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Joel is brilliant.

He's like Mr.

Harvard, Yale, Stanford guy. And he's also really, really strong.

I'm asking you for both of our stakes to become my ally again.

It's a little bit weird for me because I feel like I'm kind of like the

godfather of something arranging a hit on somebody.

I don't know if I'm entirely comfortable with it.

Welcome back to the Survivor Cook Islands reunion show. We are live in

where Yule has just won a million dollars in a very close dramatic vote.

You know, I kind of said it before as we read the votes, but I got to

acknowledge both of you guys with all due respect to Becky as well for doing

well. But you two dominated this game. You deserve to be in the final two. It's

the first time I've ever felt bad that somebody.

Didn't win in the case of Ozzie. I mean, I'm happy for you, Ewell, but it was so

evenly matched.

It was really great.

So, agreed.

Ewell, let's go through some of the keys because in looking back over the

season, you did so many things right to keep you in the power position of the

game. You absolutely deserved it. I didn't mean to take anything away from

Going back to the first thing, finding the idol.

In the totem pole of events, how big was that?

It was huge.

I mean, there's a lot of luck involved in playing this game. I got sent at the

right time, and I think the key to winning the game is maximizing the good

and mitigating the bad luck.

I got sent at the right time. I found the idol, and I really played it the way

wanted to play it, which was not to save my own butt one time, but to really

change the game up. And we had that opportunity, and it really flipped

its head.

Another big moment that could have destroyed...

you and the rest of I2 was the mutiny. What was your first reaction when you

Candice and then Jonathan step out?

We're screwed.

I thought that was it. I mean, they had the numbers, they had the thighs.

I didn't realize at the time what an amazing challenge demon Ozzy was.

I mean, but I mean, at that time, I thought our game was over and I thought

was just a matter of trying to come out with, you know, a good ending for the

four of us.

Candice, why mutiny? That's a risky move to make in the middle of the game

with... You had no idea that was coming.

Right. Well, like you said, you know, we had a chance to change our fate in the

game. And Jonathan and I had talked at length about flipping back over

eventually. I had already talked to Nate about working with Adam, Nate Parvati.

And so, you know, it's a chance of a lifetime. And I thought we could make it

and we could get to the end.

It didn't work out, but it was fun.

It is how you play. It's really how you have to play this game, though, to have

a shot. You have to make big moves and never quit making them.

Sandra, what was it? Because at that point, I remember the four of you, the

on your faces as you looked over at this other group of eight, I think. You

thought it was over. What was it about this foursome that bonded you? Because

many other people might have just splintered and said, I'm out on my own

Yeah. You know, I think it's just...

the luck of having four great people together who have a similar objective in

mind, which is, you know, I want to play this game. I want to play this game

with as much integrity as I can.

And you know what?

We're going to do this because this is all that we have. And I think it was

the right people.

It could have been, if it was one other person who had the wrong mindset, it

wouldn't have worked the way it did and it wouldn't have played out as

beautifully as it did.

Yul, another big key was how you managed to lure Jonathan back.

Take me through that. What did you say to him? How did you convince him? You

were always running numbers. Out on the show, Ewell was constantly going, we

have a 33 .3 % chance of this happening.

Did you do that with Jonathan?

Yeah, I think there were a couple of things. I mean, he's a very rational

player, and he's a really smart guy. And I thought he would be able to really

kind of appreciate a rational argument. So I came up with this whole argument

where I said, if you don't flip over to our side.

probability -wise, we'll be able to execute a strategy by which we'll be out

the next two rounds. So really, you have no choice.

And the other thing I told him was I was afraid that he might come around and

try to lie to us and, you know, end up voting against us. And I told him, it

kind of a stretch on my part, but I said the only reason he hasn't been voted

out of his tribe so far was because they all suspected that he had the idol. So

if they ever find out that he really didn't have the idol, he'd be booted.

over the next round. So that was kind of my insurance to make sure he didn't

come and flip over on us. So that's huge. That gives you at a point where

numbers could have gone either way. That gives you the numbers.

Then, amazingly, you used Jonathan in voting Jonathan out as a way to

potentially help you win this game. Adam, you were instrumental in that. You

come over and make a deal.

