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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,770 --> 00:00:06,210 Despite battling numerous civil suits from victims following his release from 2 00:00:06,210 --> 00:00:07,210 jail, 3 00:00:07,450 --> 00:00:13,190 Jeffrey Epstein manages to fade from public view until a series of events in 4 00:00:13,190 --> 00:00:16,630 2017 plunges him back into the spotlight. 5 00:00:17,190 --> 00:00:24,170 The nominee for Secretary of the Department of Labor will be Mr. Alex 6 00:00:25,570 --> 00:00:29,730 Acosta's appointment piques the interest of an investigative reporter from the 7 00:00:29,730 --> 00:00:30,730 Miami Herald. 8 00:00:31,150 --> 00:00:37,830 Julie had been a champion in reporting on women's 9 00:00:37,830 --> 00:00:43,730 issues, and she was definitely aware of Jeffrey Epstein and the sweetheart deal 10 00:00:43,730 --> 00:00:48,630 that Acosta had signed off on in Florida back in 2007. 11 00:00:50,350 --> 00:00:54,910 You've got to put this in perspective with respect to the time. So you're 12 00:00:54,910 --> 00:00:55,910 looking at 2007. 13 00:00:56,880 --> 00:01:01,080 This was a time and age where the Me Too movement didn't exist. 14 00:01:01,620 --> 00:01:04,000 You know, Bill Cosby was still America's dad. 15 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:08,160 Harvey Weinstein was still a wonderful producer in Hollywood. 16 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:17,260 Outraged by the NPA and empowered by the recent Me Too movement, Julie Brown 17 00:01:17,260 --> 00:01:21,340 embarks on her own investigation of Epstein's sex trafficking charges. 18 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:27,600 She got the entire unredacted Palm Beach Police Department file on Jeffrey 19 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:32,500 Epstein. She also got statements from the witnesses that no one had ever seen 20 00:01:32,500 --> 00:01:34,500 before because they'd been under court seal. 21 00:01:35,340 --> 00:01:40,960 Yeah, I had been just curious about where are these girls now and what do 22 00:01:40,960 --> 00:01:45,020 think about this deal? I mean, and how did this affect their lives? 23 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:48,140 Brown tracked down over 60 victims. 24 00:01:48,670 --> 00:01:51,950 including many who had interviewed with Palm Beach police earlier. 25 00:01:52,890 --> 00:01:57,530 About five minutes into it, he took the towel off and started pleasing himself, 26 00:01:57,770 --> 00:02:00,830 which I was very uncomfortable with, and I thought I was going to die. 27 00:02:03,190 --> 00:02:07,750 Brown compiles her research into a comprehensive three -part series for the 28 00:02:07,750 --> 00:02:10,009 Miami Herald in November 2018. 29 00:02:12,090 --> 00:02:16,730 It's an explosive investigative series by the Miami Herald. The title is 30 00:02:16,730 --> 00:02:17,950 Perversion of Justice. 31 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:25,220 While the 2007 Palm Beach investigation really, for the most part, flew under 32 00:02:25,220 --> 00:02:31,220 the radar of the national press, Julie's reporting on Epstein's crimes and then 33 00:02:31,220 --> 00:02:37,140 that subsequent sweetheart deal, well, that ignited a powder keg in 2018. 34 00:02:39,580 --> 00:02:45,560 The attention prompts the FBI to reopen its investigation, compile evidence and 35 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,780 witness testimony, and this time, act. 36 00:02:53,900 --> 00:03:00,240 July 6, 2019, Jeffrey Epstein takes off around 9 o 'clock in the morning from 37 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:05,940 Paris and lands in Cedarboro, New Jersey, around 4 .30 to 5 o 'clock. 38 00:03:06,300 --> 00:03:09,080 It's at that point that his life changes. 39 00:03:10,180 --> 00:03:17,180 An NYPD -FBI joint task force has a clandestine operation set 40 00:03:17,180 --> 00:03:19,160 up at the airport by surprise. 41 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:22,260 He was arrested the moment he landed. 42 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:29,960 for solicitation of child sex trafficking and conspiracy to 43 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:31,820 commit child sex trafficking. 44 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:36,300 United States Attorney Jeffrey Berman announced the indictment against Jeffrey 45 00:03:36,300 --> 00:03:40,400 Epstein, the politically connected financier now facing up to 45 years in 46 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:41,900 on child sex trafficking charges. 47 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:50,940 Jeffrey Epstein was taken to the federal prison in New York City. 48 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:54,380 the Metropolitan Correctional Center. 49 00:03:55,640 --> 00:04:01,680 It's cold, there's vermin, there's understaffing issues, there's equipment 50 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:06,140 issues. I'm pretty sure the bathroom in his airplane was larger than the cell he 51 00:04:06,140 --> 00:04:07,140 was occupying. 52 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:12,000 The whole situation was surreal to him, to be locked up in a place like this. 53 00:04:12,100 --> 00:04:14,080 He'd never been exposed to something like this before. 54 00:04:15,340 --> 00:04:20,019 News of Epstein's arrest ramps up scrutiny on the financier's many 55 00:04:20,019 --> 00:04:21,019 friends. 56 00:04:22,029 --> 00:04:28,050 After Epstein's arrest in 2019, Bill Gates said publicly that he had no 57 00:04:28,050 --> 00:04:34,190 or personal relationship with Epstein. However, it has been reported that Gates 58 00:04:34,190 --> 00:04:39,150 was seen at Epstein's Manhattan townhouse several times in those final 59 00:04:39,970 --> 00:04:43,710 Bill Clinton flew on Epstein's plane several times. 60 00:04:44,450 --> 00:04:48,410 And Ghislaine Maxwell in 2010 at Chelsea's wedding. 61 00:04:49,050 --> 00:04:51,270 And so there's quite a relationship there. 62 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:56,240 But a spokesperson for Bill Clinton said that the former president has not even 63 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:59,100 spoken to Jeffrey Epstein in well over a decade. 64 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:09,720 Now lots of reporters are digging in, and pretty soon a scandalous 1992 video 65 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:12,160 from a party at Mar -a -Lago surfaces. 