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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:21,555 --> 00:00:23,356 Why are you tearing them down? 2 00:00:23,389 --> 00:00:25,568 - Get the fuck out of my face. - Innocent people were kidnapped. 3 00:00:25,592 --> 00:00:27,426 [foreign language] 4 00:00:27,460 --> 00:00:29,630 - All right, I think that's good. - Have a good day. 5 00:00:29,663 --> 00:00:31,931 Fuck you, fuck you, and burn in hell. 6 00:00:31,965 --> 00:00:34,333 Bring them home! Bring them home! 7 00:00:34,367 --> 00:00:36,002 When I see people tearing them down, 8 00:00:36,036 --> 00:00:37,103 I don't understand. 9 00:00:37,137 --> 00:00:38,304 It's not something political. 10 00:00:38,337 --> 00:00:41,207 These people are being exploited 11 00:00:41,241 --> 00:00:45,545 to get support for a genocidal war against Palestinians. 12 00:00:45,579 --> 00:00:47,280 (somber music) 13 00:00:47,313 --> 00:00:50,250 This is about 75-plus years 14 00:00:50,283 --> 00:00:51,918 of a settler colonial state. 15 00:00:51,951 --> 00:00:53,754 ♪ 16 00:00:53,787 --> 00:00:55,689 It's hard for me to think about this individual 17 00:00:55,722 --> 00:00:57,223 ripping down this poster 18 00:00:57,257 --> 00:00:59,726 and going home and feeling good about what they did. 19 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:04,230 The whole purpose of putting those was to agitate. 20 00:01:04,264 --> 00:01:06,967 It was to rile people up. 21 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:10,203 Those people who've ripped down posters of hostages 22 00:01:10,236 --> 00:01:13,139 reveal themselves to have no humanity. 23 00:01:13,172 --> 00:01:13,940 (applause) 24 00:01:13,974 --> 00:01:15,075 (siren wailing) 25 00:01:16,142 --> 00:01:19,445 You're ripping down posters of kidnapped Jewish babies 26 00:01:19,479 --> 00:01:22,415 in your little Yasser Arafat scarves. 27 00:01:22,448 --> 00:01:24,383 Make no mistake, the posters are propaganda. 28 00:01:24,417 --> 00:01:26,052 Of course they are. It's a trap. 29 00:01:26,086 --> 00:01:28,421 And you're willingly walking into the trap. 30 00:01:28,454 --> 00:01:30,890 (crowd yelling) 31 00:01:30,924 --> 00:01:34,160 ♪ 32 00:01:34,193 --> 00:01:35,762 (tearing noise) 33 00:01:36,596 --> 00:01:38,799 ♪ 34 00:01:39,633 --> 00:01:41,101 (street noises) 35 00:01:41,134 --> 00:01:42,544 (news anchor) We start with news that broke 36 00:01:42,568 --> 00:01:44,470 over the weekend on Saturday, 37 00:01:44,504 --> 00:01:47,206 marking a dark day in the history of Israel. 38 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:49,408 The Islamist militant group Hamas launched 39 00:01:49,442 --> 00:01:51,678 a surprise attack on Israel. 40 00:01:51,711 --> 00:01:53,479 (reporter) Under the cover of the missiles, 41 00:01:53,513 --> 00:01:55,816 a large-scale infiltration began, 42 00:01:55,849 --> 00:01:59,886 as Hamas militants crossed by land, sea, and air. 43 00:01:59,919 --> 00:02:02,221 The gunmen tore through the streets, 44 00:02:02,255 --> 00:02:04,825 leaving a trail of casualties behind. 45 00:02:04,858 --> 00:02:10,130 At least 1,200 Israelis are said to have died. 46 00:02:11,164 --> 00:02:13,033 (Liam) On the evening of October 6th, 47 00:02:13,066 --> 00:02:15,568 I was actually on a friend's couch. 48 00:02:15,601 --> 00:02:16,636 (soft music) 49 00:02:16,670 --> 00:02:19,439 My cousin Sharon lives in Nir Oz, 50 00:02:19,472 --> 00:02:22,275 which is only a mile away from Gaza. 51 00:02:25,979 --> 00:02:27,346 (she laughs) 52 00:02:27,380 --> 00:02:29,749 (Liam) So, usually, everyone checks up on her 53 00:02:29,783 --> 00:02:31,551 to see if she's okay. 54 00:02:31,584 --> 00:02:34,888 Sharon was not answering her phone. 55 00:02:34,921 --> 00:02:36,823 And I heard also at the same time 56 00:02:36,856 --> 00:02:40,193 that my cousin Danielle, who is Sharon's sister, 57 00:02:40,226 --> 00:02:41,928 was visiting for the weekend. 58 00:02:43,763 --> 00:02:45,899 (all) Mazel Tov! 59 00:02:45,932 --> 00:02:50,369 Yeah, we kind of just sat around watching the news, 60 00:02:50,403 --> 00:02:52,105 desperate for information, 61 00:02:52,138 --> 00:02:53,873 waiting and trying to be hopeful. 62 00:02:53,907 --> 00:02:56,109 in Southern Israel, but what is more concerning 63 00:02:56,142 --> 00:02:58,044 is these infiltrations of militants, 64 00:02:58,078 --> 00:03:01,181 and we are hearing harrowing reports from Israeli civilians 65 00:03:01,214 --> 00:03:02,782 who have been barricading themselves 66 00:03:02,816 --> 00:03:04,617 in their bomb shelters, in their safe rooms, 67 00:03:04,650 --> 00:03:07,220 going on the airwaves, calling, pleading, begging for help. 68 00:03:07,253 --> 00:03:08,621 I kept telling my brother, 69 00:03:08,654 --> 00:03:11,858 "Oh, it's okay, there just isn't, um... 70 00:03:11,891 --> 00:03:14,627 there just isn't service within the mamad (safe-room)." 71 00:03:14,660 --> 00:03:17,330 I... I had to make myself believe that everything was okay. 72 00:03:17,363 --> 00:03:19,298 ♪ 73 00:03:19,332 --> 00:03:22,502 And then, we got the horrific voice note. 74 00:03:42,421 --> 00:03:47,527 And that was the last voice note that she sent to her family. 75 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:48,728 ♪ 76 00:03:48,762 --> 00:03:51,197 (Liam) I was just scrolling on TikTok, 77 00:03:51,231 --> 00:03:53,733 and I came across this video 78 00:03:53,767 --> 00:03:58,104 of what looked to be Israelis on a tractor 79 00:03:58,138 --> 00:04:00,240 with Hamas terrorists around them, 80 00:04:00,273 --> 00:04:02,008 bringing them into Gaza. 81 00:04:02,042 --> 00:04:04,343 (shouting) 82 00:04:04,377 --> 00:04:10,283 ♪ 83 00:04:10,716 --> 00:04:12,952 (Alana) When I spotted her in the video, 84 00:04:12,986 --> 00:04:16,056 I had no doubt in my mind that it was her. 85 00:04:16,089 --> 00:04:18,624 Sharon was just here, in New York, 86 00:04:18,657 --> 00:04:19,860 and she came to my home, 87 00:04:19,893 --> 00:04:22,461 and I did her hair in my kitchen, 88 00:04:22,495 --> 00:04:24,898 and so, it was really a fresh memory 89 00:04:24,931 --> 00:04:27,433 of her hair and the back of her head. 90 00:04:28,068 --> 00:04:32,772 Six of my family members were taken hostage by Hamas. 91 00:04:32,806 --> 00:04:34,374 It was... 92 00:04:34,407 --> 00:04:36,409 ♪ 93 00:04:36,442 --> 00:04:39,946 It's really hard to put into words, um... 94 00:04:39,979 --> 00:04:42,382 In a way, I think I... 95 00:04:42,415 --> 00:04:45,484 I just tried to not think of the worst. 96 00:04:45,518 --> 00:04:48,088 Tonight, dozens of Israelis who lived in these communities 97 00:04:48,121 --> 00:04:50,857 are still missing and believed to be kidnapped. 98 00:04:51,224 --> 00:04:53,293 (Alana) My family is honestly... 99 00:04:53,326 --> 00:04:54,895 I know people say this, 100 00:04:54,928 --> 00:04:59,866 but the warmest, most loving, funny, kind, generous. 101 00:04:59,900 --> 00:05:03,002 - And who's this here? - That's Amelia. 102 00:05:03,036 --> 00:05:05,972 Right before was Danielle, um... 103 00:05:06,005 --> 00:05:07,773 They're babies, I mean, they're children. 104 00:05:07,807 --> 00:05:09,109 Like, what can I say? 105 00:05:09,142 --> 00:05:11,510 They're beautiful, and they're funny, 106 00:05:11,544 --> 00:05:15,681 and they're silly little kids, you know? 107 00:05:15,714 --> 00:05:17,117 Like, look at her, 108 00:05:17,150 --> 00:05:18,527 she's making a little heart with her hands. 109 00:05:18,551 --> 00:05:19,986 (Liam) That's Sharon right there. 110 00:05:20,019 --> 00:05:22,155 (Alana) Sharon and David and the twins. 111 00:05:22,188 --> 00:05:23,857 (interviewer) Liam, what would you say 112 00:05:23,890 --> 00:05:26,126 to the people holding your family hostage right now? 113 00:05:26,159 --> 00:05:27,327 Those terrorists? 114 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:28,962 (Liam) These are human beings, 115 00:05:28,995 --> 00:05:33,566 and I'm begging them to please release them. 116 00:05:33,599 --> 00:05:35,068 Please. 117 00:05:35,101 --> 00:05:37,103 (traffic noises) 118 00:05:40,573 --> 00:05:44,577 I started to spot these posters around, um, 119 00:05:44,610 --> 00:05:48,614 to see that other people cared about them, 120 00:05:48,648 --> 00:05:53,353 without even me asking them to care about them, was... 121 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:57,891 something that really helped me get through 122 00:05:57,924 --> 00:06:00,326 every day since October 7th. 123 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,496 It meant, like, the world to me, 124 00:06:03,529 --> 00:06:05,465 uh, to see that people cared. 125 00:06:05,498 --> 00:06:08,134 (soft, tense music) 126 00:06:08,168 --> 00:06:16,168 ♪ 127 00:06:32,725 --> 00:06:37,530 ♪ 128 00:06:45,671 --> 00:06:53,671 ♪ 129 00:07:02,855 --> 00:07:08,694 ♪ 130 00:07:13,299 --> 00:07:15,768 (television reporter) During the raid, some fighters 131 00:07:15,801 --> 00:07:18,972 also took Israelis as hostages. 132 00:07:19,005 --> 00:07:21,574 Literally dragging people across the border with Gaza, 133 00:07:21,607 --> 00:07:23,676 including a Holocaust survivor in a wheelchair. 134 00:07:23,709 --> 00:07:26,912 (shouting, screaming) 135 00:08:02,482 --> 00:08:07,487 ♪ 136 00:08:27,973 --> 00:08:32,178 ♪ 137 00:10:57,956 --> 00:11:01,427 ♪ 138 00:11:27,653 --> 00:11:32,458 We are here at 95th and Lex posting these. 139 00:11:32,491 --> 00:11:35,295 (dramatic music) 140 00:11:35,328 --> 00:11:38,798 (tape stretching) 141 00:11:38,831 --> 00:11:45,238 ♪ 142 00:11:59,352 --> 00:12:07,352 ♪ 143 00:12:12,298 --> 00:12:14,734 The posters are popping up on street corners across New York 144 00:12:14,767 --> 00:12:16,436 and other cities around the world. 145 00:12:16,469 --> 00:12:18,271 They show Israelis who have gone missing 146 00:12:18,304 --> 00:12:19,939 or are being held hostage. 147 00:12:19,972 --> 00:12:22,107 (television reporter) Posters of the hostages taken 148 00:12:22,140 --> 00:12:23,576 by the Hamas monsters 149 00:12:23,609 --> 00:12:25,445 are plastered just about everywhere. 150 00:12:25,478 --> 00:12:27,356 (television reporter 2) Little Raz might be from Israel, 151 00:12:27,380 --> 00:12:29,849 but her photo and story is reaching 152 00:12:29,882 --> 00:12:31,550 all corners of the city, 153 00:12:31,584 --> 00:12:34,487 along with hundreds of others who are now missing. 154 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:37,122 (mournful music) 155 00:12:37,155 --> 00:12:45,155 ♪ 156 00:12:46,599 --> 00:12:50,135 I couldn't focus on my day-to-day at all, 157 00:12:50,168 --> 00:12:52,571 or anything mundane. 158 00:12:52,605 --> 00:12:56,241 Um, it was immediately action. 159 00:12:56,275 --> 00:12:57,810 I took off from my job, 160 00:12:57,843 --> 00:12:59,512 so I wasn't really doing anything else, 161 00:12:59,545 --> 00:13:02,882 other than thinking about this conflict, my family. 162 00:13:03,649 --> 00:13:06,151 I began to put up these posters 163 00:13:06,184 --> 00:13:09,121 basically every day throughout New York. 164 00:13:09,154 --> 00:13:12,425 It kind of became my mission. 165 00:13:12,458 --> 00:13:15,561 ♪ 166 00:13:15,594 --> 00:13:18,564 (horns honk, distant siren wails) 167 00:13:18,597 --> 00:13:21,367 ♪ 168 00:13:21,401 --> 00:13:24,437 (Nina) I learned about the poster campaign 169 00:13:24,470 --> 00:13:26,472 fairly early on. 170 00:13:26,506 --> 00:13:29,875 The hardest ones to see were the children, 171 00:13:29,909 --> 00:13:32,277 the Cunio twins, 172 00:13:32,311 --> 00:13:34,947 the Bibas babies, 173 00:13:34,980 --> 00:13:39,084 and the one that really hit home on a very personal level 174 00:13:39,117 --> 00:13:41,253 was Noya Dan. 175 00:13:41,286 --> 00:13:43,722 Noya was autistic, 176 00:13:43,756 --> 00:13:45,491 and that was personal, 177 00:13:45,525 --> 00:13:47,493 because I have a son who's autistic. 178 00:13:47,527 --> 00:13:50,530 I just remember thinking, "Oh, my God!" 179 00:13:50,563 --> 00:13:53,533 And I had the same thought her mother apparently had, 180 00:13:53,566 --> 00:13:56,469 which was, "Thank God she was with her grandmother. 181 00:13:56,502 --> 00:13:58,904 Thank God she was with someone who loved her," 182 00:13:58,938 --> 00:14:03,175 even in that worst of all possible circumstances. 