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This was my house.
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I decorated it. I weeded it.
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I planted. I mowed. I did everything.
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I was happy.
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Ryder loved it here.
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But seeing it, it just makes me angry.
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I really have a hard time believing that
the person that I've known for 25 years,
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my best friend and roommate,
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could do what she did.
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But it was diabolical.
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It was evil.
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It was plotted and planned so perfectly.
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She found joy in tormenting me.
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I don't think I was human to her.
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I think if I had died,
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she would have sat
in this house with my child,
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and I don't think
she would have ever thought of it again.
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I met Janie in 1995.
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I was 22,
and she was four years older than me.
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She was a very nice person.
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Very sweet.
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A little bit shyish and introverted.
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When we met
and we started hanging out socially,
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I had gone through a divorce
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and, um, moved back to my parents' home.
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Rachel and I were very close
when she was growing up.
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{\an8}She's the sixth out of seven children.
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Rachel's first husband
was quite opinionated.
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He wanted things done his way.
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And I think it was a bad start for her,
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and I think that's why
it ended so quickly.
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After Rachel's divorce,
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I think she felt probably not as confident
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as maybe she should have.
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And that's when she met Janie.
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I was so used
to being constantly criticized.
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But she didn't judge me.
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{\an8}And it felt like I finally found somebody
who was letting me be me.
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I lived at home with my parents,
but was hoping to get out.
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And she had lived
in an apartment by herself
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that had gotten broken into,
and she didn't want to live alone.
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We'd only known each other
a couple months,
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but we just looked at each other
and, "Okay, there's the solution."
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When I first moved in with Janie,
I felt very safe.
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I had never lived alone.
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I went from my dad's house,
to college, to married.
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Her strengths were the finances,
making sure bills were paid.
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You know, we had my money and her money,
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but she still made decisions
about what I did with my money,
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and what I bought.
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And so she just seemed so adult to me.
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She just quietly taught me
how to do some of these things.
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{\an8}And my strengths
were helping her make friends,
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but also helping her have fun.
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Janie and I, we'd go, you know,
to bars or go dancing.
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We'd sometimes pretend
like I didn't speak English
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and she was my interpreter.
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We were immature and kind of silly,
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but we had fun.
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{\an8}When we first met Janie, we did not, uh...
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{\an8}think she was as odd
as she ended up being.
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I think Janie had not really had
very many girlfriends
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or friends growing up,
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and she attached herself to Rachel
and really, I think,
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kind of tried to be like her
and... and wanted to, you know,
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dress like her and... and be her friend.
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When I met Rachel,
initially, it was just in passing
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because I was still a student
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{\an8}at the University of Utah
School of Medicine,
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{\an8}doing rotations through
the emergency department,
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{\an8}and she was a paramedic.
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And so, you know,
you become friendly with the people
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who drop patients off.
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Rachel was fun and gregarious,
and always out and about,
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and dating, and had friends
and a great job.
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As gregarious and outgoing as Rachel is,
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Janie was the yang to that yin.
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So quiet, reserved.
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Any time that we would
maybe go out dancing,
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if someone would come to try to talk
with Rachel or maybe ask her to dance,
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there was an air of resentment
that would come over Janie.
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There was this undercurrent, always,
of possessiveness
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that was directed toward Rachel.
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I eventually met this guy.
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He was dreamy,
and I was just head over heels.
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Janie started to react differently.
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She was very aggressive
in her, you know, opinions of him.
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And something in her changed,
and it was very dark.
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I'd never seen that side of her.
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We'd be watching a movie,
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and she'd stand
at the bottom of the stairs
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and scream at the top of her lungs at me
about how loud the movie was.
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It was embarrassing.
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But her excuse was always,
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"I'm protective of you
because he seems like he's a player."
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So I felt bad
for even being upset with her.
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I initially thought
that it was an instance
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of unrequited love,
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or some sort of jilting of someone
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who wanted to be
in a romantic relationship
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with her best friend.
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That kind of began the era
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where everyone thought
that she was in love with me.
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And she wasn't.
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She's not in love with me.
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But then she started to get jealous
if I made friends.
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She would almost incoherently
start screaming at me.
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In front of the person,
she would call me a whore.
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When I would ask her,
"Do you just not like me?"
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she would say, "You're my family.
I just don't want to lose you."
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So...
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You know, looking back, it's easy to see
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some of the controlling nature
that was going on.
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And it worked because eventually
I did slim down my social activities
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to suit her
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because I felt
like I was being a bad person.
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Their friendship seemed to be one born
out of a balance of highs and lows
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and that glue of opposites attract.
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And perhaps somewhere in there,
a codependency developed.
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I was a paramedic for six years,
and then I hurt my back.
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{\an8}I herniated a disc,
and I tried to go back to work,
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and I just kept hurting it.
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The doctor's saying I can't sit
for X amount of time,
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I can't lift more than ten pounds.
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And so because of, um, the back injury,
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I was no longer able
to work as a paramedic.
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Prior to that,
Janie took care of the money issues,
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but I contributed financially.
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And for the first time, I didn't.
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And I felt guilty about that.
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I was always big into fitness
and being active,
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my career, and being social.
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All three of those things
were taken away immediately.
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And it was a very short period of time
between this happening
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and then I found out
I was pregnant at the same time.
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It was a situation
where the biological father,
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he opted out.
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Janie and I, we had at this point
been roommates for many, many years.
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And for the first time in our friendship,
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Janie had 100% control over me
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because I didn't have a job,
I was pregnant,
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I had a back injury,
and I was in so much pain,
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I needed her.
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So it... it was tough.
It was really, really tough.
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I didn't have anything that I enjoyed
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other than Ryder.
