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You question a woman's character, you question a woman's ability, she'll snap

your neck.

You open up your heart, show a woman you're vulnerable, then they start

with their heart.

That's when they open up that back door.

That's what's happened this time.

And it's just one of the reasons Chris is sitting here tonight as winner of

Survivor Vanuatu, your ability to read people. We have everybody here. It is

reunion show. We are live in Hollywood. And Chris, looking back on this, rough

start for you on that balance beam.

Then the Women's Alliance.

You get down to this last guy.

Was there a key moment anywhere in that game that changed things for you and

changed your track?

Yeah, absolutely.

After the merge and the women began.

Voting off started out with Rory and their pecking order went straight down

me. I think the turning point for me was after Chad got voted off and I was put

in a situation back at camp where, you know, I had to watch what I said. And

basically, there was a time during the game when Julie had asked me a question

before a challenge. And her question was, since she jumped back over the

with the women, was, do you hate me?

And I said, no.

No, I don't hate you. You know, I'm really disappointed.

And that was the way I left it.

You played the disappointment card. Yeah, I pulled out a sympathy card. And

Julie was absolutely, you know, the person that campaigned for me with Amy.

little did I know how...

strongly Anne's word in their alliance was until we just watched it. But one of

the points in that is you did a good job of figuring out what people wanted to

hear or what they needed to hear. Had you said to Julie, yeah, I'm mad, she'd

have probably said, well, tough.

And you played this big brother, I'm just really disappointed.

Yeah, well, Julie had caught a wrath from Chad.

Chad was extremely upset with Julie when they had voted off Rory.

And, you know, Sarge...

Sarge had a little bit of trouble containing himself. So you saw an

go a different way. I saw an opening to keep my mouth shut because there's six

women and we had no control of the game.

Julie, he pays you back by putting his arm around you, stroking your hair, and

then cutting your throat.

Yeah, and I actually, and I, and I whined and dined him before he gave,

he did cut my throat. And then who'd you vote for? I voted for Chris because he

played me so hard.

I wasn't going to vote out of spite.

So you were able to separate personal feelings at that moment and still look

say, he did play me. Yes. And you said somewhere in there you gave somebody an

opportunity. You picked somebody to trust.

Right. Which you ultimately have to do. Right.

Yeah. It was the person who got you.

Exactly. Eliza, basically the same story.

He comes to you and says, never broken my alliance. He does the same thing. A

little pat on the back, rub the shoulders, pull out the knife. Boom,

gone. Yep.

Who'd you vote for? I voted for Chris.

Now, was your vote for Chris or against Twyla?

A little bit of both, but...

It was a lot against Twyla, I have to say. I mean, I was pretty upset with

I felt like she had treated me with no respect throughout the game.

And she had been really awful to me.

You know, throughout watching this, I have grown to love Twyla.

And, you know, I don't harbor animosity. But at the time, I was furious with

her.

And Chris, did that factor into your decision of who to take? Were you

and saying, here's who I think I'll do better against? Oh, absolutely.

Every day that went by.

You know, God bless Twyla. She's Twyla. And, you know, you define Twyla and just

watch the game and you'll define Twyla. Just absolutely.

Twyla's outspoken. And Twyla wasn't shy about telling somebody what she thought,

especially with Eliza and with six women.

You know, absolutely.

What you're saying, Truth, is I most of the time said the truth, but you lied

like a dog and you won. Is that what you're saying?

At this point.

Leanne, you also.

I mean, there was no way a guy would get into the final four, much less the

final two.

He had to have played. Kudos to him. And secondly, I promised Twyla I'd never

write her name down.

So again, a bit of a vote against Twyla. Your vote sounds like it was as much

against Twyla as it was for Chris. As much as I want to separate feelings and

game, I found it very difficult, and yeah, my feelings were hurt.

On the flip side, Amy, in spite of everything you said, you voted for

couldn't help it. She played me, and I didn't think I could be played, to be

honest. She got me. She got me, and she got me right in the face.

