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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:09,855 --> 00:00:11,896 - Beverly Hills is home to some of the most wealthy 2 00:00:11,896 --> 00:00:13,521 and powerful people in the world. 3 00:00:13,521 --> 00:00:15,104 They drive the finest cars, 4 00:00:15,104 --> 00:00:16,855 shop at the best boutiques, 5 00:00:16,855 --> 00:00:19,062 and they live in the most outrageous homes. 6 00:00:19,062 --> 00:00:21,896 They also have access to the most exclusive 7 00:00:21,896 --> 00:00:25,187 and high end erotic club, ever. 8 00:00:26,104 --> 00:00:29,688 I created that club, it's called Snctm. 9 00:00:29,688 --> 00:00:32,896 (upbeat electronic music) 10 00:00:32,896 --> 00:00:35,354 Snctm is a secretive society 11 00:00:35,354 --> 00:00:36,438 where we do a black tie masquerade, 12 00:00:36,438 --> 00:00:39,896 private dinner parties, and an erotic theater. 13 00:00:39,896 --> 00:00:40,980 It's a place for my members 14 00:00:40,980 --> 00:00:42,730 to explore their wildest fantasies, 15 00:00:42,730 --> 00:00:45,563 and learn about their true sexual selves. 16 00:00:45,563 --> 00:00:47,146 Welcome to my world. 17 00:00:49,730 --> 00:00:52,938 (upbeat electronic music) 18 00:01:12,062 --> 00:01:15,229 - [Woman] I have some like, gnarly marks 19 00:01:15,229 --> 00:01:17,855 from being spanked and stuff. 20 00:01:17,855 --> 00:01:19,312 - What am I gonna do with you, Jacque? 21 00:01:19,312 --> 00:01:22,604 What's like the craziest kind of BDSM experience 22 00:01:22,604 --> 00:01:23,771 that you've had? 23 00:01:23,771 --> 00:01:25,771 Do you like to be choked? 24 00:01:25,771 --> 00:01:26,646 - Oh yeah. 25 00:01:26,646 --> 00:01:28,146 - [Man] Have you ever been choked out? 26 00:01:28,146 --> 00:01:28,354 - Um, almost. 27 00:01:30,730 --> 00:01:33,104 - And was that something you kind of enjoyed, 28 00:01:33,104 --> 00:01:34,438 or were you like, what the fuck are you doing? 29 00:01:34,438 --> 00:01:35,354 - No I loved it. 30 00:01:35,354 --> 00:01:36,354 It was an ex of mine. 31 00:01:36,354 --> 00:01:37,438 - [Man] You do, you loved it. 32 00:01:37,438 --> 00:01:38,771 - It was a lot of fun. 33 00:01:38,771 --> 00:01:41,104 - You liked it. 34 00:01:41,104 --> 00:01:44,438 - I feel like sexuality is kind of a taboo thing, 35 00:01:44,438 --> 00:01:47,229 and alternative interests, sexually, especially, 36 00:01:47,229 --> 00:01:50,312 and I feel like Snctm allows people 37 00:01:50,312 --> 00:01:53,146 to start that conversation a little bit more. 38 00:01:53,146 --> 00:01:55,646 - What's the most extreme kind of fetish experience 39 00:01:55,646 --> 00:01:56,771 you've personally had? 40 00:01:56,771 --> 00:02:00,062 - To be honest I never really had an extreme fetish. 41 00:02:00,062 --> 00:02:00,771 - Come on. 42 00:02:00,771 --> 00:02:01,187 - I never did. 43 00:02:01,187 --> 00:02:02,438 - Come on. 44 00:02:02,438 --> 00:02:04,438 - That's crazy, really. 45 00:02:04,438 --> 00:02:07,146 - [Jacque] That's such bullshit. 46 00:02:08,104 --> 00:02:09,730 - [Man] Okay, what's the craziest? 47 00:02:09,730 --> 00:02:12,396 - Yeah, I mean I like to watch all kinds of fetishes, 48 00:02:12,396 --> 00:02:13,312 I have like this fetish for fetish, 49 00:02:13,312 --> 00:02:15,187 so I like to watch and create things. 50 00:02:15,187 --> 00:02:17,146 I watch some porn, sometimes, 51 00:02:17,146 --> 00:02:19,438 and like, I get like ideas from there, 52 00:02:19,438 --> 00:02:21,146 which are put into the shows. 53 00:02:21,146 --> 00:02:23,187 I also like to talk to some of the guests sometimes, 54 00:02:23,187 --> 00:02:25,730 and like see like what's their fetishes, 55 00:02:25,730 --> 00:02:28,396 what they like, would like to have, 56 00:02:28,396 --> 00:02:29,813 what they would like to see, 57 00:02:29,813 --> 00:02:32,813 so I kind of like trying to create this vision, 58 00:02:32,813 --> 00:02:34,396 this fantasy world for them. 59 00:02:34,396 --> 00:02:35,312 I like to see different fetishes, 60 00:02:35,312 --> 00:02:38,438 and then, you know base those stories 61 00:02:38,438 --> 00:02:40,229 around those fetishes. 