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Can you describe Ryder?
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Ryder, please leave.
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He will walk around
trying to get everyone to...
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Ryder... Ryder, come here.
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Ryder is magic.
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He's the best thing I've ever done.
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Ryder was born in 2010.
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Ryder has autism,
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and so he's conversationally nonverbal.
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When he was young, they told me
that he likely wouldn't speak at all,
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because by a certain age,
he didn't have any verbal skills.
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I'm big into music
because I was always in dance, and I...
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When I run, I lose myself in music.
I put headphones on.
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And so for the next 18 months,
I sang everything to him.
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Because the neuroplasticity,
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it's a different pathway
for speech than in singing,
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and so I knew that
if the speech one wasn't working,
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I was trying to get that...
get the music one.
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♪ Sleep in heavenly peace... ♪
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And it worked.
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Ryder's first words were songs.
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And he still, to this day,
headphones on, loses himself to music.
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He's... Like I said, he's magic.
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Being a single mom, when he was born,
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the first thing I did was get
a large, large life insurance policy.
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And whoever had control of Ryder
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would get the life insurance policy
for his care.
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Janie was listed
as the guardian of Ryder in my will.
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I trusted her 100%.
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Which I paid for later.
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After I had my son,
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I herniated a disc once again
from having the delivery.
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I was in a lot of pain,
but I thought, "You'll get better."
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People herniate their discs,
and it doesn't always turn into surgery.
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So I let it go for a really long time
because I just was convinced
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that I could live life
as normally as I could.
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Eventually, I had to do an MRI.
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The doctor said,
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"You need surgery or else
you're gonna have permanent disability."
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When I had
had the surgery in 2015,
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{\an8}Janie and I, at this point,
had been friends for over 20 years.
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When I would first
get home from the surgery,
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I had to take pain medication to control
a ridiculous amount of physical pain.
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Most of the time, I would just lay in bed.
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Janie would watch this happen
and feel bad for me.
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And so she started taking care of Ryder.
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Because of Rachel's back injury,
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she wasn't really able
to pick him up and care for him.
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That's where Janie came in
as being a second mother, if you will.
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She was able to do the lifting.
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She was able to put him in carriers
and take him to the car, back and forth.
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That's something that Rachel
wasn't able to do at the time,
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but felt grateful
that Janie was there to do it.
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I wasn't around them a lot
because I lived five hours away from her.
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So the family was very happy
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that Rachel had a friend,
somebody to help her.
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And we were glad that Janie
was as dedicated to Ryder as she was.
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Janie worked at a training center
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that was focused
on helping Indigenous people
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have opportunities in life.
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She had a pretty flexible job,
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and at this point,
I was on medical disability.
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And so she, uh,
got us enrolled in a program
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that paid Janie
to basically help me with Ryder.
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What they call respite.
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And so Janie started
to do very well financially.
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It became
a significant part of her income.
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Eventually, her main focus
became taking care of Ryder.
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There were times when
there'd be events at his school
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that I was well enough to go to,
and it was like,
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we would walk in,
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{\an8}and she's talking to the other parents
that I don't even know.
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She's talking to the principal.
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She was like the mayor of the school.
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She started letting people believe
that she was Ryder's parent.
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It's not true.
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You know, she's not his mother,
and she's not a parent of his.
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It was after that that she started
wanting to take Ryder to work with her.
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We kind of started fighting
over who would have Ryder.
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You know, it's not who has to have him.
It's who gets him.
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I did stand up to her and said,
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"Okay, it's my child,
and this is the final answer."
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She didn't like me doing that,
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but she didn't have a choice.
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Between 2015 and 2018,
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I had seven back surgeries.
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Around that time,
I started falling all the time.
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And I hurt my neck.
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So I underwent surgery
to fix the herniations in my neck.
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Because I wanted to be responsible,
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any time I was on pain medication,
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especially after surgery
where I was on the higher dosages,
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I made sure that Janie administered it,
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and then kept a running log
so that I didn't duplicate on accident.
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Not long after the surgery,
Janie had taken Ryder to her office.
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It was a Saturday.
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And I went and checked the mail that day.
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I had a letter that was addressed to me,
and it was from the court
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informing me that Ryder had been
assigned a guardian ad litem
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for a custody case.
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Janie was worried about Ryder's safety
with me in the home.
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So I called her, and she answered,
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perky and happy.
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"Hello!" You know, "Hey!"
Or, "Oh you're up!" You know?
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And I said,
"Are you suing me for custody of Ryder?"
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And then just quietly, she said, "Yes."
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And then she hung up on me.
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{\an8}And so I called 911,
and I said to them,
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"My best friend/roomie has my child,
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and she won't return my child."
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But they called her...
And so they called me back and said,
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"So you haven't been served yet,
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but she's filed
a protective order against you."
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And I... and I'm looking at, like,
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I can barely walk.
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I have surgical stitches in me.
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I am as weak as a kitten.
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I'm like, "Protecting against what?"
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And he said, "Well, it's her house,
so you have to leave."
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"But she keeps your son."
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And I'm like, "What?"
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I thought I had lost my child.
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And...
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The worst... worst day of my life,
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and probably will always be
the worst day of my life.
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When Janie tried to get custody of Ryder,
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that completely destroyed Rachel.
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I mean, he is her whole life.
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I mean, she's a good mother,
and it was just devastating.
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And that was the first time in his life
that she had ever been away from him.
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Who does that?
Who tries to take someone's child?
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Any mother knows
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that's the worst thing
you could do to another woman.
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I left the home.
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I hadn't driven in years. I was shaky.
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And I went to a hotel
that my dad helped, um, me get.
