:08,787
"I ain't wearing no singlet."
563
00:28:08,854 --> 00:28:11,190
So they made me
some green trunks.
564
00:28:11,256 --> 00:28:13,525
I showed up there with kind of
ha- kind of a half assed- look,
565
00:28:13,625 --> 00:28:15,227
but it was what it was.
566
00:28:17,729 --> 00:28:19,498
- He was known for
the long blond hair
567
00:28:19,498 --> 00:28:20,966
and for being
a great wrestler.
568
00:28:21,066 --> 00:28:23,268
And then he shows up, and
he's got a shaved head.
569
00:28:23,368 --> 00:28:27,506
You know, he has like a
very unaudacious debut.
570
00:28:27,606 --> 00:28:30,642
- Behold, brothers and sisters,
571
00:28:30,709 --> 00:28:32,678
Behold.
572
00:28:32,744 --> 00:28:37,416
The Million Dollar Champion.
573
00:28:37,482 --> 00:28:44,823
Vince told me, "Whatever
you do, don't let Steve talk.
574
00:28:44,823 --> 00:28:48,026
Don't give him a
microphone, whatever you do."
575
00:28:48,093 --> 00:28:50,896
Paul Heyman calls me that day,
and Paul says,
576
00:28:50,896 --> 00:28:53,865
"Bruce, whatever you do,
577
00:28:53,865 --> 00:28:57,836
make sure you put a
microphone in Steve's hand.
578
00:28:57,903 --> 00:29:00,072
Give him the mic, let him talk."
579
00:29:02,007 --> 00:29:05,110
So, I'm kind of in between
a rock and a hard place.
580
00:29:05,110 --> 00:29:09,548
Brother, Ringmaster.
581
00:29:09,948 --> 00:29:14,386
Steve came to me and Steve says,
"Hey, after we do the- the
582
00:29:14,386 --> 00:29:18,824
whole presentation, do you
mind if I say something?"
583
00:29:18,890 --> 00:29:22,027
I said, "Sure, just do it."
584
00:29:22,027 --> 00:29:24,029
- Back up a little bit, brother.
585
00:29:24,096 --> 00:29:26,832
Everybody out there in TV Land,
I'm gonna give you a chance
586
00:29:26,898 --> 00:29:28,467
to be somebody.
587
00:29:28,467 --> 00:29:31,370
Come on, get the camera
on that hand right there.
588
00:29:31,470 --> 00:29:35,574
I want everybody out there in
TV Land to touch your screen
589
00:29:35,674 --> 00:29:39,878
and feel what it's like
to be destined for success.
590
00:29:39,945 --> 00:29:41,813
When I'm sitting there looking
at the guy doing it with the
591
00:29:41,913 --> 00:29:45,384
buzz haircut, like, man, you
know, the emerald green trunks,
592
00:29:45,384 --> 00:29:48,286
it just- it wasn't a great
presentation or a great look.
593
00:29:48,387 --> 00:29:50,389
I'm gonna do it all,
and you're gonna see
594
00:29:50,455 --> 00:29:52,457
what the Million
Dollar Man
595
00:29:52,457 --> 00:29:56,028
and the Million Dollar Champ are
gonna accomplish.
596
00:29:56,028 --> 00:29:58,463
And then I'll have
every single thing
597
00:29:58,530 --> 00:30:00,465
that I want out of the WWE.
598
00:30:05,671 --> 00:30:09,508
- Back body drop, very
impressed with The Ringmaster.
599
00:30:09,608 --> 00:30:13,078
- We made the mistake of
bringing Steve in as a villain.
600
00:30:13,145 --> 00:30:17,082
That's how he was cast
as with Ted DiBiase.
601
00:30:17,149 --> 00:30:19,418
The Ringmaster and the Million
Dollar Man looks great
602
00:30:19,518 --> 00:30:21,420
on-on an 8 x 10.
603
00:30:21,420 --> 00:30:24,856
You know, you got two
amazing personalities.
604
00:30:24,856 --> 00:30:27,426
Teddy and Steve had
little to no chemistry.
605
00:30:29,094 --> 00:30:30,629
It didn't work.
606
00:30:30,696 --> 00:30:32,431
Nobody's fault.
607
00:30:32,497 --> 00:30:34,499
It's just that way sometimes.
608
00:30:34,499 --> 00:30:39,271
- I don't think that Steve was
particularly fond of having
609
00:30:39,271 --> 00:30:42,374
a mouthpiece, having Ted
DiBiase as a manager.
610
00:30:42,908 --> 00:30:46,745
- My Million Dollar Champion, a
man who had a heart like mine,
611
00:30:46,845 --> 00:30:47,813
The Ringmaster.
612
00:30:48,947 --> 00:30:51,983
- Because Steve was
confident in his verbal skills.
613
00:30:52,050 --> 00:30:54,953
- When you combine wealth and
greed, you don't only create
614
00:30:55,020 --> 00:30:59,458
a winner, you create a monster.
615
00:30:59,458 --> 00:31:02,427
Well, that time was hardest
because, you know, on one hand,
616
00:31:02,427 --> 00:31:05,297
it was a great opportunity, but,
you know, there's no as far as
617
00:31:05,397 --> 00:31:09,668
a character or anything,
Ringmaster is not like seeing
618
00:31:09,768 --> 00:31:12,370
Ric Flair or Hulk Hogan,
or something like that
619
00:31:12,471 --> 00:31:15,507
on a billboard.
620
00:31:16,141 --> 00:31:19,911
- I can now look back and I
can appreciate Steve Austin
621
00:31:19,911 --> 00:31:24,716
realizing and feeling deep
down, like, in here that this
622
00:31:24,783 --> 00:31:29,688
Ringmaster character is not
happening because it's not me
623
00:31:29,788 --> 00:31:31,656
and it's not authentic.
624
00:31:31,757 --> 00:31:32,924
- Unbelievable.
625
00:31:33,024 --> 00:31:35,227
Look at the laugh on DiBiase.
626
00:31:44,102 --> 00:31:46,905
- When I joined the WWE, I
knew the-the territory was down.
627
00:31:47,005 --> 00:31:49,074
You know, things weren't great.
628
00:31:49,141 --> 00:31:53,111
They-they-they were getting by,
but, you know, we'd go out,
629
00:31:53,111 --> 00:31:55,113
and I don't know, it seemed like
the houses would be,
630
00:31:55,113 --> 00:31:56,848
like, a quarter full.
631
00:31:56,915 --> 00:31:59,818
But I was willing to be a part
of the system just because it's
632
00:31:59,818 --> 00:32:04,856
so new, it's so big, and I'm so
far low down, you know, that I
633
00:32:04,956 --> 00:32:07,459
ain't got a reason to act like
a big shot, because I ain't.
634
00:32:07,559 --> 00:32:09,828
Because here I am as a
Ringmaster, a new gimmick,
635
00:32:09,895 --> 00:32:11,563
a bad gimmick.
636
00:32:11,663 --> 00:32:15,500
And, you know, you don't
know who and what you are.
637
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:16,735
- He's all business, McMahon.
638
00:32:16,802 --> 00:32:18,870
He's not in there trying to
impress anybody with how good
639
00:32:18,870 --> 00:32:21,239
he looks or, like, how pretty
his hair is or anything.
640
00:32:21,306 --> 00:32:24,476
He just wants to beat up
people and win matches.
641
00:32:24,543 --> 00:32:28,146
- This character is a stretch
because I-I don't know what it
642
00:32:28,246 --> 00:32:30,248
is or what it's supposed to be.
643
00:32:30,315 --> 00:32:32,784
As The Ringmaster, I didn't know
who and what I was or how I'm
644
00:32:32,784 --> 00:32:35,554
supposed to do things,
so it's very confusing.
645
00:32:35,620 --> 00:32:37,789
And after a while, I just
stopped wearing the green trucks
646
00:32:37,856 --> 00:32:39,624
because they weren't
paying attention to me.
647
00:32:39,624 --> 00:32:42,828
So I'm thinking, I don't think
they really got plans for me.
648
00:32:43,829 --> 00:32:47,165
- Vince looked at Steve, saw an
average guy, says, "I don't know
649
00:32:47,265 --> 00:32:50,202
what to do with
him, and that accent.
650
00:32:50,268 --> 00:32:53,672
It's just I can't relate to him.
651
00:32:53,672 --> 00:32:55,073
There's nothing about
him I can relate to."
652
00:32:55,907 --> 00:33:00,946
- My initial impressions of
him was he's wasting my time.
653
00:33:00,946 --> 00:33:02,881
- There was no way to go
with the Ringmaster to make it
654
00:33:02,948 --> 00:33:04,783
marquee.
655
00:33:04,783 --> 00:33:07,085
I don't give a damn
who was doing it.
656
00:33:07,185 --> 00:33:08,353
There's nothing there.
657
00:33:08,420 --> 00:33:11,456
And I said, "Man," I said,
"this gimmick ain't worth a --."
658
00:33:11,456 --> 00:33:14,426
And after six months or so, you
know, Vince is kind of like, "F,
659
00:33:14,426 --> 00:33:16,428
I don't care what he does.
660
00:33:16,428 --> 00:33:18,864
If he's not happy and he wants
to come up with another name,
661
00:33:18,864 --> 00:33:20,232
let him."
662
00:33:20,298 --> 00:33:23,034
And I was living in a log cabin
on 10 acres right outside
663
00:33:23,101 --> 00:33:25,170
of Georgia in Douglasville.
664
00:33:25,270 --> 00:33:27,973
And I was over there in my-my
log cabin, and I was drinking
665
00:33:28,073 --> 00:33:30,809
some beer, and that's when they
had that special on HBO about
666
00:33:30,876 --> 00:33:32,611
Richard Kuklinski "The Ice Man".
667
00:33:35,313 --> 00:33:39,384
Well, Richard Kuklinski was a
hitman, you know, for the mob.
668
00:33:39,384 --> 00:33:40,151
He's cold blooded.
669
00:33:40,218 --> 00:33:41,887
He's remorseless.
670
00:33:41,987 --> 00:33:43,989
I was glued to the set.
671
00:33:44,055 --> 00:33:45,624
When you're sitting there
watching and you got a couple
672
00:33:45,690 --> 00:33:47,526
of beers flowing, and it's
like, man,
673
00:33:47,626 --> 00:33:50,362
this-this could be something.
674
00:33:50,428 --> 00:33:52,964
And I pitched that, and, you
know, that-that was when
675
00:33:53,064 --> 00:33:55,166
all the ideas started flowing.
676
00:33:55,267 --> 00:33:56,968
- That's a tricky situation
where you're fairly
677
00:33:57,035 --> 00:33:59,437
new in the company.
678
00:33:59,504 --> 00:34:02,974
Mr. McMahon has agreed to give
you a character change,
679
00:34:03,074 --> 00:34:05,110
and you were given a
list from creative.
680
00:34:05,176 --> 00:34:08,747
The fact that I can rattle off
more of Stone Cold's names
681
00:34:08,747 --> 00:34:10,582
than the terrible
names that I was given
682
00:34:10,582 --> 00:34:13,018
speaks to just
how bad they were.
683
00:34:13,118 --> 00:34:15,620
- And I just gotten those
three pages of names
684
00:34:15,720 --> 00:34:17,022
like Fang McFrost.
685
00:34:17,122 --> 00:34:18,623
- Snowman.
686
00:34:18,623 --> 00:34:20,058
- Otto von Ruthless.
687
00:34:20,158 --> 00:34:21,626
- Mr. Freeze.
688
00:34:21,626 --> 00:34:23,028
- Ice Dagger.
689
00:34:23,028 --> 00:34:24,062
- Ice Dagger.
690
00:34:24,162 --> 00:34:25,063
- Cool Luke.
691
00:34:25,063 --> 00:34:26,064
- Fang McFrost.
692
00:34:26,064 --> 00:34:27,232
- Cool Cat.
693
00:34:27,299 --> 00:34:28,233
- Chilly McFreeze.
694
00:34:28,300 --> 00:34:30,268
- Chilly McFreeze.
695
00:34:30,368 --> 00:34:33,104
Some of the worst names
you could ever imagine.
696
00:34:33,104 --> 00:34:36,107
- Even given everything else
in the Austin package, if he's
697
00:34:36,107 --> 00:34:38,677
Fang McFrost
or Chilly McFreeze,
698
00:34:38,743 --> 00:34:41,413
we're not having this
interview right now.
699
00:34:43,682 --> 00:34:46,184
- And my wife at the time made
me a cup of hot tea,
700
00:34:46,251 --> 00:34:48,753
and she goes, "Drink your tea
before it gets stone cold."
701
00:34:48,820 --> 00:34:51,523
And she looks at me, she goes,
that's your name,
702
00:34:51,623 --> 00:34:53,625
"Stone Cold" Steve Austin.
703
00:34:53,692 --> 00:34:56,061
You know, I'm not a rocket
scientist, but when she said
704
00:34:56,161 --> 00:34:58,229
that name, I knew
that was the one.
705
00:34:58,296 --> 00:35:00,465
I said, "Okay,
this-this is a good name."
706
00:35:00,465 --> 00:35:03,234
And I wanted to be from
Victoria, Texas, because, you
707
00:35:03,234 --> 00:35:05,570
know, I just thought it had a
good ring to it, a good sound,
708
00:35:06,705 --> 00:35:07,839
but okay.
709
00:35:07,906 --> 00:35:08,773
Now, who is this guy?
710
00:35:08,873 --> 00:35:11,276
Who and what is
"Stone Cold" Steve Austin?
711
00:35:11,343 --> 00:35:12,877
I got me some black boots made.
712
00:35:12,944 --> 00:35:15,547
I always thought black was
badass, and menacing
713
00:35:15,547 --> 00:35:17,515
from Darth Vader, Oakland
Raiders type stuff,
714
00:35:17,582 --> 00:35:19,484
and it fit my persona.
715
00:35:19,584 --> 00:35:22,587
I remember one time we were in
Pittsburgh and we were about
716
00:35:22,654 --> 00:35:25,624
to work Mellon Arena, and there
I was with that buzz haircut.
717
00:35:25,690 --> 00:35:27,459
You know, I looked in
the mirror and I said,
718
00:35:27,459 --> 00:35:29,327
"Man, what are you doing?"
719
00:35:29,427 --> 00:35:31,763
So I buzzed it all off with a
razor and then that's when
720
00:35:31,863 --> 00:35:33,565
I started messing
with the mustache
721
00:35:33,665 --> 00:35:35,100
and finally turned
into a goatee.
722
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,869
So I started-- Once I got that
goatee down, you know, that's
723
00:35:37,969 --> 00:35:40,505
when things started getting a
little bit more menacing
724
00:35:40,605 --> 00:35:43,475
and picked up the
visual that I needed.
725
00:35:49,948 --> 00:35:52,183
- I believed in the character
because the character
726
00:35:52,183 --> 00:35:53,985
was a real person.
727
00:35:53,985 --> 00:35:57,522
Steve totally embraced
the presentation
728
00:35:57,589 --> 00:36:00,792
of "Stone Cold" Steve Austin.
729
00:36:01,426 --> 00:36:03,261
He loved it.
730
00:36:03,361 --> 00:36:04,629
He owned it.
731
00:36:04,696 --> 00:36:06,498
He created it.
732
00:36:08,533 --> 00:36:12,270
He was bold enough to bet on
himself and push, and push,
733
00:36:12,270 --> 00:36:15,073
and push until McMahon almost
threw his hands up and says,
734
00:36:15,073 --> 00:36:17,909
"Okay, okay, let's go.
Let's try it."
735
00:36:18,343 --> 00:36:19,811
He just needs a chance.
736
00:36:19,911 --> 00:36:22,280
Give him a reason to
be a main event guy.
737
00:36:27,786 --> 00:36:30,789
- 1995 to 1996, Stone Cold
starting to find himself
738
00:36:30,789 --> 00:36:32,657
as a character.
739
00:36:32,757 --> 00:36:35,360
And then they had the 1996 King
of the Ring tournament,
740
00:36:35,427 --> 00:36:38,029
which would take place in June.
741
00:36:38,029 --> 00:36:41,066
The King of the Ring is
one night pay-per-view.
742
00:36:41,199 --> 00:36:42,867
Wrestlers all go through this
tournament, and the winner is
743
00:36:42,867 --> 00:36:45,570
pretty much earmarked to
be the next great star.
744
00:36:45,637 --> 00:36:47,238
That's the message
from the company.
745
00:36:47,238 --> 00:36:49,674
We're going to try and push
them, and promote them,
746
00:36:49,674 --> 00:36:52,877
and move them up
behind the scenes.
747
00:36:52,977 --> 00:36:55,647
It had already been planned,
Triple H was going to win
748
00:36:55,714 --> 00:36:58,316
King of the Ring,
but before that,
749
00:36:58,316 --> 00:37:00,885
Triple H ended up punished for
his role in something
750
00:37:00,952 --> 00:37:02,120
called The Curtain Call.
751
00:37:02,821 --> 00:37:05,390
- We did a big no, no in the
wrestling business where all of
752
00:37:05,523 --> 00:37:08,426
us came together in Madison
Square Garden, myself, Triple H,
753
00:37:08,426 --> 00:37:11,996
Kevin Nash, and Scott Hall.
754
00:37:16,835 --> 00:37:20,638
We were expressing a real
friendship out there that had
755
00:37:20,638 --> 00:37:25,009
really nothing to do with
whatever was going on in the WWE
756
00:37:25,076 --> 00:37:26,945
at the time or from a
storyline standpoint.
757
00:37:27,045 --> 00:37:31,316
We were pulling the, uh, curtain
back, uh, more so than anyone
758
00:37:31,449 --> 00:37:34,018
wanted the
curtain being put back.
759
00:37:34,586 --> 00:37:36,187
It's very frowned upon
760
00:37:36,187 --> 00:37:38,356
and Triple H got in
a lot of trouble.
761
00:37:42,427 --> 00:37:43,328
- Yeah.
762
00:37:43,394 --> 00:37:44,629
Oh, yeah.
763
00:37:44,629 --> 00:37:45,897
It was already- It was already--
Vince had sat me down, talked to
764
00:37:45,997 --> 00:37:48,666
me about it, "Here's where I
wanna go, King of the Ring."
765
00:37:48,666 --> 00:37:50,435
And then for me, that
was the next level, right?
766
00:37:50,435 --> 00:37:53,438
And, you know,
that all went away.