And I want to make sure I'm clear on this. You said to Ewell that if you get

of Jonathan before me or Parvati, That I'll give you my votes in the end? And

not, I would have voted for Ozzie.

And did you keep your word? Yep.

So, yeah, Ozzie, did you know?

Let me make sure I set this up right.

So that in case this isn't making sense. The situation is, Jonathan has now

betrayed both camps.

Ewell is now sitting in the power position of this game. Adam comes in and

guess what? If you vote Jonathan out, because I don't like him.

Let me in poverty stay a day longer.

I'll give you a vote at the final tribal council. That's a million -dollar vote,

as it turns out, in tonight's vote. Did you know that was going on?

Well, Adam had mentioned a little bit of that, saying that he had promised Yule

that he was going to vote for him because of that decision. But I think

thing that Adam didn't really realize at the time is it wasn't really Yule's

decision. Us as a four had made that decision already.

That's my point. He benefited. So I did not, I really didn't know that Yule had

promised, you know, promised the vote for Jonathan. And I tried to explain to

Adam that, no, you know, that, in fact, was not the case, that us as a four had

already made the decision. So a little too late, I guess. And another credit to

you, Yule, for doing something that I don't think people realized you were

doing, which was playing everybody so in such subtle ways.

It's a tiny little maneuver, but it seemed to pay off.

How instrumental was Becky?

When I was out there, I don't hear a lot of what goes on in the beach. I thought

Becky often as being a tag -along. When I was at home watching the show, I

realized she was with you on a lot of these decisions.

Yeah, Becky is an incredibly strong player.

When you watch the season, you don't appreciate all the subtle moves that she

made. I mean, she was an equal partner in everything that we did. I think at

some point, people started calling me the puppet master.

And I was trying to fight, and I was trying to convince them, I'm not the

master. I mean, the way I like to work with a group is to build consensus.

But at some point, I realized they're going to think I'm BS -ing about it. So

I'm like, fine, if you think I'm the puppet master, I'll take that and use it

my advantage.

But the truth is, Becky was with me every step of the way. We worked

we collaborated together, we strategized together.

Becky, is it a little frustrating?

knowing how instrumental you were, that you will probably be remembered for not

being able to start fire after 38 days.

We practiced. We really, really did. We practiced, and I think we were both

really, really nervous.

And also being against somebody who you're, you know, we were friends,

close friends, and it wasn't shown how we were actually sharing and trying to

help each other out. But that was the whole reason why I think we went so far

together, because of that trust.

A lot of questions I get on the streets are about you and Yule.

Like, because you had such a special bond, was it ever romantic? Did you ever

consider it being romantic? Or are we crazy?

I think both of us are very focused.

And when we're in this game the whole time, we weren't thinking along those

of outside the box. We were thinking just about strategy in the game.

And we knew that our best chance of going as far as we could would be to

together, stay aligned.

We didn't cross that line. We were really good friends. Did it enter your

No, it didn't enter my mind. Okay.

There's something else I want to share because this was news to me, Yule.

There's the other side of Yule, which is People Magazine.

There it is.

The sexiest man issue.

There's Yule. So is your life changing a little, Yule? Are you getting dates?

Honestly, when I heard about this, I thought it was a practical joke. I was

like, no.

I mean, honestly. But I think it's a little bit silly. But I appreciate it.

I think my mom would be happy.

I think she just wants me to get married. And she's hoping to find me a

Here's something that occurred to me. And I don't know if it did to anybody

else. But toward the end, when you were in the hot tub with Parvati and Ozzy.

To uninhibited and naked people, I couldn't tell if this was... He was

too. Right.

But here's my question. I couldn't tell if this was, to you all, wow, this is a

great moment, or this is my worst nightmare.

Which was it?

I think it was more the latter. I wanted to get the hell out of there, but I

didn't want to give that an opportunity to strategize, so I wanted to keep my

eye on poverty.

I waited until I fell asleep that night, then I went to bed.

What's the first thing you did when you got home?

I got a Costco membership, and I went crazy.

Buying food? Buying food.

I bought so much food, it wouldn't fit in my fridge, and I just sat there, I've

got to eat it now, so I just sat down.

