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I just had some ideas that 2 00:00:23,148 --> 00:00:25,185 I'd been thinking about for quite a while, 3 00:00:25,817 --> 00:00:27,307 about modulation. 4 00:00:28,695 --> 00:00:31,437 It seems to me that there are 5 00:00:33,158 --> 00:00:36,992 different themes in life. 6 00:00:39,206 --> 00:00:42,665 And one of my main jobs, it seems to me, 7 00:00:42,751 --> 00:00:46,665 is to help through the mass media, for children... 8 00:00:47,506 --> 00:00:53,001 To help children through some of the difficult modulations of life. 9 00:00:54,012 --> 00:00:57,221 Because it's easy, for instance, to go from C 10 00:01:00,185 --> 00:01:01,185 to F. 11 00:01:02,729 --> 00:01:05,721 But there are some modulations that aren't so easy. 12 00:01:05,899 --> 00:01:10,518 For instance, to go from F, to F-sharp, 13 00:01:10,696 --> 00:01:13,654 you've got to weave through all sorts of things. 14 00:01:13,991 --> 00:01:16,904 And it seems to me if you've got somebody to help you, 15 00:01:17,578 --> 00:01:20,445 as you weave... Maybe this is just too philosophical? 16 00:01:20,539 --> 00:01:24,828 Maybe I'm trying to combine things 17 00:01:25,377 --> 00:01:28,039 that can't be combined, but it makes sense to me. 18 00:01:34,011 --> 00:01:36,878 Fourteen years ago, a television program for children, 19 00:01:36,972 --> 00:01:41,057 made its inauspicious debut on Station WQED in Pittsburgh. 20 00:01:42,019 --> 00:01:43,885 It's host, Fred Rogers, 21 00:01:44,062 --> 00:01:47,726 an ordained minister with an abiding interest in children, 22 00:01:48,066 --> 00:01:51,604 and an equally abiding belief hat they deserve more from television. 23 00:02:04,583 --> 00:02:07,325 It's a beautiful day in this neighborhood 24 00:02:07,419 --> 00:02:09,205 A beautiful day for a neighbor 25 00:02:09,296 --> 00:02:13,585 Would you be mine? Could you be mine? 26 00:02:14,134 --> 00:02:17,047 It's a neighborly day in this beauty Would... 27 00:02:17,137 --> 00:02:19,128 A neighborly day for a beauty 28 00:02:19,222 --> 00:02:23,432 Would you be mine? Could you be mine? 29 00:02:24,019 --> 00:02:29,264 I have always wanted to have a neighbor just like you 30 00:02:29,775 --> 00:02:34,611 I've always wanted to live in a neighborhood with you 31 00:02:34,780 --> 00:02:38,739 So, let's make the most of this beautiful day 32 00:02:38,909 --> 00:02:42,277 Since we're together we might as well say 33 00:02:42,496 --> 00:02:45,739 Would you be mine? Could you be mine? 34 00:02:45,832 --> 00:02:48,073 Won't you be my neighbor? 35 00:02:49,294 --> 00:02:52,958 Won't you please, won't you please? 36 00:02:53,757 --> 00:02:57,250 Please, won't you be my neighbor 37 00:02:58,804 --> 00:03:00,294 - Mr. Rogers? - Yes. 38 00:03:00,472 --> 00:03:04,306 Where do you live? I live in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. 39 00:03:05,102 --> 00:03:07,309 Did you want to... Pardon me? 40 00:03:07,479 --> 00:03:09,624 They are gathered in this television studio 41 00:03:09,648 --> 00:03:10,729 with Fred Rogers, 42 00:03:10,816 --> 00:03:13,774 an adult who cares just about them. 43 00:03:14,027 --> 00:03:17,816 His reward is the love of millions of children. 44 00:03:18,865 --> 00:03:21,177 I want to tell you something. What would you like to tell me? 45 00:03:21,201 --> 00:03:23,738 I like you. I like you, my dear. 46 00:03:23,829 --> 00:03:26,287 Thank you very much for telling me that. 47 00:03:30,544 --> 00:03:32,501 We had a director that once said to me, 48 00:03:32,587 --> 00:03:35,420 "If you take all of the elements that make good television," 49 00:03:35,632 --> 00:03:39,751 "and do the exact opposite, you have Mister Rogers' Neighborhood." 50 00:03:40,470 --> 00:03:45,681 Low production values, simple set, unlikely star. 51 00:03:47,519 --> 00:03:49,977 Yet, it worked... 52 00:03:50,731 --> 00:03:53,849 because he was saying something really important. 53 00:03:57,195 --> 00:03:59,027 Love is at the root of everything. 54 00:04:00,031 --> 00:04:03,194 All learning, all parenting, 55 00:04:03,869 --> 00:04:05,780 all relationships. 56 00:04:07,247 --> 00:04:09,033 Love or the lack of it. 57 00:04:12,043 --> 00:04:14,831 And what we see and hear 58 00:04:14,921 --> 00:04:18,585 on the screen is part of who we become. 59 00:04:21,178 --> 00:04:24,387 He had a singular vision of kindness and love, 60 00:04:24,890 --> 00:04:28,929 but a question that I think of a lot in terms of Fred is 61 00:04:29,102 --> 00:04:32,766 whether his attempt to influence America 62 00:04:33,690 --> 00:04:34,930 succeeded or not. 63 00:04:45,035 --> 00:04:49,529 I was all set to go to the seminary to become a minister, 64 00:04:49,915 --> 00:04:53,874 but I went home my senior year for a vacation 65 00:04:54,044 --> 00:04:57,582 and I saw this new thing called television. 66 00:05:00,592 --> 00:05:04,631 And I saw people throwing pies in each other's faces. 67 00:05:05,138 --> 00:05:09,598 "And I thought, "This could be a wonderful tool. 68 00:05:09,935 --> 00:05:12,472 "Why is it being used this way?" 69 00:05:13,438 --> 00:05:18,023 So I said to my parents, "I don't think I'll go to seminary right away. 70 00:05:18,443 --> 00:05:20,775 "I think maybe I'll go into television." 71 00:05:20,946 --> 00:05:23,529 And they said, "Wait, but you've never even seen it." 72 00:05:28,328 --> 00:05:33,789 Station WQED is located in the heart of Pittsburgh. 73 00:05:33,875 --> 00:05:37,368 His father told him about this new station, 74 00:05:38,129 --> 00:05:39,460 that was coming along here. 75 00:05:39,798 --> 00:05:43,132 It was going to be called... It was called Educational Television. 76 00:05:46,471 --> 00:05:48,553 Nobody wanted to do a children's program. 77 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:50,472 I said, "Well, we need a children's program." 78 00:05:50,851 --> 00:05:54,264 And I said, "Well, I'll produce it and play some music in the background. 79 00:05:55,146 --> 00:05:59,765 "We'll get some free films and, Josie, you can introduce them." 80 00:06:01,278 --> 00:06:04,691 And then we discovered the awful fact 81 00:06:05,323 --> 00:06:07,485 that when you got free film, 82 00:06:08,326 --> 00:06:11,910 it was often brittle and it would break. 83 00:06:12,873 --> 00:06:16,662 And if you were on the air live, you had to do something. 84 00:06:17,919 --> 00:06:21,082 Somebody had given me this little tiger puppet. 85 00:06:21,339 --> 00:06:24,832 I pushed it through in the clock and said, 86 00:06:24,926 --> 00:06:30,012 "Hi, Josie, it's 5:02 and Columbus discovered America in 1492," 87 00:06:30,181 --> 00:06:31,797 and then just went right back in. 88 00:06:32,517 --> 00:06:37,478 And that's how the puppetry began. We never expected to use puppets. 89 00:06:40,525 --> 00:06:42,937 There's so much of it was 90 00:06:43,028 --> 00:06:46,146 the necessity being the mother of that invention. 91 00:06:47,657 --> 00:06:50,820 My friend, Daniel Striped Tiger. 92 00:06:51,870 --> 00:06:54,282 How do you do? How do you do? 93 00:06:55,874 --> 00:06:58,957 The interesting thing was Dad remembered 94 00:07:00,128 --> 00:07:03,211 being 6 and 7 and 8 and 9 years old. 95 00:07:04,257 --> 00:07:07,545 That inner child never really went away. 96 00:07:09,387 --> 00:07:13,847 I had every imaginable childhood disease, even scarlet fever. 97 00:07:14,392 --> 00:07:17,555 Whenever I was quarantined 98 00:07:18,104 --> 00:07:19,720 I would be in bed a lot. 99 00:07:20,732 --> 00:07:25,727 I would put up my knees, and they would be mountains covered with the sheet. 100 00:07:26,196 --> 00:07:29,405 I'd have all these little figures moving around 101 00:07:29,574 --> 00:07:31,565 and I'd make them talk. 102 00:07:33,662 --> 00:07:36,950 I had to make up a lot of my own fun. 103 00:07:39,209 --> 00:07:41,416 Take that. 104 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:45,621 What's the matter? 105 00:07:45,924 --> 00:07:49,508 Over time Fred became unsatisfied with The Children's Corner. 106 00:07:49,594 --> 00:07:52,382 He thought that it was simple and slapstick. 107 00:07:52,889 --> 00:07:55,159 And he said he really wanted to concentrate on the seminary, 108 00:07:55,183 --> 00:07:57,174 so he wanted to stop for a while. 109 00:08:02,065 --> 00:08:06,684 His ordination was as an evangelist for television. 110 00:08:07,487 --> 00:08:10,605 It was pretty way out there for the Presbyterian Church. 111 00:08:13,284 --> 00:08:14,774 With television, 112 00:08:14,911 --> 00:08:18,620 Fred wanted to focus on the very young. 113 00:08:20,834 --> 00:08:22,416 What do you think it is? 114 00:08:22,585 --> 00:08:24,952 A lion! A lion, great! 115 00:08:28,008 --> 00:08:29,464 Back in the 1950s, 116 00:08:29,634 --> 00:08:31,420 there was a school of people 117 00:08:31,511 --> 00:08:33,093 at the University of Pittsburgh, 118 00:08:33,471 --> 00:08:35,633 looking at early childhood education. 119 00:08:46,818 --> 00:08:50,812 They felt that physicians needed a training ground. 120 00:08:51,656 --> 00:08:54,899 So that, they had a sense of where human behavior 121 00:08:54,993 --> 00:08:56,984 was coming from the very beginning. 122 00:08:58,204 --> 00:09:00,787 Dr. Benjamin Spock was part of it. 123 00:09:02,208 --> 00:09:05,041 Berry Brazelton, the famous pediatrician, was a part of it. 124 00:09:05,295 --> 00:09:08,253 Erik Erikson, the extraordinary psychologist, 125 00:09:08,339 --> 00:09:09,339 was a part of it, 126 00:09:10,091 --> 00:09:12,002 and Fred's part of that group. 127 00:09:12,177 --> 00:09:15,841 He became part of the group as a student of Margaret McFarland. 128 00:09:17,474 --> 00:09:20,011 Fred, I think to the child, 129 00:09:20,351 --> 00:09:25,187 the television program between you and the child is a real relationship. 130 00:09:27,692 --> 00:09:31,151 - For him to say, - "The feelings of a young child 131 00:09:31,237 --> 00:09:35,697 "are every bit as powerful as our adult feelings..." 132 00:09:36,367 --> 00:09:40,076 He was radical. I know everyone says that, but he was radical. 133 00:09:41,206 --> 00:09:43,197 I've always felt that 134 00:09:44,209 --> 00:09:46,826 I didn't need to put on a funny hat, 135 00:09:47,378 --> 00:09:48,618 or jump through the hoop 136 00:09:49,589 --> 00:09:51,921 to have a relationship with the child. 137 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,092 So, I went to visit a new nursery school. 138 00:09:57,097 --> 00:09:59,555 I had never met these children before. 139 00:10:01,017 --> 00:10:03,054 And I walked in 140 00:10:03,770 --> 00:10:06,728 and there was a long stare from most of them. 141 00:10:07,357 --> 00:10:10,975 And one little boy by the name of Thatcher spoke first. 142 00:10:11,903 --> 00:10:14,065 And all he said was, 143 00:10:15,198 --> 00:10:20,364 "My doggy's ear came off in the automatic washer." 144 00:10:21,287 --> 00:10:25,622 And there was silence, just complete silence. 145 00:10:25,792 --> 00:10:30,787 It was as if, "This is your test, Mr. Rogers. 146 00:10:31,089 --> 00:10:34,252 "Are you still in touch with childhood?" 147 00:10:36,094 --> 00:10:38,631 And so I said, 148 00:10:38,972 --> 00:10:42,966 "Sometimes that happens to toys, doesn't it?" 149 00:10:43,768 --> 00:10:45,884 "Their ears come off or their legs come off," 150 00:10:45,979 --> 00:10:48,311 "but that never happens to us." 151 00:10:49,315 --> 00:10:53,650 "Our ears don't come off. Our noses don't come off." 152 00:10:54,070 --> 00:10:55,936 "Our arms don't come off." 153 00:10:56,114 --> 00:11:00,608 Thatcher's eyes were getting bigger and bigger and bigger, and he said, 154 00:11:00,827 --> 00:11:02,659 "And our legs don't come off." 155 00:11:03,580 --> 00:11:05,116 And I said, "No, they don't." 156 00:11:06,791 --> 00:11:09,533 And, immediately, all of the other children 157 00:11:09,627 --> 00:11:12,836 started asking questions and poignant questions! 158 00:11:14,299 --> 00:11:18,418 It was just as if, you know, "We shall now open the door." 159 00:11:18,595 --> 00:11:21,087 "You have passed the test. You may come in." 160 00:11:26,186 --> 00:11:27,972 And what he wanted to do 161 00:11:28,146 --> 00:11:32,310 was to take all of that he learned in television work, 162 00:11:33,818 --> 00:11:37,152 add to that the sense of ministry, 163 00:11:38,489 --> 00:11:41,231 and the child development background. 164 00:11:41,534 --> 00:11:43,992 It became Mister Rogers' Neighborhood. 165 00:11:52,045 --> 00:11:56,755 A neighborhood was a place where at times 166 00:11:56,841 --> 00:12:00,675 that you felt worried, scared, unsafe, 167 00:12:01,346 --> 00:12:06,341 would take care of you, would provide understanding, safety. 168 00:12:06,809 --> 00:12:08,675 That's what the neighborhood was for Fred. 169 00:12:14,025 --> 00:12:16,608 Television has the chance 170 00:12:17,028 --> 00:12:21,238 of building a real community 171 00:12:23,493 --> 00:12:25,200 out of an entire country. 