To me, she deserved it. She got me straight on. Did anything of your vote

her have to do with the Women's Alliance and just voting for a woman? No, it

definitely didn't because Chris played an awesome game. But it came down to

Twyla got me. Chris had a little bit to do in it, but of course he would.

She flat out outplayed me. So I didn't have anything against Chris at all. I

thought he played a great game.

I didn't read the last vote. The last vote was for Chris. You got two votes.

was Amy and one was Scout.

Same question. Was it the Women's Alliance that kept you in there voting

Twyla? I had a real strong alliance with Twyla. I kept it all the way to the

end. And when the final vote came down, I couldn't give a million dollars for

that much.

Sarge, you voted for Chris.

Question is, was it I'm voting for a man all the way or was it based on?

Chris, or was it against Twyla? Because that's what I sensed. No, it was never a

man -woman thing. I do not look at anybody man -woman wherever he's equal.

What I looked at it is I will never surround myself with a person that has

values. I live my life on a straight line, values, honor, discipline.

And if someone does not live on that wavelength, then I will not surround

and I reward that. And you're talking specifically about Twyla lying? Yes.

So here's my question.

Okay, let me back up.

It's not about the end. The end had nothing to do with her son, James, great

boy, and everything. It had nothing to do with that. It had to do with at the

point in the game when she turned on me, okay?

And that's where my vote came from. So nothing to do with the lie?

No. Because that's what you said at final tribal council. You made this big

speech, and my question to you was, for a guy who lives with this moral code,

You based your whole comment on hearsay, something that happened after you were

out of the game.

Partly it did. At Tribal Council, that was anger speaking.

That was anger speaking.

Now, after I thought about it, it came from that, but it came from who, I guess

who lied more, because they both lied their T's off.

But it was never men and women.

Chad, your vote for Chris. Why?

I looked at the big picture. I had nothing against Wyla, personally.

But I looked at how well this guy played the game. And every season I've seen,

I've seen every play. I think this guy's played the best of any of them. He put

his challenges in the whole picture. Women's alliance.

You start out, we have men versus women. And a group of women get together and

they say, let's do something that's never been done. Let's all stick

And you do a good job. We get 7 -3 at the merge. By the time you get to the

jury, you have five women. And you have a woman on the final two. And still a

guy wins. A guy who lied to every woman here.

Why is it so hard?

Why is it so hard to keep a woman's alliance together?

I really just think it's hard for women to really support each other and believe

in each other. It's been a long time of women not really standing for each

other, being their best, and we lost it. We really did. We started wondering

what was going on behind closed doors and who was talking about who, and

where we lost it. We didn't focus on, let's just get four women to the final

four. Liam, why do you think women have such a hard time?

Well... You know, it wasn't that we wanted to take all the women and have

at the end and get rid of all the guys first. But the goal was, at least my

goal, was to go to the final four with all women.

And it was working for a while. And it got screwed up when they voted me on.

Julie, is there a difference in how Chris played this game in that Chris, it

seemed like, made people feel as though he did have personal relationships with

them. When he actually didn't, but everybody else did.

And I'm just figuring this out.

I mean, I thought, I don't even know if you have feelings sometimes. I have

feelings. I have feelings.

And I have feelings.

I have feelings.

We'll let you off on that.

All right. Well, not since Johnny Fairplay has somebody lied on a family

member's name. We all remember that. This season.

It was Twyla. She paid for it, maybe a million dollars. Has anybody forgiven

her? We will find out. The Survivor, Vanuatu Reunion Show continues right

this.

I came to this game with one goal, and that goal was to win a million dollars.

to better my life and my son's.

On my son, I swear, and you all know how much I love that boy.

I swore to Amy and Leanne on my son's name that I was with them 100%.

But maybe for one million dollars, you got it for me?

I don't know. I hope.

So your comment was, but maybe if I win, you know, God will forgive me. You

didn't win.

Regrets now on that? You talked about it at Final Tribal.

I never.

Thank you.

I never.

When I said that, I seen the game coming down as Amy and Leanne would have been

one and two.

Julie and I would have been third or fourth.

You don't have to justify the reasons. It was a strategic move. You played that

card. Well, at the time, it wasn't a strategic. It was the honest truth at

time because I didn't see the game changing.