All right, well, he climbed coconut trees, he caught fish, and he swam like

and he was virtually unbeatable in the challenges.

Where did this Aussie guy come from?

Plus, love him or hate him, everybody has an opinion about Jonathan, including

Jonathan. Ozzie and Jonathan are next on the Survivor Cook Islands reunion show.

But first, this is why the Cook Islands are one of the most beautiful locations

we've ever been to.

Ozzy already up with the island names and heading back.

Ozzy is amazing.

He's like half animal, half man.

Go, Ozzy!

Part fish, part monkey.

Ozzy!

Ozzy swimming like a dolphin as he makes up time.

He's kind of like a little jungle boy, you know, climbing these coconut trees

and getting coconuts down, getting fish.

I think we should call him the spider now or something. Yes.

Welcome back to the Survivor Cook Islands reunion show. We are live at

Born to Play is a phrase that we kept using even when we were out on the

with you.

What? Where did you come from? How do you end up with all these bizarre skills

so suited for Survivor?

I just had a very eclectic background.

I loved books, and one of the first books that I remember reading was

Crusoe, and that just sparked an interest in... But how do you learn to

like that and spearfish and climb a coconut tree? Well, it all started with

swimming. We had a pool in our backyard when I lived in San Antonio, Texas, and

I just swam every day. I honestly feel like I was born in the water, that I

learned how to swim before I could walk. I mean, it's something that I've always

loved, and I've...

I felt more comfortable in the water than on land.

And so that just is the foundation for everything that really happens in

Survivor. And so you knew how to spearfish. You had done this before

Well, I had gone out a few years ago with one of my buddies.

It was on his birthday. He took me out spearfishing, just showed me the ropes.

And this is in Santa Barbara.

Devereux Point, yeah.

Went out there one day when there's no waves, and he showed me how to do it,

I just fell in love with it. Just the survival aspect of it just really,

spoke to me. What was the best part for you of this time out there?

Man, the best part, honestly, the whole damn thing.

Everything. I mean, just meeting all these great people and just being out

and knowing that if the situation happened, and I was stranded on a

island, which I had fantasized about ever since I was a little kid, and it

finally came true.

And just to know that all of these childhood hobbies finally came to fruit,

everything that I did as a kid and was really interested in, I finally was able

to use, and I didn't think I would actually do that.

Did you miss this when you left it?

Honestly, I think I fell into deep depression when I got back, and just

everything.

The concrete jungle kind of got to me a little bit. And being out there and

being at humanity's roots, it was an amazing experience because

it's getting back to a primal nature that a lot of us have totally

from. And we're here and we're surrounded by lights, cameras, and we

an idea of where we came from.

Not more than a few thousand years ago, we were all doing the survivor thing.

One other question, because I think you touched a lot of people when you shared

the story with your dad. Do you know, is your dad watching tonight? Have you

been in touch with him?

Honestly, I don't know, but my father is here.

We need to clear that up. Yeah. Be clear on that.

Your father.

The person you consider your father. Yes. He raised me, you know.

And I love him.

Well, as memorable as Ozzy was for his honesty and obviously his physical

domination, Jonathan was equally memorable, but for very different

Oh, my favorite.

I'm here to win a million. A million dollars.

You, me, Becky, and that's it. I thought you and I had a tight thing. We do not

trust each other. What am I going to say?

I promise. What's that worth to you? I'm the wandering Jew without a tribe.

Either I'll have betrayed the railroad people and I'm a complete bastard.

I consider myself a loyal person. Or I didn't jump over to the iTunes people

I'm a complete bastard. Well, Jonathan, you're a rat because you've betrayed

everybody in this game.

That's bollocks and you know it.

Jonathan,

this is a debate with people I run into. Were you a villain or were you just a

good player? Do you think you were a villain? No.

I mean, I think I was antagonistic to other people, and obviously I rubbed

the wrong way, but it was a game. You know, you can't have a villain in a

There's no villain in Monopoly, you know.

I mean, honestly, no, we're all playing the game. There's no villain in a poker

tournament, you know.

So I was playing to win a million bucks. We all were. I was just a lot more

overt about it, and I think I wore my agenda on my sleeve.