767
00:37:54,405 --> 00:37:56,875
- So in the pecking orders, you
looked at it, you looked at who
768
00:37:56,875 --> 00:38:01,713
needed that boost and who
needed maybe just a nudge.
769
00:38:01,713 --> 00:38:03,515
Steve was the guy.
770
00:38:03,648 --> 00:38:06,184
- I'm walking in-in-in the
building, dragging my suitcase
771
00:38:06,184 --> 00:38:08,887
behind me, I hear
this voice, it's Vince.
772
00:38:08,953 --> 00:38:12,157
He goes, "Steve, I just wanna
let you know in two weeks you're
773
00:38:12,223 --> 00:38:15,426
winnning King of the Ring."
774
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,362
I was pretty happy because you
know when you're winning the
775
00:38:17,428 --> 00:38:20,231
King of the Ring, you're going
to get a big shove after that.
776
00:38:20,231 --> 00:38:23,201
And before, there were
no future plans for me.
777
00:38:31,876 --> 00:38:33,711
Go to, uh,
Milwaukee's Mecca Arena.
778
00:38:33,711 --> 00:38:36,281
And I go out there and I'm
working with Mark Mero, and we
779
00:38:36,347 --> 00:38:38,616
do this thing, we're having a
match, and he kicks me
780
00:38:38,683 --> 00:38:41,386
in my mouth and we
finished a match.
781
00:38:41,386 --> 00:38:42,387
I beat him.
782
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:44,289
My mouth was busted
open pretty bad.
783
00:38:44,355 --> 00:38:46,791
So they take me in an
ambulance to the hospital.
784
00:38:46,891 --> 00:38:49,561
And so I get stitched up, 14
stitches or whatever
785
00:38:49,627 --> 00:38:51,229
in my upper lip.
786
00:38:51,362 --> 00:38:53,198
And they bring me back because
I'm gonna wrestle
787
00:38:53,264 --> 00:38:55,767
Jake "The Snake" Roberts in the
finals and I'm gonna beat Jake,
788
00:38:55,834 --> 00:38:57,035
and become
the King of the Ring.
789
00:38:57,168 --> 00:38:59,637
When I come back, my mouth is
stitched up and as soon as I get
790
00:38:59,637 --> 00:39:01,840
out of ambulance,
there's Michael Hayes.
791
00:39:02,240 --> 00:39:04,776
- We're in the back
of the Mecca Arena.
792
00:39:04,842 --> 00:39:08,279
And he came out, he was going
to the ring to go take on Jake.
793
00:39:08,346 --> 00:39:10,315
I mean, literally
going to the ring.
794
00:39:10,448 --> 00:39:11,683
And I said, "Jake
just cut a promo."
795
00:39:11,749 --> 00:39:13,151
He says, "What did he say?"
796
00:39:13,251 --> 00:39:16,754
And I said, you know, he just
uses some Bible quotes and,
797
00:39:16,821 --> 00:39:18,189
you know, that he was gonna win.
798
00:39:18,189 --> 00:39:20,825
- My soul was purchased by
the blood of the Lamb, brother.
799
00:39:20,825 --> 00:39:23,628
So how can I lose if I just go
out there and know the power
800
00:39:23,761 --> 00:39:26,831
above is reaching
down and lifting me up?
801
00:39:26,931 --> 00:39:29,834
- And when he told me that,
I immediately thought of the
802
00:39:29,901 --> 00:39:31,603
football days back in the day
when they're kicking
803
00:39:31,669 --> 00:39:33,905
the field goals a point after,
804
00:39:34,005 --> 00:39:37,275
they always had John 3:16 signs
behind the field goal.
805
00:39:37,275 --> 00:39:39,477
So anyway, we go out there and
we have the match,
806
00:39:39,477 --> 00:39:41,713
myself and Jake, and because my
lip was busted up,
807
00:39:41,713 --> 00:39:44,082
we had a real short match.
808
00:39:44,148 --> 00:39:46,417
After the match, I go over there
to do the interview
809
00:39:46,517 --> 00:39:49,287
with Michael Hayes, who
smartened me up.
810
00:39:49,354 --> 00:39:52,590
You thump your Bible and
you say your prayers,
811
00:39:52,590 --> 00:39:55,526
and it didn't get you anywhere.
812
00:39:55,593 --> 00:39:57,028
Talk about your Psalms.
813
00:39:57,028 --> 00:39:59,998
Talk about John 3:16.
814
00:40:00,064 --> 00:40:04,435
Austin 3:16 says I
just whipped your ass.
815
00:40:05,637 --> 00:40:07,839
- Austin 3:16 says, I
just whipped your ass.
816
00:40:07,906 --> 00:40:10,475
- Austin 3:16 says, I
just whipped your ass.
817
00:40:10,475 --> 00:40:11,809
- He said, I just
whipped your ass.
818
00:40:11,876 --> 00:40:13,645
- I just whipped your ass.
819
00:40:13,711 --> 00:40:16,114
And thus a franchise was born.
820
00:40:16,247 --> 00:40:19,684
- There was a vibe of
like a rocket ship
821
00:40:19,751 --> 00:40:21,986
igniting its
engine to take off.
822
00:40:21,986 --> 00:40:27,525
- That was the moment where the
character really became a star.
823
00:40:27,592 --> 00:40:29,627
That's the epicenter
of the explosion
824
00:40:29,627 --> 00:40:30,728
that eventually happens.
825
00:40:30,795 --> 00:40:32,597
- I remember thinking halfway
through this promo like,
826
00:40:32,664 --> 00:40:35,466
I'm watching this guy get made.
827
00:40:35,466 --> 00:40:39,170
And part of me was like, holy
--, that should have been me.
828
00:40:39,237 --> 00:40:41,673
But also, holy --, I
wouldn't have cut that promo.
829
00:40:41,673 --> 00:40:43,675
- But I think the stitches in
his lip and coming back only
830
00:40:43,808 --> 00:40:48,413
added to the aura
of that interview.
831
00:40:48,479 --> 00:40:50,715
- I just got back from the
hospital, so I just kind of put
832
00:40:50,715 --> 00:40:52,216
that together in my head.
833
00:40:52,283 --> 00:40:54,952
And I didn't know what kind of
holy -- moment that was,
834
00:40:55,019 --> 00:40:56,287
but it was.
835
00:40:56,354 --> 00:40:58,589
And then on the backside of it,
I knew I needed to wrap it up.
836
00:40:58,589 --> 00:41:00,191
I needed to put a button on it.
837
00:41:00,191 --> 00:41:04,996
And that's the bottom line
because Stone Cold said so.
838
00:41:05,630 --> 00:41:07,265
And that's the bottom line
because Stone Cold said so
839
00:41:07,265 --> 00:41:08,666
was on the spot.
840
00:41:08,666 --> 00:41:12,036
I went to bat twice, and I hit
two grand slams out of- out
841
00:41:12,170 --> 00:41:14,972
of an event I was
never supposed to win.
842
00:41:15,039 --> 00:41:17,608
Next night we showed up, all of
a sudden, there's Austin 3:16
843
00:41:17,675 --> 00:41:21,045
signs, and we realized
there might be something here.
844
00:41:24,115 --> 00:41:30,955
- Next night on Raw, you saw all
these Austin 3:16 signs
845
00:41:31,022 --> 00:41:32,724
all over the building.
846
00:41:32,790 --> 00:41:37,028
- I remember thinking to myself
at that time, man,
847
00:41:37,028 --> 00:41:38,529
everything happens
for a reason
848
00:41:38,596 --> 00:41:42,433
because this guy is going
to be massive now.
849
00:41:42,500 --> 00:41:44,836
- One day, I'm talking
to our merch guy
850
00:41:44,836 --> 00:41:46,371
and I'm sitting
in the arena.
851
00:41:46,437 --> 00:41:48,773
He goes, "Steven, office finally
wants to come up
852
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:50,375
with a t- shirt for you.
853
00:41:50,441 --> 00:41:52,076
You got any ideas?"
854
00:41:52,076 --> 00:41:54,278
I said, "You're
goddamn right I do."
855
00:41:54,379 --> 00:41:58,316
I said, "Put Austin 3:16 on the
front, put a skull in the back
856
00:41:58,316 --> 00:42:00,385
and carve in Stone Cold."
857
00:42:00,385 --> 00:42:02,086
"Okay, Steven."
858
00:42:02,153 --> 00:42:03,988
And sure enough, we came
up with that shirt,
859
00:42:04,122 --> 00:42:04,989
and it sold like a sumbitch.
860
00:42:06,190 --> 00:42:09,227
- From that point on, when he
got the chance to speak,
861
00:42:09,227 --> 00:42:10,828
there was an intensity there
that you couldn't help
862
00:42:10,962 --> 00:42:13,464
but want to watch that segment.
863
00:42:13,464 --> 00:42:15,867
The way he walked, the way he
stalked opponents,
864
00:42:15,867 --> 00:42:17,034
the way he looked at people.
865
00:42:17,034 --> 00:42:18,603
He had that icy glare.
866
00:42:18,669 --> 00:42:21,005
Because he was in the zone at
that level, you couldn't help
867
00:42:21,072 --> 00:42:23,408
but be like, "I got to
see what he's going to do."
868
00:42:23,474 --> 00:42:26,677
- Why do you keep
asking me stupid questions?
869
00:42:26,677 --> 00:42:29,914
No second thought, I'll
whip your asses right now.
870
00:42:29,914 --> 00:42:30,915
Shut up.
871
00:42:31,048 --> 00:42:34,185
Stone Cold never gave a
rat's ass about anybody.
872
00:42:34,185 --> 00:42:36,554
I don't know what
pressure is, fat boy.
873
00:42:36,621 --> 00:42:39,290
Because I got a big bunch of
bananas and I can tell you where
874
00:42:39,357 --> 00:42:41,192
to stick each and
every one of them.
875
00:42:41,192 --> 00:42:45,830
You ain't worth the
sweat off of my-
876
00:42:45,830 --> 00:42:47,031
-brow.
877
00:42:47,031 --> 00:42:49,967
My mom used to tell me,
"Steven, if you were on TV,
878
00:42:50,001 --> 00:42:52,437
I wouldn't let you watch you.
879
00:42:52,437 --> 00:42:53,771
You're a piece of garbage.
880
00:42:53,838 --> 00:42:54,872
- Oh, no.
881
00:42:54,872 --> 00:42:56,674
- So you can take your
camera and stick it, son.
882
00:42:56,674 --> 00:42:59,877
I ain't leaving yet and you can
stop counting me down because
883
00:42:59,977 --> 00:43:01,646
I gone and told you once, son.
884
00:43:01,712 --> 00:43:02,880
We got a damn problem.
885
00:43:02,947 --> 00:43:03,648
- Hey.
886
00:43:03,714 --> 00:43:04,415
Wait a minute.
887
00:43:04,482 --> 00:43:05,950
- No more.
888
00:43:05,950 --> 00:43:07,151
- That's a production assistant.
889
00:43:10,154 --> 00:43:12,590
- He is now the guy in
the eyes of the audience,
890
00:43:12,590 --> 00:43:14,225
like he can do no wrong.
891
00:43:14,225 --> 00:43:15,426
They wanna be
part of that chaos.
892
00:43:15,426 --> 00:43:16,828
They wanna be
part of that energy.
893
00:43:16,961 --> 00:43:20,198
They wanna go and experience
"Stone Cold" Steve Austin,
894
00:43:20,264 --> 00:43:22,667
the act live.
895
00:43:22,667 --> 00:43:24,202
- And you really start feeling
that momentum because you're
896
00:43:24,268 --> 00:43:26,437
finally getting the
desired response
897
00:43:26,537 --> 00:43:27,839
that you want
from these people.
898
00:43:27,939 --> 00:43:29,440
So now, now that I'm-I'm getting
that feedback,
899
00:43:29,507 --> 00:43:32,176
I can feed it to you.
900
00:43:32,510 --> 00:43:36,481
Throughout that period of
time, I'm trying my hardest to
901
00:43:36,547 --> 00:43:39,116
entertain you or grab your
heartstrings to make you feel
902
00:43:39,116 --> 00:43:41,552
what I'm feeling, channel that.
903
00:43:41,619 --> 00:43:44,589
I'm doing my damnedest
to try to affect you.
904
00:43:44,589 --> 00:43:49,193
And I guess I was effective at
making people feel emotions.
905
00:43:52,196 --> 00:43:54,665
- That there's a perception that
Steve just came out of nowhere,
906
00:43:54,665 --> 00:43:57,969
that that's a misconception on a
lot of people's parts
907
00:43:58,035 --> 00:44:01,239
Stone Cold lived within and it
took ten years to come out.
908
00:44:04,242 --> 00:44:05,977
- Because if you look at
that time period,
909
00:44:06,043 --> 00:44:07,945
WWE is at its lowest point.
910
00:44:08,045 --> 00:44:09,514
The only way they could have
gone any lower is
911
00:44:09,514 --> 00:44:12,750
going out of business or for the
company to fall apart.
912
00:44:12,750 --> 00:44:15,353
He dragged them into success.
913
00:44:15,419 --> 00:44:18,389
Austin's ascension
is tied intricately
914
00:44:18,389 --> 00:44:20,158
to the ascension of WWE.
915
00:44:20,291 --> 00:44:21,459
We're coming back to life.
916
00:44:21,559 --> 00:44:22,527
The flame isn't dead.
917
00:44:27,298 --> 00:44:30,334
By 1997, Stone Cold is
the hottest he's ever been.
918
00:44:30,401 --> 00:44:32,803
The company's building him as
one of the biggest stars
919
00:44:32,904 --> 00:44:34,505
in their company.
920
00:44:34,605 --> 00:44:35,873
He's driving revenue.
921
00:44:35,940 --> 00:44:36,874
He's selling merchandise.
922
00:44:36,941 --> 00:44:37,975
He's making money.
923
00:44:38,609 --> 00:44:39,777
- But up next, ladies and
gentlemen,
924
00:44:39,844 --> 00:44:41,946
the Intercontinental
Championship matchup.
925
00:44:42,046 --> 00:44:44,081
It's Owen Hart in a title
defense against
926
00:44:44,148 --> 00:44:46,717
"Stone Cold" Steve Austin.
927
00:44:46,717 --> 00:44:49,387
- Me and Owen were going
to have a hell of a match.
928
00:44:49,453 --> 00:44:52,190
And we had had this plan where
he'd end up hitting me with
929
00:44:52,190 --> 00:44:54,859
a tombstone pile driver.
930
00:44:54,959 --> 00:44:56,761
And I said, "You go
down to your knees, right?"
931
00:44:56,827 --> 00:44:57,929
Because I'm
looking for clearance.
932
00:44:57,995 --> 00:44:58,596
He goes, "No.
933
00:44:58,663 --> 00:44:59,997
I go to my ass."
934
00:44:59,997 --> 00:45:01,899
I said, "But seemed like you
got to go down your knees."
935
00:45:01,999 --> 00:45:03,334
He goes, "No."
936
00:45:03,401 --> 00:45:06,737
And when Owen said this is how
I do it, I trusted him because
937
00:45:06,804 --> 00:45:08,773
he's Owen Hart.
938
00:45:08,839 --> 00:45:12,843
And so anyway, we get out there
and things go like they did.
939
00:45:12,843 --> 00:45:16,514
And, man, when he goes to his
ass, and my head is sticking out
940
00:45:16,581 --> 00:45:19,016
about six inches below his ass.
941
00:45:19,083 --> 00:45:22,620
And, boy, I got spiked on
the mat, and it was not good.
942
00:45:22,720 --> 00:45:25,489
- Let's see what
Austin can do with-- No.
943
00:45:25,556 --> 00:45:26,791
How about that
944
00:45:26,791 --> 00:45:28,392
- A gutwrench. Tombstone.
945
00:45:28,459 --> 00:45:30,161
Tombstone Piledriver.
946
00:45:30,161 --> 00:45:31,362
Shades of The Undertaker.
947
00:45:34,865 --> 00:45:36,667
- Yeah, it-it was gnarly.
948
00:45:36,734 --> 00:45:39,804
You could tell immediately that
Steve was, you know,
949
00:45:39,804 --> 00:45:41,172
that he was injured.
950
00:45:41,238 --> 00:45:44,609
- I'm afraid Austin is hurt.
951
00:45:44,675 --> 00:45:49,880
- It sounded like someone hit a
big gong and it was my skull,
952
00:45:49,947 --> 00:45:52,483
you know, striking that damn
ring dead center in the middle.
953
00:45:55,720 --> 00:45:58,155
And then I didn't feel anything
because I'm laying there
954
00:45:58,222 --> 00:45:59,357
and I'm paralyzed.
955
00:45:59,457 --> 00:46:02,360
And I was like, man, on one
hand, I could have freaked out
956
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:05,363
and got scared, but
instead I remained calm.
957
00:46:05,429 --> 00:46:07,798
I was like, "Don't touch me.
958
00:46:07,798 --> 00:46:09,000
I can't move."
959
00:46:09,066 --> 00:46:10,434
And so, he starts buying time
because I think I'm never going
960
00:46:10,501 --> 00:46:11,669
to move again.
961
00:46:15,006 --> 00:46:18,276
- As soon as he got
injured, I called his wife up.
962
00:46:18,342 --> 00:46:22,747
I said, "Did he really get
hurt, or is this a show?"
963
00:46:22,847 --> 00:46:25,683
She said, "No, he-he
really got hurt."
964
00:46:25,683 --> 00:46:27,585
It was 1997.
965
00:46:27,652 --> 00:46:33,357
To this day, I-I-I cry about
it every time I hear about it.
966
00:46:33,357 --> 00:46:35,393
- I'm thinking, I got to
get out of this match.
967
00:46:35,459 --> 00:46:37,228
I got to get out of this
match so we can go back.
968
00:46:37,294 --> 00:46:42,066
And Earl Hebner is our
referee in that match.
969
00:46:42,133 --> 00:46:43,968
And I told Earl, I said,
"Tell him, roll up for the win."
970
00:46:43,968 --> 00:46:45,369
I thought I could start
moving my arms and legs.
971
00:46:45,436 --> 00:46:49,640
And when I tried to, if you go
back and watch that, it's like
972
00:46:49,707 --> 00:46:50,841
my knees are creaking to
get in a crawl position.
973
00:46:50,908 --> 00:46:52,410
And I can't crawl like this
because my hands don't work.
974
00:46:52,476 --> 00:46:55,946
So I had to crawl
using my forearms.
