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that one is always a handful Stratus
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from Billy Cobham spectrum we cut that
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in 1973 this is the bass I played on the
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track so I was trying to get this as
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close as possible to where we were gonna
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set this rascal down here and tell you
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about it when I was in the group the
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section we were managed by Peter Asher
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and also handled by his partner at the
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time now twice now now twice was
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handling Mahavishnu Orchestra because I
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remember we were on the road at one
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point with James Taylor and that called
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and called couch and I in our rooms he
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said you guys got to come to my room and
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hear something on I'm I don't know what
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it is
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and we went to his room and he played us
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the first test pressing of the first
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Mahavishnu record which completely
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melted our brains and couch and I just
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looked and said play that again right I
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mean we could not believe what we were
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hearing that band was so unbelievable it
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was nothing nothing else like it and but
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because of the relationships we had with
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Peter and with Matt we ended up being in
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the opening act form up for Mahavishnu
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Orchestra for about six weeks we sat
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there every night I spent the first week
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trying to find one because they have all
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these amazing time you know odd time
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signatures and stuff which to those guys
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had become so natural but we were just
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groping away a hint is trying to figure
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with that
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are these guys doing Jerry Goodman was
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such a monstrous violinist Billy is
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probably one of the greatest drummer
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several mcLaughlin there's nobody that
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played guitar like him
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Rick Laird is was the perfect bass
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player for the group and Yann hammer
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brought that whole Eastern European
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mentality to it so we were on the road
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with them one of the things I remember
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that was most amazing was we were
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playing the Mississippi River Festival
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and we had played our set in and of
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course after we played our set we hung
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out you know in the wings and just you
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know just dug the cat's and at one point
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Cobham was taking a drum solo and he had
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double kick drums and he broke his right
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bass drum pedal during the course of his
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solo so he doubled up his left foot and
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doubled up his left hand reached down
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unscrewed his pedal took it off while
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he's soloing put the new pedal on and
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then went right back to it once and I
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looked at each other what holy this
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happened now I've seen it all well
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during the course of that tour where you
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all became really good friends and so
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after the tour was over we were actually
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in the studio and just finishing up a
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section album and Billy called me from
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New York and he said would you consider
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coming to New York I got a solo record
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deal I think he had had some different
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thoughts about different plays bass
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players but he ended up calling me to to
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come and do it and so I said oh
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absolutely I'd love to of course in the
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back of my head I'm going what the hell
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did you just commit to you because I've
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been sitting watching this beast every
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night and just going man that's like
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stepping out of the frying pan right
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into the fire but I went and took a flew
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out on a Sunday because we were in the
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studio at Electric Ladyland on Monday
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and Tuesday because basically we cut all
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of our tracks I think it was two days I
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don't know if it was three I think it
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was two because almost every track on
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the
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is a first or second take at the most
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but I got to the studio ken scott was
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engineering it who's one of the greatest
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engineers ever and it was a it was an
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amazing experience today but the thing
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that blew my mind the most was in the
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late 60s I was in a band called Wolfgang
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and we were handled by a company called
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shady management which was the most
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aptly named management company due to
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what went on with them but one of the
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other acts that they had was a band
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called a zephyr and Tommy Bolin was the
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guitarist in Zephyr and so Tommy and I
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had spent time on the road in the late
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62 the 60s together well in 1973 I go
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walking into Electric Ladyland and
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there's Tommy and at this point I mean
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he had been doing I think he had been in
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the James Gang he had been doing deep
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purple I was just so surprised me and my
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old bud was was there so it was a great
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hang and I think one of the things that
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made this record really stand the test
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of time and still feels fresh today as
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it did in 1973 is the fact that Billy
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and young were coming at it kind of like
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it's jazz fusion players and Tommy and I
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were coming at it from the direction of
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rock fusion and I think that that kind
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of amalgamation really made this a
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special album I mean I'm so proud of
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this album I mean just playing it just
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now it's really what I'm played that in
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a long time and it's one of those songs
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that man everybody's got to be really
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sonically connected together so once
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again sitting here with a loud bass amp
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next to me and a little speaker playing
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the track is is the antithesis of how I
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like to think of things so it's hard for
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me to like really dig deep into the
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groove when I'm hearing it in this
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really off-balance but I'm not gonna put
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headphones on and get into this whole
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studio thing oh yeah I figured this is
