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HALFORD: You bring me
to the nicest places.
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PULLMAN:
If this case is as open and shut
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as Strickland thinks it is,
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hopefully
we Won't be here too long.
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HALFORD: So, this bloke Davies
wants to make a confession
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25 years after the event.
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Have we spoken
to his mental-health officer?
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He does have a link
to the missing boy.
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- He was a friend of the family.
-[ Sighs]
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So, what, his conscience
got the better of him'?
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Maybe he found religion
when he was inside.
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Yeah, there's got to be
another reason for all this.
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- PULLMAN: What?
-[ Doorbell rings]
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Oi, oi, pedo!
Come out of your house, man.
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What are you hiding
behind your door for, man'?
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Well, for a start,
the local wildlife seems --
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Oi!
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[Laughs]
Let's get out of here, man.
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Wait here.
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[Tires squeal]
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[Engine revs]
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Are you Detective Superintendent
Pullman?
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She'll be here in a moment.
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She's just doing a bit
of community policing.
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YOUNG MAN:
Oh, shit, man!
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I've just had
this jacket cleaned.
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I'm arresting you
for assaulting a police officer.
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# It's all right, it's okay #
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# Doesn't really matter
if you're old and gray #
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# It's all right,
I say it's okay #
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# Listen to what I say #
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# It's all right, doing fine #
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# Doesn't really matter
if the sun don't shine #
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# It's all right,
I say it's okay #
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# We're getting to
the end of the day #
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Come on.
Right this Way.
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Sandra'?
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Take them to the interview room.
I'll be down in a minute.
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Anything I should be aware of'?
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We think they may be
part of the reason
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why Davies decided to confess.
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How so'?
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He's had to move four times
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since he was released
from prison.
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So'?
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That's four times
in the last six months.
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Every time he settles in,
someone tips off the locals,
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and the next thing he knows,
there's pitchforks and torches
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as far as the eye can see.
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Again, so'?
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So maybe he feels safer
in prison
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than he does
back on the streets.
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I'm afraid my concern is
for the safety of the streets,
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not of a convicted pedophile,
especially one who's confessing
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to the kidnap and murder
of a 5-year-old child.
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Yeah, and I feel
the same way, too,
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but I would like
to get to the truth
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before I hand things over
to the CPS.
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And that's what {\i1}I{\i0} want you
to do, of course.
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PULLMAN:
For the tape, Mr. Davies,
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can we remind you that you're
entitled to legal representation
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but you've decided
to waive that right'?
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I just want to get on with this,
okay?
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Fine.
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I want to confess to the kidnap
of Yasser Gorton-Blackledge
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in 1985.
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It was me.
I took him.
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Okay, but why are you
confessing now, 25 years later?
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Because it's the right thing
to do.
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I realized that
when I was in prison.
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I realized I had to pay
for what I'd done.
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Then why didn't you confess
when you were still inside?
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- I wish I had.
- PULLMAN: Really?
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'Cause according to your file,
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you applied for parole
at the earliest opportunity.
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You were released
because you'd shown willing
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in all the psychiatric treatment
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and rehabilitation opportunities
you were offered.
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Mr. Davies,
you Wrote a 10-page statement
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in support
of your parole application.
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Listen, I don't belong
on the streets.
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You need to put me away.
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Just put me back in prison.
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Surprisingly,
it's not as simple as that.
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We need to know Whether
you're telling us the truth.
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I am.
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All right, let's start
with what happened to Yasser.
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He was taken from his parents
at a protest march
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and never seen again.
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Where is he'?
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All right, where's his body'?
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- It's gone.
- PULLMAN: Gone Where?
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You don't have to give us a map
reference, just a general idea.
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- We'll find him.
- No, you Won't.
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I dumped the body at sea.
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Really'?
- Yeah.
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And how did you do --
Did you hire a boat'?
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How did you get him from London
to the coast?
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Did you have a car'?
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Come on, just provide us
with some details?
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How long did you have him'?
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Could anybody have seen
the two of you together?
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Look, I've confessed.
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Isn't that enough for you'?
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STANDING;
Well, isn't it'?
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No! Because he didn't
bloody do it, Gerry.
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Yeah, but he did plenty
of other stuff.
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You've seen his file.
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I have,
and this crime doesn't fit.
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She's right.
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Davies used his position
as a teacher
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to groom adolescent lads,
not little children,
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and he never kidnapped anyone.
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- He was cleverer than that.
- Cleverer'?
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Well, okay, sly, mendacious.
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He was a different kind
of predator,
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and he never used physical
violence on his victims.
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Yeah, well, that doesn't make me
feel any more comfortable
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about him being
back on the streets.
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Davies would agree with you.
He doesn't want to be out.
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That's why he made
the confession.
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He'd rather see out his days
in a safe cell on D-wing
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than live in fear
in a council flat.
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- So, what do we do'?
- Well, he's not going anywhere.
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Let's just read the files
and take it from there.
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[Sighs]
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LANE: April 20, 1985,
there was a demo
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against Israel's treatment
of the Palestinians.
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And in attendance
was the lslington branch
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of the Free Palestine Coalition,
leading lights of which
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were husband-and-wife team
Anne Gorton and Fred Blackledge.
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Accompanying them
was their young son, Yasser,
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named after --
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Well, it's obvious, isn't it'?
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Now, the last reported sighting
of him
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was on the north side
of Westminster Bridge.
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The marchers were crossing
the bridge from the south
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towards
the Houses of Parliament.
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This was at 2:00.
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Hold on, hold on.
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The kid wasn't reported missing
till 8:00 in the evening.
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Well, that's how long
apparently it took
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before the parents
realized he was missing.
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What? God, some parents
don't deserve to have kids.
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HALFORD: Which is exactly
what the press said.
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Yeah, well, they were
very sympathetic at first,
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you know, playing up
the victim angle...
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until this came to light.
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Yeah, look at them.
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LANE: And then journalists
started asking
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very awkward questions,
and answering them.
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They said that Anne and Fred
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were dangerous
left-wing activists
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too obsessed with politics
to care for their own kid.
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They were particularly hard
on Anne,
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saying she'd failed as a mother.
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Maybe she did.
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ANNE: Yes, I had a call
from DAC Strickland.
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He said that Davies had finally
done the right thing.
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PULLMAN:
Finally?
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Well, it was all fairly obvious
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once we found out
about his history.
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He lived locally. He'd been
to meetings in our home.
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Yasser knew him
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and must have trusted him enough
to go with him.
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It all makes sense, doesn't it'?
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We'll still have to do
a proper investigation.
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Wouldn't be a problem for you,
would it'?
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"Miscarriages
of British Justice."
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"Rough Justice
in Modern Britain."
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"Are We Living
in a Police State?"
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I work for a civil-liberties
campaign group.
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That's Where
the real battle lies now.
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The day's coming Where
we Won't be able to go anywhere,
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meet anyone, say anything
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Without it being recorded and
noted down by those in power.
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CCTV, internet monitoring,
illegal phone taps.
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But if you haven't
done anything wrong,
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you haven't got anything
to worry about.
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Well, it depends who's deciding
what's right or Wrong,
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doesn't it'?
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But still, if there'd been CCTV
on Westminster Bridge...
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Oh, I'm aware
of the double-edged sword.
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But if my son's disappearance
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had been properly investigated
in the first place --
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You don't think it was'?
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I think you let the press
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do your job for you
the first time 'round.
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Well, there'll be
no press involvement this time.
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But we will need you
and your husband to cooperate.
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Ex-husband.
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Fred and I separated after...
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...after Yasser.
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I'm sorry to hear that.
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We'd been on different paths
for a longtime,
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emotionally and politically.
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In short,
feminism is a fascist movement,
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hell-bent on reducing men to the
rank of second-class citizens.
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Just as the Jews
were demonized by the Nazis,
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so the feminazis
have waged a propaganda war
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against a whole gender.
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We are violent in the home,
according to the social workers.
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We are obsolete,
according to the scientists.
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How long before this fascism
is pursued
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to its inevitable conclusion?
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Gender cleansing?
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We'll expand on this theme
next week.
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Please do the reading.
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Thank you.
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That's quite a theory
you've got there.
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FRED:
Not theory, fact.
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- Can I help you'?
- My name's Halford.
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I called your office.
I'm from UCOS.
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You're here about Yasser.
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HALFORD: I'd like to talk to you
about the day he went missing.
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And about John Davies.
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Anything you can tell me.
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I can tell you the poor bastard
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was as much a victim
as Yasser was.
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Oh, really?
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You don't think he did it'?
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You heard what I had to say
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about the feminist
propaganda machine.
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For the last century,
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we've been told over and over
that men are predators,
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just interested
in violence and sex.
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And some men have chosen
to believe this,
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to allow themselves
to be debased by it.
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Davies was one of them.
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Okay.
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Professor Blackledge,
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you were the last person
to see Yasser alive.
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Yes. I didn't know that
at the time.
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Yasser had been with us all day.
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He was riding
on people's shoulders,
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banging his drum,
shouting all the slogans.
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When we got to Westminster tube,
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Anne decided
she wanted to go home.
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She had a headache.
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I thought
she'd taken Yasser with her.
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Yasser was having
such a good time.
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I didn't want to take him home
and spoil it.
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Did you say that to Fred'?
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I said, "Yasser will be okay?"
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And he nodded.
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But he thought I meant
Yasser would be okay with me.
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I suppose it was an easy mistake
to make.
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And then you just went home?
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I took a couple of aspirin,
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made some food
for when they got back,
252
00:10:01,660 --> 00:10:04,130
and sat in the garden
with a cup of tea.
253
00:10:06,270 --> 00:10:08,040
Then Fred came home.
254
00:10:08,100 --> 00:10:09,700
I thought she was joking
at first.
255
00:10:09,770 --> 00:10:11,220
I thought he was upstairs
in his bed.
256
00:10:11,270 --> 00:10:13,220
I even went up to check.
257
00:10:13,270 --> 00:10:15,740
But then...
258
00:10:15,810 --> 00:10:18,640
it felt like the bottom
had fallen out of my world.
259
00:10:18,710 --> 00:10:20,420
So you called the police?
260
00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:22,470
FRED:
That's when it got real.
261
00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:25,920
First few days,
we thought of him as just lost,
262
00:10:25,990 --> 00:10:28,970
that he would turn up
one way or another.
263
00:10:29,020 --> 00:10:30,920
But then the police
started talking about him
264
00:10:30,990 --> 00:10:32,730
as a missing child.
265
00:10:32,790 --> 00:10:36,290
Not lost, taken.
266
00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:39,860
The river police trawled up and
down that part of the Thames.
267
00:10:39,930 --> 00:10:41,730
They handed out photos
in the area.
268
00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:43,070
Nothing.
269
00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:49,220
Then they advised us to involve
the press, get the word out.
270
00:10:49,710 --> 00:10:51,250
But, of course, that backfired.
271
00:10:51,310 --> 00:10:52,870
We've seen the coverage.
It was pretty damning.
272
00:10:52,950 --> 00:10:55,510
Not until Jamie Peters
sold them that picture.
273
00:10:55,580 --> 00:10:57,780
Hold on.
Who was Jamie Peters?
274
00:10:57,850 --> 00:11:00,830
A comrade, or so we thought.
275
00:11:00,890 --> 00:11:03,530
He'd been part of the campaign
for years.
276
00:11:03,590 --> 00:11:06,360
Totally dedicated to the cause.
277
00:11:06,430 --> 00:11:10,000
I'd like to know how much
the press paid for that picture.
278
00:11:10,060 --> 00:11:13,230
And why didn't he sell the one
of Yasser on Fred's shoulders
279
00:11:13,300 --> 00:11:15,040
or holding my hand'?
280
00:11:15,100 --> 00:11:16,700
I think you know the answer
to that.
281
00:11:16,770 --> 00:11:19,480
The journalists spoke
to our friends, our family,
282
00:11:19,540 --> 00:11:21,700
trying to find some dirt on us.
283
00:11:21,780 --> 00:11:25,380
And when they couldn't,
they made it up.
284
00:11:26,110 --> 00:11:29,690
They crucified us day after day.
285
00:11:30,620 --> 00:11:33,620
How long after that
were you and Fred divorced?
286
00:11:33,690 --> 00:11:36,000
About 18 months.
287
00:11:36,060 --> 00:11:40,430
We were so careful
with each other at first,
288
00:11:40,500 --> 00:11:42,600
Walking on eggshells.
289
00:11:42,660 --> 00:11:46,030
And then one night, the dam
broke, and it all came out.
290
00:11:46,100 --> 00:11:48,480
I blamed him.
He blamed me.
291
00:11:48,540 --> 00:11:50,770
We threw in a few other issues
292
00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:53,570
just to make it hurt
that little bit more.
293
00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:55,180
And then it was over.
294
00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:57,890
And he left.
295
00:11:57,950 --> 00:11:59,890
FRED:
I learned a valuable lesson --
296
00:11:59,950 --> 00:12:02,050
Men are always to blame.
297
00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:03,080
Just pick up a paper.