183 00:14:03,208 --> 00:14:04,777 (dark music) 184 00:14:04,810 --> 00:14:08,013 I went from the sort of "Oh, my God" horror 185 00:14:08,047 --> 00:14:11,016 to, "Okay, you can't sit there and curse the darkness. 186 00:14:11,050 --> 00:14:12,552 What are you gonna do?" 187 00:14:12,585 --> 00:14:18,057 ♪ 188 00:14:18,090 --> 00:14:21,093 One of the things that I was so curious about, 189 00:14:21,126 --> 00:14:24,830 uh, seeing the posters go up all over the place, 190 00:14:24,864 --> 00:14:28,634 is why it was that people spontaneously were doing this. 191 00:14:28,667 --> 00:14:33,205 ♪ 192 00:14:33,238 --> 00:14:36,809 The effects of post-traumatic stress disorder 193 00:14:36,842 --> 00:14:40,446 are sometimes mitigated if, during a trauma, 194 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:43,115 someone takes action. 195 00:14:43,148 --> 00:14:44,683 And I think this is one of the reasons 196 00:14:44,717 --> 00:14:47,285 why people felt instinctively 197 00:14:47,319 --> 00:14:49,187 that they needed to do something. 198 00:14:49,221 --> 00:14:50,823 ♪ 199 00:14:50,856 --> 00:14:52,791 Even people who had never met 200 00:14:52,825 --> 00:14:56,028 those people who were taken hostages, 201 00:14:56,061 --> 00:14:57,863 they are all re-enacting 202 00:14:57,897 --> 00:15:01,867 that first action that family members and friends were doing, 203 00:15:01,901 --> 00:15:05,203 which was, "We are looking for our loved ones. 204 00:15:05,237 --> 00:15:06,972 We're trying to find them. 205 00:15:07,006 --> 00:15:09,775 Does anybody know where they are?" 206 00:15:09,808 --> 00:15:17,049 ♪ 207 00:15:17,082 --> 00:15:23,155 I really didn't do much in regards to hanging posters. 208 00:15:23,623 --> 00:15:28,226 I... I barely had energy to eat or shower. 209 00:15:28,260 --> 00:15:29,962 (sentimental music) 210 00:15:29,995 --> 00:15:33,933 On October 7th, after my mom woke me up that morning, 211 00:15:34,500 --> 00:15:36,368 I just saw, I couldn't even tell you 212 00:15:36,401 --> 00:15:40,673 how many people posting, "Come Home, Omer." 213 00:15:41,474 --> 00:15:44,143 I don't think my body was ready or meant 214 00:15:44,176 --> 00:15:48,914 to feel that amount of pain or grief. 215 00:15:49,649 --> 00:15:54,086 Omer had been taken hostage. I grew up with Omer, 216 00:15:54,119 --> 00:15:56,755 so, even though we didn't talk frequently, 217 00:15:56,789 --> 00:15:59,191 the bond was still very prevalent. 218 00:15:59,959 --> 00:16:01,661 (boy) So, what's your theme? 219 00:16:01,694 --> 00:16:04,997 (Julia) I think we should do a pirate theme for "Arrgh" C. 220 00:16:05,030 --> 00:16:06,999 (Omer) That's gonna be a "no" for me. 221 00:16:07,032 --> 00:16:09,168 ♪ 222 00:16:09,201 --> 00:16:10,469 (Julia laughs) 223 00:16:11,637 --> 00:16:14,707 (Julia) I was grieving, which was a very strange thing 224 00:16:14,740 --> 00:16:20,312 to kind of grieve a person that is still alive. 225 00:16:21,013 --> 00:16:25,383 And I was so grateful for the people who'd put up posters. 226 00:16:25,851 --> 00:16:28,787 It made me feel less alone. 227 00:16:29,221 --> 00:16:33,626 Like, it reminded me of all of our memories, 228 00:16:33,659 --> 00:16:36,461 'cause in all the pictures, he's smiling, 229 00:16:36,495 --> 00:16:38,396 which is very on-brand for him. 230 00:16:38,430 --> 00:16:40,499 ♪ 231 00:16:40,533 --> 00:16:44,169 And then you realize why you're seeing his face, 232 00:16:44,203 --> 00:16:47,439 and it just kind of 233 00:16:47,472 --> 00:16:50,408 takes the floor out from under you every time. 234 00:16:50,442 --> 00:16:51,910 ♪ 235 00:16:51,944 --> 00:16:56,215 (protestor) Avigail was taken as hostage all by herself 236 00:16:56,248 --> 00:16:59,084 after both of her parents were murdered, 237 00:16:59,118 --> 00:17:02,688 and her siblings stayed alive only because 238 00:17:02,722 --> 00:17:08,193 they, uh, stayed in the closet for almost 10 hours. 239 00:17:08,761 --> 00:17:11,396 We got to know her as a three-year-old, 240 00:17:11,430 --> 00:17:15,034 but today, she's already four years old. 241 00:17:15,067 --> 00:17:17,502 And, as surreal as it is, 242 00:17:17,536 --> 00:17:21,406 we know that when she'll come out, 243 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:25,286 we want her to know that we celebrated her birthday. 244 00:17:25,310 --> 00:17:29,323 (all) ♪ Happy Birthday to you ♪ 245 00:17:29,347 --> 00:17:34,095 ♪ Happy birthday, dear Avigail ♪ 246 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:37,222 ♪ Happy Birthday to you ♪ 247 00:17:37,256 --> 00:17:41,326 - Bring them home now! - Bring them home now! 248 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:43,829 (chanting continues) 249 00:17:43,862 --> 00:17:47,099 (grim music) 250 00:17:47,132 --> 00:17:54,106 ♪ 251 00:17:54,139 --> 00:17:56,709 (protestor 1) Mr. Secretary, you can bring them! 252 00:17:56,742 --> 00:18:01,013 (protestor 2) Guterres, we ask you to save our children! 253 00:18:01,046 --> 00:18:03,115 - May I? - Yes, you may. 254 00:18:03,148 --> 00:18:04,850 ♪ 255 00:18:04,883 --> 00:18:06,919 - How do you... - You just hold it, just... 256 00:18:06,952 --> 00:18:08,553 Well, first of all, I want to say 257 00:18:08,587 --> 00:18:13,993 that I have enormous respect for your pain. 258 00:18:14,026 --> 00:18:16,128 If I was prime minister... 259 00:18:16,161 --> 00:18:18,263 ♪ 260 00:18:18,297 --> 00:18:20,332 Namely, of Israel today, 261 00:18:20,365 --> 00:18:24,503 my main priority would be the release of hostages. 262 00:18:24,536 --> 00:18:27,572 (distant explosions) 263 00:18:27,606 --> 00:18:29,875 (news anchor) The skyline of Gaza shrouded in smoke 264 00:18:29,908 --> 00:18:32,778 as Israeli strikes pummel residential buildings... 265 00:18:32,812 --> 00:18:34,446 (explosion, shouting) 266 00:18:34,479 --> 00:18:36,248 mosques that the Israeli military said 267 00:18:36,281 --> 00:18:38,250 housed Hamas command centers, 268 00:18:38,283 --> 00:18:39,752 and tunnels long suspected 269 00:18:39,785 --> 00:18:42,855 to be smuggling routes for weapons. 270 00:18:42,888 --> 00:18:44,499 Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has vowed 271 00:18:44,523 --> 00:18:47,592 to destroy the ability of Hamas and Islamic Jihad 272 00:18:47,626 --> 00:18:50,095 to govern and carry out military attacks, 273 00:18:50,129 --> 00:18:53,098 an effort he warns will be long and difficult. 274 00:18:56,434 --> 00:18:58,737 (murmuring, faint birdsong) 275 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:04,309 (woman) A thousand kidnapped Palestinians! 276 00:19:04,343 --> 00:19:06,611 A thousand kidnapped Palestinians! 277 00:19:06,645 --> 00:19:07,980 (solemn music) 278 00:19:08,013 --> 00:19:10,916 There was a large gathering through Midtown, 279 00:19:10,949 --> 00:19:12,151 through the rain, 280 00:19:12,184 --> 00:19:13,328 New Yorkers taking to the streets. 281 00:19:13,352 --> 00:19:16,755 This was a unity march of sorts. 282 00:19:16,789 --> 00:19:20,225 It did feature pro-Israeli, pro-Palestinian supporters, 283 00:19:20,258 --> 00:19:23,929 a peaceful protest, but there were over 100 arrests, 284 00:19:23,962 --> 00:19:26,799 but things did remain peaceful. 285 00:19:26,832 --> 00:19:28,266 ♪ 286 00:19:28,300 --> 00:19:34,439 (protestor) Yesterday, 14 of my family members were killed 287 00:19:34,472 --> 00:19:36,241 in the church bombing! 288 00:19:36,274 --> 00:19:38,210 (crowd chanting) Stop bombing Gaza! 289 00:19:38,243 --> 00:19:40,478 Stop bombing Gaza! 290 00:19:40,512 --> 00:19:42,247 (chanting continues) 291 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:45,050 ♪ 292 00:19:45,084 --> 00:19:47,219 When I was putting up these posters, 293 00:19:47,252 --> 00:19:50,022 it would spark a lot of conversation. 294 00:19:50,055 --> 00:19:52,357 People cried to me and I cried to them 295 00:19:52,391 --> 00:19:54,426 on the middle of the street. 296 00:19:54,459 --> 00:19:58,997 And then, also, negative comments from people. 297 00:19:59,798 --> 00:20:01,166 This man came up to me 298 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:04,169 and told me that if I really cared about, 299 00:20:04,203 --> 00:20:05,738 you know, children, 300 00:20:05,771 --> 00:20:08,741 I would be putting up posters of Palestinian children. 301 00:20:08,774 --> 00:20:11,877 And then I said, "This is my cousin's daughter. 302 00:20:11,911 --> 00:20:15,981 She is captive in Gaza. She's a hostage." 303 00:20:16,014 --> 00:20:18,350 Um, and he told me 304 00:20:18,383 --> 00:20:22,587 that she looks like a white colonizer. 305 00:20:22,621 --> 00:20:28,560 ♪ 306 00:20:28,593 --> 00:20:31,363 (overlapping chatter) 307 00:20:31,396 --> 00:20:34,900 ♪ 308 00:20:34,934 --> 00:20:37,702 - Stupid assholes! - What? 309 00:20:39,204 --> 00:20:42,107 (Nina) Whole families and babies have been living 310 00:20:42,141 --> 00:20:44,643 in fetid tunnels underground, 311 00:20:44,676 --> 00:20:46,845 being malnourished, getting sick, 312 00:20:46,879 --> 00:20:48,613 living with untreated wounds. 313 00:20:48,647 --> 00:20:50,015 You know what their crime was? 314 00:20:50,048 --> 00:20:51,884 Being at home with their families. 315 00:20:51,917 --> 00:20:53,585 It's a war crime. 316 00:20:53,618 --> 00:20:56,755 If we don't protest war crimes, what on Earth do we protest? 317 00:20:56,789 --> 00:20:58,290 Answer me that. 318 00:20:58,323 --> 00:21:02,027 Answer me why 3,000 Palestinians have lost their lives. 319 00:21:02,060 --> 00:21:04,830 (Nina) The civilian deaths in Gaza are a tragedy... 320 00:21:04,863 --> 00:21:06,374 - They're innocent! - Are these the same... 321 00:21:06,398 --> 00:21:08,300 (Nina) No, no, no, hang on a second, stop! 322 00:21:08,333 --> 00:21:10,502 Not all... excuse me, ma'am... 323 00:21:10,535 --> 00:21:14,807 ♪ 324 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:18,610 The idea of putting up posters of kidnapped human beings 325 00:21:18,643 --> 00:21:21,646 to call attention to them as propaganda? 326 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:22,815 Fine. Sign me up. 327 00:21:22,848 --> 00:21:24,216 Sign me up. Absolutely. 328 00:21:24,249 --> 00:21:26,051 I'll join that propaganda campaign 329 00:21:26,084 --> 00:21:27,920 any day and twice on Sunday. 330 00:21:27,953 --> 00:21:29,554 They need to come home. 331 00:21:29,587 --> 00:21:31,890 (overlapping chatter) 332 00:21:31,924 --> 00:21:34,392 ♪ 333 00:21:34,426 --> 00:21:36,495 (Alana) At this point, I don't have a reaction. 334 00:21:36,528 --> 00:21:37,762 I just want to get them home. 335 00:21:37,796 --> 00:21:39,064 That's all I think about, 336 00:21:39,097 --> 00:21:41,133 all... all we want is for them to come back, 337 00:21:41,166 --> 00:21:43,235 and we want the world to come with us, 338 00:21:43,268 --> 00:21:45,871 to... to help us to bring them home. 339 00:21:45,904 --> 00:21:48,573 They are my sisters, I grew up with them. 340 00:21:48,606 --> 00:21:50,675 I went to Israel every summer of my life. 341 00:21:50,709 --> 00:21:52,911 Sharon and Danielle are my sisters. 342 00:21:52,945 --> 00:22:00,385 ♪ 343 00:22:00,418 --> 00:22:01,920 (Liam) I was putting the posters up 344 00:22:01,954 --> 00:22:04,256 in Washington Square Park, 345 00:22:04,289 --> 00:22:05,557 and as I'm walking there, 346 00:22:05,590 --> 00:22:07,326 I saw these two women walk past me 347 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:08,727 and kind of give me a face. 348 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:10,762 Hey, what are you doing? What are you doing? 349 00:22:10,795 --> 00:22:12,931 - I'm tearing this down. - You're taking down... 350 00:22:12,965 --> 00:22:14,466 - That's my cousin. - Girl... 351 00:22:14,499 --> 00:22:16,501 - That is my cousin. - Girl... 352 00:22:16,535 --> 00:22:17,903 (Liam) Do you want her to die? 353 00:22:17,936 --> 00:22:20,039 Do you care about her? Her life? 354 00:22:20,072 --> 00:22:22,975 She's in the hands of terrorists right now. 355 00:22:23,008 --> 00:22:26,711 Seeing it in... live, in real time, 356 00:22:26,745 --> 00:22:29,681 it's a feeling that I... I can't really describe, 357 00:22:29,714 --> 00:22:32,885 an anger that I've never even felt before in my life 358 00:22:32,918 --> 00:22:34,286 against another human being. 