66 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:18,200 Trump alternates between dancing and pointing out women to Epstein. Trump 67 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:23,900 gestures to one and appears to say to Epstein, look at her back there. She's 68 00:05:23,900 --> 00:05:24,899 hot. 69 00:05:24,900 --> 00:05:30,720 In the video, it is crystal clear. You can see Jeffrey Epstein right up next to 70 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:36,660 Donald Trump. And the two of them together are gawking and groping young 71 00:05:36,740 --> 00:05:39,600 And frankly, it's appalling. 72 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:45,180 Donald Trump gets peppered with questions about Jeffrey Epstein and he 73 00:05:45,180 --> 00:05:46,720 distances himself from Epstein. 74 00:05:49,420 --> 00:05:54,300 I haven't spoken to him in probably 15 years or more. I wasn't a big fan of 75 00:05:54,300 --> 00:05:55,900 Jeffrey Epstein, that I can tell you. 76 00:05:56,180 --> 00:06:01,800 This is a far cry from Donald Trump's statement in 2002 praising Jeffrey 77 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:03,380 as a terrific guy. 78 00:06:04,540 --> 00:06:09,000 The reality was that Jeffrey Epstein and Donald Trump were close for a number of 79 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:10,000 years. 80 00:06:10,220 --> 00:06:12,840 But the heat wasn't just on Donald Trump. 81 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:18,240 It was also on his newly minted Secretary of Labor, Alexander Acosta. 82 00:06:18,500 --> 00:06:23,320 Acosta, the architect of that 2007 sweetheart deal in Florida. 83 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:31,320 Acosta hands in his resignation only a few days after Epstein is arrested. 84 00:06:31,900 --> 00:06:38,340 It would be selfish for me to stay in this position and continue talking about 85 00:06:38,340 --> 00:06:39,580 case that's 12 years old. 86 00:06:40,060 --> 00:06:44,300 rather than about the amazing economy we have right now. President Trump saying 87 00:06:44,300 --> 00:06:46,520 today he still supports Acosta. 88 00:06:46,820 --> 00:06:47,799 I'm with him. 89 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:50,080 He's a tremendous talent. 90 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:52,220 He's a Hispanic man. 91 00:06:52,500 --> 00:06:53,640 He went to Harvard. 92 00:06:54,120 --> 00:07:00,460 It was a pretty flip way to refer to the abuse of dozens of girls, 93 00:07:00,620 --> 00:07:04,080 right? Calling it a case that's 12 years old. 94 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:08,460 And the fact that neither of them actually expressed any sympathy. 95 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:13,920 For these girls, these kids, it just seemed really unsettling. 96 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:20,920 Jeffrey Epstein had asked me to formally take over the case. 97 00:07:21,860 --> 00:07:26,500 I said to him that I would do it because I wanted to help him on the case, and 98 00:07:26,500 --> 00:07:30,340 he was very upbeat and excited about the strategies that we had discussed. 99 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:33,940 He was looking forward to fighting his case. 100 00:07:35,180 --> 00:07:42,180 Epstein was an arrogant man. He felt that he was not only above the law in 101 00:07:42,180 --> 00:07:46,800 way, he believed that he was smarter than most other people. 102 00:07:47,180 --> 00:07:49,760 He believed he could buy everything and everyone. 103 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:55,000 Will he give up the names of the powerful men he allegedly serviced with 104 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:56,000 underage girls? 105 00:07:56,340 --> 00:07:59,980 One of the options that's going to be potentially available to him is 106 00:07:59,980 --> 00:08:00,980 cooperation. 107 00:08:01,470 --> 00:08:06,310 One would have to imagine that a lot of Epstein's powerful friends were swarming 108 00:08:06,310 --> 00:08:11,570 at this point. They had to wonder, would Epstein give up their secrets to save 109 00:08:11,570 --> 00:08:12,570 himself? 110 00:08:22,570 --> 00:08:27,210 The 66 -year -old multimillionaire hedge fund manager, Jeffrey Epstein, was 111 00:08:27,210 --> 00:08:29,950 found unresponsive in his cell Saturday morning. 112 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:32,200 Jeffrey Epstein's death. 113 00:08:32,419 --> 00:08:36,559 It is all over every television network that you can imagine. 114 00:08:38,820 --> 00:08:42,320 One source tells CBS News Epstein hanged himself. 115 00:08:47,660 --> 00:08:48,700 I was shocked. 116 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:54,280 Suicide didn't seem likely to me. He was planning to fight the case, clear his 117 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:59,500 name. I knew there would be a medical examination immediately. 118 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:05,180 So I suggested that the family send in an independent medical examiner. I've 119 00:09:05,180 --> 00:09:06,180 done this before. 120 00:09:06,680 --> 00:09:10,240 I suggested Michael Bodden. I think he's one of the best in the world. 121 00:09:12,420 --> 00:09:14,240 My name is Cyril H. Weck. 122 00:09:14,500 --> 00:09:20,380 I am a forensic pathologist. I have been studying the Epstein case since I was 123 00:09:20,380 --> 00:09:23,160 first contacted by my colleague, Dr. Michael Bodden. 124 00:09:23,660 --> 00:09:30,300 Dr. Barton has a wealth of experience, including cases involving hangings in 125 00:09:30,300 --> 00:09:31,300 jails. 126 00:09:31,620 --> 00:09:37,800 He attended the autopsy as the official representative of the Epstein family. 127 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:44,240 Six days later, the state medical examiner releases the autopsy results. 128 00:09:44,980 --> 00:09:48,800 The chief medical examiner ruled the manner of death as suicide. 129 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:55,340 I think that people have... understandable suspicions given the 130 00:09:55,340 --> 00:09:56,380 Jeffrey Epstein. 131 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,700 Dr. Michael Bodden goes public with his own conclusion. 132 00:10:04,420 --> 00:10:10,360 Well, I was asked by the brother, the next of kin, to be at the autopsy. And 133 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:15,020 the autopsy on day one, there were findings that were unusual for suicidal 134 00:10:15,020 --> 00:10:19,980 hanging. Several aspects of Epstein's death are troubling to the renowned 135 00:10:19,980 --> 00:10:24,680 pathologist. beginning with what was found inside Epstein's prison cell. 136 00:10:25,100 --> 00:10:30,440 If you look at the photographs, the postmortems of his jail cell, and you 137 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:35,820 at how many bedsheets were inside that cell, he's given tens of bedsheets. 