62 00:02:40,229 --> 00:02:42,980 But never anything crazy that I like really did. 63 00:02:42,980 --> 00:02:44,062 - Tied up, spanked? 64 00:02:44,062 --> 00:02:45,646 - I'm not into that at all. 65 00:02:45,646 --> 00:02:46,479 - None of it at all. 66 00:02:46,479 --> 00:02:47,146 - No. 67 00:02:47,146 --> 00:02:48,479 - You look nervous. 68 00:02:48,479 --> 00:02:50,271 - [Alina] What are you thinking about? 69 00:02:50,271 --> 00:02:53,021 - No I'm not nervous, but I think I'm pretty, 70 00:02:53,021 --> 00:02:54,521 vanilla when it comes to fetish. 71 00:02:54,521 --> 00:02:57,688 - I don't think so, I know what you're into. 72 00:02:57,688 --> 00:03:01,062 - I don't know what he's talking about. 73 00:03:02,855 --> 00:03:07,021 - I mean you like to eat ass and pussy and-- 74 00:03:07,021 --> 00:03:08,021 - Oh, Nick. 75 00:03:08,021 --> 00:03:09,062 - And like anal, and all that. 76 00:03:09,062 --> 00:03:11,271 - That's not a fetish like-- 77 00:03:11,271 --> 00:03:14,646 - But that is fairly advanced. 78 00:03:14,646 --> 00:03:17,563 I mean you've got a fairly advanced palate, 79 00:03:17,563 --> 00:03:19,312 you know, you do. 80 00:03:19,312 --> 00:03:20,563 I would not call you vanilla. 81 00:03:20,563 --> 00:03:24,938 - With Snctm I've learned that it's good to have desires, 82 00:03:24,938 --> 00:03:27,062 and it's okay to be uncertain whether your partner 83 00:03:27,062 --> 00:03:28,855 will want those desires or not, 84 00:03:28,855 --> 00:03:30,187 and if she doesn't, or he doesn't, 85 00:03:30,187 --> 00:03:33,563 then it's fine, you've said it. 86 00:03:33,563 --> 00:03:35,521 And it goes for anything from different positions, 87 00:03:35,521 --> 00:03:39,021 to bringing other people in your relationship. 88 00:03:39,021 --> 00:03:42,563 There's a wide range of desires and fetishes 89 00:03:42,563 --> 00:03:45,062 and kinks that everybody has. 90 00:03:45,062 --> 00:03:48,229 - So this is very interesting, because I'm the same. 91 00:03:48,229 --> 00:03:50,062 I would consider myself pretty vanilla, myself. 92 00:03:50,062 --> 00:03:51,813 Like I am, I love sex, 93 00:03:52,896 --> 00:03:54,438 and I love sexuality, 94 00:03:54,438 --> 00:03:57,146 and like I can tie someone up and I enjoy it, 95 00:03:57,146 --> 00:03:58,688 but like, I don't need it. 96 00:03:58,688 --> 00:04:02,980 Snctm has begun a conversation about the exploration 97 00:04:04,104 --> 00:04:06,438 of our fantasies and our desires, 98 00:04:06,438 --> 00:04:10,396 and sexuality is still incredibly repressed, 99 00:04:10,396 --> 00:04:13,604 and I think Sanctum represents the opposite of repression. 100 00:04:13,604 --> 00:04:17,896 And this is weird, because as the people who run this thing, 101 00:04:17,896 --> 00:04:19,396 we're all pretty-- 102 00:04:19,396 --> 00:04:20,229 - Prude. 103 00:04:33,604 --> 00:04:36,771 - I have an incredible life, and it's beautiful, 104 00:04:36,771 --> 00:04:38,855 and I'm grateful as fuck. 105 00:04:41,312 --> 00:04:42,855 My philosophy on dating right now lierally, 106 00:04:42,855 --> 00:04:44,062 is just to be real, 107 00:04:44,062 --> 00:04:46,229 and just be open and be honest, and that's what I'm doing. 108 00:04:46,229 --> 00:04:49,730 And I'm finding that I'm with some really beautiful, 109 00:04:49,730 --> 00:04:51,813 intelligent, wonderful people 110 00:04:51,813 --> 00:04:53,312 who seem to really care for me, and I care for them, 111 00:04:53,312 --> 00:04:56,771 and I can feel connections happen, 112 00:04:56,771 --> 00:04:57,688 people get close to me, 113 00:04:57,688 --> 00:05:01,187 but I'm not committing myself to anybody. 114 00:05:01,187 --> 00:05:03,146 There's a part of me that feels uncomfortable 115 00:05:03,146 --> 00:05:04,354 or bad about it, because I know 116 00:05:04,354 --> 00:05:07,688 that I'm not really giving anyone my heart. 117 00:05:10,354 --> 00:05:11,479 But there's really not a day that goes by, 118 00:05:11,479 --> 00:05:15,229 that I don't wish that I was falling asleep 119 00:05:15,229 --> 00:05:18,187 with Melissa, and waking up with my kids upstairs. 