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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:59,500 Everything that we know and have learned about mankind and its place in the 2 00:00:59,500 --> 00:01:06,300 universe suggests that we are a part 3 00:01:06,300 --> 00:01:08,680 of the norm. We are not the exception. 4 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:15,920 Within the last month, a planet was identified that has water a mere 110 5 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:16,920 years away from Earth. 6 00:01:17,960 --> 00:01:20,120 We need to begin to prepare. 7 00:01:20,970 --> 00:01:27,630 to accept and understand that we are not alone in the universe, have not been 8 00:01:27,630 --> 00:01:29,550 at all throughout this time. 9 00:01:31,770 --> 00:01:37,430 The same year that life -giving water was discovered on a distant planet, the 10 00:01:37,430 --> 00:01:39,570 .S. Navy made a startling announcement. 11 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:48,560 Images captured by its pilots of objects exhibiting a vastly superior technology 12 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:50,180 were authentic. 13 00:01:54,960 --> 00:02:01,060 We can start to finally, at long last, after all these decades, begin to answer 14 00:02:01,060 --> 00:02:06,500 these questions about the origin of these vehicles, where they're from, how 15 00:02:06,500 --> 00:02:09,259 they're made, how they function and why they're here. 16 00:02:17,070 --> 00:02:20,250 People need to know there is something else out there. 17 00:02:23,490 --> 00:02:29,490 To fully understand, we must examine a body of evidence long suppressed, 18 00:02:29,750 --> 00:02:36,130 a parallel history to the one we think we know, stretching back at least 70 19 00:02:36,130 --> 00:02:37,130 years. 20 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:50,780 On a clear, sunny day in 1955, William Coleman, a decorated World War II pilot, 21 00:02:50,980 --> 00:02:56,900 took off from Miami on a routine flight to deliver a B -25 bomber to an air base 22 00:02:56,900 --> 00:02:57,900 in Mississippi. 23 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:03,700 My co -pilot said, look at that bright spot up there. I think it's just a 24 00:03:03,700 --> 00:03:07,240 reflection of the sun, a craze probably in the windshield. 25 00:03:09,460 --> 00:03:15,380 He and his passengers, two aviation engineers, realized it was a strange 26 00:03:15,380 --> 00:03:19,280 making a rapid descent right across their flight path. 27 00:03:19,820 --> 00:03:21,680 My God, look at that thing. 28 00:03:22,380 --> 00:03:25,100 Now open it up to max continuous power. 29 00:03:25,420 --> 00:03:29,740 Here we're clipping right along at over 300 miles an hour, right on the treetop. 30 00:03:30,940 --> 00:03:32,540 I'm right on the tail of it. 31 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:39,000 As we got closer, I said, it doesn't have a tail. It doesn't have any wings. 32 00:03:42,030 --> 00:03:45,330 Look at the shadow on the ground. The shadow was perfectly round. 33 00:03:46,950 --> 00:03:48,130 That's not an airplane. 34 00:03:51,030 --> 00:03:54,030 And I said, I'm overtaking it. So I said, hang on. 35 00:03:55,610 --> 00:03:57,170 So I'm going to make a hard turn. 36 00:03:58,110 --> 00:03:59,590 There it was, a disc. 37 00:04:00,990 --> 00:04:04,050 Going across the field with two big swirls. 38 00:04:05,770 --> 00:04:09,550 What I didn't see was any exhaust propulsion. 39 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:16,519 No rivet lines, a rounded edge about that size where it all came together. 40 00:04:17,779 --> 00:04:19,720 A true flying saucer. 41 00:04:22,740 --> 00:04:28,740 Then it seemed to vanish until they spotted it thousands of feet above them. 42 00:04:28,940 --> 00:04:31,920 Bright, yellow, sunnish -looking object. 43 00:04:33,580 --> 00:04:35,560 It went like a bat out of hell. 44 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:49,480 After they landed, the stunned witnesses were separately debriefed by Project 45 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:53,700 Blue Book, the Air Force investigation of the UFO phenomenon. 46 00:04:56,180 --> 00:05:01,100 Ironically, a little over a decade later, Colonel William T. Coleman became 47 00:05:01,100 --> 00:05:04,200 public spokesman for Project Blue Book. 48 00:05:09,100 --> 00:05:12,840 Probably what we saw may have been from somewhere else. 49 00:05:19,370 --> 00:05:26,050 Look, the Air Force is a very deadly being when it comes to intercepting an 50 00:05:26,050 --> 00:05:27,050 unknown. 51 00:05:28,450 --> 00:05:33,110 If it proves hostile, we're going to shoot it down. 52 00:05:34,130 --> 00:05:36,830 Other than that, no problem. 53 00:05:41,830 --> 00:05:46,490 In the late 1940s, America seemed impregnable to military threat. 54 00:05:47,500 --> 00:05:53,080 It had just emerged from World War II, Masters of the Air, the only nuclear 55 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:55,000 -armed superpower in the world. 56 00:05:55,720 --> 00:06:02,120 But in 1947, something appeared in the sky, and everything 57 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:03,120 changed. 58 00:06:04,100 --> 00:06:08,180 Every newscaster and every newspaper across the nation has made headlines out 59 00:06:08,180 --> 00:06:12,020 it. And this afternoon, we are honored indeed to have here in our studio this 60 00:06:12,020 --> 00:06:15,800 man, Kenneth Arnold, who we believe may be able to give us a first -hand account 61 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:17,840 and give you the same on what happened. 62 00:06:18,500 --> 00:06:21,580 I kept looking for their tails. They didn't have any tails. 63 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:26,820 I thought, well, maybe something's wrong with my eyes. They seem to flip and 64 00:06:26,820 --> 00:06:29,180 flash in the sun just like a mirror. 65 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:34,720 I'd be glad to confirm it with my hands on a Bible because I did see it. 66 00:06:35,020 --> 00:06:38,100 And whether it has anything to do with our army or our intelligence or whether 67 00:06:38,100 --> 00:06:40,160 it has to do with some foreign country, I don't know. 68 00:06:41,820 --> 00:06:46,060 Arnold had sent this sketch to the Air Force following his sighting. 69 00:06:46,540 --> 00:06:51,980 He was later invited to California's Hamilton Field Army Air Base, where he 70 00:06:51,980 --> 00:06:56,540 handed what he was told were authentic photos of a similar craft. 71 00:06:57,130 --> 00:07:01,270 At the request of Lieutenant Colonel Donald Springer, commanding officer of 72 00:07:01,270 --> 00:07:05,710 4th Air Force Intelligence, and was given the above prints as a courtesy for 73 00:07:05,710 --> 00:07:07,710 assistance he had given military intelligence. 74 00:07:08,990 --> 00:07:14,050 The photo was taken in Arizona just two weeks after his own encounter. 75 00:07:19,110 --> 00:07:24,250 They said that my father's sighting of flying saucers got more attention than 76 00:07:24,250 --> 00:07:25,690 the ending of World War II. 77 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:30,460 He was besieged by newspaper reporters from all over the world. 78 00:07:34,500 --> 00:07:39,880 Reporters interviewed United Airlines pilot E .J. Smith, who also flew the 79 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:40,880 Northwest route. 80 00:07:41,140 --> 00:07:47,200 He joked Arnold had likely been fooled by a cockpit reflection, until he, too, 81 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:49,840 became a witness a few weeks later. 82 00:07:50,990 --> 00:07:57,110 He and his stunned crew had watched as nine disks maneuvered in formation for a 83 00:07:57,110 --> 00:07:58,690 full 45 minutes. 84 00:07:59,390 --> 00:08:05,550 And from there it just exploded. The first few days in July of 1947 had a 85 00:08:05,550 --> 00:08:07,470 large level of exciting activity. 86 00:08:08,810 --> 00:08:14,690 These unknown objects barnstormed across the country, sometimes in fleet -like 87 00:08:14,690 --> 00:08:18,490 formations that looked like a deliberate show of force. 88 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:24,360 Hundreds of people told Air Force investigators they'd seen the saucers 89 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:25,360 their own eyes. 90 00:08:25,460 --> 00:08:28,720 Bright, shiny things that whished through the air at incredible speeds. 91 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:33,520 Even airline pilots who seldom indulge in fantasy reported sighting them. 92 00:08:33,799 --> 00:08:38,000 And Air Force flyers told of chasing them or something all over the sky. 93 00:08:38,539 --> 00:08:41,460 The Air Force called them unidentified flying objects. 94 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:46,140 But people went right on calling them saucers and seeing them. There was 95 00:08:46,140 --> 00:08:47,140 something in the air. 96 00:09:22,239 --> 00:09:28,740 But a then -secret memorandum by the same general suggested that the highest 97 00:09:28,740 --> 00:09:32,680 military echelons thought there was plenty to worry about. 98 00:09:34,860 --> 00:09:40,480 The memo states, quote, the phenomenon reported is something real and not 99 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:42,360 visionary or fictitious. 100 00:09:43,380 --> 00:09:49,980 It described metallic disks, circular in shape, with domes on top, often 101 00:09:49,980 --> 00:09:52,940 traveling in formations of three to nine craft. 102 00:09:53,380 --> 00:09:59,040 It also listed aerodynamic capabilities with disturbing implications for 103 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:02,300 national defense, extreme rates of climb. 104 00:10:02,940 --> 00:10:08,220 dazzling maneuverability, and a superior capacity for evasive action. 105 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:12,820 A lot of people expected that the United States government was about to confirm, 106 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:17,840 okay, they're ours. This is an exciting new technological advance that we were 107 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:19,920 testing, and now it's time to tell people about it. 108 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:25,400 Occasionally, eyewitness testimony included compelling photographic 109 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:34,660 Evelyn Trent was feeding her rabbits when she spotted a metallic disc -shaped 110 00:10:34,660 --> 00:10:37,020 object floating over their farm. 111 00:10:38,620 --> 00:10:43,820 She alerted her husband, Paul, to grab his camera, and he managed to get two 112 00:10:43,820 --> 00:10:44,820 shots. 113 00:10:55,980 --> 00:11:01,260 They described the object slowly hovering before it abruptly sped away. 114 00:11:02,180 --> 00:11:07,340 Life magazine picked up the story, and the McMinnville UFO became a global 115 00:11:07,340 --> 00:11:08,340 sensation. 116 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:10,600 There's no chance of this being weather. 117 00:11:10,820 --> 00:11:13,200 There's no chance of this being a star or an aircraft. 118 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:17,620 This is either some kind of structured object that we don't know what it is, or 119 00:11:17,620 --> 00:11:21,800 it's a hoax. Paul Trent and his wife, they were honest, simple. 120 00:11:22,300 --> 00:11:25,760 hardworking people who never made a dime off the photographs that they took. 121 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:31,340 They never tried to make a dime off of it. It just come up like that and tipped 122 00:11:31,340 --> 00:11:34,280 and just, I mean, really went. 123 00:11:35,300 --> 00:11:36,680 It went fast. 124 00:11:38,680 --> 00:11:41,900 I've never seen anything go so fast in my life as that thing went. 125 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:44,000 Yeah. 126 00:11:45,570 --> 00:11:51,730 In 1951, future astronaut Gordon Cooper, while training in Germany, chased a 127 00:11:51,730 --> 00:11:55,030 large formation with his squadron of fighter jets. 128 00:11:55,490 --> 00:11:59,810 Unlike fighters, they would stop, almost stop in their forward velocity and 129 00:11:59,810 --> 00:12:02,930 change 90 degrees sometimes in their flight path. 130 00:12:04,050 --> 00:12:08,410 And within the next two to three days, we'd had practically all the fighters we 131 00:12:08,410 --> 00:12:11,670 could muster on the base up climbing as high as they would climb with guys with 132 00:12:11,670 --> 00:12:14,150 binoculars in them still trying to spot these. 133 00:12:14,620 --> 00:12:16,320 Trains, devices flying overhead. 134 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:21,560 We never could get close enough really to pin them down, but they were round in 135 00:12:21,560 --> 00:12:23,260 shape and very metallic looking. 136 00:12:23,700 --> 00:12:28,120 And they would come over and do the same maneuvers that we make, except every 137 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:29,480 once in a while one of them goes to the hip. 138 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:32,860 And you just can't do that in a fighter. 139 00:12:41,020 --> 00:12:43,700 Like two saucers, one inverted over the other. 140 00:12:44,810 --> 00:12:47,550 They seemed to be made of some kind of polished metal. 141 00:12:48,210 --> 00:12:51,870 When I first saw the objects, they were almost overhead. 142 00:12:52,650 --> 00:12:55,750 By the time I had the camera ready to go, they had moved to a considerably 143 00:12:55,750 --> 00:12:56,750 greater distance. 144 00:12:59,070 --> 00:13:05,250 But the unknowns showed no signs of hostility, an otherworldly power on its 145 00:13:05,250 --> 00:13:06,650 mysterious mission. 146 00:13:19,180 --> 00:13:24,660 Commercial pilots William Nash and William Fortenberry, former Navy 147 00:13:24,660 --> 00:13:31,220 with thousands of hours of flight experience, saw eight huge disks fly in 148 00:13:31,220 --> 00:13:36,700 stack formation over Chesapeake Bay, Virginia, just a stone's throw from 149 00:13:36,700 --> 00:13:37,860 Washington, D .C. 150 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:42,160 When they came out over the blackness of the bay, they're distinct. 