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When I come up with ideas, they'll just
start from a very, like, primal, I just
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want to see this cute thing on screen.
And then I'll find the meaning and the
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metaphor and the themes to justify why
it should be that. But really, it just
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came from, like, a place of, like, ah,
they're so cute. And wouldn't it be
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awesome if they were gigantic?
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I'm excited.
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And then the girl is, like, the older
one, right?
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I didn't realize they'd be so small.
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Real red pandas are really cute, and I
think that's the main reason why I was
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drawn to making a story about them.
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They've got kind of a belly sometimes.
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They're very tubular, and they have very
long, fluffy tails, more pointed
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snouts. The tail's about 18 inches.
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Oh.
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They feel a little cat -like, kind of
raccoon, kind of bear, maybe a little
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splash of monkey or something.
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Look at it.
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They're totally solitary.
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They don't really communicate with one
another. They're kind of like, you know,
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teenagers. I found a lot of, like,
parallels between red pandas and May
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and her story. Like, red pandas are very
attached to their moms.
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They sleep all day.
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They eat bamboo, but they're not
supposed to eat bamboo. Like, bamboo
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give them enough nutrients.
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so i kind of imagine it's just like a
lazy teenager just eating chips and
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sleeping all day they're native to china
then also it's like red and white like
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chinese but also like the colors of the
canadian flag too so it felt like the
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perfect animal to tell this story about
this chinese canadian teenage girl
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I'm Mei Lin Lee, and ever since I turned
13, I've been doing my own thing,
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making my own moves. 24 -7, 365.
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Turning Red is about Mei, a Chinese
-Canadian girl living in Toronto in
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2002. It's very specific.
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It's a mother -daughter story.
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At its most base level, this film is
about growing up and figuring out who
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are and embracing that.
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Mei Lin!
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Everything changes for May when she
wakes up one morning and discovers she's
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giant eight -foot -tall furry red panda.
And she realizes, oh, like, I can
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control this transformation.
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If I just stay completely calm and even
for the rest of my life, I will stay
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human and it'll be A -OK.
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But that's not how life works.
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So the red panda is basically a metaphor
for magical puberty.
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Just seeing how this girl who thought
she had everything under control
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big and hairy and smelly, an emotional
wreck.
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This panda is incredibly cute.
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It's also true to that time in a girl's
life. In some ways, it's the worst time.
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You're not a kid and you're not an
adult.
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This poor girl, she's looking in a
mirror and seeing that she's got hair
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everywhere and she stinks and she's big
and doesn't fit through the doorway.
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Panda Mae is only half in control. She's
having a great time, but then she's
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like, ah!
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And like, I don't know, that feels very
much like what my teenage years were
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like.
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It's bodily, it's emotional, it's all
about, can I embrace this? Can I grow
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it? Can I still love who I am, knowing
that I've become someone that I'm not
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used to?
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It's the first time in my career where
all the key
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leadership on the show are women.
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And I feel like that sets a very
different vibe.
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It's completely amazing to have this all
-women leadership team. I have spent
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the entirety of my career in meetings
where I was one of very few women.
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Now sitting there and making plans and
it's all women in the room has been this
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really crazy thing and very different
for me.
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Everything's different about this film.
I mean, I don't know how to answer that
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question without starting with Domi.
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She's a good girl, just like I was.
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I first heard of Domi through seeing one
of her 10 -second animation clips.
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I was in college and it was something
that she posted on her blog.
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It was this dancing, twerking hamster to
a K -pop song.
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Who is this girl? She's probably going
to be a really funny director one day.
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When I first started this movie, I was
really determined to make something
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different. We're going to be spending
four or five years of our life on this.
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We've got to go big.
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we cheat the director of red and ever
since we started making this movie we've
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been breaking convention and making
people laugh 24 7 365 legally
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it's 9 to 5 261 on this show we wear
what we want
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say what we want And we will not
hesitate to do spontaneous cartwheels if
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feel so moved.
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Domi is a force of nature. She's a first
-time feature director.
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It's been a while since I've worked with
a first -time director before, and I'm
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loving it.
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In conclusion, welcome to Ritz!
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Did that actually change anything? Yes,
it did.
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So, welcome, everyone.
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Just ignore the camera.
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Everyone. It's not there.
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Don't look right here.
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Making the film, it's just been like a
long marathon, but in the first couple
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years, it was mostly me and Julia, our
screenwriter, and the head of story,
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Rosie Sullivan, the story team, and then
Nick, our editor, and we were just
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working on the reels. Yeah, it feels
like you're part of a pirate ship.
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Because you're all kind of just working
and sweating for, like, these drawings,
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and you're all aiming to make the
director react or respond.
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I started working with her, and pretty
quickly, I felt like this woman is
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impressive, also incredibly clear in her
vision. And then, ta -da, and, like,
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imagine it to look like a comic book
background.
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Thank you, Margaret.
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Great work. So fun.
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She is so unique in how she thinks about
movies, how she communicates her
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vision, her humor, her tone.
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Can I give this up for any of you to see
if it glues within our world?
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Yes. What you're looking for?
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Yes. Sorry.
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I feel like I have to be more of a
director now with the camera.
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The crew slowly grew bigger and bigger.
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To give you a general sense of the...
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And then like last year, it
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just exploded.
