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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:31,971 --> 00:00:33,706 ♪ 2 00:01:06,171 --> 00:01:10,009 I went with no plan, no agent, very little money. 3 00:01:12,277 --> 00:01:17,717 I went on a hope and a dream, um, from small‐town Quebec, 4 00:01:17,717 --> 00:01:19,785 to, um, to Hollywood. 5 00:01:19,785 --> 00:01:21,754 ♪ 6 00:01:24,356 --> 00:01:26,759 When you're a young actor, you hear stories all the time 7 00:01:26,759 --> 00:01:29,795 about people just sort of putting it all on the line 8 00:01:29,795 --> 00:01:33,265 and taking the big chance and going out to Hollywood 9 00:01:33,265 --> 00:01:34,834 and, and then it happening. 10 00:01:41,774 --> 00:01:44,911 Oh my God, how many people know the story of Lana Turner 11 00:01:44,911 --> 00:01:46,345 working in a drugstore, 12 00:01:46,345 --> 00:01:48,581 or Ava Gardner coming up from the South, 13 00:01:48,581 --> 00:01:53,419 you know, being spotted and suddenly they're stars? 14 00:01:56,923 --> 00:02:00,927 If you're Harvey and you're a fat kid from Queens, 15 00:02:00,927 --> 00:02:03,262 suddenly with power, 16 00:02:03,262 --> 00:02:06,899 I don't have to imagine looking up at Lana Turner and Ava Gardner. 17 00:02:07,633 --> 00:02:10,603 Maybe I could... have sex with them. 18 00:02:13,906 --> 00:02:19,244 He was able to use his power to exploit women's dreams, 19 00:02:20,512 --> 00:02:21,680 and that's a powerful thing. 20 00:02:24,383 --> 00:02:27,152 When this powerhouse came into my life, 21 00:02:27,152 --> 00:02:30,222 I believed that I was seeing the star maker. 22 00:02:31,824 --> 00:02:35,561 I thought, maybe this is it, maybe this is my moment, 23 00:02:35,561 --> 00:02:36,829 maybe this is my "in." 24 00:02:36,829 --> 00:02:38,831 ♪ 25 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:46,171 You hear that this happens, right? So I thought it was happening for me. 26 00:02:54,046 --> 00:02:57,016 ♪ 27 00:03:09,962 --> 00:03:11,964 ♪ 28 00:03:32,284 --> 00:03:33,652 The Hollywood powerhouse 29 00:03:33,652 --> 00:03:35,320 behind some of the world's most famous films, 30 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:37,823 now Harvey Weinstein is apologizing. 31 00:03:37,823 --> 00:03:39,458 It comes as The New York Times 32 00:03:39,458 --> 00:03:41,927 details numerous accusations going back three decades. 33 00:03:41,927 --> 00:03:44,964 The report details allegations of sexual harassment 34 00:03:44,964 --> 00:03:49,835 by a number of women, including employees and some very high‐profile actresses. 35 00:03:49,835 --> 00:03:52,938 Gwyneth Paltrow, Angelina Jolie, 36 00:03:52,938 --> 00:03:56,375 uh, the list of accusers continues to grow. 37 00:03:58,644 --> 00:04:00,646 ♪ 38 00:04:01,881 --> 00:04:03,782 This just in and it's quite disturbing, 39 00:04:03,782 --> 00:04:06,919 another bombshell in the Harvey Weinstein story. 40 00:04:06,919 --> 00:04:10,589 Three more women are now accusing Harvey Weinstein of raping them. 41 00:04:10,589 --> 00:04:14,426 ...who are among nearly 80 who have accused Weinstein of misconduct. 42 00:04:19,165 --> 00:04:22,168 Well, as you can see behind me, Harvey Weinstein 43 00:04:22,168 --> 00:04:26,139 won't be able to escape the spotlight when he turns himself in 44 00:04:26,139 --> 00:04:30,275 not far from his Tribeca office where he ran his media empire. 45 00:04:30,275 --> 00:04:33,846 These accusations span over his career. 46 00:04:33,846 --> 00:04:36,916 How did he get away with it for so long? 47 00:04:36,916 --> 00:04:39,351 Right here, right here. Good, good, good. 48 00:04:42,454 --> 00:04:44,657 What took you so long to surrender, Harvey? 49 00:04:45,791 --> 00:04:48,694 Mr. Weinstein, this must be very humiliating for you. 50 00:04:51,831 --> 00:04:55,334 It was not the type of paparazzi Harvey Weinstein is used to. 51 00:04:55,334 --> 00:04:58,271 Weinstein has repeatedly denied the charges against him. 52 00:04:58,904 --> 00:05:00,239 Down in front! 53 00:05:06,812 --> 00:05:10,850 ‐ Mr. Weinstein intends to enter a plea of not guilty. 54 00:05:10,850 --> 00:05:16,022 We intend to move very quickly to dismiss, uh, these charges. 55 00:05:16,022 --> 00:05:19,892 We believe that they are constitutionally flawed. 56 00:05:19,892 --> 00:05:24,163 We believe that they are not factually supported by the evidence, 57 00:05:24,163 --> 00:05:26,598 and we believe that, at the end of the process, 58 00:05:26,598 --> 00:05:28,934 Mr. Weinstein will be exonerated. 59 00:05:28,934 --> 00:05:32,238 Does he maintain that these relationships were consensual? 60 00:05:32,238 --> 00:05:35,041 ‐ Mr. Weinstein has always maintained 61 00:05:35,041 --> 00:05:39,912 that any sexual activity he engaged in was consensual. 62 00:05:39,912 --> 00:05:43,115 Thank you very much. 63 00:05:48,787 --> 00:05:52,091 He really thinks he's telling the truth 64 00:05:52,091 --> 00:05:54,960 when he says he hasn't had unconsensual sex. 65 00:05:56,361 --> 00:05:58,397 If he gets what he wanted... 66 00:06:00,833 --> 00:06:02,735 no matter what it is, 67 00:06:02,735 --> 00:06:06,872 it doesn't take‐‐ matter what it takes to get there, it doesn't matter. 68 00:06:07,573 --> 00:06:10,676 "If I get what I want, it was consensual." 69 00:06:10,676 --> 00:06:12,477 I think he believed that. 70 00:06:13,445 --> 00:06:15,981 ♪ 71 00:06:35,368 --> 00:06:38,337 I was a student at the University of Buffalo. 72 00:06:38,337 --> 00:06:41,974 I was studying psychology and philosophy. 73 00:06:41,974 --> 00:06:44,076 Someone I knew from college called me 74 00:06:44,076 --> 00:06:46,279 and said, "Fleetwood Mac is going to be here," 75 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:48,614 you know, about the... this concert, 76 00:06:48,614 --> 00:06:51,050 and, uh, "How would you like to work backstage?" 77 00:06:56,822 --> 00:06:59,658 Buffalo was a huge stop on concert tours. 78 00:06:59,658 --> 00:07:05,864 Harvey was the biggest promoter in town, so, you had an album, uh, 79 00:07:05,864 --> 00:07:07,566 you were going to deal with Harvey. 80 00:07:09,268 --> 00:07:12,171 I first met him at the University of Buffalo. 81 00:07:12,171 --> 00:07:16,475 I was working as a photo editor of the school newspaper. 82 00:07:17,643 --> 00:07:20,712 And then as I started to shoot pictures for them, 83 00:07:20,712 --> 00:07:25,318 I realized that they were really doing very well and going places. 84 00:07:27,386 --> 00:07:31,005 Harvey was the talent, Corky was the business. 85 00:07:31,005 --> 00:07:37,696 Harvey wanted to be known by everybody, to have the control and the fame. 86 00:07:37,696 --> 00:07:41,834 It was just that persona of "never take no for an answer." 87 00:07:42,868 --> 00:07:47,907 And that was absolutely his way, it was "never take no for an answer." 88 00:07:57,516 --> 00:08:01,287 The first time I met Harvey was at the concert backstage. 89 00:08:02,388 --> 00:08:05,791 Everyone was very busy doing different things on phones. 90 00:08:05,791 --> 00:08:07,593 I remember him looking at me. 91 00:08:07,593 --> 00:08:10,329 Um, I smiled at him, I'm sure. 92 00:08:11,830 --> 00:08:14,367 Right from the beginning, he was a very charming guy. 93 00:08:14,367 --> 00:08:17,803 You know, he would look at you when he spoke to you with great sincerity. 94 00:08:18,971 --> 00:08:23,909 Not someone I‐‐ I would ever have found attractive physically, 95 00:08:23,909 --> 00:08:27,179 but very attractive in the sense that he was a charming person. 96 00:08:32,285 --> 00:08:35,121 He said, "What do you like doing?" I said, "I love the movies." 97 00:08:36,289 --> 00:08:39,058 And he said, "Well, you know, my brother Bob and I 98 00:08:39,058 --> 00:08:41,494 "are getting in that business and we're just starting, 99 00:08:41,494 --> 00:08:45,264 but if you come to work here, it might be interesting for you." 100 00:08:49,469 --> 00:08:51,504 He told me about Miramax. Uh... 101 00:08:51,504 --> 00:08:54,373 He told me that they were going to form a company. 102 00:08:54,373 --> 00:08:58,077 He was naming it for his parents, Miriam and Max Weinstein, 103 00:08:58,077 --> 00:09:01,046 and that was what he wanted to do, not concert promotion. 104 00:09:03,582 --> 00:09:07,586 His interest was genuine, and his knowledge was genuine. 105 00:09:07,586 --> 00:09:12,458 I love it when I meet people who just love what they do. 106 00:09:12,458 --> 00:09:15,361 And to get paid to do something you're interested in? 107 00:09:17,463 --> 00:09:20,099 Harvey always had aspirations of moving along. 108 00:09:20,099 --> 00:09:22,968 You knew that his aspirations 109 00:09:22,968 --> 00:09:26,638 for success for the films 110 00:09:26,638 --> 00:09:30,843 that he really dreamed of making 111 00:09:30,843 --> 00:09:32,678 weren't going to keep him in Buffalo. 112 00:09:37,616 --> 00:09:39,651 ♪ 113 00:09:54,766 --> 00:09:56,135 He was going to go to New York 114 00:09:56,135 --> 00:10:00,072 to talk to someone about a film they were trying to distribute. 115 00:10:01,507 --> 00:10:03,075 He said, "Why don't you come?" 116 00:10:03,075 --> 00:10:05,644 I said, "Sure." I mean, I jumped at it. 117 00:10:11,417 --> 00:10:13,952 We stayed at a hotel by Central Park. 118 00:10:14,953 --> 00:10:16,288 I was standing in the lobby. 119 00:10:16,288 --> 00:10:19,624 It was, you know, kind of, "You wait with the bags, I'll go and check us in." 120 00:10:23,329 --> 00:10:26,965 He said, "Well, there was a mistake. There's only one room." 121 00:10:28,501 --> 00:10:32,271 And I just, you know, gave him a look and I said, 122 00:10:32,271 --> 00:10:35,608 "Well, then you're going to have to sleep on the chair." 123 00:10:38,477 --> 00:10:39,845 It didn't seem so‐‐ 124 00:10:39,845 --> 00:10:43,349 I mean, that seemed like a real move, um, on his part, 125 00:10:43,349 --> 00:10:46,785 but, you know, the worst I might have thought he would do 126 00:10:46,785 --> 00:10:49,755 would, would be to claim that he slept with me when he hadn't. 127 00:10:49,755 --> 00:10:51,557 I could live with that. 128 00:10:52,925 --> 00:10:53,759 Um... 129 00:10:56,462 --> 00:10:58,097 ♪ 130 00:11:18,484 --> 00:11:21,887 I put on a T‐shirt and some shorts or something to sleep in, 131 00:11:21,887 --> 00:11:24,290 and I went to bed. 132 00:11:24,290 --> 00:11:27,193 Suddenly, Harvey gets into bed naked, next to me. 133 00:11:28,394 --> 00:11:31,864 And I said, you know, something, you know, just, "Harvey..." 134 00:11:31,864 --> 00:11:33,399 and I just pushed him away. 135 00:11:34,733 --> 00:11:39,884 You know he... he tries to cajole at first. 136 00:11:39,884 --> 00:11:43,676 "Do you really want to make me an enemy, 137 00:11:45,010 --> 00:11:47,146 for five minutes of your time?" 138 00:11:53,118 --> 00:11:54,853 I mean... 139 00:12:05,964 --> 00:12:07,533 He just, um... 140 00:12:09,435 --> 00:12:11,937 He just pushed and pushed and... 141 00:12:15,107 --> 00:12:18,477 And then he just, you know, he's huge. 142 00:12:19,545 --> 00:12:24,617 I weigh about a hundred pounds, probably weighed about 110 then. 143 00:12:24,617 --> 00:12:25,718 Maybe... 144 00:12:31,257 --> 00:12:35,461 I don't know how to explain it. I just, I just... 145 00:12:35,461 --> 00:12:38,631 thought, if I just shut up... 146 00:12:46,205 --> 00:12:48,574 it will be over in a few minutes. 147 00:13:00,085 --> 00:13:02,087 ♪ 148 00:13:04,790 --> 00:13:06,825 I didn't want anything from him. 149 00:13:12,197 --> 00:13:13,832 I didn't hit him. 150 00:13:14,933 --> 00:13:16,969 I didn't try to scratch his eyes out. 151 00:13:27,647 --> 00:13:29,915 But I said no, and I pushed him away... 152 00:13:32,284 --> 00:13:33,919 more than once. 153 00:13:35,220 --> 00:13:37,022 And then I just stopped. 154 00:13:53,339 --> 00:13:55,341 ♪ 155 00:13:58,377 --> 00:14:01,146 I was so frightened. 156 00:14:02,381 --> 00:14:04,483 I went back to Buffalo. 157 00:14:04,483 --> 00:14:06,084 I didn't tell anybody. 158 00:14:06,084 --> 00:14:10,356 I knew, he used to say he owned the cops in Buffalo, 159 00:14:10,356 --> 00:14:12,257 because they worked concerts, 160 00:14:12,257 --> 00:14:14,159 they worked security when they were off duty. 161 00:14:14,159 --> 00:14:17,396 You know, he had influence. He had a lot of money. 162 00:14:17,396 --> 00:14:20,433 Um, he did a lot of advertising in newspapers. 163 00:14:20,433 --> 00:14:22,234 Nobody would have believed anything I said. 164 00:14:22,234 --> 00:14:25,070 I wasn't going to go to anybody and complain about that. 165 00:14:31,043 --> 00:14:33,479 I mean, it's the, it's the collateral damage 166 00:14:33,479 --> 00:14:39,118 that, you know, what it does to relationships, 167 00:14:39,118 --> 00:14:41,320 with friends, people you love. 168 00:14:42,288 --> 00:14:43,856 And they don't know why. 169 00:14:49,695 --> 00:14:50,963 That's... 170 00:14:52,364 --> 00:14:53,499 I, you know, it... 171 00:14:54,834 --> 00:14:56,935 It just, he‐‐ 172 00:14:56,935 --> 00:14:59,138 It steals something. 173 00:15:11,884 --> 00:15:13,586 ♪ 174 00:15:24,029 --> 00:15:26,031 ♪ 175 00:15:29,968 --> 00:15:31,937 I never liked the music industry. 176 00:15:33,305 --> 00:15:35,741 I never liked promoting concerts or any of that. 177 00:15:37,510 --> 00:15:39,912 But I always talked about film from the beginning. 178 00:15:41,781 --> 00:15:44,550 Throughout the course of my career, and the early beginnings of it, 179 00:15:44,550 --> 00:15:47,252 people would always say to abandon your dream. 180 00:15:48,888 --> 00:15:51,657 Not to do it, it's not going to happen, it's impossible. 181 00:15:57,296 --> 00:15:58,531 You have to believe in yourself. 182 00:15:58,531 --> 00:16:01,433 You have to be somewhat tenacious, 183 00:16:01,433 --> 00:16:04,269 and you really have to have a conviction. 