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I want to introduce Rob Tuck.
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Rob is Assistant Professor of Modern
Japanese Literature and Culture at
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State University as of this year, just
starting in.
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Rob had previously been at the
University of Montana, which, as many
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has its own long history in Japanese
studies.
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Rob got his PhD at Columbia in 2012, a
place that's
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dear to my own heart. And at Columbia,
he
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studied modern poetry, and especially
the poetry of the Meiji
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period, which is wonderful and at the
same time rare.
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Modern poetry generally is really
neglected, so we...
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think are going to owe a lot to Rob for
bringing modern poetry back onto the
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agenda. But particularly the poetry of
the Meiji period is
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difficult, unusual, sometimes seems
disconnected from
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before or after.
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So it's something really especially
important to devote attention to.
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That work has just recently resulted in
this great book, Idly Scribbling
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Rhymers, Poetry, Print, and Community in
19th Century Japan, which is recently
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out from Columbia. It's a book that is
structured around the career of the poet
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and critic.
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Masaoka Shiki, who among other things is
responsible for
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turning the Edo period practice of
haikai into what we now know as haiku.
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This book argues that, as we will hear
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more about today, that poetry really
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should be understood as having a central
place in the creation of modern
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Japanese nationality. And in literature,
perhaps, is more important than prose,
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which usually gets all of the attention,
and I'm guilty of that myself. And a
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couple of reasons.
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One is that poetry circles in Japan have
a lot of... participants.
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I mean, even now, right?
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There are a lot of so -called amateur
poets who are not really amateur in the
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sense of not being very good at it.
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They just have other ways to make their
living.
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And this was also true in the Meiji
period. Also in the Meiji period, poets
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poetry critics had an important part in
debates about, in a sense, the
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nationality of Japanese literature and
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in that respect, the creation of ideas
about a nation.
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And also Rob would argue that poetry,
through its emotional quality, can have
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much more significant impact on people's
sense of belonging than serialized
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novels, for example. And he talks about
all of it under the rubric of poetic
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sociality, which is a really interesting
idea that we will...
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hear a lot from.
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Rob is actually embarked on another
project already, which is the
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Nihongaishi. It's an important work of
19th century sort of restorationist
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historiography by Daisanyo.
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But I think we're really honored to have
him here today to talk about his recent
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book. Thank you. Thank you.
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All right, well, good afternoon,
everyone. As introduced, I am Robert
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Arizona State University.
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It is a great pleasure and an honor to
be invited here to talk a little bit
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about my research. I'd like to thank,
obviously, Chris Hill, but also Barbara
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Kinzer, Yuri Fukuzawa, everyone at the
CJS for making this possible here today.
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Now, as Chris just mentioned, My talk
here today is adapted in part from
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my recent book, Idly Scribbling Rhymers,
Poetry, Print, and Community in 19th
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Century Japan.
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I think I'm contractually obligated to
point out it is available from Columbia
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University Press with a very reasonable
price of $65.
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Now, again, as Chris pointed out, the
book is centered primarily on the work
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life of
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He was a haiku poet and literary critic
who,
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actually a contemporary, born at the
same time as Natsume Soseki, but died at
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the relatively young age of 35.
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He's often credited as being essentially
the founder, sometimes even the term
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father is used, of the genre that we
think of as the modern haiku. And his
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writing and work is going to be my
focus.
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here today.
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In the book, I actually look at three
different major genres of traditional
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Japanese poetry.
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Kanshi, which is poetry written
essentially in literary Chinese. We call
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Sinitic poetry.
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Waka, which is obviously, I think, one
of the oldest, if not the oldest,
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traditional verse form in Japanese.
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And Haikai, the pre -modern collection
of practices, including linked verse,
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hoku, senryu,
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point scoring haikai, which later became
known as haiku.
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Now, most studies of literature and the
nation in the Meiji period have taken
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the position that literature serves as a
focal point for increasingly cohesive
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ideas of community.
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In my book, I actually take kind of the
opposite position.
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I argue that there are some significant
fault lines in the idea of a national
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poetic community that we need to pay
closer attention to. And these fault
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are of gender, social class, and
political affiliation. And it's actually
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last two themes of social class and
political affiliation that we're going
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explore in the talk today.
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talk, I think, could perhaps be
described as something of a revisionist
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of haiku reform, of how haiku became
understood as literature. We're going to
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exploring the range of discourses and
ideas that accompanied the
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from pre -modern haikai into the modern
haiku during a quite specific
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and limited period, the Meiji 20s,
roughly the period 1890 to
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1900 or so. And what we'll see is a
range of ideas about how haikai can
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bungaku. This is the Japanese word
basically for literature.
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And when I say that this is a
revisionist talk, I want to say that
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specific assumptions about what haiku is
and what haikai was that I think I want
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to mention right at the start, which I'm
going to challenge here today.
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The first of these, very simply, is that
both haikai and haiku take as their
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primary focus the seasons and the
natural world, that they are primarily,
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exclusively, about these topics.
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This is something that has been...
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I think, taken as read. Sometimes it's
been the basis for criticism of haiku.
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1946, in a very famous polemic against
haiku as it was practiced in Japan at
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time, the critic Kuwabara Takeo wrote
that one cannot expect much from haiku
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when the process of writing it inspires
a child to notice for the first time
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that there is a moon in the sky. In
other words, his critique here is that
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natural world is a fairly boring realm
from which to draw one's material.
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Now, the flip side of this assumption
that haiku's domain is almost
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the natural world is that the function
of commentary on social, political,
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cultural matters, in essence human
affairs, is basically not done in haiku.
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if you do do it, that it's done through
haiku, I suppose you would call it a sub
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-genre of sengyu, a sort of a comic and
satirical counterpart to haiku, which is
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nevertheless formally distinct from it.
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So that's the first assumption that I
want to challenge today, basically that
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haiku, as we understand it, is
fundamentally apolitical.
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The second assumption is basically that
both haikai and haiku are popular
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literature, and by that I mean that they
are a literary genre that is by and for
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the common people, however we may define
that.
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This certainly holds true for pre
-modern haikai, which was written by
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tens of thousands, maybe even hundreds
of thousands of people in Japan during
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the Edo period.
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And a number of scholars have noted this
and commented on this.
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Eiko Ikegami, for instance, in her 2005
study, Bonds of Civility, suggests that,
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among other things, haikai networks,
precisely because of their social
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eclecticism, that anybody could join
them, commoners, samurai, nobles,
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actually formed one part of the origins
of modern Japanese civil society.
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And I think much the same assumption
also holds true for the modern haiku. I
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mean, Chris noted accurately that, to
the present day, It's practiced by, I
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think it's fair to say, millions of
people in Japan, certainly around the
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of the world as well. One of Shiki's
most famous disciples, Takahama Kiyoshi,
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actually is known to have observed with
a fair amount of pride that one in every
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100 Japanese people writes haiku. In
other words, it's a very commonly
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genre.
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I should note, just from my own
experience, I think haiku's reputation
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simplicity and accessibility means that
it's, in some cases, actually the only
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form of metered poetry that is taught in
English language school curriculums as
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well, something that is in some ways
somewhat sad for English language
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but it's nevertheless a fact here.
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So what I'm going to do today is to show
that when we look at Meiji haiku, Much
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of what we think we know about haiku is
wrong, to put it simply.
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The process of making haiku into
literature in Meiji, Japan, entailed a
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of operations of erasure and exclusion,
of drawing very clear boundaries between
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what was literature and what was not.
And not only that, but also drawing
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boundaries between who should be writing
literature and who should not be. And
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precisely because of this, when we look
at the Meiji period, I think it's
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necessary to rethink how haiku may or
may not have been understood as a
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potential national poetry, as a co
-creative, writes the word in Japanese
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meaning national poetry.
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So allow me to start then with the
question of haiku as a form of
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political commentary. As I noted
earlier, It's generally understood that
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basically doesn't do political
commentary. If you do sapphire...
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Comedy, sexual, scatological things,
they are usually done via the medium of
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senryu. This is a verse form that
follows haiku's 575 format,
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but which differs in a number of
important formal respects. It does not
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seasonal words, words that evoke the
four seasons. It doesn't use cutting
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such as kana, ya, keri, and so forth.
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I'm sorry, that actually should be the
other way around. Senryu uses vernacular
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rather than classical language, and it's
also usually anonymous.
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I should point out that the extent to
which haiku is even capable of
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the function of political commentary,
really up to the 21st century, is still
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very unsettled issue in Japan. In 2002,
the prominent Japanese
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haiku journal, entitled simply Haiku,
did a survey of 50 of Japan's
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most prominent haiku poets, asking them
a very simple question.
