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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,859 --> 00:00:03,340 Tom, leading Karar. 2 00:00:03,620 --> 00:00:05,080 All right, here we go. Pick it up. 3 00:00:05,300 --> 00:00:07,560 Tom wins the first individual immunity. 4 00:00:08,820 --> 00:00:09,820 Tom's got it. 5 00:00:10,180 --> 00:00:12,140 Karar. I hit him with the machine. 6 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:13,440 Oh, my God. 7 00:00:13,540 --> 00:00:14,479 And where? 8 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:15,500 He keeps one -upping me. 9 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:20,040 You know, you can only taunt me so long before I strike back at you. The 10 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:23,360 difference is Tom, he's a man. He's a man among men. 11 00:00:39,500 --> 00:00:43,540 For the first time, we have all 20 of this season's survivors back together. 12 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:47,380 Great season. Going to cover as much as we can, starting with Tom. 13 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:48,880 Congratulations. 14 00:00:53,940 --> 00:00:55,540 Obviously, this is your hometown. 15 00:00:56,020 --> 00:00:57,980 We've got a lot of crowds. Yeah, New York. 16 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:05,560 And I've got to say, Tom, you know, well -deserved. 17 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,000 It was a season that there was a lot of domination. 18 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:13,280 Your tribe, Karora, dominated. You guys won 11 of 14 challenges, a survivor 19 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:17,880 record. And you won five of seven individual challenges. Also, another 20 00:01:18,020 --> 00:01:22,780 So you cannot say you don't deserve this. You didn't play it well. What was 21 00:01:22,780 --> 00:01:24,160 plan going in? 22 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:27,020 Because you had a very clear strategy how to get here. 23 00:01:28,890 --> 00:01:33,650 Actually, the way that this played out, I owe it to a good friend of mine and my 24 00:01:33,650 --> 00:01:37,770 wife, most importantly, who when I started concocting plans of the role I 25 00:01:37,770 --> 00:01:42,350 play out there in Palau, and they both just slapped me around and said, you've 26 00:01:42,350 --> 00:01:44,230 got to go in there and be yourself. It's a winning strategy. 27 00:01:44,750 --> 00:01:49,470 I thought I was going to be able to hide underneath my gray hair. And, you know, 28 00:01:49,530 --> 00:01:54,090 it didn't happen too well. So I kind of, if anything, I played a lousy strategy 29 00:01:54,090 --> 00:01:55,690 game because I didn't hide well. 30 00:01:55,930 --> 00:01:58,430 So it all had to play it all out. This is why you won. 31 00:01:58,830 --> 00:02:04,750 Right there. That answer of saying nothing but just clearly not offending 32 00:02:04,750 --> 00:02:05,750 anybody. 33 00:02:06,990 --> 00:02:11,030 Obviously, the two people next to you, key. The relationship with Katie and Ian 34 00:02:11,030 --> 00:02:12,730 formed at the beginning. 35 00:02:12,990 --> 00:02:13,990 First night. 36 00:02:14,170 --> 00:02:17,650 Very unusual to see an alliance make it that long. 37 00:02:18,250 --> 00:02:24,370 And Katie, let's address the fact you took a lot of heat in that final tribal 38 00:02:24,370 --> 00:02:25,370 council. You think? 39 00:02:25,850 --> 00:02:26,850 Greg. 40 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:28,679 Where's Greg? 41 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:33,360 This is what I want to know. She made a good point of saying, look, I'm not the 42 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:38,500 most physically gifted, but my strategy was to find two people strong and attach 43 00:02:38,500 --> 00:02:39,500 myself to them. 44 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:41,480 Why was there so much animosity? 45 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:47,020 You know, there was, and it's unfortunate because when I was on the 46 00:02:47,100 --> 00:02:50,240 outside of the game, I looked at these people as characters, and I didn't take 47 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:52,060 into account the personal relationships that I had. 48 00:02:52,420 --> 00:02:57,000 And I can tell you that Katie, for 33 days for me, She did entertain me. She 49 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,500 my friend, and she articulated her strategy very well. 50 00:02:59,920 --> 00:03:03,580 I mean, I love her, and I love our friendship, and for some reason, she was 51 00:03:03,580 --> 00:03:06,480 a character over there, and I lay it into her, and I feel horrible about it. 52 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:10,980 Well, and you also said something to me before the show that, as far as you were 53 00:03:10,980 --> 00:03:15,460 concerned, the game wasn't over, and you wanted them to earn this vote. This 54 00:03:15,460 --> 00:03:18,720 game is about being accountable for your actions, and I do believe... 55 00:03:18,990 --> 00:03:23,270 in the context of the game, that you need to pay the price to keep the game 56 00:03:23,270 --> 00:03:27,210 pure, and you need to put people in the hot seat. I can tell you that as soon as 57 00:03:27,210 --> 00:03:31,230 I asked my question to Katie, I lost focus, I didn't know what was going on, 58 00:03:31,230 --> 00:03:34,690 as soon as we cast our votes, I went over and I gave both of them a hug and a 59 00:03:34,690 --> 00:03:36,010 kiss, and I said, great game. 60 00:03:37,210 --> 00:03:42,170 This is what it's about. That was my last move, but my last move was that 61 00:03:42,170 --> 00:03:45,750 question, but the hug and kiss is where it matters. Katie, you seem completely 62 00:03:45,750 --> 00:03:46,750 surprised. 