184 00:16:07,306 --> 00:16:09,308 ♪ 185 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:18,851 I remember meeting him and thinking, 186 00:16:18,851 --> 00:16:22,120 this person can't exist. 187 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:27,927 He's just such a caricature of a Hollywood mogul 188 00:16:27,927 --> 00:16:30,897 that hasn't been around for decades. 189 00:16:30,897 --> 00:16:35,401 I remember as a kid reading about moguls like Harry Cohn and Louis B. Mayer 190 00:16:35,401 --> 00:16:39,037 and thinking it would have been so amazing to work for one of those people. 191 00:16:39,037 --> 00:16:42,909 And then, as it happens, I found myself working for one of those people. 192 00:16:44,376 --> 00:16:46,913 I went over to Miramax for the job interview 193 00:16:46,913 --> 00:16:49,081 to be the chief financial officer. 194 00:16:49,081 --> 00:16:51,483 I spent 30 minutes with Bob. 195 00:16:51,483 --> 00:16:54,219 And then all of a sudden the door swings open and Harvey walks in, 196 00:16:54,219 --> 00:16:55,755 and he goes, "Who's this?" 197 00:16:55,755 --> 00:16:58,691 And Bob goes, "This is Schmidt. We're interviewing for the CFO job." 198 00:16:58,691 --> 00:17:01,226 And he looks at me and he goes, "You're hired." 199 00:17:01,226 --> 00:17:04,663 ‐ I liked the fact that, both with Bob and Harvey, 200 00:17:04,663 --> 00:17:07,867 you could literally just walk into their office with an idea. 201 00:17:07,867 --> 00:17:10,836 And if either of them thought it was a good idea, 202 00:17:10,836 --> 00:17:13,005 you would find yourself doing it. 203 00:17:13,005 --> 00:17:15,374 "Go figure it out, make it happen." 204 00:17:15,374 --> 00:17:16,742 That was exciting. 205 00:17:20,045 --> 00:17:22,681 To get a film either financed here or acquired at Miramax, 206 00:17:22,681 --> 00:17:26,385 it's really a case of me and my brother being the final decision maker. 207 00:17:26,385 --> 00:17:30,456 We've picked up so many films and, you know, financed so many pictures 208 00:17:30,456 --> 00:17:33,225 based on his approval, my approval, and that was it. 209 00:17:33,225 --> 00:17:35,494 There was no three weeks, "Hold on, we've got to go 210 00:17:35,494 --> 00:17:37,630 up through the corporate board meeting." 211 00:17:37,630 --> 00:17:38,898 That's what we like. 212 00:17:38,898 --> 00:17:42,035 At Miramax, we're not under that corporate pressure to say, 213 00:17:42,035 --> 00:17:44,169 "Jesus, we've got to go up each year," 214 00:17:44,169 --> 00:17:46,005 so we can do what we think is good, 215 00:17:46,005 --> 00:17:51,510 and if our profits are lower next year than they were the year before, so what? 216 00:17:51,510 --> 00:17:53,245 So what, as long as we did good work? 217 00:17:53,245 --> 00:17:55,247 ♪ 218 00:17:56,215 --> 00:18:01,086 His sense of marketing and promotion was just phenomenal. 219 00:18:01,086 --> 00:18:04,891 He was able to do things that no one else was able to do 220 00:18:04,891 --> 00:18:07,960 because he was working with extraordinary people 221 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:09,562 on extraordinary projects. 222 00:18:10,963 --> 00:18:12,231 He was brilliant. 223 00:18:14,266 --> 00:18:15,768 The movies were extraordinary, 224 00:18:15,768 --> 00:18:17,970 the opportunities to make them were extraordinary, 225 00:18:17,970 --> 00:18:20,940 and for a time there, Miramax was one of the very few doing it. 226 00:18:21,941 --> 00:18:24,977 And changing the way one thought about independent cinema 227 00:18:24,977 --> 00:18:27,847 and the stories it could tell and how many people they could reach. 228 00:18:27,847 --> 00:18:30,282 And that was an extraordinary thing to be a part of. 229 00:18:30,282 --> 00:18:32,718 ‐ We were the shit then. 230 00:18:32,718 --> 00:18:34,921 Excuse my French. 231 00:18:34,921 --> 00:18:37,155 I mean, we were. 232 00:18:37,155 --> 00:18:38,390 And it was great. 233 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:43,295 One evening... 234 00:18:43,295 --> 00:18:45,698 it must have been one of Harvey's assistants said, 235 00:18:45,698 --> 00:18:50,703 "On your way into work in the morning, come to the screening room." 236 00:18:52,204 --> 00:18:55,808 Lights go down, it's Cinema Paradiso. 237 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:05,684 The end of the film when the little boy becomes the old man 238 00:19:05,684 --> 00:19:10,322 and he's sitting in the theater, watching these old black‐and‐white films... 239 00:19:10,322 --> 00:19:12,324 ♪ 240 00:19:13,258 --> 00:19:15,160 that really moved all of us. 241 00:19:19,598 --> 00:19:22,334 Lights go up, there wasn't a dry eye. 242 00:19:24,303 --> 00:19:28,074 Harvey came down one aisle, Bob came down another, 243 00:19:28,074 --> 00:19:31,209 and they both looked at us and said, "What do you think?" 244 00:19:31,209 --> 00:19:35,047 "What do you mean what do we think, look at our faces. 245 00:19:35,047 --> 00:19:36,214 You have to have this movie." 246 00:19:37,215 --> 00:19:39,351 And they acquired it. 247 00:19:39,351 --> 00:19:41,053 Huge turning point, 248 00:19:41,053 --> 00:19:43,055 because it came around the same time 249 00:19:43,055 --> 00:19:46,659 as Sex, Lies, and Videotape, My Left Foot, Cinema Paradiso. 250 00:19:46,659 --> 00:19:51,730 Those were the three that really changed everything for us. 251 00:19:51,730 --> 00:19:54,667 In a way, all three films demonstrate the brashness, 252 00:19:54,667 --> 00:19:57,937 the confidence, the risk‐taking, um, 253 00:19:57,937 --> 00:20:01,841 many of the things that, that distinguishes Miramax 254 00:20:01,841 --> 00:20:04,476 and distinguished Harvey and Bob at the beginning. 255 00:20:11,150 --> 00:20:13,119 ♪ 256 00:20:22,327 --> 00:20:25,330 I could do what the studios do all day long in my sleep, 257 00:20:25,330 --> 00:20:26,732 and my staff could too. 258 00:20:28,500 --> 00:20:31,804 The Miramax charter was always to make something new and different, 259 00:20:31,804 --> 00:20:35,641 almost like Star Trek, to boldly go where no one had gone before. 260 00:20:36,408 --> 00:20:39,011 I'm gonna tell you the secret of Miramax. 261 00:20:39,011 --> 00:20:42,548 It's not marketing, not corporate politics, 262 00:20:42,548 --> 00:20:44,349 it's the written word. 263 00:20:44,349 --> 00:20:46,351 ♪ 264 00:20:48,087 --> 00:20:49,655 It seems an odd coupling. 265 00:20:49,655 --> 00:20:53,325 Disney‐‐ the makers of Aladdin, Huck Finn, and Beauty and the Beast ‐‐ 266 00:20:53,325 --> 00:20:54,493 has bought Miramax. 267 00:20:54,493 --> 00:20:58,931 ‐ There's no question that Miramax has been on an extraordinary roll. 268 00:20:58,931 --> 00:21:02,601 ‐ It's having, you know, the autonomy to make our kind of movies 269 00:21:02,601 --> 00:21:04,937 and to have their kind of resources. 270 00:21:07,272 --> 00:21:10,143 The success caused Disney to buy Miramax. 271 00:21:11,410 --> 00:21:14,180 Disney was just about invisible. 272 00:21:14,180 --> 00:21:17,416 ‐ The amount of freedom that Harvey and Bob had was unparalleled. 273 00:21:17,416 --> 00:21:20,052 And the theory about that was, "They know how to do something 274 00:21:20,052 --> 00:21:21,954 we don't know how to do, we should just let them do it." 275 00:21:21,954 --> 00:21:24,490 ‐ In some ways that was the best time for Harvey and Bob creatively 276 00:21:24,490 --> 00:21:27,260 because they could gamble with someone else's money, 277 00:21:27,260 --> 00:21:29,228 and gambling was what they were good at. 278 00:21:31,597 --> 00:21:34,267 Harvey at his best was charming, 279 00:21:34,267 --> 00:21:37,670 funny and amazing at what he did. 280 00:21:37,670 --> 00:21:42,675 Harvey at his worst was a monster that you wouldn't want to cross. 281 00:21:42,675 --> 00:21:46,846 ‐ You had an overlord who lived by the most vicious methods possible 282 00:21:46,846 --> 00:21:48,181 in order to instill fear. 283 00:21:48,181 --> 00:21:52,285 ‐ I mean, we've all had tough bosses, right, in the business from time to time, 284 00:21:52,285 --> 00:21:55,288 but over time, this became something worse than that. 285 00:21:55,288 --> 00:21:58,124 ‐ In a lot of ways, he was tougher on the guys. 286 00:21:58,124 --> 00:22:00,092 ‐ I've ducked from a couple of ashtrays being thrown at me, 287 00:22:00,092 --> 00:22:02,295 one of them that probably weighed five pounds, made out of marble. 288 00:22:02,295 --> 00:22:05,698 ‐ If you were, uh, in his way, uh, it didn't matter, 289 00:22:05,698 --> 00:22:08,100 he was, you know, an equal opportunity abuser. 290 00:22:08,100 --> 00:22:10,569 ‐ Miramax broke a ton of people. Harvey broke a ton of people. 291 00:22:10,569 --> 00:22:12,805 ‐ It's just how it was. 292 00:22:12,805 --> 00:22:15,841 You either dealt with it or you left. 293 00:22:16,909 --> 00:22:21,113 ‐ Miramax was built on its energy and its, you know, 294 00:22:21,113 --> 00:22:24,650 its, um... you know, its breaking of the rules. 295 00:22:24,650 --> 00:22:28,954 And, you know, that's okay when you're doing it 296 00:22:28,954 --> 00:22:31,490 in a professional and respectful manner‐‐ 297 00:22:31,490 --> 00:22:35,928 you're breaking the rules in an industry or, you know, disrupting an industry‐‐ 298 00:22:35,928 --> 00:22:40,833 but it's not okay when it's, you know, when it's, uh, harassment, 299 00:22:40,833 --> 00:22:45,304 and harassment was, uh, was all over the place. 300 00:22:47,740 --> 00:22:51,643 We sort of knew that Harvey was cheating on his wife, 301 00:22:51,643 --> 00:22:56,949 but I think we thought that that was all that was going on, 302 00:22:56,949 --> 00:22:59,618 until a little time went past. 303 00:22:59,618 --> 00:23:01,921 ‐ A young woman, who was a friend of mine, 304 00:23:01,921 --> 00:23:04,757 who I had introduced to the company, 305 00:23:04,757 --> 00:23:07,059 very smart, very capable, 306 00:23:07,059 --> 00:23:10,763 uh, against quite a bit of competition, she landed a job. 307 00:23:10,763 --> 00:23:16,235 ‐ One day this particular assistant just stopped coming to work. 308 00:23:16,235 --> 00:23:17,703 And I didn't know why. 309 00:23:17,703 --> 00:23:22,641 So I went and talked to the people that I shared her with, 310 00:23:22,641 --> 00:23:25,144 the other department. 311 00:23:25,144 --> 00:23:28,314 And they kind of gave me 312 00:23:28,314 --> 00:23:32,417 this very whispered story 313 00:23:32,417 --> 00:23:35,554 of what sort of kind of might have happened. 314 00:23:35,554 --> 00:23:37,689 ‐ She had been delivering a script to Harvey 315 00:23:37,689 --> 00:23:41,627 at his, uh, his apartment, I guess, in New York, 316 00:23:41,627 --> 00:23:44,397 and there was, um, you know, 317 00:23:44,397 --> 00:23:48,000 there was a very, um, um, you know, 318 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:49,835 a very bad, uh, incident. 319 00:23:49,835 --> 00:23:51,837 ♪ 320 00:23:55,408 --> 00:23:57,810 One of the many things I did for Bob on a daily basis 321 00:23:57,810 --> 00:23:59,511 was open his mail, 322 00:23:59,511 --> 00:24:04,150 and it was not unusual for us to get letters from law firms. 323 00:24:04,150 --> 00:24:06,051 We got letters from law firms all the time. 324 00:24:07,086 --> 00:24:10,555 This particular letter was not one of those letters. 325 00:24:12,291 --> 00:24:17,196 This was a letter stating that 326 00:24:17,196 --> 00:24:21,500 "We intend to file suit against Harvey 327 00:24:21,500 --> 00:24:23,669 for sexual assault." 328 00:24:24,870 --> 00:24:27,039 And I sat there and read it, the whole thing, 329 00:24:27,039 --> 00:24:29,175 over and over, three or four times, 330 00:24:29,175 --> 00:24:30,843 until I really... 331 00:24:33,179 --> 00:24:34,780 I got good and angry. 332 00:24:40,652 --> 00:24:44,457 You have a choice to make, I guess. I had a choice to make. 333 00:24:44,457 --> 00:24:46,825 You either swallow it, ignore it. 334 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,529 I'm not that person, I can't do that. 335 00:24:50,529 --> 00:24:53,632 So I walked in and I gave him mail, 336 00:24:53,632 --> 00:24:57,569 other mail that he had to have dealt with, 337 00:24:57,569 --> 00:25:00,139 it was mail that he had to deal with. 338 00:25:00,139 --> 00:25:04,576 And at the end, I handed him the envelope from the attorney's office and said, 339 00:25:04,576 --> 00:25:06,045 "And this came too." 340 00:25:06,045 --> 00:25:07,679 ♪ 341 00:25:09,348 --> 00:25:12,051 The young woman signed a nondisclosure agreement. 342 00:25:12,051 --> 00:25:13,953 There was a cash settlement. 343 00:25:13,953 --> 00:25:17,189 It had all happened quickly, in a matter of two or three days. 344 00:25:19,691 --> 00:25:23,362 I left very shortly thereafter. 345 00:25:23,362 --> 00:25:28,434 As I walked out of Bob's office, I pointed my finger at him and I said, 346 00:25:28,434 --> 00:25:31,337 "I quit, and your brother is a fucking pig." 347 00:25:31,337 --> 00:25:37,776 ‐ You know, as I look back, I, you know, I can't quite reconcile, you know, myself 348 00:25:37,776 --> 00:25:44,116 to just not up and quitting when my friend was abused by him. 349 00:25:44,116 --> 00:25:47,019 You know, um, sexually abused. 350 00:25:47,019 --> 00:25:50,589 Um, so I live with that, for sure. 351 00:25:55,861 --> 00:25:59,965 This is me at my first Cannes Film Festival, 352 00:25:59,965 --> 00:26:02,034 looking slightly bemused. 353 00:26:03,536 --> 00:26:06,205 Harvey and I on a yacht. 354 00:26:07,473 --> 00:26:11,877 Me in the office looking about 12. 355 00:26:11,877 --> 00:26:14,280 That's quite shortly before I left. 356 00:26:15,714 --> 00:26:17,649 When Harvey came to the UK, 357 00:26:17,649 --> 00:26:21,887 you'd be with him at the Savoy, where he conducted all his business. 