So when the game, when there was an opening, when they decided to take Eliza

before Chris, then that gave an opening. By that time, it was too late. I

couldn't take it back.

When we decided to take Eliza, it was too late. I couldn't take it back.

Amy, why such a big reaction?

that lie in a game in which lying is part of it and Chris lied so much so

more times and I just have to say that I didn't expect anything from

Chris we didn't really have an alliance we didn't have anything I expected a lot

from Twyla and wearing on a family member is big to me I've lost the family

member I know how much it's worth though That was a tough one for me to handle.

Did you not hear Chris swear on his family's name? He didn't swear on them

me. Yeah, it doesn't matter. She was playing the game. For her, it was the

perfect thing to do. The perfect thing to do. For me, different.

Scout, what's your take on the lie?

The reaction to the lie. Well, the reaction to the lie, the game brings out

lying in you. But the thing that really puked me out was all the self

-righteousness that came out.

Everybody is so self -righteous, and they're so loving and so harmonious, and

why don't they just forgive her?

God did. I do.

Forgive her.

I obviously did forgive her. I've forgiven Twyla. I realize that was her

have totally forgiven Twyla. It still doesn't mean that it meant any less to

I totally forgave Twyla.

Let's go to James is here in the audience, Twyla's son.

So we'll go to the final word on this.

James, stand up.

So you had to live with this. Your mom uses your name.

What's your take on it?

She was playing a game. I mean, I love her to death still, whether she won or

lost. I mean, I love her, and she was doing the best she could.

She's always done her whole life trying to help me out as much as I can, as she

can, and better herself.

That's it. I mean, she's playing a game. I'm not mad about it.

Thank you.

I have to say that, and this is a bit of an editorial comment, but that happens

all the time on this show.

Twyla probably came into this show, out of anybody who's been on it, with more

need in terms of truly needing it, knowing that she works seven days every

single week and doesn't make a lot of money.

Keeper needs money.

But what I'm wondering about is you don't see that when you're in the game.

when you look back on the show and you watch it play out, did anybody have a

change of opinion? Julie, do you have a change of opinion now on Twyla? Oh, God.

I wanted to get Twyla out, I mean, three or four times. I watched it. She's so

endearing. She's real. She was honest.

I was completely disillusioned by Chris.

Completely. Twyla came straight every time. And I can't believe I didn't see

I love Twyla. I think she's a great player.

Eliza. Eliza, you guys had differences based on a lot of things probably

of that lie. Just from you, I'm just curious about watching Twyla because she

was so unique in that, as someone said, Twyla can't not be Twyla.

Did you look at that and say, okay, I'm starting to understand this woman a

little more?

A little bit.

Amy,

you were saying, and I kind of interrupted you, that you did have a

heart. Is that based on seeing what...

you don't see on the show? Because a lot of interviews are done on this show are

in private. That's the whole point. You don't know what people are saying about

you. And then when you watch it, you get an idea of who their true self is.

No, I think I had a pretty good idea of their truth, of her true self,

especially.

I just let emotions get in the way in certain points. But I still think Twyla

the same person that I started the game with.

How about you, Leanne? Any change of heart? You were upset with her at the

obviously. Definitely.

I guess, you know, I don't feel like Twyla's a bad person.

I just felt a little hurt.

I mean, I felt a little hurt. And that wasn't necessarily why I voted for

I voted for Chris because he played really well.

You know, I had a hard time getting over it. Just because when you spend time

with someone and you're consoling them when they're crying or you're making a

sign for her son for his birthday, you get caught up. You think it's a real

friendship. So, yeah, when they betray you and lie to you, you feel a little

hurt. I mean, I couldn't help it. But now, you know, I'm ready to get over it.

I'm willing. Absolutely.

Sarge.

Obviously, Twyla was very upset and hurt because she respected you so much.

And she asked for your forgiveness. And so far, it doesn't seem like there's any

chance that's happening. No.

I did have a change of heart at the end of the game, okay? And I've already told

Twyla I forgive her that what's going on between her and James, they'll deal

with it on their own. I forgive her because I'm not a judge. I mean, who am

judge anybody?

