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This is not a stomach.
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It's a hub of intelligence.
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It houses the equivalent
of a small pet's brain.
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We have 200 million neurons
in our gut about as many
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as Timmy has in his cortex.
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And we can say that Timmy
is really very intelligent.
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A cat and a dog each
have about the same number
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of nerve cells as the gut.
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If they're intelligent, the
gut is every bit as smart.
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Scientists have some
surprises in store for us,
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having rediscovered
what common sense has
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known for a long time.
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People of a nervous
disposition get
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butterflies in their stomach.
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Cowards lack guts.
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And we sometimes
act on gut instinct
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with the gut feeling of fear
in the pit of our stomach.
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At times, we get the distinct
feeling our brains are not
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the only captain on board.
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But what exactly do scientists
know about the interplay
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between the gut and the brain?
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The gut is home not just
to millions of neurons,
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but also to hundreds
of billions of bacteria
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that secretly influence
our most daring exploits
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and our personalities.
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A voyage into the secret
territory of our bowels
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in search of our second brain.
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This story starts at
Columbia University
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in New York City when
Michael Gershon dared
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to proclaim that our gut houses
a sensitive and intelligent
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organ.
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It's important
to focus in the gut
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to explain to the world
this is one important dog.
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And it's not just a
repulsive serpentine
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snake-like disgusting thing, but
a vibrant lifeline to success.
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So there was a dark age of
knowledge of the second brain.
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And then it was rediscovered.
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And I helped to rediscover it.
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And since it was a
Renaissance, that
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makes me the Leonardo
of the bowel.
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If Leonardo da Vinci
had had the chance
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to use the microscope
Michael Gershon uses,
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these are some of the neurons
he would have observed.
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200 million of these neurons
line our intestine wall.
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They span the length
of our digestive tubes,
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helping us to digest food.
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Digestion is
surprisingly complicated.
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You have to do things that
are very hard to do in
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a laboratory-- break food
down that you eat and make it
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into tiny little molecules
that you can absorb and use
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to run your body.
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And for that, you need
a lot of nervous power.
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Our two brains resemble
each other like brothers.
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The upper brain houses the
central nervous system.
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And the lower brain houses
the enteric nervous system.
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They even share similar
scientific names.
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But did evolution
really need to equip us
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with two separate brains?
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The reason that evolution
would want to have this brain
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outside is very
similar to the reason
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we all keep personal
computers on our desks.
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By peripheralizing it,
sending it off to the gut,
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it's more efficient,
more effective.
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The brain doesn't have to
connect with huge cables
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to the gut.
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It can leave it there.
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And you don't have to expand the
brain to hold several million
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more nerve cells.
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Scientist, Michel
Neunlist, who
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is based in Nantes
in Western France,
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is one of the world's
leading experts
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on the enteric nervous system.
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For Michel in the history
of our two brains,
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the first brain is not
the one we think it is.
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The second brain has had
its name usurped really,
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because I consider it to be the
first brain, the original brain
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even.
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Primitive,
multicellular organisms
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were initially composed
of just a digestive tube.
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The enteric nervous
system developed
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within this digestive tube.
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If we travel back in
time, it becomes apparent
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that our upper brain evolved in
order to better feed ourselves.
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The appearance of
the brain coincided
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with that of our eyes and
ears useful for seeking food.
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Without dividing the
tasks up like this,
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we would still be
spending all our energy
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digesting, digesting,
and digesting some more.
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The turning point in this
spectacular evolution
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of our brain is linked to
a technological invention,
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the domestication of fire.
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1.5 million years
ago, Homo sapiens
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was still called Homo ergaster.
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And he had just
invented the barbecue.
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Cooking is a form
of pre-digestion.
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So thanks to cooking first,
chewing became easier.
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And we, therefore, invested
less energy and physical effort.
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Secondly, when cooked food
arrives in the stomach,
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digestion is easy.
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And we can recuperate
16 times more energy
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with a lot less investment.
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As the first brain worked
well, the second brain
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took advantage of that
and was able to develop.
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In theory, it could not have
happened at all, but it did.
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Cooking our food
meant that we could
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jump some physiological hurdles,
in other words, the constraints
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linked to the available
energy a large brain needed.
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And from there, from
Homo ergaster onwards,
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the first brains, which measured
700 to 800 cubic centimeters,
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gradually evolved over
hundreds of thousands of years
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into very large brains,
like for example,
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those of Neanderthal
man or Cro-Magnon.
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Cro-Magnon, that's you and me.
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This brain increased to 1,500
to 1,600 cubic centimeters
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without any change in body size.
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So our brain evolved.
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And now, we can think
of something other
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than our stomachs.
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Thinking on one
side and digesting
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on the other-- a neat
division of tasks in theory.
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But as always, the reality
is more complex-- firstly,
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because our two
nervous systems, which
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are connected by
the vagus nerve,
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are in constant
conversation, secondly,
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because the brain
and the stomach
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use the same neurotransmitters.
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Neurotransmission
is the language
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that nerve cells speak in
order to talk to one another.
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And neurotransmitters
are the words
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that each nerve cell puts
out that another nerve
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cell can understand.
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Now, serotonin is
one of the words.
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Serotonin, Michael Gershon
has dedicated his life
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to understanding the
meaning of the word, which
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changes according to
the context it's in.
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And this is what
he has discovered.
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In the upper brain,
serotonin means well-being.
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In the gut, it sets the
pace for intestinal transit
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and regulates our immune system.
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It is depicted here
in red, with the cells
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of our intestine wall in blue.
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But surprising as it may seem,
95% of our body's serotonin
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is produced in our gut.
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This serotonin acts
on the digestive tube.
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But also more
surprisingly, it is
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released into the bloodstream
and acts on the brain,
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in particular in the
hypothalamus, which
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is a zone that
manages our emotions
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and takes part in the
regulation of emotions.
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When the gut and
brain converse,
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the messages they exchange
transit via the vagus nerve.
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But we've known that
for a long time now.
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What researchers
have just discovered
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is that the serotonin that
transits clandestinely
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via the blood stream
towards the brain
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interferes with our emotions
in a much more complex way.
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Destined for the gut, this
surplus of information,
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which in theory has no real
business being in the brain,
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can sometimes lead
to misunderstandings.
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We already knew that
our emotions could indeed
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influence our gut.
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Now, what we're seeing
is that our gut can also
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influence our emotions.
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Under normal conditions, the
exchanges between gut and brain
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take place without us
even knowing about it,
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making it difficult
to study them.
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But as always in science, by
observing what goes wrong,
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we can gain a
better understanding
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of how things work.
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Irritable bowel
syndrome, or IBS,
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is unfortunately an
obvious case study
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for examining the communication
problems that sometimes crop up
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in the brain-gut couple.
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It's a very common disease,
affecting 1 in 10 people
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and is characterized by
severe abdominal pain.