138 00:10:38,340 --> 00:10:43,460 He's also got a sleep apnea machine with long electrical cords attached. 139 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:48,300 Now remember, this is a man who they thought had attempted suicide just weeks 140 00:10:48,300 --> 00:10:49,300 earlier. 141 00:10:50,380 --> 00:10:55,760 How in the world, if you have someone on suicide watch, would you allow those 142 00:10:55,760 --> 00:11:00,460 kinds of physical structures to be present in the cell? How do you think 143 00:11:00,460 --> 00:11:01,460 hang themselves? 144 00:11:01,540 --> 00:11:03,120 So this is bothersome. 145 00:11:05,220 --> 00:11:10,580 Examining Epstein's neck abrasion during the autopsy, Bodden notices more 146 00:11:10,580 --> 00:11:16,260 peculiarities. The mark around the neck of a person who has been strangled or 147 00:11:16,260 --> 00:11:19,480 who has hanged himself is what we call a furrow. 148 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:26,920 Usually in hangings, the furrow mark is found up high in the neck, sort of right 149 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:32,220 under the jawline. Because if you think about it, the noose slides up the neck 150 00:11:32,220 --> 00:11:35,180 as the weight of the body is pulled down. 151 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:42,700 It is important to see and note the furrow is significantly lower on 152 00:11:42,700 --> 00:11:48,020 neck, which is quite rare in cases of a hanging. 153 00:11:49,770 --> 00:11:56,210 In order for Jeffrey Epstein to die the way he died, under the autopsy results, 154 00:11:56,750 --> 00:12:03,590 he had to put the noose around his neck himself and had to hold the noose down 155 00:12:03,590 --> 00:12:05,610 to near his chest. 156 00:12:06,570 --> 00:12:11,050 Low furrow marks like Epstein's are more commonly found in strangulation 157 00:12:11,050 --> 00:12:12,050 homicides. 158 00:12:14,190 --> 00:12:18,790 More doubt about a suicide emerges when Bodden looks under the skin. 159 00:12:19,390 --> 00:12:24,270 There are multiple, three fractures in the hyoid bone, the thyroid cartilage, 160 00:12:24,430 --> 00:12:31,170 that are very unusual for suicide and more indicative of strangulation, 161 00:12:31,390 --> 00:12:32,410 homicidal strangulation. 162 00:12:32,930 --> 00:12:39,330 The hyoid bone is a relatively delicate, small, U -shaped bone, high up in the 163 00:12:39,330 --> 00:12:46,290 neck, and the thyroid cartilage, the Adam's apple, that's below, lower down. 164 00:12:46,290 --> 00:12:51,410 there were three fractures, one of the hyoid bone, up high on the left side, 165 00:12:51,410 --> 00:12:55,650 then two more fractures of the thyroid cartilage, one on each side. 166 00:12:56,370 --> 00:13:02,750 Have you ever seen anyone that committed suicide and was hanging themselves with 167 00:13:02,750 --> 00:13:04,230 those three broken bones? No. 168 00:13:04,810 --> 00:13:10,210 Hanging does not cause these broken bones, and homicide does. 169 00:13:14,090 --> 00:13:18,310 You don't get hyoid bone fractures in cases. 170 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:21,060 of hanging their rear. 171 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:27,340 Dr. Bodden eventually said to me that in over 20 ,000 autopsies, he had never 172 00:13:27,340 --> 00:13:31,140 seen injuries like this consistent with a suicide and therefore did not believe 173 00:13:31,140 --> 00:13:32,140 it was a suicide. 174 00:13:32,940 --> 00:13:36,940 He believed this was manual strangulation, homicide. 175 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:44,280 Once Bodden went public with his conclusion that this was murder, it 176 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:49,460 Like a tsunami was unleashed. There were conspiracy theories and memes about it 177 00:13:49,460 --> 00:13:51,480 exploding all over the Internet. 178 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:57,400 And as you can imagine, in our political climate these days, everyone's theory 179 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:01,940 had sort of a tone of accusing one political party or another. 180 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:04,980 The big question is this. 181 00:14:05,380 --> 00:14:08,940 Who would most benefit from Epstein's demise? 182 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:12,160 A lot of people were probably happy that he's dead. 183 00:14:13,180 --> 00:14:14,340 Dead men tell no tales. 184 00:14:25,220 --> 00:14:29,800 Jeffrey Epstein's death is raising troubling questions about how such a 185 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:34,340 -profile suspect could apparently take his own life while in custody. But it's 186 00:14:34,340 --> 00:14:36,460 also raising some conspiracy theories. 187 00:14:36,780 --> 00:14:42,120 If it was murder, many suspect shadowy forces in the U .S. government. 188 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:48,520 All Jeffrey's troubles second time around began when Trump appointed Acosta 189 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:53,680 the cabinet because the U .S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York 190 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:58,320 started investigating for that non -prosecution agreement given to Jeffrey 191 00:14:58,320 --> 00:14:59,320 Epstein. 192 00:15:00,460 --> 00:15:05,900 There was a peculiar aspect to the Epstein arrest at Teterboro that was 193 00:15:05,900 --> 00:15:11,540 reported. He was not arrested by agents of the FBI with the Child Exploitation 194 00:15:11,540 --> 00:15:16,730 Unit. It was agents from the government corruption unit that handcuffed him. 195 00:15:18,030 --> 00:15:22,530 So that suggested to me that there was a political angle to this thing. And 196 00:15:22,530 --> 00:15:25,930 there has been a great deal of talk about the prominent political friends 197 00:15:25,930 --> 00:15:27,870 Jeffrey Epstein had and other wealthy friends. 198 00:15:29,110 --> 00:15:33,750 So was this arrest really about going after Jeffrey's crime? 199 00:15:34,250 --> 00:15:37,990 Or was this arrest more about going after potential corruption? 200 00:15:38,620 --> 00:15:42,460 and government officials who helped him weasel out of those crimes. 201 00:15:43,580 --> 00:15:45,600 I believe that Epstein was killed. 202 00:15:46,580 --> 00:15:50,520 And I believe that if he was not, he would have talked. 