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And that was during the pandemic.
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It just so happens that like the busiest
time on the show was when we were all
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working from home.
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It may not be obvious, I don't know, but
making films is a huge kind of team
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effort. And so the more you can
collaborate with the people around you.
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the better the movie's going to be.
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As we were kind of leaving to walk out
the door for getting sent home, Domi
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said, well, maybe I could do like a
coffee time or something just so we can
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in touch with the crew.
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And we all went, oh, what a great idea.
And in the beginning, it really was kind
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of this awesome thing of just being able
to see more than like three people in
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your life.
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And also getting to hear from the
director weekly is pretty cool.
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struggle throughout act two even if
sometimes it's just like a little update
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felt like some kind of connection we are
starting with a couple nominations from
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our dailies team i've been really
surprised because we routinely get a
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and something people coming to it oh
thank
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you exceptionally bad and so of key but
i really love it
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here's to a better 2021 we're coming
together in some of the best way you can
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during pandemic with a giant movie crew
so it's been pretty cool
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my
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job is visual effects supervisor on the
film first woman in 20 years at pixar to
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have that job For almost 15 years, I was
a lighting DP, and so most of my career
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at Pixar has been about lighting,
thinking about how to make the most
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movie possible, how to make a great
experience for the lighting team. Maybe
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little bit of this down here, even
though that would catch the light. How
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engage with the director, how to
coordinate with other departments, how
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groundbreaking stuff.
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And then now I'm in this new role
overseeing heavily tech and some of the
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creative, and I'm now in the leadership
group of running the movie.
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And then at the same time, I became a
mother for the first time.
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I have twins, a boy and a girl.
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I don't know that I ever thought I was
going to have kids.
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You know, there's days where it feels
completely overwhelming, I would say.
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But I also am now a year and a half into
being a mother.
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And I'm two years into this position.
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I love both things dearly, and it's hard
to imagine not having them now.
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And I got married to my amazing wife.
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Paige is the
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battalion chief for the Alameda County
Fire Department.
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She is the highest -ranking woman of
that department, which...
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I am never -endingly proud about.
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She would not love that I'm bragging
about her, but I love to brag about her.
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It's one of my favorite topics.
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Are you going to be able to jump into
the end credit? We're moving it up to 2
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.30, I think. This is Lindsay Collins.
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She is the producer of Turning Red.
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The producer is the one orchestrating
this giant circus.
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She's the ringmaster.
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When people are going, Lizzie's like,
okay, let's make a plan. Let's figure
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how to make this happen.
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So in the race to get this done, we're
probably just going to be working on top
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of each other, which is great.
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Lindsay's so smart. I think she's always
like a million steps ahead so that I
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can worry about like what's happening in
the present.
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Like I'm really good at working within
boxes and limitations.
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And she was really good about like
drawing them out for me to be like crazy
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push up against.
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Just to draw the storyline together
maybe a little bit clearer.
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I feel like I learned so much by
watching her and working with her.
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I see it as the partner to the director.
So that includes being a creative
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partner, but also managing the crew and
surrounding her with all the right
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people. In every meeting, you always
offer ways to move story along, and
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you help production through not just...
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By managing it, but also just from like
an emotional, creative side as well. You
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do. I kind of like it when... This is
Rona Lu. She's the production designer
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Turning Red.
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The production designer is the first
person brought on the show after the
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producer and director.
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You know, we're talking about the values
being like super, super crunched. And
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that's basically because from the very
beginning, their job is to kind of
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out what the movie is going to look
like. And that is everything from
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to sets to color to tone and style. My
role is to collaborate closely with the
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director and make sure that her vision
translates.
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throughout all of the department and
onto the screen.
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Cool, so welcome everyone.
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Today we're gonna kick it off with
Athena and the panda costume shaping.
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For her tail, the lighter part can take
on some of that red. I know I'm
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providing information that other people
need to get their work done.
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Tell them the two sides where there's
the star and the heart.
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I feel like that's the most important
part of my job is to just make sure that
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everybody else feels good about the work
that they're doing.
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Thank you. Okay.
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Good job, everyone. Thank you.
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Thank you. Bye. Thanks.
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Being pregnant while we're in the crunch
of things definitely made me have to
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just trust my team a lot more. It's the
first time in my life where... I was
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comfortable telling my manager, Sophia,
I need to take some time to nap.
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Hey, Rona, where are we?
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We're in the living room area. This is
the entrance to our house.
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And this is our kitty.
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This is my soon -to -be husband. We're
getting a Zoom married on Friday.
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We've been engaged for so long, we
figured now's a good time to do it.
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Being able to step away, touch base with
a loved one, and to say, hey, how's
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your day going?
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And just being really connected in both
of our lives for the first time, that's
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been really comforting.
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I'm an only child, and my dad had to go
away to work a lot, so a lot of the time
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it was just me and my mom.
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We'd go on.
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Chinese bus tours.
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Like, he'd pick the location, and she
would take us to, like, Atlanta or
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Halifax, Prince Edward Island. Maybe
not, like, up front, like, the most
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exciting places, but we would spend,
like, a ton of time just together on the
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bus talking.
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It was good at first, but, you know,
like, everybody, like, you grow up and
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change and you want to have your own
friends and your own life, and it's kind
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just about...
