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>> Mr. President, thank you for doing this.
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I'm glad you are safe. I am glad that
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everyone is safe. How are you doing?
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>> I'm doing well. It was quite an evening.
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It was a very uh difficult thing to
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watch, frankly, but uh doing very well.
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>> Mr. President, do you know if you were
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the target of the gunman? I don't know.
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It sounded to me I read a manifesto is
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he's radicalized. He was a Christian
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believer and then he became an
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anti-Christian and he had a lot of
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change. He's been going through a lot
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based on what he wrote. His brother
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complained about him and I think
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reported him to the police and his
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sister likewise complained about him.
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His family was very concerned. He was
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probably a pretty sick guy. Mhm. And I
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want to get to all of those details and
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also walk through this what happened
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last night. But first, this appears to
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be the third attempted assassination on
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your life. The first in Butler, the
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second, of course, on the golf course in
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Florida.
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Why do you think so many people may be
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trying to kill you?
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So, I've said it and I've said it uh
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numerous times and I've actually because
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of the position I'm in, I've done quite
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a bit of research into the word
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assassination. Terrible word. And they
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go after consequential presidents. They
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go after presidents that do things. If
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you look at what I've done, we've turned
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this country around. We've taken a
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country that was actually a dead
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country. It was dying very rapidly and
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it's the hottest country anywhere in the
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world. We had a skirmish, a war,
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whatever you want to call it, with
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Venezuela. We won that very decisively
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and we now have a great relationship
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with Venezuela. It's been a very
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profitable relationship and we're in
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Iran right now. Other presidents should
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have done it, but they never chose to do
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it. They should have. They made a
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terrible mistake by not doing it. It's
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tougher now than it would have been 10
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years ago or even 5 years ago because
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you know thousands and thousands of
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missiles and everything else if we
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didn't do the B2 bomber attack that
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alone was a big deal. The killing of
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Salami, which I did in my first term,
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was a big deal. But when you're a
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consequential, when you do things, a lot
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of things, and things that work out very
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well for our country, uh Abraham Lincoln
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was assassinated. McKinley was
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assassinated. McKinley made the country
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very rich. People don't realize that.
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Then Teddy Roosevelt went out and spent
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the money that was made by McKinley, but
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he was very consequential actually, but
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he was assassinated. So
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>> you mentioned, Mr. president
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consequential and your policies are also
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controversial. Is that part of it?
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>> Well, I don't think that way. I don't
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think in terms of what they are. I just
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think of what they are for the country.
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For instance, I inherited the worst
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border we've ever had in the history of
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our country where 25 million people came
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in. 25 million people at least. And many
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of them were from hardcore criminals and
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they were drug dealers and they were
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from prisons. They emptied out prisons
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into our country. They emptied out uh
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mental institutions insane asylums into
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our country. And I don't know if that's
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controversial to say we have to move
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those people out, but we have and but it
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it is from the standpoint it you're
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doing something and you're doing
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something that's good. Uh things like uh
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men playing in women's sports, I'm
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against that. Things like transgender
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for everyone, I'm against
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[clears throat] that. There's so many
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things that I'm against. I don't think
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they're controversial. I think the other
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side is controversial, but I do a lot of
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things and I get things done. And you
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know, we're respected now as a country
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all over the world. And some people love
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that, but some people probably don't.
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>> Mr. President, I'm sure you've now had
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the opportunity to see
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>> some of the pictures of what happened
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last night. And I want to walk through
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that. Yeah,
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>> it was just around 8:30 p.m. You are
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sitting there next to the first lady.
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The entertainer named O Pearlman is
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talking to you. He's known as the
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mentalist.
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>> When did you know something was wrong?
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>> Right around that point. Uh, in fact,
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you can see the expression on the first
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lady's
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face and your president of the evening,
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chairman or president or both, who is
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doing a great job by the way, Jen, your
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associate. Yeah, she was a terrific
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person and she was, you know, she had
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this big smile. I mean, they were, you
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know, what they were talking about. They
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were asking the name of Caroline's child
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that he didn't know, I guess, but
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>> the press secretary is expecting and he
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was trying to guess the baby's name.
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>> That's right. And that was the question.
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That was what he and he was actually
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able to get it. I'm not sure I'm a
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believer in this, but he was able to get
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it. and uh the first lady and your
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associate were amazed. You could see the
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and that was
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>> shock on their faces.
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>> It wasn't the shock about something
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outside. But right after that, we heard
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a big bang and it was either a gunshot
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or it was a uh tray of dishes, which
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happens a lot in ballrooms. And I was
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hoping it was a tray, but it wasn't.
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>> You mentioned the first lady, her face.
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She looked very alarmed.
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>> Was she scared?
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>> Well, I don't want to say. And people
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don't like having it said that they were
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scared, but certainly, I mean, who
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wouldn't be when you have a situation
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like that? By that time, I think she
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realized ahead of time that that was
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more of a bullet than it was a train.
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And she was
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uh I looked at her face just a little
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while ago before I came. I saw the
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scene. They played it for me in, you
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know, pretty good closeup
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and uh she looked uh very upset about
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what just took place. Yeah.
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>> Mhm.
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>> Why not?
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>> You see the security moving quickly
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within seconds, grabbing the vice
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president by his coat, lifting him up,
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>> bringing him out. Then the counter
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assault comes in.
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>> Took 10 seconds for them to flank you,
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Mr. President. and then 20 seconds to
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get you out. It looked chaotic at one
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point. You were down. What was
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happening?
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>> Well, what happened is uh it was a
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little bit me. I wanted to see what was
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happening. And I wasn't making it that
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easy for him. I wanted to see what was
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going on. And by that time, we started
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to realize maybe it was a bad problem,
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different kind of a problem, bad one,
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and different than what would be normal
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noise from a ballroom which you hear all
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the time.
