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Inside this envelope is a huge advantage at the next immunity challenge.

200. 200 to Danny. Fold for 200 to Danny.

Switch positions with any player.

I'm going to switch with Steph.

Steph doesn't like it.

Steph is out.

Danny wins immunity.

Money well spent.

Money well spent. Nothing more valuable than this right now. Oh, I love this

thing.

Welcome to the Survivor Guatemala reunion. So we have all 18 of the folks

Survivor Guatemala going to check in with everybody tonight.

Starting with you, Danny. We showed that clip of you buying the immunity

advantage.

On day 31, you pay $200 for that. It saves you from getting voted out. Eight

days later, it's a million dollars. With my math, that's a 500 ,000 % return on

investment.

But seriously, that was critical for you, right? You were gone that night.

No, that was definitely the best move for me in that game.

Gosh, this is unbelievable. It's overwhelming.

That was money well spent, that's for sure. Because, you know, at this point

the game, it was all puzzles.

And I'm terrible at puzzles.

My family knows anything that's physical, I'm fine.

So I knew I was going to need a clue. Aside from buying that, what was the

move you made strategically in terms of who to vote out or who to keep in?

Probably at the end with Rafe, strategically getting him out at the end

Rafe was very well liked. And that's something I still deal with today

he's such an awesome guy, but we're here to win the game.

Rafe, you had...

You made a deal. You were going to the final two.

What was it that made you give it up? Was it really what you said about honor

were you influenced by Stephanie and her effort and crying and all that?

You know, I was definitely influenced by Steph and her effort, but I really

wanted Dani to make a decision that she'd look back now, look back five

from now, and be proud of the decision she made. I thought it would be to take

me to the final two, but, you know, it wasn't. And that's okay, because I

her to make what she'd be proud of. Well, Dani, I think you had mentioned to

at one point that the minute you realized this was going to be an

once everybody made it to the sort of leaning position, you started panicking,

thinking, what am I going to do? I can't take race.

Yeah.

When I was up there in that final immunity challenge, I kept thinking

family. And I have a huge family.

And I just knew I could bless them so much, you know, if I won the million

dollars. And I started thinking about them because if I came back and I hadn't

made that move, they would have killed me. I mean, they would have had my head

on a chopping block. And it's so funny. I kind of like to think of myself as

like a stealth bomber. Like in this game, I don't think anybody...

I never flew under the radar. I think they just beat the radar. They didn't

I was coming until after I dropped the bombs on them. Gary, that's a good point

she makes.

That's one of the questions I had. I never really saw Dani play in the game

until late. Was she just underrated?

I don't think she was underrated at all. I just think she just had a smile on

her face. She was honest. She worked hard, and it got her where she's at, and

that's awesome.

Ray.

Going back to giving up this immunity, because it seemed to me many times

throughout the game, you were morally conflicted. Should I? I could. I can't

the chicken, which is a whole other topic.

And then you give back what might have been a million dollars. We'll never know

what happened because you didn't get a chance to go to Final Two and make your

case. Could have been a million dollar give back.

Was that the hardest part of the game for you, the moral decisions?

Definitely. You know, I was looking at myself on day 38 as I watched Steph up

there and I watched Danny up there, and I was thinking, I truly am proud of

every decision. I made some hard decisions to get people out, and, you

was proud of it at the end, and I didn't want to on day 38.

throw that away just to try and win. I wanted to make a decision for that

council too that I was also proud of. Surprised a little at how well you did

physically. Four individual immunity wins. Pretty good.

You know, I don't think anyone here ever expected me to do well, and that's what

I went in, you know, I was like, I believe in myself, and I don't care what

everyone else thinks. I'm going to come out here, and every competition I go

into, I'm going to give it my best. I'm going to try to win it.

I think people did underestimate me the whole game out here, and I used it to my

advantage. Lydia, I'm going to ask you the question that I ask you, bless your

heart, at almost every tribal council.

Sooner or later, I would say, Lydia, how are you still in this game?

Well, Jeff, you know, I came in this game with a different kind of strategy.