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how that transition happens.
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I love the lighting.
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I love everything in this sequence.
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Great work, you guys.
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It's been a long time since I was 13,
but I just remember it being, like, a
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of highs and lows.
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It's such a turbulent time in a person's
life, especially a girl's, I think.
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Small things can feel super, super
important, and you could love something
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day and hate it the other.
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I didn't even like Sport Town last year,
but now they're literally the greatest
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thing that's ever happened to me!
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This film is very personal to me in that
it was...
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Very much inspired by my own life
growing up in Toronto and being the only
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of my overprotective mom and dad.
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We're about to hop onto a Zoom call with
my parents, and they're going to dig
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through all of the artwork and things
that I've ever created in my life.
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collected all of it. Everything.
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Everything. Where's my parents?
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Hi! Hi, little mojo!
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How's it going? Is it weird having a
whole camera crew in the house?
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Yes. Yes, people, yes, they are around
us.
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They live in Toronto, Canada, still in
the same house that I grew up in. It
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pretty much looks exactly the same every
time I go back.
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You write a letter, remember, to Santa
Claus asking for it.
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Yeah, and then you replied as Santa
Claus.
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Why would Santa Claus ever say that?
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She wrote a table of contents,
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a foreword. Can you read some of your
forewords?
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This is a collection of Domi's writing
during her grade four to six.
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Domi loved writing and drawing when she
was young.
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So my dad would be like my art tutor,
but my mom would encourage my writing.
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So that piece is making me so impressed.
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This one is your name.
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Oh, the Wi -Fi sucks.
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No, he's saying nice things about me and
I can't hear it.
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He's never this generous with his
priest. Come on. Oh, God.
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It's so big.
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In the living room, there's like an ever
-growing shrine dedicated to me.
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It looks like they really love me and
that I'm dead or something.
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And this one is you get six years old
and we get the Canadian citizenship.
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Oh yeah, I remember the judge.
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I heard you guys collected all of my
sketchbooks.
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Let's look through them together.
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Pokemon. Oh yeah, Pokemon.
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That's middle school.
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And then high school is when I started
drawing a lot of like beautiful people.
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If there's boys, then it's close to high
school.
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Oh my God.
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Oh, this is so embarrassing.
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There was like this fan art contest that
I entered where it's like, draw Draco's
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children.
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Okay, maybe we can look at another
sketchbook.
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Mmm, heaven.
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May I remind you what real men look
like?
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There's just so much comedy in female
adolescence.
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that I don't see a lot of. I can't wait
to show people just how weird girls can
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be.
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Because I was totally that as a teen and
a young adult and like now.
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I love how Mae is just a confident dork.
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And she's unapologetic about it.
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I feel like she was the girl that I
wanted to be.
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There's so many elements of me in Mae.
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Spunky.
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loud doesn't care what anyone thinks i
accept and embrace all labels even
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i was a total nerd i was so oblivious to
that and i think that helped me she
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herself never questions who she is and i
think she fights what is expected of
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her but deep down she always knew who
she was and she was always so accepting
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herself i remember being that at some
point and then you know hitting that age
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and then suddenly turning very very shy
when i got acne and then you know and i
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was very aware of my body and all that
stuff and that's what i wanted to
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with you know may turning into a red
panda she's this girl that has her life
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together and then all of a sudden
magical puberty hits it's going to be
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out excuse me are you serious for
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may i really wanted her to sound Oh my
gosh, that's like the best thing ever. I
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wanted her to feel like a real girl.
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Oh my gosh, that was the best thing
ever.
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And so we found Rosalie Chang.
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It's like you feel bad about turning her
down because she's your mom.
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Wow. She just had this really great
voice. It was just like a charming
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imperfection to it.
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Schedule, hurry.
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For me, it was important to design her
in the way that we saw ourselves.
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Her face is round.
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Her ankles are thick.
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We definitely embraced her chunky cute.
It's kind of our design aesthetic for
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our characters and for our sets.
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We were like looking at each other's
faces. We're like, hey, we got moles.
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should have moles.
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And then you're like, hey, Rona, you
have that dip in your lip. Let's put
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in. Hey, Rona, you have really patchy
eyebrows.
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When that part of myself gets celebrated
and the director's like, hey, I like
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that, let's put it in our main
character, you're like, hey, why did I
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for so long?
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Genius! Genius!
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It's happening!
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What are you doing?
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For me, this story is so much my day -to
-day life.
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I have to admit that I am much more the
mom than I am the main character because
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I actually have three kids who are
teens.
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I am surrounded by teenagers and
hormones and puberty at work, and then I
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home and I am equally, if not more,
surrounded by puberty and hormones at
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Are you guys going to walk the dog?
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Or will you take him together?
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Or are you going to take him separate?
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Hi.
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Thank you.
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We're being very well behaved.
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It's not normally good.
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The number one rule in my family, honor
your parents.
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They're the supreme beings who gave you
life. The least you can do in return is
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every single thing they ask.
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I think both of us probably grew up
under a lot of pressure to, you know,
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our parents proud.
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I had that pressure on myself.
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Like, I was very high strung.
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I was really into good grades.
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I was into the image of the perfect
girl.
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I never asked for anything.