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I was surrounded by great people and I
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probably made them act a little bit more
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slowly. I said, "Wait a minute. Wait a
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minute. Let me see. Wait a minute." So,
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you know, I'm telling guys
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>> just at that moment where it looks like
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you go sort of down with the service.
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You were telling them to wait.
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>> Well, I know what happened is then I
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started walking with him. I turned I
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started walking and then said, "Please
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go down. Please go down on the floor."
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So, I went down and first lady went down
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also. But we were asked to go down by
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the agents as I was walking. In other
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words,
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>> they wanted you almost to crawl.
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>> I was standing up pretty much. I was
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standing up and then turned around the
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opposite direction and started pretty
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much walking out pretty tall. A little
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bent over because I, you know, I'm not
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looking to be standing too tall. And uh
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but I was walking out was pretty about
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halfway there and they said, "Please go
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down to the floor. Please go down to the
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floor." So I dropped to the floor. So
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did the first lady.
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>> What was your thought at that moment?
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What did the first lady say?
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>> Well, my thought was, you know, I've
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been through this before a couple of
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times. And uh
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she has not to this extent. She handled
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it great. I mean, she was she's very
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strong, smart. She got it. She knew what
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was happening. She listened. I did, too,
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by the way. This was the first time she
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when they said Yeah. When they said drop
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down, that meant trouble. And obviously
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I'm the president and I listened to what
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they said. Please drop down, sir. Please
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drop down. So I was was walking halfway
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and then I dropped down at the final
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because we had little ways to go where
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you're exposed to the ballroom
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surroundings
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and uh then I got up and we went to a
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hold room for a while and I tried to get
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them to continue the event if possible.
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>> You wanted to go back in.
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>> I did. I really did because I don't like
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to have a criminal or sick person or
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somebody whoever he is, you'll figure it
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out. I mean, I think we're already
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figuring out he's a man with a lot of
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problems, but you don't want to have
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somebody like this, you know,
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essentially attacking our constitution,
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attacking our country, uh changing
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events that are, you know, it's an
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important event. It was a very
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>> a night celebrating the first amendment
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and the freedom of the press.
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>> That's right. Exactly. And uh and this
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was a big this was a record set. I mean
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this was a very big you know the that
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dinner had some problems for the last
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nine years and now and I I didn't help
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them and this time I went and I felt
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really good being there there was a
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great camaraderie I wasn't sure what the
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response it was you know a lot of press
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a lot of media and when I walked in I
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got a very nice applause I wasn't sure I
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said you know told my wife I said you
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know I may walk in and they may give me
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a hard time or I may walk in let's see
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what happens And I walked in and got
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very nice uh a very I think they were
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happy to see me there actually.
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>> And I can tell you there there's the
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biggest impact that I saw in the entire
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evening was and I say this being
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somebody that's had a lot of uh well
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let's say we've argued a little bit to
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get things that I want done. Uh I I
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fight for a border and they fight for an
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open border and you know we have a lot
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of lot of differences. You've got some
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tough words for the press in the back.
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>> There was tremendous
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by this time the event had taken place,
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people were starting to feel safe. There
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was tremendous camaraderie. I mean, I
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saw Democrats. I saw senators. I saw
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congressmen and women. I saw people that
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weren't necessarily on my side from the
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other party mostly. Pretty much the
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Republicans are on my side, so I'm not
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that, you know, surprised.
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>> And they were going, "Way to go. Wait,
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there was spirit in that room. I mean,
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it was like the whole country was
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together.
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>> It was pretty amazing. It made a big
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impression. It was very nice to see.
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>> Do you think this will change your
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relationship with the press?
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>> Well, look, for whatever reason, we
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disagree on a lot of subjects.
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Uh, we talk about crime. I'm very strong
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on crime. It seems like the press isn't.
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Uh, it's not so much the press, it's the
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press plus the Democrats because they're
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almost one and the same. It's like the
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craziest thing. Uh, I have the strongest
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border we've ever had in the country.
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We're, as you know, it it said zero
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people for nine months came into our
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country through our southern border. We
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have a very tough border. Before me, 25
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million people came in. I mean, whether
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it's 20 or 25 or 30, but they say 25
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million people came in.
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>> Zero people. We have people coming in
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legally.
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>> Can I ask you something? The other side
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doesn't like that.
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>> There are things that I like that I
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think are very standard. I want women to
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be able to play women. I don't want men
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in women's sports. And for whatever
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reason, the other side likes men and
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women sports. So when you say get along,
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I don't think I could ever No, but I
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don't think I could ever change my
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>> feelings on certain policies. I want
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strong borders. They want open borders.
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There's such a difference.
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>> Can I ask you, Mr. I I will say this
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though after the uh event meaning it
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looked like things were good. They we
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knew he was caught. I was given the
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information immediately.
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There was a camaraderie that you just
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have not seen in a while. It's very nice
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to see.
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>> The president, you Mr. president, the
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vice president, the speaker of the
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house, the secretary of state, secretary
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of Hegsth, almost the entire line of
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presidential succession. Yeah.
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>> Was in that ballroom.
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>> Who was the designated survivor?
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>> Well, first of all, I have to say it's
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not a safe ballroom. I'm building a safe
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ballroom. And one of the reasons I'm
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building it is exactly what happened
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last night. Uh we're building a room
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right there. If you walk out and move 20
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yards to the left, you'll be right at
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the entrance to the ballroom. And that
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ballroom is being built on the safest
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piece of property in this country.
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Probably one of the safest pieces of
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land in the world. We have
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>> But it that's owned that's the White
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House. The White House Correspondents
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Center can't use White House.