120 00:05:18,187 --> 00:05:21,563 I found my person 20 years ago, 121 00:05:21,563 --> 00:05:22,646 but we both changed so much. 122 00:05:22,646 --> 00:05:25,354 We love each other deeply and we always will, 123 00:05:25,354 --> 00:05:29,271 and we talk about that thing of getting back together, 124 00:05:29,271 --> 00:05:32,187 but I don't know if it's possible. 125 00:05:37,104 --> 00:05:40,521 (upbeat electronic music) 126 00:05:42,146 --> 00:05:44,021 - We're both very different. 127 00:05:44,021 --> 00:05:45,855 We have like this, 128 00:05:45,855 --> 00:05:49,229 we connect in a different dimension, 129 00:05:49,229 --> 00:05:50,896 is what I was saying. 130 00:05:51,980 --> 00:05:53,229 I can talk with you about things 131 00:05:53,229 --> 00:05:55,021 that I can't talk with other people about. 132 00:05:55,021 --> 00:05:56,438 - Like what? 133 00:05:56,438 --> 00:05:59,187 Like what, our crazy stuff at night? 134 00:05:59,187 --> 00:06:01,229 Yeah, I know what you mean. 135 00:06:01,229 --> 00:06:03,938 - My boyfriend is Eyal, 136 00:06:03,938 --> 00:06:05,688 he is from Israel. 137 00:06:05,688 --> 00:06:06,938 We've been together for almost five years. 138 00:06:06,938 --> 00:06:09,688 Bread looks good. 139 00:06:09,688 --> 00:06:11,021 - I know you like it. 140 00:06:11,021 --> 00:06:12,479 - We know, always when we go to restaurants, 141 00:06:12,479 --> 00:06:14,271 if the bread is good-- 142 00:06:14,271 --> 00:06:16,146 - So everything else is good. 143 00:06:16,146 --> 00:06:17,896 I met Alina through a friend. 144 00:06:17,896 --> 00:06:20,646 Her ex-business partner, she was a friend of mine before, 145 00:06:20,646 --> 00:06:22,396 and Alina used to have a boyfriend 146 00:06:22,396 --> 00:06:25,021 and I was just waiting for her and him to separate. 147 00:06:25,021 --> 00:06:26,563 Waiting on the side, waiting, waiting, waiting, 148 00:06:26,563 --> 00:06:29,396 until the day came, and then we dated. 149 00:06:29,396 --> 00:06:30,146 - I was following the shoes, remember? 150 00:06:30,146 --> 00:06:32,396 Like the ballet shoes? 151 00:06:32,396 --> 00:06:34,688 And they supposed to be black, they turned out blue, 152 00:06:34,688 --> 00:06:36,438 so I have to like fix it, like now. 153 00:06:36,438 --> 00:06:39,187 - I saw the painting at the apartment. 154 00:06:39,187 --> 00:06:40,229 That's okay. 155 00:06:40,229 --> 00:06:42,062 - I don't even know like what to do for that. 156 00:06:42,062 --> 00:06:44,896 - Stop being so stressed on this, come on. 157 00:06:44,896 --> 00:06:46,896 - It's what it is, it's stressful. 158 00:06:46,896 --> 00:06:49,396 - Yeah, but it always works very good, everyone's happy. 159 00:06:49,396 --> 00:06:50,229 - I know. 160 00:06:50,229 --> 00:06:50,980 - I know that a lot of people 161 00:06:50,980 --> 00:06:52,855 think of her as like very cold. 162 00:06:52,855 --> 00:06:54,312 She seems very unintimidated, 163 00:06:54,312 --> 00:06:55,688 at the beginning, she's very stiff, 164 00:06:55,688 --> 00:06:57,896 but I mean I see her differently. 165 00:06:57,896 --> 00:07:00,354 When she's home she's like a marshmallow. 166 00:07:00,354 --> 00:07:01,271 What is gonna be in the party? 167 00:07:01,271 --> 00:07:02,229 Jonathan's working? 168 00:07:02,229 --> 00:07:03,438 - Jonathan is working, 169 00:07:03,438 --> 00:07:08,271 Arya, Jacque, Holly, the usual. 170 00:07:08,271 --> 00:07:10,396 Tonight is the big Allegma Creatives, 171 00:07:10,396 --> 00:07:12,062 our big main party, 172 00:07:12,062 --> 00:07:14,271 so yeah, there's a lot of like stress. 173 00:07:14,271 --> 00:07:16,021 - What else are you planning? 174 00:07:16,021 --> 00:07:17,938 - So it's gonna use the unicorn painting, the ballerina, 175 00:07:17,938 --> 00:07:21,604 and then later for the main show, I have a piano player. 176 00:07:21,604 --> 00:07:23,396 So he's gonna play piano, 177 00:07:23,396 --> 00:07:25,688 and then the ballerina comes in, and she does like a dance. 178 00:07:25,688 --> 00:07:27,771 I will try to do it on the piano. 179 00:07:27,771 --> 00:07:28,563 - Really? 