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My whole life I've been her perfect
little May -May. Temple duties, grades,
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violin, top dancing.
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Yeah, we've been so good. If they don't
trust us anyway, then what's the point?
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May's struggle in this film is she's
torn between being her mom's good little
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daughter and embracing her like wild.
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inner beast.
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That is a universal struggle that a lot
of kids go through, especially, I think,
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immigrant kids. There's definitely more
of this obligation to carry on your
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family's legacy and make sure that their
sacrifices in coming to a new country
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aren't in vain, but also you're in a new
country, you're experiencing all of
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this crazy, awesome stuff that maybe
your parents didn't get to grow up with.
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They're caught between two worlds, and
that's kind of what I wanted to explore
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in May, and also, like, literally caught
between being, like, a human girl and a
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panda.
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I immigrated to the U .S. when I was 10,
and my mom is very much in
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her Eastern roots.
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And when I came here, you know, I was...
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The good little Chinese girl that I knew
how to be. And then as I get more and
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more exposed to the Western culture and
what it means to be an American
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teenager, my mom and I started to butt
heads. I had to discover how to
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bridge the gap between being a beautiful
daughter, faithful to
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myself, and a good friend.
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In eighth grade, I met my best friend.
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Aya Alladel, she really taught me that
girls can burp
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the alphabet.
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Girls can want to play video games.
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If you trip and you fall on your face,
you can learn to laugh at yourself.
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You don't have to be embarrassed for
your decisions, for your mistakes, for
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you are.
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She really opened my eyes to all of
that.
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This is Bao.
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This is... Your first baby.
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Our first baby.
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Our first baby.
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Rona designed this cute little nose for
him.
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Used our own noses. You look like your
mother.
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I had this short film that I was
developing that became Bao, and Rona was
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the first people that I roped into the
story.
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I was like, dang, she can really paint,
and she has really good taste, and she
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seems really cool.
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I really need an art person to take this
to the next level.
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To be honest, I will follow you to the
ends of the earth. I think Domi is just
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brilliant, brilliant mind.
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I just feel like we click and we can be
so open in communicating with each
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other. We're different enough in certain
areas of our tastes that we can
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collaborate and create something even
better together than if we worked on
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something separately.
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Hey, Lisa. In the movie, Mei and her
family own and take care of a family
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temple. We took several trips to
different historic temples around
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that were built by early Chinese
settlers just to get a feeling of what
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grassroots temples are like.
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I also spent time living behind a temple
with my grandma in China, and I just
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remember it being just a really
lovely...
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I'd make candles, and we would sell them
to visitors of the temples, and I
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learned how to pray properly with my
grandma.
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When we got to, like, building the set
of the temple and dressing it, it was
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really cool, like, seeing those details
that we saw at the temples kind of pop
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up in the background.
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Like, there's just a bottle of vegetable
oil, like, cleaning supplies tucked
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away in the corner.
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They've been around since, like, the
Gold Rush era. A lot of these immigrants
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who came with, like, so little were able
to cobble together a little piece of
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home.
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That kind of felt like the immigrant
spirit. That kind of felt like me and
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and how, like, we, in our art, we are
inspired by Eastern and Western stuff.
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Should we try to match their faces? I
remember you saying, Rona, like, this is
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not a Chinese film. This is a coming -of
-age film.
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But it just happens.
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to be about a Chinese girl.
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We need to really tap into the mind of a
13 year old growing up in 2002, growing
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up in Toronto.
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What did we like when we were 13?
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And we liked Sailor Moon.
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We liked anime.
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The fandoms are what got me really into
anime.
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I was drawing fan art passionately. I
had a secret sketchbook.
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You join an online community.
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you draw fan art and then other people
would comment on it and that would
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encourage you to draw more produce more
and that's kind of just what encouraged
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me to keep drawing i think as a kid it
was like such an escape i know i'm asian
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but i'm in a very white
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It kind of was nice to be connected to
that Asian side of myself.
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I didn't have a boyfriend, so then it's
nice to read about boyfriends.
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Yeah, and a lot of them are drawn and
written by women, too. Right. There was
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lot of stories told from, like, a girl's
point of view. And they're, like, the
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heroes. Yep. They, like, save the day or
they change the hearts of all the boys
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and make them fall for her.
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This is my house.
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This is my boyfriend, Darren.
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My many game consoles.
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I've been using these to de -stress over
quarantine.
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This is this awesome Miyazaki art book I
got about the
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Ghibli Museum.
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I got this rug over quarantine.
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Diane really likes this rug.
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Where's Diane?
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Diane? Don't be scared.
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Don't be scared.
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Don't be scared. Come on.
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She'll come out. She's shy.
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I think I'm...
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craving even more speed as she poofs
into a panda and shoots forward.
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We're paying homage to Anna Mae
throughout the entire movie.
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You can see it in the expressions and
the acting, the starry eyes in Mae when
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she sees a boy that she really, really
loves.
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Uh, Mae?
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Why are you staring at Carter Murphy
Mayhew? We definitely have a lot of
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expertise on the movie about being 13
-year -old girls, for sure.
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There's definitely a...
