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In Toronto's war on crime, the worst
offenders are pursued by the detectives

the Specialized Criminal Investigations
Unit.

These are their stories.

Come on, Ivy. Stay for a little more
song. No, Amy.

Seriously, I have to go.

I have class tomorrow at nine.

We're literally easing every course. You
can take a morning off.

Wait, is something wrong?

Is it Rob? No, I'm fine.

Go sing. I'll see you at home.

Go. Go.

Okay. Can I close my tab?

Sure.

No whole lot of love tonight?

What?

Nothing.

Rob, stop calling. I'm not at tempo.

Ivy, if you're still feeling this way,
maybe you should take a break.

Go to your parents.

So you think I should just run away from
my problems?

No. I think you need to manage your
stress.

Wait, you don't think this is real, do
you?

Look, I'm not living in some fantasy
world, Dr. Nielsen. I didn't say that,

Come, sit, please.

I think you should consider doing what's
best for you in this situation.

I know what's best for me.

And I'm not going anywhere.

Everyone's looking at this all wrong.

I've done the tests.

These wounds were made by something
easily accessible.

A steak knife.

A paring knife.

So you think the killer was in the house
with her? Followed her out?

Why? Is that what you think?

Come on.

Please, Ivy. Help me out.

Why would someone stab this woman seven
times?

Passion makes people do irrational
things, Morris.

And you'd know that if you didn't spend
all your time playing with knives.

Okay, so what is it then? I want to
possess you, be you, so I'm going to

you?

Hello?

Yes, yes, thank you for calling back.

Yeah, I can be there.

Is that your mystery lead?

You're sure that's what you heard?

Yes, I am certain.

Who else have you told about this?

You're the first.

Rob,

what the hell are you doing? I just... I
want to talk. You've been avoiding me.

We've talked for months. You don't
listen.

We broke up.

Okay, but what if I didn't want to?

Hey, it's me.

Great work. I just think that maybe our
last chapter needs a bit more muscle. I

mean, I know you're all about the
subtlety and that's awesome, but I think

if we're going to make waves, we need to
hit it harder.

That's my thought. Anyway, I'll see you
soon.

Are you home? I need to talk to you.

Amy?

Amy, Mama Rita can't wait to find you.
Call me as soon as...

Hello?

Can't start this.

What's your emergency?

Hello?

Campus security got a call from this
phone at 11 .22, but there was nobody on

the line.

They sent somebody at 11 .30 thinking it
was a prank.

No such luck.

Ivy Abbott, 20 years old.

Dean said she's a third -year
criminology major.

She's got a 4 .0 GPA.

Smart kid.

You talked to the parents yet?

Yeah, they're both academics. They're in
Edinburgh per year. They're flying back

today. Ivy was her only kid.

So, what sent... Ivy Abbott to an
emergency phone in the middle of the

Well, her cell phone died.

Uh, here.

Secretive charge. Oh, great. Thanks.

I wonder if someone was following her.

Well, these indentations between her
fingers. Could be she tried to arm

Maybe with her keys for protection.

Okay, so she runs to the phone to call
for help, but the killer...

stabs her in the neck, and then drags
her and flips her over. Keeps stabbing.

The wound to her neck would have been
fatal. The six stabs on her back, that

anger. This was personal.

You found the weapon?

No, nothing yet.

Anything on her person that could
account for this? Looks like rope burn.

just found her wallet, keys, and her
phone.

Oh, it's charged.

Thanks.

Hey, what do you mean you're too scared
to stay home? Call me.

Ivy said she was coming back to her
apartment.

I was studying on campus till midnight.

My phone was on do not disturb.

When I got Ivy's voicemail, I texted her
and she didn't respond.

I ran home and I found this.

I tried to blow them all up, but there
were so many.

Amy, is there anyone we can call?

Can I text my mom? Of course.

Amy, has anything like this happened
before?

