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- Hey, beauty.
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- What's up, beautiful?
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What's your name?
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- Hey, what's your name?
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- I'm Kevin.
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- Hi, Kevin. - I'm Dakota.
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- [Man] How you doin', honey?
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- I'm good, and you?
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- [Man] Good, what's your name?
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- I'm Lara.
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- [Man] Lara? - Yeah.
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- Listen, Lara, do you think you can give us a hand here?
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Let me tell you a little bit what we're doing.
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We've got a little school project
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that we're doing with those two boys right back there.
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- All right. - Okay?
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And, it's a lot of fun, it's a new experience.
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I think you're gonna like it.
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You wanna give us a try?
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- Sure, why not?
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- [Dakota] What's up, beautiful?
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- What's up?
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- Nice to see you here.
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- [Man] Well, I'll tell you what, honey.
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This is what we're gonna do.
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- All right.
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- [Man] You're gonna have these two lovely boys
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stick their cock in your mouth.
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How do you like that?
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- I like that.
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- [Man] Let's get to it, boys.
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Get her naked. - Okay.
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- [Man] Okay.
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Camera. - Sorry.
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I was trying to throw it, like--
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- [Man] Just leave it behind you.
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Who cares? - Sorry.
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I was trying to-- - Leave it behind you.
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Stop trying to figure things out.
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Just let it happen.
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- Well, well, well-- - Are you pierced?
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- [Man] "Well, well." - Some person asked me
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to do that once, and--
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- [Man] So, that was once.
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- Yeah, I know. - Okay?
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Keep it going, that's good, okay?
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Don't be afraid to fucking kiss her.
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What was that?
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The fuck was that?
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What the fuck?
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You're all tested.
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Everybody here was tested.
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Everybody here's clean.
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Okay?
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- All right. - You're tested?
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- Yeah.
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- [Man] Okay.
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- [Mia] This is one of Lara's first porn shoots.
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She is 21 years old,
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and this is only her fifth time in front of the camera.
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Her plan is to move from Montreal to LA
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and do porn for a few years,
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make a ton of money, and then move on.
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Unfortunately, this plan didn't turn out to be so simple.
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Two months after doing this scene,
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she would contract HIV
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from an infected partner on a porn set.
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(melodious instrumental music)
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(speaking in French)
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- [Woman] There is turmoil tonight
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in the world of pornography.
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- [Man] The health scare continues this morning.
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- [Man] His adult film career is over.
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- [Mia] The media was consumed
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with the story for weeks,
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and Lara Roxx found herself
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at the center of this media frenzy.
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- [Woman] She thought she'd do a short stint in porn movies.
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She says she was firm,
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she would not have any unconventional intercourse,
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and absolutely no scenes without a condom.
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But, she says, her agent warned
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that she wouldn't get much work that way.
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- [Mia] But her 15 minutes of fame were short lived.
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The media exhausted the story and moved on.
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But I couldn't forget about Lara so easily.
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I understood that this story
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was far more complex than the headlines.
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- [Lara] Who's gonna wanna have a dog and kids with me,
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you know, and a house?
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No one.
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- [Mia] I had worked in strip clubs for several years
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and had just finished a documentary
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photo series on sex workers when she made headlines.
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I had met many empowered sex workers
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who understood their limits,
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but unfortunately I also met a lot of girls like Lara
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who didn't really understand where to draw the line.
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I decided to write her a letter, offering to help her,
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if she ever wanted to share her story with the world.
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It took almost a year for her to call, and when she did
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she told me that she'd just
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admitted herself into the hospital.
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She invited me to come and meet her.
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- You want to hear a song I wrote three years ago?
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- [Mia] Yeah.
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♪ Let me introduce myself
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♪ Jump off my freakin' shelf
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♪ Been sitting here for so long ♪
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♪ Now it's time for me to get it on ♪
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♪ I'm lighter than a feather
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♪ Sicker then your cat litter
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♪ Always grow bigger
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♪ You could call me clever
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♪ Kill kill kill kill me?
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♪ What?
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♪ Never
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- You want to see what they do to me?
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They tie me up with these.
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See, that goes around my ankle like this,
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and then they lock it like this, and I can't get out,
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can't go nowhere,
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can't do nothing but cry.
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I want the cure, I want to be a millionaire
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so I could buy the cure.
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Cherry?
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- [Mia] Lara was in the psychiatric ward.
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I felt uncomfortable turning on my camera,
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but she urged me to.
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In her words, she wanted the world to see
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what had become of Lara Roxx.
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As much as she seemed to like the attention,
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I decided that I would wait until she felt more stable
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before filming her again.
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Let's go.
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- [Lara] I was trying to put my shirt on--
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- How are you?
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- So, since I contracted HIV,
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it's been two years and a half,
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and I went through a lot of phases.
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I mean, like...
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I went through a lot of phases.
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Like, right, like,
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Maybe we should...
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I don't know.
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Um...
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Okay, start again.
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I was expecting a reaction from people,
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even from my own family, especially from my own family.
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And I projected it
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and made it happen type of thing, you know?
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I expected my parents to be grossed out,
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to label me as already dead.
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To be ashamed.
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You know.
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And, basically, like, reject me.
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Like, basically, make a cross on me
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and say, "Oh, we don't have this daughter no more."
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Like, that's what I expected.
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(doorbell rings)
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(speaking in French)
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- [Lara] It was my first, my first camera.
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- [Mia] How old were you in this one?
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- [Lara] Ten, nine.
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I didn't like the way my mom dressed me
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for the school picture.
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- [Mia] But what about this one?
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Do you like your hair?
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- [Lara] Yeah, I loved it.
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My dad did it for me.
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- [Mia] Really?
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- [Lara] Yeah.
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- [Mia] How old were you here?
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- [Lara] I'll tell you in a minute.
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- [Mia] That's really cute.
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- So, she kept getting more and more manipulative,
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especially with my parents,
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where she would try to get
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every advantage she could from one side
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or from my father and my mother and,
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it actually got to a point
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where they kept on fighting about her so much.
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It wasn't happy times.
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Well, first of all, our parents are divorced,
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and got divorced basically,
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through the whole process of her
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going through juvenile detention,
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and it got very heavy in the house,
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and my father being in Italy,
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he deals with it over the phone.
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Stop.
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(instrumental rock music)
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- What are you smiling about today, Maury?
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- My next guest says she was just like these girls.
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Her name is Lara.
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At one time, she was an out of control teen,
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was having sex, was running the streets.
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She's here today because she was like all of you kids,
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and now she's gonna pay for it with her life.
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- I had to go, like,
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"I used to do sexual favors for money,
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just like you admit to doing".
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It was like, "So, I went from stripping..."
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Okay, sorry.
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- [Mia] And they wrote this all for you before?
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- Yes, yes.
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I was just like all of you when I was your age.
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But I kept on making bad decisions.
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I went from stripping to getting money for sex
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to making porn videos and having more unprotected sex.
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From that, I contracted HIV.
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I'm going to die.
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Do you hear me?
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I'm going to die.
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It's too late for me to change my fate,
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but it's not too late for you.
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- Everybody, welcome Lara.
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Here she is.
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So, what would you tell these mothers, Lara?
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- Keep on trying.
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Don't give up.
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- You sit down here, Lara.
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I know you're gonna help these moms, okay?
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- These girls were really paying attention
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to what I was telling them, and,
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I guess they kind of look up to me in a sick way,
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and that's, that's not good.
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I think I'm gonna stick to these girls' mind.
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Like, they might not...
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It might not make a difference now,
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but later they'll think about me.
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I have mixed feelings about the Maury show
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because they're scripting...
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They're scripting what I have to say to the people,
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and they're telling me to say stuff like,
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"HIV is a death sentence."
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They're not telling me to say that clearly in those words,
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but it's like, "I have HIV and I'm gonna die,"
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which is pretty much, pretty close.
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And so it's like the whole point of doing the documentary
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is to awake people on how it isn't a death sentence anymore,
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and I'm living a normal life,
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although, yes, I have many doctor's appointments,
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and I have to take these pills every day,
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which really sucks for a 24-year-old, but,
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but then, if that's gonna get me through life
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till I'm 160 years old, it's gonna get me through life.
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They're not approaching this issue the right way,
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and, of course, it's not like
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I'm gonna go tell these teens that,
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"Oh, you can totally catch HIV and it's cool."
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It's not cool, but if you do catch it,
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it's not the end of life, you know?
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- [Mia] We decided to head back to LA
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and revisit some of the people and places that Lara knew
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during her short stint in porn.
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This would be her first time back
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since she tested positive for HIV three years earlier.
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- So, we are now packing for LA!
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Wow!
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Woooo!
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- [Mia] Are you nervous about going?
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- Yeah, I'm kind of...
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Yeah, I'm nervous.
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I keep on having dreams, like, weirder and weirder,
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like about getting ready for LA.
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Like, I also get dreams where I just got my passport
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and then somebody runs off with it, and...
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I get dreams I get stopped at the border.
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The truth is, I'm hoping that everything goes, like,
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not according to the plan,
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because we don't really have like a plan plan,
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but I mean, like, we see everybody we want to see.
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- [Mia] Mm-hmm.
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- And um...
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And, that I say, and I find the words to say,
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what I want to say to those people, you know?
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I'm like this little kid that's been in porn for two months,
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and I'm gonna go to the porn industry in LA
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and talk to them about safe sex?
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Like, nobody's gonna listen, obviously, you know?
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(instrumental rock music)
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So, my agent in Montreal
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didn't want to send me in California yet.
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He thought I wasn't ready yet.
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So I started looking on the internet for agents
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that were already down here,
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and would pay for my way out there.
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And I found this guy, Thomas Hope.
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He had this website, EcstasyModels.com.
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- I came into contact with Lara
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when a friend of mine named Mark Anthony
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gave me a call on the set,
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and said that he would like me to speak to a young lady
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who was interested to come into California and perform.
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And she had performed, I guess,
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in a few projects out there, I don't know,
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but she was ready to, you know, do the big time.
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If you're in the business, California is where it is.
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If you do porn in New York, Miami, it's not the same,
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because we're the porn capital.
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So, I talked to her, we exchanged numbers,
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talked a few times, and I think it was like,
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only like maybe a week, two weeks after we spoke,
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she was actually on the next thing,
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spoke to her in California,
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and immediately got her tested, and got her on the set.
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- Ooh, see?
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Darren James.
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Back up a little bit, take a look at her.
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Look at this body.
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Ooh.
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What's your name?
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- Lara.
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- Lara.
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International Booty.
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Number one.
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What's your age?
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- Mmm, 19.
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- 19.
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I like that.
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Let's make it 18 next time.
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- All right, all right.
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- Turn around.
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Stay right there.
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I want to kiss that, hold on.
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Stay right there.
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I want to kiss that.
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Can you read that?
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"Kiss this."
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Mmm.
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Damn.
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International Booty.
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You see that?
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That's what it's about.
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The booty.
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Mmm!
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Turn around for a minute.
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When's the first time you had sex?
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- I was 16.
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- 16.
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That's what I'm talking about.
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But one thing that's real important,
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she's got some nice fucking tits.
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- After shooting with Darren James,
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I started feeling sick right away,
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so I was, like, always canceling all my bookings.
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And, Thomas started getting nervous
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because I was costing him more
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than I was actually making him.
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I was feverish.
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Like, I had all kinds of cold sweats.
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It was, like, I don't know.
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I never came off of heroin,
355
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but I bet it's kind of like that.
356
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I was convinced I had mono.
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When I was younger and my parents would not permit me
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to go somewhere or something,
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I would break everything in my room,
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so when Daniel Perrault called me
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and told me I shot with somebody that was HIV positive,
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and I was like, "Oh my God. It wasn't mono. It was HIV."
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That's when I started trashing the room.