172 00:12:29,999 --> 00:12:33,412 The neighborhood is not a fantasy place 173 00:12:33,836 --> 00:12:36,077 where all these different people got together 174 00:12:36,256 --> 00:12:38,463 and everything was happily ever after. 175 00:12:39,384 --> 00:12:43,127 When you have diverse people together with their different opinions, 176 00:12:43,221 --> 00:12:46,213 you have conflict. And that's what happens in the neighborhood. 177 00:12:46,349 --> 00:12:49,512 You have conflict, real conflict. 178 00:12:52,230 --> 00:12:53,891 Halt, trolley! 179 00:12:54,399 --> 00:12:58,233 Give me your name, rank, and serial number. 180 00:12:59,112 --> 00:13:01,729 "King Friday the 13th 181 00:13:02,198 --> 00:13:05,407 "establishes border guard." 182 00:13:05,910 --> 00:13:08,948 "King Against Change." 183 00:13:10,873 --> 00:13:14,958 The parallels between what is happening in the real world 184 00:13:15,128 --> 00:13:17,244 and what is happening inside the neighborhood 185 00:13:17,422 --> 00:13:19,754 are uncanny and undeniable. 186 00:13:23,886 --> 00:13:26,719 In 1968, the country is at war. 187 00:13:26,889 --> 00:13:29,130 He can go on fighting longer than we can. 188 00:13:29,225 --> 00:13:32,684 Frightened, meow, frightened, meow. 189 00:13:33,062 --> 00:13:34,894 There's nothing to be frightened about 190 00:13:34,981 --> 00:13:37,313 until somebody starts shooting, Henrietta. 191 00:13:38,067 --> 00:13:41,776 Meow-meow, start shooting, meow! 192 00:13:45,658 --> 00:13:47,399 That was the first time he knew that 193 00:13:47,577 --> 00:13:50,569 he was producing something for a national audience. 194 00:13:50,997 --> 00:13:55,992 King Friday was really irritated that people were changing things. 195 00:13:56,252 --> 00:14:01,622 So, his reaction as the authority was to build a wall. 196 00:14:02,967 --> 00:14:05,675 Oh, it's very sharp It's very sharp 197 00:14:05,845 --> 00:14:09,759 Oh, my, barbed wire is very sharp 198 00:14:09,932 --> 00:14:12,299 Remember our battle cry, Edgar? 199 00:14:12,477 --> 00:14:15,014 Down with the changers! 200 00:14:15,521 --> 00:14:18,684 Down with the changers Down with the changers 201 00:14:18,858 --> 00:14:21,475 We don't want anything to change 202 00:14:21,652 --> 00:14:23,859 'Cause we're on top! 203 00:14:23,946 --> 00:14:24,946 That's right. 204 00:14:25,114 --> 00:14:29,233 'Cause we're... At least you're on top 205 00:14:29,619 --> 00:14:32,111 I can't believe what a broad area we covered. 206 00:14:33,122 --> 00:14:36,490 Edgar, Edgar, what do you think he means by "any trouble"? 207 00:14:36,876 --> 00:14:40,961 Fred didn't want you ad-libbing, putzing around with the words, 208 00:14:41,214 --> 00:14:44,502 because he was always trying to get a message across in every show. 209 00:14:46,177 --> 00:14:48,965 I want there to be peace in this neighborhood. 210 00:14:49,514 --> 00:14:52,302 It's been a hard time for everyone. 211 00:14:52,683 --> 00:14:55,892 Well, I really do hope that what you say'll work. 212 00:14:55,978 --> 00:14:57,844 Do you have the tags on the bottom? 213 00:14:58,022 --> 00:15:00,354 Yes, I put them on. Look, see if you like them. 214 00:15:00,483 --> 00:15:02,941 Good. "Love" this one says. 215 00:15:03,361 --> 00:15:06,399 And then we float them over into the castle, 216 00:15:06,739 --> 00:15:10,903 so that Great Uncle Friday will know that the whole neighborhood wants peace. 217 00:15:11,494 --> 00:15:14,657 Paratroopers! Fire the cannon! 218 00:15:14,831 --> 00:15:16,413 Hold it, King Friday. Well, what is it? 219 00:15:16,499 --> 00:15:18,581 They're not paratroopers. They're messages of peace. 220 00:15:18,751 --> 00:15:20,333 Look at this, "Tenderness." 221 00:15:20,503 --> 00:15:24,041 Messages of peace? "Peaceful co-existence." 222 00:15:24,382 --> 00:15:25,502 Wait. You see that one was... 223 00:15:25,550 --> 00:15:28,884 They're peaceful messages, sir. Let us stop all fighting. 224 00:15:29,846 --> 00:15:35,216 Stop all fighting now. Superb! Superb! 225 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:37,426 Meow, wonderful, meow! 226 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:41,980 That was the first week. That's how it got started. 227 00:15:45,653 --> 00:15:48,520 It's a beautiful day in this neighborhood 228 00:15:48,614 --> 00:15:50,571 A beautiful day for a neighbor 229 00:15:50,741 --> 00:15:54,905 Would you be mine? Could you be mine? 230 00:15:56,914 --> 00:16:00,873 From the early days of Mister Rogers' Neighborhood 231 00:16:01,043 --> 00:16:02,875 until the end of that program 232 00:16:03,045 --> 00:16:05,412 he came in the door every day the same way. 233 00:16:07,216 --> 00:16:09,583 Hi. Hello! 234 00:16:10,344 --> 00:16:13,336 And he changed to the sweater to give a sense that 235 00:16:13,431 --> 00:16:15,923 we were going to have this relaxing time together. 236 00:16:16,100 --> 00:16:17,135 Whoop. 237 00:16:17,226 --> 00:16:18,967 Change the shoes. 238 00:16:24,817 --> 00:16:26,603 Some food for the fish. 239 00:16:29,113 --> 00:16:32,231 Picture, picture on the wall, would you kindly tell us all, 240 00:16:32,408 --> 00:16:34,615 is Mr. McFeely on his way here? 241 00:16:34,785 --> 00:16:37,868 My job was to be the prop person. 242 00:16:37,955 --> 00:16:41,448 And then he said, "Oh, I know you've done some acting." 243 00:16:42,460 --> 00:16:45,623 "I'd like you to play the character of the delivery man." 244 00:16:45,796 --> 00:16:49,084 I must go off, Mr. Rogers. I have a lot of deliveries today in the neighborhood. 245 00:16:49,175 --> 00:16:51,633 So, I became "Mr. McFeely" on the spot. 246 00:16:54,430 --> 00:16:56,671 Trolley left for its house... 247 00:16:57,141 --> 00:17:00,259 Into the neighborhood of Make-Believe. 248 00:17:01,687 --> 00:17:04,645 Boomerang, toomerang, sumurang! 249 00:17:05,316 --> 00:17:07,557 Anything could happen in Make-Believe. 250 00:17:08,110 --> 00:17:11,023 But Make-Believe was not real. I mean, there was a distinction. 251 00:17:11,989 --> 00:17:13,946 Fred never appeared in Make-Believe. 252 00:17:14,325 --> 00:17:16,066 The actors did. The puppets did. 253 00:17:16,661 --> 00:17:20,495 There's the clock where Daniel Striped Tiger lives. 254 00:17:22,208 --> 00:17:25,371 Next you see King Friday XIII's castle. 255 00:17:25,711 --> 00:17:30,581 King Friday XIII is one of the few remaining benevolent despots. 256 00:17:30,675 --> 00:17:32,165 These characters are... 257 00:17:33,177 --> 00:17:35,839 Were people in his life. 258 00:17:36,222 --> 00:17:39,931 Queen Sara would obviously be my mom. 259 00:17:40,351 --> 00:17:45,437 I'd just like to say what a fine person my husband is. 260 00:17:45,690 --> 00:17:47,647 Why, Sara! 261 00:17:48,859 --> 00:17:51,601 None of us like to think of Lady Elaine as my aunt, 262 00:17:51,696 --> 00:17:53,607 but we wonder about that. 263 00:17:55,658 --> 00:17:57,740 In the beginning, she was a witch. 264 00:17:57,827 --> 00:18:00,569 I heard that. Here's a squirt. 265 00:18:01,038 --> 00:18:02,528 What can I say? 266 00:18:04,542 --> 00:18:09,708 In a beautiful tree, lived X the Owl and Henrietta Pussycat. 267 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:12,793 Meow-meow, beautiful day, meow-meow neighborhood. 268 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:17,377 And then at the end of every program 269 00:18:17,847 --> 00:18:20,430 we came back to Fred's television house. 270 00:18:20,683 --> 00:18:24,551 And to help children understand all of these experiences, 271 00:18:24,729 --> 00:18:26,845 he put that into a song. 272 00:18:27,398 --> 00:18:30,231 I like you as you are 273 00:18:31,068 --> 00:18:34,151 Exactly and precisely 274 00:18:34,530 --> 00:18:39,400 I think you turned out nicely, and I like you as you are 275 00:18:39,577 --> 00:18:41,739 And children need to hear that. 276 00:18:41,912 --> 00:18:44,199 I don't think that anybody can grow 277 00:18:44,582 --> 00:18:47,916 unless he really is accepted exactly as he is. 278 00:18:51,047 --> 00:18:52,879 I think he was one of those people 279 00:18:52,965 --> 00:18:55,252 who would do their work seriously 280 00:18:55,718 --> 00:18:58,210 and they hope that someone will pick up on 281 00:18:58,387 --> 00:19:00,469 the seriousness of what they're about. 282 00:19:02,224 --> 00:19:05,057 "There were times when he thought, "Will people ever understand that 283 00:19:05,144 --> 00:19:07,886 "I'm not just a klutzy guy who's falling around" 284 00:19:08,064 --> 00:19:11,432 "in a 50s' living room with weird curtains?" 285 00:19:12,443 --> 00:19:17,438 WGBH in Boston decided to have something called a "Mister Rogers Day." 286 00:19:17,865 --> 00:19:21,233 There was just a woman in GBH who was in their PR department 287 00:19:21,410 --> 00:19:24,323 who loved the program, and I think her colleagues said... 288 00:19:25,289 --> 00:19:29,283 You know, I think they thought it was really simple, kind of '50s, square. 289 00:19:29,919 --> 00:19:32,331 And she said, "No, I really want to bring him here, 290 00:19:32,421 --> 00:19:34,662 "and I want families to be able to come and see him." 291 00:19:36,509 --> 00:19:39,126 And the line to get in 292 00:19:39,470 --> 00:19:44,806 was blocks and blocks long before they even opened the doors. 293 00:19:45,935 --> 00:19:48,097 And the word got around really quickly 294 00:19:48,187 --> 00:19:50,975 that there's something going on with this guy. 295 00:19:53,859 --> 00:19:56,317 Mr. Rogers, Mr. Rogers. 296 00:19:56,487 --> 00:19:59,320 I like you as you are. 297 00:20:01,867 --> 00:20:05,280 A little boy came up to him and said, 298 00:20:05,830 --> 00:20:09,118 "Mr. Rogers, how did you get out?" 299 00:20:10,292 --> 00:20:12,124 And so he talked to the little boy, 300 00:20:12,211 --> 00:20:14,168 explained what television was all about. 301 00:20:14,338 --> 00:20:18,548 And the little boy's just taking it all in, going, "Mmm-hmm, mmm-hmm." 302 00:20:19,135 --> 00:20:23,720 And when Fred finished he said the little boy said, 303 00:20:24,348 --> 00:20:26,555 "How are you gonna get back in?" 304 00:20:33,315 --> 00:20:37,024 There was a whole spiritual dimension to his work 305 00:20:37,194 --> 00:20:41,153 in the television business to be inclusive. 306 00:20:41,490 --> 00:20:43,197 He did this without ever 307 00:20:43,367 --> 00:20:46,985 identifying himself as a minister. 308 00:20:49,039 --> 00:20:51,201 He didn't wear a collar. He wore a sweater. 309 00:20:53,169 --> 00:20:56,127 And he preached in that context 310 00:20:57,256 --> 00:21:00,248 in a way more effective than anyone I've ever seen, 311 00:21:00,426 --> 00:21:05,011 because it wasn't a sermon like an oratorical thing. 312 00:21:05,181 --> 00:21:08,799 It was a communication right into their hearts. 313 00:21:13,731 --> 00:21:16,143 He was a life-long registered Republican 314 00:21:16,901 --> 00:21:20,360 and if you look at the values that Mr. Rogers represented, 315 00:21:20,529 --> 00:21:22,236 it's influenced by his faith. 316 00:21:22,698 --> 00:21:26,566 His Christianity was this kind of wide open Christianity 317 00:21:26,660 --> 00:21:29,778 that was accepting thinking from all other places 318 00:21:30,122 --> 00:21:33,490 while never departing from the Christian faith. 319 00:21:35,377 --> 00:21:39,245 Fred's theology was love your neighbor and love yourself. 320 00:21:40,424 --> 00:21:43,712 And he saw that communication 321 00:21:43,803 --> 00:21:47,216 as the most deeply spiritual thing that he could be doing. 322 00:21:52,436 --> 00:21:56,646 - When I look at the camera, - I think of one person. 323 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:01,859 Not any specific person, but one person. 324 00:22:01,946 --> 00:22:04,438 It's very, very personal. 325 00:22:07,910 --> 00:22:10,447 The space between the television screen 326 00:22:10,538 --> 00:22:12,950 and whoever happens to be receiving it, 327 00:22:13,332 --> 00:22:15,994 I consider that very holy ground. 328 00:22:17,837 --> 00:22:21,580 A lot happens. A lot happens there. 329 00:22:28,973 --> 00:22:33,592 For somebody that was in television he was just... He hated television. 330 00:22:37,481 --> 00:22:39,722 Here, buddy, it's all yours. 331 00:22:40,693 --> 00:22:43,811 Wow! Look at this! Hey, what about me? 332 00:22:44,488 --> 00:22:48,607 In this country, the child is appreciated for what he will be. 333 00:22:49,159 --> 00:22:52,652 He will be a great consumer some day. 334 00:22:53,497 --> 00:22:56,740 The quicker we can get them to go out and buy, the better. 335 00:22:57,501 --> 00:22:59,742 There's so much of that in this country. 336 00:23:00,754 --> 00:23:04,418 Mr. Ellison, I think you have felt strongly about some aspects of this. 337 00:23:05,301 --> 00:23:10,091 Public television could make a contribution. 