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>> It's able to be used by certainly the
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White House. It says the White House
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correspondents. Well, that's the White
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House press. I'm sure that it's
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available. you know, it's up to the
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president, but that would be a made
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available. And this has bulletproof
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glass. This has, you know, this is the
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highest level of security. Also, very
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importantly, I could have built suites
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on top. I could have done a lot of
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things, but I said, "No, no, we have,
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this has to be pure. This has to be
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where people stay off property and they
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go through one very impactful, very
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strong entrance, one very powerful
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entrance. There's no games with this.
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This is the best, highest. This has all
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sorts of uh security equipment at at
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levels that you could never have in a
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regular ballroom
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>> and we're ahead of schedule. We're right
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on budget, ahead of schedule. I wish it
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could be even sooner, but we're, you
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know, months ahead of schedule,
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>> but it doesn't open till 28. So, you
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know, that means you have another season
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and a half to go,
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>> right? But uh this is exactly why the
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military and this is exactly why Secret
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Service and all law enforcement want it
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because you have maybe a thousand hotel
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rooms above the ballroom we were in last
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night. And I'm not knocking it. I'm just
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saying in terms of maximum security.
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It's not the best thing. You can do it,
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but you can have problems like this.
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They have an elevator that comes down
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from the rooms. It's very close to the
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ballroom.
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>> Yeah. which makes sense.
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>> So, we're doing we're doing something
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that's going to have a tremendous impact
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on solving this problem.
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>> In that video,
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you can see the gunman running through
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the metal detectors and he fired off one
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or two rounds.
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>> His speed was rather incredible
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actually. It was he was like a blur.
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>> How did he get that close with the place
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swarming with security? I I will say,
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look, I I say it because I'm a big fan
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of the people of law enforcement.
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And you know, some of these people, they
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may be crazy, but they're not stupid and
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they figure things out. He ran 45 yards,
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they say, and he just went to it and
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then boom, he popped through it. A thing
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like that could happen. I would say
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this, having the uh equipment on the
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outside of the building maybe is better
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than having it on the inside of the
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building. Sometimes that's tough.
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Sometimes it's horrendous weather.
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Sometimes it's pouring, it's raining,
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it's lots of things happen, but maybe
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last night was actually quite nice. The
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weather was beautiful. So, maybe
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something like that has to take place. I
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can only say that from the moment they
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realized that he was I mean he ran like
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I think the NFL should sign him up he
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was fast. When you look at it on tape
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it's almost like a blur.
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>> Right.
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>> But it was amazing because as soon as
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they saw that you could see them draw
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their guns. They were so professional
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aimed their guns and then they took them
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down immediately.
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Uh the doors were sealed, the room was
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sealed, the ballroom itself where the
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people were and uh they really they
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really I think they did a great job.
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>> I was in the room not far from you, Mr.
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President. Could hear what sounded like
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gunshots or commotion.
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>> People nearby could smell the gunpowder.
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Um everybody hit the floor.
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>> Um there were a number of uh people who
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were very very scared.
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>> Yeah.
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>> How worried were you that there were
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going to be injuries?
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I wasn't worried.
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I understand life.
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[snorts] We live in a crazy world.
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You can really enhance your chances of
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having a perfect situation. But
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sometimes things will happen. Uh I did
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want to see what was happening because I
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you know the president in one way I
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guess I should be hiding and another way
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I want to see if I can be helpful. But I
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I did watch because I could see what was
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going on at the door. I also saw a lot
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of very strong
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uh physically strong,
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really attractive law enforcement people
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come through those doors. And frankly,
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it made me feel very safe. Very, very
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safe. There's nobody going to get by
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them. And this was at the very back of
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the ballroom. I'm looking at the back of
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the ballroom. Big
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>> the counter assault team that comes in.
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>> They were very impressive. I think they
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were very impressive. I think the whole
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operation was very impressive. The only
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thing you could say is maybe they could
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move that counterpoint out deeper out.
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In other words, move it to the outside
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of the building.
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>> Let's talk about that. Mr. President, I
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wonder how much has the Secret Service
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and the FBI briefed you about this
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suspect, Cole Thomas Allen. Have you
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read what a senior US official is
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describing to us as a manifesto?
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>> Yeah. Did you know that he emailed it to
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family members? Not
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>> We found all of that out this morning.
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>> Right before the attack.
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>> Yeah, we found that out this morning.
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And the family members were concerned. I
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think the brother called up the police.
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I think the sister may have called the
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police. Uh the parents were rather
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devastated. He lived with the parents. I
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saw the parents last night on television
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opening the door. I assume that was his
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parents.
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Look, you have sick people and you have
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to mitigate the risk. But some of these
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sick people, it's amazing some of the
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they're very sick, but they're also in
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some cases very, very smart. He went to
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great school. I can tell you the person
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in Butler, I don't know if you ever
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looked at his academic credentials. He
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had almost 1,600 on his college boards.
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1,600.
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Nobody has. I mean, it's the upper
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99.9 percentile or something. And he was
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a crazy person, but a smart crazy
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person. U I think the law enforcement
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did a great job last night.
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>> Let me ask you,
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>> I guess if they didn't, I wouldn't be
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here, but I think they really did a
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great job.
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>> Now, can you make adjustments? I mean,
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we're also learning. Can you make
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adjustments? I think the only adjustment
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would be you move your security
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equipment further away, but it was back
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it was about 50 yards away. 50 yards is
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a lot of yards. Now, when a guy's
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running at that speed, he was a very
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fast person.
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>> Uh, and he got him by a little bit by
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surprise, but that didn't matter because
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he was totally subdued very shortly
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after he passed one point.
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>> The so-called manifesto is a stunning
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thing to read, Mr. President. He appears
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to reference a motive in it. He writes
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this quote. Administration officials,
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they are targets. And he also wrote
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this. I am no longer willing to permit a
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pedophile, rapist, and traitor to coat
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my hands with his crimes. What's your
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reaction to
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>> Well, I was waiting for you to read that
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because I knew you would because you're
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you're horrible people. Horrible people.