358 00:26:21,887 --> 00:26:24,457 As an assistant, you had to go and get him up in the morning, 359 00:26:24,457 --> 00:26:27,626 which meant there'd usually be a tussle at the bedside. 360 00:26:27,626 --> 00:26:29,195 Um, you know, he showered. 361 00:26:29,195 --> 00:26:32,798 He expected you to go... be around when he was naked. 362 00:26:32,798 --> 00:26:35,968 He very quickly tried to normalize the situation 363 00:26:35,968 --> 00:26:38,670 and just told me I had to get with it and not be such a prissy, 364 00:26:38,670 --> 00:26:43,376 and that he didn't have time to worry about my delicate feelings. 365 00:26:43,376 --> 00:26:47,313 And, you know, at 23 and your first job, you believe what they tell you. 366 00:26:47,313 --> 00:26:50,149 So I was like, okay, well, I'm now in the big league and, yeah, of course. 367 00:26:50,149 --> 00:26:54,353 He's... He's really important, he doesn't have time to sort of, you know, 368 00:26:54,353 --> 00:26:57,756 do things like wear trousers when he's tired. 369 00:26:59,559 --> 00:27:02,661 The first time that he asked for a massage, I was very robust, 370 00:27:02,661 --> 00:27:04,930 and, and I was always pretty cheeky and rude back to him, 371 00:27:04,930 --> 00:27:06,098 which would make him laugh. 372 00:27:07,166 --> 00:27:11,404 And so I didn't feel frightened, but it was exhausting. 373 00:27:11,404 --> 00:27:14,773 It was mentally exhausting because you were always slightly fighting, 374 00:27:14,773 --> 00:27:15,841 you were always nearly‐‐ 375 00:27:15,841 --> 00:27:18,544 It felt like you were always just keeping your head above water. 376 00:27:18,544 --> 00:27:20,546 ♪ 377 00:27:23,416 --> 00:27:26,051 But it was a very exciting environment to be in. 378 00:27:26,051 --> 00:27:29,288 When you were with Harvey, you were going out to dinner 379 00:27:29,288 --> 00:27:32,958 with Sean Connery and Leonardo DiCaprio 380 00:27:32,958 --> 00:27:34,659 and flying around in private jets. 381 00:27:34,659 --> 00:27:36,762 He created an energy around him 382 00:27:36,762 --> 00:27:40,132 that made it feel like you were in the center of the universe. 383 00:27:40,132 --> 00:27:42,001 ♪ 384 00:27:54,013 --> 00:27:58,083 I had recently employed an assistant to help me with Harvey. 385 00:27:58,083 --> 00:28:00,786 When I was interviewing people, I very clearly said to people, 386 00:28:00,786 --> 00:28:02,921 "He will behave inappropriately. 387 00:28:02,921 --> 00:28:04,823 If you deal with him robustly you'll be fine," 388 00:28:04,823 --> 00:28:06,359 because that was my experience. 389 00:28:10,196 --> 00:28:14,233 That evening, my colleague did the night shift. 390 00:28:14,233 --> 00:28:15,968 It was her first time with him alone, 391 00:28:15,968 --> 00:28:20,473 and he assaulted her and attempted to rape her. 392 00:28:20,473 --> 00:28:24,176 Which she told me, uh, the next day. 393 00:28:24,176 --> 00:28:27,946 And I think probably was one of the most shattering bits of news 394 00:28:27,946 --> 00:28:29,281 I had ever had. 395 00:28:29,281 --> 00:28:32,885 Um, so I immediately went and confronted Harvey. 396 00:28:34,053 --> 00:28:36,755 He told me nothing, 397 00:28:36,755 --> 00:28:40,092 and he then swore on his wife, who was Eve at the time, 398 00:28:40,092 --> 00:28:41,694 and his children's life, 399 00:28:41,694 --> 00:28:45,531 which to me, I'm afraid, was an absolute admission of guilt 400 00:28:45,531 --> 00:28:48,167 because I had heard him only do that 401 00:28:48,167 --> 00:28:50,736 as a sort of proper "get out of jail" card, 402 00:28:50,736 --> 00:28:56,642 that was his really "I'm in trouble," um, lie. 403 00:28:56,642 --> 00:28:58,777 ♪ 404 00:29:00,913 --> 00:29:04,684 I was pretty panicked because I didn't really know what to do. 405 00:29:04,684 --> 00:29:07,687 We had no physical evidence. 406 00:29:07,687 --> 00:29:10,723 By the time we were all back in England, 407 00:29:10,723 --> 00:29:12,725 she just still didn't want to go to the police, 408 00:29:12,725 --> 00:29:15,160 which I completely understand and had to respect. 409 00:29:17,663 --> 00:29:20,600 So the day that I resigned, 410 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,335 I was bombarded with telephone calls from him 411 00:29:23,335 --> 00:29:28,641 and, um, a lot of execs from the New York office. 412 00:29:28,641 --> 00:29:30,909 Um, and... 413 00:29:32,177 --> 00:29:36,582 I think I had a total of about 17 or 18 messages that night, 414 00:29:36,582 --> 00:29:38,183 that went pretty much through the night. 415 00:29:39,719 --> 00:29:42,555 I genuinely felt that I might be in danger 416 00:29:42,555 --> 00:29:46,858 and I felt that I may need evidence in court. 417 00:29:46,858 --> 00:29:50,129 Um, anyway, I'll just let you hear. 418 00:30:45,618 --> 00:30:47,620 ♪ 419 00:30:55,861 --> 00:31:00,165 I write about the media and communications for The New Yorker. 420 00:31:00,165 --> 00:31:02,401 So I try and tell a story through an individual. 421 00:31:02,401 --> 00:31:05,971 Uh, in this case, it was a Hollywood story. 422 00:31:05,971 --> 00:31:08,307 We decided to profile Harvey Weinstein. 423 00:31:08,307 --> 00:31:10,309 ♪ 424 00:31:12,211 --> 00:31:15,314 I was interested in power, he had power. 425 00:31:15,314 --> 00:31:21,086 I was interested in abusive power, and I'd heard tales of his abusive power. 426 00:31:21,086 --> 00:31:23,389 I'm just talking about bullying of people, 427 00:31:23,389 --> 00:31:25,357 and obviously I'd heard about 428 00:31:25,357 --> 00:31:28,527 and witnessed, by watching his movies, some real talent. 429 00:31:34,099 --> 00:31:37,369 I spent an enormous amount of one‐on‐one time with him, 430 00:31:37,369 --> 00:31:40,740 as well as time watching him just being a fly on the wall. 431 00:31:42,608 --> 00:31:45,978 In the course of reporting, I came across an incident 432 00:31:45,978 --> 00:31:51,383 where a female employee of Miramax, he attempted to rape her. 433 00:31:51,383 --> 00:31:54,320 And, um, it was violent. 434 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:55,721 She was frightened. 435 00:31:55,721 --> 00:31:58,924 She talked to Zelda Perkins, who was an assistant to Harvey, 436 00:31:58,924 --> 00:32:03,128 and Harvey agreed to pay just under $250,000 437 00:32:03,128 --> 00:32:05,130 if they would sign a non‐disclosure agreement. 438 00:32:09,268 --> 00:32:11,937 At this point, I was trying to work out 439 00:32:11,937 --> 00:32:13,439 how to make this okay. 440 00:32:13,439 --> 00:32:17,009 And the only way I could make it okay in my mind 441 00:32:17,009 --> 00:32:18,711 was, okay, well, we will ask 442 00:32:18,711 --> 00:32:23,783 for an enormous amount of money that is indicative of the crime. 443 00:32:23,783 --> 00:32:27,553 This payment is going to show how guilty he is. 444 00:32:30,790 --> 00:32:33,659 "Dear Zelda, I am writing to set out the agreement 445 00:32:33,659 --> 00:32:37,563 relating to the termination of your employment with Miramax Film Corp." 446 00:32:38,698 --> 00:32:41,233 What they wanted was pretty simple. 447 00:32:42,635 --> 00:32:45,971 They wanted us to never speak about anything to do 448 00:32:45,971 --> 00:32:50,209 with Miramax or Harvey or Bob, um, obviously the incident, 449 00:32:50,209 --> 00:32:53,011 anything, ever again. 450 00:32:53,011 --> 00:32:57,616 But it became pretty sinister when we weren't allowed 451 00:32:57,616 --> 00:33:01,253 to discuss this with a therapist. 452 00:33:01,253 --> 00:33:03,322 If we spoke to a therapist, 453 00:33:03,322 --> 00:33:05,858 the therapist had to sign a confidentiality agreement. 454 00:33:07,226 --> 00:33:11,831 If the therapist then broke that confidentiality agreement, 455 00:33:11,831 --> 00:33:13,332 we would be held responsible, 456 00:33:13,332 --> 00:33:16,134 we would be considered in breach of our contract. 457 00:33:16,134 --> 00:33:18,871 It also very clearly stipulates 458 00:33:18,871 --> 00:33:22,708 that if there is a civil or criminal case brought, 459 00:33:22,708 --> 00:33:27,179 that we have to provide reasonable assistance to help Miramax. 460 00:33:29,582 --> 00:33:32,451 You know, we had guns pointing at us from every direction. 461 00:33:37,723 --> 00:33:40,158 Ken Auletta found me in Guatemala. 462 00:33:41,527 --> 00:33:44,764 And I remember he called me on my mobile and I was terrified 463 00:33:44,764 --> 00:33:46,766 and couldn't speak to him. 464 00:33:47,733 --> 00:33:51,236 I genuinely thought I'd end up in jail if I broke my agreement. 465 00:33:52,972 --> 00:33:56,108 I believed he had done this terrible thing, 466 00:33:56,108 --> 00:33:58,945 and yet I didn't have anyone on the record saying it. 467 00:33:58,945 --> 00:34:03,816 I was hearing stories which essentially you could dismiss as rumor, 468 00:34:03,816 --> 00:34:06,318 because you didn't have names attached. 469 00:34:06,318 --> 00:34:08,053 You need to be able to prove things, 470 00:34:08,053 --> 00:34:11,657 and so we had to publish the piece without including Zelda's story. 471 00:34:12,758 --> 00:34:15,995 It was very frustrating for me because I knew he was a predator. 472 00:34:15,995 --> 00:34:17,596 I knew he was pathological, 473 00:34:17,596 --> 00:34:20,033 and I wanted to stop him because I knew he would do it again. 474 00:34:27,006 --> 00:34:29,074 ♪ 475 00:34:44,122 --> 00:34:47,660 I had been connected with this lovely model, 476 00:34:47,660 --> 00:34:50,362 and she sort of took me under her wing. 477 00:34:50,362 --> 00:34:53,566 She had invited me, uh, to come along to this party, 478 00:34:53,566 --> 00:34:58,170 where, um, I sat down to dinner next to Harvey Weinstein, 479 00:34:58,170 --> 00:35:00,573 and I did not know who he was at the time. 480 00:35:06,612 --> 00:35:11,383 He was very at ease, casually chatting about, uh, 481 00:35:11,383 --> 00:35:13,151 family and life in a small town, 482 00:35:13,151 --> 00:35:16,889 and he talked passionately about our industry. 483 00:35:16,889 --> 00:35:20,292 He talked about it like some, like a film nerd, 484 00:35:20,292 --> 00:35:23,096 like somebody who just loved storytelling 485 00:35:23,096 --> 00:35:25,098 and who was so proud to be able to do it. 486 00:35:27,466 --> 00:35:31,704 By the end of it, he was quite sure that I was going to do very well, 487 00:35:31,704 --> 00:35:33,205 he could help me out. 488 00:35:35,541 --> 00:35:40,079 I really believed that I was seeing this genius 489 00:35:40,079 --> 00:35:43,282 who could just spot a Gwyneth Paltrow. 490 00:35:45,217 --> 00:35:48,687 We were both leaving and he beckoned me over and said, uh, 491 00:35:48,687 --> 00:35:52,725 you know, "I'm not done talking to you. We gotta talk about what comes next." 492 00:35:52,725 --> 00:35:56,595 And, uh, he said, "Can you give me a lift back to my hotel?" 493 00:35:56,595 --> 00:35:58,597 ♪ 494 00:36:06,806 --> 00:36:10,643 He asked if I would continue talking upstairs. 495 00:36:10,643 --> 00:36:13,445 Uh, he had an office suite. 496 00:36:13,445 --> 00:36:18,216 And although it was late, I thought, 497 00:36:18,216 --> 00:36:22,822 well, I either say "no thanks" and go home 498 00:36:22,822 --> 00:36:24,757 or I take the meeting. 499 00:36:24,757 --> 00:36:29,996 So, although I knew there was a risk, I also knew that you take risks 500 00:36:29,996 --> 00:36:31,797 when you're young and hopeful 501 00:36:31,797 --> 00:36:35,601 and trying to make it in a seemingly impossible industry. 502 00:36:35,601 --> 00:36:37,036 You say yes. 503 00:36:37,036 --> 00:36:39,038 ♪ 504 00:36:46,244 --> 00:36:49,615 He no longer seemed to want to talk about work, 505 00:36:51,249 --> 00:36:55,220 and he slid, uh, his arm around my waist, 506 00:36:55,220 --> 00:36:57,690 as though we were old friends. 507 00:36:57,690 --> 00:37:03,062 And he said, "We're cool right? We're friends, right?" 508 00:37:04,096 --> 00:37:07,499 And he took his shirt off and suggested I do the same. 509 00:37:11,204 --> 00:37:15,941 I told him that I had a boyfriend at home and... 510 00:37:15,941 --> 00:37:19,979 and, and he said, you know, "I'm married, it's not a big deal. 511 00:37:19,979 --> 00:37:21,680 Everybody does this." 512 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:25,851 And he, you know, he rattled off the names of a few young actresses 513 00:37:25,851 --> 00:37:29,088 that had been in recent films of his, 514 00:37:29,088 --> 00:37:32,391 as though we were all just friends 515 00:37:32,391 --> 00:37:36,294 and this was just part of Hollywood. 516 00:37:36,294 --> 00:37:39,932 And it seemed so unlikely that all of these women 517 00:37:39,932 --> 00:37:43,736 would have crossed that line to get the jobs that they had. 518 00:37:43,736 --> 00:37:45,004 I didn't want to believe that. 519 00:37:46,806 --> 00:37:50,576 And so we had a weird... sort of negotiation 520 00:37:50,576 --> 00:37:54,379 about what I was willing to do, 521 00:37:54,379 --> 00:37:57,449 and I wanted to just get out. 522 00:37:57,449 --> 00:38:00,186 But I was afraid to upset him. 523 00:38:02,054 --> 00:38:05,891 And so he laid down on the bed, 524 00:38:05,891 --> 00:38:09,762 and I stood on either side of him... 525 00:38:11,063 --> 00:38:16,735 and bent down and, and feigned interest in the art of massage. 526 00:38:16,735 --> 00:38:18,938 Then I told him I had to go. 527 00:38:18,938 --> 00:38:22,307 I had... people waiting for me or something. 528 00:38:22,307 --> 00:38:26,245 I made some excuse, and he walked me to the door 529 00:38:26,245 --> 00:38:28,881 and acted as though, um... 530 00:38:30,716 --> 00:38:33,052 I'd passed some sort of test, 531 00:38:33,052 --> 00:38:37,556 and... and he would see what comes up for me. 532 00:38:41,127 --> 00:38:43,129 ♪ 533 00:38:50,870 --> 00:38:56,209 I was revved up on adrenaline. 