151 00:13:42,620 --> 00:13:44,580 Six red coins. 152 00:13:44,860 --> 00:13:47,040 When they got closer, we could see that... 153 00:13:47,500 --> 00:13:52,280 It looked like you were looking down into it, like a hot coal. 154 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:57,720 They reported the glowing red objects had approached them head -on at a speed 155 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:02,420 they estimated at 6 ,000 to 12 ,000 miles per hour. 156 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:04,980 It came in like this and went out like this. 157 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:12,660 There would be no way of making complete reversal or a 90 -degree turn 12 158 00:14:12,660 --> 00:14:14,460 ,000 miles an hour or greater. 159 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:18,100 without making the occupants juice on the wall. 160 00:14:18,940 --> 00:14:22,500 That kind of really shook us up. Looking at the thing shook us up. 161 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:29,040 Nothing could have gotten to that degree of scientific 162 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:34,300 progress without some of the intermediate steps having become public 163 00:14:34,540 --> 00:14:38,180 We just knew that they were not from this planet. 164 00:14:44,860 --> 00:14:46,060 The unthinkable happened. 165 00:14:46,340 --> 00:14:50,320 The nation's capital was invaded from the skies. 166 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:56,600 Seven unknown blips suddenly appeared on radar at Washington National Airport. 167 00:14:57,120 --> 00:15:02,580 Air traffic controllers at both Andrews and Bowling Air Force bases confirmed 168 00:15:02,580 --> 00:15:06,280 the objects as they danced through restricted airspace. 169 00:15:10,780 --> 00:15:14,300 Capitol building, the White House where the president lived. 170 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:18,580 These were some of the most important places in the country when it comes to 171 00:15:18,580 --> 00:15:19,580 national defense. 172 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:23,980 And there were UFOs violating this airspace, and there was nothing that the 173 00:15:23,980 --> 00:15:24,980 Force could do about it. 174 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:28,620 F -94 interceptors were scrambled. 175 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:35,000 Pentagon Press liaison Al Chopp was in the radar room that night. 176 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:40,120 We could see the planes coming in on this radar scope. In a minute, we saw 177 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:42,060 beginning of these guys. 178 00:15:42,940 --> 00:15:43,940 UFOs disappeared. 179 00:15:44,540 --> 00:15:45,540 They just left. 180 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:51,320 Obviously, whatever these things were, had intelligence enough to get out of 181 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:53,920 area when they had an intercept going in. 182 00:15:55,540 --> 00:15:59,000 But the next weekend, it began again. 183 00:15:59,940 --> 00:16:05,560 Pilot William Patterson pushed his Starfire jet to maximum speed to try to 184 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:07,520 intercept one of the glowing objects. 185 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:12,500 Flew right into the middle of the four of them. 186 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:18,200 Al Chop recalls the pilot's panicky air -to -ground transmission as he streaked 187 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:21,940 at 600 miles per hour into a group of unknowns. 188 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:26,880 He actually said they're closing in on me. 189 00:16:28,420 --> 00:16:29,720 What do I do? 190 00:16:32,420 --> 00:16:33,540 It was frightening. 191 00:16:35,460 --> 00:16:42,210 The Air Force had just issued orders to shoot down the unknowns if, quote, They 192 00:16:42,210 --> 00:16:43,670 can't talk them down. 193 00:16:45,130 --> 00:16:50,150 I was trying to tell an Air Force pilot to fire at the damn thing or anything. 194 00:16:50,510 --> 00:16:51,910 I didn't say anything. 195 00:16:52,190 --> 00:16:53,330 Nobody said anything. 196 00:16:54,870 --> 00:16:58,370 And then all of a sudden, things began to move away from him. 197 00:16:58,690 --> 00:17:00,230 And he said, they're gone. 198 00:17:02,290 --> 00:17:04,310 I'm convinced they're solid objects. 199 00:17:04,609 --> 00:17:09,849 I'm convinced that they're probably from another planet or from outer space 200 00:17:09,849 --> 00:17:10,849 somewhere. 201 00:17:11,020 --> 00:17:13,140 I've always felt that way since that night. 202 00:17:15,780 --> 00:17:20,900 The very next day, the Air Force's top brass hastily prepared the largest 203 00:17:20,900 --> 00:17:24,099 Pentagon press conference since World War II. 204 00:17:26,700 --> 00:17:32,340 Seen here in a last -minute huddle, General Roger Ramey, Air Force Director 205 00:17:32,340 --> 00:17:33,760 Operations at the Pentagon. 206 00:17:35,500 --> 00:17:38,760 Captain Edward Ruppelt of Project Blue Book. 207 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:43,880 the Air Force's official UFO investigations arm, and Director of Air 208 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:46,540 Intelligence, General John Sanford. 209 00:17:46,780 --> 00:17:53,240 Since 1947, we have received and analyzed between one and two thousand 210 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:56,660 that have come to us from all kinds of sources. 211 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:03,880 Of this great mass of reports, we have been able adequately to explain the 212 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:04,880 bulk of them. 213 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:10,360 However, there have been a certain percentage of this volume of reports 214 00:18:10,360 --> 00:18:15,400 have been made by credible observers of relatively incredible things. 215 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:22,520 We can say that the recent sightings are in no way connected with any secret 216 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:25,280 development by any department of the United States. 217 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:33,160 In the Q &A with reporters, Sanford suggested a 50 -50 chance it could have 218 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:36,720 radar waves bouncing off temperature inversions. 219 00:18:36,940 --> 00:18:43,180 The point that Sanford put across all too effectively was that they were not 220 00:18:43,180 --> 00:18:47,720 real. They were just tricks of the atmosphere. 221 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:52,720 And atmospheric phenomena can't be a threat to national security. 222 00:18:53,980 --> 00:18:55,700 You don't shoot at clouds. 223 00:18:59,880 --> 00:19:05,180 The public was pondering the implications of possible 224 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:10,680 Robert L. Farnsworth, president of the United States Rocket Society, urged 225 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:15,940 defense officials not to permit our planes to fire at any flying saucers. He 226 00:19:15,940 --> 00:19:20,420 says this might alienate mankind from beings of far superior forces. 227 00:19:20,900 --> 00:19:25,560 Farnsworth feels that friendly contact should be sought as long as possible. 228 00:19:28,910 --> 00:19:32,570 Behind the scenes, the CIA had other concerns. 229 00:19:34,030 --> 00:19:40,530 A secret internal memo urged immediate attention to unexplained objects in the 230 00:19:40,530 --> 00:19:43,430 vicinity of major U .S. defense installations. 231 00:19:44,370 --> 00:19:49,330 I would dare say if anything happened that we thought was a threat to our 232 00:19:49,330 --> 00:19:55,530 national security, somebody out there, one of the services, would respond to 233 00:20:04,460 --> 00:20:07,000 Remember, this is the height of the Cold War. 234 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:11,600 There are bombers on both sides loaded with nuclear bombs. 235 00:20:12,460 --> 00:20:17,680 Dr. Jacques Vallée was the inspiration for the French UFO researcher and Steven 236 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:20,840 Spielberg's close encounters of the third kind. 237 00:20:23,140 --> 00:20:26,980 In real life, Dr. 238 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:30,860 Vallée conducted sober scientific research on the phenomenon. 239 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:33,920 We know now that there is no simple answer. 240 00:20:34,360 --> 00:20:38,980 For decades, he met with witnesses and traveled the globe gathering evidence, 241 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:43,820 ultimately creating the first database on the UFO subject. 242 00:20:45,500 --> 00:20:50,500 Mr. Chairman, all the great nations of the world are represented on this 243 00:20:50,500 --> 00:20:55,000 committee. Let us keep in mind that the UFO phenomenon may represent an even 244 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:56,000 greater reality. 245 00:20:56,900 --> 00:21:01,860 Vallée also consulted with scientific, military, and government officials. 246 00:21:02,460 --> 00:21:06,480 including Project Blue Book's top science advisor, Dr. 247 00:21:06,700 --> 00:21:08,040 J. Allen Hynek. 248 00:21:10,360 --> 00:21:16,400 I began my work as scientific consultant to the United States Air Force as an 249 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:17,400 open skeptic. 250 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:22,900 Hynek was a university astronomer with a high security clearance when the Air 251 00:21:22,900 --> 00:21:26,360 Force recruited him to investigate UFOs. 252 00:21:27,370 --> 00:21:30,530 And it so happened when the Air Force got the job of trying to figure out what 253 00:21:30,530 --> 00:21:34,470 some of these strange flying saucer stories were about, well, they needed an 254 00:21:34,470 --> 00:21:38,910 astronomer to see how many of the reports could possibly be explained as 255 00:21:38,910 --> 00:21:40,230 and twinkling stars and planets. 256 00:21:40,850 --> 00:21:46,490 The two scientists became close colleagues, with Hynek entrusting Vallée 257 00:21:46,490 --> 00:21:51,290 index the reams of Blue Book files scattered throughout Hynek's home. 258 00:21:52,140 --> 00:21:58,160 It was there that Vallée made a chance discovery of a letter so secret he had 259 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:03,080 appeal to the chief counsel of the Senate Defense Appropriations Committee 260 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:04,460 get it declassified. 261 00:22:04,780 --> 00:22:06,800 That document changed my life. 262 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:12,420 It taught me that the subject had been taken much more seriously than anybody 263 00:22:12,420 --> 00:22:18,340 thought. The document revealed an ultra -secret, highly funded scientific 264 00:22:18,340 --> 00:22:19,360 investigation. 265 00:22:20,270 --> 00:22:25,430 working parallel to Blue Book, unknown to all but a select few. 266 00:22:28,030 --> 00:22:34,590 The letter was signed by H .C. Cross, director of exotic metallurgy at 267 00:22:34,590 --> 00:22:36,470 Battelle National Laboratories. 268 00:22:37,170 --> 00:22:43,050 These were the people who had analyzed the facts with a large budget, with 269 00:22:43,050 --> 00:22:46,970 highly competent physicists and computer scientists. 270 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:52,520 Who are these people? 271 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:54,840 What information did they have? 272 00:22:55,780 --> 00:22:58,780 Good evening. Tonight we go after a fantastic story. 273 00:22:58,980 --> 00:23:04,460 The story that flying saucers from other worlds are visiting our planet just as 274 00:23:04,460 --> 00:23:07,280 we are exploring outer space with our own rocket satellites. 275 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:13,380 Our guest is former Marine Air Corps Major Donald Kehoe in his campaign to 276 00:23:13,380 --> 00:23:15,000 that flying saucers exist. 277 00:23:15,700 --> 00:23:19,180 My name is Mike Wallace. The cigarette is Parliament. 278 00:23:20,010 --> 00:23:24,830 Why will the United States government withhold information from United States 279 00:23:24,830 --> 00:23:28,170 citizens? For what reason? The airport is simply treating the American people 280 00:23:28,170 --> 00:23:30,230 like children. They don't trust them with the facts. 281 00:23:35,850 --> 00:23:40,690 During the 50s and 60s, it wasn't just the Americans who were seeing flying 282 00:23:40,690 --> 00:23:46,490 saucers. At the Westall School in Australia, Several hundred students saw 283 00:23:46,490 --> 00:23:52,050 object hovering over this power line tower on their athletic field, an event 284 00:23:52,050 --> 00:23:55,050 they vividly recall 50 years later. 285 00:23:55,450 --> 00:23:59,490 A student came into the classroom, you know, there's flying saucers in the 286 00:23:59,630 --> 00:24:01,870 there's flying saucers. And everybody ran out. 287 00:24:02,750 --> 00:24:07,350 And I remember the fear and the hysteria of all the students. I couldn't believe 288 00:24:07,350 --> 00:24:10,930 it because what I was seeing wasn't possible. 289 00:24:11,210 --> 00:24:12,870 It was vertical, horizontal. 290 00:24:13,790 --> 00:24:17,590 move away from us, back towards us, appear somewhere else, somewhere else. 291 00:24:18,150 --> 00:24:21,010 My God, you know, but it was exciting. 