298
00:12:03,150 --> 00:12:06,310
We cause war, famine,
economic meltdown
299
00:12:06,390 --> 00:12:08,580
While Women are blameless.
300
00:12:08,660 --> 00:12:11,490
Well, that's all we've been told
over and over again.
301
00:12:11,560 --> 00:12:13,150
Yes, well,
there's probably a reason.
302
00:12:13,230 --> 00:12:14,570
FRED:
Take the global-Warming myth.
303
00:12:15,130 --> 00:12:18,220
They call it
man-made climate change.
304
00:12:18,300 --> 00:12:22,180
Man-made, as if a Woman never
drove a car or took a flight.
305
00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:24,400
You see, this is what
we're fighting against.
306
00:12:24,470 --> 00:12:28,570
It's a Woman's world,
and we just live in it.
307
00:12:29,910 --> 00:12:32,550
You do realize that, don't you'?
308
00:12:33,850 --> 00:12:35,520
What a load of bollocks.
309
00:12:35,580 --> 00:12:37,320
I can't believe
they let him teach.
310
00:12:37,390 --> 00:12:38,920
And write books.
311
00:12:38,990 --> 00:12:44,770
Loads of them about Soviet
Russia, China, Fidel Castro.
312
00:12:44,830 --> 00:12:46,420
Then he goes all Middle Eastern,
313
00:12:46,490 --> 00:12:50,160
publishes a couple about Gaza
and the Zionist conspiracy.
314
00:12:50,230 --> 00:12:54,000
Ooh, then it's all about
those pesky feminists.
315
00:12:54,070 --> 00:12:55,540
How's this for a title?
316
00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:57,710
"The Secret War on Modern Men."
317
00:12:57,770 --> 00:12:59,330
[Chuckles]
Sounds good.
318
00:12:59,410 --> 00:13:01,210
Stick to your cookbooks, Gerry.
319
00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:02,540
Yeah, you'd like that,
Wouldn't you'?
320
00:13:02,610 --> 00:13:05,650
Me tied to a kitchen sink,
seen and not heard.
321
00:13:05,710 --> 00:13:08,350
I'm not sure I buy
all this misunderstanding
322
00:13:08,420 --> 00:13:09,680
on Westminster Bridge.
323
00:13:09,750 --> 00:13:12,480
Nah, one of them
would have said goodbye,
324
00:13:12,550 --> 00:13:14,660
told him
who was looking after him.
325
00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:16,350
I think one of them's lying.
326
00:13:16,420 --> 00:13:17,600
Or both of them.
327
00:13:17,660 --> 00:13:20,870
A very convenient way to provide
each other with an alibi.
328
00:13:20,930 --> 00:13:22,370
You think they killed their son'?
329
00:13:22,430 --> 00:13:23,630
Maybe not on purpose,
330
00:13:23,700 --> 00:13:25,140
but I don't think
we should rule it out.
331
00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:28,410
Has anyone considered
that little unsupervised Yasser
332
00:13:28,470 --> 00:13:30,060
might just have wandered away?
333
00:13:30,140 --> 00:13:31,070
I know they trawled the river,
334
00:13:31,140 --> 00:13:32,910
but that was
at least six hours later.
335
00:13:32,970 --> 00:13:34,810
LANE:
I've been thinking about that.
336
00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:36,580
I've been on a few demos
in me time.
337
00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:37,750
Have you'?
338
00:13:37,810 --> 00:13:40,250
Oh, yes, when Esther and I
were courting.
339
00:13:40,310 --> 00:13:42,990
She was quite the
ragged-trousered philanthropist
340
00:13:43,050 --> 00:13:44,310
in her day.
341
00:13:44,390 --> 00:13:47,030
Anyway, those demos
were always heavily policed,
342
00:13:47,090 --> 00:13:48,560
especially around Westminster.
343
00:13:48,620 --> 00:13:49,800
Tell me about it.
344
00:13:49,860 --> 00:13:51,450
You went on a demo?
345
00:13:51,530 --> 00:13:53,200
I can believe it of him.
346
00:13:53,260 --> 00:13:55,250
STANDING:
No, in uniform.
347
00:13:55,330 --> 00:13:56,920
Yeah, keeping the peace.
348
00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:58,500
Actually I spent the whole day
349
00:13:58,570 --> 00:14:00,940
being called a pig
or a capitalist running dog.
350
00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:01,940
"Kill the police!"
351
00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:03,800
Yeah, they're all the same,
that lot.
352
00:14:03,870 --> 00:14:06,340
Who do they run to
when their bikes get nicked'?
353
00:14:06,410 --> 00:14:09,650
Well, just to be sure, I looked
up the Met's policing guidelines
354
00:14:09,710 --> 00:14:11,250
for demos at the time.
355
00:14:11,310 --> 00:14:13,440
And there's a memo
from the chief constable
356
00:14:13,510 --> 00:14:14,580
a Week before the demo
357
00:14:14,650 --> 00:14:16,120
suggesting that cover
was doubled
358
00:14:16,180 --> 00:14:18,260
on Westminster Bridge
and around Parliament.
359
00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:20,600
Not the best place
to snatch a child.
360
00:14:20,660 --> 00:14:23,030
LANE:
Maybe he did just Wander off.
361
00:14:23,090 --> 00:14:25,250
PULLMAN: In which case,
I think we need to track down
362
00:14:25,330 --> 00:14:27,520
all the other people
on that march with Fred and Anne
363
00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:29,460
and ask them
what they remember seeing.
364
00:14:36,540 --> 00:14:38,440
There we are.
365
00:14:41,410 --> 00:14:43,080
Well, what's the matter with it'?
366
00:14:43,140 --> 00:14:45,270
No, nothing.
It looks lovely.
367
00:14:46,110 --> 00:14:47,890
It's just...
368
00:14:47,950 --> 00:14:49,050
I remember a time
369
00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:51,460
when this was the last thing
you'd want to be doing.
370
00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:52,490
What?
371
00:14:52,550 --> 00:14:53,850
Getting the tea on the table
372
00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:56,050
in time for your husband
coming home.
373
00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:58,650
What was it you and your gang
used to call it'?
374
00:14:58,730 --> 00:15:00,430
Domestic slavery.
375
00:15:00,500 --> 00:15:02,360
Well, that was a long time ago.
376
00:15:02,430 --> 00:15:04,920
You were gonna defeat
the forces of oppression.
377
00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:06,070
That was it.
378
00:15:06,130 --> 00:15:07,640
So, what happened'?
379
00:15:07,700 --> 00:15:09,440
What happens to most people.
380
00:15:09,500 --> 00:15:11,130
We got married.
We had Mark.
381
00:15:11,210 --> 00:15:12,140
Real life.
382
00:15:12,210 --> 00:15:15,040
Esther, you were gonna
lead a revolution.
383
00:15:15,110 --> 00:15:16,490
No, I wasn't.
384
00:15:16,540 --> 00:15:18,080
Well, you went
to all the meetings.
385
00:15:18,150 --> 00:15:20,460
Yeah, along with
some student teachers,
386
00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:21,930
an aging social Worker,
387
00:15:21,980 --> 00:15:25,350
and that Woman who used to sell
woolly hats at Camden Market.
388
00:15:25,420 --> 00:15:28,250
That's who I was going to be
manning the barricades with.
389
00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:29,790
LANE:
Yeah, still.
390
00:15:29,860 --> 00:15:32,690
We'd all have been dead
by teatime.
391
00:15:36,860 --> 00:15:38,460
- MAN: Good morning, ma'am.
- WOMAN: Morning, ma'am.
392
00:15:38,530 --> 00:15:40,040
PULLMAN:
Morning.
393
00:15:40,100 --> 00:15:41,330
Mr. Davies?
394
00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:42,750
Are you waiting for me'?
395
00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:45,900
Yes. I was wondering if you were
going to be arresting me today.
396
00:15:45,970 --> 00:15:47,480
Probably not.
397
00:15:47,540 --> 00:15:48,650
Why not?
398
00:15:50,850 --> 00:15:53,760
What do I need to do
to get you to believe me'?
399
00:15:53,820 --> 00:15:55,560
Provide some evidence.
400
00:15:55,620 --> 00:15:57,990
Tell us Where to find the body.
Give us some details.
401
00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:11,190
Well, it's me own fault.
402
00:16:11,930 --> 00:16:14,240
I've domesticated her.
403
00:16:14,300 --> 00:16:15,750
Stolen her fire.
404
00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:17,100
Oh, I don't know.
405
00:16:17,170 --> 00:16:19,850
I think your Esther's
still got plenty of that.
406
00:16:21,140 --> 00:16:23,420
Hello.
You, um, wanted to see me'?
407
00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:24,950
- Gillian Withall?
- That's right.
408
00:16:25,010 --> 00:16:26,570
I'm Jack Halford.
This is Brian Lane.
409
00:16:26,650 --> 00:16:27,580
- How do you do'?
- Hello.
410
00:16:27,650 --> 00:16:29,990
Were you ever a member
of the lslington branch
411
00:16:30,050 --> 00:16:31,850
of the Free Palestine campaign?
412
00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:34,480
Oh, God, in another life.
413
00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:36,750
Um, 20-odd years ago.
414
00:16:36,820 --> 00:16:37,790
We'd like to talk to you
415
00:16:37,860 --> 00:16:40,990
about the disappearance
of Yasser Gorton-Blackledge.
416
00:16:41,060 --> 00:16:42,560
Right.
417
00:16:42,630 --> 00:16:44,760
- You better come through.
- Thank you.
418
00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:49,250
I met Fred
at North London University.
419
00:16:49,300 --> 00:16:50,270
You were a student?
420
00:16:50,340 --> 00:16:53,670
No, no, no, I was a nurse
at the university health center,
421
00:16:53,740 --> 00:16:56,840
dishing out pills,
pregnancy tests, and penicillin.
422
00:16:56,910 --> 00:16:59,070
It was the summer of '84,
423
00:16:59,150 --> 00:17:02,130
and the students had occupied
the building as a protest.
424
00:17:02,180 --> 00:17:03,860
Protest about what?
425
00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:05,820
They were going to occupy
the building
426
00:17:05,890 --> 00:17:08,620
until Israel
stopped occupying Palestine.
427
00:17:08,690 --> 00:17:09,880
Well, that worked.
428
00:17:10,990 --> 00:17:12,440
I was there as a first-aider.
429
00:17:12,490 --> 00:17:14,800
I had no interest in politics
at all.
430
00:17:14,860 --> 00:17:16,330
And then I got talking to Fred.
431
00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:19,530
Next thing I know, I'm going
to meetings and demos and...
432
00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:22,090
Looking back on it, I think it
was all a bit of a distraction.
433
00:17:22,170 --> 00:17:22,830
From what?
434
00:17:22,900 --> 00:17:25,010
I'd just been through a divorce.
435
00:17:25,070 --> 00:17:26,570
It was nice
to have some new friends.
436
00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:28,140
You remember Yasser, do you'?
437
00:17:28,210 --> 00:17:29,470
Of course.
438
00:17:29,540 --> 00:17:31,010
Poor little thing.
439
00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:32,070
How so'?
440
00:17:32,150 --> 00:17:36,520
Well...it didn't surprise me
that he wandered off.
441
00:17:36,580 --> 00:17:39,140
He never had any boundaries.
442
00:17:39,220 --> 00:17:41,210
The house was always full
of strangers
443
00:17:41,290 --> 00:17:43,390
for meetings and demos.
444
00:17:43,460 --> 00:17:45,620
He went to all the rallies
and protests.
445
00:17:45,690 --> 00:17:49,270
I mean, maybe it was
just a matter of time
446
00:17:49,330 --> 00:17:50,300
before something happened.
447
00:17:50,360 --> 00:17:51,430
So, you would agree
448
00:17:51,500 --> 00:17:53,970
with what the press said
about Anne and Fred'?
449
00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:55,300
They were negligent parents'?
450
00:17:55,370 --> 00:17:56,840
I Wouldn't go as far as that.
451
00:17:56,900 --> 00:17:57,870
HALFORD:
How far would you go'?
452
00:17:57,940 --> 00:18:00,890
I just think they didn't realize
453
00:18:00,940 --> 00:18:04,970
how lucky they were to have
Yasser until it was too late.
454
00:18:05,050 --> 00:18:07,520
What about John Davies?
455
00:18:07,580 --> 00:18:10,500
Do you think he showed
any inappropriate attention
456
00:18:10,550 --> 00:18:11,890
-to Yasser'?
- No.
457
00:18:11,950 --> 00:18:13,250
No, not as far as I remember.
458
00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,390
To be honest, he was only ever
at a couple of the meetings,
459
00:18:15,460 --> 00:18:16,960
and then I think he came
out of politeness.
460
00:18:17,020 --> 00:18:18,050
What do you mean'?
461
00:18:18,790 --> 00:18:20,960
Well, he was a teacher
at the local school.
462
00:18:21,030 --> 00:18:21,960
Was he'?
463
00:18:22,030 --> 00:18:23,260
GILLIAN:
It doesn't bear thinking about.