63 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:52,420 By the by the animosity towards you which surprised me Knowing what I 64 00:03:52,420 --> 00:03:55,800 even a tribal council there were a few people you should have you could have 65 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:59,120 naturally assumed We're not going to like you based on what you said about 66 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:04,680 and making you new comes to mind, you know first So why were you so surprised 67 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:07,440 that there were going to be some people frustrated with you? Well, I wasn't 68 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:10,900 surprised by you know, I went in knowing I wasn't probably gonna answer her 69 00:04:10,900 --> 00:04:16,540 question That's another thing while we're on it You make it all the way. You 70 00:04:16,540 --> 00:04:18,660 make it all the way to day 39. 71 00:04:19,220 --> 00:04:23,680 There are seven votes. It takes four to win, and you gave one up. You just gave 72 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:24,680 it up. 73 00:04:24,740 --> 00:04:28,880 I didn't give it up. I mean, I knew going in. How many times did I say, I 74 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:32,720 not win against Tom. I tried to take him out. I love him, but come on. 75 00:04:32,980 --> 00:04:35,780 You can't beat this guy. Was your mind made up? 76 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:38,240 It was, Jeff. It was. All right. 77 00:04:45,130 --> 00:04:48,330 I thought there was an interesting thing going on between you and Greg to show 78 00:04:48,330 --> 00:04:49,790 you how quickly the game can flip. 79 00:04:50,690 --> 00:04:54,910 You guys both approach this with a lot of game theory. That is trying to figure 80 00:04:54,910 --> 00:04:58,970 out what the other person's best move is and making your move based on that. 81 00:04:59,130 --> 00:05:03,290 Greg, that was the case with you, right? You said you would sit up at night and 82 00:05:03,290 --> 00:05:06,370 think about everybody and what they were going to do. I would go through the 83 00:05:06,370 --> 00:05:09,970 line that we were sleeping in. Okay, what's Karen's best move right now? What 84 00:05:09,970 --> 00:05:10,970 she thinking? What is she going to do? 85 00:05:11,470 --> 00:05:15,190 And try to make my move subtly by assuming everyone else is playing 86 00:05:15,190 --> 00:05:18,370 going to make the smart move. And your plan was to get to five and make your 87 00:05:18,370 --> 00:05:19,910 move. That's right. Works well. 88 00:05:20,410 --> 00:05:22,810 Tom figured it out. Well, you know what? 89 00:05:23,390 --> 00:05:28,290 Tom was telling me you figured it out that based on what you knew about Greg, 90 00:05:28,570 --> 00:05:30,430 why he wouldn't do that. Tell me about that. 91 00:05:32,620 --> 00:05:36,740 You know, Greg really believes when you're on a plan, you stick with that 92 00:05:36,740 --> 00:05:38,840 and nothing derides the cart. 93 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:43,400 And it's a good analytical thinking that makes him great in business. He finds 94 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:47,100 out what's wrong with a company and where you have to streamline it. He had 95 00:05:47,100 --> 00:05:52,060 really good firm he was working for, Carora Incorporated, and he didn't want 96 00:05:52,060 --> 00:05:55,540 partners unhappy. And he just said, let's go. I've got time. I've got time. 97 00:05:56,360 --> 00:06:00,640 So I believed he was going to stay with it right to the five. I was told later, 98 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:02,520 no, no, no, he's coming for you. 99 00:06:02,900 --> 00:06:07,380 But I believed that he would stay with it just based on the fact that he liked 100 00:06:07,380 --> 00:06:08,620 the way things were going. 101 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:13,280 So to be clear, you figured out he's going to wait until five, I get him at 102 00:06:13,790 --> 00:06:18,050 I was told that he was coming for me. I would have waited to five and still 103 00:06:18,050 --> 00:06:21,850 played. I was going to hold to that word also and just say, all right, we'll 104 00:06:21,850 --> 00:06:25,630 play to five, and then we'll start the picking off. This is complicated for me, 105 00:06:25,730 --> 00:06:28,730 and I've already talked to you guys about this stuff, and now I feel like 106 00:06:28,730 --> 00:06:29,730 getting played. 107 00:06:29,750 --> 00:06:34,090 Karen, talking about making the best move, if you make it to this game, this 108 00:06:34,090 --> 00:06:38,770 my opinion, obviously I've never played it, but if you make it to five without 109 00:06:38,770 --> 00:06:39,770 any alliances. 110 00:06:40,570 --> 00:06:45,630 Suddenly, you become the most valuable person on the island. There are two here 111 00:06:45,630 --> 00:06:47,450 and two here and you in the middle. 112 00:06:47,990 --> 00:06:51,670 What happened? How did you go home that night? Why weren't you guaranteed a spot 113 00:06:51,670 --> 00:06:52,670 in the final three? 114 00:06:52,750 --> 00:06:56,410 Well, I'm not sure exactly what happened because I wasn't privy to everything 115 00:06:56,410 --> 00:07:03,170 that happened. But when I wouldn't give up information on the beach that Jen and 116 00:07:03,170 --> 00:07:06,770 Katie and I had made an alliance, I think I kicked off time. 117 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:11,500 Tom and Ian were definitely considering, at least I thought, I could be wrong, 118 00:07:11,740 --> 00:07:14,120 taking me and getting rid of Jen next. 119 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:19,820 But I think I didn't give up any information that it didn't work. 120 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:22,120 You know, I wasn't useful to them anymore. 121 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:26,940 And then Katie flip -flopped on the all -women alliance, and so I wasn't useful 122 00:07:26,940 --> 00:07:31,780 there for them either. So I went home. I went packing. Ian, you're 11 hours in 123 00:07:31,780 --> 00:07:36,280 to a challenge. You find yourself final three with your two allies. 