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The syndrome is characterized
by digestive difficulties,
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abdominal pain, and a
disruption of transit time,
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but without us
being able to find
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any so-called
organic malfunctions
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from the various
exams we carry out,
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whether via colonoscopy,
gastroscopy, scan.
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That's why these people can't
understand what's going on,
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because we usually
tell them, well, we've
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run extensive tests,
and we found nothing.
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And they often say, but
doctor, I'm in pain,
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there's something wrong with me.
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So it's important to explain
to them that currently we
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explain these function disorders
by malfunctions occurring
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between our brain and
our digestive tube.
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What is causing these
communication problems?
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What is sending out the wrong
messages-- our upper brain
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or our lower one?
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These questions are mobilizing
researchers all over the world.
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In Munich, Michael
Schemann considers
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that IBS could originate
in the intestine wall.
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Along with his team,
he's trying to pierce
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the mysteries of this
neuron-packed area
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of intestinal skin that lies
at the crossroads of often
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delicious, but sometimes
painful sensations.
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It's hard to believe,
but inside this sausage
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is an enteric nervous system.
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It's a typical Bavarian
recipe-- white sausage,
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and its skin is nothing other
than a natural intestine, which
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contains the enteric
nervous system.
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More than just
dissecting sausages,
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the researchers are
cutting into intestines.
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Their work involves
measuring the activity
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of human intestinal neurons.
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We're basing our work on
the following hypothesis--
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one of the causes of IBS is
due to a faulty communication
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between the mucosal
surface and the gut nerves.
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To test this hypothesis,
Michael Schemann
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compares the neuronal activity
of the submucosal nerves
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of healthy patients with
those of ill patients.
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And this is the result
on an ill intestine.
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This film is the very
first visual presentation
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of the signals that are emitted
and received by the nerve
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cells of our intestine.
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It shows that the
neurons of ill patients
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are far more active than those
of the healthy population.
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We conclude that these
patients are indeed
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suffering from a
hypersensitive nervous system,
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a sort of intestinal
neurosis if you like.
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Michael Schemann hopes
his discovery will soon
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result in a drug
that will normalize
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this neuronal hyperactivity.
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In the meantime, at
the University Hospital
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of Grenoble, Bruno
Bonaz has observed
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that the disease is often
brought on by stress
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or traumatic events.
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He uses a more global
method to provide relief
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for his patients.
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Do sit down.
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Take slow, calm, deep breaths.
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You're feeling serene.
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You're smiling.
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You're feeling very
relaxed, nice and relaxed.
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Why does the stomach
bear the brunt of all that?
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I think there are lots of
things we carry subconsciously
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in our stomachs, which is
where the idea of working
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on that area with
hypnosis comes from.
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Hypnosis can, in
particular, encourage
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phenomena of adjusting to pain.
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It means, these patients
perceive less pain.
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And their state of
hypervigilance is reduced.
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So they will perceive less pain.
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And now, you can feel a
pleasant feeling of warmth
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in the area of your stomach
around your abdomen.
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Concentrate for a while on
the gentle, pleasant warmth
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you feel in your stomach.
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If you imagine that the
gut is sending signals
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to the brain that are
disturbing and the brain finds
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these signals
intolerable, hypnosis
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can be used to
essentially anesthetize
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the brain to these signals.
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So it's getting the same
signals that are bad,
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but because of hypnosis, they've
suddenly become tolerable.
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Although scientists don't
understand the exact mechanisms
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as yet, neuroimaging
has enabled them
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to localize the
effects of hypnosis
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on the brains of patients
subjected to intestinal pain.
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[NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
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Here, you have four cross
sections of the brain.
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When you experience
abdominal pain,
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you activate the zones
that are represented here,
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like the brain stem here, the
thalamus, the insular cortex
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here, the anterior cingulate
cortex, and the frontal cortex.
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And we now know
that hypnosis can
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modulate the activation
of these zones that
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are involved in pain.
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So it's clear that hypnosis
is not just all in the mind,
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but is something that
has a neural, anatomical,
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and functional substratum.
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[MUSIC PLAYING]
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Scientists are
only just beginning
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to understand the secret
silent conversation that takes
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place between gut and brain.
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Our minds are constantly
influenced by our body's
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internal chemistry.
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Even our dreams, the most
mysterious expression
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of our inner lives,
are particularly
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sensitive to the
serotonin emission
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that happens during our sleep.
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Could the unconscious,
the notion
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discovered back in ancient
times and reinvented by Sigmund
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Freud, be located in our gut?
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The enteric nervous
system can affect
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how you feel by sending signals
to the brain that do not
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reach consciousness
and can change the way
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the brain perceives the world.
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Your ability to think happily,
your ability to think well,
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your ability to resist
depression and anxiety
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can be very influenced
by the messages
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that the gut sends to the brain.
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So to that extent,
it's a contributor
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to your unconscious.
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If we don't have
emotions or feelings,
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we become completely irrational.
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Freud's approach is
fascinating, because he said,
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the ego is not master
in its own house.
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Well, perhaps not in the brain.
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And perhaps, the ego's
house is down there.
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So perhaps, that
ego is in the gut.
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Yes, I like that idea.
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Gastric psychoanalysis
sounds good to me. [LAUGHTER]
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[MUSIC PLAYING]
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For the time being,
gastric psychoanalysis
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is still on the
lookout for a founder.
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But so striking is the
anatomical similarity
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between our two
brains, that scientists
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are starting to
wonder very seriously
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if the stomach and
the head might not
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share their illnesses as well.
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Certain neurological illnesses,
like Parkinson's disease,
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may even originate in the gut.
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The University
Hospital of Nantes,
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which receives 2,000
Parkinson's patients a year,
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is the ideal place to
study the hypothesis.
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[NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
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We're going to do a few
small movements to see
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the current state
of your condition.
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Can you do this with
your right hand?
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Give it a little
shake like this.
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So that's difficult for you.
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So in your day-to-day life, that
must hamper all your actions,
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like eating, for example.
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It blocks.
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It blocks.
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He can't lift his arm.
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He can't lift his arm.
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So you have to help him.
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Yeah, he can't feed himself.
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For a long time,
Parkinson's disease
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was considered to be a condition
that destroyed neurons located
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in a particular area of the
brain known as the substantia
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nigra, which is Latin
for black substance.
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Yet, doctors have observed
that the disease is often
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also accompanied by major
digestive disturbances.
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Scientists have, therefore,
put forward the theory
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that it affects not only
brain cells but also
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our guts' neurons.
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[NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
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Among certain
patients prematurely,
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before the first
motor signs appear,
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you can find signs of the
digestive tract being affected,
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such as constipation
or an impairment
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of the sense of smell.