I wasn't talking to you anyway, but I'm talking to Twyla. This is bad. But,

I mean, she...

I mean, she's a good person. And from day one, from day one, when she came in

little peppy, we bonded, we talked. I knew how many hours she worked. So, I

mean, I respect her and I forgive her wholeheartedly. And she's a true friend

mine now.

Good. I like to see that.

Well, if you think the emotional toll on a survivor is tough, wait until you

hear the story of a survivor loved one. We are going to meet Chris's fiance and

find out from her why every Thursday night was followed by a Friday morning

therapy session.

We'll be right back.

This season of Survivor, the loved ones were required to participate in an

immunity challenge. And at this point in the game, Chris thought he was going to

be voted out if he and his fiancee lost.

And they did. This is what happened.

Survivors ready?

Go! Come on, Lori!

Walk faster!

Stop! Lori!

No! No!

Lori! No! No!

I don't think this goes down here.

When's immunity?

I'm sorry, I didn't win.

I'm sorry. You're not going to go home, are you?

I'm going home tonight, babe.

You are?

Yeah. Yeah.

All right, this is Chris with Beyonce and Lori.

Here's the deal. The survivors aren't supposed to talk to anybody at all about

anything, including loved ones. So you leave Vanuatu.

You think we've lost the challenge. Chris told you in no uncertain terms,

going home.

You go home and think just that, right?

And when he comes home, what does he tell you?

That he got voted out that night.

Oh, he did?

Yes. So he let you believe that happened?

Yes.

So he's... He did.

So first of all, Chris just got outed for telling you something, but it was a

lie. So he's going to say it's okay because that's his character. We already

know that.

Very upset, though. I remember when you left the challenge. This was not, aw,

shucks. You were devastated.

Very much.

I knew he was the last guy standing.

I just knew with all those women that women stick together.

And so every Thursday night, you're watching this. And when it gets time for

this challenge, what I thought was interesting in talking with Chris is

trying to say, you know, seven's pretty good. Seventh out's not bad.

He doesn't tell you anything. You didn't know he was final two until tonight.

Oh, absolutely not. I didn't know.

I didn't know.

So I literally thought on Thanksgiving night that we were taking the red eye to

New York. So you could do your interviews. Exactly.

For the early show Friday morning. Chris can lie to anyone.

He's so good.

Julie, obviously the emotional toll on somebody like Lori is tough because they

don't even know what they're getting into. And then they find out they're in

immunity challenge. What about for you guys physically and emotionally? Is

any way to actually prepare for this show?

watch survivor you know the the outline of survivor i would outlast outplay but

yet for me there's no parallel world i went in and human nature took over i

started caring for these people and you have faith that you want to believe in

them i did i mean i don't know if i'm the only one but i mean and it it was

and it's that you can't explain the emotional component of this from sitting

watching it on tv after you were out there 36 days yeah learn anything about

yourself that you really took home Completely.

And about other people, you can't really tell where people draw their line of

trust or believe.

You only know where yours are, and that's what I gained from this

Is knowing where yours is? Knowing where mine is.

Amy, how about you? Take anything away from this game that's still with you.

Well, first I have to say, Laurie's tears.

saved his butt because all of us ladies were like oh god poor lori she's gonna

think it's all her fault it's so sad well you know why she thought it was her

fault because chris says it's your fault i'm

sorry i lost subtext meaning i'm sorry you lost yeah you were pretty uh brutal

about it but at the same time she she won that for him because he stayed in

longer and it was One of the reasons was our heart. I see what you're saying.

She feels so bad.

We felt so bad that she felt so horrible. At least I did. That she felt

that she thought she lost it for him. What about yourself?

The biggest thing I learned about myself was the quicker you forgive, the better

you feel. Because I had so much anger and hate towards Twyla for a while.

And the second I just let that go, just completely let it go and realized it's a

game, this and that.

The whole world was lifted off my shoulders the second I learned how to

Roy, how about for you? Very colorful in this game.

You had some highs and you had some lows. I had a lot of highs and lows.