The first time there were just a couple
of candles, then a few more.

It's the third time.

Have you must have been so scared?

Do you have any idea who might have done
that?

Yeah, I figured it was Rob, Ivy's ex.

It started a couple months ago when they
broke up. Did Ivy ever inform the

police? She tried. The cop at the
station said that it's not a crime to

something outside of someone's house.

Oh, sweetheart, I'm so sorry to hear
that.

Do you think this was some grand gesture
to try to get Ivy back?

We tried every other way.

Constant calling, texting, guys
unhinged.

Wait, you think I did something to Ivy?

No, no, I would never hurt her. Well,
what do you know about this, huh?

It's got quite the distinctive scent.

Cedar, cannabis, Canadian wildflowers.
And a hundred of these were left on

patio last night.

It's crazy.

Where were you last night, Rob?

I was at the Madison.

Got there like 10 p .m. with a few
buddies.

Stayed until, I don't know, 1 .30.

Came back here with Kaylee.

She just left.

Kaylee?

Trying to make new people get over Ivy.

Best six months of my life were with
her. So why did you break up?

I don't know.

She just pulled away. She broke up with
me. She wouldn't tell me why.

She shut down her social media, started
going to therapy, which I thought was

weird. I mean, she never wanted to talk
about her feelings before.

Who's your therapist?

Someone on campus.

Sarah something.

Ivy and I met.

Four times in the last few months.

She was a great student.

Good kid.

And she needed someone to talk to.

Yes. She was stressed.

Anxious. Did this anxiety have anything
to do with unwanted attention?

A lot of female students seek out
guidance regarding harassment,

unfortunately, Ivy was no different.

Look, I wouldn't normally do this,
but...

You can have my notes. They might help.

Thank you. Ivy was convinced that
someone was following her. She said that

left things outside of her apartment
lurking near her place. To be honest, I

couldn't tell whether this was real or
whether it was some delusion brought on

by some underlying issue.

It says here possible BPD.

I'm assuming that's borderline
personality disorder.

Distorted sense of self, intense
emotions.

Relationship instability, yes.

It's all motivated by a fear of
abandonment. But I wasn't sure because

exhibited traits of... Paranoid
personality disorder.

Illusions. Distrust.

And you never made an official
diagnosis?

No, no. And considering what happened to
her, I suppose I got that all wrong.

Regardless, it would take me more than
four sessions to be sure. You know, some

folks go after the stuff with a hammer.

I paint in watercolor.

You know, it takes time.

Patience.

I wanted to help Ivy. I really did.

But I couldn't report the harassment for
her.

Did Ivy ever describe this person?

The only thing that I remember her
saying is that he wore an army jacket.

It's so sad, isn't it?

Did you know him?

She was my girlfriend.

My God.

I'm so sorry.

Apparently, she tried to report it, but
her description of the guy was vague.

And do you know what they say about
stalking? Yes, homicide in slow motion.

Finished IV Abbott's autopsy. The killer
twisted the knife inside her neck

almost 180 degrees.

She sliced her carotid and her jugular?
Yeah, she bled out quickly.

I looked into those abrasions on her
left hand. They're thin fibers embedded.

sent them for testing.

Possibly clutching onto an object as a
weapon when the keys fell? Maybe. I once

tried to fend off a subway perv using a
debit card.

Yeah, I pretended chapstick with pepper
spray. It actually worked.

Her killer wasn't a stranger.

He had a personal connection with her.
Yeah, he either hated her or desired

Maybe he even felt a whole lot of love.

What's the name of the candle? Forensics
just came back.

Pinpointed a proprietary blend of cedar,
cannabis, and Canadian wildflowers.

Created by a Canadian company, Shy Wolf,
I called them. And guess who bought 150

candles using their credit card online?

Hope you have a reservation because
we're totally booked tonight.

Oh, I'm sure you could squeeze us in
for, I don't know, five minutes and 33

seconds. I just don't have time to do a
hearty rendition of a whole lot of love.