124 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:40,700 And the two people you have betrayed so severely, you don't know what to do. 125 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:41,779 Yeah. 126 00:07:41,780 --> 00:07:44,840 11 hours, almost, yeah, it was 11 hours. 127 00:07:45,220 --> 00:07:48,300 Longest challenge we've ever had, you finally decide to step down. 128 00:07:48,780 --> 00:07:51,660 Now, some will say, hmm, it's a little suspect. 129 00:07:51,900 --> 00:07:54,180 Were you really processing the whole time? 130 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:58,520 Absolutely. I mean, there wasn't too much else to do, unfortunately. 131 00:07:58,780 --> 00:08:00,880 I mean, Yana Bui and... 132 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:07,300 A lot had happened in the past 24 hours, and I came into the game wanting to 133 00:08:07,300 --> 00:08:13,940 play from where I'm from and with the values that I came to the game with, and 134 00:08:13,940 --> 00:08:19,860 realized at the 11th hour, I guess literally this time, that I hadn't been 135 00:08:19,860 --> 00:08:24,840 that, and I wasn't ready to sacrifice what I was going to take back to my 136 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:29,380 and my friends back home for a million bucks. And no regrets on that? 137 00:08:29,380 --> 00:08:30,380 not. 138 00:08:34,470 --> 00:08:38,049 Interesting stat as we go to break on this segment. 139 00:08:38,409 --> 00:08:44,250 Seven of the ten winners have been 30 years or older. The average age is 34 of 140 00:08:44,250 --> 00:08:47,970 winning this game. And it brings up an interesting topic, which is maturity. 141 00:08:48,390 --> 00:08:50,770 Because everybody else was playing this game too. 142 00:08:51,170 --> 00:08:53,830 Maybe they were playing it better, but it seemed like you just grew up a little 143 00:08:53,830 --> 00:08:54,830 bit out there. 144 00:08:54,930 --> 00:08:58,310 Absolutely. I mean, the game changed my life. And I had the opportunity to play 145 00:08:58,310 --> 00:08:59,890 with somebody almost three times my age. 146 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:08,000 I learned a lot from the people that I played with. On that note, up next, we 147 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:11,920 will hear from Survivor's favorite hairdresser, Colby. 148 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:16,320 Still the time one of the most popular Survivors ever, Stephanie. But first, 149 00:09:16,540 --> 00:09:21,160 this season's challenges were some of the most physical ever. Take a look. 150 00:09:32,620 --> 00:09:33,620 Bobby John. 151 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:34,840 Oh. 152 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:37,240 Still on. 153 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:39,320 Follow it, Bobby John. 154 00:10:16,590 --> 00:10:20,410 Some big challenges and some big quips. We also had some very big revelations. 155 00:10:20,430 --> 00:10:24,410 We've already talked about Ian's realization regarding integrity. Another 156 00:10:24,410 --> 00:10:25,870 story this season was Kobe. 157 00:10:26,130 --> 00:10:28,890 What he proved to others, what he proved to himself. 158 00:10:29,730 --> 00:10:31,010 You like this impression, don't you? 159 00:10:34,850 --> 00:10:39,390 Kobe does it! As a kid, I was always called the girly guy, you know, the 160 00:10:39,650 --> 00:10:41,230 People would pick on me and I would just give up. 161 00:10:41,590 --> 00:10:44,270 I ended up quitting school because people made fun of me. 162 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:49,500 James comes on strong out of the gate. Kobe fighting back. 163 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:53,060 But I wasn't going to let anybody make me quit this time, no matter how hard it 164 00:10:53,060 --> 00:10:53,999 is. 165 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:56,020 And he's got him. James is in. 166 00:11:02,700 --> 00:11:03,700 Ah, 167 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:13,540 Kobe. Was that part of the appeal? Did you come out here to try to get rid 168 00:11:13,540 --> 00:11:14,349 of some demons? 169 00:11:14,350 --> 00:11:17,290 I did. My demons were when I was a kid, you know, I wasn't popular in school. 170 00:11:17,590 --> 00:11:20,870 So Survivor really is kind of like high school, so I wanted to be popular. You 171 00:11:20,870 --> 00:11:21,950 know, I wanted to be the prom queen. 172 00:11:22,590 --> 00:11:24,770 But I'm not. 173 00:11:26,110 --> 00:11:27,970 And to be part of a team was definitely an appeal. 174 00:11:28,490 --> 00:11:31,110 To be part of a team? A team, because I'd never been part of a team. You know, 175 00:11:31,170 --> 00:11:35,170 that's why this was such a nightmare, because it started off as my childhood 176 00:11:35,170 --> 00:11:36,630 nightmare with the Pickham. It was awful. 177 00:11:36,950 --> 00:11:38,290 It was awful to watch that happen. 178 00:11:38,650 --> 00:11:42,410 And so you end up being part of the most dominating team in the history of this 179 00:11:42,410 --> 00:11:43,440 show. Yeah. 180 00:11:44,860 --> 00:11:45,860 Sorry, Bobby John. 181 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:51,860 So, are you different? Did you go home and have some skeletons gone? I did that 182 00:11:51,860 --> 00:11:55,880 day when they showed me crying. That day, I completely put it all to rest. 183 00:11:56,340 --> 00:11:59,600 I really did. It was the best moment of my life. Wow. 184 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:09,140 Well, one of the, I know one of the favorite moments for me was a great 185 00:12:09,140 --> 00:12:12,080 showdown. Kobe, the gay hairdresser. 186 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:15,840 versus James, the self -proclaimed redneck from Alabama. 