292 00:24:22,090 --> 00:24:26,850 It was like that and then all of a sudden it just turned on its side and I 293 00:24:26,850 --> 00:24:28,230 see that it was a round disc. 294 00:24:29,950 --> 00:24:35,310 The children saw the disc begin to descend into this wooded reserve at the 295 00:24:35,310 --> 00:24:36,630 of the school's running path. 296 00:24:37,250 --> 00:24:40,390 I ran towards the corner of the school, jumped the fence. 297 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:44,900 and ran towards where it looked as though it went down into the tree and 298 00:24:44,900 --> 00:24:47,660 stopped dead because it was right in front of me on the ground. 299 00:24:49,120 --> 00:24:54,520 Like a disc with a slight rise in the middle, I also heard a low sort of a 300 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,320 humming noise and I felt a bit of a heat coming off it as well. 301 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:08,360 And... It started to take off pretty well straight away. It had all bluey 302 00:25:08,360 --> 00:25:11,940 -purple lights around the bottom. I don't remember seeing any windows. 303 00:25:12,260 --> 00:25:16,180 And it took off to about probably four or five metres in the air and then 304 00:25:16,180 --> 00:25:22,540 on its side and just went, zoom, straight up so fast that there's just 305 00:25:22,580 --> 00:25:24,980 even nowadays, that could go that fast. 306 00:25:27,020 --> 00:25:32,140 Shortly after the object departed, the authorities converged on the school. 307 00:25:32,750 --> 00:25:39,690 We had army, air force, police down there cordoning off the area to prevent 308 00:25:39,690 --> 00:25:42,010 of us entering the area or disturbing anything. 309 00:25:42,450 --> 00:25:47,350 We got called to assembly. The headmaster said, you have not seen this. 310 00:25:47,350 --> 00:25:49,670 not talk about it. You'll be in trouble if you do. 311 00:25:50,930 --> 00:25:56,770 For the first time ever, the school science teacher agreed to describe what 312 00:25:56,770 --> 00:26:00,630 saw that day, providing we concealed his identity. 313 00:26:00,870 --> 00:26:02,070 It was not a mirage. 314 00:26:02,750 --> 00:26:08,070 There was something physical in the sky. It was silver. It could hover. 315 00:26:08,270 --> 00:26:09,670 It could move slowly. 316 00:26:09,890 --> 00:26:11,510 It could move very rapidly. 317 00:26:12,170 --> 00:26:16,870 Eventually, it moved away to the other side of the oval and down behind some 318 00:26:16,870 --> 00:26:17,870 pine trees. 319 00:26:17,990 --> 00:26:24,950 I was not then nor ever have been able to use my knowledge of the world nor 320 00:26:24,950 --> 00:26:29,030 my scientific training to provide a rational explanation. 321 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:35,600 What he said next sheds light on why the school's staff have remained silent all 322 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:36,600 these years. 323 00:26:36,700 --> 00:26:42,520 I was a knock on the door one night. Two older men, one in uniform, asked for my 324 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:43,860 description of what I'd seen. 325 00:26:44,180 --> 00:26:49,700 I was then told that I hadn't seen anything, that I'd made it all up, 326 00:26:49,700 --> 00:26:53,780 because I was drunk, and that they would have to report that back to the 327 00:26:53,780 --> 00:26:58,480 education department and I would lose my job. After that, I was told... 328 00:26:58,890 --> 00:27:04,290 that I would be prosecuted under the Official Secrets Act, and I was told 329 00:27:04,290 --> 00:27:09,250 there wasn't anything there when I knew there was, and that I had to keep quiet 330 00:27:09,250 --> 00:27:10,250 about it. 331 00:27:13,490 --> 00:27:15,230 Why did I have to keep quiet? 332 00:27:17,810 --> 00:27:21,210 The Westall landing may not have been an isolated incident. 333 00:27:21,950 --> 00:27:28,150 Four days prior... A then -young engineer in nearby Baldwin was taking 334 00:27:28,150 --> 00:27:32,250 his mother's garden when something caught his eye. This tremendous flash of 335 00:27:32,250 --> 00:27:37,990 light, and I looked up, and I saw this object, and I pulled it. I had a 336 00:27:37,990 --> 00:27:43,210 camera, and I pulled this up and hit myself on the face, and I took the 337 00:27:43,270 --> 00:27:45,990 and I took the photograph here. This is the original Polaroid. 338 00:27:46,470 --> 00:27:47,129 That's it. 339 00:27:47,130 --> 00:27:48,150 This is how bad it is. 340 00:27:56,780 --> 00:28:00,100 It looked like it was made out of some form of metal and it was engineered. 341 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,600 And being an engineer, I was sure it was. 342 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:09,160 And that's when I took the photograph and it tipped around and I could see the 343 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,360 bottom and it looked like it was rotating to me. 344 00:28:12,700 --> 00:28:18,440 That was it. And then after that, it sort of gave a bounce and it rocketed 345 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:19,920 to the north at very high speed. 346 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:21,900 Can you describe the acceleration? 347 00:28:23,050 --> 00:28:26,350 It was like almost instantaneous, like it had been shot out of a gun. 348 00:28:27,070 --> 00:28:28,070 Wham, you know. 349 00:28:29,830 --> 00:28:35,290 Air Force officers showed up at his doorstep, asking for every detail of his 350 00:28:35,290 --> 00:28:41,990 experience. And they also had some photographs of similar things, and they 351 00:28:41,990 --> 00:28:48,210 had a book which had pictures of things in which they didn't leave with me, but 352 00:28:48,210 --> 00:28:49,430 at least I had a look through. 353 00:28:51,770 --> 00:28:55,410 They said it was an unidentified flying object. 354 00:28:56,150 --> 00:28:57,290 That was it. 355 00:28:58,070 --> 00:28:59,450 What was the implication? 356 00:29:00,410 --> 00:29:03,570 That it didn't come from anywhere on Earth. 357 00:29:07,030 --> 00:29:11,850 Project Blue Book, with a skeletal staff, continued publicly collecting 358 00:29:11,850 --> 00:29:13,470 thousands of cases. 359 00:29:14,050 --> 00:29:19,670 Despite efforts to explain them away, hundreds were still filed as unknown. 360 00:29:20,940 --> 00:29:26,840 Several reports of a strange egg -shaped object about 200 feet long landing on 361 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:30,260 farms and highways last night in the vicinity of Level Land. 362 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:36,020 Sheriff Glenn says he even himself got a glimpse of the thing which somehow 363 00:29:36,020 --> 00:29:39,320 turned off lights and auto engines when it came near. 364 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:53,320 Within 24 to 36 hours after these sightings in Leveland, Texas, at the 365 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:57,000 Sands Proving Ground, very close to the Trinity test site where they first 366 00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:02,680 detonated the first atomic bomb, military personnel witnessed a glowing 367 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:04,680 -shaped object that apparently landed. 368 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:11,520 This is Bill Haggard, public information officer of White Sands Proving Ground 369 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:12,520 in Mexico. 370 00:30:13,380 --> 00:30:14,820 What they saw... 371 00:30:15,530 --> 00:30:20,070 Looks like a landing and takeoff of some controlled objects of outer space. 372 00:30:39,210 --> 00:30:43,490 Well, I was chasing a car up Bark Street. It was reckless driving. 373 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:51,400 I saw this big cloud of smoke, so I decided to let go of the car and go up 374 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:52,400 and investigate. 375 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:57,440 By the time I got there, I could see a big white object sitting in the arroyo. 376 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,180 I couldn't tell what it was at first. 377 00:31:06,340 --> 00:31:09,060 My radio was dead. It didn't work at all. 378 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:15,000 I could see some figures. 379 00:31:17,420 --> 00:31:20,080 Looked like they were walking around the craft there. 380 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:27,320 They appeared to be dressed in white coveralls and were childlike, that is, 381 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:28,360 small. 382 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:37,440 Zamora added that one of the two persons turned his head and looked straight at 383 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:38,440 him. 384 00:31:42,540 --> 00:31:46,700 When I got out of the car, about 50 feet from it, 385 00:31:49,260 --> 00:31:53,260 I guess they saw me because they started their motor, whatever it is. 386 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,780 I could see a big blast of fire coming from right under it. 387 00:31:59,700 --> 00:32:02,540 So I was behind some bushes there, behind my car. 388 00:32:02,900 --> 00:32:04,760 I could see it, and I could feel that heat. 389 00:32:07,100 --> 00:32:09,900 That really got me scared, you know. 390 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:13,380 A lot of people say, why don't you take your gun out and shoot at it, you know. 391 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,460 That wouldn't do nothing to me, so. 392 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,420 It just took a little while to get airborne. 393 00:32:20,860 --> 00:32:24,720 Came up a little bit, about 20, 30 feet, and it stayed there a little while. 394 00:32:30,380 --> 00:32:32,980 And it stayed just as quiet as it could be. 395 00:32:35,820 --> 00:32:38,880 And then just flew away, that's it. 396 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:52,180 Lonnie was very, very scared. He was as white as a sheet. From here, went 397 00:32:52,180 --> 00:32:54,740 directly to the church to talk to the priest, okay? 398 00:32:55,020 --> 00:32:59,600 Pablo Lopez was among the first to arrive at the landing and takeoff site. 399 00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:03,980 The ground was still smoldering, some of the weeds that were around it. This 400 00:33:03,980 --> 00:33:08,420 rare footage gives us a glimpse of the scene shortly after the incident. 401 00:33:09,580 --> 00:33:14,120 Patrolman Zamora stoops to point out one of the landing gear imprints where 402 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:18,380 officers had just placed rocks to protect the fresh ground traces. 403 00:33:19,460 --> 00:33:24,620 And then there was a set, two sets of footprints, two sets of footprints like 404 00:33:24,620 --> 00:33:25,620 so. 405 00:33:26,100 --> 00:33:28,500 That was about the approximate size of them. 406 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,520 In comparison to a quarter, that's pretty small. 407 00:33:32,580 --> 00:33:34,020 That's about the size of them. 408 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:41,860 Within an hour and over the next several days, officials from the FBI, military, 409 00:33:41,980 --> 00:33:45,900 and Project Blue Book documented the evidence at the scene. 410 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:57,100 Were there any prong marks on the ground or anything like that where you could 411 00:33:57,100 --> 00:33:58,100 see where it had landed? 412 00:33:58,180 --> 00:33:59,180 There were four. 413 00:34:01,219 --> 00:34:02,540 Very unusual footprints. 414 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,980 How many were there? Two footprints on one side and two footprints on the other 415 00:34:05,980 --> 00:34:06,980 side. 416 00:34:12,580 --> 00:34:16,000 Of course, the burn area there. I was behind my car. 417 00:34:16,340 --> 00:34:18,199 I could see it and I could feel that heat. 418 00:34:21,159 --> 00:34:25,440 They told me that all over the state they had been seeing some of those 419 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:26,620 saucers, whatever you call them. 420 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,719 They gave me a book on that, you know. 421 00:34:30,429 --> 00:34:31,949 They told me to go ahead and read it. 422 00:34:32,770 --> 00:34:34,929 Well, it says not to say nothing. 423 00:34:35,770 --> 00:34:38,030 Keep away from it. Don't say too much, you know. 424 00:34:38,989 --> 00:34:42,190 It was the middle of the night by the time Lonnie came home. 425 00:34:43,389 --> 00:34:45,150 Oh, he was real pale. 426 00:34:46,710 --> 00:34:49,449 And I thought he was sick. I said, are you sick or something? 427 00:34:49,650 --> 00:34:54,790 He said, no. He said, I was just working. He was like, like he was angry. 428 00:34:57,230 --> 00:35:00,630 What I knew about it was when I started reading the papers, you know. 429 00:35:02,210 --> 00:35:04,510 Started coming out and coming out and everything. 430 00:35:04,730 --> 00:35:06,270 They said, well, what's this that you saw? 431 00:35:06,490 --> 00:35:08,610 I don't know. He said, it's just a headache. 432 00:35:10,690 --> 00:35:15,370 He said, everybody's after me and some believe me and some don't. 433 00:35:17,130 --> 00:35:18,009 Dear Mr. 434 00:35:18,010 --> 00:35:19,330 Zamora. Dear Mr. 435 00:35:19,870 --> 00:35:20,870 Zamora. 436 00:35:27,790 --> 00:35:32,370 I saw a UFO myself in the summer of 1928. I can go on for a week telling you 437 00:35:32,370 --> 00:35:37,930 what I've seen. A boy in a school science fair had three pictures that 438 00:35:37,930 --> 00:35:41,470 just like the flying saucer. I thought I should write to you to tell you that 439 00:35:41,470 --> 00:35:44,230 you are not alone in your sighting of this object. 440 00:35:44,450 --> 00:35:48,630 I have pictures of a couple of egg -shaped ships taken. I read about you 441 00:35:48,630 --> 00:35:51,530 a flying saucer. I'm a retired teacher. Well, you have a friend who believes in 442 00:35:51,530 --> 00:35:55,570 you. The saucer phenomenon has changed my life and ideas. Mama said when it 443 00:35:55,570 --> 00:35:56,570 took... 444 00:36:06,270 --> 00:36:12,950 And then people started making fun of him that he had seen 445 00:36:12,950 --> 00:36:18,850 little men from outer space and this and that and all this dirty 446 00:36:18,850 --> 00:36:20,050 stuff. 