534 00:38:56,209 --> 00:38:59,212 I felt like I had just escaped 535 00:38:59,212 --> 00:39:03,482 a narrow encounter. 536 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,256 I should have kept away from him at that point. 537 00:39:13,226 --> 00:39:16,795 But I also still really believed in my future. 538 00:39:17,830 --> 00:39:19,631 And I had turned him down once. 539 00:39:19,631 --> 00:39:23,736 He knew I was not going to sleep with him. 540 00:39:23,736 --> 00:39:28,640 And I had every reason to hope 541 00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:32,178 that he was just going to help me. 542 00:39:32,178 --> 00:39:34,180 ♪ 543 00:39:36,782 --> 00:39:38,650 I wanted desperately to believe that. 544 00:39:50,596 --> 00:39:53,299 Juliette Binoche in The English Patient. 545 00:39:55,034 --> 00:39:57,103 Anthony Minghella for The English Patient. 546 00:39:57,103 --> 00:39:58,837 And the Oscar goes... 547 00:39:59,671 --> 00:40:01,506 to The English Patient. 548 00:40:04,310 --> 00:40:07,479 Box office prognosis is very good for The English Patient. 549 00:40:07,479 --> 00:40:09,882 The film was the runaway winner at the Academy Awards, 550 00:40:09,882 --> 00:40:11,416 picking up nine Oscars. 551 00:40:11,416 --> 00:40:13,452 ‐ Roberto! 552 00:40:15,654 --> 00:40:17,456 Those Weinstein brothers have done it again, 553 00:40:17,456 --> 00:40:19,992 with more wins at the 71st Academy Awards. 554 00:40:19,992 --> 00:40:22,895 Harvey was laser‐focused on the Oscars. 555 00:40:22,895 --> 00:40:25,697 He understood the value of the Oscars, monetarily, 556 00:40:25,697 --> 00:40:27,699 to every movie that got an award. 557 00:40:27,699 --> 00:40:32,305 Harvey was the first person to marshal a whole team of Oscar specialists. 558 00:40:33,538 --> 00:40:36,242 Five movies a year nominated for best picture out of 600. 559 00:40:36,242 --> 00:40:39,678 We had one every year for ten years in a row, not an accident. 560 00:40:39,678 --> 00:40:42,248 ‐ Harvey Weinstein, Bob Weinstein, God bless 'em. 561 00:40:42,248 --> 00:40:44,549 ‐ Harvey Weinstein, who believed in us and made this movie... 562 00:40:44,549 --> 00:40:46,919 And so Harvey ended up being thanked more than God. 563 00:40:46,919 --> 00:40:48,087 ‐ Thank you, Harvey Weinstein. 564 00:40:48,087 --> 00:40:49,288 ‐ Especially Harvey. 565 00:40:49,288 --> 00:40:53,225 The throwing of parties, giving gifts to Academy members, 566 00:40:53,225 --> 00:40:57,629 the private screenings with the filmmaker or the actor and the actress, 567 00:40:57,629 --> 00:40:59,531 a lavish dinner to follow. 568 00:41:00,299 --> 00:41:02,601 That was really created by Harvey. 569 00:41:02,601 --> 00:41:04,570 ♪ 570 00:41:06,406 --> 00:41:07,806 Some people would call it gluttony. 571 00:41:07,806 --> 00:41:09,608 You'd see it in Harvey's physique, obviously, 572 00:41:09,608 --> 00:41:11,844 but you'd see it also in just everything he did. 573 00:41:12,945 --> 00:41:14,813 There was always wanting more. 574 00:41:14,813 --> 00:41:18,251 More press, more sales, more good reviews, 575 00:41:18,251 --> 00:41:20,719 more movies, more movie stars, 576 00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:22,922 more parties, just more, more, more, more, more. 577 00:41:22,922 --> 00:41:25,791 ‐ I would like to thank Harvey Weinstein. 578 00:41:25,791 --> 00:41:28,327 ‐ First of all, it's exhausting, and second of all, it tells you something 579 00:41:28,327 --> 00:41:31,264 about a hole that is trying to be filled, right, which is it's never good enough. 580 00:41:32,164 --> 00:41:33,366 ‐ Shakespeare in Love. 581 00:41:34,499 --> 00:41:36,469 I think it's very much about power. 582 00:41:36,469 --> 00:41:39,405 I think that the sort of arc of Harvey's career 583 00:41:39,405 --> 00:41:42,641 is all about the accumulation of influence and power. 584 00:41:42,641 --> 00:41:45,445 He thought of himself as the sheriff in town. 585 00:41:45,445 --> 00:41:47,046 I mean, he literally called himself that. 586 00:41:48,481 --> 00:41:52,351 The anger and the impulsiveness and the abuse of power 587 00:41:52,351 --> 00:41:54,553 are inseparable from the genius. 588 00:41:54,553 --> 00:41:55,988 That's the tragedy. 589 00:41:55,988 --> 00:41:59,058 I wanna thank Mark Gill and Marcy Granata, 590 00:41:59,058 --> 00:42:02,895 who are the, one in two, most dynamite marketing team. 591 00:42:02,895 --> 00:42:06,332 And nobody inspires me more than my brother Bob, 592 00:42:06,332 --> 00:42:08,801 who is my partner and best friend every day. 593 00:42:13,538 --> 00:42:15,441 If you think about the way the Weinsteins work, 594 00:42:15,441 --> 00:42:17,376 it was very much the mafia axiom 595 00:42:17,376 --> 00:42:20,012 of "dote on the family and kill everybody else." 596 00:42:24,183 --> 00:42:26,051 The most ironic part of all this is that 597 00:42:26,051 --> 00:42:29,322 the nastiest fights of all were between Harvey and Bob. 598 00:42:29,322 --> 00:42:32,891 The first rule of Miramax is, never get between the brothers. 599 00:42:32,891 --> 00:42:35,495 Because they were fiercely loyal to each other, 600 00:42:35,495 --> 00:42:38,364 at the same time that they were threatening to kill each other. 601 00:42:39,665 --> 00:42:42,601 Harvey was volcanic. 602 00:42:42,601 --> 00:42:45,604 We all knew what Harvey was thinking because he would tell you. 603 00:42:45,604 --> 00:42:48,707 With Bob, you often never knew what he was thinking. 604 00:42:48,707 --> 00:42:52,678 Bob was more of a simmering soul. 605 00:42:54,213 --> 00:42:57,517 His was more under his breath. 606 00:42:58,650 --> 00:43:01,320 "Don't ask me that question." 607 00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:06,158 Bob is much more shy, sometimes socially awkward. 608 00:43:06,158 --> 00:43:10,662 At the same time, Bob was more of a real person than Harvey. 609 00:43:10,662 --> 00:43:13,232 You know, Bob has actual friends. 610 00:43:13,232 --> 00:43:16,202 Bob can just go to a ball game and have fun. 611 00:43:16,202 --> 00:43:22,174 Um, Harvey doesn't really have that kind of relationship with anybody. 612 00:43:22,174 --> 00:43:24,443 You know, Harvey is always working. 613 00:43:24,443 --> 00:43:29,248 He's always, at the very least, working at the job of being Harvey Weinstein. 614 00:43:38,924 --> 00:43:40,926 ♪ 615 00:43:49,535 --> 00:43:52,438 I was born in Brooklyn and then I moved to Queens. 616 00:43:55,274 --> 00:43:59,678 We went to the rent‐controlled apartment complex called Electchester. 617 00:43:59,678 --> 00:44:03,648 And, um, we had a really good childhood and a really good time. 618 00:44:07,152 --> 00:44:08,474 This is Harvey, 619 00:44:08,474 --> 00:44:12,558 with the bow tie and the protuberant ears. 620 00:44:12,558 --> 00:44:15,327 He looks happy, everybody looks happy. 621 00:44:15,327 --> 00:44:17,396 I guess we didn't have the Cuban missile crisis 622 00:44:17,396 --> 00:44:18,997 until a few years later. 623 00:44:22,067 --> 00:44:24,069 He wasn't very sociable. 624 00:44:24,069 --> 00:44:28,007 He was a sort of an outsider and he was never in any of the school plays, 625 00:44:28,007 --> 00:44:29,642 or get into sports or anything. 626 00:44:29,642 --> 00:44:32,744 He just didn't stand out at all. 627 00:44:32,744 --> 00:44:37,283 It really wasn't until sometime in the beginning of college 628 00:44:37,283 --> 00:44:40,786 when he got a reputation as obnoxious. 629 00:44:40,786 --> 00:44:43,255 The main thing he did that really got on people's nerves 630 00:44:43,255 --> 00:44:46,992 was he would go around acting like the Godfather. 631 00:44:46,992 --> 00:44:50,829 He was insecure about his looks, about his physical appearance. 632 00:44:50,829 --> 00:44:54,833 He thought he was ugly, he thought he was unattractive. 633 00:44:54,833 --> 00:44:58,337 Harvey was a guy who, with a chip on his shoulder, who, 634 00:44:58,337 --> 00:45:02,141 who felt he was fighting the establishment always. 635 00:45:02,141 --> 00:45:04,143 ♪ 636 00:45:10,916 --> 00:45:12,818 To me, I'm still the underdog. 637 00:45:14,253 --> 00:45:16,222 I felt that way when I was young. 638 00:45:16,222 --> 00:45:17,923 And sometimes I still feel that way. 639 00:45:19,425 --> 00:45:21,594 That's why I like making movies about underdogs. 640 00:45:24,430 --> 00:45:26,832 He cut a big figure, he made things happen. 641 00:45:26,832 --> 00:45:29,935 He scared people, in the same way a gangster would. 642 00:45:32,071 --> 00:45:35,040 He wasn't phony, he said what he said. 643 00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:36,975 He meant what he meant, like Popeye. 644 00:45:36,975 --> 00:45:41,146 He was trying to prove that he was king of the world, 645 00:45:41,146 --> 00:45:43,215 that he wanted to show everybody. 646 00:45:43,215 --> 00:45:45,084 And, you know, for a while there, he, at least for, 647 00:45:45,084 --> 00:45:47,052 in the independent film world, he was the king of the world. 648 00:45:51,390 --> 00:45:53,492 ♪ The wheel ♪ 649 00:45:53,492 --> 00:45:58,297 ♪ Of fortune ♪ 650 00:45:58,297 --> 00:46:01,934 ♪ Goes spinning around... ♪ 651 00:46:01,934 --> 00:46:03,936 At that period in New York City, 652 00:46:03,936 --> 00:46:05,170 there were parties every night. 653 00:46:05,170 --> 00:46:07,740 There were parties for perfume launches, there were parties for books, 654 00:46:07,740 --> 00:46:10,576 there were movie premieres, there were TV premieres everywhere. 655 00:46:10,576 --> 00:46:12,478 The cast of Sex and the City would show up. 656 00:46:12,478 --> 00:46:16,048 There were red carpets everywhere, it was a very sort of high party time. 657 00:46:18,150 --> 00:46:23,255 ♪ Oh, wheel of fortune... ♪ 658 00:46:23,255 --> 00:46:26,258 The people who run that city, I saw them almost every night. 659 00:46:26,258 --> 00:46:29,528 It was not uncommon to see Donald Trump and Harvey Weinstein 660 00:46:29,528 --> 00:46:30,730 on the same night, at the same event. 661 00:46:32,465 --> 00:46:35,635 Back then, Miramax was a vibrant company 662 00:46:35,635 --> 00:46:40,038 with a lot of great projects, a lot of cool celebrities. 663 00:46:40,038 --> 00:46:41,507 Everybody wanted to be around it. 664 00:46:41,507 --> 00:46:43,509 ♪ 665 00:46:56,555 --> 00:46:58,290 That needle‐to‐the‐heart scene 666 00:46:58,290 --> 00:47:02,394 genius. 667 00:47:02,394 --> 00:47:05,230 You could say this about Harvey Weinstein, he had really good taste. 668 00:47:05,230 --> 00:47:06,532 He made good films. 669 00:47:07,266 --> 00:47:08,967 ‐ That was fuckin' trippy. 670 00:47:11,270 --> 00:47:14,039 Oh, man. 671 00:47:14,039 --> 00:47:18,511 ‐ He really understood... good material. 672 00:47:19,612 --> 00:47:23,015 What Harvey was doing in the 1990s in New York City is, 673 00:47:23,015 --> 00:47:26,218 he was recreating some of the romance of the studio era. 674 00:47:26,218 --> 00:47:30,989 It offered the fairy tale that's very connected in the American mythology 675 00:47:30,989 --> 00:47:35,194 of how you become a star, how you become an artist. 676 00:47:40,399 --> 00:47:43,669 Many people who have gone to work in the movie industry 677 00:47:43,669 --> 00:47:46,238 are drawn there by this kind of fantasy. 678 00:47:49,542 --> 00:47:52,945 And Harvey was, like, the path to that. 679 00:47:52,945 --> 00:47:55,815 Miramax was sort of "it" and Harvey was the guy 680 00:47:55,815 --> 00:47:57,717 that was kind of making things happen. 681 00:47:57,717 --> 00:48:02,921 The opportunities for actors to do great roles, big or small, were there. 682 00:48:02,921 --> 00:48:07,059 What could be more exciting as a young actor? 683 00:48:07,059 --> 00:48:09,228 It was an exciting time, yeah. 684 00:48:10,797 --> 00:48:12,799 ♪ 685 00:48:17,369 --> 00:48:21,273 ‐ Hi. Paz. Nice to meet you. 686 00:48:24,577 --> 00:48:28,781 I always imagined, like plenty of people in this industry, 687 00:48:28,781 --> 00:48:33,218 that actresses slept with Harvey because it was good for their career, 688 00:48:33,218 --> 00:48:35,354 not because they wanted to jump in bed with him 689 00:48:35,354 --> 00:48:38,023 because they were in love with him. 690 00:48:38,023 --> 00:48:41,293 I just assumed many actresses did that. 691 00:48:44,396 --> 00:48:47,966 I don't know, uh, it's just not odd to me. 692 00:48:50,670 --> 00:48:53,272 There's no question that Harvey exuded a certain power. 693 00:48:53,272 --> 00:48:59,411 Any powerful man in any city, yeah, women were just part of the thing. 694 00:48:59,411 --> 00:49:04,183 They come along with the power, they're attracted to the power. 695 00:49:04,183 --> 00:49:06,719 It's like putting a light on your porch, you're gonna get a lot of moths. 696 00:49:10,790 --> 00:49:13,793 I was born with a hereditary eye disease. 697 00:49:13,793 --> 00:49:17,296 I don't see anything up, down or to the sides, 698 00:49:17,296 --> 00:49:19,465 and it comes with total night blindness. 699 00:49:19,465 --> 00:49:23,703 So I've worked really hard not to ever look blind or act blind. 700 00:49:26,038 --> 00:49:30,576 I had gotten an audition, was going in to read for a part. 701 00:49:31,610 --> 00:49:33,145 He handed me the script and he said, 702 00:49:33,145 --> 00:49:35,113 "Do you think you can read those four pages for me?" 703 00:49:35,113 --> 00:49:37,516 And I said, "Yes, yes, I would be happy to." 704 00:49:38,551 --> 00:49:40,573 Here was I, meeting one of 705 00:49:40,573 --> 00:49:42,922 the most powerful men in Hollywood. 706 00:49:42,922 --> 00:49:45,224 I felt very flattered, 707 00:49:45,224 --> 00:49:48,694 understanding that this was a privilege. 708 00:49:49,595 --> 00:49:54,333 ‐ I was intimidated by him and his power. 