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Child Protective Services came out.
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They met with her first.
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She told them that I was a drug addict,
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that I had become addicted
to my pain medicine,
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and that I wasn't properly
taking care of my child,
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and that Janie had to step in and do it.
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And then when they came and talked to me,
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it was like, within three minutes,
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they knew she'd been lying
about everything.
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He was like, "Not only did she not say
you had this surgery,
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she didn't say you had any."
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"She made it sound like
you were just addicted to opiates."
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{\an8}They ended up giving Ryder
back to me ten days later,
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{\an8}based on there was no standing
for him to not be with me.
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At this point, my mom had passed away,
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and my dad had moved
across the country to South Carolina.
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So Ryder and I
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didn't have anywhere to live.
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And so we moved into a family shelter.
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While I appreciated everything
the shelter did for us,
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and they do phenomenal work,
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it was a challenging place
for Ryder to be,
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um, mainly due to his autism.
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He struggled, he regressed,
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and he certainly wasn't happy.
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I spent six weeks at the shelter.
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And then just out of the blue,
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Janie called and asked me
if she could see Ryder.
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Ryder was still asking
to go home every day, all day.
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I thought maybe he just missed her
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because she was
an important part of his life.
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So I allowed her to see him at a park.
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Janie apologized.
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She started talking about
how she was in a dark place.
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And she again thought
that I was going to leave her.
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And...
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it... it felt like
the Janie that I had known.
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She didn't seem dark and twisty anymore.
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You know, she was just jovial and happy,
and... and he was happy to see her.
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She said everything was gonna be okay.
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And she asked me to come back.
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And I said,
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"Yes."
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Ryder wanted to go home.
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I wanted to go home.
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I knew that I was gonna need
another surgery,
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and I didn't have anyone
to help me with Ryder.
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So I didn't really have an option.
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I needed her.
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I was concerned
about her moving back in with Janie,
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{\an8}just because I thought if she could do...
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{\an8}If she could be that cruel
and do that to her,
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you know, what else is she capable of?
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But, you know,
I just... I just stayed out of it.
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It wasn't my call to make, you know?
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When I initially moved back home...
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...Ryder was doing phenomenally.
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He immediately began to improve,
making strides.
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And she was taking
really good care of him.
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I waited as long as I could
after getting back home to have surgery
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because I wanted to make sure
that things were gonna be stable
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before I put myself in a position where I...
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couldn't help myself at all.
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When I had the surgery in April of 2019,
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everything went fairly, um, routine.
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Janie graciously would offer to help me.
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Any of the surgical incisions that I had
that were located in a part of my body
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that was either on the back of my body
or I couldn't reach,
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Janie would have the task
of cleaning them,
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putting any ointments on them,
and bandaging them back up.
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A few weeks after surgery,
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I started getting like pain
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in the incision.
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And...
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a couple of times, there were just
things where she would rub it,
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and I would say, "Why are you rubbing it?"
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And she was like, "I'm just seeing, like..."
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"Trying to just see if..."
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Weird stuff that kinda didn't make sense.
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But it never occurred to me to think
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that there was something
malicious or nefarious about it.
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And then it started to hurt really badly.
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I would go to her and say,
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"Can you look at it and tell me
if I need to go have it looked at?"
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And she would say,
"Looks normal. Looks fine."
368
00:24:35,307 --> 00:24:37,684
I started
not being able to breathe
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because the swelling in my neck
was pushing against my trachea.
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I insisted that I was gonna go
to the InstaCare.
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00:24:46,902 --> 00:24:52,657
I went, and I was sitting there,
and the doctor was standing behind me.
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He took the bandage off,
and I felt him almost jump back.
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And I said to him, "What's wrong?"
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He said, "Massive infection."
375
00:25:08,965 --> 00:25:13,261
The way he described it
was blue cheese coming out of my wounds.
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00:25:14,554 --> 00:25:16,515
He said, "I'm gonna call an ambulance
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because you have to go
to the ER right now."
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00:25:22,103 --> 00:25:26,775
They had to go in and basically
reopen everything and get the infection.
379
00:25:28,318 --> 00:25:30,946
They cultured it,
and it came back as MRSA.
380
00:25:32,531 --> 00:25:33,990
I was an ER nurse,
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and MRSA is a bacteria
that is resistant to antibiotics.
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So, a bacteria like that,
it can definitely kill you.
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00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,712
Uh, you know, it's almost flesh-eating.
384
00:25:49,256 --> 00:25:53,093
MRSA is
a very serious staph infection
385
00:25:53,176 --> 00:25:57,514
that, um, oftentimes
is contracted in hospitals.
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00:25:57,597 --> 00:26:01,101
So the assumption
is that I got it in the hospital,
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00:26:01,184 --> 00:26:03,144
because where else would I have gotten it?
388
00:26:03,770 --> 00:26:06,690
And so they started me on the vancomycin.
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00:26:07,357 --> 00:26:09,568
Vancomycin's an antibiotic
that can treat it.
390
00:26:10,151 --> 00:26:14,739
But the vancomycin started
to attack my white blood cells,
391
00:26:14,823 --> 00:26:16,324
and I got very ill.
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00:26:18,702 --> 00:26:22,831
I could feel the life,
like, draining out of me.
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00:26:24,165 --> 00:26:27,669
It was during this time that I,
to the core of me,
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knew I was going to die.
395
00:26:30,714 --> 00:26:32,841
The issue
with bacterial infections
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when people
are in a compromised health state
397
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is if they progress
and get into your blood,
398
00:26:39,014 --> 00:26:42,517
that's when someone can become
septic and end up in the ICU.
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00:26:42,601 --> 00:26:44,102
And that becomes dire.