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- [Mia] One of the people Lara
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had mixed feelings about revisiting was Dr. Sharon Mitchell,
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who diagnosed her as HIV positive.
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In the car ride over to the Adult Industry Medical Clinic,
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I wondered how Lara was going to react
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to the woman who gave her the worst news of her life.
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- Hello, my name is Dr. Sharon Mitchell,
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and I was an actress and a producer, director, stripper,
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and just about anything else
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you can possibly think of
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in the adult entertainment industry for over 21 years,
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and for the past 10 years I've been working
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at AIM Healthcare Foundation.
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I founded AIM for you.
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When I was working in the business,
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there was no organization that provided HIV testing,
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counseling, GYN services,
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or basically a big brother or sister
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that you could come to and talk to
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about your inner-most problems working in the industry.
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So I've assembled a staff
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and this Porn 101 video just for you.
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Oh, my God!
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Hi, honey.
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- Hi.
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- Aha!
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I got married two years ago.
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- [Lara] Seriously?
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- [Sharon] Yeah.
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I'm very happy.
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- [Lara] That's good.
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I'm happy for you.
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- Yes.
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And you?
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How have you been?
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- I've been good.
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- You've been through a lot.
401
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- Yeah. - I mean, you know,
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it's been a long time.
403
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I'm glad that you seem to be doing well.
404
00:20:02,596 --> 00:20:05,899
- Yeah, I think I'm, I just started recently feeling
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like I've become myself again.
406
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- [Sharon] Yeah.
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- Yeah, and even now I don't feel like I'm fully there,
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but it's coming there.
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- You were thrown into such a bad situation.
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I mean, you had just come in,
411
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and it was like the second or third movie you had done.
412
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You just came here for a little while to make money, right?
413
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- Mm-hmm, yeah.
414
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- And you fell in with a bad group of people,
415
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and had very bad luck.
416
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And I'm so sorry for that.
417
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I am so sorry for that.
418
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It was just a, it was a very bad situation.
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- I wish somebody could have told me, like, I don't know.
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I don't know.
421
00:20:42,435 --> 00:20:44,337
I wish somebody would have told me
422
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that agents will try to tell you
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"HIV is just a myth" type of thing, you know?
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- A lot of people want advice,
425
00:20:52,545 --> 00:20:55,148
and when they come in, they, you know,
426
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they look for father figures, and these guys are just--
427
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- Perfect.
428
00:21:00,053 --> 00:21:02,055
- Perfect father figures, and they're gonna tell these girls
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anything you want to hear,
430
00:21:03,290 --> 00:21:04,758
and these girls are gonna believe it.
431
00:21:04,758 --> 00:21:06,359
They're gonna say, "Oh, don't worry about it," you know?
432
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"What are the odds?
433
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A million to one?"
434
00:21:08,662 --> 00:21:10,130
Well, what the fuck difference does it make?
435
00:21:10,130 --> 00:21:11,564
If the odds are a million to one,
436
00:21:11,564 --> 00:21:13,266
and you're one in a million sitting in my chair,
437
00:21:13,266 --> 00:21:14,768
and I'm telling you you have HIV,
438
00:21:14,768 --> 00:21:16,603
what the fuck are you gonna care what the odds are?
439
00:21:16,603 --> 00:21:18,405
Really, you know? - Exactly.
440
00:21:18,405 --> 00:21:20,974
- And, and, you know, these,
441
00:21:20,974 --> 00:21:23,376
these fucking agents drive me crazy, you know.
442
00:21:23,376 --> 00:21:24,210
They do.
443
00:21:24,210 --> 00:21:25,445
They really do.
444
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- [Mia] Do you give advice to girls,
445
00:21:26,746 --> 00:21:29,015
like, that are, like, first-time performers
446
00:21:29,015 --> 00:21:30,283
that you might represent,
447
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or you know, people that have doubt--
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- I do in most cases.
449
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I have, you know, you have this little spiel at AIM
450
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when they go get tested,
451
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and I have the little talk with the girls
452
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with this and that.
453
00:21:41,928 --> 00:21:44,664
But I was under the impression
454
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that she was a performer in Canada, not,
455
00:21:49,235 --> 00:21:53,106
you know, I'm not gonna give her no rundown
456
00:21:53,106 --> 00:21:54,941
just because the state changed.
457
00:21:54,941 --> 00:21:56,209
The way they have sex in Canada,
458
00:21:56,209 --> 00:21:57,744
they have sex in California,
459
00:21:57,744 --> 00:21:59,946
and they probably have sex on the moon the same way.
460
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There was--
461
00:22:01,147 --> 00:22:02,382
I didn't go over this spiel with her.
462
00:22:02,382 --> 00:22:04,284
And she was a know-it-all anyway.
463
00:22:04,284 --> 00:22:06,553
If she was brand new and told me she'd never done a scene,
464
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I probably couldn't have told her what to do.
465
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You could tell this girl nothing.
466
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- My name's Dick Nasty.
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I've been around the porn industry now
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for about 25 years or so.
469
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More recent years,
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apart from being a performer in the movies,
471
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I've been an agent acting on behalf of female talent,
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predominantly coming into the business
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and helping get them work.
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Meriesa Arroyo was one of the girls
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that I was representing at the time of the HIV crisis,
476
00:22:41,421 --> 00:22:43,656
and I had the unhappy duty
477
00:22:43,656 --> 00:22:46,059
of letting her know that she had HIV.
478
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- I knew that we both contracted it from the same person.
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- [Lara] Mm-hmm.
480
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- When I had first been told that I had HIV, I,
481
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you know, the first,
482
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at least the first month, I had a hard time,
483
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I had a hard time looking at myself naked.
484
00:23:02,008 --> 00:23:03,343
- [Lara] You saw HIV.
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00:23:03,343 --> 00:23:04,811
- [Meriesa] I saw HIV.
486
00:23:04,811 --> 00:23:07,480
- I completely stopped shaving and taking care of myself
487
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for like a whole year.
488
00:23:08,815 --> 00:23:10,049
- You did?
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00:23:10,049 --> 00:23:11,718
See, me, it only lasted, you know,
490
00:23:11,718 --> 00:23:13,787
through therapy and through,
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00:23:13,787 --> 00:23:15,054
you know, learning about depression.
492
00:23:15,054 --> 00:23:16,623
I didn't, um--
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00:23:18,091 --> 00:23:20,059
- I didn't have access to that where I'm from, see.
494
00:23:20,059 --> 00:23:23,062
- See, that's what's hard, and that's what I worried about.
495
00:23:23,062 --> 00:23:24,731
You know, the only regret that I've had
496
00:23:24,731 --> 00:23:25,865
for the past couple of years
497
00:23:25,865 --> 00:23:28,001
is the fact that I didn't get
498
00:23:28,001 --> 00:23:29,436
to give you a hug and tell you
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00:23:29,436 --> 00:23:31,070
that I love everything about you.
500
00:23:31,070 --> 00:23:32,572
I'm like one of your biggest fans.
501
00:23:32,572 --> 00:23:35,175
I went out and I decided to become a porn star.
502
00:23:35,175 --> 00:23:37,510
I decided to make X amount of movies.
503
00:23:37,510 --> 00:23:39,946
I decided to make this a personal journey, you know?
504
00:23:39,946 --> 00:23:41,314
And I'm not trying to make this
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00:23:41,314 --> 00:23:43,183
a personal journey in your life,
506
00:23:43,183 --> 00:23:45,018
but I do admire you,
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00:23:45,018 --> 00:23:46,786
and you've helped make me
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a part of the person that I am,
509
00:23:48,488 --> 00:23:50,256
and every fan that loves me,
510
00:23:50,256 --> 00:23:53,293
and every person that looks at me,
511
00:23:53,293 --> 00:23:55,628
looks at me because I love you,
512
00:23:55,628 --> 00:23:57,864
and I will always love you.
513
00:23:59,032 --> 00:24:01,100
- I don't know if it's bad to say this or not,
514
00:24:01,100 --> 00:24:03,803
but I just feel like I'm not alone,
515
00:24:03,803 --> 00:24:06,840
and I'm kind of happy, like, I'm not happy you catched HIV;
516
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:08,775
that's not what I'm saying.
517
00:24:08,775 --> 00:24:11,044
- I'm glad that you don't feel alone,
518
00:24:11,044 --> 00:24:13,513
because if me living the life that I live
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00:24:13,513 --> 00:24:18,184
makes you a more complete person, then I'm doing my job.
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00:24:23,790 --> 00:24:25,391
- [Mia] Lara took me to meet the man
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00:24:25,391 --> 00:24:27,327
she referred to as Papa Bear.
522
00:24:27,327 --> 00:24:30,263
Bill Margold got his start in the adult industry in 1971
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00:24:30,263 --> 00:24:33,533
as a performer and then later an agent.
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00:24:33,533 --> 00:24:34,901
He eventually took on a sort of
525
00:24:34,901 --> 00:24:36,636
paternal role in the business
526
00:24:36,636 --> 00:24:38,905
and opened up his non-profit organization,
527
00:24:38,905 --> 00:24:40,974
"Protecting Adult Welfare".
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00:24:42,242 --> 00:24:44,210
Go back to, like, 2004,
529
00:24:44,210 --> 00:24:46,045
do you remember the day when Lara came--
530
00:24:46,045 --> 00:24:48,548
- I remember the day, I can't tell you the day of the week,
531
00:24:48,548 --> 00:24:50,517
but I know it was April.
532
00:24:50,517 --> 00:24:52,785
I know that Rayveness, who I've always been a friend with,
533
00:24:52,785 --> 00:24:54,087
brought her in here.
534
00:24:54,087 --> 00:24:56,222
She had been diagnosed.
535
00:24:56,222 --> 00:24:58,858
And I remember holding Lara,
536
00:24:58,858 --> 00:25:00,927
and she was shaking.
537
00:25:00,927 --> 00:25:04,197
I had never held a person who shook that much.
538
00:25:04,197 --> 00:25:09,035
And then she felt that she was being comforted by me,
539
00:25:09,035 --> 00:25:12,071
but she, I remember her peeking over the shoulder,
540
00:25:12,071 --> 00:25:14,541
and, it was right here that we did it.
541
00:25:14,541 --> 00:25:17,644
And she noticed, for some reason,
542
00:25:17,644 --> 00:25:19,846
the bear at the end of the couch,
543
00:25:19,846 --> 00:25:24,150
and stopped hugging me and grabbed a hold of the bear,
544
00:25:24,150 --> 00:25:28,187
and basically said, "I want this bear", and quite frankly,
545
00:25:28,187 --> 00:25:29,923
I had never particularly liked that bear.
546
00:25:29,923 --> 00:25:31,224
I had never figured out where the bear
547
00:25:31,224 --> 00:25:32,725
came from in the first place.
548
00:25:32,725 --> 00:25:35,628
It was wearing sunglasses and a trench coat,
549
00:25:35,628 --> 00:25:37,297
and I always wondered what was wrong with that bear
550
00:25:37,297 --> 00:25:38,565
and who gave it to me,
551
00:25:38,565 --> 00:25:40,066
but it was always living at the end of the couch
552
00:25:40,066 --> 00:25:41,267
as if it was inspecting--
553
00:25:41,267 --> 00:25:42,702
- He's an inspector!
554
00:25:42,702 --> 00:25:45,638
- A few days later, somebody called me up and said,
555
00:25:45,638 --> 00:25:46,639
"You're an asshole.
556
00:25:46,639 --> 00:25:47,574
All you do is give them a bear
557
00:25:47,574 --> 00:25:49,342
and then tell them to leave."
558
00:25:49,342 --> 00:25:51,077
And I said, "Well, you're a stupid b--"
559
00:25:51,077 --> 00:25:52,912
You know, I hung up the phone,
560
00:25:52,912 --> 00:25:56,215
and within a day or so that picture came out
561
00:25:56,215 --> 00:25:59,152
of her sitting on the couch with her bear,
562
00:25:59,152 --> 00:26:02,221
and I have never felt more validated.