And first and foremost, you know, being a mom, you know, nurturing compassion,

you know, that plays a big key in everybody, you know, for me to show

You know, also, although I'm not real athletic, you know, I was here as a

provider, and I think I did my job well, providing everybody food, my vote,

water, a clean camp, and a smile and motivation.

Well, and there's something to be said for that.

Your attitude in what was the toughest season we've done, your attitude

was remarkable.

Day after day, Lydia would show up and have.

She would have the smile on her face in light of everything else. Right, and I

just want to let everybody know a positive attitude and a good heart and a

kindred spirit, you know, will take you far. All right.

We're going to take a quick break. Up next, we're going to talk to Bobby John

and Stephanie, two people who returned to play a second time and in spite of

targets, played very well. Plus, we're going to hear from one survivor who was

never afraid to speak his mind. We are back.

Back to the Survivor Guatemala Live at Union show.

One of the big twists of this season was inviting back Stephanie and Bobby John

to play for a second time. And the appealing part of the dilemma was they

decide, those of you in the game, do we get rid of these two guys who've already

played or do we keep them around for their knowledge?

Steph, so coming in, you know you're going to have a target on your back.

How did that impact how you played this game from day one?

Well. For me coming in, it was pretty difficult because I was like, well, I'm

probably not going to get past the first council, first of all. So I'm going to

have to obviously do everything I can to try to get sort of far.

So the first thing on my mind is I'm going to have to take a leadership role.

can't sit back. I'm definitely going.

And make a good alliance. And I did. I made a major alliance with Ray and a few

other people, and it got me all the way to the end.

Were you worried? Because in Palau, the first time you played, you were sort of

the sweetheart.

And everybody loved Stephanie and how she played. Well, that's hard. That

expectation is hard to live up to a second time.

Did it go through your head, I might be risking the way people see me if I play

a tougher game?

Absolutely. I mean, I guess I did come off as America's sweetheart, but also

coming into Guatemala, I wasn't playing for seventh place.

So I knew that I had to play hard.

And I'm the same person I was on Palau. I mean, you may have seen a different

side of me, but that's me.

Take them both.

mash them together, it comes and I'm there. I don't know what, but I am who I

am. I'm a nice person, but I had to make some tough decisions, and I hurt a few

people along the way, but it's Survivor, and if you want to get to the end,

you've got to play hard, and I did. I'm really proud of it. Did you think going

to the end that you could win? Because as you said, as far as Judd, Jamie, and

Cindy are concerned, you're yesterday's news.

You cut their throats. That's three of the four votes Danny needs to win.

Yeah.

I actually, I came into the game and I thought I had a great chance at winning.

And then as I'm playing the game and kind of some of the reactions I got from

few people, I was like, wait a minute, I got a second chance.

If I get to the end, no one's going to vote for me.

So I kind of thought maybe I definitely won't win the game. So their best

strategy was probably to take me to the end because they're definitely going to

win against me. But at the same time, Rafe and I played the same game.

The same game. I may have come off a little differently, but we played the

game. And he may have won. I mean, you never know, but he may have won. That's

why Danny took me. It was a good move.

Another element of having both Bobby, John, and Steph was there was a sense of

starstruck, especially in the beginning. For some of you, not for everybody.

Amy's shaking her head. Hell no.

Thanks, Danny. Cindy, without question, you even said it. One of the challenges,

you said part of the reason I'm on this show is Stephanie.

that if she can do that, I can do it, and maybe better.

Fair enough.

Gary, I know from talking to you, you sense even more than just inspiration.

You sense a bit of, wow, that's Stephanie and Bobby John.

And how did that impact the game from you as a new player playing?

Well, I'm a big Survivor fan, and Stephanie was one of my favorites, and

Bobby John and Plow.

And I think they used it to their advantage. And that's smart playing, so

got to give them credit.

Okay, but I'm not going to let you off the hook.

I want to hear the truth, which is you've told me before that you think it

impact the game because for a while people were kind of like, it's just cool

be around these two people.

