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So there's over 2,000 hits
on the blog in… in the past 15 minutes.
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Mm-hmm.
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Yeah, it's a big deal.
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Hello?
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- Hey, Forrest.
- Yeah.
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Hey, I'm sorry to
call you so late.
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Who is… who is this?
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I just wanna know if it
really has been found.
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It has been found, yes.
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Really?
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Uh-huh.
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Um…
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Well, thank you.
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Well, you're certainly welcome,
sir, and good luck to you.
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The hunt is officially over.
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The unfindable has been found.
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Someone has apparently claimed the
Forrest Fenn treasure worth millions.
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I was like, "Holy cow."
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Like, you're joking, right?
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Like, this isn't true.
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I thought, "Oh boy.
What's going on here?"
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The coveted prize,
sought after for a decade,
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now found in the Rocky
Mountain wilderness.
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My phone started dinging and blowing up,
getting messages from all sorts of people,
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and I thought, "Oh boy.
Somebody's making something up."
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But then Forrest put a
message on his web page
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to say that the
treasure had been found
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under a canopy of stars
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in the lush… forest of
the Rocky Mountains.
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It sucked.
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Let's just come right
out and say it sucked
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because all he said
was it was found,
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and there was no other
details to go with it.
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When I spoke
to Forrest Fenn,
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he said he was partly
relieved, partly saddened,
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but there is no doubt in his mind
that his treasure has been found.
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You get an email every other day
saying that somebody found the treasure.
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- How is this different?
- He sent me pictures.
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And is it as you remember it?
The photographs are as you remember it?
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Yeah.
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- Just so compelling.
- Okay.
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I bet it's gonna go fast.
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Tomorrow morning's gonna be
a different world for you.
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It was so frustrating,
and it sucked doubly
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because we had no answers.
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We didn't… we didn't
know where it was.
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We didn't know what the
solutions to the poem were.
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And, of course, the
other thing was...
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Who found it?
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Who found it?
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Who found it?
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Did you find
Forrest Fenn's treasure?
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Did I? Oh man.
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That's a whole different
story, brother.
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For years, I would
see Forrest around Santa Fe,
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and I would always say hello to him
at lunch or whatever, just to say hi,
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'cause it's the way
people are here.
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And then one day, he
showed up at my office,
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and this is the first I'd ever
heard of the chase or the hunt.
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He said, "I've hidden a box
somewhere in the country."
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"Can I get some advice?"
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I was like, "Wow." I was blown away.
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You were like, "This will
not be like a normal client."
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Then, couple years later,
I can't remember exactly,
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Forrest gets an email,
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and it says, "Dear Mr. Fenn,
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I think I found your property."
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I think it lays out, "I don't wanna
go get it without your permission,
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and, certainly, you can tell me
what to do," and that sort of thing.
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Well, Forrest had received
hundreds of emails
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of "Mr. Fenn, I
found your property."
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"Mr. Fenn, I found the treasure
chest. Mr. Fenn, I'm the finder."
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And Forrest always would
say, "Send me pictures."
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"Send me pictures."
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Once we bisected the
triangle, I'm just going crazy
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'cause it's… everything's
kinda synchronizing.
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The F, the cipher,
the blaze markers.
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If you've been
wise And found the blaze
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Look quickly down
your quest to cease
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I'm like, "No fucking way."
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A fucking bear sculpture.
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That's when we sent him everything.
"Hey, this is the art. We're done."
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Blah-blah-blah.
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That night, when we got
back to town…
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…boom, he calls it.
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"Treasure's been found.
Treasure's been found."
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- Right after you had emailed?
- Yeah. Yeah.
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And so, you know,
Forrest made the call,
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and he said, "Let's…
let's disclose it."
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Now we've learned
someone found the treasure
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and sent a picture
of it to Fenn.
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I really wanna know who it was.
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And we're like, "Oh my God."
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"That's us."
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What a day today has been.
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Who found the treasure?
Fenn refuses to say.
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"The guy who found it does
not want his name mentioned."
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He did offer this one clue.
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"He's from back east."
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- This is picturesque, right?
- Yeah.
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♪ We were chasing
the clouds away ♪
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You know, I… I didn't wanna
believe that it was found,
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but… in my heart, I
knew it was found.
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I'm just like… You know,
I… I was heartbroken.
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I don't know what else to
say. I was… I was… I was…
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For myself, for my family.
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But I still wanna know if it was found
in my location, which it could've been,
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see if I was right or wrong.
That would've been satisfying.
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But then, of course,
we got a flat tire,
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had to turn around and
head back to the hotel.
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- Funny.
- It is a beautiful moon.
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It'll be great when we're stuck here for
four hours in the middle of the night.
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Sadly, we weren't the ones to
find it. Somebody beat us to it,
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and I… assume that they went to the spot
I was trying to get to and found it.
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So I don't know any answers
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that helped me just put it to bed where
I don't ever think about it again.
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I still think about it.
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And I'm just hoping there's
some brilliant ending
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that hasn't been told yet.
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That would be awesome.
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See, everybody thought
it was a box of gold
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that they were gonna
find out in the Rockies.
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But what we figured out was the truth.
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We found the bear statue
that was intended to be found
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at the end of the poem in
the Lewis and Clark cipher,
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and I believe that's… you
know, it's a proxy treasure,
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and once you solve
the proxy treasure
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and send him the information
of how you got there,
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then, and only then,
will you be rewarded.
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Kinda like Willy Wonka.
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Charlie.
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- I thought it was bigger…
- My boy.
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…than
just a box of gold.
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You won!
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We just didn't understand why
Forrest hasn't reached out to us yet.
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I mean, he's obviously
talking about us.
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Online, a community of
treasure hunters is going wild.
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Social media, in
particular, is in disbelief.
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This poem was obviously written
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to be solved, uh, any
way you want it to be.
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So, at this point, there's
this large community of people
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who've just spent years of their lives
and made untold other sacrifices,
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and there's nothing.
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They don't learn who found it. They
don't learn where they found it.
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They don't learn, you know,
how close they themselves came.
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There's… there's nothing to just
give them some taste of resolution.
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We didn't have any
answers to anything,
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only that it was found.
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The growing angst in the community
was reaching a tipping point
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where information from Forrest
was becoming almost a necessity.
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I said, "We have to get
information out there
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that would bring people a sense
of certainty that it was over."
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So that's when the
photographs were released.
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Despite the
frustration, I have to admit,
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I felt a… a twinge of envy
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when I saw what
was in the chest.
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Gold nuggets and coins
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and all sorts of things that
were just dazzling to the eye.
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It was a big eye-catcher.
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My first reaction, I think,
was, like, I was angry
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because there's just two
pictures that come out,
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and they're real close up
of the chest with a log,
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and Forrest said, "This
is where it was found,"
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a couple feet from where
it was found, right?