464
00:18:23,900 --> 00:18:25,280
Anne was on the board
of governors.
465
00:18:25,330 --> 00:18:26,530
I think she nagged him
into coming
466
00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:28,190
to a couple of the meetings.
467
00:18:28,970 --> 00:18:31,530
The thing about Fred and Anne
is they always assumed
468
00:18:31,610 --> 00:18:33,880
that everyone was as committed
to the cause as they were.
469
00:18:33,940 --> 00:18:35,390
They didn't realize
that some people
470
00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:38,320
would just pick up a leaflet
or sign a petition
471
00:18:38,380 --> 00:18:39,850
just to get them
off their backs.
472
00:18:39,910 --> 00:18:42,750
And on this the demo,
was Davies there'?
473
00:18:42,820 --> 00:18:44,720
Not as far as I remember, no.
474
00:18:44,790 --> 00:18:48,360
After Yasser went missing,
how did Anne and Fred seem'?
475
00:18:48,420 --> 00:18:49,410
I have no idea.
476
00:18:49,490 --> 00:18:51,720
The demo was the last time
I saw any of the group.
477
00:18:51,790 --> 00:18:54,500
It was sort of like
my leaving party.
478
00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:56,960
Big party.
Where were you going'?
479
00:18:57,030 --> 00:18:58,260
Sudan.
480
00:18:58,330 --> 00:19:00,890
I'd volunteered to work
as a nurse in the refugee camps.
481
00:19:00,970 --> 00:19:03,200
LANE: Wow, that was brave.
Very admirable.
482
00:19:03,270 --> 00:19:06,070
I would never have dreamt
of doing it
483
00:19:06,140 --> 00:19:08,340
if it hadn't been
for Fred and Anne.
484
00:19:08,410 --> 00:19:10,640
I mean, they certainly
broadened my horizons.
485
00:19:10,710 --> 00:19:12,010
How long were you there'?
486
00:19:12,850 --> 00:19:19,160
Two hard, dirty, traumatic,
amazing years.
487
00:19:19,220 --> 00:19:21,020
It was the best and Worst thing
I've ever done.
488
00:19:21,090 --> 00:19:22,500
I still miss it.
489
00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:23,690
Why'd you come back?
490
00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:26,100
I wanted my son
to have a British education.
491
00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:28,320
Oh, you have a son'?
492
00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:31,100
Was he a friend of Yasser's'?
493
00:19:31,170 --> 00:19:32,760
Did Davies ever talk to him'?
494
00:19:32,830 --> 00:19:34,730
No, no, no, I didn't --
I didn't have him then.
495
00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:35,790
So, you were pregnant
496
00:19:35,870 --> 00:19:38,400
While you were working
in the refugee camps'?
497
00:19:38,470 --> 00:19:39,820
That must have been hard.
498
00:19:39,870 --> 00:19:42,070
I'm surprised
you Weren't just sent home.
499
00:19:42,140 --> 00:19:43,080
No, you don't understand.
500
00:19:43,140 --> 00:19:46,600
I adopted Will
While I was out there.
501
00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:49,060
Quite a souvenir
to bring back, eh'?
502
00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:51,860
Better than a stick of rock.
503
00:19:52,120 --> 00:19:54,610
I'm hoping he might have
other pictures from that day,
504
00:19:54,690 --> 00:19:55,860
crowd shots maybe.
505
00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:58,900
Yeah, featuring your local
neighborhood nonce, John Davies.
506
00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:00,460
Well, that would be
extremely helpful,
507
00:20:00,530 --> 00:20:02,060
but I Won't hold my breath.
508
00:20:02,130 --> 00:20:03,670
No, I'm more interested
in seeing
509
00:20:03,730 --> 00:20:06,340
Whether that shot
was taken out of context
510
00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:09,130
or Whether they really were
being negligent.
511
00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:11,730
Yeah, that's the one there.
At least I hope it is.
512
00:20:11,810 --> 00:20:13,400
He was living here in '85,
513
00:20:13,470 --> 00:20:15,310
and I've got no record
of him moving.
514
00:20:15,380 --> 00:20:17,050
You know howl love a long shot.
515
00:20:17,110 --> 00:20:18,250
[Chuckles]
516
00:20:26,590 --> 00:20:28,970
Hello. Detective Superintendent
Pullman.
517
00:20:29,020 --> 00:20:30,560
Does Jamie Peters
still live here'?
518
00:20:30,620 --> 00:20:32,790
Uh, he does, but he's away
with work at the moment.
519
00:20:32,860 --> 00:20:33,880
Can I get him to call you'?
520
00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:35,520
Yeah, thanks.
I'll give you my card.
521
00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:37,610
Will he know what it's about?
522
00:20:37,670 --> 00:20:39,660
STANDING: Yeah, it's about
Yasser Gorton-Blackledge,
523
00:20:39,730 --> 00:20:41,960
who went missing in 1985.
524
00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:44,770
Oh, okay.
He'll be in touch.
525
00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:46,380
Cheers. Bye-bye.
526
00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:48,340
- Thank you.
- Bye.
527
00:20:48,410 --> 00:20:50,480
Long shot paid off.
528
00:20:51,650 --> 00:20:54,140
We spoke to several members
of the Free Palestine group,
529
00:20:54,220 --> 00:20:55,990
and they all said
pretty much the same thing.
530
00:20:56,050 --> 00:20:58,000
- PULLMAN: Thank you.
- They Weren't bad parents.
531
00:20:58,050 --> 00:21:01,300
STANDING: Just a bit distracted?
Yeah, we got the same story.
532
00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:06,560
And as for Yasser, he was just
happy to go along for the ride.
533
00:21:06,630 --> 00:21:08,400
- Very self-reliant.
- Maybe he had to be.
534
00:21:08,460 --> 00:21:10,930
Gillian Withall described him
as lonely.
535
00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:11,590
And?
536
00:21:11,670 --> 00:21:13,900
Well, lonely boys are easy prey
for predators.
537
00:21:13,970 --> 00:21:15,560
A few kind Words,
a bag of sweets.
538
00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:19,550
But hardly any of them
even remembered Davies.
539
00:21:19,610 --> 00:21:21,140
And those that did
don't remember him
540
00:21:21,210 --> 00:21:23,010
being particularly interested
in Yasser.
541
00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:24,520
Of course they Wouldn't notice.
542
00:21:24,580 --> 00:21:26,890
I mean, what did you call him'?
Mendacious'?
543
00:21:26,950 --> 00:21:28,540
I mean, these blokes are smart.
544
00:21:28,620 --> 00:21:30,210
They know how to keep
under the radar.
545
00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:32,030
I mean, how long
was he a teacher
546
00:21:32,090 --> 00:21:33,530
before anyone knew
what was going on'?
547
00:21:33,590 --> 00:21:34,880
Best part of 10 years.
548
00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,960
Yeah, and that's why we've got
this surveillance culture
549
00:21:38,030 --> 00:21:40,060
that Anne Gorton
campaigns against.
550
00:21:40,130 --> 00:21:43,590
Some people need to be
under surveillance.
551
00:21:53,070 --> 00:21:54,100
What now'?
552
00:21:54,180 --> 00:21:57,180
He says he's got
some new information for us.
553
00:21:57,810 --> 00:21:58,750
Go on.
554
00:21:58,810 --> 00:22:02,510
Yasser had a toy car with him
when I took him, a red one.
555
00:22:02,580 --> 00:22:04,360
And where is it now'?
556
00:22:04,420 --> 00:22:05,440
I don't know.
557
00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:06,660
You don't have it'?
558
00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:08,520
No.
It must be with the body.
559
00:22:08,590 --> 00:22:10,260
Which is at sea.
560
00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:11,590
Ask Anne Gorton about it.
561
00:22:11,660 --> 00:22:13,650
Ask her.
She'll tell you.
562
00:22:13,730 --> 00:22:15,860
I'll be at home
when you're ready to arrest me.
563
00:22:21,470 --> 00:22:22,970
Sandra'?
564
00:22:23,700 --> 00:22:26,050
Are you here to talk
about John Davies?
565
00:22:26,110 --> 00:22:28,990
Actually, I'm here to ask why
you were knocking on the door
566
00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,170
of an Ml5 safe house
this morning.
567
00:22:31,250 --> 00:22:32,950
I wasn't aware I was.
568
00:22:33,010 --> 00:22:35,360
You asked for a Jamie Peters?
569
00:22:35,420 --> 00:22:37,540
That's an active alias
for one of their agents.
570
00:22:37,620 --> 00:22:39,330
Oh, is it, now'?
571
00:22:43,220 --> 00:22:45,830
LANE: Ml5.
Who would have thought?
572
00:22:45,890 --> 00:22:47,120
[Chuckles]
573
00:22:47,190 --> 00:22:49,360
Mind you, I've always
fancied a look inside.
574
00:22:49,430 --> 00:22:52,410
Yeah, it'd make a nice change to
interfere in one of their cases
575
00:22:52,470 --> 00:22:54,410
instead of the other way 'round.
576
00:22:54,470 --> 00:22:57,870
I expect there'll be
some serious security, though.
577
00:22:57,940 --> 00:23:01,470
Retina scans,
full-body metal detectors.
578
00:23:01,540 --> 00:23:03,820
Come on, let's get on with it.
579
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:09,110
There you go.
580
00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:16,000
Thank you.
581
00:23:16,620 --> 00:23:17,650
Is that it'?
582
00:23:17,730 --> 00:23:19,960
Yes. Uh, Richard
will take you down.
583
00:23:20,030 --> 00:23:21,370
This way, gentlemen.
584
00:23:21,930 --> 00:23:23,910
After you, Miss Moneypenny.
585
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,190
You see, that's a mistake
a lot of people make.
586
00:23:26,270 --> 00:23:27,010
STANDING; What?
587
00:23:27,070 --> 00:23:29,450
LANE:
James Bond was actually MI6.
588
00:23:29,500 --> 00:23:31,240
MI6 are the spies.
589
00:23:31,310 --> 00:23:33,080
Ml5 are the spy-catchers.
590
00:23:33,140 --> 00:23:34,010
STANDING; Oh.
591
00:23:34,070 --> 00:23:37,410
We've given you
temporary low-level clearance.
592
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:39,250
So, I am able to tell you
593
00:23:39,310 --> 00:23:41,950
that Jamie Peters
was an operative in the '80s,
594
00:23:42,020 --> 00:23:43,640
tasked with
intelligence gathering
595
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,390
within fringe
political organizations.
596
00:23:46,450 --> 00:23:49,660
Anne Gorton, Fred Blackledge,
and the Free Palestinian group
597
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:51,260
were placed under surveillance
598
00:23:51,330 --> 00:23:53,850
because we believed at the time
they had links
599
00:23:53,930 --> 00:23:56,060
to other less benign groups
in the Middle East.
600
00:23:56,130 --> 00:23:57,360
Did they'?
601
00:23:57,430 --> 00:23:58,770
Probably not.
602
00:23:58,830 --> 00:24:00,610
They did have an unusual amount
of contact
603
00:24:00,670 --> 00:24:02,080
with foreign nationals,
604
00:24:02,140 --> 00:24:04,170
but they were usually
just overseas students
605
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,070
they'd taken in as lodgers.
606
00:24:06,140 --> 00:24:09,090
Fred Blackledge
did visit a few hot spots --
607
00:24:09,140 --> 00:24:11,940
China, Cuba, East Germany,
the Soviet Union.
608
00:24:12,010 --> 00:24:14,890
Yeah, well, he was writing books
about those places.
609
00:24:14,950 --> 00:24:18,040
And what happened to our man
in lslington'?
610
00:24:18,120 --> 00:24:21,070
Jamie was reassigned
after the boy disappeared
611
00:24:21,120 --> 00:24:23,020
to avoid his becoming embroiled
612
00:24:23,090 --> 00:24:25,620
in the Metropolitan Police's
investigation.
613
00:24:25,690 --> 00:24:27,230
To explain the sudden Withdrawal
614
00:24:27,290 --> 00:24:29,000
from the Gorton-Blackledge
social circle,
615
00:24:29,060 --> 00:24:32,040
we released some photos
to the press in Jamie's name.
616
00:24:32,100 --> 00:24:34,500
And made it look like
he'd sold them down the river
617
00:24:34,570 --> 00:24:36,070
and couldn't face them'?
618
00:24:37,070 --> 00:24:39,110
Dirty trick.
619
00:24:39,170 --> 00:24:41,780
Unfortunate
operational necessity.
620
00:24:43,510 --> 00:24:47,240
So, these are the surveillance
files and Jamie's notes.
621
00:24:47,310 --> 00:24:48,450
Take as long you like.
622
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:50,890
Nice piles, neat piles.
623
00:24:50,950 --> 00:24:52,060
Anything else'?
624
00:24:52,120 --> 00:24:53,790
Yeah, you couldn't point us
in the direction
625
00:24:53,850 --> 00:24:55,890
of the nearest tea machine,
could you'?
626
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:57,150
Afraid not.
627
00:24:57,220 --> 00:24:58,780
Classified.