975
00:46:59,283 --> 00:47:05,122
And I give him the initial
thing, and he goes with me,
976
00:47:05,122 --> 00:47:06,223
and he doesn't try to fight it.
977
00:47:06,324 --> 00:47:07,658
It's the worst roll up in
the history of the business.
978
00:47:07,758 --> 00:47:10,861
And, man, I am- I am gone.
979
00:47:10,961 --> 00:47:14,098
I've been, you know, I'm
quadriplegic for 60 seconds
980
00:47:14,198 --> 00:47:16,267
and my world has been
turned upside down.
981
00:47:16,334 --> 00:47:18,569
The referees come to the ring
and they--
982
00:47:18,569 --> 00:47:21,038
Three of them help me up.
983
00:47:21,105 --> 00:47:24,608
I got my arms around their
shoulders, and I-I pull them off
984
00:47:24,608 --> 00:47:25,876
because I wanna get up, and I
wanna address that crowd
985
00:47:25,876 --> 00:47:27,111
and hold up that belt.
986
00:47:27,211 --> 00:47:28,646
And only reason I held up that
belt was to signal to that crowd
987
00:47:28,713 --> 00:47:31,082
that, "Hey, man, I'm cool."
988
00:47:31,148 --> 00:47:33,984
And, man, when you look at that,
my eyes are open,
989
00:47:34,085 --> 00:47:37,688
but I'm worlds away.
990
00:47:37,755 --> 00:47:40,424
The referees help me to the back
and as I'm walking, this leg
991
00:47:40,524 --> 00:47:44,161
is dragging behind me quite a
bit because of my nerve damage.
992
00:47:45,796 --> 00:47:49,967
- I watched Steve stand up on
legs that he couldn't feel.
993
00:47:50,034 --> 00:47:55,372
I don't know how
in the hell still
994
00:47:55,439 --> 00:47:57,441
that he was able to get up.
995
00:47:57,508 --> 00:48:02,246
That's the will that
supersedes what the body can do.
996
00:48:02,313 --> 00:48:03,514
- Everybody
thought I broke my neck.
997
00:48:03,581 --> 00:48:04,548
I didn't break my neck.
998
00:48:04,648 --> 00:48:05,483
I bruised my spinal cord.
999
00:48:05,549 --> 00:48:07,151
I'm a pretty tough guy.
1000
00:48:07,151 --> 00:48:13,190
On that night, I was
1% tough and 99% lucky.
1001
00:48:13,190 --> 00:48:16,160
You know, and that's-that's
why I get a little bit emotional
1002
00:48:16,227 --> 00:48:19,964
about it because if-if anything
would have went any differently,
1003
00:48:20,030 --> 00:48:21,265
I'd have been in a wheelchair.
1004
00:48:21,332 --> 00:48:22,867
I wouldn't be sitting
here talking to you.
1005
00:48:22,933 --> 00:48:26,237
Nothing that ever happened
after that would have happened.
1006
00:48:26,237 --> 00:48:27,805
Everything was on the line.
1007
00:48:27,872 --> 00:48:28,973
- Where's the ambulance?
1008
00:48:29,039 --> 00:48:30,808
Where's the ambulance team?
1009
00:48:30,875 --> 00:48:32,476
- Ambulance.
1010
00:48:32,476 --> 00:48:34,345
You want to just
call 911 or what?
1011
00:48:34,445 --> 00:48:37,414
Get the medics.
1012
00:48:38,849 --> 00:48:40,384
- I was putting a pair of shorts
on and I was sitting up there
1013
00:48:40,484 --> 00:48:44,989
against the wall, and I was
like, well, I was shaking.
1014
00:48:45,055 --> 00:48:47,424
I kinda started crying a
little bit because it scared me.
1015
00:48:47,491 --> 00:48:49,560
It scared me so bad.
1016
00:48:49,627 --> 00:48:52,797
- I think an injury of that
magnitude makes us question
1017
00:48:52,897 --> 00:48:54,799
our own mortality, and that's
not something
1018
00:48:54,799 --> 00:48:57,535
we're often faced with.
1019
00:49:00,404 --> 00:49:03,407
- And I remember I-I passed the
test in the hospital,
1020
00:49:03,474 --> 00:49:07,411
but the doctor said, you know,
"You're pretty --"
1021
00:49:07,878 --> 00:49:09,747
Initially, Dr. Torg said,
1022
00:49:09,847 --> 00:49:12,249
"Man, you're not
getting back in a ring."
1023
00:49:12,316 --> 00:49:14,351
And it's easy for a doctor to
sit there and tell me,
1024
00:49:14,418 --> 00:49:16,387
"Maybe you ought to think about
doing something else."
1025
00:49:16,454 --> 00:49:20,191
But this is what Steve Austin
has done for- does for a living.
1026
00:49:20,191 --> 00:49:21,759
I've done it for eight years.
1027
00:49:21,759 --> 00:49:24,195
Austin 3:16 started
a year and a half ago,
1028
00:49:24,261 --> 00:49:26,330
and I ain't ready to
give that up for nobody,
1029
00:49:26,397 --> 00:49:28,365
and no one's gonna run me
out of wrestling.
1030
00:49:28,432 --> 00:49:31,402
And there ain't a doctor in
the world that can make me quit.
1031
00:49:31,468 --> 00:49:35,706
It took me long enough to get to
the top, and you get to the top,
1032
00:49:35,806 --> 00:49:37,808
and it's like, man, you're
riding- you're riding
1033
00:49:37,875 --> 00:49:41,445
the lightning bolt and you're
going 100 miles an hour.
1034
00:49:41,445 --> 00:49:43,714
Then all of a sudden, man,
out of nowhere,
1035
00:49:43,781 --> 00:49:46,083
you come
to a screeching halt.
1036
00:49:46,083 --> 00:49:48,786
- Here was his opportunity he
worked so hard for
1037
00:49:48,853 --> 00:49:52,823
and like that
could all be over.
1038
00:49:54,425 --> 00:49:57,361
- And after that bad injury, my
anterior delts were on fire for,
1039
00:49:57,428 --> 00:50:00,197
like, a couple of weeks.
1040
00:50:00,297 --> 00:50:01,632
I mean, like, someone
put icy hot on them.
1041
00:50:01,699 --> 00:50:03,367
It was the weirdest thing
1042
00:50:03,434 --> 00:50:05,202
and I didn't think it was
ever going to stop.
1043
00:50:05,269 --> 00:50:07,071
And it turned into an itch.
1044
00:50:07,171 --> 00:50:10,474
And then finally it went away.
1045
00:50:13,277 --> 00:50:16,046
And like, when I took that
piledriver back in the day,
1046
00:50:16,113 --> 00:50:17,848
when those refs
are carrying me out,
1047
00:50:17,915 --> 00:50:21,018
you can watch my left leg kind
of dragging behind me.
1048
00:50:21,118 --> 00:50:22,119
- It's hard to watch.
1049
00:50:22,219 --> 00:50:23,988
- So, like, if I get cold, you
know, that-that leg
1050
00:50:24,054 --> 00:50:25,823
will kind of--
1051
00:50:25,923 --> 00:50:27,024
- Oh, wow.
1052
00:50:27,124 --> 00:50:30,127
- It just doesn't respond the
same and, you know, just--
1053
00:50:30,194 --> 00:50:32,997
When you-when you-when you
bruise your spinal cord
1054
00:50:32,997 --> 00:50:33,998
and bad stuff happens,
1055
00:50:34,098 --> 00:50:36,200
it just-
it doesn't reverse.
1056
00:50:36,267 --> 00:50:41,505
So, um, I've got some
atrophy and stuff like that.
1057
00:50:44,642 --> 00:50:46,844
Coming out of pro-wrestling
business I asked the guys
1058
00:50:46,944 --> 00:50:49,246
that are 5 years older than me
and 10 years older than me,
1059
00:50:49,313 --> 00:50:50,881
"Hey, man, how
are you feeling?"
1060
00:50:50,948 --> 00:50:53,317
So I kinda know what's next,
you know,
1061
00:50:53,417 --> 00:50:54,718
or what they're going through
because I know
1062
00:50:54,718 --> 00:50:57,321
they've been through the
same -- that I have.
1063
00:50:57,388 --> 00:50:58,956
I've never had any neck pain.
1064
00:50:59,023 --> 00:51:00,558
You know, everybody always
thinks, "Hey, man,
1065
00:51:00,558 --> 00:51:02,826
Steve got dropped on his head
and he got a fusion.
1066
00:51:02,893 --> 00:51:04,595
His neck's all jacked up."
1067
00:51:04,662 --> 00:51:05,863
Man, I feel good.
1068
00:51:05,963 --> 00:51:08,232
You know, every now and then,
if I'm sitting around too long,
1069
00:51:08,299 --> 00:51:09,366
I'll get a little gimped up.
1070
00:51:09,433 --> 00:51:10,834
Just got to
stretch it a little bit.
1071
00:51:10,901 --> 00:51:13,003
But I really can't complain
about anything through
1072
00:51:13,003 --> 00:51:16,206
all the surgeries and just the
wear and tear of the road
1073
00:51:16,206 --> 00:51:19,043
for-for what it's worth
through all the stuff.
1074
00:51:19,109 --> 00:51:20,110
I feel good.
1075
00:51:21,312 --> 00:51:24,114
- To WWE's credit, Steve's
credit, they managed to take
1076
00:51:24,181 --> 00:51:27,751
that injury and he
became even bigger.
1077
00:51:28,519 --> 00:51:30,354
- It has been said that anything
can happen here
1078
00:51:30,421 --> 00:51:33,490
in the World Wrestling
Entertainment, but now more
1079
00:51:33,557 --> 00:51:34,758
than ever, truer words have
never been spoken.
1080
00:51:34,825 --> 00:51:37,161
This is a conscious effort on
our part to open the creative
1081
00:51:37,227 --> 00:51:39,797
envelope, so to speak, in
order to entertain you
1082
00:51:39,797 --> 00:51:41,832
in a more contemporary manner.
1083
00:51:41,899 --> 00:51:45,336
- For me, the start of the
attitude era was the day
1084
00:51:45,402 --> 00:51:50,608
in late 1997 when Mr. McMahon
addressed the roster,
1085
00:51:50,674 --> 00:51:53,811
admitted that the
old days were gone,
1086
00:51:53,877 --> 00:51:56,246
and that if we were
going to succeed,
1087
00:51:56,246 --> 00:51:59,683
we would have to put our own
personal emphasis
1088
00:51:59,683 --> 00:52:01,885
into these characters.
1089
00:52:01,952 --> 00:52:05,823
- The attitude era is a point
in time in pro wrestling history
1090
00:52:05,923 --> 00:52:09,193
where WWE got a lot edgier.
1091
00:52:12,696 --> 00:52:15,432
It becomes violent,
it becomes chaotic.
1092
00:52:15,499 --> 00:52:17,368
They pushed
sexuality with women.
1093
00:52:17,434 --> 00:52:22,606
They pushed storylines that
were blatantly over the top.
1094
00:52:22,673 --> 00:52:23,774
- Get that mic out of my face.
1095
00:52:23,841 --> 00:52:25,909
- Everybody felt this
interesting shift that was
1096
00:52:26,010 --> 00:52:29,847
happening in wrestling and that
seismic shift now was away from
1097
00:52:29,847 --> 00:52:33,384
the cartoon era, the
superhero era, if you will,
1098
00:52:33,484 --> 00:52:39,523
in pro wrestling into an
edgier, reality-based program.
1099
00:52:39,590 --> 00:52:43,193
- The attitude era was era of
reality, the era of pushing
1100
00:52:43,260 --> 00:52:46,130
the limits as far as we could.
1101
00:52:46,830 --> 00:52:49,066
It's the golden era.
1102
00:52:50,834 --> 00:52:53,771
- The attitude era, a lot of
it was blending
1103
00:52:53,837 --> 00:52:55,706
reality and fiction.
1104
00:52:55,806 --> 00:52:59,243
It was more real and more
versions of ourselves,
1105
00:52:59,343 --> 00:53:01,011
just with the volume
turned way up.
1106
00:53:01,078 --> 00:53:03,347
Suck it.
1107
00:53:03,447 --> 00:53:07,284
- I would imagine doing the
suck it probably caused more
1108
00:53:07,351 --> 00:53:12,956
suspensions and detentions in
school than any other thing
1109
00:53:12,956 --> 00:53:15,125
in the history of
school in America.
1110
00:53:15,192 --> 00:53:17,961
- We saw the very best in
what people had to offer.
1111
00:53:18,028 --> 00:53:19,430
- It's Austin.
1112
00:53:19,430 --> 00:53:22,299
- And Steve happened to have
been the best of all of us
1113
00:53:22,399 --> 00:53:23,967
at bringing that to the plate.
1114
00:53:24,001 --> 00:53:27,404
He was in a
different stratosphere.
1115
00:53:27,404 --> 00:53:29,807
- It was the era of holy --.
1116
00:53:29,807 --> 00:53:33,210
Steve's glass was the
soundtrack to holy --.
1117
00:53:33,277 --> 00:53:38,415
[Stone Cold's music plays]
1118
00:53:38,482 --> 00:53:41,752
No matter what was
happening, "Holy --."
1119
00:53:41,819 --> 00:53:42,720
Right?
1120
00:53:42,786 --> 00:53:43,821
Like, that was the moment.
1121
00:53:43,921 --> 00:53:45,789
I'm getting goosebumps
right now talking about it.
1122
00:53:45,856 --> 00:53:50,561
[Stone Cold's music plays]
1123
00:53:50,627 --> 00:53:54,698
- Whether it's arena of-of 2,000
or 20,000 or 100,000, they know
1124
00:53:54,798 --> 00:53:57,367
when that glass breaks, there's
a sumbitch coming out there
1125
00:53:57,434 --> 00:53:59,603
to deal out a can of whoop ass.
1126
00:54:02,306 --> 00:54:05,409
- When that glass broke, here
he came with his whole head
1127
00:54:05,476 --> 00:54:07,845
bouncing, you know, and he's
saying whatever he's saying
1128
00:54:07,845 --> 00:54:11,215
under his breath, and you
just see that attitude.
1129
00:54:14,084 --> 00:54:17,020
- I remember the first time I
heard that glass break and I saw
1130
00:54:17,121 --> 00:54:20,557
him walk down to the ring, it
was the first time that I ever
1131
00:54:20,557 --> 00:54:22,793
got goosebumps in
my entire life.
1132
00:54:22,860 --> 00:54:26,563
20,000, 40,000, 60,000 people
were going absolutely insane.
1133
00:54:26,630 --> 00:54:28,565
I said, I wanna
be like that guy.
1134
00:54:28,632 --> 00:54:32,803
In that moment I said, I
need to be a pro wrestler.
1135
00:54:32,803 --> 00:54:36,807
- That was the walk of a guy who
had been down the road, paid his
1136
00:54:36,807 --> 00:54:40,878
dues, learned the business, and
got over despite what anybody
1137
00:54:40,878 --> 00:54:43,247
else thought about him,
this guy's not marketable.
1138
00:54:43,313 --> 00:54:44,882
He's never gonna draw no money.
1139
00:54:44,948 --> 00:54:46,450
The company
finally picked me
1140
00:54:46,517 --> 00:54:48,519
and that's the guy
walking to the ring.
1141
00:54:49,786 --> 00:54:51,421
- The character of "Stone
Cold" Steve Austin
1142
00:54:51,522 --> 00:54:53,757
was a very
reality-based persona,
1143
00:54:53,857 --> 00:54:56,360
which is not what this
industry was built on.
1144
00:54:56,426 --> 00:55:00,230
So, the whole attitude era that
was ushered in was ushered
1145
00:55:00,230 --> 00:55:05,802
in as an extension of the
personality that was brought out
1146
00:55:05,869 --> 00:55:08,839
by "Stone Cold" Steve Austin.
1147
00:55:08,906 --> 00:55:13,644
And that makes him, in many
ways, the most pivotal
1148
00:55:13,744 --> 00:55:18,682
human being and character in
pro wrestling history.
1149
00:55:18,849 --> 00:55:20,484
Now we have to go a
little bit higher.
1150
00:55:20,484 --> 00:55:21,952
Now we have to go a
little bit bigger.
1151
00:55:26,123 --> 00:55:28,992
- In this upcoming act, you'll
see a more extended version
1152
00:55:29,059 --> 00:55:32,429
of the Vince-Steve
rivalry and relationship.
1153
00:55:32,496 --> 00:55:36,600
And when Steve talks about the
moment when that all started,
1154
00:55:36,667 --> 00:55:40,270
he really lights up because
he got to physically
1155
00:55:40,370 --> 00:55:41,972
interact with his boss.
1156
00:55:41,972 --> 00:55:44,208
And for anybody,
if you like your boss
1157
00:55:44,274 --> 00:55:46,810
or you don't like your boss,
it still as appealing
1158
00:55:46,877 --> 00:55:50,347
and exciting to think about
what it would be like.
1159
00:55:50,447 --> 00:55:54,084
But I think, two, it was the
start of the biggest moment
1160
00:55:54,151 --> 00:55:57,187
of his career, his rivalry
with Vince McMahon
1161
00:55:57,254 --> 00:55:58,989
transcended wrestling.
1162
00:55:59,056 --> 00:56:01,758
People would tune into wrestling
to watch what's going to happen
1163
00:56:01,825 --> 00:56:03,327
with Steve and Vince.
1164
00:56:03,393 --> 00:56:05,596
- You can kiss my ass.
1165
00:56:09,533 --> 00:56:11,468
- And Steve looks back on that
time fondly because it
1166
00:56:11,568 --> 00:56:15,405
worked out, and it was exactly
what the WWE needed at the time.
1167
00:56:15,472 --> 00:56:17,874
And I think Steve is
proud of that interaction.
1168
00:56:17,941 --> 00:56:19,810
And I think that when he looks
back on those moments,
1169
00:56:19,876 --> 00:56:21,478
it's nothing but
good memories because
1170
00:56:21,545 --> 00:56:23,614
of how successful
the rivalry was.
1171
00:56:29,253 --> 00:56:32,923
- Welcome everyone to the
world's most famous arena,
1172
00:56:32,990 --> 00:56:35,926
Madison Square Garden.
1173
00:56:35,993 --> 00:56:40,364
- Vince knew if I stunned his --
in Madison Square Garden,
1174
00:56:40,430 --> 00:56:43,600
people would go ballistic.