447 00:36:22,750 --> 00:36:26,070 A lot of people ask me, is that the reason you quit the police force? 448 00:36:26,610 --> 00:36:30,070 The reason I quit the police force is because I was going into, you know, a 449 00:36:30,070 --> 00:36:33,130 of publicity and stuff like that, and I didn't want to hurt the town. 450 00:36:37,050 --> 00:36:40,510 The level of inquiry went all the way to the office of the president. 451 00:36:42,530 --> 00:36:47,810 To this day, the Socorro close encounter remains unexplained. 452 00:36:50,290 --> 00:36:54,210 Socorro was very similar to the French cases that I had. 453 00:36:54,620 --> 00:37:00,100 brought to Heineck's attention, checked by the police, checked by the French Air 454 00:37:00,100 --> 00:37:06,660 Force, where there were also occupants who were seen, short beings 455 00:37:06,660 --> 00:37:08,900 in connection with the objects. 456 00:37:12,140 --> 00:37:18,160 I think that's what convinced him that there were UFO landings in the United 457 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:19,160 States. 458 00:37:28,590 --> 00:37:32,010 It looked like a toy top, somewhat upside down. 459 00:37:33,010 --> 00:37:38,130 So this is the diagram in which we've come up with. It's more flat here other 460 00:37:38,130 --> 00:37:41,030 than round, but it does have the hump up in here. 461 00:37:41,290 --> 00:37:43,710 It seemed to move off the ground if it was down. 462 00:37:43,970 --> 00:37:47,330 And then we saw three lights that went from yellow to red. 463 00:37:47,670 --> 00:37:49,630 When we got right up to it, it lit up. 464 00:37:49,910 --> 00:37:54,350 I mean, it really come bright, and we could see it, the outline of it real 465 00:37:55,760 --> 00:38:01,320 Blue Book's Dr. Alan Hynek investigated one of the alleged landing sites with 466 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:02,320 the local sheriff. 467 00:38:03,300 --> 00:38:09,840 At an overflow press conference later that day, the world held its breath for 468 00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:13,060 historic revelation about the landings in Michigan. 469 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:20,320 Hynek, by now privately convinced of the UFO reality, struggled to follow the 470 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:24,320 Air Force policy of tamping down public excitement. 471 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,560 Are you saying that the sightings in the Ann Arbor and Hillsdale areas 472 00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:33,580 definitely were caused by marsh gasses? I'm saying that the two cases that I 473 00:38:33,580 --> 00:38:38,820 investigated most deeply were most likely. I said in a statement that I 474 00:38:38,820 --> 00:38:40,240 prove it in a court of law. 475 00:38:40,720 --> 00:38:43,460 Are you saying then that you don't know what caused it? 476 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:48,440 No, that's not quite right. I think that a person can be pretty sure about 477 00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,080 something without being... 478 00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,660 able to convict somebody of a murder. Can you say that? 479 00:38:53,060 --> 00:38:57,520 Yes, I do, honestly, in this case, in this case. 480 00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,180 But you can't say without question that this is what happened. 481 00:39:00,660 --> 00:39:07,160 Hynek's strained explanation, which he later called his greatest regret, 482 00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:08,460 a public furor. 483 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:13,660 Mr. Ford, what about flying saucers? You've had some in Michigan the past 484 00:39:13,940 --> 00:39:19,180 Dave, we've had several incidents that many felt were... 485 00:39:19,980 --> 00:39:25,900 sufficient to justify some action by our government and not the kind of flippant 486 00:39:25,900 --> 00:39:31,920 answer that was given by the Air Force where they passed it off as a swamp gas. 487 00:39:32,460 --> 00:39:39,280 It seems to me that this mystery does require that the Congress take a good 488 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,480 look at it. Let them put their record on the line. 489 00:39:43,740 --> 00:39:45,840 On April 5th, 1966. 490 00:39:46,830 --> 00:39:51,690 Congressional hearings were held with Dr. Hynek and Secretary of the Air Force 491 00:39:51,690 --> 00:39:54,190 Harold Brown both giving testimony. 492 00:39:57,490 --> 00:40:02,730 Mr. Ford has come out. He has a pretty good -sized stature in the Congress. 493 00:40:03,070 --> 00:40:08,890 And so, Mr. Secretary, see if you can shed some light on these highly 494 00:40:08,890 --> 00:40:10,250 illuminated objects. 495 00:40:12,490 --> 00:40:16,330 Mr. Secretary, there have been charges that the Air Force is hiding something 496 00:40:16,330 --> 00:40:17,330 the UFO field. 497 00:40:17,630 --> 00:40:20,170 We have not been hiding anything. 498 00:40:20,510 --> 00:40:25,670 The investigations have been made public. The hearing this morning was 499 00:40:25,670 --> 00:40:26,710 for just that reason. 500 00:40:27,010 --> 00:40:32,310 There has never been any evidence presented to the United States Air Force 501 00:40:32,310 --> 00:40:36,510 discovered by the United States Air Force which would indicate that the UFO 502 00:40:36,510 --> 00:40:41,770 phenomenon represents any interplanetary space vehicle of any kind. 503 00:40:44,910 --> 00:40:49,370 Amid growing pressure, the Air Force commissioned an outside panel of 504 00:40:49,370 --> 00:40:54,810 to analyze select cases and settle the matter once and for all. 505 00:40:55,310 --> 00:41:01,070 It was headed by physicist Edward Condon. Dr. Condon, do you hope to find 506 00:41:01,070 --> 00:41:03,550 from outer space here on Earth? 507 00:41:03,990 --> 00:41:08,530 Well, I don't know for sure, but we'll try to just study the reports and get as 508 00:41:08,530 --> 00:41:11,230 much additional information as we can to see. 509 00:41:11,740 --> 00:41:16,040 Would you like to have us being visited by these little or big things? 510 00:41:16,420 --> 00:41:19,520 Well, that'd be fine with me, if I hope they're friendly. 511 00:41:19,860 --> 00:41:24,120 How do you propose to go about... After the project was launched, Condon 512 00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:29,360 remarked to an audience that he thought the UFO subject was nonsense, but, 513 00:41:29,380 --> 00:41:33,680 quote, I'm not supposed to reach that conclusion for another year. 514 00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:43,030 After a two -year investigation... the panel submitted a massive 1 ,400 -page 515 00:41:43,030 --> 00:41:49,270 report showing that many cases were radar and weather anomalies, but 516 00:41:49,270 --> 00:41:51,850 a number as truly unexplainable. 517 00:41:52,530 --> 00:41:59,350 Among them were the famous McMinnville photos taken on the Trent family farm, 518 00:41:59,350 --> 00:42:02,870 well as film footage of UFOs in Great Falls, Montana. 519 00:42:04,490 --> 00:42:09,250 As I looked up, I saw two silvery objects moving swiftly out of the 520 00:42:09,870 --> 00:42:13,590 No sound, except I thought I heard a whooshing sound when I first saw them. 521 00:42:13,930 --> 00:42:18,050 The discs appeared to be spinning like a top and were about 50 feet across, 522 00:42:18,230 --> 00:42:22,010 which was much slower than the jets which shot by shortly after I filmed the 523 00:42:22,010 --> 00:42:23,010 discs. 524 00:42:23,090 --> 00:42:27,230 I could not see any exhaust, wings, or any kind of fuselage. 525 00:42:27,470 --> 00:42:31,170 They appeared to be of a bright, shiny metal, like polished silver. 526 00:42:34,470 --> 00:42:37,410 There are cases that are... 527 00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:39,640 not explainable in conventional terms. 528 00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:45,340 There is the assumption of intelligence or intelligent control, but not 529 00:42:45,340 --> 00:42:48,820 necessarily the assumption of direct communication. 530 00:42:49,300 --> 00:42:50,600 Why are they here? 531 00:42:51,340 --> 00:42:52,560 What are they doing? 532 00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,640 What do they want from us? What are their motivations? 533 00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:00,680 But it was Dr. Condon who wrote the final word. 534 00:43:01,420 --> 00:43:07,780 There appears to be no verified and fully satisfactory evidence of any case 535 00:43:07,780 --> 00:43:12,840 is clearly outside the framework of presently known science and technology. 536 00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:20,580 I would kind of wallow on that one. You'd have to conclude that what we were 537 00:43:20,580 --> 00:43:24,260 looking at was beyond our current state of the knowledge. 538 00:43:25,110 --> 00:43:29,890 But it began to hit me that Dr. Condon has apparently not read his own material 539 00:43:29,890 --> 00:43:33,370 very carefully. You do an actual tabulation, which he doesn't seem to 540 00:43:33,450 --> 00:43:36,950 and you find his percentage of unexplained is five to six times larger 541 00:43:36,950 --> 00:43:40,270 Air Force. And yet, what is his principal recommendation? The principal 542 00:43:40,270 --> 00:43:43,510 recommendation that Dr. Condon has come through with is there's nothing of 543 00:43:43,510 --> 00:43:46,590 scientific interest that warrants further attention on the part of the 544 00:43:46,590 --> 00:43:50,510 government here in any major way. He recommends dropping the whole problem. 545 00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:57,380 Nobody could get funded. Nobody would look at the data seriously because of 546 00:43:57,380 --> 00:44:03,200 prestige of the academy saying that the problem had been solved. The Air Force 547 00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:09,220 closed their reporting system so that if the public wanted to report something, 548 00:44:09,460 --> 00:44:13,520 they would report it to the local police, that it would never get to the 549 00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:17,620 attention of scientists really examining the phenomenon. 550 00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:25,860 In 1969, the Air Force officially ended its public investigations. 551 00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:30,140 Which would suggest what? 552 00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:32,820 That they knew what it was? 553 00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:36,360 Or didn't know what it was. 554 00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:40,620 Also, the other way, that they did know what it was. 555 00:45:05,070 --> 00:45:09,470 One aspect of the phenomenon that was swept under the rug was the pervasive 556 00:45:09,470 --> 00:45:15,250 reporting of UFO intrusions at the world's most sensitive military 557 00:45:16,450 --> 00:45:22,510 Details did not come to light until decades later at the National Press Club 558 00:45:22,510 --> 00:45:23,670 Washington, D .C. 559 00:45:25,740 --> 00:45:30,980 Declassified U .S. government documents and witness testimony from former or 560 00:45:30,980 --> 00:45:37,820 retired U .S. military personnel confirm beyond any doubt the reality of ongoing 561 00:45:37,820 --> 00:45:41,460 UFO incursions at nuclear weapons sites. 562 00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,340 What you have heard here today is evidence of a phenomenon. 563 00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,620 It sounds fantastic and it is fantastic. 564 00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:52,340 In 1967, I was a missile launch officer. 565 00:45:52,910 --> 00:45:54,830 stationed at Malmstrom Air Force Base, Montana. 566 00:45:55,570 --> 00:45:59,570 Malmstrom was America's first line of nuclear defense. 567 00:45:59,950 --> 00:46:06,190 Its silos packed with Minutemen missiles, each one nearly 100 times more 568 00:46:06,190 --> 00:46:09,170 powerful than the bomb that devastated Hiroshima. 569 00:46:10,510 --> 00:46:16,790 Launch officers could, within minutes of confirmation, send their birds arcing 6 570 00:46:16,790 --> 00:46:20,650 ,000 miles to incinerate key Soviet cities. 571 00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,780 triggering a war that would end our civilization. 572 00:46:38,980 --> 00:46:41,500 I was the chief of party. I was the observer. 573 00:46:41,980 --> 00:46:47,160 Basically, what I was doing was the star observation to provide precise latitude 574 00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:50,080 and longitude on our small three -man team. 575 00:46:51,050 --> 00:46:53,850 came from the north and stopped right over us. 576 00:46:54,810 --> 00:47:01,630 And it had a white light from the center looking down into the silo. I just said 577 00:47:01,630 --> 00:47:06,010 to myself, what if this thing beams us up and takes us off to some distant 578 00:47:06,010 --> 00:47:09,350 and never returned to Earth again? I mean, this is going through my head here 579 00:47:09,350 --> 00:47:10,510 while this thing is above me. 580 00:47:11,330 --> 00:47:17,250 And then from this dead stop, it shoots off to the east, just like now you see 581 00:47:17,250 --> 00:47:18,250 it, now you don't. 582 00:47:23,210 --> 00:47:26,350 that went out and claimed that they saw something. How did they describe that? 583 00:47:26,450 --> 00:47:27,810 He just said a large round object. 584 00:47:28,050 --> 00:47:29,970 Directly over the LF? Directly over the site. 585 00:47:36,910 --> 00:47:42,090 Lieutenant Salas was stationed in his underground launch control capsule when 586 00:47:42,090 --> 00:47:45,690 received a frantic call from one of his topside guards. 