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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.BZ 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.BZ 3 00:00:10,386 --> 00:00:11,595 Alright. [grunts] 4 00:00:11,679 --> 00:00:13,097 You want a mic check or you got it? 5 00:00:13,180 --> 00:00:14,557 [clapper] Shaq interview, take one. 6 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:15,683 [director] Thank you. 7 00:00:16,225 --> 00:00:18,144 -Sure. -[director] And Jerry thanks you. 8 00:00:19,186 --> 00:00:20,896 Alright, we're gonna get started. Quiet, please. 9 00:00:20,980 --> 00:00:22,314 Quick slate. 10 00:00:22,732 --> 00:00:25,568 -Great. -[soft music playing] 11 00:00:28,237 --> 00:00:29,739 -[crew member 1] I'm now rolling. -[crew member 2] Do tech. 12 00:00:29,822 --> 00:00:31,782 [director] Let's lock up the noise, guys. 13 00:00:31,866 --> 00:00:33,576 -[board claps] -Okay. 14 00:00:33,659 --> 00:00:34,785 Um... 15 00:00:35,494 --> 00:00:36,787 [director] I thank you very much for your time. 16 00:00:36,871 --> 00:00:38,038 Thank you, I know it's a game night. 17 00:00:39,373 --> 00:00:40,916 Last question. 18 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:43,711 [soft music continues] 19 00:00:45,546 --> 00:00:49,383 Jerry West... made all my dreams come true. 20 00:00:49,467 --> 00:00:51,385 I would've loved to have played against Jerry 21 00:00:51,469 --> 00:00:53,179 'cause in some ways, I would've been playing 22 00:00:53,262 --> 00:00:54,513 against a mirror. 23 00:00:55,473 --> 00:00:57,057 But in other ways, you know, 24 00:00:57,141 --> 00:00:58,434 I'm pretty sure I could have learned 25 00:00:58,517 --> 00:01:00,895 and been a better basketball player because of it. 26 00:01:00,978 --> 00:01:03,731 He's one of the top ten basketball players 27 00:01:03,814 --> 00:01:05,149 ever to play the game. 28 00:01:05,900 --> 00:01:08,986 [Pat Riley] When people look at Jerry West's life, 29 00:01:09,069 --> 00:01:10,279 they would say something like, 30 00:01:10,362 --> 00:01:11,530 "What the hell's wrong with this guy? 31 00:01:11,614 --> 00:01:13,908 What's wrong with his life," you know? 32 00:01:13,991 --> 00:01:14,992 But they don't know. 33 00:01:15,075 --> 00:01:17,870 -[light music playing] -[pen scratching] 34 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:23,417 [Joe Lacob] I've never met anybody as competitive 35 00:01:23,501 --> 00:01:24,752 in every moment of his life. 36 00:01:26,045 --> 00:01:28,297 [Jerry West] I played for the fans. I did. 37 00:01:28,380 --> 00:01:29,673 [commentator] West throws it up... 38 00:01:29,757 --> 00:01:31,759 -[crowd cheering] -[commentator] He makes it! 39 00:01:31,842 --> 00:01:34,470 [Jerry] I didn't play for the franchise. I played for the fans. 40 00:01:34,553 --> 00:01:37,723 Losing all those years in the finals... 41 00:01:37,807 --> 00:01:39,517 [Michael Jordan] He was put to the test eight times, 42 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:41,060 he only won once, 43 00:01:41,143 --> 00:01:42,853 and that's not who he really is. 44 00:01:42,937 --> 00:01:45,104 [speaker] That would do something to you psychologically. 45 00:01:45,189 --> 00:01:48,275 Absolutely. It would do something, and it did. 46 00:01:48,359 --> 00:01:50,069 [Mitch Kupchak] That's the tormented part of him. 47 00:01:50,152 --> 00:01:52,863 For a second there, he could feel good and enjoy things 48 00:01:52,947 --> 00:01:54,323 and then all of a sudden, it'll flip 49 00:01:54,406 --> 00:01:56,033 and something dark will come in. 50 00:01:56,116 --> 00:01:58,786 [light music continues] 51 00:01:58,869 --> 00:02:00,204 [Ryan West] He's a perfectionist 52 00:02:01,330 --> 00:02:03,999 and I think he sees himself as a flawed individual. 