203 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:54,920 And he would have pointed fingers at everyone he needed to point fingers, 204 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:59,480 including government officials, who looked the other way. 205 00:16:02,140 --> 00:16:07,360 Others, however, wonder if some of the elites Epstein associated with wanted to 206 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:08,360 silence him. 207 00:16:08,510 --> 00:16:10,750 due to information he might have on them. 208 00:16:11,510 --> 00:16:14,990 We know that he had numerous visitors to his homes. 209 00:16:15,330 --> 00:16:18,750 There are accounts of young girls that worked within the home that saw the 210 00:16:18,750 --> 00:16:22,510 cameras, that saw the recording systems, that he bragged to those girls about 211 00:16:22,510 --> 00:16:23,510 the recording systems. 212 00:16:24,870 --> 00:16:31,270 Many people also wonder if Epstein's private jet called the Lolita Express 213 00:16:31,270 --> 00:16:33,590 used as part of a blackmail scheme. 214 00:16:34,930 --> 00:16:38,650 The flight logs that we looked at, proved that Jeffrey Epstein was flying 215 00:16:38,650 --> 00:16:39,650 underage girls. 216 00:16:43,230 --> 00:16:49,470 In 1997, Glenn says to me, the plane is wired for video and audio. 217 00:16:49,850 --> 00:16:51,710 She volunteers this information. 218 00:16:52,290 --> 00:16:54,350 Why does she say this to me? 219 00:16:55,110 --> 00:16:59,630 One thing that I know for sure is that if you're filming your friends and they 220 00:16:59,630 --> 00:17:02,390 don't know about it, you're not their friend. 221 00:17:04,589 --> 00:17:08,530 If any of that surveillance got out, it would be incredibly embarrassing. 222 00:17:10,230 --> 00:17:15,609 There are many powerful people whose secrets might have died with Epstein. 223 00:17:16,030 --> 00:17:22,690 But one notorious friendship steals the world's attention even before Epstein's 224 00:17:22,690 --> 00:17:23,690 death. 225 00:17:24,810 --> 00:17:31,750 According to Virginia Roberts, she was paid $15 ,000 to service Prince 226 00:17:31,750 --> 00:17:36,120 Andrew. And she services Prince Andrew three times in three different cities, 227 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:39,900 New York, London, and then the United States, Virgin Islands. 228 00:17:41,120 --> 00:17:46,240 Once the press heard about Virginia's allegations against Prince Andrew, they 229 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:47,119 went nuts. 230 00:17:47,120 --> 00:17:52,280 Everyone wondered, was there more incriminating evidence about the prince 231 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:53,280 to drop? 232 00:17:53,780 --> 00:17:57,040 The speculations about Jeffrey Epstein's friendship with Prince Andrew is 233 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:58,280 increasingly condemnatory. 234 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:03,140 The royal family are held to a higher level of scrutiny. 235 00:18:04,120 --> 00:18:07,640 They are expected to be greater in terms of their behavior. 236 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:10,060 They're not just hanging around with someone who's unsavory. 237 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:12,460 What on earth is he doing? 238 00:18:14,260 --> 00:18:20,560 After Epstein's death, Prince Andrew takes to the airwaves in an effort to 239 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:21,560 his name. 240 00:18:21,820 --> 00:18:25,820 I didn't have much time with him. I suppose I saw him... 241 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:31,280 Once or twice a year, perhaps maybe three times a year. But it would be a 242 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:35,680 considerable stretch to say that he was a very, very close friend. 243 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:40,940 Prince Andrew decides that the way to sort all of this out is to give an 244 00:18:40,940 --> 00:18:46,220 interview to the Newsnight programme, a BBC programme which is known for its 245 00:18:46,220 --> 00:18:47,800 forensic questioning of politicians. 246 00:18:48,580 --> 00:18:52,040 I mean, yes, I would go and stay in his house, but that was because of his 247 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:53,040 girlfriend. 248 00:18:53,150 --> 00:18:57,550 Andrew says he didn't regret his friendship with Epstein because through 249 00:18:57,550 --> 00:19:03,490 he'd been introduced to so many interesting people. The people that I 250 00:19:03,490 --> 00:19:10,470 the opportunities that I was given to learn, either by him 251 00:19:10,470 --> 00:19:14,130 or because of him, were actually very useful. 252 00:19:16,460 --> 00:19:21,820 Prince Andrew is pressed about the incriminating photograph taken with then 253 00:19:21,820 --> 00:19:23,300 -year -old Virginia Roberts. 254 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:30,660 I can tell you categorically, I don't remember meeting her at all. 255 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:34,000 I do not remember the photograph being taken. 256 00:19:34,300 --> 00:19:38,900 And I've said consistently and frequently 257 00:19:38,900 --> 00:19:44,840 that we never had any sort of sexual contact, whatever. 258 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:50,000 Prince Andrew has his arms around her and Ghislaine Maxwell is in the 259 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:55,880 background. And that photo really makes it clear that Virginia Roberts did meet 260 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:56,799 Prince Andrew. 261 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:58,060 She did meet him. 262 00:19:59,120 --> 00:20:05,880 I admit fully that my judgment was probably coloured 263 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:12,840 by my tendency to be too honourable, but that's just the way it 264 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:13,840 is. 265 00:20:14,730 --> 00:20:19,270 Throughout an hour of interview, Prince Andrew never expressed any sympathy for 266 00:20:19,270 --> 00:20:22,970 Epstein's victims, for these young, exploited girls who suffered so much. 267 00:20:23,590 --> 00:20:28,230 That terrible interview was just excoriated by the press, especially the 268 00:20:28,230 --> 00:20:29,230 press. 269 00:20:30,210 --> 00:20:33,970 People say he's not the brightest, and certainly if you saw that interview, you 270 00:20:33,970 --> 00:20:38,390 know he's not the brightest, okay? That he's arrogant and entitled. 271 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:44,000 Prince Andrew has to step back from war duties, and it's the right thing for the 272 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:44,939 royal family to do. 273 00:20:44,940 --> 00:20:49,800 How on earth could this man, who had been out socializing with a convicted 274 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:52,160 pedophile, then go and represent the country? 