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With no other information.
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I'm like, "What the hell?" Treasure's
been found? We didn't find no treasure.
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So get on there, let's
see what they're saying.
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Where's it been found?
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What can we say? There's
grass. I see wood.
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We have a picture of a chest
sitting on a dry ground
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with no evidence of when
the photo was taken,
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no evidence of where
the location was taken.
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It was all erased.
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Why would they erase all that
if they had nothing to hide?
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Do you see what I'm saying?
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The original picture, the PNG,
the metadata had been erased, etc, etc.
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Oh, come on, now.
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Like… like, some… something is going
on that we're… we're not aware of.
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Oh, let's take some calls.
Let's take some calls.
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Of course, you can imagine
what that looked like to the community.
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People went nuts.
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So I called Forrest.
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- Forrest answers the phone.
- Hello?
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I start crying.
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And he's like, "Can… can I help you?"
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And I said, "Forrest,
is it over?"
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And he's like, "I don't
quite understand."
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I said, "Forrest,
this is Chris Hurst."
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"You very well know who
I am and what I'm doing."
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"Uh, well, yes,
sir. What can I help you with?"
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I said… I told him, I said,
"I'm calling your bluff,"
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and he's like… he's like, uh, "Well,
what do you want me to do about it?"
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He said, "Well, what
do you want me to do?"
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"The treasure's found,"
and he just hung up.
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And that was it.
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That was it.
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It was a defeat.
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We were in such a slump.
We were, like, so confused.
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"What just happened?"
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I begged Forrest to
tell us we were wrong.
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I begged him to.
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You know, he did it for others.
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He did it for other people.
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He said, "No, you're
wrong. No, you're wrong."
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That… I don't understand
that, you know?
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Even after it's all said and done.
Why couldn't he just do that?
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Yeah.
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Why are people
asking me if it's been found
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when I said in writing
that it had been found?
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- These people just don't wanna believe it.
- Yeah.
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They've searched 50
times. They spent a bunch of money.
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- I mean, there's no closure for them.
- Right.
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It's gonna be hard
to keep telling them no.
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There was a
tension building.
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You know, people were
obsessed with a solution,
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and that uncovered a whole
raft of conspiracy theorists.
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Hey, guys, there is a lot
of mysterious things going on,
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and a lotta things
that aren't adding up
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to where and when this
thing was even found.
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The more time passed
without any new information,
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the more conspiracies
were… were flying.
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Okay, we're rolling.
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Was there a real treasure?
Was there more than one chest?
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Had Forrest really
even hidden it?
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Or, in an attempt to
protect his family,
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had Forrest actually sent his
grandson to retrieve the treasure?
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There were so many
people that really did believe
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that Forrest sent
Shiloh to get it.
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I mean, he was
approaching 89 years old,
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getting 100 emails a day,
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and people were dying.
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And so the conspiracy started
that he was ready for this to end.
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Do you believe
there was a finder?
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Um…
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"I don't know" is
the answer, um,
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but it's a good question.
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A lot of people were
saying, "This is a fraud."
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"This isn't how it happened."
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"This stuff isn't true."
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"Forrest is lying."
242
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Ask me one question at a time.
243
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Read it again.
244
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So I said to him,
245
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"Let's disclose the state
246
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because you could… you could get
rid of a lot of folks, right?"
247
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So I thought, "That'll do it."
248
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Right? "That'll get rid
of a whole lot of folks."
249
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Didn't get rid of anybody.
250
00:13:57,753 --> 00:14:02,383
Forrest Fenn still won't tell us exactly
where his famous treasure was found,
251
00:14:02,466 --> 00:14:05,177
but he has narrowed
it down to a state.
252
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Wyoming.
253
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You know, I always thought that if I ever
knew the state, that would be enough.
254
00:14:14,019 --> 00:14:17,314
Hell no! That… that only
made it almost worse.
255
00:14:18,816 --> 00:14:22,611
Immediately, people were
starting to file lawsuits.
256
00:14:22,695 --> 00:14:27,074
A woman who claims she was on the cusp
of finding Forrest Fenn's famed fortune
257
00:14:27,157 --> 00:14:30,494
has filed a lawsuit saying
her solution was stolen.
258
00:14:34,123 --> 00:14:39,336
People became fixated on something
they thought must be true.
259
00:14:40,629 --> 00:14:46,051
And, for me, that
obsession is unhealthy
260
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because it has no end.
261
00:14:54,268 --> 00:14:56,812
The fact it was
over was just such a bummer.
262
00:14:56,896 --> 00:14:58,898
Just so disappointing.
263
00:14:58,981 --> 00:15:02,359
The adventure of my
lifetime had just ended.
264
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Eight years, you know,
later, it was over,
265
00:15:05,696 --> 00:15:07,740
and we still had no answers.
266
00:15:09,992 --> 00:15:12,244
All we got were a
few more pictures
267
00:15:12,328 --> 00:15:14,413
of Forrest, you know,
with the treasure chest…
268
00:15:16,290 --> 00:15:18,667
…and a lot of the pieces
are there on the table,
269
00:15:19,835 --> 00:15:22,004
but it still doesn't
show a finder.
270
00:15:22,838 --> 00:15:25,382
So, basically, it
was just as vague
271
00:15:25,466 --> 00:15:29,303
and as frustrating and
disgusting as before.
272
00:15:30,930 --> 00:15:32,848
And, yeah, it made me angry.
273
00:15:33,724 --> 00:15:36,018
It made a lot of people angry.
274
00:15:39,271 --> 00:15:41,357
We were like, "This
is messed up."
275
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"This sucks."
276
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But then I was so, so lucky.
277
00:16:13,973 --> 00:16:16,809
Forrest invited me
to come to his house.
278
00:16:33,409 --> 00:16:38,038
It was all very cryptic and
mysterious, but I was so intrigued,
279
00:16:38,122 --> 00:16:41,875
so I went to Santa Fe
immediately, and I saw him.
280
00:16:44,461 --> 00:16:46,672
I was just so excited
281
00:16:47,172 --> 00:16:50,634
'cause it's like, "Holy shit. I'm
gonna finally get some answers."
282
00:16:57,349 --> 00:17:00,019
Of course, there was… the
pandemic was still going on,
283
00:17:01,645 --> 00:17:05,482
so he had the… the chairs
out under the pine trees,
284
00:17:05,566 --> 00:17:07,943
six feet apart so you
could take your mask off,
285
00:17:08,027 --> 00:17:10,279
and… and you could actually
have a conversation.
286
00:17:10,362 --> 00:17:12,948
And, um, he was… he was so…
287
00:17:13,032 --> 00:17:14,908
even though he had
just turned 90,
288
00:17:15,409 --> 00:17:19,204
he was so, um, spry that day.