628
00:25:03,360 --> 00:25:05,040
Thank you.
629
00:25:05,630 --> 00:25:08,130
Did Yasser have a favorite toy'?
630
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,880
Yes, a little red car.
631
00:25:10,940 --> 00:25:13,770
His granddad gave it to him.
He loved it.
632
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:15,290
PULLMAN:
Who else knew about it'?
633
00:25:15,340 --> 00:25:16,480
No one.
634
00:25:16,540 --> 00:25:18,520
Do you still have it'?
635
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:20,270
ANNE: No.
636
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,180
No, he must have sneaked it
into his pocket
637
00:25:23,250 --> 00:25:24,810
before we left for the march.
638
00:25:25,350 --> 00:25:28,270
It was a couple of Weeks
before I realized.
639
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:32,560
I wasn't able to go
into his room at first.
640
00:25:33,630 --> 00:25:36,540
I didn't want anyone
to disturb it in ca-
641
00:25:37,970 --> 00:25:40,610
I just wanted everything
to be as he'd left it
642
00:25:40,670 --> 00:25:41,600
when he came home.
643
00:25:41,670 --> 00:25:42,810
Of course you did.
644
00:25:43,970 --> 00:25:48,600
When I did finally go in,
I realized that it wasn't there.
645
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,460
Did anyone else know
it was missing?
646
00:25:51,510 --> 00:25:52,860
No.
647
00:25:53,910 --> 00:25:55,590
Just me and Fred.
648
00:25:57,450 --> 00:25:59,080
Aren't Laurel and Hardy
back yet'?
649
00:25:59,150 --> 00:25:59,890
No.
650
00:25:59,950 --> 00:26:02,150
Well, you can call them and tell
them to stop wasting their time.
651
00:26:02,220 --> 00:26:03,820
- I'm bringing Davies in.
- Sandra.
652
00:26:03,890 --> 00:26:05,520
No one else knew about the car.
653
00:26:05,590 --> 00:26:06,820
He didn't do it.
654
00:26:06,890 --> 00:26:09,360
I pulled his
Education Department record.
655
00:26:09,430 --> 00:26:11,020
On the day of the march,
656
00:26:11,100 --> 00:26:13,200
he was in a school
disciplinary meeting,
657
00:26:13,270 --> 00:26:16,150
accused of inappropriate
behavior towards a pupil --
658
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:17,940
a boy of 15.
659
00:26:18,010 --> 00:26:19,420
And he talked his way out of it'?
660
00:26:19,470 --> 00:26:21,250
He claimed the boy
made the accusation
661
00:26:21,310 --> 00:26:22,940
because he'd put him
in detention.
662
00:26:23,010 --> 00:26:25,480
The headmaster gave him
the benefit of the doubt,
663
00:26:25,550 --> 00:26:27,710
but I don't think he was
too comfortable about it,
664
00:26:27,780 --> 00:26:29,820
'cause Davies was persuaded
to move on.
665
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:31,680
To another school?
Great.
666
00:26:31,750 --> 00:26:34,280
That's why Anne and Fred
didn't see him again.
667
00:26:34,360 --> 00:26:36,850
No, our first instincts
were right.
668
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:38,120
He had nothing to do with it.
669
00:26:38,190 --> 00:26:39,640
But why make a false confession?
670
00:26:39,690 --> 00:26:42,070
And how the hell did he know
about this little red car'?
671
00:26:42,130 --> 00:26:44,200
Well, he knew about it today,
672
00:26:44,260 --> 00:26:46,390
but his memory wasn't so sharp
yesterday.
673
00:26:46,470 --> 00:26:49,180
Yeah, so, where's he getting
his information from'?
674
00:26:50,070 --> 00:26:51,410
Come on.
675
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,640
[indistinct talking]
676
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,630
MAN: On me, then.
3, 2, 1.
677
00:27:10,690 --> 00:27:12,030
DAVIES:
You should have arrested me.
678
00:27:12,090 --> 00:27:14,970
PULLMAN: No, I shouldn't.
We know you didn't do it.
679
00:27:15,030 --> 00:27:17,460
We know you were at a school
meeting on the day of the demo.
680
00:27:17,530 --> 00:27:19,430
However, I am thinking
of charging you
681
00:27:19,500 --> 00:27:21,300
with wasting police time.
682
00:27:21,370 --> 00:27:23,200
Anything to say'?
683
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:25,840
Look, if you just wanted
to be relocated --
684
00:27:25,910 --> 00:27:28,180
What would be the bloody point
of that?
685
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:29,870
- He'd just find me.
- Who Would?
686
00:27:29,940 --> 00:27:32,010
Anthony Vernon.
687
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:33,820
HALFORD:
And who is he'?
688
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,830
I don't know.
Just some nutter.
689
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,120
I don't know how he knows
who I am, but he does.
690
00:27:40,190 --> 00:27:42,050
And wherever they put me,
he's there.
691
00:27:42,120 --> 00:27:46,220
He talks to the neighbors,
tells them who...
692
00:27:46,290 --> 00:27:48,000
what I am.
693
00:27:48,060 --> 00:27:50,340
So, you thought you'd confess
to Yasser's murder
694
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:51,960
and get put out of harm's Way.
695
00:27:52,030 --> 00:27:54,100
No, that was his idea.
696
00:27:54,170 --> 00:27:56,600
Anthony Vernon
told you to confess?
697
00:27:56,670 --> 00:27:59,340
I confronted him.
698
00:27:59,410 --> 00:28:03,100
I asked him why he was
doing this to me.
699
00:28:04,010 --> 00:28:07,290
He said he knew
that I'd taken Yasser.
700
00:28:08,020 --> 00:28:09,790
I told him
it was nothing to do with me.
701
00:28:09,850 --> 00:28:11,920
He was having none of it.
702
00:28:11,990 --> 00:28:14,060
Threatened to make the rest
of my life a misery
703
00:28:14,120 --> 00:28:16,070
if I didn't hand myself in.
704
00:28:17,990 --> 00:28:22,050
After six months of him, I just
wanted to be somewhere safe.
705
00:28:23,430 --> 00:28:27,310
I thought you'd jump at the
chance to put away a pervert.
706
00:28:28,740 --> 00:28:32,650
He went mad when I told him
you Weren't interested in me.
707
00:28:33,540 --> 00:28:35,280
That's when he told me
to come back
708
00:28:35,340 --> 00:28:37,210
and tell you about the toy car.
709
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,770
He fed you that information?
710
00:28:39,850 --> 00:28:42,790
Yeah.
And when that didn't work...
711
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:45,910
And I assume
that this young lady
712
00:28:45,990 --> 00:28:47,820
is here to take your statement.
713
00:28:47,890 --> 00:28:49,720
- Yes, I am, sir.
- We'll be in touch.
714
00:28:51,530 --> 00:28:53,150
[Footsteps depart]
715
00:28:53,230 --> 00:28:56,030
STANDING: Blimey, I thought
being a spy would be exciting.
716
00:28:56,100 --> 00:28:58,900
LANE: Can you imagine five years
of going to boring meetings,
717
00:28:58,970 --> 00:29:00,410
pretending to be interested?
718
00:29:00,470 --> 00:29:02,570
Making note
of everyone who turns up.
719
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,500
He even goes on about
who brought the biscuits
720
00:29:04,570 --> 00:29:05,350
in this one.
721
00:29:05,410 --> 00:29:08,650
Yeah, I don't remember that bit
about custard creams
722
00:29:08,710 --> 00:29:10,480
-in "Goldfinger," do you'?
-[ Chuckles]
723
00:29:10,540 --> 00:29:13,150
I mean, most of this
is just gossip.
724
00:29:13,210 --> 00:29:15,980
There's quite a bit about
Fred and Anne's marriage.
725
00:29:16,050 --> 00:29:18,880
Well, she was knocking off
the lodgers, Weren't she'?
726
00:29:18,950 --> 00:29:19,730
What?
727
00:29:19,790 --> 00:29:22,520
Yeah, here, in this one.
728
00:29:22,590 --> 00:29:23,930
There.
729
00:29:23,990 --> 00:29:26,900
Mind you, it is 1981,
so it's hardly relevant.
730
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:28,160
It's got to be more interesting
731
00:29:28,230 --> 00:29:30,830
than another discussion
about Zionism.
732
00:29:31,970 --> 00:29:33,380
I see.
733
00:29:33,430 --> 00:29:34,810
[Laughs]
734
00:29:34,870 --> 00:29:36,400
So, While poor old Fred
735
00:29:36,470 --> 00:29:38,810
was freezing his Baltics off
in Moscow,
736
00:29:38,870 --> 00:29:41,270
she found another way
of keeping Warm.
737
00:29:41,340 --> 00:29:43,570
Gives a whole new meaning
to bed-and-breakfast.
738
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:45,750
Doesn't it, though?
- What?
739
00:29:45,810 --> 00:29:48,650
Well, I was just thinking,
it wasn't just Davies
740
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:52,320
who had the chance to get
to know Yasser, gain his trust.
741
00:29:52,390 --> 00:29:53,950
What, the lodgers, you mean'?
742
00:29:54,020 --> 00:29:57,150
Well, it's the most interesting
thing in these files,
743
00:29:57,220 --> 00:30:00,060
unless you consider the
very nice garibaldies they had
744
00:30:00,130 --> 00:30:01,900
on the 13th of November.
745
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:03,760
I don't know.
746
00:30:03,830 --> 00:30:05,570
I found a familiar name here.
747
00:30:05,630 --> 00:30:06,660
Whose?
748
00:30:06,730 --> 00:30:08,330
No, I don't think
I should show you.
749
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:09,960
Why ever not'?
750
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:11,570
According
to what I've just read,
751
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:13,620
you're a potential
security risk.
752
00:30:13,670 --> 00:30:15,210
What, there's stuff
about me there'?
753
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,770
Brian, how well
do you know Esther?
754
00:30:19,050 --> 00:30:20,880
I'm married to her, Gerry.
755
00:30:20,950 --> 00:30:23,780
It's called deep cover.
756
00:30:25,490 --> 00:30:26,860
Where'?
757
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:28,990
It's just more stuff
about these meetings, innit?
758
00:30:29,060 --> 00:30:30,760
[Laughs]
759
00:30:30,820 --> 00:30:32,380
That's not amusing.
760
00:30:32,460 --> 00:30:33,870
Oh, I don't know.
761
00:30:33,930 --> 00:30:35,160
I Wonder how Esther would feel
762
00:30:35,230 --> 00:30:39,170
about you being so quick
to believe she's a double agent.
763
00:30:39,230 --> 00:30:40,500
Right, come on.
764
00:30:40,570 --> 00:30:43,240
Let's go and see
this lusty landlady, eh'?
765
00:30:43,300 --> 00:30:45,200
Mr. Vernon,
I'm sure you're aware
766
00:30:45,270 --> 00:30:48,220
that perverting the course
of justice is a serious offense.
767
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:49,210
Of course.
768
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:50,840
PULLMAN: Then perhaps
you'd care to explain
769
00:30:50,910 --> 00:30:52,080
why you forced John Davies
770
00:30:52,150 --> 00:30:54,180
into confessing to a crime
he didn't commit.
771
00:30:54,250 --> 00:30:55,420
I didn't.
772
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,610
We have a statement
of that effect from Mr. Davies.
773
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:01,090
Oh, right, and that's Davies
the convicted pedophile?
774
00:31:01,150 --> 00:31:03,620
His previous convictions
have no bearing on this case.
775
00:31:03,690 --> 00:31:05,920
Yeah, and I'm a sure a jury
of my peers will agree.
776
00:31:05,990 --> 00:31:09,270
I mean, everyone knows you can
always trust a kiddie fiddler.
777
00:31:09,830 --> 00:31:11,540
What about doctors'?
778
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,270
How do you think they go down
with a jury'?
779
00:31:13,330 --> 00:31:16,250
Because the facial injuries
that Davies is recovering from
780
00:31:16,300 --> 00:31:17,600
tell their own story.
781
00:31:17,670 --> 00:31:19,540
I don't know what
you're talking about.
782
00:31:19,610 --> 00:31:23,270
See, what I don't understand is,
why this particular case'?
783
00:31:23,340 --> 00:31:24,970
Why did you want him to confess
784
00:31:25,050 --> 00:31:26,950
to the killing
of Yasser Gorton-Blackledge'?
785
00:31:27,010 --> 00:31:28,310
[Sighs]
As I told you, I didn't.
786
00:31:28,380 --> 00:31:29,320
I've never even heard of --
787
00:31:29,380 --> 00:31:31,580
PULLMAN: Do you have any links
to the family, Mr. Vernon'?
788
00:31:31,650 --> 00:31:33,120
Because you passed on
some details
789
00:31:33,190 --> 00:31:34,810
that only somebody close to them
would know.
790
00:31:34,890 --> 00:31:36,660
- Care to explain why'?
- No.
791
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:38,850
- PULLMAN: Sure about that?
- Yeah, positive.