53 00:02:05,209 --> 00:02:07,169 -[interviewer] Can he be happy? -No. 54 00:02:11,215 --> 00:02:13,467 [Michael Cooper] Been a lot of things out, a lot of things that have been said 55 00:02:13,551 --> 00:02:14,885 that are definitely wrong. 56 00:02:15,719 --> 00:02:19,139 I just want to tell my side of the truth about how I know Jerry West, 57 00:02:19,223 --> 00:02:22,476 probably one of the greatest NBA players that's ever played this game, 58 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,563 and definitely one of the greatest GMs in history. 59 00:02:25,646 --> 00:02:28,649 -[light music continues] -[pen scratching] 60 00:02:33,404 --> 00:02:34,655 [club cracks against ball] 61 00:02:34,738 --> 00:02:36,949 [Jerry] I learned so much from winning 62 00:02:37,031 --> 00:02:38,534 but more from losing. 63 00:02:40,202 --> 00:02:42,496 How you have to conduct yourself. 64 00:02:42,579 --> 00:02:44,123 You know, you don't blame the referees, 65 00:02:44,206 --> 00:02:46,458 you don't blame your teammates. 66 00:02:46,542 --> 00:02:48,460 You got your fannies kicked. 67 00:02:48,543 --> 00:02:50,129 It doesn't feel good. 68 00:02:50,212 --> 00:02:51,297 You want the same thing. 69 00:02:51,380 --> 00:02:55,091 You want to be recognized for all the hard work. 70 00:02:55,175 --> 00:02:57,136 [Gary Vitti] One of the things that Jerry taught me 71 00:02:57,219 --> 00:03:02,099 is that sports is not designed to win. 72 00:03:03,058 --> 00:03:05,144 It's actually designed to lose. 73 00:03:06,270 --> 00:03:10,524 There's only one team that can win the last game. 74 00:03:10,608 --> 00:03:13,235 Everybody else goes home a loser. 75 00:03:14,904 --> 00:03:16,864 [speaker] Jerry's one of the great athletes 76 00:03:16,947 --> 00:03:18,699 this country's ever produced. 77 00:03:18,782 --> 00:03:20,075 -Complex. -Logo. 78 00:03:20,159 --> 00:03:22,870 -Intense. Passionate. -I'd describe my father as a... 79 00:03:22,953 --> 00:03:24,954 -Loyal. -...very misunderstood person. 80 00:03:25,039 --> 00:03:26,707 It's goddamn hard being Jerry West. 81 00:03:26,790 --> 00:03:28,250 -Honest. -I don't know that I'd want 82 00:03:28,334 --> 00:03:29,543 -to be Jerry West -Giving. 83 00:03:29,627 --> 00:03:32,296 -An absolute icon in a logo. -Sincere. 84 00:03:32,379 --> 00:03:34,048 Winning didn't just drive him. 85 00:03:34,131 --> 00:03:35,841 -Obviously, he's a local. -Consumed him. 86 00:03:35,925 --> 00:03:37,343 -[O'Neal] It upsets me when... -Crazy. 87 00:03:37,426 --> 00:03:38,928 [O'Neal] ...they say Jerry West was crazy. 88 00:03:39,011 --> 00:03:40,596 -This guy's crazy. -[O'Neal] I never saw that. 89 00:03:40,679 --> 00:03:42,932 -He's a genius. -The most successful... 90 00:03:43,015 --> 00:03:46,143 -Just an American icon. -...single individual in NBA history. 91 00:03:46,226 --> 00:03:48,020 -The Logo. -He's The Logo. 92 00:03:48,103 --> 00:03:51,106 [soft music continues] 93 00:03:56,904 --> 00:03:58,155 [โ™ช Green Day playing "Boulevard of Broken Dreams"] 94 00:03:58,238 --> 00:03:59,781 โ™ช I walk a lonely road โ™ช 95 00:03:59,865 --> 00:04:03,452 โ™ช The only one that I have ever known... 96 00:04:03,535 --> 00:04:05,037 [Jerry] Why now? 97 00:04:05,913 --> 00:04:09,166 Well, I think sometimes all the things you kept private, 98 00:04:09,249 --> 00:04:11,585 maybe you should talk about a little bit 99 00:04:11,669 --> 00:04:13,712 to have a better understanding 100 00:04:13,796 --> 00:04:15,881 with the people who have supported us, 101 00:04:15,965 --> 00:04:19,885 but more importantly, your friends, particularly in the NBA, 102 00:04:19,969 --> 00:04:22,721 and my personal friends, which are not too many. 103 00:04:23,639 --> 00:04:28,769 โ™ช My shadow's the only one that walks beside me โ™ช 104 00:04:29,436 --> 00:04:32,523 โ™ช My shallow heart's the only thing... 