400
00:26:44,185 --> 00:26:48,440
And that was the path
that Rachel was headed down.
401
00:26:50,609 --> 00:26:55,238
But then I started to seem
like I was getting a little bit better.
402
00:26:56,031 --> 00:26:58,992
And so I let Janie know that,
403
00:27:00,452 --> 00:27:01,828
"Probably gonna live!"
404
00:27:06,541 --> 00:27:10,128
After that,
when I was recovering,
405
00:27:10,211 --> 00:27:12,213
Janie and I would watch TV.
406
00:27:14,090 --> 00:27:17,385
I liked true crime,
and she liked it as well.
407
00:27:18,345 --> 00:27:21,514
And we were watching
one of the true crimes,
408
00:27:21,598 --> 00:27:25,769
and it was a nurse
that murdered her husband
409
00:27:25,852 --> 00:27:27,270
with succinylcholine.
410
00:27:28,813 --> 00:27:30,815
And I said, "Wow, she's a nurse."
411
00:27:30,899 --> 00:27:32,734
"That is really stupid
for her to do something
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that's gonna show up in an autopsy."
413
00:27:34,486 --> 00:27:37,197
And Janie kind of did the,
"What do you mean?"
414
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:42,702
And I said, "Knowing that it could be
considered a suspicious death."
415
00:27:42,786 --> 00:27:44,704
I said, "You'd do something like insulin
416
00:27:44,788 --> 00:27:47,207
because that's naturally occurring
in the body."
417
00:27:47,874 --> 00:27:50,168
And she's like, "Oh, interesting."
418
00:27:52,712 --> 00:27:55,465
It was such a conversation
that we'd had so many times
419
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with different discussions
about true crime
420
00:27:57,926 --> 00:27:59,678
that it didn't stick out in my mind.
421
00:28:00,887 --> 00:28:05,266
But now I can see
that it was me planning my own murder.
422
00:28:14,109 --> 00:28:16,945
June 9th, 2019.
423
00:28:17,028 --> 00:28:21,783
I remember Janie had put me into my bed
424
00:28:21,866 --> 00:28:24,494
and given me my medication.
425
00:28:26,204 --> 00:28:30,166
And the next thing I know,
I wake up in the hospital.
426
00:28:30,250 --> 00:28:37,048
And I was told that my blood sugar
had dropped to 13.
427
00:28:38,174 --> 00:28:43,388
Um, since I'm not diabetic
nor have any diabetic issues,
428
00:28:43,471 --> 00:28:47,308
um, this was shocking to everyone,
including myself.
429
00:28:48,935 --> 00:28:53,982
For the average person,
a blood sugar would be 80 to 110.
430
00:28:54,774 --> 00:28:56,568
I've worked in medicine for 25 years,
431
00:28:56,651 --> 00:28:59,738
and I never saw anybody
with a blood sugar like that.
432
00:29:00,947 --> 00:29:03,575
All of a sudden,
Janie calls me up and says,
433
00:29:03,658 --> 00:29:05,201
"You better come to the hospital."
434
00:29:05,285 --> 00:29:08,121
"Something's wrong with Rachel,
and she might not make it."
435
00:29:09,873 --> 00:29:14,252
So I raced down there,
and Janie met me in the lobby.
436
00:29:14,335 --> 00:29:17,672
And I'm a nurse, so, you know,
I was "Twenty Questioning" her.
437
00:29:19,674 --> 00:29:22,719
"When had she eaten?"
You know, "What medicines is she on?"
438
00:29:23,553 --> 00:29:25,263
"Is there any insulin anywhere?"
439
00:29:25,346 --> 00:29:27,265
"Is there any needles anywhere?"
440
00:29:28,266 --> 00:29:31,811
I started crying,
and, you know, I was just upset,
441
00:29:31,895 --> 00:29:36,900
and Janie just sat there
with no expression on her face.
442
00:29:36,983 --> 00:29:40,111
Just staring at me
kind of like not even blinking.
443
00:29:41,362 --> 00:29:44,574
She didn't ask me anything.
She didn't try to comfort me.
444
00:29:45,074 --> 00:29:48,244
You know, she just sat there
with no emotion,
445
00:29:48,328 --> 00:29:50,330
uh, heartless.
446
00:29:51,456 --> 00:29:53,333
I started to suspect
447
00:29:53,416 --> 00:29:55,794
that something was going on with Janie.
448
00:29:57,879 --> 00:30:00,715
My sister said to me
a little bit later,
449
00:30:00,799 --> 00:30:06,221
"Janie seemed almost mad
that you survived."
450
00:30:07,722 --> 00:30:11,059
"That's just grief, you know,
she's socially awkward."
451
00:30:11,142 --> 00:30:13,311
"It's strange. That's just grief."
452
00:30:14,562 --> 00:30:17,816
I think there were
a lot of red flags that I missed.
453
00:30:19,818 --> 00:30:21,903
They watched me for 48 hours.
454
00:30:21,986 --> 00:30:24,531
My blood sugar was fine. I was fine.
455
00:30:25,198 --> 00:30:27,075
So they thought a fluke had happened.
456
00:30:27,158 --> 00:30:29,661
I'd gotten sick or something,
and something had caused it.
457
00:30:33,081 --> 00:30:38,753
I went home on a Sunday, and Tuesday, I...
458
00:30:40,755 --> 00:30:42,715
woke up in the hospital.
459
00:30:45,969 --> 00:30:47,512
It happened again.
460
00:30:48,513 --> 00:30:50,849
This time, they kept me for eight days.