1175
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:45,402
- What's the matter with you?
1176
00:56:45,469 --> 00:56:48,739
- At that time, I don't believe
Steve had ever put his hands
1177
00:56:48,805 --> 00:56:53,844
on Vince and it was so taboo to
put your hands on your boss.
1178
00:56:53,910 --> 00:56:55,946
- In other words, you simply--
1179
00:56:56,046 --> 00:56:58,348
You got to work
within the system.
1180
00:56:58,448 --> 00:56:59,850
And I thought, wow,
1181
00:56:59,850 --> 00:57:03,186
this is really going to
work and work big.
1182
00:57:03,253 --> 00:57:06,156
- If that's what it takes to
make you
1183
00:57:06,223 --> 00:57:09,459
or the World Wrestling
Entertainment happy,
1184
00:57:09,559 --> 00:57:11,795
I'll work within your stupid
little system.
1185
00:57:11,862 --> 00:57:15,332
- I remember crowding around the
monitor that night at the Garden
1186
00:57:15,399 --> 00:57:18,135
when Steve finally
stunned Mr. McMahon.
1187
00:57:20,604 --> 00:57:23,140
- Oh, God.
1188
00:57:23,140 --> 00:57:26,910
Austin just stunned Mr. McMahon.
1189
00:57:27,010 --> 00:57:29,079
- You saw Steve being rebellious
against everybody,
1190
00:57:29,146 --> 00:57:33,650
including the off-limits people,
you know, Vince.
1191
00:57:33,717 --> 00:57:34,885
Oh, my God.
1192
00:57:34,952 --> 00:57:36,386
He touched Vince McMahon.
1193
00:57:36,453 --> 00:57:38,121
- Put him in jail.
1194
00:57:38,188 --> 00:57:40,490
Put him in jail right now.
1195
00:57:41,625 --> 00:57:44,761
- I thought it was
premier, hokey as --.
1196
00:57:44,828 --> 00:57:46,997
but premier.
1197
00:57:47,064 --> 00:57:50,500
- Vince McMahon is out.
1198
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:53,970
- The stunner in Madison Square
Garden started it all because
1199
00:57:54,037 --> 00:57:56,840
we almost botched it.
1200
00:57:56,907 --> 00:57:58,442
I remember
kicking him in the gut.
1201
00:57:58,508 --> 00:58:00,043
He'd bent over and I grabbed his
head, and almost slipped out.
1202
00:58:00,110 --> 00:58:03,447
And we're going down.
1203
00:58:03,447 --> 00:58:05,716
I'm like, aw.
1204
00:58:05,782 --> 00:58:07,918
I won't say we
nailed it, but we did it.
1205
00:58:07,984 --> 00:58:12,289
And so, the roof
blew off the place.
1206
00:58:15,726 --> 00:58:18,795
- I thought Steve broke his
larynx because Vince
1207
00:58:18,862 --> 00:58:19,663
went straight down.
1208
00:58:19,763 --> 00:58:20,831
Oh, my gosh.
1209
00:58:20,897 --> 00:58:22,065
All of us in the
back were looking.
1210
00:58:22,165 --> 00:58:23,700
We're like, "Oh, my God."
1211
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:25,769
Like, "Check on him," we
sent the medical guys.
1212
00:58:25,836 --> 00:58:28,238
Literally, I thought
he popped his larynx.
1213
00:58:29,639 --> 00:58:34,010
- Stone Cold just
dropped the owner of WWE.
1214
00:58:34,077 --> 00:58:38,515
There ain't nobody safe
when Steve Austin is in town.
1215
00:58:41,318 --> 00:58:44,388
- Vince went down like a
piece of cooked spaghetti.
1216
00:58:44,454 --> 00:58:48,225
It was funny and, uh, quite
enjoyable for a lot of laughs
1217
00:58:48,325 --> 00:58:51,528
for a few months
after that with the boys.
1218
00:58:52,028 --> 00:58:53,630
- It's not like we went
out and practiced it.
1219
00:58:53,697 --> 00:58:55,365
And his motor skills are a
little bit different than one
1220
00:58:55,365 --> 00:58:57,768
of the boys who's in
the ring every night.
1221
00:58:57,768 --> 00:59:00,470
We just assumed that he knew
how to do it
1222
00:59:00,570 --> 00:59:02,906
because he's seen
a bunch of them.
1223
00:59:05,642 --> 00:59:09,579
- I am the worst performer in
the world in terms
1224
00:59:09,579 --> 00:59:10,680
of taking that stunner.
1225
00:59:10,747 --> 00:59:12,916
I still don't know how to do it.
1226
00:59:17,421 --> 00:59:19,523
- The worst person to ever take
the stunner is Vince McMahon
1227
00:59:19,523 --> 00:59:22,092
because he's not a very
coordinated person,
1228
00:59:22,159 --> 00:59:25,996
and he knows it just
as well as I do.
1229
00:59:27,497 --> 00:59:30,767
- It was- it was ugly.
1230
00:59:31,835 --> 00:59:33,570
- Stunner, stunner.
1231
00:59:33,637 --> 00:59:36,106
Austin stuns McMahon.
1232
00:59:36,206 --> 00:59:38,575
- The worst I've ever seen.
1233
00:59:39,810 --> 00:59:42,045
- The fact that Vince took the
worst stunner of all time
1234
00:59:42,112 --> 00:59:43,713
didn't even seem to matter
1235
00:59:43,780 --> 00:59:45,849
because everyone saw what
they wanted to see.
1236
00:59:45,849 --> 00:59:47,884
They saw Steve stun the boss,
1237
00:59:47,951 --> 00:59:49,920
which is what
everybody had wanted.
1238
00:59:58,161 --> 01:00:00,664
- Vince may have taken a
bowling shoe, ugly stunner.
1239
01:00:00,764 --> 01:00:03,800
But of all the stunners that
Steve delivered, the ones
1240
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:06,236
to Mr. McMahon
are, quite frankly,
1241
01:00:06,303 --> 01:00:08,839
arguably the most memorable.
1242
01:00:08,905 --> 01:00:11,007
- Stunner.
1243
01:00:11,007 --> 01:00:13,276
- Stunner.
1244
01:00:14,845 --> 01:00:17,481
- Vince McMahon just got
stunned out of his shoes.
1245
01:00:17,547 --> 01:00:19,549
- It was entertaining
to see Steve Austin
1246
01:00:19,649 --> 01:00:21,852
kick the crap out
of Mr. McMahon.
1247
01:00:21,918 --> 01:00:22,719
- Why did he do that?
1248
01:00:22,786 --> 01:00:24,421
What for?
1249
01:00:24,521 --> 01:00:26,957
- Out of all the people that
I gave a stunner to, I always
1250
01:00:27,023 --> 01:00:30,827
loved stunning Vince because of
what it stood for, you know,
1251
01:00:30,894 --> 01:00:33,263
me stunning him,
him being my boss,
1252
01:00:33,363 --> 01:00:36,099
and the evil things that
he was trying to do to me.
1253
01:00:42,706 --> 01:00:46,209
- Stone Cold's success in the
attitude era can be attributed
1254
01:00:46,276 --> 01:00:48,478
to many people.
1255
01:00:48,545 --> 01:00:54,684
But in order for your star hero
to become successful,
1256
01:00:54,684 --> 01:00:59,322
he has to have real
viable villains.
1257
01:01:00,123 --> 01:01:02,559
Vince McMahon
was the greatest villain
1258
01:01:02,626 --> 01:01:05,128
in the attitude era bar none.
1259
01:01:07,297 --> 01:01:10,967
- Vince could show up in some
way, take away like that thing
1260
01:01:11,034 --> 01:01:14,971
that you desperately wanted as
a fan, and it drove me insane.
1261
01:01:15,038 --> 01:01:17,207
And that's why the attitude
error was so popular,
1262
01:01:17,274 --> 01:01:21,111
was that Vince versus
Stone Cold rivalry.
1263
01:01:21,211 --> 01:01:25,081
- Vince and I were tailor-made
for each other to work together.
1264
01:01:25,148 --> 01:01:27,884
Vince was unique
because he was the owner.
1265
01:01:27,951 --> 01:01:29,085
Now he's feuding with me.
1266
01:01:29,085 --> 01:01:30,787
It's a real storyline.
1267
01:01:30,854 --> 01:01:32,422
You can kiss my ass.
1268
01:01:40,297 --> 01:01:42,666
All of a sudden, it
wasn't just about wrestling.
1269
01:01:42,732 --> 01:01:47,370
It was about this guy who is an
employee against his boss,
1270
01:01:47,437 --> 01:01:50,507
and everybody's an
employee that has a boss.
1271
01:01:50,607 --> 01:01:52,576
And a lot of times, the employee
has not liked
1272
01:01:52,642 --> 01:01:54,678
what the boss has done
or said to him.
1273
01:01:54,744 --> 01:01:56,246
- Screw you.
1274
01:01:56,313 --> 01:01:58,648
You're fired.
1275
01:01:58,648 --> 01:02:01,151
- Vince is crazy
and he really is.
1276
01:02:01,484 --> 01:02:05,422
That stuff is not far from what
Vince would do
1277
01:02:05,522 --> 01:02:07,924
as to what Mr. McMahon did.
1278
01:02:07,924 --> 01:02:12,996
- Mr. McMahon is a character no
way in the world like-like me.
1279
01:02:13,063 --> 01:02:14,631
We'll start with that.
1280
01:02:14,698 --> 01:02:16,166
Um, but he's arrogant.
1281
01:02:16,232 --> 01:02:23,406
I am a handsome,
affluent entrepreneur.
1282
01:02:23,473 --> 01:02:24,407
He's rich.
1283
01:02:24,474 --> 01:02:26,610
I said, black tie.
1284
01:02:26,610 --> 01:02:28,878
He can treat people like crap.
1285
01:02:28,945 --> 01:02:32,148
The thought of you, Austin,
makes me physically ill,
1286
01:02:32,248 --> 01:02:33,917
makes me wanna vomit.
1287
01:02:34,818 --> 01:02:37,787
- Everyday people saw something
of themselves in Steve, and they
1288
01:02:37,854 --> 01:02:41,491
saw Mr. McMahon as the system
that was holding them down.
1289
01:02:41,558 --> 01:02:44,361
- Nobody, especially Vince
McMahon,
1290
01:02:44,427 --> 01:02:47,964
tells Stone Cold Steve
Austin what to do.
1291
01:02:47,964 --> 01:02:50,300
And that's the bottom line.
1292
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:52,369
- It was the consummate
working-class hero,
1293
01:02:52,369 --> 01:02:56,439
"Stone Cold" Steve Austin
against the machine.
1294
01:02:58,942 --> 01:03:02,612
Steve was the rage
against the machine.
1295
01:03:02,612 --> 01:03:04,347
- The Rattlesnake is here.
1296
01:03:04,447 --> 01:03:05,148
Oh, my God.
1297
01:03:05,248 --> 01:03:06,449
I don't believe this.
1298
01:03:06,449 --> 01:03:08,785
That's one of the Corvettes
of Mr. McMahon's collections.
1299
01:03:08,885 --> 01:03:10,954
- That's a $50,000 car.
1300
01:03:11,021 --> 01:03:14,524
- At that time, everybody wanted
to be Stone Cold Steve Austin.
1301
01:03:14,591 --> 01:03:20,363
He captured
everybody's feelings perfectly.
1302
01:03:20,363 --> 01:03:26,436
- You are the world's
dumbest son of a bitch.
1303
01:03:26,503 --> 01:03:28,238
Vince was like a kid in a candy
store getting to work
1304
01:03:28,304 --> 01:03:31,374
with me because he always
wanted to be a wrestler.
1305
01:03:31,441 --> 01:03:33,643
He finally got a
chance to perform,
1306
01:03:33,710 --> 01:03:36,146
not just oversee and
give instructions.
1307
01:03:36,246 --> 01:03:39,115
If you go back, man, you watch
some of the blue jeans I wore,
1308
01:03:39,182 --> 01:03:41,985
some of the shorts I wore
would get ringing tight.
1309
01:03:42,085 --> 01:03:44,988
I couldn't physically
pick my leg up high enough.
1310
01:03:45,055 --> 01:03:46,890
Always the target is the gut.
1311
01:03:46,956 --> 01:03:48,792
But when you can't pick
your leg up high enough,
1312
01:03:48,858 --> 01:03:51,261
right below the stomach
is the testicles.
1313
01:03:51,361 --> 01:03:52,929
- He didn't know where
those kicks were going.
1314
01:03:52,996 --> 01:03:55,365
We really- I had no idea.
1315
01:03:55,365 --> 01:03:56,332
He had no idea.
1316
01:03:56,332 --> 01:03:57,500
He was going to make
contact with something
1317
01:03:57,600 --> 01:03:59,169
that was in front of him.
1318
01:03:59,235 --> 01:04:04,874
- So many times I kicked him
right the jewels and he just go,
1319
01:04:04,941 --> 01:04:06,810
"God damn it, Steve."
1320
01:04:06,810 --> 01:04:09,979
- You know, if Steve kicks you
in the Netherlands or something
1321
01:04:09,979 --> 01:04:14,884
like that, it's
easy to sell that.
1322
01:04:15,752 --> 01:04:17,921
- We had to keep upping
the game a little bit, so-
1323
01:04:17,987 --> 01:04:19,122
- Stone Cold!
1324
01:04:19,122 --> 01:04:22,125
- What could Stone
Cold do to up the ante?
1325
01:04:22,125 --> 01:04:23,760
We had boards of stuff.
1326
01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:24,994
- What the hell can Steve do?
1327
01:04:25,061 --> 01:04:25,862
Something crazy.
1328
01:04:25,962 --> 01:04:26,930
I don't know.
1329
01:04:26,996 --> 01:04:29,599
Drive a Zamboni to the ring?
1330
01:04:29,666 --> 01:04:33,336
Seriously, that's
how it happened.
1331
01:04:33,837 --> 01:04:38,641
- This Zamboni incident, we
did Vince in the hospital.
1332
01:04:38,708 --> 01:04:40,977
- There you see, Mr.
McMahon via satellite.
1333
01:04:41,044 --> 01:04:42,579
- I want apple juice.
1334
01:04:42,645 --> 01:04:43,913
- Oh, man, that was a great one.
1335
01:04:43,980 --> 01:04:45,115
So I go out there.
1336
01:04:45,181 --> 01:04:46,449
- How about you, Doctor?
1337
01:04:46,516 --> 01:04:50,987
- Oh, I'll take it
from here, nurse.
1338
01:04:51,054 --> 01:04:51,821
And I said, "Man, I'm worried
about hitting you
1339
01:04:51,921 --> 01:04:53,189
with that bed pan."
1340
01:04:53,256 --> 01:04:54,924
Because that was
stainless steel bed pan.
1341
01:04:54,924 --> 01:04:56,693
Man, that sumbitch is hard.
1342
01:04:56,693 --> 01:04:58,795
He said, "God damn,
Steve, you got to."
1343
01:04:58,862 --> 01:05:00,830
- And I'm watching Steve,
and he's walking up
1344
01:05:00,897 --> 01:05:03,266
and down the hallway hospital.
1345
01:05:03,333 --> 01:05:06,970
And he's hitting his
head with the damn bed pan.
1346
01:05:07,036 --> 01:05:08,938
- I was kinda just bouncing it.
1347
01:05:09,005 --> 01:05:11,808
When you hit people with objects
for a living, you become
1348
01:05:11,808 --> 01:05:15,879
an expert at hitting people, you
know, with objects for a living.
1349
01:05:15,945 --> 01:05:18,414
So when I swung it, boy, I just
reached up and grabbed it,
1350
01:05:18,481 --> 01:05:22,986
and nailed him with it.
1351
01:05:23,052 --> 01:05:25,121
- It ain't ballet as the
expression goes, you know.
1352
01:05:25,121 --> 01:05:26,156
- Help me please.
1353
01:05:26,222 --> 01:05:27,323
- This is going to hurt you a
lot more than
1354
01:05:27,323 --> 01:05:28,124
this is going to hurt me.
1355
01:05:28,191 --> 01:05:28,958
[yelling]
1356
01:05:29,025 --> 01:05:29,959
- I love Vince.
1357
01:05:30,026 --> 01:05:32,796
The guy would do absolutely
anything for me
1358
01:05:32,862 --> 01:05:35,031
and I would for him too.
1359
01:05:35,098 --> 01:05:37,400
- Again, every now and then,
someone very special
1360
01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:41,871
would come along and um
Steve is that guy.
1361
01:05:41,971 --> 01:05:43,807
- Man, there's a period there
where everything we did
1362
01:05:43,873 --> 01:05:46,409
was a home run
and a grand slam.
1363
01:05:46,476 --> 01:05:50,013
And if you had a double or
triple, that was a bad day.
1364
01:05:51,481 --> 01:05:54,284
- At his peak, Steve was one of
the most recognizable
1365
01:05:54,284 --> 01:05:56,986
faces in the world.
1366
01:05:59,923 --> 01:06:03,660
- Austin 3:16 shirts
were now in Spencer's Gifts
1367
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:06,362
and Hot Topic,
and Walmart.
1368
01:06:06,362 --> 01:06:10,800
And you go in Foley's or
Macy's and there's Austin 3:16.
1369
01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:13,036
It was everywhere.
1370
01:06:13,102 --> 01:06:14,370
- And of course, you know, he
had one quarter
1371
01:06:14,437 --> 01:06:16,206
where he made a million
dollars selling t-shirts.
1372
01:06:16,272 --> 01:06:19,676
- If you look at any sales chart
Steve Austin's t-shirts
1373
01:06:19,742 --> 01:06:23,346
are still amongst the best
sellers in WWE to this day.
1374
01:06:24,781 --> 01:06:26,649
- Well, it first hit me when me
and my wife
1375
01:06:26,716 --> 01:06:28,084
went out to Las Vegas.
1376
01:06:28,151 --> 01:06:30,353
Every single person I saw
walking the streets,
1377
01:06:30,420 --> 01:06:33,323
everybody has Steve
Austin t-shirts on.
1378
01:06:33,323 --> 01:06:34,791
It's crazy.
1379
01:06:39,295 --> 01:06:42,265
- If you turned on the
TV, all of the night shows.
1380
01:06:42,365 --> 01:06:45,869
- Please welcome,
Stone Cold Steve Austin.
1381
01:06:45,969 --> 01:06:48,204
- It's good to be here.