105 00:04:32,606 --> 00:04:34,566 [Jerry] There's just things that I shake my head 106 00:04:34,650 --> 00:04:36,735 and I see, I hear people say, 107 00:04:36,819 --> 00:04:39,989 that is really difficult for me to understand. 108 00:04:40,864 --> 00:04:44,576 โ™ช 'Til then, I walk alone โ™ช 109 00:04:45,869 --> 00:04:48,372 โ™ช I walk this empty street โ™ช 110 00:04:48,455 --> 00:04:50,832 โ™ช on the Boulevard of Broken Dreams... โ™ชโ™ช 111 00:04:50,916 --> 00:04:52,167 Watch your fingers. 112 00:04:52,251 --> 00:04:53,335 -[crew member 1] Jerry. -[crew member 2 laughs] 113 00:04:53,419 --> 00:04:55,587 Jerry West interview, take one, common mark. 114 00:04:55,671 --> 00:04:56,839 [clapper clacks] 115 00:05:11,145 --> 00:05:13,647 [soft music playing] 116 00:05:18,277 --> 00:05:20,404 [pen scratching] 117 00:05:29,329 --> 00:05:32,332 [soft music continues] 118 00:05:48,474 --> 00:05:51,643 [soft music continues] 119 00:06:05,157 --> 00:06:06,533 [crowd cheering] 120 00:06:10,079 --> 00:06:13,082 [soft music continues] 121 00:06:28,305 --> 00:06:31,600 [soft music continues] 122 00:06:35,229 --> 00:06:38,607 [inaudible dialogue] 123 00:06:38,690 --> 00:06:41,235 [inaudible dialogue] 124 00:06:41,318 --> 00:06:45,322 [inaudible dialogue] 125 00:06:47,991 --> 00:06:50,994 [soft music continues] 126 00:06:53,330 --> 00:06:56,332 [pen scratching] 127 00:07:09,221 --> 00:07:12,141 [soft music continues] 128 00:07:28,949 --> 00:07:31,910 [light music playing] 129 00:07:31,994 --> 00:07:34,746 [birds chirping] 130 00:07:41,044 --> 00:07:43,088 [Jerry] This is the last house that I lived in. 131 00:07:44,131 --> 00:07:45,424 I was in high school. 132 00:07:45,507 --> 00:07:47,509 I think that one of the proudest things I did, 133 00:07:47,593 --> 00:07:50,095 I paid the mortgage off on this house 134 00:07:50,179 --> 00:07:51,930 for my mother and father. 135 00:07:52,014 --> 00:07:53,473 It was $12,000. 136 00:07:54,933 --> 00:07:57,019 We lived in that place there. 137 00:07:57,102 --> 00:07:58,854 And there was a tree here 138 00:07:58,937 --> 00:08:01,773 that I had a basketball hoop on, right here. 139 00:08:01,857 --> 00:08:02,858 Really nice to see you. 140 00:08:02,941 --> 00:08:03,984 -Yeah. -How you doing, young man? 141 00:08:04,067 --> 00:08:05,402 -Nice to see you. -My pleasure. 142 00:08:05,485 --> 00:08:07,863 My uncle was always said, talked about you. 143 00:08:07,946 --> 00:08:10,365 So I knew it was like... I never mentioned it was like... 144 00:08:10,449 --> 00:08:12,451 [laughs] Yeah. Well, I grew a lot, okay. 145 00:08:12,534 --> 00:08:13,785 -[laughs] -Can I... 146 00:08:13,869 --> 00:08:15,120 Can I have a picture? 147 00:08:15,204 --> 00:08:16,496 Yeah, sure. Why not? 148 00:08:16,580 --> 00:08:18,832 -Who's this for? -It's for my son Adam. 149 00:08:18,916 --> 00:08:21,960 They loved watching you play basketball 150 00:08:22,044 --> 00:08:24,171 and always wanted to be another Jerry West, 151 00:08:24,254 --> 00:08:27,216 which, there is never gonna be another Jerry West. 152 00:08:27,299 --> 00:08:29,259 I wish you guys well. Nice to talk to you. 153 00:08:29,343 --> 00:08:30,552 -Nice to speak. -Thank you. 154 00:08:33,054 --> 00:08:34,389 I wanted to play football 155 00:08:34,472 --> 00:08:36,683 when I was in junior high school, and I'll never forget. 156 00:08:36,767 --> 00:08:37,893 I couldn't play 157 00:08:37,976 --> 00:08:39,311 because they didn't have anything to fit me. 158 00:08:39,394 --> 00:08:40,854 I was so skinny and little. 