Original subtitles

When I come up with ideas, they'll just start from a very, like, primal, I just

want to see this cute thing on screen. And then I'll find the meaning and the

metaphor and the themes to justify why it should be that. But really, it just

came from, like, a place of, like, ah, they're so cute. And wouldn't it be

awesome if they were gigantic?

I'm excited.

And then the girl is, like, the older one, right?

I didn't realize they'd be so small.

Real red pandas are really cute, and I think that's the main reason why I was

drawn to making a story about them.

They've got kind of a belly sometimes.

They're very tubular, and they have very long, fluffy tails, more pointed

snouts. The tail's about 18 inches.

Oh.

They feel a little cat -like, kind of raccoon, kind of bear, maybe a little

splash of monkey or something.

Look at it.

They're totally solitary.

They don't really communicate with one another. They're kind of like, you know,

teenagers. I found a lot of, like, parallels between red pandas and May

and her story. Like, red pandas are very attached to their moms.

They sleep all day.

They eat bamboo, but they're not supposed to eat bamboo. Like, bamboo

give them enough nutrients.

so i kind of imagine it's just like a lazy teenager just eating chips and

sleeping all day they're native to china then also it's like red and white like

chinese but also like the colors of the canadian flag too so it felt like the

perfect animal to tell this story about this chinese canadian teenage girl

I'm Mei Lin Lee, and ever since I turned 13, I've been doing my own thing,

making my own moves. 24 -7, 365.

Turning Red is about Mei, a Chinese -Canadian girl living in Toronto in

2002. It's very specific.

It's a mother -daughter story.

At its most base level, this film is about growing up and figuring out who

are and embracing that.

Mei Lin!

Everything changes for May when she wakes up one morning and discovers she's

giant eight -foot -tall furry red panda. And she realizes, oh, like, I can

control this transformation.

If I just stay completely calm and even for the rest of my life, I will stay

human and it'll be A -OK.

But that's not how life works.

So the red panda is basically a metaphor for magical puberty.

Just seeing how this girl who thought she had everything under control

big and hairy and smelly, an emotional wreck.

This panda is incredibly cute.

It's also true to that time in a girl's life. In some ways, it's the worst time.

You're not a kid and you're not an adult.

This poor girl, she's looking in a mirror and seeing that she's got hair

everywhere and she stinks and she's big and doesn't fit through the doorway.

Panda Mae is only half in control. She's having a great time, but then she's

like, ah!

And like, I don't know, that feels very much like what my teenage years were

like.

It's bodily, it's emotional, it's all about, can I embrace this? Can I grow

it? Can I still love who I am, knowing that I've become someone that I'm not

used to?

It's the first time in my career where all the key

leadership on the show are women.

And I feel like that sets a very different vibe.

It's completely amazing to have this all -women leadership team. I have spent

the entirety of my career in meetings where I was one of very few women.

Now sitting there and making plans and it's all women in the room has been this

really crazy thing and very different for me.

Everything's different about this film. I mean, I don't know how to answer that

question without starting with Domi.

She's a good girl, just like I was.

I first heard of Domi through seeing one of her 10 -second animation clips.

I was in college and it was something that she posted on her blog.

It was this dancing, twerking hamster to a K -pop song.

Who is this girl? She's probably going to be a really funny director one day.

When I first started this movie, I was really determined to make something

different. We're going to be spending four or five years of our life on this.

We've got to go big.

we cheat the director of red and ever since we started making this movie we've

been breaking convention and making people laugh 24 7 365 legally

it's 9 to 5 261 on this show we wear what we want

say what we want And we will not hesitate to do spontaneous cartwheels if

feel so moved.

Domi is a force of nature. She's a first -time feature director.

It's been a while since I've worked with a first -time director before, and I'm

loving it.

In conclusion, welcome to Ritz!

Did that actually change anything? Yes, it did.

So, welcome, everyone.

Just ignore the camera.

Everyone. It's not there.

Don't look right here.

Making the film, it's just been like a long marathon, but in the first couple

years, it was mostly me and Julia, our screenwriter, and the head of story,

Rosie Sullivan, the story team, and then Nick, our editor, and we were just

working on the reels. Yeah, it feels like you're part of a pirate ship.

Because you're all kind of just working and sweating for, like, these drawings,

and you're all aiming to make the director react or respond.