What was the family reaction? Because you took a lot of hits, and you're

probably watching this with the wife and your kids.

Well, I warned them that I was going to be called some fantastic name.

You know, and they're like, what do you mean, Dad?

And I'm like, oh, Cancer and Rat and Weasel, you know.

So that sucked, but...

But, no, so I warned them, and I basically said, you get called names, so

We don't call people names. You know, when you get called names, you pick

yourself up, you get bullied, and the truth is that it was in the context of a

game. I know that the people who called me names wouldn't do that outside the

context of the game. They were trying to progress their game, too, and I don't

hold it against them. Some of them went further than me.

Some of them didn't go further than me, but, you know, we were all playing a

game out there.

Did this change you?

Physically, you lost a lot of weight, and you've kept it off.

Did it change you in other ways?

Yes. I feel much more appreciative of the life that I have, of my family, of

people who would not say things to me and who love me just for who I am,

who I am as a complex person.

And that makes me extremely glad that I did this.

Very nicely said.

Jenny.

You and Rebecca got to be a little frustrated because you guys were both

off before Jonathan, who's the guy that then comes back and betrays all the

people that voted you out.

Worst nightmare for you, Jenny, seeing that bottle that Poverty Red's seeing

you're going to vote for me?

Because I think that if I just stopped you and said, well, Jeff, can I just say

one thing, please, in case it's going to be me? You might have been able to

plead your case. Yeah, and I would plead my case and convince them that I would.

going to be the better choice, because I think after that merge, I'm sure maybe

Yule would try to convince me to go with them, and I wouldn't have flipped.

A lesson for you future survivors.

Speak up at Tribal Council.

Okay, he made headaches go away and red dots appear.

He offended people with his ethnic jokes, and he was a true original.

next. Plus, we started this season by dividing the tribes based on ethnicity.

Was it a good idea or not? We will ask the people who lived it. And playing us

to the break.

is Sekou.

He was first off, but so enthusiastic, he wrote a song about Survivor. He is

sitting in with our favorite Survivor composer, David Vandercourt and Russ

Landau.

Cowboy. Got his own system.

Yeah! I've never been accepted by the Asian community.

I belong in a hippie community.

There. You feel better now. Your headache will be gone in a few minutes.

I did have a headache. I don't have a headache anymore.

But I do have a red dot on my forehead.

What do you call a Vietnamese with three dots?

We get it, but a lot of people won't get it.

Typically in life, I'm either hated or I'm loved. I am often misunderstood, but

a lot of people will come to understand that I mean well.

Welcome back to the live.

Survivor, Cook Islands reunion show. You will just want to check for a million

dollars. Cowboy, it's kind of the same question I asked Ozzy.

Where do you come from? You, too, are this crazy mixture of elements. You know

what, Jeff? I've been thinking so hard on this. People ask me, what are you,

what have you learned from this?

All my life, I've bucked the trends, and I've been chastised, I've been beaten

down, I've been told that you're doing things wrong.

You've got to do it this way. You've got to do it this way. You've got to...

Walk here, go A and B and C and D. No, I've been living it my way. And guess

what? I'm here. And this is the culmination of my life experience.

I asked you on the show if you were typically understood or misunderstood.

Do people tend to just not get you at first?

Well, they don't think I speak English.

Do you understand English? And if I just look at them, they say it louder.

You made a comment to me out there about young people.

You don't think kids today are patient enough?

Things are just quicker. It's a quicker pace. I mean, I'm from old school.

I double -check, I triple -count everything.

Kids nowadays, they look at something, they grab it a lot quicker. They can

process information a lot quicker. And I believe that that actually creates a

lot of impatience.

So it's a good way to balance the old way and a new way. You can do that. Some

people nowadays can manage to do both.

They'll be a lot more successful.

than having one or the other. Another thing, Cowboy, will always be memorable

for are your Asian jokes inside the tent at night to which the other people in

your tribe are going, Cowboy, what are you saying?

I always felt like you were trying to say, don't take things so seriously, but

you will.

The question of whether we should have done this or not. We started the season

dividing you based on ethnicity.

Do you think it was a good idea, ultimately?

Because you had some trepidation in the beginning.