Carter Harold, right? That's you?

Yeah. Well, it seems recently you bought
a whole lot of these candles.

Very expensive to just leave them all in
Ivy Abbott's backyard.

Come on, Carter. That's enough.

I'm going to kill Ivy, I swear.

You sure?

Because you were stalking her.

Okay. I left the candles on the night
she died. On all those nights. But I

wanted... Wanted what?

Be her own personal boogeyman?

No. I wanted her to know that I cared
about her.

The candles, they were a message.

They were named after a song we sang
together.

You're telling me a 20 -year -old sang
Led Zeppelin at karaoke?

Not exactly. I was in a room on my own
one night.

But then I heard a voice in the hall
joining in.

I looked out and saw...

Her. And you got hooked.

Pulled her address off her ID, went to
her house, started taking photos,

lighting candles.

I needed her to know how I felt.

What about how she felt?

I'm pretty sure you terrified her every
single time.

See, I'm pretty new to this, so forgive
me, but you want us to believe that you

trespassed onto her property, peeked
through her windows, and...

Took some pretty intrusive photos of
her. But then you didn't? Follow her to

deserted area, stab her in the neck and
in the back?

Carter, what did Ivy do when she saw the
candles?

Answer the question.

We ran away, okay?

She obviously didn't like them.

Shocker. So I left, and I went to work
the late shift at the bar.

Check the cameras. I was there by 11
.15.

We will.

Honestly, I wish I'd followed her. I
could have helped her.

Well, maybe it's not too late to help.

You followed her around, right?

Yeah. What was she up to?

She was spending way too much time at
that criminology building.

She had classes there. No, it's not just
class. It's something else.

Every day she goes to some weird locked
room that only a few people had a key

to.

What's inside?

I don't know, but I think it's bad for
her.

Very bad.

Let me know when you're done.

Well, looks like a bunch of true crime
nerds made a mess.

Or a cold case club.

There's your seminar supervised by
Professor Garrett Poole. What's the

A victim was Kat Berman, murdered in
2019.

Student at Queens University.

She was stabbed once in the neck.

And six times in the back.

Exactly like that.

So Ivy Abbott was studying Kat Berman's
murder and ends up getting killed in

exactly the same way? Down to the twist
of the knife.

Take a look at Ivy's autopsy and Kat's
autopsy from six years ago.

Their fatal neck wounds were caused by
the exact same maneuver.

Followed by six stabs to the back, the
only difference was the marks on the

hand. Ivy had them, Kat did not.

You talked to Kingston PD?

Yeah, they gave us access to Kat's file,
but they haven't had a new lead in

forever. So, now we have two dead
students, similar ages, same wound.

Yeah. We might be looking at a serial
murderer. Or a copycat who knew the

pattern well.

Maybe because they studied at a cold
case club.

Ivy was an excellent student.

Sorry for your loss, Professor Poole.

The provost told us she was in your cold
case club.

Yeah, one of only ten kids selected.

Yes, it was an invitation -only
criminology seminar for third -year

and Ivy was, yeah, she was doing
incredibly well.

They all were.

So you thought your best and brightest
could solve Kat Berman's murder?

That stumped the Kingston PD.

It's more of a teaching exercise.

So you take an unsolvable case, give it
to a bunch of smart kids.

And see what they do with it.

They each bring their own expertise,
their own point of view. It's

And what was Ivy's angle?

Interpreting witness testimony.

And what if a student discovered the
lead?

Well, then I would take it to the cold
case unit, but I've been using this one

for a couple years now, and so far there
are no new leads.

But Ivy wanted to find one, yeah.

We heard she spent quite a lot of time
in the seminar room after hours.

Yes, they all did, and I told them
they'd get top marks if they solved it,

they couldn't take the files home.

Did those files include Cat Berman's?

Autopsy.