I started working with her, and pretty quickly, I felt like this woman is

impressive, also incredibly clear in her vision. And then, ta -da, and, like,

imagine it to look like a comic book background.

Thank you, Margaret.

Great work. So fun.

She is so unique in how she thinks about movies, how she communicates her

vision, her humor, her tone.

Can I give this up for any of you to see if it glues within our world?

Yes. What you're looking for?

Yes. Sorry.

I feel like I have to be more of a director now with the camera.

The crew slowly grew bigger and bigger.

To give you a general sense of the...

And then like last year, it

just exploded.

And that was during the pandemic.

It just so happens that like the busiest time on the show was when we were all

working from home.

It may not be obvious, I don't know, but making films is a huge kind of team

effort. And so the more you can collaborate with the people around you.

the better the movie's going to be.

As we were kind of leaving to walk out the door for getting sent home, Domi

said, well, maybe I could do like a coffee time or something just so we can

in touch with the crew.

And we all went, oh, what a great idea. And in the beginning, it really was kind

of this awesome thing of just being able to see more than like three people in

your life.

And also getting to hear from the director weekly is pretty cool.

struggle throughout act two even if sometimes it's just like a little update

felt like some kind of connection we are starting with a couple nominations from

our dailies team i've been really surprised because we routinely get a

and something people coming to it oh thank

you exceptionally bad and so of key but i really love it

here's to a better 2021 we're coming together in some of the best way you can

during pandemic with a giant movie crew so it's been pretty cool

my

job is visual effects supervisor on the film first woman in 20 years at pixar to

have that job For almost 15 years, I was a lighting DP, and so most of my career

at Pixar has been about lighting, thinking about how to make the most

movie possible, how to make a great experience for the lighting team. Maybe

little bit of this down here, even though that would catch the light. How

engage with the director, how to coordinate with other departments, how

groundbreaking stuff.

And then now I'm in this new role overseeing heavily tech and some of the

creative, and I'm now in the leadership group of running the movie.

And then at the same time, I became a mother for the first time.

I have twins, a boy and a girl.

I don't know that I ever thought I was going to have kids.

You know, there's days where it feels completely overwhelming, I would say.

But I also am now a year and a half into being a mother.

And I'm two years into this position.

I love both things dearly, and it's hard to imagine not having them now.

And I got married to my amazing wife.

Paige is the

battalion chief for the Alameda County Fire Department.

She is the highest -ranking woman of that department, which...

I am never -endingly proud about.

She would not love that I'm bragging about her, but I love to brag about her.

It's one of my favorite topics.

Are you going to be able to jump into the end credit? We're moving it up to 2

.30, I think. This is Lindsay Collins.

She is the producer of Turning Red.

The producer is the one orchestrating this giant circus.

She's the ringmaster.

When people are going, Lizzie's like, okay, let's make a plan. Let's figure

how to make this happen.

So in the race to get this done, we're probably just going to be working on top

of each other, which is great.

Lindsay's so smart. I think she's always like a million steps ahead so that I

can worry about like what's happening in the present.

Like I'm really good at working within boxes and limitations.

And she was really good about like drawing them out for me to be like crazy

push up against.

Just to draw the storyline together maybe a little bit clearer.

I feel like I learned so much by watching her and working with her.

I see it as the partner to the director. So that includes being a creative

partner, but also managing the crew and surrounding her with all the right

people. In every meeting, you always offer ways to move story along, and

you help production through not just...

By managing it, but also just from like an emotional, creative side as well. You

do. I kind of like it when... This is Rona Lu. She's the production designer

Turning Red.

The production designer is the first person brought on the show after the

producer and director.

You know, we're talking about the values being like super, super crunched. And

that's basically because from the very beginning, their job is to kind of

out what the movie is going to look like. And that is everything from

to sets to color to tone and style. My role is to collaborate closely with the

director and make sure that her vision translates.

throughout all of the department and onto the screen.

Cool, so welcome everyone.

Today we're gonna kick it off with Athena and the panda costume shaping.

For her tail, the lighter part can take on some of that red. I know I'm

providing information that other people need to get their work done.

Tell them the two sides where there's the star and the heart.

I feel like that's the most important part of my job is to just make sure that

everybody else feels good about the work that they're doing.

Thank you. Okay.

Good job, everyone. Thank you.

Thank you. Bye. Thanks.