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So as this is rather
premature, some researchers
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have put forward the hypothesis
that the disease could
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originate peripherally
and then spread gradually
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along the nervous system
and into the brain
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and then, in a
subsequent stage, become
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far more widespread
in the brain, which
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would explain why patients
develop intellectual impairment
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and trouble with balance in the
final phase of its development.
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[MUSIC PLAYING]
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The real origin
of the disease,
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whether it's in the
gut or the brain,
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has not yet been established.
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But Michel Neunlist
and the neurologist
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of the University
Hospital of Nantes
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wanted to find
out more about it.
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In 2006, they decided
to work together
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to prove that
Parkinson's disease can
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be diagnosed via a simple
intestinal biopsy of a living
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patient.
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Today, that task has
been accomplished.
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In a simple routine biopsy,
there are 150 neurons.
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And their condition reveals a
lot about our brain neurons.
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[NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
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What was observed among
Parkinson's patients
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was that, in these
biopsies, lesions typical
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of Parkinson's disease
were found in the gut
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neurons, the same
lesions that were found
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in the central nervous system.
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This is an
extraordinary result.
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Whereas a biopsy of the
brain is potentially
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dangerous for the patient,
an intestinal biopsy
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is a harmless procedure.
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[NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
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As a gastroenterologist,
I would never
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have imagined taking part in
understanding or diagnosing
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neurological diseases.
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And yet, in the case
of Parkinson's disease,
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we can visualize
and give information
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on what is happening
in the brain--
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from our brain that is
located in the intestine,
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as though we were opening
a window onto the brain.
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And that's absolutely fantastic.
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[MUSIC PLAYING]
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What the scientists in
Nantes have discovered
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provides enormous hope.
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In two or three
years' time, they
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hope to be able to carry
out these routine biopsies
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on people at risk.
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Given that the digestive
symptoms of the disease
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can occur 20 years before
the onset of motor symptoms,
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an early diagnosis could
enable earlier and, therefore,
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more efficient treatment
of the disease.
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In the meantime, the idea
of looking at the stomach
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in order to better treat the
mind is starting to gain ground
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[NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
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The idea of the gut as an
open window onto the brain
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has been shown to be valid
for Parkinson's disease.
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The question we'll
also be exploring now
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is to try and see if
this hypothesis applies
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to other neurodegenerative
diseases and, in particular,
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Alzheimer's disease or other
pathologies, this time more
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neurodegenerative ones, but
perhaps also behavioral ones,
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such as autism and
psychiatric pathologies.
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[MUSIC PLAYING]
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On closer
inspection, our world
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resembles a gut made up of tubes
and entrails, in which fluids,
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information, and
signals circulate along
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increasingly complex networks.
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Science is only just
starting to take into account
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the complexity of
these exchanges.
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And their emerging properties
remain to be discovered.
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Yet, on the other
side of the world,
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traditional Chinese
medicine has been
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based on a vision
of the human body
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as a whole for
thousands of years.
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It endeavors to regulate the
invisible energy flow that
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circulates through our bodies.
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In Chinese medicine, organs
talk to each other and interact
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via qi, an energy that
connects us to the universe.
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[NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
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The different medical
systems are based
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on their cultural context.
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In Western medicine,
we concentrate
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on what is localized, dividing
the body into different parts
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to study specific functioning.
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But Chinese medicine is based
on a holistic, global vision
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and focuses particularly
on the relationship
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between the different
parts of the body.
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Each of these two visions
has its advantages.
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[MUSIC PLAYING]
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The gut expert of
traditional Chinese medicine
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is called Bo Zhi-yun.
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We are in the CTM
Hospital of Canton,
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the largest hospital
in the world
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with 7 million patients a year.
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[CROWD CHATTER]
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Every day, its
pharmacy dispenses
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10 tons of drugs,
both Western and
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traditional Chinese medicine.
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Here, acupuncture needles
are used alongside state
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of the art medical equipment.
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The Chinese have been practicing
acupuncture for 3,000 years,
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although the gut
was never previously
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a predominant feature of
it, until Dr. Bo discovered
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abdominal acupuncture entirely
by chance, a new practice
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in the country of traditions.
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[NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
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It was in 1972.
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A lot of students were
learning acupuncture,
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and I had about 20 students
trained in Western medicine.
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One day, an old worker
arrived in a wheelbarrow,
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complaining of severe back pain.
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I applied all the classic
acupuncture methods,
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but nothing worked.
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The patient was in such pain,
he was sweating profusely.
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And I started getting nervous
and broke out in a sweat
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myself, because a lot of my
students were watching me.
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With his students
gathered around him,
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the professor could
not lose face.
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[NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
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I used two deep
acupuncture points
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located in the stomach
along the Ren meridian.
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The patient immediately
stopped crying out.
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And his face suddenly relaxed.
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At the time, Professor
Bo was highly surprised.
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The location of these points
in relation to the symptoms
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was not logical.
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He then embarked upon
intensive research
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to understand acupuncture
in the abdomen.
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And he discovered a
highly sensitive zone
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around the navel.
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[NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
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The umbilical
cord is the center
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of the development
of the human body,
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plays a very important role
in the growth of the embryo.
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Even after the
cord has been cut,
505
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,120
the navel continues
to play a role
506
00:28:06,120 --> 00:28:08,060
in coordinating the whole body.
507
00:28:08,060 --> 00:28:10,140
But we don't know much
about this hidden system.
508
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,680
Professor Bo's method is shown
on these three illustrations.
509
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,180
He has trained over
5,000 disciples, who
510
00:28:20,180 --> 00:28:23,210
now practice abdominal
acupuncture in Asia, Europe,
511
00:28:23,209 --> 00:28:24,129
and the United States.
512
00:28:27,900 --> 00:28:29,170
[NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
513
00:28:29,170 --> 00:28:30,650
On these three
images, we can see
514
00:28:30,650 --> 00:28:33,680
that the organs and the viscera
have a direct relationship
515
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,190
to our emotions and
our mental state.
516
00:28:36,190 --> 00:28:38,480
We can see clearly that
the gut is closely related
517
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:39,280
to our brain.
518
00:28:42,730 --> 00:28:45,070
Thanks to this
discovery, Professor Bo
519
00:28:45,070 --> 00:28:48,630
now treats numerous pathologies.
520
00:28:48,630 --> 00:28:51,100
Today, a patient who
suffers from depression
521
00:28:51,100 --> 00:28:52,210
is consulting him.
522
00:28:54,184 --> 00:28:55,104
[NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
523
00:28:55,100 --> 00:28:56,710
Has your condition improved?
524
00:28:56,710 --> 00:28:58,130
[NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
525
00:28:58,130 --> 00:29:00,490
Yes, but it came
back a while ago,
526
00:29:00,490 --> 00:29:04,220
because there were
problems in my family.
527
00:29:04,220 --> 00:29:05,720
In traditional
Chinese medicine,
528
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,980
we say that to cure the disease,
you have to find the source.
529
00:29:08,980 --> 00:29:11,630
And where is the source?