709 00:49:54,333 --> 00:49:58,136 I mean, he's a repulsive man, physically, 710 00:49:58,136 --> 00:50:02,708 but I saw all these other actresses hanging around him, 711 00:50:02,708 --> 00:50:06,545 so I felt like it was something you did. 712 00:50:07,713 --> 00:50:10,249 He asked me if I wanted a ride home, 713 00:50:11,250 --> 00:50:14,119 and I said okay. 714 00:50:17,022 --> 00:50:18,524 Harvey invited me out to dinner. 715 00:50:20,292 --> 00:50:21,861 It was a wonderful night. 716 00:50:24,697 --> 00:50:27,633 Leonardo DiCaprio was at our table. He was lovely. 717 00:50:28,667 --> 00:50:33,272 The after‐party would continue at the hotel where Harvey was staying. 718 00:50:35,942 --> 00:50:37,643 And then I was... 719 00:50:38,844 --> 00:50:41,647 It was just me in the car and that's when I started to feel a little weird, 720 00:50:41,647 --> 00:50:45,785 like why... wouldn't I be carpooling with somebody? 721 00:50:47,052 --> 00:50:49,989 I was going to have dinner with him at the Beverly Hills Hotel 722 00:50:49,989 --> 00:50:53,793 and I arrived, front desk, "I'm here to see Harvey Weinstein, 723 00:50:53,793 --> 00:50:55,728 and, um, tell him I'll be in the restaurant." 724 00:50:55,728 --> 00:51:00,766 "No, Mr. Weinstein said would you go upstairs, he'll meet you upstairs." 725 00:51:00,766 --> 00:51:07,139 He said, "Can... I want‐‐ Can we have a drink upstairs at yours?" 726 00:51:07,139 --> 00:51:12,311 And I was too afraid to say no. 727 00:51:12,311 --> 00:51:14,380 We went up to my place 728 00:51:14,380 --> 00:51:20,319 and things got very uncomfortable, very fast. 729 00:51:20,319 --> 00:51:24,957 ‐ I was so happy because this, all I could think of is, yes, 730 00:51:24,957 --> 00:51:26,993 this is the launching of my career. 731 00:51:26,993 --> 00:51:31,163 I am going to be working for a huge major studio, 732 00:51:31,163 --> 00:51:34,967 a huge person in the industry, thank you, God. 733 00:51:37,937 --> 00:51:40,673 ‐ So obviously this is the part that's very hard to talk about, 734 00:51:40,673 --> 00:51:42,341 that I haven't talked about that much before. 735 00:51:42,341 --> 00:51:44,710 So I'll try, um... 736 00:51:44,710 --> 00:51:49,415 I felt, um, maybe like in shock a little bit. 737 00:51:51,017 --> 00:51:56,756 Um... and then I was in a situation that I couldn't get out of. 738 00:51:56,756 --> 00:51:58,724 ‐ "Wait a minute, wait a minute," and he stood up. 739 00:51:58,724 --> 00:52:00,860 He said, "One‐‐ One minute, one minute. 740 00:52:00,860 --> 00:52:02,327 I need one more thing from you." 741 00:52:02,327 --> 00:52:07,066 He said, "I want to see your breasts," 742 00:52:07,066 --> 00:52:10,036 and I said, "I'm sorry, I don't do that." 743 00:52:10,036 --> 00:52:13,205 ‐ "Oh, I have a stiff neck. 744 00:52:13,205 --> 00:52:16,809 Um, would you give me a shoulder massage?" 745 00:52:16,809 --> 00:52:20,178 ‐ "I can't move my neck," and I said, "Oh, God, that's terrible. 746 00:52:20,178 --> 00:52:23,482 "I should get you a masseuse. 747 00:52:23,482 --> 00:52:25,350 I have a great masseuse and I'm gonna call them." 748 00:52:25,350 --> 00:52:27,987 ‐ He disappears into the bedroom. 749 00:52:27,987 --> 00:52:31,023 ‐ He goes, "No, no, no, no, Rosanna." 750 00:52:31,023 --> 00:52:35,461 And he took my hand, and‐and like he grabbed my hand, 751 00:52:35,461 --> 00:52:39,465 and he had an erection, and I went "fuck." 752 00:52:39,465 --> 00:52:41,067 Um... backed up 753 00:52:41,067 --> 00:52:45,370 and... and he goes, "Rosanna, you're making a very big mistake." 754 00:52:45,370 --> 00:52:50,242 ‐ "It's your breasts. Do you know who I am?" 755 00:52:50,242 --> 00:52:53,012 And I said, "Yeah." 756 00:52:53,012 --> 00:52:55,614 And he said, "Do you know who I am?" 757 00:52:55,614 --> 00:52:58,751 ‐ I did the worst massage ever, 758 00:52:58,751 --> 00:53:03,355 and I could see that my massage 759 00:53:03,355 --> 00:53:07,459 had actually had more effect than I would have expected. 760 00:53:07,459 --> 00:53:11,959 That was when my survival instincts kicked in 761 00:53:11,959 --> 00:53:13,499 and I got the heck out of there. 762 00:53:13,499 --> 00:53:17,736 ‐ He said, "You know, I can make your career or I can break your career. 763 00:53:17,736 --> 00:53:21,607 I can make it where you will never work in this business again." 764 00:53:21,607 --> 00:53:25,210 And he said, "So show me your breasts." 765 00:53:25,210 --> 00:53:27,346 And I said, "No, I don't do that." 766 00:53:27,346 --> 00:53:29,982 And then he says, "The building's locked. 767 00:53:29,982 --> 00:53:32,118 "You can't get out that way. 768 00:53:32,118 --> 00:53:34,987 You can't get out at all unless you go down there." 769 00:53:34,987 --> 00:53:39,291 And he pointed past him at the end of the hall, 770 00:53:39,291 --> 00:53:42,195 which was a door, a stairwell door. 771 00:53:42,195 --> 00:53:43,863 ♪ 772 00:53:46,398 --> 00:53:48,701 I don't know if anybody is going to answer the door. 773 00:53:48,701 --> 00:53:52,404 I don't know if he's gonna come in looking for me. 774 00:53:52,404 --> 00:53:55,340 He knows that I have total night blindness. 775 00:53:55,340 --> 00:53:58,044 So he knew when I went down that stair, 776 00:53:58,044 --> 00:54:01,214 it was totally black, totally, totally, totally black. 777 00:54:02,648 --> 00:54:06,219 He... He pulled my dress up, 778 00:54:06,219 --> 00:54:09,521 and I was just terrified. 779 00:54:12,591 --> 00:54:14,894 I didn't kick and scream. 780 00:54:16,195 --> 00:54:20,499 The freeze thing kicks in, like you just want it to be over, 781 00:54:20,499 --> 00:54:22,902 and you don't want to be... 782 00:54:26,872 --> 00:54:30,176 You're‐‐ You're worried you're gonna get hurt, you know? 783 00:54:32,277 --> 00:54:36,348 ‐ When you read about rape, you read, "Okay, well, 784 00:54:36,348 --> 00:54:42,721 the girl says‐‐ screams 'No!' And she kicks and screams and..." 785 00:54:42,721 --> 00:54:44,957 But that's not exactly right. 786 00:54:44,957 --> 00:54:50,429 The way in which he overpowered me 787 00:54:51,597 --> 00:54:54,066 left me no way out. 788 00:54:56,301 --> 00:54:58,938 Um, so... 789 00:54:58,938 --> 00:55:02,641 So Harvey performed oral sex on me, 790 00:55:02,641 --> 00:55:06,512 um... forcibly... 791 00:55:09,182 --> 00:55:10,208 um... 792 00:55:12,384 --> 00:55:14,987 or... without my consent, 793 00:55:14,987 --> 00:55:17,589 um, and I didn't really know what to do, 794 00:55:17,589 --> 00:55:22,828 and I was terrified that he was going to rape me. 795 00:55:22,828 --> 00:55:25,364 I was really scared of being penetrated, 796 00:55:25,364 --> 00:55:26,632 of being... being raped, 797 00:55:26,632 --> 00:55:28,701 of having him on top of me, 798 00:55:28,701 --> 00:55:30,536 so I just froze. 799 00:55:32,437 --> 00:55:34,874 I definitely went somewhere else. 800 00:55:34,874 --> 00:55:38,911 It's almost like I was hovering over my body, 801 00:55:38,911 --> 00:55:40,813 and this thing was happening to me. 802 00:55:40,813 --> 00:55:43,415 ‐ This is happening and then it's going to be over, 803 00:55:43,415 --> 00:55:45,551 and then it's... 804 00:55:45,551 --> 00:55:47,586 I'm, I'll never, never think of‐‐ 805 00:55:47,586 --> 00:55:50,355 It's just, I'll cut it out of me somehow. 806 00:55:54,060 --> 00:55:58,564 And there was like a little Hispanic maintenance man, 807 00:55:58,564 --> 00:56:03,602 and first thing he asked me, "Are you coming from the fourth floor?" 808 00:56:05,404 --> 00:56:07,940 ‐ Just, you know, he‐‐ then he masturbated and... 809 00:56:10,609 --> 00:56:11,877 finished. 810 00:56:11,877 --> 00:56:17,683 ‐ I knew I was going to be in trouble because I didn't participate, I knew it. 811 00:56:17,683 --> 00:56:19,818 And then when I tried to tell people, 812 00:56:19,818 --> 00:56:21,520 they said, "You better keep your mouth shut." 813 00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:25,224 ‐ I didn't go to the police because I was terrified 814 00:56:25,224 --> 00:56:30,429 he would destroy me, and he would say it was consensual, 815 00:56:30,429 --> 00:56:33,599 and he would say that I was a whore and I was lying. 816 00:56:35,634 --> 00:56:38,237 What I remember is leaving, 817 00:56:38,237 --> 00:56:41,573 and at the bottom of the staircase were people that worked for him 818 00:56:43,109 --> 00:56:45,344 waiting to go in to see him. 819 00:56:47,813 --> 00:56:49,615 I don't know, I don't know what they thought. 820 00:56:49,615 --> 00:56:51,016 I don't know what they knew. 821 00:56:51,016 --> 00:56:53,018 ♪ 822 00:57:02,527 --> 00:57:04,930 I travelled with Harvey quite frequently. 823 00:57:04,930 --> 00:57:10,970 And there was this one time where I made a mistake. 824 00:57:10,970 --> 00:57:16,409 He said, "You're smart enough to be me and if you don't want to be me, 825 00:57:16,409 --> 00:57:18,043 "you're wasting your time. 826 00:57:18,043 --> 00:57:21,147 "Why don't you just go marry some fat rich Jewish fuck 827 00:57:21,147 --> 00:57:23,882 'cause maybe all you're good for is making babies." 828 00:57:29,155 --> 00:57:32,091 You're an employee, you're not in a position 829 00:57:32,091 --> 00:57:37,562 to question your boss's intentions. 830 00:57:42,568 --> 00:57:44,503 You know, I would have been fired. 831 00:57:44,503 --> 00:57:47,139 ‐ When Harvey was meeting with these women, he would send us all away, 832 00:57:47,139 --> 00:57:50,076 and we would get summoned back long after these women were gone. 833 00:57:50,076 --> 00:57:53,812 My take on these relationships was some sort of agreement had happened. 834 00:57:55,114 --> 00:57:57,417 There's this knocking on my hotel room door. 835 00:57:59,285 --> 00:58:03,689 There's this woman standing there and she's shaking and she's crying. 836 00:58:03,689 --> 00:58:08,894 And, you know, so I invite her in and I ask her what's wrong, 837 00:58:08,894 --> 00:58:12,564 and it took her a while to start talking, 838 00:58:12,564 --> 00:58:16,735 and she tells me, you know, 839 00:58:16,735 --> 00:58:21,140 that he had coerced her into giving him a massage, 840 00:58:21,140 --> 00:58:23,542 and he didn't listen to her say no. 841 00:58:23,542 --> 00:58:25,378 You have to do something. 842 00:58:29,949 --> 00:58:33,886 So I filed a complaint that would later be referred to as "the memo." 843 00:58:35,955 --> 00:58:39,358 And I hoped that by putting this, putting... 844 00:58:41,394 --> 00:58:44,529 the experiences I and others had in writing, 845 00:58:44,529 --> 00:58:47,933 the person reading the memo wouldn't be able to look away, 846 00:58:47,933 --> 00:58:50,869 that they couldn't unsee or unknow. 847 00:58:59,111 --> 00:59:03,182 I started in publicity, so I saw a lot about how the machine works 848 00:59:03,182 --> 00:59:05,184 in terms of burying scandals. 849 00:59:05,184 --> 00:59:08,553 The people higher up, closer to Harvey, in a business capacity, 850 00:59:08,553 --> 00:59:12,492 were the ones who dealt with the outside lawyers and, um, settlements. 851 00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:17,863 Being complicit doesn't necessarily mean 852 00:59:17,863 --> 00:59:20,166 you have to take part in it. 853 00:59:20,166 --> 00:59:23,869 By keeping quiet, I believe you're also complicit. 854 00:59:23,869 --> 00:59:27,173 Why would you do that? 855 00:59:27,173 --> 00:59:29,908 Money. 856 00:59:29,908 --> 00:59:31,243 Money power. 857 00:59:32,611 --> 00:59:35,714 It's much easier to just go with the flow. 858 00:59:35,714 --> 00:59:38,284 You know, keep everything the way it is. 859 00:59:38,284 --> 00:59:41,287 Don't rock the boat because everybody's getting a piece of it. 860 00:59:41,287 --> 00:59:42,721 ♪ 861 00:59:42,721 --> 00:59:46,758 When you think about the complicity of the Hollywood community, 862 00:59:46,758 --> 00:59:49,428 agents were guilty of that, 863 00:59:49,428 --> 00:59:52,131 as were some studio heads, as were some producers, 864 00:59:52,131 --> 00:59:56,569 as were some directors and actors and actresses and staffers. 865 01:00:05,610 --> 01:00:11,517 ‐ I feel so conflicted about my experience with Harvey. 866 01:00:14,619 --> 01:00:19,658 My life is better for having worked with Harvey Weinstein. 867 01:00:19,658 --> 01:00:22,161 Those of us who were on the Harvey train 868 01:00:22,161 --> 01:00:23,795 got a lot out of it. 869 01:00:23,795 --> 01:00:27,866 We were taken to all kinds of amazing places 870 01:00:27,866 --> 01:00:30,169 and allowed to do all kinds of amazing things, 871 01:00:30,169 --> 01:00:36,108 and now we all feel this survivor guilt 872 01:00:36,108 --> 01:00:39,512 for having experienced positive things 873 01:00:39,512 --> 01:00:41,581 and now realizing all the negative things 874 01:00:41,581 --> 01:00:45,184 that other people were experiencing at the same time. 875 01:00:47,686 --> 01:00:53,426 I never experienced Harvey being inappropriate with an actress, 876 01:00:53,426 --> 01:00:57,696 but I certainly heard rumors 877 01:00:57,696 --> 01:01:01,967 that there were actresses who were sleeping with Harvey to get better roles. 878 01:01:01,967 --> 01:01:03,936 ♪ 879 01:01:08,174 --> 01:01:10,610 ‐ There was always a kind of list of people 880 01:01:10,610 --> 01:01:13,946 who'd just gotten big roles who got gossiped about. 881 01:01:16,015 --> 01:01:21,053 The way the gossip was communicated was, "She slept with Harvey to get that part." 882 01:01:21,053 --> 01:01:22,622 It was never communicated as, 883 01:01:22,622 --> 01:01:24,690 "Oh yeah, you heard he slept with her." 884 01:01:24,690 --> 01:01:30,129 It was always the woman as the person who had done the action. 885 01:01:30,129 --> 01:01:34,534 "She blew Harvey, she fucked Harvey, she slept with Harvey to get that part." 886 01:01:34,534 --> 01:01:36,536 ♪ 887 01:01:38,538 --> 01:01:41,255 So a few years went by. 888 01:01:41,255 --> 01:01:45,545 I had, I thought, made my peace with what had happened 889 01:01:45,545 --> 01:01:47,246 and with how I'd handled myself. 