587 00:47:46,030 --> 00:47:51,510 Screaming into the phone saying they're looking, a red glowing object hovering. 588 00:47:52,250 --> 00:47:56,750 just above our front gate. Our missiles began going into what's called a no -go 589 00:47:56,750 --> 00:47:58,950 condition or unlaunchable. 590 00:47:59,530 --> 00:48:00,750 Essentially, they were disabled. 591 00:48:03,490 --> 00:48:10,430 In fact, ten missiles began going offline in a matter of seconds, one 592 00:48:10,430 --> 00:48:11,430 other. 593 00:48:14,130 --> 00:48:17,790 Personally, I'm never aware of any two missiles going down at the same time, 594 00:48:17,790 --> 00:48:18,790 alone ten. 595 00:48:18,940 --> 00:48:22,220 I was a top secret control officer and I passed out nuclear launch 596 00:48:22,220 --> 00:48:23,220 authenticators. 597 00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:28,340 I can clearly recall a message coming through my communications center which 598 00:48:28,340 --> 00:48:34,300 basically said that a UFO did in fact shut down several missile silos in 599 00:48:34,300 --> 00:48:35,300 Montana. 600 00:48:40,900 --> 00:48:45,520 I was on duty at Echo, which is our squadron command post. We had strike 601 00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:46,660 respond to... 602 00:48:47,070 --> 00:48:49,550 alarms from the missiles. They were three to five miles away. 603 00:48:49,810 --> 00:48:53,570 And they said, sir, lack of a better description, there's a flying saucer 604 00:48:53,570 --> 00:48:57,810 hovering over that missile and there's a beam of reddish light going down to it. 605 00:48:59,450 --> 00:49:02,750 It had to be a data collection thing. I'm sure they scanned the warhead or 606 00:49:02,750 --> 00:49:03,750 something. 607 00:49:08,170 --> 00:49:12,890 In 1980, I was reassigned from the Pentagon to RAF Bentwaters as a deputy 608 00:49:12,890 --> 00:49:13,890 commander. 609 00:49:13,950 --> 00:49:17,010 At that time, Bentwaters was one of the largest tactical fighter planes in the 610 00:49:17,010 --> 00:49:18,010 world. 611 00:49:18,210 --> 00:49:23,830 It was also the largest American nuclear bomb storage depot in Europe. 612 00:49:24,070 --> 00:49:28,510 In December 1980, early in the morning, several of our security policemen 613 00:49:28,510 --> 00:49:30,470 discovered strange lights in the forest. 614 00:49:31,050 --> 00:49:36,030 Expecting to find a crashed aircraft, they came upon an unrecognizable object 615 00:49:36,030 --> 00:49:38,150 resting on the forest floor. 616 00:49:39,170 --> 00:49:42,250 They observed it for a period of time, and it very... 617 00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:44,480 quickly and silently vanished. 618 00:49:49,180 --> 00:49:54,140 Two nights later, Colonel Halt received an urgent visit from the base security 619 00:49:54,140 --> 00:49:55,140 commander. 620 00:49:55,700 --> 00:49:57,080 He was white as a sheet. 621 00:49:57,620 --> 00:49:58,740 He said, it's back. 622 00:49:59,180 --> 00:50:00,440 He said, what's back? 623 00:50:00,720 --> 00:50:01,720 He said, the UFO. 624 00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:07,760 I took several security policemen with me. I also had my small cassette 625 00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:09,600 I carried everywhere when I was on duty. 626 00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:10,960 What is it? 627 00:50:23,660 --> 00:50:26,360 One object approached us in very high speed. 628 00:50:29,300 --> 00:50:29,820 We 629 00:50:29,820 --> 00:50:36,780 stood there 630 00:50:36,780 --> 00:50:37,678 in awe. 631 00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:38,680 Was this a warning? 632 00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:40,720 Was this an attempt to communicate? 633 00:50:41,740 --> 00:50:44,240 Was this a weapon or just a probe? 634 00:50:44,900 --> 00:50:48,200 Just as suddenly as it appeared, click, it disappeared. 635 00:50:49,060 --> 00:50:50,400 We stood there, ah. 636 00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:55,720 About that time, we noticed the other object to the south was Cendidon beams, 637 00:50:55,900 --> 00:50:59,500 about a mile, mile and a half away over Woodbridge Base, and we had great 638 00:50:59,500 --> 00:51:03,260 difficulties communicating, but we were able to discern that some of those beams 639 00:51:03,260 --> 00:51:06,520 were either falling into or near the weapons storage area, and there was a 640 00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:07,520 deal of concern. 641 00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:13,720 I also found out later that both the tower operators at Bentwaters saw an 642 00:51:13,720 --> 00:51:16,680 and picked it up on their Bright 2 radar and watched it. 643 00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:22,660 I was just sitting there, and I happened to see a dot come on the scope, and it 644 00:51:22,660 --> 00:51:27,340 just went like one dot at the beginning, then another dot, another dot, and it 645 00:51:27,340 --> 00:51:31,140 was gone. And then it made the immediate right -hand turn and came right towards 646 00:51:31,140 --> 00:51:33,240 the base. Just absolutely phenomenal. 647 00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:36,620 It's not like any radar target I've ever seen. 648 00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:40,160 traveling at an extremely high rate of speed. 649 00:51:40,380 --> 00:51:44,720 It passed over the control tower, and then it stopped. 650 00:51:45,100 --> 00:51:49,860 It was an orangish color, sort of popped into my mind at the time that 651 00:51:49,860 --> 00:51:56,320 somebody's flying a basketball out here. There were lights around the center of 652 00:51:56,320 --> 00:52:00,600 it. It was more like portholes, and then you were seeing the light from the 653 00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:05,260 inside, but it hovered momentarily, reversed its course. 654 00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:07,960 and went back out at a high rate. 655 00:52:11,420 --> 00:52:16,500 Even more alarming incidents took place on both sides of the Cold War. 656 00:52:18,740 --> 00:52:25,700 According to one secret Soviet documents, a UFO hovered over a 657 00:52:25,700 --> 00:52:28,420 nuclear base for nearly an hour. 658 00:52:29,580 --> 00:52:35,200 Inexplicably. Several missiles suddenly switched to full combat readiness and 659 00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:39,300 began a launch sequence without any authentication codes. 660 00:52:40,100 --> 00:52:46,380 After 15 heart -stopping seconds, the countdown to a potential Armageddon 661 00:52:46,380 --> 00:52:49,000 as abruptly as it had started. 662 00:52:50,620 --> 00:52:55,260 As this object passed over the missile site, we would start getting erratic 663 00:52:55,260 --> 00:52:56,640 indications on that missile. 664 00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:59,460 The bad thing was we also got a launch indicator. 665 00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:04,340 Does that mean that the launch sequence has been triggered? That means that the 666 00:53:04,340 --> 00:53:06,000 missile has received a launch signal. 667 00:53:06,460 --> 00:53:09,860 The countdown had to be manually aborted. 668 00:53:11,220 --> 00:53:17,820 These witnesses are some of the most highly vetted military officers in 669 00:53:17,820 --> 00:53:20,360 of the world's most devastating armaments. 670 00:53:21,460 --> 00:53:26,380 If what they're reporting is accurate, then the pattern is hard to avoid. 671 00:53:28,370 --> 00:53:33,670 UFOs have been making incursions into top security nuclear facilities decade 672 00:53:33,670 --> 00:53:35,030 after decade. 673 00:53:36,310 --> 00:53:40,230 To me, it's pretty clear. This is just, we're shining a light on this. We're 674 00:53:40,230 --> 00:53:41,230 pointing it out. 675 00:53:41,650 --> 00:53:43,650 What are you people doing with nuclear weapons? 676 00:54:30,510 --> 00:54:35,890 As the 90s dawned and the walls fell down, it was as if humanity itself was 677 00:54:35,890 --> 00:54:39,810 demanding to be seen as one people and one world. 678 00:54:40,050 --> 00:54:46,350 The Soviet Union had dissolved, and history's spotlight began to shine on 679 00:54:46,390 --> 00:54:47,390 darkened corners. 680 00:54:48,430 --> 00:54:53,430 Different officials were looking for ways to open dialogue with the West and 681 00:54:53,430 --> 00:54:58,470 embrace all the changes that were underway in their country at the time. 682 00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:03,180 This is George Knapp in Moscow, the city many are... Knapp's team was invited to 683 00:55:03,180 --> 00:55:08,020 Moscow by government and military officials who were willing to share 684 00:55:08,260 --> 00:55:09,820 worth of UFO files. 685 00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:16,440 General Igor Maltsev, for seven years commander of the entire Soviet air 686 00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:22,260 system, recalls a UFO flap over Moscow in 1990, hundreds of visual and radar 687 00:55:22,260 --> 00:55:24,220 observations by military personnel. 688 00:55:24,660 --> 00:55:30,310 Maltsev confirms his standing order was... Don't fire on the UFOs. March 689 00:55:30,790 --> 00:55:35,050 radar at the Leningrad airport detects first one, then two, then three 690 00:55:35,050 --> 00:55:39,990 unidentified objects hovering over a nuclear plant. From a dead stop, the UFO 691 00:55:39,990 --> 00:55:42,510 zipped away at 2 ,000 miles per hour. 692 00:55:43,070 --> 00:55:47,830 Jacques Vallée was one of few Westerners to personally investigate the case by 693 00:55:47,830 --> 00:55:49,590 meeting with Russian sources firsthand. 694 00:55:49,890 --> 00:55:54,790 An object hovered near a nuclear power plant in Voronezh, and a beam from that 695 00:55:54,790 --> 00:55:56,390 object melted the asphalt there. 696 00:55:56,780 --> 00:56:00,920 The intention was maybe we would be able to find out from the Russians more 697 00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:05,200 about what the American government knows about UFOs than we will ever learn from 698 00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:06,320 the American government itself. 699 00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:08,580 Governor, are you ready to take the oath? 700 00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:14,940 I am. When a young, open -minded president was sworn in, one of America's 701 00:56:14,940 --> 00:56:19,920 highly -placed civilians saw a chance for a new government transparency on the 702 00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:24,760 phenomenon. As a means of access to people, to the wonders of nature. 703 00:56:25,290 --> 00:56:29,210 Heir to the power and influence of one of the world's wealthiest families, 704 00:56:29,770 --> 00:56:35,890 Lawrence Rockefeller, philanthropist and conservationist, also had a passionate 705 00:56:35,890 --> 00:56:42,710 interest in UFOs. His idea was to approach the 706 00:56:42,710 --> 00:56:49,310 president with a plea for making available the data 707 00:56:49,310 --> 00:56:52,250 that the government had on the subject. 708 00:56:52,970 --> 00:56:59,950 The first inclination by particularly people in government is, you got 709 00:56:59,950 --> 00:57:06,610 to be kidding me. You want me to risk my career by getting deeply into the 710 00:57:06,610 --> 00:57:12,630 rabbit hole of talking about UFOs? And so there's a tremendous resistance. 711 00:57:14,490 --> 00:57:18,910 Rockefeller met with President Clinton's science advisor, Jack Gibbons, at the 712 00:57:18,910 --> 00:57:21,850 White House and persuaded him to take action. 713 00:57:23,390 --> 00:57:27,790 Rockefeller was then asked to pick a case that the White House should attempt 714 00:57:27,790 --> 00:57:28,790 declassify. 715 00:57:30,270 --> 00:57:35,370 He chose the 1947 Roswell incident, noting, quote, 716 00:57:35,610 --> 00:57:39,770 Jack 717 00:57:39,770 --> 00:57:46,410 had actually gone to the Air Force. 718 00:57:48,380 --> 00:57:52,600 then Secretary Widnall, who is the Secretary of the Air Force, to take a 719 00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:56,740 particularly at the records around Roswell, New Mexico. 720 00:57:57,280 --> 00:58:03,020 Dear Colonel Kavin, the General Accounting Office seeks to fully explain 721 00:58:03,020 --> 00:58:09,220 claim that the U .S. government recovered an alien spacecraft near 722 00:58:09,220 --> 00:58:15,300 Mexico in July 1947 and since that time has covered up that fact. 723 00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:21,240 The Army Air Forces has announced that a flying disc has been found and is now 724 00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:22,400 in the possession of the Army. 725 00:58:25,180 --> 00:58:30,720 According to my dad, there was a bad thunderstorm the night before, and the 726 00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:34,280 day he was out on the ranch and he found this debris. 727 00:58:34,780 --> 00:58:39,460 The disc landed at a ranch at Corona, New Mexico, and the rancher turned it 728 00:58:39,460 --> 00:58:40,460 to the Air Force. 729 00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:45,240 Roswell was then home to the world's only nuclear air wing. 730 00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:50,680 including the B -29 that had dropped the first atomic bomb on Hiroshima. 731 00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:58,460 The base's chief intelligence officer, Major Jesse Marcel, was dispatched to 732 00:58:58,460 --> 00:58:59,640 ranch to investigate. 733 00:59:01,540 --> 00:59:03,660 We had to follow the rancher out there. 734 00:59:03,900 --> 00:59:06,860 With just verbal directions, we know who would have found it. 735 00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:12,880 Marcel and another officer were the first military to arrive at the crash 736 00:59:13,500 --> 00:59:19,100 They came upon an expanse of unrecognizable debris strewn across an 737 00:59:19,100 --> 00:59:21,500 size of a dozen football fields. 