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haiku, should poets compose topical and
political haiku? And this, by way of
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context, obviously was a year after 9
-11 in the US and was also, I think,
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years after the 1995 Hanshin earthquake
and the Tokyo subway thawing gas attack.
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The results actually were interesting.
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Somewhat surprisingly, only four out of
50 said absolutely not, they should not
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be composing it. 23 said yes, they
should.
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who, almost half the sample, actually
answered, right?
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Among those, actually, were some people
who objected to the word should. The
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idea of beki -ra in Japanese, basically
saying that, well, there's no such thing
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as should in haiku. You can compose on
whatever you want.
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The 23 people who answered, yes, yes,
you should, argued, among other things,
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that yes, although haiku is commonly
understood as being focused on the
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world,
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In haiku, the human and the natural are
not really fully divisible, and haiku
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cannot be fully severed from the human
context in which it is produced.
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But one interesting thing here was that
virtually all of the 23 who responded
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that one should compose topical haiku
were unanimous on the point that
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commentary for haiku carried a certain
degree of danger. It was very easy when
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writing political haiku to produce bad
haiku.
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that political sloganeering or
mudslinging didn't add much to the genre
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fact was actually likely to make it
unliterary, to basically degrade its
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as literature.
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But what was not mentioned in this 2002
debate was that haiku on...
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Political and topical matters were
actually exceedingly common a little
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years earlier in the Meiji newspaper
world, and they were so common that
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was actually a specific name for them,
jiji haiku, current affairs or topical
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haiku. And Shiki himself, again, who is
regarded as basically the father of the
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modern haiku, actually wrote and
published a substantial number of jiji
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Let me give you one example.
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an example that feels eerily relevant.
This is from June of 1894 when the
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Japanese parliament, the Diet, was
actually dissolved by imperial order
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it could not agree on a budget for the
year. This feels eerily familiar at the
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moment.
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The summer grass, the Diet gate out in
front, there's no one there.
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The idea being that the Diet building
here, because it's been dissolved, is
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eerily empty.
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And if you're at all familiar with the
haikai tradition, the first line here
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probably rings a bell or two because
it's exactly the same first line as a
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famous hoku by the legendary poet Matsuo
Bato, Natsukusaya.
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all that's left of ancient warrior
dreams.
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And Basho composed this by way of
context on seeing the ruins of the
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of the powerful northern Fujiwara clan
in northern Japan. So the resonance here
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is somewhat like Ozymandias, the idea
that there is a...
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ruin or a monument to an arrogant and
overbearing civilization that ultimately
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meets its end. The implication, of
course, here is that for all their heirs
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graces, the parliamentarians in the Diet
are probably on the road to destruction
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as well.
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We'll look at just a few more examples
of topical haiku in a moment, but at
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point I want to make what I realize may
be a somewhat extraordinary claim, which
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is that In terms of what was being read
and consumed in the newspaper sphere, in
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the public sphere in 1890s Japan, it's
possible that topical haiku may actually
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have been the dominant mode of the genre
during the 1890s, not what we would
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think of as conventional nature -focused
literary haiku. And I want to highlight
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this claim here because I think it is
very...
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very much going against what we think of
as being haiku's main purpose here.
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Just as a couple of pieces of evidence
here, topical haiku were exceptionally
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widespread in virtually all Meiji
newspapers.
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The Tokyo Mainichi Shinbun ran a haiku
contest in October of 1895.
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It advised readers who might want to
send in their verses.
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Either topical verses or just plain
verses are fine.
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Tadanoku, for those of you who can read
Japanese, has almost the subtext that...
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copical haiku were the default and that
haranoku are just kind of almost boring,
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plain verses here.
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The same newspaper kept on doing this.
In 1895, for instance, sorry, in
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of the same year, the same newspaper
advised its readers on what to compose.
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wrote that copical compositions need not
necessarily be limited to political
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questions. Matters in society or
societal matters are also interesting.
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Saying, obviously, go ahead, compose on
matter. of politics here.
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I also want to point out that the two
most widely read newspapers in Japan
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-1895, and that date is significant
because it's the end of the Sino
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War, which led to a big boost in
newspaper circulation overall, the
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and the Osaka Asahi Shinbun. I mention
these because these were the first two
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newspapers in Japan to break the 100
,000 copies a day mark. These were by
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the most widely read newspapers.
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throughout the 1890s carried topical
haiku, but they did not carry what we
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think of as conventional literary haiku,
and neither of them actually did so
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until the turn of the century, until
after 1900 or so.
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So as I mentioned, Matawakashiki wrote a
substantial number of these politically
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focused haiku, and
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Part of the reason for this was that the
newspaper at which he worked, at which
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he began his career, which was called
Nippon, or very simply Japan, was
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extremely interested in politics and was
particularly antagonistic towards the
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major government, towards the government
of the time.
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On top of that, the 1890s, which...
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was the time when Shiki was just getting
started at that newspaper, were also
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extremely turbulent politically.
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There was a newly established
parliamentary system that was really
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working out the kinks in its operations.
There were frequent...
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what we would think of now as government
shutdowns. There was budgetary
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deadlock. The Diet, the Japanese
Parliament, was frequently dissolved by
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imperial order in order to reconvene and
try to solve the matter that was put
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before it.
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Shiki had a lot of fun with this. On one
occasion, when the Diet was dissolved,
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he wrote, bitter winter winds for 10
days or so,
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giving it a rest. The idea being that...
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where in English you might talk about
politicians producing hot air. In this
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case, he's likening them to producing
cold winter winds here. And all of the
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haiku we're about to see here, as you
can see, are set in the winter season.
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Around about the same time, the Speaker
of the House, whose name was Hoshi Toru,
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and Hoshi, if you speak Japanese, you'll
know, actually means, or can be
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understood as star, was facing a no
-confidence motion.
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And again, Shiki wrote,
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The speaker of the house, a fallen star.
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Okay. A freezing night, a single large
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star comes falling to Earth. The idea
being that this guy called Star has
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suffered something of a fall here.
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Other verses from around about the same
time go beyond simply domestic politics
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to also address international affairs.
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The unequal treaties that Japan had
signed with the Western powers in the
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had, among other things, initially
restricted
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the movements and place of residence of
foreigners in Japan.
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By 1890 or so, as a matter of, as a
practical matter, these restrictions
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generally being ignored and Westerners
were moving freely within Japan.
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Nationalistic newspapers such as Nippon
were very vocal in arguing that these
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treaty restrictions should be strictly
enforced so as to give Japan some
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leverage in negotiations with the West.
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Shiki's commentary on this,
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First, no fall.
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Boots shall not pass through the gate.
Boots being, obviously, stereotypically
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Westerner's footwear as opposed to Geta
or more traditional Japanese footwear
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here. Now, if you know anything about
the history of the Meiji government,
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you'll know they were not particularly
fond of criticism. On a number of
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occasions, Nippon was actually subject
to legal sanctions for publishing
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material that displeased the Meiji
government. The precise mechanism was
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actually what's called a suspend
publication order, which basically meant
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that you could not publish for a set
period of days as a punishment for
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something that displeased the
government. Again, Shiki and his
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responded to this through haiku.
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The passing spring, ah, the sadness of a
man who has no
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voice.
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Similar sort of thing happened a little
bit later, a couple of months after
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this. An extra edition of the newspaper
was actually banned as well.
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There are some men who would even tell
the cuckoo that it should not sing.
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As you may be aware, Shiki's pen name
actually means the cuckoo. So I think
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reasonable to conclude that this was his
work right here.
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Now, there's an obvious objection at
this point, which is that these verses,
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we've heard a few chuckles from coming
from around the room, they're mildly
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humorous, can perhaps be viewed really
as sennyu, despite my classification of
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them as being haiku. And this is, in
fact, an argument that a number of
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scholars have made, that yes, formally
these may be haiku, but properly they
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should be classed as sennyu. But I want
to stress that the...
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The purpose of writing these for the men
who wrote them, and they were almost
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exclusively men, was often as serious
social and political commentary by men
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believed they had to contribute to an
ongoing public discussion. And I should
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add, were also fully aware of what the
distinction between haiku and senju was,
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and chose very deliberately to write in
haiku.
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These were not necessarily intended
always to be funny or scatological in
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way that fen you often are. One example
of verse that's very serious in purpose.
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actually comes from 1897, a series of
verses published in Nippon commenting on
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the ongoing ecological disaster that was
the Ashio copper mine in northern
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Japan. Some of you may know about this,
but basically toxic runoff from the
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copper mine caused decades of
environmental devastation in the Ashio
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100 miles or so north of Tokyo. This
became a real cause for labor of the day
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the late 19th century in Japan.
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One of these verses here,
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On a mound of toxins, a wild fox
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lies dead, the spring moon. The point,
obviously, spring is supposed to be a
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time for growth, for renewal, for
burgeoning wildlife.