563
00:26:04,123 --> 00:26:09,095
We've had, since this industry has recorded cases of HIV,
564
00:26:09,095 --> 00:26:12,799
17 heterosexual cases of HIV
565
00:26:12,799 --> 00:26:15,702
in the hundreds of thousands of sex scenes
566
00:26:15,702 --> 00:26:19,005
that have been basically videoed or filmed
567
00:26:19,005 --> 00:26:20,506
since I've been in this industry.
568
00:26:20,506 --> 00:26:23,109
And, again, I who loathe condoms,
569
00:26:23,109 --> 00:26:25,111
wouldn't put one on if my life depended on it,
570
00:26:25,111 --> 00:26:27,480
I'm basically living proof that HIV
571
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,316
is not as easy to catch as you may think it is.
572
00:26:30,316 --> 00:26:32,385
I would be happy to fuck your brains out,
573
00:26:32,385 --> 00:26:35,521
and I guarantee you I won't catch HIV.
574
00:26:37,857 --> 00:26:40,226
- [Lara] Okay, I have nothing to say anymore.
575
00:26:40,226 --> 00:26:41,794
- What, have I embarrassed you?
576
00:26:41,794 --> 00:26:43,029
- Yeah.
577
00:26:43,029 --> 00:26:44,530
- Question: did anybody put a gun to your head
578
00:26:44,530 --> 00:26:46,799
when you performed in this business?
579
00:26:46,799 --> 00:26:49,035
- No, but I don't think I would have made any money
580
00:26:49,035 --> 00:26:50,970
if I said I was condom-only.
581
00:26:50,970 --> 00:26:53,539
- You walked on a razor blade and you got cut.
582
00:26:53,539 --> 00:26:55,141
But you can't point fingers at anybody
583
00:26:55,141 --> 00:26:56,643
for putting that razor blade there--
584
00:26:56,643 --> 00:26:57,877
- [Lara] Who was the razor blade?
585
00:26:57,877 --> 00:26:59,045
- [Bill] Except yourself.
586
00:27:04,384 --> 00:27:05,418
- [Mia] How are you feeling?
587
00:27:05,418 --> 00:27:06,252
- Good.
588
00:27:07,420 --> 00:27:08,921
- [Mia] How has the week going so far?
589
00:27:08,921 --> 00:27:09,756
- Cool.
590
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:24,737
(melodious instrumental music)
591
00:27:27,607 --> 00:27:29,709
- I started in 1975 as a performer.
592
00:27:29,709 --> 00:27:32,545
20 years ago we were just out-of-work actors and actresses.
593
00:27:32,545 --> 00:27:34,213
There was 30 of us, you know.
594
00:27:34,213 --> 00:27:36,382
And we were using condoms most of the time,
595
00:27:36,382 --> 00:27:39,318
and if someone got an STD they would tell someone else,
596
00:27:39,318 --> 00:27:43,256
but it was very rare that someone would get an STD,
597
00:27:43,256 --> 00:27:45,925
because there were so few of us working.
598
00:27:45,925 --> 00:27:47,760
And we always had the choice to use condoms,
599
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:49,662
we always had the choice to pick our partners.
600
00:27:49,662 --> 00:27:53,666
Even when the industry moved to California in 1982
601
00:27:53,666 --> 00:27:56,736
and it became more like 300 people,
602
00:27:56,736 --> 00:27:58,771
now there's between 2000 and 3000 people
603
00:27:58,771 --> 00:28:00,606
that we test a month, just so you know.
604
00:28:00,606 --> 00:28:02,408
It's gotten that big.
605
00:28:02,408 --> 00:28:05,945
But, then it started getting a little,
606
00:28:07,313 --> 00:28:08,548
a little scary.
607
00:28:08,548 --> 00:28:09,916
But I was still able to demand condoms,
608
00:28:09,916 --> 00:28:11,417
because I was, you know,
609
00:28:11,417 --> 00:28:13,753
I was a reputable star at that time,
610
00:28:13,753 --> 00:28:16,022
so I was able to say, "No, I'm not working with him,
611
00:28:16,022 --> 00:28:19,225
and I'm not doing that, and I need a condom for this."
612
00:28:19,225 --> 00:28:21,394
But as the girls became newer and newer,
613
00:28:21,394 --> 00:28:24,330
their choices became less and less.
614
00:28:25,765 --> 00:28:27,800
- [Mia] Do you think a girl can get into this business
615
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,903
and make money without doing anal sex at all?
616
00:28:30,903 --> 00:28:32,338
Today?
617
00:28:32,338 --> 00:28:35,208
- Can someone get in without doing actual anal sex?
618
00:28:35,208 --> 00:28:36,976
It's sort of possible.
619
00:28:36,976 --> 00:28:40,546
If she's 18 and super cute,
620
00:28:40,546 --> 00:28:41,948
she could probably get away with it,
621
00:28:41,948 --> 00:28:45,251
certainly for a while, at least.
622
00:28:45,251 --> 00:28:47,787
If she wants to stay in for a long time,
623
00:28:47,787 --> 00:28:50,289
make a lot of money, no.
624
00:28:51,424 --> 00:28:53,659
You've got to be realistic.
625
00:28:53,659 --> 00:28:56,262
So, that's what the public want to see.
626
00:28:56,262 --> 00:28:58,931
- People now either enter it because of the money
627
00:28:58,931 --> 00:29:01,167
or the sex or the fame, you know?
628
00:29:01,167 --> 00:29:03,202
It boils down to those three reasons,
629
00:29:03,202 --> 00:29:05,271
and the people that have the worst go at it
630
00:29:05,271 --> 00:29:07,306
are the ones that need to be known for something,
631
00:29:07,306 --> 00:29:09,442
so they're willing to do anything, you know,
632
00:29:09,442 --> 00:29:11,878
including sit on a fire hydrant with no lubricant,
633
00:29:11,878 --> 00:29:15,248
and, you know, a goat and six guys and no condoms,
634
00:29:15,248 --> 00:29:17,650
and, you know: "But I'm gonna be on the cover of AVN,
635
00:29:17,650 --> 00:29:19,619
and I'm gonna win Best Actress!" you know?
636
00:29:19,619 --> 00:29:22,155
And it's a very desperate thing to see, you know?
637
00:29:22,155 --> 00:29:23,656
And when I see this,
638
00:29:23,656 --> 00:29:26,526
there are days that I see this and I think to myself,
639
00:29:26,526 --> 00:29:28,161
"My God, are you just,
640
00:29:28,161 --> 00:29:29,662
are you really being of service,
641
00:29:29,662 --> 00:29:31,931
or are you just fattening people up for the kill?"
642
00:29:31,931 --> 00:29:33,900
I mean, what are you really doing here, you know?
643
00:29:33,900 --> 00:29:36,235
I have to ask myself that question at least once a week.
644
00:29:40,239 --> 00:29:41,440
- Hey.
645
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:42,275
- Hey.
646
00:29:45,244 --> 00:29:46,879
Come in.
647
00:29:46,879 --> 00:29:48,514
So, I'm Anita Cannibal.
648
00:29:48,514 --> 00:29:53,319
I started in the business in 1994, in Canada,
649
00:29:54,487 --> 00:29:56,889
in a dive club just like you.
650
00:29:56,889 --> 00:29:58,591
I saw porn as a career advancement
651
00:29:58,591 --> 00:30:00,059
to get what I wanted,
652
00:30:00,059 --> 00:30:02,628
which was the $3,500 a week on the road dancing.
653
00:30:02,628 --> 00:30:06,766
Instead of the $600 Canadian, I'd get $3,500 American.
654
00:30:06,766 --> 00:30:08,501
Big difference. - Mm-hmm, yeah.
655
00:30:08,501 --> 00:30:11,237
- So, Wicked, Vivid, and VCA had a meeting
656
00:30:11,237 --> 00:30:13,840
with all the performers in 1998 to tell us
657
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:15,641
that they were going to be condom-only
658
00:30:15,641 --> 00:30:18,778
and that we would not starve and they would get us work
659
00:30:18,778 --> 00:30:22,014
as long as we held tight and we were condom-only.
660
00:30:22,014 --> 00:30:24,016
I'm like the only one left,
661
00:30:24,016 --> 00:30:27,687
and Wicked is the only company left.
662
00:30:27,687 --> 00:30:32,091
Nobody else is condom-only from that day, and today--
663
00:30:32,091 --> 00:30:33,326
- [Lara] Do you still get work?
664
00:30:33,326 --> 00:30:34,527
- I still get work.
665
00:30:34,527 --> 00:30:35,995
I still get the same amount of work
666
00:30:35,995 --> 00:30:39,198
because I don't feature dance anymore, I do school,
667
00:30:39,198 --> 00:30:40,466
so I'm busy anyway.
668
00:30:40,466 --> 00:30:42,134
So if I try to get work all the time,
669
00:30:42,134 --> 00:30:44,003
I'll get about 25 movies a year.
670
00:30:44,003 --> 00:30:46,439
Other girls will get, like, 25 movies a week.
671
00:30:46,439 --> 00:30:47,907
Which is ridiculous,
672
00:30:47,907 --> 00:30:52,912
but, I won't do non-condom work.
673
00:30:53,512 --> 00:30:54,180
So, fuck it.
674
00:30:54,180 --> 00:30:55,414
I don't care.
675
00:30:55,414 --> 00:30:57,083
I still get the same amount of movies.
676
00:30:58,618 --> 00:31:03,589
I'm critical of the fact that the industry,
677
00:31:05,124 --> 00:31:09,195
as I see the landscape available to me as a woman,
678
00:31:09,195 --> 00:31:13,566
whether it's phone sex, or lap dancing,
679
00:31:13,566 --> 00:31:15,902
or stage dancing, or fucking in the brothel,
680
00:31:15,902 --> 00:31:20,139
fucking on film, sucking dick on stage, whatever,
681
00:31:21,540 --> 00:31:24,977
they should all have the element of safety on the worksite.
682
00:31:24,977 --> 00:31:26,178
And they don't.
683
00:31:27,513 --> 00:31:29,248
Testing doesn't work.
684
00:31:30,116 --> 00:31:31,417
It's failed.
685
00:31:31,417 --> 00:31:33,753
It's a failed system.
686
00:31:33,753 --> 00:31:35,054
And the message that it sends out
687
00:31:35,054 --> 00:31:37,023
to the community at large that,
688
00:31:37,023 --> 00:31:39,659
"Okay, if we get tested, it's all good.
689
00:31:39,659 --> 00:31:40,860
Let's fuck now."
690
00:31:40,860 --> 00:31:44,230
Well, I'm sorry, but if you and I get tested
691
00:31:44,230 --> 00:31:47,099
and you don't have anything and I don't have anything,
692
00:31:47,099 --> 00:31:49,702
okay, great, well, what'd you do last week?
693
00:31:49,702 --> 00:31:52,872
- Who did you have sex with yesterday off set?
694
00:31:52,872 --> 00:31:53,873
- I mean, that's--
695
00:31:53,873 --> 00:31:55,408
- [Lara] Yeah, exactly.
696
00:31:55,408 --> 00:31:58,878
- Your test is only good for, like, if you're in incubation.
697
00:31:58,878 --> 00:32:01,047
I can show you my condoms.
698
00:32:02,148 --> 00:32:03,549
They're right there by your foot.
699
00:32:03,549 --> 00:32:04,984
My little drawer.
700
00:32:04,984 --> 00:32:06,419
- [Lara] Do you have female condoms and stuff?
701
00:32:06,419 --> 00:32:07,987
- [Anita] Yes. - [Lara] Or just men condoms?
702
00:32:07,987 --> 00:32:08,821
Oh, yeah?