There's no doubt.

people were asking him question after question and you know and Stephanie was

just given answers and it was people were look after she was on TV for how

in the previous season and there's no doubt that There was some people that

really really glad she was there. Well, I have to say Steph in Two seasons you

definitely set a couple of records 46 challenges you took part in you won 10

lost 36 times on the flip side you survived enough to

make it through 25 tribal councils. Now, you got voted out twice, but it really

does say a lot for how well you played this game, because it's tough to survive

that many votes.

So, hats off to you for that.

Now, you had a bond with Judd that seemed very tight, and when Judd was

voted out, it was a blindside, and it led to one of the best...

exit lines I think we've ever had. Remember this?

Thirteenth person voted out of Survivor Guatemala.

Judd. Thanks, guys.

Hope you guys all get bit by a freaking crocodile.

Scumbags.

You say you're brutally honest. Brutally honest.

Yeah, you were every single day brutally honest.

What is the relationship between you and Steph? Because that night, it was not

good. Steph's awesome.

I mean, you know, nobody hates to lose.

There's nothing fun about losing, so I was pretty PO'd.

She's still a good girl. She played hard.

What's been the perception, because you're adornment.

in a big city where you meet a lot of people every day, what's been the

from people? Do they recognize you and what's their take on how you play? Yeah,

no, they look at me and they say, holy cow, that's the big fat dude from

Survivor. The big mouth.

Oh, that's it, man. That's it, I'm telling you.

So you're okay because a lot of people would say you were a villain this

And you're okay with that. That's Judd. Yeah, like I said, brutally honest.

You know, I said it the way it was and I got no regrets whatsoever.

Is it?

That's a good way to play this game, for sure.

What's the status with Margaret? Because I got to say, I've been through a lot

of tribal councils. I've never seen anybody stand up and do the speech you

to Margaret about ADD and all that stuff.

You know what? That was just part of my strategy.

What can I tell you? No hard feelings, Margaret, whatsoever.

Oh, nice. One thing I have to clear up, Judd.

You did lie in this game.

Because even after we outed you for lying about the idol, when you got voted

in your confessional, you said, I don't know. I mean, I never lied.

I'm looking at the TV going, who is this guy?

Yeah, but, you know, the night before I lied, the night before I lied, I kind of

had a big party. And, you know, it was still a little going into the next day.

This is what it's like at Tribal Council.

So I felt like Santa Claus, and I said, it's on the ground.

Bobby John said if I told him it was in a water, he would have jumped in the

water.

Speaking of Bobby John, Bobby John, also, big target on your back. You come

this game as one of the toughest, one of the strongest guys, and on day one,

eyes rolling in the back of your head.

That trek obviously surprised you. Even you, a guy built for this game in a lot

of ways. No, it did. It beat me right down on my back. I mean, I felt

embarrassed.

It pretty much humbled me in more ways than one, I think. Did you come in also

with a different strategy? Because I know at the end of Palau, it seemed like

you were starting to realize there's some strategy to how you play people in

game. Well, you've got to mash the gas in order for the car to go. And that's

the whole thing about this game. If you think you can just work and be nice and

be sweet and go through this game and not get voted out, that's not going to

happen. What was it you said just now? You have to what?

Something about mashing the gas in the car.

What's great about you, Bobby John, is...

Still, after how many people played this game, you have to be one of the most

authentic and endearing guys to ever be on here.

And yet, sometimes that authenticity explodes to the guy next to you.

Before we get to that, I have to say, watching you two guys from the South go

it, I mean, sometimes it was heated, but it was always entertaining.

I just want to remind you kind of what it was like. Take a look at this.

Alabama and Georgia kind of have rivals.

Just shut up, dude. I mean, God.

So, Jamie, obviously the status of the friendship is fine at this point.

It's good to know there's still some good old country boys around. I love

kid.

Love him.

Were you really losing your mind out there?

I heard there was a vote tonight.

I almost didn't come.

A little paranoid.

Promise you won't vote for me?

Don't keep lying to me, Ray.

Ray!

Because, you know, that...

That seemed to be a real reason that people voted you out, as they thought,

Ray said, he won't quit asking me if I'm going to vote him out. I'm getting

tired of him. I'm going to vote him out.