Being pregnant while we're in the crunch of things definitely made me have to

just trust my team a lot more. It's the first time in my life where... I was

comfortable telling my manager, Sophia, I need to take some time to nap.

Hey, Rona, where are we?

We're in the living room area. This is the entrance to our house.

And this is our kitty.

This is my soon -to -be husband. We're getting a Zoom married on Friday.

We've been engaged for so long, we figured now's a good time to do it.

Being able to step away, touch base with a loved one, and to say, hey, how's

your day going?

And just being really connected in both of our lives for the first time, that's

been really comforting.

I'm an only child, and my dad had to go away to work a lot, so a lot of the time

it was just me and my mom.

We'd go on.

Chinese bus tours.

Like, he'd pick the location, and she would take us to, like, Atlanta or

Halifax, Prince Edward Island. Maybe not, like, up front, like, the most

exciting places, but we would spend, like, a ton of time just together on the

bus talking.

It was good at first, but, you know, like, everybody, like, you grow up and

change and you want to have your own friends and your own life, and it's kind

just about...

how that transition happens.

I love the lighting.

I love everything in this sequence.

Great work, you guys.

It's been a long time since I was 13, but I just remember it being, like, a

of highs and lows.

It's such a turbulent time in a person's life, especially a girl's, I think.

Small things can feel super, super important, and you could love something

day and hate it the other.

I didn't even like Sport Town last year, but now they're literally the greatest

thing that's ever happened to me!

This film is very personal to me in that it was...

Very much inspired by my own life growing up in Toronto and being the only

of my overprotective mom and dad.

We're about to hop onto a Zoom call with my parents, and they're going to dig

through all of the artwork and things that I've ever created in my life.

collected all of it. Everything.

Everything. Where's my parents?

Hi! Hi, little mojo!

How's it going? Is it weird having a whole camera crew in the house?

Yes. Yes, people, yes, they are around us.

They live in Toronto, Canada, still in the same house that I grew up in. It

pretty much looks exactly the same every time I go back.

You write a letter, remember, to Santa Claus asking for it.

Yeah, and then you replied as Santa Claus.

Why would Santa Claus ever say that?

She wrote a table of contents,

a foreword. Can you read some of your forewords?

This is a collection of Domi's writing during her grade four to six.

Domi loved writing and drawing when she was young.

So my dad would be like my art tutor, but my mom would encourage my writing.

So that piece is making me so impressed.

This one is your name.

Oh, the Wi -Fi sucks.

No, he's saying nice things about me and I can't hear it.

He's never this generous with his priest. Come on. Oh, God.

It's so big.

In the living room, there's like an ever -growing shrine dedicated to me.

It looks like they really love me and that I'm dead or something.

And this one is you get six years old and we get the Canadian citizenship.

Oh yeah, I remember the judge.

I heard you guys collected all of my sketchbooks.

Let's look through them together.

Pokemon. Oh yeah, Pokemon.

That's middle school.

And then high school is when I started drawing a lot of like beautiful people.

If there's boys, then it's close to high school.

Oh my God.

Oh, this is so embarrassing.

There was like this fan art contest that I entered where it's like, draw Draco's

children.

Okay, maybe we can look at another sketchbook.

Mmm, heaven.

May I remind you what real men look like?

There's just so much comedy in female adolescence.

that I don't see a lot of. I can't wait to show people just how weird girls can

be.

Because I was totally that as a teen and a young adult and like now.

I love how Mae is just a confident dork.

And she's unapologetic about it.

I feel like she was the girl that I wanted to be.

There's so many elements of me in Mae.

Spunky.

loud doesn't care what anyone thinks i accept and embrace all labels even

i was a total nerd i was so oblivious to that and i think that helped me she

herself never questions who she is and i think she fights what is expected of

her but deep down she always knew who she was and she was always so accepting

herself i remember being that at some point and then you know hitting that age

and then suddenly turning very very shy when i got acne and then you know and i

was very aware of my body and all that stuff and that's what i wanted to

with you know may turning into a red panda she's this girl that has her life

together and then all of a sudden magical puberty hits it's going to be

out excuse me are you serious for

may i really wanted her to sound Oh my gosh, that's like the best thing ever. I

wanted her to feel like a real girl.

Oh my gosh, that was the best thing ever.

And so we found Rosalie Chang.