289
00:17:19,288 --> 00:17:21,206
Mentally, physically,
290
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still the twinkle,
291
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the enthusiasm talking about it.
292
00:17:25,502 --> 00:17:27,004
And he basically said,
293
00:17:27,087 --> 00:17:31,925
"You know, Cynthia, you can't ask me
anything about the treasure chest."
294
00:17:32,843 --> 00:17:35,554
"Just be patient." He said,
"I will tell you everything."
295
00:17:35,637 --> 00:17:39,016
"I will tell you the end.
It… it will all come out."
296
00:17:39,099 --> 00:17:41,935
And nine days later, he died.
297
00:17:46,482 --> 00:17:49,818
Forrest Fenn, the iconic
creator of the ten-year treasure hunt,
298
00:17:49,902 --> 00:17:52,571
has passed away
at the age of 90.
299
00:17:56,950 --> 00:17:58,744
I remember
feeling sadness
300
00:17:58,827 --> 00:18:03,123
and some level of
disappointment,
301
00:18:03,207 --> 00:18:06,543
not in him, but just
in the situation
302
00:18:07,461 --> 00:18:14,468
and… the real potential that
the truth may never be known.
303
00:18:18,472 --> 00:18:22,601
I hope, and my intent
of this interview is,
304
00:18:22,684 --> 00:18:25,479
that everything that I say
to you will be the truth.
305
00:18:25,562 --> 00:18:27,523
Not my version of the truth,
306
00:18:27,606 --> 00:18:29,817
not my family's
version of the truth,
307
00:18:29,900 --> 00:18:33,737
but actual fact as to what
happened from my perspective.
308
00:18:35,823 --> 00:18:41,411
My grandfather died on Labor Day
shortly after his 90th birthday.
309
00:18:41,495 --> 00:18:43,872
He turned 90 in August. Yeah.
310
00:18:44,915 --> 00:18:48,418
It was, uh, just a massive
heart attack. It was quick.
311
00:18:49,128 --> 00:18:51,797
Maybe not the way that he
would've liked to have gone,
312
00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:53,173
but not bad either.
313
00:18:55,217 --> 00:18:57,219
I mean, no hospitals, no tubes.
314
00:18:58,387 --> 00:18:59,387
No drama.
315
00:19:02,432 --> 00:19:04,601
I thought maybe this was
the end of the story.
316
00:19:07,938 --> 00:19:09,064
Of course it was not.
317
00:19:14,486 --> 00:19:17,739
I thought maybe that he had
left something in the will
318
00:19:18,365 --> 00:19:22,703
for the person who had solved the
treasure by the proxy treasure.
319
00:19:23,579 --> 00:19:24,788
That was my hope.
320
00:19:26,331 --> 00:19:29,042
So I emailed Karl, and
I gave him our names,
321
00:19:29,126 --> 00:19:32,087
and I said, "Is there
absolutely anything in the will
322
00:19:33,088 --> 00:19:34,798
that's supposed to
be coming to us?"
323
00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:41,638
Dozens of people believed
Forrest had taken care of them
324
00:19:41,722 --> 00:19:43,974
in his will or in his trust
325
00:19:44,057 --> 00:19:47,394
and that they would be
by to sign the documents
326
00:19:48,103 --> 00:19:50,480
and to receive their reward,
327
00:19:50,564 --> 00:19:52,107
and I was like, "Wow."
328
00:19:53,650 --> 00:19:56,486
"Uh, no. I'm sorry. I
don't know who you are."
329
00:19:58,363 --> 00:20:01,074
And that's what… that's
how I got more mad than anything.
330
00:20:01,158 --> 00:20:03,785
I was like, "That's it. You're
not gonna play games with me."
331
00:20:03,869 --> 00:20:05,913
"We ran your cipher.
We ran the poem."
332
00:20:05,996 --> 00:20:08,665
"We went to the X. We
dug there. No treasure."
333
00:20:09,166 --> 00:20:11,126
Bullshit. Bullshit.
334
00:20:21,470 --> 00:20:24,598
There were people that
were becoming very threatening,
335
00:20:24,681 --> 00:20:27,267
saying really vile things to us.
336
00:20:28,143 --> 00:20:29,853
And I remember
thinking to myself,
337
00:20:30,354 --> 00:20:32,648
"I don't know what else
more there is to explain."
338
00:20:35,275 --> 00:20:38,237
It's probably nothing but bills,
but sometimes we get lucky.
339
00:20:41,823 --> 00:20:45,160
This… this is something that's
probably from a… from a searcher.
340
00:20:45,744 --> 00:20:48,288
They spelled my name wrong.
There's no return address.
341
00:20:48,372 --> 00:20:50,540
As a matter of fact, I
recognize this envelope.
342
00:20:50,624 --> 00:20:54,211
This same person has sent me multiples
of these in the last two weeks.
343
00:20:56,421 --> 00:20:57,631
Let's see what it says.
344
00:21:01,385 --> 00:21:04,179
"I'm confused as
to what to do next,
345
00:21:04,263 --> 00:21:06,807
but I keep thinking that
the cats in the book
346
00:21:06,890 --> 00:21:08,809
were skinned and on the roof,
347
00:21:08,892 --> 00:21:10,477
on the roof of a house."
348
00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:13,647
"Your house is your home,
and you 'died' at home,"
349
00:21:13,730 --> 00:21:14,730
in quotation marks.
350
00:21:14,773 --> 00:21:17,109
"I guess we will wait for
something with instructions
351
00:21:17,192 --> 00:21:18,568
telling me what to do next."
352
00:21:18,652 --> 00:21:21,697
"Take care and thank you again
for EVERYTHING," in all caps.
353
00:21:21,780 --> 00:21:22,780
"Me."
354
00:21:25,909 --> 00:21:26,910
Okay.
355
00:21:32,749 --> 00:21:36,920
The Shiloh theory, for me,
still seems like a reasonable one.
356
00:21:37,004 --> 00:21:37,921
I mean, it was unlikely
357
00:21:38,005 --> 00:21:40,507
that Forrest himself would've
gone and gotten the treasure.
358
00:21:40,590 --> 00:21:43,677
Shiloh was sort of the obvious
person he would have get it for him,
359
00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:44,886
and
360
00:21:46,596 --> 00:21:48,056
that made a lot of sense to me.
361
00:21:49,391 --> 00:21:53,687
People are certain that he and I together
went and retrieved the treasure chest
362
00:21:53,770 --> 00:21:55,188
out from under their noses.
363
00:21:56,732 --> 00:21:57,732
No!
364
00:21:59,109 --> 00:22:03,238
In fact, before my grandfather died,
the finder did come to the house,
365
00:22:03,864 --> 00:22:05,657
uh, did introduce himself,
366
00:22:06,408 --> 00:22:08,201
sat on that couch right there.