461
00:30:50,932 --> 00:30:54,018
They were calling endocrinologists
all over the state
462
00:30:54,102 --> 00:30:57,230
because there was no reason
other than given insulin
463
00:30:57,313 --> 00:30:59,732
that this should happen naturally.
There was just none.
464
00:31:01,526 --> 00:31:03,736
I was afraid of losing a child.
465
00:31:04,237 --> 00:31:06,948
I was afraid that Rachel
was not going to pull through.
466
00:31:07,824 --> 00:31:10,118
It... it scared the daylights out of me.
467
00:31:12,787 --> 00:31:15,498
In September of 2019,
468
00:31:15,582 --> 00:31:18,251
I had another insulin event.
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00:31:18,793 --> 00:31:21,838
I awoke being told that once again,
470
00:31:21,921 --> 00:31:24,799
my insulin had fallen to be 13.
471
00:31:25,842 --> 00:31:31,055
Honestly, as this progressed,
the repeated hospitalizations,
472
00:31:31,139 --> 00:31:35,685
the drama,
and getting all of the attention...
473
00:31:36,519 --> 00:31:38,521
At one point,
she even mentioned on Facebook
474
00:31:38,605 --> 00:31:40,481
that she was afraid that she would die.
475
00:31:41,858 --> 00:31:45,069
Quite frankly,
it was at this point that I asked her,
476
00:31:45,153 --> 00:31:46,988
"Are you doing this to yourself?"
477
00:31:48,907 --> 00:31:52,201
And she swore up and down
that was not the case.
478
00:31:53,536 --> 00:31:56,372
The physicians did all of the scans,
479
00:31:56,456 --> 00:31:58,833
all of the labs that would be necessary.
480
00:31:59,584 --> 00:32:03,838
And really the go-to there is that
she must have received some insulin.
481
00:32:04,672 --> 00:32:08,259
This is surreptitious insulin
until proven otherwise.
482
00:32:11,220 --> 00:32:18,102
I went home, and I would literally scoop
spoonfuls of sugar into my mouth
483
00:32:18,186 --> 00:32:20,438
before I went to bed every night,
484
00:32:20,521 --> 00:32:25,443
just so my blood sugar wouldn't plummet
so that I could wake up.
485
00:32:28,905 --> 00:32:32,408
Rachel would have
repeated admissions to the hospital.
486
00:32:33,201 --> 00:32:36,120
Repeated calls for paramedics
to come and collect her.
487
00:32:36,204 --> 00:32:40,833
She would get well in the hospital,
be released, go back home,
488
00:32:40,917 --> 00:32:43,044
start thriving again,
489
00:32:43,127 --> 00:32:45,838
and then fall right back off
that health cliff.
490
00:32:46,464 --> 00:32:48,758
And it was just bizarre.
491
00:32:48,841 --> 00:32:50,927
Nothing was adding up.
492
00:32:51,010 --> 00:32:54,514
And she felt she would die.
493
00:32:54,597 --> 00:32:57,517
She felt that she would not be there
to raise Ryder.
494
00:32:58,101 --> 00:33:00,603
And that concerned her
more than anything else.
495
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,695
My name is Steve Cadiz.
I'm a special agent with the FBI.
496
00:33:09,278 --> 00:33:12,198
I am a coordinator for the weapons
of mass destruction program
497
00:33:12,281 --> 00:33:13,658
here in Salt Lake City.
498
00:33:14,867 --> 00:33:19,038
{\an8}The WMD program in the FBI
covers chemical, biological,
499
00:33:19,122 --> 00:33:22,542
{\an8}radiological, nuclear, and explosive
weapons of mass destruction.
500
00:33:24,168 --> 00:33:27,922
{\an8}It was a normal day in the office,
and a phone call came in
501
00:33:28,006 --> 00:33:32,593
asking us to conduct
an investigation on a person
502
00:33:32,677 --> 00:33:37,640
attempting to purchase VRSA
on the dark web.
503
00:33:39,100 --> 00:33:41,686
VRSA is a bacteria.
504
00:33:41,769 --> 00:33:43,479
It's a staph infection.
505
00:33:43,563 --> 00:33:46,774
It's very resistant to commonly-used
powerful antibiotics.
506
00:33:49,402 --> 00:33:51,779
When you go
to a dark net marketplace,
507
00:33:51,863 --> 00:33:55,700
{\an8}you're just a couple clicks away
from buying hard drugs, like fentanyl.
508
00:33:56,284 --> 00:33:57,994
You can buy weapons.
509
00:33:58,077 --> 00:34:00,496
You can buy human beings on the dark web.
510
00:34:00,580 --> 00:34:02,081
Child pornography.
511
00:34:02,165 --> 00:34:04,208
You're a click away from watching that,
512
00:34:04,292 --> 00:34:06,878
just like you're a click away
from watching videos
513
00:34:06,961 --> 00:34:08,588
of people being murdered.
514
00:34:08,671 --> 00:34:10,131
It's an evil place.
515
00:34:12,508 --> 00:34:16,596
The FBI hosts a Joint Terrorism Task Force
here in Salt Lake City,
516
00:34:17,346 --> 00:34:23,352
and they told me that they had received
a tip from an undercover FBI agent
517
00:34:23,436 --> 00:34:25,313
who was working on the dark web
518
00:34:25,396 --> 00:34:29,108
that a person had made an order
519
00:34:29,192 --> 00:34:33,237
for vancomycin-resistant
staphylococcus aureus,
520
00:34:33,321 --> 00:34:34,781
commonly known as VRSA.
521
00:34:37,366 --> 00:34:39,702
The state criminal statutes
in Utah
522
00:34:39,786 --> 00:34:41,621
specifically say biological agents
523
00:34:41,704 --> 00:34:44,540
that are entering its borders
through the mail
524
00:34:44,624 --> 00:34:46,542
are considered
weapons of mass destruction.