338 00:23:10,347 --> 00:23:15,342 As the American people becomes aware of itself, 339 00:23:15,853 --> 00:23:17,389 it discovers itself. 340 00:23:18,188 --> 00:23:22,898 We do not know as much as we should know about who we are, 341 00:23:23,569 --> 00:23:25,810 what we are, and how we differ. 342 00:23:26,572 --> 00:23:29,280 How will Man use his miracles? 343 00:23:30,034 --> 00:23:33,527 The answer just begins with public television. 344 00:23:34,163 --> 00:23:38,327 We want most of all to enrich Man's spirit 345 00:23:39,335 --> 00:23:41,497 and that is the purpose of this act. 346 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:51,879 And then Nixon became president and he wanted to cut the funding. 347 00:23:53,182 --> 00:23:54,968 The beginnings of PBS 348 00:23:55,059 --> 00:23:57,517 was gonna probably be dismantled 349 00:23:57,686 --> 00:24:01,224 by Richard Nixon, whose approach to media 350 00:24:01,398 --> 00:24:04,311 was to threaten stations 351 00:24:04,526 --> 00:24:07,609 if they didn't behave politically. 352 00:24:08,197 --> 00:24:10,609 Nixon had a problem with his budget. 353 00:24:10,783 --> 00:24:12,899 He had to find money for the Vietnam War. 354 00:24:12,993 --> 00:24:14,984 It wasn't a lot of money in today's terms, 355 00:24:15,371 --> 00:24:16,736 but he wanted to cut the budget. 356 00:24:17,039 --> 00:24:21,954 In the midst of all this, Fred Rogers gets to go before Congress, 357 00:24:22,127 --> 00:24:25,916 argue for $20 million of funding 358 00:24:26,090 --> 00:24:28,377 to sort of solidify PBS, 359 00:24:28,717 --> 00:24:32,381 in front of John Pastore, who is a senator who had already 360 00:24:32,471 --> 00:24:36,590 sort of made his Congressional bones by attacking television. 361 00:24:36,892 --> 00:24:39,099 This is gonna be a thorough hearing. 362 00:24:39,269 --> 00:24:42,478 This is gonna be a hearing not to reach for a headline, 363 00:24:42,648 --> 00:24:44,514 but to reach for a result. 364 00:24:45,150 --> 00:24:49,269 There had been two days of hearings and he hasn't been very impressed. 365 00:24:49,363 --> 00:24:51,354 If you'd been watching those hearings 366 00:24:51,490 --> 00:24:52,901 and you had to bet on whether or not 367 00:24:52,992 --> 00:24:54,608 PBS was going to keep going... No! 368 00:24:54,702 --> 00:24:57,615 That educational television should permanently struggle 369 00:24:57,788 --> 00:24:59,495 for subsistence is intolerable. 370 00:24:59,915 --> 00:25:01,906 All right, who's the next witness? 371 00:25:02,918 --> 00:25:05,250 Senator Pastore told the group, 372 00:25:05,337 --> 00:25:07,954 "I've heard everybody read your testimonies." 373 00:25:08,132 --> 00:25:11,500 "I don't want anyone to read anymore. I'm tired of hearing the reading." 374 00:25:11,593 --> 00:25:14,836 When I heard about that I thought, "Uh-oh, Fred." 375 00:25:15,139 --> 00:25:17,130 All right, Rogers, you've got the floor. 376 00:25:18,934 --> 00:25:22,973 And I could hear in his voice, the nerves. 377 00:25:23,772 --> 00:25:25,479 Senator Pastore, 378 00:25:26,859 --> 00:25:29,647 this is a philosophical statement 379 00:25:30,029 --> 00:25:32,691 and would take about ten minutes to read. 380 00:25:32,781 --> 00:25:33,987 So, I'll not do that. 381 00:25:36,201 --> 00:25:39,785 One of the first things that a child learns 382 00:25:39,955 --> 00:25:42,242 in a healthy family is trust. 383 00:25:42,958 --> 00:25:46,747 And I trust what you have said, that you will read this. 384 00:25:47,046 --> 00:25:51,665 It's very important to me. I care deeply about children. 385 00:25:52,551 --> 00:25:55,669 My first children... Will it make you happy if you read it? 386 00:25:56,638 --> 00:25:58,299 I'd just like to talk about it, 387 00:25:58,390 --> 00:25:59,710 if it's all right. All right, sir. 388 00:26:00,476 --> 00:26:01,887 This is what I give, 389 00:26:02,061 --> 00:26:06,180 I give an expression of care every day to each child 390 00:26:06,857 --> 00:26:09,940 to help him realize that he is unique. 391 00:26:10,652 --> 00:26:12,643 I end the program by saying, 392 00:26:12,988 --> 00:26:17,607 "You've made this day a special day by just you're being you." 393 00:26:18,202 --> 00:26:21,194 "There's no person in the whole world like you." 394 00:26:21,663 --> 00:26:24,200 "And I like you just the way you are." 395 00:26:24,458 --> 00:26:27,576 And I feel that if we, in public television, 396 00:26:27,878 --> 00:26:31,166 can only make it clear 397 00:26:31,715 --> 00:26:36,300 that feelings are mention-able and manageable, 398 00:26:36,553 --> 00:26:38,339 we will have done a great service. 399 00:26:41,100 --> 00:26:43,637 Could I tell you the words of one of the songs, 400 00:26:43,727 --> 00:26:45,559 which I feel is very important? 401 00:26:45,729 --> 00:26:46,729 Yes. 402 00:26:47,523 --> 00:26:50,936 This has to do with that good feeling of control, 403 00:26:51,110 --> 00:26:55,820 which I feel that children need to know is there. 404 00:26:56,073 --> 00:26:59,566 And it starts out, "What do you do with the mad that you feel?" 405 00:26:59,743 --> 00:27:02,235 And that first line came straight from a child. 406 00:27:02,579 --> 00:27:05,116 I work with children, doing puppets 407 00:27:05,290 --> 00:27:09,750 in very personal communication with small groups. 408 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,082 "What do you do with the mad that you feel" 409 00:27:12,256 --> 00:27:14,588 "when you feel so mad you could bite?" 410 00:27:14,967 --> 00:27:18,585 "When the whole wide world seems oh-so-wrong" 411 00:27:18,762 --> 00:27:21,174 "and nothing you do seems very right?" 412 00:27:22,558 --> 00:27:24,720 "It's great to be able to stop" 413 00:27:25,144 --> 00:27:27,511 "when you've planned a thing that's wrong" 414 00:27:27,980 --> 00:27:31,314 "and be able to do something else instead" 415 00:27:31,483 --> 00:27:33,440 "and think this song," 416 00:27:33,610 --> 00:27:37,774 "I can stop when I want to, can stop when I wish," 417 00:27:37,948 --> 00:27:40,406 "can stop, stop, stop any time." 418 00:27:40,617 --> 00:27:43,735 "Know that there's something deep inside" 419 00:27:43,912 --> 00:27:46,449 "that helps us become what we can." 420 00:27:48,458 --> 00:27:51,996 I think it's wonderful. I think it's wonderful. 421 00:27:53,672 --> 00:27:56,710 Looks like you just earned the $20 million. 422 00:28:06,810 --> 00:28:09,598 Fred Rogers is easily the star of the show 423 00:28:09,771 --> 00:28:11,478 and if children had votes, 424 00:28:11,648 --> 00:28:13,980 public television would be on Easy Street tomorrow. 425 00:28:17,654 --> 00:28:19,144 Oh, wow! 426 00:28:19,615 --> 00:28:21,982 Everything just sort of exploded. 427 00:28:22,659 --> 00:28:26,527 You know, suddenly there was press beating a path to our door. 428 00:28:27,831 --> 00:28:30,072 Good evening. I was in Pittsburgh a few days ago 429 00:28:30,334 --> 00:28:33,326 doing a bit of investigative reporting on a man named Fred Rogers. 430 00:28:33,462 --> 00:28:36,830 Meow-meow-meow wonderful! Meow! 431 00:28:37,049 --> 00:28:40,508 Mr. Rogers does ten different voices, for ten different puppets. 432 00:28:40,677 --> 00:28:43,669 Well, a copperhead is poisonous, is it not? 433 00:28:44,514 --> 00:28:47,552 He writes, he's the producer, he's the chief performer, 434 00:28:47,643 --> 00:28:49,054 and he is a marvel. 435 00:28:49,853 --> 00:28:51,719 Fred Rogers, as best I can tell, 436 00:28:51,897 --> 00:28:54,559 has managed to escape the calloused, the embittered, 437 00:28:54,691 --> 00:28:57,558 the negative aspects of being a public performer. 438 00:28:58,153 --> 00:29:00,861 He is doing the one thing in the world that he wishes to do 439 00:29:01,323 --> 00:29:04,111 and he is by any definition a happy man. 440 00:29:14,253 --> 00:29:17,416 I sometimes wonder myself how he ticked. 441 00:29:18,048 --> 00:29:22,884 It's a little tough for me to have the... Almost the second Christ as my dad. 442 00:29:24,263 --> 00:29:25,924 if we were at the dinner table, 443 00:29:26,014 --> 00:29:27,880 and he would want to say something 444 00:29:28,058 --> 00:29:31,926 that wasn't necessarily Mr. Rogers-like, 445 00:29:32,896 --> 00:29:36,890 he would say it in Lady Elaine Fairchilde's voice. 446 00:29:37,192 --> 00:29:40,480 Get out here, Friday. I need to speak with you. 447 00:29:40,737 --> 00:29:44,401 That was our cue that this is the alter-ego speaking now, 448 00:29:44,574 --> 00:29:46,906 you know, and just letting off a little steam. 449 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:54,369 He and I both had childhoods that you weren't allowed to be angry. 450 00:29:55,711 --> 00:29:57,577 You weren't allowed to show your anger. 451 00:29:59,965 --> 00:30:02,252 And we were never able to do it. 452 00:30:03,927 --> 00:30:05,509 It scared us. 453 00:30:09,766 --> 00:30:12,178 Music was my first language. 454 00:30:14,604 --> 00:30:16,971 I was scared to use words. 455 00:30:18,817 --> 00:30:21,058 I didn't want to be a bad boy. 456 00:30:21,945 --> 00:30:24,607 I didn't want to tell people that I was angry. 457 00:30:28,243 --> 00:30:30,575 But I could show it through 458 00:30:31,580 --> 00:30:34,447 the way I would play on the piano. 459 00:30:35,292 --> 00:30:39,286 I could literally laugh or cry 460 00:30:39,463 --> 00:30:42,751 or be very angry through the ends of my fingers. 461 00:30:49,181 --> 00:30:52,139 I've always felt that you were someone who could understand 462 00:30:52,309 --> 00:30:54,926 the deep feelings or thoughts of people. 463 00:30:55,437 --> 00:30:59,146 Well, it took me so long to get tame. 464 00:30:59,483 --> 00:31:03,317 I try to understand how everybody else is working at it. 465 00:31:03,653 --> 00:31:05,235 Sometimes it isn't easy. 466 00:31:05,322 --> 00:31:08,155 No, but it's worth a try. 467 00:31:08,992 --> 00:31:10,949 Daniel was pretty much Fred. 468 00:31:12,788 --> 00:31:17,703 He did all the voices, but I think Daniel was 469 00:31:18,460 --> 00:31:19,996 the real Fred. 470 00:31:22,047 --> 00:31:26,416 Maybe I could talk about clocks and loving, 471 00:31:26,885 --> 00:31:28,375 and things like that. 472 00:31:28,553 --> 00:31:30,635 "A, B, C, D," 473 00:31:30,806 --> 00:31:33,889 "F, G, J, K, L, M, S..." 474 00:31:34,059 --> 00:31:38,018 Oh, Lady Aberlin, I just can't go to school tomorrow! 475 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:39,970 Why not, Daniel? 476 00:31:40,065 --> 00:31:42,432 Because I don't know everything. 477 00:31:43,860 --> 00:31:45,976 Daniel is articulating 478 00:31:46,446 --> 00:31:49,108 the fears and anxieties and feelings 479 00:31:49,699 --> 00:31:52,191 that Fred had as a child, 480 00:31:53,036 --> 00:31:54,822 but that many children have. 481 00:31:59,209 --> 00:32:02,827 He never forgot how vulnerable it was to be a kid. 482 00:32:03,171 --> 00:32:05,082 You know, you're this little thing. 483 00:32:05,173 --> 00:32:07,881 Everything else in the world is bigger than you are 484 00:32:08,260 --> 00:32:11,878 and you have to learn everything that helps you get through life. 485 00:32:14,724 --> 00:32:17,386 L think that it just never left him. 486 00:32:17,477 --> 00:32:20,094 Whatever those scars of his life were, 487 00:32:20,439 --> 00:32:24,228 he wanted to help heal that wound, maybe? 488 00:32:25,902 --> 00:32:29,190 It's a lot easier even as an adult 489 00:32:30,699 --> 00:32:33,908 for me to have Daniel say, 490 00:32:34,744 --> 00:32:36,610 "I'm really scared." 491 00:32:38,248 --> 00:32:40,740 "Do you think maybe you could give me a hug?" 492 00:32:41,293 --> 00:32:44,081 You know? But that would be hard for me to say, 493 00:32:44,254 --> 00:32:46,494 "I'm really scared. Do you think you could give me a hug?" 494 00:32:46,590 --> 00:32:50,254 So, the difference from here to here, 495 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:52,842 that doesn't seem very far, 496 00:32:53,430 --> 00:32:58,266 but it was efficacious, 497 00:32:58,435 --> 00:32:59,550 to say the least. 498 00:32:59,978 --> 00:33:03,596 A car ran over the jaw of your cat? Mmm-hmm. 499 00:33:04,232 --> 00:33:06,564 And what happened? It was bleeding. 500 00:33:07,819 --> 00:33:08,980 Oh. 501 00:33:10,113 --> 00:33:13,572 They tried and fixed it, but they fixed it 502 00:33:13,742 --> 00:33:16,404 for a half a day, but then it died. 503 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,452 But then it died? Mmm-hmm. 504 00:33:19,623 --> 00:33:22,206 Oh, I think that's scary. 505 00:33:23,293 --> 00:33:28,504 All you had to do was see Fred inhabit Daniel 506 00:33:29,341 --> 00:33:33,084 to really kind of figure it out. I mean, they were symbiotic. 507 00:33:34,638 --> 00:33:37,801 As strange as it is to see a grown man 508 00:33:38,141 --> 00:33:41,304 have a symbiotic relationship with kind of a dingy, 509 00:33:41,561 --> 00:33:45,145 you know, worn out little sock puppet, he definitely had that. 510 00:33:45,857 --> 00:33:48,144 Would you give me a hug? 511 00:33:49,778 --> 00:33:52,861 Thank you. 