367
00:22:08,827 --> 00:22:09,911
It was just me
368
00:22:09,995 --> 00:22:13,165
and the two people in the world
that knew where it was hidden.
369
00:22:13,749 --> 00:22:14,875
And that's the truth.
370
00:22:18,712 --> 00:22:21,673
The only request that
was made by the finder
371
00:22:21,757 --> 00:22:25,093
was that his identity
continue to remain a secret,
372
00:22:25,761 --> 00:22:28,722
which, of course, my grandfather
was very happy to oblige,
373
00:22:28,805 --> 00:22:31,016
as was the family, uh,
374
00:22:31,099 --> 00:22:32,142
rightfully so.
375
00:22:35,270 --> 00:22:36,813
But, after a while,
376
00:22:36,897 --> 00:22:40,192
that became a much more
complicated request.
377
00:22:42,736 --> 00:22:45,155
I'm not trying to creep
on your house, man, at all.
378
00:22:45,238 --> 00:22:46,073
I'm not trying to...
379
00:22:46,156 --> 00:22:48,617
I've been watching on
my camera for three minutes.
380
00:22:48,700 --> 00:22:50,577
You guys are out here
literally walking around.
381
00:22:50,660 --> 00:22:53,580
- Yeah, we are. We were.
- Okay, so why are you here?
382
00:22:53,663 --> 00:22:55,791
Um… Like I said, I was...
383
00:22:56,500 --> 00:22:58,936
I guess I just don't
understand what your purpose is.
384
00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:00,800
- What are you trying to accomplish?
- I…
385
00:23:03,131 --> 00:23:05,884
People would constantly
show up at the gate,
386
00:23:05,967 --> 00:23:10,472
and I would say, "You know what?
I'm… I'm really sorry my dad died."
387
00:23:10,972 --> 00:23:15,268
"I'm really sorry that my dad
died and left you hanging."
388
00:23:15,352 --> 00:23:19,856
I'm trying to accomplish,
um, how I complete
389
00:23:20,732 --> 00:23:23,693
what… what your, uh,
relative created, is all.
390
00:23:25,028 --> 00:23:27,465
You gotta give me more
information. I can help you...
391
00:23:27,489 --> 00:23:30,283
- The treasure hunt, basically.
- I mean, it was found.
392
00:23:30,367 --> 00:23:32,119
- And the ending.
- Okay.
393
00:23:32,202 --> 00:23:35,789
Well, we understand… that
that's what they say, yeah.
394
00:23:35,872 --> 00:23:40,419
Please, please, please
just… get a life.
395
00:23:40,502 --> 00:23:41,545
Move on.
396
00:23:43,046 --> 00:23:45,799
And all they care about is why
didn't the family say anything?
397
00:23:47,342 --> 00:23:50,345
You know, back the hell off
for a little while, you guys.
398
00:23:51,054 --> 00:23:53,557
You know, give us some
time, for crying out loud.
399
00:23:54,724 --> 00:23:57,853
Anyway, uh, basically,
we decided, as a family,
400
00:23:57,936 --> 00:24:00,856
that it was better for us
401
00:24:00,939 --> 00:24:02,149
to write a statement
402
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,527
confirming the
identity of the finder
403
00:24:05,610 --> 00:24:09,406
than it would be to keep
his identity hidden.
404
00:24:11,575 --> 00:24:12,576
And that was that.
405
00:24:14,077 --> 00:24:16,204
- Desperate times?
- Desperate times.
406
00:24:18,290 --> 00:24:22,961
Now we know who found that famous
million-dollar hidden treasure chest.
407
00:24:23,044 --> 00:24:26,715
He's a 32-year-old medical
student named Jack Stuef.
408
00:24:26,798 --> 00:24:30,677
This is him after delivering
the chest to Forrest Fenn.
409
00:24:31,261 --> 00:24:32,637
Fenn's family says,
410
00:24:32,721 --> 00:24:36,391
"We can confirm that Jack is the
legitimate finder of the chest,
411
00:24:36,475 --> 00:24:38,143
and we wish him the best."
412
00:24:39,644 --> 00:24:43,857
The day the name Jack Stuef came
out as the finder of the treasure,
413
00:24:43,940 --> 00:24:47,486
it was like, "Who's this
guy? Is he one of us?"
414
00:24:47,569 --> 00:24:50,238
It was like, "Who is
this… who is this person?"
415
00:24:52,407 --> 00:24:54,618
There were people
who cheered for Jack
416
00:24:54,701 --> 00:24:56,912
and said, "Good
job. Good for you."
417
00:24:56,995 --> 00:25:00,123
Uh, and then there was everyone else
who thought he was a terrible person,
418
00:25:00,207 --> 00:25:01,750
thought he was a
tool of the hoax,
419
00:25:01,833 --> 00:25:04,169
thought, you know,
everything they could think
420
00:25:04,252 --> 00:25:07,380
to project their
own theory onto it.
421
00:25:07,881 --> 00:25:13,303
Some student in some bumfuck place
just randomly finds the treasure?
422
00:25:13,386 --> 00:25:16,806
It seems kinda flimsy to me.
423
00:25:16,890 --> 00:25:19,726
100% I believe Jack's a liar.
424
00:25:19,809 --> 00:25:21,561
Jack, be afraid.
425
00:25:21,645 --> 00:25:24,147
I know you. I know
what's happening,
426
00:25:24,231 --> 00:25:25,982
and we're figuring you out.
427
00:25:26,566 --> 00:25:30,153
I think that certain people
just don't buy the ending
428
00:25:30,237 --> 00:25:33,657
because they don't like the
finder. I promise you, folks,
429
00:25:33,740 --> 00:25:37,869
if my grandfather had hired somebody
to find the treasure chest for him
430
00:25:37,953 --> 00:25:42,666
to, uh, remove it from the
community on his own terms,
431
00:25:42,749 --> 00:25:44,876
Jack Stuef would not
have been that person.
432
00:25:47,963 --> 00:25:50,632
But, my goodness,
he was a die-hard.
433
00:25:50,715 --> 00:25:53,009
Boots on the ground
all the time.
434
00:25:53,093 --> 00:25:54,928
Energetic, intelligent.
435
00:25:55,637 --> 00:25:57,097
The guy's a bright dude.
436
00:25:58,390 --> 00:26:00,225
Hey, guys. This is Jack.
437
00:26:00,308 --> 00:26:04,729
This is a new YouTube channel
about the Fenn treasure hunt,
438
00:26:04,813 --> 00:26:07,649
and the topic today
is cognitive bias.
439
00:26:08,775 --> 00:26:11,820
The video of Jack really
did move the needle for me.