180 00:07:28,563 --> 00:07:29,312 What is he a porn star or 181 00:07:29,312 --> 00:07:31,730 just some piano player? 182 00:07:31,730 --> 00:07:32,521 What? 183 00:07:32,521 --> 00:07:33,187 Who's gonna be the painter? 184 00:07:33,187 --> 00:07:34,479 Johnathan? 185 00:07:35,271 --> 00:07:37,187 - Yeah, I'm making him a unicorn, 186 00:07:37,187 --> 00:07:40,521 and then he's gonna paint like a picture. 187 00:07:42,229 --> 00:07:44,312 - I should make something like 188 00:07:44,312 --> 00:07:47,312 on his dick, like with a brush, 189 00:07:47,312 --> 00:07:49,479 like an extension or something. 190 00:07:49,479 --> 00:07:51,521 - The best part of the relationship with Alina is the trust. 191 00:07:51,521 --> 00:07:54,479 We trust each other, I trust her 100%. 192 00:07:54,479 --> 00:07:57,730 We're different, but we also a lot of similarity. 193 00:07:57,730 --> 00:08:00,479 She just understands me and I understand her. 194 00:08:00,479 --> 00:08:01,855 So where do you find all these people? 195 00:08:01,855 --> 00:08:03,271 - I know, right? 196 00:08:07,021 --> 00:08:08,980 - I want to go to the party, Johnathan. 197 00:08:08,980 --> 00:08:12,021 - We have another event out here in Los Angeles tonight, 198 00:08:12,021 --> 00:08:14,896 and it's always a great time, but there are times 199 00:08:14,896 --> 00:08:18,312 that I have these roles at Snctm that I'm not happy with, 200 00:08:18,312 --> 00:08:20,438 and playing those roles. 201 00:08:21,938 --> 00:08:23,563 You already know Alina. 202 00:08:23,563 --> 00:08:24,521 She wants me to do a few things I don't want to do, 203 00:08:24,521 --> 00:08:26,312 and she's you know, 204 00:08:27,229 --> 00:08:29,521 pushing for it, and I'm pushing back. 205 00:08:29,521 --> 00:08:31,604 - Are you comfortable telling me like what, 206 00:08:31,604 --> 00:08:33,646 what it is that she wants you to do? 207 00:08:33,646 --> 00:08:35,688 - I don't think your mind would be able to wrap around it. 208 00:08:35,688 --> 00:08:38,021 Being in a relationship with Tracy, 209 00:08:38,021 --> 00:08:40,896 while I do these Snctm events is, 210 00:08:41,354 --> 00:08:43,354 pretty hard. 211 00:08:43,354 --> 00:08:44,479 I try to keep them two separately, 212 00:08:44,479 --> 00:08:47,396 and I always have to kind of sugarcoat everything. 213 00:08:47,396 --> 00:08:50,354 - I mean it can't be worse than 214 00:08:50,354 --> 00:08:54,604 you being in the hot tub with the naked girls the other day. 215 00:08:56,229 --> 00:08:59,146 - Where are my floaties? 216 00:09:02,521 --> 00:09:05,730 She's actually had me do far worse things. 217 00:09:10,396 --> 00:09:11,730 - You know she asked me to come, right? 218 00:09:11,730 --> 00:09:13,062 - Really? 219 00:09:13,730 --> 00:09:16,563 - Why do you look so, uh, stressed out about that? 220 00:09:16,563 --> 00:09:17,771 - There's a reason why I don't invite you, 221 00:09:17,771 --> 00:09:20,146 because I know you too well. 222 00:09:20,146 --> 00:09:22,563 - I really didn't even know about this world, 223 00:09:22,563 --> 00:09:24,813 until him, I've never had a threesome. 224 00:09:24,813 --> 00:09:28,396 I've never done anything publicly, like I'm 225 00:09:31,396 --> 00:09:34,479 for all intents and purposes of a word, 226 00:09:34,479 --> 00:09:35,730 like a conservative. 227 00:09:35,730 --> 00:09:38,021 But I feel like I want to find these things out, 228 00:09:38,021 --> 00:09:39,312 you need to know, 229 00:09:39,312 --> 00:09:41,062 even if it's gonna hurt me, like I need to know. 230 00:09:41,062 --> 00:09:42,604 - There are certain things that 231 00:09:42,604 --> 00:09:44,271 are gonna happen that you might not like. 232 00:09:44,271 --> 00:09:46,604 I have roles to play, 233 00:09:46,604 --> 00:09:48,312 and I have things that I've got to take care of. 234 00:09:48,312 --> 00:09:50,354 So, you've been warned. 235 00:10:03,771 --> 00:10:05,604 Ok, what else do we have to do? 236 00:10:05,604 --> 00:10:08,187 - When we do a masquerade there's a lot to think about. 237 00:10:08,187 --> 00:10:10,354 Whether it's LA or New York, I've got work to do, 238 00:10:10,354 --> 00:10:12,730 and I'm trying to be set up the day before, already. 