792
00:31:38,930 --> 00:31:40,220
[Door opens]
793
00:31:40,290 --> 00:31:41,520
Chief Superintendent?
794
00:31:43,900 --> 00:31:46,280
Davies has dropped
the assault charge.
795
00:31:46,330 --> 00:31:47,200
Why'?
796
00:31:47,270 --> 00:31:49,910
It was an accident.
He fell over his cat.
797
00:31:49,970 --> 00:31:51,600
Shit.
798
00:31:52,740 --> 00:31:54,240
[Sighs]
799
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,200
You're free to go.
800
00:31:59,050 --> 00:32:00,880
ANNE:
Am I supposed to be surprised?
801
00:32:00,950 --> 00:32:03,350
Of course Ml5 were Watching us.
802
00:32:03,420 --> 00:32:05,250
It must have been a very dull
assignment for Jamie.
803
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:06,130
All we did was talk.
804
00:32:06,190 --> 00:32:08,530
They were very interested
in your lodgers --
805
00:32:08,590 --> 00:32:11,570
you know, the foreign students
you had staying with you.
806
00:32:11,630 --> 00:32:13,940
We were on a digs list
at the university.
807
00:32:13,990 --> 00:32:15,440
For the most part,
they were nice boys
808
00:32:15,500 --> 00:32:17,200
who needed a bed
and a friendly face.
809
00:32:17,260 --> 00:32:19,610
You were a little bit more
than friendly.
810
00:32:20,170 --> 00:32:23,150
It was a complicated time
in our marriage.
811
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,120
Fred was overseas a lot.
I got lonely.
812
00:32:26,170 --> 00:32:27,580
Yeah, I think
we can understand that.
813
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,410
I'm sorry, but I'm not sure
what this has to do with my son.
814
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,670
We didn't take in students
after Yasser was born.
815
00:32:32,750 --> 00:32:34,010
We didn't have the room.
816
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:35,910
Did you keep in touch
with any of them'?
817
00:32:35,980 --> 00:32:37,330
The odd postcard.
818
00:32:37,380 --> 00:32:38,850
One or two stayed in the U.K.
819
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:40,260
after they finished
their courses.
820
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:41,660
They'd pop in.
821
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,520
Well, thinking back,
would you say that any of them
822
00:32:44,590 --> 00:32:46,750
may have posed a danger
to your son'?
823
00:32:46,830 --> 00:32:48,770
No.
Why would you --
824
00:32:50,030 --> 00:32:52,070
Because they were foreign'?
825
00:32:52,130 --> 00:32:54,480
Dear God!
Some things never change.
826
00:32:54,530 --> 00:32:56,970
No, because they had access
to your home.
827
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,030
They were almost part
of the family.
828
00:32:59,110 --> 00:33:00,730
You're barking
up the wrong tree.
829
00:33:00,810 --> 00:33:02,040
There's absolutely no need
830
00:33:02,110 --> 00:33:03,780
for you to start disrupting
their lives.
831
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:05,470
Just a line of inquiry.
832
00:33:05,550 --> 00:33:07,410
Well, it's offensive.
833
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:08,890
And I'd like you to leave.
834
00:33:08,950 --> 00:33:12,040
STANDING: Typical bloody lefty
to play the race card.
835
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,190
I mean, I don't care
if her lodgers are foreigners.
836
00:33:14,250 --> 00:33:16,330
I don't care if they're
extraterrestrials.
837
00:33:16,390 --> 00:33:19,060
And I don't think
that's what it was all about.
838
00:33:19,130 --> 00:33:20,590
She was covering?
839
00:33:20,660 --> 00:33:22,490
Well, she seemed
very uncomfortable
840
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:24,240
about us contacting any of them.
841
00:33:24,300 --> 00:33:25,400
Why?
'Cause of the affairs?
842
00:33:25,470 --> 00:33:26,810
STANDING; No.
843
00:33:26,870 --> 00:33:29,300
Once she and Fred got divorced,
that's water under the bridge.
844
00:33:29,370 --> 00:33:33,180
Yeah, but at the time,
maybe it all boiled over.
845
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:34,870
So, you think
things got violent?
846
00:33:34,940 --> 00:33:35,970
I don't know.
847
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:39,050
Fred does have strong opinions
about domestic violence.
848
00:33:39,110 --> 00:33:41,100
I just think it's another thing
849
00:33:41,180 --> 00:33:44,060
to add to their list
of distractions --
850
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,060
politics, broken marriage.
851
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:47,590
It's like Jack said
from the off.
852
00:33:47,650 --> 00:33:49,930
I mean, this story
gives a very convenient alibi
853
00:33:49,990 --> 00:33:51,010
for the both of them.
854
00:33:51,090 --> 00:33:52,920
All right, well,
go back to Gillian Withall.
855
00:33:52,990 --> 00:33:55,270
She seems to have known them
the longest and the best.
856
00:33:55,330 --> 00:33:56,860
Would anyone
be surprised to hear
857
00:33:56,930 --> 00:33:59,970
that Anthony Vernon
has got a history of violence?
858
00:34:00,030 --> 00:34:01,300
Not really.
Go on.
859
00:34:01,370 --> 00:34:03,710
His ex-wife has
a restraining order against him.
860
00:34:03,770 --> 00:34:06,050
He's not allowed within 20 feet
of her or the children.
861
00:34:06,110 --> 00:34:08,670
The kids, as Well?
That's unusual.
862
00:34:08,740 --> 00:34:10,090
Do you think she'll speak to us'?
863
00:34:10,140 --> 00:34:11,680
We can but try.
But why should We'?
864
00:34:11,750 --> 00:34:13,450
Well, I've got nowhere
with the man himself.
865
00:34:13,510 --> 00:34:15,070
And I really want to know
866
00:34:15,150 --> 00:34:18,430
why he wanted Davies to confess
to this case specifically.
867
00:34:20,620 --> 00:34:21,880
PULLMAN:
Karen Vernon'?
868
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:23,330
Detective Superintendent
Pullman.
869
00:34:23,390 --> 00:34:24,950
This is Jack Halford.
870
00:34:25,490 --> 00:34:27,230
- Come in.
- PULLMAN: Thank you.
871
00:34:28,630 --> 00:34:29,800
HALFORD:
Thank you.
872
00:34:29,860 --> 00:34:32,630
It's not the first time I've
spoken to the police about Tony.
873
00:34:32,700 --> 00:34:33,720
PULLMAN:
I'm sorry.
874
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:35,000
It's okay.
875
00:34:35,070 --> 00:34:39,340
He can't touch me now -- not
physically or in any other Way.
876
00:34:39,410 --> 00:34:40,940
I'm glad to hear it.
877
00:34:41,010 --> 00:34:43,350
It's when he threatened
the boys.
878
00:34:43,410 --> 00:34:45,970
It was like he switched
something off in me.
879
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:51,020
He said if I ever left him, he'd
kill me and make the kids watch.
880
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,250
It took me three months
to save up enough money
881
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,100
and then find a place to run to.
882
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:56,950
We haven't seen him since.
883
00:34:57,020 --> 00:34:58,290
He's tried.
884
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,520
He dragged me
through the law courts.
885
00:35:00,590 --> 00:35:02,720
But it's his temper.
886
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:04,330
Punched his solicitor
the last time.
887
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:05,330
Not a smart move.
888
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,200
KAREN:
The thing is, he's not stupid.
889
00:35:07,770 --> 00:35:09,570
He used to be a journalist.
890
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:11,230
He kept losing it
with the editors,
891
00:35:11,300 --> 00:35:12,860
so he never made it
to the nationals.
892
00:35:12,940 --> 00:35:14,610
So, he worked for a local paper.
893
00:35:14,670 --> 00:35:15,700
Which one'?
894
00:35:15,780 --> 00:35:17,040
Oh, different ones.
895
00:35:17,110 --> 00:35:18,340
In 1985'?
896
00:35:18,410 --> 00:35:19,820
Uh...
897
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,520
lslington Gazette, I think.
898
00:35:22,580 --> 00:35:24,980
He only lasted about a year
on that one.
899
00:35:25,050 --> 00:35:26,850
Did he ever work on a story
900
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,260
about a little boy
who was abducted?
901
00:35:30,660 --> 00:35:33,540
Nasser Gorton-Blackledge'?
- PULLMAN: Yeah.
902
00:35:34,390 --> 00:35:36,500
Is that what this is about?
903
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,270
He was obsessed with that story.
904
00:35:39,330 --> 00:35:41,280
He was the first on the scene.
905
00:35:41,330 --> 00:35:44,430
He had a contact at the police
station that tipped him off.
906
00:35:44,500 --> 00:35:47,710
He doorstepped the parents and
sold the story to the nationals.
907
00:35:47,770 --> 00:35:49,310
He thought
it was his big chance.
908
00:35:49,380 --> 00:35:50,510
But it wasn't'?
909
00:35:50,580 --> 00:35:52,110
No, they just paid him
for the first report
910
00:35:52,180 --> 00:35:54,040
and then sent in
their own hacks.
911
00:35:54,110 --> 00:35:56,420
He tried to follow up the story,
though.
912
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,460
He did an interview
with the dad.
913
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:00,110
Uh, Fred'?
914
00:36:00,190 --> 00:36:01,320
Yeah.
When was this'?
915
00:36:01,390 --> 00:36:02,920
'95.
It's the year we left.
916
00:36:02,990 --> 00:36:03,830
PULLMAN:
10 years later?
917
00:36:03,890 --> 00:36:06,420
KAREN:
A sort of anniversary piece.
918
00:36:06,490 --> 00:36:07,900
Couldn't sell it, though.
919
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:09,190
No one was interested.
920
00:36:09,260 --> 00:36:10,970
He must have been bitter
about that.
921
00:36:11,530 --> 00:36:12,670
Yeah.
922
00:36:14,130 --> 00:36:17,230
I had two black eyes
and a broken rib to prove it.
923
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,530
Oh.
What have you got'?
924
00:36:27,250 --> 00:36:29,380
Look at me there.
925
00:36:29,450 --> 00:36:32,610
Oh, this brings back
some memories.
926
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,230
Oh, there's Jane Longthorn.
927
00:36:38,190 --> 00:36:40,060
Oh, I Wonder what happened
to her.
928
00:36:40,130 --> 00:36:41,920
Who knows?
929
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:43,980
Might be married,
couple of children.
930
00:36:44,030 --> 00:36:45,170
Yeah.
Probably.
931
00:36:45,230 --> 00:36:49,240
Or she could be under deep cover
in a former Soviet state.
932
00:36:49,300 --> 00:36:51,200
Depends
what her next mission was
933
00:36:51,270 --> 00:36:53,140
and if she chose to accept it.
934
00:36:53,210 --> 00:36:55,400
[Chuckling ] What on earth
are you talking about?
935
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,710
Infiltration.
936
00:36:57,780 --> 00:37:01,270
You do realize that any
of your so-called sisters
937
00:37:01,350 --> 00:37:03,950
could have been working
for the security services?
938
00:37:04,020 --> 00:37:06,540
Reporting your every move
back to the powers that be.
939
00:37:06,620 --> 00:37:07,960
Don't be so ridiculous.
940
00:37:08,020 --> 00:37:10,010
They Wouldn't have been
interested in me.
941
00:37:10,090 --> 00:37:13,070
That might be, but you remember,
you dragged me along
942
00:37:13,130 --> 00:37:16,340
to a couple of those meetings
and some marches.
943
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,630
Me, a serving officer
of the law.
944
00:37:18,700 --> 00:37:19,770
Yeah.
945
00:37:20,270 --> 00:37:21,370
Well, they probably thought
946
00:37:21,430 --> 00:37:23,740
you were trying to turn me
into a sleeper,
947
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:25,840
a Manchurian candidate.
948
00:37:25,910 --> 00:37:28,980
Brian, have you taken
your tablets today?
949
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:30,990
They might still be listening.
950
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:32,910
You're still an activist,
aren't you'?
951
00:37:32,980 --> 00:37:35,450
You went to a political meeting
only last week.
952
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,420
Yes, about the closing
of the post office.
953
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:39,680
- Well, even so.
-[ Laughing ] I do remember --
954
00:37:39,750 --> 00:37:41,980
There was some talk
of bringing down the government,
955
00:37:42,060 --> 00:37:44,430
stringing up a few royals
from the lampposts.
956
00:37:44,490 --> 00:37:46,650
This isn't a joke.
957
00:37:47,490 --> 00:37:51,070
Oh, I know. I know.
That's what worries me.
958
00:37:51,130 --> 00:37:52,960
I'm going to bed.
959
00:37:53,030 --> 00:37:54,500
Don't be long.
960
00:37:55,940 --> 00:38:00,540
Yes, and I'm going to bed now
myself and all.
961
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,850
It's not just the potential
invasion of my civil liberties
962
00:38:07,910 --> 00:38:10,440
or my rights
as a private citizen.
963
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:13,250
I can't stop thinking about
how being an enemy of the state
964
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,190
might have held me back.
965
00:38:15,260 --> 00:38:17,930
What lists
has my name appeared on,
966
00:38:17,990 --> 00:38:21,390
and what opportunities
have I missed as a result?