738 00:59:24,940 --> 00:59:26,380 There was so much of it. 739 00:59:26,620 --> 00:59:28,680 It was scattered over such a vast area. 740 00:59:29,180 --> 00:59:35,540 We found a piece of metal about a foot and a half to two feet wide and about 741 00:59:35,540 --> 00:59:37,340 two or three feet long. 742 00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:41,600 It felt like you had nothing in your hands. It wasn't any thicker than the 743 00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:42,760 out of a pack of cigarettes. 744 00:59:43,380 --> 00:59:48,180 The thing about that got me is that you couldn't even bend it. You couldn't 745 00:59:48,180 --> 00:59:49,180 embed it. 746 00:59:49,220 --> 00:59:51,340 Even with a sledgehammer, it would bounce off of it. 747 00:59:52,740 --> 00:59:57,680 Marcel was ordered to immediately transport the strange wreckage to Fort 748 00:59:57,680 --> 00:59:58,740 Army Airfield. 749 00:59:59,900 --> 01:00:05,560 There, Marcel was met by the commanding general who told him to keep silent in 750 01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:07,360 the face of what was becoming... 751 01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:12,560 A media frenzy. They had a whole flock of microphones there. They wanted some 752 01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:16,800 comments from me, but I wasn't that good, but they didn't do that. 753 01:00:19,220 --> 01:00:25,040 Marcel was instead ordered to pose with wood, foil, and rubber debris from a 754 01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:26,320 conventional weather balloon. 755 01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:30,520 All I could do is keep my mouth shut. 756 01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:36,620 And General Ramey is the one who told the newspapers what it was and to forget 757 01:00:36,620 --> 01:00:37,499 about it. 758 01:00:37,500 --> 01:00:43,140 It was nothing more than an observation balloon, of course, which we both knew 759 01:00:43,140 --> 01:00:44,140 differently. 760 01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:49,160 Colonel Thomas DuBose, who was also ordered to pose with the fake debris, 761 01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:53,900 describes how an iron curtain of secrecy slammed down. 762 01:00:54,490 --> 01:00:58,150 This is the highest priority you can accept, and you will say nothing. 763 01:00:58,430 --> 01:01:03,310 More than top secret, as he said. Beyond that, this is the story we're going to 764 01:01:03,310 --> 01:01:04,169 tell the public. 765 01:01:04,170 --> 01:01:08,350 It was a cover story, the balloon part of it. 766 01:01:08,610 --> 01:01:13,470 In order, we don't have any more inquiries about what we picked up on the 767 01:01:13,470 --> 01:01:17,870 desert. Congressman Schiff, what got you interested in this subject per se? 768 01:01:18,110 --> 01:01:21,770 I started receiving letters a little over two years ago from constituents. 769 01:01:22,670 --> 01:01:25,630 stating that they believed the government was covering up what happened 770 01:01:25,630 --> 01:01:30,910 Roswell. Many of them clearly believed that it was, in fact, an 771 01:01:30,910 --> 01:01:35,490 crash. The weather balloon story never made sense because it was clearly, and 772 01:01:35,490 --> 01:01:39,450 undisputed in my mind, extra military attention to this matter, from extra 773 01:01:39,450 --> 01:01:43,370 security around the crash scene to special handling of whatever the debris 774 01:01:43,970 --> 01:01:48,830 That could fit a classified project. It doesn't fit a weather balloon. 775 01:01:50,830 --> 01:01:55,590 In September 1994, the Air Force issued its response. 776 01:01:56,030 --> 01:01:57,530 The Roswell Report. 777 01:01:57,870 --> 01:01:59,030 Case closed. 778 01:02:00,350 --> 01:02:05,730 The Air Force claimed it was a secret project of weather balloons hung with 779 01:02:05,730 --> 01:02:10,250 kites and microphones to spy on Soviet nuclear tests. 780 01:02:11,670 --> 01:02:13,570 Please roll the video. 781 01:02:13,970 --> 01:02:18,010 There's the famous box kite that became the famous flying disc. 782 01:02:18,270 --> 01:02:20,130 The weather balloons that were on the... 783 01:02:20,510 --> 01:02:21,510 On the balloon train. 784 01:02:22,490 --> 01:02:27,650 Same rubber balloon, same foil box kite as the original cover story. 785 01:02:28,170 --> 01:02:32,930 Only many of them strung together with microphones dangling beneath. 786 01:02:34,470 --> 01:02:37,970 That's the tinfoil paper, rubber, and sticks that they recovered in the desert 787 01:02:37,970 --> 01:02:39,110 near New Mexico in 1947. 788 01:02:40,950 --> 01:02:46,270 The Air Force, nearly 50 years later, was basically telling the same tale. 789 01:02:47,470 --> 01:02:53,430 that the top security personnel of the world's only atomic bombing wing really 790 01:02:53,430 --> 01:02:59,310 had mistaken this rubber, wood, and tinfoil for a crashed flying saucer. 791 01:03:01,230 --> 01:03:04,650 Being an intelligence officer, I was familiar with just about all materials 792 01:03:04,650 --> 01:03:07,870 in aircraft and in our air travel. 793 01:03:08,390 --> 01:03:09,830 This was nothing like that. 794 01:03:10,170 --> 01:03:14,330 It was not anything from this earth that I'm quite sure of. 795 01:03:14,830 --> 01:03:16,570 My suspicion... 796 01:03:17,050 --> 01:03:23,510 is that the Roswell incident did happen and something maybe not from our 797 01:03:23,510 --> 01:03:26,370 universe went down there. 798 01:03:26,790 --> 01:03:33,310 And we should allow the American people to make a judgment on what that might 799 01:03:33,310 --> 01:03:39,190 have been by disclosing. I mean, this is probably the most blatant case of 800 01:03:39,190 --> 01:03:42,730 overreaction to what is national security. 801 01:03:43,050 --> 01:03:45,050 The public has a right to know. 802 01:03:48,049 --> 01:03:53,430 Rockefeller put together a briefing document intended for world leaders with 803 01:03:53,430 --> 01:03:54,630 sobering observation. 804 01:03:56,590 --> 01:04:02,590 It is conceivable that even the president himself is not fully briefed 805 01:04:02,590 --> 01:04:06,170 matters classified as above top secret. 806 01:04:07,870 --> 01:04:12,410 I did attempt to find out if there were any secret government documents that 807 01:04:12,410 --> 01:04:14,270 reveal things. And if there were. 808 01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:18,720 They were concealed from me, too. I wouldn't be the first president that 809 01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:21,760 underlings have lied to or that career bureaucrats have waited out. 810 01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:28,600 But there may be some career person sitting around somewhere hiding these 811 01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:32,720 secrets, even from elected presidents. But if so, they successfully eluded me. 812 01:04:32,980 --> 01:04:35,940 And I'm almost embarrassed to tell you I did try to find out. 813 01:04:41,290 --> 01:04:45,690 That was a beautiful one. Apollo astronaut Edgar Mitchell, who had grown 814 01:04:45,690 --> 01:04:50,790 around Roswell, was an aerospace insider with deep Pentagon connections. 815 01:04:52,670 --> 01:04:58,110 He became convinced there were UFO secrets concealed from normal government 816 01:04:58,110 --> 01:04:59,110 channels. 817 01:04:59,370 --> 01:05:05,590 Well, if the accounts are to be believed, yes, there have been ET 818 01:05:05,590 --> 01:05:07,690 There have been crashed craft. 819 01:05:08,070 --> 01:05:09,510 There have been... 820 01:05:10,450 --> 01:05:16,150 material and bodies recovered, and there is some group of people somewhere 821 01:05:16,150 --> 01:05:22,950 that may or may not be associated with government at this point, but 822 01:05:22,950 --> 01:05:26,270 certainly were at one time, that have this knowledge. 823 01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:44,540 No one has proven there's nothing to it. 824 01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:50,860 No one's had the opportunity to prove there's something to it. And that's what 825 01:05:50,860 --> 01:05:54,800 did. In 2007, 826 01:05:55,700 --> 01:06:01,160 the most powerful man in the Senate, Majority Leader Harry Reid, persuaded 827 01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:06,860 colleagues, Senators Ted Stevens and Daniel Inouye, to secretly allocate 828 01:06:06,860 --> 01:06:11,960 millions in Defense Department funds to investigate UFOs. 829 01:06:13,020 --> 01:06:18,660 The covert program operated from the tail end of the Bush presidency through 830 01:06:18,660 --> 01:06:23,300 Obama administration and into Donald Trump's first year in office. 831 01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:30,020 In December of 2017, the lid blew off. 832 01:06:35,370 --> 01:06:40,530 At long last, the government was admitting a modern -day program to 833 01:06:40,530 --> 01:06:47,470 UFOs and released startling official evidence, including videotapes from 834 01:06:47,470 --> 01:06:49,510 the cockpits of military aircraft. 835 01:06:51,370 --> 01:06:56,370 One of the key authors of the Times story was investigative journalist and 836 01:06:56,370 --> 01:06:58,270 -selling author Leslie Kane. 837 01:06:58,710 --> 01:07:02,210 She went to Washington to meet with Luis Elizondo. 838 01:07:02,650 --> 01:07:07,410 who had just resigned from his position as head of the secret Pentagon UFO 839 01:07:07,410 --> 01:07:08,410 program. 840 01:07:09,030 --> 01:07:11,970 I was invited to this meeting. They wanted me to meet Mr. 841 01:07:12,210 --> 01:07:13,870 Elizondo to see what could happen. 842 01:07:14,270 --> 01:07:18,310 Objects that are moving so fast, and yet we don't see an ionization trail in the 843 01:07:18,310 --> 01:07:21,450 air, and you don't hear a sonic boom. How is that possible? 844 01:07:23,110 --> 01:07:27,230 Elizondo's colleagues took her aside to reveal some extraordinary documentation 845 01:07:27,230 --> 01:07:29,350 related to the program. 846 01:07:30,570 --> 01:07:34,090 I wasn't allowed to take anything with me. I mean the most important evidence 847 01:07:34,090 --> 01:07:38,250 that was shared with me at the meeting regarding the phenomenon itself were the 848 01:07:38,250 --> 01:07:39,250 videos. 849 01:07:42,930 --> 01:07:46,130 I knew 850 01:07:46,130 --> 01:07:53,130 this was breaking news for the front page of the New York Times. 851 01:08:04,690 --> 01:08:09,290 My co -author Ralph Blumenthal and I set up a meeting with Mark Mazzetti and 852 01:08:09,290 --> 01:08:10,990 said we have this explosive story. 853 01:08:11,670 --> 01:08:15,010 Sat down with him in the New York office of the New York Times and we brought in 854 01:08:15,010 --> 01:08:18,729 all the documents. These are the videos. Here's other documents that show the 855 01:08:18,729 --> 01:08:19,930 existence of the program. 856 01:08:20,170 --> 01:08:23,410 And here's what they've studied and here's what they've learned. And here's 857 01:08:23,410 --> 01:08:25,290 letter from Harry Reid about the program. 858 01:08:27,210 --> 01:08:32,109 Elizondo's colleague, the former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for 859 01:08:32,109 --> 01:08:37,109 Intelligence, Christopher Mellon, managed to obtain the tapes from the 860 01:08:37,109 --> 01:08:40,609 and chose the New York Times to break the story. 861 01:08:41,210 --> 01:08:47,450 I received the videos, the now famous videos, in the Pentagon parking lot from 862 01:08:47,450 --> 01:08:50,770 Defense Department official. I still have the originals in the packaging. 863 01:08:51,250 --> 01:08:55,689 This is a case where somebody bent the rules a little bit. 864 01:08:56,200 --> 01:09:02,120 And they did so for the larger good and we're absolutely all better off because 865 01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:02,919 of it. 866 01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:07,660 In the end, I have to say, I was still extraordinarily disappointed with the 867 01:09:07,660 --> 01:09:13,779 York Times because they focused on this small AATIP program. 868 01:09:14,100 --> 01:09:19,600 And the real story in my mind, at least, should have been these things are real. 869 01:09:19,899 --> 01:09:20,899 They're here. 870 01:09:21,140 --> 01:09:22,840 This is happening now. 871 01:09:26,250 --> 01:09:31,470 One of the Pentagon cases reported by the New York Times was an encounter by 872 01:09:31,470 --> 01:09:36,630 naval aircraft about 200 miles off the coast of San Diego, California. 873 01:09:37,210 --> 01:09:41,170 5 ,500 people that were on the Nimitz in 2004 when this happened, and I 874 01:09:41,170 --> 01:09:45,810 guarantee every single one of them knows that this event happened. That's a 875 01:09:45,810 --> 01:09:47,850 whole air wing, that's Mount Fuji, that's Japan. 876 01:09:48,229 --> 01:09:53,450 Commander David Fravor was leading a training exercise from the USS Nimitz 877 01:09:53,450 --> 01:09:54,690 Carrier Strike Group. 878 01:09:55,230 --> 01:10:00,150 when he was abruptly ordered to investigate an unknown target that had 879 01:10:00,150 --> 01:10:02,130 on one of the ship's radar scopes. 880 01:10:02,910 --> 01:10:06,070 We're going to suspend the training. We have real -world tasking. So we're like, 881 01:10:06,150 --> 01:10:07,150 okay, cool. 882 01:10:07,450 --> 01:10:13,910 He and another F -18 Super Hornet, each carrying two airmen, zoomed toward the 883 01:10:13,910 --> 01:10:19,030 coordinates. My felt and my wizzo and the other pilot and the wizzo in the 884 01:10:19,030 --> 01:10:20,450 seat of that airplane. So there's four of us. 885 01:10:22,250 --> 01:10:27,190 When they arrived, they first saw what appeared to be a large object slightly 886 01:10:27,190 --> 01:10:33,030 below the surface of the ocean with a strange oval -shaped craft darting 887 01:10:33,030 --> 01:10:38,410 in the air just above it. If you picture a tic -tac that's about 40 feet long, 888 01:10:38,570 --> 01:10:41,890 you know, round on both ends, no rivets, no metal, smooth white. 889 01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:46,540 It was white. It was just smooth, no wings, no propulsion, no windows. 