530
00:29:11,630 --> 00:29:14,110
In the belly.
531
00:29:14,110 --> 00:29:14,910
Lie down.
532
00:29:14,910 --> 00:29:15,930
Let's start the session.
533
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,670
Under Professor
Bo's needles, patients
534
00:29:31,670 --> 00:29:35,100
suffering from Parkinson's,
Alzheimer's, and depression
535
00:29:35,100 --> 00:29:37,840
sometimes experience a
regression of their symptoms
536
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:39,930
without Western science
being able to understand
537
00:29:39,930 --> 00:29:41,040
how the magic works.
538
00:29:47,540 --> 00:29:49,720
Should scientists
just accept the idea
539
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:51,670
that there is an energy
that is not described
540
00:29:51,670 --> 00:29:53,300
in their medical anatomy books?
541
00:29:59,580 --> 00:30:02,360
To try and better understand
how his treatment works,
542
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,320
Professor Bo has recorded
the MRIs of healthy patients
543
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,890
before and after a session
of abdominal acupuncture.
544
00:30:11,550 --> 00:30:12,560
[NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
545
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,850
Using functional MRI,
we compared the images
546
00:30:15,850 --> 00:30:18,650
of the brain of a person
before and after a session
547
00:30:18,650 --> 00:30:21,340
of abdominal acupuncture.
548
00:30:21,340 --> 00:30:24,150
After the acupuncture,
there is an increase
549
00:30:24,150 --> 00:30:26,930
in the number of
activated zones.
550
00:30:26,930 --> 00:30:29,770
The results show that
abdominal acupuncture
551
00:30:29,770 --> 00:30:31,800
can improve
cognitive functioning
552
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:35,130
and regulate emotions.
553
00:30:35,130 --> 00:30:39,970
[MUSIC PLAYING]
554
00:30:43,250 --> 00:30:45,940
In both the East and
the West, scientists
555
00:30:45,940 --> 00:30:48,650
admit that they are a long way
from understanding everything
556
00:30:48,650 --> 00:30:51,010
about the brain-gut axis.
557
00:30:51,010 --> 00:30:52,500
But their research
so far has led
558
00:30:52,500 --> 00:30:53,870
to an astonishing discovery.
559
00:31:03,490 --> 00:31:08,790
100,000 billion bacteria
live in our digestive tube.
560
00:31:08,790 --> 00:31:12,750
There are 1,000 times more
bacteria inside each one of us
561
00:31:12,750 --> 00:31:15,960
than stars in our galaxy.
562
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,880
This micro cosmos
within a macro cosmos
563
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,620
is the most concentrated
ecosystem on the planet.
564
00:31:29,420 --> 00:31:31,410
There are 100
times more bacteria
565
00:31:31,410 --> 00:31:34,350
in our gut than cells
in our whole body.
566
00:31:34,354 --> 00:31:35,274
[NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
567
00:31:35,270 --> 00:31:36,930
I'm a human being.
568
00:31:36,930 --> 00:31:40,010
My cells come from
the egg that was
569
00:31:40,010 --> 00:31:42,820
the result of the fertilization
of the ovum of my mother
570
00:31:42,820 --> 00:31:44,660
by the spermatozoa of my father.
571
00:31:44,660 --> 00:31:46,290
All those cells
that proliferated
572
00:31:46,290 --> 00:31:47,440
have made up my body.
573
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,890
Until not very long ago,
I thought that was me.
574
00:31:49,890 --> 00:31:51,770
But then I discovered
that was not so.
575
00:31:51,770 --> 00:31:53,780
In fact, that's just
a little part of me.
576
00:31:53,775 --> 00:31:55,655
There's an enormous part
of me that's made up
577
00:31:55,650 --> 00:31:57,640
of microscopic bacteria.
578
00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:58,900
I am, in fact, an ecosystem.
579
00:32:05,850 --> 00:32:10,120
We are more bacteria
than we are human.
580
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:13,170
We have many more bacterial
cells on our bodies--
581
00:32:13,170 --> 00:32:17,590
on our bodies, in our bodies--
than we have human cells.
582
00:32:17,590 --> 00:32:22,620
We have more bacterial DNA
than we have human DNA.
583
00:32:22,620 --> 00:32:28,500
So we are like passengers inside
a bacterial bus, if you will.
584
00:32:33,450 --> 00:32:36,600
At McMaster University
in Hamilton, Canada,
585
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,300
Stephen Collins is seeking
to understand the functioning
586
00:32:39,300 --> 00:32:42,080
of this organized ecosystem
that researchers now
587
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:43,070
call microbiota.
588
00:32:47,930 --> 00:32:53,400
We each carry one to two
kilos of bacteria inside us.
589
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:59,270
They generate about 30%
of our caloric intake,
590
00:32:59,270 --> 00:33:05,310
because a lot of the food
that we eat we cannot digest.
591
00:33:05,310 --> 00:33:08,090
But the bacteria can
digest it for us.
592
00:33:08,090 --> 00:33:09,620
And we take the energy.
593
00:33:13,950 --> 00:33:16,490
We offer the bacteria
board and lodging.
594
00:33:16,490 --> 00:33:19,660
And in exchange, they
convert our food into energy.
595
00:33:22,700 --> 00:33:27,260
They help us determine what is
and isn't toxic for our body.
596
00:33:27,260 --> 00:33:31,230
Without bacteria, survival
would be difficult.
597
00:33:31,230 --> 00:33:32,890
The immune system
in your gut, which
598
00:33:32,890 --> 00:33:35,010
is the biggest immune
system in the body,
599
00:33:35,010 --> 00:33:40,440
is educated by what the
bacteria inform it and tell it.
600
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,160
So the exposure to lots
and lots of bacteria
601
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,720
keeps the immune system alert.
602
00:33:45,722 --> 00:33:46,522
Attention!
603
00:33:50,550 --> 00:33:52,660
To the world at
large, we are merely
604
00:33:52,660 --> 00:33:57,400
germs-- small, significant
bacterial growth.
605
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,900
But today, we stand
united, knowing full well
606
00:34:00,900 --> 00:34:05,100
the glorious reward that awaits
each and every one of us.
607
00:34:05,096 --> 00:34:06,386
Sure, we're just germs--
608
00:34:06,390 --> 00:34:09,540
As microbes play such a
crucial role for our health,
609
00:34:09,540 --> 00:34:12,520
it is of critical importance
to understand the mechanisms
610
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:14,220
of microbial colonization.
611
00:34:14,220 --> 00:34:15,020
Ready, sir.
612
00:34:15,020 --> 00:34:15,820
Do me proud.
613
00:34:15,820 --> 00:34:20,040
Dip one, two, three.
614
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,070
Inside the mother's
womb, the baby
615
00:34:27,070 --> 00:34:29,000
lives in a sterile environment.