359 00:22:34,319 --> 00:22:36,721 ♪ 360 00:22:36,755 --> 00:22:39,258 (Julia) I remember the first time I had seen 361 00:22:39,291 --> 00:22:41,493 that posters had been ripped down. 362 00:22:41,526 --> 00:22:45,964 I'd walked down into the Union Square subway station, 363 00:22:45,998 --> 00:22:47,966 and both walls when you enter 364 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:51,736 were lined with all of the hostage posters, 365 00:22:51,770 --> 00:22:54,706 and the left wall was all torn down. 366 00:22:54,739 --> 00:22:57,910 Omer's poster had been ripped in half, 367 00:22:57,943 --> 00:23:00,545 like, right down the center, um, 368 00:23:00,579 --> 00:23:03,782 and I... I started digging through the papers 369 00:23:03,815 --> 00:23:06,018 to try and find the other half. 370 00:23:06,684 --> 00:23:09,221 These two women came up and started 371 00:23:09,254 --> 00:23:12,557 putting them all back up again. 372 00:23:12,591 --> 00:23:15,693 At the time, I genuinely thought it was just 373 00:23:15,727 --> 00:23:20,498 some crazy person, some bigoted person. 374 00:23:20,532 --> 00:23:22,767 I didn't realize it was 375 00:23:22,801 --> 00:23:25,770 the start of a much bigger thing. 376 00:23:25,804 --> 00:23:27,505 (woman) What are you doing? 377 00:23:27,539 --> 00:23:29,641 Why are you ripping it? 378 00:23:29,674 --> 00:23:33,312 - This is disgrace! Look! - You are disgusting! 379 00:23:33,345 --> 00:23:39,551 ♪ 380 00:23:39,584 --> 00:23:42,054 (indistinct) 381 00:23:42,087 --> 00:23:43,555 (man) I don't... I don't give a fuck. 382 00:23:43,588 --> 00:23:46,158 Get the fuck out of here. You're a scumbag. 383 00:23:46,558 --> 00:23:48,994 (man) Why are you taking those down? 384 00:23:49,027 --> 00:23:50,329 Uh... 385 00:23:50,362 --> 00:23:53,598 ♪ 386 00:23:53,632 --> 00:23:55,000 (she chuckles) 387 00:23:55,033 --> 00:23:57,235 (man) Why are you laughing? That's not funny. 388 00:23:57,269 --> 00:23:58,670 ♪ 389 00:23:58,703 --> 00:24:00,148 (woman) Why are you ripping them down? 390 00:24:00,172 --> 00:24:02,774 - Woo! - That's what I'm talking about! 391 00:24:02,807 --> 00:24:04,009 Yeah! 392 00:24:04,042 --> 00:24:06,278 (woman) Hey, why are you taking this down? 393 00:24:06,311 --> 00:24:07,545 Why are you doing that? 394 00:24:07,579 --> 00:24:09,881 ♪ 395 00:24:09,914 --> 00:24:12,717 (woman) Would you like to tell me your name? 396 00:24:12,750 --> 00:24:15,387 Would you like to share what you're doing? 397 00:24:15,420 --> 00:24:16,621 ♪ 398 00:24:16,655 --> 00:24:18,023 (spits) 399 00:24:18,756 --> 00:24:20,959 (man) Why are you ripping down posters? 400 00:24:20,993 --> 00:24:23,095 Karine, can I ask you, there's been on social media 401 00:24:23,128 --> 00:24:25,763 and frankly, on news broadcasts, 402 00:24:25,797 --> 00:24:28,433 uh, a lot of videos of individuals 403 00:24:28,467 --> 00:24:30,369 who have been tearing down signs, 404 00:24:30,402 --> 00:24:32,704 many of these taking place in New York City, 405 00:24:32,737 --> 00:24:37,109 of Israelis presently being held hostage in Gaza. 406 00:24:37,142 --> 00:24:39,844 There have been some tense, um, confrontations 407 00:24:39,878 --> 00:24:41,113 that have taken place there. 408 00:24:41,146 --> 00:24:42,481 Is the White House's view 409 00:24:42,514 --> 00:24:45,083 that these actions should be condemned, 410 00:24:45,117 --> 00:24:47,085 the pulling of... the pulling down of them, 411 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:50,088 or that that's a form of peaceful protest? 412 00:24:50,122 --> 00:24:52,790 (Karine) Look, I... I've sort of, kind of seen 413 00:24:52,824 --> 00:24:54,159 the reporting here and there. 414 00:24:54,193 --> 00:24:55,569 I think it was from last week, right? 415 00:24:55,593 --> 00:24:56,937 (journalist) There have been, like, 416 00:24:56,961 --> 00:24:58,473 30 million videos that have gone around... 417 00:24:58,497 --> 00:24:59,640 (Karine) No, I know; I hear you. I hear you. 418 00:24:59,664 --> 00:25:01,599 I'm just not going to... 419 00:25:01,633 --> 00:25:03,335 We're not going to... I'm not going... 420 00:25:03,368 --> 00:25:04,745 (journalist) Is that peaceful protest to pull that down, 421 00:25:04,769 --> 00:25:06,338 or should you not be doing it? 422 00:25:06,371 --> 00:25:08,573 (Karine) I'm just not going to go into, uh, specifics 423 00:25:08,606 --> 00:25:10,142 on that particular thing. 424 00:25:13,878 --> 00:25:17,149 (Rabbi Sarna) A colleague of mine at NYU, Jonathan Haidt, 425 00:25:17,182 --> 00:25:22,354 has been writing and speaking about the way 426 00:25:22,387 --> 00:25:25,157 an increased use in social media, 427 00:25:25,190 --> 00:25:27,226 particularly among the young, 428 00:25:27,259 --> 00:25:30,028 has reinforced a moral binary. 429 00:25:30,062 --> 00:25:34,433 When you go on social media, you either see the viewpoints 430 00:25:34,466 --> 00:25:37,302 that reinforce your own viewpoint, 431 00:25:37,335 --> 00:25:42,241 or you see the most absurd version of the other side. 432 00:25:42,274 --> 00:25:44,676 And there is no more gray. 433 00:25:44,709 --> 00:25:46,978 There's only a fine line that separates 434 00:25:47,011 --> 00:25:50,249 between the colonized and the colonizer, 435 00:25:50,282 --> 00:25:52,717 the oppressed and the oppressor. 436 00:25:52,751 --> 00:25:54,986 And within this worldview, 437 00:25:55,019 --> 00:25:59,491 any violence inflicted on the oppressed is a crime, 438 00:25:59,691 --> 00:26:03,027 and any violence inflicted against the oppressor 439 00:26:03,061 --> 00:26:05,297 is freedom fighting. 440 00:26:05,830 --> 00:26:07,499 Seeing these faces 441 00:26:07,532 --> 00:26:11,970 is the ultimate challenge to that binary view. 442 00:26:12,003 --> 00:26:14,005 (dark music) 443 00:26:14,038 --> 00:26:19,744 ♪ 444 00:26:19,778 --> 00:26:21,879 (Julia) It's very painful, 445 00:26:21,913 --> 00:26:24,116 and there's a lot of anger. 446 00:26:24,149 --> 00:26:28,653 But I... I wouldn't say I'm surprised. 447 00:26:28,686 --> 00:26:30,655 ♪ 448 00:26:30,688 --> 00:26:33,391 I think a lot of younger people, 449 00:26:33,425 --> 00:26:35,693 my generation in particular, 450 00:26:35,727 --> 00:26:38,830 you know, we grew up on social media, 451 00:26:38,863 --> 00:26:42,700 and I... I don't like blaming Instagram for everything. 452 00:26:42,734 --> 00:26:46,004 But, you know, I'm very... I'm guilty of this, too. 453 00:26:46,037 --> 00:26:47,939 If I don't like what someone's saying, 454 00:26:47,972 --> 00:26:49,308 I just unfollow them, 455 00:26:49,341 --> 00:26:50,884 and I don't have to see it anymore. 456 00:26:50,908 --> 00:26:53,554 (woman) ♪ Into the trash you go ♪ 457 00:26:53,578 --> 00:26:57,682 ♪ Ceasefire now and free Palestine ♪ 458 00:26:57,715 --> 00:27:00,552 (man) What is your reasoning? I want to hear it. 459 00:27:00,585 --> 00:27:02,297 My whole reasoning is that my people have been 460 00:27:02,321 --> 00:27:05,524 getting slaughtered in Palestine for years... years. 461 00:27:05,557 --> 00:27:07,859 I haven't seen a single poster about my people. 462 00:27:07,892 --> 00:27:09,328 I haven't seen a picture 463 00:27:09,361 --> 00:27:10,771 of my friend's grandmother who got slaughtered. 464 00:27:10,795 --> 00:27:12,173 I haven't seen a picture of his family 465 00:27:12,197 --> 00:27:13,565 that got kicked out of their house. 466 00:27:13,598 --> 00:27:15,367 I haven't seen shit for my people. 467 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,036 So, when I see shit for this, I don't... I don't feel for it. 468 00:27:18,069 --> 00:27:19,704 I don't fuck with it. 469 00:27:19,737 --> 00:27:22,049 How would you feel if people were posting shit about police 470 00:27:22,073 --> 00:27:23,308 when shit was happening? 471 00:27:23,342 --> 00:27:25,243 You know how that is, that's not fair. 472 00:27:25,277 --> 00:27:27,279 The Israeli military said today 473 00:27:27,312 --> 00:27:30,948 it struck over 450 militant targets 474 00:27:30,982 --> 00:27:32,450 in the past 24 hours. 475 00:27:32,484 --> 00:27:34,853 The Hamas-run Health Ministry says 476 00:27:34,886 --> 00:27:38,223 more than 8,000 Palestinians have been killed, 477 00:27:38,256 --> 00:27:40,625 and the humanitarian crisis continues. 478 00:27:40,659 --> 00:27:44,863 Al-Qassam Brigades has fired a large barrage of rockets 479 00:27:44,896 --> 00:27:46,531 from Gaza towards Tel Aviv, 480 00:27:46,565 --> 00:27:50,101 reportedly intercepted by the Iron Dome, 481 00:27:50,134 --> 00:27:51,870 and this is being described 482 00:27:51,903 --> 00:27:53,914 as one of the largest barrage of rockets on Tel Aviv 483 00:27:53,938 --> 00:27:55,507 since October the 7th. 484 00:27:55,540 --> 00:27:58,343 The fact that those rockets are still being fired 485 00:27:58,377 --> 00:28:02,414 is showing that Hamas still is going strong, 486 00:28:02,447 --> 00:28:04,982 and they're trying, certainly, to send that message 487 00:28:05,016 --> 00:28:07,719 that nothing so far has been able 488 00:28:07,752 --> 00:28:09,888 to quash their capabilities. 489 00:28:09,921 --> 00:28:13,024 (reporter) Israel is expanding its battle against Hamas 490 00:28:13,057 --> 00:28:16,494 with tanks on the ground and more strikes from the sky. 491 00:28:16,528 --> 00:28:19,264 The death and destruction is widespread. 492 00:28:19,297 --> 00:28:20,699 Buildings in the Gaza Strip 493 00:28:20,732 --> 00:28:22,867 obliterated into nothing but rubble. 494 00:28:22,901 --> 00:28:26,137 Hospitals are flooded with Palestinian patients 495 00:28:26,170 --> 00:28:29,341 and forced to treat the injured outside. 496 00:28:29,374 --> 00:28:30,951 Do you think that genocide against Palestinians 497 00:28:30,975 --> 00:28:32,119 - is justified? - It's not genocide. 498 00:28:32,143 --> 00:28:33,345 Actually... 499 00:28:33,378 --> 00:28:34,788 (woman) They came into my people's country 500 00:28:34,812 --> 00:28:36,047 and they murdered us. 501 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:37,682 Have you heard about colonization? 502 00:28:37,716 --> 00:28:38,893 Have you heard of that? I don't think you have. 503 00:28:38,917 --> 00:28:40,818 Go colonize somewhere else! 504 00:28:41,753 --> 00:28:43,855 Fuck Israel! Fuck you! 505 00:28:45,189 --> 00:28:46,725 Fuck your propaganda! 506 00:28:46,758 --> 00:28:48,993 (tense music) 507 00:28:49,026 --> 00:28:50,638 (man) Why are you taking those signs down? 508 00:28:50,662 --> 00:28:52,063 Where are the Palestinians? 509 00:28:52,096 --> 00:28:53,398 (man) So put your own sign up! 510 00:28:53,432 --> 00:28:54,799 (man 2) Who took any Palestinians? 511 00:28:54,832 --> 00:28:56,635 (woman) Do not put signs over our posters! 512 00:28:56,668 --> 00:28:58,102 Your posters are propaganda! 513 00:28:58,136 --> 00:28:59,580 (woman) What do you mean, they're propaganda? 514 00:28:59,604 --> 00:29:00,848 They're using my life for propaganda. 515 00:29:00,872 --> 00:29:01,873 (woman) They are not. 516 00:29:01,906 --> 00:29:03,408 Let's put up... 517 00:29:03,442 --> 00:29:06,411 Let's put up the 3,000 kids that were killed in Gaza. 518 00:29:06,445 --> 00:29:07,879 (man) You... you can do it! 519 00:29:07,912 --> 00:29:09,390 (woman) Please stop ripping posters down. 520 00:29:09,414 --> 00:29:11,215 These are innocent civilians in Israel. 521 00:29:11,249 --> 00:29:12,884 Fuck you, fuck Israel. 522 00:29:12,917 --> 00:29:14,395 (man) Why did you put your mask on? You're embarrassed? 523 00:29:14,419 --> 00:29:16,053 You're ashamed of what you're doing? 524 00:29:16,087 --> 00:29:18,198 (man 2) You're supporting genocide and ethnic cleansing. 525 00:29:18,222 --> 00:29:24,796 ♪ 526 00:29:24,829 --> 00:29:28,566 (Aaron) The Israeli-Palestinian conflict has always been 527 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,569 one of the most divisive political issues 528 00:29:31,603 --> 00:29:32,870 in the United States, 529 00:29:32,904 --> 00:29:35,407 on college campuses and elsewhere, 530 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,709 and so, it wasn't surprising to see 531 00:29:37,742 --> 00:29:40,244 both that people were putting up these posters, 532 00:29:40,278 --> 00:29:44,048 and that others had a visceral reaction to that, 533 00:29:44,081 --> 00:29:46,017 uh, and were tearing them down. 534 00:29:46,050 --> 00:29:47,686 The act of putting up a poster 535 00:29:47,719 --> 00:29:52,023 is an act of expressing a viewpoint. 