703
00:32:08,821 --> 00:32:09,655
- [Anita] Yes.
704
00:32:12,191 --> 00:32:13,759
- [Lara] She's got handcuffs.
705
00:32:13,759 --> 00:32:15,127
- [Anita] I have black condoms
706
00:32:15,127 --> 00:32:16,729
in case you're on your period.
707
00:32:16,729 --> 00:32:18,798
I can't believe you're not dancing still.
708
00:32:18,798 --> 00:32:21,734
It is so fun, especially in Canada featuring.
709
00:32:21,734 --> 00:32:24,136
- I want to stay in the business, but not as a performer.
710
00:32:24,136 --> 00:32:25,304
Like, I mean, I want to make this
711
00:32:25,304 --> 00:32:27,106
a better place for performers.
712
00:32:27,106 --> 00:32:29,308
That's what I really wish for.
713
00:32:29,308 --> 00:32:31,410
I just don't feel that I'm,
714
00:32:31,410 --> 00:32:35,414
I have the strength anymore to be a performer.
715
00:32:35,414 --> 00:32:38,384
- Well, just do, like, go to school
716
00:32:38,384 --> 00:32:40,419
and figure out what it is you want to do.
717
00:32:40,419 --> 00:32:41,253
- Mm-hmm.
718
00:32:41,253 --> 00:32:42,088
That's what I'm doing.
719
00:32:42,088 --> 00:32:43,155
- And talk.
720
00:32:43,155 --> 00:32:44,223
All the time.
721
00:32:45,091 --> 00:32:46,359
You have a gift.
722
00:32:46,359 --> 00:32:47,293
You have HIV.
723
00:32:47,293 --> 00:32:48,394
That's fucking important.
724
00:32:48,394 --> 00:32:50,997
People need to hear about that.
725
00:32:52,798 --> 00:32:53,632
- Well...
726
00:32:54,834 --> 00:32:56,068
I don't know.
727
00:32:56,068 --> 00:32:57,403
I don't, like...
728
00:32:59,405 --> 00:33:00,906
I'm, I don't know.
729
00:33:02,074 --> 00:33:04,910
I'm too tired to be on camera.
730
00:33:18,457 --> 00:33:21,260
- [Mia] So, how's, the trip been for you?
731
00:33:21,260 --> 00:33:22,495
- It's been great.
732
00:33:22,495 --> 00:33:24,930
So much unexpected stuff happened.
733
00:33:30,903 --> 00:33:35,274
I love life, and it breaks my heart when I don't respect it,
734
00:33:35,274 --> 00:33:38,177
and I was looking at myself
735
00:33:38,177 --> 00:33:40,479
not respecting life for a long time.
736
00:33:42,415 --> 00:33:45,484
And I just can't go on that way.
737
00:33:45,484 --> 00:33:48,721
It's like an indirect suicide, you know?
738
00:33:48,721 --> 00:33:52,091
I'm killing what I believe in, you know?
739
00:33:52,091 --> 00:33:54,126
- [Mia] Do you think before you weren't respecting yourself
740
00:33:54,126 --> 00:33:55,694
because you thought,
741
00:33:55,694 --> 00:33:57,630
like, you didn't have self-esteem, or?
742
00:33:57,630 --> 00:34:00,166
- I never did really respect myself.
743
00:34:00,166 --> 00:34:01,667
And it wasn't,
744
00:34:01,667 --> 00:34:04,370
respecting yourself is much bigger than most people think.
745
00:34:04,370 --> 00:34:06,639
Like, I thought I was respecting myself.
746
00:34:06,639 --> 00:34:07,473
I was...
747
00:34:10,342 --> 00:34:12,244
Your question annoyed me.
748
00:34:12,244 --> 00:34:13,079
- [Mia] Me?
749
00:34:13,079 --> 00:34:13,913
- Yeah.
750
00:34:13,913 --> 00:34:14,980
- [Mia] Why, how?
751
00:34:14,980 --> 00:34:17,016
- Because I already answered it.
752
00:34:19,585 --> 00:34:20,586
I don't know.
753
00:34:20,586 --> 00:34:22,021
I just, uh...
754
00:34:22,021 --> 00:34:23,856
What was the question again?
755
00:34:31,330 --> 00:34:33,399
- [Mia] It had been a long week of shooting,
756
00:34:33,399 --> 00:34:36,769
and I started to sense that Lara was feeling overwhelmed.
757
00:34:38,904 --> 00:34:41,574
She told me that she needed some time alone,
758
00:34:41,574 --> 00:34:44,210
but she didn't tell me where she was going,
759
00:34:44,210 --> 00:34:45,611
so I just waited.
760
00:34:52,485 --> 00:34:54,820
We had a bit of an argument tonight.
761
00:34:54,820 --> 00:34:56,222
- Yeah.
762
00:34:56,222 --> 00:34:57,923
It was all my fault.
763
00:34:59,024 --> 00:35:00,559
No, I'm just joking.
764
00:35:00,559 --> 00:35:02,428
- [Mia] Like, when you took off, I was worried because,
765
00:35:02,428 --> 00:35:04,296
like, I know you went off your medication,
766
00:35:04,296 --> 00:35:06,632
and I was afraid that maybe
767
00:35:06,632 --> 00:35:09,835
you'd do something impulsive to--
768
00:35:09,835 --> 00:35:11,137
- To prove a point?
769
00:35:11,137 --> 00:35:12,371
- [Mia] Mm-hmm.
770
00:35:12,371 --> 00:35:14,573
But do you think that we had our little blow-up
771
00:35:14,573 --> 00:35:17,943
because you're stressed out about the film or the shooting?
772
00:35:18,944 --> 00:35:23,749
- I think, well, what started...
773
00:35:23,749 --> 00:35:25,017
Like, I don't know.
774
00:35:25,017 --> 00:35:26,986
Maybe we're both stressed out, but...
775
00:35:28,053 --> 00:35:30,389
Sometimes I felt, like, afraid
776
00:35:30,389 --> 00:35:34,026
that you were just pretending to be my friend and,
777
00:35:34,026 --> 00:35:38,130
so you could get the most out of me for the doc, you know?
778
00:35:38,130 --> 00:35:40,032
The only time I'm gonna really find out
779
00:35:40,032 --> 00:35:41,634
is after the movie comes out, you know?
780
00:35:41,634 --> 00:35:43,702
Like, the only time when
781
00:35:43,702 --> 00:35:47,339
I could really be sure that you're really my friend
782
00:35:47,339 --> 00:35:48,741
is when you're still gonna be
783
00:35:48,741 --> 00:35:50,843
my friend afterwards, you know?
784
00:35:50,843 --> 00:35:55,548
I can't be, like, 100% sure until then.
785
00:35:58,284 --> 00:36:01,687
Like, it always feels like I just want to believe
786
00:36:01,687 --> 00:36:04,557
and I'm fooling myself, you know?
787
00:36:04,557 --> 00:36:06,058
Anyway...
788
00:36:06,058 --> 00:36:08,360
- [Mia] I suppose in the past I was worried
789
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,696
that you didn't really want to do the documentary,
790
00:36:10,696 --> 00:36:14,767
but had felt, well, I was concerned
791
00:36:14,767 --> 00:36:16,602
how much you wanted to do the documentary
792
00:36:16,602 --> 00:36:18,070
and for what reasons.
793
00:36:18,070 --> 00:36:19,004
- Yeah.
794
00:36:19,004 --> 00:36:22,174
I maybe don't want, like,
795
00:36:22,174 --> 00:36:24,443
the attention from my neighbors and everything.
796
00:36:24,443 --> 00:36:26,245
People I've worked with in offices
797
00:36:26,245 --> 00:36:28,881
and that have no idea I'm Lara Roxx
798
00:36:28,881 --> 00:36:31,984
and that will when this movie comes out,
799
00:36:31,984 --> 00:36:35,854
and it's just important for me to confront that
800
00:36:35,854 --> 00:36:40,159
because if I don't do the documentary
801
00:36:40,159 --> 00:36:42,895
because I'm afraid of what people
802
00:36:42,895 --> 00:36:47,600
are gonna think of me after, then it's just,
803
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:48,934
well, I don't know how to say that,
804
00:36:48,934 --> 00:36:51,303
but it's just stupid, you know?
805
00:36:51,303 --> 00:36:55,574
It's just selfish, in a way.
806
00:36:55,574 --> 00:36:57,376
- [Mia] But can you feel proud of this stuff?
807
00:36:57,376 --> 00:36:59,345
Like, Bill Margold was saying, like--
808
00:36:59,345 --> 00:37:01,113
- You should be proud?
809
00:37:01,113 --> 00:37:03,349
Like, I don't feel ashamed.
810
00:37:04,817 --> 00:37:08,687
I don't think I, I don't think it's anything to be proud of,
811
00:37:08,687 --> 00:37:10,122
but I don't think it's something
812
00:37:10,122 --> 00:37:12,791
you should be ashamed of either.
813
00:37:12,791 --> 00:37:13,826
- [Mia] Then why can't you--
814
00:37:13,826 --> 00:37:14,893
- I mean, it's so easy to do.
815
00:37:14,893 --> 00:37:16,228
Like, you can't,
816
00:37:17,563 --> 00:37:21,333
you can't be proud of something that's, like, too easy.
817
00:37:21,333 --> 00:37:23,068
Like, my dad told me I should be proud
818
00:37:23,068 --> 00:37:24,503
I'm courageous and everything,
819
00:37:24,503 --> 00:37:26,272
but I don't think it's courage.
820
00:37:26,272 --> 00:37:27,740
I don't think courage exists.
821
00:37:27,740 --> 00:37:31,176
It's just a lack of fear,
822
00:37:31,176 --> 00:37:33,779
and a lack of fear doesn't mean you're courageous;
823
00:37:33,779 --> 00:37:36,115
it might mean you're stupid.
824
00:37:36,982 --> 00:37:38,317
I love danger.
825
00:37:38,317 --> 00:37:40,219
Like, it's not being courageous;
826
00:37:40,219 --> 00:37:42,955
it's, like, seeking it, you know what I mean?
827
00:37:44,657 --> 00:37:47,426
- [Mia] On the set with T.T. Boy and Darren James
828
00:37:47,426 --> 00:37:49,361
when they asked you to do the double anal,
829
00:37:49,361 --> 00:37:51,764
do you think that you were fearless,
830
00:37:51,764 --> 00:37:53,699
or courageous, to do it?
831
00:37:53,699 --> 00:37:54,800
- That day...
832
00:37:57,636 --> 00:37:59,938
I had like a secret crush on Mark Anthony,
833
00:37:59,938 --> 00:38:02,808
and I was just trying to please him, seriously.
834
00:38:03,709 --> 00:38:04,543
It was...
835
00:38:07,846 --> 00:38:11,517
So, neither fearless or courageous.
836
00:38:12,885 --> 00:38:16,588
Just, like, some chick that likes a guy, you know?
837
00:38:16,588 --> 00:38:18,490
He was the director on the set
838
00:38:18,490 --> 00:38:20,993
where I did the film with Darren James.
839
00:38:20,993 --> 00:38:23,562
He had a huge influence on me, actually, like--
840
00:38:23,562 --> 00:38:26,565
- [Mia] Did he talk you into doing the double anal, or--
841
00:38:26,565 --> 00:38:28,200
- Yeah, I didn't want to do it.
842
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:29,268
I didn't feel like doing it.
843
00:38:29,268 --> 00:38:31,203
I was like, "Well, I was told
844
00:38:31,203 --> 00:38:33,372
I was doing a double penetration scene,"
845
00:38:33,372 --> 00:38:34,873
and he was like,
846
00:38:34,873 --> 00:38:36,575
"Yeah, well, that's it. We're doing double anal."
847
00:38:36,575 --> 00:38:40,112
And he was like, "You would be really helping me out."