'Cause I needed that. 512 00:33:55,450 --> 00:33:58,442 I better go back in the case, Mr. Rogers. 513 00:33:58,828 --> 00:34:00,159 Okay, Daniel. 514 00:34:00,497 --> 00:34:04,661 He's really nice. You could talk to him. Okay, Daniel. 515 00:34:10,173 --> 00:34:12,915 Just a minute. I want to show you something. 516 00:34:13,510 --> 00:34:14,796 Okay. 517 00:34:16,221 --> 00:34:17,837 Wonder what? 518 00:34:19,558 --> 00:34:22,016 It's a balloon. Oh, a balloon. 519 00:34:22,143 --> 00:34:25,010 Could you blow it up for me? Surely. 520 00:34:30,193 --> 00:34:33,902 So, this is the first year of Mister Rogers' Neighborhood. 521 00:34:34,698 --> 00:34:38,487 Daniel Striped Tiger is there with Lady Aberlin 522 00:34:38,660 --> 00:34:41,869 asking her to blow a balloon up and then let the air out. 523 00:34:42,872 --> 00:34:45,364 You wonder why this is in there. 524 00:34:49,337 --> 00:34:52,045 But they can't hear. Can you hear on any of these? 525 00:34:54,217 --> 00:34:56,254 There's something I want to ask you. 526 00:34:57,596 --> 00:34:59,928 What does "assassination" mean? 527 00:35:02,058 --> 00:35:04,891 What happened? Do you know? Somebody said he's been shot. 528 00:35:05,937 --> 00:35:08,804 Let's roll some video tape on this out here, friends. 529 00:35:10,066 --> 00:35:12,728 Have you heard that word a lot today? 530 00:35:13,403 --> 00:35:17,146 Yes. And I didn't know what it meant. 531 00:35:18,450 --> 00:35:19,861 Well... 532 00:35:21,578 --> 00:35:23,285 It means 533 00:35:25,248 --> 00:35:27,580 somebody getting killed 534 00:35:29,544 --> 00:35:32,536 in a sort of surprise way. 535 00:35:32,797 --> 00:35:34,504 That's what happened, you know. 536 00:35:34,591 --> 00:35:36,878 That man killed that other man. 537 00:35:37,886 --> 00:35:40,594 A lot of people are sad 538 00:35:41,097 --> 00:35:42,883 and scared about it, you know. 539 00:35:43,558 --> 00:35:46,141 I'd rather talk about it some other day. 540 00:35:46,936 --> 00:35:48,392 Whenever you like. 541 00:35:53,068 --> 00:35:56,231 I felt that I had to speak to the families 542 00:35:56,321 --> 00:35:58,062 of our country about grief. 543 00:36:06,498 --> 00:36:10,082 A plea not to leave the children isolated 544 00:36:10,335 --> 00:36:14,545 and at the mercy of their own fantasies of loss and destruction. 545 00:36:19,302 --> 00:36:22,260 Children have very deep feelings 546 00:36:22,597 --> 00:36:24,634 just the way parents do, 547 00:36:25,475 --> 00:36:28,342 just the way everybody does. 548 00:36:29,813 --> 00:36:32,771 And our striving 549 00:36:33,274 --> 00:36:35,481 to understand those feelings 550 00:36:35,944 --> 00:36:38,356 and to better respond to them 551 00:36:39,614 --> 00:36:43,608 is what I feel is a most important task in our world. 552 00:36:51,334 --> 00:36:54,372 He realized that if he really wanted to communicate, 553 00:36:54,546 --> 00:36:58,540 the most important thing is to listen. 554 00:36:59,092 --> 00:37:02,301 'Cause there's so many people who will just lump 'em all together 555 00:37:02,846 --> 00:37:07,181 and say, "Hey, kids, come along. We'll see the next cartoon." 556 00:37:07,726 --> 00:37:11,435 And they couldn't care less about what that cartoon is saying 557 00:37:11,521 --> 00:37:14,980 to the child about such things as human dignity. 558 00:37:27,203 --> 00:37:29,911 Remember what was happening for children's television? 559 00:37:30,415 --> 00:37:32,076 It was speeding up. 560 00:37:32,417 --> 00:37:35,034 Fred was pretty radical in television for that day 561 00:37:35,211 --> 00:37:38,624 in that he used time totally differently. 562 00:37:45,096 --> 00:37:49,841 To Fred, silence was his delight. 563 00:38:04,783 --> 00:38:08,026 Fred took an egg timer and said, 564 00:38:08,119 --> 00:38:11,039 "Do you want to know how long a minute is? There. We're going to show you." 565 00:38:14,083 --> 00:38:17,292 And we just sat there for the whole minute. 566 00:38:20,799 --> 00:38:23,166 There's a lot of slow space. 567 00:38:23,635 --> 00:38:25,091 There's no wasted space. 568 00:38:27,639 --> 00:38:29,095 In. 569 00:38:31,601 --> 00:38:33,057 Out. 570 00:38:39,317 --> 00:38:43,606 L think silence is one of the greatest gifts that we have. 571 00:38:50,161 --> 00:38:53,620 His questions are direct, simple, short, 572 00:38:54,290 --> 00:38:55,576 and then he waits. 573 00:38:56,459 --> 00:38:58,120 He interviewed me 574 00:38:58,628 --> 00:39:02,496 and he put his face about 3 inches away from my face, 575 00:39:03,132 --> 00:39:06,466 says, "It's so nice to see you" 576 00:39:06,845 --> 00:39:09,007 "and to be with you." 577 00:39:09,347 --> 00:39:12,214 It scared the living daylights out of me. 578 00:39:12,976 --> 00:39:17,095 But I realized this is what children do with adults. 579 00:39:18,022 --> 00:39:22,812 And sometimes after they answer, he doesn't say anything else. 580 00:39:22,986 --> 00:39:24,727 So, they say a little bit more. 581 00:39:24,821 --> 00:39:27,859 It's a perfect interviewing trick. 582 00:39:30,994 --> 00:39:35,989 Very funny! Very funny. I'm not falling for it. Very good. 583 00:39:46,885 --> 00:39:51,220 Handyman Negri and Officer Clemmons, I presume! 584 00:39:51,389 --> 00:39:53,346 Correct as always, Your Highness. 585 00:39:53,516 --> 00:39:57,680 Could we take a close look at your badge here, Officer Clemmons? 586 00:39:57,854 --> 00:40:01,188 My friends I think can read it. 587 00:40:01,357 --> 00:40:03,849 P-O-L-I-C-E. 588 00:40:04,903 --> 00:40:07,019 I have always felt policemen to be 589 00:40:07,113 --> 00:40:09,024 the most dangerous person in the neighborhood. 590 00:40:09,699 --> 00:40:14,364 So, to have me playing a police officer I was tremendously hesitant. 591 00:40:14,537 --> 00:40:17,871 But there was something reluctant about Fred to let go. 592 00:40:18,041 --> 00:40:19,907 "And I said," Mr. Rogers, 593 00:40:20,293 --> 00:40:23,331 "I would be very happy to be on your program," 594 00:40:23,588 --> 00:40:27,377 "as long as it doesn't interfere with my singing." 595 00:40:27,550 --> 00:40:31,760 We've had it and now we can go 596 00:40:33,222 --> 00:40:37,716 We don't want the snow anymore 597 00:40:38,937 --> 00:40:43,431 And he teased me. He teased me about that for 20 years! 598 00:40:43,608 --> 00:40:45,440 He'd say, "Officer Clemmons," 599 00:40:45,944 --> 00:40:50,108 "are we interfering with your career? Are we interfering?" 600 00:40:50,406 --> 00:40:53,899 He was relentless, but he also told me, he said, 601 00:40:54,369 --> 00:40:56,610 "That was the moment I loved you." 602 00:40:57,121 --> 00:41:00,785 He said, "Because you were not going to kiss my ass." 603 00:41:00,959 --> 00:41:03,166 Those are Mr. Rogers' words. 604 00:41:06,756 --> 00:41:08,463 That feels good. 605 00:41:12,261 --> 00:41:15,003 Oh, there's Officer Clemmons. Hi, Officer Clemmons. Come in. 606 00:41:15,098 --> 00:41:17,242 Hi, Mr. Rogers, how are you? Fine. Why don't you sit down? 607 00:41:17,266 --> 00:41:18,677 Oh, sure, just for a moment. 608 00:41:18,768 --> 00:41:21,851 It's so warm I was just putting some water on my feet. 609 00:41:21,980 --> 00:41:24,267 Oh, it sure is. Would you like to join me? 610 00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:27,432 That looks awfully enjoyable, but I don't have a towel or anything. 611 00:41:27,527 --> 00:41:30,485 Oh, you share mine. Okay. Sure! 612 00:41:30,655 --> 00:41:33,215 Around the country they didn't want black people to come 613 00:41:33,282 --> 00:41:35,023 and swim in their swimming pools. 614 00:41:36,202 --> 00:41:38,694 And Fred said, "That is absolutely ridiculous." 615 00:41:40,498 --> 00:41:42,239 Today, trouble under a noon sun. 616 00:41:42,333 --> 00:41:46,952 Negroes and White rabbis marched to a segregated hotel with these results, 617 00:41:47,672 --> 00:41:51,415 the Manager James Brock told them to get off his private property, 618 00:41:51,676 --> 00:41:54,464 tossed cleaning chemicals inside the pool 619 00:41:54,637 --> 00:41:56,969 in an effort to get the Negroes to leave. 620 00:41:58,307 --> 00:42:01,971 My being on the program was a statement for Fred. 621 00:42:03,688 --> 00:42:06,146 Cool water on a hot day. 622 00:42:10,194 --> 00:42:12,686 I think that will is the great 623 00:42:12,822 --> 00:42:17,612 unseen and unacknowledged ingredient in Fred's story. 624 00:42:22,373 --> 00:42:25,115 The level of will that this guy brought 625 00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:30,500 to really almost all phases of his life, physical and spiritual. 626 00:42:33,217 --> 00:42:36,005 There's no better manifestation of that 627 00:42:36,345 --> 00:42:39,007 than 143. 628 00:42:39,307 --> 00:42:41,844 Is that your address here? Oh, no. 629 00:42:42,185 --> 00:42:44,768 It means something special. 630 00:42:45,688 --> 00:42:47,770 1-4-3? - Mmm-hmm. 631 00:42:49,067 --> 00:42:52,526 You see, "I" is one letter 632 00:42:52,904 --> 00:42:56,568 and love, L-O-V-E is four letters, 633 00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:00,693 and "you," Y-O-U is three letters. 634 00:43:01,871 --> 00:43:05,489 Fred would go to the Pittsburgh Athletic Club 635 00:43:05,708 --> 00:43:07,619 and he swam a mile. 636 00:43:08,586 --> 00:43:11,248 He swam at a unhurried, 637 00:43:11,339 --> 00:43:14,923 but deliberate and determined pace. 638 00:43:15,093 --> 00:43:18,802 And then he got on the scale 639 00:43:20,556 --> 00:43:25,266 and the needle of the scale jumped to 143. 640 00:43:25,937 --> 00:43:28,395 And he came off it 641 00:43:28,731 --> 00:43:31,018 with kind of a little smile on his face, 642 00:43:31,776 --> 00:43:34,359 and he told me that he had weighed 643 00:43:34,737 --> 00:43:38,275 143 pounds every day of his life 644 00:43:38,574 --> 00:43:41,612 since like the late '50s or early '60s. 645 00:43:46,916 --> 00:43:49,783 Now, I've thought about this a lot. 646 00:43:49,919 --> 00:43:54,664 With that 143 pound thing, drives me insane. 647 00:43:55,299 --> 00:43:57,916 Try that! I can't do that! 648 00:43:58,970 --> 00:44:02,884 In Fred's private numerology "I love you" is "143." 649 00:44:03,141 --> 00:44:07,556 So, when the needle jumps to 143, 650 00:44:07,728 --> 00:44:10,937 there's like this confirming quality. 651 00:44:12,441 --> 00:44:15,650 There's so many weird things that I'm not gonna tell you. 652 00:44:18,281 --> 00:44:19,487 No. 653 00:44:21,492 --> 00:44:25,577 Freddy was like the little rich kid that lived in the big house. 654 00:44:26,414 --> 00:44:30,533 We were all the goofball kids that lived across the alley. 655 00:44:31,961 --> 00:44:34,077 We could be ourselves around Fred. 656 00:44:34,297 --> 00:44:37,585 We were crazies. We all had long hair, 657 00:44:38,467 --> 00:44:41,425 and we were always having fun. We were always making jokes. 658 00:44:41,596 --> 00:44:43,303 It's such a good... 659 00:44:51,981 --> 00:44:54,643 All right, that aren't mine. Who's are these? 660 00:44:58,863 --> 00:45:03,323 if we ever saw a camera lying around, we'd grab it, 661 00:45:03,534 --> 00:45:05,741 I'd pull my pants down, I'd take a picture of my ass 662 00:45:05,828 --> 00:45:07,284 and put their camera back. 663 00:45:07,371 --> 00:45:11,160 And like, then it was film, so like three weeks later, 664 00:45:11,334 --> 00:45:14,998 you'd go to the Fotomat and you'd get your pictures back 665 00:45:15,171 --> 00:45:18,664 and there's Aunt Judy and there's Uncle Fred and there's some guy's ass. 666 00:45:19,675 --> 00:45:22,667 And one day Fred brought his camera into the studio 667 00:45:22,845 --> 00:45:24,506 and he was taking pictures with it. 668 00:45:25,014 --> 00:45:28,006 And we went behind the set, took a picture of my butt, 669 00:45:28,476 --> 00:45:29,807 and put his camera back. 670 00:45:30,019 --> 00:45:33,353 He never said anything, and like, months later... 671 00:45:33,648 --> 00:45:35,889 I think it was around Christmas time, 672 00:45:36,234 --> 00:45:39,317 he said to somebody, "Did you give Nick his present?" 673 00:45:39,695 --> 00:45:44,360 And it was a poster of that picture of me and my butt. 674 00:45:54,585 --> 00:45:57,373 Thank you very much. You're welcome. 675 00:45:57,546 --> 00:45:59,878 Did you make these yourself? 676 00:46:00,383 --> 00:46:03,671 I... 677 00:46:03,844 --> 00:46:06,711 I thought... I thought of X the Owl, 678 00:46:06,889 --> 00:46:10,883 so I drew him in his house 679 00:46:11,227 --> 00:46:13,013 and his little door. 680 00:46:13,896 --> 00:46:18,060 Oh, these are real treasures. Thank you very much. 681 00:46:18,234 --> 00:46:21,727 You're welcome. Would you like to see X the Owl? 682 00:46:24,949 --> 00:46:28,032 You're a little happy. That makes you just a little bit happy, huh? 683 00:46:28,703 --> 00:46:30,910 Oh, hello there! 