Once you were voted out, did you have a period where you realized, I think I

was, seriously, kind of losing it out there? I was definitely losing a little

bit out there. I admit that.

But I was also a competitor also, so it goes both ways.

I think I was just losing a little bit.

It happens. What happens? They played a game and they got me.

All right. Well, up next, Gary said he never played in the NFL, but Danny knew

better. How did she know?

Plus, which survivor wishes she was still living in the jungles of

We'll get her story after this.

Who do you think I want?

Oh, I thought you played with him so much ago.

I don't know. Maybe he just doesn't want anybody to know he was a former

professional quarterback.

I'll call the locals over there. Can you give me the lowdown on Mr. Gary

Hawkins, ex -professional football player? Ex -professional football? Yeah,

wish. If you want, and I found it after, I ain't going to beat you down.

Welcome back to the Survivor Guatemala reunion show. Now, the whole need

for that lie actually started because Danny

recognizes you 10 minutes into the show. How did you know who Hogeman was?

Well, I work in sports radio back in Kansas City for Sports Radio 610, and

huge sports fanatic, but I wouldn't have recognized him if I hadn't been for

growing up with seven brothers and a dad who was a Cowboys fan, just seeing

pictures around him, because when we were at casting, for the show, I was

he looks familiar.

First off, I thought he was like Brett Favre.

And I went back, and I'm like, gosh, I recognize him. And then...

You went to Central Michigan State, and you go up there, and there's like a

shrine of Gary there at Central Michigan State. So it was kind of funny. It was

kind of ironic. And you ended up at Central Michigan State on a lark going

see a game.

Yeah, we just were up there.

So, Gary, you show up. This is your worst nightmare.

She spotted you three different times already.

Yeah, it really was. I didn't expect anybody to spot me just because of the

differences and everything, but I figured I had to go in with a different

just to get as far as I could in the game, but it shocked me.

So you had the alter ego planned from day one anyway.

Yes, I did.

And did you hear from any of your NFL buddies?

You know, they just wanted to know what the heck I was doing on the show.

What are you doing, man?

I love the show.

Amy, so you're suspicious the whole time.

And then you finally find out what was the reaction. Did you call Gary? What

happened? Oh, you have no idea. I wanted to beat him down, baby.

Grand Haven.

Okay,

you are a detective sergeant in the major crime unit. Reveal PD.

In major crime unit. What's up? Reveal PD. I got to say hello.

So what's the reaction? Do people recognize you?

Yes. Every time I go to lock up a bad guy, they're like, hey, weren't you on

Survivor? I'm like, listen, buddy, you're under arrest.

For a second here, let's just acknowledge some real changes in

starting with you, Amy. You look fantastic.

Thank you.

And at the other end, Judd, how much did you lose?

45 pounds. 45 pounds.

Well,

for all of the pain and suffering of this show, Cindy, you enjoyed this so

You still wish, is this true that you still wish you were living in the

of Guatemala?

Yeah, I do wish. I mean, I go to sleep at night. I try to go to sleep at night,

and I close my eyes, and I constantly imagine the sounds of the jungle and

imagine what the ground felt like and the smell of the fire.

You know people think you're slightly nuts for thinking that. I know they do,

but anybody that knows me very well all knows that that is really Cindy.

I felt like I left a part of who I am in the Guatemalan jungle, and when I left

for tribal council that night, I thought I might go home tonight, and I really

felt like I was leaving home, and I was never going to get to come back.

And you actually lost your job to be on this show when you went for your first

meeting with us. I did lose my job, and that was my other home. The two things

that people know about me within the first five minutes of meeting me was she

wants to be on Survivor, and she loved her job at the zoo.

It's the two things everybody knew.

So, I mean, I lost my job at the zoo to pursue the dream of Survivor, and then

when I left that night thinking it might be my last night, I thought, okay,

well, this one's over, too.

And I just feel like that those...

Part of me is gone, and I feel like I left home, and I was never going to come

back. Which begs the big question. You had a rare opportunity with this car

curse.