848
00:38:40,112 --> 00:38:42,481
Like, he did that friend thing, you know?
849
00:38:42,481 --> 00:38:43,949
"You'd really be helping me out,
850
00:38:43,949 --> 00:38:46,485
because most of the girls come here to do the double anal
851
00:38:46,485 --> 00:38:47,986
and then they chicken out of it,
852
00:38:47,986 --> 00:38:51,557
and, like, we're making this movie about double-anals,
853
00:38:51,557 --> 00:38:53,692
and we have no double-anal scenes.
854
00:38:53,692 --> 00:38:57,930
It would really, like, help me out if you did it."
855
00:38:57,930 --> 00:39:00,099
So I did, you know?
856
00:39:00,099 --> 00:39:00,933
Anyway...
857
00:39:04,937 --> 00:39:06,905
I think he knew.
858
00:39:06,905 --> 00:39:08,440
That's why I blame him.
859
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:09,641
You know?
860
00:39:09,641 --> 00:39:11,643
But I can't blame him for catching HIV,
861
00:39:11,643 --> 00:39:14,146
but I blame him for using me
862
00:39:14,146 --> 00:39:16,315
because he knew I would do anything he told me to
863
00:39:16,315 --> 00:39:18,550
because I had a crush on him.
864
00:39:18,550 --> 00:39:19,385
Anyway...
865
00:39:21,987 --> 00:39:23,856
- [Mia] Did he, has he talked to you
866
00:39:23,856 --> 00:39:25,491
since you tested positive?
867
00:39:25,491 --> 00:39:26,492
- [Lara] No.
868
00:39:31,497 --> 00:39:34,032
(upbeat rock music)
869
00:39:41,306 --> 00:39:44,643
(speaking indistinctly)
870
00:40:20,746 --> 00:40:22,214
- So, welcome to hell.
871
00:40:22,214 --> 00:40:23,148
This is Las Vegas.
872
00:40:23,148 --> 00:40:24,683
It's, uh...
873
00:40:24,683 --> 00:40:26,251
It's gonna be fun.
874
00:40:26,251 --> 00:40:28,754
- The first day we got there, I was feeling claustrophobic,
875
00:40:28,754 --> 00:40:31,824
and I was, like, "Nobody knows who I am anyway,
876
00:40:31,824 --> 00:40:33,292
and, like, what the fuck?"
877
00:40:33,292 --> 00:40:35,194
And then people started coming up to me, and, like,
878
00:40:35,194 --> 00:40:38,096
"Hey, it's so nice to meet you finally," blah, blah, blah,
879
00:40:38,096 --> 00:40:40,432
and I was like, "Yeah..."
880
00:40:40,432 --> 00:40:42,601
And then I didn't expect that.
881
00:40:42,601 --> 00:40:44,002
Vegas is awesome.
882
00:40:45,070 --> 00:40:46,772
I thought it would be like...
883
00:40:46,772 --> 00:40:50,042
I share this booth with Protecting Adult Welfare
884
00:40:50,042 --> 00:40:54,580
because my cause is also for adult welfare, which is,
885
00:40:54,580 --> 00:40:56,982
I'm now president of the Lara Roxx Foundation,
886
00:40:56,982 --> 00:41:01,987
and, um, they're, we're collecting donations,
887
00:41:03,388 --> 00:41:04,723
and basically what the Lara Roxx Foundation does
888
00:41:04,723 --> 00:41:06,925
is spread awareness
889
00:41:07,926 --> 00:41:10,596
within the industry about HIV,
890
00:41:10,596 --> 00:41:13,165
and also to the general public.
891
00:41:18,103 --> 00:41:19,705
- I mean, do you feel like people
892
00:41:19,705 --> 00:41:21,440
should not be shooting scenes without condoms?
893
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,442
Or should be doing a different testing regiment?
894
00:41:23,442 --> 00:41:26,845
- Right, I feel, I feel both.
895
00:41:26,845 --> 00:41:30,082
Like, I feel like people should, not "mandatory condoms".
896
00:41:30,082 --> 00:41:32,451
I don't think the government should impose it.
897
00:41:32,451 --> 00:41:35,320
I think the industry should come to a consensus
898
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:38,590
that it's a condoms-only industry.
899
00:41:38,590 --> 00:41:40,926
We did a double anal penetration with--
900
00:41:40,926 --> 00:41:41,994
- You're so tiny!
901
00:41:41,994 --> 00:41:43,161
How do you...
902
00:41:43,161 --> 00:41:44,429
How can you do something like that?
903
00:41:44,429 --> 00:41:45,931
I can't even hardly get it in my pussy.
904
00:41:45,931 --> 00:41:48,500
- [Lara] Well, I didn't know I could, but, like--
905
00:41:48,500 --> 00:41:49,902
- You'd never done it before?
906
00:41:49,902 --> 00:41:51,537
- [Lara] No, that was the first time.
907
00:41:51,537 --> 00:41:52,371
- On film?
908
00:41:52,371 --> 00:41:53,839
- [Lara] Yeah.
909
00:41:53,839 --> 00:41:54,873
- You're not supposed to do stuff like that on film.
910
00:41:54,873 --> 00:41:55,841
Didn't it hurt?
911
00:41:55,841 --> 00:41:57,276
- Yeah, it did, but I was, like,
912
00:41:57,276 --> 00:42:00,245
picturing myself in a very nice place.
913
00:42:00,245 --> 00:42:01,079
Whatever.
914
00:42:01,079 --> 00:42:01,914
It really hurt.
915
00:42:01,914 --> 00:42:03,415
- Oh, you poor baby!
916
00:42:03,415 --> 00:42:06,084
The industry can be kind of a, you now, kinda neat,
917
00:42:06,084 --> 00:42:08,086
you know, little family type of thing.
918
00:42:08,086 --> 00:42:11,490
But sometimes I think sometimes
919
00:42:11,490 --> 00:42:13,358
people get taken advantage of,
920
00:42:13,358 --> 00:42:15,794
and especially nowadays with the internet
921
00:42:15,794 --> 00:42:17,396
it's becoming more dangerous,
922
00:42:17,396 --> 00:42:18,964
and I think a lot more people
923
00:42:18,964 --> 00:42:20,032
are being taken advantage of,
924
00:42:20,032 --> 00:42:21,934
and I shouldn't be saying this,
925
00:42:21,934 --> 00:42:24,036
but it is true, and we all know that.
926
00:42:25,704 --> 00:42:28,006
- I never thought, like, yesterday I was being all serious,
927
00:42:28,006 --> 00:42:30,475
"This is a really important cause. Donate."
928
00:42:30,475 --> 00:42:32,844
And people were like, "Oh, sorry. I'll come back later,"
929
00:42:32,844 --> 00:42:34,313
and would never come back.
930
00:42:34,313 --> 00:42:36,448
Now I'm like, "I'll flash my tits for you,"
931
00:42:36,448 --> 00:42:38,417
and they're like, "Yeah, sure."
932
00:42:38,417 --> 00:42:39,651
Giving.
933
00:42:39,651 --> 00:42:40,886
They don't care who they're giving to.
934
00:42:40,886 --> 00:42:42,754
All they want is to see ass and tits,
935
00:42:42,754 --> 00:42:45,624
so, you know, like, you gotta use what you have
936
00:42:45,624 --> 00:42:48,026
and give them what they want.
937
00:42:48,026 --> 00:42:49,628
Basically.
938
00:42:49,628 --> 00:42:54,132
It sucks, but that's what life, like, reality of life.
939
00:42:56,168 --> 00:42:57,102
Here's Ron.
940
00:42:58,203 --> 00:42:59,237
- Here's Lara.
941
00:42:59,237 --> 00:43:00,472
Here's Ron.
942
00:43:00,472 --> 00:43:01,673
We're gonna boss this girl around, aren't we?
943
00:43:01,673 --> 00:43:02,941
- [Man] It's a tennis match!
944
00:43:02,941 --> 00:43:05,043
- She's going, "Stop bossing me around!"
945
00:43:05,043 --> 00:43:07,980
- So, Ron knows a lot about HIV,
946
00:43:07,980 --> 00:43:11,316
and I mean, you used to bareback, right?
947
00:43:11,316 --> 00:43:14,152
- Here's where half the crowd disappears.
948
00:43:14,152 --> 00:43:14,987
Ha ha!
949
00:43:14,987 --> 00:43:15,854
That's funny!
950
00:43:15,854 --> 00:43:17,055
You're helping me out.
951
00:43:17,055 --> 00:43:18,256
There's too many people here anyway.
952
00:43:18,256 --> 00:43:19,791
You're eating with a guy, don't bring up HIV.
953
00:43:19,791 --> 00:43:22,828
The guy's gonna go, "Hey, cheque please. Gotta go."
954
00:43:24,029 --> 00:43:26,098
Yes, I've done a lot of bareback movies.
955
00:43:26,098 --> 00:43:27,699
'Cause we're all tested.
956
00:43:27,699 --> 00:43:30,402
I mean, to be totally safe, you should, of course.
957
00:43:30,402 --> 00:43:32,404
But keep in mind, A, we're tested;
958
00:43:32,404 --> 00:43:35,040
B, we pull it out to climax.
959
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:37,175
That takes a lot of the chances of,
960
00:43:37,175 --> 00:43:38,677
other than a cream pie,
961
00:43:38,677 --> 00:43:41,013
you're only risking what's called pre-seminal fluid
962
00:43:41,013 --> 00:43:42,614
or pre-ejaculate.
963
00:43:42,614 --> 00:43:45,150
So there's still a risk, but there's less of a risk,
964
00:43:45,150 --> 00:43:48,820
because the major bulk goes outside the body, you see.
965
00:43:48,820 --> 00:43:50,122
So that's that.
966
00:43:50,122 --> 00:43:51,657
Also, we kind of know each other;
967
00:43:51,657 --> 00:43:53,558
it's kind of a family in some ways.
968
00:43:53,558 --> 00:43:55,394
Now, some of these things that are a little risque,
969
00:43:55,394 --> 00:43:56,995
like Goes to Brazil,
970
00:43:56,995 --> 00:43:58,497
might get a little bit nervous about them,
971
00:43:58,497 --> 00:44:00,699
so, you know, certain things,
972
00:44:00,699 --> 00:44:02,934
you know, make it a little bit safer,
973
00:44:02,934 --> 00:44:05,203
but of course rubbers are the best, we agree.
974
00:44:05,203 --> 00:44:06,738
- I'm really proud of you.
975
00:44:06,738 --> 00:44:08,206
I'm really proud of you. - Thank you.
976
00:44:08,206 --> 00:44:10,409
- I mean, like, I'm getting all, like, emotional.
977
00:44:10,409 --> 00:44:12,310
I'm so proud of you for doing that.
978
00:44:12,310 --> 00:44:13,578
It's huge. - Thank you.
979
00:44:13,578 --> 00:44:15,714
And sometimes I'm asked to give advice to girls
980
00:44:15,714 --> 00:44:17,149
that just got in the industry,
981
00:44:17,149 --> 00:44:20,152
and the number one thing I'll say is respect yourself.
982
00:44:20,152 --> 00:44:23,555
♪ I can't stand to see you cry
983
00:44:23,555 --> 00:44:27,459
♪ Flooding up with the bluest eyes ♪
984
00:44:27,459 --> 00:44:28,827
- What advice would you give her?
985
00:44:28,827 --> 00:44:30,796
She's brand new and has never done a scene yet.
986
00:44:30,796 --> 00:44:32,330
What kind of advice would you give her
987
00:44:32,330 --> 00:44:33,899
coming into the industry, knowing what you know now?
988
00:44:33,899 --> 00:44:35,267
- Yeah.
989
00:44:35,267 --> 00:44:36,702
- [Lara] Don't do anything stupid.
990
00:44:36,702 --> 00:44:37,636
- Yeah?