684 00:46:32,456 --> 00:46:34,117 Hello, everybody. 685 00:46:34,417 --> 00:46:37,205 Hi. I'm X the Owl. 686 00:46:37,586 --> 00:46:40,044 I hear you drew a picture of me. 687 00:46:41,632 --> 00:46:46,092 This is a book on all of the different tapes that we have. 688 00:46:46,304 --> 00:46:48,136 Here are the tapes. Here. 689 00:46:50,057 --> 00:46:54,221 At that point, he thought he had done enough programs, 690 00:46:54,312 --> 00:46:56,053 that they could be repeated. 691 00:46:56,147 --> 00:46:58,764 Those are all different visits, 692 00:47:00,151 --> 00:47:02,939 television visits that we have on tape. 693 00:47:03,612 --> 00:47:07,355 He was writing, he was hosting, he was singing, he was composing. 694 00:47:07,491 --> 00:47:10,779 And it took a lot out of him. I think he wanted a breather. 695 00:47:11,329 --> 00:47:15,288 Well, next week, we'll start to show all of these visits, 696 00:47:15,458 --> 00:47:18,075 so everybody can see them the whole way through. 697 00:47:18,252 --> 00:47:19,583 I'll look forward to that. 698 00:47:20,296 --> 00:47:22,128 Let's take a look at this one. 699 00:47:22,298 --> 00:47:25,131 When you think about all of those episodes 700 00:47:25,509 --> 00:47:27,921 there's only so many stories you can tell, right? 701 00:47:28,346 --> 00:47:31,839 What's in the future for Fred Rogers? I understand that 702 00:47:31,932 --> 00:47:33,593 you are ceasing production 703 00:47:33,684 --> 00:47:35,800 this spring of the Neighborhood shows. 704 00:47:36,312 --> 00:47:38,849 Well, it's going to give us time to make some things 705 00:47:39,023 --> 00:47:40,980 that I've wanted to do for a long time. 706 00:47:59,835 --> 00:48:01,542 Hi, Katie. Hi, Fred. 707 00:48:03,172 --> 00:48:05,755 John, wait till you see this quilt. 708 00:48:07,343 --> 00:48:11,632 He wanted to do some prime time stuff for adults 709 00:48:11,847 --> 00:48:15,841 and, so he got funding to do a show called Old Friends... New Friends. 710 00:48:17,061 --> 00:48:21,806 I wonder what it is that makes one person push on in the face of difficulty 711 00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:25,438 and make someone else crumble in helplessness. 712 00:48:26,904 --> 00:48:28,173 What does tomorrow feel like? 713 00:48:28,197 --> 00:48:31,861 That big. I feel that big. 714 00:48:32,368 --> 00:48:33,858 There's no feeling for tomorrow. 715 00:48:33,953 --> 00:48:35,910 Feeling is dead for me in here. 716 00:48:38,165 --> 00:48:40,532 He was incredibly open. 717 00:48:41,752 --> 00:48:43,743 He was scarily open. 718 00:48:46,048 --> 00:48:49,507 - He wanted to speak to adults. - He kinda put the puppets away. 719 00:48:50,177 --> 00:48:52,544 But have you watched some of these? 720 00:48:53,764 --> 00:48:57,974 The feeling that this instrument is a place, 721 00:49:01,230 --> 00:49:03,938 that it is a country. 722 00:49:05,734 --> 00:49:09,068 That it's somewhere that you go 723 00:49:10,072 --> 00:49:12,234 to say something. 724 00:49:17,246 --> 00:49:19,829 What does this have to do with our world? 725 00:49:21,917 --> 00:49:25,080 I don't know any store that's like this. 726 00:49:25,629 --> 00:49:27,916 Any television program that's like this. 727 00:49:29,258 --> 00:49:30,748 A flower is like this. 728 00:49:32,094 --> 00:49:34,085 A child is like this. 729 00:49:35,764 --> 00:49:39,007 Nobody but Fred would've thought of doing that for adults. 730 00:49:39,602 --> 00:49:41,138 Take number 19. 731 00:49:42,229 --> 00:49:47,144 Thank you for your poems and your thoughts about loving poetry and music. 732 00:49:47,818 --> 00:49:50,480 You really inspired us to make this program. 733 00:49:50,821 --> 00:49:52,687 I'll be with you next time. 734 00:49:53,741 --> 00:49:58,201 But he wasn't making the kind of connections with adults on television 735 00:49:58,287 --> 00:49:59,847 that he thought he might be able to make. 736 00:50:04,627 --> 00:50:08,712 I remember opening the paper and reading about a child 737 00:50:09,423 --> 00:50:11,915 jumping off a roof with a towel around his neck 738 00:50:12,134 --> 00:50:14,626 because he was playing Superman. 739 00:50:16,972 --> 00:50:19,339 And there had been a lot of stories like that. 740 00:50:19,517 --> 00:50:23,636 Some children died because of the injuries. I read it to Fred. 741 00:50:24,355 --> 00:50:27,313 It hit him, because he thought he had covered 742 00:50:27,483 --> 00:50:32,478 all there was to say in child development, but this was new. 743 00:50:33,697 --> 00:50:35,008 Fred didn't become angry a lot, 744 00:50:35,032 --> 00:50:37,069 but he just became so angry 745 00:50:37,159 --> 00:50:39,821 about the fact that people would mislead a small child. 746 00:50:41,372 --> 00:50:45,491 And angry that it was his medium that was doing this. 747 00:50:51,048 --> 00:50:52,163 Yeah, Superman. 748 00:50:55,302 --> 00:50:59,591 I am tired of hearing people who have long ago set aside 749 00:50:59,682 --> 00:51:01,889 the concerns of childhood, 750 00:51:02,476 --> 00:51:05,264 telling everybody what children really need. 751 00:51:05,854 --> 00:51:08,095 I'll tell you what children need. 752 00:51:09,483 --> 00:51:12,521 They need adults who will protect them 753 00:51:13,195 --> 00:51:16,859 from the ever-ready molders of their world. 754 00:51:20,369 --> 00:51:22,861 That was the moment Fred said, 755 00:51:23,247 --> 00:51:25,705 "I wonder if we could do a week on superheroes" 756 00:51:26,208 --> 00:51:29,200 "talking about the pretend-ness of it?" 757 00:51:30,588 --> 00:51:34,252 Very quickly we came back with the show. 758 00:51:44,852 --> 00:51:47,059 Careful, Anna, I don't want you to... 759 00:51:47,146 --> 00:51:50,855 I think I'm flying! I am! I'm flying! No, no, you're falling! 760 00:51:51,066 --> 00:51:55,025 What is going on here? Oh, Anna was trying to fly. 761 00:51:55,279 --> 00:51:58,897 I was using my super-skirt and I was going through the air. 762 00:51:59,074 --> 00:52:02,237 Yes, but you were going down and you might have gotten hurt! 763 00:52:02,578 --> 00:52:03,909 That's right, Anna. 764 00:52:04,079 --> 00:52:07,242 You have to be really careful with super-things. 765 00:52:08,751 --> 00:52:11,459 He was cool with every kid. 766 00:52:12,296 --> 00:52:15,584 That's the whole thing. I mean, there were the kids that were... 767 00:52:15,758 --> 00:52:18,591 They were little bastards. They were just rowdy and... 768 00:52:18,927 --> 00:52:22,261 Fred never said, "This kid's a dick. Get him outta here." 769 00:52:22,431 --> 00:52:24,263 You know, I mean, I sure would've. 770 00:52:25,601 --> 00:52:28,764 Fred used to say that the outside world 771 00:52:28,937 --> 00:52:32,726 of children's lives has changed, but their insides haven't. 772 00:52:33,275 --> 00:52:36,142 He realized that his work wasn't through. 773 00:52:36,570 --> 00:52:40,438 I'm Fred Rogers and I'd like to talk with you about make-believe. 774 00:52:41,116 --> 00:52:44,359 When it goes to the next level is in the 1980s 775 00:52:44,453 --> 00:52:45,739 when he goes to the theme weeks. 776 00:52:45,829 --> 00:52:48,446 L mean, to do a week on death... 777 00:52:48,707 --> 00:52:52,450 "Oh, hi, kids! We're going to do a week on death!" 778 00:52:53,962 --> 00:52:55,248 On divorce! 779 00:52:55,339 --> 00:52:57,296 Some people get married and after a while 780 00:52:57,466 --> 00:52:59,457 they're so unhappy with each other 781 00:52:59,551 --> 00:53:01,758 that they don't want to be married anymore. 782 00:53:02,137 --> 00:53:07,348 On children getting lost! Man! That's guts. 783 00:53:09,812 --> 00:53:13,806 Help! Help, help! Help, please, everybody! 784 00:53:24,993 --> 00:53:28,782 There's a piece of paper that I accidentally ran into. 785 00:53:31,500 --> 00:53:36,836 And he typed in this little sheet of paper about how he couldn't do it, 786 00:53:37,673 --> 00:53:39,914 that he didn't think he was up to the task. 787 00:53:41,510 --> 00:53:45,469 "Am I kidding myself that I'm able to write a script again? 788 00:53:46,181 --> 00:53:50,470 "Am I really just whistling Dixie? I wonder." 789 00:53:51,353 --> 00:53:54,891 "If I don't get down to it, I'll never really know." 790 00:53:56,483 --> 00:53:58,724 "Why don't I trust myself?" 791 00:53:59,486 --> 00:54:03,696 "After all these years, it's just as bad as ever." 792 00:54:06,326 --> 00:54:09,694 "The hour cometh and now is when I've got to do it." 793 00:54:10,706 --> 00:54:13,038 "Get to it, Fred, get to it!" 794 00:54:14,710 --> 00:54:19,295 "But don't let anybody ever tell anybody else that it was easy." 795 00:54:19,673 --> 00:54:21,163 "It wasn't." 796 00:54:27,723 --> 00:54:32,217 The time that I was with him going on a New York City subway, 797 00:54:32,394 --> 00:54:35,557 all the children in that crowded subway car 798 00:54:36,231 --> 00:54:38,563 began singing the Neighborhood song. 799 00:54:51,747 --> 00:54:56,366 He might as well have been an animated figure stepped into real life. 800 00:54:57,085 --> 00:54:58,085 Could I try that? 801 00:54:59,296 --> 00:55:01,253 I brought my skates with me. I can try. 802 00:55:08,597 --> 00:55:10,804 What else you like to do? Moon walking. 803 00:55:10,974 --> 00:55:13,432 Moonwalk? You got it. Yeah. 804 00:55:14,144 --> 00:55:17,637 People thought he was such an important American figure 805 00:55:17,815 --> 00:55:21,183 they wanted him to speak out on the issues of the day. 806 00:55:21,652 --> 00:55:25,316 And, so, Fred grew pretty comfortably into more of a public role. 807 00:55:25,489 --> 00:55:30,029 You know, the Earth is a name for the place where everybody lives. 808 00:55:30,494 --> 00:55:33,862 And the moon is the name for the place 809 00:55:34,456 --> 00:55:35,946 where the astronauts go. 810 00:55:36,625 --> 00:55:40,835 Every time we went through a national or international tragedy, 811 00:55:41,338 --> 00:55:45,081 my impulse was always to call Fred and put him on the radio. 812 00:55:46,134 --> 00:55:49,422 What shall we tell our children about the things that are in the news 813 00:55:49,596 --> 00:55:52,088 that seem so difficult, so tragic? 814 00:55:52,474 --> 00:55:56,058 Pilot Mike Smith followed by Christa McAuliffe, teacher in space. 815 00:55:57,145 --> 00:56:00,105 Christa has been rehearsing the lessons she'll teach from space. 816 00:56:00,315 --> 00:56:04,525 Good morning. This is Christa McAuliffe live from the Challenger. 817 00:56:04,695 --> 00:56:07,375 The lessons will be seen nationwide on public television. 818 00:56:07,447 --> 00:56:10,405 Five, four, three... 819 00:56:10,492 --> 00:56:14,030 Two, one and liftoff! 820 00:56:14,204 --> 00:56:19,199 Liftoff of the 25th space shuttle mission and it has cleared the tower. 821 00:56:19,293 --> 00:56:21,079 Challenger, go with throttle up. 822 00:56:21,336 --> 00:56:23,077 Roger, go with throttle up. 823 00:56:30,012 --> 00:56:31,502 God, no! 824 00:56:36,018 --> 00:56:40,057 How do we put it to children, so they will understand? 825 00:56:44,526 --> 00:56:47,860 And part of Fred's answer was always to tell children 826 00:56:48,196 --> 00:56:51,188 that we, the parents, would take care of them. 827 00:56:52,576 --> 00:56:54,988 Sometimes I found that a difficult message myself 828 00:56:55,162 --> 00:56:56,994 as the parent of a young child. 829 00:56:57,080 --> 00:56:58,741 Sometimes I felt I was lying. 830 00:56:58,832 --> 00:57:00,698 I knew that there were things in this world that 831 00:57:00,792 --> 00:57:02,374 I couldn't protect my child from. 832 00:57:06,048 --> 00:57:09,211 Sometimes we need to struggle with the tragedy 833 00:57:09,551 --> 00:57:11,713 to feel the gravity of love. 834 00:57:13,347 --> 00:57:17,432 Love is what keeps us together and afloat. 835 00:57:23,774 --> 00:57:26,607 It's a beautiful day in the neighborhood 836 00:57:26,777 --> 00:57:29,769 A beautiful day for a neighbor Would you be mine? 837 00:57:29,863 --> 00:57:34,232 You know, it must be tough to be Fred Rogers 838 00:57:34,409 --> 00:57:39,279 with your mission in mind 839 00:57:39,456 --> 00:57:40,992 and then to have parodies. 840 00:57:41,083 --> 00:57:45,418 L always wanted to live in a house like yours my friend 841 00:57:46,088 --> 00:57:49,877 Maybe when there's nobody home I'll break in 842 00:57:50,050 --> 00:57:52,587 I married a woman who said she was rich 843 00:57:52,761 --> 00:57:55,093 Spent all her money Walked out on the bitch 844 00:57:55,263 --> 00:57:59,382 Won't you be my, won't you be my, won't you be my neighbor? 845 00:58:02,104 --> 00:58:05,597 Eddie Murphy did that Mister Robinson's Neighborhood 846 00:58:05,774 --> 00:58:08,141 and I remember meeting him 847 00:58:08,318 --> 00:58:10,355 and he just threw his arms around me 848 00:58:10,445 --> 00:58:13,858 the first time he saw me and he said, "The real Mister Rogers." 