Yes, why?

Oh, we were wondering if any of the
students were taking the pathology

Caused death, injuries.

Yes, Morris LeMay.

He's an aspiring forensic pathologist.
He was trying to recreate Cat Berman's

wounds using various unique methods.

Many budding pathologists practice
replicating knife wounds.

It's not weird.

So, does everyone work on Miss Piggy?
Well, they should. The consistency of

flesh is very close to human. Well,
funny, that's why we're here.

Morris, where were you the night Ivy
died?

I didn't kill Ivy. I was with my parents
here all night.

You can ask them.

What's on your mind?

If only I'd moved faster, done better.

Could have found out who really did this
and Ivy would still be alive.

Do you think Kath's killer murdered Ivy?
Isn't it obvious?

Ivy probably figured out who did it.

Call yourself a detective.

Professor Poole said that there were no
new leads.

Yeah, well, Poole doesn't know
everything.

Ivy finished reviewing witness testimony
and moved on to something that wasn't

even assigned to her.

Something that no one was allowed to do.

Interviewing real witnesses.

How'd you know?

That's exactly what he would have done.

So, what was Ivy's strategy?

Ivy was really into victimology.

In particular, victim facilitation.

You know, the theory of what makes
someone a target.

But nothing in the witness testimony
made it seem like Kat was a high -risk

victim. She went to work and school.

So Ivy wanted to know how the killer
came into Kat's orbit.

Yeah. Ivy figured the perp was either an
unassuming random stalker... Or someone

Kat didn't want anyone else to know
about.

Did Ivy find any new leads?

She went to meet a witness the day she
died.

I saw the address she wrote down before
she left.

Yes. Ivy Abbott came by here at 6 p .m.

We chatted. She left. I was here till
12. I didn't even know her.

But Ivy thought that you might know Kat
Berman.

Barely. I used to deliver pizzas to Kat.
And where was this?

Six years ago, I was living in Kingston
with my aunt, and on the weekend, I

delivered pizzas for a place called
Mac's Dough. And Ivy knew you were

delivering pizzas to Kat? She saw a
photo of our pizza box in Kat's

part of the case files, I guess.

And Ivy wanted to know if you ever saw
anyone with Kat on the weekends?

Yes, and there was a guy there with her
sometimes.

Definitely a boyfriend.

So, Damien, did you ever see a face, get
a name?

No, but I heard his voice. He was
annoying.

Told the same story over and over.

So our pizza box was red, right? Every
time Kat took it inside, he would make a

comment on how it was the exact same
color of his fancy cottage in

So when I told Ivy about it, she got
really tense.

Said she needed to talk to her professor
right away.

Hmm. Hmm.

He didn't tell us that.

Morris, what are you doing here?

I, uh...

Came to grab some of my research.

Well, you won't need it. Out of respect
for Ivy, I'm canceling this seminar for

good.

But what about our grades?

Is that all you can think about, your
grades?

What kind of question is that, man?

What's wrong with you?

I'm sorry.

You're right.

Hang on, hang on.

I'm sorry.

Marks will be determined based on the
work that's already been submitted.

You're okay.

Don't worry.

So you've never heard of Damien Aku?

No, I've never mentioned meeting anyone
named Damien Aku.

I would never condone her reaching out
to a stranger about the cold case.

Really?

Because Damien told us that Ivy's first
priority was to report back to you about

a new suspect.

Well, she may have sent an email.

Maybe it ended up in my junk box.

I don't know. My inbox is a mess. I
haven't had time to go through. This is

first new clue in years, and you haven't
had time?

I'm saying I didn't know there was a new
clue.

Okay. Well, that's all right. You know
what? We can fill you in.

So Ivy found out that Cat had a secret
boyfriend.

Now, we don't know his name.

Oh, but we do know that he owns some
pretty stunning property.

Yeah, a red cottage in Newfoundland.
Kind of like this one.