159 00:08:40,938 --> 00:08:42,438 They gave me shoulder pads, 160 00:08:42,522 --> 00:08:45,025 gave me a helmet that was way too big. 161 00:08:45,108 --> 00:08:46,652 You know, I didn't have friends, 162 00:08:46,735 --> 00:08:49,905 so I gravitated to something that I could do by myself. 163 00:08:49,988 --> 00:08:53,367 And you know, you got to the point where all of a sudden 164 00:08:53,450 --> 00:08:55,953 you learn how to shoot the ball on your own. 165 00:08:56,954 --> 00:08:59,665 How can I become more effective as a shooter? 166 00:08:59,748 --> 00:09:02,876 Well, I can't tell you how many times I threw the ball up 167 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:04,294 -20 feet in the air. -[laughing] 168 00:09:04,378 --> 00:09:08,632 I have a scar here today where I scratched my face 169 00:09:08,715 --> 00:09:10,842 because I tried to keep it close to my face, 170 00:09:10,926 --> 00:09:15,264 and so a very steady head and try to keep my eyes straight 171 00:09:15,347 --> 00:09:18,976 and I would round my foot and turn my body so I could go up 172 00:09:19,059 --> 00:09:22,312 and make sure that my body came down like a cylinder. 173 00:09:22,396 --> 00:09:25,065 What would you say is the prettiest part of Jerry's game for you? 174 00:09:25,816 --> 00:09:26,858 His pull-up. 175 00:09:26,942 --> 00:09:28,485 His beautiful jump shot. 176 00:09:28,568 --> 00:09:31,780 Jerry had a textbook jump shot. 177 00:09:31,863 --> 00:09:32,948 His jumper. 178 00:09:33,031 --> 00:09:35,325 [laughs] It's sweet. 179 00:09:35,409 --> 00:09:37,369 Yeah, it was sweet and it went in a lot. 180 00:09:37,452 --> 00:09:39,579 When you got that shot down, 181 00:09:39,663 --> 00:09:41,290 did you know when it was going in? 182 00:09:41,373 --> 00:09:43,083 -Oh, gosh, yeah. -[Kenya laughs] 183 00:09:43,165 --> 00:09:44,501 [upbeat music playing] 184 00:09:44,584 --> 00:09:45,669 [commentator] And Jerry West... 185 00:09:46,503 --> 00:09:48,380 [commentator 2] West, setting the mood. 186 00:09:49,631 --> 00:09:51,133 It's up. 187 00:09:51,216 --> 00:09:53,302 Averaging 30 points in this playoff series, 188 00:09:53,385 --> 00:09:55,637 taking the jumper and hitting. 189 00:09:55,721 --> 00:09:58,098 [commentator 3] Jerry West, throwing about whatever he wants to. 190 00:09:58,181 --> 00:09:59,683 He's got 20 points. He's... 191 00:09:59,766 --> 00:10:01,893 [upbeat music playing] 192 00:10:04,271 --> 00:10:06,815 [commentator 4] West is the one the Lakers will go to 193 00:10:06,898 --> 00:10:09,443 to try and bring them back, and we can expect the Celtics 194 00:10:09,526 --> 00:10:11,028 to try and double team West 195 00:10:11,111 --> 00:10:12,779 try to keep him from getting the hot hand here. 196 00:10:13,488 --> 00:10:16,199 [Klay Thompson] Jerry's jump shot is a thing of beauty, and it's timeless, 197 00:10:16,283 --> 00:10:19,202 and players to this day still try to mimic it. 198 00:10:19,286 --> 00:10:22,664 It's just the template of what perfect fundamentals look like. 199 00:10:22,748 --> 00:10:24,958 He was one of the guys who was, like, trying to change the game. 200 00:10:25,042 --> 00:10:27,252 He was more advanced at what he was doing. 201 00:10:27,336 --> 00:10:28,587 He was also big as heck. 202 00:10:28,670 --> 00:10:31,340 The hesi cross or the hesi fatal A to get to your spot, 203 00:10:31,423 --> 00:10:33,175 shoot over you like nobody's there. 204 00:10:33,258 --> 00:10:34,843 But Jerry was, like, unstoppable. 205 00:10:34,926 --> 00:10:37,763 I mean, honestly, he really was that good. 206 00:10:37,846 --> 00:10:39,014 One thing a shooter knows 207 00:10:39,097 --> 00:10:42,100 is that there's certain principles that are non-negotiables 208 00:10:42,184 --> 00:10:44,353 in terms of shooting the ball at a high level. 