187 00:12:16,180 --> 00:12:17,139 Come on. 188 00:12:17,140 --> 00:12:22,880 Come on. And you know what was great about that was that you beat James, and 189 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:27,660 James, you were so complimentary about it. I mean, you really were. And I have 190 00:12:27,660 --> 00:12:32,200 to imagine the next day after that episode aired, when you went into work, 191 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:36,280 buddies had a couple of things to say. This is America. Am I wrong or not? This 192 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:40,560 is America, to be honest with you. I've been unemployed because I can't get 193 00:12:40,560 --> 00:12:41,560 work. 194 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:46,260 Because I'm a redneck James I tell you what but folks I've been around and yeah 195 00:12:46,260 --> 00:12:50,900 my old friends in the mill they you know they saw it and I tell you what I tell 196 00:12:50,900 --> 00:12:57,680 them straight up that boy whooped my tail and he's 210 pounds 155 that ain't 197 00:12:57,680 --> 00:13:02,240 excuse because that's pure steel from the steel mill you know and I thought 198 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:05,960 gonna whoop Kobe you know I'm thinking in my head this is a gay hairdresser 199 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:08,640 feminine I'm gonna whoop his tail I'm a steel mill worker. 200 00:13:09,370 --> 00:13:11,230 Boy, he's got some tail. I'm telling you. 201 00:13:15,110 --> 00:13:22,010 And, James, you know, you were a big character out there, 202 00:13:22,070 --> 00:13:25,470 and I don't want to take a long time on this, but you said something interesting 203 00:13:25,470 --> 00:13:29,110 to me, which was you actually changed, too. You said you don't take your kids 204 00:13:29,110 --> 00:13:32,390 for granted anymore. Oh, Lord, no. It changed me. 205 00:13:32,890 --> 00:13:36,310 You know, me and my family, rocky, but when I got back. 206 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:42,640 I went and did it with my kids. I went and roasted hot dogs and marshmallows. 207 00:13:42,860 --> 00:13:45,840 First thing I did. And I don't take my wife for granted no more. Good. 208 00:13:46,180 --> 00:13:47,180 It changed. 209 00:13:49,580 --> 00:13:53,760 Another revelation this season, showgirl, was Janu. 210 00:13:54,780 --> 00:13:55,780 You know, 211 00:13:56,460 --> 00:13:58,240 this was more than you bargained for. 212 00:13:58,700 --> 00:13:59,700 Seemed to be. 213 00:13:59,900 --> 00:14:01,440 And you had some tough days. 214 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:04,520 Disappointing at challenges. 215 00:14:05,060 --> 00:14:07,780 Laid around camp a lot. Even you would agree with that. 216 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:11,640 And then your worst nightmare comes true. You get thrown on an island by 217 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:15,220 yourself, and it turns into be the biggest moment of your life. 218 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:20,460 It was great. It was amazing to be there by myself. It was supposed to be Exile 219 00:14:20,460 --> 00:14:24,160 Island. And it just came together for me. It was full circle. 220 00:14:24,580 --> 00:14:29,240 And I learned that the appreciation that I had for family and friends and life 221 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:34,400 in general was just that. I was satisfied. And I knew going in to 222 00:14:34,810 --> 00:14:37,150 And I want to say, this is something I haven't asked you, I haven't asked 223 00:14:37,150 --> 00:14:39,090 anybody else who was at Tribal Council that night. 224 00:14:39,370 --> 00:14:41,710 Yes or no, did I coerce you into quitting? 225 00:14:42,090 --> 00:14:43,090 No, you did not. 226 00:14:43,410 --> 00:14:46,890 Anybody at Tribal Council that night feel that I did? Who was there? 227 00:14:48,030 --> 00:14:50,690 No. I couldn't have convinced anybody else to quit. 228 00:14:51,070 --> 00:14:55,310 Because the point I'm getting at is, you know, when somebody, if you come into 229 00:14:55,310 --> 00:14:58,690 this game thinking you can quit, you probably will quit. And if you come to 230 00:14:58,690 --> 00:14:59,890 Tribal Council looking to quit. 231 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:02,880 you're probably going to quit. Because if I smell it, I'm going to find it. 232 00:15:02,900 --> 00:15:06,420 Because every time somebody quits, there's 50 ,000 people at home going, I 233 00:15:06,420 --> 00:15:07,399 wouldn't quit. 234 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:11,340 So I just want to get that out there because there's another form of quit 235 00:15:11,340 --> 00:15:13,980 we're going to talk about now, which is the engineered quit. 236 00:15:14,580 --> 00:15:15,840 And I'm looking at you, Jeff. 237 00:15:16,060 --> 00:15:22,480 Because there's another way to get out of this game, and that is to say, vote 238 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:26,820 out. And it may not always play as a quit, but in my world, it's kind of a 239 00:15:26,900 --> 00:15:28,000 And I want to hear you defend. 240 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:31,640 Why you should have left the game with a hurt ankle when you clearly could have 241 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:36,160 chopped coconuts, made fire, attended camp in a lot of different ways. 242 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:40,860 Well, I mean, first of all, I am officially Coconut Boy. I mean, anywhere 243 00:15:41,020 --> 00:15:43,240 anybody that talks to me, I'm Coconut Boy. That's how it goes. 244 00:15:43,460 --> 00:15:46,780 I mean, it can't get any worse than that. But for me, really, it really did 245 00:15:46,780 --> 00:15:51,100 down to I knew my strength. I knew my limits. And at that point, I'd already 246 00:15:51,100 --> 00:15:53,800 injured myself to the point where I knew that was it. 247 00:15:54,430 --> 00:15:58,490 It wasn't going to go further. Okay, what I'm asking, Bobby John saw you. He 248 00:15:58,490 --> 00:16:02,490 walks by. There's a great moment in the show when he sees you chopping coconuts. 