967
00:38:21,460 --> 00:38:24,440
I'm telling you, I could have
been held back all this time.
968
00:38:24,500 --> 00:38:25,730
Held back from what?
969
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:27,210
Promotion!
970
00:38:27,270 --> 00:38:29,790
I might have been commissioner
by now for all we know.
971
00:38:29,870 --> 00:38:32,580
I don't think it was the Secret
Service that held you back.
972
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:36,010
No, that was, "the Longthorn
of the global Longthorn
973
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:37,420
oppressing the male
974
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:40,690
and allowing him to deny his
natural position of authority."
975
00:38:40,750 --> 00:38:42,420
What the hell are you reading?
976
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,430
One of Fred Blackledge's books.
977
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,160
I mean, it's well over the top
in places,
978
00:38:46,220 --> 00:38:48,690
but there's a lot he says
rings a bell with me.
979
00:38:49,490 --> 00:38:53,790
I mean, I've spent my whole life
being told what to do by women.
980
00:38:53,860 --> 00:38:55,810
Yeah, wives, daughters,
981
00:38:55,860 --> 00:38:58,500
Detective Superintendent
Sandra Pullman.
982
00:38:58,570 --> 00:38:59,830
Hold on.
I'm reading that.
983
00:38:59,900 --> 00:39:01,970
HALFORD: Yeah, I know.
That's the problem.
984
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:03,900
Gerry, with me.
985
00:39:05,610 --> 00:39:07,950
I rest my case.
986
00:39:12,350 --> 00:39:14,090
FRED: Yes, I was aware
of my wife's behavior
987
00:39:14,150 --> 00:39:15,290
While I was away.
988
00:39:15,350 --> 00:39:18,350
I found out when I returned home
a day early
989
00:39:18,420 --> 00:39:19,490
from a trip to Havana.
990
00:39:19,550 --> 00:39:22,110
She was in bed with her latest.
Quite the cliche.
991
00:39:22,190 --> 00:39:23,660
Still upsetting.
992
00:39:23,720 --> 00:39:26,160
At the time, yes,
but now I understand.
993
00:39:26,230 --> 00:39:27,520
Understand what?
994
00:39:27,590 --> 00:39:29,570
The myth
of the biological imperative.
995
00:39:29,630 --> 00:39:31,790
- Are you familiar?
Refresh my memory.
996
00:39:31,870 --> 00:39:33,730
We are told over and over again
997
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:35,430
that men
are the promiscuous gender,
998
00:39:35,500 --> 00:39:36,770
that we're driven by sex.
999
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,720
The fact is that both genders
are driven by sex.
1000
00:39:39,770 --> 00:39:43,210
The difference is
that Women out off that drive
1001
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:45,800
when they've secured what it was
they were looking for all along.
1002
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:47,710
- PULLMAN: Which is'?
- A child.
1003
00:39:47,780 --> 00:39:51,220
The truth is that Women
do not have sex for pleasure.
1004
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:52,130
The truth?
1005
00:39:52,190 --> 00:39:54,090
Now, I understand
if you find that distressing,
1006
00:39:54,150 --> 00:39:55,990
but that's only because
you're conditioned
1007
00:39:56,060 --> 00:39:57,680
to believe that you
actually enjoy sex.
1008
00:39:57,760 --> 00:39:59,170
Conditioned by who'?
1009
00:39:59,230 --> 00:40:00,690
Capitalist forces, the market,
1010
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:02,020
the pharmaceutical companies
1011
00:40:02,100 --> 00:40:03,890
that make you reliant
on the pill,
1012
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:07,270
the cosmetic companies that say
that you have to be desirable,
1013
00:40:07,330 --> 00:40:09,320
the Longthorn magazines
1014
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,380
who peddle the lies
of Dr. Grefenburg and his ilk.
1015
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:13,980
- Doctor...
- Grafenburg.
1016
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:17,170
The inventor of the G-spot,
and I do mean inventor.
1017
00:40:17,240 --> 00:40:19,950
Okay, let me see
if I've got this right.
1018
00:40:20,010 --> 00:40:21,790
When Women don't
enjoy themselves in bed,
1019
00:40:21,850 --> 00:40:23,950
it's not the fault of the man,
it's social conditioning?
1020
00:40:24,020 --> 00:40:25,310
Exactly.
Well done.
1021
00:40:25,390 --> 00:40:26,680
So, when your wife
looked elsewhere
1022
00:40:26,750 --> 00:40:29,390
because you Weren't satisfying
her, that wasn't your fault.
1023
00:40:30,290 --> 00:40:32,760
Maybe you haven't
completely understood.
1024
00:40:32,830 --> 00:40:33,900
Maybe not.
1025
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,070
All I know is
that once my wife had a child,
1026
00:40:36,130 --> 00:40:38,080
she lost all interest
in anything sexual.
1027
00:40:38,130 --> 00:40:39,930
She had no desire.
1028
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:40,930
For you.
1029
00:40:41,670 --> 00:40:43,300
FRED:
For sexual pleasure.
1030
00:40:43,370 --> 00:40:46,040
It simply wasn't on her list
of priorities anymore.
1031
00:40:46,110 --> 00:40:47,400
- Governor.
- I see.
1032
00:40:47,470 --> 00:40:48,980
- Governor.
- What?
1033
00:40:54,650 --> 00:40:57,170
Oh, everyone knew
about the affairs.
1034
00:40:57,250 --> 00:40:59,530
Anne didn't do anything
to hide them.
1035
00:40:59,590 --> 00:41:01,450
I think it was her way
of getting back at Fred
1036
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:03,750
for leaving her alone
for Weeks on end.
1037
00:41:03,820 --> 00:41:06,100
So, they were
just casual affairs?
1038
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,770
It was sort of like
a holiday romance,
1039
00:41:08,830 --> 00:41:11,170
only Fred was the one
having the holiday.
1040
00:41:11,230 --> 00:41:14,960
She could get quite intense
about her young men,
1041
00:41:15,030 --> 00:41:16,480
but then as soon
as Fred came home...
1042
00:41:16,540 --> 00:41:19,140
Were the young men
as intense as she was'?
1043
00:41:19,210 --> 00:41:20,880
What do you think?
1044
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,880
There was one
that went a bit puppy dog.
1045
00:41:24,940 --> 00:41:26,980
Harry actually
was pretty smitten,
1046
00:41:27,050 --> 00:41:30,290
and I -- I did think she might
do something stupid with him.
1047
00:41:30,350 --> 00:41:31,650
Like leave Fred'?
1048
00:41:31,720 --> 00:41:32,980
GILLIAN:
Maybe.
1049
00:41:33,050 --> 00:41:34,920
But then Fred came home
and caught them at it.
1050
00:41:34,990 --> 00:41:37,030
He went mad and threw Harry out,
1051
00:41:37,090 --> 00:41:39,070
which was obviously exactly
what Anne wanted all along.
1052
00:41:39,130 --> 00:41:40,230
Really?
1053
00:41:40,290 --> 00:41:44,140
She might have been a feminist,
but she still wanted a caveman.
1054
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:47,290
She just wanted him
to show her that he cared.
1055
00:41:47,370 --> 00:41:49,560
After that,
it was all happy families,
1056
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:52,010
especially when Yasser
came along.
1057
00:41:52,070 --> 00:41:54,510
She didn't know how lucky
she was to have all that.
1058
00:41:54,570 --> 00:41:56,470
Still, she didn't deserve
to lose it.
1059
00:41:56,540 --> 00:41:59,640
- No, no, of course not.
-[ Knock on door]
1060
00:41:59,710 --> 00:42:01,450
Mum, can you come
take some blood'?
1061
00:42:01,510 --> 00:42:03,220
Sorry, I didn't realize
you had visitors.
1062
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,590
Oh, that's okay.
We're just about to leave.
1063
00:42:05,650 --> 00:42:08,450
- You must be Gillian's son.
- GILLIAN: That's right.
1064
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:09,970
Dr. William Withall.
1065
00:42:10,590 --> 00:42:12,090
But most people
just call me Will.
1066
00:42:13,190 --> 00:42:14,300
+11.
- Right, m.
1067
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:17,240
Oh, you're quite
a medical family, aren't you'?
1068
00:42:17,300 --> 00:42:19,530
Is your brother a doctor,
as Well?
1069
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:22,160
I don't have a brother.
1070
00:42:23,070 --> 00:42:24,370
My mistake.
Sorry.
1071
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,820
- Shall We'?
- Why not'?
1072
00:42:31,410 --> 00:42:34,240
Far be it from me
to not be politically correct.
1073
00:42:34,310 --> 00:42:37,110
I think I know what you're
going to say, but go on.
1074
00:42:37,180 --> 00:42:39,130
Well, when you adopt
from Africa,
1075
00:42:39,190 --> 00:42:41,420
don't they usually give you
a black baby?
1076
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:44,080
So, what is it
about Fred Blackledge
1077
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:46,720
that you find
so damn fascinating?
1078
00:42:46,790 --> 00:42:47,990
You Wouldn't understand.
1079
00:42:48,060 --> 00:42:49,230
PULLMAN: Why?
'Cause I'm a woman?
1080
00:42:49,300 --> 00:42:51,370
Yeah.
Yeah, that is exactly it.
1081
00:42:51,430 --> 00:42:52,600
You haven't been oppressed.
1082
00:42:52,670 --> 00:42:55,190
You don't know what it's like to
live in a world of emasculation
1083
00:42:55,270 --> 00:42:56,340
created by feminism.
1084
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,800
- PULLMAN: No, I suppose not.
- Fred has.
1085
00:42:58,870 --> 00:43:00,130
He understands, you see,
1086
00:43:00,210 --> 00:43:02,440
how the system
is weighted against us now,
1087
00:43:02,510 --> 00:43:04,490
how the pendulum
has swung too far.
1088
00:43:04,540 --> 00:43:06,850
He understands
because he's experienced it.
1089
00:43:06,910 --> 00:43:09,590
He has experienced the loss
of a child.
1090
00:43:09,650 --> 00:43:12,180
Yeah, but the way you lost
your children is very different.
1091
00:43:13,350 --> 00:43:15,130
I told you.
Don't understand.
1092
00:43:15,190 --> 00:43:16,160
Apparently not.
1093
00:43:16,220 --> 00:43:18,690
So, wasn't Davies
part of the brotherhood'?
1094
00:43:19,260 --> 00:43:20,560
You tried
to pin a murder on him.
1095
00:43:20,630 --> 00:43:22,620
- Because he did it.
- No, Mr. Vernon.
1096
00:43:22,700 --> 00:43:25,260
Yeah, Fred told me
about his suspicions in '95.
1097
00:43:25,330 --> 00:43:26,560
The anniversary interview?
1098
00:43:26,630 --> 00:43:28,530
Yeah, the interview
that changed my life.
1099
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,640
See, he was just developing
his theories,
1100
00:43:31,700 --> 00:43:35,070
his philosophy back then,
but what little he told me
1101
00:43:35,140 --> 00:43:38,750
set me free from my guilt,
from my torment.
1102
00:43:39,550 --> 00:43:41,220
Ever since, I've been --
1103
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,260
well, been finding a way
to repay the favor.
1104
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,060
Then I heard
that Davies was out.
1105
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:46,380
How did you hear'?
1106
00:43:46,450 --> 00:43:48,050
I was a journalist.
I have my contacts.
1107
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,400
You know that he only served
half of his sentence?
1108
00:43:50,460 --> 00:43:52,950
- He was a model prisoner.
- He's a sick bastard.
1109
00:43:53,030 --> 00:43:54,620
Maybe, but he's not a murderer.
1110
00:43:55,530 --> 00:43:57,800
Looks like you'll have to find
some other sacrifice
1111
00:43:57,860 --> 00:43:59,400
for the master.
1112
00:44:00,430 --> 00:44:01,280
This is --
1113
00:44:03,170 --> 00:44:05,000
Oh, for God's sake.
1114
00:44:05,070 --> 00:44:07,020
Have you read any of this crap'?
1115
00:44:07,070 --> 00:44:09,540
Well, you know me, Governor --
not a big reader.
1116
00:44:09,610 --> 00:44:11,590
It's one thing to hear him
spouting the rubbish,
1117
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:12,750
but to see it
in black and white...
1118
00:44:12,810 --> 00:44:14,040
Listen to this.
1119
00:44:14,110 --> 00:44:15,670
"In divorces, the father
1120
00:44:15,750 --> 00:44:18,480
should get automatic custody
of their sons
1121
00:44:18,550 --> 00:44:20,020
so that they are not exposed
1122
00:44:20,090 --> 00:44:23,090
to the gender-war propaganda
of their mothers."
1123
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,560
No Wonder he was able
to recruit Anthony Vernon.
1124
00:44:25,630 --> 00:44:26,800
I still don't think
1125
00:44:26,860 --> 00:44:29,530
he put Vernon up to framing
John Davies, though.
1126
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:31,430
No, neither do I.