991
00:44:37,636 --> 00:44:39,004
- [Lara] Like, precisely,
992
00:44:39,004 --> 00:44:41,306
I wish you would do only stuff with condoms.
993
00:44:41,306 --> 00:44:43,375
- Yes. - Yeah.
994
00:44:43,375 --> 00:44:46,511
Yeah, 'cause the test is, like, they use it to, like,
995
00:44:46,511 --> 00:44:48,146
prevent, but it's not prevention;
996
00:44:48,146 --> 00:44:50,415
it's just monitoring, you know?
997
00:44:50,415 --> 00:44:51,983
A condom prevents shit.
998
00:44:51,983 --> 00:44:54,119
No condom, don't do anal.
999
00:44:54,119 --> 00:44:56,021
- Well, I wouldn't, I wouldn't,
1000
00:44:56,021 --> 00:44:57,422
even at home with my boyfriend,
1001
00:44:57,422 --> 00:44:58,857
I wouldn't do anal without a condom.
1002
00:44:58,857 --> 00:44:59,791
- [Lara] Seriously?
1003
00:44:59,791 --> 00:45:00,525
You wouldn't do it at home?
1004
00:45:00,525 --> 00:45:01,760
- Yeah.
1005
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:03,695
- [Lara] Why do it on camera, you know?
1006
00:45:03,695 --> 00:45:05,530
- [Man] There's going to be a lot of pressure on you
1007
00:45:05,530 --> 00:45:07,065
if you do this to do anal.
1008
00:45:07,065 --> 00:45:08,300
There's a lot of pressure.
1009
00:45:08,300 --> 00:45:11,636
- Another one of my big concerns was that
1010
00:45:11,636 --> 00:45:13,538
when I was talking to the people at Vivid,
1011
00:45:13,538 --> 00:45:15,207
Shyla had mentioned that, like,
1012
00:45:15,207 --> 00:45:18,410
90% of the talent has, like, herpes.
1013
00:45:18,410 --> 00:45:19,945
Genital herpes.
1014
00:45:19,945 --> 00:45:22,280
So, I didn't really know that they didn't check for herpes.
1015
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:23,548
So I was just like,
1016
00:45:23,548 --> 00:45:26,118
"Um, I don't know about that. 90%?
1017
00:45:26,118 --> 00:45:27,753
That's kind of high.
1018
00:45:27,753 --> 00:45:29,788
And you guys want me to fuck without a condom?"
1019
00:45:29,788 --> 00:45:32,190
I'm like, "I don't know. I'm gonna have to think about it."
1020
00:45:32,190 --> 00:45:34,092
- When something goes against your ethics,
1021
00:45:34,092 --> 00:45:36,061
you know, like, you just don't do it.
1022
00:45:36,061 --> 00:45:37,963
You have to respect yourself first, you know?
1023
00:45:37,963 --> 00:45:41,233
- How does it feel to be back at one of these conventions?
1024
00:45:41,233 --> 00:45:42,701
- It's great, actually.
1025
00:45:42,701 --> 00:45:44,136
I love it.
1026
00:45:44,136 --> 00:45:45,871
Like, I thought, I wasn't sure what to expect
1027
00:45:45,871 --> 00:45:48,140
from the reactions from the people in the industry,
1028
00:45:48,140 --> 00:45:49,074
and it's great.
1029
00:45:49,074 --> 00:45:50,575
I'm getting great reactions.
1030
00:45:50,575 --> 00:45:53,712
- Now, so you were at PAW all four days talking about this
1031
00:45:53,712 --> 00:45:56,481
and giving out, I'm sure, information to other people
1032
00:45:56,481 --> 00:45:59,084
in porn or not in porn about the dangers,
1033
00:45:59,084 --> 00:46:02,921
the safety precautions that you may want to take out there,
1034
00:46:02,921 --> 00:46:05,290
not just in porn, but in your fucking personal life.
1035
00:46:05,290 --> 00:46:06,124
- Exactly.
1036
00:46:07,259 --> 00:46:09,194
- I have one more introduction to make,
1037
00:46:09,194 --> 00:46:10,929
and it's a little more serious,
1038
00:46:10,929 --> 00:46:13,598
but she's come out here to be part of a documentary,
1039
00:46:13,598 --> 00:46:15,901
and she's gonna get to sign the wall.
1040
00:46:15,901 --> 00:46:19,304
I would like Lara Roxx to come up on stage.
1041
00:46:19,304 --> 00:46:20,772
Come on up.
1042
00:46:20,772 --> 00:46:22,374
Lara Roxx, if you know anything
1043
00:46:22,374 --> 00:46:24,709
about the history of the business,
1044
00:46:24,709 --> 00:46:27,779
was a victim of HIV in 2004.
1045
00:46:29,214 --> 00:46:32,651
This industry has had a few people come down with HIV.
1046
00:46:32,651 --> 00:46:35,487
It is not the fault of the adult entertainment industry.
1047
00:46:35,487 --> 00:46:37,656
It's what we call the roll of the dice
1048
00:46:37,656 --> 00:46:39,457
within the adult entertainment industry.
1049
00:46:39,457 --> 00:46:41,092
She gets to sign the wall,
1050
00:46:41,092 --> 00:46:43,195
and maybe 10 to 15 years from now,
1051
00:46:43,195 --> 00:46:45,163
she'll get to go in the cement too
1052
00:46:45,163 --> 00:46:47,966
to be honored as she well should be.
1053
00:46:48,867 --> 00:46:49,801
- Thank you.
1054
00:46:49,801 --> 00:46:52,470
I really don't know what to say.
1055
00:46:53,471 --> 00:46:54,306
Thanks.
1056
00:46:57,742 --> 00:46:59,578
- [Man] Hang in there.
1057
00:47:02,747 --> 00:47:04,549
- I told Mia that I wanted to be
1058
00:47:04,549 --> 00:47:06,184
the first HIV-positive playmate,
1059
00:47:06,184 --> 00:47:07,552
that it would cool if I could be
1060
00:47:07,552 --> 00:47:09,187
the first HIV-positive playmate.
1061
00:47:09,187 --> 00:47:11,089
And she, whatever, she did something,
1062
00:47:11,089 --> 00:47:14,793
and she calls me back and she's like, "You're too late."
1063
00:47:14,793 --> 00:47:16,361
- "You're too late."
1064
00:47:16,361 --> 00:47:17,195
- [Lara] You are.
1065
00:47:17,195 --> 00:47:18,196
- "She's already there."
1066
00:47:18,196 --> 00:47:19,497
- [Lara] Yeah, exactly.
1067
00:47:19,497 --> 00:47:20,765
"You could be the second one."
1068
00:47:20,765 --> 00:47:21,700
- Right.
1069
00:47:21,700 --> 00:47:23,068
So when did you test positive?
1070
00:47:23,068 --> 00:47:23,902
How old where you?
1071
00:47:23,902 --> 00:47:25,103
- I was 21.
1072
00:47:25,103 --> 00:47:25,937
You?
1073
00:47:25,937 --> 00:47:26,771
- 22.
1074
00:47:26,771 --> 00:47:27,706
- [Lara] Mmm.
1075
00:47:27,706 --> 00:47:29,241
- And I'd never even thought
1076
00:47:29,241 --> 00:47:31,543
that it was a possibility that I could contract it.
1077
00:47:31,543 --> 00:47:33,011
- [Lara] Right.
1078
00:47:33,011 --> 00:47:34,045
- You know, I thought that it was a gay disease
1079
00:47:34,045 --> 00:47:35,914
or an IV drug user disease.
1080
00:47:35,914 --> 00:47:39,351
I kept it, ooh, under wraps completely,
1081
00:47:39,351 --> 00:47:42,621
except for who I had to tell, you know.
1082
00:47:43,455 --> 00:47:45,891
For five years.
1083
00:47:45,891 --> 00:47:47,492
- I didn't have that option, like--
1084
00:47:47,492 --> 00:47:48,693
- [Mia] Or the choice.
1085
00:47:48,693 --> 00:47:50,095
- I'm not sure I would have been able
1086
00:47:50,095 --> 00:47:51,529
to be as strong as you are,
1087
00:47:51,529 --> 00:47:55,300
because it took me five years of watching the process
1088
00:47:55,300 --> 00:47:57,035
and going through my own emotions
1089
00:47:57,035 --> 00:47:59,070
and my own feelings with it,
1090
00:47:59,070 --> 00:48:03,642
and drinking, I went to bed with a bottle of wine, you know.
1091
00:48:03,642 --> 00:48:05,610
And, you know, five years later
1092
00:48:05,610 --> 00:48:09,681
I attempted to take my own life, you know,
1093
00:48:09,681 --> 00:48:14,452
so I can't imagine the impact of having it all, bam.
1094
00:48:14,452 --> 00:48:16,788
I was living to die.
1095
00:48:16,788 --> 00:48:18,990
So I was partying, you know.
1096
00:48:18,990 --> 00:48:20,792
Just, I didn't care, you know,
1097
00:48:20,792 --> 00:48:23,395
just anything to make me feel different
1098
00:48:23,395 --> 00:48:24,896
than what I felt that day.
1099
00:48:24,896 --> 00:48:27,198
Anything to take away the pain that I was feeling,
1100
00:48:27,198 --> 00:48:28,433
you know, of--
1101
00:48:28,433 --> 00:48:29,601
- [Lara] To try to forget about it.
1102
00:48:29,601 --> 00:48:30,535
- Exactly.
1103
00:48:30,535 --> 00:48:31,770
Just want to forget about it.
1104
00:48:31,770 --> 00:48:33,638
So I ended up getting really, really sick,
1105
00:48:33,638 --> 00:48:36,341
so I got a really good taste of what it was like
1106
00:48:36,341 --> 00:48:41,313
to be completely debilitated by the disease.
1107
00:48:51,723 --> 00:48:53,291
- [Lara] You want to help me?
1108
00:48:53,291 --> 00:48:54,592
- [Mia] Help you what?
1109
00:48:54,592 --> 00:48:55,593
- Clean the toilet.
1110
00:48:55,593 --> 00:48:56,761
Help me? - No.
1111
00:48:58,596 --> 00:49:00,131
Hey.
1112
00:49:00,131 --> 00:49:01,366
- Hi!
1113
00:49:01,366 --> 00:49:03,001
- [Lara] Hi, nice shoes.
1114
00:49:03,001 --> 00:49:06,905
(speaking in French)
1115
00:49:08,340 --> 00:49:12,210
- How about we go and have a little drink and wooo-la-oola.
1116
00:49:12,210 --> 00:49:13,044
Non?
1117
00:49:13,044 --> 00:49:13,878
- Non.
1118
00:49:13,878 --> 00:49:16,481
(speaking in French)
1119
00:49:16,481 --> 00:49:17,983
- I'm gonna faint.
1120
00:49:22,087 --> 00:49:23,755
It's like my dream house.
1121
00:49:23,755 --> 00:49:27,292
Like, I used to have this dream when I was a kid,
1122
00:49:27,292 --> 00:49:30,628
like every other day, of, like, this house where
1123
00:49:30,628 --> 00:49:31,763
I could just get lost,
1124
00:49:31,763 --> 00:49:33,631
and then like everywhere I would go
1125
00:49:33,631 --> 00:49:35,700
would bring me somewhere.
1126
00:49:36,835 --> 00:49:39,237
I wish I could buy this house and fix it up
1127
00:49:39,237 --> 00:49:40,672
'cause it's like so,
1128
00:49:40,672 --> 00:49:42,507
like, it's like a haunted house or something.
1129
00:49:42,507 --> 00:49:44,943
And it has so much potential.
1130
00:49:54,285 --> 00:49:57,222
This used to be a mental institute.
1131
00:49:58,623 --> 00:50:00,992
You see the door, it's the original door.