536 00:29:52,056 --> 00:29:53,792 Now, when someone else comes along 537 00:29:53,825 --> 00:29:55,327 and rips that poster down, 538 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,662 that's really akin to a heckler's veto, right? 539 00:29:57,696 --> 00:30:02,867 It's people deciding what others are able to see 540 00:30:02,900 --> 00:30:06,705 and what speech and views they're able to listen to. 541 00:30:06,738 --> 00:30:09,207 (pensive music) 542 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:13,044 ♪ 543 00:30:13,077 --> 00:30:16,314 (Elisha) I think that the hostage posters 544 00:30:16,348 --> 00:30:18,316 have a real presence 545 00:30:18,350 --> 00:30:20,084 that not a lot of objects do, 546 00:30:20,117 --> 00:30:23,287 that only a photograph can have. 547 00:30:23,321 --> 00:30:24,756 ♪ 548 00:30:24,789 --> 00:30:29,361 You see photographs of people staring out at you, 549 00:30:29,394 --> 00:30:30,595 and they're there. 550 00:30:30,628 --> 00:30:34,833 ♪ 551 00:30:34,866 --> 00:30:40,137 I remember the first time I saw a ripped poster. 552 00:30:40,171 --> 00:30:42,407 Someone had really just 553 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:46,177 slashed the face of Qaid Farhan al-Qadi, 554 00:30:46,210 --> 00:30:49,080 the Bedouin guard of Kibbutz Magen. 555 00:30:49,113 --> 00:30:50,982 ♪ 556 00:30:51,015 --> 00:30:52,650 I couldn't look away, at that point. 557 00:30:52,684 --> 00:30:55,219 I decided to document it. I had an old camera. 558 00:30:55,253 --> 00:30:56,588 (shutter snaps) 559 00:30:56,621 --> 00:30:58,623 You'd see spray-painted hostage posters. 560 00:30:58,656 --> 00:31:01,025 You'd see feces, occasionally, 561 00:31:01,059 --> 00:31:03,628 and this really disturbed me... 562 00:31:03,661 --> 00:31:05,430 burned hostage posters. 563 00:31:05,463 --> 00:31:11,335 Every variety of someone's violence against the hostages. 564 00:31:11,369 --> 00:31:13,538 And it was... 565 00:31:13,572 --> 00:31:14,806 demoralizing. 566 00:31:14,839 --> 00:31:15,940 ♪ 567 00:31:15,973 --> 00:31:17,609 There's a certain kedushah, 568 00:31:17,642 --> 00:31:20,078 there's a certain holiness to the hostage posters. 569 00:31:20,111 --> 00:31:24,516 So, what if I collect all the remnants 570 00:31:24,549 --> 00:31:25,784 and keep them? 571 00:31:25,817 --> 00:31:28,052 ♪ 572 00:31:28,086 --> 00:31:33,091 So, very quickly, I start developing a collection. 573 00:31:33,124 --> 00:31:36,694 ♪ 574 00:31:36,728 --> 00:31:38,830 I'd never considered 575 00:31:38,863 --> 00:31:43,635 how powerful an image on the street could be. 576 00:31:43,668 --> 00:31:46,137 Not before the hostage posters. 577 00:31:46,170 --> 00:31:48,573 ♪ 578 00:31:48,607 --> 00:31:50,675 We just want to be seen. 579 00:31:50,708 --> 00:31:53,210 I can find something very intellectual to say about it, 580 00:31:53,244 --> 00:31:56,848 but I'd really just rather say that we want to be seen. 581 00:31:56,881 --> 00:31:58,683 ♪ 582 00:31:58,716 --> 00:32:00,118 And they want to be seen. 583 00:32:25,209 --> 00:32:28,847 Why would you rip down posters of hostages? 584 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:33,250 Because it is perpetuating a completely false narrative 585 00:32:33,284 --> 00:32:35,119 that the Israelis are the victims, 586 00:32:35,153 --> 00:32:38,222 of which I do not promote, uh, any violence 587 00:32:38,255 --> 00:32:39,858 towards any innocent human being, 588 00:32:39,891 --> 00:32:41,759 regardless of their background or beliefs. 589 00:32:41,793 --> 00:32:44,228 And those people that have their pictures on those posters, 590 00:32:44,261 --> 00:32:45,597 I do not know them, 591 00:32:45,630 --> 00:32:46,941 and I do not wish anybody who is innocent 592 00:32:46,965 --> 00:32:48,199 any type of harm. 593 00:32:48,232 --> 00:32:50,101 It is more of a symbolic gesture, 594 00:32:50,134 --> 00:32:52,036 because it is pathetic propaganda 595 00:32:52,069 --> 00:32:53,471 that they are putting into, 596 00:32:53,505 --> 00:32:57,208 uh, civilian areas that we are living in, 597 00:32:57,241 --> 00:32:59,343 and they're perpetuating this narrative 598 00:32:59,377 --> 00:33:00,979 to keep subconsciously... 599 00:33:01,012 --> 00:33:02,222 Why don't you answer my questions? 600 00:33:02,246 --> 00:33:03,748 Why you would rip down 601 00:33:03,781 --> 00:33:06,985 posters of people who've been taken hostage? 602 00:33:07,018 --> 00:33:09,521 All due respect to anybody who is suffering, 603 00:33:09,554 --> 00:33:11,956 uh, the loss of people that they love, 604 00:33:11,990 --> 00:33:13,892 which many people around the world 605 00:33:13,925 --> 00:33:16,861 are currently suffering from, but there's always a spotlight 606 00:33:16,895 --> 00:33:18,930 on a specific demographic of people, 607 00:33:18,963 --> 00:33:21,599 because, apparently, just like George Orwell would say, 608 00:33:21,633 --> 00:33:23,668 "Some people are more equal than others." 609 00:33:26,671 --> 00:33:28,372 (director) I reached out to several people 610 00:33:28,406 --> 00:33:29,541 who took down the posters... 611 00:33:29,574 --> 00:33:30,875 - Hm. - but they declined 612 00:33:30,909 --> 00:33:32,476 to be interviewed. 613 00:33:32,510 --> 00:33:34,812 I have prepared some answers based on their statements, 614 00:33:34,846 --> 00:33:37,615 so I would love for you to read some of them, 615 00:33:37,649 --> 00:33:39,884 and then respond, if you would like. 616 00:33:41,052 --> 00:33:43,187 "In our last conversation, 617 00:33:43,221 --> 00:33:45,623 I begged my grandfather to stay safe. 618 00:33:46,157 --> 00:33:50,494 The very next day, an Israeli bombing took his life. 619 00:33:50,528 --> 00:33:54,331 I loved him so deeply and my heart is bleeding. 620 00:33:54,365 --> 00:33:57,969 These posters that portray Israelis solely as victims 621 00:33:58,002 --> 00:33:59,437 are just about rallying more support 622 00:33:59,470 --> 00:34:00,838 for the Israeli government, 623 00:34:00,872 --> 00:34:03,808 not about advocating for their return. 624 00:34:04,442 --> 00:34:08,379 As if this whole thing started on October 7th. 625 00:34:08,412 --> 00:34:10,915 In Israel, these posters might pressure the government 626 00:34:10,949 --> 00:34:13,551 to make deals they wouldn't otherwise consider. 627 00:34:13,585 --> 00:34:16,354 But here in the U.S., our role is mostly about deciding 628 00:34:16,387 --> 00:34:19,223 whether to send more military aid to Israel. 629 00:34:19,256 --> 00:34:21,059 So, these posters aren't really about 630 00:34:21,092 --> 00:34:22,526 bringing the hostages back. 631 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,129 They're about pushing for more destruction." 632 00:34:25,162 --> 00:34:26,731 ♪ 633 00:34:26,764 --> 00:34:29,533 I actually think this is an interesting critique. 634 00:34:29,567 --> 00:34:30,902 You know, what is... 635 00:34:30,935 --> 00:34:33,605 what is the U.S. posture toward Israel, 636 00:34:33,638 --> 00:34:36,240 toward the Palestinians, 637 00:34:36,273 --> 00:34:38,676 toward military conflict in that part of the world? 638 00:34:38,710 --> 00:34:40,378 What is the solution? 639 00:34:40,411 --> 00:34:42,080 Are there solutions? 640 00:34:42,113 --> 00:34:46,117 I mean, this could be the basis of an actual conversation. 641 00:34:46,150 --> 00:34:48,319 But you can't have that conversation 642 00:34:48,352 --> 00:34:50,187 just by tearing down posters, or, frankly, 643 00:34:50,221 --> 00:34:52,289 just by putting up posters. 644 00:34:52,323 --> 00:34:54,291 (man) Excuse me, why are you taking those off? 645 00:34:54,325 --> 00:34:55,727 Why are you taking those off? 646 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:57,437 Because it's causing the conflict to be worse. 647 00:34:57,461 --> 00:34:58,930 (man) No, it's not. 648 00:34:58,963 --> 00:35:00,507 By you taking this off, you know what it does? 649 00:35:00,531 --> 00:35:02,566 It shows that Jewish victims are not okay. 650 00:35:02,601 --> 00:35:03,777 My friend is one of those people, 651 00:35:03,801 --> 00:35:05,503 and you're taking them off? 652 00:35:05,536 --> 00:35:06,981 And that's sad, but I don't see how that helps the conflict. 653 00:35:07,005 --> 00:35:08,640 (man 1) It's war propaganda. 654 00:35:08,673 --> 00:35:10,108 (man 2) Tell the world 655 00:35:10,141 --> 00:35:12,010 how you can't hold two thoughts in your head. 656 00:35:12,043 --> 00:35:13,387 You can only care about some people, 657 00:35:13,411 --> 00:35:14,646 but because they're Jews, 658 00:35:14,679 --> 00:35:16,180 they don't deserve your sympathy. 659 00:35:16,213 --> 00:35:17,658 I am not anti-Semite. I am pro children living. 660 00:35:17,682 --> 00:35:19,250 (man 2) You're not anti-Semite? 661 00:35:19,283 --> 00:35:21,495 It's propaganda, because you're not gonna find them here, 662 00:35:21,519 --> 00:35:23,021 so I don't know why you put 'em up. 663 00:35:23,054 --> 00:35:24,732 - Why are you doing that? - I don't want your cousin 664 00:35:24,756 --> 00:35:26,190 to get killed by IDF bombs. 665 00:35:26,223 --> 00:35:28,259 - Please call the police. - It's dishonest, man. 666 00:35:28,292 --> 00:35:31,162 It's dishonest that kids were kidnapped out of their beds? 667 00:35:31,195 --> 00:35:33,164 No, man, that's not what I'm saying. 668 00:35:33,197 --> 00:35:36,100 So, what is dishonest about the kidnapping poster? 669 00:35:36,134 --> 00:35:37,568 It was kidnapped, right? 670 00:35:37,601 --> 00:35:39,503 It's propaganda to justify the murder of... 671 00:35:39,537 --> 00:35:41,873 So, were kids not kidnapped out of their beds? 672 00:35:41,906 --> 00:35:42,807 Oh, please. 673 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:46,044 (soft music) 674 00:35:46,077 --> 00:35:48,046 (Chen) I grew up in Israel. 675 00:35:48,079 --> 00:35:52,183 I live in New York for the past 30 years. 676 00:35:52,216 --> 00:35:54,118 My kids grew up here. 677 00:35:54,152 --> 00:35:59,157 They have friends from all kinds of religions, colors, like... 678 00:35:59,190 --> 00:36:01,960 It's a diverse society, 679 00:36:01,993 --> 00:36:03,661 and I love it. 680 00:36:04,595 --> 00:36:06,998 Since October 7th, 681 00:36:07,031 --> 00:36:10,267 every morning, I will arrive to work 682 00:36:10,301 --> 00:36:13,705 and hang the poster outside. 683 00:36:13,738 --> 00:36:15,773 And every day, 684 00:36:15,807 --> 00:36:19,643 people would come and tear the poster. 685 00:36:19,677 --> 00:36:21,312 - (tearing noise) - Why are you doing this? 686 00:36:21,345 --> 00:36:25,483 (Chen) Please don't touch it. It's private property! 687 00:36:25,516 --> 00:36:27,719 It's private property! 688 00:36:27,752 --> 00:36:31,622 There were a lot of pro-Palestinian rallies 689 00:36:31,655 --> 00:36:33,992 right down the block from my store. 690 00:36:34,025 --> 00:36:37,361 (crowd chanting) Intifada, Intifada! 691 00:36:37,394 --> 00:36:40,999 - Long live the Intifada! - Long live the Intifada! 692 00:36:41,032 --> 00:36:45,436 They started to target my store every single day. 693 00:36:45,469 --> 00:36:49,807 Excuse me, private property. Can you please stop? 694 00:36:49,841 --> 00:36:51,575 What's your name? 695 00:36:51,609 --> 00:36:53,677 She's ripping off our sign. 696 00:36:53,711 --> 00:36:56,147 I'm sorry, it's private property. 697 00:36:56,180 --> 00:36:58,516 - Okay. I don't give a shit. - Okay, you done? 698 00:36:58,549 --> 00:36:59,659 You should be ashamed of yourself! 699 00:36:59,683 --> 00:37:00,985 (Chen) Shame on you! 700 00:37:01,019 --> 00:37:03,054 I'm putting the posters every day, 701 00:37:03,087 --> 00:37:05,923 and I'm gonna keep putting them. 702 00:37:05,957 --> 00:37:09,093 I had to close earlier. 703 00:37:09,127 --> 00:37:11,328 Uh, we had to lock our door. 704 00:37:11,362 --> 00:37:15,099 It wasn't... it didn't feel a safe environment. 705 00:37:16,367 --> 00:37:17,735 The police suggested 706 00:37:17,769 --> 00:37:20,938 that maybe if I move it from the window, 707 00:37:20,972 --> 00:37:22,907 the Star of David, 708 00:37:22,940 --> 00:37:29,247 it won't cause so much, um, negative attraction 709 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:30,782 to our store. 710 00:37:30,815 --> 00:37:34,618 I refused, because I said, the day I have to remove 711 00:37:34,652 --> 00:37:37,655 the Star of David from my window, 712 00:37:37,688 --> 00:37:40,524 it's the day I move from this country. 