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uh lived experience there that we get to
bring to the movie making maybe in a
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different way than i would have been
able to say on a movie like wally wow
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scene with may going under the bed and
all of a sudden she's sort of gripped by
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things and she's drawing these sexy
pictures and the conflict there and why
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i draw those things i mean i wasn't
under my bed drawing things but when i
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11 i had a little wooden clothespin
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And I had this mad crush on this woman
that was older than me, but I did not
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know that I was gay at the time.
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And I remember drawing her name on the
clothespin and then flipping it over,
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she played a sport, so I put her number
down.
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And, like, that sat on my desk, and I
would look at it sometimes. You know,
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like, these things, these silly things
you do, I definitely get what Mae's
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doing.
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Did you know that I was like, oh, my
God, am I ready?
459
00:30:41,850 --> 00:30:46,890
To be a production designer? Yeah, will
I be good? We both did it on a short,
460
00:30:47,090 --> 00:30:50,390
but, like, you're a first -time feature.
I would be a first -time feature
461
00:30:50,390 --> 00:30:51,390
production designer.
462
00:30:51,510 --> 00:30:55,930
I figured because I was nervous about
directing for the first time that you
463
00:30:55,930 --> 00:31:00,370
would be nervous about production
designing, but I naively thought, like,
464
00:31:00,370 --> 00:31:02,570
much harder could it be directing a
feature?
465
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:09,980
I was really scared honestly like at the
beginning I mean you know Domi was
466
00:31:09,980 --> 00:31:14,640
intimidating right I mean she's
seriously you were like super talented
467
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:18,500
don't be a diva no I was never worried
about that and it was good too because
468
00:31:18,500 --> 00:31:22,640
you also made me kind of having done
this for a while like you question
469
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:29,620
that I hadn't questioned in a while so I
started in May of 97
470
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:31,760
at Pixar on A Bug's Life.
471
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:35,400
I'd worked in traditional animation, but
at the time, CG animation was a
472
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:36,920
completely different ballgame.
473
00:31:37,220 --> 00:31:41,040
I just remember I would have this
notepad and I would just write down
474
00:31:42,020 --> 00:31:43,900
I was like, is the render farm a zoo?
475
00:31:44,140 --> 00:31:44,919
What's a cookie?
476
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:48,820
Can I have a cookie? They're like, no,
you cannot. A cookie is not the cookie.
477
00:31:48,820 --> 00:31:50,360
was kind of like, here we go.
478
00:31:50,700 --> 00:31:51,860
Welcome to my questions.
479
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:56,740
Danielle was definitely somebody that I
sought out and would not judge you and
480
00:31:56,740 --> 00:31:59,080
give you a nice, clear and concise
answer.
481
00:31:59,999 --> 00:32:05,760
When we export Act 3, is there a way to
do one that just has music?
482
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:10,140
One of the things I love most about
Pixar is that I'm still asking questions
483
00:32:10,140 --> 00:32:16,440
with the same amount of freedom and
safety as I did on the first day I got
484
00:32:16,540 --> 00:32:19,740
It's just kind of a philosophy that I've
kept, and it's something I like to
485
00:32:19,740 --> 00:32:22,760
encourage other people to do as they're
starting on something. It's just, if you
486
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:26,000
don't know, you're probably not the only
one in the room who doesn't know. So
487
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:30,740
ask. We basically started these this
morning, so be gentle.
488
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:38,360
A little bit before I was asked to be
the DP on WALL -E, I thought, oh, I
489
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,460
know if I could ever be a DP. Maybe like
in 10 or 15 years.
490
00:32:41,980 --> 00:32:45,020
Wow, that's great. This one we lit in
five minutes.
491
00:32:46,140 --> 00:32:49,320
And then Andrew Stanton asked me to be
the DP on WALL -E.
492
00:32:49,540 --> 00:32:54,020
And I was terrified because I didn't
think I knew how to do that at all.
493
00:32:54,990 --> 00:32:57,610
I mean, I think we both credit Andrew to
a big degree, frankly.
494
00:32:58,270 --> 00:33:03,530
We both had this encouragement neither
one of us would have asked for until he
495
00:33:03,530 --> 00:33:07,810
kind of said, no, I want you to come do
this. It was an amazing experience. It
496
00:33:07,810 --> 00:33:12,250
was also, you know, half the time
terrifying of just trying to figure out
497
00:33:12,250 --> 00:33:17,310
kind of hang on to who I was and make it
through, even though a lot of times
498
00:33:17,310 --> 00:33:19,270
that felt like I didn't know what I was
doing.
499
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:27,140
But what we then decided to do is some
look stuff that's sort of like, how do
500
00:33:27,140 --> 00:33:29,740
get out of the Pixar look? How do we get
into some new thing?
501
00:33:31,220 --> 00:33:36,320
We were trying to push the boundaries of
style in both storytelling, in the
502
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:40,900
camera, the look of things. Using some
hand -drawn elements, but then you
503
00:33:40,900 --> 00:33:43,140
sprinkle in Asian art influences.
504
00:33:43,700 --> 00:33:48,280
It's been so interesting to take those
pieces and figure out how you can apply
505
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,520
them to a 3D computer animated film.
506
00:33:51,660 --> 00:33:57,920
For me, I really wanted to be a VFX
supervisor that was making sure that
507
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:02,880
had the room to bring their very best,
not telling people what to do, but
508
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:04,380
space for them to shine.