209 00:10:44,436 --> 00:10:47,272 You know, when it comes to your balance, it comes to your confidence, 210 00:10:47,356 --> 00:10:49,858 it comes to your ability to repeat the same motion 211 00:10:49,941 --> 00:10:51,443 over and over and over again. 212 00:10:51,526 --> 00:10:54,196 And if you watch footage of him or you hear him talk about it, 213 00:10:54,279 --> 00:10:57,282 the level of obsession of how to shoot the basketball 214 00:10:57,366 --> 00:10:58,825 comes out pretty clear. 215 00:10:58,909 --> 00:11:00,160 That's what shooters do. 216 00:11:00,243 --> 00:11:02,746 He held every Laker assist record, 217 00:11:02,829 --> 00:11:04,998 until he let me break 'em. 218 00:11:05,082 --> 00:11:07,167 [both laughing] 219 00:11:11,171 --> 00:11:12,422 [Kenya] Is it West Virginia? 220 00:11:12,506 --> 00:11:14,257 Do you think this is the difference maker for you? 221 00:11:14,341 --> 00:11:16,468 The thing that made you who you are? 222 00:11:16,551 --> 00:11:18,387 I would say that's true. Yeah. 223 00:11:18,470 --> 00:11:20,555 I've been coming here, my goodness, for... 224 00:11:21,681 --> 00:11:23,392 67 years of my life. 225 00:11:23,475 --> 00:11:25,977 There's an allure to this place that, 226 00:11:26,061 --> 00:11:28,939 I don't know if some people miss it when they leave. 227 00:11:29,815 --> 00:11:31,233 I definitely have. 228 00:11:31,316 --> 00:11:35,195 But it was a pretty nondescript place to grow up. 229 00:11:38,490 --> 00:11:41,952 It wasn't the perfect place to raise a kid, okay? 230 00:11:42,035 --> 00:11:44,496 There was nothing special there. 231 00:11:45,163 --> 00:11:48,458 โ™ช Got tears in my eyes โ™ช 232 00:11:48,542 --> 00:11:52,796 โ™ช Tryin' to read a letter from my home โ™ช 233 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:57,259 โ™ช If this train runs me right โ™ช 234 00:11:57,342 --> 00:12:00,178 โ™ช I'll be home Saturday night โ™ช 235 00:12:00,262 --> 00:12:04,641 โ™ช I'm nine hundred miles from my home โ™ชโ™ช 236 00:12:05,350 --> 00:12:07,394 Living below the poverty line, 237 00:12:07,477 --> 00:12:09,896 had no money, no clothes. 238 00:12:09,980 --> 00:12:12,983 It was awful. I just felt so inferior to everyone. 239 00:12:14,276 --> 00:12:16,027 I wanted to quit school. I hated school. 240 00:12:16,111 --> 00:12:17,737 I didn't feel like I belonged there. 241 00:12:17,821 --> 00:12:19,448 I was socially inept. 242 00:12:20,574 --> 00:12:23,994 I grew up in a household of three boys and three girls. 243 00:12:24,077 --> 00:12:25,370 I was fifth in line. 244 00:12:26,329 --> 00:12:27,998 My father was difficult. 245 00:12:28,081 --> 00:12:30,876 You know, he would raise his voice a lot. 246 00:12:30,959 --> 00:12:34,546 My sister said this was the ice house we were living in. 247 00:12:35,464 --> 00:12:37,174 [somber music playing] 248 00:12:37,257 --> 00:12:41,511 But one of my brothers, David, I was very close to him. 249 00:12:42,179 --> 00:12:45,432 He was really respectful. Everyone loved him. 250 00:12:45,515 --> 00:12:49,603 Never saw him be anything but a great person. 251 00:12:49,686 --> 00:12:54,024 Someone that I felt truly cared about me. 252 00:12:55,650 --> 00:12:59,196 So, he was the one who played basketball in the family, 253 00:13:00,197 --> 00:13:02,824 and he was soon called 254 00:13:02,908 --> 00:13:06,786 to represent our country as a serviceman. 255 00:13:08,538 --> 00:13:11,833 I was excited that he was, you know, in the service. 256 00:13:11,917 --> 00:13:14,002 He'd grown up, and what was he gonna be? 257 00:13:14,085 --> 00:13:15,921 What, you know, what the heck was gonna happen? 