1382
01:06:49,439 --> 01:06:55,078
- "Stone Cold" Steve
Austin for the block.
1383
01:06:55,144 --> 01:06:57,013
- Any show like
that, he was on it.
1384
01:06:57,080 --> 01:06:58,548
Commercials.
1385
01:07:01,317 --> 01:07:02,452
- Can I get one more of those?
1386
01:07:02,518 --> 01:07:04,120
- Sure.
1387
01:07:04,187 --> 01:07:06,756
- Wrestling just
came in like a tsunami.
1388
01:07:07,357 --> 01:07:08,124
- Thanks, Dan.
1389
01:07:08,191 --> 01:07:09,292
That helps.
1390
01:07:09,359 --> 01:07:11,661
- Sports Center wasn't
embracing wrestling back then.
1391
01:07:11,761 --> 01:07:16,900
And I just remember this tidal
wave of whether you're accepting
1392
01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:19,736
us or not, here we come.
1393
01:07:19,802 --> 01:07:23,373
I wasn't even a wrestling fan,
but he was so big,
1394
01:07:23,439 --> 01:07:24,707
he crossed
over into mainstream.
1395
01:07:24,807 --> 01:07:28,011
- We'd like to welcome
back Stone Cold Steve Austin.
1396
01:07:28,077 --> 01:07:29,512
- He was bigger than wrestling.
1397
01:07:29,579 --> 01:07:32,282
People who aren't wrestling fans
or don't care about wrestling
1398
01:07:32,348 --> 01:07:35,285
even they knew
who Stone Cold was.
1399
01:07:35,285 --> 01:07:37,086
- When you crossover like that,
1400
01:07:37,153 --> 01:07:39,088
that's when you
know you've made it.
1401
01:07:39,155 --> 01:07:40,123
- Hey, man.
1402
01:07:40,590 --> 01:07:41,724
- Nice to meet you too.
1403
01:07:41,791 --> 01:07:42,425
Thank you very much.
1404
01:07:42,525 --> 01:07:44,394
I appreciate it.
1405
01:07:44,460 --> 01:07:47,764
When Austin 3:16 became so hot
and everybody had heard about it
1406
01:07:47,830 --> 01:07:50,967
that we would be, you know,
in an airport and I'd get
1407
01:07:51,034 --> 01:07:53,336
preachers, and-and priests,
and religious people, you know,
1408
01:07:53,403 --> 01:07:56,205
They'd say, "Hey, man, is it
okay if I get your autograph?"
1409
01:07:56,272 --> 01:07:57,240
And I said, "Sure."
1410
01:07:57,307 --> 01:07:58,474
I said, "I thought
you'd be mad at me
1411
01:07:58,541 --> 01:08:00,209
for inventing the
Austin 3:16 thing."
1412
01:08:00,209 --> 01:08:02,045
He said, "Oh, no,
we don't care."
1413
01:08:03,046 --> 01:08:07,116
- Steve's legacy is one that
kinda makes it hard
1414
01:08:07,183 --> 01:08:10,987
for us to be WWE Superstars.
1415
01:08:11,054 --> 01:08:13,690
His impact is felt in a way that
none of us can kinda
1416
01:08:13,756 --> 01:08:15,625
compare to him.
1417
01:08:15,725 --> 01:08:17,627
You know, we certainly try,
but there's always gonna be
1418
01:08:17,694 --> 01:08:22,565
somebody somewhere that's
gonna say, "Pretty good.
1419
01:08:22,565 --> 01:08:24,634
Not Stone Cold, though."
1420
01:08:25,768 --> 01:08:32,508
[crowd cheers]
1421
01:08:32,608 --> 01:08:35,678
- When it was at its peak
during the Attitude Era,
1422
01:08:36,145 --> 01:08:38,481
it was Mob City.
1423
01:08:38,548 --> 01:08:40,149
Uh, it's like The
Beatles just landed.
1424
01:08:40,249 --> 01:08:41,951
It was amazing.
1425
01:08:42,018 --> 01:08:43,119
It sounds glamorous,
1426
01:08:43,186 --> 01:08:46,889
but you're choosing to
be on the road a lot.
1427
01:08:46,956 --> 01:08:50,560
You have to love the business
to put yourself through that.
1428
01:08:50,626 --> 01:08:54,330
That's where you really start
evaluating your entire life.
1429
01:09:03,573 --> 01:09:07,176
- When you're going to an
interview, one of the most
1430
01:09:07,243 --> 01:09:10,613
challenging parts of the
interview besides the questions
1431
01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:14,884
is how do we make this interview
look good and how do we make the
1432
01:09:14,951 --> 01:09:17,987
interview look true to the
person that you're interviewing?
1433
01:09:17,987 --> 01:09:21,591
Steve had been posting a lot of
Instagram posts about his car,
1434
01:09:21,724 --> 01:09:22,892
Blue.
1435
01:09:22,959 --> 01:09:27,830
It was a 1966 Chevrolet C10.
1436
01:09:27,830 --> 01:09:30,600
We got to his ranch and that car
was prominently featured
1437
01:09:30,666 --> 01:09:31,868
when we pulled up.
1438
01:09:31,968 --> 01:09:35,038
So our DP, Tom McCallum, had the
great idea of incorporating
1439
01:09:35,038 --> 01:09:39,575
that into the interview and I
think the car to us,
1440
01:09:39,642 --> 01:09:42,779
it really represented where
Steve kinda was in his life.
1441
01:09:42,845 --> 01:09:43,846
It was cool.
1442
01:09:43,913 --> 01:09:45,448
It was simple.
1443
01:09:45,515 --> 01:09:46,716
It was elegant.
1444
01:09:46,716 --> 01:09:50,153
It stood out, but it wasn't
too flashy, and I think that car
1445
01:09:50,153 --> 01:09:52,989
just felt sort of like an
extension of Steve at the time,
1446
01:09:52,989 --> 01:09:56,159
so we knew we wanted to-to make
it prominent in the interview
1447
01:09:56,225 --> 01:09:59,062
because there is this odd
connection that you could feel
1448
01:09:59,162 --> 01:10:03,199
between Steve and that car, and
it just was natural that it was
1449
01:10:03,266 --> 01:10:04,801
a part of the interview look.
1450
01:10:15,078 --> 01:10:18,314
- Man, when you're running like
I was a-at-at my peak, it's hard
1451
01:10:18,314 --> 01:10:21,751
to do anything other than be
a pro-wrestler because it-it
1452
01:10:21,884 --> 01:10:23,753
consumes everything about you.
1453
01:10:23,753 --> 01:10:30,560
You are in go mode 24/7, 365.
1454
01:10:30,626 --> 01:10:32,462
You are a slave to the road
and you never wanna come off
1455
01:10:32,562 --> 01:10:34,764
the road because if-if you come
off the road, you get soft.
1456
01:10:34,831 --> 01:10:36,833
So I was never home.
1457
01:10:36,833 --> 01:10:40,369
That's a recipe for disaster.
1458
01:10:41,838 --> 01:10:44,907
It's all looks fun when you're
seeing it on TV,
1459
01:10:45,007 --> 01:10:46,642
but it ain't always TV.
1460
01:10:46,742 --> 01:10:49,378
TV's a very small part of the
life that you live
1461
01:10:49,445 --> 01:10:50,646
when you're doing that job.
1462
01:10:50,713 --> 01:10:54,917
- The pressure was immense for
him and part of that was
1463
01:10:54,984 --> 01:10:57,754
I think because
he had so much going on.
1464
01:10:57,754 --> 01:10:59,956
As the pressure's mounting
around him work-wise,
1465
01:10:59,956 --> 01:11:01,491
he had a lot of
pressures at home
1466
01:11:01,557 --> 01:11:05,728
and a lot of pressures
with his family, and it's a lot.
1467
01:11:05,795 --> 01:11:06,929
It was a lot.
1468
01:11:06,996 --> 01:11:08,831
- And that's the thing about
the business, you've got all
1469
01:11:08,831 --> 01:11:12,201
the personal problems that
everybody else does.
1470
01:11:13,436 --> 01:11:14,604
I got two daughters.
1471
01:11:14,704 --> 01:11:19,075
Uh, Stephanie Britt's the oldest
and Cassidy Skye's the youngest,
1472
01:11:19,075 --> 01:11:20,409
and I remember I came home.
1473
01:11:20,476 --> 01:11:21,611
I think it was
Stephanie who was born.
1474
01:11:21,677 --> 01:11:22,478
I-I flew in.
1475
01:11:22,478 --> 01:11:23,579
I was in New York City.
1476
01:11:23,646 --> 01:11:24,480
We were working in New York.
1477
01:11:24,580 --> 01:11:25,414
It was the Garden.
1478
01:11:25,481 --> 01:11:26,682
Man, I flew home.
1479
01:11:26,682 --> 01:11:30,720
I was there f-for her birth and
then as soon as she's born,
1480
01:11:30,786 --> 01:11:31,587
I held her.
1481
01:11:31,587 --> 01:11:33,156
I gave her like
her first bottle.
1482
01:11:33,156 --> 01:11:35,591
I got on an airplane and I
was in Pittsburgh that night-
1483
01:11:35,591 --> 01:11:36,559
-working.
1484
01:11:39,228 --> 01:11:41,831
- The truth is even guys that
were married and had families
1485
01:11:41,964 --> 01:11:44,233
and things like that, they were
more married to the road
1486
01:11:44,333 --> 01:11:46,435
and the business.
1487
01:11:46,435 --> 01:11:49,372
- To be successful in this
industry, you have to be willing
1488
01:11:49,438 --> 01:11:55,077
to commit an enormous amount
of time away from being home.
1489
01:11:55,077 --> 01:11:57,680
There's just no
other way to do it.
1490
01:11:57,680 --> 01:12:00,082
It-it's an
extremely difficult life.
1491
01:12:00,082 --> 01:12:01,684
It really is.
1492
01:12:01,751 --> 01:12:04,387
If you have a
family, so difficult.
1493
01:12:04,387 --> 01:12:06,956
So difficult on everybody.
1494
01:12:06,956 --> 01:12:08,391
I think that's probably why
there's such
1495
01:12:08,391 --> 01:12:12,995
a high rate of divorce and-and
things of that nature.
1496
01:12:12,995 --> 01:12:15,598
- I tried to not
bring up that stuff.
1497
01:12:15,665 --> 01:12:17,834
I knew what family life is like.
1498
01:12:17,834 --> 01:12:20,736
It's unsatisfying.
1499
01:12:20,803 --> 01:12:22,972
It's a source of consternation.
1500
01:12:23,039 --> 01:12:26,409
It's a source of crying
children and heartbreak.
1501
01:12:26,475 --> 01:12:28,844
It's a source of
unhappy spouses.
1502
01:12:28,911 --> 01:12:30,580
- It's not like you're making
a conscious decision,
1503
01:12:30,646 --> 01:12:32,281
hey, I'm putting everybody else
on the back burner,
1504
01:12:32,281 --> 01:12:34,350
but I decided to get a divorce.
1505
01:12:34,483 --> 01:12:37,486
You know, when you go through
a divorce, they're chaotic.
1506
01:12:37,553 --> 01:12:39,622
So obviously,
you're very distracted.
1507
01:12:39,722 --> 01:12:42,592
I was living in a house, but
once I decided to get a divorce,
1508
01:12:42,592 --> 01:12:45,928
I moved literally about two,
three miles down the road in an
1509
01:12:45,995 --> 01:12:51,200
old double wide and although I
was going through the pain or
1510
01:12:51,267 --> 01:12:53,803
whatever goes with a
divorce, when I moved in to that
1511
01:12:53,803 --> 01:12:56,405
double-wide, me and the
double-wide, for some reason,
1512
01:12:56,472 --> 01:12:57,974
there's synergy.
1513
01:12:58,040 --> 01:13:02,211
I had two cinderblocks with a 1
x 12 plank where my, uh, TV was.
1514
01:13:02,278 --> 01:13:04,947
I had my cooler, you
know, uh, full of beer.
1515
01:13:05,047 --> 01:13:07,116
It's too bad that the marriage
didn't work out,
1516
01:13:07,116 --> 01:13:10,319
but I found comfort and solace
in that double wide.
1517
01:13:12,255 --> 01:13:16,359
You can be in the business and
you can still live a full life,
1518
01:13:16,425 --> 01:13:19,662
but everything else is
kinda like white noise
1519
01:13:19,762 --> 01:13:22,832
that I'm putting all my
chips in my own basket
1520
01:13:22,965 --> 01:13:24,500
and this is what I'm doing,
1521
01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:29,772
and that was the first
and foremost priority was me.
1522
01:13:29,839 --> 01:13:33,843
Selfish I was and I was gonna
ride myself and everything
1523
01:13:33,943 --> 01:13:38,481
that the business had to get to
the top and do the best I could.
1524
01:13:40,483 --> 01:13:43,653
- There's a sacrifice to
greatness and it's a price
1525
01:13:43,719 --> 01:13:46,489
that a lot of people are not
willing to pay because
1526
01:13:46,555 --> 01:13:48,891
there is an intensity to it.
1527
01:13:48,958 --> 01:13:53,796
There is an obligation to your
own vision and dreams that you
1528
01:13:53,896 --> 01:13:59,201
have to service at all costs
over and above everyone else
1529
01:13:59,302 --> 01:14:01,837
in your life including yourself.
1530
01:14:01,971 --> 01:14:08,277
Your own self-interests take a
back seat to your dreams
1531
01:14:08,277 --> 01:14:11,314
and aspirations of what
you want to achieve.
1532
01:14:11,314 --> 01:14:13,816
He's had multiple
marriages that fell apart.
1533
01:14:13,883 --> 01:14:17,253
He's had multiple friendships
that will never be repaired,
1534
01:14:17,320 --> 01:14:22,992
but that's the price you pay to
look back on a body of work
1535
01:14:22,992 --> 01:14:27,797
and have everyone else around
you say, "He changed the game."
1536
01:14:29,966 --> 01:14:32,401
- Man, I-I am very demanding.
1537
01:14:32,501 --> 01:14:34,003
I was a professional wrestler.
1538
01:14:34,103 --> 01:14:36,972
It's what I live and died for.
1539
01:14:37,039 --> 01:14:38,441
- He took a lot of
things personally.
1540
01:14:38,541 --> 01:14:41,477
He wanted everything to be
perfect and he would always
1541
01:14:41,477 --> 01:14:44,280
want to be challenged with new
information, and new creative.
1542
01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:46,949
You kept your star happy.
1543
01:14:47,049 --> 01:14:51,487
Keep your talent
happy as best you can.
1544
01:14:53,155 --> 01:14:54,590
- If you don't build new stars,
1545
01:14:54,590 --> 01:14:57,593
you can't feed the
superstars at the top.
1546
01:14:57,593 --> 01:15:02,431
So when Steve became the big
star in the business, he knew he
1547
01:15:02,565 --> 01:15:07,069
needed a fresh rotation of
brand-new stars to work with.
1548
01:15:07,169 --> 01:15:10,573
Mr. McMahon couldn't be that
equal because once they got in
1549
01:15:10,639 --> 01:15:13,409
to the ring together, it
wasn't a very good match.
1550
01:15:13,476 --> 01:15:19,548
It needed someone that you could
honestly look at and say,
1551
01:15:19,648 --> 01:15:24,153
"This guy can measure up to
'Stone Cold' Steve Austin."
1552
01:15:24,153 --> 01:15:33,462
- If you smell what
The Rock is cooking.
1553
01:15:34,096 --> 01:15:36,032
[crowd chants "Rocky"]
1554
01:15:36,032 --> 01:15:38,801
- If you build an opponent for
Stone Cold, that opponent should
1555
01:15:38,901 --> 01:15:42,405
be on TV regularly and go
six months without losing.
1556
01:15:43,239 --> 01:15:45,074
Start planting those seeds.
1557
01:15:45,074 --> 01:15:46,609
Can you imagine this
guy's gonna be like
1558
01:15:46,675 --> 01:15:48,978
when he takes on
Stone Cold someday?
1559
01:15:49,044 --> 01:15:51,514
- My first couple of years in
the business, man, I watch this
1560
01:15:51,514 --> 01:15:56,552
guy, Steve Austin, ascend to the
top and start to achieve this
1561
01:15:56,552 --> 01:16:01,323
incredible popularity and I
would just quietly watch in the
1562
01:16:01,390 --> 01:16:05,594
shadows, study his behavior, and
watch how he operated because
1563
01:16:05,594 --> 01:16:08,597
that was a position that I
wanted to be in,
1564
01:16:08,664 --> 01:16:09,999
and I think he knew that.
1565
01:16:10,766 --> 01:16:13,068
- I just remember watching
him starting to gain momentum,
1566
01:16:13,169 --> 01:16:16,639
starting to establish a
relationship with the crowd.
1567
01:16:16,639 --> 01:16:18,040
He's starting to get over.
1568
01:16:18,140 --> 01:16:19,642
There's something here.
1569
01:16:19,642 --> 01:16:21,277
I-I-I need to watch this.
1570
01:16:21,277 --> 01:16:23,245
- And I remember him saying
something to the effect
1571
01:16:23,312 --> 01:16:25,915
of there's something there, kid.
1572
01:16:25,915 --> 01:16:26,882
[laughs]
1573
01:16:26,882 --> 01:16:29,518
There's something there.
1574
01:16:31,554 --> 01:16:35,090
There was also this bond like he
was a big brother in a way,
1575
01:16:35,157 --> 01:16:38,394
and then we knew that
we were going to converge
1576
01:16:38,494 --> 01:16:41,363
and that we were going
to work together.
1577
01:16:41,430 --> 01:16:43,399
And as far as where The Rock
is concerned,
1578
01:16:43,466 --> 01:16:48,037
the greatest book ever
written is the one titled,
1579
01:16:48,037 --> 01:16:51,841
The Rock versus "Stone
Cold" Steve Austin.
1580
01:16:51,841 --> 01:16:54,977
[crowd cheers]
1581
01:16:55,044 --> 01:16:56,045
- They were natural together.
1582
01:16:56,112 --> 01:16:57,646
They had great chemistry.
1583
01:16:57,713 --> 01:17:00,616
I think that Steve and Rock
liked each other,
1584
01:17:00,683 --> 01:17:04,987
so that helped, and they
both rode that wave.
1585
01:17:04,987 --> 01:17:07,756
- Rock, Stone Cold
at WrestleMania.