509
00:34:04,980 --> 00:34:09,600
And I have to say, honestly, a lot of
that has started with Rona because she
510
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:13,360
the most collaborative production
designer I have ever worked with far and
511
00:34:13,580 --> 00:34:17,020
And I think it's made a huge difference
to the movie and to people's enjoyment
512
00:34:17,020 --> 00:34:18,080
of making the movie.
513
00:34:20,170 --> 00:34:23,130
And this is the trust and the confidence
I gained.
514
00:34:24,750 --> 00:34:27,350
This isn't just our first concert.
515
00:34:27,610 --> 00:34:33,469
This is our first step into womanhood.
And we have to do it together.
516
00:34:33,949 --> 00:34:39,909
Mae's friends are Miriam, Abby, and
Priya. And they're for dork squad.
517
00:34:40,969 --> 00:34:45,070
They accept her no matter what, red
panda or no panda.
518
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:49,300
I always saw that as the metaphor for
when I found my squad.
519
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:55,440
I love that May has these key
friendships.
520
00:34:55,780 --> 00:34:58,040
I very much am that person myself.
521
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:02,580
I always was the kid who had like two or
three best friends.
522
00:35:02,780 --> 00:35:06,060
Those kind of quirky, dorky people who
made you laugh.
523
00:35:06,580 --> 00:35:12,420
Equally insecure about what was going on
in high school. We'd get invited to the
524
00:35:12,420 --> 00:35:14,100
party and we'd be like, oh, okay, cool.
525
00:35:15,109 --> 00:35:19,670
And then we'd drive over to the party,
and we'd sit outside for a minute, and
526
00:35:19,670 --> 00:35:21,130
then we were like, let's go get a cake.
527
00:35:23,230 --> 00:35:27,330
And then we'd eat a cake, like a whole
cake, in the car, and then go home.
528
00:35:29,430 --> 00:35:33,470
It was about friends that listened to
that moment when you were like, I'm not
529
00:35:33,470 --> 00:35:37,050
comfortable going in, or I'm not
confident enough to do this, and all I
530
00:35:37,050 --> 00:35:38,630
want to do is go hang out with you guys.
531
00:35:40,690 --> 00:35:41,830
Hi, sorry I'm late.
532
00:35:43,660 --> 00:35:47,920
Figuring out how to be comfortable in
the room and finding my voice took a
533
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:51,700
while. When I first started, I was
definitely more nervous.
534
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:55,120
I was one of the few women in the story
department.
535
00:35:55,840 --> 00:36:00,940
What helped a lot for me was a female
story artist support group called the
536
00:36:00,940 --> 00:36:07,040
Story Artistas, led by Mary Coleman and
Nicole Grindle. They were like, yeah, I
537
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:11,260
want you guys to get comfortable stating
out loud what your goals are.
538
00:36:11,850 --> 00:36:15,190
And I think that was, like, one lunch
where, like, I, like, meekly said out
539
00:36:15,190 --> 00:36:16,990
loud, like, I want to be a director.
540
00:36:17,370 --> 00:36:20,770
Oh. Oh, yeah, I'm really feeling that
anger.
541
00:36:21,170 --> 00:36:24,070
She's, like, launching herself up.
Sorry, I'm not.
542
00:36:24,470 --> 00:36:27,410
You could play Ming a little bit more in
slow -mo as well.
543
00:36:27,710 --> 00:36:30,410
Yeah, otherwise it's looking good.
Anyone else have thoughts?
544
00:36:30,750 --> 00:36:35,630
Notes? Mimi, there you are. Hey, Mom.
You're ten minutes late. What happened?
545
00:36:35,750 --> 00:36:40,970
Are you hurt? Are you hungry? Um, Ming
is, like, like a force to be reckoned
546
00:36:40,970 --> 00:36:41,970
with.
547
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:47,680
She's just a sweet, innocent child. How
dare you take advantage of her? When
548
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:53,140
Sandra Oh became the voice of Ming, it
just felt like her character is starting
549
00:36:53,140 --> 00:36:56,440
to flesh out. I knew you were trouble.
550
00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:01,920
Sandra's so funny, but she also has so
much range. She added that missing piece
551
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,060
to the puzzle of Ming.
552
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,360
I have a double -jointed elbow. Look, I
can make a perfect circle.
553
00:37:08,140 --> 00:37:09,140
That was great.
554
00:37:09,610 --> 00:37:13,950
I think in terms of design, you want her
to have the really powerful shoulders
555
00:37:13,950 --> 00:37:18,310
with these, like, thin eyebrows, kind of
like Chinese ladies from, like, the 60s
556
00:37:18,310 --> 00:37:19,310
with the qipao.
557
00:37:19,490 --> 00:37:23,310
Like I wanted traditional Chinese mixed
with, like, working girl.
558
00:37:29,110 --> 00:37:34,390
We definitely couldn't have written Ming
without, like, input from Lindsay and,
559
00:37:34,490 --> 00:37:36,690
like, other moms on the show.
560
00:37:39,630 --> 00:37:43,450
I came at it purely from the point of
view of, like, the oppressed teenage
561
00:37:43,450 --> 00:37:44,450
daughter.
562
00:37:45,010 --> 00:37:47,890
So it was really helpful, like, hearing
the other side.