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Yeah, he did write that. Uh I'm I'm not
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a rapist. I didn't rape anybody. Uh,
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>> oh, you think he was referring to me?
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>> Excuse me.
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>> I'm not a pedophile. You read that crap
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from some sick person. Uh, I got
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associated with all stuff that has
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nothing to do with me. I was totally
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exonerated. Your friends on the other
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side of the plate are the ones that were
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involved with, let's say, Epstein or
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other things. But I said to myself, you
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know, I'll do this interview and they'll
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probably I read the manifesto. You know,
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he's a sick person, but you should be
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ashamed of yourself reading that because
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I'm not any of those things, Mr.
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President. I was never Excuse me. Excuse
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me.
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>> You shouldn't be reading that on 60
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Minutes. You're a disgrace. But go
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ahead. Let's finish the interview. The
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other thing that he wrote in disgraceful
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the other thing in the manifesto that I
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think is worth looking at in terms of
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determining his motive is he had been
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staying at the hotel since Friday. He
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checked in. He said he had cased the
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place and he wrote, "What the hell is
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the Secret Service doing?" And he wrote
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this quote. I expected security cameras
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at every bend, bugged hotel rooms, armed
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agents every 10 feet, metal detectors
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out the wazoo. What I got is nothing. He
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wrote like this level of incompetence is
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insane.
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Sir, you have already had two potential.
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>> He was pretty incompetent, too, because
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he got caught and he got caught pretty
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easily. So, I'd say he was pretty
578
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incompetent, too. You know, I could take
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any event having to do with security or
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anything else. I I can always find fault
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no matter what. I could take a baseball
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team that won the game 18 to nothing and
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say they should have played better. Uh
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those guys did a good job last night.
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They did a really good job. Now, do they
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make adjustments? They do. They learn.
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They make adjustments. Uh we're living
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in a different world with the internet
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than we had uh years ago. But even years
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ago, it was very dangerous. I mean, just
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ask honest Lincoln. Pretty dangerous.
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>> And uh but we are living a very, you
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know, the internet, I think maybe more
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than anything else, it's radicalized
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some people. It's made people mentally
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sick. It's also a great thing. It's a
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phenomenal thing. We're a leader in it.
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We have We're with a leader in AI. It's
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a great thing, but you'll always find
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problems,
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>> but it's a different It's a different
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age. It's a very different It's a very
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different time.
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>> I mentioned that because again, as his
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motive, and you brought this up, he had
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social media accounts that had
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anti-Trump and anti-Christian rhetoric.
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>> You should read. Why don't you read all
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the anti-Trump? Why don't you read it?
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You just did. So why don't you read it?
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>> Well, he had a lot of anti-Christian
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rhetoric. He had he was part of a group
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called the wide awakes. He had attended
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a no kings protest in California. No
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kings.
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>> What did security tell you about what
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the reason you have people like that is
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you have people doing no kings. I'm not
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a king. What I am? If I was a king, I
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wouldn't be dealing with you. Uh no, I'm
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not a king. I I get it. I I I don't
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laugh. I don't I I see these no kings
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which are funded just like the southern
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law was funded. You saw all that
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southern law is financing the KKK and
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lots of other radical terrible groups.
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And then they go out and they say, "Oh,
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we've got to stop the KKK." And yet they
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give him hundreds of thousands and even
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millions of dollars.
631
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>> It's a total scam run by the Democrats.
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Uh, it shows you that like
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Charlottesville, Charlottesville was all
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funded by the southern law. That was a
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southern law deal, too. And it was done
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to make me look bad and it turned out to
637
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be a total fake. It basically was uh a
638
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rigged election. This was a part of the
639
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rigging of the election.
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>> And that's what you really should be
641
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doing. I mean, I hope one of your
642
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60-minute episodes, which really hasn't
643
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changed very much from the last few
644
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years, I'm surprised, but one of those
645
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episodes should be on southern law and
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the fact that they spent millions and
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millions of dollars on absolute far
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right and just bad bad groups. And then
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they'd use those groups and they'd say,
650
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"These are Republican groups and we're
651
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coming to your rescue." And they're the
652
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ones that have funded it and they're the
653
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ones that kept them keep them going. M
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pretty sad. You think it's pretty sad,
655
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>> Laura?
656
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>> The allegations and the indictment.
657
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>> They're not just allegations indictment.
658
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These are facts. Okay. These are facts.
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I mean, they have checks to the Plu Klux
660
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Clan and many others and then they're
661
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saying how bad they are and blaming the
662
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Republican party and Republicans. These
663
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are not just allegations. But go ahead.
664
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>> Well, as you know, sir, you've been
665
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accused of things and were able to go to
666
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a court of law and adjudicate them. So,
667
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yeah. Allegations after five years.
668
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:04,559
That's that's true. It takes you about
669
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five years. I do want to talk about
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that.
671
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>> Well, I've also I've also won a lot of
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money from fake news media where they
673
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write falsely about me. And not that I
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want to sue people because I don't,
675
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>> but I bring lawsuits against the fake
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news. I brought lawsuits against your
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network and you paid me $38 million
678
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because you did something that was so
679
00:25:24,799 --> 00:25:29,760
horrible with Kamala. You put an answer
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down that wasn't responsive to the
681
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question because her answer, her real
682
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answer was so bad. It was
683
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electionthreatening
684
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and you paid me a lot of money. You
685
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tried to pull one off. It was terrible.
686
00:25:43,039 --> 00:25:45,200
It was a terrible thing that you did.
687
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And you know when you say, "Can we all
688
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get along?" You can. But when people do
689
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,760
things like that or how about the BBC
690
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:55,120
where the BBC has me actually AI, they
691
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have me saying a horrible statement. I
692
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said, "I never said that." It turned out
693
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they gave me an AI, a little AI
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treatment where they have my lips
695
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speaking words of hate, tremendous hate
696
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that I never said. They don't know what
697
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to do. They've admitted they're wrong.