239 00:10:12,730 --> 00:10:16,688 That one has a lip gloss mark on it. 240 00:10:18,438 --> 00:10:21,146 I'm gonna text Sonja to make sure. 241 00:10:22,938 --> 00:10:25,479 I have everything that I need by the day before, 242 00:10:25,479 --> 00:10:27,312 so on the day of, 243 00:10:27,312 --> 00:10:28,312 I hit my checklist, 244 00:10:28,312 --> 00:10:31,312 and all the way leading up to 10 o'clock. 245 00:10:31,312 --> 00:10:32,104 Ice is here? 246 00:10:32,104 --> 00:10:32,980 - Yep. 247 00:10:32,980 --> 00:10:33,938 - It just got delivered? 248 00:10:33,938 --> 00:10:34,646 - He already delivered it. 249 00:10:34,646 --> 00:10:38,604 - You have a Sharpie for that? 250 00:10:38,604 --> 00:10:39,229 Okay that's good. 251 00:10:40,062 --> 00:10:44,396 - You think you'll be able to like, stand still for a while? 252 00:10:44,396 --> 00:10:45,896 - Yes. 253 00:10:45,896 --> 00:10:47,438 - The parties in L.A. they're just like so much better. 254 00:10:47,438 --> 00:10:49,771 The energy, the weather is like the furnace. 255 00:10:49,771 --> 00:10:51,396 It's a different feel. 256 00:10:51,396 --> 00:10:53,980 So it's very easy to find just more open-minded girls, 257 00:10:53,980 --> 00:10:55,271 that are just more like, 258 00:10:55,271 --> 00:10:56,229 you know a little bigger boobies, 259 00:10:56,229 --> 00:10:59,521 and they're much more like, cutesy girls, 260 00:10:59,521 --> 00:11:02,271 more easy going I guess. 261 00:11:02,271 --> 00:11:03,730 Like how LA is. 262 00:11:05,813 --> 00:11:06,688 - Bring my fucking pens. 263 00:11:06,688 --> 00:11:10,521 I'm gonna need like at least three. 264 00:11:10,521 --> 00:11:11,479 For myself. 265 00:11:12,938 --> 00:11:16,771 - No, actually we can't have people drinking. 266 00:11:16,771 --> 00:11:19,479 - I'm usually not (muffled). 267 00:11:19,479 --> 00:11:21,646 - I can leave, it's not a big deal. 268 00:11:21,646 --> 00:11:22,896 It's okay. 269 00:11:22,896 --> 00:11:24,730 - Worst thing that can happen, we had this situation before, 270 00:11:24,730 --> 00:11:28,146 where I had a lamp, she was part of the show, 271 00:11:28,146 --> 00:11:29,896 she's supposed to stand still, 272 00:11:29,896 --> 00:11:33,312 and then there was a performance happening around her. 273 00:11:33,312 --> 00:11:35,021 She had one too many drinks I guess, 274 00:11:35,021 --> 00:11:36,896 so she was like, wobbly, she couldn't even stand. 275 00:11:36,896 --> 00:11:40,813 - So first you stay lamp, for like, 276 00:11:40,813 --> 00:11:42,730 a little bit longer. 277 00:11:43,980 --> 00:11:45,730 It's not easy to be a lamp. 278 00:11:45,730 --> 00:11:50,021 So, this is was like really one of the bad situations, 279 00:11:50,021 --> 00:11:51,062 where the lamp was like, 280 00:11:51,062 --> 00:11:53,604 I was scared that she's gonna fall or something. 281 00:11:53,604 --> 00:11:56,771 Please, drink you water, no alcohol, okay? 282 00:11:56,771 --> 00:11:58,062 - You know about us through Donna. 283 00:11:58,062 --> 00:12:00,771 - No, I know about you through kind of everybody in LA. 284 00:12:00,771 --> 00:12:03,354 - Why have we not talked before this moment? 285 00:12:03,354 --> 00:12:04,271 - Probably because both of our lives are insane. 286 00:12:04,271 --> 00:12:06,062 - Okay. 287 00:12:06,062 --> 00:12:07,563 Neil Strauss is a writer, 288 00:12:07,563 --> 00:12:10,354 and has forums and conversations around sexuality, 289 00:12:10,354 --> 00:12:11,229 and what it is to be a man, 290 00:12:11,229 --> 00:12:14,980 and how to, sort of, navigate through 291 00:12:14,980 --> 00:12:17,646 the rules that have been set up around sexuality. 292 00:12:17,646 --> 00:12:20,730 This butt. -That butt. 293 00:12:20,730 --> 00:12:22,688 It's all about this butt right here. 294 00:12:22,688 --> 00:12:24,229 So he's knowledgeable, 295 00:12:24,229 --> 00:12:27,187 and we got to know each other a bit before the party. 