Were you dating Cat Berman, Professor
Poole?

And what did you do when Ivy found out?

We know he took a sabbatical from Osler
in 2019, moved to Kingston to write a

book on the penitentiary. Same here, Cat
was killed. Yeah, Cat worked in a

library that housed some of the
penitentiary archives. They might have

there. We haven't confirmed it, but
after Cat was killed, Garrett Poole went

back home and eventually started the
Corky Club. It's possible he was simply

interested in the case. They lived in
the same city. Maybe you read about it

the newspaper. Yeah, except that now
we're thinking that he was sleeping with

Cat. So he's either obsessed with the
woman he loves, Or he's a murdering

narcissist who's spent the last three
years daring his students to catch him.

Who the hell are we dealing with?

We're about to find out.

Yes, I was sleeping with Kat Berman in
2019.

Our relationship has nothing to do with
her murder. I didn't kill her.

I loved her.

You used her murder as fodder for a
university class. I want to solve the

So did Ivy. And from the looks of it,
she got dangerously close to the truth.

got a warrant to search your
communication, and you were not lying

inbox being a mess, but we found this in
your trash.

What is this?

Ivy's email? The one that you couldn't
find. It was sent the night she was

killed, but forgive me, I...

I left my glasses on my desk.

Perhaps you could read it out to us.

I know you were dating Kat.

This isn't what it looks like. Come on.
No?

Because you deleted a very clear message
from Ivy that would give you a very

clear motive for murder.

And let's face it, it might be easier
just to get rid of her than to have to

track down and destroy 2 ,000 copies of
a book with a very damning detail on it.

I did not kill Ivy out of some kind of
self -preservation because I did not

Kat. Do you understand?

Then why would you lie to her? Do you
have any idea how difficult it is to be

male professor these days?

I did not want the fact that I slept
with Kat to get out, okay? It's not

I killed her. It's because I would be
ruined. I'd be canceled. I would lose

everything. Yeah, but Ivy still knew.

So what'd you do?

Go after her? Yeah, your office is very,
very close to where she was killed.

Yeah, but I wasn't at my office. Where
were you?

I was with a colleague at her office.
Who?

Sarah Nielsen.

I'm working with her on my new book. I
was with her from 9 .30 to midnight.

Sarah Nielsen, the campus therapist. Did
you know that Sarah was treating Heidi?

I mean... Yes.

How?

Because I introduced them.

Do you handpick all your students'
therapists?

Maybe you got your pal to talk to Ivy
for the same reason you trashed that

email. Because you didn't want the world
to know that you and Ivy were also in a

sexual relationship.

That would make you two for two.

Two relationship, two students.

Ivy never told me that she and Garrett
Poole were sleeping together. I'd have

report that.

Even though you're friends.

Ethics outweigh friendship, detective.
So do morals.

And the night Ivy was killed.

Well, Garrett was with me in my office
till well after midnight. We were

on his new book.

Whatever was happening with Ivy,
Garrett's telling the truth about that

That's helpful, Sarah. Thank you.

Did forensics come back on those fibers
in Ivy's hand? I was just about to call

you. They're from a cord used in
retractable key card fobs.

What, like the one Poole used to let us
into his office?

It looked long enough to wrap around
Ivy's hand, cause rope burn.

I knew we shouldn't have let him go. No,
the man had an alibi. It was verified.

But if you find the cord, I can test it
for Ivy's DNA.

Thanks, Lucy. Stand by.

Okay, you two, we need to be... Very
strategic here, because whether or not

there's DNA on that cord... Poole's
alibi still stands.

However, in my experience, even the most
bulletproof of alibis will weaken when

faced with a fear of obstructing
justice.

So if we tell ethical, moral Sarah that
we've got something against Poole, she

might bend. And if you gild the lily by
showing her a little more of the horror

of the crime she's covering up... She
might break.