698
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They just don't know what to do. They
699
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actually have me making a major
700
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statement. And it wasn't me.
701
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>> It was my face. It was my lips. My lips
702
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were perfectly in sync with the words. I
703
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said, "I can't believe it. I can't
704
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believe it." So,
705
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>> I hear you, Mr. President. So then when
706
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you say can you get along I can get
707
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along with anybody but if people are
708
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going to cheat if people are going to be
709
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:34,480
uh fake
710
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>> uh you sort of don't want to get along
711
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,840
>> on that. What do you say to people who
712
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are encouraging political violence or
713
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even cheering it on?
714
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:46,159
>> Well, I think the ones that are doing
715
00:26:46,159 --> 00:26:49,520
that are much more far-left than far
716
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,720
right. Much more. When you see again
717
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southern law, when you see some of the
718
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:56,960
statements that are made that are so
719
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,039
even when you say no kings, that's
720
00:26:59,039 --> 00:27:01,120
that's encouraging. You're saying one of
721
00:27:01,120 --> 00:27:02,720
the things this guy said in his
722
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,640
manifesto, which you didn't read, you
723
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,120
should have, is that he attended a no
724
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kings rally along with not too many
725
00:27:11,120 --> 00:27:14,000
people and probably it had an impact.
726
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:15,200
You know, they get up and they say
727
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:16,880
whatever they want. No, I'm against
728
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that. I think it's terrible. Mhm.
729
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,760
>> Um, also at the dinner last night was
730
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,320
your secretary, Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
731
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:24,799
>> Yeah.
732
00:27:24,799 --> 00:27:27,760
>> His sister Carrie Kennedy was there.
733
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,159
They've both witnessed their father and
734
00:27:30,159 --> 00:27:31,919
their uncle be assassinated. That's
735
00:27:31,919 --> 00:27:32,400
right.
736
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,480
>> Erica Kirk was there.
737
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>> The House Majority Leader Steve Scaliz
738
00:27:37,039 --> 00:27:37,760
was there.
739
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:38,640
>> Yeah.
740
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>> Political violence has touched so many
741
00:27:41,039 --> 00:27:44,880
people in that room. Is there something
742
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,360
that you as president can do? What can
743
00:27:47,360 --> 00:27:49,760
be done to change the trajectory?
744
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,240
>> You know,
745
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:55,360
you go back 20 years, 40 years, 100
746
00:27:55,360 --> 00:27:58,960
years, 200 years, 500 years. It's always
747
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:03,039
been there. People are assassinated.
748
00:28:03,039 --> 00:28:06,320
People are injured. People are hurt. And
749
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,399
I'm not sure that any more now than
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00:28:08,399 --> 00:28:10,880
there was. I do think that the hate
751
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:12,880
speech of the Democrats, much more so,
752
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:14,640
is is very dangerous. I really think
753
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,200
it's very dangerous for the country. I
754
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:18,799
think the fact that I've accomplished so
755
00:28:18,799 --> 00:28:20,399
much. I've made our country great again.
756
00:28:20,399 --> 00:28:22,000
I mean, this country was dead. Our
757
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,399
country was dead a year and a half ago.
758
00:28:24,399 --> 00:28:26,880
Sleepy Joe Biden had no idea what he was
759
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:28,720
doing. I don't think it was him either.
760
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:30,080
I think it was the people that surround
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the surround him in the Oval Office at
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the beautiful Resolute desk. I don't
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00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:35,440
think he knew what he was doing. He
764
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:36,640
didn't sign anything. He used the
765
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autopen to sign 90% of the things. Um, I
766
00:28:40,399 --> 00:28:43,039
think that they engendered I mean they
767
00:28:43,039 --> 00:28:46,240
really created a tremendous amount of
768
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,520
anger and hate. Our country was dead and
769
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,360
now we have the hottest country anywhere
770
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,200
in the world. Nope. Not even close.
771
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:53,679
>> Last night
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>> as an example investments in our country
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for four years less than $1 trillion
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under Biden in 11 months $18 trillion
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under Trump. Now most people are happy
776
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:07,760
about that. But some people are really
777
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,559
angry about it. You know why? Because it
778
00:29:10,559 --> 00:29:12,399
means we should be around for a long
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time and they don't want that to happen.
780
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>> Last night you had a very much a tone of
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of unity when you were in the White
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House press briefing room.
783
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>> I think so. Yeah. I think uh I really
784
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:27,039
felt very calm. I feel very calm and I I
785
00:29:27,039 --> 00:29:28,559
feel very calm right now other than a
786
00:29:28,559 --> 00:29:30,799
couple of your questions which are meant
787
00:29:30,799 --> 00:29:33,840
to antagonize and totally inappropriate
788
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,000
but I feel very calm. Mhm.
789
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>> I thought last night was a very
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important thing to do and people have
791
00:29:39,679 --> 00:29:42,320
said it was I did it well. Not an easy
792
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,000
thing to do. You know, you leave a scene
793
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:47,360
like that and then you're supposed to
794
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,360
let our country and even the world know
795
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,559
that it's going to be okay.
796
00:29:52,559 --> 00:29:54,399
>> And what about when we're talking about
797
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the division in this country, the
798
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political violence now? Many of your
799
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cabinet secretaries live on military
800
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bases.
801
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>> Yeah. in order to because of the
802
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potential threats against them.