Anything you took away from this that you're different now as a result of this

experience? Well, I really need to be true to myself.

And no matter how hard you try to put on a facade or try to play the game, your

true color is going to come out in this game.

I realize that I need to...

maybe hold my tongue just as Swyla does.

We need to learn that same lesson a little bit more.

But when that's part of your personality and you're independent, that's what's

going to come shining through.

I just want to thank God for bringing all of us home safely, especially in

of everything that we've got going on.

Leanne, you were in this thing, then you had the rug pulled out from under you,

and you've made a couple of comments tonight that lead me to believe you've

thought a lot about, what happened out there and your part in it.

Oh, and so many different dimensions. I mean, strategy, the game, what could I

have done different, that thing. But yet, the whole experience itself was, it

happened in a time in my life that was transitional, and I came out feeling

empowered, like I can do anything.

It was really, I mean, I'll never forget it. It was fantastic.

Sarge, you are one of a kind, my friend.

What's your experience? I don't know if you would take anything from this game,

but if you look back on it, what did you take out of it?

I took out of the game a new outlook on civilians, okay?

Because, I mean, 18 and a half years I've been living a life

where you do what you're told, when you're told, you know, and there's no

question. And someone, I learned that someone can say no.

And I learned that there's people out there that have no clue about

their future. They live day to day.

Their occupation is reality games. Rory's pointing at John Kay.

John Kay, he came into the game flat broke. He didn't pull no punches. He

I'm flat broke.

He said, I'm an aspiring model.

I learned that there's people out there that are different, and I have to be

more diversified about my view of people.

In two years, I'll be a civilian, so I've got to learn a lot.

All right.

Well, up next, this guy is so good, the rest of his tribe mates didn't know he

had a prosthetic leg until he told them.

That's next, but first, here's a little pig wrestling.

I had a pretty good run down here. I didn't fall or anything.

Chad, coming into this game, when we met you in casting, we talked about the

leg, and we said, you know, we want you on the show, but you're obviously going

to have a big problem. You're going to have to convince people that this is not

a liability.

You set out to do that, and it seemed like it almost worked too well. Yeah. I

wanted to prove, not prove myself, but demonstrate what I was capable of. But

one point, it just became a non -issue, and then I kind of wanted to backtrack

and say, hey, look, I'm kind of impressed.

Well, you know, it's pretty true. You're probably as physically agile as 90 % of

anybody that we've had on the show.

Was there a reason connected to your leg that you wanted to be on this and you

had a rare form of cancer? That's how you lost the leg. It was briefly talked

about in the show of your sarcoma Was there a connection or did you want to do

did you want to do the show separately of that?

I want to do this survivor for years. My wife wouldn't hear of it at one point

when we had the kids, right?

Okay, but um, but yeah, but I knew that once after I had surgery I knew first of

all would be something to get me notice Secondly, I said, this is going to be a

great platform to show people what people with disabilities are capable of.

was just happy to be able to do it.

Speaking of disability, Scout, I've never seen any, no one's ever made

it to the final three hobbling along like you did.

And it turns out, you go back home, it turns out you have a...

The wrong size kneecap in?

No, I have the wrong size knee. My artificial knee did not fit me. So I had

have a brand new one put in two months ago.

And, you know, I played this game 20 to 40 years older than everybody, dragging

my leg around.

And it was an interesting thing because what I learned to do was prop myself up.

I used to work with handicapped people and just to keep myself coming and be in

good spirit.

What was the reaction when you went home? You've been with your partner for

-some years, but you weren't officially out as a gay couple.

You're in rural Oklahoma.

Were they accepting of you? Because now it's out. It's on Survivor. Everybody's

watching. You know, people have been fabulous.

I mean, case in point, we were at the gym the other day, and this big muscle

builder came up.

And he just came up with tears in his eyes and said, you're just so beautiful.

It was wonderful to see your reunion.

And so what? People just have been fabulous. Thank you so much.

Brooke, I give you the moniker as the most frustrated first voted out

ever because you were such a huge fan of Survivor. Yeah, I know.

For me, you know, I came into this game, I won the full 39 days.