And you, uh, put a spent team on the
wall. Nothing I'd rather do. Go break

alibi.

Garrett.

Thank God they released you. You okay?

Yeah, I'm fine. I'm fine.

Thanks for talking to the cops. You're a
lifesaver.

Um... Garrett.

Yeah? Is there anything that you want to
tell me?

About what?

About Ivy.

Garrett, I just lied for you.

You know I didn't hurt her, right?

You know that.

Of course you didn't.

But nothing.

Why should we give some myopic cops any
window of opportunity to pin this on me?

I left your office. I was out walking
around the campus just processing all

these great ideas that you had for the
last chapter, you know?

You're amazing.

You know that, right?

Oh, Tom.

God, I'm so lucky to have you.

What do you mean?

I mean, you're loyal and you're faithful
and

you're so smart.

It's just pure.

There's no silliness.

There's no messy feelings getting in the
way.

Why are you showing me these?

Because we believe your friend Garrett
Poole did that to Ivy Abbott. That's

impossible. I told you that we work
together.

It's amazing what people will do to
protect a friend.

What do you have in your pocket?

Come on, show me.

Okay, so you're by yourself.

It's nighttime.

Someone's following you.

Out of all of this, what do you use to
defend yourself?

So, they have a knife.

You have a pen.

I mean, compared to you, right now, Ivy
was lucky. She had her keys on her.

Intertwined them between her fingers in
the hope that she could take a swing and

then run.

But she didn't.

Because someone stabbed her in the side
of the neck before she got the chance.

Why would Garrett do this?

Ivy learned that there was another
student he was involved with who also

up dead. Cat Berman six years ago. There
were more.

I knew about Ivy.

Right. You knew that Paul was sleeping
with Ivy. Why are you wasting our time?

Okay.

Ivy told me.

I was horrified, but I couldn't always
trust what she said.

I told her it wasn't appropriate.

And she told me that she was too scared
to break up with him.

Now, I could never imagine Garrett
threatening a woman.

Oh, this looks more than a threat,
doesn't it?

Garrett wouldn't hurt anyone.

Come on, Sarah.

Predators don't just hide in the
shadows. They are in nice offices, in

homes, in positions of power.

And you are enabling it.

Why?

I didn't want Garrett to be ruined.

What if Garrett was telling the truth?
What if Ivy was lying?

But she wasn't. So don't lie for him.

Garrett was in my office with me until
11 p .m.

I'm sorry.

I never thought that he could do
something like this. So when he asked me

that we were together until midnight...

Detective, some word?

Spin team just called. Poole is on the
move. He's got a suitcase with him. I'll

deal with Vera. You go.

Very good.

Keep up.

Dr. Poole!

Dear Poole!

Police! Stop!

What the hell is going on here?

I didn't do anything.

We'll see about that.

Garrett Poole, you're under arrest for
murder of Ivy Abbott.

I was headed to Union Station.

I'm catching a train to go to Hudson
Valley to see a friend. I'm not guilty

anything. Well, the jury's out on that.
But we'll have a clearer picture once

forensics comes back with the key fob.
You see, we believe it was the last

that... Ivy Abbott grabbed four before
she died.

You knew it was only a matter of time
before Ivy outed you as Kat's killer, so

you got rid of her to save yourself.

I didn't kill Ivy. I didn't kill Kat. I
told you I loved them, both of them. You

preyed on two young students, and both
have ended up dead.

Is that the results?

The DNA test?

What does it say?

What does it say?

Negative for Ivy's DNA.

Yeah, I told you. I told you I didn't
kill anyone.

Then why did you ask a colleague to
fabricate an alibi for you? I didn't ask

to do that.

It was her idea.

So she just came up with this whole plan
all by herself. Why?

Sarah is a friend, okay? She's a close
friend. She adores me. She'd do anything

for me. So when we found out that Ivy
was killed, a student we both knew...

Sarah suggested that we just say that we
were together, you know, just to keep

things tidy.