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Instead, what we have here is poison and
death. The wildlife has either died or
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has fled here.
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A second verse from the same sequence of
ten.
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Spring waters take on the stink of
copper. Fish
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do not live therein. Now, there's
actually a biting pun in the second line
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with dōshū, which literally means... the
smell of copper, which is obviously on
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its face a description of the pollution
resulting from the mine at Ashio.
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But dōshu, the smell of copper, can also
mean greed or avarice. So ultimately
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what this is is a critique both of what
the writer perceives of as the greed of
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the mine owner, Furukawa Ichibe, but
also I think implicitly a critique of
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Meiji government's growth at all costs.
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industrial policy.
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So this, I think, is definitely intended
as serious political commentary here.
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And I want to reiterate that simply
categorizing jiji haiku as
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another form of senryu is, to my mind,
extremely reductive. The people who were
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writing them, as I said, were fully
aware of the difference between senryu
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haiku and considered topical haiku to be
an entirely legitimate use of the
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genre. Now, at this point, one question
obviously arises. If topical haiku were
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so widespread and even perhaps
mainstream, what exactly happened next?
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this use of the genre not subsequently
continue?
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There's kind of an instructive example
here.
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In 1901, the Yomiuri Shinbon, which
then, as now, is one of Japan's most
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read newspapers, put out a call to its
readers.
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to submit what it called Jiji Mondai
Haiku, right? Current Affairs Haiku.
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This was taken a few days ago on the
Yomiuri Shimbun website. It still
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verse on topical matters from its
readers, only now...
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it refers to them, if you can read this
in Japanese, you'll know, as jiji senyu.
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In other words, the idea of the correct
verse form for public commentary on
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political matters has clearly shifted
here in the intervening 118 years now, I
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suppose.
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Part of the answer as to why this...
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political function for haiku didn't
really continue that much is that
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Shiki's own reform movement, known as
the Nippon Group for the newspaper
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which they gathered, deliberately
excluded it from their vision of what
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was. They argued, as we'll see in just a
second, that if haiku was going to be
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literature, it was necessary for the
political to be completely removed.
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In 1897, in the inaugural issue of the
haiku journal Hototogitsu, meaning
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the kuku, which was extremely
influential and is actually still
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today, one of Shiki's disciples, Naito
Mesetsu, explicitly addressed this. I
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think it's on the second page of the
inaugural issue. This is clearly
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to be something that attention is drawn
towards.
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If this, and by this he means the use of
haiku for political commentary,
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If this is as far as haiku is going to
go, then how is it different from senju?
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No, actually, senju would be rather
better than haiku for this purpose.
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And Meisetsu actually went on to argue
in this particular piece much the same
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thing that the critics from 2002 had
done. He argued that if you are
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on political matters, the risk is there
that you will lapse.
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into vulgarity, right? And vulgarity is
a bad thing. Rather than run that risk,
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it's safer, essentially, he argues, to
focus simply on the four seasons and the
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natural world.
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Shiki himself weighed into this debate
just a couple of months after Meisetsu
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himself, also in 1897.
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In this case, he was actually reviewing
a collection of kanji, of kinetic
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poetry, by his fellow poet at the New
Nippon, a person called Kokubu Seigai,
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was very famous in the Meiji literary
world for writing Kanshi almost on a
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basis, attacking the Meiji government,
attacking what he saw as corruption and
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malfeasance here.
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That same year, Seigai actually
published a collection of all of his
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pages and pages of Kanshi attacking the
Meiji government.
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Shiki's review was, on the whole,
positive, but he closed it by arguing
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The materials that Seigai's poetry
addresses are almost all vulgar, coarse,
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unclean, and ugly. This is extremely
unliterary. Again, if you can read
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Japanese, you'll notice hibungakuteki.
This is not literature.
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Therefore, for the most part, Forest of
Criticism, which was the name of
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Seigai's poetry collection,
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is not literature.
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And we should not judge it by the
standards of literature.
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Again, here.
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In other words, Shiki was...
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performing something of a pivot here,
having actually established himself to
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some degree by writing politically
focused verse, he was now doing a 180.
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He was actually arguing that the vision
of haiku that he was now laying out
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found that topical and political
commentary was simply incompatible with
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understood as literate. So this term
hibunga kuteki is a major one in his
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rhetoric that I'm going to return to
again and again.
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And Shiki himself had very clear and
perhaps somewhat arbitrary ideas of what
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was literature and what was not. And he
used this as frankly kind of an
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argumentative cudgel. One famous example
of this comes from 1895.
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This is almost always quoted in
discussions of Shiki's work in English.
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The hoku is literature.
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Link verse is not literature.
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Something is literature, something is
not literature.
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This is often claimed to be basically
the death knell for linked verse
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in... in modern Japan.
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And we see this rhetorical strategy
again and again and again in Shiki's
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writings. He uses this somewhat
Procrustean definition in all kinds of
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contexts. So if one of his definitions
of bungaku was that it could not contain
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any political content, another use of
his not literature division,
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actually comes in debate over the idea
that haikai was what's called commoner
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literature, heimin bungaku, essentially
the literature of the common people. And
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this was an idea that started to be
debated.
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from the early 1890s onwards. And not
coincidentally, this is the period
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about which the idea of kokubungaku, of
Japan's national literature, is also
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beginning to emerge as an academic
discourse in Japan here.
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Now, as far as I can tell, the first
time that the term Heimin Bungaku was
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applied to haiku actually was August of
1890 in the Yomiuri Shinbun
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newspaper. A poet by the name of Maeda
Ringai argued essentially that
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haikai should be Japan's national
poetry. It should be its kokuhi. The
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that he gave for this were really
twofold. Firstly, as he wrote that
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commoner poetry, a universal poetry, a
Japanese poetry, a uniquely oriental
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poetry. And he went on to add, everyone
among the people of our land, even at
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the lowest levels of society, possesses
a certain amount of artistic spirit. In
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00:33:53,150 --> 00:33:55,790
other words, everyone in Japan can...
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00:33:56,120 --> 00:34:02,420
Everyone in Japan should be writing
haiku. It should become our national
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here. And it doesn't matter what level
of society you may be at, you are still
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capable of composing it here. In other
words, the boundaries of haiku's
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poetic community, if we can use that
term, and the national community as a
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00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,760
are pretty much exactly the same here.
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00:34:20,380 --> 00:34:25,179
This idea of haikai as being commoner
literature was actually debated on and
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00:34:25,179 --> 00:34:29,179
over the next couple of years. Some
commentators claimed that it was a good
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00:34:29,179 --> 00:34:33,739
thing. Others claimed that it was a bad
thing. But there was no real
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disagreement with the basic idea that
haikai was indeed commoner literature
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until Shiki made his intervention
towards the end of 1892.
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00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:49,120
And this perhaps is somewhat surprising
given that Shiki has this reputation as
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the founder. of the modern haiku, which,
so we think we know, is a very broad
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00:34:53,389 --> 00:34:55,670
-based and popular literary genre.
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00:34:55,889 --> 00:35:01,410
But Shiki was actually extremely
critical of the idea that haikai could
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should be commoner literature.
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00:35:04,050 --> 00:35:09,270
He wrote, and I'll read this very
quickly here, for the twin reasons that
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00:35:09,270 --> 00:35:13,830
easy to compose and use as vernacular
language, haikai of late has acquired
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nickname of commoner literature.
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00:35:16,140 --> 00:35:20,420
This is a new entry in the Meiji
dictionary, to be sure, but nobody seems
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00:35:20,420 --> 00:35:24,760
to say for certain whether this is meant
as praise or mockery. In fact, many
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00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:28,660
people's judgment is that it can only be
meant as a slur. In other words,
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00:35:28,700 --> 00:35:31,060
commoner literature is actually a really
bad thing.
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00:35:31,340 --> 00:35:32,340
He goes on.
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00:35:33,020 --> 00:35:38,140
True literature, shin no bungaku, is
sublime and elegant, this core shore UV
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Japanese, and does not necessarily gain
the approval of large numbers of people.
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00:35:42,820 --> 00:35:47,520
And this is because, if anything, in
many respects, komona and literature are
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00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:53,840
almost completely incompatible here. So
true literature, in Shiki's view, cannot
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00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:58,180
be popular and broad -based. He says...
explicitly, almost in so many words,
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00:35:58,340 --> 00:36:03,020
commoner literature is a contradiction
in terms. We're back again here to
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00:36:03,020 --> 00:36:07,620
literature, not literature again, right?
There's very clear division between the
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00:36:07,620 --> 00:36:14,360
two here. Now, I should point out that
Masaoka Shiki in 2000's parlance was
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00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:19,380
something of a troll. He often made very
provocative statements in the print
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00:36:19,380 --> 00:36:24,400
media, which he didn't necessarily
adhere to later on in his career.