616
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,440
But starting from the first
day of his or her life,
617
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,410
he or she will be
colonized by hundreds
618
00:34:33,409 --> 00:34:35,639
of billions of microbes.
619
00:34:35,639 --> 00:34:38,359
The first bacteria to
settle inside the intestine
620
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,670
will select the newly
arriving bacteria
621
00:34:40,670 --> 00:34:44,010
until things stabilize, making
up a personal signature,
622
00:34:44,010 --> 00:34:45,480
like a sort of fingerprint.
623
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:50,310
[MUSIC PLAYING]
624
00:34:53,889 --> 00:34:56,749
Events, such as taking
antibiotics by the mother
625
00:34:56,750 --> 00:34:59,600
or by the child, birth
by cesarean section,
626
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,660
bottle feeding rather
than breastfeeding,
627
00:35:01,660 --> 00:35:05,260
and an excess of hygiene
all reduce bacterial contact
628
00:35:05,263 --> 00:35:06,723
and weaken the
infant's microbiota.
629
00:35:10,830 --> 00:35:13,590
I think sometime in the
future, I don't know when,
630
00:35:13,590 --> 00:35:17,730
that babies will be
born with and given
631
00:35:17,730 --> 00:35:20,380
the best possible flora,
that it will be given,
632
00:35:20,380 --> 00:35:23,620
not only to babies to
colonize them properly,
633
00:35:23,620 --> 00:35:27,070
but it will be given the
various stages through life,
634
00:35:27,070 --> 00:35:32,390
particularly as one gets older,
to reinforce the microbiome.
635
00:35:32,390 --> 00:35:35,270
[MUSIC PLAYING]
636
00:35:35,270 --> 00:35:38,450
To find the recipe of
the ideal microbiota,
637
00:35:38,450 --> 00:35:43,100
it is first necessary to know
which bacteria it contains.
638
00:35:43,100 --> 00:35:46,710
At the National Institute of
Agronomic Research in France,
639
00:35:46,706 --> 00:35:48,776
Dusko Ehrlich
endeavors to shed light
640
00:35:48,780 --> 00:35:51,690
on the mysterious population
that has lived inside us
641
00:35:51,690 --> 00:35:54,000
ever since Eve bit into
the apple of knowledge.
642
00:35:56,990 --> 00:35:59,090
In order to do
so, he has decided
643
00:35:59,090 --> 00:36:01,350
to study the genome of
our entire microbiota.
644
00:36:04,020 --> 00:36:07,480
That's right, study the
genome of an organism made up
645
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:11,450
of 100,000 billion bacteria.
646
00:36:11,450 --> 00:36:14,350
This discrete project,
called program MetaHIT,
647
00:36:14,350 --> 00:36:19,510
is a great deal more ambitious
than decoding the human genome.
648
00:36:19,510 --> 00:36:21,670
10 years ago, I
asked myself, what
649
00:36:21,670 --> 00:36:24,520
would be most fun
for a microbiologist
650
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,780
to do in his professional life?
651
00:36:27,780 --> 00:36:30,400
And it was very clear.
652
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:35,260
Worldwide, we had huge
sequencing capacity,
653
00:36:35,260 --> 00:36:37,670
because human genome
was sequenced.
654
00:36:37,670 --> 00:36:42,760
And genome of monkeys and
worms and flies were sequenced.
655
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:48,680
So couldn't we use that
capacity to sequence not only
656
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,700
our genome, but
also our metagenome.
657
00:36:55,380 --> 00:36:58,660
The mammoth task
ended in 2010,
658
00:36:58,660 --> 00:37:00,310
when researchers
published the map
659
00:37:00,310 --> 00:37:03,790
of a human microbial
metagenome and ended up
660
00:37:03,790 --> 00:37:05,940
with a catalog of
3 million genes.
661
00:37:09,270 --> 00:37:12,000
The vast project resulted
in a surprising discovery.
662
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:21,070
We discovered so many
things, I couldn't even
663
00:37:21,070 --> 00:37:22,800
begin to tell you.
664
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:26,330
But one of the most
surprising discoveries
665
00:37:26,330 --> 00:37:33,450
was that we humans can
be placed in three groups
666
00:37:33,450 --> 00:37:38,430
by the microbial populations
that live in our gut.
667
00:37:38,430 --> 00:37:40,540
We call these
groups enterotypes.
668
00:37:40,540 --> 00:37:44,990
[MUSIC PLAYING]
669
00:37:51,510 --> 00:37:53,920
So in addition
to blood groups,
670
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,950
we are divided into three
intestinal bacteria groups
671
00:37:56,950 --> 00:37:58,280
that Dusko calls enterotypes.
672
00:38:01,020 --> 00:38:02,850
Their difference lies
in their capacity
673
00:38:02,850 --> 00:38:06,300
to convert food into energy.
674
00:38:06,300 --> 00:38:08,820
All three produce vitamins,
but to varying degrees.
675
00:38:12,140 --> 00:38:13,850
The enterotypes
doesn't seem to be
676
00:38:13,850 --> 00:38:20,880
related to geographical
localization, race, sex, age.
677
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:26,460
And yes, one could have much
closer enterotype to a Japanese
678
00:38:26,460 --> 00:38:28,810
than to his own neighbor.
679
00:38:28,810 --> 00:38:31,640
[MUSIC PLAYING]
680
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:35,080
Is it our genes, our
environment, our food?
681
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:36,730
Dusko and his
colleagues have not yet
682
00:38:36,730 --> 00:38:40,310
understood what determines
these three enterotypes.
683
00:38:40,310 --> 00:38:41,810
But they are trying
to determine how
684
00:38:41,810 --> 00:38:43,650
the thousands of
species of bacteria
685
00:38:43,650 --> 00:38:44,910
interact with our body.
686
00:38:51,310 --> 00:38:54,230
The scientist's long-term aim is
to gain a better understanding
687
00:38:54,230 --> 00:38:56,230
of the role bacteria
play in the onset
688
00:38:56,230 --> 00:38:57,490
of certain chronic diseases.
689
00:39:04,070 --> 00:39:07,100
We're all familiar with
blood and urine samples.
690
00:39:07,100 --> 00:39:09,340
Soon, doctors will
analyze our stools
691
00:39:09,340 --> 00:39:11,660
to find out the exact
composition of our microbiota.
692
00:39:15,720 --> 00:39:19,800
It's evolutionary
way of diagnostic.
693
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:27,560
Well, we see predisposition
for diabetes, type 2 diabetes,
694
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:32,220
their disposition for
cardiovascular disease,
695
00:39:32,220 --> 00:39:34,670
the disposition
for liver disease
696
00:39:34,670 --> 00:39:40,520
just by examining
microbiota in people.
697
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:44,700
[MUSIC PLAYING]
698
00:39:48,460 --> 00:39:51,420
Studying the bacterial
flora of obese people,
699
00:39:51,420 --> 00:39:54,580
scientist Patrice Cani made an
extremely promising discovery.