296 00:12:27,187 --> 00:12:29,229 I don't know what's right or wrong, 297 00:12:29,229 --> 00:12:30,730 I just know that, 298 00:12:32,104 --> 00:12:36,479 the sex, the endless stream of sexuality, 299 00:12:36,479 --> 00:12:39,312 is like eating so much lobster, 300 00:12:39,312 --> 00:12:42,271 and burgers and mashed potatoes, and never getting full. 301 00:12:42,271 --> 00:12:43,730 - It's a black hole. 302 00:12:43,730 --> 00:12:47,021 - Yeah, it's clear to me now that that's not what I want. 303 00:12:47,021 --> 00:12:50,730 Now the other side of the coin is, is monogamy. 304 00:12:50,730 --> 00:12:51,604 - Right. 305 00:12:51,604 --> 00:12:54,896 - And, you know, that is also 306 00:12:54,896 --> 00:12:56,021 hard for me. 307 00:12:56,021 --> 00:12:57,396 - Right, 'cause you're gonna be there, 308 00:12:57,396 --> 00:12:59,146 and you're gonna wanna go taste the lobster. 309 00:12:59,146 --> 00:13:00,146 - Yeah, I mean, 310 00:13:00,146 --> 00:13:02,021 and no matter how in love I am, 311 00:13:02,021 --> 00:13:04,604 it's been challenging for me to be monogamous. 312 00:13:04,604 --> 00:13:05,938 Are we meant to be monogamous? 313 00:13:05,938 --> 00:13:09,646 Or is it a wound that needs to be healed, 314 00:13:09,646 --> 00:13:11,855 that causes us to cheat 315 00:13:11,855 --> 00:13:15,438 or to stray from our partner, et cetera? 316 00:13:15,438 --> 00:13:15,980 - We're not designed to be monogamous. 317 00:13:21,730 --> 00:13:23,104 That's the way that we're designed. 318 00:13:23,104 --> 00:13:25,771 - I know now, after two years of 319 00:13:27,688 --> 00:13:29,146 full exploration, 320 00:13:29,146 --> 00:13:30,938 I mean I've had every fantasy fulfilled, 321 00:13:30,938 --> 00:13:34,396 everything that I could ever dream of, 322 00:13:34,396 --> 00:13:37,104 with multiple partners, I mean just-- 323 00:13:37,104 --> 00:13:38,688 - That's what I did. 324 00:13:38,688 --> 00:13:39,688 - I know you did. 325 00:13:39,688 --> 00:13:40,604 - I went, I tried living with a girlfriend. 326 00:13:40,604 --> 00:13:42,980 - Did it fulfill you? 327 00:13:42,980 --> 00:13:43,938 - Absolutely not. 328 00:13:43,938 --> 00:13:45,604 - It didn't fulfill me either. 329 00:13:45,604 --> 00:13:50,229 So now I'm coming back to this place where, I want love. 330 00:13:50,229 --> 00:13:51,187 We need to have this discussion. 331 00:13:51,187 --> 00:13:53,688 We need to like, you know test the water, 332 00:13:53,688 --> 00:13:56,521 and be honest and be real. 333 00:13:56,521 --> 00:13:57,396 I mean that's part of the reason 334 00:13:57,396 --> 00:13:58,980 I started Snctm in the first place. 335 00:13:58,980 --> 00:14:00,896 There was no one to talk to, 336 00:14:00,896 --> 00:14:02,938 so I created like a little world around me, 337 00:14:02,938 --> 00:14:04,688 where I could talk about it, and explore it, 338 00:14:04,688 --> 00:14:06,855 and indulge in it with other people that I, 339 00:14:06,855 --> 00:14:09,229 must be asking the same questions as I was. 340 00:14:09,229 --> 00:14:10,896 - The question is, 341 00:14:10,896 --> 00:14:13,521 do you really want to like have love and intimacy, 342 00:14:13,521 --> 00:14:15,855 or do you walk around kind of saying you do, 343 00:14:15,855 --> 00:14:18,021 but making the same mistakes over and over again? 344 00:14:18,021 --> 00:14:19,229 - Right. 345 00:14:19,229 --> 00:14:21,730 I learned something from that conversation. 346 00:14:21,730 --> 00:14:24,104 All this stuff doesn't work. 347 00:14:27,813 --> 00:14:31,604 And I've known it for a while, 348 00:14:31,604 --> 00:14:35,604 but it hasn't stopped me from walking this path. 349 00:14:37,396 --> 00:14:40,146 I keep repeating this story, 350 00:14:40,146 --> 00:14:41,104 about wanting to be with my wife, 351 00:14:41,104 --> 00:14:43,438 and wanting to put my family back together. 352 00:14:43,438 --> 00:14:45,813 I've told that story so many times that I believe it, 353 00:14:45,813 --> 00:14:47,771 but I don't know if it's true. 354 00:14:47,771 --> 00:14:49,146 And I don't want to be walking around 355 00:14:49,146 --> 00:14:51,938 telling myself some story that's bullshit. 