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00:36:24,720 --> 00:36:25,720
However,
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00:36:26,770 --> 00:36:31,730
this point that haikai could not be
commoner literature was something that
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00:36:31,730 --> 00:36:35,850
was actually very consistent on
throughout the whole of his career.
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00:36:36,050 --> 00:36:41,590
A couple of years later, responding to a
different critic's argument that haikai
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was kokumin bungaku, in other words, the
literature of the people of the nation,
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00:36:46,730 --> 00:36:51,430
he wrote much the same thing. I'm sorry,
I missed this, but commoner
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00:36:51,430 --> 00:36:54,070
literature... is not part of literature.
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00:36:54,290 --> 00:36:58,710
It is bungaku igai. It is outside of
literature. This was another term that
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00:36:58,710 --> 00:36:59,730
used quite frequently.
463
00:36:59,950 --> 00:37:03,880
But with regard to kokumin bungaku, He
says much the same thing.
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00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:08,340
Literature large numbers of citizens can
appreciate, for the most part, will be
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00:37:08,340 --> 00:37:13,500
literature of the very lowest rank,
entirely unworthy of the term. If by
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00:37:13,500 --> 00:37:17,180
literature of the nation's people they
mean something extra literary, again,
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00:37:17,240 --> 00:37:21,500
bungaku igai here, then that's fine, but
if not, then I simply can't understand
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00:37:21,500 --> 00:37:26,100
what they mean by the term. I wonder if
it means the same thing as commoner
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00:37:26,100 --> 00:37:27,700
literature here. So, once again,
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00:37:28,860 --> 00:37:33,400
we're back to this idea that a
literature everybody can be involved in
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00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:37,740
literature. Basically, it's a
contradiction in terms. But almost by
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00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:43,300
for haiku to become literature, it has
to become an elite genre here.
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00:37:43,700 --> 00:37:47,340
Now, this does, of course, raise the
question, well, who precisely then
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00:37:47,340 --> 00:37:52,710
should... be writing haiku if so -called
commoners had to be excluded in the
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00:37:52,710 --> 00:37:54,170
process of it becoming literature?
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00:37:54,510 --> 00:37:59,450
Well, the simplest answer is that
literature, bungaku, in Shiki's view,
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00:37:59,450 --> 00:38:04,590
be written by men of letters, bungaku
-sha. And this is a term that crops up
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00:38:04,590 --> 00:38:09,250
repeatedly in Shiki's writings and a
number of others active in haiku reform
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00:38:09,250 --> 00:38:10,590
around about the same time.
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00:38:11,050 --> 00:38:15,730
Shiki doesn't really offer a clear
definition for who he thinks a bungaku
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00:38:15,730 --> 00:38:17,230
actually should be.
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00:38:17,450 --> 00:38:21,090
But from the way that he uses the term,
and certainly from the demographics of
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00:38:21,090 --> 00:38:24,910
the haiku reform movement, it seems
pretty clear that this idea
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00:38:25,720 --> 00:38:30,920
of a bungaku -sha had a great deal to do
with social class and particularly with
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00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:32,220
educational background.
486
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:37,220
It heavily favored those who had
attended one of the elite higher schools
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00:38:37,220 --> 00:38:43,180
Japan and particularly those who had
graduated from Tokyo Imperial
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00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:47,320
Shiki himself actually was a dropout of
that institution, but that never seems
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00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:48,860
to have stopped him.
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00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:55,720
Now, the idea that the bungaku -sha,
those who had the proper academic
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00:38:55,720 --> 00:39:00,680
credentials to define what literature
was, was actually pretty widespread
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00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:05,340
the major haiku reform groups active in
Tokyo at this time.
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00:39:05,860 --> 00:39:11,100
Now, Shiki's Nippon group is almost
always the center of narratives of haiku
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00:39:11,100 --> 00:39:15,120
history, but there were at least two
other groups that were engaged in the
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00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:18,920
project of trying to make haiku into a
modern literary genre.
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00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:24,970
One of these was known as the Teikoku
Bungaku group. This was a a group that
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00:39:24,970 --> 00:39:30,570
affiliated with the really academic
journal, Keikoku Gungaku, Imperial
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00:39:30,570 --> 00:39:34,630
Literature, which was published by and
run almost exclusively by...
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00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,500
graduates of Tokyo Imperial University.
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00:39:37,780 --> 00:39:44,180
So almost by definition, they had the
appropriate academic credentials here.
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00:39:44,180 --> 00:39:48,360
there's another group active at the same
time who I think have largely been
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00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:53,920
written out of narratives of haiku
history, and that is the Shu Seikai, the
503
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:55,840
Autumn Wind Society.
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00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:57,800
This was a...
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00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:03,980
actually regarded in Tokyo during the
mid -1890s as the premier haiku reform
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00:40:03,980 --> 00:40:08,040
group, not Shiki's Nippon group. Part of
the reason for that...
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00:40:08,430 --> 00:40:13,530
was that one of its leading lights was
the very famous prose fiction author
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00:40:13,530 --> 00:40:19,690
Ozaki Koyo. He actually was a haiku poet
as well. And many of the members of his
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00:40:19,690 --> 00:40:23,610
prose writers group, the Ken Yusha, the
Friends of the Inkstone, were also
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00:40:23,610 --> 00:40:30,610
members of the Shuseikai. The other
major member was perhaps less well
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00:40:30,610 --> 00:40:35,070
-known figure in literary studies, a
lawyer, a criminal lawyer called Kakuta
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00:40:35,070 --> 00:40:38,880
Chikure, who was, I think, a very well
-connected politician. figure in Tokyo.
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00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:43,960
He's also, I think, a Tokyo City
assemblyman. But he also composed haiku,
514
00:40:44,020 --> 00:40:47,440
basically, in his spare time here.
515
00:40:47,940 --> 00:40:54,160
Now, the Fuseikai, the Autumn Wind
Society, was somewhat more eclectic than
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00:40:54,160 --> 00:41:00,200
Shiki's group, but they too still
emphasize social class and educational
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00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:03,840
background in the vision of haiku that
they were promoting.
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00:41:04,180 --> 00:41:10,940
In 1897, for instance, one of the
group's members, Mori Muko, notes that
519
00:41:10,940 --> 00:41:15,800
people have criticized Masaoka Shiki for
introducing the language of academic
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00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:20,960
literary criticism to analyze haikai,
even though, as he says, haikai is
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00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:24,940
something that... even the illiterate
workman class can grasp.
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00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:29,880
He goes on, reformers must develop a
sophisticated critical vocabulary, and
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00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:35,040
this he means things like time, space,
etc., etc., for haiku so that what he
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00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:41,400
calls educated society, kyoiku aru
shakai, can understand it. And he
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00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:46,620
this is really important in order for us
to have the middle and upper classes
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00:41:46,620 --> 00:41:50,880
learn about the way of haiku. This is
chuto ijo.
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00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,080
nor shakai here.
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00:41:53,300 --> 00:41:59,500
So in other words, at least Morimuko, as
part of the Fuseikai, understood the
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00:41:59,500 --> 00:42:04,260
mission of haiku reform to be about
introducing haiku to what we might term
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00:42:04,260 --> 00:42:08,360
better elements of society, the middle
class and upwards.
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00:42:09,420 --> 00:42:13,260
And I really do want to emphasize that
this rhetoric of class distinctions was
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00:42:13,260 --> 00:42:16,260
mainstay of all of the haiku reform
groups.
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00:42:16,580 --> 00:42:23,300
Masaoka Shiki, again, writing in 1896,
is quite clear on this. Even if a new
534
00:42:23,300 --> 00:42:28,640
style haiku should gain more widespread
popularity, those ill -educated barbers,
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00:42:28,720 --> 00:42:33,420
fishmongers, grocers, store clerks, and
young apprentices will never come within
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00:42:33,420 --> 00:42:37,260
its bounds. We have some pretty clear
rhetoric here.
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00:42:38,700 --> 00:42:43,860
today say that haiku is plebian, it's
heimin teki, but the new faction will
538
00:42:43,860 --> 00:42:48,820
never allow itself to become plebian in
the same way as the old school.
539
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:55,160
And I want to highlight the word old
school here, in Japanese the kyūha,
540
00:42:55,160 --> 00:43:01,140
this was a group of haikai masters who
in many cases had actually been active
541
00:43:01,140 --> 00:43:03,200
from before the Meiji Restoration.
542
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:09,780
And it's useful here because the Kyuha,
the old school, provides concrete
543
00:43:09,780 --> 00:43:14,320
reality to the commoners, right? This
is, I think, who Shiki meant in many
544
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:17,000
by the commoners of commoner literature.