So one more time, where were you? At 11
o 'clock, I went out for a walk, and

Sarah stayed behind and worked on my
edits.

Leaving you both alone and unaccounted
for at the time of Ivy Abbott's murder.

Let's get Sarah's interview up. Yep, I'm
on it.

What do you have in your pocket?

No, it's nothing.

Okay,

so you're alone.

It's nighttime.

The white key card. It's not the
official blue one the rest of the staff

It's temporary.

She tried to hide it, which means she
got rid of her official card and the fob

that went with it.

And as Poole said...

She doors him. She'd do anything to help
him.

Sarah Nielsen was inside Ivy's head.
Yeah, she knew she could kill Ivy and

the finger at any number of people in
Ivy's life.

Even pointed you two toward a stalker.
And all the while, she was covering for

Poole, which also gave herself an alibi.

That's some fancy footwork.

But then for some reason, she decided to
throw Poole under the bus.

Why? Well, because we offered him up as
a patsy.

And if Sarah's smart, the only piece of
hard evidence that we hope to test is

long gone. Finding that fob wouldn't
help.

I'm Sarah's defense lawyer. First thing
I'd say, everyone at Osler has that fob.

30 ,000 people could be your killer.

I like this game. Okay.

Well, what would you say if I said to
you, your client has no alibi? She was

her office.

Working. The therapist's offices don't
have cameras. I checked.

Thank you, Counselor.

But I have the floor.

Oh. You don't have my client's prints on
the murder weapon because you don't

have a murder weapon. No sign of her on
CCTV.

At least not a recognizable Sarah.

Okay, but what is a recognizable Sarah?
The woman is a cipher. I don't think

I've seen the real Sarah this entire
time.

This... This could be the real Sarah.

This just pulls one big book, right? Got
him tenure, but...

Doesn't read like his earlier papers.
Listen to this language. As Anna Freud

posited in 1936, defense mechanisms
operate unconsciously to protect the

Repression, rejection, sublimation,
displacement.

Sigmund Freud swung at these conditions
with a hammer. But Anna Freud believed

in time, layers, and patience. She
unpacked these emotions with care and

them with a watercolor brush.

That's exactly what Harris had asked me
first, Matt.

You think...

That's her research?

And she gave it all to Poole?

Romantic, isn't it?

It certainly is.

And that's how we break her.

Thanks for meeting me here, Sarah.

How are you feeling?

I'm a little stunned. I can't believe
that Garrett said it was my idea to lie

about his alibi.

Yeah, well, we saw right through that.

Well, I'm just glad that you caught him.

Yeah.

But it's not over yet. We still have to
put him behind bars and...

And there are aspects of both Ivy and
Kat's cases that we just still don't

understand. So I'm hoping you can help.

Well, I don't know Kat.

Oh, that's okay.

Kat's murder was almost exactly like
Ivy's. And Ivy, you know Garrett.

You're the expert here, not me.

I'm so curious about your perspective.

I've already told you everything I know.

Facts. Yeah, but...

I'm looking for feelings. And you were
practically inside their heads. I mean,

you were Ivy's therapist and Garrett's
muse.

What do you mean, Garrett's muse?

Oh, Sarah, I read his book.

Those chapters on defense mechanisms,
impulsivity, emotional dysregulation,

was all you.

No, no, no, no, no, no. It wasn't all
me. We worked together.

On your ideas?

Well, I wanted to help him.

Yeah, like you.

Helped him with his alibi?

Hey, it's okay.

I know it's not your fault.

I think that Garrett was able to get
away with these murders because he

manipulated his victims, you included.

This guy was very careful.

No, no, there's careful and then there's
controlling.

What do you mean?

Well, Ivy mentioned that Garrett asked
to track her phone.

That's why she was so scared.

He liked to lead in relationships, to
have the upper hand.

Was he like that with you, too, in your
relationship?