849 00:58:14,116 --> 00:58:16,778 That's Mr. Rogers there in the... 850 00:58:17,244 --> 00:58:19,110 On the left. On the left, yeah. 851 00:58:19,287 --> 00:58:20,447 Now, how do you react to that? 852 00:58:21,123 --> 00:58:22,830 Well, some of them aren't very funny. 853 00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:26,413 But I think that a lot of them are done 854 00:58:26,962 --> 00:58:29,420 with real kindness in their hearts. 855 00:58:30,298 --> 00:58:34,383 I'm moving to a new neighborhood where I've made a new friend. 856 00:58:36,596 --> 00:58:39,054 Can you say "hooker"? 857 00:58:39,516 --> 00:58:43,009 There were some that were not as kind 858 00:58:43,478 --> 00:58:48,769 in nature and if they made fun of the philosophy, 859 00:58:49,276 --> 00:58:51,859 that was the only thing that offended him, I think. 860 00:58:52,529 --> 00:58:56,147 The battle of the P-B-S stars. 861 00:58:57,367 --> 00:59:00,325 The crowd is literally buzzing with excitement 862 00:59:00,495 --> 00:59:03,829 as Mr. Rogers enters the ring... Oh, look out there, Fred! 863 00:59:03,999 --> 00:59:08,084 Fred had such a great sense of humor for the most part. 864 00:59:08,420 --> 00:59:12,334 There's Child, obviously in shape and ready for this fight. 865 00:59:12,507 --> 00:59:14,168 But what about Rogers? 866 00:59:14,509 --> 00:59:18,343 Experts have cast aspersions on his manhood itself. 867 00:59:19,347 --> 00:59:21,159 Fred was watching with the rest of us 868 00:59:21,183 --> 00:59:22,548 and everybody would be laughing 869 00:59:22,726 --> 00:59:27,846 and I just wonder if a little bit of Fat Freddy came back. 870 00:59:30,025 --> 00:59:32,062 Just before getting to adolescence, 871 00:59:32,152 --> 00:59:36,066 he didn't have an easy time making friends, I don't think. 872 00:59:36,740 --> 00:59:39,698 He got a good taste of what bullying was all about. 873 00:59:41,369 --> 00:59:45,363 I've often wondered if there hadn't been a Fat Freddy 874 00:59:45,707 --> 00:59:47,789 would there have been a Mister Rogers? 875 00:59:47,918 --> 00:59:51,536 You can feel the momentum actually swinging towards Child. 876 00:59:51,713 --> 00:59:55,081 And what just happened there? He cracked a puppet! 877 00:59:55,258 --> 00:59:56,464 Oh, look at this! 878 00:59:56,551 --> 00:59:59,714 He's hitting Child with the loveable King Friday! 879 00:59:59,888 --> 01:00:01,674 And the French chef is down! 880 01:00:10,732 --> 01:00:12,018 A laughter record. 881 01:00:12,192 --> 01:00:14,854 Used to play one like this when I was a young boy. 882 01:00:15,737 --> 01:00:18,900 You see, I felt that the adults around me were pressuring me 883 01:00:18,990 --> 01:00:20,822 to be what I couldn't be yet. 884 01:00:21,076 --> 01:00:23,568 "Act like a grown-up," I'd hear them say. 885 01:00:24,204 --> 01:00:27,037 Well, I was afraid they'd laugh at me when I tried. 886 01:00:27,457 --> 01:00:29,368 So, I found a record like this 887 01:00:29,459 --> 01:00:31,621 and I could make the laughs start 888 01:00:31,795 --> 01:00:34,787 and make them stop whenever I wanted to. 889 01:00:35,924 --> 01:00:38,632 For someone who hated to be laughed at, 890 01:00:39,094 --> 01:00:43,258 it was a good feeling to be in charge of at least this laughter. 891 01:00:45,308 --> 01:00:46,719 L think that 892 01:00:47,602 --> 01:00:51,596 those who would try 893 01:00:52,482 --> 01:00:55,850 to make you feel less than who you are, 894 01:00:56,278 --> 01:00:58,110 I think that's the greatest evil. 895 01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:01,818 I've always wanted to live in a neighborhood with you 896 01:01:01,992 --> 01:01:06,111 So, let's make the most of this beautiful day 897 01:01:06,955 --> 01:01:10,789 Since we're together, we might as well say 898 01:01:11,126 --> 01:01:13,618 Would you be mine, could you be mine... 899 01:01:14,337 --> 01:01:17,329 There was a wonderful quote from Fred. 900 01:01:17,591 --> 01:01:18,797 Oh, that's hard. 901 01:01:18,884 --> 01:01:20,841 The most important learning 902 01:01:20,927 --> 01:01:25,091 it's the ability to accept and expect mistakes 903 01:01:25,265 --> 01:01:27,757 and deal with the disappointments that they bring. 904 01:01:28,310 --> 01:01:32,099 Hi, neighbor. Had a little trouble with my zipper there. 905 01:01:32,647 --> 01:01:37,517 I'll get these shoes tied and then try the zipper again. 906 01:01:38,361 --> 01:01:41,353 And Fred also understood 907 01:01:41,448 --> 01:01:43,359 that there's a deeper level. 908 01:01:44,826 --> 01:01:46,863 You know something, Lady Aberlin? 909 01:01:46,953 --> 01:01:48,193 What, Daniel? 910 01:01:48,663 --> 01:01:51,496 I've been wondering about something myself. 911 01:01:51,666 --> 01:01:53,373 Something about Mr. Skunk? 912 01:01:53,543 --> 01:01:55,659 Something about mistakes. 913 01:01:55,754 --> 01:01:56,994 What is it? 914 01:01:57,672 --> 01:02:02,087 I've been wondering if I was a mistake? 915 01:02:03,803 --> 01:02:05,385 If you were a mistake? 916 01:02:05,555 --> 01:02:08,673 And I will tell you sitting in the studio 917 01:02:09,184 --> 01:02:11,050 listening to that that day 918 01:02:12,229 --> 01:02:16,894 I said to myself, "I can't believe Fred had the courage" 919 01:02:18,235 --> 01:02:20,021 "to put that into words." 920 01:02:20,862 --> 01:02:24,856 Sometimes I wonder if I'm too tame. 921 01:02:25,659 --> 01:02:30,654 Sometimes I wonder if I'm a mistake 922 01:02:31,164 --> 01:02:35,374 I'm not like anyone else I know 923 01:02:36,044 --> 01:02:40,709 When I'm asleep or even awake 924 01:02:40,882 --> 01:02:45,877 Sometimes I get to dreaming that I'm just a fake 925 01:02:46,263 --> 01:02:50,257 I'm not like anyone else 926 01:02:51,101 --> 01:02:55,971 I think you are just fine as you are 927 01:02:56,064 --> 01:02:57,064 You do? 928 01:02:57,107 --> 01:03:01,351 I really must tell you I do... 929 01:03:01,528 --> 01:03:05,146 Lady Aberlin is saying to Daniel 930 01:03:05,824 --> 01:03:08,191 what Fred himself wanted to say, 931 01:03:08,576 --> 01:03:11,659 not only to his childhood self but to all children. 932 01:03:11,746 --> 01:03:16,206 You're not a fake You're no mistake 933 01:03:16,543 --> 01:03:18,534 You are my friend 934 01:03:18,712 --> 01:03:21,374 And then you think, "Okay, then Daniel's gonna say, 935 01:03:21,548 --> 01:03:23,108 "'Oh, thank you. That helped me a lot."' 936 01:03:23,425 --> 01:03:27,919 I wonder if I'm a mistake I think you are just fine as you are 937 01:03:28,096 --> 01:03:31,589 I'm not like anyone else I really must tell you... 938 01:03:31,766 --> 01:03:36,636 And I thought to myself, "Thank you, Fred, for reminding us that" 939 01:03:36,813 --> 01:03:40,932 "it's not so easy to quiet a doubt." 940 01:03:41,276 --> 01:03:46,646 But make it a duet so that it's not just your fears, 941 01:03:46,823 --> 01:03:48,860 but you'll hear my support. 942 01:03:49,117 --> 01:03:51,529 Isn't it true that the strong never break? 943 01:03:51,619 --> 01:03:53,610 When you're sleep When you're wake 944 01:03:53,747 --> 01:03:57,456 I'm not like anyone else I know You're not a fake 945 01:03:57,625 --> 01:04:02,620 You're no mistake You're my friend I'm not like anyone else 946 01:04:05,133 --> 01:04:09,297 I think you are just fine 947 01:04:09,471 --> 01:04:11,838 exactly the way you are. 948 01:04:12,015 --> 01:04:13,301 The way I look? 949 01:04:13,391 --> 01:04:14,631 Yes. 950 01:04:14,809 --> 01:04:16,140 The way I talk? 951 01:04:16,227 --> 01:04:17,638 Well, yes. 952 01:04:17,812 --> 01:04:19,678 The way I love? 953 01:04:19,773 --> 01:04:21,355 Especially that. 954 01:04:27,405 --> 01:04:30,943 Every valley 955 01:04:32,952 --> 01:04:35,694 Every valley 956 01:04:35,872 --> 01:04:38,113 Shall be exalted 957 01:04:38,291 --> 01:04:40,211 There were black kids watching the show. 958 01:04:40,502 --> 01:04:44,496 They needed a black figure who would not let them down. 959 01:04:44,672 --> 01:04:48,506 So, if I came out as gay and there was some kind of scandal, 960 01:04:48,885 --> 01:04:51,252 that would not serve the race. 961 01:04:51,846 --> 01:04:53,803 I carried that all the time. 962 01:04:54,307 --> 01:04:59,302 The feeling you know you're alive! 963 01:05:02,649 --> 01:05:04,515 Really nice, Francois! 964 01:05:05,193 --> 01:05:07,480 I went to a gay bar downtown called the Play Pen. 965 01:05:07,570 --> 01:05:09,311 Oh, God, did I have a lot of fun! 966 01:05:09,489 --> 01:05:12,698 But somebody told the Mister Rogers' Neighborhood people 967 01:05:12,784 --> 01:05:15,902 about it, and he asked me, "Were you downtown at that bar?" 968 01:05:16,079 --> 01:05:19,242 And I said, "Yes." He said, "You can't go back there anymore." 969 01:05:20,375 --> 01:05:24,334 I wanted to show this film to you. Okay, on Picture, Picture. 970 01:05:26,548 --> 01:05:28,755 Here's Mrs. Clemmons at home. 971 01:05:29,217 --> 01:05:32,710 In '68 I got married. I'm not stupid. 972 01:05:33,221 --> 01:05:35,758 There's the portrait of the King and Queen. 973 01:05:39,018 --> 01:05:41,885 If I came out publicly, he said, "You cannot be on the show anymore." 974 01:05:42,730 --> 01:05:45,643 The sponsors, Johnson and Johnson, and Sears, 975 01:05:46,109 --> 01:05:49,067 they are not going to support an openly gay man. 976 01:05:50,613 --> 01:05:54,572 Fred was not prepared to lose that market. 977 01:05:55,618 --> 01:05:58,360 My marriage failed miserably. 978 01:05:59,581 --> 01:06:02,073 And I discovered you can't pray it away. 979 01:06:04,294 --> 01:06:06,581 Eventually, Fred came around to it. 980 01:06:07,797 --> 01:06:12,462 I think Francois just came a little too soon maybe, you know? 981 01:06:15,054 --> 01:06:17,546 Oh, yes. Oh, my yes. Heavens. 982 01:06:21,561 --> 01:06:23,914 You gotta forgive me for this, but I have to ask you something 983 01:06:23,938 --> 01:06:27,602 that may sound impertinent and I don't mean for it to, for a second. 984 01:06:29,944 --> 01:06:31,605 Are you square? 985 01:06:31,946 --> 01:06:34,028 I mean, are you a straight guy? I mean, you're just... 986 01:06:34,365 --> 01:06:35,901 Are you really the way you are? 987 01:06:36,034 --> 01:06:38,196 First of all, no, he's not gay. 988 01:06:38,453 --> 01:06:40,785 I tell everyone who asks me, "No, he's not gay." 989 01:06:40,872 --> 01:06:44,456 But the other part is I spent enough time with him 990 01:06:44,792 --> 01:06:48,456 that if he had... If there was a gay vibe, I would've picked it up. 991 01:06:49,797 --> 01:06:52,129 Nope. Not as far as I know. 992 01:06:53,092 --> 01:06:58,462 I think that anybody who looked at Fred looked at somebody 993 01:06:59,140 --> 01:07:02,633 that they couldn't compare with anybody else. 994 01:07:02,727 --> 01:07:06,721 There's something inside you that hasn't been lost. 995 01:07:06,981 --> 01:07:08,312 Thank you, Daniel. 996 01:07:08,483 --> 01:07:10,190 Your childhood. Mmm-hmm. 997 01:07:10,610 --> 01:07:11,691 Okay. 998 01:07:11,778 --> 01:07:12,778 I like him. 999 01:07:12,820 --> 01:07:14,151 I know. 1000 01:07:14,447 --> 01:07:15,447 Bye-bye. 1001 01:07:15,532 --> 01:07:18,445 That was one of the things that I responded to. 1002 01:07:20,161 --> 01:07:22,698 He's terrific. Wow. 1003 01:07:22,789 --> 01:07:26,327 I definitely saw another way of being a man. 1004 01:07:28,670 --> 01:07:30,832 I'm sure you've heard all these rumors about 1005 01:07:31,714 --> 01:07:34,752 Fred being a Navy SEAL and killing people. 1006 01:07:34,842 --> 01:07:39,131 Was Fred a Navy SEAL? Did Fred have tattoos? 1007 01:07:39,556 --> 01:07:42,423 And that, you know, he wore the sweater 1008 01:07:42,517 --> 01:07:44,383 to cover the tattoos. 1009 01:07:45,353 --> 01:07:48,141 Fred was born a rich kid. 1010 01:07:49,107 --> 01:07:51,690 He didn't know how to use a screwdriver, 1011 01:07:52,110 --> 01:07:53,692 let alone kill a bunch of people. 1012 01:07:55,029 --> 01:07:59,694 That to me is just like a classic example of people 1013 01:07:59,784 --> 01:08:03,402 looking at Fred in all his eccentricity and singularity 1014 01:08:03,746 --> 01:08:06,864 and trying to basically say, "Well, that can't be." 1015 01:08:07,250 --> 01:08:08,661 "He has to be this way." 1016 01:08:10,378 --> 01:08:14,963 The universal question about Fred is, was he that way in real life? 1017 01:08:15,592 --> 01:08:16,798 And the answer is, yes. 1018 01:08:19,220 --> 01:08:21,086 Francois Clemmons, hi, welcome. 1019 01:08:21,180 --> 01:08:22,341 Thank you. How you doin'? 1020 01:08:22,432 --> 01:08:24,469 I'm fine. How are you today? Fine. 1021 01:08:24,559 --> 01:08:26,015 My feet were tired, so I thought 1022 01:08:26,102 --> 01:08:28,434 I'd just soak them for a while in this water. 1023 01:08:28,771 --> 01:08:30,011 Does it make them feel better? 