803
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,159
>> Well, they choose to. I'm not sure that
804
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uh they need to. They also have nice
805
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:14,559
places. You know,
806
00:30:14,559 --> 00:30:16,880
>> Democrats did the same thing. Some of
807
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,200
the housing on the military bases is
808
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:20,559
very nice. I'm not sure they do it
809
00:30:20,559 --> 00:30:22,640
necessarily for violence, but probably
810
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,240
this it's not the worst thing in the
811
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,240
world. Look, they're they're doing we
812
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,000
are consequential. This is a
813
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,640
consequential presidency. I have a great
814
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,279
cabinet and they do things that are very
815
00:30:33,279 --> 00:30:34,559
good. But some people, you know, if
816
00:30:34,559 --> 00:30:35,679
they're good for us, they're not good
817
00:30:35,679 --> 00:30:37,360
for other people. Like as an example,
818
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:38,880
Iran when they're not going to have a
819
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:40,559
nuclear weapon, they will not have
820
00:30:40,559 --> 00:30:41,919
they're not going to blow up the world.
821
00:30:41,919 --> 00:30:43,279
They're crazy. They're not going to blow
822
00:30:43,279 --> 00:30:46,320
up the world. And therefore,
823
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,720
they're not happy. And when they're not
824
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:50,320
happy, people do things that are
825
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,240
violent. Now, I'm not tracing anything
826
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:53,840
back to them, but certainly if they had
827
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:58,000
a shot, they'd probably take it. So when
828
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,159
you're a consequential president or if
829
00:31:00,159 --> 00:31:03,279
you have a consequential administration,
830
00:31:03,279 --> 00:31:06,080
things happen that wouldn't happen if
831
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,039
you're sleepy Joe Biden. Everyone was
832
00:31:09,039 --> 00:31:11,039
happy with Biden. The world was happy.
833
00:31:11,039 --> 00:31:12,159
You know why they were happy? Because
834
00:31:12,159 --> 00:31:15,200
they were taking advantage of us because
835
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,279
they treated the United States like we
836
00:31:17,279 --> 00:31:19,679
were stupid people and they made a lot
837
00:31:19,679 --> 00:31:21,279
of money. But they don't do that
838
00:31:21,279 --> 00:31:23,840
anymore. Last night was going to be your
839
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:25,440
first attendance at the White House
840
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:26,399
correspondents dinner.
841
00:31:26,399 --> 00:31:27,200
>> That's right.
842
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:27,919
>> As president,
843
00:31:27,919 --> 00:31:29,279
>> I was looking forward to making a
844
00:31:29,279 --> 00:31:30,559
speech.
845
00:31:30,559 --> 00:31:30,960
>> And
846
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:32,480
>> would have been a lot different had I
847
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,880
gone up and had I stayed It was very
848
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,840
interesting because I said I can't make
849
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:39,760
that speech. I was going to do a
850
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,559
>> pretty tell me rip roar and oh I won't
851
00:31:42,559 --> 00:31:44,320
go into the total details but no I was
852
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,080
going to hit people really hard with
853
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:49,120
humor. In other words, really hard with
854
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:50,640
humor.
855
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:52,960
And I thought it was good when this
856
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,360
happened and I wanted it to go forward
857
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:56,880
because I just didn't want it canceled
858
00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:00,240
by a crazy person. Our country is too
859
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,080
good for that. Our country is too
860
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,159
important for that and too powerful for
861
00:32:04,159 --> 00:32:06,960
that. I didn't want that to happen. But
862
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:08,559
I said to and I thought it would go up.
863
00:32:08,559 --> 00:32:10,399
I was expecting until the last moment
864
00:32:10,399 --> 00:32:13,679
when the military came and secret
865
00:32:13,679 --> 00:32:15,440
service and law enforcement.
866
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:16,640
>> Why did they say you couldn't go back
867
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:17,919
when you were saying I want to go back?
868
00:32:17,919 --> 00:32:20,720
because we had a very sealed room. It
869
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:24,080
was very airtight. Once the doors opened
870
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:27,120
and the Secret Service, military, others
871
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:28,960
came in, the police came in, the law
872
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:30,960
enforcement, they came in, a lot of
873
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,519
them. We had a lot of law enforcement.
874
00:32:33,519 --> 00:32:36,480
And it was a wall, but the doors were
875
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,799
open. It was breached by them.
876
00:32:38,799 --> 00:32:41,519
>> If somebody happened to slip in, and
877
00:32:41,519 --> 00:32:42,720
when they said that, I said, "You're
878
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,039
right." But I did want to go up, but it
879
00:32:45,039 --> 00:32:46,320
would have been a much different speech.
880
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,799
I would have had to just get up and say,
881
00:32:48,799 --> 00:32:50,480
"I love you all."
882
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,320
>> And there was love in the room. It was
883
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,240
amazing. There was love in the room.
884
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:55,679
>> And why do you think that is? Why do you
885
00:32:55,679 --> 00:32:56,640
think that the tone changed
886
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,279
>> people came together, Democrats that
887
00:32:59,279 --> 00:33:01,919
truly can't stand me?
888
00:33:01,919 --> 00:33:04,240
Were saying, "Sir, could I just shake
889
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:05,919
your hand?" I mean, I'm I'm leaving. And
890
00:33:05,919 --> 00:33:08,399
I'm seeing people, you know, high level
891
00:33:08,399 --> 00:33:12,080
people and they're saying, "Sir,
892
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,760
great job. Sir, could I? One of them I
893
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:17,120
don't want. You probably have it on tape
894
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:18,559
someplace. One of them said, "Could I
895
00:33:18,559 --> 00:33:21,519
hug you?" The big politician on the
896
00:33:21,519 --> 00:33:24,880
other side. There was love.
897
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:26,720
It just all came together. It was very
898
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:30,000
amazing to see. It was a very beautiful
899
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,880
thing in a non beautiful moment really,
900
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:34,480
but it was a very beautiful thing that
901
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,720
was happening. Mhm. I hesitate to ask
902
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:38,240
you about this, but as you know, these
903
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,480
conspiracy theories out there on the
904
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:43,519
left and the right, that the event was
905
00:33:43,519 --> 00:33:45,360
staged or that it didn't happen.