563
00:37:48,110 --> 00:37:50,930
You don't know everything. Like, you're
making it up as you go along.
564
00:37:51,550 --> 00:37:55,950
What I love about Ming is that she's not
kind of one -sided cookie -cutter
565
00:37:55,950 --> 00:38:00,790
character, and certainly not as a mom.
And as a mom myself, I can appreciate
566
00:38:00,790 --> 00:38:02,590
those moments.
567
00:38:03,030 --> 00:38:03,988
Thanks, Lonnie.
568
00:38:03,990 --> 00:38:04,990
Mm -hmm.
569
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:10,280
So will you remind me before we sit down
to dinner to RSVP for your fall
570
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:11,480
festival? Yeah.
571
00:38:12,700 --> 00:38:16,960
You're having conversations that you are
like, is this even the right
572
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:20,740
conversation to be having? Am I supposed
to be playing more of a mom role? I
573
00:38:20,740 --> 00:38:25,520
don't even know what that is. You're
talking about heartbreak and dating
574
00:38:26,390 --> 00:38:28,090
insecurity and body image.
575
00:38:28,410 --> 00:38:31,890
I know how I feel about all those
things, and yet I don't know what I'm
576
00:38:31,890 --> 00:38:35,290
to say about any of them. I don't know
if I'm supposed to pretend I don't have
577
00:38:35,290 --> 00:38:37,970
those issues or if I'm supposed to say I
had all of them.
578
00:38:38,990 --> 00:38:42,090
We always joke that, you know, your poor
oldest kid is like the first pancake.
579
00:38:42,230 --> 00:38:44,430
You're like, oof, sorry, dude.
580
00:38:44,650 --> 00:38:46,170
I'm pretty sure we're messing this up.
581
00:38:46,810 --> 00:38:49,850
The third one, we should be good. The
third one, she's going to have nothing
582
00:38:49,850 --> 00:38:53,950
complain about. You guys, the RSVP
thing's closed.
583
00:38:54,510 --> 00:38:55,510
Mom!
584
00:38:55,850 --> 00:38:56,850
Okay. Yeah,
585
00:38:57,510 --> 00:38:58,590
apparently, but that's okay.
586
00:38:59,530 --> 00:39:00,630
Ready? Yeah.
587
00:39:02,330 --> 00:39:07,930
In a way, parenting overwhelms me much
more than my job does.
588
00:39:09,510 --> 00:39:14,270
And I think it's just because I feel
like the stakes are so much higher.
589
00:39:15,070 --> 00:39:18,290
Every choice you make as a parent.
590
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:23,260
has equal chances of being this great
memory and a success in your
591
00:39:23,260 --> 00:39:28,780
with them, or alternatively, this huge
disaster that they will talk about for
592
00:39:28,780 --> 00:39:31,760
the rest of their lives is the most
embarrassing thing that ever happened to
593
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:32,760
them.
594
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:51,400
Both have worked very hard at our
careers, and we are late mommies, and so
595
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:55,420
think both of us have a huge amount of
regard for how important our work and
596
00:39:55,420 --> 00:39:58,020
career is, and so we try to protect that
for one another.
597
00:39:58,540 --> 00:40:01,540
On Fridays, Paige is here with the kids.
We don't have the nanny.
598
00:40:02,020 --> 00:40:06,600
And, you know, I sort of have this,
like, oh, any spare moment I have, I
599
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,700
be running out to help, and, like, she
has zero expectation of that.
600
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:14,700
That's made it so much more doable to be
able to kind of balance the two things.
601
00:40:15,180 --> 00:40:19,140
Not that it's always easy or something,
but that makes a huge difference.
602
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,500
You know,
603
00:40:25,740 --> 00:40:30,200
it's really amazing. Like, those kids
right now, they're almost 17 months.
604
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:32,800
Maybe you can hear Jack crying in the
other room.
605
00:40:33,980 --> 00:40:36,120
That's a little heartbreaking because I
want to go run and help.
606
00:40:36,620 --> 00:40:41,280
It is a massive luxury to be able to see
my kids as much as I have.
607
00:40:41,740 --> 00:40:45,840
during this last year plus like i never
ever would have been able to see them as
608
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:49,680
much i would have been racing home from
work just to catch them going to bed
609
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:53,860
sometimes i get to catch them for dinner
i always get to put them to bed
610
00:40:53,860 --> 00:40:59,700
you know it's not like you can ever get
that time back
611
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:16,300
I think it took until screening six for
us to finally have an ending.
612
00:41:16,580 --> 00:41:21,760
And that, I think, was because it took a
long time for me to process my own
613
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:26,040
relationship with my mother and just
trying to figure out how to be a good
614
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:27,240
daughter for them.
615
00:41:28,180 --> 00:41:32,440
I also don't know what the solution is
in real life.
616
00:41:32,660 --> 00:41:36,860
Like, is it about being true to yourself
or is it about honoring your parents? I
617
00:41:36,860 --> 00:41:37,499
don't know.
618
00:41:37,500 --> 00:41:39,840
It's some messy mix of both.
619
00:41:40,270 --> 00:41:41,390
There's no clear answer.
620
00:41:45,290 --> 00:41:51,770
Before I was a mom, it just didn't occur
to me how hard it would be.