275 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:59,580 After Epstein's death at the MCC, it has been reported that the FBI approached 276 00:20:59,580 --> 00:21:03,900 the prince. They wanted to interview him, and he publicly agreed to 277 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:08,700 However, to date, the prince has not interviewed with the FBI. 278 00:21:11,850 --> 00:21:17,210 Those who believe it was murder also point to compelling clues found among 279 00:21:17,210 --> 00:21:18,350 financier's possession. 280 00:21:18,890 --> 00:21:25,590 After his arrest, the FBI raided his home in Manhattan on 71st Street. 281 00:21:26,090 --> 00:21:32,230 They find troves of pictures of underage girls and nude pictures and possibly 282 00:21:32,230 --> 00:21:36,710 pictures with prominent people on them. Potential blackmail information that he 283 00:21:36,710 --> 00:21:38,590 had probably collected from his surveillance cameras. 284 00:21:39,350 --> 00:21:45,870 They cracked open the safe, and the safe contained cash, I believe 285 00:21:45,870 --> 00:21:49,250 $70 ,000, diamonds, single diamonds. 286 00:21:50,310 --> 00:21:56,230 To some, another item found in Epstein's safe seems to support the theory that 287 00:21:56,230 --> 00:21:58,490 he was connected to international intelligence. 288 00:21:59,370 --> 00:22:04,090 Inside the safe, they also find a passport with his picture. 289 00:22:04,810 --> 00:22:07,730 It was issued by Austria. 290 00:22:09,230 --> 00:22:14,510 with the address of a crown prince of Saudi Arabia, 291 00:22:14,730 --> 00:22:19,890 which is incredibly odd. 292 00:22:20,870 --> 00:22:26,530 It's well known that spies use foreign passports. 293 00:22:26,890 --> 00:22:31,710 So the question became, is it possible that Jeffrey Epstein was co -opted by a 294 00:22:31,710 --> 00:22:36,950 foreign entity to spy on the rich and powerful and use a sex ring to get some 295 00:22:36,950 --> 00:22:41,870 pretty compromising information called, in the business, Compromat? 296 00:22:44,370 --> 00:22:50,470 We also know that because of his connections through Ghislaine Maxwell, 297 00:22:50,470 --> 00:22:54,350 possibly had high -level security information on behalf of governments 298 00:22:54,350 --> 00:22:55,630 throughout the world. 299 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:59,900 And there could potentially be people that didn't want him talking about those 300 00:22:59,900 --> 00:23:02,180 connections and things that he knew. 301 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:06,360 This is someone that a lot of people didn't want talking. 302 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:12,340 Although many believe the secret agent theory explains both Epstein's wealth 303 00:23:12,340 --> 00:23:15,860 suspicious death, others find that idea absurd. 304 00:23:16,460 --> 00:23:20,480 But I do know that he certainly was capable of blackmailing people. 305 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,480 I don't think he was involved in any intelligence operations. 306 00:23:25,409 --> 00:23:27,110 Nonsense. Nonsense. 307 00:23:30,290 --> 00:23:34,990 While there's no definitive proof Epstein had blackmail information on 308 00:23:34,990 --> 00:23:40,810 government officials or the superpower poll, or that he was a spy, one question 309 00:23:40,810 --> 00:23:41,810 still remains. 310 00:23:42,190 --> 00:23:46,570 If somebody killed him, how did they have access to his cell? 311 00:23:47,110 --> 00:23:48,830 How did they organize? 312 00:23:50,370 --> 00:23:52,910 This was an organized killing. 313 00:23:58,990 --> 00:24:03,510 Amidst a sea of theories surrounding powerful figures who might have ordered 314 00:24:03,510 --> 00:24:10,190 Epstein's murder, the question is, who could have done it inside prison walls? 315 00:24:11,110 --> 00:24:14,310 I think if my theory is right, it would have to be another inmate. 316 00:24:14,630 --> 00:24:19,410 Jeffrey told me that he was very concerned about being incarcerated 317 00:24:19,550 --> 00:24:21,710 People were constantly commenting about him. 318 00:24:22,690 --> 00:24:26,790 Someone who was charged with the kinds of crimes that Jeffrey Epstein was 319 00:24:26,790 --> 00:24:27,689 charged with. 320 00:24:27,690 --> 00:24:32,850 fooling around with 14, 15, 16 -year -old girls is going to be persona non 321 00:24:32,850 --> 00:24:36,590 grata, even to the most vile of other prisoners. 322 00:24:36,810 --> 00:24:38,650 This is going to be repulsive. 323 00:24:39,830 --> 00:24:41,970 The question is, how does someone get in and get out? 324 00:24:42,250 --> 00:24:47,230 Well, I've learned a great deal about what inmates, through their ingenuity, 325 00:24:47,230 --> 00:24:51,950 and not do. People are very, very inventive in these situations. 326 00:24:57,930 --> 00:25:02,230 Some close to Epstein quickly point a finger at a possible suspect. 327 00:25:02,970 --> 00:25:06,710 Remember that first time that Jeffrey Epstein was suspected of attempting 328 00:25:06,710 --> 00:25:08,650 suicide and put on a suicide watch? 329 00:25:08,870 --> 00:25:15,050 At that time, he had a cellmate, a muscle -bound suspected murderer named 330 00:25:15,050 --> 00:25:16,370 Nicholas Tartaglione. 331 00:25:18,790 --> 00:25:24,410 Tartaglione was a former cop, 240, 250 pounds, muscular, 332 00:25:24,670 --> 00:25:26,490 burly guy. 333 00:25:28,750 --> 00:25:33,350 He was charged with four murders and is looking at a death sentence. 334 00:25:36,890 --> 00:25:41,130 Epstein reportedly told his lawyers, who came to visit him almost every single 335 00:25:41,130 --> 00:25:43,950 day, that he was scared of Tartaglione. 336 00:25:44,590 --> 00:25:48,070 He said that Tartaglione was on a mission to, quote, rough him up. 337 00:25:49,570 --> 00:25:55,830 Jeffrey had some abrasions on his neck after the first incident, which nobody 338 00:25:55,830 --> 00:25:57,550 really ever figured out. 339 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:01,600 Was it a suicide attempt, or was it his bunkie attacking him? 340 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,340 I asked him, I said, what happened, Jeffrey, that night? 341 00:26:05,860 --> 00:26:06,860 And he said, 342 00:26:07,820 --> 00:26:10,920 I don't know, I got up in the middle of the night to get a drink of water. I 343 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:12,220 don't remember anything after that. 344 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:19,420 According to Tartaglione's attorney, when Epstein tried to commit suicide the 345 00:26:19,420 --> 00:26:24,120 first time, that Tartaglione was the one who alerted all the guards and tried to 346 00:26:24,120 --> 00:26:24,939 save him. 347 00:26:24,940 --> 00:26:30,860 And the strongest proof exonerating Tartaglione for Epstein's murder lies in 348 00:26:30,860 --> 00:26:31,860 alibi. 