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loose as a goose and I'm just gonna
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enjoy it but it was it was an incredible
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experience we spent all our time
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going running having a runner go down
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the street that there was an Orange
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Julius down the street from the studio
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and for some reason we got sucked into a
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strawberry Julius's liked drinking that
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the whole time and then when we finished
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the last session we went there was a
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fabulous Indian restaurant in New York
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City that's no longer there called
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nirvana right on Central Park and we
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went there and had dinner afterwards and
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then I flew home and basically it was so
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strange because for years and years guys
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would say oh man you know just write a
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spectrum all that man they would go
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Jesus you know let's jam and I'm going
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you guys have been gigging this crap in
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clubs for years and I only played it
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once or twice in the studio and never
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played it again and it was like one
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every time I would bump into Jeff Beck
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he just always comes with me goes
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Stratos Stratos because he played he
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always does that in his set he loves
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that song and he said that album really
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kind of changed his head about how he
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plays and everything so I just thought I
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would get this one get this one out
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there but it's Yann hammer on keyboards
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Tommy Bolin on guitar myself and Billy
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Cobham now everything on this record is
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live there was no fixes and if you
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listen I think it's the track as tarean
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Matador the beauty of an instrumental
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album is you can call stuff anything you
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wanted so this is tarean Matador but if
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you listen really closely to it there's
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a point at which young hammer and Tommy
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Bolin are trading licks back and forth
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and you hear Tommy going Riario but what
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happens is you hear right right right
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and he broke his e string in the middle
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of his solo man did not face him for a
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second he just pulled it went right on
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Bloo played the heads I mean it is not
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fixed there was no punches
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nothing was was tidied up after the
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course of this project it is raw it's
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just raw energy brutal brutal energy
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then there were two other tracks that
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they did after I left they were big band
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tracks and Ron Carter played upright on
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them and if I ever had to share bass
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duties on a record with somebody
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man could not ask for anybody more
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amazing than Ron Carter in fact I just
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we were just emailing the other day and
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he said he's a remarkable musician and a
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remarkable presence in the world of
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music so so that is Stratus and I
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remember we buffoon we Billy called me
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and it was the 30th anniversary of this
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album and he said you want to go gig it
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it's like you don't want to rush into
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these things let's let's wait 30 years
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before we ever play this again but I
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said I'd love to and he got Dean Brown
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because um tragically Tommy Bolin died
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very young he was 28 when he passed away
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so there was no Tommy Bolin and Tommy
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was one of the greatest guitar players
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that ever strapped on that instrument
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everything everything you hear on this
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record when you when you dig into this
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is live all his solos are live sitting
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there all he had was his old Echoplex
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with him and he played an Echoplex as
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though it was a completely other
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instrument but so Dean Brown had the
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guitar seat and Gary husband who can be
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a monstrous drummer was the keyboard
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player on it and and we did like I think
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it was like 16 shows in 18 days or
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something wrong in a van man it was like
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just bitchin it was like 2003 I think
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and when we did that I remember playing
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a gig in and I think it was at like
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Buffalo or somewhere up there in New
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York and we were doing these clubs and
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we're doing two sets a night like 80
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minutes and that we were doing all of
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spectrum and doing some stuff from
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crosswinds but I remember sitting there
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and there was a guy in the front row
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watching he was focused on me they are
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watching me play and I suddenly realized
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he had binoculars and he's watching me
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like this and he's only ten feet away
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from me me I'm not sure if he was
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looking to see if I had you know a
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cuticle or a hair in my nose or
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something it was just almost stopped
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playing because I was just kind of
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freaking out what is this dude up to but
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but I look back on this album as
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the greatest times I had in the studio
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I'm so proud of this Billy it was just
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the most remarkable group of people yawn
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hammer Jesus I mean that guy his thumb
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work on mini mug is like nobody could
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beat it and Robert Moog was at the
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studio so at the very beginning I just
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left a tiny bit but there's a bunch of
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little sections in this album where you
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hear like it's almost like a sequencing
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thing
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it's Billy playing like the first
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electronic drums Moe brought them down
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to the studio and they were
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experimenting with them so there was
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lots of things that went on on this
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thing but so I had this base and a
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little univox amp that was my first kind
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of real amp and I think it had a single
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12 in it and they set me up right in
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front of Billy so needless to say I
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could not hear through this whole
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thing of what I was doing but it was
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great we went over the heads of each
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song with Yann just to see because Tommy