Honestly, when I first heard about it, the first thing I thought to myself was,

I've made a huge mistake.

Being on a reality show that might potentially play up racial stereotypes

caricatures. I've got to say, though, I'm really happy and proud of what we

able to accomplish on the show.

Hopefully we might have shown that ultimately it's not your ethnic

that dictates who you are and who your friends are, but really we ended up with

a multicultural coalition that got it to the end. And the fact that we bonded

together was really based on our individual identities and our values,

much our cultural background. So I'm hoping that in some small way we might

shown that it's not the color of your skin that determines who you are, but

your inside self, who you are.

Nate.

Nate, Nate, Nate, on the other end, I read something in an interview where you

and Stephanie and Rebecca, it sounded like we're getting into it because you

didn't represent your group or take care of your ethnic group from the

beginning. Give me the short skinny on that.

Well, basically, we all were divided by race.

I love all my Hiki tribe, Sekou, Sandra, everyone.

But I was called a race traitor. I don't know why, because I think some felt I

was obligated to stick with my racial background regardless.

I was playing a game where regardless of your color, skin, you have to help me

survive.

It doesn't matter if you're my background, what have you. We're playing

Everyone knows how hard it is.

Regardless of, you know, color, what have you, you have to do what's best for

your team. And so I had to turn on girls that I loved and my racial background.

So, yeah, I got comments of race traitor.

Stephanie, what was that?

Well, I just felt that.

You know, I was comfortable in the game.

I thought that I had hickey love for Nate.

And I trusted him. I thought we had a very good, very close relationship. But

did you trust him because you're from the same ethnic group? Absolutely.

I expected him to have my back.

Rebecca, sorry to interrupt you, Stephanie. Rebecca, did you feel the

I trusted Nate more so because of who he is and our relationship that we had. It

had nothing to do with the fact that we're both black. I expected him to come

me when I was under the radar because we were tight.

That was my issue. And it had no, it didn't matter what race or nationality.

you are. If we're close, I expected you to look out for me and let me know

something was going on. That's all. Brad, wrap this up for me. Do you think

general, is there a pressure to represent your group when you do

this and divide people and say, this is your group, your group, your group?

Yeah, there's a huge pressure, especially when it comes to representing

Asian culture. I think a lot of times in media, men are portrayed as like this

waspy, thin, sort of nerdy.

warmish guys. And I think Yul and I did a fantastic job of breaking the mold and

breaking the stereotype that a lot of America have today. All right. Up next,

we're going to be giving away the keys to a brand new 2008 Mercury Mariner,

Candace and Adam. Was it strategy or romance?

We'll find out right after this.

Welcome back to the Survivor Cook Islands live reunion show from CBS in

Hollywood.

Candice, was it strategy?

Was it romance from the beginning with you and Adam?

From the beginning, it was strategy.

I mean, I didn't come out here to get into some romantic relationship. But,

know, as things went along and, you know, I knew I could trust Adam and that

could trust me.

And, you know, we developed a bond and a relationship. And it was, you know,

there was a little romance.

Adam,

what's the status today?

You know, Candace is a great girl.

I couldn't have done this whole experience without her because I really

trust her.

And we did have that connection on the island.

And it was great. And it was, I mean, it was real. But, you know, we have

separate lives now. You know, she's on the East Coast. I'm on the West Coast.

I think we're more just like friends now.

Nate and poverty.

The other couple that when I was out there was a little more, it seemed a

more to me than we actually saw on the show. Nate, was there, were there

feelings?

For Parvati?

Parvati was... Hi, Parvati.

Look at her. I mean, look at her. I can't even say anything. She was warm,

know? Nate, yes or no?

I feel like we're a tribal council.

Yes.

Yes, there were some feelings.

Yes, definitely.

Parvati, strategy for you? Was there some...

You seem to be enjoying Nate's company out there. I love Nate. I think Nate

really helped me get through the game.

At the low points, when Rero kept losing and losing and losing, and I was

getting so frustrated, Nate would always make me laugh, and he always picked me

up, and it really helped me out there. So, yeah, I mean, I depended on him. By

the way, we labeled you as a boxer on the show. And people are, Parvati, what

kind of boxing do you do? I don't even know.