249 00:16:02,490 --> 00:16:04,550 He says, Kim is not doing anything. 250 00:16:05,050 --> 00:16:07,070 Jeff is at least contributing to camp. 251 00:16:07,870 --> 00:16:10,770 Bobby John, would you have left the game with an injured ankle? 252 00:16:11,710 --> 00:16:14,230 You'd have had to cut my head off and carry it in a five -gallon bucket. 253 00:16:15,350 --> 00:16:16,350 I wouldn't have left. 254 00:16:16,690 --> 00:16:17,690 I wouldn't have left. 255 00:16:18,430 --> 00:16:21,290 Sometimes you can't help it, though. When you get hurt, I mean, you're 256 00:16:21,290 --> 00:16:24,670 and you just had surgery on it. So I know, I mean, he was really hurt. I'm 257 00:16:24,670 --> 00:16:27,390 debating you were hurt. Don't get me wrong. I'm just wanting you to defend 258 00:16:27,390 --> 00:16:28,390 I've defended this a lot, Justin. 259 00:16:30,130 --> 00:16:34,110 And, you know, Ashley, on one side of you and Kim on the other, if we could 260 00:16:34,110 --> 00:16:36,010 possibly make the same argument for you guys. 261 00:16:36,750 --> 00:16:40,050 Ashley, would you agree with that? That in some ways you kind of had had enough 262 00:16:40,050 --> 00:16:41,050 of that game. 263 00:16:41,350 --> 00:16:43,470 Jeff, I completely had enough of it. 264 00:16:44,190 --> 00:16:46,790 Unfortunately for me, I thought that... 265 00:16:47,050 --> 00:16:48,650 I was tough, but no. 266 00:16:49,350 --> 00:16:50,810 I was tough enough to laugh. 267 00:16:51,130 --> 00:16:56,650 All right. And on the end, two people who never had a chance to quit, Jonathan 268 00:16:56,650 --> 00:16:58,670 and Wanda, because you didn't get picked. 269 00:16:59,650 --> 00:17:04,950 Jonathan, you're a more unlikely target for that. I mean, I think people look at 270 00:17:04,950 --> 00:17:07,030 you. You're a strong guy. You're young. You're fit. 271 00:17:07,470 --> 00:17:08,470 What happened? 272 00:17:08,589 --> 00:17:09,650 I jumped out of the boat. 273 00:17:11,020 --> 00:17:14,540 Then I guess swimming against that current didn't really pan out. You know, 274 00:17:14,540 --> 00:17:17,339 thought I was going to swim twice as fast as the boat, get to shore, get 275 00:17:17,339 --> 00:17:20,280 immunity, and just kind of all fell apart from there, I guess. 276 00:17:21,060 --> 00:17:23,460 So that's the reason you didn't get picked? 277 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:24,880 I mean, honestly. 278 00:17:26,380 --> 00:17:27,900 Angie, you're waving your arms. 279 00:17:28,740 --> 00:17:32,060 No, I don't think that's just it. Like, I knew this question was going to come 280 00:17:32,060 --> 00:17:33,060 up. 281 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:38,460 You seem like a very nice person now, but when we were out there, I think you 282 00:17:38,460 --> 00:17:42,460 gave me one conversation, and I think the conversation you gave me wasn't very 283 00:17:42,460 --> 00:17:46,700 nice. And I think maybe that happened to a few other people, and the fact was 284 00:17:46,700 --> 00:17:50,340 you're very nice and personable, but I think when we were out there, you 285 00:17:50,340 --> 00:17:53,780 weren't. I think you kind of picked and chose who you talked to, and you made a 286 00:17:53,780 --> 00:17:56,680 little bit of enemies that way. It wasn't just about, because I never 287 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:59,940 it like that. Yeah, but 20 people going all in different directions right when 288 00:17:59,940 --> 00:18:01,700 we get to the beach, that's kind of hard for, you know, to. 289 00:18:02,120 --> 00:18:04,320 You know, form a relationship with everybody in three days. 290 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:07,240 All right, all right, all right. We're not going to play it out. But obviously, 291 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:10,460 there's a little dissension, and first impressions matter in this game. 292 00:18:10,780 --> 00:18:13,520 Obviously, Wanda, you were the other one on that end of the stick. 293 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:19,240 And your attitude seems to be you're okay with it. I mean, you went off 294 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:20,900 Was that true, or were you hurt? 295 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:25,780 It was devastating, absolutely devastating. But they called out, sing 296 00:18:25,780 --> 00:18:26,780 song, Wanda. 297 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:30,820 There was some pleasure in it, even though they had a couple of curmudgeons 298 00:18:30,820 --> 00:18:34,360 managed to complain about it. And so they asked for a song I never let my 299 00:18:34,360 --> 00:18:35,360 down. 300 00:18:39,620 --> 00:18:42,960 Okay, I got to ask, Wanda. I have to ask. 301 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:46,800 I'm guessing you prepared a song. You betcha. 302 00:18:47,180 --> 00:18:49,380 I hope it's short. Go for it. 303 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:54,620 We were stranded on Palauan shores with coconuts and rats. 304 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:56,200 We survived a... 305 00:18:57,450 --> 00:18:58,450 Okay. 306 00:19:43,660 --> 00:19:46,100 an athlete my entire life. I'm just not a good loser. 307 00:19:46,700 --> 00:19:48,060 Jeff does it again. 308 00:19:49,060 --> 00:19:51,300 If you see anything a man can do, I'll tell you that. 309 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:53,800 Oh, wow. 310 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:55,700 Good old -fashioned cat fight. 311 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:58,680 Jeff not budging and pushes Jen off easily. 