525
00:34:47,126 --> 00:34:49,837
Biological weapons
are a whole different animal
526
00:34:49,921 --> 00:34:53,257
because they can grow
and multiply and propagate.
527
00:34:54,342 --> 00:34:57,512
Many of us realized for the first time
during the pandemic
528
00:34:58,012 --> 00:35:01,390
just how dangerous
a disease can be as a weapon.
529
00:35:03,226 --> 00:35:05,066
During the course
of the investigation,
530
00:35:05,103 --> 00:35:08,523
we were able to find out that the person
attempting to buy that VRSA
531
00:35:09,857 --> 00:35:11,275
was Janie Lynn Ridd.
532
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:20,201
The immediate danger was,
how will this person use this VRSA?
533
00:35:20,785 --> 00:35:22,370
Is it on a person?
534
00:35:22,453 --> 00:35:25,206
Is it just a single person?
Is it a group of people?
535
00:35:25,289 --> 00:35:29,627
Is it going to be something
that will be cultured and grown,
536
00:35:29,710 --> 00:35:31,838
to then be introduced to the community?
537
00:35:33,923 --> 00:35:36,968
The worry, of course,
is that it's going to be used widespread.
538
00:35:37,051 --> 00:35:38,427
So we had a suspect,
539
00:35:39,095 --> 00:35:41,889
and we needed to find out
as much as we could about her.
540
00:35:45,434 --> 00:35:48,271
I've been with the State Bureau
of Investigation for eight years,
541
00:35:48,354 --> 00:35:53,818
but I'm also assigned full-time to the FBI
as part of the Joint Terrorism Task Force.
542
00:35:54,819 --> 00:35:56,195
{\an8}And especially with this case,
543
00:35:56,279 --> 00:35:58,823
{\an8}it was one where
with this type of bacteria,
544
00:35:58,906 --> 00:36:01,742
and not knowing
this person's intent in purchasing it,
545
00:36:01,826 --> 00:36:04,620
we really had to act fast.
546
00:36:05,997 --> 00:36:09,167
During the investigation,
we learned that back in 2018,
547
00:36:09,250 --> 00:36:11,043
there were some court records there
548
00:36:11,127 --> 00:36:13,629
that showed that there was some type
of custody dispute,
549
00:36:13,713 --> 00:36:17,717
where Janie was attempting
to gain custody of Rachel's child.
550
00:36:18,885 --> 00:36:23,264
And that she also
was the main caregiver for Rachel
551
00:36:23,347 --> 00:36:28,019
because Rachel wasn't able to take care
of herself because of her health issues.
552
00:36:29,312 --> 00:36:31,480
And now I start to think
as an investigator,
553
00:36:31,564 --> 00:36:33,149
"Let's start working on the assumption
554
00:36:33,232 --> 00:36:36,194
that she is now going to try
and hurt Rachel."
555
00:36:37,236 --> 00:36:39,614
And we found that in a healthy person,
556
00:36:39,697 --> 00:36:41,741
you can use antibiotics
to get rid of VRSA.
557
00:36:41,824 --> 00:36:46,162
But in a person that was already sick
or immunocompromised,
558
00:36:46,245 --> 00:36:47,914
it could, uh, prove fatal.
559
00:36:48,998 --> 00:36:53,336
So Janie had motive and opportunity
to use the VRSA against Rachel
560
00:36:53,419 --> 00:36:56,505
so that she could get custody of the son.
561
00:36:57,006 --> 00:36:59,800
I think that Rachel was in grave danger.
562
00:37:03,596 --> 00:37:06,432
In December of 2019,
563
00:37:06,515 --> 00:37:11,229
Janie had started to seem darker to me.
564
00:37:15,983 --> 00:37:17,860
There was just
something about her
565
00:37:17,944 --> 00:37:19,946
that was different than I'd ever seen.
566
00:37:22,031 --> 00:37:23,908
She just seemed detached.
567
00:37:23,991 --> 00:37:28,746
And I had noticed
that she was leaving Ryder alone
568
00:37:28,829 --> 00:37:31,249
in situations that could have
become dangerous.
569
00:37:33,376 --> 00:37:38,005
Janie was still listed
as the guardian of Ryder in my will.
570
00:37:40,841 --> 00:37:44,929
I let Janie know
that I was gonna change my will,
571
00:37:45,554 --> 00:37:47,640
and make my father the beneficiary.
572
00:37:49,475 --> 00:37:52,603
Rachel asked me
if something happened to her,
573
00:37:52,687 --> 00:37:54,689
would I take custody of Ryder?
574
00:37:54,772 --> 00:38:00,569
And of course, I said, "I would,
but at my age, I'm not able to do a lot."
575
00:38:01,195 --> 00:38:05,741
"And so I would have to find somebody
that could take care of him."
576
00:38:05,825 --> 00:38:07,285
And she says,
577
00:38:07,368 --> 00:38:10,621
"I know you would find somebody
that would be like Mom."
578
00:38:14,625 --> 00:38:16,585
A short time
after that conversation,
579
00:38:16,669 --> 00:38:19,505
I mentioned to Janie
that maybe it would be time
580
00:38:19,588 --> 00:38:22,091
for me to move out, even short-term,
581
00:38:22,174 --> 00:38:26,095
get my own place for a little while,
and that we could work on our friendship.
582
00:38:26,178 --> 00:38:29,015
But I just thought we needed
some space between us.
583
00:38:30,808 --> 00:38:34,395
And she asked me
to stay till December 25th.