349 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:37,500 Tartaglione had been transferred out of Epstein's cell after that first suicide 350 00:26:37,500 --> 00:26:39,740 attempt and before his death. 351 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:46,020 And so the likelihood that somehow this big hulking guy could have made his way 352 00:26:46,020 --> 00:26:51,660 back to Jeffrey Epstein's cell, killed Epstein and then slinked off into the... 353 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:55,080 you know, jail nighttime, it just doesn't sound reasonable. 354 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:08,500 Epstein's inmate suicide watch counselor, Bill Mercy, is one of the 355 00:27:08,500 --> 00:27:10,140 to have spoken with Epstein. 356 00:27:10,900 --> 00:27:17,200 I probably spent five or six four -hour shifts in the presence of Jeffrey 357 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,460 Epstein with me watching him. 358 00:27:19,870 --> 00:27:22,150 He didn't talk about Prince Andrew or anybody else. 359 00:27:23,250 --> 00:27:25,150 He didn't really volunteer information. 360 00:27:25,590 --> 00:27:28,310 For a suicide inmate, he was pretty well adjusted. 361 00:27:28,730 --> 00:27:31,510 He wasn't a prima donna or a diva. 362 00:27:31,750 --> 00:27:36,030 He didn't complain. The only complaint I ever heard from him was they gave him 363 00:27:36,030 --> 00:27:37,030 the wrong laxative. 364 00:27:41,210 --> 00:27:46,710 He didn't strike me as depressed, but he was really apprehensive about prison 365 00:27:46,710 --> 00:27:47,930 life. He was scared. 366 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:56,400 In the middle of conversations, his eyes would drift off like, oh, my 367 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,320 God, I'm in prison. Am I ever going to get out of here? 368 00:28:00,380 --> 00:28:02,040 Prison, it's not a fun place. 369 00:28:03,260 --> 00:28:08,980 You're in your cell 23 hours a day. You shower three times a week, and there's 370 00:28:08,980 --> 00:28:13,580 mice, and there's water bugs, and it's real noisy, and it's cold. 371 00:28:15,740 --> 00:28:19,940 It's a long way down from a $77 million mansion on the Upper East Side. 372 00:28:25,460 --> 00:28:27,860 There's no way somebody got in there and killed him. 373 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:32,360 You know how many people you'd have to pay off to get in there and kill them? 374 00:28:33,120 --> 00:28:35,220 It's just, no way. 375 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:43,000 That said, some of the people that Jeffrey Epstein could have ruined with 376 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,080 secrets. They had plenty of money to pay anybody off. 377 00:28:46,580 --> 00:28:52,160 One striking piece of anecdotal evidence that supports the theory of suicide can 378 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:55,300 be found in the records of Epstein's vast wealth. 379 00:28:56,420 --> 00:29:02,300 Epstein, 48 hours prior to him killing himself, if that's what happened, 380 00:29:02,300 --> 00:29:06,260 and changes his will to be collapsed into a trust in the Virgin Islands. 381 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,480 People in the Virgin Islands that are older... 382 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:14,360 Their lawyers advise them, don't file your estate or your will or your probate 383 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:19,240 in the Virgin Islands. File it in the mainland because it'll take nine, ten 384 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,480 years before people in your will see any of the benefits of that. 385 00:29:25,540 --> 00:29:30,220 So this will make it very difficult for victims to get any type of restitution 386 00:29:30,220 --> 00:29:31,220 from his estate. 387 00:29:35,460 --> 00:29:38,860 Tying up all his money in international red tape. 388 00:29:39,340 --> 00:29:44,520 That very well might have been a final F .U. to his victims if, in fact, he was 389 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:45,520 planning to kill himself. 390 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:51,820 For all the conspiracy theorists out there about Jeffrey Epstein's suicide 391 00:29:51,820 --> 00:29:56,500 versus murder, this is what I say. You're the same guys who think that the 392 00:29:56,500 --> 00:29:57,500 landing was fake. 393 00:30:00,740 --> 00:30:01,840 Don't be ridiculous. 394 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:04,620 Get over it. He killed himself. 395 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:05,960 You're tripping. 396 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,420 There's no question about it in my mind. 397 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:10,980 Case closed for me. 398 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:18,300 As far as how Epstein died, people either firmly believe he committed 399 00:30:18,300 --> 00:30:20,620 they strongly believe he was murdered. 400 00:30:21,340 --> 00:30:23,580 But there could be a third possibility. 401 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:29,100 What if Epstein did in fact hang himself and he had help doing it? 402 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,880 Investigators and lawyers have more questions than answers about what 403 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,220 inside that New York jail at dawn Saturday. 404 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:50,040 I think it was a homicide, but I don't know who killed him. 405 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:56,520 The simplest answer to me always rings true, and the simplest answer is he 406 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,200 killed himself because he didn't want a secret reveal. 407 00:31:00,740 --> 00:31:05,260 I think he was ready to sing, and perhaps that's why he was murdered. 408 00:31:10,730 --> 00:31:15,410 The Attorney General of the United States decides to weigh in on this case, 409 00:31:15,510 --> 00:31:16,309 William Barr. 410 00:31:16,310 --> 00:31:18,350 And he says that this was no murder. 411 00:31:18,570 --> 00:31:23,270 He says this was just a perfect storm of screw -ups within the prison system. 412 00:31:23,670 --> 00:31:30,050 I was appalled, and indeed the whole department was, and frankly angry, 413 00:31:30,330 --> 00:31:36,950 to learn of the MCC's failure to adequately secure this prisoner. 