700
00:39:57,620 --> 00:40:00,630
He observed that a certain
type of bacteria, Akkermansia
701
00:40:00,625 --> 00:40:03,105
muciniphila, which
abounds in the intestines
702
00:40:03,100 --> 00:40:05,460
of a healthy
population, is extremely
703
00:40:05,460 --> 00:40:06,870
rare in an obese population.
704
00:40:09,629 --> 00:40:11,919
He, therefore, wanted to
examine the purpose it serves.
705
00:40:14,650 --> 00:40:18,340
To do so, his team fed
mice a fat rich diet
706
00:40:18,340 --> 00:40:21,050
and watched how they got fatter
with and without Akkermansia.
707
00:40:23,940 --> 00:40:28,720
The experiment yielded
incredible results.
708
00:40:28,720 --> 00:40:31,950
By ingesting the same quantity
of energy of fat rich food,
709
00:40:31,950 --> 00:40:33,720
the animals which
received the bacteria
710
00:40:33,720 --> 00:40:35,740
took twice as long
to get fatter.
711
00:40:35,740 --> 00:40:37,470
What we were able
to demonstrate is
712
00:40:37,470 --> 00:40:39,530
that the adipose tissue
of the animals that
713
00:40:39,530 --> 00:40:42,610
received a fact rich diet but
were treated with the bacteria
714
00:40:42,610 --> 00:40:43,750
stocked less energy.
715
00:40:43,750 --> 00:40:48,250
[MUSIC PLAYING]
716
00:40:52,276 --> 00:40:54,586
Akkermansia lives in
the mucus layer that lines
717
00:40:54,590 --> 00:40:56,660
and protects our
intestinal cells
718
00:40:56,660 --> 00:40:58,980
and that enables it to
converse with our cells.
719
00:40:58,980 --> 00:41:03,830
[MUSIC PLAYING]
720
00:41:08,690 --> 00:41:11,220
Scientists have
succeeded in finding out
721
00:41:11,220 --> 00:41:13,960
how these bacteria
communicate with the cells
722
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:15,500
of the intestinal wall of mice.
723
00:41:20,260 --> 00:41:21,230
[NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
724
00:41:21,230 --> 00:41:24,450
In this experiment, we are
analyzing the mouse's genes.
725
00:41:24,450 --> 00:41:26,120
What we were able
to demonstrate is
726
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,210
that the bacteria
Akkermansia was
727
00:41:28,210 --> 00:41:30,490
able to activate
the mouse's genes
728
00:41:30,490 --> 00:41:35,960
that induce an increase in the
mouse's capacity to burn fat
729
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:37,960
with the result that
the mouse gets half as
730
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:41,050
fat, has half the body fat
of a mouse that does not
731
00:41:41,050 --> 00:41:44,070
receive the bacteria.
732
00:41:44,068 --> 00:41:48,808
[MUSIC PLAYING]
733
00:41:48,810 --> 00:41:51,300
This test tube may
well contain the goose
734
00:41:51,300 --> 00:41:54,030
that lays the golden egg.
735
00:41:54,030 --> 00:41:56,550
We will soon be eating
this living bacteria,
736
00:41:56,550 --> 00:41:59,830
either in a yogurt
or by popping a pill.
737
00:41:59,830 --> 00:42:01,870
But will it really
help us fight obesity?
738
00:42:04,344 --> 00:42:05,264
[NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
739
00:42:05,260 --> 00:42:06,900
From a therapeutic
point of view,
740
00:42:06,900 --> 00:42:08,400
the aim is to improve
the conditions
741
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,630
of patients suffering from
obesity and type 2 diabetes.
742
00:42:11,627 --> 00:42:13,457
The aim is not-- and
besides, it would never
743
00:42:13,460 --> 00:42:16,310
work-- to say to people that
we can administer this bacteria
744
00:42:16,310 --> 00:42:18,170
to them and they can
eat whatever they want
745
00:42:18,170 --> 00:42:20,020
and still be protected
from obesity.
746
00:42:20,020 --> 00:42:21,990
I don't think that's possible.
747
00:42:21,990 --> 00:42:26,100
[MUSIC PLAYING]
748
00:42:27,020 --> 00:42:29,880
Today, scientists
estimate that obesity is due
749
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:33,590
10% to genetic factors,
10% to bacteria,
750
00:42:33,590 --> 00:42:35,180
and 80% to our behavior.
751
00:42:39,340 --> 00:42:44,390
It, therefore, greatly
depends on our own will.
752
00:42:44,390 --> 00:42:47,520
But when we talk about
will, does that necessarily
753
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:49,490
mean we are the
only ones to decide?
754
00:42:52,110 --> 00:42:54,820
Is our brain the master
mind of our personality,
755
00:42:54,820 --> 00:42:56,380
or is it acting under influence?
756
00:42:59,970 --> 00:43:03,740
It is here, in Stephen Collins'
ultra sterile laboratory,
757
00:43:03,740 --> 00:43:05,010
that the answer may lie.
758
00:43:09,140 --> 00:43:12,600
If you take a germ-free
mouse that has no bacteria,
759
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:15,620
the mouse behaves in
a very strange way.
760
00:43:15,620 --> 00:43:17,250
It takes risks.
761
00:43:17,250 --> 00:43:20,170
It is almost irresponsible.
762
00:43:20,170 --> 00:43:23,930
When you put bacteria into these
mice, their behavior changes.
763
00:43:23,930 --> 00:43:25,300
They take no more risks.
764
00:43:25,300 --> 00:43:27,230
They are very careful.
765
00:43:27,230 --> 00:43:28,530
Why is this?
766
00:43:28,530 --> 00:43:30,350
So maybe, the
bacteria are saying,
767
00:43:30,350 --> 00:43:35,570
look, we want to survive,
so you better behave well.
768
00:43:35,570 --> 00:43:37,390
But Stephen
Collins does not stop
769
00:43:37,390 --> 00:43:39,680
at this simple observation.
770
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:43,120
In this experiment, he chose
two lines of mouse-- one
771
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:46,780
rather active and daring,
the other rather calm.
772
00:43:46,780 --> 00:43:48,910
Then he administered
to each line
773
00:43:48,910 --> 00:43:52,750
the microbiota of the
other line of mouse.
774
00:43:52,750 --> 00:43:55,710
We took mice that
were very quiet,
775
00:43:55,710 --> 00:44:00,300
and we put their
microbiota into mice that
776
00:44:00,300 --> 00:44:03,360
are notoriously aggressive.
777
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:05,650
And these are Swiss mice.
778
00:44:05,650 --> 00:44:07,760
And the Swiss mice
became calmer.
779
00:44:15,170 --> 00:44:17,290
Then we did the
other experiment.