890 01:10:46,820 --> 01:10:49,460 It didn't matter which way it was pointing because as it was moving over 891 01:10:49,460 --> 01:10:52,720 water, it would go, you know, it never turned. It never changed its 892 01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:55,620 axis. It went four half left, right. It was just doing this. 893 01:10:56,360 --> 01:10:59,100 And I said, hey, I'm going to go check that out. 894 01:11:04,260 --> 01:11:07,400 All of a sudden, you just see it turn its body and go, whoop, and start coming 895 01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:10,460 up at you. You go, that was rather interesting. 896 01:11:11,200 --> 01:11:14,400 We're just looking at it. We're doing this. We're looking at it. 897 01:11:14,740 --> 01:11:17,280 We're looking at it. We're looking at it. We go around all the way around the 898 01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:18,580 outside of the circle 180 degrees. 899 01:11:18,940 --> 01:11:21,320 Well, I know where he's going, so I'll just go over there. 900 01:11:26,360 --> 01:11:28,500 And this thing goes, and it's gone. 901 01:11:28,720 --> 01:11:30,960 I mean, literally that fast. 902 01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:33,080 Gone. 903 01:11:34,300 --> 01:11:37,580 You can think about what we're saying like, holy shit, what the is that? 904 01:11:38,770 --> 01:11:40,670 You know, and then there's a lot of, dude, what the? 905 01:11:41,610 --> 01:11:45,790 Did you guys see that? Do you guys see it? And they're like, it's gone. We 906 01:11:45,790 --> 01:11:46,790 see shit. 907 01:11:47,750 --> 01:11:52,850 Nothing accelerates that fast. You're talking, you know, something that not 908 01:11:52,850 --> 01:11:59,770 accelerated beyond anything that we had seen, but it just was, the 909 01:11:59,770 --> 01:12:03,770 controller comes up and says, hey, you're not going to believe this, but 910 01:12:03,770 --> 01:12:05,410 thing is back at your cat point. 911 01:12:06,710 --> 01:12:12,330 meaning the object had instantly reappeared at the precise secret 912 01:12:12,330 --> 01:12:14,890 the fleet's critical aerial defense zone. 913 01:12:16,290 --> 01:12:19,890 It obviously had some awareness. It knew where we were going. 914 01:12:21,590 --> 01:12:23,490 I'm going to make the hair on the back of your neck stand up. 915 01:12:24,830 --> 01:12:27,450 I actually told my back's here. I said, I don't know about you, I'm pretty 916 01:12:27,450 --> 01:12:28,450 weirded out. 917 01:12:32,390 --> 01:12:37,150 More jets equipped with the Navy's most advanced radar visual tracking system 918 01:12:37,150 --> 01:12:42,990 were scrambled, this time capturing the object on video. 919 01:12:43,430 --> 01:12:45,570 First thing he gets is a little blip on the radar. 920 01:12:46,230 --> 01:12:50,890 He puts his cursors over it, and he tries to grab a lock on it. 921 01:12:53,350 --> 01:12:57,910 Basically, when you take a lock, you tell the radar, look at that location 922 01:12:57,910 --> 01:13:00,510 stare at it and put all your energy on that point. 923 01:13:01,100 --> 01:13:04,700 Well, as soon as it does it, the radar gets indications that it's being jammed 924 01:13:04,700 --> 01:13:06,120 by the object it's trying to lock. 925 01:13:09,300 --> 01:13:13,840 The infrared sees differing temperatures, so the tic -tac is 926 01:13:13,840 --> 01:13:14,840 than the air around it. 927 01:13:15,260 --> 01:13:17,460 It doesn't have to be by much, but it's going to appear white. 928 01:13:18,380 --> 01:13:19,800 It's just driving straight at it. 929 01:13:20,980 --> 01:13:22,300 It's just kind of hovering there. 930 01:13:23,260 --> 01:13:25,840 And then it goes poof, and it takes off off the side. 931 01:13:29,260 --> 01:13:30,300 I just don't know. 932 01:13:30,990 --> 01:13:34,290 I doubt that we have developed that technology. 933 01:13:36,890 --> 01:13:43,470 I interviewed three of the four aviators who were with Dave during that 934 01:13:43,470 --> 01:13:49,610 encounter. And it was readily apparent to everyone involved that that vehicle 935 01:13:49,610 --> 01:13:53,170 had what they call dominant battle space awareness. 936 01:13:53,770 --> 01:13:58,090 It was in control of that engagement from the outset. 937 01:13:58,390 --> 01:14:00,110 There was no question. 938 01:14:00,970 --> 01:14:04,470 that it completely outmatched our frontline fighters. 939 01:14:04,990 --> 01:14:10,270 I served on the Special Access Program Oversight Committee, so I had access to 940 01:14:10,270 --> 01:14:13,890 all of the black programs in those days. We know perfectly well there's nothing 941 01:14:13,890 --> 01:14:16,930 like that behind the scenes or even on the drawing boards. 942 01:14:19,850 --> 01:14:24,870 Senator Harry Reid, who instigated the secret Pentagon UFO program... 943 01:14:25,350 --> 01:14:29,710 confirmed what nuclear launch officers have been reporting for decades. 944 01:14:30,330 --> 01:14:31,850 There's more than one up there. 945 01:14:32,390 --> 01:14:36,810 UFOs have interfered with our country's most powerful weapons. 946 01:14:37,270 --> 01:14:42,530 If they had been called upon by the president to launch, they couldn't have 947 01:14:42,530 --> 01:14:48,890 it. Did you have anybody in the Defense Department, the Pentagon, pull you 948 01:14:48,890 --> 01:14:50,630 aside, bend your ear and say... 949 01:14:52,390 --> 01:14:56,770 Why are you doing this? They did everything they could to stop the 950 01:14:56,770 --> 01:15:01,090 going forward. They gave the person that came to me initially such a bad time. 951 01:15:01,450 --> 01:15:04,830 He's fortunate to have hung on to his job because people tried to get rid of 952 01:15:04,830 --> 01:15:08,130 because they wanted nothing to do with this. 953 01:15:08,530 --> 01:15:15,090 The Defense Intelligence Agency was one of the worst. They drug their feet, even 954 01:15:15,090 --> 01:15:18,230 though there was one of their senior scientists thought they should look at 955 01:15:18,230 --> 01:15:20,750 this. And remember, all we're saying. 956 01:15:21,710 --> 01:15:27,690 Nobody has to agree that why it's there, but shouldn't we at least be spending 957 01:15:27,690 --> 01:15:29,890 some money to study all these phenomenon? 958 01:15:30,610 --> 01:15:32,130 Shouldn't we study the stuff? 959 01:15:32,750 --> 01:15:34,090 The answer is yes. 960 01:15:34,350 --> 01:15:38,910 And that's all this was about. And why the federal government all these years 961 01:15:38,910 --> 01:15:44,430 has covered up, put brake pads on everything, stopped it. 962 01:15:44,790 --> 01:15:48,530 I think it's very, very bad for our country. 963 01:15:54,160 --> 01:15:58,660 I interviewed Gordon Cooper, Mercury astronaut Gordon Cooper, back in the 964 01:15:58,680 --> 01:16:04,620 Cooper said on camera that there was a landed UFO at circa 1957 at Edwards Air 965 01:16:04,620 --> 01:16:09,500 Force Base. His camera crew captured the filming of this object, and he 966 01:16:09,500 --> 01:16:14,680 presented this to the higher -ups, and eventually a courier jet came in from 967 01:16:14,680 --> 01:16:17,640 Washington. He handed the footage over, which was good. He viewed it. 968 01:16:17,860 --> 01:16:19,320 That's the last he saw of it. Exactly. 969 01:16:19,600 --> 01:16:22,980 Did you know where that footage went of the flying saucer that landed on the... 970 01:16:23,350 --> 01:16:25,910 I went to Washington. That's all that I know. 971 01:16:26,250 --> 01:16:29,050 Did you ever keep in touch with anybody about it or discuss it? How would I keep 972 01:16:29,050 --> 01:16:30,470 in touch with anybody about it? 973 01:16:31,410 --> 01:16:35,390 There's no way within the military or within the government of keeping track 974 01:16:35,390 --> 01:16:36,710 something that is classified. 975 01:16:37,210 --> 01:16:38,810 Did you try to go after stuff like this? 976 01:16:39,750 --> 01:16:40,750 We did. 977 01:16:41,350 --> 01:16:42,269 It's there. 978 01:16:42,270 --> 01:16:48,490 Are you saying that there's some evidence that still hasn't seen the 979 01:16:48,490 --> 01:16:49,490 day? 980 01:16:50,920 --> 01:16:53,200 I'm saying most of it hasn't seen the light of day. 981 01:16:58,940 --> 01:17:03,980 Astronaut Cooper had spoken with the president at a cabinet meeting. He 982 01:17:03,980 --> 01:17:05,220 this with Secretary Cohen. 983 01:17:05,620 --> 01:17:11,140 And then Cohen's office called me and asked me to pursue this and chase it 984 01:17:15,500 --> 01:17:20,200 The Air Force colonel that I spoke with got very frustrated, and when I asked 985 01:17:20,200 --> 01:17:24,120 him what happened to all of these records, he said, well, that was all 986 01:17:24,120 --> 01:17:28,820 up or thrown out to save space, something like that. That sounded 987 01:17:28,820 --> 01:17:29,820 that's what he told me. 988 01:17:32,300 --> 01:17:39,060 If there is some recovered debris, say, it is so deeply buried 989 01:17:39,060 --> 01:17:41,840 and squirreled away that... 990 01:17:43,340 --> 01:17:47,380 It's outside of those normal oversight processes, and that's where there's a 991 01:17:47,380 --> 01:17:48,380 problem in this area. 992 01:17:55,980 --> 01:18:02,360 Dr. Jacques Vallée has collected purported metal debris from UFO cases 993 01:18:02,360 --> 01:18:08,800 far back as 1947 that experts are analyzing in a state -of -the -art 994 01:18:09,340 --> 01:18:11,080 The breakthrough has come with the invention. 995 01:18:11,760 --> 01:18:15,940 of a machine that enables us to look at the atomic structure. 996 01:18:16,260 --> 01:18:20,900 And at that point, the atomic structure is impossible to fake. 997 01:18:21,120 --> 01:18:24,920 This device is a multi -parameter ion beam imager. 998 01:18:25,180 --> 01:18:31,400 Dr. Gary Nolan, a Stanford microbiologist, is using a revolutionary 999 01:18:31,400 --> 01:18:36,440 -dimensional imaging device to analyze the samples right down to their 1000 01:18:36,440 --> 01:18:37,580 individual atoms. 1001 01:18:38,920 --> 01:18:39,818 When Dr. 1002 01:18:39,820 --> 01:18:44,360 Nolan placed some of the fragments in the vacuum chamber of his instrument, he 1003 01:18:44,360 --> 01:18:49,940 was astonished to find their composition was unlike any known metal. Just one 1004 01:18:49,940 --> 01:18:53,900 spot and the isotopic composition all the way across. 1005 01:18:54,300 --> 01:18:59,420 No matter where he looked in the sample's jumble of elements, whether 1006 01:18:59,880 --> 01:19:05,940 iron, nickel, or titanium, the ratio of isotopes didn't make any sense. 1007 01:19:06,680 --> 01:19:10,680 If you're talking about an advanced material from an advanced civilization, 1008 01:19:11,120 --> 01:19:14,880 you're talking about something that I'll just call it an ultramaterial, right? 1009 01:19:14,960 --> 01:19:20,580 It's something which has properties where somebody is putting it together, 1010 01:19:20,660 --> 01:19:26,860 again, at the atomic scale. So we're building our world with 80 1011 01:19:26,860 --> 01:19:32,960 elements. Somebody else is building the world with 253 different 1012 01:19:32,960 --> 01:19:34,000 isotopes. 1013 01:19:36,170 --> 01:19:41,910 I intend to use the information to try to build something, to try to understand 1014 01:19:41,910 --> 01:19:44,330 a physical principle that we don't know today. 1015 01:19:44,570 --> 01:19:46,470 This material was manufactured. 1016 01:19:46,870 --> 01:19:48,270 It's not natural. 1017 01:19:48,590 --> 01:19:54,970 It's not natural to the materials that we have around us in the lab or on the 1018 01:19:54,970 --> 01:20:01,010 Earth. It does not mean that it was necessarily made someplace in outer 1019 01:20:01,210 --> 01:20:04,610 It just means that it was manufactured spatially. 1020 01:20:05,050 --> 01:20:09,710 for a particular purpose that we don't understand and we want to understand it 1021 01:20:09,710 --> 01:20:17,750 there 1022 01:20:17,750 --> 01:20:24,490 is an immense array of unanswered questions what we observe some of these 1023 01:20:24,490 --> 01:20:25,750 craft doing 1024 01:20:26,680 --> 01:20:32,300 Think about the possibilities, what we may discover technologically, how we 1025 01:20:32,300 --> 01:20:36,120 might solve the energy crisis, how we might raise our standards of living. 1026 01:20:38,120 --> 01:20:42,600 There is an urgent need, in my view, to get to the bottom of it. We don't know 1027 01:20:42,600 --> 01:20:47,380 the origin of these vehicles, nor do we understand the intent of whoever is 1028 01:20:47,380 --> 01:20:49,020 controlling them. 1029 01:20:51,470 --> 01:20:57,590 There are cases that seem to go beyond encounters with an advanced technology 1030 01:20:57,590 --> 01:21:00,250 contact with an engaged intelligence. 1031 01:21:01,210 --> 01:21:04,250 Papua New Guinea, June 1959. 1032 01:21:04,890 --> 01:21:11,590 An Australian missionary spots a large disc hovering just 200 feet off the 1033 01:21:11,590 --> 01:21:14,950 ground while standing with 38 other people. 1034 01:21:15,170 --> 01:21:20,030 This solid -looking object, and can you imagine? 1035 01:21:20,650 --> 01:21:26,150 what it's like to look up in the sky and see some figures up there. 1036 01:21:27,170 --> 01:21:33,970 All were amazed to see four small occupants dressed in what looked like 1037 01:21:33,970 --> 01:21:34,970 diving suits. 1038 01:21:35,450 --> 01:21:42,050 Figures walking about on top and not the slightest noise 1039 01:21:42,050 --> 01:21:45,610 whatsoever. And so we waved. 1040 01:21:46,510 --> 01:21:47,690 Wouldn't it be wonderful? 1041 01:21:48,380 --> 01:21:51,460 if we could get this object down onto the playing field. 1042 01:21:52,080 --> 01:21:57,280 And as we waved, wondering whether we'd get some recognition and whether perhaps 1043 01:21:57,280 --> 01:22:01,600 they would understand what we wanted, they waved back. 1044 01:22:03,160 --> 01:22:08,960 The encounter lasted several hours before the object abruptly departed. 1045 01:22:09,560 --> 01:22:16,120 There was this amazingly incredible speed that the whole craft... 1046 01:22:16,330 --> 01:22:21,970 disappeared to nothing across the bay in a matter of a second or so. 1047 01:22:26,130 --> 01:22:33,130 In 1994, three days of sightings across Zimbabwe culminated in what some 1048 01:22:33,130 --> 01:22:37,450 believe is the most significant close encounter in modern history. 