312 00:19:59,060 --> 00:20:01,940 This is the scary thing and the hard thing that I'll ever do. 313 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:05,380 But I'll never give up. I'm not a quitter. 314 00:20:07,020 --> 00:20:09,620 One. Open up. Big one, at least. 315 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:29,480 Ever in that situation before, one tribe member left, spending the night out on 316 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:30,439 your own. 317 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:33,860 Did you know going in that you had that in you? I mean, you're an athlete. 318 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,340 Obviously, you've been in a lot of competition. But that was severe 319 00:20:36,340 --> 00:20:37,340 circumstances. 320 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:38,800 Yeah, yeah, it was. 321 00:20:40,620 --> 00:20:44,080 I knew I'd be all right in the challenges to a certain extent. I didn't 322 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:48,160 I would fare with no food. And then losing every single immunity challenge 323 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:50,040 like, really not your fault. 324 00:20:50,860 --> 00:20:52,220 That was really, really tough. 325 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:54,240 So, no, I mean, I didn't know. I had no idea. 326 00:20:54,650 --> 00:20:56,050 going to be able to do that well. 327 00:20:56,270 --> 00:21:00,010 Was there a defining moment when you think back on your time out there where 328 00:21:00,010 --> 00:21:02,810 all crystallized and you knew you were all right? 329 00:21:03,150 --> 00:21:04,830 It was probably that night when I was by myself. 330 00:21:05,130 --> 00:21:07,650 I can't get any worse than this. I'm the last one left. 331 00:21:08,010 --> 00:21:12,190 I'm here by myself. I don't know what's going to happen. Then I got to doing 332 00:21:12,190 --> 00:21:14,730 career. Then I was like, forget it. I can do anything now. 333 00:21:15,270 --> 00:21:18,850 What's been the reaction on the street from people? Because you're one of the 334 00:21:18,850 --> 00:21:21,990 most popular women, certainly, to ever play Survivor. 335 00:21:33,350 --> 00:21:37,250 You know, I'm so grateful that everybody's been so supportive. Thank 336 00:21:37,270 --> 00:21:38,270 everybody. 337 00:21:40,290 --> 00:21:43,670 Everywhere I go, people, you know, come up to me and they say, you know, you're 338 00:21:43,670 --> 00:21:46,870 my daughter's hero or you're my hero. And it's just a nice thing to hear, I 339 00:21:46,870 --> 00:21:50,230 guess. I get a lot of letters, a lot of really nice letters from high schools 340 00:21:50,230 --> 00:21:54,430 and women and even men. So I don't know. I don't know. 341 00:21:54,850 --> 00:21:55,850 Yeah, go figure. 342 00:21:56,970 --> 00:22:02,010 Bobby John, your partner, for some reason, even though watching the Yulong 343 00:22:02,010 --> 00:22:05,670 dwindle, It was kind of fun toward the end because you'd never seen it happen. 344 00:22:06,250 --> 00:22:07,250 I'll admit. 345 00:22:07,390 --> 00:22:10,650 When it got to Bobby, John, and Steph, it just seemed different. It seemed like 346 00:22:10,650 --> 00:22:14,490 it really was this tribe of two, and suddenly we certainly realized, wow, 347 00:22:14,490 --> 00:22:18,430 has never happened before. Bobby, John, you never got voted out. I didn't get 348 00:22:18,430 --> 00:22:22,410 voted out. You only are out of this game because we had a tiebreaker. Somebody 349 00:22:22,410 --> 00:22:23,349 had to go home. 350 00:22:23,350 --> 00:22:25,630 That's right. I got beat. I didn't get voted off. 351 00:22:26,070 --> 00:22:27,910 It still feels good, but you still lose. 352 00:22:28,710 --> 00:22:32,250 I wear my winning hat like a man. I wear my losing hat like a man. 353 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:34,220 So no sour grapes? No. 354 00:22:35,100 --> 00:22:36,100 Hey, 355 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:40,900 where does your work ethic come from? Because if Stephanie's one of the most 356 00:22:40,900 --> 00:22:44,500 popular women, it's fair to say you are one of the hardest working people that 357 00:22:44,500 --> 00:22:48,240 has ever been out there. You never slacked off. And that doesn't seem like 358 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:49,900 strategy. That just seems like Bobby John. 359 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:54,700 That's me. I would have to definitely give credit to my family and the people 360 00:22:54,700 --> 00:22:55,700 Troy, Alabama. 361 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:57,600 That's all they know how to do is work. 362 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:00,400 And when you go there, you work. And I was brought up doing it. 363 00:23:02,250 --> 00:23:07,170 One other question I have for you. You got to experience something that was so 364 00:23:07,170 --> 00:23:09,230 spectacular, Jellyfish Lake. 365 00:23:09,810 --> 00:23:13,810 Did it last? Did it stay with you? Is that a moment you can go back on and 366 00:23:13,810 --> 00:23:18,890 remember? If you go back in the Rolodex in your brain, that's one I go back to 367 00:23:18,890 --> 00:23:21,130 is Jellyfish Lake. Because for me, that was peace. 368 00:23:21,550 --> 00:23:27,570 Not many times people can go and find peace like that. And for me, it was 369 00:23:27,570 --> 00:23:29,270 just complete peace. 370 00:23:30,070 --> 00:23:31,070 Jolanda. 371 00:23:31,449 --> 00:23:35,790 first person to win immunity and be the first person voted out. 372 00:23:36,150 --> 00:23:39,830 And you're obviously strong and a competitor. What happened out there? 373 00:23:41,090 --> 00:23:45,050 I think a lot of things happened. The way that we had to choose tribes sort of 374 00:23:45,050 --> 00:23:49,050 threw off the dynamics because I thought I'd get to pick a team, but I didn't. I 375 00:23:49,050 --> 00:23:52,110 got to pick one, and I ended up being on a team full of young adults. 