545
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:24,000
And if you read almost any English
language account of haiku history,
546
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:28,240
that the old school, the Kyuha masters,
are basically the bad guys.
547
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:32,500
Donald Keen's work, for instance, pretty
much says that they were terrible.
548
00:43:32,860 --> 00:43:38,440
Janine Beischmann, Shiki, I think,
rather uncritically reproduces this idea
549
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:45,200
here. The standard view of the Kyuha,
the old school here, is that as
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00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:46,460
poets they were...
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00:43:47,770 --> 00:43:53,430
mercenary, incompetent, unserious. They
produced largely worthless, abstruse
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00:43:53,430 --> 00:43:58,330
verse that was little more than riddles.
In other words, the old school would
553
00:43:58,330 --> 00:44:02,450
never have been capable of producing
anything that could be termed a modern
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00:44:02,450 --> 00:44:03,450
literary genre.
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00:44:03,670 --> 00:44:09,110
And it's worth saying that in modern
Japanese language scholarship as well,
556
00:44:09,110 --> 00:44:13,850
is... widely accepted. There's, to my
knowledge, only a handful of Japanese
557
00:44:13,850 --> 00:44:18,370
language studies that actually take the
so -called old school masters remotely
558
00:44:18,370 --> 00:44:24,850
seriously. So the modern history of
haiku, I think, in many ways is a
559
00:44:24,850 --> 00:44:28,690
history. It is written from the point of
view of Shiki and the Reform Group. But
560
00:44:28,690 --> 00:44:33,030
just by way of bringing our talk today
towards a conclusion, I think there's
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00:44:33,030 --> 00:44:38,660
room in, or there's value in not taking
this this assumption or this idea of the
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00:44:38,660 --> 00:44:43,560
kyuha as being useless entirely at face
value, to actually have a look at what
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00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:48,380
they thought about everything that was
going on during the 1890s. And when we
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00:44:48,380 --> 00:44:51,940
this, this really, I think, completes
the picture that I have been trying to
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00:44:51,940 --> 00:44:57,620
paint here of haiku reform as
inextricably connected to questions of
566
00:44:57,620 --> 00:45:04,340
class, because they fully understood
this idea of a new movement in haiku as
567
00:45:04,340 --> 00:45:06,970
being connected with those. exact
issues.
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00:45:07,470 --> 00:45:14,350
Now, I should point out that even after
Shiki's rise to prominence, old school
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00:45:14,350 --> 00:45:19,370
masters and their disciples remained
numerically far greater. There were far
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00:45:19,370 --> 00:45:22,050
more of them than Shiki and his groups.
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00:45:22,350 --> 00:45:26,330
And they were actually still very
active. The old school masters remained
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00:45:26,330 --> 00:45:30,750
active even after Shiki had really begun
to lay into them.
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00:45:31,250 --> 00:45:38,050
Their rhetoric as to what haiku was, was
really in sharp contrast to
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00:45:38,050 --> 00:45:39,290
that of Shiki.
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00:45:39,550 --> 00:45:44,730
I think a year after Shiki had written
his broadside here about, again, shop
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00:45:44,730 --> 00:45:50,750
clerks and fishmongers, two old school
masters, Ashinan Setsujin and Kikapido
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00:45:50,750 --> 00:45:57,230
Eiki, advertised a collection of their
works with the rhetoric that haikai was
578
00:45:57,230 --> 00:46:03,090
genre that was held in common by society
as a whole, and a genre in in which, as
579
00:46:03,090 --> 00:46:07,370
they put it, the voices of town and
country, high and low, forever chant
580
00:46:07,370 --> 00:46:11,970
together. In other words, it doesn't
matter who you are. You can write haiku.
581
00:46:12,010 --> 00:46:15,350
It's a genre that creates essentially
unity here.
582
00:46:15,950 --> 00:46:22,810
A month or two after that, the literary
journal Bungei Kurabu had another haiku
583
00:46:22,810 --> 00:46:24,870
competition where readers could send in
their verses.
584
00:46:25,330 --> 00:46:31,370
This was supervised by an old school
master who wrote very simply, Haikai is
585
00:46:31,370 --> 00:46:35,530
commoner literature of our country. So
the old school were actually using the
586
00:46:35,530 --> 00:46:39,610
term heiminbungaku in a largely positive
sense. They thought this basically was
587
00:46:39,610 --> 00:46:41,770
a good thing here.
588
00:46:42,970 --> 00:46:47,230
Other writings from around about the
same time by old school masters really
589
00:46:47,230 --> 00:46:49,530
reinforce this overall point here.
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00:46:49,850 --> 00:46:54,450
One of the most prominent old school
masters throughout really the whole of
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00:46:54,450 --> 00:46:57,370
Meiji period was Mimori Mikio.
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00:46:57,630 --> 00:47:03,850
And writing in 1898 in the journal
Bungei Kurabu that we just saw,
593
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:11,320
He actually launched an attack on what
he called scholars, the gakuta, who he
594
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:15,480
thought were confusing people who were
new to haikai. They were basically
595
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:21,280
disrupting everything. He wrote, In
today's scholarly world, there is a
596
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:26,340
to use one's own theories in order to
tear down the past. And I want to
597
00:47:26,340 --> 00:47:31,160
highlight the gaksha chakai here. He has
a very clear idea as to who exactly is
598
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:32,160
meant by this.
599
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:37,900
There are many, he writes, who for all
their studies are not well versed in the
600
00:47:37,900 --> 00:47:42,120
great way of haikai. In other words,
these highfalutin academics with all
601
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:46,600
fancy theories, they don't actually know
anything about haikai.
602
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:51,900
In this same piece, Mimori Mikio
actually goes on to single out a member
603
00:47:51,900 --> 00:47:57,900
Teikoku Bungaku group called Sasa
Seisetsu and write somewhat acidly
604
00:47:57,900 --> 00:48:01,440
of Sasa Seisetsu's criticism.
605
00:48:01,660 --> 00:48:06,660
We must lament that one who holds a
degree in literature should be so
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00:48:06,660 --> 00:48:10,700
points of grammar and have no
understanding of the deeper meaning.
607
00:48:11,240 --> 00:48:15,900
of haiku here. In other words, Sasa
Seisetsu would basically take an issue
608
00:48:15,900 --> 00:48:18,220
Mimori Mikio's use of classical Japanese
grammar.
609
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:22,340
Mimori Mikio basically fired back by
saying that the grammar was not
610
00:48:22,420 --> 00:48:25,700
it was about the overall meaning here.
611
00:48:26,100 --> 00:48:30,380
So I think the battle lines seem
relatively clear here. The reform
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00:48:30,380 --> 00:48:35,300
least from the point of view of the old
school, are a bunch of over -educated
613
00:48:35,300 --> 00:48:39,540
elitists who, for all of their fancy
theories and their academic credentials,
614
00:48:39,900 --> 00:48:45,920
really don't actually know anything much
about Haikai. And this is a point
615
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:46,920
that's actually...
616
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:53,340
reinforced by another piece from 1900 by
an Osaka -based master called
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00:48:53,340 --> 00:49:00,220
Ote Kinsho, who the piece in question
was called Pointless Discussions
618
00:49:00,220 --> 00:49:02,840
on Haikai, Haikai Mizukakeron.
619
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:06,960
Mizukakeron in Japanese means a
discussion that's a complete waste of
620
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:13,700
And what he does is he frames this as a
conversation on a veranda, a Japanese
621
00:49:13,700 --> 00:49:16,380
-style veranda, in the summer between
two people.
622
00:49:16,720 --> 00:49:22,500
the old -school master self -proclaimed
elegance, and the reformer who is
623
00:49:22,500 --> 00:49:27,900
identified as commoner with a lit
degree, the Heimin Bungakushi. As you
624
00:49:27,900 --> 00:49:28,900
expect, this...
625
00:49:29,100 --> 00:49:33,380
doesn't go particularly well. This
rapidly degenerates into an exchange of
626
00:49:33,380 --> 00:49:36,560
insults here, and I'll just quickly
summarize this.
627
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:40,420
This is the master self -proclaimed
elegance who is talking here first.
628
00:49:40,820 --> 00:49:44,760
Look, listen here. When it comes down to
it, your so -called new school is just
629
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:48,080
a handful of beginners, and it's a bit
much for them to go around attacking
630
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:49,900
Haikai at large.
631
00:49:50,380 --> 00:49:54,240
The commoner with a lit degree replies,
that's enough out of you. That's not at
632
00:49:54,240 --> 00:49:55,240
all true.