It's like you feel bad about turning her down because she's your mom.

Wow. She just had this really great voice. It was just like a charming

imperfection to it.

Schedule, hurry.

For me, it was important to design her in the way that we saw ourselves.

Her face is round.

Her ankles are thick.

We definitely embraced her chunky cute. It's kind of our design aesthetic for

our characters and for our sets.

We were like looking at each other's faces. We're like, hey, we got moles.

should have moles.

And then you're like, hey, Rona, you have that dip in your lip. Let's put

in. Hey, Rona, you have really patchy eyebrows.

When that part of myself gets celebrated and the director's like, hey, I like

that, let's put it in our main character, you're like, hey, why did I

for so long?

Genius! Genius!

It's happening!

What are you doing?

For me, this story is so much my day -to -day life.

I have to admit that I am much more the mom than I am the main character because

I actually have three kids who are teens.

I am surrounded by teenagers and hormones and puberty at work, and then I

home and I am equally, if not more, surrounded by puberty and hormones at

Are you guys going to walk the dog?

Or will you take him together?

Or are you going to take him separate?

Hi.

Thank you.

We're being very well behaved.

It's not normally good.

The number one rule in my family, honor your parents.

They're the supreme beings who gave you life. The least you can do in return is

every single thing they ask.

I think both of us probably grew up under a lot of pressure to, you know,

our parents proud.

I had that pressure on myself.

Like, I was very high strung.

I was really into good grades.

I was into the image of the perfect girl.

I never asked for anything.

My whole life I've been her perfect little May -May. Temple duties, grades,

violin, top dancing.

Yeah, we've been so good. If they don't trust us anyway, then what's the point?

May's struggle in this film is she's torn between being her mom's good little

daughter and embracing her like wild.

inner beast.

That is a universal struggle that a lot of kids go through, especially, I think,

immigrant kids. There's definitely more of this obligation to carry on your

family's legacy and make sure that their sacrifices in coming to a new country

aren't in vain, but also you're in a new country, you're experiencing all of

this crazy, awesome stuff that maybe your parents didn't get to grow up with.

They're caught between two worlds, and that's kind of what I wanted to explore

in May, and also, like, literally caught between being, like, a human girl and a

panda.

I immigrated to the U .S. when I was 10, and my mom is very much in

her Eastern roots.

And when I came here, you know, I was...

The good little Chinese girl that I knew how to be. And then as I get more and

more exposed to the Western culture and what it means to be an American

teenager, my mom and I started to butt heads. I had to discover how to

bridge the gap between being a beautiful daughter, faithful to

myself, and a good friend.

In eighth grade, I met my best friend.

Aya Alladel, she really taught me that girls can burp

the alphabet.

Girls can want to play video games.

If you trip and you fall on your face, you can learn to laugh at yourself.

You don't have to be embarrassed for your decisions, for your mistakes, for

you are.

She really opened my eyes to all of that.

This is Bao.

This is... Your first baby.

Our first baby.

Our first baby.

Rona designed this cute little nose for him.

Used our own noses. You look like your mother.

I had this short film that I was developing that became Bao, and Rona was

the first people that I roped into the story.

I was like, dang, she can really paint, and she has really good taste, and she

seems really cool.

I really need an art person to take this to the next level.

To be honest, I will follow you to the ends of the earth. I think Domi is just

brilliant, brilliant mind.

I just feel like we click and we can be so open in communicating with each

other. We're different enough in certain areas of our tastes that we can

collaborate and create something even better together than if we worked on

something separately.

Hey, Lisa. In the movie, Mei and her family own and take care of a family

temple. We took several trips to different historic temples around

that were built by early Chinese settlers just to get a feeling of what

grassroots temples are like.

I also spent time living behind a temple with my grandma in China, and I just

remember it being just a really lovely...

I'd make candles, and we would sell them to visitors of the temples, and I

learned how to pray properly with my grandma.

When we got to, like, building the set of the temple and dressing it, it was

really cool, like, seeing those details that we saw at the temples kind of pop

up in the background.

Like, there's just a bottle of vegetable oil, like, cleaning supplies tucked

away in the corner.

They've been around since, like, the Gold Rush era. A lot of these immigrants

who came with, like, so little were able to cobble together a little piece of

home.

That kind of felt like the immigrant spirit. That kind of felt like me and

and how, like, we, in our art, we are inspired by Eastern and Western stuff.