1024 01:08:30,189 --> 01:08:31,679 It does. Would you like to try? 1025 01:08:31,774 --> 01:08:32,774 Sure! 1026 01:08:32,859 --> 01:08:34,816 On the show he would say, 1027 01:08:34,902 --> 01:08:37,234 "I love you just the way you are." 1028 01:08:37,947 --> 01:08:41,906 One day I said, "Fred! Were you talking to me?" 1029 01:08:42,535 --> 01:08:44,947 And he looked at me and he said, "Yes", 1030 01:08:45,246 --> 01:08:48,113 "I've been talking to you for two years" 1031 01:08:48,291 --> 01:08:50,783 "and you finally heard me today." 1032 01:08:51,461 --> 01:08:55,250 And I just collapsed into his arms. I was... I started crying. I... 1033 01:08:56,215 --> 01:08:58,422 That's when I knew that I loved him. 1034 01:08:58,509 --> 01:09:02,924 There are many ways to say "I love you" 1035 01:09:03,765 --> 01:09:08,100 There are many ways to say "I care about you" 1036 01:09:08,269 --> 01:09:10,761 No man had ever told me that he loved me like that. 1037 01:09:11,272 --> 01:09:13,730 I needed to hear it all my life. My dad never told me. 1038 01:09:13,816 --> 01:09:15,602 My step-father never told me. 1039 01:09:16,903 --> 01:09:20,692 So, from then on, he became my surrogate father. 1040 01:09:23,284 --> 01:09:25,366 I'm so proud of you, Francois. 1041 01:09:25,453 --> 01:09:26,614 Oh, thank you, Fred. 1042 01:09:27,288 --> 01:09:28,369 May I help you here? 1043 01:09:28,456 --> 01:09:29,742 Thank you. 1044 01:09:30,625 --> 01:09:32,582 The people who have had 1045 01:09:32,710 --> 01:09:36,795 a lot of struggle in their lives, 1046 01:09:37,340 --> 01:09:39,456 those are the people who really impress me. 1047 01:09:44,430 --> 01:09:48,765 There was an interview with a little boy by the name of Jeff Erlanger. 1048 01:09:49,769 --> 01:09:53,558 We wrote because Jeff was going to have a spinal fusion 1049 01:09:53,690 --> 01:09:56,557 and be in a... What they call a halo... 1050 01:09:56,651 --> 01:09:57,732 Cast. A halo cast. 1051 01:09:57,819 --> 01:10:01,528 Metal rim and then cast on his shoulders and bolted all together... 1052 01:10:01,656 --> 01:10:03,238 All the way down his trunk. Yeah. 1053 01:10:03,658 --> 01:10:05,820 He may not have survived the surgery. 1054 01:10:05,993 --> 01:10:09,156 And, so, we said, you know, "What would you like to do?" 1055 01:10:09,664 --> 01:10:12,326 "This is going to be a really big task for you and, so," 1056 01:10:12,500 --> 01:10:15,458 "we want to kick it off with something that would be really special." 1057 01:10:15,545 --> 01:10:17,161 Mr. Rogers? 1058 01:10:17,255 --> 01:10:18,916 Hey, Jeff. 1059 01:10:19,966 --> 01:10:21,832 I'm glad to see you. Hi. 1060 01:10:22,009 --> 01:10:24,341 Thank you very much for coming by. 1061 01:10:24,846 --> 01:10:26,883 Can you tell my friends 1062 01:10:27,348 --> 01:10:30,056 what it is that made you need this wheelchair? 1063 01:10:30,518 --> 01:10:31,518 Sure. 1064 01:10:31,686 --> 01:10:36,647 Well, when I was about seven months old 1065 01:10:37,191 --> 01:10:42,186 I had a tumor 1066 01:10:42,363 --> 01:10:48,029 and it broke the nerves to tell my hands and legs what to do. 1067 01:10:48,202 --> 01:10:49,363 I see. 1068 01:10:50,538 --> 01:10:55,999 And I got a wheelchair when I was four years old. 1069 01:10:56,169 --> 01:10:59,662 That was your first one. When you were four. Mmm-hmm. Uh-huh. 1070 01:10:59,922 --> 01:11:03,040 He told Jeff before they started that they would have a chat 1071 01:11:03,217 --> 01:11:04,378 and then sing a song together. 1072 01:11:04,469 --> 01:11:06,836 I think he said, "We might sing a song." I remember. 1073 01:11:07,013 --> 01:11:08,469 'Cause, I was sort of surprised, 1074 01:11:08,556 --> 01:11:10,200 "What? He's going to start singing a song?" 1075 01:11:10,224 --> 01:11:13,387 Well, you know, this is totally... Not even "What song?" 1076 01:11:13,895 --> 01:11:17,058 It's you I like 1077 01:11:17,732 --> 01:11:20,565 It's not the things you wear 1078 01:11:20,943 --> 01:11:24,186 It's not the way you do your hair 1079 01:11:24,572 --> 01:11:27,439 But it's you I like 1080 01:11:28,034 --> 01:11:30,867 The way you are right now 1081 01:11:31,287 --> 01:11:34,871 The way down deep inside you 1082 01:11:35,249 --> 01:11:38,537 Not the things that hide you 1083 01:11:38,711 --> 01:11:41,078 Not your fancy chair! Chair! 1084 01:11:41,756 --> 01:11:44,748 That's just beside you 1085 01:11:46,260 --> 01:11:49,878 But it's you I like 1086 01:11:50,765 --> 01:11:53,632 Every part of you 1087 01:11:54,227 --> 01:11:57,595 Your skin Your eyes 1088 01:11:57,772 --> 01:11:59,763 Your feelings 1089 01:11:59,982 --> 01:12:03,771 Whether old or new 1090 01:12:04,445 --> 01:12:07,779 I hope that you'll remember 1091 01:12:08,491 --> 01:12:12,985 Even when you're feeling blue 1092 01:12:13,746 --> 01:12:16,113 That it's you I like 1093 01:12:16,457 --> 01:12:20,826 It's you, yourself It's you 1094 01:12:22,922 --> 01:12:25,004 It's you 1095 01:12:25,633 --> 01:12:29,171 I like 1096 01:12:29,846 --> 01:12:31,553 And it is you I like, Jeff. 1097 01:12:31,639 --> 01:12:32,639 Thanks. 1098 01:12:32,682 --> 01:12:35,674 And there must be times when you do feel blue. 1099 01:12:35,768 --> 01:12:36,849 Uh-huh. 1100 01:12:37,019 --> 01:12:38,726 I'm not feeling blue right now though. 1101 01:12:38,813 --> 01:12:39,813 Me neither! 1102 01:12:41,482 --> 01:12:43,393 I'm so glad that you came today. 1103 01:12:43,484 --> 01:12:44,484 Thanks. 1104 01:12:44,569 --> 01:12:47,482 I remember asking one of the staff people that was there, 1105 01:12:47,655 --> 01:12:50,113 "Well, you know, what do you think? Did it go okay?" 1106 01:12:50,283 --> 01:12:51,819 "Oh, this is good! This is good." 1107 01:12:53,494 --> 01:12:55,986 He had his surgery, he survived. 1108 01:12:56,539 --> 01:13:00,123 Certainly, Mr. Rogers had an impact on who Jeff became. 1109 01:13:01,168 --> 01:13:03,000 His sense of self. 1110 01:13:04,130 --> 01:13:07,293 You obviously have a power now. 1111 01:13:08,050 --> 01:13:11,213 I mean, that you wouldn't have had when you first started the show. 1112 01:13:15,141 --> 01:13:19,135 Well, it might sound very ingenuous, but I don't feel that. 1113 01:13:27,486 --> 01:13:32,071 L would hope that anybody who sets himself or herself out 1114 01:13:32,241 --> 01:13:36,235 to produce mass programming for children, 1115 01:13:38,331 --> 01:13:42,370 could have the kind of respect of childhood that I have. 1116 01:13:46,839 --> 01:13:50,878 Because it's not all clowns and balloons. 1117 01:14:00,478 --> 01:14:02,719 What do you mean, you don't agree with me? 1118 01:14:05,775 --> 01:14:08,938 Some television programs are loud and scary 1119 01:14:09,362 --> 01:14:12,229 with people shooting and hitting other people. 1120 01:14:12,740 --> 01:14:15,323 You know, you can do something about that. 1121 01:14:15,910 --> 01:14:20,245 When you see scary television, you can turn it off. 1122 01:14:22,708 --> 01:14:26,997 We need to help our children become more and more aware 1123 01:14:27,463 --> 01:14:30,922 that what is essential in life 1124 01:14:31,300 --> 01:14:34,463 is invisible to the eye. 1125 01:14:35,096 --> 01:14:36,427 Thank you. 1126 01:14:37,556 --> 01:14:38,887 Thank you very much. 1127 01:14:39,767 --> 01:14:41,257 As he got older 1128 01:14:41,769 --> 01:14:45,888 it was more important for him to be strong in his beliefs. 1129 01:14:46,065 --> 01:14:49,228 Maybe that was how he was getting his anger out. 1130 01:14:49,402 --> 01:14:52,144 His anger that people didn't take him seriously. 1131 01:14:52,321 --> 01:14:55,780 They didn't get him. They didn't get the depth of the show. 1132 01:15:00,121 --> 01:15:02,283 He started out being Daniel, 1133 01:15:02,748 --> 01:15:05,786 soft and quiet and shy, 1134 01:15:07,336 --> 01:15:09,498 developed into King Friday. 1135 01:15:09,880 --> 01:15:14,841 That is not correct. Now do it again and do it perfectly. 1136 01:15:15,344 --> 01:15:18,462 Wasn't King Friday a wonderful insight into his character? 1137 01:15:18,639 --> 01:15:21,097 His determination and his ambitions. 1138 01:15:21,559 --> 01:15:25,974 As a king, I must see that the world runs smoothly. 1139 01:15:26,480 --> 01:15:28,642 Farewell to you both! 1140 01:15:28,816 --> 01:15:33,060 That gruffness was his way of getting what he wanted across. 1141 01:15:34,447 --> 01:15:36,688 Fred Rogers wanted something very badly, 1142 01:15:36,824 --> 01:15:40,988 and would do what he felt was necessary in order to get it. 1143 01:15:46,333 --> 01:15:48,370 Let's take the gauntlet 1144 01:15:49,378 --> 01:15:51,995 and make goodness attractive 1145 01:15:52,173 --> 01:15:54,915 in this so-called next millennium. 1146 01:15:56,635 --> 01:15:58,421 That's the real... 1147 01:16:00,848 --> 01:16:03,510 That's the real job that we have. 1148 01:16:04,310 --> 01:16:07,098 I'm not talking about Pollyanna-ish kind of stuff. 1149 01:16:07,188 --> 01:16:08,553 I'm talking about 1150 01:16:08,731 --> 01:16:12,520 down-to-Earth actual goodness. 1151 01:16:13,819 --> 01:16:15,856 People caring for each other 1152 01:16:16,822 --> 01:16:18,904 in a myriad of ways, 1153 01:16:19,366 --> 01:16:22,074 rather than people knocking each other off all the time. 1154 01:16:22,411 --> 01:16:25,494 I mean, I don't find that funny at all. 1155 01:16:27,333 --> 01:16:29,370 What changes the world? 1156 01:16:30,044 --> 01:16:34,038 The only thing that ever really changes the world 1157 01:16:34,882 --> 01:16:37,715 is when somebody gets the idea 1158 01:16:38,385 --> 01:16:41,548 that love can abound 1159 01:16:42,098 --> 01:16:43,930 and can be shared. 1160 01:16:47,353 --> 01:16:49,060 You're doing a great job. 1161 01:16:56,737 --> 01:16:59,946 Dad never stood up and said, "Look at what I've done." 1162 01:17:00,116 --> 01:17:02,198 "Look at this. isn't this wonderful?" 1163 01:17:02,576 --> 01:17:06,865 The only time I ever saw him come even close to anything like that 1164 01:17:07,039 --> 01:17:09,576 was when he did the interview with Koko the gorilla. 1165 01:17:14,130 --> 01:17:16,542 Right. That's a happy sound. 1166 01:17:16,632 --> 01:17:17,632 Is it? 1167 01:17:17,800 --> 01:17:19,086 That's a purr. 1168 01:17:19,176 --> 01:17:20,792 Like that? 1169 01:17:21,262 --> 01:17:23,424 Can you teach me how to do that? 1170 01:17:26,225 --> 01:17:27,807 Isn't that a nice way to welcome 1171 01:17:27,893 --> 01:17:30,009 someone and say that you're happy? 1172 01:17:32,106 --> 01:17:36,942 It was a weird kind of a thing, 1173 01:17:37,194 --> 01:17:41,563 but you realize there was something kind of magical going on there. 1174 01:17:42,074 --> 01:17:44,281 What? Love? 1175 01:17:49,290 --> 01:17:50,872 Well, that was very nice. 1176 01:17:50,958 --> 01:17:51,958 Thank you, Koko. 1177 01:18:04,471 --> 01:18:07,463 There's so much to think about, isn't there? 1178 01:18:11,312 --> 01:18:13,665 Let me ask you about what we've been discussing for the last three hours. 1179 01:18:13,689 --> 01:18:16,932 Mr. Rogers and the narcissistic society that he gave birth to 1180 01:18:17,109 --> 01:18:19,396 because he told every kid that they were important. 1181 01:18:19,486 --> 01:18:22,695 Do you believe his philosophy destroyed a generation? 1182 01:18:22,781 --> 01:18:24,818 This evil, evil man. 1183 01:18:25,284 --> 01:18:26,900 The criticism goes like this... 1184 01:18:27,661 --> 01:18:29,618 "You told everyone they're special." 1185 01:18:29,997 --> 01:18:32,989 "They don't have to do anything to earn that special." 1186 01:18:33,334 --> 01:18:34,995 "That's what's wrong with our country." 1187 01:18:35,169 --> 01:18:37,126 "That's what's wrong with children today." 1188 01:18:37,213 --> 01:18:40,453 He didn't say, "If you wasn't to be special, you're gonna have to work hard." 1189 01:18:40,549 --> 01:18:44,008 And now all these kids are growing up, and they're realizing, 1190 01:18:44,094 --> 01:18:47,007 "Hey, wait a minute, Mr. Rogers lied to me. I'm not special." 1191 01:18:47,848 --> 01:18:51,091 I'm sure by then Fred had heard the criticisms, 1192 01:18:51,185 --> 01:18:54,223 but he's not talking about entitlement. 1193 01:18:55,481 --> 01:18:56,812 And if you don't believe 1194 01:18:57,566 --> 01:18:59,728 that everyone has inherent value, 1195 01:19:00,861 --> 01:19:02,852 you might as well go against 1196 01:19:03,364 --> 01:19:05,355 the fundamental notion of Christianity. 1197 01:19:06,367 --> 01:19:10,952 That you are the beloved son or daughter of God. 1198 01:19:11,705 --> 01:19:13,616 Hi, Mr. Rogers, it's a pleasure to meet you. 1199 01:19:13,707 --> 01:19:15,197 Hi. I'm glad to meet you. Thank you. 1200 01:19:15,376 --> 01:19:17,617 I watched your show as a youngster. 1201 01:19:17,711 --> 01:19:19,293 I wasn't allowed to go to preschool, 1202 01:19:19,463 --> 01:19:23,707 'cause I had a disability, and my mom made me watch your show every day. 1203 01:19:23,884 --> 01:19:25,750 Thank you... Bless your heart and here you are. 1204 01:19:25,844 --> 01:19:27,426 For my preschool education. 