890 01:01:47,246 --> 01:01:52,585 And I called every six months, 891 01:01:52,585 --> 01:01:56,455 or a year, just to say, "Hello, this is Erika Rosenbaum. 892 01:01:56,455 --> 01:01:58,824 "I just wanted to let you know I got a part, 893 01:01:58,824 --> 01:02:01,460 "um, and it went really well. 894 01:02:01,460 --> 01:02:04,196 Um, you asked me to keep in touch, so here I am." 895 01:02:07,733 --> 01:02:09,602 At one point, he was going to be 896 01:02:09,602 --> 01:02:15,040 at the Toronto International Film Festival, 897 01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:19,193 and he suggested that I take the time to stop in. 898 01:02:20,212 --> 01:02:23,849 I had been dealing with a very lovely assistant of his 899 01:02:23,849 --> 01:02:27,620 who eventually asked that I meet them, 900 01:02:27,620 --> 01:02:31,357 uh, in his room before dinner, because he had to go to a dinner 901 01:02:31,357 --> 01:02:34,360 or a screening or something, 902 01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:37,263 and, uh, and I would have to be squeezed in. 903 01:02:37,263 --> 01:02:41,734 That seemed reasonable to me, despite what had happened. 904 01:02:41,734 --> 01:02:44,270 Um, I guess because I had made clear 905 01:02:44,270 --> 01:02:48,507 that I was not that kind of actress, 906 01:02:48,507 --> 01:02:50,008 whatever that means. 907 01:02:50,008 --> 01:02:52,010 ♪ 908 01:02:54,046 --> 01:02:56,682 The young assistant opened the door. 909 01:02:56,682 --> 01:02:59,385 She looked a little flustered. 910 01:02:59,385 --> 01:03:02,321 Um, and she left, 911 01:03:02,321 --> 01:03:04,256 and she closed the door behind her. 912 01:03:13,031 --> 01:03:18,003 He came out of the bathroom and he wasn't wearing any pants. 913 01:03:18,003 --> 01:03:21,106 He was wearing a shirt that just covered his hips. 914 01:03:23,008 --> 01:03:24,644 And I was very... 915 01:03:27,212 --> 01:03:29,982 put off, as you can imagine. 916 01:03:31,049 --> 01:03:34,320 Uh, and also just nervous 917 01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:36,622 because he was clearly distraught about something 918 01:03:36,622 --> 01:03:39,358 that had nothing to do with my presence there. 919 01:03:41,694 --> 01:03:46,499 Um, so right away I said, "It's a bad time. 920 01:03:46,499 --> 01:03:49,435 "I can see you're on your way out. 921 01:03:50,803 --> 01:03:53,305 Let's do this another day." 922 01:03:53,305 --> 01:03:58,678 And I backed towards the door, and he got quite annoyed 923 01:03:58,678 --> 01:04:02,748 and said, "You're here. 924 01:04:02,748 --> 01:04:07,986 Take‐take the five minutes and... and let's talk for a second." 925 01:04:07,986 --> 01:04:09,522 And he was like, he said, "Come with me," 926 01:04:09,522 --> 01:04:11,290 and he asked me to follow him to the bathroom, 927 01:04:11,290 --> 01:04:17,229 and I said, "No, no, no, I mean, please, this is not a good time, I'll come back." 928 01:04:18,330 --> 01:04:20,232 Um... 929 01:04:20,232 --> 01:04:22,201 And he insisted that I stay. 930 01:04:24,069 --> 01:04:29,041 And so, although my heart was pounding and... 931 01:04:30,376 --> 01:04:36,148 I felt like I was in a dangerous place, I stayed. 932 01:04:36,148 --> 01:04:38,150 Because I thought leaving would be worse. 933 01:04:42,555 --> 01:04:44,657 I followed him into the washroom. 934 01:04:52,598 --> 01:04:55,100 The toilet seat had been broken, 935 01:04:55,100 --> 01:04:56,803 like it had been smashed. 936 01:04:56,803 --> 01:05:00,606 It was a... a solid toilet seat 937 01:05:00,606 --> 01:05:03,743 that had been broken into three pieces, 938 01:05:03,743 --> 01:05:05,678 and there was blood on the seat. 939 01:05:08,247 --> 01:05:12,885 He asked me to face the mirror and said, "I just want to look at you." 940 01:05:13,919 --> 01:05:18,658 And he put his hand on the back of my neck 941 01:05:18,658 --> 01:05:20,459 and sort of held me in place, 942 01:05:20,459 --> 01:05:23,629 staring at my own face in the mirror, 943 01:05:23,629 --> 01:05:28,434 and he started to touch himself under his shirt behind me. 944 01:05:32,705 --> 01:05:37,209 And I remember that... 945 01:05:37,209 --> 01:05:41,146 like it's a scene from a bad movie. 946 01:05:41,146 --> 01:05:44,082 Because it's hard to believe that that was me. 947 01:05:45,918 --> 01:05:48,020 But I remember looking at myself in the mirror 948 01:05:48,020 --> 01:05:51,357 and seeing him over my right shoulder 949 01:05:54,293 --> 01:05:57,029 and I remember staring at him and thinking, 950 01:05:57,029 --> 01:06:00,966 if I can just stand still 951 01:06:02,568 --> 01:06:04,603 that maybe it would all go away 952 01:06:04,603 --> 01:06:09,074 or maybe I would disappear or something. 953 01:06:10,342 --> 01:06:13,312 I guess I was just too shocked to move. 954 01:06:16,348 --> 01:06:20,519 And I noticed that he had blood on his hand. 955 01:06:24,523 --> 01:06:28,828 And I found a way 956 01:06:28,828 --> 01:06:32,998 to say that I had to go, 957 01:06:32,998 --> 01:06:35,334 and I don't think he finished. 958 01:06:35,334 --> 01:06:37,336 ♪ 959 01:06:58,056 --> 01:06:59,825 Give us the five seconds! 960 01:07:02,027 --> 01:07:04,530 I was a reporter at a weekly newspaper in New York 961 01:07:04,530 --> 01:07:05,998 called the New York Observer. 962 01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:12,170 I was interested in the cultural changes happening within Manhattan, 963 01:07:12,170 --> 01:07:15,942 and Miramax was at the very center of those cultural changes. 964 01:07:22,281 --> 01:07:24,984 You've been everything to me, O. 965 01:07:24,984 --> 01:07:28,353 To me, you're not my friend, man, you're my brother. 966 01:07:28,353 --> 01:07:30,422 And when a brother is wronged, so am I. 967 01:07:30,422 --> 01:07:34,994 Harvey's company, Miramax's brother company Dimension, 968 01:07:34,994 --> 01:07:37,730 had made a movie that was an update on Othello. 969 01:07:37,730 --> 01:07:39,031 It was called O, 970 01:07:39,031 --> 01:07:42,768 and it had a terrific cast of stars that were very popular at the moment, 971 01:07:42,768 --> 01:07:46,806 including Mekhi Phifer and Josh Hartnett. 972 01:07:46,806 --> 01:07:50,142 ‐ I've spent the last few days going over every possible detail, every angle. 973 01:07:50,142 --> 01:07:53,713 ‐ It had everything about it that should have been released to a great fanfare, 974 01:07:53,713 --> 01:07:56,515 but the company was holding it and they were holding it 975 01:07:56,515 --> 01:08:00,185 during the presidential campaign of Al Gore and Joe Lieberman. 976 01:08:02,287 --> 01:08:05,725 They were running this campaign that had this weird reactionary streak 977 01:08:05,725 --> 01:08:08,227 of disapproving of violence in the media. 978 01:08:09,461 --> 01:08:13,666 O was a very violent high school drama. 979 01:08:13,666 --> 01:08:15,133 He soars above us. 980 01:08:15,133 --> 01:08:18,437 The makers of the movie believed that it was being held back 981 01:08:18,437 --> 01:08:21,507 because Harvey was so involved in the Gore‐Lieberman campaign. 982 01:08:21,507 --> 01:08:24,543 He was hoping that the amount of money that he was giving 983 01:08:24,543 --> 01:08:27,914 was going to result in some kind of political payoff. 984 01:08:27,914 --> 01:08:29,782 I needed to get a comment from Harvey. 985 01:08:29,782 --> 01:08:32,919 So my editor sent me to a party he was hosting 986 01:08:32,919 --> 01:08:36,221 to accompany a repor‐‐ a fellow reporter 987 01:08:36,221 --> 01:08:38,624 who was working as a gossip columnist that night. 988 01:08:38,624 --> 01:08:41,094 He also happened to be somebody I was dating at the time. 989 01:08:48,133 --> 01:08:50,263 Harvey was throwing a party 990 01:08:50,263 --> 01:08:53,205 for a former MTV VJ 991 01:08:53,205 --> 01:08:56,408 named Karen Duffy, who went by "Duff." 992 01:08:56,408 --> 01:09:00,379 And I remember walking in behind Harvey and his entourage 993 01:09:00,379 --> 01:09:03,382 and then going and saying, "Rebecca, you go do your thing." 994 01:09:07,586 --> 01:09:10,790 I walked right up to Harvey with my tape recorder out and said, 995 01:09:10,790 --> 01:09:13,325 "I have a question about the movie O." 996 01:09:14,794 --> 01:09:17,496 And he said to me, "Oh, that's my brother's movie, 997 01:09:17,496 --> 01:09:20,733 I don't have anything to do with that," and then he walked away. 998 01:09:20,733 --> 01:09:23,736 And I thought to myself, "Well, that's a nothing comment, 999 01:09:23,736 --> 01:09:26,238 and I don't believe it," but I got the comment, 1000 01:09:26,238 --> 01:09:29,108 which is what I knew I needed to do in order to be able to publish my story. 1001 01:09:31,944 --> 01:09:34,279 I was sort of putting my tape recorder away. 1002 01:09:34,279 --> 01:09:36,983 I'd done the one job I had there that night, 1003 01:09:36,983 --> 01:09:39,752 at which point suddenly Harvey came back to me, 1004 01:09:39,752 --> 01:09:43,089 and he said, "You can't use that." 1005 01:09:43,089 --> 01:09:46,391 I said, "What do you mean?" And he said, "That was off the record." 1006 01:09:50,429 --> 01:09:52,937 He started to grab for my tape recorder. 1007 01:09:52,937 --> 01:09:57,603 I just pressed "record" and held it up to his face, 1008 01:09:57,603 --> 01:09:59,471 and that enraged him more. 1009 01:09:59,471 --> 01:10:03,176 ‐ And then the temperature in the room turns, 1010 01:10:03,176 --> 01:10:05,511 and all of a sudden I see something go off in Harvey, 1011 01:10:05,511 --> 01:10:09,015 and I see like, you know, initially some maybe gesticulating, 1012 01:10:09,015 --> 01:10:13,786 and then I hear him yelling at the top of his lungs, 1013 01:10:14,787 --> 01:10:17,589 "Who let this fucking cunt into this party?" 1014 01:10:17,589 --> 01:10:19,558 ‐ And then he was sort of half screaming at me 1015 01:10:19,558 --> 01:10:20,826 and half screaming at the rest of the room, 1016 01:10:20,826 --> 01:10:23,595 "Get this cunt out of here, this cunt shouldn't be here! 1017 01:10:23,595 --> 01:10:26,532 This‐‐ What is this bitch doing here? Who let this bitch in?" 1018 01:10:26,532 --> 01:10:30,235 ‐ This man is screaming at the top of his lungs 1019 01:10:30,235 --> 01:10:32,270 at a 23‐year‐old woman who's asking 1020 01:10:32,270 --> 01:10:33,973 a very reasonable question about his movie, 1021 01:10:33,973 --> 01:10:35,507 and he's calling her a "cunt." 1022 01:10:35,507 --> 01:10:38,510 ‐ The thing that scared me was that it felt like anything was possible. 1023 01:10:38,510 --> 01:10:41,214 Like there was no norm and no rule 1024 01:10:41,214 --> 01:10:43,649 that was gonna say this is gonna end okay. 1025 01:10:44,050 --> 01:10:47,753 And my colleague and boyfriend, Andrew, came over 1026 01:10:47,753 --> 01:10:49,922 and said, "Harvey, Harvey, I'm here to talk to you. 1027 01:10:49,922 --> 01:10:51,224 "I'm, I‐‐ She came with me. 1028 01:10:51,224 --> 01:10:53,492 "I'm the reporter who's assigned to talk about this party. 1029 01:10:53,492 --> 01:10:55,494 I want to hear about Karen Duffy." 1030 01:10:55,494 --> 01:10:58,797 And I kind of went... 1031 01:10:58,797 --> 01:11:02,601 I... remember I got our bags, 1032 01:11:02,601 --> 01:11:05,171 put my bags, put the bags over the shoulder, 1033 01:11:05,171 --> 01:11:07,306 and I looked at Andrew and I was like, 1034 01:11:07,306 --> 01:11:09,341 "Wrap it up, we're gonna go, time to go." 1035 01:11:09,341 --> 01:11:12,478 ‐ And then I stopped, and I was like, this is absurd. 1036 01:11:12,478 --> 01:11:15,181 I said, "Harvey, we have treated you well. 1037 01:11:15,181 --> 01:11:19,485 "You have no right to call somebody like that that name 1038 01:11:19,485 --> 01:11:23,022 in front of these people. You can't do that." 1039 01:11:23,022 --> 01:11:28,661 ‐: No, I don't need an apology, we need to leave. 1040 01:11:28,661 --> 01:11:32,098 And what happened was, as soon as Andrew said, 1041 01:11:32,098 --> 01:11:36,368 "You owe her an apology," he went‐‐ it's like the switch flipped back. 1042 01:11:36,368 --> 01:11:38,104 ‐ He said... 1043 01:11:49,248 --> 01:11:52,351 ‐ And it's at that moment he looks down 1044 01:11:52,351 --> 01:11:54,153 and I think he sees that my recorder is going, 1045 01:11:54,153 --> 01:11:57,056 and he realizes that I've just got like the money quote of all time. 1046 01:11:57,056 --> 01:11:59,058 ♪ 1047 01:12:02,995 --> 01:12:05,064 He started screaming. 1048 01:12:05,064 --> 01:12:08,201 He pushes him down the couple of steps and Andrew falls backwards. 1049 01:12:08,201 --> 01:12:11,204 ‐ And everybody I think is aghast, looking like, what the hell is‐‐ 1050 01:12:11,204 --> 01:12:15,674 The host of the party is like wrestling with some junior reporter 1051 01:12:15,674 --> 01:12:17,576 over a tape recorder, and we go back and forth, 1052 01:12:17,576 --> 01:12:19,078 and he's intent that he's gonna get this thing, 1053 01:12:19,078 --> 01:12:22,014 and I'm like, I'm not going to let him get this tape recorder 1054 01:12:22,014 --> 01:12:23,716 'cause it has the best quote ever. 1055 01:12:23,716 --> 01:12:26,252 ‐ He grabs Andrew and pulls him through the party, 1056 01:12:26,252 --> 01:12:29,655 out the glass door, onto Sixth Avenue in Manhattan, 1057 01:12:29,655 --> 01:12:34,126 and puts him in a headlock and starts pounding the top of his head. 1058 01:12:34,126 --> 01:12:37,730 ‐ A crowd has gathered around us 1059 01:12:37,730 --> 01:12:40,399 and it's like, you know, this schoolyard fight or something, 1060 01:12:40,399 --> 01:12:43,736 and I just remember how surreal it was. 1061 01:12:43,736 --> 01:12:46,705 I was thinking to myself, can this possibly be re‐‐ 1062 01:12:46,705 --> 01:12:50,042 Does Harvey Weinstein really have me in a headlock? 