Should we try to match their faces? I remember you saying, Rona, like, this is

not a Chinese film. This is a coming -of -age film.

But it just happens.

to be about a Chinese girl.

We need to really tap into the mind of a 13 year old growing up in 2002, growing

up in Toronto.

What did we like when we were 13?

And we liked Sailor Moon.

We liked anime.

The fandoms are what got me really into anime.

I was drawing fan art passionately. I had a secret sketchbook.

You join an online community.

you draw fan art and then other people would comment on it and that would

encourage you to draw more produce more and that's kind of just what encouraged

me to keep drawing i think as a kid it was like such an escape i know i'm asian

but i'm in a very white

It kind of was nice to be connected to that Asian side of myself.

I didn't have a boyfriend, so then it's nice to read about boyfriends.

Yeah, and a lot of them are drawn and written by women, too. Right. There was

lot of stories told from, like, a girl's point of view. And they're, like, the

heroes. Yep. They, like, save the day or they change the hearts of all the boys

and make them fall for her.

This is my house.

This is my boyfriend, Darren.

My many game consoles.

I've been using these to de -stress over quarantine.

This is this awesome Miyazaki art book I got about the

Ghibli Museum.

I got this rug over quarantine.

Diane really likes this rug.

Where's Diane?

Diane? Don't be scared.

Don't be scared.

Don't be scared. Come on.

She'll come out. She's shy.

I think I'm...

craving even more speed as she poofs into a panda and shoots forward.

We're paying homage to Anna Mae throughout the entire movie.

You can see it in the expressions and the acting, the starry eyes in Mae when

she sees a boy that she really, really loves.

Uh, Mae?

Why are you staring at Carter Murphy Mayhew? We definitely have a lot of

expertise on the movie about being 13 -year -old girls, for sure.

There's definitely a...

uh lived experience there that we get to bring to the movie making maybe in a

different way than i would have been able to say on a movie like wally wow

scene with may going under the bed and all of a sudden she's sort of gripped by

things and she's drawing these sexy pictures and the conflict there and why

i draw those things i mean i wasn't under my bed drawing things but when i

11 i had a little wooden clothespin

And I had this mad crush on this woman that was older than me, but I did not

know that I was gay at the time.

And I remember drawing her name on the clothespin and then flipping it over,

she played a sport, so I put her number down.

And, like, that sat on my desk, and I would look at it sometimes. You know,

like, these things, these silly things you do, I definitely get what Mae's

doing.

Did you know that I was like, oh, my God, am I ready?

To be a production designer? Yeah, will I be good? We both did it on a short,

but, like, you're a first -time feature. I would be a first -time feature

production designer.

I figured because I was nervous about directing for the first time that you

would be nervous about production designing, but I naively thought, like,

much harder could it be directing a feature?

I was really scared honestly like at the beginning I mean you know Domi was

intimidating right I mean she's seriously you were like super talented

don't be a diva no I was never worried about that and it was good too because

you also made me kind of having done this for a while like you question

that I hadn't questioned in a while so I started in May of 97

at Pixar on A Bug's Life.

I'd worked in traditional animation, but at the time, CG animation was a

completely different ballgame.

I just remember I would have this notepad and I would just write down

I was like, is the render farm a zoo?

What's a cookie?

Can I have a cookie? They're like, no, you cannot. A cookie is not the cookie.

was kind of like, here we go.

Welcome to my questions.

Danielle was definitely somebody that I sought out and would not judge you and

give you a nice, clear and concise answer.

When we export Act 3, is there a way to do one that just has music?

One of the things I love most about Pixar is that I'm still asking questions

with the same amount of freedom and safety as I did on the first day I got

It's just kind of a philosophy that I've kept, and it's something I like to

encourage other people to do as they're starting on something. It's just, if you

don't know, you're probably not the only one in the room who doesn't know. So

ask. We basically started these this morning, so be gentle.

A little bit before I was asked to be the DP on WALL -E, I thought, oh, I

know if I could ever be a DP. Maybe like in 10 or 15 years.

Wow, that's great. This one we lit in five minutes.

And then Andrew Stanton asked me to be the DP on WALL -E.

And I was terrified because I didn't think I knew how to do that at all.

I mean, I think we both credit Andrew to a big degree, frankly.