633
00:49:56,740 --> 00:50:00,380
What's not true about it? You go and
become Haikai critics on the spot even
634
00:50:00,380 --> 00:50:04,260
though the fact of the matter is you've
composed barely 50 verses in your life
635
00:50:04,260 --> 00:50:09,040
and start talking about commoner
literature and Haikai is kinetic poetry
636
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:13,800
syllables and all sorts of serious stuff
like that and you can you can see a
637
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:17,280
measure of contempt coming through here
even though it's fairly humorous that
638
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:23,540
basically you have young, over -educated
men who are basically assuming that
639
00:50:23,540 --> 00:50:27,980
their academic credentials give them the
ability to understand haikai, even
640
00:50:27,980 --> 00:50:32,860
though they have little or no practical
experience in it.
641
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:39,980
Now, I should note that in most
respects, the old school comprehensively
642
00:50:39,980 --> 00:50:45,320
the argument as to what haiku was going
to be in the Meiji period. But in terms
643
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:51,040
of their valorization, their positive
assessment of haiku as heimin bungaku,
644
00:50:51,260 --> 00:50:52,780
they actually prevailed.
645
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:55,360
After Shiki's death in 1902,
646
00:50:56,190 --> 00:51:01,970
And particularly after the Russo
-Japanese War of 1904 to 5, we actually
647
00:51:01,970 --> 00:51:07,190
to see something of a 180 in critical
discourse on Heimin Bungaku.
648
00:51:07,870 --> 00:51:14,510
Writing in 1905, the literary historian
Iwaki Juntaro actually
649
00:51:14,510 --> 00:51:20,790
argues that haikai, precisely because it
was, Heimin Bungaku, had actually been
650
00:51:20,790 --> 00:51:26,050
responsible for Japan's victory in the
Sino -Japanese War, sorry, the Russo
651
00:51:26,050 --> 00:51:31,190
-Japanese War, in part because he argued
that it had created a coherent sense of
652
00:51:31,190 --> 00:51:32,190
national identity.
653
00:51:32,430 --> 00:51:34,950
It was a genre that everybody could
compose.
654
00:51:35,230 --> 00:51:39,090
He even went so far as to argue that
haikai had been responsible for
655
00:51:39,090 --> 00:51:45,210
that awful word bushido, the way of the
warrior among the Japanese populace, and
656
00:51:45,210 --> 00:51:48,250
that this had been responsible for
Japan's victory. victory.
657
00:51:48,550 --> 00:51:54,170
And then perhaps a rather more striking
example, in 1912, with the accession of
658
00:51:54,170 --> 00:51:59,850
the Taisho emperor to the throne, none
other than Kakuta Chikure, the lawyer we
659
00:51:59,850 --> 00:52:04,190
saw as a major part of the Shuseikai,
who had seen his mission as promoting
660
00:52:04,190 --> 00:52:09,070
haiku to the middle and upper classes,
actually presented the Taisho emperor
661
00:52:09,070 --> 00:52:14,590
with a book on haikai, or haiku, by
which he claimed, and these were his
662
00:52:14,730 --> 00:52:18,410
his majesty may learn about the subtle
charms of commoner literature.
663
00:52:18,650 --> 00:52:22,490
In other words, he decided now it was
actually a positive thing. And I think
664
00:52:22,490 --> 00:52:28,090
this was a sort of view that strongly
influenced the prevailing idea of haiku
665
00:52:28,090 --> 00:52:31,230
broad -based and popular that we have to
this day.
666
00:52:31,830 --> 00:52:36,710
So to wrap it up then, I think I've
shown that the process of making haiku
667
00:52:36,710 --> 00:52:37,710
literature
668
00:52:37,950 --> 00:52:43,810
during Meiji was a fair bit more
complicated than perhaps has previously
669
00:52:43,810 --> 00:52:48,330
realized, and that in the background
there were multiple discourses of
670
00:52:48,330 --> 00:52:54,290
of both competing people and also
competing visions of haiku and haikai as
671
00:52:54,290 --> 00:52:59,630
genre. The exclusion of the political,
despite very widespread popularity of
672
00:52:59,630 --> 00:53:06,030
haiku as topical commentary, and also
the exclusion of what Shiki repeatedly
673
00:53:06,030 --> 00:53:12,950
referred to as the ill -educated, the
refashioning of haiku as a largely
674
00:53:12,950 --> 00:53:13,950
elite genre.
675
00:53:14,170 --> 00:53:15,990
And I think if I want to make...
676
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:20,300
one sort of final take -home point, it
would be that Meiji Haiku, in addition
677
00:53:20,300 --> 00:53:25,720
providing us with a fascinating and
often richly entertaining body of
678
00:53:25,720 --> 00:53:31,200
understudied texts, also offers us an
opportunity to see that what we may
679
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:37,940
commonly think of as trans -temporal
elements of haiku, not as being
680
00:53:37,940 --> 00:53:42,500
natural to the genre, something inherent
to haikai and to haiku, but as
681
00:53:42,500 --> 00:53:47,500
something that was certainly contested
and in many cases was also quite
682
00:53:47,500 --> 00:53:48,800
deliberately created.
683
00:53:49,100 --> 00:53:50,100
Thank you.
684
00:53:59,660 --> 00:54:04,960
So we have time for some questions, and
I think Rob is going to field his own
685
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:08,740
questions. So please go ahead.
686
00:54:09,940 --> 00:54:12,980
Actually, if I just start off with one.
687
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:19,560
You had talked about these two processes
of the exclusion of politics and the
688
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:25,420
antagonism toward the idea of Hamin
Bungaku, and I'm just curious that by
689
00:54:25,420 --> 00:54:26,980
time in the 1890s, Hamin...
690
00:54:28,380 --> 00:54:33,460
was more and more associated with
socialism and the Hamin Shinbun.
691
00:54:33,700 --> 00:54:39,200
I'm wondering if those two processes
would in some way come together, not
692
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:44,760
as antagonism toward Hamin Bungaku, but
toward... Yeah, it's also associated
693
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:47,960
with the freedom and popular rights
movement, right? I mean, the Hamin
694
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:51,720
One of the... I didn't cite this here
today, but the...
695
00:54:53,870 --> 00:54:56,810
Some of the critics who are actually
writing on haiku as Heimin Bungaku are
696
00:54:56,810 --> 00:55:00,310
approaching it specifically from a
freedom and popular rights movement,
697
00:55:00,310 --> 00:55:01,370
idea of Heimin Shugi.
698
00:55:01,770 --> 00:55:07,350
What's interesting is that their
perspective is that, yes, haiku was, or
699
00:55:07,350 --> 00:55:12,930
was, Heimin Bungaku, but that this was
actually a bad thing, that haikai was
700
00:55:12,930 --> 00:55:16,470
fundamentally a docile form of
literature. It was what...
701
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:21,340
brainwashed commoners during the Edo
period consoled themselves with. It
702
00:55:21,340 --> 00:55:26,520
any kind of energy for freedom and for
popular rights here. With regards to the
703
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:33,100
connection to socialism, I'm not aware
of that connection being made
704
00:55:33,100 --> 00:55:39,200
explicitly. I don't think Shiki wrote
about it in those terms.
705
00:55:40,340 --> 00:55:42,480
Soseki, though, actually did.
706
00:55:42,740 --> 00:55:44,980
He was one of those people who
707
00:55:46,170 --> 00:55:51,650
I think after Shiki's death, kind of
took up the idea of Haikai as being
708
00:55:51,650 --> 00:55:53,670
Bungaku in a relatively positive sense.
709
00:55:53,890 --> 00:55:58,490
I would not want to be quoted on this,
but I think in his writings, he actually
710
00:55:58,490 --> 00:56:02,130
says that his Heimin Shugi is quite
thoroughgoing.
711
00:56:02,350 --> 00:56:05,630
And in some respects, he is actually
quite sympathetic to socialism.
712
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:11,200
I've got a translation of one of
Karatani Korjin's pieces on Soseki and
713
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:15,300
coming out very soon, I hope, which
actually makes this exact point, that
714
00:56:15,300 --> 00:56:19,680
Soseki's, what he called, commonerism
was actually really quite thoroughgoing.
715
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:26,460
In terms of socialism, I mean, Nippon as
a newspaper was...
716
00:56:27,570 --> 00:56:31,830
It's difficult to characterize its
political views. It's often referred to
717
00:56:31,830 --> 00:56:37,090
nationalistic, but it was not
necessarily nationalistic in the sense
718
00:56:37,090 --> 00:56:38,090
chauvinistic.
719
00:56:39,850 --> 00:56:45,390
Kuga Katsunan, the editor of Nippon, is
on record as having expressed a lot of
720
00:56:45,390 --> 00:56:51,390
interest in byodo shugi, in
egalitarianism. He didn't necessarily
721
00:56:51,390 --> 00:56:55,670
might think of as classic Meiji
nationalism. I think he had a much more
722
00:56:55,670 --> 00:56:57,970
-based idea of popular...