440
00:26:11,903 --> 00:26:16,324
It was clear that Jack was maybe
the only person on the planet
441
00:26:16,950 --> 00:26:18,660
who knew the solution.
442
00:26:18,743 --> 00:26:22,455
I'd love to hear your
comments. Thanks for watching.
443
00:26:22,539 --> 00:26:26,376
He also made it clear he didn't
wanna give any further information,
444
00:26:27,377 --> 00:26:29,713
and so the community did
what the community does.
445
00:26:29,796 --> 00:26:31,256
They started digging in deep,
446
00:26:31,339 --> 00:26:35,135
and they found the Reddit handle
that he used from years prior,
447
00:26:35,218 --> 00:26:36,970
allegedly thecondor2,
448
00:26:37,053 --> 00:26:40,432
and that meant I could go back and
garner a lot of additional information.
449
00:26:40,515 --> 00:26:42,976
There were some really
interesting tidbits there.
450
00:26:43,059 --> 00:26:46,855
Specifically, he calls out Madison
Canyon, where I had searched.
451
00:26:46,938 --> 00:26:48,690
He calls out Nine Mile Hole,
452
00:26:48,773 --> 00:26:50,859
where I spent lots of
time with my brother,
453
00:26:50,942 --> 00:26:53,361
and he does so
very specifically.
454
00:26:56,615 --> 00:26:58,533
And so, thanks to the community
455
00:26:58,617 --> 00:27:01,244
and the evidence gathered
from other searchers,
456
00:27:01,745 --> 00:27:02,954
I went back.
457
00:27:03,705 --> 00:27:06,791
I was determined to know where
Forrest had hid that treasure.
458
00:27:08,043 --> 00:27:09,836
This is amazing. Look at this.
459
00:27:11,338 --> 00:27:13,715
I felt that, by
finding the location,
460
00:27:13,798 --> 00:27:15,175
I would actually have
461
00:27:16,843 --> 00:27:19,429
the closure that I
would need to move on
462
00:27:19,512 --> 00:27:24,851
and the… the completion of that
pact that I had made to find this.
463
00:27:24,934 --> 00:27:26,394
My brother always
told me, he says,
464
00:27:26,478 --> 00:27:28,897
"If anybody's gonna find
that thing, it's you,"
465
00:27:29,898 --> 00:27:33,276
and, uh, I wanted to
make that happen for him.
466
00:27:35,403 --> 00:27:39,908
So I returned to Nine Mile Hole, the
place where we had searched together,
467
00:27:40,533 --> 00:27:42,202
to finish what we had started.
468
00:27:43,411 --> 00:27:47,207
But without that ten inch by ten
inch by five inch chest out there,
469
00:27:47,957 --> 00:27:49,584
what is there? What do you have?
470
00:27:51,002 --> 00:27:55,632
Well, I had a heavily cropped
photo that showed some detritus,
471
00:27:55,715 --> 00:27:57,092
pine cones.
472
00:27:59,344 --> 00:28:01,805
And that was about it.
473
00:28:03,139 --> 00:28:05,225
Okay. Into the creek.
474
00:28:09,896 --> 00:28:11,272
Let's see…
475
00:28:14,651 --> 00:28:16,111
if anything jumps out.
476
00:28:25,537 --> 00:28:29,374
I had pretty high confidence that
I was in the right general area.
477
00:28:31,835 --> 00:28:34,546
But knowing the general
area wasn't enough for me.
478
00:28:34,629 --> 00:28:36,756
I wanted to point to
a spot on the ground
479
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,634
and say, "It was sitting
right here, and here's why."
480
00:28:42,554 --> 00:28:44,139
So I kept searching.
481
00:28:46,266 --> 00:28:48,017
Come on. Let's go.
482
00:28:48,518 --> 00:28:51,980
Day after day after day after day.
483
00:28:52,063 --> 00:28:53,064
Yeah.
484
00:28:53,148 --> 00:28:56,192
Twig after twig after
twig after twig.
485
00:28:56,693 --> 00:28:58,945
Just a crazy man
looking for a stick.
486
00:29:07,036 --> 00:29:08,455
But I just couldn't find it.
487
00:29:16,004 --> 00:29:18,131
And did you ever
consider quitting?
488
00:29:18,798 --> 00:29:19,798
You must've.
489
00:29:20,633 --> 00:29:21,509
Yes.
490
00:29:30,769 --> 00:29:32,020
- But did you?
- Hmm.
491
00:29:37,442 --> 00:29:40,612
Slowly but
surely wins the race.
492
00:29:43,072 --> 00:29:44,574
We made it to the bank.
493
00:29:46,367 --> 00:29:47,577
Okay.
494
00:29:49,037 --> 00:29:51,206
All right. Methodical.
495
00:29:51,289 --> 00:29:52,582
Start down here.
496
00:29:56,211 --> 00:29:58,588
Okay. Gosh, it's thicker here.
497
00:29:59,589 --> 00:30:00,965
Gonna check the other side.
498
00:30:08,389 --> 00:30:12,477
Nothing in here looks…
remotely close, to me.
499
00:30:16,773 --> 00:30:18,608
I'm not seeing any matches.
500
00:30:21,027 --> 00:30:22,403
Hello.
501
00:30:24,572 --> 00:30:25,572
Ribbon.
502
00:30:33,498 --> 00:30:35,708
Oh man. I know I'm
right on top of it now.
503
00:30:35,792 --> 00:30:39,254
I mean, it must be just
right in front of my nose.
504
00:30:49,848 --> 00:30:51,349
Wait a minute. Wait a minute.
505
00:30:53,309 --> 00:30:55,019
I gotta compare photos.
506
00:31:05,864 --> 00:31:06,906
Okay.
507
00:31:19,878 --> 00:31:21,129
I think this is it.
508
00:31:26,551 --> 00:31:30,096
In fact, it just damn
well lines up perfect, guys, I think.
509
00:31:32,682 --> 00:31:35,226
I think this is it. I really do.
510
00:31:38,354 --> 00:31:40,189
If you were gonna
put me on the spot
511
00:31:40,273 --> 00:31:44,193
and say, "What are the nine
clues? Walk me through it,"
512
00:31:44,277 --> 00:31:45,277
I would say...
513
00:31:45,945 --> 00:31:48,239
Begin it
where warm waters halt
514
00:31:48,323 --> 00:31:50,742
And take it in the canyon down
515
00:31:50,825 --> 00:31:52,493
That's Madison Junction
516
00:31:52,577 --> 00:31:57,373
as the Firehole and the Gibbon converge
downstream into Madison Canyon.
517
00:31:58,791 --> 00:32:00,084
After that, you were driving.
518
00:32:01,127 --> 00:32:03,379
Not far,
but too far to walk
519
00:32:03,463 --> 00:32:05,798
Put in below the home of Brown
520
00:32:06,799 --> 00:32:10,011
What is home of
Brown? That is Nine Mile Hole.