So everybody that has won that challenge in 11 seasons has never went on to win

the game. We gave you a chance not only to, quote, unquote, get rid of the

curse, whatever that is, but also to give four other people a car.

Rafe, do you think if she had made a different decision, Would it have kept

in until the final four?

You know, it's hard to say what you would have done at that time because

not in that situation.

I would have thought maybe it would have, but if we'd been there and we

her out, she would have lost everything. So, you know, she did get the car and

she has a Pontiac and she can drive to Guatemala.

Speaking of going back to Guatemala, Margaret, up in the top row, you had

good experience and connected so much with Guatemala. I heard that you're

actually going back there to do some relief work.

Yes, I am. I'm very excited.

Francis Ping Bolton, School of Nursing at Case Western, is teaming up with me,

and I'm going back with Brian Corden, and we're leading a group of university

students to help in the relief effort.

After we left Guatemala, The mudslides devastated them and buried hundreds of

people alive. So we're excited about going back.

And also, to your credit, those first

few days, we actually monitored a lot of what was going on out there through

your interviews with the show because it was like triage for those first few

days. And you had Blake in your lap several times trying to keep him going.

Now, Blake, you had a couple of things going on out there. One, you were the

that was going to be the strong guy in all this, and that was changed right

away. But the part that I kind of remember and take the joy of is golden

the term that everybody gave you. Amy, you want to feel this one?

I gave him this. Go ahead.

Well, because you said that we kind of covered that about that everything he

touches sort of.

Yeah. Question I have is this.

When you described your girlfriend, for those people who saw that episode, you

went into great detail about your girlfriend. And I just wondered, what

reaction when you're sitting at home watching that with her?

You know, she laughed.

She knows me and loves me very much and knows how I feel about her. And

actually, the funnier part was when her father called me and said, I can't

believe my.

My daughter's breath got you kicked off Survivor.

All right, on that note, this was, without a doubt, the toughest season

ever done, and we're going to hear a little more about that when we return,

updates from a few other people up here. But first, here's a clip that you

didn't see on the show. This is the moment that helped keep Gary alive when

found the hidden immunity idol.

I've been looking in the seba tree.

Well, lo and behold, I see the idol.

This is highly secret.

I'm going to keep it till I need it, which could be tonight.

Your first challenge. It is a grueling 11 -mile race through the

jungles of Guatemala.

Judd, you okay back there?

These big, strong guys.

Strong as losses, and they're all down.

I have open, festering sores.

And it sucks.

Welcome back to the Survival Guatemala reunion show.

Brandon, that was your shoulder. We were looking at that at the end. When you

see that...

What goes through your head when you try to describe what that 11 -mile trek

through a dense jungle was like? How do you do it?

I don't know. It's pretty indescribable. I mean, 11 miles through thick jungle,

carrying bags of corn, I mean, it explains itself. It is really, really

difficult. Ever done anything that compares to that?

I did a little hiking in Montana over the mountains and everything, but

like that. I mean, it was really tough.

You seem also like Rafe a little bit that the tough part of this game for you

was the moral compass. At a certain point, you decided there are certain

I'm going to do and certain things I will not do.

Would you play the game differently now that you see it is just a game, or was

that your line?

No, I think I'd play the game the same pretty much. I mean, that's how I went

into the game, wanted to play a really strong, clean game. But the game really

brings out, I mean...

A lot of ugliness. It's a really mean game, you know. And I tried to bring a

little bit of light and, you know, do good.

I think you did. I think your attitude did bring some light.

Jim.

Jim, you come into this game with a lot of years of experience in different

areas, certainly in the fire department.

And then early on, you know, you have a freak accident.

Can three days in still feel like the survivor experience?

The arm's doing good, and I'm going to Disneyland.

Brian, on the other corner, when we met you about being on this show, you were,

I'm the greatest student in the game, Jeff. There's no one that can outfox me.

can do anything. Let me tell you that.

As a student of the game.

I can't even say it. I'll just wait. Go ahead.