723
00:56:59,700 --> 00:57:01,880
popularism, I think you might refer to
it.
724
00:57:02,180 --> 00:57:06,500
So, yeah, I don't think, I'm not aware
of there ever being an explicit
725
00:57:06,500 --> 00:57:11,620
connection being drawn with socialism as
such, but certainly the broader
726
00:57:11,620 --> 00:57:16,260
resonances of the term Heiminbungaku are
very definitely a play in this overall
727
00:57:16,260 --> 00:57:17,380
discussion. Yes.
728
00:57:19,860 --> 00:57:21,080
Okay. Yeah.
729
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:24,520
This is one of those short answer
questions, I'm afraid.
730
00:57:25,930 --> 00:57:29,450
Thank you for this lecture because it's
answered a lot of questions that have
731
00:57:29,450 --> 00:57:31,870
formed in my mind over the years about
Japanese poetry.
732
00:57:32,190 --> 00:57:37,910
But I'm going back to the survey that
you mentioned earlier and the answers.
733
00:57:38,110 --> 00:57:44,390
And I was struck by the fact that there
were four people who said, no, you can't
734
00:57:44,390 --> 00:57:45,390
go beyond nature.
735
00:57:45,530 --> 00:57:50,850
And I was wondering, is there a
geographical analysis of that? Were
736
00:57:50,850 --> 00:57:55,090
the people that were farthest away from
the epicenter of the event?
737
00:57:55,420 --> 00:57:58,460
or this is from a cultural historian
point of view.
738
00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:03,500
Yeah, that's a very good question. I
would have to go back and check. I don't
739
00:58:03,500 --> 00:58:08,660
know whether this was marked
geographically or not.
740
00:58:09,540 --> 00:58:15,640
I mean, I will say, just very briefly on
geography, it's worth noting
741
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:20,720
that Shiki and his group very clearly
understood themselves as geographic
742
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:23,100
outsiders. They were from Matsuyama.
743
00:58:23,660 --> 00:58:29,920
down in Shikoku for the most part, and
they saw themselves as kind of moving in
744
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:31,340
on the territory of the Tokyoites.
745
00:58:31,580 --> 00:58:34,660
So there was certainly, I think, a
geographic distinction there.
746
00:58:35,740 --> 00:58:40,980
I'm afraid I would have to go back and
check. I don't remember offhand from the
747
00:58:40,980 --> 00:58:43,640
survey in question, but it's certainly
possible.
748
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:31,480
Yeah.
749
01:00:04,620 --> 01:00:07,820
What kind of links do you see between
those two?
750
01:00:08,940 --> 01:00:15,000
That is a discovery of landscape, which
of course is an ethnic national
751
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:16,000
landscape.
752
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:20,640
What's going on there?
753
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:22,680
That's an excellent question.
754
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:27,340
The potential connections to Sassé here
are ones that I didn't explore because
755
01:00:27,340 --> 01:00:30,820
it wasn't the main focus of my book, but
I certainly came across a lot of stuff
756
01:00:30,820 --> 01:00:34,050
that I think can constitute an answer to
your question. Yeah, you're absolutely
757
01:00:34,050 --> 01:00:39,430
right. The anecdote was that Shiki
basically said, look, go out. Go and see
758
01:00:39,430 --> 01:00:42,630
you find. Just write about what you see.
Write about what is in front of you.
759
01:00:43,610 --> 01:00:46,790
Put on your sedge hat and go out for a
walk in the country.
760
01:00:47,470 --> 01:00:54,150
Now, in terms of Shate itself, as being
very strongly focused on
761
01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:58,820
objective description, and usually,
though not always, objective description
762
01:00:58,820 --> 01:01:03,600
nature, it seems almost as if this is
kind of an anecdote to a potentially
763
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:09,080
undesirable degree of politicization in
haiku at the time. It, I think,
764
01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:15,160
resonates quite well with Naito
Meisetsu's idea that it's simply too
765
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:20,940
to be looking at things that may be
vulgar. The natural world carries no
766
01:01:20,940 --> 01:01:21,940
dangers here.
767
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:23,260
I should note...
768
01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:30,160
Tsuki himself wrote the topical haiku
that we've looked at mostly under
769
01:01:30,260 --> 01:01:35,240
I don't think he really liked doing it
particularly, but he was told by his
770
01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:39,600
at Nippon that he had to do it. This was
something that was done in the
771
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:40,920
newspapers of the time.
772
01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:48,140
But it was actually the connection here
is through Nippon that Tsuki
773
01:01:48,140 --> 01:01:51,160
first, I think, was introduced to the
idea of shate because one of his...
774
01:01:51,340 --> 01:01:57,140
closest colleagues was Nakamura Fusetsu,
this western style painter who pretty
775
01:01:57,140 --> 01:02:02,820
much came up with the or at least
inspired in Shiki the idea and there is
776
01:02:02,820 --> 01:02:07,820
direct point of connection here because
Nakamura Fusetsu was actually working
777
01:02:08,380 --> 01:02:12,960
hand in glove with Shiki at precisely
the point that Shiki was writing those
778
01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:15,620
poems on censorship that I showed
earlier.
779
01:02:16,060 --> 01:02:21,920
And Fusetsu actually produced several
pictures that were political commentary
780
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:28,700
and of themselves. The word Hakko for
circulation is a homonym
781
01:02:28,700 --> 01:02:35,220
in Japanese for radiance. And Nakamura
Fusetsu actually, as a form of his own
782
01:02:35,220 --> 01:02:37,040
kind of personal
783
01:02:37,790 --> 01:02:41,870
commentary on this, drew a picture of an
ugly woman trying to blow out a
784
01:02:41,870 --> 01:02:46,390
shielded gas lamp with the caps and
extinguishing radiance. And so that was
785
01:02:46,390 --> 01:02:47,390
own sort of commentary.
786
01:02:48,090 --> 01:02:52,250
But Shiki himself actually told his
editor, look, stop having him do this.
787
01:02:52,470 --> 01:02:55,190
He's an artist. We don't want him doing
political stuff.
788
01:02:55,510 --> 01:03:01,230
And it was very shortly after that that
most of Fusetsu's subsequent drawings
789
01:03:01,230 --> 01:03:03,130
were landscape, nothing else.
790
01:03:03,450 --> 01:03:07,430
And I think that was certainly one point
of contact, one of the things that may
791
01:03:07,430 --> 01:03:12,710
have given Shiki the idea here. So,
yeah, it's all in the mix, if you see
792
01:03:12,710 --> 01:03:18,690
mean. I mean, my sense of chassé is that
in part it was conceived of as a way of
793
01:03:18,690 --> 01:03:23,270
directing the focus very strongly onto
the natural world. I think it would be a
794
01:03:23,270 --> 01:03:27,010
little bit overstating the case to say
that it was simply a reaction to the
795
01:03:27,010 --> 01:03:31,270
popularity of political haiku, but I
would argue that was certainly one of
796
01:03:31,270 --> 01:03:32,270
factors in there.
797
01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:39,260
I just want to know, are you aware of
other countries going through a debate
798
01:03:39,260 --> 01:03:42,720
like this over a national poetry?
799
01:03:44,180 --> 01:03:50,800
It doesn't seem like the United States
has ever had that, but even in
800
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:51,940
Asia at that time.
801
01:03:52,180 --> 01:03:57,880
Right, yeah. So there's a couple of
factors going on here. I mean, one is
802
01:03:57,880 --> 01:03:58,880
that...
803
01:04:00,350 --> 01:04:05,370
An observation that I think holds true
for the U .S. and for, at least for the
804
01:04:05,370 --> 01:04:10,410
English -speaking world. I can't speak
authoritatively outside of that. But
805
01:04:10,410 --> 01:04:15,770
newspaper poetry, which to my mind is
the kind of poetry that is most likely
806
01:04:15,770 --> 01:04:18,890
be engaged with political matters, is...
807
01:04:19,150 --> 01:04:22,850
pretty common in the English -speaking
world, I think at least to the beginning
808
01:04:22,850 --> 01:04:29,610
of the 20th century, although it's not
that widely studied because the focus,
809
01:04:29,610 --> 01:04:33,710
I think Chris alluded to right at the
very beginning, is almost always on the
810
01:04:33,710 --> 01:04:37,050
serialized novel, right? I mean, we
think of Charles Dickens, we think of
811
01:04:37,050 --> 01:04:40,390
kinds of writers, that's the primary
focus when we think about the connection
812
01:04:40,390 --> 01:04:44,870
between print media and literature, and
also I would argue we have to throw
813
01:04:44,870 --> 01:04:46,050
politics into the mix.