906
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:46,960
>> What did last night didn't happen?
907
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:48,880
>> That uh yeah, that it was because it was
908
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:50,240
your first time there or that Butler
909
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,080
didn't happen. These conspiracy theories
910
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:53,519
that are gaining traction on
911
00:33:53,519 --> 00:33:56,240
>> October 7th didn't happen and
912
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,320
>> World War II didn't happen and the
913
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,039
Holocaust didn't happen and many things
914
00:34:01,039 --> 00:34:02,960
didn't happen. Yeah. No, I hear it.
915
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,200
>> I I don't know. I I think they're more
916
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,760
sick than they are con people, but
917
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:09,520
there's a lot of con in it, too.
918
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,119
>> I haven't heard that last night didn't
919
00:34:11,119 --> 00:34:12,800
happen. What? Usually it takes a little
920
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:13,520
bit longer.
921
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:13,919
>> Yeah,
922
00:34:13,919 --> 00:34:15,760
>> usually they wait about two or three
923
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:17,119
months to start saying that.
924
00:34:17,119 --> 00:34:18,800
>> I think that it was I think the And
925
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:20,960
forgive me, I'm not I don't pedal in
926
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:22,560
that stuff or certainly look at it
927
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,520
because we I was there. Um but the idea
928
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:26,960
I'm wondering where this is coming from.
929
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:28,560
>> That be a tough one. I think
930
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:29,919
>> that' be a tough I think that' be a
931
00:34:29,919 --> 00:34:30,560
tough sale.
932
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,440
>> Yeah. Secret Service Now is currently
933
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,119
meeting as they always do to discuss
934
00:34:35,119 --> 00:34:36,800
your security footprint.
935
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,599
>> The king is coming here. King of
936
00:34:39,599 --> 00:34:40,000
England.
937
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:41,599
>> I think it's great. He'll be very safe.
938
00:34:41,599 --> 00:34:42,000
Yeah.
939
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:43,599
>> Yeah. And
940
00:34:43,599 --> 00:34:45,040
>> will your events be able to go go
941
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,119
forward? Your no concerns about security
942
00:34:47,119 --> 00:34:47,679
going forward?
943
00:34:47,679 --> 00:34:50,159
>> The White House grounds are really safe.
944
00:34:50,159 --> 00:34:54,720
>> This area of not very many acres. It's
945
00:34:54,720 --> 00:34:57,280
really safe. And he'll be staying here
946
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,000
now. I believe he's going to a couple of
947
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:01,760
other locations because he's here for a
948
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:05,359
few days. He's a great guy. Oh, he they
949
00:35:05,359 --> 00:35:07,359
called and and they are so looking
950
00:35:07,359 --> 00:35:08,480
forward to being here.
951
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:09,040
>> Mhm.
952
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:10,480
>> We spoke this morning.
953
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,720
>> So he the the king is fine. He's still
954
00:35:12,720 --> 00:35:14,320
coming. The week your your events are
955
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:15,119
still going forward.
956
00:35:15,119 --> 00:35:16,640
>> He's a good He's a good person.
957
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:18,240
>> There's no indication from the Secret
958
00:35:18,240 --> 00:35:19,839
Service or the FBI that there is an
959
00:35:19,839 --> 00:35:21,440
additional threat to you or other
960
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:22,400
administration officials?
961
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:26,320
>> No. No. No. This was a lone wolf in my
962
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,320
opinion. We may find out something else.
963
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,280
This was a sick lone wolf. He's a sicko
964
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,079
and uh very disturbed person. You could
965
00:35:34,079 --> 00:35:37,520
see it with his journey through life. He
966
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,720
was a Christian. He was a a member of
967
00:35:40,720 --> 00:35:42,480
the Christian club at his college,
968
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:44,079
Caltech, which is a good college. I'm
969
00:35:44,079 --> 00:35:45,359
sure they're very embarrassed by this
970
00:35:45,359 --> 00:35:47,520
because, you know, it's a great college.
971
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:49,920
Uh so that means he's pretty smart to be
972
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,640
in. They gota got to get pretty good
973
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:54,400
marks. Got to get pretty good board
974
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,720
scores. to hard school to get into.
975
00:35:56,720 --> 00:35:59,119
>> So, he's a smart guy, but he's a sick
976
00:35:59,119 --> 00:36:00,079
guy.
977
00:36:00,079 --> 00:36:01,440
>> Yeah, that's the problem. I mean, it
978
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:02,800
would be a lot easier if they weren't
979
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,359
smart. Some of them are very smart
980
00:36:05,359 --> 00:36:08,560
>> and uh they go around and all they want
981
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,599
to do is kill people. They're sick and
982
00:36:11,599 --> 00:36:13,280
they have to be put away.
983
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,280
>> I understand today is the first lady's
984
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:16,480
birthday. Is that right?
985
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:18,480
>> Today's her birthday? Yes. Happy
986
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,830
birthday. Happy birthday, Melania.
987
00:36:21,830 --> 00:36:23,760
[snorts] Today's her birthday. H how how
988
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:25,280
does that how do you how do you deal
989
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:26,800
with that after after what happened last
990
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:27,040
night?
991
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:28,480
>> Yeah, by the time we get back here it's
992
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,240
like around 12:00 and I said happy
993
00:36:30,240 --> 00:36:31,599
birthday, darling.
994
00:36:31,599 --> 00:36:32,240
>> Mhm.
995
00:36:32,240 --> 00:36:33,920
>> And you were back here in the White
996
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,160
House, I understand, in 5 minutes.
997
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,320
>> Well, they they move fast. Yeah.
998
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:39,200
>> Yeah, they move fast.