Well, Garrett and I, we're just friends.

Really?

Fair. Come on. I can tell when a woman
is in love.

Garrett knew how you felt, and he took
advantage of that?

What are you suggesting?

That I'm weak? No. God, no.

No, I've, uh... I've been there myself.

Huh.

My rookie year, I fell absolutely head
over heels.

With a guy that I worked with.

I became obsessed.

I memorized his schedule. I followed him
around.

I would make excuses to work together.

Did he like you back?

He liked my work.

He liked it so much that sometimes he
would claim it as his own.

Yeah, eventually he did want more than
just my work.

So he did like you back?

Mm -hmm. Yeah.

But he didn't like me enough to get
serious because it turns out he was

the entire time.

Oh. And I wanted a kid.

I wanted a family. That's terrible. At
least Garrett isn't married.

Huh? No.

He is otherwise engaged. He spends his
time on frivolous things but gives you

just enough to hang on.

Kind words, empty promises, and all the
while, your time marches on. Your window

is closing.

I have always had feelings for Garrett.

But he said that we shouldn't cross the
line, that we're colleagues.

But he crosses the line with his
students. But that's none of my

have accepted that we are just friends.

No, friends don't steal a friend's work.
Friends don't use their friends to try

to cover up their affairs with students.

And friends don't blame their friends
for their crimes.

Or maybe they do.

See, I think you might be doing exactly
that to Garrett.

What are you talking about?

Sarah, how would you define projection?

It's when someone attributes their own
undesirable feelings, thoughts, and

behaviors to somebody else.

Okay, so like when you suggested that
Ivy was borderline with a touch of

paranoid personality disorder and
intense emotions, fear of abandonment,

impulsivity, delusion. I am not
delusional, Detective. And I actually,

nothing but try to help you. Yeah.

Well, you've been very helpful.

When you wanted me to trust you and like
you, you told me everything I wanted to

hear.

I've read your notes, and I made some of
my own, and I think all those things

you were saying about Ivy, you were
really talking about yourself.

Sarah, stop.

No, no, no, no, no, no. I'm done here.
From the moment that I walked into that

office, you've been trying to manipulate
me. And now you are trying to turn the

tables with anger and contempt, and it's
not going to work.

Was that your attempt at empathizing in
there? At relating?

God, you are so out of your depth. You
should be embarrassed. See, you're

projecting again. You've been carrying a
torch for that man for ten years. Ten

years of him stealing your work, tossing
you scraps while he screws his

students. And you know it's shameful,
and you still can't stop.

I don't need Garrett. No, you don't, but
you want him.

You want him fully and forever, and you
know he wants you too. You just needed a

little nudge.

You know that one day he's going to wake
up and look at you and see what is

right in front of him, what's been here
all along. You just needed those girls

to get out of the way.

They're baubles.

They're trinkets. You.

You are the real thing.

So you stabbed Kat outside her house.
You tracked Ivy's phone and you killed

her. No, no. You have no proof. I know
that you threw away your key card. And

Ivy was smart.

She grabbed it, didn't she?

As she was dying, because in her last
moment, she wanted to leave a trace.

Someone stop her. Someone please stop
this monster. Ivy was a child, okay? An

idiotic fool.

And she thought that Garrett was going
to, what, leave his job and marry her? I

tried to play nice. How? I told her to
leave. I said leave town.

But she stuck around. She didn't listen.
Garrett didn't listen either? No, he

never does. I don't know what I have to
do. And that's why you threw him under

the bus.

To make him listen. To make him yours.

Yes. Yes, because then it would finally
be me and him, and I would stand by him,

and I would visit him, and when he got
out of prison, he would know who really

loved him.

I wonder if he's going to visit you.

You okay?

Yeah.

I think I used a bit more hammer than I
did watercolor.

Well, whatever the tool, you still
painted our killer into a corner.

Never easy to corner another woman.