376 00:23:52,790 --> 00:23:59,230 And anyone who's a parent knows that when they started turning 18, 21, 25, 377 00:23:59,850 --> 00:24:02,350 You want to prove to the world that you know everything, and they didn't want 378 00:24:02,350 --> 00:24:05,930 leadership, and they didn't want to be a team, and we were duplicating effort. 379 00:24:06,370 --> 00:24:11,190 And I knew when I got voted off that we were going to self -extinct, and I knew 380 00:24:11,190 --> 00:24:15,390 it. I wanted them to do better, but, I mean, when I go back to when I was those 381 00:24:15,390 --> 00:24:17,310 ages, I didn't listen either. 382 00:24:18,110 --> 00:24:20,210 Angie, why is... 383 00:24:20,990 --> 00:24:24,070 Is she right? Why was Yulong so unsuccessful? 384 00:24:24,770 --> 00:24:26,190 She is right about not listening. 385 00:24:26,570 --> 00:24:30,450 Nobody, I mean, we'd go to challenges and we weren't listening. We'd talk to 386 00:24:30,450 --> 00:24:33,950 each other and we weren't listening. And it's one of those things, like, you see 387 00:24:33,950 --> 00:24:36,610 the other tribe getting together so well because they listen more to one 388 00:24:36,610 --> 00:24:41,190 another. It's kind of sad. Something about our team is we totally, the young 389 00:24:41,190 --> 00:24:44,550 people did, underestimated Karora. We have great ideas. They're old. They 390 00:24:44,550 --> 00:24:47,730 do anything. And I kept saying, dude, we're not old. We think. 391 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:52,160 We can't run as fast. We can't jump as high. But we think. And then we make a 392 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,200 plan. And it was like, no, we got all the muscles. 393 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:55,940 We're young. Oh, I didn't believe that. 394 00:24:56,460 --> 00:25:02,760 Ibrahim, you told me that you changed your game plan because Jolanda was first 395 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:06,880 out. And you thought, you know what, being strong ain't a good idea. Well, I 396 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:11,380 don't think her being strong was the problem. I thought that was something 397 00:25:11,380 --> 00:25:12,299 that we needed. 398 00:25:12,300 --> 00:25:15,720 But I think people couldn't handle her strong personality. 399 00:25:16,540 --> 00:25:20,960 And I guess I didn't want to jump out there and do the same thing and get me 400 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:21,960 of the game quick. 401 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:23,340 We got put on the cursed island. 402 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:28,380 Yeah, blame it on the island. All right. Up next, couples updates from Jeff and 403 00:25:28,380 --> 00:25:31,660 Kim and Greg and Jan. That should be interesting. Plus, for one survivor, the 404 00:25:31,660 --> 00:25:35,660 experience in Palau led to a dramatic life change, and we will share that with 405 00:25:35,660 --> 00:25:39,920 you. But first, take a look at these record number of events that have never 406 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:40,920 happened before. 407 00:25:41,020 --> 00:25:42,020 Survivor first. 408 00:25:52,270 --> 00:25:54,270 Tough to say, but guys, it is time for you to go. 409 00:25:55,990 --> 00:25:58,430 We couldn't believe that we were going back to Tribal Council. 410 00:25:58,810 --> 00:26:00,110 This has to be a record. 411 00:26:00,490 --> 00:26:04,050 It was exciting being the last Oolong member. At the same time, it was really 412 00:26:04,050 --> 00:26:08,270 scary. Oolong has been conquered, and one more now joins Karora. 413 00:26:08,930 --> 00:26:09,689 We have a tie. 414 00:26:09,690 --> 00:26:10,349 We're tied. 415 00:26:10,350 --> 00:26:11,350 We're tied. 416 00:26:11,490 --> 00:26:12,650 Ian, we're still tied. 417 00:26:12,970 --> 00:26:14,470 If I don't step down, I'm going to beat you. 418 00:26:14,690 --> 00:26:16,850 That's why I won't step down. 419 00:26:17,210 --> 00:26:19,310 Who are you voting out of this game? 420 00:26:19,550 --> 00:26:21,270 I'm going to vote out my buddy, Ian. 421 00:26:43,790 --> 00:26:47,090 music you hear every week on every episode of Survivor is those guys right 422 00:26:47,090 --> 00:26:49,470 there. Russ Landau, David Vanacourt. 423 00:26:49,790 --> 00:26:51,910 Great musicians and composers. 424 00:26:52,990 --> 00:26:53,990 Okay. 425 00:26:54,190 --> 00:26:57,790 Jen, give me the update. You and Greg were a couple on the island. Are you a 426 00:26:57,790 --> 00:26:58,549 couple now? 427 00:26:58,550 --> 00:27:03,310 We were on the island. We had a good alliance. We had a good bond and it was 428 00:27:03,310 --> 00:27:07,630 good friendship too and we're still continuing to be friends and let the 429 00:27:07,630 --> 00:27:09,990 battle after this whole thing and see what happens. Alright. 430 00:27:10,660 --> 00:27:14,760 Kim, Jeff, same thing. You guys posed in a magazine. Are you a couple now? Are 431 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:15,840 you friends? What, Kim? 432 00:27:16,140 --> 00:27:17,900 We are amazing friends. 433 00:27:18,260 --> 00:27:21,480 I actually live out in California now, and we get the chance to hang out and 434 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,460 have fun, and great time on the island. 435 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:25,300 I'm just glad to have him in my life as a friend. 436 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:26,960 Nice. 437 00:27:27,300 --> 00:27:31,180 Hey, one other thing. I'll put Willard with you that didn't make the show that 438 00:27:31,180 --> 00:27:32,180 thought was really interesting. 439 00:27:32,580 --> 00:27:35,660 You're an attorney, but you didn't tell people that. You told them. 440 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:37,880 I told him I was a mailman. 441 00:27:38,420 --> 00:27:42,460 And I'd actually been a mailman a long time ago when I was an undergraduate. 