999
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,359
>> I mean, look, it's a pretty quick drive.
1000
00:36:41,359 --> 00:36:43,119
It's not very far away.
1001
00:36:43,119 --> 00:36:46,160
>> But think of it. the security of having
1002
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:49,040
this really perfect facility built with
1003
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,599
at the highest highest security levels
1004
00:36:51,599 --> 00:36:54,720
on the grounds where you're not taking
1005
00:36:54,720 --> 00:36:56,640
I'm talking about any president by the
1006
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:58,480
way other presidents will use the
1007
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,960
ballroom a lot more than me I'm going to
1008
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,280
have four or five months left but other
1009
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:06,560
presidents will be having having the the
1010
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:08,400
you know that tremendous asset is going
1011
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:12,079
to be so great but outside of that it's
1012
00:37:12,079 --> 00:37:14,160
dangerous you know you need tremendous
1013
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,000
that you could never build. You can't
1014
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:17,839
have thousands of rooms on top of a
1015
00:37:17,839 --> 00:37:19,520
ballroom and have security, real
1016
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,640
security. Now, with that being said, I
1017
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,119
hope they do this event again and I hope
1018
00:37:25,119 --> 00:37:26,960
they do it again soon. And
1019
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:28,400
>> you are committed to doing this event
1020
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:29,599
with the White House correspondents
1021
00:37:29,599 --> 00:37:31,200
dinner. It's about freedom of the press.
1022
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:32,800
>> I want them because I don't want to see
1023
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,359
it be cancelled. I don't want to have a
1024
00:37:35,359 --> 00:37:38,000
crazy person. I think it's really bad
1025
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,079
for a crazy person to be able to cancel
1026
00:37:40,079 --> 00:37:42,240
something like this to, you know, I
1027
00:37:42,240 --> 00:37:44,960
remember with a certain event that took
1028
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:46,560
place, I don't even like mentioning it,
1029
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:49,760
where they had sports games going on and
1030
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:51,760
it was a big decision. Do we cancel the
1031
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,720
games or do we not? And when you cancel,
1032
00:37:54,720 --> 00:37:56,160
you're sort of playing right into the
1033
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,640
hands of these nut jobs and they are
1034
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:00,800
really sick people.
1035
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,599
>> I don't want to have uh an event like
1036
00:38:03,599 --> 00:38:05,599
that. It was a great event. That was an
1037
00:38:05,599 --> 00:38:07,760
event I so I refused to do it the first
1038
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:09,359
four years because I felt the press
1039
00:38:09,359 --> 00:38:11,200
treated me very unfairly. I had a right
1040
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:12,640
not to do it. I didn't do it and the
1041
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:16,000
thing died. It was dying and I even
1042
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:19,040
though the press treated me pretty
1043
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:22,079
badly. Uh it's hard to treat me look I
1044
00:38:22,079 --> 00:38:24,000
won the election. You know people were
1045
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,079
fighting me. Everybody not everybody. I
1046
00:38:26,079 --> 00:38:27,440
I have some there are great people in
1047
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:28,960
the press too I can name but I don't
1048
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:29,760
want to
1049
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:31,359
>> I don't want to embarrass your show. We
1050
00:38:31,359 --> 00:38:32,560
have some great people in the press.
1051
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:34,560
some very fair people and people that
1052
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:36,160
are just on my side. But for the most
1053
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:38,160
part, it's a very liberal or very
1054
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,400
progressive, let's use the word liberal,
1055
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:43,839
liberal press. But, uh, I was just
1056
00:38:43,839 --> 00:38:47,599
really I was really happy to see the the
1057
00:38:47,599 --> 00:38:50,160
I don't know how long it'll last,
1058
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:53,119
the relationship, the friendship, the
1059
00:38:53,119 --> 00:38:56,240
spirit after a very bad event took
1060
00:38:56,240 --> 00:38:58,480
place. Now, the event turned out to be
1061
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,880
much less bad because nobody was killed,
1062
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nobody was hurt. The Secret Service
1063
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agent uh had I spoke to him. He had a a
1064
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,320
bulletproof vest on. Unbelievable.
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>> He's okay.
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>> Oh, he's 100%. Yeah. No, he was 100%. He
1067
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didn't want to go to the hospital. He
1068
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,200
really didn't. They asked him to go. He
1069
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:16,320
didn't want to go. He said, "I don't
1070
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,480
need to go to the hospital." But he went
1071
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because they asked him to go. I would
1072
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:21,359
have said to tell him not to. If he
1073
00:39:21,359 --> 00:39:22,480
doesn't want to go, what do you force
1074
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:23,760
him to go for?
1075
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:25,040
>> Because then the press would say, "Oh,
1076
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:27,200
he was badly hurt." No, he didn't want
1077
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,119
to go to the hospital and they forced
1078
00:39:29,119 --> 00:39:30,480
him to go. And I'm not saying they're
1079
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:31,920
wrong, but I would have said if he
1080
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,079
doesn't want to go, don't make him go.
1081
00:39:34,079 --> 00:39:35,200
>> Well, I know the White House
1082
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,119
Correspondents Association very much
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appreciates you going last night and
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honoring a commitment to do it.
1085
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>> I hope we're going to do it again.
1086
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,480
Norura, tell them to get it going. And
1087
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,680
we should do it within 30 days and
1088
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:51,920
they'll have even more security and
1089
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,320
they'll have bigger perimeter security.
1090
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,480
It'll be fine. But tell them to do it
1091
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,280
again. We can't let something be. It's
1092
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,920
not that I want to go. It's I have I'm
1093
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,640
very busy. I don't need that. I think
1094
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:06,160
it's very important that they do it
1095
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:06,880
again.
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00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:08,240
>> Well, thank you. Thank you, Mr.
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President.
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>> Thank you very much.77777
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