780
00:44:17,290 --> 00:44:19,710
We took mice that
were very quiet,
781
00:44:19,710 --> 00:44:21,680
and then we gave
them the microbiota
782
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:23,550
from the aggressive mice.
783
00:44:23,550 --> 00:44:26,640
And the calm became
more aggressive.
784
00:44:26,638 --> 00:44:30,468
[MUSIC PLAYING]
785
00:44:32,340 --> 00:44:34,650
That's the
experimental evidence,
786
00:44:34,650 --> 00:44:38,380
that the microbiota
influence the brain.
787
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:58,030
Who we are is not determined
solely by us as humans.
788
00:44:58,030 --> 00:45:02,110
We're being influenced
by our ancestors--
789
00:45:02,110 --> 00:45:06,620
the bacteria that were present
on this Earth for millions
790
00:45:06,620 --> 00:45:11,500
of years before us that have
acquired a genetic repertoire
791
00:45:11,500 --> 00:45:13,490
that is much greater than ours.
792
00:45:13,490 --> 00:45:16,800
And now, we find that
they influence who we are
793
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:18,650
and how we are.
794
00:45:18,650 --> 00:45:23,230
[MUSIC PLAYING]
795
00:45:32,180 --> 00:45:34,360
The results of Stephen
Collins' demonstration
796
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:36,410
have toured the world.
797
00:45:36,410 --> 00:45:39,650
In Europe, other scientists are
making mice more adventurous
798
00:45:39,650 --> 00:45:41,320
simply by making
them eat bacteria.
799
00:45:44,830 --> 00:45:46,620
[NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
800
00:45:46,620 --> 00:45:48,850
We already knew about
a few of those features
801
00:45:48,850 --> 00:45:51,530
among a certain number of
parasites-- not bacteria,
802
00:45:51,530 --> 00:45:54,460
but small eukaryotes which
live inside organisms
803
00:45:54,460 --> 00:45:56,870
and change the behavior
of these organisms
804
00:45:56,870 --> 00:45:59,610
by serving their own interests.
805
00:45:59,610 --> 00:46:02,500
The example of toxoplasmosis
is an amusing one,
806
00:46:02,500 --> 00:46:04,760
because when these small
parasites are present
807
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,920
in mice, they remove
the mice's fear of cats.
808
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,870
Certain studies even suggest
that the mice are sexually
809
00:46:10,870 --> 00:46:13,450
attracted to the cats,
which is strange.
810
00:46:13,450 --> 00:46:15,190
Of course, that
results in them getting
811
00:46:15,190 --> 00:46:19,360
eaten by the cat, which serves
the interest of the toxoplasma,
812
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:22,240
because toxoplasma
develops well in cats.
813
00:46:22,243 --> 00:46:23,043
[VIDEO PLAYBACK]
814
00:46:23,043 --> 00:46:26,773
[MUSIC PLAYING]
815
00:46:26,775 --> 00:46:27,915
-(SINGING) Who put her in?
816
00:46:27,910 --> 00:46:30,200
Little Herman Grin.
817
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:33,700
Who pulled her out?
[LAUGHING] Ding
818
00:46:33,700 --> 00:46:37,780
dong dell, ding dong-- huh?
819
00:46:37,780 --> 00:46:38,840
[NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
820
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,440
And there are many
examples of this.
821
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:44,480
It's very common for parasites
living in the gut of their host
822
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:44,800
organism--
823
00:46:44,795 --> 00:46:45,595
[END PLAYBACK]
824
00:46:45,595 --> 00:46:48,235
--to alter its behavior.
825
00:46:48,230 --> 00:46:51,760
It shows to what extent there
is an interaction between what
826
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:55,520
happens in a person's gut
and what that person's brain
827
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:56,580
will order them to do.
828
00:46:59,184 --> 00:47:03,984
[MUSIC PLAYING]
829
00:47:06,850 --> 00:47:09,420
But before concluding that
we are being manipulated
830
00:47:09,420 --> 00:47:12,160
by bacteria, it is
necessary to prove
831
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:15,140
that what happens in mice
can be transposed to humans.
832
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:22,760
In order to modify
human intestinal flora,
833
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:27,060
we have two tools-- antibiotics
to kill bad bacteria
834
00:47:27,060 --> 00:47:29,120
and probiotics to
develop good ones.
835
00:47:33,220 --> 00:47:35,890
Probiotics are yeast
and live bacteria
836
00:47:35,890 --> 00:47:38,780
that are supposedly
beneficial for health.
837
00:47:38,780 --> 00:47:40,550
They can be found in
yogurts, for example.
838
00:47:43,340 --> 00:47:46,350
There is still some doubt
as to their real efficacy,
839
00:47:46,350 --> 00:47:48,400
given that research on
them is in part funded
840
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,900
by those who market them.
841
00:47:51,900 --> 00:47:54,150
In Europe, food
industry groups have
842
00:47:54,150 --> 00:47:56,940
been asked to remove all
allegations of health benefits
843
00:47:56,940 --> 00:47:59,610
from their probiotic-enriched
milk-based products.
844
00:48:03,130 --> 00:48:06,440
What's more, evaluating
the efficacy of probiotics
845
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:08,150
is no easy matter.
846
00:48:08,154 --> 00:48:09,074
[NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
847
00:48:09,070 --> 00:48:11,800
Life is not simple,
even among bacteria.
848
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:13,680
One single bacterium
is factory that
849
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:15,140
makes thousands of molecules.
850
00:48:15,140 --> 00:48:17,560
And generally to make
things even more difficult,
851
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:19,660
a preparation of
probiotic bacteria
852
00:48:19,660 --> 00:48:21,630
contain several
of these bacteria,
853
00:48:21,630 --> 00:48:23,650
increasing the
complexity even more.
854
00:48:23,654 --> 00:48:25,324
So we're a long way
from the classic one
855
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:26,640
molecule, one action standard.
856
00:48:33,394 --> 00:48:34,314
[NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
857
00:48:34,310 --> 00:48:37,410
We don't understand
exactly how it works.
858
00:48:37,410 --> 00:48:40,200
We know how to kill the
bad ones with antibiotics
859
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:43,640
and how to try to favor the
good ones by giving probiotics.
860
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:45,360
But in fact for the
moment, we really
861
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:47,150
don't understand very much.
862
00:48:47,152 --> 00:48:51,872
[MUSIC PLAYING]
863
00:48:58,230 --> 00:49:01,540
At the Center for Neurobiology
of Stress in Los Angeles,
864
00:49:01,540 --> 00:49:05,070
Kirsten Tillisch
was also skeptical.
865
00:49:05,070 --> 00:49:08,170
How could taking probiotics have
an effect on stress response?
866
00:49:11,620 --> 00:49:14,110
To find out more,
Kirsten and her team
867
00:49:14,110 --> 00:49:17,610
tested the effect of probiotics
on the brains of healthy women.