414 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:43,820 But come on, Epstein was the most high -profile prisoner in the entire system 415 00:31:43,820 --> 00:31:48,600 the time. What if these failures that Barr talked about weren't failures, but 416 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:53,520 rather deliberate acts of incompetence that allowed Epstein to take his own 417 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:54,520 life? 418 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:03,880 I do know that they put him on suicide watch, and then inexplicably they took 419 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:04,880 him off. Why? 420 00:32:05,300 --> 00:32:06,600 Why don't you do that? 421 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,240 They released him within a week. 422 00:32:10,660 --> 00:32:11,660 That's absurd. 423 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:13,200 Unheard of. Absurd. 424 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:18,720 He should have been on suicide watch. But somebody wanted him off and had to 425 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:19,720 choose to make that happen. 426 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:22,840 He is now by himself. 427 00:32:23,180 --> 00:32:26,940 The very next day, we have Epstein found dead. 428 00:32:30,500 --> 00:32:35,680 Epstein had extension cords in his cell block. He had sheets at his disposal. 429 00:32:37,930 --> 00:32:43,730 And guess what? The two guards who were assigned to watch him on a 24 -hour 430 00:32:43,730 --> 00:32:48,870 basis were so tired from being overworked that they fell asleep. 431 00:32:52,610 --> 00:32:56,950 There would be astronomical odds that you would have all of those things occur 432 00:32:56,950 --> 00:33:01,390 at that particular time in that fashion, especially in this kind of a federal 433 00:33:01,390 --> 00:33:04,310 prison. It seems like almost it was an invitation. 434 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,100 Like they were saying, please kill yourself. 435 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:11,940 Here's all the stuff you need to do it. 436 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:18,780 Jeffrey Epstein was by far the most famous person in that jail at that time. 437 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:22,100 Everybody was interested in what he was doing every minute of the day. 438 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,480 Everything he ate, everybody who came to visit him. 439 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,580 And I just, I'm very skeptical. 440 00:33:28,980 --> 00:33:35,900 Maybe someone very powerful knew that Epstein was on the edge and then decided 441 00:33:35,900 --> 00:33:36,589 to just. 442 00:33:36,590 --> 00:33:37,590 Turn up the heat. 443 00:33:41,470 --> 00:33:47,710 Even more shocking to some, the only individuals charged with crimes to date 444 00:33:47,710 --> 00:33:52,850 those at the bottom of the jail's hierarchy, prison guards Michael Thomas 445 00:33:52,850 --> 00:33:53,850 Tova Noel. 446 00:33:56,290 --> 00:34:00,330 I'm Montel Figgins, the defense attorney for Michael Thomas. 447 00:34:00,850 --> 00:34:05,510 Michael Thomas and Ms. Noel were on duty at the time. 448 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,860 that Jeffrey Epstein was found to have died. 449 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:17,540 After the death of Mr. Epstein, there was a huge investigation into how he 450 00:34:17,540 --> 00:34:21,340 and what role the guards may have played in that. 451 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:27,360 Mr. Thomas, as well as his co -defendant, Ms. Noel, they were indicted 452 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:32,560 making false statements in the logs regarding... 453 00:34:32,969 --> 00:34:35,510 the checks and the rounds that they were supposed to do. 454 00:34:36,310 --> 00:34:40,429 But the system itself is what failed and allowed this to happen. 455 00:34:40,949 --> 00:34:43,790 The Bureau of Prisons didn't have enough people working. 456 00:34:44,270 --> 00:34:50,290 So the administrative officials were allowing many individuals to work 457 00:34:50,290 --> 00:34:51,690 shifts in a row. 458 00:34:52,310 --> 00:34:55,590 Now, Mr. Thomas faces up to five years in jail. 459 00:34:56,050 --> 00:35:01,070 This is very rare that a guard would be charged with a criminal offense in this 460 00:35:01,070 --> 00:35:06,010 situation. It's my position that the guards in this case are being 461 00:35:07,630 --> 00:35:13,990 I am outraged that the only two people who may go to jail in the entire Epstein 462 00:35:13,990 --> 00:35:20,530 affair are two African -American prison guards that were at MCC the night 463 00:35:20,530 --> 00:35:22,790 that Jeffrey Epstein killed themselves. 464 00:35:23,890 --> 00:35:28,450 Maybe they should be suspended. Maybe they should be fired. But that they 465 00:35:28,450 --> 00:35:29,450 go to jail? 466 00:35:29,570 --> 00:35:30,630 No, no, no. 467 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:32,560 It's not okay. 468 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:39,000 The question remains why everyone in upper -level staff is able to keep their 469 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:42,840 jobs, keep their pensions, not face any jail time. 470 00:35:43,700 --> 00:35:47,840 We will get to the bottom of what happened, and there will be 471 00:35:49,140 --> 00:35:55,700 But even Attorney General Barr has a bizarre connection to this case. 472 00:35:55,940 --> 00:36:00,100 his father was the headmaster of the Dalton School, that elite... 473 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:05,040 School in Manhattan where Jeffrey Epstein, you know, got a job as a 474 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:08,560 it just seems like everybody who was investigating Jeffrey Epstein had some 475 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:13,940 weird twisted connection to him, which begs the question, is this case ever 476 00:36:13,940 --> 00:36:15,220 going to actually be solved? 477 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:22,800 Another question is whether the financiers' alleged co -conspirators 478 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:23,800 face justice. 479 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:26,940 Maxwell, she's in hiding somewhere. 480 00:36:27,780 --> 00:36:29,160 Nobody knows where she is. 481 00:36:31,050 --> 00:36:32,670 A lot of people would like to know where she is. 482 00:36:33,990 --> 00:36:40,970 In 1997, or maybe it was 98, Ghislaine told me very proudly that 483 00:36:40,970 --> 00:36:42,310 she'd got her helicopter license. 