356 00:14:51,938 --> 00:14:54,896 I'm searching for something right now, 357 00:14:54,896 --> 00:14:55,855 and I'd be lying if I didn't say that 358 00:14:55,855 --> 00:14:57,896 there was a pain in my heart, 359 00:14:57,896 --> 00:14:59,187 and I'd be lying if I didn't say 360 00:14:59,187 --> 00:15:01,730 that I feel it every day of my life. 361 00:15:01,730 --> 00:15:05,896 But like, I don't know that I'm a monogamous creature. 362 00:15:05,896 --> 00:15:09,187 I don't know that I could just give up all of them for one. 363 00:15:20,688 --> 00:15:21,813 How are you tonight? 364 00:15:21,813 --> 00:15:22,771 - Good. 365 00:15:22,771 --> 00:15:23,479 - Welcome. 366 00:15:23,479 --> 00:15:24,604 - Thank you. 367 00:15:47,104 --> 00:15:47,980 - Hey, how are you doing? 368 00:15:47,980 --> 00:15:49,479 Good to see you, welcome. 369 00:15:49,479 --> 00:15:51,938 I'm doing great thank you. 370 00:15:51,938 --> 00:15:52,896 -Where you from? You just got here? 371 00:15:52,896 --> 00:15:55,771 - I'm Johnathan's girlfriend. 372 00:15:55,771 --> 00:15:57,021 - The painter, the artist? 373 00:15:57,021 --> 00:15:57,688 - Yeah. 374 00:15:57,688 --> 00:15:58,938 - [Woman] Oh. 375 00:15:58,938 --> 00:16:02,771 - I've never been to his work before. 376 00:16:02,771 --> 00:16:05,646 - The way it felt, by Tracy being there, 377 00:16:05,646 --> 00:16:07,229 and me being a unicorn and painting, 378 00:16:07,229 --> 00:16:10,354 was the fact that I'm facing a painting. 379 00:16:10,354 --> 00:16:11,980 I know Tracy's in the background. 380 00:16:11,980 --> 00:16:13,396 - [Tracy] I don't know what to do with myself. 381 00:16:15,855 --> 00:16:16,813 - [Tracy] Oh my. 382 00:16:16,813 --> 00:16:19,187 - I'm worried about what she was doing, 383 00:16:19,187 --> 00:16:20,312 how she was looking at me, 384 00:16:20,312 --> 00:16:20,771 what she felt. 385 00:16:20,771 --> 00:16:22,980 I don't know. 386 00:16:22,980 --> 00:16:24,312 - [Alina] How do you like Johnathan as a unicorn? 387 00:16:24,312 --> 00:16:25,604 - It's very different, 388 00:16:25,604 --> 00:16:28,396 I'm very grateful also that you allowed me. 389 00:16:28,396 --> 00:16:30,146 Like he really didn't want me to come. 390 00:16:30,146 --> 00:16:31,396 - Oh, really. 391 00:16:31,396 --> 00:16:32,604 - So we were like kind of fighting about it. 392 00:16:32,604 --> 00:16:37,479 - So maybe that's why the painting is not that great. 393 00:16:37,479 --> 00:16:39,104 Because it just moves. 394 00:16:40,396 --> 00:16:42,312 Let me know at the end of the night, 395 00:16:42,312 --> 00:16:44,521 like how you liked it, or like if there was something, 396 00:16:44,521 --> 00:16:45,855 I just hope like you guys will be okay, 397 00:16:45,855 --> 00:16:47,521 and you're not gonna flip out if you see something wrong. 398 00:16:47,521 --> 00:16:49,312 Please? 399 00:16:49,312 --> 00:16:50,688 - Oh yeah, I will, thank you. 400 00:16:50,688 --> 00:16:51,438 - But you know it means a lot to me, 401 00:16:51,438 --> 00:16:53,938 so I want everyone to be happy. 402 00:16:53,938 --> 00:16:56,104 - [Tracy] It's just the only thing is like when the guests 403 00:16:56,104 --> 00:17:00,104 come and they're touching, I just can't be seen. 404 00:17:01,521 --> 00:17:04,271 Like that is hard to get used to. 405 00:17:04,271 --> 00:17:07,104 - Do I feel any special by these women touching me? No. 406 00:17:07,104 --> 00:17:08,896 It's just another day at work. 407 00:17:08,896 --> 00:17:11,062 - [Tracy] Oh, oh, oh my. 408 00:17:13,271 --> 00:17:15,312 - But having her there, 409 00:17:15,312 --> 00:17:17,396 I'm afraid that she might explode, 410 00:17:17,396 --> 00:17:20,646 and create a scene, while I'm working. 411 00:17:27,813 --> 00:17:31,146 (piano music) 412 00:18:47,813 --> 00:18:51,479 (group applauding) 413 00:18:58,229 --> 00:19:00,896 (piano music) 414 00:19:16,688 --> 00:19:19,354 (dramatic orchestral music) 415 00:20:31,187 --> 00:20:34,062 (group applauding) 416 00:20:34,062 --> 00:20:36,396 - How many minutes do we got? 417 00:20:36,396 --> 00:20:37,312 - What do you mean? 418 00:20:37,312 --> 00:20:38,521 No minutes, it's like now. 419 00:20:46,187 --> 00:20:48,688 - Before my performance, I wanted to check in with Tracy, 420 00:20:48,688 --> 00:20:50,896 to make sure that she's comfortable with what they're doing, 421 00:20:50,896 --> 00:20:53,896 and what's going on in front of her. 422 00:20:55,271 --> 00:20:56,980 So what did you think? 