1586
01:17:09,592 --> 01:17:12,628
- I loved the relationship of
The Rock and Steve
1587
01:17:12,628 --> 01:17:16,832
because they are both very,
very competitive.
1588
01:17:16,966 --> 01:17:19,134
They were always wondering how
the other was feeling,
1589
01:17:19,201 --> 01:17:20,636
how the other was doing.
1590
01:17:20,636 --> 01:17:23,639
They never left
each other's radar.
1591
01:17:23,639 --> 01:17:25,407
They pushed each other.
1592
01:17:25,474 --> 01:17:27,209
They made each other better.
1593
01:17:27,276 --> 01:17:33,148
- In the world of pro-wrestling,
you can only control so much,
1594
01:17:33,249 --> 01:17:36,318
and after that, it
becomes the intangible.
1595
01:17:37,152 --> 01:17:38,554
- Rock commandeering a camera.
1596
01:17:38,654 --> 01:17:40,556
- He can do it all.
1597
01:17:40,556 --> 01:17:42,158
- The Rattlesnake is up.
1598
01:17:42,224 --> 01:17:43,559
And the Stunner.
1599
01:17:43,626 --> 01:17:46,162
- And that intangible, what
everybody searches for,
1600
01:17:46,228 --> 01:17:48,230
is chemistry.
1601
01:17:48,230 --> 01:17:52,368
I knew exactly what he
was gonna do all the time.
1602
01:17:52,835 --> 01:17:56,038
He knew exactly what I
was gonna do all the time.
1603
01:17:56,038 --> 01:17:58,641
That's just kinda the special
thing that you just feel.
1604
01:17:58,741 --> 01:18:02,044
[crowd cheers]
1605
01:18:02,111 --> 01:18:07,082
- And it's like watching two
comets fly through the sky
1606
01:18:07,082 --> 01:18:08,450
and hit each other.
1607
01:18:08,517 --> 01:18:10,352
It never happens.
1608
01:18:10,486 --> 01:18:12,321
- The Lou Thesz Press.
1609
01:18:12,388 --> 01:18:13,556
- I think it was the Apex.
1610
01:18:13,656 --> 01:18:15,791
I mean it was-it
was really the peak.
1611
01:18:15,791 --> 01:18:20,029
And Steve Austin and The Rock
were the two hottest stars
1612
01:18:20,029 --> 01:18:21,830
in the business.
1613
01:18:21,830 --> 01:18:24,133
- We were fighting for
the exact same thing
1614
01:18:24,200 --> 01:18:27,336
and that was the number one top
spot in the company
1615
01:18:27,403 --> 01:18:30,372
at a time where the
company was on fire.
1616
01:18:30,439 --> 01:18:32,208
It's really rarefied air
1617
01:18:32,274 --> 01:18:34,443
and we were fighting for
that rarefied air.
1618
01:18:34,510 --> 01:18:37,613
But it was outta so much
love and so much respect.
1619
01:18:37,680 --> 01:18:40,216
- God, It was so fun to watch
and privileged to see something
1620
01:18:40,282 --> 01:18:42,751
like that when you have these
two big talents coming together.
1621
01:18:42,885 --> 01:18:44,053
- It's a new champion.
1622
01:18:44,119 --> 01:18:46,755
[crowd cheering]
1623
01:18:46,855 --> 01:18:49,191
- Man, that was a great ride.
1624
01:18:49,325 --> 01:18:53,862
[crowd cheering]
1625
01:18:53,862 --> 01:18:56,031
- Rock and I never
rode the roads together.
1626
01:18:56,098 --> 01:18:58,033
He ran with a different crowd.
1627
01:18:58,100 --> 01:18:59,802
But whenever
we see each other,
1628
01:18:59,868 --> 01:19:03,038
it's just like the last
time we left off.
1629
01:19:03,105 --> 01:19:05,474
It's a friendship
that is forever.
1630
01:19:05,541 --> 01:19:10,646
- That was a guy who
looked at me and said, "You.
1631
01:19:10,713 --> 01:19:13,949
You and me we're gonna go and
we're gonna go to the dance."
1632
01:19:14,049 --> 01:19:17,753
That decision to-to take me,
if you will, under his wing,
1633
01:19:17,820 --> 01:19:18,787
it changed my life.
1634
01:19:23,192 --> 01:19:28,030
- Steve sacrificed so
much for his success.
1635
01:19:28,030 --> 01:19:32,167
He sacrificed everything,
family, friends, time to get
1636
01:19:32,234 --> 01:19:34,370
where he needed to go.
1637
01:19:34,436 --> 01:19:37,006
- I'm putting all my chips
in my own basket
1638
01:19:37,072 --> 01:19:38,641
and this is what I'm doing.
1639
01:19:38,707 --> 01:19:42,678
And that was the first and
foremost priority was me.
1640
01:19:44,079 --> 01:19:47,082
- And I think when at an older
age when he's reflecting
1641
01:19:47,149 --> 01:19:49,385
on that, he thinks a little bit
more about the sacrifices
1642
01:19:49,518 --> 01:19:50,886
and who that impacted.
1643
01:19:53,022 --> 01:19:56,025
- When I asked Steve about
his daughters, he was much more
1644
01:19:56,158 --> 01:19:59,428
willing to talk about it
than I thought he was.
1645
01:19:59,495 --> 01:20:01,430
- In the past, I haven't talked
too much about them
1646
01:20:01,497 --> 01:20:03,799
and it's because of the strained
relationship that it was
1647
01:20:03,866 --> 01:20:07,803
and me being
gone all the time.
1648
01:20:07,870 --> 01:20:11,674
- And after the shoot he called
me and he said,
1649
01:20:11,774 --> 01:20:14,410
"I'm really glad I got to talk
about my daughters."
1650
01:20:14,476 --> 01:20:17,046
He said, "I-- I've wanted to do
that for a while
1651
01:20:17,112 --> 01:20:19,348
and I'm glad that
we talked about it
1652
01:20:19,481 --> 01:20:22,151
and, um, I'm glad that will be
in the biography."
1653
01:20:22,151 --> 01:20:24,353
So I think it was therapeutic
for Steve to finally talk
1654
01:20:24,353 --> 01:20:26,388
about his daughters
out in the open.
1655
01:20:26,388 --> 01:20:28,991
I'm still curious what that
relationship is like
1656
01:20:29,058 --> 01:20:32,428
and-and more, but I think it's
a start to Steve talking
1657
01:20:32,428 --> 01:20:33,796
about that kind of stuff.
1658
01:20:33,862 --> 01:20:35,831
And it's also-- it shows where
he's at in his life now,
1659
01:20:35,831 --> 01:20:37,633
willing to talk about certain
things that he probably wasn't
1660
01:20:37,633 --> 01:20:40,035
willing to talk about when he
was a little younger.
1661
01:20:49,078 --> 01:20:51,213
- Steve's gonna be the first
one to tell you
1662
01:20:51,280 --> 01:20:53,348
that he's got just a core
group of friends.
1663
01:20:53,482 --> 01:20:55,784
I mean, he is not gonna
just be your best friend
1664
01:20:55,918 --> 01:20:57,753
just to be
your best friend.
1665
01:20:57,820 --> 01:20:59,588
- They say it's
lonely at the top
1666
01:20:59,588 --> 01:21:02,791
and I think Steve
was pretty lonely.
1667
01:21:02,791 --> 01:21:04,126
- I ran with myself.
1668
01:21:04,193 --> 01:21:06,428
I was lone wolf.
1669
01:21:06,428 --> 01:21:09,631
My place was on top of that
roster, on top of that card.
1670
01:21:09,698 --> 01:21:11,200
There's so much jealousy.
1671
01:21:11,266 --> 01:21:14,036
I really live the-the-the thing
I came up with years ago,
1672
01:21:14,036 --> 01:21:16,672
DTA, don't trust anybody.
1673
01:21:17,239 --> 01:21:20,876
- DTA, don't trust anyone,
makes for a good catchphrase.
1674
01:21:20,876 --> 01:21:23,512
I don't know if it's the best
way to go through life,
1675
01:21:23,645 --> 01:21:26,348
but I think that is how Steve
went through his life
1676
01:21:26,482 --> 01:21:27,750
at that time.
1677
01:21:27,883 --> 01:21:30,352
- The DTA, don't trust anyone
thing, that wasn't Steve
1678
01:21:30,419 --> 01:21:33,756
playing a character, angry,
bitter, paranoid,
1679
01:21:33,822 --> 01:21:35,190
like there was a lot of that.
1680
01:21:35,190 --> 01:21:36,925
Steve's a very private guy.
1681
01:21:36,992 --> 01:21:38,026
He just is.
1682
01:21:38,160 --> 01:21:40,429
He never really talked
about his home life.
1683
01:21:40,496 --> 01:21:42,431
Every now and then he'd tell you
something about his family,
1684
01:21:42,498 --> 01:21:46,001
but for the most part he-he kept
all that stuff to himself.
1685
01:21:47,803 --> 01:21:50,439
- People have always
asked me about my daughters.
1686
01:21:50,439 --> 01:21:52,474
In the past, I haven't talked
too much about them
1687
01:21:52,474 --> 01:21:55,277
and it's because of the strained
relationship that it was
1688
01:21:55,344 --> 01:21:57,846
and me being
gone all the time.
1689
01:21:59,681 --> 01:22:03,685
I-I never won father of the year
because I'm purely on the road.
1690
01:22:03,752 --> 01:22:06,221
If I'm gonna come home for my
two days off every now and then,
1691
01:22:06,355 --> 01:22:09,224
I'm gonna cook some flank steaks
on the grill and drink beer.
1692
01:22:09,358 --> 01:22:11,193
That's as much as
I'm contributing.
1693
01:22:11,193 --> 01:22:14,196
I hate to say that,
that's the way it was.
1694
01:22:15,230 --> 01:22:17,866
They knew that I loved
them, but I wasn't there.
1695
01:22:23,438 --> 01:22:26,909
Back in 2001, uh, my wife took
the kids over to England
1696
01:22:27,042 --> 01:22:28,877
to visit her side of the family.
1697
01:22:28,877 --> 01:22:31,246
9/11 happened and then that's
when everybody was,
1698
01:22:31,313 --> 01:22:33,282
or at least she
was afraid to fly.
1699
01:22:33,348 --> 01:22:34,983
They kind of stayed over there.
1700
01:22:35,117 --> 01:22:38,320
I was always gone anyway,
so what's the big deal?
1701
01:22:38,387 --> 01:22:40,722
So they stayed over there, and
they kept staying over there,
1702
01:22:40,789 --> 01:22:44,426
and, uh, as time went on, well,
I called Stephanie just to talk
1703
01:22:44,560 --> 01:22:47,663
to them and when we started
talking and she had a-a proper
1704
01:22:47,796 --> 01:22:50,966
London accent.
1705
01:22:51,033 --> 01:22:54,803
When I hung up the phone, I
started crying like a baby.
1706
01:22:54,870 --> 01:22:56,772
Because she used to sound
exactly like I do
1707
01:22:56,839 --> 01:22:57,806
[laugh]
1708
01:22:57,940 --> 01:22:59,241
for better for worse
without the four-letter words.
1709
01:22:59,308 --> 01:23:01,076
She had my same accent.
1710
01:23:01,143 --> 01:23:05,714
And to hear her with an English
accent, yeah, that shook me up
1711
01:23:05,714 --> 01:23:10,152
because I was like, "Okay, er,
you-- you know what'd I do wrong
1712
01:23:10,152 --> 01:23:11,720
or could have done better?"
1713
01:23:11,787 --> 01:23:14,756
- That's the bottom line
because Stone Cold said so.
1714
01:23:16,058 --> 01:23:18,794
- Now that they're
older, we're on the way
1715
01:23:18,861 --> 01:23:20,796
to building better
relationships.
1716
01:23:20,863 --> 01:23:24,266
So now they're pursuing their
own things, I support them.
1717
01:23:24,399 --> 01:23:26,969
Uh, if I can give
them any advice, I do.
1718
01:23:27,035 --> 01:23:31,373
Through all the BS that that has
happened, we're talking now,
1719
01:23:31,440 --> 01:23:33,275
uh, the relationships, as
strained as they were,
1720
01:23:33,275 --> 01:23:36,245
they're better now, but it's
still a building block.
1721
01:23:36,311 --> 01:23:39,281
Because truly after
all these years,
1722
01:23:39,348 --> 01:23:43,118
we still don't know each other
as well as we should.
1723
01:23:43,785 --> 01:23:48,524
- That was the fustian bargain
that he cut with himself
1724
01:23:48,590 --> 01:23:53,362
in order to myopically,
obsessively go after the success
1725
01:23:53,428 --> 01:23:58,834
that he knew in his heart
he could achieve.
1726
01:23:58,834 --> 01:24:01,236
- You have to get it while you
can and then hope that you can
1727
01:24:01,236 --> 01:24:05,841
make up for all the other stuff
that you put on the bottom shelf
1728
01:24:05,908 --> 01:24:08,677
while you went out
and lived your dream.
1729
01:24:08,744 --> 01:24:10,679
There's a lot of
casualties that come with that.
1730
01:24:10,746 --> 01:24:13,081
And you have to
be willing to accept that
1731
01:24:13,148 --> 01:24:15,484
your window's really small.
1732
01:24:15,550 --> 01:24:18,120
For most guys, it-it
really is a small window.
1733
01:24:21,857 --> 01:24:23,025
- He always felt like he was
gonna lose his spot in line
1734
01:24:23,158 --> 01:24:26,228
if he was not on the road.
1735
01:24:26,228 --> 01:24:27,429
I can't be home.
1736
01:24:27,429 --> 01:24:29,998
I gotta be on the road
with the rest of the guys.
1737
01:24:30,065 --> 01:24:32,200
Because somebody else is gonna
have a great match,
1738
01:24:32,267 --> 01:24:34,636
they're gonna be
noticed and I'm not.
1739
01:24:34,636 --> 01:24:37,039
The drive for that--
The lust for that,
1740
01:24:37,039 --> 01:24:39,007
he could never get away from.
1741
01:24:40,909 --> 01:24:44,112
- Anytime that
someone is successful,
1742
01:24:44,246 --> 01:24:45,380
they have a hands-on approach.
1743
01:24:45,480 --> 01:24:47,049
Steve had a very hands-on
approach when it came
1744
01:24:47,115 --> 01:24:51,753
to the presentation of what
he was going to do.
1745
01:24:51,820 --> 01:24:55,958
Steve was very demanding, but
Steve could be guilty of,
1746
01:24:56,024 --> 01:24:58,126
"This sucks."
1747
01:24:58,193 --> 01:24:59,861
"Okay, it sucks, Steve.
1748
01:24:59,995 --> 01:25:00,963
What do you wanna do
to make it better?"
1749
01:25:01,029 --> 01:25:01,630
"I don't know.
1750
01:25:01,630 --> 01:25:02,564
God damn, you're a writer.
1751
01:25:02,631 --> 01:25:04,466
Write something."
1752
01:25:04,600 --> 01:25:08,036
Steve would get mad, throw
it away and-and storm off.
1753
01:25:08,103 --> 01:25:11,440
- This was at a time when The
Rock was kicking-- uh, breaking
1754
01:25:11,440 --> 01:25:15,911
Hollywood and "Stone Cold"
Steve Austin needed a new equal.
1755
01:25:16,044 --> 01:25:18,413
- Steve would've been very easy
to maintain and manage
1756
01:25:18,480 --> 01:25:21,316
if we'd always had a good
opponent ready for him.
1757
01:25:21,316 --> 01:25:22,551
And why wouldn't you?
1758
01:25:22,618 --> 01:25:25,988
I think that's what led to a
lot of Steve's frustration,
1759
01:25:25,988 --> 01:25:28,624
complaining about
his opponents, you know,
1760
01:25:28,757 --> 01:25:31,026
complaining who he
was working with.
1761
01:25:31,159 --> 01:25:33,161
He wasn't getting
red hot villians.
1762
01:25:33,228 --> 01:25:36,765
Nobody's ready and
nobody's been groomed for me.
1763
01:25:36,832 --> 01:25:40,035
The process had failed him.
1764
01:25:40,102 --> 01:25:43,038
When the creative stuff started
going south a little bit, it had
1765
01:25:43,038 --> 01:25:46,408
a more profound effect on him
than it would a lot of guys.
1766
01:25:46,475 --> 01:25:49,911
Because he felt like this
foundation's starting to crack.
1767
01:25:50,045 --> 01:25:51,880
- And I was like, "Dude,
what is going on here?"
1768
01:25:51,947 --> 01:25:54,516
When you've been trying so hard,
so long to be that guy
1769
01:25:54,516 --> 01:25:57,386
and you get that chance, you
ain't letting it go.
1770
01:25:57,519 --> 01:25:59,187
- I found out what
creative had in mind
1771
01:25:59,287 --> 01:26:03,592
for Steve and Brock Lesnar, and
I confirmed it with Vince.
1772
01:26:03,592 --> 01:26:04,926
"Oh, you're gonna
work with Brock tonight
1773
01:26:04,993 --> 01:26:06,461
and you're gonna lose."
1774
01:26:06,595 --> 01:26:08,030
And it certainly was very
premature
1775
01:26:08,096 --> 01:26:11,833
to try to have Steve and Brock
wrestle with no buildup.
1776
01:26:11,833 --> 01:26:15,437
This is a match that can sell
out indoor stadiums,
1777
01:26:15,437 --> 01:26:17,973
but there was no story there.
1778
01:26:18,040 --> 01:26:22,010
It was thrown together
and-and it meant nothing.
1779
01:26:22,077 --> 01:26:24,279
- Jim Ross calls me with the
creative for Monday Night Raw,
1780
01:26:24,279 --> 01:26:25,714
tells me, long story short,
1781
01:26:25,714 --> 01:26:27,716
that I'm doing a job
for Brock Lesner.
1782
01:26:27,783 --> 01:26:29,151
I said, "Oh, really?"
1783
01:26:29,217 --> 01:26:30,752
I said, "Well, if that's
gonna be the case,
1784
01:26:30,752 --> 01:26:32,187
I ain't gonna be there."
1785
01:26:32,187 --> 01:26:35,791
So sure enough, I woke up,
I had two bloody Marys,
1786
01:26:35,791 --> 01:26:38,994
got on airplane and I was flying
back to San Antonio
1787
01:26:39,061 --> 01:26:40,028
and I was mad.
1788
01:26:40,095 --> 01:26:41,763
It ain't about
winning or losing.