1063 01:12:50,042 --> 01:12:53,846 ‐ The flashes are going off, and there are a million pictures being taken. 1064 01:12:53,846 --> 01:12:56,815 ‐ How can this not be the cover of, you know, the New York Post, 1065 01:12:56,815 --> 01:12:58,184 the New York Daily News? 1066 01:12:58,184 --> 01:12:59,451 I mean, it was like the money sh‐‐ 1067 01:12:59,451 --> 01:13:03,289 It's the shot that any tabloid editor would be dreaming of. 1068 01:13:03,289 --> 01:13:05,524 Think about it, who wouldn't put that on the cover? 1069 01:13:11,130 --> 01:13:13,799 I never saw a photograph from that night. 1070 01:13:14,867 --> 01:13:16,568 I've never to this day. 1071 01:13:16,568 --> 01:13:20,672 I haven't seen a photograph, and I know there were hundreds taken. 1072 01:13:20,672 --> 01:13:23,075 ‐ This is like... magic. 1073 01:13:23,075 --> 01:13:26,946 This is like, you know, Tinseltown magic. 1074 01:13:26,946 --> 01:13:29,448 ‐ My editor in chief, 1075 01:13:29,448 --> 01:13:32,184 a man I deeply respected, 1076 01:13:33,452 --> 01:13:36,122 said, "Do not offer comment on this, Rebecca. 1077 01:13:36,122 --> 01:13:41,927 Harvey's never going anywhere," he said. "Harvey's Russia, don't write about it." 1078 01:13:41,927 --> 01:13:45,697 ‐ The lesson I learned was... 1079 01:13:45,697 --> 01:13:47,766 as great as a line as, 1080 01:13:47,766 --> 01:13:52,537 "I'm glad I'm the fucking sheriff of this shit ass fucking town" is, 1081 01:13:53,572 --> 01:13:55,674 it doesn't work unless you really are the sheriff, 1082 01:13:55,674 --> 01:13:56,942 and he was at that point. 1083 01:13:56,942 --> 01:13:59,544 He... He could do anything. 1084 01:13:59,544 --> 01:14:02,181 ‐ And no‐‐ and no cars, no nothing. 1085 01:14:02,181 --> 01:14:05,284 Otherwise, never any of my shit ever. 1086 01:14:05,284 --> 01:14:08,620 Okay? Or I'll fucking be all over your asses. Get outta here. Go. 1087 01:14:08,620 --> 01:14:10,222 All right, have a good night, man. 1088 01:14:10,222 --> 01:14:14,193 ‐ If I see one car, me and Bob De Niro will take care of it but good. 1089 01:14:14,193 --> 01:14:16,262 Have a good night, man. ‐ You'll never work in this town. 1090 01:14:16,262 --> 01:14:18,063 You'll never sell a fucking photograph anywhere. 1091 01:14:18,063 --> 01:14:19,064 All right, man. 1092 01:14:19,731 --> 01:14:21,734 ♪ 1093 01:14:26,339 --> 01:14:29,175 Mickey Mouse divorcing a long‐time partner. 1094 01:14:29,175 --> 01:14:30,609 Disney parting ways 1095 01:14:30,609 --> 01:14:34,080 with Miramax co‐founders Bob and Harvey Weinstein. 1096 01:14:34,080 --> 01:14:37,383 While the Weinsteins are walking away with $140 million 1097 01:14:37,383 --> 01:14:41,354 and the Dimension Films label, they'll have to give up Miramax. 1098 01:14:44,590 --> 01:14:47,492 They lost that name, which meant something to them: 1099 01:14:47,492 --> 01:14:49,561 "Miramax," Miriam and Max. 1100 01:14:49,561 --> 01:14:51,030 It was a huge loss. 1101 01:14:51,030 --> 01:14:53,599 They lost that library of films that they had created. 1102 01:14:54,867 --> 01:14:56,402 That's their legacy. 1103 01:14:58,537 --> 01:15:00,473 When you sell, you know, you lose your power. 1104 01:15:00,473 --> 01:15:04,143 They're not the first ones to sell in Hollywood and live to regret. 1105 01:15:04,143 --> 01:15:06,145 ♪ 1106 01:15:10,616 --> 01:15:14,287 So this begins the path to our new exciting venture 1107 01:15:14,287 --> 01:15:16,755 without mom and dad's name. 1108 01:15:16,755 --> 01:15:18,624 We still own the name "Dimension" 1109 01:15:18,624 --> 01:15:21,327 and, and if anybody can come up with a better name 1110 01:15:21,327 --> 01:15:23,629 than the Weinstein Company, we're all ears. 1111 01:15:25,465 --> 01:15:27,633 ‐ Nothing's better than the Weinstein brothers, 1112 01:15:27,633 --> 01:15:29,368 so the name is great. 1113 01:15:29,368 --> 01:15:32,138 ‐ I mean, that company, they were much diminished 1114 01:15:32,138 --> 01:15:35,540 and they were trying to sort of commit more to television. 1115 01:15:35,540 --> 01:15:37,709 They were in trouble and everybody knew it. 1116 01:15:37,709 --> 01:15:39,711 ♪ 1117 01:15:42,781 --> 01:15:45,518 After they left Disney, they went through something like 1118 01:15:45,518 --> 01:15:49,955 1.2 billion dollars that was bank money and bonds and investments 1119 01:15:49,955 --> 01:15:54,660 from investment banks in New York, and, uh, that writing was on the wall. 1120 01:15:58,464 --> 01:16:00,466 ♪ 1121 01:16:11,877 --> 01:16:15,147 I was working on a story about the dark side of Hollywood. 1122 01:16:16,115 --> 01:16:18,117 It was gonna be an anthology of different issues, 1123 01:16:18,117 --> 01:16:21,053 from race to sexual harassment. 1124 01:16:21,053 --> 01:16:22,888 In the course of my reporting, 1125 01:16:22,888 --> 01:16:28,827 I began to find the stories came back over and over again to one guy. 1126 01:16:28,827 --> 01:16:31,730 Harvey Weinstein was known to be a bully, 1127 01:16:31,730 --> 01:16:36,435 but very quickly when you scratched the surface of those bullying charges, 1128 01:16:36,435 --> 01:16:39,872 you started to hear stories about sexual misconduct as well. 1129 01:16:39,872 --> 01:16:45,044 And I realized, wow, this is a huge, huge story. 1130 01:16:45,044 --> 01:16:48,214 ‐ So it's my incredible honor to present this award, 1131 01:16:48,214 --> 01:16:50,916 uh, to Planned Parenthood's Champion of the Century, 1132 01:16:50,916 --> 01:16:53,986 my friend, my heroine, Hillary Rodham Clinton. 1133 01:17:02,127 --> 01:17:03,962 I was writing about Hillary Clinton 1134 01:17:03,962 --> 01:17:07,766 after the 2016 presidential loss in the spring of 2017. 1135 01:17:10,069 --> 01:17:11,036 And... 1136 01:17:11,770 --> 01:17:14,574 I saw Harvey for the first time in years. 1137 01:17:17,743 --> 01:17:22,881 I almost couldn't believe, this guy who had been so familiar to me. 1138 01:17:22,881 --> 01:17:27,386 And I thought, your power is waning. 1139 01:17:27,386 --> 01:17:30,590 Like, your power is on the downswing, 1140 01:17:30,590 --> 01:17:34,659 but you're still... working it. 1141 01:17:35,961 --> 01:17:39,731 You're still wielding it, whatever power you have, you're here. 1142 01:17:39,731 --> 01:17:41,233 What are you doing here? 1143 01:17:43,802 --> 01:17:46,872 But then I was looking at him with all these powerful women, 1144 01:17:46,872 --> 01:17:47,973 feminist women. 1145 01:17:49,509 --> 01:17:54,213 You're putting your money toward protecting yourself, 1146 01:17:54,213 --> 01:17:56,382 positioning yourself as a feminist, 1147 01:17:56,382 --> 01:18:01,153 positioning yourself as an ally to powerful women. 1148 01:18:01,153 --> 01:18:03,088 This is all part of what your deal is 1149 01:18:03,088 --> 01:18:05,691 and how you've managed to suppress all this. 1150 01:18:06,859 --> 01:18:10,996 I just stopped thinking that my story 1151 01:18:10,996 --> 01:18:14,033 or the evidence from it was ever going to be important to anybody 1152 01:18:14,033 --> 01:18:16,854 because nobody was ever gonna win against this guy. 1153 01:18:16,854 --> 01:18:18,937 ♪ 1154 01:18:21,974 --> 01:18:26,212 When I first started, women thought it would never emerge, 1155 01:18:26,212 --> 01:18:28,414 let alone emerge and have an impact. 1156 01:18:31,551 --> 01:18:33,619 One of the striking reoccurring themes 1157 01:18:33,619 --> 01:18:36,222 in my conversations with sources in this story 1158 01:18:36,222 --> 01:18:40,192 was just how terrified they were of things that sounded like movie plots. 1159 01:18:42,395 --> 01:18:44,230 Spies following them, 1160 01:18:44,230 --> 01:18:46,632 infiltrating their ways into people's lives. 1161 01:18:46,632 --> 01:18:51,370 And, as I myself started getting strange and threatening calls, 1162 01:18:51,370 --> 01:18:53,406 this was the absolute truth. 1163 01:18:57,776 --> 01:19:02,114 I think for years Harvey Weinstein had heard that certain actresses 1164 01:19:02,114 --> 01:19:04,149 and certain people in the industry might go on record 1165 01:19:04,149 --> 01:19:07,286 and try and accuse him of anything from sexual assault 1166 01:19:07,286 --> 01:19:08,621 to harassment and bullying, 1167 01:19:08,621 --> 01:19:12,224 and it was a kind of fire fighting exercise in, on a low level, 1168 01:19:12,224 --> 01:19:14,760 go after one person and get them to sign an NDA. 1169 01:19:20,966 --> 01:19:25,705 But in 2016, he'd obviously got wind of something much bigger. 1170 01:19:25,705 --> 01:19:28,774 There was now a coalition of people coming together, 1171 01:19:28,774 --> 01:19:31,544 willing to go en masse on record. 1172 01:19:31,544 --> 01:19:34,380 That's why he enlisted a whole army of people, 1173 01:19:34,380 --> 01:19:36,382 whether journalists, whether lawyers 1174 01:19:36,382 --> 01:19:38,684 or intelligence firms, 'cause he knew this was the big one. 1175 01:19:40,586 --> 01:19:42,388 Harvey was indeed using 1176 01:19:42,388 --> 01:19:46,158 an array of high‐powered private investigation firms, 1177 01:19:46,158 --> 01:19:51,664 most exotically, uh, a firm predominantly run by former members of the Massad, 1178 01:19:51,664 --> 01:19:53,132 called Black Cube. 1179 01:19:58,771 --> 01:20:01,340 This is the original contract between Black Cube 1180 01:20:01,340 --> 01:20:03,643 and Harvey Weinstein's law firm. 1181 01:20:04,510 --> 01:20:07,913 And "The primary objective of the project is to identify the entities 1182 01:20:07,913 --> 01:20:10,516 "behind the negative campaign against the Client 1183 01:20:10,516 --> 01:20:13,185 and support the Client's efforts to put a stop to it." 1184 01:20:16,322 --> 01:20:18,824 This is the list of targets drawn up by Harvey Weinstein 1185 01:20:18,824 --> 01:20:24,029 of people he suspects might be cooperating with the negative stories about him, 1186 01:20:24,029 --> 01:20:26,932 and this is a profile drawn up by Black Cube, 1187 01:20:26,932 --> 01:20:29,268 uh, profiling Rosanna Arquette. 1188 01:20:29,268 --> 01:20:31,970 "The Client suspects that Rosanna is involved in the campaign 1189 01:20:31,970 --> 01:20:35,240 "being waged against him by disseminating fictitious allegations 1190 01:20:35,240 --> 01:20:37,843 about him to media sources." 1191 01:20:37,843 --> 01:20:41,246 This was an extraordinarily expensive operation. 1192 01:20:41,246 --> 01:20:44,149 You're talking about lawyer after lawyer 1193 01:20:44,149 --> 01:20:47,085 at the highest‐paid echelon of the legal profession, 1194 01:20:47,085 --> 01:20:49,021 and they're hiring, in turn, 1195 01:20:49,021 --> 01:20:52,525 the priciest private investigation firms in the world. 1196 01:20:52,525 --> 01:20:56,562 The Black Cube contracts alone ate up hundreds of thousands of dollars. 1197 01:20:56,562 --> 01:21:01,400 Harvey Weinstein was placing all of his resources 1198 01:21:01,400 --> 01:21:04,437 into stopping these women and the reporters looking at the story. 1199 01:21:04,437 --> 01:21:06,439 ♪ 1200 01:21:10,476 --> 01:21:14,046 Harvey and his private investigators and lawyers expended a lot of energy 1201 01:21:14,046 --> 01:21:17,784 digging up photos of him looking friendly with women after alleged assaults. 1202 01:21:20,519 --> 01:21:25,758 This is a particularly nasty tactic to try to discredit women, 1203 01:21:25,758 --> 01:21:31,397 when the fact is, it is a very typical feature of sexual assault 1204 01:21:31,397 --> 01:21:34,700 that women are photographed in a friendly context 1205 01:21:34,700 --> 01:21:37,603 with their alleged attacker afterwards. 1206 01:21:37,603 --> 01:21:41,173 Very often people bury their trauma and they keep working 1207 01:21:41,173 --> 01:21:43,643 and they keep on walking those red carpets. 1208 01:21:48,614 --> 01:21:51,450 You put on a happy face, 1209 01:21:51,450 --> 01:21:53,118 but inside you're dying. 1210 01:21:54,386 --> 01:21:59,525 It made me feel like I had to reclaim my sexuality all over again. 1211 01:21:59,525 --> 01:22:06,365 So I wanted to do photo shoots where I could feel beautiful 1212 01:22:06,365 --> 01:22:09,301 and take it back, 1213 01:22:09,301 --> 01:22:12,070 take back what I believe he stole from me. 1214 01:22:18,344 --> 01:22:21,313 Some of the other women might look at me and think, 1215 01:22:21,313 --> 01:22:24,082 "Something's wrong with her." 1216 01:22:24,082 --> 01:22:28,921 Like, "Harvey could use that against her," or something. 1217 01:22:32,725 --> 01:22:37,056 I wanted to feel desirable again. 1218 01:22:37,056 --> 01:22:40,232 People knowing that this pig had violated me, 1219 01:22:42,668 --> 01:22:47,807 that this monster had been inside me. 1220 01:22:57,516 --> 01:23:00,419 I was being told, "You still need more women, 1221 01:23:00,419 --> 01:23:03,823 these women are crazy, you need more credible women," 1222 01:23:03,823 --> 01:23:06,893 over and over and over again, no matter how many women were saying 1223 01:23:06,893 --> 01:23:08,394 this had happened to them. 1224 01:23:09,729 --> 01:23:12,197 Harvey Weinstein. 1225 01:23:12,197 --> 01:23:13,215 I had to move out of my home. 1226 01:23:13,215 --> 01:23:14,533 I was being followed. 1227 01:23:14,533 --> 01:23:17,469 I had many of the same agents that went after these women 1228 01:23:17,469 --> 01:23:20,005 coming after me. 1229 01:23:20,005 --> 01:23:25,411 Harvey Weinstein was inundating my representatives with legal threats. 1230 01:23:25,411 --> 01:23:28,313 I wondered whether I would be able to get it over the finish line 1231 01:23:28,313 --> 01:23:30,649 or whether I would let down all of those women who had done 1232 01:23:30,649 --> 01:23:33,619 this incredibly brave thing trying to expose this. 1233 01:23:34,854 --> 01:23:38,490 So, it was a tremendous breakthrough moment 1234 01:23:38,490 --> 01:23:42,396 to hear Harvey Weinstein on that NYPD recording. 