868
00:49:20,540 --> 00:49:23,610
What we decided to do is
look at healthy women, who
869
00:49:23,610 --> 00:49:27,760
had no pain, no discomfort, no
gastrointestinal, no anxiety
870
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:29,220
or depression.
871
00:49:29,220 --> 00:49:31,610
And the task that
we chose is a task
872
00:49:31,610 --> 00:49:35,250
that's been used to look
at how people respond
873
00:49:35,250 --> 00:49:38,690
to emotionally negative images.
874
00:49:38,690 --> 00:49:43,590
[MUSIC PLAYING]
875
00:49:47,510 --> 00:49:51,500
And we thought, well, let's see
if changing what's in the gut
876
00:49:51,500 --> 00:49:53,610
can change the responsiveness
to these images.
877
00:50:02,005 --> 00:50:05,035
For two weeks, scientists
gave a group of 60,
878
00:50:05,030 --> 00:50:10,730
perfectly healthy women yogurts
with and without probiotics.
879
00:50:10,729 --> 00:50:13,269
Then they looked to see if their
brains responded differently
880
00:50:13,270 --> 00:50:14,070
to stress.
881
00:50:17,770 --> 00:50:20,100
Are you ready
to start the task?
882
00:50:20,100 --> 00:50:21,210
OK, here we go.
883
00:50:24,130 --> 00:50:27,710
So what we found was that in
people who took the probiotic,
884
00:50:27,710 --> 00:50:30,670
a network of brain
regions was less active.
885
00:50:30,670 --> 00:50:33,780
So it implies that the
people who took probiotics
886
00:50:33,780 --> 00:50:36,650
are less reactive
to those images.
887
00:50:36,650 --> 00:50:38,720
We know that in
the brain something
888
00:50:38,720 --> 00:50:40,870
is changing in the
way that they're
889
00:50:40,870 --> 00:50:43,430
responding to their
environment and specifically
890
00:50:43,430 --> 00:50:45,950
to negative and
potentially threatening
891
00:50:45,950 --> 00:50:48,790
things in their environment.
892
00:50:48,790 --> 00:50:50,700
So this is the
first study that has
893
00:50:50,700 --> 00:50:52,750
shown that if you
give a probiotic,
894
00:50:52,750 --> 00:50:54,680
it changes something
in the brain.
895
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:58,810
This is incredibly exciting to
us, that with this simple food
896
00:50:58,810 --> 00:51:01,100
that I could go to
the market and buy,
897
00:51:01,100 --> 00:51:02,600
potentially I could
change something
898
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:03,850
that's going on in my brain.
899
00:51:03,853 --> 00:51:09,063
[MUSIC PLAYING]
900
00:51:09,060 --> 00:51:11,840
But even the most
enthusiastic scientists
901
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:14,120
recommend exercising
caution in the face
902
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:18,250
of this very recent research,
especially given that, as yet,
903
00:51:18,250 --> 00:51:20,830
we don't know much about
the side effects of bacteria
904
00:51:20,830 --> 00:51:22,780
on our body.
905
00:51:22,780 --> 00:51:25,490
But all agree that they have
an affect both on our health
906
00:51:25,490 --> 00:51:26,520
and on our brains.
907
00:51:31,330 --> 00:51:35,260
We now have to recognize
that a certain component
908
00:51:35,260 --> 00:51:41,360
input into our brain
comes from bacteria.
909
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:44,280
Doesn't mean we are
controlled by bacteria.
910
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:50,480
But they certainly have an
influence in who we are, in
911
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:55,110
how we behave and how we react.
912
00:51:55,110 --> 00:51:57,820
So I think, we now
have to consider
913
00:51:57,820 --> 00:52:00,120
that we have a third brain.
914
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:01,590
We have the big brain.
915
00:52:01,590 --> 00:52:03,460
We have the little Brian.
916
00:52:03,460 --> 00:52:06,920
And now, we have the
intelligence of bacteria.
917
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:11,420
[MUSIC PLAYING]
918
00:52:16,694 --> 00:52:17,614
[NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
919
00:52:17,610 --> 00:52:20,250
In science, we don't just
progress by making discoveries.
920
00:52:20,250 --> 00:52:24,150
We also progress by changing
models or paradigms.
921
00:52:24,150 --> 00:52:26,970
What we are is linked to our
history and our environments.
922
00:52:26,970 --> 00:52:29,180
These environments are
external and we're now
923
00:52:29,180 --> 00:52:30,410
discovering internal.
924
00:52:30,411 --> 00:52:31,281
And that's wonderful.
925
00:52:42,750 --> 00:52:43,780
[NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
926
00:52:43,780 --> 00:52:45,800
We tend to think, here we are.
927
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:46,920
We're all humans.
928
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:49,370
We sit staring at our
screens with a strong sense
929
00:52:49,370 --> 00:52:52,500
of our own individuality,
thinking that ecosystems
930
00:52:52,500 --> 00:52:56,050
are outside the forests,
the fields, the Amazon,
931
00:52:56,050 --> 00:52:58,260
that that's not us.
932
00:52:58,260 --> 00:53:00,790
But in reality, things
don't work like that.
933
00:53:00,790 --> 00:53:03,680
We have this bacterial
flora inside of us.
934
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:06,060
And it also exists
outside of us too.
935
00:53:06,060 --> 00:53:09,140
So in fact, we're bathing
in a bacterial ecosystem
936
00:53:09,140 --> 00:53:11,780
that penetrates us
and is part of us.
937
00:53:15,300 --> 00:53:17,690
There's no longer this
separation between ourselves
938
00:53:17,690 --> 00:53:19,940
and what is not ourselves,
between the exterior,
939
00:53:19,940 --> 00:53:21,820
between me and the others.
940
00:53:21,820 --> 00:53:24,600
There's one
absolutely remarkable
941
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:25,670
biological continuity.
942
00:53:32,900 --> 00:53:35,260
Scientists' vision of
our body has changed.
943
00:53:38,260 --> 00:53:41,960
What we formerly took for the
ultimate foundation of reality,
944
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:45,540
our individuality, is very
probably the reflection
945
00:53:45,540 --> 00:53:48,300
of a more complex
reality, essentially
946
00:53:48,300 --> 00:53:51,730
made up of messages,
networks, and still
947
00:53:51,730 --> 00:53:53,390
very mysterious connections.
948
00:53:57,120 --> 00:54:01,220
We are now thousands of
genes, billions of neurons,
949
00:54:01,220 --> 00:54:03,010
and hundreds of
billions of bacteria.
950
00:54:05,690 --> 00:54:07,990
We are a multitude of
links and information.
951
00:54:10,860 --> 00:54:12,970
Their overwhelming
complexity reaches
952
00:54:12,970 --> 00:54:15,650
far beyond the confines
of our own selves.
953
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:27,270
[MUSIC PLAYING]
71800
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