442 00:27:42,780 --> 00:27:47,300 But my theory was, you take a random selection of Americans, a significant 443 00:27:47,300 --> 00:27:52,060 portion of them know lawyer jokes, dislike lawyers. 444 00:27:52,300 --> 00:27:55,420 Nobody dislikes the mailman. And they all bought it. You guys didn't know. 445 00:27:56,160 --> 00:28:01,160 We'll tell Karen, but Karen is a lawyer, too. We can smell each other out. 446 00:28:04,460 --> 00:28:08,520 One other thing we have to share, very big surprise with, I think, everybody 447 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:13,720 here, except for one person, and that person is Kobe. You came back home, big 448 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:15,320 life change. Tell us about it. 449 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:19,320 Well, everybody keeps saying family and how important family is. And one of the 450 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:23,580 other things that Survivor did for me was it helped me put away a lot of the 451 00:28:23,580 --> 00:28:26,640 guilt about being a gay man and deciding that I can't have my own family. 452 00:28:26,940 --> 00:28:29,100 So when I got back, I started looking into adoption. 453 00:28:29,990 --> 00:28:33,170 And I was looking at international adoption, and my cousin was actually 454 00:28:33,170 --> 00:28:36,550 enough to call me, and odd enough, she was pregnant and couldn't keep it. 455 00:28:36,950 --> 00:28:38,550 So I actually adopted a little girl. 456 00:28:47,090 --> 00:28:51,550 One more part to this door. 457 00:28:53,610 --> 00:28:55,910 I named her Junior. 458 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:12,540 On that note, where is Survivor going next? More stories to come. 459 00:29:37,070 --> 00:29:38,810 on the early show here on CBS. 460 00:29:39,010 --> 00:29:41,770 Tom will get a check for a million bucks. 461 00:29:44,190 --> 00:29:50,590 And along with that, you get something else, which is a 2005 Chevy SSR. You 462 00:29:50,590 --> 00:29:51,770 saw it out on the island. 463 00:29:52,310 --> 00:29:53,790 Nice little rig. 464 00:29:54,110 --> 00:29:55,950 And I have the keys right here. 465 00:29:56,210 --> 00:29:57,390 Good hands. 466 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:07,240 However, Palau comes to a close. There is a brand new batch of newbies waiting 467 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,260 to take part in the greatest adventure of their lives. 468 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:11,580 Want to know where they're going? 469 00:30:11,780 --> 00:30:12,780 Take a look. 470 00:30:20,140 --> 00:30:25,360 Hidden deep in the rainforest of Central America stand the ruins of an ancient 471 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:29,600 civilization that once prospered and then vanished. 472 00:30:31,180 --> 00:30:35,600 These were the Maya people, and this is the country of Guatemala. 473 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:42,080 These stunning cities of the past stand as clues to a mystery thousands of years 474 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:43,080 old. 475 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:48,260 While Europe was in the Dark Ages, it was the Maya who harnessed the knowledge 476 00:30:48,260 --> 00:30:52,960 of the stars and the celestial movements to create a mystical union of man, 477 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:54,800 nature, and the gods. 478 00:30:55,140 --> 00:30:59,560 It was a world of great kings, elaborate ceremonies. 479 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,600 fierce battles, and even human sacrifice. 480 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:12,320 Eighteen survivors will be marooned within this mysterious and rugged 481 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:17,440 For the first time, the castaways will actually live within the ruins of a 482 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:22,100 vanished civilization, and they will be forced to embrace the ancient Maya 483 00:31:22,100 --> 00:31:23,100 lifestyle. 484 00:31:24,300 --> 00:31:27,540 Join us this fall as the adventure continues. 485 00:31:28,090 --> 00:31:30,990 with Survivor Guatemala, the Maya Empire. 486 00:31:33,490 --> 00:31:38,270 And if you'd like to own your very own piece of Survivor Palau, here's how you 487 00:31:38,270 --> 00:31:42,790 can do it. Immediately following the reunion show, log on to eBay at survivor 488 00:31:42,790 --> 00:31:44,870 -auction .com. You're going to find... 489 00:31:45,100 --> 00:31:48,600 All sorts of one -of -a -kind props and memorabilia, including the votes and the 490 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,900 urn and torches and all that stuff. All the money goes to Elizabeth Glazer 491 00:31:51,900 --> 00:31:53,220 Pediatric AIDS Foundation. 492 00:31:53,500 --> 00:31:58,420 The auction runs from May 15th tonight through May 28th. To date, Survivor fans 493 00:31:58,420 --> 00:32:03,400 have raised almost $1 .5 million to ensure a healthier future for kids all 494 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:04,399 the world. 495 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:08,080 Also, if you think this game looks like fun... 496 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:12,600 And you'll play with a broken ankle. Then put together a short little 497 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,420 Give us a peek at your life. Tell us why you think you'd be good on the show. 498 00:32:15,460 --> 00:32:19,220 And who knows, maybe this time next year, you'll be sitting here with a 499 00:32:19,220 --> 00:32:22,220 for a million bucks. That's the great thing about Survivor. It really could be 500 00:32:22,220 --> 00:32:25,240 you. Everything you need to know is at cbs .com. 501 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,980 We will see you all from Guatemala in September. 502 00:32:29,620 --> 00:32:30,620 Good night. 45014

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