1132
00:50:00,992 --> 00:50:04,129
They would give the pills here.
1133
00:50:04,129 --> 00:50:04,963
Do you see?
1134
00:50:04,963 --> 00:50:06,197
Look at the piano, man.
1135
00:50:06,197 --> 00:50:10,101
This bench is like a church, church bench.
1136
00:50:13,738 --> 00:50:16,541
You see how fucked up it is?
1137
00:50:16,541 --> 00:50:20,178
(mellow instrumental music)
1138
00:50:50,308 --> 00:50:51,543
- [Mia] As time went on,
1139
00:50:51,543 --> 00:50:53,611
Lara became harder and harder to reach.
1140
00:50:53,611 --> 00:50:57,449
Months went by with only the occasional phone call.
1141
00:50:57,449 --> 00:51:00,885
Eventually, she invited me over to film her again.
1142
00:51:00,885 --> 00:51:02,487
- $60 on me.
1143
00:51:02,487 --> 00:51:04,322
She's got 50.
1144
00:51:04,322 --> 00:51:05,423
That's 110.
1145
00:51:05,423 --> 00:51:07,092
That's a gram-point-five.
1146
00:51:07,092 --> 00:51:08,927
So I could make, um...
1147
00:51:10,495 --> 00:51:13,631
I could make like, eight or nine rocks with it.
1148
00:51:13,631 --> 00:51:15,500
- [Mia] How much do you smoke a day
1149
00:51:15,500 --> 00:51:18,103
on crack when you're out?
1150
00:51:18,103 --> 00:51:20,071
- [Lara] $50 worth.
1151
00:51:20,071 --> 00:51:23,975
(speaking in French)
1152
00:51:32,117 --> 00:51:34,119
- [Mia] When did you move into this place?
1153
00:51:35,053 --> 00:51:36,421
- In the month of May.
1154
00:51:36,421 --> 00:51:38,223
I've been having problems with this place.
1155
00:51:38,223 --> 00:51:42,260
I've been having problems with, like, people living here.
1156
00:51:42,260 --> 00:51:46,164
Every day there's like a new guy who comes and tries me.
1157
00:51:46,164 --> 00:51:47,732
- [Mia] What do you mean by "tries".
1158
00:51:47,732 --> 00:51:50,535
- Like, he tries to, like, impose himself on me,
1159
00:51:50,535 --> 00:51:53,138
like walk in here, because I'm a girl,
1160
00:51:53,138 --> 00:51:55,673
blah, blah, blah. I hang out with Black guys; he's Black,
1161
00:51:55,673 --> 00:51:58,476
he thinks he's just gonna walk in here and...
1162
00:51:58,476 --> 00:52:00,979
So I have to constantly defend my turf,
1163
00:52:00,979 --> 00:52:04,749
and I'm not even a thug or something.
1164
00:52:04,749 --> 00:52:09,621
There's people that do drugs, there's people that buy drugs,
1165
00:52:09,621 --> 00:52:11,289
there's people that sell drugs,
1166
00:52:11,289 --> 00:52:13,091
there's people that sell their bodies,
1167
00:52:13,091 --> 00:52:15,260
there's people on welfare,
1168
00:52:16,561 --> 00:52:21,399
and there's like two students, and then that's it.
1169
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:24,202
That's the people in the building.
1170
00:52:24,202 --> 00:52:25,503
I had fever yesterday.
1171
00:52:25,503 --> 00:52:27,071
I've been taking vitamin C,
1172
00:52:27,071 --> 00:52:28,907
cough syrup, ear drops.
1173
00:52:28,907 --> 00:52:31,376
By the way, you wanna put a drop in my ear right now?
1174
00:52:31,376 --> 00:52:32,911
- [Mia] Sure.
1175
00:52:32,911 --> 00:52:35,480
- I don't know, I might have AIDS, but I don't think so.
1176
00:52:37,048 --> 00:52:38,316
Want this?
1177
00:52:41,052 --> 00:52:43,655
It was a pure coincidence that I got back in the ghetto,
1178
00:52:43,655 --> 00:52:48,226
and ghetto mentality never leaves you, never leaves you.
1179
00:52:48,226 --> 00:52:49,827
- [Mia] Is this a ghetto where you live?
1180
00:52:49,827 --> 00:52:50,662
- Yeah.
1181
00:52:52,230 --> 00:52:53,631
This is what I'm saying,
1182
00:52:53,631 --> 00:52:55,900
all these rumors are starting here,
1183
00:52:55,900 --> 00:52:58,403
because my mom doesn't come see me often enough.
1184
00:52:58,403 --> 00:53:01,306
I call my mom, I'm like, I call my sister,
1185
00:53:01,306 --> 00:53:02,840
I call my friends, I'm like,
1186
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:06,211
these people think that I'm gonna be intimidated by them
1187
00:53:06,211 --> 00:53:08,246
because they haven't seen that I have friends.
1188
00:53:08,246 --> 00:53:10,381
They think I'm alone in the world,
1189
00:53:10,381 --> 00:53:11,616
that I'm trying to make friends
1190
00:53:11,616 --> 00:53:13,885
all over again every four months, you know?
1191
00:53:13,885 --> 00:53:15,620
Oh, my kitty cat.
1192
00:53:19,991 --> 00:53:22,393
- [Mia] Have you talked to your dad much?
1193
00:53:22,393 --> 00:53:23,228
No?
1194
00:53:23,228 --> 00:53:24,062
- At all.
1195
00:53:26,531 --> 00:53:28,733
It's a very pretty plant.
1196
00:53:28,733 --> 00:53:29,867
- [Mia] It is.
1197
00:55:17,241 --> 00:55:18,076
- Ahhh.
1198
00:55:20,211 --> 00:55:21,045
Fuck him.
1199
00:55:23,281 --> 00:55:25,049
- [Mia] Lara ended up back in the hospital,
1200
00:55:25,049 --> 00:55:27,618
so I went to visit her.
1201
00:55:27,618 --> 00:55:29,053
Two days after I shot this,
1202
00:55:29,053 --> 00:55:32,256
she was diagnosed with HIV-related tuberculosis
1203
00:55:32,256 --> 00:55:34,492
and was quarantined for six weeks.
1204
00:55:42,066 --> 00:55:43,568
- Okay, let's go back on the other side.
1205
00:55:43,568 --> 00:55:44,602
It's sunnier.
1206
00:55:47,138 --> 00:55:49,741
- [Mia] So, how does it feel to be back at the hospital?
1207
00:55:49,741 --> 00:55:51,075
- Ah, like shit.
1208
00:55:52,310 --> 00:55:55,079
I wish I was back somewhere else.
1209
00:55:55,947 --> 00:55:59,083
- [Mia] The light looks so cool.
1210
00:55:59,083 --> 00:56:00,418
- Yeah, it's pretty light.
1211
00:56:00,418 --> 00:56:03,654
It makes me think of that shot in California.
1212
00:56:03,654 --> 00:56:04,489
- [Mia] Yeah, look.
1213
00:56:04,489 --> 00:56:05,690
It's light like that.
1214
00:56:05,690 --> 00:56:09,193
- Level of stress sometimes is unbearable.
1215
00:56:11,162 --> 00:56:13,564
- [Mia] What do you think you're stressed out about mostly?
1216
00:56:13,564 --> 00:56:16,601
- Well, right now is financially.
1217
00:56:16,601 --> 00:56:19,871
My place, everybody was persecuting me,
1218
00:56:19,871 --> 00:56:23,941
thinking that they didn't know I knew I was Lara Roxx,
1219
00:56:23,941 --> 00:56:27,111
that they were gonna tell me that Lara Roxx and Pascale,
1220
00:56:27,111 --> 00:56:30,181
was the same person was pretty stressful.
1221
00:56:31,849 --> 00:56:33,718
- [Mia] And why was that stressful?
1222
00:56:33,718 --> 00:56:35,219
I don't understand.
1223
00:56:35,219 --> 00:56:37,955
- Well, everybody thinks they don't know who I am.
1224
00:56:37,955 --> 00:56:39,791
I don't know who I am.
1225
00:56:47,231 --> 00:56:51,169
(speaking in French)
1226
00:58:03,741 --> 00:58:04,575
Die.
1227
00:58:39,310 --> 00:58:41,812
I stabbed some motherfucker today for her.
1228
00:58:41,812 --> 00:58:43,014
Yeah.
1229
00:58:43,014 --> 00:58:44,515
- Don't say that. - I was proud.
1230
00:58:44,515 --> 00:58:46,117
Yeah, I'm her lover.
1231
00:58:46,117 --> 00:58:47,552
- Don't say that.
1232
00:58:47,552 --> 00:58:50,621
(speaking in French)
1233
00:58:50,621 --> 00:58:52,390
Oh, yeah, right.
1234
00:58:52,390 --> 00:58:54,025
- I've been doing three years--
1235
00:58:54,025 --> 00:58:55,226
- I want to show you something.
1236
00:58:55,226 --> 00:58:56,460
- In the pen because,
1237
00:58:56,460 --> 00:59:00,298
I've been fucking wrong in my life, and, uh...
1238
00:59:03,067 --> 00:59:04,268
- [Mia] What the fuck?
1239
00:59:04,268 --> 00:59:07,371
- That's the guy's blood on Wolf's shirt.
1240
00:59:07,371 --> 00:59:10,207
- [Wolf] It's okay, it's all safe.
1241
00:59:12,376 --> 00:59:13,644
- [Mia] Man--
1242
00:59:13,644 --> 00:59:17,048
- I'm not proud, but, I did it, I did it by,
1243
00:59:18,249 --> 00:59:20,518
by, by instinct.
1244
00:59:20,518 --> 00:59:24,589
By instinct, 'cause she came here crying.
1245
00:59:28,893 --> 00:59:31,062
"Ooh, yeah. Party, party."
1246
00:59:40,771 --> 00:59:42,940
- It's not the first time he did that.
1247
00:59:44,342 --> 00:59:46,611
So you should accept that.
1248
00:59:46,611 --> 00:59:47,445
No, man.
1249
00:59:47,445 --> 00:59:48,279
Fuckin' wrong.
1250
01:00:06,297 --> 01:00:08,299
- [Mia] Two years ago, when we came back from LA,
1251
01:00:08,299 --> 01:00:10,101
did you think this was where you would be in two years?
1252
01:00:10,101 --> 01:00:10,901
- No.
1253
01:00:11,902 --> 01:00:13,104
No, not at all.
1254
01:00:14,538 --> 01:00:17,608
When I came back from LA, like, I was on a high.
1255
01:00:17,608 --> 01:00:19,143
I felt really good.
1256
01:00:23,047 --> 01:00:24,682
- [Mia] What are you diagnosed with, like,
1257
01:00:24,682 --> 01:00:26,183
for your mental illness?
1258
01:00:26,183 --> 01:00:27,685
- Bipolar.
1259
01:00:27,685 --> 01:00:29,186
- [Mia] Not borderline?
1260
01:00:29,186 --> 01:00:31,322
- Well, this depends.
1261
01:00:31,322 --> 01:00:34,825
Like, some doctor says I'm bipolar and borderline,
1262
01:00:34,825 --> 01:00:37,461
some doctors say I'm just bipolar,
1263
01:00:37,461 --> 01:00:42,066
some doctors say I'm bipolar because of too much drugs.
1264
01:00:43,534 --> 01:00:47,905
I think it's, it's the drugs, really, that are doing this.
1265
01:00:47,905 --> 01:00:50,474
- [Mia] How much drugs do you do?
1266
01:00:50,474 --> 01:00:53,944
- I don't know, like, a gram a day or something.
1267
01:00:53,944 --> 01:00:55,079
- [Mia] Is that considered a lot?
1268
01:00:55,079 --> 01:00:55,913
I don't know.
1269
01:00:55,913 --> 01:00:57,114
- I guess, yeah.