713 00:37:40,558 --> 00:37:43,061 (somber music) 714 00:37:43,094 --> 00:37:48,866 And they started to send me, um, direct messages. 715 00:37:48,900 --> 00:37:53,470 ♪ 716 00:37:53,504 --> 00:37:57,608 I was very determined that they won't break me. 717 00:37:57,641 --> 00:37:59,043 (cell phone notification) 718 00:37:59,077 --> 00:38:01,612 ♪ 719 00:38:01,645 --> 00:38:05,316 I will keep putting it until they bring them back. 720 00:38:05,349 --> 00:38:06,951 The wall is back. 721 00:38:06,984 --> 00:38:10,188 And if anyone can come help us, 722 00:38:10,221 --> 00:38:13,925 we're planning to do also this pillar. 723 00:38:13,958 --> 00:38:19,763 One night, a huge crowd of pro-Palestinian rally, um, 724 00:38:19,797 --> 00:38:22,033 came from down the block. 725 00:38:22,066 --> 00:38:23,667 (shouting, chanting) 726 00:38:25,469 --> 00:38:27,238 (protestors) Ceasefire now! 727 00:38:27,271 --> 00:38:29,173 Ceasefire now! 728 00:38:31,375 --> 00:38:33,477 (man) Free, Free Palestine! 729 00:38:33,510 --> 00:38:35,847 (protestors) Free, Free Palestine! 730 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,416 (man) This is private property. 731 00:38:39,450 --> 00:38:40,918 (Chen) Stop touching! 732 00:38:40,952 --> 00:38:43,587 This is not how you talk to people! 733 00:38:43,621 --> 00:38:44,956 Not by violence! 734 00:38:44,989 --> 00:38:46,891 (protestors) Free, Free Palestine! 735 00:38:46,924 --> 00:38:48,860 (man) Free, Free Palestine! 736 00:38:50,427 --> 00:38:52,596 (Chen) They tried to break the door, 737 00:38:52,630 --> 00:38:54,265 like banging on the door, 738 00:38:54,298 --> 00:38:56,033 banging on our window. 739 00:38:56,067 --> 00:38:57,068 (banging) 740 00:38:57,101 --> 00:38:59,337 I ran to the back office, 741 00:38:59,370 --> 00:39:01,105 sat on the floor and hide there, 742 00:39:01,139 --> 00:39:03,607 and tried to call the police. 743 00:39:03,641 --> 00:39:05,343 (shouting) 744 00:39:07,378 --> 00:39:11,615 My co-worker yelled to me, "The police is outside." 745 00:39:11,649 --> 00:39:14,919 And I'm like, "What do you mean the police is outside?" 746 00:39:14,952 --> 00:39:17,488 (man) Shame! Shame! 747 00:39:17,521 --> 00:39:19,924 You're a disgrace to your grandparents! 748 00:39:19,957 --> 00:39:22,126 (shouting) 749 00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:26,130 (Chen) Is this how we're safe in New York? 750 00:39:26,164 --> 00:39:29,466 Is this how we're safe here? 751 00:39:29,500 --> 00:39:30,734 I was shocked. 752 00:39:30,768 --> 00:39:33,771 I felt there is no one to protect us. 753 00:39:33,804 --> 00:39:40,077 ♪ 754 00:39:40,111 --> 00:39:46,184 I decided for the safety of my employees and everyone 755 00:39:46,217 --> 00:39:50,788 to take a little break and stop putting the posters. 756 00:39:50,821 --> 00:39:54,992 I felt defeated and I felt broken. 757 00:39:55,026 --> 00:39:58,762 ♪ 758 00:39:58,796 --> 00:40:02,266 (man) Fuck... fuck all you Israeli motherfuckers. 759 00:40:03,567 --> 00:40:05,169 Motherfuckers. 760 00:40:05,203 --> 00:40:07,038 Get the fuck out of here. 761 00:40:07,071 --> 00:40:10,241 (man) I'm taking it off, bitch, you got a problem with it? 762 00:40:10,274 --> 00:40:12,243 (man) He already threatened me. 763 00:40:13,144 --> 00:40:16,013 Get the fuck out of here. I'll knock you the fuck out. 764 00:40:16,047 --> 00:40:18,349 Get the fuck out of here before I punch you... 765 00:40:18,749 --> 00:40:19,750 (woman) What the fuck? 766 00:40:19,783 --> 00:40:21,118 (woman) Yo! Ow! 767 00:40:21,152 --> 00:40:23,120 (woman) Hey! What... what are you doing? 768 00:40:23,154 --> 00:40:24,621 (woman) What the fuck? 769 00:40:24,655 --> 00:40:27,291 Why did you just come up to me and assault me? 770 00:40:27,325 --> 00:40:30,527 ♪ 771 00:40:30,561 --> 00:40:34,131 (Liam) My cousin Moran told us, like, 772 00:40:34,165 --> 00:40:36,867 "Please try to go back to your lives." 773 00:40:36,900 --> 00:40:38,602 ♪ 774 00:40:38,635 --> 00:40:41,839 Before I went to work that week, 775 00:40:41,872 --> 00:40:45,709 that video of my cousin Danielle came out... 776 00:40:45,743 --> 00:40:48,512 ♪ 777 00:40:48,545 --> 00:40:50,848 Which was... 778 00:40:50,881 --> 00:40:52,483 ♪ 779 00:40:52,516 --> 00:40:57,221 Painful to see her look like that 780 00:40:57,255 --> 00:41:01,425 and to see her in that situation. 781 00:41:35,559 --> 00:41:38,062 (Alana) I watched it over and over again, 782 00:41:38,095 --> 00:41:39,663 and I cried, 783 00:41:39,696 --> 00:41:42,099 and I said to myself, 784 00:41:42,500 --> 00:41:44,868 "Well, she's alive. 785 00:41:44,902 --> 00:41:47,505 At least there's that. It's proof of life." 786 00:41:47,538 --> 00:41:50,641 Um... And then I said, "Of course they picked her." 787 00:41:50,674 --> 00:41:52,543 Of course they chose my cousin. 788 00:41:52,576 --> 00:41:54,912 She's strong and she has a voice, 789 00:41:54,945 --> 00:41:58,416 so I wasn't totally surprised, 790 00:41:58,449 --> 00:42:01,319 but there was a sense of relief for sure. 791 00:42:03,087 --> 00:42:04,855 (Liam) We had a sign of life. 792 00:42:06,223 --> 00:42:08,159 It was so scary, though, 793 00:42:08,192 --> 00:42:13,730 and it was almost embarrassing that, like, 794 00:42:13,764 --> 00:42:16,233 the world was seeing my family 795 00:42:16,267 --> 00:42:22,906 in such a horrible, vulnerable situation, uh, 796 00:42:22,940 --> 00:42:25,309 at the mercy of terrorists. 797 00:42:25,343 --> 00:42:27,811 (soft music) 798 00:42:27,845 --> 00:42:29,080 ♪ 799 00:42:29,113 --> 00:42:30,914 So, I had posters that were, like, 800 00:42:30,948 --> 00:42:34,218 right outside my apartment, that I could see from my window. 801 00:42:34,251 --> 00:42:35,686 And usually they were torn down 802 00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:39,056 within, you know, 12 to 24 hours. 803 00:42:39,090 --> 00:42:44,328 So, I decided to go and get a little security camera 804 00:42:44,362 --> 00:42:47,264 to see who exactly was doing this every day. 805 00:42:47,298 --> 00:42:52,336 ♪ 806 00:42:52,370 --> 00:42:54,972 It was multiple people that were doing this, 807 00:42:55,005 --> 00:42:56,874 but one guy in particular, 808 00:42:56,907 --> 00:43:01,379 you could see in the footage that he had a knife on him. 809 00:43:01,412 --> 00:43:02,980 ♪ 810 00:43:03,013 --> 00:43:05,549 This wasn't, like, just someone that was walking by 811 00:43:05,583 --> 00:43:08,785 that decided in the moment to tear down these posters. 812 00:43:08,819 --> 00:43:12,289 This person left their home, or their job, or whatever, 813 00:43:12,323 --> 00:43:13,957 with the mission of tearing down posters 814 00:43:13,991 --> 00:43:15,692 of kidnapped Israelis. 815 00:43:15,726 --> 00:43:16,894 ♪ 816 00:43:16,927 --> 00:43:19,597 I put it on my social media, 817 00:43:19,630 --> 00:43:23,967 and immediately the video blows up, 818 00:43:24,001 --> 00:43:27,438 gets thousands of views. 819 00:43:27,471 --> 00:43:29,015 Then, there were people that were identifying 820 00:43:29,039 --> 00:43:31,041 the individual on the video, too. 821 00:43:31,074 --> 00:43:33,644 My intention wasn't to cancel these people 822 00:43:33,677 --> 00:43:34,878 or dox these people. 823 00:43:34,912 --> 00:43:36,547 It was just to show the world that... 824 00:43:36,580 --> 00:43:39,650 what's happening to people like me. 825 00:43:39,683 --> 00:43:42,853 (reporter) Dr. Ahmed ElKoussa, a South Florida dentist, 826 00:43:42,886 --> 00:43:45,289 seen here in Brickell taking down posters 827 00:43:45,322 --> 00:43:48,592 of Israelis kidnapped by Hamas. 828 00:43:48,626 --> 00:43:50,461 There was outrage over this video, 829 00:43:50,494 --> 00:43:52,696 and Dr. ElKoussa was swiftly fired 830 00:43:52,729 --> 00:43:54,932 from his job at CG Smile. 831 00:43:54,965 --> 00:43:57,701 - You fired him right away. - Right away, without hesitation. 832 00:43:57,734 --> 00:44:00,438 (reporter) Now, the dentist giving his side to the story. 833 00:44:00,471 --> 00:44:03,574 Unfortunately, my video of four seconds 834 00:44:03,607 --> 00:44:05,709 gotten taken way out of context, uh, 835 00:44:05,742 --> 00:44:08,946 as well as the way that my former employer 836 00:44:08,979 --> 00:44:10,448 had portrayed it. 837 00:44:10,481 --> 00:44:13,184 A woman was filmed at an upscale shopping center 838 00:44:13,217 --> 00:44:16,320 removing posters of Israeli children 839 00:44:16,353 --> 00:44:18,189 who have been taken hostage. 840 00:44:18,222 --> 00:44:23,327 She has been identified as a doctor named Zena Al-Adeeb, 841 00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:25,296 and she has now been fired. 842 00:44:25,329 --> 00:44:27,998 One of the NYU students was caught ripping down posters 843 00:44:28,031 --> 00:44:31,569 of Israeli hostages has been identified by her NYU peers 844 00:44:31,602 --> 00:44:33,136 as Hafiza Khalique. 845 00:44:33,170 --> 00:44:34,847 So, do you guys think the school should expel them? 846 00:44:34,871 --> 00:44:37,174 So, after I was filmed tearing down these posters 847 00:44:37,208 --> 00:44:38,875 outside of Tisch Hall, um, 848 00:44:38,909 --> 00:44:42,279 a student at NYU circulated the video on social media, um, 849 00:44:42,313 --> 00:44:44,615 and she was calling for us to be doxxed. 850 00:44:44,948 --> 00:44:47,884 Uh, shortly after, celebrities, public figures, 851 00:44:47,918 --> 00:44:50,854 and Zionist platforms with millions of followers 852 00:44:50,887 --> 00:44:53,390 were sharing our information publicly. 853 00:44:53,424 --> 00:44:56,660 Under the petition that was calling for me to be expelled, 854 00:44:56,694 --> 00:44:58,295 along with the other students, 855 00:44:58,329 --> 00:45:01,064 people said that they are pulling their donations if NYU 856 00:45:01,098 --> 00:45:03,467 does not take disciplinary measures against us. 857 00:45:03,501 --> 00:45:07,238 So, it's clear that, even NYU admits it, 858 00:45:07,271 --> 00:45:08,972 that relevant stakeholders 859 00:45:09,006 --> 00:45:12,276 and people with wealth and power 860 00:45:12,309 --> 00:45:15,012 are the reason why I was suspended. 861 00:45:15,045 --> 00:45:18,716 "It was Saturday night and I was at home watching TV 862 00:45:18,749 --> 00:45:21,485 when my phone started buzzing with messages. 863 00:45:21,519 --> 00:45:24,255 That's when I discovered that someone had filmed me 864 00:45:24,288 --> 00:45:27,157 when I was taking down a kidnapped poster, 865 00:45:27,190 --> 00:45:30,093 and that video made its way to an Instagram account 866 00:45:30,127 --> 00:45:33,063 that decided to name and shame me. 867 00:45:33,096 --> 00:45:36,267 I hoped the storm would pass, but by Monday morning, 868 00:45:36,300 --> 00:45:39,270 emails were flooding my organization's inbox 869 00:45:39,303 --> 00:45:43,307 demanding I be fired, calling me an anti-Semite. 870 00:45:43,340 --> 00:45:45,842 A few days later, I was fired. 871 00:45:45,876 --> 00:45:47,344 ♪ 872 00:45:47,378 --> 00:45:51,282 Even after I was fired, the direct messages kept coming. 873 00:45:51,315 --> 00:45:53,317 Dozens of emails with death threats 874 00:45:53,350 --> 00:45:55,419 and threats of sexual violence. 875 00:45:55,452 --> 00:45:57,421 All I did was take down a piece of paper 876 00:45:57,454 --> 00:46:01,792 that I believed hurt everyone and stood for nothing." 877 00:46:01,825 --> 00:46:02,859 ♪ 878 00:46:02,893 --> 00:46:05,228 This is a very disturbing story. 879 00:46:05,262 --> 00:46:10,233 Um, I do think taking down a poster, in and of itself, 880 00:46:10,267 --> 00:46:12,703 should not be a fireable offense. 881 00:46:12,736 --> 00:46:18,509 I think it... it reduces the space 882 00:46:18,542 --> 00:46:20,711 for people to express themselves. 883 00:46:20,744 --> 00:46:22,613 I do think there were instances 884 00:46:22,646 --> 00:46:25,449 where people should have been fired, 885 00:46:25,482 --> 00:46:30,421 people who expressed heinous, violent, hateful views. 886 00:46:30,454 --> 00:46:31,922 But in this instance, 887 00:46:31,955 --> 00:46:34,758 it seems to me that an injustice was committed 888 00:46:34,792 --> 00:46:36,627 against this person who had a right. 889 00:46:36,660 --> 00:46:38,295 I mean, I disagree with how this person 890 00:46:38,329 --> 00:46:41,432 chose to express his opposition, his or her opposition. 