584
00:38:39,567 --> 00:38:44,947
We made plans to deliver
fake VRSA to the post office box,
585
00:38:45,031 --> 00:38:47,575
and then send a tracking receipt to Janie
586
00:38:47,658 --> 00:38:50,286
so she would know her package had arrived.
587
00:38:51,078 --> 00:38:52,747
We knew we needed to move quickly
588
00:38:52,830 --> 00:38:55,041
because Janie asked if she could pay extra
589
00:38:55,124 --> 00:38:58,044
to have it expedited
and shipped to her overnight.
590
00:39:00,296 --> 00:39:02,798
Once the package
had been delivered to the UPS Store,
591
00:39:02,882 --> 00:39:05,009
the investigative team
was sitting in the car
592
00:39:05,092 --> 00:39:07,094
waiting on this package to be picked up.
593
00:39:07,178 --> 00:39:09,680
And we were watching that door like hawks.
594
00:39:12,933 --> 00:39:14,293
On our second day of surveillance,
595
00:39:14,352 --> 00:39:18,439
someone matching Janie Ridd's description
arrives at the UPS Store
596
00:39:18,522 --> 00:39:20,024
and walks into the store.
597
00:39:22,568 --> 00:39:26,697
After a few minutes,
Janie Ridd walks out with the package
598
00:39:26,781 --> 00:39:30,659
that we had put the faux VRSA inside,
and immediately walks to her vehicle.
599
00:39:36,082 --> 00:39:39,043
And we followed her
to her workplace in Salt Lake City Valley.
600
00:39:41,170 --> 00:39:44,048
We go up to her office,
and we told her
601
00:39:44,131 --> 00:39:46,258
we'd like a few moments of her time
to speak with her.
602
00:39:49,220 --> 00:39:50,596
In the beginning, I asked her,
603
00:39:50,679 --> 00:39:54,475
"Did you pick up a package
from the UPS Store earlier today?"
604
00:39:55,226 --> 00:39:57,186
I wanted to see if she would lie to me.
605
00:39:57,269 --> 00:40:00,231
And she took that opportunity to lie.
606
00:40:16,622 --> 00:40:19,458
{\an8}I stop her and I say,
"I don't believe that this is coffee."
607
00:40:19,542 --> 00:40:22,378
"I'm gonna give you another opportunity
to tell me the truth."
608
00:40:22,461 --> 00:40:25,256
Miss Ridd takes a breath,
looks me straight in the eyes,
609
00:40:25,339 --> 00:40:27,383
and tells me another lie.
610
00:40:45,693 --> 00:40:47,236
I said, "Let's just start fresh."
611
00:40:47,319 --> 00:40:49,879
"I believe it's a biological,
but I don't believe it's for beer."
612
00:41:04,545 --> 00:41:08,507
She finally said that she was attempting
to purchase this bacteria,
613
00:41:08,591 --> 00:41:09,633
this form of staph,
614
00:41:09,717 --> 00:41:16,015
because she wanted to do some
research on it to help her friend Rachel.
615
00:41:24,064 --> 00:41:25,191
Ding!
616
00:41:25,274 --> 00:41:29,737
She finally admitted
to trying to purchase this bacteria.
617
00:41:29,820 --> 00:41:32,072
And we had enough probable cause
618
00:41:32,156 --> 00:41:38,037
to arrest her for the attempt to possess
a weapon of mass destruction.
619
00:42:09,485 --> 00:42:12,071
And from there, that is when
I took over the interview,
620
00:42:12,154 --> 00:42:16,033
and then told Janie
that she was now under arrest.
621
00:42:27,670 --> 00:42:30,047
{\an8}It was a fairly normal Tuesday.
622
00:42:30,756 --> 00:42:35,928
I was laying in bed kind of half asleep
and dizzy and nauseous,
623
00:42:36,470 --> 00:42:38,180
and a knock came at the door.
624
00:42:39,765 --> 00:42:44,019
And I saw three official-looking people
standing at my door.
625
00:42:44,895 --> 00:42:46,146
Hi.
626
00:42:46,230 --> 00:42:47,398
Hi.
627
00:42:58,576 --> 00:43:04,873
They started to ask me odd questions,
like where I had packages delivered to.
628
00:43:04,957 --> 00:43:09,211
And questions that really made zero sense.
629
00:43:09,295 --> 00:43:11,672
Janie doesn't do science experiments.
630
00:43:11,755 --> 00:43:14,800
She doesn't teach science.
She doesn't make beer.
631
00:43:14,883 --> 00:43:17,595
And I had no idea
what they were talking about.
632
00:43:43,329 --> 00:43:44,913
Yeah, yeah.
633
00:43:46,790 --> 00:43:52,755
I could tell that they were trying
not to tell me why they were there yet.
634
00:44:06,143 --> 00:44:08,228
We're trying to take
the soft-hand approach,
635
00:44:08,312 --> 00:44:11,649
because we're gonna be telling her
that we believe that your roommate
636
00:44:11,732 --> 00:44:16,654
purchased this VRSA online
for the intent purpose of killing you.
637
00:45:18,590 --> 00:45:20,801
They looked at each other,
638
00:45:20,884 --> 00:45:22,845
and then they looked at me,
639
00:45:23,470 --> 00:45:25,472
and all the questions stopped.
640
00:45:25,556 --> 00:45:27,182
And they kind of perked up.
641
00:45:28,684 --> 00:45:31,061
Rachel explained
that she had episodes
642
00:45:31,145 --> 00:45:34,606
where her glucose levels
had dropped so significantly,
643
00:45:34,690 --> 00:45:36,410
to the point
they thought she was gonna die.
644
00:45:36,942 --> 00:45:41,196
{\an8}And what was running through my mind
were the dark web purchases by Janie.