484 00:36:42,950 --> 00:36:47,310 And I said to her, why on earth would you want such a thing? 485 00:36:47,530 --> 00:36:49,950 So dangerous. Why would you do that? 486 00:36:50,150 --> 00:36:51,150 Why would you want that? 487 00:36:51,190 --> 00:36:53,430 And she said, for secrecy. 488 00:36:54,770 --> 00:36:56,310 She's a fugitive now. 489 00:36:57,350 --> 00:37:00,230 Jelaine Maxwell is a fugitive. 490 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:05,740 I would love to see justice in the form of every co -conspirator needs to be 491 00:37:05,740 --> 00:37:06,558 behind bars. 492 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:08,380 They belong there. They're criminals. 493 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:19,540 Now that Jeffrey Epstein is dead and the investigation shrouded in mystery and 494 00:37:19,540 --> 00:37:25,940 doubt, many wonder what will become of the decade's most controversial saga. 495 00:37:27,980 --> 00:37:30,460 The Epstein case goes from 496 00:37:31,370 --> 00:37:38,230 Palm Beach to New York to the White House to Buckingham 497 00:37:38,230 --> 00:37:44,950 Palace, where you have politicians, business leaders, opinion 498 00:37:44,950 --> 00:37:51,090 makers, very powerful people implicated in one way or another. It's so 499 00:37:51,090 --> 00:37:53,710 expansive. It is a global case. 500 00:37:54,390 --> 00:38:00,110 It crosses the political barrier and it is the longest. 501 00:38:00,710 --> 00:38:06,130 running child sex trafficking case in U .S. legal history to date. 502 00:38:07,950 --> 00:38:12,690 What's important about this story is the lawyers and the prosecutors and the 503 00:38:12,690 --> 00:38:14,650 attorney who let him off the hook. 504 00:38:15,070 --> 00:38:17,010 You can't have this in a society. 505 00:38:17,410 --> 00:38:23,210 And Acosta and Krischer, they should be held responsible for what they did. 506 00:38:26,290 --> 00:38:29,330 What this case has, I think, shown... 507 00:38:29,550 --> 00:38:35,170 is that we live in a society with two systems of justice, one for the rich and 508 00:38:35,170 --> 00:38:36,170 one for the poor. 509 00:38:36,370 --> 00:38:39,430 And Epstein knew this all along. Jeffrey knew that. 510 00:38:40,650 --> 00:38:45,110 All these people, from federal prosecutors to politicians to prison 511 00:38:45,190 --> 00:38:46,910 say there will be accountability. 512 00:38:47,350 --> 00:38:51,890 Really? I don't see any indictments. No accountability at all. 513 00:38:52,330 --> 00:38:55,010 To me, it's just been a travesty. 514 00:38:57,710 --> 00:39:00,070 Do you think death was an appropriate punishment? 515 00:39:00,390 --> 00:39:03,310 Do I feel his death was an appropriate punishment? 516 00:39:03,570 --> 00:39:08,510 Absolutely not. It gets nobody justice, and it leaves a lot of unanswered 517 00:39:08,510 --> 00:39:09,510 questions. 518 00:39:09,530 --> 00:39:15,430 The scale of what he did is almost too much for the human mind to take in. We 519 00:39:15,430 --> 00:39:19,510 are talking about, at a minimum, hundreds of victims, potentially 520 00:39:19,510 --> 00:39:21,390 believe it was probably thousands of victims. 521 00:39:23,490 --> 00:39:26,970 Because I believe those who came forward are just at the tip of the iceberg. 522 00:39:27,500 --> 00:39:30,060 Most of them are never going to want to come forward. 523 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,820 And the victims are getting zero right now. 524 00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:39,820 No more payments being issued, not any money. 525 00:39:42,580 --> 00:39:48,720 And I think everybody wants to see justice for the victims here. If I could 526 00:39:48,720 --> 00:39:51,860 a magic wand, all of his estate would go to his victims. 527 00:39:56,750 --> 00:40:02,450 I'd say it's pretty empowering. It's also pretty upsetting to see how many 528 00:40:02,450 --> 00:40:08,310 he's devastated and to see how long this went on for and nobody did anything 529 00:40:08,310 --> 00:40:09,310 about it. 530 00:40:10,190 --> 00:40:13,710 And why did no one do anything about it? 531 00:40:14,410 --> 00:40:18,310 Well, if you think about it, Epstein and Maxwell both maintained that there were 532 00:40:18,310 --> 00:40:22,930 recording devices in the mansions and the properties and the fancy jets. 533 00:40:23,530 --> 00:40:27,750 And there were a lot of really important, powerful people that 534 00:40:27,750 --> 00:40:28,750 through those areas. 535 00:40:29,030 --> 00:40:34,210 So wisdom might have it that there's some pretty compromising video and sound 536 00:40:34,210 --> 00:40:35,890 somewhere out there. 537 00:40:37,730 --> 00:40:42,930 I can only hope that someday it leaks out and the guilty parties get what's 538 00:40:42,930 --> 00:40:43,930 coming to them. 539 00:40:48,940 --> 00:40:53,180 I felt I was held to silence for so long and suffocated by silence. 540 00:40:53,500 --> 00:40:57,540 I gave up everything, and I mean everything, because I gave up my health 541 00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:02,080 Now I'm very, very sick with a brain tumor, so I'm drawing this project. 542 00:41:02,460 --> 00:41:05,260 This tree is the tree of rotten apples. 543 00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,300 These are the evil roots of the apple tree. 544 00:41:08,700 --> 00:41:13,060 Alex Acosta, Ellen Dershowitz, Les Wexner. 545 00:41:13,420 --> 00:41:16,060 I put Jeffrey Epstein up in this UFO. 546 00:41:16,750 --> 00:41:18,630 because he's free and easy flying around. 547 00:41:19,030 --> 00:41:24,710 So Maxwell, you know, her pearls, and fetching children, it's really creepy. 548 00:41:25,610 --> 00:41:28,250 All I wanted was for people to know the truth. 549 00:41:28,750 --> 00:41:32,810 And I'm not going to be quiet about it. I'm not going to be quiet. 550 00:41:36,030 --> 00:41:42,370 I'm doing the series, drawing all the women, all their portraits, honoring 551 00:41:42,470 --> 00:41:44,990 because they're victims, but they're also survivors. 552 00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:51,840 I'm giving them each a drawing so that they know that they matter. 553 00:41:53,940 --> 00:41:57,400 We're binding together in their strength in numbers, let me tell you something. 554 00:41:58,940 --> 00:42:00,420 They aren't going to get away with it anymore. 555 00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:05,660 2020 is the year that the predators become the prey. 556 00:42:08,060 --> 00:42:09,720 It would be a wonderful thing, wouldn't it? 50060

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