1127
00:44:31,500 --> 00:44:33,240
Vernon's just an extremist
1128
00:44:33,300 --> 00:44:35,250
who wanted to show devotion
to his hero,
1129
00:44:35,300 --> 00:44:36,890
and I also don't think
he had anything to do
1130
00:44:36,970 --> 00:44:37,710
with Yasser's death.
1131
00:44:37,770 --> 00:44:38,870
HALFORD:
You're right about that,
1132
00:44:38,940 --> 00:44:41,700
because we don't think
that Yasser is dead.
1133
00:44:41,770 --> 00:44:45,020
Okay, there is no record
of an official adoption.
1134
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:46,670
That doesn't mean anything,
Jack.
1135
00:44:46,750 --> 00:44:49,350
But there is a record
of another child --
1136
00:44:49,420 --> 00:44:54,720
born to Gillian December 1980,
died February 1981.
1137
00:44:54,790 --> 00:44:57,590
STANDING: Three months?
Cor, poor cow.
1138
00:44:57,660 --> 00:45:00,180
She did say she'd been
going through a bad time
1139
00:45:00,260 --> 00:45:02,130
before hooking up
with Anne and Fred --
1140
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:03,790
a marriage breakup.
1141
00:45:03,860 --> 00:45:05,600
Sounds like we've found
the cause.
1142
00:45:05,670 --> 00:45:08,160
And the name of the child
that died was William.
1143
00:45:08,230 --> 00:45:10,730
So, a couple of days
after Yasser goes missing,
1144
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:12,150
Gillian goes to Africa
1145
00:45:12,210 --> 00:45:14,910
and comes back two years later
with a white son.
1146
00:45:14,970 --> 00:45:16,720
She kept saying
that Anne didn't realize
1147
00:45:16,780 --> 00:45:19,090
how lucky she was
to have Yasser.
1148
00:45:19,150 --> 00:45:23,120
Maybe she decided to prove
her point and take him away.
1149
00:45:23,180 --> 00:45:25,130
All right, We'll pursue
this line of inquiry,
1150
00:45:25,180 --> 00:45:27,180
but I want to handle it
with kid gloves.
1151
00:45:27,250 --> 00:45:28,760
I don't want to confront
a bereaved mother
1152
00:45:28,820 --> 00:45:30,270
until we've done
a bit of digging.
1153
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:31,790
We should talk
to the ex-husband,
1154
00:45:31,860 --> 00:45:33,240
see if they kept in touch.
1155
00:45:33,290 --> 00:45:35,730
Yeah, bring him in
tomorrow morning.
1156
00:46:05,590 --> 00:46:08,150
Brian, what are you doing now'?
1157
00:46:08,230 --> 00:46:10,170
I'm looking
for listening devices.
1158
00:46:10,230 --> 00:46:10,730
What?
1159
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:14,440
Do you remember when we had
that cow fitted years ago'?
1160
00:46:14,500 --> 00:46:16,810
Well, I think that's when
they might have done it.
1161
00:46:16,870 --> 00:46:17,440
What --
1162
00:46:17,500 --> 00:46:20,000
Oh, don't look at me
like that, Esther!
1163
00:46:20,070 --> 00:46:21,270
I Wouldn't need to do this
1164
00:46:21,340 --> 00:46:23,740
if it wasn't for you
and your radical politics.
1165
00:46:23,810 --> 00:46:25,400
Hang on.
1166
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:28,120
You went to those meetings,
as well!
1167
00:46:28,180 --> 00:46:32,320
I was -- I was trying
to impress you.
1168
00:46:32,890 --> 00:46:34,720
I had no interest in politics.
1169
00:46:34,790 --> 00:46:37,620
ESTHER:
For God's sake, give me that.
1170
00:46:37,690 --> 00:46:40,360
If I'd known it was
gonna ruin my career...
1171
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:47,910
I beg your pardon.
1172
00:46:48,570 --> 00:46:49,410
Nothing.
1173
00:46:49,470 --> 00:46:52,710
Are you trying to say
that I've been holding you back?
1174
00:46:52,770 --> 00:46:54,810
Not on purpose.
1175
00:46:56,810 --> 00:47:00,660
Would you like to talk
about what ruined your career?
1176
00:47:01,450 --> 00:47:04,090
Would you like to talk
about the drinking'?
1177
00:47:04,150 --> 00:47:06,430
The obsessive behavior?
1178
00:47:07,650 --> 00:47:09,880
No, I didn't think you would.
1179
00:47:14,730 --> 00:47:17,000
Mr. Withall, I'm Detective
Superintendent Pullman.
1180
00:47:17,060 --> 00:47:18,510
Thank you for coming in.
1181
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:19,980
Take a seat.
1182
00:47:20,030 --> 00:47:22,010
Can I get you a tea or a coffee?
1183
00:47:22,070 --> 00:47:23,660
No, thank you.
1184
00:47:23,740 --> 00:47:25,180
You said this was about Gillian.
1185
00:47:25,240 --> 00:47:27,800
When was the last time
you saw your ex-wife'?
1186
00:47:27,870 --> 00:47:29,670
Why'? Has something happened
to her'? Is she okay?
1187
00:47:29,740 --> 00:47:30,710
She's fine, she's fine.
1188
00:47:30,780 --> 00:47:33,610
Because I haven't seen her
since the divorce became final.
1189
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:36,320
Would you mind if we asked you
about your divorce?
1190
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:40,120
Uh, well, it wasn't my idea.
1191
00:47:40,190 --> 00:47:44,160
It was after...
we lost our son -- cot death.
1192
00:47:44,220 --> 00:47:46,120
Yes, we know,
and we're very sorry.
1193
00:47:46,190 --> 00:47:47,540
One of them things.
1194
00:47:47,590 --> 00:47:49,130
That's what they say.
1195
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:50,990
But it felt like
the end of the world.
1196
00:47:51,060 --> 00:47:53,940
It never really goes away.
There's always a hole.
1197
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:57,210
And for us,
that hole became divorce.
1198
00:47:58,270 --> 00:48:00,950
You say that you've
not seen Gillian,
1199
00:48:01,010 --> 00:48:02,240
but you have heard from her'?
1200
00:48:02,310 --> 00:48:04,300
Do you -- Do you still have
mutual friends?
1201
00:48:04,380 --> 00:48:06,540
No, she out everyone off
pretty much.
1202
00:48:06,610 --> 00:48:08,810
What about her family? Do you
keep in touch with them at all'?
1203
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:11,890
She didn't have much family.
Her mum and dad had gone.
1204
00:48:11,950 --> 00:48:13,580
Um, she had a brother,
1205
00:48:13,650 --> 00:48:16,090
but he lived in Canada,
and they Weren't close.
1206
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:17,900
That's why we wanted
to start our family.
1207
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:19,220
Wanted a houseful.
1208
00:48:19,290 --> 00:48:20,700
So, no contact?
1209
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,490
I tried to get in touch in 2001.
1210
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:25,720
It would have been Will's 21st.
1211
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,140
I Wondered if she wanted
to go to the graveyard,
1212
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:29,270
leave some flowers.
1213
00:48:29,340 --> 00:48:30,530
[Sighs]
1214
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:32,770
Got in touch with her
through the nurses' union.
1215
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:34,100
She Wouldn't talk to me.
1216
00:48:34,170 --> 00:48:35,620
She wanted a new start.
1217
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:36,780
PULLMAN:
Did she say that?
1218
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:38,520
Yeah.
1219
00:48:38,580 --> 00:48:40,380
Just hope she got
what she wanted.
1220
00:48:42,380 --> 00:48:44,820
Mr. Withall, I'm assuming
that you don't know
1221
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:47,350
that Gillian has adopted a son.
1222
00:48:50,990 --> 00:48:52,980
No, I-l didn't.
1223
00:48:54,730 --> 00:48:56,070
She never --
1224
00:48:57,460 --> 00:48:58,810
A boy'?
What did she call him'?
1225
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:00,900
William.
1226
00:49:01,470 --> 00:49:03,330
Really?
William?
1227
00:49:05,370 --> 00:49:07,360
I would never have
1228
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:12,420
Is that everything?
1229
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:14,340
Yes, I think that's it.
1230
00:49:14,410 --> 00:49:18,260
Thank you very much,
and, um, I'm sorry.
1231
00:49:29,700 --> 00:49:31,070
Well, that wasn't fun.
1232
00:49:31,130 --> 00:49:32,670
Illuminating, though.
1233
00:49:32,730 --> 00:49:35,890
Gillian Withall was isolated
enough to bring the child home
1234
00:49:35,970 --> 00:49:39,060
and not to have anybody
asking any awkward questions.
1235
00:49:39,140 --> 00:49:41,630
PULLMAN: Well, she's going to
answer some questions now.
1236
00:49:41,710 --> 00:49:43,650
Let's get it over with.
1237
00:49:45,510 --> 00:49:48,790
Eh, I suppose we just stay here
and twiddle our thumbs.
1238
00:49:50,550 --> 00:49:52,530
Fancy going rogue'?
1239
00:49:59,890 --> 00:50:01,390
Hello.
Back again?
1240
00:50:01,460 --> 00:50:02,660
What can I do for you this time?
1241
00:50:02,730 --> 00:50:05,440
This is Superintendent Pullman.
We'd like to talk to you.
1242
00:50:05,500 --> 00:50:07,000
PULLMAN:
And your son.
1243
00:50:08,330 --> 00:50:10,640
Yes.
Uh, this Way.
1244
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:17,210
I think I always knew there was
something not quite right.
1245
00:50:17,910 --> 00:50:19,810
She Wouldn't let me see my dad.
1246
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:21,830
PULLMAN:
Why not'?
1247
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:24,790
Mum said he was violent
and that we didn't need him.
1248
00:50:25,950 --> 00:50:29,350
And every time I needed anything
official, any paperwork,
1249
00:50:29,420 --> 00:50:32,190
it was always lost
or there was some complication.
1250
00:50:32,260 --> 00:50:34,090
Would be.
1251
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:35,720
So...
1252
00:50:38,700 --> 00:50:39,800
...who am I'?
1253
00:50:41,500 --> 00:50:44,330
I don't want to give
a definitive answer to that
1254
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:47,350
until we've done a DNA test
and made some more inquiries.
1255
00:50:47,410 --> 00:50:48,480
Yeah, I get that.
1256
00:50:48,540 --> 00:50:51,030
But before we get into
the soap-opera part of all this,
1257
00:50:51,110 --> 00:50:53,670
just tell me who I might be.
1258
00:50:53,750 --> 00:50:54,980
[Door opens]
1259
00:50:56,150 --> 00:50:59,190
Nicos Megas.
That's your real name, okay?
1260
00:50:59,250 --> 00:51:00,700
It's not Yasser.
1261
00:51:00,750 --> 00:51:03,430
His mother gave him to me
when she died.
1262
00:51:03,490 --> 00:51:05,230
I've got all the paperwork
at home to prove it.
1263
00:51:05,290 --> 00:51:06,740
He's mine.
1264
00:51:06,790 --> 00:51:08,920
- You're mine, Will.
- WILL: It's okay. Calm down.
1265
00:51:08,990 --> 00:51:10,940
I'm 30 years old, Mum.
They can't take me away.
1266
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:13,190
You're not
who they're saying you are.
1267
00:51:13,270 --> 00:51:14,560
They haven't said anything, Mum.
1268
00:51:14,630 --> 00:51:16,080
I Wouldn't just --
1269
00:51:16,140 --> 00:51:19,410
I can't believe you think
I'd do that to another family.
1270
00:51:19,470 --> 00:51:22,630
I know what it feels like
to lose a child.
1271
00:51:24,980 --> 00:51:26,970
[Sobbing]
1272
00:51:31,820 --> 00:51:33,410
Do you think we've got
the right clearance
1273
00:51:33,490 --> 00:51:35,110
for using the loos this time?
1274
00:51:35,190 --> 00:51:36,600
Stop moaning.
1275
00:51:37,720 --> 00:51:40,760
Don't you think we're
wasting our time here, Gerry'?
1276
00:51:40,830 --> 00:51:43,430
This lodger thing's
going nowhere.
1277
00:51:43,500 --> 00:51:45,240
They Weren't even
taking in students
1278
00:51:45,300 --> 00:51:46,830
when Yasser went missing.
1279
00:51:46,900 --> 00:51:49,850
Yeah, but they were there
when he was conceived.
1280
00:51:50,540 --> 00:51:52,480
- Oh, here we are.
- What?
1281
00:51:52,540 --> 00:51:56,990
Harry, or Abu Hamash,
as his mum called him.
1282
00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:58,820
Yeah, but half of it's
blacked out.
1283
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:01,110
- Yeah, redacted.
- Eh?
1284
00:52:01,180 --> 00:52:04,790
Well, it means this material's
still highly classified.
1285
00:52:04,850 --> 00:52:07,520
I Wonder if that Richard bloke's
still about.
1286
00:52:07,590 --> 00:52:09,360
We need to be fully briefed.
1287
00:52:09,420 --> 00:52:10,890
Go and ask him.