We both had this encouragement neither one of us would have asked for until he

kind of said, no, I want you to come do this. It was an amazing experience. It

was also, you know, half the time terrifying of just trying to figure out

kind of hang on to who I was and make it through, even though a lot of times

that felt like I didn't know what I was doing.

But what we then decided to do is some look stuff that's sort of like, how do

get out of the Pixar look? How do we get into some new thing?

We were trying to push the boundaries of style in both storytelling, in the

camera, the look of things. Using some hand -drawn elements, but then you

sprinkle in Asian art influences.

It's been so interesting to take those pieces and figure out how you can apply

them to a 3D computer animated film.

For me, I really wanted to be a VFX supervisor that was making sure that

had the room to bring their very best, not telling people what to do, but

space for them to shine.

And I have to say, honestly, a lot of that has started with Rona because she

the most collaborative production designer I have ever worked with far and

And I think it's made a huge difference to the movie and to people's enjoyment

of making the movie.

And this is the trust and the confidence I gained.

This isn't just our first concert.

This is our first step into womanhood. And we have to do it together.

Mae's friends are Miriam, Abby, and Priya. And they're for dork squad.

They accept her no matter what, red panda or no panda.

I always saw that as the metaphor for when I found my squad.

I love that May has these key friendships.

I very much am that person myself.

I always was the kid who had like two or three best friends.

Those kind of quirky, dorky people who made you laugh.

Equally insecure about what was going on in high school. We'd get invited to the

party and we'd be like, oh, okay, cool.

And then we'd drive over to the party, and we'd sit outside for a minute, and

then we were like, let's go get a cake.

And then we'd eat a cake, like a whole cake, in the car, and then go home.

It was about friends that listened to that moment when you were like, I'm not

comfortable going in, or I'm not confident enough to do this, and all I

want to do is go hang out with you guys.

Hi, sorry I'm late.

Figuring out how to be comfortable in the room and finding my voice took a

while. When I first started, I was definitely more nervous.

I was one of the few women in the story department.

What helped a lot for me was a female story artist support group called the

Story Artistas, led by Mary Coleman and Nicole Grindle. They were like, yeah, I

want you guys to get comfortable stating out loud what your goals are.

And I think that was, like, one lunch where, like, I, like, meekly said out

loud, like, I want to be a director.

Oh. Oh, yeah, I'm really feeling that anger.

She's, like, launching herself up. Sorry, I'm not.

You could play Ming a little bit more in slow -mo as well.

Yeah, otherwise it's looking good. Anyone else have thoughts?

Notes? Mimi, there you are. Hey, Mom. You're ten minutes late. What happened?

Are you hurt? Are you hungry? Um, Ming is, like, like a force to be reckoned

with.

She's just a sweet, innocent child. How dare you take advantage of her? When

Sandra Oh became the voice of Ming, it just felt like her character is starting

to flesh out. I knew you were trouble.

Sandra's so funny, but she also has so much range. She added that missing piece

to the puzzle of Ming.

I have a double -jointed elbow. Look, I can make a perfect circle.

That was great.

I think in terms of design, you want her to have the really powerful shoulders

with these, like, thin eyebrows, kind of like Chinese ladies from, like, the 60s

with the qipao.

Like I wanted traditional Chinese mixed with, like, working girl.

We definitely couldn't have written Ming without, like, input from Lindsay and,

like, other moms on the show.

I came at it purely from the point of view of, like, the oppressed teenage

daughter.

So it was really helpful, like, hearing the other side.

You don't know everything. Like, you're making it up as you go along.

What I love about Ming is that she's not kind of one -sided cookie -cutter

character, and certainly not as a mom. And as a mom myself, I can appreciate

those moments.

Thanks, Lonnie.

Mm -hmm.

So will you remind me before we sit down to dinner to RSVP for your fall

festival? Yeah.

You're having conversations that you are like, is this even the right

conversation to be having? Am I supposed to be playing more of a mom role? I

don't even know what that is. You're talking about heartbreak and dating

insecurity and body image.

I know how I feel about all those things, and yet I don't know what I'm

to say about any of them. I don't know if I'm supposed to pretend I don't have

those issues or if I'm supposed to say I had all of them.

We always joke that, you know, your poor oldest kid is like the first pancake.

You're like, oof, sorry, dude.