1235 01:24:30,242 --> 01:24:33,078 Once I had that recording in hand, 1236 01:24:33,078 --> 01:24:35,614 it was clear to me that I couldn't stop. 1237 01:24:37,249 --> 01:24:39,284 There was a smoking gun here. 1238 01:24:40,953 --> 01:24:45,391 So I went to Ken Auletta, a wonderful writer at The New Yorker. 1239 01:24:45,391 --> 01:24:48,293 Ronan Farrow, who I did not know, 1240 01:24:48,293 --> 01:24:51,630 called me up in the spring of 2017, 1241 01:24:51,630 --> 01:24:55,935 and he said, "I've read your 2002 profile on Harvey. 1242 01:24:55,935 --> 01:24:58,704 Let me tell you what I'm doing." 1243 01:24:58,704 --> 01:25:01,347 He said to me that he had eight witnesses, 1244 01:25:01,347 --> 01:25:04,176 people who were willing to go on the record. 1245 01:25:04,176 --> 01:25:06,478 That's great. I mean, I could not do that. 1246 01:25:06,478 --> 01:25:09,248 And he had the police tape from Ambra. 1247 01:25:09,248 --> 01:25:12,618 Please come in. I'm a very‐‐ I'm a famous guy. 1248 01:25:12,618 --> 01:25:15,721 I'm feeling very uncomfortable right now. - Please come in now. 1249 01:25:15,721 --> 01:25:18,657 And in one minute. And if you wanna leave when the guy comes with my jacket‐‐ 1250 01:25:18,657 --> 01:25:20,927 Why yesterday you touch my breast? 1251 01:25:20,927 --> 01:25:23,195 Oh, please, I'm sorry, just come on in, I'm used to that. 1252 01:25:23,195 --> 01:25:27,033 I think the moment the New Yorker team heard that audio 1253 01:25:27,033 --> 01:25:31,003 and understood the number of testimonials that we had about this, 1254 01:25:31,003 --> 01:25:33,205 they said, "Okay, let's go to the mat. 1255 01:25:33,205 --> 01:25:35,808 Let's get as much as we can together as fast as we can." 1256 01:25:38,077 --> 01:25:40,412 I would call Ronan or e‐mail him, 1257 01:25:40,412 --> 01:25:43,783 I'd say, "What are you doing? Wh‐Why isn't this story out?" 1258 01:25:43,783 --> 01:25:45,551 And he said, "Well, we're still working on the story," 1259 01:25:45,551 --> 01:25:50,689 and then I hear that The New York Times is doing a story. 1260 01:25:56,829 --> 01:26:00,800 We had been working around the clock for days and weeks 1261 01:26:00,800 --> 01:26:03,201 and had barely slept. 1262 01:26:04,436 --> 01:26:08,774 You know, when you are so thick deep in a, an investigation 1263 01:26:08,774 --> 01:26:11,710 and you're right about to finally publish the story, 1264 01:26:11,710 --> 01:26:14,413 you can really lose sight of what you've got 1265 01:26:14,413 --> 01:26:16,149 and what the reaction is gonna be to it. 1266 01:26:19,718 --> 01:26:21,821 Our biggest fear over the summer 1267 01:26:21,821 --> 01:26:23,555 was not of Harvey Weinstein 1268 01:26:23,555 --> 01:26:27,059 or of the paid spies he used on us 1269 01:26:27,059 --> 01:26:29,829 or about the efforts at intimidation. 1270 01:26:29,829 --> 01:26:31,497 It was the fear of failure 1271 01:26:31,497 --> 01:26:34,266 and the fear that we were going to fail to get the story, 1272 01:26:34,266 --> 01:26:36,502 and we were going to have to live with this knowledge 1273 01:26:36,502 --> 01:26:38,971 off the record for the rest of our lives. 1274 01:26:47,013 --> 01:26:49,448 People were really scared to talk. 1275 01:26:49,448 --> 01:26:52,618 Instead there was this kind of miasma of rumors. 1276 01:26:52,618 --> 01:26:55,554 There were public jokes in pop culture. 1277 01:26:55,554 --> 01:26:56,622 ‐ Congratulations. 1278 01:26:56,622 --> 01:27:00,126 You five ladies no longer have to pretend to be attracted to Harvey Weinstein. 1279 01:27:01,560 --> 01:27:04,663 ‐ Oh please, I'm not afraid of anyone in show business. 1280 01:27:04,663 --> 01:27:07,666 I turned down intercourse with Harvey Weinstein 1281 01:27:07,666 --> 01:27:10,335 on no less than three occasions‐‐ out of five. 1282 01:27:10,335 --> 01:27:12,805 Do you have any advice for a young girl moving to Hollywood? 1283 01:27:37,730 --> 01:27:39,732 ♪ 1284 01:27:50,542 --> 01:27:55,614 I am a 28‐year‐old woman trying to make a living and a career. 1285 01:27:55,614 --> 01:27:59,518 Harvey Weinstein is a 64‐year‐old world‐famous man 1286 01:27:59,518 --> 01:28:01,854 and this is his company. 1287 01:28:01,854 --> 01:28:05,124 Zero, 1288 01:28:05,124 --> 01:28:08,094 10. 1289 01:28:13,599 --> 01:28:16,135 When I wrote my memo, 1290 01:28:16,135 --> 01:28:19,304 it was because I didn't feel as if I had a choice. 1291 01:28:22,975 --> 01:28:24,476 You know, when the memo was leaked 1292 01:28:24,476 --> 01:28:27,713 and subsequently published in The New York Times, 1293 01:28:29,282 --> 01:28:33,719 what I couldn't imagine or have conceived of 1294 01:28:33,719 --> 01:28:35,988 was the impact it had. 1295 01:28:39,091 --> 01:28:41,060 ♪ 1296 01:29:23,002 --> 01:29:25,071 I read it... 1297 01:29:25,071 --> 01:29:27,773 I think with my jaw on the floor. 1298 01:29:30,943 --> 01:29:33,779 They were outlining the experiences of these women 1299 01:29:35,647 --> 01:29:38,017 as though they were writing about me. 1300 01:29:39,051 --> 01:29:41,787 And I couldn't believe that they were telling the story. 1301 01:29:44,523 --> 01:29:48,794 The fact that these women had the guts 1302 01:29:48,794 --> 01:29:51,364 to tell the story after all this time, 1303 01:29:51,364 --> 01:29:54,700 and for sure they weren't the first to try, 1304 01:29:54,700 --> 01:29:58,070 and the machine had squashed the story. 1305 01:30:02,375 --> 01:30:06,411 I can't tell you what it means to me to see it coming into the light. 1306 01:30:08,914 --> 01:30:10,149 Producer Harvey Weinstein 1307 01:30:10,149 --> 01:30:12,584 is facing multiple sexual harassment accusations 1308 01:30:12,584 --> 01:30:15,321 that span 30 years according to The New York Times. 1309 01:30:15,321 --> 01:30:17,156 The Times reporting that the Miramax co‐founder 1310 01:30:17,156 --> 01:30:20,326 has reached eight settlements with various accusers. 1311 01:30:20,326 --> 01:30:21,760 In a statement, Weinstein says 1312 01:30:21,760 --> 01:30:24,130 he came of age when rules about behavior were different. 1313 01:30:24,130 --> 01:30:28,634 He says he knows he's caused a lot of pain and sincerely apologizes. 1314 01:30:32,138 --> 01:30:33,595 I don't think he'll ever get it. 1315 01:30:33,595 --> 01:30:35,174 I don't think people like that change. 1316 01:30:37,843 --> 01:30:41,513 They say that about child molesters, they say it about rapists. 1317 01:30:41,513 --> 01:30:44,583 They don't change, he just got better at it. 1318 01:30:44,583 --> 01:30:47,452 He just got bolder 1319 01:30:47,452 --> 01:30:51,190 and because he was more powerful was able to get away with it 1320 01:30:51,190 --> 01:30:55,992 with more women and in... in more obvious ways. 1321 01:30:55,992 --> 01:30:58,463 Hold on, hold on. What are you doing here? 1322 01:30:58,463 --> 01:30:59,498 I'm media. 1323 01:30:59,498 --> 01:31:02,835 One of the most powerful men in Hollywood has been fired, 1324 01:31:02,835 --> 01:31:07,440 effective immediately, by the board of the studio he co‐founded. 1325 01:31:07,440 --> 01:31:09,608 ‐ I'm hanging in there. I'm trying my best. 1326 01:31:09,608 --> 01:31:11,010 Thank you, man. 1327 01:31:11,010 --> 01:31:13,145 Weinstein's wife announced last night 1328 01:31:13,145 --> 01:31:16,082 she was leaving him in the light of the allegations. 1329 01:31:16,082 --> 01:31:18,184 We're glad to see you're doing okay. 1330 01:31:18,184 --> 01:31:20,019 ‐ Guys, I'm not doing okay. 1331 01:31:20,019 --> 01:31:23,655 You're not? ‐ But I'm trying. I gotta get help, guys. 1332 01:31:23,655 --> 01:31:26,025 You know what, we all make mistakes. 1333 01:31:26,025 --> 01:31:28,294 Second chance I hope, okay? 1334 01:31:28,294 --> 01:31:30,896 - No problem. - Thanks, guys. 1335 01:31:30,896 --> 01:31:33,232 You know what, I've always been loyal to you guys. 1336 01:31:33,232 --> 01:31:36,269 Not like those fucking pricks that treat you like shit. 1337 01:31:36,269 --> 01:31:38,570 I've been the good guy. - Have a good one. 1338 01:31:38,570 --> 01:31:40,239 - Thank you. - Hope you feel better. 1339 01:31:40,239 --> 01:31:41,340 Thank you. 1340 01:31:41,340 --> 01:31:43,276 - Get some help, man. - Thank you. 1341 01:31:46,678 --> 01:31:48,914 We're happy with where the investigation is right now. 1342 01:31:48,914 --> 01:31:50,383 We have an actual case here. 1343 01:31:50,383 --> 01:31:52,339 The former movie mogul 1344 01:31:52,339 --> 01:31:54,320 surrendering to police in New York City 1345 01:31:54,320 --> 01:31:56,389 amid a throng of reporters and cameras. 1346 01:31:56,389 --> 01:31:58,312 There were so many things 1347 01:31:58,312 --> 01:32:00,059 that had helped protect him for so long, 1348 01:32:00,059 --> 01:32:01,894 and today in the court room it really felt 1349 01:32:01,894 --> 01:32:04,063 like those layers of protection fell away. 1350 01:32:04,063 --> 01:32:06,332 These are not individual experiences, 1351 01:32:06,332 --> 01:32:08,962 they're collective experiences. 1352 01:32:08,962 --> 01:32:12,271 There's a pattern here and starting today, 1353 01:32:12,271 --> 01:32:15,141 he answers to the same system of justice as the rest of us. 1354 01:32:24,517 --> 01:32:27,052 I watched Wonder Woman on the flight over here... 1355 01:32:28,587 --> 01:32:34,126 to try to feel heroic even when I didn't. 1356 01:32:37,696 --> 01:32:41,900 Chris Pine has this great quote and he says, um... 1357 01:32:41,900 --> 01:32:44,003 ‐ If you see something wrong happening in the world, 1358 01:32:44,003 --> 01:32:46,172 you can either do nothing or you can do something... 1359 01:32:48,640 --> 01:32:50,343 and I already tried nothing. 1360 01:32:55,181 --> 01:32:59,385 ‐ And I went, "Oh yeah, that's perfect." 1361 01:33:07,293 --> 01:33:10,262 In the midst of a scandal, two powerful words 1362 01:33:10,262 --> 01:33:11,763 are flooding social media. 1363 01:33:14,133 --> 01:33:16,869 Women across the country are identifying themselves 1364 01:33:16,869 --> 01:33:18,637 as victims of sexual harassment 1365 01:33:18,637 --> 01:33:21,907 in the wake of Hollywood mogul Harvey Weinstein's downfall. 1366 01:33:23,709 --> 01:33:26,512 ‐ The Harvey Weinstein story has helped people understand 1367 01:33:26,512 --> 01:33:30,216 that there's a really powerful argument for speaking up. 1368 01:33:32,617 --> 01:33:35,620 I don't think anyone could have foreseen 1369 01:33:35,620 --> 01:33:39,846 that this would spawn a worldwide movement. 1370 01:33:39,846 --> 01:33:42,061 It's a different world. 1371 01:33:42,061 --> 01:33:43,662 It's a better world. 1372 01:33:43,662 --> 01:33:46,131 ♪ 1373 01:33:49,868 --> 01:33:53,772 What's relatable is how power structures like this exist 1374 01:33:53,772 --> 01:33:57,677 so other people watching can relate into their lives, 1375 01:33:57,677 --> 01:34:01,113 because if we could do it in Hollywood, you know, people can do it anywhere. 1376 01:34:06,485 --> 01:34:08,554 It's the David and Goliath story. 1377 01:34:08,554 --> 01:34:12,291 The little guy can take down the big guy, that is totally possible. 1378 01:34:12,291 --> 01:34:14,560 ♪ 1379 01:34:14,560 --> 01:34:16,929 This is a revolution, 1380 01:34:16,929 --> 01:34:19,331 so go fuck yourselves. 1381 01:34:19,331 --> 01:34:20,533 You know, how dare you. 1382 01:34:20,533 --> 01:34:24,036 And we are not going to be silenced. We will not be silenced. 1383 01:34:24,036 --> 01:34:25,904 ‐ There's no question, no question 1384 01:34:25,904 --> 01:34:28,007 that Harvey's behavior was monstrous 1385 01:34:28,007 --> 01:34:30,843 and that he, of course, should be facing legal repercussion. 1386 01:34:32,311 --> 01:34:37,683 But there is a way, when you pick out the most grotesque 1387 01:34:37,683 --> 01:34:40,819 and then you fire them, 1388 01:34:40,819 --> 01:34:42,888 maybe you send them to jail, 1389 01:34:42,888 --> 01:34:45,658 maybe you banish them from their industry, 1390 01:34:45,658 --> 01:34:48,760 and then there's the sense that, "Okay, we've taken care of the problem." 1391 01:34:48,760 --> 01:34:52,264 ‐ Just, you know, locking up an individual isn't going to solve the problem, 1392 01:34:52,264 --> 01:34:54,266 and the most sinister aspect of all of this 1393 01:34:54,266 --> 01:34:59,980 is that the system enabled it, you know, um, and still enables it. 1394 01:34:59,980 --> 01:35:02,007 ‐ There are going to be hundreds of these cases 1395 01:35:02,007 --> 01:35:04,544 happening around the country in lots of different industries. 1396 01:35:06,312 --> 01:35:08,414 And these women are going to be attacked. 1397 01:35:10,383 --> 01:35:11,750 Undermined, discredited. 1398 01:35:13,386 --> 01:35:14,987 That's absolutely going to happen. 1399 01:35:17,690 --> 01:35:22,261 It's easy to forget just how recently it seemed impossible 1400 01:35:22,261 --> 01:35:24,463 to talk about Harvey Weinstein. 1401 01:35:24,463 --> 01:35:27,366 There is a Harvey Weinstein in every industry, 1402 01:35:27,366 --> 01:35:30,869 and there are people who are still vastly powerful 1403 01:35:30,869 --> 01:35:35,274 and around whom people are still terrified to tell the truth. 1404 01:35:37,577 --> 01:35:42,682 So after this interview, I'll go back to struggling with brave sources 1405 01:35:42,682 --> 01:35:44,750 to see if they're willing to take that risk 1406 01:35:44,750 --> 01:35:47,353 of putting their name on tough stories. 1407 01:35:47,353 --> 01:35:49,888 That challenge still goes on every day 1408 01:35:49,888 --> 01:35:52,725 for people facing abuse all over the world. 1409 01:36:13,045 --> 01:36:14,714 It's not over. 1410 01:36:17,683 --> 01:36:19,051 It continues. 1411 01:36:19,051 --> 01:36:21,186 ♪ 1412 01:37:01,427 --> 01:37:03,429 ♪ 1413 01:37:31,691 --> 01:37:33,693 ♪ 1414 01:38:28,347 --> 01:38:30,349 ♪ 123863

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