521
00:32:10,094 --> 00:32:13,556
That is the home of the brown
trout, where Forrest used to fish.
522
00:32:14,641 --> 00:32:16,893
There'll be
no paddle Up your creek
523
00:32:16,976 --> 00:32:19,145
Just heavy loads and water high
524
00:32:20,188 --> 00:32:22,023
From there, it's no
place for the meek
525
00:32:22,106 --> 00:32:24,734
The end is ever drawing nigh
526
00:32:24,817 --> 00:32:28,071
"No place for the meek,"
that is going into the woods.
527
00:32:28,154 --> 00:32:29,697
You're off the beaten path.
528
00:32:29,781 --> 00:32:30,782
Finally…
529
00:32:30,865 --> 00:32:33,201
If you've been wise
and found the blaze
530
00:32:33,284 --> 00:32:35,578
Look quickly down
your quest to cease
531
00:32:36,454 --> 00:32:41,584
I believe the blaze was a tree
that has since fallen over
532
00:32:42,085 --> 00:32:45,129
and that the treasure was
buried at the base of the tree.
533
00:32:46,172 --> 00:32:48,174
Just sitting there
for ten years,
534
00:32:48,675 --> 00:32:50,885
only 500 feet from the road.
535
00:32:54,305 --> 00:32:55,305
That's crazy.
536
00:32:56,015 --> 00:32:57,015
It is.
537
00:33:13,825 --> 00:33:17,495
2016, my brother came
to Yellowstone with me.
538
00:33:20,039 --> 00:33:21,541
We searched this canyon.
539
00:33:22,041 --> 00:33:23,041
We searched.
540
00:33:26,587 --> 00:33:29,507
We searched right through here.
We walked through here. I...
541
00:33:36,389 --> 00:33:38,057
We took a break right here.
542
00:33:48,192 --> 00:33:50,528
I just wish my brother
was around to see it.
543
00:33:57,744 --> 00:34:00,830
But I'm thankful for the time
that we had to search together.
544
00:34:02,915 --> 00:34:04,792
'Cause that's what
this is all about.
545
00:34:09,130 --> 00:34:10,590
So here's to you, Forrest.
546
00:34:14,594 --> 00:34:15,594
Thank you.
547
00:34:20,808 --> 00:34:22,935
That's what life is
all about. Living it.
548
00:34:30,860 --> 00:34:33,613
After Justin
found the nook log,
549
00:34:33,696 --> 00:34:36,074
I was thinking, "Holy hell."
550
00:34:36,157 --> 00:34:40,661
"I'm actually able to go
stand in the sacred place
551
00:34:40,745 --> 00:34:43,122
where Forrest Fenn
had hid the chest."
552
00:34:48,169 --> 00:34:51,547
Those who believed treated
that spot with reverence.
553
00:34:52,632 --> 00:34:56,761
It was like, "That spot should not…"
It's like, "Don't stand in that spot."
554
00:34:56,844 --> 00:34:59,263
"Stay on the outside of
the logs," or whatever.
555
00:34:59,347 --> 00:35:03,851
So, yeah, there was
somewhat of a closure.
556
00:35:04,685 --> 00:35:06,395
But, to my surprise,
557
00:35:06,896 --> 00:35:09,023
the biggest twist was
still yet to come.
558
00:35:11,526 --> 00:35:15,196
Well, you now have the chance
to own Forrest Fenn's treasure
559
00:35:15,696 --> 00:35:17,323
because it's now up for auction.
560
00:35:17,406 --> 00:35:19,784
Heritage Auctions opened
up bidding on Friday.
561
00:35:19,867 --> 00:35:23,871
The hidden treasure
includes 476 gold pieces,
562
00:35:23,955 --> 00:35:25,873
coins, jewelry, and other items.
563
00:35:25,957 --> 00:35:28,376
That auction is open
until December 12th.
564
00:35:29,544 --> 00:35:33,214
At that point, I felt that I
might be in a position where
565
00:35:34,382 --> 00:35:37,176
I could buy the chest, I
could buy the treasure,
566
00:35:37,260 --> 00:35:38,845
and then, um,
567
00:35:40,555 --> 00:35:42,348
re-hide it.
568
00:35:43,891 --> 00:35:46,144
That's… that's
basically it.
569
00:35:48,479 --> 00:35:49,480
Yeah.
570
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:53,734
Kinda makes you wonder
571
00:35:54,443 --> 00:35:58,573
how I'd ever find a ten by ten
by five inch box in the Rockies.
572
00:35:59,240 --> 00:36:02,368
Can't find the Heritage
building in Dallas, Texas.
573
00:36:02,451 --> 00:36:03,451
There it is.
574
00:36:05,079 --> 00:36:06,205
Okay.
575
00:36:07,707 --> 00:36:09,333
- Hi, guys.
- I'm Erin.
576
00:36:09,417 --> 00:36:11,645
- Justin. Nice to meet you.
- Lovely to meet you as well.
577
00:36:11,669 --> 00:36:13,546
- We're gonna go right in here.
- Sure.
578
00:36:15,047 --> 00:36:16,047
Thank you.
579
00:36:20,428 --> 00:36:22,763
If you'd like to
have a seat right here…
580
00:36:22,847 --> 00:36:25,474
- Okay.
- …we can bring the items in for you.
581
00:36:25,558 --> 00:36:28,019
And we're going to turn
the lights off as well,
582
00:36:28,102 --> 00:36:31,731
so you can see the items a little
bit more clearly under these lights.
583
00:36:33,649 --> 00:36:34,649
Yeah.
584
00:36:59,008 --> 00:37:01,385
So you can feel the weight of it.
585
00:37:01,469 --> 00:37:02,470
Jeez!
586
00:37:04,722 --> 00:37:07,016
It's heavy. Imagine that.
587
00:37:07,099 --> 00:37:08,476
I mean, it's so dense.
588
00:37:09,352 --> 00:37:12,230
Wow! I mean, I still see
the original dirt on it.
589
00:37:12,313 --> 00:37:13,564
That is amazing.
590
00:37:14,857 --> 00:37:17,360
Did you guys do any sort of
restoration on it at all?
591
00:37:17,443 --> 00:37:20,321
- Nothing's been done to anything.
- That's fantastic. Oh!
592
00:37:25,576 --> 00:37:27,245
That is so cool.
593
00:37:33,125 --> 00:37:34,126
Wow.
594
00:37:34,210 --> 00:37:35,503
And the rusty key
595
00:37:36,587 --> 00:37:37,755
right inside.
596
00:37:38,339 --> 00:37:41,467
Probably doesn't work in here
any longer. I'd be afraid to try.
597
00:37:41,550 --> 00:37:43,469
- I don't think I'd try.