891 00:46:41,465 --> 00:46:44,000 And calling the hostage posters 892 00:46:44,034 --> 00:46:45,545 "hurting everyone and standing for nothing," 893 00:46:45,569 --> 00:46:51,508 to me, is kind of an obnoxious critique and, um... 894 00:46:51,542 --> 00:46:53,644 But people are entitled to be obnoxious. 895 00:46:53,677 --> 00:46:55,679 That's, you know, the privilege of being human. 896 00:46:55,713 --> 00:46:58,749 (man) Hey, look at that, taking all the stuff down. 897 00:46:58,782 --> 00:47:00,050 Nice to meet you! 898 00:47:00,083 --> 00:47:01,752 Now the whole world is gonna meet you. 899 00:47:01,785 --> 00:47:03,186 Hi, hello! 900 00:47:03,220 --> 00:47:04,798 - No, no, no, no, no. - Don't worry about it. 901 00:47:04,822 --> 00:47:06,624 (woman) Okay, you'll be all over the news. 902 00:47:06,657 --> 00:47:08,702 - Don't worry about it. - Going to be all over the news. 903 00:47:08,726 --> 00:47:11,161 What is your name? You're so proud of it. 904 00:47:11,194 --> 00:47:13,029 What is your name? What is your name? 905 00:47:13,063 --> 00:47:14,197 Show your face! 906 00:47:27,344 --> 00:47:30,147 (Aaron) When people disclose 907 00:47:30,180 --> 00:47:32,282 personal information about someone, 908 00:47:32,315 --> 00:47:33,984 when they disclose where they work 909 00:47:34,017 --> 00:47:36,219 in order to encourage others to get them fired 910 00:47:36,253 --> 00:47:37,554 for their speech, 911 00:47:37,588 --> 00:47:40,491 that creates an intimidating atmosphere 912 00:47:40,524 --> 00:47:43,293 where many people are gonna shy away 913 00:47:43,326 --> 00:47:44,795 from speaking publicly. 914 00:47:44,828 --> 00:47:48,064 This is really a continuation of the phenomenon 915 00:47:48,098 --> 00:47:51,835 that's commonly referred to as "cancel culture," you know, 916 00:47:51,869 --> 00:47:56,740 which reliably creates a climate of fear 917 00:47:56,774 --> 00:47:58,442 and self-censorship. 918 00:47:58,475 --> 00:48:03,246 When you know that the price of speaking out on these issues 919 00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:06,784 is as high as losing your livelihood, 920 00:48:06,817 --> 00:48:08,819 you may reasonably calculate 921 00:48:08,852 --> 00:48:10,921 that it's just not worth the cost. 922 00:48:10,954 --> 00:48:13,424 (man) Why do you take them out? 923 00:48:17,227 --> 00:48:18,796 (man) Why'd you tear that flier down? 924 00:48:18,829 --> 00:48:21,164 (woman) Oh, I was just looking at it closer. 925 00:48:21,198 --> 00:48:22,566 (man) Mm-hm. 926 00:48:25,035 --> 00:48:30,708 ♪ 927 00:48:30,741 --> 00:48:33,009 (reporter) The death toll in Gaza continues to rise. 928 00:48:33,043 --> 00:48:37,047 The U.S. is urging Israel to reduce civilian casualties. 929 00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:39,382 All of this following a breakdown in talks 930 00:48:39,416 --> 00:48:41,184 to release war hostages. 931 00:48:43,454 --> 00:48:45,622 (reporter) The Hamas-run Ministry of Health 932 00:48:45,656 --> 00:48:48,058 says the death toll inside Gaza 933 00:48:48,091 --> 00:48:51,528 now surpasses 15,000 Palestinians. 934 00:48:51,562 --> 00:48:54,231 People were... are calling for a ceasefire. 935 00:48:54,264 --> 00:48:56,166 Netanyahu has said that the ceasefire 936 00:48:56,199 --> 00:49:00,237 will not happen until all of the hostages are released. 937 00:49:00,270 --> 00:49:02,339 At the same time, Hamas has implied 938 00:49:02,372 --> 00:49:05,141 that the hostages will not be released 939 00:49:05,175 --> 00:49:07,110 until there is a ceasefire. 940 00:49:07,143 --> 00:49:09,680 So, already we can see that these groups, 941 00:49:09,713 --> 00:49:11,715 these parties are at loggerheads. 942 00:49:11,749 --> 00:49:14,084 (protestors) Free, Free, Free Palestine! 943 00:49:14,117 --> 00:49:16,286 (reporter) Organizers of this rally called for people 944 00:49:16,319 --> 00:49:17,788 to flood Brooklyn for Gaza, 945 00:49:17,821 --> 00:49:19,757 and that's exactly what they did. 946 00:49:19,790 --> 00:49:22,058 The massive group marched to the Barclays Center, 947 00:49:22,092 --> 00:49:23,494 then the Brooklyn Bridge, 948 00:49:23,527 --> 00:49:24,962 temporarily closing it to traffic 949 00:49:24,995 --> 00:49:26,764 to march across to Manhattan. 950 00:49:26,797 --> 00:49:30,367 We're gathered here today to condemn the ongoing genocide 951 00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:31,802 of the Palestinian people 952 00:49:31,835 --> 00:49:34,772 perpetrated by the Israeli government 953 00:49:34,805 --> 00:49:37,340 and funded with U.S. taxpayer dollars. 954 00:49:37,374 --> 00:49:38,709 And we will continue to protest, 955 00:49:38,742 --> 00:49:40,353 not just until the siege and blockade ends, 956 00:49:40,377 --> 00:49:43,146 not just until U.S. military funding to Israel ends, 957 00:49:43,179 --> 00:49:45,115 but until Palestine is free. 958 00:49:45,148 --> 00:49:48,084 Somebody that we love grew up in the West Bank, in Palestine. 959 00:49:48,118 --> 00:49:50,587 Um, what's happening to them is not fair. 960 00:49:50,621 --> 00:49:52,422 It just shows how corrupt our government is 961 00:49:52,455 --> 00:49:54,858 and what they're doing to these poor, innocent people 962 00:49:54,892 --> 00:49:57,294 who have never done anything to anybody. 963 00:49:57,327 --> 00:49:58,996 I'm all in favor of peace, 964 00:49:59,029 --> 00:50:02,098 but you got to add "free the fucking hostages." 965 00:50:02,132 --> 00:50:04,001 (protestors) Palestine will be free! 966 00:50:04,034 --> 00:50:05,803 (woman) Free, Free Palestine! 967 00:50:05,836 --> 00:50:07,871 (protestors) Free, Free Palestine! 968 00:50:07,905 --> 00:50:09,540 (cheering) 969 00:50:09,573 --> 00:50:13,209 - We don't want no two states! - We don't want no two states! 970 00:50:13,243 --> 00:50:17,648 - We want all of it! - We want all of it! 971 00:50:17,681 --> 00:50:19,182 I think pressure works, 972 00:50:19,215 --> 00:50:22,252 and you should keep pushing until the dam breaks 973 00:50:22,285 --> 00:50:23,720 and never stop. 974 00:50:23,754 --> 00:50:25,923 This is not enough, okay? Only... 975 00:50:25,956 --> 00:50:28,826 And... and once the ceasefire comes, 976 00:50:28,859 --> 00:50:30,493 an end to the occupation. 977 00:50:30,527 --> 00:50:33,263 I don't feel angered 978 00:50:33,296 --> 00:50:35,699 by anyone sharing and expressing 979 00:50:35,732 --> 00:50:38,735 their solidarity with the Palestinian people, 980 00:50:38,769 --> 00:50:40,771 with the people of Gaza, at all. 981 00:50:40,804 --> 00:50:44,541 Um, I just wish there was... 982 00:50:44,575 --> 00:50:47,544 they had more space for us as well. 983 00:50:47,578 --> 00:50:48,879 They dismissed us. 984 00:50:48,912 --> 00:50:50,280 They dismissed us 985 00:50:50,313 --> 00:50:52,716 for a cause they feel more passionately about, 986 00:50:52,749 --> 00:50:54,417 they feel is more worthy, 987 00:50:54,451 --> 00:50:56,453 instead of being able to hold space 988 00:50:56,486 --> 00:50:57,621 for both people's grief. 989 00:50:58,188 --> 00:51:01,959 (woman) Wow, you really don't care about hostages 990 00:51:01,992 --> 00:51:04,427 and kidnapped people. 991 00:51:04,461 --> 00:51:05,829 Neither do you. 992 00:51:05,863 --> 00:51:08,098 - (woman) Of course I do. - No. 993 00:51:08,131 --> 00:51:11,068 (woman) Ugh, you have no idea how heartbreaking it is. 994 00:51:11,101 --> 00:51:13,837 - Like Gaza? Or just Israel? - All of it. 995 00:51:13,871 --> 00:51:16,607 Wow, this is like my first "Karen" encounter. 996 00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:20,043 Oh my God, guys, this is kind of, like, exciting. 997 00:51:20,077 --> 00:51:21,378 (Julia) On October 6th, 998 00:51:21,411 --> 00:51:24,781 I really loved where I was in life, 999 00:51:24,815 --> 00:51:26,516 and I had a lot of friends. 1000 00:51:26,549 --> 00:51:28,785 I like to consider myself friends 1001 00:51:28,819 --> 00:51:30,487 with a lot of people at school. 1002 00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:32,155 And then October 7th hit, 1003 00:51:32,188 --> 00:51:36,493 and so many people that I came into contact with every day 1004 00:51:36,526 --> 00:51:39,262 who I thought I mattered to 1005 00:51:39,295 --> 00:51:42,399 and who I thought cared about me... 1006 00:51:43,466 --> 00:51:44,835 didn't actually. 1007 00:51:44,868 --> 00:51:49,039 A lot of the fighting was going on online, 1008 00:51:49,072 --> 00:51:52,409 and then you'd have to show up to class with these people 1009 00:51:52,442 --> 00:51:55,278 who had just said some really horrible things to you, 1010 00:51:55,311 --> 00:52:00,918 or who had just posted really ignorant or bigoted things, 1011 00:52:00,951 --> 00:52:02,886 and you just had to sit next to them 1012 00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:05,188 and talk about your homework assignment. 1013 00:52:05,221 --> 00:52:06,857 (cell phone ringing) 1014 00:52:06,890 --> 00:52:11,061 (Alana) I very quickly saw some friends turn away from me, 1015 00:52:11,094 --> 00:52:12,429 and when I say that, 1016 00:52:12,462 --> 00:52:14,364 I mean a lot of it on social media. 1017 00:52:14,397 --> 00:52:18,234 Unable to share anything about my family. 1018 00:52:18,268 --> 00:52:21,972 I heard from Palestinian friends who checked in on me. 1019 00:52:22,005 --> 00:52:27,010 I don't know why other people couldn't reach out. 1020 00:52:27,044 --> 00:52:28,145 It was silent. 1021 00:52:28,178 --> 00:52:30,413 There is a silence, um, 1022 00:52:30,447 --> 00:52:33,583 that... was heartbreaking. 1023 00:52:33,616 --> 00:52:35,152 (somber music) 1024 00:52:35,185 --> 00:52:36,619 (protestors) Bring them home! 1025 00:52:36,653 --> 00:52:38,488 Bring them home! 1026 00:52:38,521 --> 00:52:39,790 Bring them home! 1027 00:52:39,823 --> 00:52:42,292 (cheering) 1028 00:52:43,694 --> 00:52:45,295 My name is Alana Zeitchik, 1029 00:52:45,328 --> 00:52:49,365 and I'm here to tell you about love. 1030 00:52:49,399 --> 00:52:51,702 I love my family. 1031 00:52:51,735 --> 00:52:53,203 And I promised 1032 00:52:53,236 --> 00:52:56,573 I would scream to the ends of the earth for them. 1033 00:52:56,606 --> 00:52:58,976 For too many in the West, 1034 00:52:59,009 --> 00:53:02,245 the suffering of hostage families like mine 1035 00:53:02,278 --> 00:53:04,147 has become a footnote, 1036 00:53:04,181 --> 00:53:06,216 collateral damage in service 1037 00:53:06,249 --> 00:53:09,619 of some perceived higher universal truth. 1038 00:53:09,652 --> 00:53:11,221 For too many, 1039 00:53:11,254 --> 00:53:14,224 it feels like to care about one family, 1040 00:53:14,257 --> 00:53:16,093 to love one child, 1041 00:53:16,126 --> 00:53:19,896 is to diminish the suffering of another. 1042 00:53:19,930 --> 00:53:22,165 But the simple human truth 1043 00:53:22,199 --> 00:53:24,634 is that you don't have to choose. 1044 00:53:24,667 --> 00:53:28,772 You can abhor the suffering of Palestinian families 1045 00:53:28,805 --> 00:53:32,275 and the suffering of Israeli families like mine. 1046 00:53:32,308 --> 00:53:34,244 (cheering, applause) 1047 00:53:36,046 --> 00:53:38,414 Do you think that in this space that we're in right now, 1048 00:53:38,448 --> 00:53:43,120 there's room to have empathy for the Israelis 1049 00:53:43,153 --> 00:53:44,788 who lost their lives? 1050 00:53:44,821 --> 00:53:47,357 If you turn on any mainstream channel, 1051 00:53:47,390 --> 00:53:49,425 you'll see the stories of Israelis 1052 00:53:49,459 --> 00:53:51,394 on every screen you look to. 1053 00:53:51,427 --> 00:53:52,695 And so I think, for me, 1054 00:53:52,729 --> 00:53:54,097 I will continue to use my platform 1055 00:53:54,131 --> 00:53:55,866 to uplift the voices of Palestinians 1056 00:53:55,899 --> 00:53:57,467 and the struggles they're going through. 1057 00:53:57,500 --> 00:53:59,202 And they are asking us and begging us 1058 00:53:59,236 --> 00:54:00,637 to share their stories, 1059 00:54:00,670 --> 00:54:02,438 and that's what I will continue to do. 1060 00:54:02,472 --> 00:54:04,617 (Linsey Davis) Do you have empathy for the Israeli victims? 1061 00:54:04,641 --> 00:54:08,078 I think whether or not my empathy goes to Israelis 1062 00:54:08,111 --> 00:54:11,381 or to Palestinians is really not the question here. 1063 00:54:11,414 --> 00:54:12,749 What the question is, 1064 00:54:12,783 --> 00:54:14,551 is will we call for an end to this genocide 1065 00:54:14,584 --> 00:54:16,086 and will we call for a ceasefire? 