1205 01:19:28,389 --> 01:19:30,801 And thank you for inspiring me today. 1206 01:19:31,767 --> 01:19:35,886 At the very end of Fred's very last commencement speech 1207 01:19:36,063 --> 01:19:39,977 he said what he meant when he say, "You're special." 1208 01:19:40,567 --> 01:19:43,559 And what that ultimately means, of course, 1209 01:19:44,405 --> 01:19:50,242 is that you don't ever have to do anything sensational 1210 01:19:51,287 --> 01:19:52,994 for people to love you. 1211 01:19:54,832 --> 01:19:57,824 It is really a matter of believing that 1212 01:19:58,252 --> 01:20:01,620 you're endowed by your creator with good. 1213 01:20:04,925 --> 01:20:07,587 You know there are many different ways of saying, "I love you." 1214 01:20:07,761 --> 01:20:10,253 In fact, I like to think about times 1215 01:20:10,431 --> 01:20:13,423 when I've seen people showing their love. Okay. 1216 01:20:15,853 --> 01:20:17,719 Show 1765. 1217 01:20:18,188 --> 01:20:20,429 This is the last scene of the last show 1218 01:20:20,607 --> 01:20:23,599 of the last day, the last taping day 1219 01:20:23,944 --> 01:20:26,527 of the interior of Mister Rogers' Neighborhood. 1220 01:20:26,864 --> 01:20:31,324 It's such a good feeling to know you're alive 1221 01:20:31,452 --> 01:20:35,616 It's such a happy feeling You're growing inside 1222 01:20:35,789 --> 01:20:39,532 And when you wake up ready to say 1223 01:20:39,793 --> 01:20:43,411 I think I'll make a snappy new day 1224 01:20:44,214 --> 01:20:46,797 It's such a good feeling 1225 01:20:46,967 --> 01:20:49,584 A very good feeling, the... 1226 01:20:50,888 --> 01:20:52,970 This place has been condemned. 1227 01:20:53,390 --> 01:20:55,702 Oh, it's been condemned. Oh, well. You got two days to move out. 1228 01:20:55,726 --> 01:20:58,138 Okay, thanks. See ya. 1229 01:21:00,814 --> 01:21:03,476 That was wonderful! 1230 01:21:03,984 --> 01:21:06,817 Years ago, it wasn't so weird that 1231 01:21:07,821 --> 01:21:09,983 somebody as nice as Fred was around. 1232 01:21:10,741 --> 01:21:14,325 Now there isn't room for a nice person on TV. 1233 01:21:14,703 --> 01:21:17,570 So, we must have regular reunions. 1234 01:21:17,998 --> 01:21:20,490 Yeah. How about Tuesday? 1235 01:21:22,503 --> 01:21:25,541 Yeah, I'll have forgotten about everyone by Monday. 1236 01:21:25,714 --> 01:21:28,251 So, Tuesday will bring it all back. 1237 01:21:57,746 --> 01:22:00,534 We did it! Can you believe it? We did it! 1238 01:22:00,707 --> 01:22:02,118 Mercy! 1239 01:22:04,211 --> 01:22:06,828 When he did stop making the programs, 1240 01:22:07,214 --> 01:22:09,876 I felt that he was depressed. 1241 01:22:11,885 --> 01:22:13,671 And I mentioned it to him 1242 01:22:15,180 --> 01:22:20,766 and he said, "Well, I miss my playmates." 1243 01:22:29,570 --> 01:22:32,904 - Okay. Okay, slate out. - That's fine. 1244 01:22:34,324 --> 01:22:39,160 We decided to have Fred back to do some promos about 9-11. 1245 01:22:42,124 --> 01:22:45,082 He was very troubled and I said, "Fred, what's wrong?" 1246 01:22:45,252 --> 01:22:47,914 And he said, "I just don't know" 1247 01:22:48,755 --> 01:22:50,371 "what good these are going to do." 1248 01:22:51,175 --> 01:22:53,462 And I just remembered saying, 1249 01:22:54,094 --> 01:22:56,756 "Fred! How can you say that?" 1250 01:23:02,019 --> 01:23:05,808 When the horror of 9-11 really hit him, 1251 01:23:06,940 --> 01:23:09,602 I think it was a real eye-opener. 1252 01:23:10,527 --> 01:23:14,771 He was realizing that it was just so big. 1253 01:23:16,450 --> 01:23:21,445 It's always going to be an ongoing struggle to overcome evil. 1254 01:23:22,956 --> 01:23:26,244 I remember thinking, "Okay, this is" 1255 01:23:27,294 --> 01:23:30,286 "the time that you need to pump him up because" 1256 01:23:30,464 --> 01:23:34,298 "he doesn't understand this is really important." 1257 01:23:34,468 --> 01:23:35,833 People listen to you. 1258 01:23:37,304 --> 01:23:38,465 Okay. 1259 01:23:43,185 --> 01:23:46,098 No matter what our particular job, 1260 01:23:46,480 --> 01:23:49,142 especially in our world today, 1261 01:23:49,858 --> 01:23:54,773 we all are called to be tikun olam, 1262 01:23:55,822 --> 01:23:58,814 "repairers of creation." 1263 01:24:00,202 --> 01:24:04,161 Thank you for whatever you do, wherever you are, 1264 01:24:04,331 --> 01:24:07,995 to bring joy and light and hope 1265 01:24:08,168 --> 01:24:12,036 and faith and pardon and love 1266 01:24:12,589 --> 01:24:15,502 to your neighbor and to yourself. 1267 01:24:35,529 --> 01:24:38,112 Fred didn't like going to the doctor's office. 1268 01:24:38,907 --> 01:24:42,866 He had stomach problems for a long time. I mean, for several years. 1269 01:24:43,245 --> 01:24:46,203 Oh, what's that right down there? 1270 01:24:49,251 --> 01:24:52,039 Take a look at the aquarium. Do you see a dead fish? 1271 01:24:53,547 --> 01:24:56,710 A dead fish would be one that isn't swimming 1272 01:24:57,050 --> 01:24:59,166 or breathing or anything at all. 1273 01:24:59,261 --> 01:25:00,968 Look down there and see, will you? 1274 01:25:01,138 --> 01:25:05,223 See if you see anything. Oh, yes, right there, isn't it? 1275 01:25:06,059 --> 01:25:07,539 He told me that he was sick. 1276 01:25:08,061 --> 01:25:10,803 I played a Bach Sarabande for him over the phone. 1277 01:25:11,273 --> 01:25:14,811 It's like sending a little loving message. 1278 01:25:23,410 --> 01:25:25,401 When he was very ill 1279 01:25:25,912 --> 01:25:29,075 he talked a lot about dying well, 1280 01:25:30,584 --> 01:25:34,919 to die with the hopes... 1281 01:25:35,255 --> 01:25:37,087 With the hopes intact. 1282 01:25:42,262 --> 01:25:45,550 Before he became comatose he said, 1283 01:25:46,099 --> 01:25:47,965 "Do you think I'm a sheep?" 1284 01:25:48,935 --> 01:25:51,677 And we knew what he was talking about because 1285 01:25:51,938 --> 01:25:55,681 he had been reading in the Bible about the Last Days, 1286 01:25:55,776 --> 01:25:57,187 with the Judgment. 1287 01:25:59,780 --> 01:26:02,522 It will be decided at the end 1288 01:26:02,658 --> 01:26:05,616 who is a sheep and who is a goat. 1289 01:26:07,704 --> 01:26:10,867 And I think the need was always there 1290 01:26:10,957 --> 01:26:15,372 for being loved, for being capable of being loved. 1291 01:26:17,964 --> 01:26:20,171 There was a little silence and then I said, 1292 01:26:20,258 --> 01:26:24,343 "Fred, if ever there was a sheep you're one." 1293 01:26:43,990 --> 01:26:46,197 Well, I suppose it's an invitation, 1294 01:26:47,160 --> 01:26:48,696 "Won't you be my neighbor?" 1295 01:26:49,663 --> 01:26:53,327 It's an invitation for 1296 01:26:54,501 --> 01:26:57,209 somebody to be close to you. 1297 01:26:57,379 --> 01:27:01,839 You know, I think everybody longs to be loved 1298 01:27:02,843 --> 01:27:07,337 and longs to know that he or she is lovable. 1299 01:27:10,684 --> 01:27:14,097 And consequently, the greatest thing that we can do 1300 01:27:14,896 --> 01:27:17,433 is to help somebody know 1301 01:27:18,567 --> 01:27:22,606 that they're loved and capable of loving. 1302 01:27:41,715 --> 01:27:44,798 Across the street from Fred's funeral, there's this hubbub 1303 01:27:44,968 --> 01:27:49,383 and there's all these people holding up signs saying, "God hates fags." 1304 01:27:50,140 --> 01:27:53,883 And I went and talked to them because Fred would have it no other way. 1305 01:27:55,228 --> 01:27:58,311 "L said," Are you condemning Fred? Are you saying that he was gay? 1306 01:27:58,398 --> 01:27:59,398 "What's happening?" 1307 01:28:00,066 --> 01:28:03,684 And they were saying that, "No, no, he just... He tolerated gays." 1308 01:28:04,070 --> 01:28:08,564 And so, they were intolerant of the tolerance. 1309 01:28:08,992 --> 01:28:13,281 And the thing that struck me that day more than anything else 1310 01:28:13,455 --> 01:28:15,446 was the children that were there. 1311 01:28:15,540 --> 01:28:20,751 Children that had been drafted into doing this work into standing there 1312 01:28:20,921 --> 01:28:23,913 with their parents and holding up signs and screaming. 1313 01:28:24,299 --> 01:28:29,089 And those kids looked so unhappy. 1314 01:28:29,346 --> 01:28:32,338 Those kids looked so exhausted. 1315 01:28:32,599 --> 01:28:36,467 Those kids looked so ill-treated. It was just heart-breaking. 1316 01:28:36,686 --> 01:28:39,599 And I knew that if Fred had seen that, 1317 01:28:39,773 --> 01:28:41,764 that's where his heart would have gone. 1318 01:28:59,543 --> 01:29:03,002 I can't think how he would feel about the things 1319 01:29:03,171 --> 01:29:04,957 that have come out 1320 01:29:05,632 --> 01:29:08,420 that seem to set us back so far. 1321 01:29:10,470 --> 01:29:11,656 And I wonder if he wouldn't 1322 01:29:11,680 --> 01:29:15,469 simply put down his tiger and just stay home, 1323 01:29:16,309 --> 01:29:18,016 forget about even trying. 1324 01:29:19,062 --> 01:29:21,474 He's not a person who would've given up, 1325 01:29:21,815 --> 01:29:23,431 but this is daunting. 1326 01:29:25,652 --> 01:29:28,519 I think he would be trying to mend... 1327 01:29:29,906 --> 01:29:35,492 Mend the split. 1328 01:29:39,040 --> 01:29:41,156 He would be trying to find some way 1329 01:29:43,044 --> 01:29:45,035 to find something positive. 1330 01:29:46,548 --> 01:29:50,166 When I was a boy and I would hear about something scary, 1331 01:29:50,343 --> 01:29:54,177 "my mother would tell us, "Always look for the people who are helping. 1332 01:29:54,764 --> 01:29:58,177 "You'll always find somebody who's trying to help." 1333 01:29:59,269 --> 01:30:02,512 I think there are a lot of people out there like Fred Rogers. 1334 01:30:03,064 --> 01:30:05,522 A lot more than we really want to believe. 1335 01:30:07,903 --> 01:30:10,110 In response to the question, 1336 01:30:10,405 --> 01:30:12,692 "What would Fred Rogers do?" 1337 01:30:13,283 --> 01:30:16,241 It's not a question that you can answer. 1338 01:30:17,871 --> 01:30:21,990 The most important question is, "What are you going to do?" 1339 01:30:22,542 --> 01:30:25,409 From the time you were very little, 1340 01:30:25,962 --> 01:30:30,331 you've had people who have smiled you into smiling. 1341 01:30:30,884 --> 01:30:34,752 People who have talked you into talking. 1342 01:30:35,555 --> 01:30:38,047 Sung you into singing. 1343 01:30:38,934 --> 01:30:41,471 Loved you into loving. 1344 01:30:41,937 --> 01:30:44,645 When he was giving speeches, he would say, 1345 01:30:44,773 --> 01:30:49,188 "Now, think about somebody who's helped you along the way" 1346 01:30:50,070 --> 01:30:53,062 "for one minute. I'm going to time you." 1347 01:30:55,075 --> 01:30:57,157 Let's just take some time 1348 01:30:57,494 --> 01:31:00,612 to think of those extra special people. 1349 01:31:04,584 --> 01:31:05,584 Mmm. 1350 01:31:06,127 --> 01:31:08,368 Some of them may be right here. 1351 01:31:09,631 --> 01:31:11,747 Some may be far away. 1352 01:31:12,926 --> 01:31:15,293 Some may even be in heaven. 1353 01:31:16,596 --> 01:31:20,590 No matter where they are, deep down you know 1354 01:31:20,767 --> 01:31:23,759 they've always wanted what was best for you. 1355 01:31:24,938 --> 01:31:28,272 They've always cared about you beyond measure 1356 01:31:29,275 --> 01:31:32,358 and have encouraged you to be true 1357 01:31:32,570 --> 01:31:34,652 to the best within you. 1358 01:31:49,629 --> 01:31:50,710 My mother. 1359 01:31:51,297 --> 01:31:55,632 How I got to this point, because it was my grandfather's doing. 1360 01:31:55,885 --> 01:32:00,004 There was this woman named Viola who used to take care of me 1361 01:32:00,098 --> 01:32:02,135 when I was little. She was our babysitter. 1362 01:32:03,226 --> 01:32:04,967 I thought about Fred. 1363 01:32:06,312 --> 01:32:07,312 How about you? 1364 01:32:25,665 --> 01:32:26,905 Thank you. 1365 01:32:32,672 --> 01:32:37,667 It's such a good feeling to know you're alive 1366 01:32:38,053 --> 01:32:42,718 It's such a happy feeling you're growing inside 1367 01:32:42,891 --> 01:32:46,384 And when you wake up ready to say 1368 01:32:46,728 --> 01:32:50,517 "I think I'll make a snappy new day" 1369 01:32:50,940 --> 01:32:55,400 It's such a good feeling A very good feeling 1370 01:32:55,570 --> 01:32:59,234 The feeling you know that we're friends 1371 01:32:59,407 --> 01:33:02,399 Please welcome, Jeffrey Erlanger. 1372 01:33:09,751 --> 01:33:13,210 I am so glad to see you. Thank you. You too. 1373 01:33:13,379 --> 01:33:16,917 Oh! What a surprise! 1374 01:33:42,408 --> 01:33:45,571 You help to make each day a special day 1375 01:33:45,662 --> 01:33:48,654 by just you're being yourself. 1376 01:33:48,748 --> 01:33:53,493 There is nobody else in the whole world who's exactly like you. 1377 01:33:53,586 --> 01:33:58,205 And people can like you exactly as you are. 1378 01:33:58,299 --> 01:34:00,461 You are special. 115803

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