- No.
598
00:38:00,528 --> 00:38:02,321
Wow. It's pretty crazy.
599
00:38:09,912 --> 00:38:12,331
You don't really realize just
how many pieces there are
600
00:38:12,415 --> 00:38:16,252
until you start laying them all
out. It's just kind of overwhelming.
601
00:38:19,338 --> 00:38:22,341
For the heft, the
two biggest nuggets.
602
00:38:23,342 --> 00:38:25,136
My gosh, the weight.
603
00:38:26,846 --> 00:38:28,806
It's amazing.
604
00:38:29,974 --> 00:38:35,271
And this is an interesting
piece, um, for different reasons.
605
00:38:35,354 --> 00:38:37,523
It's just… it's
just so stunning.
606
00:38:41,319 --> 00:38:43,696
Oh my goodness. Beautiful.
607
00:38:46,365 --> 00:38:48,200
Everything you'd
imagine plus more.
608
00:38:49,702 --> 00:38:51,329
Anything
else you wanna see?
609
00:38:51,412 --> 00:38:54,373
No, I think that'll do
it. Really appreciate your time.
610
00:38:54,457 --> 00:38:55,791
- Thank you.
- Absolutely.
611
00:38:58,586 --> 00:39:01,797
What Forrest created was
something more than a treasure.
612
00:39:03,632 --> 00:39:05,384
It was something magical.
613
00:39:05,468 --> 00:39:07,803
It was something… pure.
614
00:39:07,887 --> 00:39:09,263
It was something…
615
00:39:11,474 --> 00:39:12,600
that captured…
616
00:39:14,602 --> 00:39:15,603
your youth.
617
00:39:16,103 --> 00:39:18,457
- What the heck did you get, son?
- What is it?
618
00:39:18,481 --> 00:39:19,583
- It's gold.
- Show me.
619
00:39:19,607 --> 00:39:20,816
Gold?!
620
00:39:20,900 --> 00:39:22,151
And I wanted a way
621
00:39:22,234 --> 00:39:26,864
for others to experience the
highlights of what I experienced
622
00:39:26,947 --> 00:39:29,909
and to have that
classic adventure.
623
00:39:31,535 --> 00:39:32,453
I didn't, uh…
624
00:39:32,536 --> 00:39:35,456
I didn't want that to… to end.
625
00:39:37,208 --> 00:39:41,045
Is the plan to put it in a
museum first and then re-hide it?
626
00:39:41,128 --> 00:39:42,463
I thought it was re-hide.
627
00:39:42,546 --> 00:39:44,715
I'm guessing maybe he
would do the museum thing,
628
00:39:44,799 --> 00:39:48,094
give searchers who wanted to see
it see it and then re-hide it.
629
00:39:48,677 --> 00:39:50,846
After I visited the treasure,
630
00:39:51,555 --> 00:39:54,225
a verbal offer was
made at that time,
631
00:39:54,308 --> 00:39:57,228
and, uh, it was accepted.
632
00:39:59,188 --> 00:40:01,357
And then something changed.
633
00:40:04,860 --> 00:40:10,074
Forrest Fenn's treasure has sold for
more than $1.3 million at auction.
634
00:40:10,157 --> 00:40:13,494
The treasure was
auctioned off in 476 lots
635
00:40:13,577 --> 00:40:17,289
with more than 1,500 people
bidding on the items.
636
00:40:17,373 --> 00:40:20,709
It was really gutting when it
didn't work out afterwards.
637
00:40:20,793 --> 00:40:24,713
Just this super excitement
to just…
638
00:40:26,257 --> 00:40:28,050
Bummer.
639
00:40:30,594 --> 00:40:34,807
But I'm generally not
deterred by those situations.
640
00:40:34,890 --> 00:40:37,101
There's always a more
creative solution.
641
00:40:38,018 --> 00:40:40,271
What do you mean?
What do you have in mind?
642
00:40:40,771 --> 00:40:41,771
Uh…
643
00:40:42,106 --> 00:40:44,275
Well, there's a new plan.
644
00:40:50,865 --> 00:40:52,741
When you reflect
on the treasure hunt,
645
00:40:52,825 --> 00:40:55,035
and, obviously, you
didn't find the treasure,
646
00:40:55,536 --> 00:40:57,037
what was the treasure for you?
647
00:40:57,121 --> 00:41:00,499
Right, so when you just said
I didn't find the treasure,
648
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:02,042
sure I did.
649
00:41:02,835 --> 00:41:03,961
Ten years of it.
650
00:41:06,005 --> 00:41:06,839
Yeah.
651
00:41:06,922 --> 00:41:08,090
What do you mean?
652
00:41:09,758 --> 00:41:11,260
Look at this now.
653
00:41:11,343 --> 00:41:12,720
My God, here it is.
654
00:41:14,221 --> 00:41:16,182
Ten years after I got into it,
655
00:41:16,265 --> 00:41:18,058
I'm still talking about it.
656
00:41:18,142 --> 00:41:20,269
Um, I still have friends,
657
00:41:20,352 --> 00:41:23,606
so there was… there
was a lot… a lot to it.
658
00:41:23,689 --> 00:41:25,191
Do you regret it at all?
659
00:41:25,816 --> 00:41:29,278
Hell no. Oh my God,
no. No regrets.
660
00:41:31,405 --> 00:41:32,990
Tell you what…
661
00:41:35,034 --> 00:41:36,827
…the treasure is
where you find it.
662
00:41:37,870 --> 00:41:41,248
I mean… I got my family
663
00:41:42,458 --> 00:41:43,501
right next to me.
664
00:41:44,710 --> 00:41:46,504
We had an amazing time.
665
00:41:46,587 --> 00:41:49,590
Nobody died. We're all alive.
666
00:41:49,673 --> 00:41:51,258
Come… come close a couple times.
667
00:41:51,342 --> 00:41:53,886
Yeah, we came close a
little bit here and there.
668
00:41:53,969 --> 00:41:57,723
But, I mean, at the end of the
day, it's all about family.
669
00:41:57,806 --> 00:42:01,060
And my treasure is my family.
670
00:42:03,312 --> 00:42:05,981
The treasure, it wasn't
the… it wasn't the money.
671
00:42:06,065 --> 00:42:09,235
It was about the challenge
and the excitement
672
00:42:09,318 --> 00:42:11,737
of trying to make it come true,
673
00:42:12,238 --> 00:42:13,447
especially for my kids.
674
00:42:14,114 --> 00:42:16,367
How… how often does a father
get to take his family out
675
00:42:16,450 --> 00:42:18,661
and go look for buried treasure?
676
00:42:19,370 --> 00:42:22,581
You live for your family and
the… the memories you make.