1066 00:54:16,119 --> 00:54:18,321 (soft music) 1067 00:54:18,354 --> 00:54:25,628 ♪ 1068 00:54:25,662 --> 00:54:27,397 This is a Jewish community. We know. 1069 00:54:27,430 --> 00:54:29,175 (woman) So what's wrong with putting up kidnapped posters? 1070 00:54:29,199 --> 00:54:30,700 So, why do you come to people's homes 1071 00:54:30,733 --> 00:54:32,135 and vandalize with signs of hate? 1072 00:54:32,169 --> 00:54:33,679 (woman) Why do you keep taking them down? 1073 00:54:33,703 --> 00:54:35,181 (woman) She's not putting it on their homes... 1074 00:54:35,205 --> 00:54:36,549 (man) My neighbors keep taking them down 1075 00:54:36,573 --> 00:54:38,441 because their wives are Palestinian, 1076 00:54:38,474 --> 00:54:40,143 and one of their wives are Arab, 1077 00:54:40,177 --> 00:54:41,878 and they don't want to see signs of hate. 1078 00:54:41,912 --> 00:54:44,547 (woman) And you know that they only also kidnapped Arabs? 1079 00:54:44,581 --> 00:54:46,783 Go to your own homes and put the fucking signs up. 1080 00:54:46,817 --> 00:54:48,460 - You're doing this out of spite! - We want to show 1081 00:54:48,484 --> 00:54:50,153 that bringing home the kidnapped people 1082 00:54:50,187 --> 00:54:52,155 - is important. - Whoever's taking them down, 1083 00:54:52,189 --> 00:54:53,699 - you want to see. - Or you're taking them down. 1084 00:54:53,723 --> 00:54:55,425 So you want to come to people's homes, 1085 00:54:55,458 --> 00:54:56,993 and keep putting up out of spite. 1086 00:54:57,027 --> 00:54:59,662 The people who posted these posters 1087 00:54:59,696 --> 00:55:01,664 skipped this entire neighborhood 1088 00:55:01,698 --> 00:55:05,602 and found the one Palestinian restaurant. 1089 00:55:05,635 --> 00:55:07,604 These posters are being used 1090 00:55:07,637 --> 00:55:11,174 to target Palestinians in our community. 1091 00:55:11,208 --> 00:55:13,576 The point of those posters, in and of itself, 1092 00:55:13,610 --> 00:55:15,145 is not to be, like, 1093 00:55:15,178 --> 00:55:17,413 "Look at all these children that are lost," okay? 1094 00:55:17,447 --> 00:55:19,216 The point of these posters, 1095 00:55:19,249 --> 00:55:20,951 the real point of these posters, 1096 00:55:20,984 --> 00:55:23,586 is so that someone goes and fucking tries to rip it off 1097 00:55:23,620 --> 00:55:25,222 so they can fucking film it, and go, 1098 00:55:25,255 --> 00:55:27,157 "Look, look at these scary Arabs, 1099 00:55:27,190 --> 00:55:30,927 they hate it, they have no interest in Israeli lives." 1100 00:55:30,961 --> 00:55:34,164 Okay? It is the next wave of, like, 1101 00:55:34,197 --> 00:55:37,800 don't think about 3,000 murdered children 1102 00:55:37,834 --> 00:55:40,603 with our tax dollars and our missiles, 1103 00:55:40,637 --> 00:55:44,241 and instead talk about how... how... how horrifying 1104 00:55:44,274 --> 00:55:46,109 what these guys are doing is. 1105 00:56:23,146 --> 00:56:31,146 ♪ 1106 00:56:31,788 --> 00:56:33,256 (Aaron) It may be in some cases 1107 00:56:33,290 --> 00:56:34,857 that people are putting up posters 1108 00:56:34,891 --> 00:56:38,161 with the intention of causing anger in others. 1109 00:56:38,195 --> 00:56:40,430 But that's all part of the debate, right? 1110 00:56:40,463 --> 00:56:43,766 I mean, that's... so that may be worthy of criticism. 1111 00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:47,337 People may say that, "Look, by doing this, 1112 00:56:47,370 --> 00:56:51,208 you're not helping bridge the divide 1113 00:56:51,241 --> 00:56:53,876 between the different sides of this conflict." 1114 00:56:53,910 --> 00:56:56,246 But the people doing it, at the same time, 1115 00:56:56,279 --> 00:56:57,680 may argue that, 1116 00:56:57,714 --> 00:57:01,351 "This is the way that I think is most effective 1117 00:57:01,384 --> 00:57:02,518 in expressing my views, 1118 00:57:02,552 --> 00:57:04,254 and I want to put these posters up 1119 00:57:04,287 --> 00:57:06,856 where people who disagree with me will see them." 1120 00:57:06,889 --> 00:57:08,801 Maybe they're not doing that in the most productive way, 1121 00:57:08,825 --> 00:57:11,728 but, again, that's all part of the debate 1122 00:57:11,761 --> 00:57:14,464 that is allowed to happen in this country 1123 00:57:14,497 --> 00:57:15,765 under the First Amendment. 1124 00:57:15,798 --> 00:57:17,567 (man) No, what are you doing? 1125 00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:19,469 Do you know where they are right now? 1126 00:57:19,502 --> 00:57:21,537 You have any idea where they are right now? 1127 00:57:22,439 --> 00:57:24,207 I'm not fucking Jewish. He's not Jewish. 1128 00:57:24,241 --> 00:57:26,776 I don't know if he is or not. It doesn't fucking matter. 1129 00:57:26,809 --> 00:57:29,112 This is fucking the U.S.A., it's New York City. 1130 00:57:29,145 --> 00:57:31,714 You don't have a fucking right to touch that shit. 1131 00:57:31,748 --> 00:57:32,983 It's a free country. 1132 00:57:33,016 --> 00:57:34,351 You can wave your Palestine flag 1133 00:57:34,384 --> 00:57:36,019 or say death to the Jews, or America, 1134 00:57:36,052 --> 00:57:38,092 or whatever you want, but we can put a fucking sign. 1135 00:57:38,121 --> 00:57:40,723 (distant siren wailing) 1136 00:57:40,757 --> 00:57:42,125 ♪ 1137 00:57:42,158 --> 00:57:44,527 (Nina) The posters helped to raise awareness 1138 00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:48,798 to activate people here, sure, but at the end of the day, 1139 00:57:48,831 --> 00:57:53,370 how that translates into lifesaving intervention, 1140 00:57:53,403 --> 00:57:55,505 I'm not sure we're making that leap 1141 00:57:55,538 --> 00:57:58,275 and that the postering is contributing 1142 00:57:58,308 --> 00:57:59,842 to making that leap. 1143 00:57:59,876 --> 00:58:02,845 That's a hard thing to conclude, 1144 00:58:02,879 --> 00:58:06,549 and I hadn't really thought about it that deeply 1145 00:58:06,582 --> 00:58:08,385 until you asked the question. 1146 00:58:08,418 --> 00:58:13,089 ♪ 1147 00:58:13,123 --> 00:58:15,658 I just got tired of playing Whac-A-Mole 1148 00:58:15,691 --> 00:58:18,328 with these sort of invisible enemies, as it were. 1149 00:58:18,361 --> 00:58:20,797 And I said, "I'm not doing it anymore," right? 1150 00:58:20,830 --> 00:58:22,365 The definition of insanity 1151 00:58:22,399 --> 00:58:24,434 is you do the same thing over and over again 1152 00:58:24,467 --> 00:58:27,703 and you expect to get a different result... 1153 00:58:27,737 --> 00:58:30,106 which is sort of, in some ways, 1154 00:58:30,140 --> 00:58:34,710 a metaphor for the whole, um, mess in the Middle East. 1155 00:58:34,744 --> 00:58:36,179 ♪ 1156 00:58:36,212 --> 00:58:38,714 (Elisha) We wouldn't be moved to put them up 1157 00:58:38,748 --> 00:58:40,383 if they didn't work. 1158 00:58:40,417 --> 00:58:44,120 It's really effective messaging. 1159 00:58:44,154 --> 00:58:45,088 ♪ 1160 00:58:45,121 --> 00:58:46,722 I did it for us. 1161 00:58:46,756 --> 00:58:49,159 I did it because I thought that there's something healing 1162 00:58:49,192 --> 00:58:50,827 about changing our environment. 1163 00:58:50,860 --> 00:58:52,529 There's something therapeutic about it, 1164 00:58:52,562 --> 00:58:55,465 there's something empowering about it. 1165 00:58:55,498 --> 00:58:56,899 But it's nice to know 1166 00:58:56,933 --> 00:58:58,533 that we're not just talking to ourselves. 1167 00:58:59,102 --> 00:59:02,072 No one would rip it down if they didn't care. 1168 00:59:02,105 --> 00:59:03,745 I don't think we can convince many people, 1169 00:59:03,773 --> 00:59:05,908 but they clearly have some sort of power 1170 00:59:05,942 --> 00:59:07,677 or we wouldn't be doing this, 1171 00:59:07,710 --> 00:59:09,612 and I wouldn't have spent this much time 1172 00:59:09,645 --> 00:59:13,083 doing what I'm doing because they're powerful. 1173 00:59:13,116 --> 00:59:14,284 Just hours from now, 1174 00:59:14,317 --> 00:59:15,985 we expect a pause in the fighting 1175 00:59:16,018 --> 00:59:17,720 between Israel and Hamas, 1176 00:59:17,753 --> 00:59:20,756 the first step toward an expected hostage release 1177 00:59:20,790 --> 00:59:22,525 on Friday. 1178 00:59:22,559 --> 00:59:25,295 We don't yet know the names of who will be in that group. 1179 00:59:25,328 --> 00:59:27,063 And it goes without saying, 1180 00:59:27,097 --> 00:59:30,133 it has been an agonizing wait for their loved ones. 1181 00:59:30,166 --> 00:59:32,102 ♪ 1182 00:59:32,135 --> 00:59:34,070 (Alana) My cousin Moran told me 1183 00:59:34,104 --> 00:59:36,939 that Danielle and Sharon were on the list. 1184 00:59:36,973 --> 00:59:38,341 It didn't feel real, 1185 00:59:38,375 --> 00:59:42,645 and I could not have any sense of relief 1186 00:59:42,678 --> 00:59:44,981 until I saw them home. 1187 00:59:45,014 --> 00:59:47,683 The Red Cross says they are in their custody. 1188 00:59:47,717 --> 00:59:49,685 The Israeli military confirmed 1189 00:59:49,719 --> 00:59:53,156 that they have been handed over by Hamas to the Red Cross 1190 00:59:53,189 --> 00:59:55,191 and are making their way to Israel. 1191 00:59:55,225 --> 00:59:57,059 ♪ 1192 00:59:57,093 --> 01:00:00,296 (Alana) The first time they showed clips on the news 1193 01:00:00,330 --> 01:00:03,333 of the Red Cross trucks coming through, 1194 01:00:03,366 --> 01:00:05,001 I ran up to the TV. 1195 01:00:05,701 --> 01:00:08,638 I could see a glimpse of Danielle's hair 1196 01:00:08,671 --> 01:00:09,672 from the side. 1197 01:00:09,705 --> 01:00:13,943 ♪ 1198 01:00:13,976 --> 01:00:16,346 (horn beeping) 1199 01:00:16,379 --> 01:00:17,680 And I just started crying. 1200 01:00:17,713 --> 01:00:19,782 I just saw her, I knew it was her, 1201 01:00:19,815 --> 01:00:21,551 and she was on her way home. 1202 01:00:21,584 --> 01:00:23,085 ♪ 1203 01:00:23,119 --> 01:00:24,921 And I will never forget the image 1204 01:00:24,954 --> 01:00:26,589 of Sharon and the twins. 1205 01:00:26,956 --> 01:00:32,529 Sharon, and another woman, wearing these pink outfits, 1206 01:00:32,562 --> 01:00:36,132 each of them holding one of the twins sleeping, 1207 01:00:36,166 --> 01:00:39,769 flanked by terrorists wearing black, 1208 01:00:39,802 --> 01:00:43,339 and, once again, you know, I... 1209 01:00:44,307 --> 01:00:45,808 had a sigh of relief. 1210 01:00:45,841 --> 01:00:49,379 Um, couldn't believe it. I couldn't believe my eyes. 1211 01:00:49,412 --> 01:00:52,449 I... it was a second miracle. 1212 01:00:52,482 --> 01:00:57,119 ♪ 1213 01:00:57,153 --> 01:00:58,888 Everyone in the world was watching it 1214 01:00:58,921 --> 01:01:00,256 as if it was, wow, 1215 01:01:00,290 --> 01:01:03,059 this amazing release of Israeli hostages. 1216 01:01:03,092 --> 01:01:06,696 And for me, it was seeing people I love, um, 1217 01:01:06,729 --> 01:01:07,763 return from hell. 1218 01:01:08,864 --> 01:01:10,866 (reporter) They'll be taken to a military airbase 1219 01:01:10,900 --> 01:01:13,536 in southern Israel, then on to an Israeli hospital 1220 01:01:13,570 --> 01:01:17,373 and ultimately reunited with their families. 1221 01:01:17,407 --> 01:01:19,017 (Liam) This is our first time seeing them. 1222 01:01:19,041 --> 01:01:23,379 It's an indescribable feeling of relief. 1223 01:01:23,413 --> 01:01:31,413 ♪ 1224 01:01:32,922 --> 01:01:34,390 Fighting resumes in Gaza 1225 01:01:34,424 --> 01:01:37,193 with no agreement to extend the seven-day ceasefire. 1226 01:01:37,227 --> 01:01:39,362 It's also important to understand 1227 01:01:39,395 --> 01:01:42,465 why the pause came to an end. 1228 01:01:42,499 --> 01:01:45,768 Uh, it came to an end because of Hamas. 1229 01:01:45,801 --> 01:01:50,373 We remain intensely focused on getting everyone home, 1230 01:01:50,406 --> 01:01:52,008 getting hostages back. 1231 01:01:52,041 --> 01:01:55,445 There are still about 120 hostages remaining in Gaza. 1232 01:01:55,478 --> 01:01:58,681 One of them is 22-year-old Omer Neutra. 1233 01:01:58,715 --> 01:02:00,016 (protestors) Bring him home! 1234 01:02:00,049 --> 01:02:01,384 Bring him home! 1235 01:02:01,417 --> 01:02:05,087 (Orna Neutra) Our son Omer, 1236 01:02:05,121 --> 01:02:07,323 he was born in New York City 1237 01:02:07,357 --> 01:02:09,692 one month after 9/11. 