423 00:20:56,980 --> 00:20:58,271 - You have to give me time to like, warm up to this. 424 00:20:58,271 --> 00:21:00,229 This is the first time I've ever seen you do, 425 00:21:00,229 --> 00:21:01,146 anything that you do. 426 00:21:01,146 --> 00:21:04,062 It just makes me think about everything. 427 00:21:04,062 --> 00:21:08,354 - Well, I don't think this is the right environment for you. 428 00:21:09,187 --> 00:21:10,104 You know, I care about you a lot, 429 00:21:10,104 --> 00:21:12,896 and you mean a lot to me. 430 00:21:12,896 --> 00:21:15,021 I just don't want you to hate me, okay? 431 00:21:15,021 --> 00:21:16,271 - [Tracy] Okay. 432 00:21:17,187 --> 00:21:18,521 - I gotta get going. 433 00:21:18,521 --> 00:21:20,604 I have to perform next. 434 00:21:20,604 --> 00:21:22,813 - I should leave, but I don't like to ever like, 435 00:21:22,813 --> 00:21:24,062 just give up. 436 00:21:28,813 --> 00:21:31,479 (dramatic orchestral music) 437 00:22:05,104 --> 00:22:06,730 Everybody has their own way of looking at life. 438 00:22:06,730 --> 00:22:10,104 Everyone has their own way of living their own lives, 439 00:22:10,104 --> 00:22:12,438 but this is a whole new world to me, 440 00:22:12,438 --> 00:22:16,730 and some of the things, this is too much. 441 00:22:16,730 --> 00:22:20,354 He told me that, he will do these events 442 00:22:20,354 --> 00:22:23,021 as long as they let him. 443 00:22:23,021 --> 00:22:25,271 If I were to be with him, 444 00:22:25,271 --> 00:22:28,104 and want to have a family with him, 445 00:22:29,354 --> 00:22:32,021 I know that he would still be doing these events, 446 00:22:32,021 --> 00:22:33,604 and it's really hard because, 447 00:22:33,604 --> 00:22:37,896 I've just spent so many of my emotions on him, 448 00:22:37,896 --> 00:22:39,187 and I feel like 449 00:22:41,688 --> 00:22:42,563 like, sorry, 450 00:22:44,021 --> 00:22:46,521 I get so worried and upset and stressed. 451 00:22:46,521 --> 00:22:50,479 It just makes me a mess and I never used to be like this. 452 00:23:00,062 --> 00:23:03,187 I do want him to leave this lifestyle, 453 00:23:03,187 --> 00:23:06,354 but I don't think he's ready to do that. 454 00:23:07,104 --> 00:23:09,271 So, I don't know. 455 00:23:23,354 --> 00:23:26,271 (phone ringing) 456 00:23:30,229 --> 00:23:30,938 - [Voice On Answering Machine] Hi, you've reached 457 00:23:30,938 --> 00:23:33,229 Melissa, leave me a message. 458 00:23:33,229 --> 00:23:34,104 I'll call you back. 459 00:23:34,104 --> 00:23:37,730 - Hey Mel, it's Damon, how are you? 460 00:23:37,730 --> 00:23:39,312 Just wanted to see you. 461 00:23:39,312 --> 00:23:41,896 Give me a call when you get the message. 462 00:23:41,896 --> 00:23:42,730 Okay, I love you, bye. 463 00:23:51,438 --> 00:23:52,354 You know, seeing Johnathan and his girlfriend 464 00:23:52,354 --> 00:23:54,646 unhappy and fighting, 465 00:23:54,646 --> 00:23:57,688 and confused and hurting, like I could totally relate. 466 00:24:00,396 --> 00:24:03,062 Thinking about my wife and my kids, and wanting that back, 467 00:24:03,062 --> 00:24:06,021 and I start to feel sad or lonely, 468 00:24:06,021 --> 00:24:07,938 and the biggest thing standing in between 469 00:24:07,938 --> 00:24:11,312 me and her being back together is Snctm. 470 00:24:11,312 --> 00:24:13,521 I miss you, I love you. 471 00:24:13,521 --> 00:24:15,646 - [Melissa] I know, I love you too. 472 00:24:22,771 --> 00:24:24,688 - My heart is still with Melissa. 473 00:24:24,688 --> 00:24:27,938 And I miss her and my kids, every day. 474 00:24:29,271 --> 00:24:32,271 But I've got to make some changes if I want them back. 475 00:24:32,271 --> 00:24:33,813 Hello? 476 00:24:33,813 --> 00:24:35,146 - [Melissa] Hey Damon. 477 00:24:35,146 --> 00:24:36,813 - Hey Mel, how are you? 478 00:24:36,813 --> 00:24:39,062 - [Mellissa] Good. 479 00:24:39,062 --> 00:24:41,938 (solemn jazz music) 33590

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