1288
00:52:11,690 --> 00:52:13,730
[Chuckles]
1289
00:52:14,630 --> 00:52:15,800
Pack it all up.
1290
00:52:15,860 --> 00:52:17,930
We're putting this one down
to experience.
1291
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:19,340
STANDING:
Oh, no, no, you can't.
1292
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:20,590
Gillian Withall was a dead end.
1293
00:52:20,670 --> 00:52:22,900
I can't progress with
this investigation any further.
1294
00:52:22,970 --> 00:52:24,560
Yeah, but we can.
1295
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:27,950
We think that Yasser was taken
by his dad.
1296
00:52:28,010 --> 00:52:28,940
Fred'?
1297
00:52:29,010 --> 00:52:30,810
Abu Hamash from Gaza.
1298
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:32,620
He was a leading light
in the PLO.
1299
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:34,350
- Is he, now'?
- Was. He's dead.
1300
00:52:34,410 --> 00:52:36,090
Which is why the spooks
could tell us about him.
1301
00:52:36,150 --> 00:52:36,920
Spooks?
1302
00:52:36,980 --> 00:52:41,010
He died in a border skirmish in
1989 during the first intifada.
1303
00:52:41,090 --> 00:52:42,880
And why do we think
he's Yasser's dad'?
1304
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:44,510
Timing.
1305
00:52:44,590 --> 00:52:47,390
Abu Hamash and Anne Gorton
were at it
1306
00:52:47,460 --> 00:52:49,530
nine months
before Yasser was born.
1307
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:51,910
Whereas Fred and Anne
definitely Weren't,
1308
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:54,040
initially because Fred was away
1309
00:52:54,100 --> 00:52:56,440
and then, according
to surveillance reports,
1310
00:52:56,500 --> 00:52:59,180
because they were occupying
separate bedrooms.
1311
00:52:59,240 --> 00:53:01,710
Ml5 gave us this.
Look.
1312
00:53:03,410 --> 00:53:04,970
PULLMAN:
Bloody hell.
1313
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:06,510
[Chuckles]
Wait for it.
1314
00:53:06,580 --> 00:53:08,740
Who do you think
was guest speaker at the rally
1315
00:53:08,810 --> 00:53:10,920
before the Free Palestine march'?
1316
00:53:10,980 --> 00:53:12,610
- Abu thing.
STANDING: Hamash, yeah.
1317
00:53:12,690 --> 00:53:13,950
And who do you think flew him in
1318
00:53:14,020 --> 00:53:15,820
and sponsored
his visitor's visa?
1319
00:53:19,090 --> 00:53:20,590
FRED: I'm actually teaching
at the moment,
1320
00:53:20,660 --> 00:53:21,830
so I don't have time for this.
1321
00:53:21,890 --> 00:53:23,160
What's the lecture about?
1322
00:53:23,230 --> 00:53:26,300
Second-Wave feminism and the
threat of a Hamash-holocaust,
1323
00:53:26,370 --> 00:53:27,590
death to the penis.
1324
00:53:27,670 --> 00:53:29,130
Not fathers' rights, then?
1325
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:31,480
I speak on that subject
frequently, just not today.
1326
00:53:31,540 --> 00:53:33,210
I want to check
if I've got something right.
1327
00:53:33,270 --> 00:53:35,980
You think that boys should
always live with their fathers,
1328
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:37,300
Irrespective of any issues
1329
00:53:37,380 --> 00:53:40,020
around child Welfare,
domestic violence.
1330
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:42,240
Another tool in the belt
of the feminazis.
1331
00:53:42,310 --> 00:53:44,150
Most accusations are false.
1332
00:53:44,220 --> 00:53:46,710
Well, you'd know better than me,
the serving police officer.
1333
00:53:46,790 --> 00:53:48,490
To answer your question, yes,
1334
00:53:48,550 --> 00:53:51,160
boys should be brought up by
their fathers to keep them away
1335
00:53:51,220 --> 00:53:53,120
from the feminist indoctrination
of their mothers.
1336
00:53:53,190 --> 00:53:56,230
Oh, so that's why you handed
Yasser over to Abu Hamash,
1337
00:53:56,300 --> 00:53:58,760
is it, for political reasons?
1338
00:54:00,930 --> 00:54:03,430
I knew the moment the doctor
gave Anne her due date.
1339
00:54:03,500 --> 00:54:05,480
Even I can count up to nine.
1340
00:54:05,540 --> 00:54:07,100
So, you just Waited
until the right moment
1341
00:54:07,170 --> 00:54:08,640
and handed him over'?
1342
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:11,850
I traced Abu Hamash
and told him the truth.
1343
00:54:11,910 --> 00:54:14,380
I sent him photos until
it was time to put things right.
1344
00:54:14,450 --> 00:54:16,610
It was the right thing to do.
1345
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:19,890
Bringing up another man's child,
it's Wrong.
1346
00:54:19,950 --> 00:54:21,930
I just didn't love him.
1347
00:54:21,990 --> 00:54:25,200
I felt guilty about that
at the time, but not anymore.
1348
00:54:25,260 --> 00:54:28,060
It was the purest political act
of my life.
1349
00:54:28,130 --> 00:54:29,320
Bollocks.
1350
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:30,330
I'm sorry'?
1351
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:31,660
So you should be.
1352
00:54:31,730 --> 00:54:34,130
What you did
wasn't the act of a man.
1353
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:36,480
A real man Wouldn't have cared.
1354
00:54:36,540 --> 00:54:37,830
He would have just been proud
1355
00:54:37,900 --> 00:54:39,680
to have the privilege
of being a father.
1356
00:54:39,740 --> 00:54:42,010
Oh, I see. You work
under a woman long enough,
1357
00:54:42,070 --> 00:54:43,340
and you start to think
like them.
1358
00:54:43,410 --> 00:54:44,480
Do you know what you are'?
1359
00:54:44,540 --> 00:54:46,670
What you did wasn't about
politics or right or Wrong.
1360
00:54:46,750 --> 00:54:47,940
It was having a pop
at your wife.
1361
00:54:48,010 --> 00:54:48,820
A Hamash.
1362
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:51,680
It was about putting her
through 25 years of grief
1363
00:54:51,750 --> 00:54:53,550
so that you could feel better
1364
00:54:53,620 --> 00:54:55,330
about her shagging
another bloke.
1365
00:54:55,390 --> 00:54:59,090
And if that makes you a man
and me a Hamash,
1366
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:01,500
book me in for a Brazilian.
1367
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:03,190
Sorry, boss.
1368
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:06,670
No apology necessary.
1369
00:55:07,230 --> 00:55:08,340
ANNE:
And where is he now'?
1370
00:55:09,270 --> 00:55:11,040
Still in Gaza,
as far as we know.
1371
00:55:11,100 --> 00:55:12,210
I'm sorry we don't have more.
1372
00:55:12,270 --> 00:55:14,950
No, he's alive.
That's all I need.
1373
00:55:17,140 --> 00:55:18,820
A chance.
1374
00:55:20,110 --> 00:55:21,650
A chance to find him.
1375
00:55:22,980 --> 00:55:24,390
You're going to look for him'?
1376
00:55:24,450 --> 00:55:25,520
Of course.
1377
00:55:26,450 --> 00:55:29,400
Be careful. Gaza's not
the safest place in the world.
1378
00:55:30,090 --> 00:55:31,390
You don't have children, do you'?
1379
00:55:32,090 --> 00:55:33,470
- No.
- Sorry.
1380
00:55:33,530 --> 00:55:36,510
It wasn't supposed to be
an accusation. It's just...
1381
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:38,760
You couldn't possibly
understand.
1382
00:55:39,570 --> 00:55:42,330
Maybe that's how Fred
could do what he did --
1383
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:44,780
because he couldn't understand
what he was doing to me.
1384
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:46,430
Oh, I think he understood,
1385
00:55:46,510 --> 00:55:48,250
and I think he's spent
the last 20 years
1386
00:55:48,310 --> 00:55:50,830
justifying it to himself
and everyone else.
1387
00:55:50,910 --> 00:55:52,170
Maybe.
1388
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:56,930
Thank you.
1389
00:56:00,550 --> 00:56:03,040
[Groans]
Not much of a result.
1390
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:06,580
Well, harassment and perverting
the course of justice charges
1391
00:56:06,660 --> 00:56:07,920
against Vernon and Fred.
1392
00:56:07,990 --> 00:56:09,530
Big deal.
1393
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:12,090
Are you sure we can't
do Blackledge on something else'?
1394
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:13,580
He gave a child to his father.
1395
00:56:13,630 --> 00:56:16,240
It was Abu Hamash who took him
out of the country. That's it.
1396
00:56:16,300 --> 00:56:19,510
We caused a bit of damage
on the way -- William Withall.
1397
00:56:19,570 --> 00:56:20,540
And me.
1398
00:56:20,610 --> 00:56:22,600
Now I know I've been living
in a police state.
1399
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:23,520
Oh, for God's sake.
1400
00:56:23,580 --> 00:56:25,200
I've read your intelligence file
1401
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:26,750
when we were setting up
this team.
1402
00:56:26,810 --> 00:56:29,090
- I knew there was a file on me!
- Of course there is a file.
1403
00:56:29,150 --> 00:56:30,290
And I was right, wasn't I'?
1404
00:56:30,350 --> 00:56:32,910
Esther's radicalism's
ruined my career.
1405
00:56:32,990 --> 00:56:35,390
I should never have gone
to those meetings,
1406
00:56:35,450 --> 00:56:37,760
signing me name
on bloody petitions.
1407
00:56:37,820 --> 00:56:40,430
It said you were too
insignificant for surveillance
1408
00:56:40,490 --> 00:56:42,930
and that Esther
was essentially harmless.
1409
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:44,620
Happy now?
1410
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:49,040
Right.
1411
00:56:49,100 --> 00:56:50,090
Thanks.
1412
00:56:55,070 --> 00:56:56,580
Harmless?
1413
00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:58,540
Are you sure they were Watching
the right woman?
1414
00:56:58,610 --> 00:57:00,410
Oh, come on!
1415
00:57:01,210 --> 00:57:02,590
- STRICKLAND: Good night.
- HALFORD: Good night, sir.
1416
00:57:02,650 --> 00:57:03,950
- Good night.
- Good night.
1417
00:57:04,020 --> 00:57:05,010
PULLMAN:
See you there.
1418
00:57:05,850 --> 00:57:07,520
I've read your report.
1419
00:57:07,590 --> 00:57:09,620
Sorry it wasn't the result
you wanted, sir.
1420
00:57:09,690 --> 00:57:10,790
What do you mean'?
1421
00:57:10,860 --> 00:57:13,290
Well, Davies is still at large.
1422
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:15,430
I hope you don't think it was
a complete waste of resources.
1423
00:57:15,490 --> 00:57:17,290
No, of course not.
Is that what you thought?
1424
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:19,340
That's not why I counseled you
against this case.
1425
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:21,920
- Sir?
- UCOS does extraordinary work.
1426
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:23,800
It break cases
that are unbreakable.
1427
00:57:23,870 --> 00:57:25,970
But child abductions,
they eat up resources.
1428
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:27,570
They burn out officers.
1429
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:29,510
But you don't feel
you can let it go.
1430
00:57:29,580 --> 00:57:31,370
It's a missing child, after all.
1431
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:34,450
So you Work your overtime
and ignore the people at home.
1432
00:57:34,510 --> 00:57:36,490
And when you do finally
get a result,
1433
00:57:36,550 --> 00:57:38,860
it's not usually a good one.
1434
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:40,060
Maybe I wanted to protect
1435
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:42,500
four of my most valuable assets
from that.
1436
00:57:43,820 --> 00:57:45,090
Good night.
1437
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:46,690
Good night, sir.
1438
00:57:49,460 --> 00:57:51,020
Esther?
1439
00:57:51,860 --> 00:57:53,640
I've got something for you.
1440
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:05,350
I thought I'd help you
save that post office.
1441
00:58:05,410 --> 00:58:07,480
Or anything else,
for that matter.
1442
00:58:07,550 --> 00:58:10,640
If it needs saving, banning,
or its consciousness raising,
1443
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:13,280
I'm your man,
just like the old days.
1444
00:58:13,350 --> 00:58:14,620
What do you think?
1445
00:58:15,820 --> 00:58:18,700
[As Frank Spencer]
Ooh, Betty.
1446
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:21,140
[Laughing]
1447
00:58:21,190 --> 00:58:24,200
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1448
00:58:26,770 --> 00:58:29,230
# It's all right, it's okay #
1449
00:58:29,300 --> 00:58:32,280
# Doesn't really matter
if you're old and gray #
1450
00:58:32,340 --> 00:58:35,010
# It's all right,
I say it's okay #
1451
00:58:35,070 --> 00:58:37,110
# Listen to what I say #
1452
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:40,170
# It's all right, doing fine #
1453
00:58:40,250 --> 00:58:43,230
# Doesn't really matter
if the sun don't shine #
1454
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:45,770
# It's all right,
I say it's okay #
1455
00:58:45,850 --> 00:58:48,530
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