1789
01:26:41,830 --> 01:26:45,367
I'll let anybody beat me as long
as it's for a reason,
1790
01:26:45,434 --> 01:26:48,403
it means something, and
there's money behind it.
1791
01:26:48,470 --> 01:26:49,838
And so I-I said, "No.
1792
01:26:49,838 --> 01:26:50,639
I ain't doing it."
1793
01:26:50,639 --> 01:26:51,406
And I went home.
1794
01:26:51,473 --> 01:26:52,207
It was over.
1795
01:26:52,274 --> 01:26:53,442
I was done.
1796
01:26:53,542 --> 01:26:56,912
And it cost me a lot of respect
from my peers, a lot of money
1797
01:26:57,045 --> 01:26:58,213
and that's what I did.
1798
01:26:58,280 --> 01:27:00,348
And they-- As they said it, I
took my ball and went home.
1799
01:27:02,918 --> 01:27:06,188
- Man, it felt like he kicked
everybody in the cojones,
1800
01:27:06,254 --> 01:27:07,389
you know.
1801
01:27:07,389 --> 01:27:09,591
It felt like that all of
a sudden, "Wait a minute.
1802
01:27:09,658 --> 01:27:10,726
What is wrong with him?
1803
01:27:10,792 --> 01:27:13,028
How is he thinking this way?"
1804
01:27:13,028 --> 01:27:15,630
- To his credit, Vince
called me three times.
1805
01:27:15,630 --> 01:27:17,365
He left me a voice
message each time.
1806
01:27:17,432 --> 01:27:19,000
I never called him back.
1807
01:27:19,000 --> 01:27:20,001
I-I didn't wanna talk
to him on the phone.
1808
01:27:20,068 --> 01:27:22,404
I was still hot.
1809
01:27:23,438 --> 01:27:25,874
And for about six months, I was
huntin fishin and drinkin
1810
01:27:25,874 --> 01:27:28,677
and not necessarily
in that order
1811
01:27:28,677 --> 01:27:32,481
and making a lot
of bad decisions.
1812
01:27:32,547 --> 01:27:34,883
You know, just
time was going by.
1813
01:27:37,352 --> 01:27:39,154
Finally, I'm going
through my mail,
1814
01:27:39,154 --> 01:27:41,923
there's a card from Jim Ross.
1815
01:27:41,990 --> 01:27:44,192
I didn't expect a
card from Jim Ross.
1816
01:27:44,192 --> 01:27:47,863
"Hey man, just-just checking on
you want to see if you're okay?
1817
01:27:47,996 --> 01:27:51,433
If you ever wanna
talk, give me a call."
1818
01:27:51,433 --> 01:27:53,034
And I felt right then,
1819
01:27:53,034 --> 01:27:55,036
that that was my friend
throwing me a lifeline.
1820
01:27:55,036 --> 01:27:56,638
I called him up.
1821
01:27:56,705 --> 01:27:58,640
It was back when they had
those old Motorola flip phones.
1822
01:27:58,640 --> 01:28:00,642
I burned through two
batteries talking to Jim.
1823
01:28:00,709 --> 01:28:03,879
- We did speak for hours.
1824
01:28:03,945 --> 01:28:05,780
Life, football, you
know, booking,
1825
01:28:05,881 --> 01:28:08,083
marriage, relationships.
1826
01:28:08,150 --> 01:28:10,552
Boy, he really needed to talk.
1827
01:28:10,619 --> 01:28:11,887
- He goes, "Hey, man.
1828
01:28:11,953 --> 01:28:13,188
Do you think if I ever put you
and the old man in the building,
1829
01:28:13,255 --> 01:28:14,923
you can hash this out
and put it behind you
1830
01:28:14,990 --> 01:28:16,625
and come back to work?"
1831
01:28:16,758 --> 01:28:19,094
I said, "I'd love that."
1832
01:28:19,194 --> 01:28:22,030
He facilitated the meeting
between myself and Vince.
1833
01:28:22,097 --> 01:28:28,637
And I'm thinking, "Man, we're
either gonna fight or hug."
1834
01:28:28,637 --> 01:28:31,573
We started talking,
we hashed it out.
1835
01:28:31,640 --> 01:28:33,475
I told him what I was thinking
1836
01:28:33,542 --> 01:28:35,410
and we got back
on the same track.
1837
01:28:35,477 --> 01:28:37,646
And then, uh, shortly
thereafter, I returned to work.
1838
01:28:39,714 --> 01:28:40,515
- It's good to see you.
1839
01:28:40,515 --> 01:28:41,883
Very good.
1840
01:28:44,352 --> 01:28:47,322
- When I did come back,
I knew what I'd done.
1841
01:28:47,389 --> 01:28:51,593
So, I remember going up to
basically the whole locker room.
1842
01:28:51,660 --> 01:28:56,832
Yeah, I apologized to a lot
of guys and it was warranted.
1843
01:28:56,898 --> 01:28:58,667
[Stone Cold's music plays]
1844
01:28:58,800 --> 01:29:01,836
[crowd cheering]
1845
01:29:01,903 --> 01:29:04,573
- Well, "Stone Cold"
Steve Austin is back.
1846
01:29:04,639 --> 01:29:07,309
And I can guarantee you that I
am going to raise more hell
1847
01:29:07,442 --> 01:29:10,979
in this ring than I've
ever raised in my life.
1848
01:29:16,484 --> 01:29:18,153
- Steve is a very macho guy.
1849
01:29:18,220 --> 01:29:20,722
He's a very tough guy, so you
don't expect a guy
1850
01:29:20,789 --> 01:29:22,524
like that to really open up.
1851
01:29:22,591 --> 01:29:25,727
And I think it was just a matter
of him being in a place
1852
01:29:25,794 --> 01:29:27,329
in his life now
where he's ready to talk
1853
01:29:27,395 --> 01:29:28,663
about some of those things.
1854
01:29:28,763 --> 01:29:30,665
Because he's at a point in his
life where he is looking back
1855
01:29:30,765 --> 01:29:33,134
on his career and
what that meant.
1856
01:29:33,134 --> 01:29:38,607
And I think there's a lot
of self-exploration in that.
1857
01:29:38,673 --> 01:29:40,909
I think the part that stuck with
me the most emotionally
1858
01:29:41,009 --> 01:29:44,512
was when he was talking about
the end of his career.
1859
01:29:44,613 --> 01:29:49,384
Because he took himself into
that moment with The Rock
1860
01:29:49,484 --> 01:29:52,320
and you could see sitting across
from him in the chair,
1861
01:29:52,387 --> 01:29:54,589
I could see he
was in that moment
1862
01:29:54,656 --> 01:29:57,025
when he was telling
us about that.
1863
01:29:57,125 --> 01:29:59,928
- You know, just-just living
right there for about
1864
01:29:59,928 --> 01:30:01,229
an hour ago,
whatever it was,
1865
01:30:01,296 --> 01:30:02,931
he was asking some
most things where
1866
01:30:02,998 --> 01:30:04,399
I get a chance to get
transported back in time
1867
01:30:04,466 --> 01:30:07,202
and I start living some
of those feelings back
1868
01:30:07,269 --> 01:30:10,005
and I start talking to you like
I did, man, it's almost like,
1869
01:30:10,071 --> 01:30:13,775
uh- uh, cathartic or
therapeutic for me.
1870
01:30:16,111 --> 01:30:19,214
- In a lot of ways, it was the
end of a-a-a major part, if not
1871
01:30:19,281 --> 01:30:22,584
the most significant part of his
entire life up to that point.
1872
01:30:22,684 --> 01:30:23,551
How do you walk
away from something
1873
01:30:23,618 --> 01:30:25,320
that makes you who you are?
1874
01:30:25,387 --> 01:30:29,224
And so, when Steve
talked about that,
1875
01:30:29,324 --> 01:30:32,761
he was there in that moment
with The Rock mentally
1876
01:30:32,827 --> 01:30:34,262
even though he physically
wasn't there.
1877
01:30:34,362 --> 01:30:38,166
And I think seeing that emotion
from him and how much that meant
1878
01:30:38,233 --> 01:30:39,200
to him really stuck with me
1879
01:30:39,267 --> 01:30:40,702
and you could feel it sitting in
the room with him.
1880
01:30:40,702 --> 01:30:43,872
That emotion just
poured off of him.
1881
01:30:43,972 --> 01:30:46,641
And I think it affected everyone
that was there that day.
1882
01:30:55,050 --> 01:30:58,386
- Oh, the Stone Cold Stunner.
1883
01:30:58,486 --> 01:31:00,155
- I came back for a few months.
1884
01:31:00,221 --> 01:31:04,125
But man, it's a hard-ass job.
1885
01:31:04,125 --> 01:31:06,428
I was backstage with Bruce
Prichard one time
1886
01:31:06,528 --> 01:31:10,565
and I just kept having this
nerve jump in my leg.
1887
01:31:10,632 --> 01:31:13,768
And it was just like everything
in my nervous system was so shot
1888
01:31:13,835 --> 01:31:16,371
You know, the atrophy in-in my
hands, the other things
1889
01:31:16,371 --> 01:31:18,640
that I was
going through is,
1890
01:31:18,707 --> 01:31:20,241
like, finally
starting to unwind me.
1891
01:31:20,308 --> 01:31:23,278
It's like, dude, when is your
body going to give you enough
1892
01:31:23,345 --> 01:31:25,380
signals that you need to
get your ass out of here?
1893
01:31:25,447 --> 01:31:28,083
- The feeling was basically that
he had-he had pushed
1894
01:31:28,149 --> 01:31:30,552
the limits as
far as he could.
1895
01:31:30,618 --> 01:31:33,355
And that it was time to--
1896
01:31:33,421 --> 01:31:35,123
He didn't want to
push them anymore
1897
01:31:35,190 --> 01:31:38,293
and I think Steve just saw
the writing on the wall.
1898
01:31:38,360 --> 01:31:43,565
- I-I can't imagine how
agonizing it-it was for Steve
1899
01:31:43,631 --> 01:31:47,168
to make the decision that
his career was over.
1900
01:31:47,902 --> 01:31:50,205
He had to resign
himself to the fact
1901
01:31:50,271 --> 01:31:52,440
this is as far as
the character goes.
1902
01:31:53,842 --> 01:31:56,411
- Now, the question that would
then become who would he wrestle
1903
01:31:56,411 --> 01:31:57,979
and what will be the outcome?
1904
01:31:58,046 --> 01:32:02,684
Steve being an old school guy
wanted to go out the right way.
1905
01:32:02,751 --> 01:32:06,488
He wanted it to be
Rock, he owed it to Rock.
1906
01:32:06,554 --> 01:32:10,358
But he didn't want to distract
from The Rock getting a win
1907
01:32:10,425 --> 01:32:12,761
by him saying this
is his last match.
1908
01:32:12,827 --> 01:32:15,864
So, we kept that confidential,
1909
01:32:15,964 --> 01:32:18,566
which is the
professional thing to do.
1910
01:32:18,566 --> 01:32:22,404
And it shows great love
and respect for Dwayne.
1911
01:32:22,470 --> 01:32:23,371
- It's bigger than wrestling.
1912
01:32:23,438 --> 01:32:24,472
I just like The Rock.
1913
01:32:24,572 --> 01:32:27,042
And so, I didn't tell
hardly anybody at all.
1914
01:32:27,108 --> 01:32:29,244
Obviously, Vince
knew, Jim Ross knew.
1915
01:32:29,310 --> 01:32:32,280
And I told The Rock.
1916
01:32:32,347 --> 01:32:36,851
- When I found out that his last
match was going to be with me,
1917
01:32:36,918 --> 01:32:39,054
I had really mixed emotions.
1918
01:32:39,120 --> 01:32:43,124
You know, we hugged and it
makes me a little emotional now
1919
01:32:43,191 --> 01:32:48,396
because it is the ending of
a career that has been
1920
01:32:48,463 --> 01:32:54,169
so influential on not only me,
1921
01:32:54,235 --> 01:32:56,971
but the world of wrestling
that we love.
1922
01:32:57,038 --> 01:32:58,173
- It-It hurt to walk away.
1923
01:32:58,239 --> 01:33:00,942
It was-It was a real tough
decision to make,
1924
01:33:00,942 --> 01:33:04,679
but I just figured it was the
best decision for me.
1925
01:33:07,248 --> 01:33:10,685
- I think the days leading
into WrestleMania 19
1926
01:33:10,685 --> 01:33:13,455
were miserable for him.
1927
01:33:14,088 --> 01:33:15,290
How am I going to do?
1928
01:33:15,356 --> 01:33:16,724
Am I gonna deliver?
1929
01:33:16,724 --> 01:33:18,293
What are the
people are gonna say.
1930
01:33:18,359 --> 01:33:19,494
How do I look?
1931
01:33:20,595 --> 01:33:23,364
- Day before
WrestleMania, I was at the gym.
1932
01:33:23,364 --> 01:33:25,133
This is at a time when I
was drinking,
1933
01:33:25,200 --> 01:33:26,701
uh, about three
bottles of wine a night,
1934
01:33:26,768 --> 01:33:28,803
two pots of coffee in the
morning to get up
1935
01:33:28,870 --> 01:33:32,173
and a bunch of
energy drinks to get you going.
1936
01:33:32,173 --> 01:33:35,376
Really dehydrated, man my
feet kept jumping,
1937
01:33:35,443 --> 01:33:36,611
just nervous reactions.
1938
01:33:36,678 --> 01:33:39,514
I was, like, "Man,
what is going on?"
1939
01:33:39,614 --> 01:33:44,853
And I-I was staying at the Grand
Hyatt Hotel there in Seattle.
1940
01:33:44,919 --> 01:33:46,187
And I went up to the
floor that I was on.
1941
01:33:46,287 --> 01:33:48,122
As soon as I got out
of the elevator, man,
1942
01:33:48,189 --> 01:33:52,160
my heart started beating out of
my chest so hard and fast.
1943
01:33:52,227 --> 01:33:54,496
It scared the -- out of me.
1944
01:33:54,496 --> 01:33:56,231
And I was thinking,
"Man, I'm dying."
1945
01:33:56,297 --> 01:33:57,265
I just got my number called.
1946
01:33:57,365 --> 01:33:58,833
I'm gone.
1947
01:33:58,900 --> 01:34:01,236
And there was a WWE employee
named Liz DiFabio
1948
01:34:01,302 --> 01:34:02,871
coming down the hallway.
1949
01:34:02,971 --> 01:34:05,740
And I looked at her and she
could see that I was as serious
1950
01:34:05,807 --> 01:34:06,774
as a heart attack.
1951
01:34:06,774 --> 01:34:07,809
No pun intended.
1952
01:34:07,876 --> 01:34:11,179
And I said, "Liz,
I'm in trouble."
1953
01:34:11,246 --> 01:34:13,281
They take me down to the
emergency room
1954
01:34:13,348 --> 01:34:15,383
and they'd put all
these tests on me.
1955
01:34:15,383 --> 01:34:17,152
And they thought I had
a pulmonary embolism.
1956
01:34:17,218 --> 01:34:18,853
They thought a-a
bunch of things.
1957
01:34:18,920 --> 01:34:23,591
And the-the thing was that I
was just basically dehydrated.
1958
01:34:23,658 --> 01:34:27,228
Drinking too much, uh, alcohol
and way too much caffeine.
1959
01:34:27,328 --> 01:34:30,598
And finally, you know,
it's-it's time to stop.
1960
01:34:30,665 --> 01:34:31,933
- So, Vince and I were there,
he put too much on himself.
1961
01:34:32,000 --> 01:34:34,102
He worried too much.
1962
01:34:34,168 --> 01:34:36,971
He over thought the situation.
1963
01:34:38,473 --> 01:34:40,074
- So, I woke up next morning.
1964
01:34:40,174 --> 01:34:41,543
Doctor didn't want
to discharge me.
1965
01:34:41,543 --> 01:34:44,245
He wouldn't clear me to wrestle,
but I was going to wrestle.
1966
01:34:44,312 --> 01:34:46,281
And I was going to
wrestle The Rock.
1967
01:34:47,415 --> 01:34:48,750
Get to the building.
1968
01:34:48,850 --> 01:34:50,318
- Mr. Austin.
1969
01:34:50,385 --> 01:34:52,086
- We walked around
seeing everybody
1970
01:34:52,086 --> 01:34:53,087
going through the motions.
1971
01:34:53,154 --> 01:34:53,788
Hey, Mark.
1972
01:34:53,888 --> 01:34:55,456
- Hey, Steve.
1973
01:34:55,456 --> 01:34:57,358
- How Y'all doin?
1974
01:34:57,425 --> 01:35:00,328
If I talked to anybody or
hardly said anything,
1975
01:35:00,328 --> 01:35:02,030
I was about to start crying.
1976
01:35:03,965 --> 01:35:06,601
And when you're making the
decision to walk away from your
1977
01:35:06,668 --> 01:35:12,640
number one passion, that-- And
what-- that you live for, man,
1978
01:35:12,707 --> 01:35:14,776
I'll make this go away.
1979
01:35:14,842 --> 01:35:17,278
So, I was like
this all day long.
1980
01:35:19,214 --> 01:35:20,682
And then, of course, you know,
we'd get ready for the match.
1981
01:35:20,748 --> 01:35:21,849
It's like, "Okay, man.
1982
01:35:21,916 --> 01:35:22,584
Let's go turn it on.
1983
01:35:22,684 --> 01:35:23,518
Rev it up."
1984
01:35:23,585 --> 01:35:24,519
You know, if your
heart explodes.
1985
01:35:24,586 --> 01:35:25,720
[chuckles]
1986
01:35:25,787 --> 01:35:27,488
If I died in the ring, hey,
man, what better place to go
1987
01:35:27,488 --> 01:35:31,326
than in Mania in the middle
of the ring with The Rock?
1988
01:35:31,392 --> 01:35:35,396
So, you know, you-you can't
plan a better death than that.
1989
01:35:35,463 --> 01:35:37,599
[crowd cheering]
1990
01:35:37,665 --> 01:35:39,601
- That's what we're here
for, JR.
1991
01:35:39,667 --> 01:35:42,136
- The Rock said he
was gonna confront
1992
01:35:42,203 --> 01:35:43,471
"Stone Cold" Steve Austin.
1993
01:35:43,571 --> 01:35:47,842
[crowd cheering]
1994
01:35:47,909 --> 01:35:49,410
- I take it all in.