1238 01:02:10,226 --> 01:02:13,863 And here we are 23 years later, 1239 01:02:13,896 --> 01:02:19,168 and he's the victim of another vile terrorist attack. 1240 01:02:19,636 --> 01:02:23,973 Imagine waking up every morning 1241 01:02:24,574 --> 01:02:26,276 praying that he, too, 1242 01:02:26,309 --> 01:02:29,045 is still waking up every morning. 1243 01:02:29,078 --> 01:02:32,782 That he is strong and is surviving. 1244 01:02:32,815 --> 01:02:34,350 (cheering, applause) 1245 01:02:38,954 --> 01:02:41,291 I think the first few days 1246 01:02:41,324 --> 01:02:44,927 when I was thinking about Omer, I... 1247 01:02:46,462 --> 01:02:51,834 I really was hoping that he was dead. 1248 01:02:51,867 --> 01:02:56,172 Of course, I wanted him to come home, um, 1249 01:02:56,205 --> 01:02:59,409 but the thought of what he would have to live through 1250 01:02:59,442 --> 01:03:02,579 before he got to that point... 1251 01:03:02,612 --> 01:03:04,080 (distant horn blaring) 1252 01:03:04,113 --> 01:03:06,549 But I feel really horrible saying that. 1253 01:03:06,583 --> 01:03:08,351 (soft, tense music) 1254 01:03:08,384 --> 01:03:13,489 ♪ 1255 01:03:13,523 --> 01:03:15,625 It's also hard to say 1256 01:03:15,658 --> 01:03:17,660 if the person who's gonna come home 1257 01:03:17,694 --> 01:03:20,196 is the person that I remember. 1258 01:03:20,229 --> 01:03:21,798 ♪ 1259 01:03:21,831 --> 01:03:25,335 I hope he still has his light at the end of all this, 1260 01:03:25,368 --> 01:03:26,803 and his humor, 1261 01:03:26,836 --> 01:03:29,939 but there's really no way of telling. 1262 01:03:29,972 --> 01:03:32,742 ♪ 1263 01:03:32,775 --> 01:03:34,744 My cousins are coping in very different ways. 1264 01:03:34,777 --> 01:03:36,946 They also have different experiences. 1265 01:03:36,979 --> 01:03:39,482 Danielle has come home 1266 01:03:39,515 --> 01:03:41,951 with a sense of resolve and purpose. 1267 01:03:41,984 --> 01:03:44,120 She's become an amazing advocate 1268 01:03:44,153 --> 01:03:45,588 for all the hostages. 1269 01:04:02,472 --> 01:04:04,940 Prime Minister Netanyahu, 1270 01:04:04,974 --> 01:04:07,076 seal the deal now 1271 01:04:07,109 --> 01:04:10,813 and bring them all back now! 1272 01:04:10,847 --> 01:04:14,316 ♪ 1273 01:04:14,350 --> 01:04:19,121 Sharon, on the other hand, is in a total state of depression. 1274 01:04:19,155 --> 01:04:20,490 How could you not be? 1275 01:04:21,190 --> 01:04:23,092 Not only has she experienced 1276 01:04:23,125 --> 01:04:26,863 a traumatic, terrorizing kidnapping 1277 01:04:26,896 --> 01:04:31,467 filled with smoke and gunshots and blood and death. 1278 01:04:31,501 --> 01:04:33,235 ♪ 1279 01:04:33,269 --> 01:04:35,405 Now she has to wait for her husband, 1280 01:04:35,438 --> 01:04:37,740 and she knows what he's experiencing. 1281 01:04:37,774 --> 01:04:39,409 ♪ 1282 01:04:39,442 --> 01:04:42,178 The children ask about him all the time. 1283 01:04:42,211 --> 01:04:46,248 I was there, and they run around the house 1284 01:04:46,282 --> 01:04:49,652 singing a song they made up about their father, you know, 1285 01:04:49,686 --> 01:04:54,256 saying, "I want my dad, but he's still in Gaza." 1286 01:04:54,290 --> 01:04:55,491 That's not normal. 1287 01:04:55,525 --> 01:04:56,759 ♪ 1288 01:04:56,793 --> 01:04:58,227 (laughs) 1289 01:05:52,548 --> 01:05:55,551 I think Hamas is a vicious enemy, 1290 01:05:55,585 --> 01:05:58,454 and the hostages were the ultimate bargaining chip. 1291 01:05:58,955 --> 01:06:03,025 At the same time, what is devastating to me 1292 01:06:03,058 --> 01:06:06,462 is the ways in which Bibi and his government 1293 01:06:06,496 --> 01:06:11,066 have placed so little emphasis on the fate of the hostages. 1294 01:06:11,100 --> 01:06:13,736 They almost seem like a nuisance to him. 1295 01:06:13,770 --> 01:06:16,572 It feels like a hopeless place. But, you know, as Jews, 1296 01:06:16,606 --> 01:06:18,541 we're kind of cockeyed optimists, 1297 01:06:18,574 --> 01:06:21,110 and the last thing we do is give up all hope. 1298 01:06:21,143 --> 01:06:26,682 ♪ 1299 01:07:00,917 --> 01:07:04,720 Gaza's Health Ministry says more than 30,000 Palestinians 1300 01:07:04,754 --> 01:07:07,289 have been killed in Gaza since October 7th. 1301 01:07:07,323 --> 01:07:08,858 ♪ 1302 01:07:08,891 --> 01:07:10,736 (reporter) The IDF says it has killed or captured 1303 01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:13,763 more than 14,000 Hamas combatants... 1304 01:07:13,796 --> 01:07:15,364 (explosions) 1305 01:07:15,397 --> 01:07:18,334 but Hamas continues to recruit, to regroup... 1306 01:07:18,367 --> 01:07:20,302 ♪ 1307 01:07:20,336 --> 01:07:21,771 to regenerate. 1308 01:07:21,804 --> 01:07:23,105 (explosion) 1309 01:07:23,138 --> 01:07:25,007 Is this an unwinnable war, would you say? 1310 01:07:25,041 --> 01:07:28,010 This conflict will only end with a political solution. 1311 01:07:28,044 --> 01:07:29,979 It won't end with a military victory. 1312 01:07:30,012 --> 01:07:33,549 ♪ 1313 01:07:33,583 --> 01:07:37,353 (Julia) I just really hated seeing them, ripped. 1314 01:07:37,854 --> 01:07:41,557 I pretty much found one on every single lamp post, 1315 01:07:41,591 --> 01:07:42,959 every mailbox. 1316 01:07:42,992 --> 01:07:44,460 ♪ 1317 01:07:44,493 --> 01:07:46,428 I wanted to take something 1318 01:07:46,462 --> 01:07:51,400 that I knew was once beautiful and meaningful 1319 01:07:52,234 --> 01:07:56,615 and restore the beauty of our community. 1320 01:07:56,639 --> 01:08:01,878 ♪ 1321 01:08:01,911 --> 01:08:05,848 Yeah, I just ended up creating a bunch of these paintings. 1322 01:08:05,882 --> 01:08:08,117 ♪ 1323 01:08:08,150 --> 01:08:10,920 One of my professors was like, 1324 01:08:10,953 --> 01:08:13,489 "If Omer comes home and he were to see this, 1325 01:08:13,522 --> 01:08:14,957 what would he think of it? 1326 01:08:14,991 --> 01:08:17,026 ♪ 1327 01:08:17,059 --> 01:08:23,733 You need to make it more hopeful, less angry." 1328 01:08:23,766 --> 01:08:25,367 ♪ 1329 01:08:25,401 --> 01:08:29,672 Trying to make my experience palatable for them 1330 01:08:29,706 --> 01:08:34,043 felt like a total cop-out. 1331 01:08:34,076 --> 01:08:37,647 ♪ 1332 01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:41,350 There was... there was no hope. 1333 01:08:41,383 --> 01:08:44,954 There's... Nothing about the situation 1334 01:08:44,987 --> 01:08:48,224 would lead a normal person to be hopeful. 1335 01:08:54,496 --> 01:08:58,200 I think the posters did a really great job 1336 01:08:58,234 --> 01:09:03,940 of showing who people are and the world we live in 1337 01:09:03,973 --> 01:09:08,043 and who is really there for us. 1338 01:09:08,077 --> 01:09:11,847 I think these posters kind of threw a stone 1339 01:09:11,881 --> 01:09:15,317 and the ripples woke us up. 1340 01:09:15,350 --> 01:09:18,788 Resistance is justified when people are occupied! 1341 01:09:18,821 --> 01:09:22,324 Resistance is justified when people are occupied! 1342 01:09:23,392 --> 01:09:25,127 (Alana) I think the kidnapped posters 1343 01:09:25,161 --> 01:09:28,297 gave us something tangible and actionable. 1344 01:09:28,330 --> 01:09:30,466 It was able to provide a sense of belonging, 1345 01:09:30,499 --> 01:09:33,803 a sense of feeling like you're doing something. 1346 01:09:33,836 --> 01:09:35,337 And at the same time, 1347 01:09:35,370 --> 01:09:37,572 I think it illuminated something for us. 1348 01:09:37,606 --> 01:09:39,675 Through the tearing down of the posters, 1349 01:09:39,709 --> 01:09:43,612 we learned about this fracture in our society, 1350 01:09:43,645 --> 01:09:48,450 this gaping hole of, you know, moral, um, 1351 01:09:48,484 --> 01:09:52,321 moral compass that exists in our society. 1352 01:09:52,354 --> 01:09:55,390 So, shining a light on something that we need to fix 1353 01:09:55,424 --> 01:09:57,559 is inherently a good thing. 1354 01:09:57,592 --> 01:10:00,262 (shouting) 1355 01:10:01,563 --> 01:10:03,432 (Aaron) Part of the problem with cancel culture 1356 01:10:03,465 --> 01:10:05,534 is that it runs on this blinding 1357 01:10:05,567 --> 01:10:08,337 moral and intellectual certainty, uh, 1358 01:10:08,370 --> 01:10:12,742 where people increasingly view those on the other side, 1359 01:10:12,775 --> 01:10:16,178 not as people who have good faith disagreements, 1360 01:10:16,212 --> 01:10:19,081 but as bad people with evil motives. 1361 01:10:19,114 --> 01:10:21,550 And when you view someone that way, 1362 01:10:21,583 --> 01:10:25,687 then it becomes easier to justify shutting them up. 1363 01:10:25,722 --> 01:10:30,192 Censorship and cancellation don't change people's minds. 1364 01:10:30,226 --> 01:10:31,794 They're not persuasive. 1365 01:10:31,828 --> 01:10:35,164 And what they actually can do is just cause resentment. 1366 01:10:35,197 --> 01:10:38,534 There's a quote attributed to Sigmund Freud that goes, 1367 01:10:38,567 --> 01:10:41,804 "The first human to hurl an insult instead of a stone 1368 01:10:41,838 --> 01:10:43,372 was the founder of civilization." 1369 01:10:43,405 --> 01:10:45,741 (horn blaring, siren wailing) 1370 01:10:47,009 --> 01:10:48,677 (reporter) That escalating feud overseas, 1371 01:10:48,710 --> 01:10:51,413 prompting both passion and protests 1372 01:10:51,446 --> 01:10:52,782 right here in New York City. 1373 01:10:52,815 --> 01:10:54,550 Both countries, Israel and Palestine, 1374 01:10:54,583 --> 01:10:57,619 have a strong representation right here in New York City, 1375 01:10:57,652 --> 01:11:00,522 and those airstrikes can be felt right here at home. 1376 01:11:00,556 --> 01:11:02,859 (indistinct chatter, shouting) 1377 01:11:02,892 --> 01:11:04,894 (solemn music) 1378 01:11:04,927 --> 01:11:06,637 (man) You're not gonna get close to my friend. 1379 01:11:06,661 --> 01:11:07,963 (man) He attacked me! 1380 01:11:07,997 --> 01:11:10,099 - You know, I am pro-Palestinian. - Great! 1381 01:11:10,132 --> 01:11:11,868 - Then hold the fucking flag! - I am! I am! 1382 01:11:11,901 --> 01:11:13,668 - I want to do it freely. - Hold the flag! 1383 01:11:13,702 --> 01:11:16,338 - I want to do it freely. - They rape people! 1384 01:11:16,372 --> 01:11:18,107 They kidnap them! They murder them! 1385 01:11:18,140 --> 01:11:19,852 - What are you standing for? - You murder people! 1386 01:11:19,876 --> 01:11:22,078 - You're here, go to Gaza! - Yeah, I murder people. Yeah. 1387 01:11:22,111 --> 01:11:24,246 (man) A fucking white supremacist Klan rally! 1388 01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:27,817 White supremacist? Did you see the color of my skin? 1389 01:11:27,850 --> 01:11:29,819 You calling me white supremacist? 1390 01:11:29,852 --> 01:11:32,121 (man) Yeah, you Zionist fucking cunt! 1391 01:11:32,154 --> 01:11:36,358 Shut up, you Zionist, apartheid, genocidal cunt! 1392 01:11:36,392 --> 01:11:37,593 (woman) I'm a proud Zionist! 1393 01:11:37,626 --> 01:11:39,661 (indistinct) 1394 01:11:39,694 --> 01:11:43,665 You ugly piece of shit! Walk away, bitch. Walk away. 1395 01:11:43,698 --> 01:11:45,434 (man) Fucking losers. 1396 01:11:45,467 --> 01:11:48,938 I wish we lived in a world... 1397 01:11:48,971 --> 01:11:50,472 ♪ 1398 01:11:50,505 --> 01:11:52,774 Number one, where there wasn't a war to begin with, 1399 01:11:52,808 --> 01:11:55,377 and we all lived in peace and harmony. 1400 01:11:55,411 --> 01:11:57,746 That would be nice, that would be lovely. 1401 01:11:57,779 --> 01:11:59,081 ♪ 1402 01:11:59,115 --> 01:12:01,617 I wish, at very least... 1403 01:12:01,650 --> 01:12:02,818 ♪ 1404 01:12:02,852 --> 01:12:05,454 we could share the poles. 1405 01:12:06,155 --> 01:12:10,126 They'd put up their images of their children. 1406 01:12:10,159 --> 01:12:12,929 We'd put up images of ours. 1407 01:12:12,962 --> 01:12:17,499 And it would be sad, and tragic, and angry, 1408 01:12:17,532 --> 01:12:20,336 but we'd all share the public space. 1409 01:12:20,769 --> 01:12:22,114 I want to live in that world... 1410 01:12:22,138 --> 01:12:23,538 ♪ 1411 01:12:23,572 --> 01:12:25,707 Where we can share the poles. 1412 01:12:25,740 --> 01:12:27,776 (somber music) 1413 01:12:27,809 --> 01:12:35,809 ♪ 1414 01:12:37,887 --> 01:12:44,769 ♪ 1415 01:12:44,793 --> 01:12:52,793 ♪ 1416 01:12:54,870 --> 01:13:02,870 ♪ 1417 01:13:45,254 --> 01:13:48,257 (sad music) 101477

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