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couldn't read music and Jana had
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sketched some things out for me but
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basically this is what we are we all
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contributed to it so that's today I'll
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probably get something otherworldly
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tomorrow but I just wanted to get this
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one done because a lot of people have
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asked about it had I had a better mix I
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could have dug into the pocket a little
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bit deeper on it but man it's one of
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those funny songs every time I see
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anybody there's lots and lots of covers
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of it on YouTube lots of people have
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done it and it seems like they get to
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about four six bars into it and they
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start adding a lot of stuff to it
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because it gets boring but I think the
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thing that worked for me on this thing
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was the fact that it never moved it's
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all tension based that that lick just
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keeps on going and going well Billy's
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playing all around and the guys are
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soloing around it that thing that groove
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just stays right there and and I really
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feel that that was the thing that made
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my part on that thing work is as good as
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it did so I hope everybody's doing okay
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I'm you know
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once again I'm doing my shoutout because
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I think we all have to give a serious
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shout-out every day to the people that
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are making this world it's tolerable an
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experience as it can be under these
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really adverse circumstances all the
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people I just I was up this morning I
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had to go to ace hardware because I'm
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building something at home I had to get
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parts for that and I went to Trader
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Joe's and pick up some things and and
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stuff and I'm looking at all these
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people you know working these places all
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messed up and gloved up and behind
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Plexiglas and I'm just thinking god
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bless you guys you know I mean it's like
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they're really putting out every day and
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all of the the medical staffs and I'm
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watching the news and all these people
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talking about you know the horror of it
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all that they're working so hard and
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they're still losing people and then the
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frustration of suddenly people are all
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thinking well we've just got to get back
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to normal so let's all start gathering
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again and man they're gonna be
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inundating these already over staffed
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and overworked
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I mean overworked and understaffed
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hospitals with people because as soon as
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these big crowds gather this is
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gonna be like pouring gasoline on a fire
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I wish it wasn't that way but it is that
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way and and there's this encouragement
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now to get people out there and let's
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return to normal there is nothing normal
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about what is going on right now if it
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was normal I'd be preparing to go to
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Zurich to do a concert I was supposed to
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be doing and doing an album project with
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an Argentinean artist and but a lot of
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stuff a gig we do every year at the
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Library of Congress for ASCAP a trip you
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know a tour in Japan all these things
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everything's shelved right now it's all
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maybe gonna be rescheduled or just done
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next year or whenever but be smart be
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smart please God don't you know don't be
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stupid about this I saw people trying to
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get into Trader Joe's without masks on
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because we're still and I have he said
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and they stole them no you can't come in
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and I thank you thank you for that I
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mean why shouldn't 95% of people be
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busting their balls in there to try to
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keep the place clean and a senator
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Russell and some comes walking in
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you know like nothing's going on so I
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was glad that they they told the people
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get out of here and come back when
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you've got covering so that's enough of
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my lecturing today just thank you thank
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you so much to everybody who's working
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so hard to do this I'm loving this page
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I'm gonna stay with it as long as people
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want to come here and hear tunes I'll
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keep digging stuff up some stuff I may
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not get to I mean there's a lot of
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requests for you know a bunch of Toto
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stuff and Toto stuff was a real handful
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and I'll have to see what kind of you
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know time I can really devote I don't
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want to completely suck when I play this
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stuff so I've got to devote some energy
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to relearning things that I haven't
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played in years and so not like riding a
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bike you know I don't just get on and
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pedal down the street everything I don't
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have a great memory for stuff I have to
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work at it it doesn't come that easy but
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but I want to do it right so look at you
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all take good care of yourselves maybe
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I'll wear a different color t-shirt next
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time I'll go dig through and see if I
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have another color blue or another black
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I wear my dress black t-shirt rather
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than my casual black t-shirt so love you
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guys you take good care and I'm still
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collating pictures so that book will
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happen once all this is done and I can
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get out of the house and meet with the
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guy who is going to be helping me with
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my finger book that's a whole other
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discussion and we've got another song
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we're doing another song with the
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immediate family for a cappella and
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Judith Owen has it we just did SOS the
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Abba tune on acapella and she's got
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another one that she's gonna be sending
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me and we're gonna work on her trying to
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just keep busy you know musically and
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keep keep fresh with this and not sit
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here and stagnate so take good care see
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you tomorrow bye28883
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