No, you were on the show because you were fantastic, and you did know the

and you did seem to have a very good understanding of strategy.

What didn't you anticipate?

you know, luck is a huge, huge part of the game. And when you're like, oh,

got the most tribe pride?

And then, oh, Brian, okay, well, screw you, you're in the minority.

You know, and I'm like, okay.

So, you know, luck is just a huge part of the game, and you really need to go

into this game wanting to win, playing hard, but being okay with the luck

factor, you know. And, of course, I could have overcome it, I think, if I

had stronger bonds with Gary and Amy. But, fact that matters, my game really

changed when I was swapped over, or when I stayed in your shop.

You know, you have to be okay with luck playing a factor. And I give you a hard

time, and I'm not picking on you. You really were delightful to have on the

because you're so well -spoken, and you are a good strategist. You maneuvered.

You helped get Blake out of the game, no doubt about it.

Blake's not buying it.

Danny wanted to deserve it, you know. Yeah.

On the other end, Brooke.

You get right away. You're leading this tribe through the jungle you sort of got

labeled it sounded like anyway as the smart Person is that something that can

hurt you in this game? Is that really why you were voted out is because people

saw you early on as a threat?

I think in some ways, like, my first original team appreciated me because I

smart, because I'd use the compass, things like that, you know. And it was

that, like, Brandon got labeled as the farm boy.

But here, I'd grown up on a farm my entire life. You know, law school was

the last three years of my life, but no one ever called me a farm girl once.

And then when I got on my new team, I think Jamie, Judd, and Stephanie just

said, oh, law school girl's got to go. She's not the athletic one, so we're

going to get her out of here.

Brianna.

All right.

A couple of yeahs.

Simply, to me, watching this game seemed to overwhelm you.

That was my take. Am I wrong?

No, you're not wrong at all, actually. It was very overwhelming. It was

extremely, I mean, it was brutal. I'm not going to lie. And I still don't know

what a pick is, and I don't really care.

But did you have fun?

Did you have a good time?

I had a great time. I had a really awesome time. My friends at the Seattle

Supersonics are definitely teaching me some things.

Morgan, same question.

It surprised me that you got voted off so early.

It surprised me, too.

And I still wonder, because some people are so competitive, that six days that

you lasted would not be enough. You'd say, you know, I didn't even get my feet

wet. You know, everything happens. Sure, it wasn't enough, but everything does

happen for a reason. And my experience getting voted off kind of made it all

worth it.

But I never expected myself to do as well physically.

And so I thought that I was doing so good in this game. And, you know, like

said, you can't just be nice.

and win this game.

And yet all you can really be in this game is who you are ultimately.

And that's why I have no regrets because I was true to myself and I really

impressed myself.

So I just have to be proud of that.

Well, you guys give us a great season in a very, very tough situation.

Tomorrow morning on The Early Show here on CBS, Danny is going to get a check

for a million dollars.

And also as part of the prize for winning Survivor Guatemala, she wins the

Pontiac Torrent.

Take a look at your ride.

And as this season comes to a close, a new season is just around the corner.

We'll tell you all about it when we come right back.

with a couple of twists. We're going to catch the next group of Survivors by

surprise.

Next season, Survivor travels to a stunning location with an all -new

In the exotic waters of Panama sits a tiny island of exile that will play into

the game like never before.

Each week, at least one castaway will be banished to this desolate place,

separated from their tribe mates for days at a time in one of the most

unforgiving environments yet.

Strategy will be turned on its head, and survival will take on a whole new

meaning.

And though this island will be a place to be feared,

Something hidden within its rocky shores may be the key to $1 million and the

title of soul, Survivor.

The 16 new castaways will be divided into tribes in a way never before seen.

Who will outwit, outplay, and outlast all the others?

Join us as the adventure continues with Survivor Panama, Exile Island.

You can do so immediately following the show. Go to survivor -auction .com at

eBay. All kind of props up for bid. We've raised a million and a half

for the Elizabeth Glazer Pediatric AIDS Foundation.

And we will see you soon for Survivor Panama Exile Island. Thank you, guys.

Great season.

Good night.