I'm pretty sure we're messing this up.

The third one, we should be good. The third one, she's going to have nothing

complain about. You guys, the RSVP thing's closed.

Mom!

Okay. Yeah,

apparently, but that's okay.

Ready? Yeah.

In a way, parenting overwhelms me much more than my job does.

And I think it's just because I feel like the stakes are so much higher.

Every choice you make as a parent.

has equal chances of being this great memory and a success in your

with them, or alternatively, this huge disaster that they will talk about for

the rest of their lives is the most embarrassing thing that ever happened to

them.

Both have worked very hard at our careers, and we are late mommies, and so

think both of us have a huge amount of regard for how important our work and

career is, and so we try to protect that for one another.

On Fridays, Paige is here with the kids. We don't have the nanny.

And, you know, I sort of have this, like, oh, any spare moment I have, I

be running out to help, and, like, she has zero expectation of that.

That's made it so much more doable to be able to kind of balance the two things.

Not that it's always easy or something, but that makes a huge difference.

You know,

it's really amazing. Like, those kids right now, they're almost 17 months.

Maybe you can hear Jack crying in the other room.

That's a little heartbreaking because I want to go run and help.

It is a massive luxury to be able to see my kids as much as I have.

during this last year plus like i never ever would have been able to see them as

much i would have been racing home from work just to catch them going to bed

sometimes i get to catch them for dinner i always get to put them to bed

you know it's not like you can ever get that time back

I think it took until screening six for us to finally have an ending.

And that, I think, was because it took a long time for me to process my own

relationship with my mother and just trying to figure out how to be a good

daughter for them.

I also don't know what the solution is in real life.

Like, is it about being true to yourself or is it about honoring your parents? I

don't know.

It's some messy mix of both.

There's no clear answer.

Before I was a mom, it just didn't occur to me how hard it would be.

I don't know how people do it, and I don't even know how I'm doing it right

My mom has been such a huge supporter of what I want to do, and she just

always believed that I know what's best.

That gave me so much freedom to be the artist that I am today

Growing

up my parents separated and

striving for perfection came from this feeling of like I just want to be good

enough to keep my dad and my mom and maybe if maybe if I was a perfect

little girl. My parents would be together.

Yeah.

And it worked out in the best possible way for me. I feel like

it made me ambitious ever since I had a baby. My worth, who

I am, is no longer so much tied to others.

I just feel like I am a whole being and I'm solid.

I think anyone being able to tell kids as they're growing up and going through

this sort of chaos of emotion or feeling out of control or do my parents love me

or can I be who I want to be and they'll still love me or who am I and what do

the other kids want me to be?

We need art in general and especially things that go on a screen that kids can

see to tell them that it is okay.

And I think it's also for parents it's okay to see.

All of that craziness and that it's a natural part of life that you've got to

wade through to form who you really are.

And then she realizes, I'm

my own person. I want to embrace this thing that every other member of my

has tried to lock away.

When she becomes this red panda, It at first glance represents everything she

doesn't want to be. Her being different and standing out and feeling like she

can't control herself or the situation the way she used to be able to.

You can't go through life and become the amazing person you're supposed to

become if things don't conspire to rock that sense of stability.

When you say to embrace the red panda, I think that represents being okay with

that part of yourself.

It's okay not to be in control all the time. It's okay to be messy. It's okay

be loud. It's okay to be noticed.

If you don't accept it, it's a curse. And then if you embrace it, then it's a

gift that keeps on giving.

I mean, for May, once she embraced it, her whole life opened up to her.

The last year plus with the pandemic has been unlike anything.

any of us have experienced. It's been incredibly difficult. It's been very

stressful. And for me, this is the funniest movie I've ever worked on. And

even at just that level, people get to have some laughs, I think that would be

amazing. But it also has this much deeper thing of really being able to

out and say, It's okay.

Like, if you're confused and feeling crazy and you don't know who you are and

you might let your parents down or you might let yourself down, that's sort of

natural part of growing up. And if that could be what we provide for, I think,

even one kid out there, that would be really amazing.

Darren made a teeth yesterday.

Look, your teeth are on camera.

I love how you guys designed it.

In there?

Yeah.

When these dogs come in here and start snoring so loudly, like to the point of

like...

to be a lawfully wedded spouse?

I do.

Congratulations, United.

Good boy.

You got it?

Good job.