The fat five over here stole 36 of those days from me. But I'll tell you

something. No one will ever take the three days I got.

Unbelievable. A dream come true.

And I'll be at home waiting for the phone to ring. My man Bernie put me back

the game, Bernie.

Please. Please, Bernie, put me back in the game.

Darling.

We've lost weight and we happen to be the ladies' favorite.

We're sweet, delicious, and fat.

You have kept the weight off. You're very thin.

I've kept the weight off and stuff, and I've got more energy to play with my

boys and stuff, so it's a win -win situation.

I don't think you could say anybody up here is a loser because what we took

with us is appreciation of family and friends, and that's what it's about.

Dolly, what's going on with the sheep?

I've got 38 little baby lambs at home that will go to the market on Monday.

you, John P. I want to get some updates, see what everybody's doing. What's

going on with you?

Life's been great. Just got back from Atlanta, Georgia. Did a surviving

and national ad campaign with Home Depot and doing some traveling, doing some

traveling, working with kids in elementary and high schools on some

leadership speaking. So it's been great.

It's been great. Nia, how about you? What's up?

Life is great. It's back to normal. I'm back in Boston bartending.

We got to see the Red Sox win finally, so it's nice coming home to that.

Brandy, congratulations. You came home and got married.

I did. Actually, I came home and then went to Australia to get married.

Oh, good. Nice.

Lisa,

what's going on with you?

Sick kids? Family happy to have you back?

Oh, yeah. They love it.

I'm just home, you know, being a mom to six kids and thanking God every day for

Survivor. I had the best time of my life.

You didn't want to come home, did you? No, I didn't.

No, I'll do it again. Again, tomorrow, take me.

John K., you were doing some modeling before. Are you doing it now?

Yeah, same as always. I'm just going to go back to school next fall, so it'll be

great. That's what I'm anticipating.

I can't wait.

It's been a while. Rory, one question. Your wife sent a letter from home about

six hours before you were going to burn down the camp and talked you out of one

of the best Survivor moments to never happen.

My one regret in the whole game is that I didn't burn down that damn camp.

All right. Well, tomorrow morning on the CBS Early Show, Chris is going to get a

check for a million dollars.

He's also going to get the keys to a new car, the first ever Pontiac G6.

Nice ride. Waiting for him outside.

We're going to take a break, and then we're going to show you where Survivor

heading next. We'll be right back.

Well, Survivor Vanuatu finishes up soon. A new season of Survivor will begin.

Here's a sneak peek of where we are going next.

It started in Borneo. And over the past nine seasons, Survivor has visited some

of the most exotic lands on Earth.

Places like Australia, Kenya, Thailand, the Amazon, and Vanuatu.

But now, a group of new castaways will travel to the most stunning location

the islands and waters of Palau, a place that some have called the eighth

natural wonder of the world.

A tropical setting of stunning islands, dense jungles, and an underwater

world beyond belief.

It was in this part of the world that war raged in the 1940s.

Today, the remains and wreckage of war haunt these waters and jungles like

ghosts of a violent past.

An eerie mix of man's explosive history and nature's power to reclaim.

It is here that 20 new castaways will be abandoned.

From the beginning, the game will be changed in a dramatic way. Everything

survivors have come to expect will be wiped out in the first 10 minutes.

Who will outwit, outplay, and outlast all the others to become the sole

survivor?

The adventure begins with the premiere of Survivor, Palau.

If you want to own a piece of Survivor Vanuatu, you can. All kinds of props,

memorabilia are going to be up for bid beginning tonight at Survivor -Auction

.com. We've got the urn with all the votes, the immunity necklace, the

castaways, torches, which they would love to have.

All authentic stuff, and it benefits our good friends at Elizabeth Glazer

Pediatric AIDS Foundation. To date, we've raised over a million dollars.

Plus, if you want to be on Survivor, number one, don't call if you're going

quit. But if you think you have what it takes, go to CBS .com. All the

information is there.

Finally, thanks for watching. We have a very loyal audience every single week,

and we do this show for you guys. Next season of Survivor will be right here on

CBS. And, Allie, your hair will grow back. Get well. Good night, everybody.