677
00:42:22,665 --> 00:42:24,792
And if you don't actively
try and make those memories,
678
00:42:24,875 --> 00:42:27,836
they're not just gonna come find you.
You gotta go find them sometimes.
679
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,172
And this treasure hunt
was one of those things.
680
00:42:30,256 --> 00:42:31,298
We'll see you.
681
00:42:31,382 --> 00:42:33,342
We created a whole
chapter of our lives
682
00:42:33,425 --> 00:42:35,386
that is just really
meaningful and deep.
683
00:42:35,469 --> 00:42:39,223
Like, part of my life
is forever changed.
684
00:42:40,975 --> 00:42:43,310
Me and him never had
a great relationship.
685
00:42:43,394 --> 00:42:45,813
You know, that changed that, so…
686
00:42:46,522 --> 00:42:47,940
It… it got me clean.
687
00:42:48,691 --> 00:42:50,401
Um, yeah.
688
00:42:53,362 --> 00:42:54,530
Came a long way.
689
00:42:56,574 --> 00:42:57,950
That's for sure.
690
00:42:59,118 --> 00:43:01,245
If it wasn't for Forrest…
691
00:43:01,745 --> 00:43:02,871
…I'd probably be dead.
692
00:43:03,956 --> 00:43:05,666
Probably dead by
now or something.
693
00:43:06,375 --> 00:43:07,960
You know, he's changed my life.
694
00:43:09,253 --> 00:43:10,254
Taught me a lot.
695
00:43:16,969 --> 00:43:18,470
I think the only item
696
00:43:18,554 --> 00:43:22,933
that my grandfather ever… regretted
putting in the treasure chest
697
00:43:23,017 --> 00:43:26,312
was a bracelet that he always
said fit him perfectly.
698
00:43:26,395 --> 00:43:29,398
It was a row bracelet,
prehistoric beads from Mesa Verde.
699
00:43:29,982 --> 00:43:33,652
It was beautiful in…
unimaginable ways to him,
700
00:43:33,736 --> 00:43:36,822
and he always said, "I wish
I hadn't put that in there,"
701
00:43:36,905 --> 00:43:38,782
and, uh, fortunately,
702
00:43:39,617 --> 00:43:40,868
it wound its way back home.
703
00:43:42,119 --> 00:43:44,163
- And you'll wear it forever?
- Absolutely.
704
00:43:46,248 --> 00:43:47,848
All right, and
one final question.
705
00:43:48,292 --> 00:43:51,378
Would you ever start
your own treasure hunt?
706
00:43:51,462 --> 00:43:53,297
No, absolutely not. I would not.
707
00:43:53,380 --> 00:43:56,380
I think it would be ill-advised of
anybody to start their own treasure hunt.
708
00:44:00,346 --> 00:44:02,389
Okay, my stick works.
709
00:44:07,561 --> 00:44:08,854
Okay, I think mos…
710
00:44:09,730 --> 00:44:12,483
We're gonna start
that over.
711
00:44:13,901 --> 00:44:16,070
I think most of us can agree,
712
00:44:16,153 --> 00:44:19,448
Forrest's treasure hunt
didn't have the best ending,
713
00:44:19,531 --> 00:44:20,616
but there's no denying it,
714
00:44:20,699 --> 00:44:23,744
the treasure hunt itself
was a true adventure.
715
00:44:23,827 --> 00:44:26,955
So I've just returned from a
different kind of adventure
716
00:44:27,039 --> 00:44:28,207
in the American West.
717
00:44:28,290 --> 00:44:31,168
This summer, I
orchestrated a daring plan.
718
00:44:31,669 --> 00:44:33,420
Not to discover a treasure,
719
00:44:33,504 --> 00:44:36,006
but to leave one hidden
for someone else to find.
720
00:44:36,674 --> 00:44:38,384
This is not a parable
or a metaphor.
721
00:44:38,467 --> 00:44:43,639
It's a real physical treasure
that weighs about 60 pounds.
722
00:44:43,722 --> 00:44:48,644
It's filled with one kilogram gold bars,
rubies, sapphires, emeralds, gold coins,
723
00:44:48,727 --> 00:44:50,187
even a good-sized meteorite.
724
00:44:50,270 --> 00:44:53,816
Of course, it wouldn't be complete
without a piece of Forrest,
725
00:44:53,899 --> 00:44:57,069
so I included some things from his
treasure, like his dragon bracelet,
726
00:44:57,152 --> 00:44:59,780
and it's sitting out
there somewhere right now,
727
00:44:59,863 --> 00:45:01,699
just waiting for
someone to discover it.
728
00:45:01,782 --> 00:45:04,159
So consider this the
start of the race.
729
00:45:04,243 --> 00:45:07,746
The time's ticking, and we all know
true adventure waits for no one.
730
00:45:08,247 --> 00:45:09,247
Good luck.
731
00:45:11,333 --> 00:45:12,333
Uh!
732
00:45:12,751 --> 00:45:14,878
There's one more
thing you should know.
733
00:45:15,629 --> 00:45:19,383
I managed to sneak in some hints during
the filming of this Netflix series.
734
00:45:19,466 --> 00:45:23,470
No one knows what the hints are
besides me, not even the producers,
735
00:45:23,554 --> 00:45:26,348
so it's worth your time to
watch and listen closely.
736
00:45:26,974 --> 00:45:29,309
I think Lewis
Carroll said it best.
737
00:45:29,393 --> 00:45:33,605
In the end, we only regret
the chances we didn't take.
738
00:45:33,689 --> 00:45:34,689
Happy hunting.
739
00:45:47,202 --> 00:45:49,163
What the fuck?
740
00:46:17,608 --> 00:46:21,570
♪ The known world
ends in faded lines ♪
741
00:46:24,573 --> 00:46:28,786
♪ Where certainty
no longer shines ♪
742
00:46:29,369 --> 00:46:31,246
♪ Mmm ♪
743
00:46:31,830 --> 00:46:34,833
- ♪ Possibilities ♪
- ♪ Oh yeah ♪
744
00:46:34,917 --> 00:46:38,754
- ♪ Fall in front of me ♪
- ♪ They do ♪
745
00:46:38,837 --> 00:46:42,800
♪ Every breath, I'm
breaking through ♪
746
00:46:42,883 --> 00:46:44,301
♪ To you ♪
747
00:46:45,052 --> 00:46:47,054
♪ So here I go ♪
748
00:46:47,137 --> 00:46:49,056
♪ Map inside my head ♪
749
00:46:49,139 --> 00:46:53,185
♪ No fear to know how
the journey ends ♪
750
00:46:53,268 --> 00:46:56,855
♪ Oh, what lies ahead
I wish I could guess ♪
751
00:46:56,939 --> 00:46:59,650
♪ We'll see on the message ♪
752
00:47:05,197 --> 00:47:06,615
♪ On the message ♪
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