1270
01:00:57,114 --> 01:00:58,582
- [Mia] How much money is that a day?
1271
01:00:58,582 --> 01:01:01,519
- It's like a hundred bucks.
1272
01:01:01,519 --> 01:01:03,954
- [Mia] How do you make your money?
1273
01:01:03,954 --> 01:01:08,125
- Well, this is a massage salon.
1274
01:01:11,495 --> 01:01:13,030
- [Mia] Are you happy like this, or?
1275
01:01:13,030 --> 01:01:14,198
- No, I'm not.
1276
01:01:17,068 --> 01:01:19,503
Like, my relationship is so counter-productive
1277
01:01:19,503 --> 01:01:23,274
that I don't do anything productive.
1278
01:01:26,110 --> 01:01:28,045
- [Mia] Like, you're not taking care of yourself?
1279
01:01:28,045 --> 01:01:29,580
- Mm-mm.
1280
01:01:29,580 --> 01:01:32,717
I don't even fucking look at myself in the mirror anymore.
1281
01:01:36,987 --> 01:01:38,723
I hate this area.
1282
01:01:41,158 --> 01:01:43,394
I hate this area.
1283
01:01:43,394 --> 01:01:44,829
I don't know.
1284
01:01:44,829 --> 01:01:46,597
I'm starting to feel really run-down and sick,
1285
01:01:46,597 --> 01:01:48,299
and I don't know if it's,
1286
01:01:48,299 --> 01:01:50,634
if I should worry, like, that I'm getting AIDS
1287
01:01:50,634 --> 01:01:54,739
or if it's just, like, normal, you know?
1288
01:01:56,874 --> 01:01:58,375
- [Mia] Did you go to a doctor yet?
1289
01:01:58,375 --> 01:01:59,577
- No.
1290
01:01:59,577 --> 01:02:01,545
- [Mia] I think you're looking, I think,
1291
01:02:01,545 --> 01:02:03,514
I find that you look a lot
1292
01:02:03,514 --> 01:02:05,616
more tired than I've ever seen you before.
1293
01:02:05,616 --> 01:02:06,684
- Mmm.
1294
01:02:07,952 --> 01:02:09,453
I am really tired.
1295
01:02:09,453 --> 01:02:12,056
- [Mia] I think you should go to the hospital tomorrow.
1296
01:02:12,056 --> 01:02:14,525
- Yeah, but I'm not gonna go if I'm broke, so...
1297
01:02:14,525 --> 01:02:16,560
- [Mia] How much money do you need?
1298
01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:18,028
- Like at least, like, 20 bucks
1299
01:02:18,028 --> 01:02:19,663
so I could get through the day, and--
1300
01:02:19,663 --> 01:02:20,898
- [Mia] What if I gave you $20.
1301
01:02:20,898 --> 01:02:22,933
Would you go?
1302
01:02:22,933 --> 01:02:25,069
Because I just really want to see you get...
1303
01:02:25,069 --> 01:02:26,637
I'm worried.
1304
01:02:26,637 --> 01:02:28,272
I just want to see them take care of you a bit, you know?
1305
01:02:28,272 --> 01:02:29,073
- Yeah.
1306
01:02:56,600 --> 01:02:58,936
This is my messy, messy bed.
1307
01:03:00,905 --> 01:03:04,275
When I was about 14 I was sleeping,
1308
01:03:04,275 --> 01:03:06,777
like I was alone in the house
1309
01:03:06,777 --> 01:03:10,447
with a close male family member.
1310
01:03:10,447 --> 01:03:15,286
And, he like, I think I had a nightmare or something.
1311
01:03:15,286 --> 01:03:17,354
I can't remember exactly the context,
1312
01:03:17,354 --> 01:03:21,425
but I asked, or he asked, whatever.
1313
01:03:21,425 --> 01:03:25,162
We ended up sleeping in the same bed together,
1314
01:03:25,162 --> 01:03:29,567
and like, a couple of weeks later, he asked me if...
1315
01:03:31,068 --> 01:03:34,104
He said he woke up with a wet dream and he asked me
1316
01:03:34,104 --> 01:03:36,373
if he had touched me.
1317
01:03:36,373 --> 01:03:40,244
Like I was really, I was like, stunned by the question,
1318
01:03:40,244 --> 01:03:42,546
so I said like, "What the fuck?"
1319
01:03:42,546 --> 01:03:47,551
I would have told you if you touched me or something.
1320
01:03:48,953 --> 01:03:51,422
So, I started realizing that I was attractive to men.
1321
01:03:51,422 --> 01:03:54,925
And as I hung out with that same family member,
1322
01:03:54,925 --> 01:03:58,062
like I saw the way he talked to waitresses and to like,
1323
01:03:58,062 --> 01:04:00,431
just random hot women on the street.
1324
01:04:00,431 --> 01:04:02,633
So I thought that was gross and disgusting,
1325
01:04:02,633 --> 01:04:06,670
and that person went kind of from being my hero
1326
01:04:06,670 --> 01:04:08,739
and my role model,
1327
01:04:08,739 --> 01:04:13,744
to being just gross and disgusting and sleazy.
1328
01:04:14,879 --> 01:04:17,248
That's pretty much why I became an escort
1329
01:04:17,248 --> 01:04:20,551
because I realized that
1330
01:04:20,551 --> 01:04:23,787
that's what men wanted from women.
1331
01:04:23,787 --> 01:04:26,090
I think I liked affection,
1332
01:04:26,090 --> 01:04:29,426
but I didn't think it was possible coming from a man.
1333
01:04:33,898 --> 01:04:37,534
It's been six years since I got HIV,
1334
01:04:37,534 --> 01:04:39,770
and what's going on now is,
1335
01:04:41,472 --> 01:04:44,275
well, at one point they thought I was bipolar,
1336
01:04:44,275 --> 01:04:46,143
which is manic-depressive,
1337
01:04:46,143 --> 01:04:47,711
the new word for manic-depressive.
1338
01:04:47,711 --> 01:04:50,848
But now they're finding out that I just
1339
01:04:50,848 --> 01:04:52,650
abuse drugs a bit too much,
1340
01:04:52,650 --> 01:04:55,152
and they say, like, two years from now,
1341
01:04:55,152 --> 01:04:56,720
if I'm still off drugs,
1342
01:04:56,720 --> 01:04:58,989
they're just gonna cut off all medication,
1343
01:04:58,989 --> 01:05:01,725
except for the HIV medication, of course.
1344
01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:05,596
But, um, fucking...
1345
01:05:05,596 --> 01:05:07,164
- [Mia] Is this why you're shaking?
1346
01:05:07,164 --> 01:05:08,899
Because of the meds?
1347
01:05:08,899 --> 01:05:11,168
- No, well, yeah, in a way.
1348
01:05:11,168 --> 01:05:12,436
It's a side effect,
1349
01:05:12,436 --> 01:05:14,204
but in another way, it doesn't always happen.
1350
01:05:14,204 --> 01:05:17,308
It only happens when I'm kind of nervous or uncomfortable.
1351
01:05:17,308 --> 01:05:19,777
- [Mia] Are you nervous and uncomfortable now?
1352
01:05:19,777 --> 01:05:21,345
- I guess.
1353
01:05:21,345 --> 01:05:23,914
'Cause it feels like I'm talking to the whole world.
1354
01:05:23,914 --> 01:05:27,051
I know it's just me and you right now.
1355
01:05:27,051 --> 01:05:29,987
The thing is, I've been in the,
1356
01:05:29,987 --> 01:05:31,922
like, I've been in a regular hospital
1357
01:05:31,922 --> 01:05:34,925
in the psychiatric ward for eight months now.
1358
01:05:34,925 --> 01:05:36,760
I want to make sure this time,
1359
01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:38,595
I really get sick of coming to the hospital,
1360
01:05:38,595 --> 01:05:40,831
and I never want to come back again
1361
01:05:40,831 --> 01:05:43,834
so that I get it good this time.
1362
01:05:43,834 --> 01:05:46,236
- [Mia] What do you hope people learn from it,
1363
01:05:46,236 --> 01:05:47,204
from your story?
1364
01:05:50,140 --> 01:05:51,608
- I don't know.
1365
01:05:51,608 --> 01:05:53,243
I guess they're gonna learn what they have to learn.
1366
01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:04,388
- [Mia] When Lara and I set out
1367
01:06:04,388 --> 01:06:06,390
to make this documentary five years ago,
1368
01:06:06,390 --> 01:06:08,525
I asked her to make a list of people and places
1369
01:06:08,525 --> 01:06:10,494
she would like to revisit.
1370
01:06:10,494 --> 01:06:11,762
Since we started filming,
1371
01:06:11,762 --> 01:06:13,530
she kept referring to juvenile detention
1372
01:06:13,530 --> 01:06:15,632
as where it all began.
1373
01:06:15,632 --> 01:06:17,668
We couldn't get access to the facility,
1374
01:06:17,668 --> 01:06:18,836
but we arranged to meet
1375
01:06:18,836 --> 01:06:21,338
two of her counselors from that time.
1376
01:06:21,338 --> 01:06:24,208
- [Lara] I haven't been there in, like, 10 years.
1377
01:06:25,676 --> 01:06:26,510
- [Mia] There it is.
1378
01:06:26,510 --> 01:06:27,678
Can we get in?
1379
01:06:27,678 --> 01:06:29,413
- [Lara] These people are always here.
1380
01:06:29,413 --> 01:06:30,481
- [Mia] Yeah, you think?
1381
01:06:30,481 --> 01:06:31,882
Is this it? - Yeah.
1382
01:06:31,882 --> 01:06:33,384
- [Mia] This is it?
1383
01:06:40,958 --> 01:06:45,396
- There are two boy units that are, are, like,
1384
01:06:45,396 --> 01:06:48,599
for guys who raped, killed, and stuff.
1385
01:06:48,599 --> 01:06:51,201
My unit was somewhere up there.
1386
01:06:57,341 --> 01:07:00,544
We used to come buy our cigarettes here once a week.
1387
01:07:00,544 --> 01:07:01,378
Here.
1388
01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:05,482
- [Mia] Does, like, being in this little town,
1389
01:07:05,482 --> 01:07:07,217
bring back memories?
1390
01:07:07,217 --> 01:07:08,519
- Yeah.
1391
01:07:08,519 --> 01:07:10,154
I remember kids, like, having sex
1392
01:07:10,154 --> 01:07:12,056
in the back of that little thing there.
1393
01:07:12,056 --> 01:07:13,524
- [Mia] Really?
1394
01:07:13,524 --> 01:07:15,559
- [Lara] Yeah, kids from the youth protection center.
1395
01:07:15,559 --> 01:07:17,094
- [Mia] Is that where you lost your virginity?
1396
01:07:17,094 --> 01:07:17,928
- No.
1397
01:07:17,928 --> 01:07:19,196
I lost it in the park.
1398
01:07:19,196 --> 01:07:21,999
No, actually, I lost it in the bathroom.
1399
01:07:21,999 --> 01:07:23,934
- [Mia] The bathroom of the youth protection center?
1400
01:07:23,934 --> 01:07:27,805
- No, the bathroom of a gas station.
1401
01:07:27,805 --> 01:07:29,506
- [Mia] Are you serious?
1402
01:07:29,506 --> 01:07:30,340
- Yeah.
1403
01:07:45,022 --> 01:07:47,124
(knocks)
1404
01:07:48,992 --> 01:07:50,260
- Hi.
1405
01:07:50,260 --> 01:07:51,261
How are you?
1406
01:13:33,470 --> 01:13:35,772
- [Mia] Did you write down your dream the other day?
1407
01:15:01,291 --> 01:15:03,159
- [Mia] No, you never told me.
1408
01:15:20,443 --> 01:15:21,444
- [Mia] Why?
1409
01:16:24,240 --> 01:16:28,144
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