1049 01:22:39,220 --> 01:22:44,140 Hundreds of people today phoned the ZBC and the BBC correspondent in Harare 1050 01:22:44,140 --> 01:22:50,480 saying they sighted an unidentifying flying object last night with some 1051 01:22:50,480 --> 01:22:51,560 eyewitness reports. 1052 01:22:52,840 --> 01:22:56,580 It almost seemed to be under the clouds. As it came past, I noticed there was no 1053 01:22:56,580 --> 01:22:58,580 noise, and that's when I thought, well, there's something very odd here. 1054 01:22:59,520 --> 01:23:00,520 It was quite amazing. 1055 01:23:00,740 --> 01:23:01,740 It was beautiful. 1056 01:23:02,060 --> 01:23:05,920 They are saying that Jesus is passing through Africa. 1057 01:23:06,740 --> 01:23:07,940 That's what they are saying. 1058 01:23:19,240 --> 01:23:23,260 We interviewed about 64 children in front of the camera. 1059 01:23:23,560 --> 01:23:25,120 UFO story, that happens. 1060 01:23:25,480 --> 01:23:27,500 Just say exactly what you want to say, okay. 1061 01:23:28,220 --> 01:23:34,300 Well, I was running and playing and then I saw this maroon color in the sky. 1062 01:23:34,660 --> 01:23:39,780 Why don't we follow it? We saw this like a silver thing down there. It was a 1063 01:23:39,780 --> 01:23:43,800 silver oval thing that flew past really slowly. 1064 01:23:44,320 --> 01:23:48,560 I saw the bigger one and the spaceship, like four or five of them. It was red, 1065 01:23:48,660 --> 01:23:49,559 green, and yellow. 1066 01:23:49,560 --> 01:23:53,160 It was this big ship. It had these lights, these patterns, and it flew. 1067 01:23:53,460 --> 01:23:56,100 I thought, no, it's not a UFO. 1068 01:23:56,320 --> 01:23:58,960 And then I looked carefully at it, and I thought, maybe. 1069 01:24:04,740 --> 01:24:09,860 Dozens of children said that one or more of the disk -shaped objects landed just 1070 01:24:09,860 --> 01:24:11,940 beyond the far edge of their playground. 1071 01:24:15,340 --> 01:24:19,820 The next thing they knew, something was standing next to it. 1072 01:24:23,620 --> 01:24:28,820 You saw him standing by the silver thing, and he had big eyes. 1073 01:24:32,060 --> 01:24:38,020 He had a big head and big black eyes and was dressed in a black bodysuit. 1074 01:24:38,340 --> 01:24:40,020 They were wearing pure black. 1075 01:24:40,340 --> 01:24:43,520 And I came down and I saw the funny man with his eyes here. 1076 01:24:44,060 --> 01:24:47,880 And I saw a spaceship and there were a few little ones around him. 1077 01:24:53,880 --> 01:24:56,060 How far away were you when you saw him? 1078 01:24:56,460 --> 01:25:01,300 Not very far. Not very far. About a metre away. A metre away. That close? 1079 01:25:01,580 --> 01:25:02,580 Yes. 1080 01:25:04,780 --> 01:25:06,180 And how big was the figure? 1081 01:25:06,800 --> 01:25:09,220 It was about as big as a grade six. 1082 01:25:09,800 --> 01:25:13,020 I believe that the children... 1083 01:25:13,500 --> 01:25:14,500 Did you see something? 1084 01:25:15,000 --> 01:25:19,540 I believed them, because normally children don't lie. 1085 01:25:19,800 --> 01:25:21,820 I've always taught my children seeing is believing. 1086 01:25:22,060 --> 01:25:26,500 Unfortunately, I didn't see, so... This 1087 01:25:26,500 --> 01:25:33,480 alleged encounter caught the attention of Pulitzer Prize 1088 01:25:33,480 --> 01:25:37,040 -winning Harvard psychiatrist Dr. John Mack. 1089 01:25:37,340 --> 01:25:41,460 It seemed that he was looking at all of us. What did it feel like when he was 1090 01:25:41,460 --> 01:25:42,460 looking at you? 1091 01:25:42,510 --> 01:25:43,510 I felt scared. 1092 01:25:43,810 --> 01:25:46,730 It felt scary? What was scary about it? 1093 01:25:47,830 --> 01:25:53,990 Well, I felt scared because I've never seen such a person like that before. 1094 01:25:54,270 --> 01:26:01,010 And I saw this person, and it had big eyes. 1095 01:26:01,470 --> 01:26:03,450 That's all I saw about it, big eyes. 1096 01:26:03,830 --> 01:26:09,530 They had short legs and quite a long top, with a big head and eyes that are 1097 01:26:09,530 --> 01:26:10,690 bigger than ours. 1098 01:26:11,180 --> 01:26:13,160 How much bigger than ours? 1099 01:26:13,760 --> 01:26:17,460 Four or five times the size. Four or five times the size of ours. 1100 01:26:20,160 --> 01:26:23,300 So then I was looking at him, right? Then he was looking at me back. 1101 01:26:23,540 --> 01:26:26,940 I couldn't just keep on looking at him so I had to stop and I looked sideways. 1102 01:26:27,340 --> 01:26:29,900 But I was looking straight into his eyes. 1103 01:26:30,500 --> 01:26:31,980 Well, he never said anything. 1104 01:26:32,520 --> 01:26:34,880 Just that the face is the eye. 1105 01:26:35,690 --> 01:26:40,890 Maybe they're trying to communicate with us, show us something which we don't 1106 01:26:40,890 --> 01:26:41,749 know about. 1107 01:26:41,750 --> 01:26:48,490 I think they want people to know that we're 1108 01:26:48,490 --> 01:26:53,210 actually making harm on the world and we mustn't get too acknowledged. 1109 01:26:53,770 --> 01:26:55,530 We don't look after the planet. 1110 01:26:56,070 --> 01:27:02,710 All the trees will just go down and there will be no air and people will be 1111 01:27:02,710 --> 01:27:04,450 dying. Is this an idea? 1112 01:27:05,500 --> 01:27:12,320 You have had before, or did this idea come to you when you had this 1113 01:27:14,720 --> 01:27:16,360 When I had this experience. 1114 01:27:17,580 --> 01:27:23,640 For the first time in nearly 20 years, the Ariel schoolchildren gathered from 1115 01:27:23,640 --> 01:27:28,240 the four corners of the world to talk to each other about the experience they 1116 01:27:28,240 --> 01:27:29,840 shared that September morning. 1117 01:27:30,060 --> 01:27:31,060 I remember. 1118 01:27:31,580 --> 01:27:34,760 One they all still struggle to understand. 1119 01:27:35,060 --> 01:27:38,160 You know that it's moving, but you... I stand by what I saw. 1120 01:27:38,880 --> 01:27:44,720 There was no reason for any of us to make that up. 1121 01:27:45,760 --> 01:27:47,620 I've not spoken to anybody about it. 1122 01:27:48,160 --> 01:27:52,840 Not because I'm not proud of it, but because I don't want the stigma. 1123 01:27:55,080 --> 01:27:58,120 So it's something that I've had to deal with. 1124 01:27:59,130 --> 01:28:00,750 for 19 and a half years. 1125 01:28:02,710 --> 01:28:06,170 I don't want to say I felt like I knew it, but I knew that I didn't have to be 1126 01:28:06,170 --> 01:28:06,889 afraid of it. 1127 01:28:06,890 --> 01:28:11,890 They took us back to the moment of contact. Exactly how I felt, exactly. 1128 01:28:11,890 --> 01:28:14,530 details still seared into memory. 1129 01:28:14,990 --> 01:28:20,170 I was with one of the other girls and saying to her, this is amazing. 1130 01:28:20,710 --> 01:28:22,910 We all were just stopped in our tracks. 1131 01:28:24,910 --> 01:28:26,890 A little man appeared. 1132 01:28:27,980 --> 01:28:29,440 On top of the actual craft. 1133 01:28:29,920 --> 01:28:34,760 And that moment for me was very distinct because I was like, that's not human. 1134 01:28:35,060 --> 01:28:40,080 I was just completely engulfed in these eyes. The eyes. And in that moment, 1135 01:28:40,200 --> 01:28:43,900 however long it was, because I have no idea of the time frame, it was 1136 01:28:43,900 --> 01:28:46,060 mesmerizing. There was no talking. 1137 01:28:48,000 --> 01:28:49,700 It's all just images in the head. 1138 01:28:53,140 --> 01:28:54,140 Telepathic communication. 1139 01:28:55,980 --> 01:29:00,420 They were trying to communicate, trying to tell us something. It was something 1140 01:29:00,420 --> 01:29:01,780 to do with the environment. 1141 01:29:02,240 --> 01:29:05,340 I kept getting these thoughts and ideas in my mind of technology. 1142 01:29:05,900 --> 01:29:08,380 Technology is not helping, technology is bad. 1143 01:29:11,680 --> 01:29:16,760 And we're going down a wrong path and we have to start recognising that what 1144 01:29:16,760 --> 01:29:19,320 we're doing is detrimental and we need to make changes. 1145 01:29:19,620 --> 01:29:23,100 And I don't know what to do with that or... 1146 01:29:25,770 --> 01:29:30,390 They were reaching out to us. It was as if they wanted us to go with them. 1147 01:29:32,130 --> 01:29:37,870 At that moment, that was kind of when I snapped right out of the trance. 1148 01:29:39,210 --> 01:29:44,090 As soon as I broke contact, all of those feelings, technology, the bad, the 1149 01:29:44,090 --> 01:29:48,490 horribleness that was happening and going around my body at the time went. 1150 01:29:48,910 --> 01:29:52,930 It's making me a bit anxious being back here. I can feel it right now. 1151 01:29:53,510 --> 01:29:54,750 I was scared. 1152 01:29:56,080 --> 01:30:03,000 They came running up here in such a panic, screaming, screaming, and the 1153 01:30:03,000 --> 01:30:04,000 can't make that up. 1154 01:30:05,400 --> 01:30:10,280 So I was there when they were interviewing them and saw the way they 1155 01:30:10,280 --> 01:30:14,200 was just a huge big mess and muddle up and just people everywhere. 1156 01:30:14,980 --> 01:30:19,520 Just ask them questions straight off without explaining to the children what 1157 01:30:19,520 --> 01:30:22,640 they were doing and why they were doing it. It was chaos. 1158 01:30:23,340 --> 01:30:28,980 in terms of the media frenzy that was going on and us being so young and not 1159 01:30:28,980 --> 01:30:33,420 even being allowed time to comprehend what we had seen. 1160 01:30:34,860 --> 01:30:38,480 Our teachers certainly didn't believe us. That was a big deal because we had 1161 01:30:38,480 --> 01:30:39,700 continue going to school there. 1162 01:30:43,600 --> 01:30:48,620 We went back one last time to the Ariel School to meet with Judy Bates, a 1163 01:30:48,620 --> 01:30:52,040 teacher at the time of the incident and now the headmistress. 1164 01:30:52,960 --> 01:30:56,860 something was weighing on her that she wanted to tell the children. 1165 01:30:57,860 --> 01:31:01,140 Yeah, I said I wanted to apologize. I should have taken more notice. 1166 01:31:02,020 --> 01:31:06,860 But I didn't. I was more concerned about me and not them and what was going on 1167 01:31:06,860 --> 01:31:09,040 in my own sort of experience. 1168 01:31:10,060 --> 01:31:11,220 And that's what, yeah. 1169 01:31:15,680 --> 01:31:19,500 And if you could summarize in just one sentence. 1170 01:31:20,000 --> 01:31:26,280 what took place September 1994 here at Ariel School, Rua Zimbabwe, what would 1171 01:31:26,280 --> 01:31:27,280 you say? 1172 01:31:27,940 --> 01:31:29,180 Aliens visited us. 1173 01:31:30,160 --> 01:31:31,620 And that's about it, yeah. 1174 01:31:32,040 --> 01:31:34,940 And that's why if you believe it, you believe it. If you don't, well... 1175 01:31:34,940 --> 01:31:41,920 We find ourselves confronted 1176 01:31:41,920 --> 01:31:45,600 with something that challenges our very understanding of reality. 1177 01:31:47,020 --> 01:31:52,680 We may be sharing this fragile blue -green oasis with an unknown other, 1178 01:31:52,840 --> 01:31:59,820 one with a mysterious relationship to humanity and its own interest in our 1179 01:31:59,820 --> 01:32:00,820 world. 1180 01:32:02,380 --> 01:32:04,840 And if you saw him again, what would you do? 1181 01:32:05,220 --> 01:32:09,220 I'll ask him what is he doing on earth and what does he want from us. 1182 01:33:45,360 --> 01:33:52,240 They were well -observed UFO cases, just like modern cases in the 18th century. 1183 01:33:52,340 --> 01:33:55,260 In the 17th century, there was science. 1184 01:33:55,520 --> 01:33:56,520 They were astronomers. 1185 01:33:56,820 --> 01:33:57,820 They had telescopes. 1186 01:33:58,180 --> 01:34:03,300 And they were very good observers, because their life depended on being 1187 01:34:03,300 --> 01:34:06,980 observers. And these observations come from all over the world. 1188 01:34:08,400 --> 01:34:10,120 They just have been forgotten. 1189 01:34:37,200 --> 01:34:41,440 I like to think of anomalies, mysteries as opportunities. 1190 01:34:41,960 --> 01:34:47,960 And we'll go after those mysteries, take the torch away from the campfire and 1191 01:34:47,960 --> 01:34:51,680 out of the cave into the darkness and make some amazing discoveries. 1192 01:35:15,080 --> 01:35:20,620 The UFO phenomenon, as studied by my colleagues and myself, bespeaks the 1193 01:35:20,620 --> 01:35:22,220 of some form of intelligence. 1194 01:36:00,010 --> 01:36:04,290 These objects gave the impression that they wanted to be seen. 1195 01:36:05,610 --> 01:36:12,370 With these enormous spotlights, there was no way that they were trying to 1196 01:36:12,530 --> 01:36:13,530 So why? 1197 01:36:13,610 --> 01:36:18,570 That is the main question. Why do these objects want to be seen? 1198 01:36:39,880 --> 01:36:46,860 Later on, I was so sorry that why I did not call on the 1199 01:36:46,860 --> 01:36:49,740 radio, ask them, who are you? 1200 01:36:50,460 --> 01:36:55,160 Please, make communication with us. 1201 01:37:12,430 --> 01:37:17,130 I figure if they're smart enough and capable enough to come into our airspace 1202 01:37:17,130 --> 01:37:20,730 with the technology that they have, if they wanted to do us in, they could have 1203 01:37:20,730 --> 01:37:23,890 done us in a long time ago. So I'm not fearful of this at all. 1204 01:37:44,799 --> 01:37:50,260 I think if we open up the world, it will greatly promote the development of the 1205 01:37:50,260 --> 01:37:54,320 world's scientific and technological system, and benefit human progress. This 1206 01:37:54,320 --> 01:37:55,320 a big thing. 1207 01:38:37,360 --> 01:38:41,440 It went like a bat out of hell. Jumped about 10 degrees to the right, just like 1208 01:38:41,440 --> 01:38:44,960 this. I've never seen anything go so fast in my life as that thing went. 1209 01:38:45,120 --> 01:38:48,420 Incredible speed disappeared to nothing. 1210 01:38:48,760 --> 01:38:51,680 And just went zoom straight up so fast. 1211 01:38:52,200 --> 01:38:53,500 It's like it had been shot out of a gun. 1212 01:38:53,720 --> 01:38:57,260 Wow. Now you see it, now you don't. It's just too... But it just was... 109241

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