1995
01:35:49,477 --> 01:35:51,980
I feel everything.
1996
01:35:52,046 --> 01:35:56,484
And I sense everything, the
smell, the feel, the love,
1997
01:35:56,484 --> 01:35:58,686
the tone of that building.
1998
01:35:58,686 --> 01:36:01,422
[crowd cheering]
1999
01:36:01,522 --> 01:36:03,891
[bell rings]
2000
01:36:03,958 --> 01:36:06,527
- It ain't about nothing but a
wrestling match between
2001
01:36:06,594 --> 01:36:09,564
two of the greatest that have
ever been in the ring.
2002
01:36:10,632 --> 01:36:12,634
Oh, that's a clothesline.
2003
01:36:12,700 --> 01:36:15,336
And The Rock, is he gonna do it?
2004
01:36:15,403 --> 01:36:17,538
- Big one.
2005
01:36:17,605 --> 01:36:18,606
- Rock Bottom.
2006
01:36:18,673 --> 01:36:20,375
A third Rock Bottom.
2007
01:36:20,375 --> 01:36:22,243
A hook of the leg.
2008
01:36:22,310 --> 01:36:23,311
[bell rings]
2009
01:36:23,411 --> 01:36:26,514
- And The Rock's done it.
2010
01:36:26,614 --> 01:36:30,518
- When that three-count
hit, it was like,
2011
01:36:30,585 --> 01:36:32,754
[exhales]
2012
01:36:32,820 --> 01:36:34,088
I was just laying there.
2013
01:36:34,088 --> 01:36:39,494
It's like someone lifting 1,000
pounds of bricks off my back.
2014
01:36:39,994 --> 01:36:42,030
Damn near 70,000 people in
that building, couple million
2015
01:36:42,096 --> 01:36:44,032
watching on pay-per-view.
2016
01:36:44,098 --> 01:36:49,370
- We're both laying in
the middle of the ring.
2017
01:36:49,437 --> 01:36:53,074
And I sat up and I remember I
pushed the referee,
2018
01:36:53,174 --> 01:36:55,910
Earl Hebner, away.
2019
01:36:56,010 --> 01:36:58,079
- He knew that I was going.
2020
01:36:58,146 --> 01:37:01,549
He knew that I didn't want to go
and this was a hard decision
2021
01:37:01,649 --> 01:37:03,351
for me to make.
2022
01:37:03,418 --> 01:37:09,023
- I lowered my head down to
Steve's, uh, ear and I said,
2023
01:37:09,123 --> 01:37:14,362
"I can't thank you enough for
everything that you have done."
2024
01:37:14,429 --> 01:37:17,165
And then I said, "I love you."
2025
01:37:17,165 --> 01:37:19,967
- I remember just laying there
in front of 70,000 men and said,
2026
01:37:20,034 --> 01:37:21,135
"Man, I love you, too."
2027
01:37:21,202 --> 01:37:22,170
[chuckles]
2028
01:37:24,972 --> 01:37:27,008
I told him I loved him.
2029
01:37:27,075 --> 01:37:28,910
Verbatim, I said,
"I love you, too."
2030
01:37:29,010 --> 01:37:32,447
Two big-ass tough-ass guys
telling each other
2031
01:37:32,513 --> 01:37:36,684
that they loved the other one in
front of millions of people.
2032
01:37:36,751 --> 01:37:40,888
- I felt like that was a time to
tell Steve because there is no
2033
01:37:40,955 --> 01:37:46,894
other moment in our world
where we are as raw and open
2034
01:37:46,961 --> 01:37:51,332
and vulnerable than in
that moment right there.
2035
01:37:51,866 --> 01:37:55,370
When the one, two three happens,
it's just two men who have gone
2036
01:37:55,436 --> 01:37:57,438
on this incredible journey.
2037
01:37:57,505 --> 01:37:59,607
You know, I have goosebumps
now thinking about it.
2038
01:37:59,674 --> 01:38:03,010
It's-- That was the moment to
say, "Man, I love you
2039
01:38:03,010 --> 01:38:05,012
and I can't
thank you enough."
2040
01:38:09,384 --> 01:38:12,520
- What makes Steve's career
different than most others is
2041
01:38:12,587 --> 01:38:18,392
just how hot he got, how fast he
got hot, and how short of a time
2042
01:38:18,459 --> 01:38:20,795
he had to enjoy it.
2043
01:38:20,862 --> 01:38:22,797
- I was seeing the
end as something
2044
01:38:22,864 --> 01:38:26,567
that will never be replicated.
2045
01:38:26,634 --> 01:38:30,972
Seeing the end of a moment in
a pop culture genre
2046
01:38:31,038 --> 01:38:32,673
that will never be reproduced.
2047
01:38:33,107 --> 01:38:36,310
- Now I can go enjoy the
life that I have in front of me.
2048
01:38:42,950 --> 01:38:45,787
- You know, retirement always
sounds good and then there I was
2049
01:38:45,887 --> 01:38:48,956
and I was doing nothing
and I was going crazy.
2050
01:38:51,592 --> 01:38:52,393
Straight up.
2051
01:38:52,527 --> 01:38:54,362
I-- Man, I hit the
bottle pretty hard.
2052
01:38:58,266 --> 01:39:04,038
- I do know that he was a bit
lost after, you know, having to
2053
01:39:04,105 --> 01:39:06,040
leave the business, trying to
re-define himself
2054
01:39:06,107 --> 01:39:08,876
and see what is life
after wrestling.
2055
01:39:10,678 --> 01:39:14,582
He had three years that he
talked about how he was just
2056
01:39:14,649 --> 01:39:18,519
drinking and eating and
just a little bit depressed.
2057
01:39:21,589 --> 01:39:23,424
- I'll tell you this true story.
2058
01:39:23,424 --> 01:39:25,159
I woke up one morning, I was
looking right at myself
2059
01:39:25,226 --> 01:39:28,763
in the mirror, I said, "Dude,
the things that you are doing
2060
01:39:28,830 --> 01:39:32,466
are not conducive to
living a long life.
2061
01:39:32,466 --> 01:39:35,069
You better straighten
your ass up."
2062
01:39:35,069 --> 01:39:38,406
It took me three years of being
a -- up
2063
01:39:38,472 --> 01:39:40,341
to come to my senses
2064
01:39:40,408 --> 01:39:42,176
to say, "You know what?
2065
01:39:42,276 --> 01:39:43,711
You had to quit the business.
2066
01:39:43,811 --> 01:39:46,080
You ain't doing nothing now.
2067
01:39:46,147 --> 01:39:48,816
You better get your ass out to
LA and try to capitalize on,
2068
01:39:48,916 --> 01:39:51,953
at least, you know, some part of
the name that you spent so long
2069
01:39:51,953 --> 01:39:54,088
trying to build up."
2070
01:39:54,155 --> 01:39:57,992
Look at me, you piece of trash.
2071
01:39:57,992 --> 01:39:59,427
I heard you've been running
around saying you could take me
2072
01:39:59,427 --> 01:40:00,361
in a fight.
2073
01:40:00,428 --> 01:40:02,463
- I didn't say that.
2074
01:40:02,563 --> 01:40:04,398
- Let's get busy Hollywood.
2075
01:40:05,032 --> 01:40:08,603
And initially I came out to
California to get into acting.
2076
01:40:08,669 --> 01:40:10,872
I quickly realized that I
didn't really want to do that.
2077
01:40:10,972 --> 01:40:14,408
And when I found hosting and
reality television type stuff,
2078
01:40:14,475 --> 01:40:16,043
that's when I knew I'd
kind of found my niche.
2079
01:40:17,311 --> 01:40:20,047
I'm "Stone Cold" Steve Austin,
Jerry "The King" Lawler,
2080
01:40:20,114 --> 01:40:23,150
my next guest on Broken Skull
Sessions, check it out.
2081
01:40:23,217 --> 01:40:25,920
And that's the bottom
line because I said so.
2082
01:40:28,422 --> 01:40:29,991
- Great.
2083
01:40:29,991 --> 01:40:32,693
- And so I started podcasting
and the reason I started
2084
01:40:32,793 --> 01:40:34,161
was just keep in
touch with people.
2085
01:40:34,228 --> 01:40:36,530
I guess it was just all built
on the-the history
2086
01:40:36,631 --> 01:40:39,433
of what I put forth inside
the squared circle.
2087
01:40:40,334 --> 01:40:42,637
- He's got, uh,
podcasts that he does.
2088
01:40:42,637 --> 01:40:44,238
He's got TV shows he hosts.
2089
01:40:44,305 --> 01:40:46,440
I would say the biggest
difference between
2090
01:40:46,507 --> 01:40:48,976
the Stone Cold we see now and
the Stone Cold we saw back then,
2091
01:40:49,076 --> 01:40:51,245
he doesn't have the pressure.
2092
01:40:53,347 --> 01:40:54,982
- I'm a civilian now.
2093
01:40:55,049 --> 01:40:56,584
It took me a while to turn
into a civilian,
2094
01:40:56,684 --> 01:40:58,653
but I'm- I'm a civilian now.
2095
01:40:58,753 --> 01:41:01,622
My problem is, man,
I'm Type A personality,
2096
01:41:01,622 --> 01:41:03,190
so I'm always in a hurry.
2097
01:41:03,190 --> 01:41:05,893
I'm in a hurry when I
don't have anything to do.
2098
01:41:05,993 --> 01:41:07,795
This is Brownie, our chocolate
lab we rescued
2099
01:41:07,862 --> 01:41:09,463
about three weeks ago.
2100
01:41:09,463 --> 01:41:12,266
These are my, uh,
Kawasaki KRX 1000s.
2101
01:41:12,266 --> 01:41:14,669
This is my Corvette
and this is KLX 450.
2102
01:41:14,669 --> 01:41:19,040
This truck right here
is a 1966 Chevy C10.
2103
01:41:20,274 --> 01:41:21,609
I'm not a wrestler anymore.
2104
01:41:21,676 --> 01:41:24,312
I had a good time doing it, but
at the end of the day
2105
01:41:24,412 --> 01:41:26,180
now it's about life.
2106
01:41:38,192 --> 01:41:40,227
- When you step through the
curtain, you're in front
2107
01:41:40,227 --> 01:41:44,231
of the paying customer and
that's where you gotta be
2108
01:41:44,298 --> 01:41:48,703
the person they perceive
you to be on television.
2109
01:41:59,146 --> 01:42:04,251
[crowd cheering]
2110
01:42:04,352 --> 01:42:07,521
And you're-you're that person,
from the first step through
2111
01:42:07,588 --> 01:42:13,227
the curtain, until the last
step back through the curtain.
2112
01:42:13,227 --> 01:42:16,864
You're a performer out there.
2113
01:42:18,432 --> 01:42:20,001
- Talk about your Psalms.
2114
01:42:20,001 --> 01:42:21,736
Talk about John 3:16.
2115
01:42:21,802 --> 01:42:25,840
Austin 3:16 says I
just whipped your ass.
2116
01:42:28,709 --> 01:42:29,443
- Austin did it.
2117
01:42:29,510 --> 01:42:31,278
Austin did it.
2118
01:42:31,345 --> 01:42:36,517
- Nobody tells "Stone
Cold" Steve Austin what to do.
2119
01:42:36,584 --> 01:42:42,156
And that's that's the bottom
line because Stone Cold said so.
2120
01:42:45,026 --> 01:42:50,031
- When you come back through the
curtain, you're a human being.
2121
01:42:50,031 --> 01:42:54,068
And those human beings are
worried that moment when I'm
2122
01:42:54,068 --> 01:42:56,437
they step back through
that curtain, "Was I good?
2123
01:42:56,504 --> 01:42:58,472
Did they like me?
2124
01:42:58,472 --> 01:42:59,940
Did I do all I can do?
2125
01:43:00,041 --> 01:43:02,510
Did I maximize my minutes?"
2126
01:43:03,878 --> 01:43:06,647
Coming back through is where
the rubber meets the road.
2127
01:43:09,116 --> 01:43:11,719
That curtain is a big thing.
2128
01:43:11,786 --> 01:43:15,690
And how you navigate the curtain
and how you react on both sides
2129
01:43:15,790 --> 01:43:16,424
of it largely
spells your success
2130
01:43:16,557 --> 01:43:17,792
in the pro
wrestling business.
2131
01:43:20,461 --> 01:43:22,930
- Look, I got placed in a
real good situation, and I got a
2132
01:43:23,030 --> 01:43:26,667
chance to have a lot of
fun doing something I love.
2133
01:43:26,667 --> 01:43:28,402
But like I still feel like I'm
sitting here in this damn chair
2134
01:43:28,469 --> 01:43:33,874
and I'm still Steve,
the dude from Edna.
2135
01:43:33,874 --> 01:43:40,114
In my mind and in
my eyes, that's me.
2136
01:43:40,214 --> 01:43:42,249
That's all I can say.
2137
01:43:54,061 --> 01:43:55,563
- So now that you've seen the
full biography,
2138
01:43:55,629 --> 01:43:57,231
I think it's important to hear
the story
2139
01:43:57,231 --> 01:43:59,633
of when I first met Steve,
and I went in with all these
2140
01:43:59,700 --> 01:44:04,538
preconceived notion of who
"Stone Cold" Steve Austin is.
2141
01:44:04,638 --> 01:44:06,807
I was watching clips
of him in the ring.
2142
01:44:06,874 --> 01:44:08,742
I was reminiscing on my
childhood as to what
2143
01:44:08,809 --> 01:44:11,245
I remembered with this guy who'd
go around and beat up everyone
2144
01:44:11,312 --> 01:44:13,714
that got in his face and
gave everyone the finger
2145
01:44:13,714 --> 01:44:15,583
and chuck beer at them
and all this stuff.
2146
01:44:15,649 --> 01:44:16,951
So I was intimidated.
2147
01:44:16,951 --> 01:44:19,453
I thought I was gonna go into
his house and meet Stone Cold.
2148
01:44:19,553 --> 01:44:20,988
Because everyone said he's
authentic,
2149
01:44:21,088 --> 01:44:24,391
and all I had seen was this guy
who was really aggressive
2150
01:44:24,391 --> 01:44:25,793
and I'm not an
aggressive person.
2151
01:44:25,860 --> 01:44:27,228
So I was intimidated.
2152
01:44:27,228 --> 01:44:29,063
And I walked in his house.
2153
01:44:29,063 --> 01:44:30,464
It was the day
before we were shooting.
2154
01:44:30,464 --> 01:44:31,932
I wanted to meet him with
no cameras around
2155
01:44:32,032 --> 01:44:33,901
and he was getting
ready for his podcast
2156
01:44:34,001 --> 01:44:36,437
and I was just observing
what I had seen.
2157
01:44:36,437 --> 01:44:39,640
I was typing really loudly,
which he said was annoying him.
2158
01:44:39,640 --> 01:44:42,510
And he threw me out of his house
within an hour of meeting him.
2159
01:44:42,610 --> 01:44:45,179
And so I thought,
"Okay, that matches up.
2160
01:44:45,279 --> 01:44:46,480
I just met Stone Cold.
2161
01:44:46,480 --> 01:44:48,716
He threw me out of his house."
2162
01:44:48,816 --> 01:44:51,585
So I didn't know what to do to
get back in his good graces.
2163
01:44:51,585 --> 01:44:54,755
I knew that he liked
tequila and I do too.
2164
01:44:54,822 --> 01:44:56,690
So I bought a bottle of tequila,
I went back to his house
2165
01:44:56,790 --> 01:44:59,193
the next day and I said, "Why'd
you throw me outta your house?
2166
01:44:59,193 --> 01:45:00,628
I didn't even do anything."
2167
01:45:00,628 --> 01:45:02,863
And I think that he was
surprised by that reaction,
2168
01:45:02,863 --> 01:45:04,465
especially coming from me.
2169
01:45:04,565 --> 01:45:08,869
And so immediately I saw a wall
come down and we drank a little
2170
01:45:08,869 --> 01:45:10,538
bit together and we got to
know each other a little more.
2171
01:45:10,638 --> 01:45:13,641
And from that point on, he was
really warm and friendly
2172
01:45:13,707 --> 01:45:15,242
and kind to me.
2173
01:45:15,309 --> 01:45:19,480
And I think that it flipped the
preconceived idea of Stone Cold
2174
01:45:19,547 --> 01:45:22,283
that I had in my head.
2175
01:45:22,349 --> 01:45:24,451
He actually had the ability
to be a really nice, genuine,
2176
01:45:24,552 --> 01:45:27,922
comforting guy.
2177
01:45:27,988 --> 01:45:29,089
I was excited that
that was the case
2178
01:45:29,156 --> 01:45:30,424
because it made
the biography more fun,
2179
01:45:30,524 --> 01:45:32,560
but it also showed
just his emotional depth
2180
01:45:32,626 --> 01:45:35,930
and where he can go if
he wants to go there.
2181
01:45:40,534 --> 01:45:46,540
I think the biggest takeaway
from this doc is what success
2182
01:45:46,640 --> 01:45:48,175
can look like.
2183
01:45:48,242 --> 01:45:50,911
I think people have this image
of success in their head of,
2184
01:45:50,911 --> 01:45:53,714
when you get to the
top, everything is great.
2185
01:45:53,814 --> 01:45:58,752
I think this doc shows there's
many versions of success,
2186
01:45:58,752 --> 01:46:02,623
and Steve's version of success
is singularly focused
2187
01:46:02,723 --> 01:46:06,026
at all costs no matter what.
2188
01:46:06,026 --> 01:46:08,596
That's a way to get to the top,
but just be cautious
2189
01:46:08,662 --> 01:46:11,632
of what that can do
and what being at the top
2190
01:46:11,632 --> 01:46:14,201
actually looks like
and feels like.
2191
01:46:14,268 --> 01:46:16,437
He made the ultimate sacrifices,
which was family, his time,
2192
01:46:16,437 --> 01:46:20,674
his health, and he was willing
to put all of that to the side
2193
01:46:20,674 --> 01:46:23,477
in order to-to march
his way to the top.
2194
01:46:23,477 --> 01:46:25,679
And I think that's a version of
success that's interesting
2195
01:46:25,679 --> 01:46:27,314
to look at.
2196
01:46:27,314 --> 01:46:28,816
And that was
the biggest takeaway
2197
01:46:28,882 --> 01:46:30,818
I had from watching the doc.
2198
01:46:30,868 --> 01:46:35,418
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