It's called model boxing.

But it's real boxing. I mean, we train in the gym like five days a week. And, I

mean, we're running. We're sparring. I'm sparring with guys and girls both.

We're taking head shots. And, you know, it's legitimate boxing. It's really

quite difficult.

Let's get some updates in here. JP, what's life like after Survivor for you?

What's going on?

Well, shortly after Survivor, I got contacted by the Janice Dickinson

Agency.

I'll be, that'll be appearing January 10th on Oxygen.

Hello, JP.

Christina, what's the reaction from your fellow cops to you being on the show?

Did they respect you more or less?

Initially, there was the joking, you know, like anywhere, because I like

brothers. And then afterwards, there was that one scene with the wrestling

match, and they were, you know, very respectful, and they were very proud of

at that point.

But overall, I guess it was a great time, and everyone enjoyed it at work

You know, they watched it while they were out briefing, and it was fun for

also. Cecilia, you weren't on the show as long as some of the other people.

Do you still get, does this still resonate as an experience?

Definitely. I mean, even...

No, Seikou could speak to that. Even being there two days, it changes you.

We feel all the layers, family, work, friends. It's who you are at the core

comes out in that experience.

And it really is a life -changing, amazing experience.

I'm very happy to have him part of it.

Flicka, the... I love you guys!

You know, the hair is so much a part of your look.

And now after being on a show like this, I'm sure people recognize you for the

hair. Does that become something that now you're in a way stuck with, that you

have to keep this look? I don't think I'm stuck at all. I love my style, and I

just keep on working it.

People just come up to me, and I feel so blessed. They let their kids come up,

and they approach me and tell me how much they love me, and I just have had

nothing but love, and I'm so appreciative to be able to have this

experience with all these people, you know?

And my hair is just good, I think.

And, Billy, I'd be remiss if I didn't point out the obvious, that Candace is

available again.

I just got to ask you, Billy.

I just got to ask you. We're running out of time in this. But not to make light

of it, you had genuine feelings.

I did, but a lot of it had to do with the situation I was in.

Not just physically, but also, you know, it was a lot like, you know, like, I

don't need you guys. I found something else. So it was a lot like trying to

get back and finding something.

So there was a lot of that. But, you know, you're in the heat of the moment.

how many of us haven't stuck our foot in their mouth at some point in our lives?

I just have to do it on national TV. That's all. Kudos to you, Billy.

All right. Well, we have something else exciting to do now.

This season we've been doing a thing online to vote for the survivor who

the most clever game.

The winner gets a 2008 Mercury Mariner.

We've got a little video of that running now right out here in our red carpet.

And once again, this vote was extremely close. And it came down to, of course,

Yule and Ozzy.

I will tell you this, that there were a lot of votes cast, and it was consistent

throughout the voting. The difference was less than 1 % in the votes.

This time, the winner was Ozzie.

We'll take a break. When we come back, we'll show you where Survivor 17 next.

Welcome back to the Survivor Cook Islands live reunion show.

As this season comes to a close, a new season of Survivor is just around the

corner. Here's a sneak peek.

Coming in the new year, Survivor turns the tables on two tribes as

one lives the life of luxury while the other is left with virtually nothing.

For the first time, there will be 19 new survivors.

This diverse cast, with lifestyles ranging from a Harvard -educated lawyer

once homeless street performer, will be forced to battle each other more

fiercely than ever before.

Crawling with thousands of deadly sea snakes, Exile Island will be more

treacherous than ever. This time, two hidden immunity idols and a twist will

drastically complicate the game.

And one of the most controversial decisions ever made by a survivor will

America talk to him.

Who will outwit, outplay, and outlast all the others?

Join us next time for the premiere of Survivor, Fiji.

Tomorrow morning on the early show on CBS, Yule will receive his check for $1

million.

You can own a piece of Survivor Cook Islands by bidding on one -of -a -kind

memorabilia to benefit the Elizabeth Glazer Pediatric AIDS Foundation.

The website is on the screen now. And if you think you really have what it takes

to do what these guys just did and be on the show, go to cbs .com.

Thanks for hanging in there with us for 13 seasons. We will see you in Fiji.

Good night.