621
00:41:52,170 --> 00:41:55,890
I don't know how people do it, and I
don't even know how I'm doing it right
622
00:41:58,910 --> 00:42:05,710
My mom has been such a huge supporter of
what I want to do, and she just
623
00:42:05,710 --> 00:42:08,790
always believed that I know what's best.
624
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:13,680
That gave me so much freedom to be the
artist that I am today
625
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:18,320
Growing
626
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:24,520
up my parents separated and
627
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:30,260
striving for perfection came from this
feeling of like I just want to be good
628
00:42:30,260 --> 00:42:37,230
enough to keep my dad and my mom and
maybe if maybe if I was a perfect
629
00:42:37,230 --> 00:42:39,030
little girl. My parents would be
together.
630
00:42:40,730 --> 00:42:41,730
Yeah.
631
00:42:42,470 --> 00:42:49,190
And it worked out in the best possible
way for me. I feel like
632
00:42:49,190 --> 00:42:56,190
it made me ambitious ever since I had a
baby. My worth, who
633
00:42:56,190 --> 00:42:59,050
I am, is no longer so much tied to
others.
634
00:42:59,550 --> 00:43:04,950
I just feel like I am a whole being and
I'm solid.
635
00:43:09,420 --> 00:43:14,740
I think anyone being able to tell kids
as they're growing up and going through
636
00:43:14,740 --> 00:43:20,120
this sort of chaos of emotion or feeling
out of control or do my parents love me
637
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:24,540
or can I be who I want to be and they'll
still love me or who am I and what do
638
00:43:24,540 --> 00:43:25,680
the other kids want me to be?
639
00:43:27,100 --> 00:43:31,960
We need art in general and especially
things that go on a screen that kids can
640
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:33,480
see to tell them that it is okay.
641
00:43:33,780 --> 00:43:36,560
And I think it's also for parents it's
okay to see.
642
00:43:37,050 --> 00:43:40,910
All of that craziness and that it's a
natural part of life that you've got to
643
00:43:40,910 --> 00:43:42,510
wade through to form who you really are.
644
00:43:43,410 --> 00:43:50,390
And then she realizes, I'm
645
00:43:50,390 --> 00:43:55,650
my own person. I want to embrace this
thing that every other member of my
646
00:43:55,650 --> 00:43:56,990
has tried to lock away.
647
00:43:59,570 --> 00:44:04,360
When she becomes this red panda, It at
first glance represents everything she
648
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:08,040
doesn't want to be. Her being different
and standing out and feeling like she
649
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:12,280
can't control herself or the situation
the way she used to be able to.
650
00:44:12,700 --> 00:44:17,220
You can't go through life and become the
amazing person you're supposed to
651
00:44:17,220 --> 00:44:20,620
become if things don't conspire to rock
that sense of stability.
652
00:44:21,020 --> 00:44:26,340
When you say to embrace the red panda, I
think that represents being okay with
653
00:44:26,340 --> 00:44:27,340
that part of yourself.
654
00:44:27,870 --> 00:44:31,970
It's okay not to be in control all the
time. It's okay to be messy. It's okay
655
00:44:31,970 --> 00:44:33,890
be loud. It's okay to be noticed.
656
00:44:35,490 --> 00:44:41,510
If you don't accept it, it's a curse.
And then if you embrace it, then it's a
657
00:44:41,510 --> 00:44:42,710
gift that keeps on giving.
658
00:44:42,930 --> 00:44:46,750
I mean, for May, once she embraced it,
her whole life opened up to her.
659
00:44:48,230 --> 00:44:52,310
The last year plus with the pandemic has
been unlike anything.
660
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:56,340
any of us have experienced. It's been
incredibly difficult. It's been very
661
00:44:56,340 --> 00:45:01,640
stressful. And for me, this is the
funniest movie I've ever worked on. And
662
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:07,780
even at just that level, people get to
have some laughs, I think that would be
663
00:45:07,780 --> 00:45:12,360
amazing. But it also has this much
deeper thing of really being able to
664
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:13,770
out and say, It's okay.
665
00:45:14,030 --> 00:45:17,670
Like, if you're confused and feeling
crazy and you don't know who you are and
666
00:45:17,670 --> 00:45:20,830
you might let your parents down or you
might let yourself down, that's sort of
667
00:45:20,830 --> 00:45:25,850
natural part of growing up. And if that
could be what we provide for, I think,
668
00:45:25,890 --> 00:45:29,050
even one kid out there, that would be
really amazing.
669
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:45,740
Darren made a teeth yesterday.
670
00:45:46,240 --> 00:45:47,960
Look, your teeth are on camera.
671
00:45:48,420 --> 00:45:50,820
I love how you guys designed it.
672
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:53,200
In there?
673
00:45:53,380 --> 00:45:54,380
Yeah.
674
00:45:55,340 --> 00:46:01,580
When these dogs come in here and start
snoring so loudly, like to the point of
675
00:46:01,580 --> 00:46:02,580
like...
676
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:16,160
to be a lawfully wedded spouse?
677
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:17,440
I do.
678
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:18,880
Congratulations, United.
679
00:46:19,740 --> 00:46:24,760
Good boy.
680
00:46:25,020 --> 00:46:25,819
You got it?
681
00:46:25,820 --> 00:46:26,820
Good job.
59866
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