814
01:04:46,290 --> 01:04:51,850
I wouldn't be surprised if you did see
satirical ditties and poetry of that
815
01:04:51,850 --> 01:04:55,190
kind, certainly in English -speaking
media.
816
01:04:55,530 --> 01:04:58,710
I don't know for certain, but I wouldn't
be at all surprised.
817
01:04:59,150 --> 01:05:04,390
Now, the area where I can answer this
most authoritatively is in terms of
818
01:05:04,390 --> 01:05:07,390
Chinese poetry or kanji in Japan.
819
01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:13,800
Now, I mean, at least in the Chinese
perspective, it's my understanding, and
820
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:16,860
there's any sinologists here, they can
perhaps correct me on this, that during
821
01:05:16,860 --> 01:05:21,980
the period that we were discussing, the
1890s, there were very few, if any,
822
01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:26,460
periodic regularly published newspapers
in China at the time. That's my
823
01:05:26,460 --> 01:05:30,520
understanding. Perhaps you can correct
me on this if I'm... Okay.
824
01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:33,320
Okay.
825
01:05:37,960 --> 01:05:42,400
Okay, so not entirely accurate then. But
yeah, okay, thank you. I stand
826
01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:47,960
corrected. But the thing about, I mean,
kinetic poetry, about Kanshi, it
827
01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:52,420
actually has a very, very long history
of engaging with political issues. I
828
01:05:52,420 --> 01:05:56,320
mean, in fact, it's almost understood
that it's one of the duties of the
829
01:05:56,320 --> 01:06:03,200
Kanshi poet to be speaking out on
matters of concern to the nation. And,
830
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:04,600
I mean, I...
831
01:06:04,910 --> 01:06:10,190
would not be at all surprised to find
that you would see poetry on those
832
01:06:10,190 --> 01:06:16,090
matters in the Chinese media. You
definitely did with Kanshi in Japan
833
01:06:16,090 --> 01:06:17,870
the whole of the 19th century.
834
01:06:18,150 --> 01:06:24,610
The poet whose work Shiki was
criticizing as non -literary was a prime
835
01:06:24,610 --> 01:06:29,430
of that. And in fact, there was an
ongoing debate with the editor of the
836
01:06:29,430 --> 01:06:30,730
newspaper in which...
837
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Kokubu Seigai was publishing, making
very similar arguments. This guy is a
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talented poet. He's wasting his time
writing this political junk. It's not
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literature. It's political diatribe set
to a rhyme scheme.
840
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This is the work of some sort of rustic
bumbler.
841
01:06:48,830 --> 01:06:51,790
incredibly talented poet, but he's
spending all his time writing this
842
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stuff. And that was not because, I
think, Kuga Katsunan, the editor of
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necessarily disagreed with him. I mean,
I think as far as I can tell, he was
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entirely in sympathy with Seigai's
political views. It was really very much
845
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an artistic point of view, that
basically...
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In much the same way as commoner and
literature were incompatible, political
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commentary and poetry were, in some
sense, also incompatible. So there's an
848
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ongoing debate here, and I wouldn't wish
to give the impression that, you know,
849
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although, as I have argued...
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Jijimondai, topical haikai, are
extremely common, I wouldn't want to
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impression that that was uncontested.
There was certainly an ongoing debate at
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the time as to whether that was
appropriate.
853
01:07:39,460 --> 01:07:44,160
So, yes, I would be astonished if there
weren't parallel examples in certainly
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the English language press.
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I mean, given the focus on political
issues throughout the whole of the 19th
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01:07:50,820 --> 01:07:53,340
century, I would be astonished if there
isn't some kind of political poetry
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there.
858
01:07:54,320 --> 01:07:55,620
Yeah. Okay.
859
01:07:56,320 --> 01:07:59,460
One last question. Thank you for the
talk.
860
01:07:59,900 --> 01:08:05,760
I was curious about how those people saw
Tanka.
861
01:08:06,980 --> 01:08:13,660
You didn't mention Tanka in any of the
debates you cited.
862
01:08:13,860 --> 01:08:16,840
I was wondering what they were talking
about.
863
01:08:18,920 --> 01:08:20,260
That's an excellent question.
864
01:08:20,620 --> 01:08:23,120
It's one that has a fairly clear answer.
865
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The thing about tanka, or waka as it's
initially understood in the Meiji
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01:08:30,390 --> 01:08:34,990
is that it has a much closer
relationship to the Meiji government
867
01:08:34,990 --> 01:08:39,330
haiku or kanji does. There is an
official office in the Meiji government
868
01:08:39,330 --> 01:08:45,890
the outadokoro, which is basically
charged with using waka
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pretty much as a means of national
subject formation, of kokumin kese, the
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01:08:51,490 --> 01:08:57,689
establishment, for instance, of the
utakai hajime. I think this is Meiji
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01:08:57,689 --> 01:09:04,410
1873 or 4. Basically, the New Year's
practice of the emperor composing
872
01:09:04,410 --> 01:09:09,810
a waka verse and having his citizens
also respond dates from around about
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01:09:09,810 --> 01:09:16,319
time. And it actually happens that a
number of the poets who are affiliated
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01:09:16,319 --> 01:09:21,479
this Outa Dokoro published in Nippon.
They're actually publishing in the same
875
01:09:21,479 --> 01:09:28,240
newspaper, partly because Kuga Katsunan,
the editor, believes that waka is
876
01:09:28,240 --> 01:09:34,899
important. It's really important to
encourage its growth and it's important
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01:09:34,899 --> 01:09:36,620
to the nation.
878
01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:38,180
They're actually...
879
01:09:38,620 --> 01:09:44,220
The Ōta -dokuro poets are publishing in
Nippon almost right up to the day when
880
01:09:44,220 --> 01:09:49,040
Mataoka Shiki publishes his very famous
1898 Utayomi ni Atorusho.
881
01:09:49,380 --> 01:09:55,000
These letters to a tanka poet or a waka
poet in which he really lays into the
882
01:09:55,000 --> 01:10:01,900
Ōta -dokuro. He points out their
incompetence, their fundamental
883
01:10:01,900 --> 01:10:08,520
poets. But there is actually a very
direct parallel here, because if you
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few months before Shiki begins the
serialization of this series of comments
885
01:10:14,040 --> 01:10:18,520
waka, you actually see political waka as
well.
886
01:10:18,940 --> 01:10:25,160
And it's Ochiai Naobumi and
887
01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:29,580
Yosano Tekan, who are the ones who are
actually doing this. There's a very
888
01:10:29,580 --> 01:10:36,420
similar verse to the verse about first
snowfall. Boot
889
01:10:36,420 --> 01:10:37,560
shall not pass through the gate.
890
01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:42,400
I won't embarrass myself by trying to
recall the Japanese off the top of my
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01:10:42,400 --> 01:10:48,760
head, but it's basically, the imagery
is, they plan to plant the
892
01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:54,260
demon rose, right? They plan to plant
the demon rose here in the shade of our
893
01:10:54,260 --> 01:10:59,540
sakura tree. And the headline, or the
title, is naichi zakyō, mixed residence.
894
01:10:59,700 --> 01:11:01,000
Basically, the idea that...
895
01:11:01,480 --> 01:11:04,360
foreigners might be allowed to reside
without any restrictions in Japan.
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01:11:04,780 --> 01:11:09,200
And I think it's Yosano Tekkan writes of
waka commenting on that using the image
897
01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:14,500
of rose, a demon rose being planted in
the shade of the sakura tree. It's a
898
01:11:14,500 --> 01:11:19,080
similar sort of thing. So it does
happen. There are definitely examples of
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01:11:19,080 --> 01:11:23,800
being used as a form of explicit
political commentary. And that, in some
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01:11:23,860 --> 01:11:26,920
is even more surprising because that, I
think, is...
901
01:11:27,160 --> 01:11:31,580
definitely not understood as being a
part of the genre. I mean, we may
902
01:11:31,580 --> 01:11:36,540
on the way in which Heian waka might
seem as if they allude to certain
903
01:11:36,540 --> 01:11:38,260
in Heian court intrigue, but...
904
01:11:38,810 --> 01:11:43,010
To have waka being used as a direct way
of criticizing the government is
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extremely unusual.
906
01:11:44,750 --> 01:11:49,150
So, yes, there are some very direct
parallels. I say the main difference
907
01:11:49,150 --> 01:11:54,810
from the very close association between
the state government and waka, which is
908
01:11:54,810 --> 01:11:58,010
not necessarily there with Kanshi and
haiku. So, yes, there is a connection.
909
01:12:00,150 --> 01:12:06,290
So, thank you, and thank you for your
questions. Please join me in thanking
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01:12:06,290 --> 01:12:07,290
again for his talk.
911
01:12:07,310 --> 01:12:08,310
Thank you.
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