645
00:45:41,864 --> 00:45:46,285
{\an8}Sedatives such as ketamine, Xanax,
and insulin injector pens.
646
00:45:46,368 --> 00:45:48,495
Because in a healthy individual,
647
00:45:48,579 --> 00:45:50,459
if you are stabbed
with an insulin injector pen,
648
00:45:50,497 --> 00:45:53,125
your glucose levels will drop
almost to single digits.
649
00:45:55,919 --> 00:46:00,758
Eventually, we found
an expended insulin injector pen,
650
00:46:00,841 --> 00:46:05,095
and Rachel Booth's DNA
was inside of the injector pen,
651
00:46:05,179 --> 00:46:06,597
and it had been used on her.
652
00:46:07,931 --> 00:46:10,768
So you put those things together,
and it painted a pretty clear picture
653
00:46:10,851 --> 00:46:15,105
that Janie would use
an added sedative such as ketamine
654
00:46:15,856 --> 00:46:17,983
to incapacitate Rachel
and put her in a state
655
00:46:18,066 --> 00:46:21,820
where she wouldn't feel Janie
injecting her with MRSA
656
00:46:22,321 --> 00:46:24,531
or with the insulin injector pen.
657
00:46:25,574 --> 00:46:27,534
From reading the medical records,
658
00:46:27,618 --> 00:46:31,538
I think that Janie
tried to kill Rachel at least five times
659
00:46:31,622 --> 00:46:33,332
in the course of a year.
660
00:46:37,252 --> 00:46:41,799
When I was told by the FBI agents
that she had purchased the insulin,
661
00:46:41,882 --> 00:46:44,259
it almost added insult to injury.
662
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,387
Not only did she try to murder me,
663
00:46:47,471 --> 00:46:52,142
but I... I felt like she was taking joy
in having me plan my own murder,
664
00:46:52,226 --> 00:46:55,437
or at least give her instructions
on how to murder me.
665
00:46:58,315 --> 00:47:01,819
{\an8}My reaction
when it was all spelled out, frankly,
666
00:47:01,902 --> 00:47:04,613
{\an8}was, "Holy shit."
667
00:47:06,240 --> 00:47:11,203
There are no words
for how out there this is.
668
00:47:11,286 --> 00:47:15,791
All of this was due to the disgusting
669
00:47:15,874 --> 00:47:18,460
and surreptitious actions
670
00:47:18,544 --> 00:47:21,296
of another who is holding her captive,
671
00:47:22,506 --> 00:47:25,801
experimenting with her friend's body...
672
00:47:27,803 --> 00:47:30,472
in an effort to kill her
and take her child.
673
00:47:33,475 --> 00:47:34,755
What would've happened
674
00:47:34,810 --> 00:47:37,145
if Janie could have
carried out her threat?
675
00:47:38,146 --> 00:47:40,148
Rachel would have died in the hospital.
676
00:47:40,232 --> 00:47:42,359
It would have been considered
an attended death.
677
00:47:42,860 --> 00:47:45,821
No autopsy. No investigation.
678
00:47:46,697 --> 00:47:49,449
And Janie makes off with Rachel's child
679
00:47:50,075 --> 00:47:52,953
and a half million dollars
in life insurance payout.
680
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:14,933
I was shocked.
681
00:48:15,017 --> 00:48:20,063
We had no idea that she could be
so violent or twisted like that.
682
00:48:20,647 --> 00:48:21,857
We knew she loved Ryder,
683
00:48:21,940 --> 00:48:23,400
and we knew she wanted him,
684
00:48:23,483 --> 00:48:25,694
but never in a million years
685
00:48:25,777 --> 00:48:27,613
would we have guessed
686
00:48:27,696 --> 00:48:28,989
that she had that in her
687
00:48:29,072 --> 00:48:30,782
to try to get rid of Rachel.
688
00:48:32,367 --> 00:48:34,202
When I saw Janie in court,
689
00:48:34,286 --> 00:48:37,581
she didn't seem, like, familiar to me.
690
00:48:38,248 --> 00:48:41,126
It wasn't that she looked
dramatically different.
691
00:48:41,209 --> 00:48:45,130
She just... Something felt broken.
692
00:48:46,423 --> 00:48:49,051
And I just wonder, did I miss it?
693
00:48:50,135 --> 00:48:51,845
If I was a better friend,
694
00:48:52,512 --> 00:48:55,098
if I could have helped her...
695
00:48:57,392 --> 00:48:59,770
would she have not gotten to this point?
696
00:49:02,064 --> 00:49:05,525
The judge ordered her to serve
between one and twenty years.
697
00:49:06,693 --> 00:49:09,029
And that's what
she was sent to prison to serve.
698
00:49:16,662 --> 00:49:18,622
- You think that's funny?
- Yes.
699
00:49:18,705 --> 00:49:23,502
The unexplained illnesses have stopped
since the day she was arrested.
700
00:49:26,171 --> 00:49:30,634
Still have the spinal issues, of course,
and I still live in chronic pain,
701
00:49:31,385 --> 00:49:35,347
but I'm able to do activities.
702
00:49:35,430 --> 00:49:36,556
I feel good.
703
00:49:37,265 --> 00:49:41,019
And Ryder is doing phenomenally.
704
00:49:41,770 --> 00:49:43,021
- Car.
- Car.
705
00:49:44,481 --> 00:49:46,233
She didn't ruin my life.
706
00:49:46,858 --> 00:49:48,193
She ruined hers.
707
00:49:50,654 --> 00:49:51,822
And that's sad.
708
00:49:52,531 --> 00:49:53,699
That's very sad.
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