258 00:13:16,922 --> 00:13:18,798 So, he goes away to training, 259 00:13:18,882 --> 00:13:21,593 and he was immediately shipped to Korea. 260 00:13:21,676 --> 00:13:24,763 -[guns firing] -[shells explode] 261 00:13:24,846 --> 00:13:26,473 [gunfire] 262 00:13:26,556 --> 00:13:31,061 I remember the day my mother asked me to go and get the mail. 263 00:13:32,521 --> 00:13:34,481 And a lady said to me, 264 00:13:34,564 --> 00:13:36,358 "I heard your brother got killed in Korea." 265 00:13:36,441 --> 00:13:37,734 And I was like, "What?" 266 00:13:39,819 --> 00:13:42,239 I immediately took off running, 267 00:13:42,322 --> 00:13:46,243 and it was probably at least a half a mile. 268 00:13:46,326 --> 00:13:49,329 [somber music continues] 269 00:13:52,290 --> 00:13:55,794 And when I got to where we were living that time, 270 00:13:55,877 --> 00:13:57,837 uh, I could hear my mother... 271 00:13:57,921 --> 00:13:59,589 -[panting] -[mother screams] 272 00:13:59,673 --> 00:14:01,091 [Jerry] ...like, screaming. 273 00:14:03,093 --> 00:14:06,471 [somber music continues] 274 00:14:11,268 --> 00:14:13,311 [David West] It was hope. I think he represented hope 275 00:14:13,395 --> 00:14:17,524 about getting out of a difficult position around poverty. 276 00:14:17,607 --> 00:14:21,695 And Dad idolized his brother, and when he passed, 277 00:14:21,778 --> 00:14:23,989 that was brutal for him. 278 00:14:24,072 --> 00:14:25,740 [Ryan] And he said to me, 279 00:14:25,824 --> 00:14:27,742 "Why would God take away 280 00:14:27,826 --> 00:14:29,744 such a perfect person from this world?" 281 00:14:31,788 --> 00:14:37,043 [Jerry] You think the shock of him being killed was horrible. 282 00:14:38,837 --> 00:14:41,131 Well, you can't imagine 283 00:14:41,214 --> 00:14:43,758 when they brought the casket to our house. 284 00:14:43,842 --> 00:14:46,928 [soft music playing] 285 00:14:49,556 --> 00:14:51,433 [Kenya] That was by request of your father? 286 00:14:51,516 --> 00:14:53,518 -Yes. -[Kenya] To have the casket brought 287 00:14:53,602 --> 00:14:55,729 and set next to the Christmas tree. 288 00:14:55,812 --> 00:14:57,981 [Jerry] Well, that was even more bizarre. 289 00:14:58,064 --> 00:15:03,320 I do remember one thing. I-- I placed my hand on it, okay. I do. 290 00:15:04,779 --> 00:15:07,032 And at night trying to sleep, 291 00:15:07,115 --> 00:15:12,287 knowing my brother, who was my buddy, was invincible, 292 00:15:12,370 --> 00:15:17,167 who was laying in a metal box next to the Christmas tree... 293 00:15:21,129 --> 00:15:22,922 and to know-- and to know that... 294 00:15:24,841 --> 00:15:26,384 we're gonna put him... 295 00:15:28,011 --> 00:15:29,220 in the ground... 296 00:15:31,890 --> 00:15:33,099 it was... 297 00:15:33,183 --> 00:15:36,478 [soft music continues] 298 00:15:36,561 --> 00:15:37,646 ...almost... 299 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:39,481 [sighs] 300 00:15:42,067 --> 00:15:43,360 ...indescribable... 301 00:15:44,653 --> 00:15:45,654 um... 302 00:15:48,365 --> 00:15:50,241 to even walk by this casket. 303 00:15:51,201 --> 00:15:54,204 And there's something about that day 304 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:58,583 that made our house worse than it was before. 305 00:16:01,044 --> 00:16:03,630 My dad was very abusive toward me. 306 00:16:04,589 --> 00:16:07,342 For some reason, I guess the way I was 307 00:16:07,425 --> 00:16:10,095 when things weren't very good at the house... 308 00:16:11,221 --> 00:16:15,266 um... I was the one who was... 309 00:16:17,018 --> 00:16:19,521 He wanted to make an example of me. I couldn't defend myself. 310 00:16:20,897 --> 00:16:22,607 [Karen West] There's no doubt in my mind 311 00:16:22,691 --> 00:16:25,568 that his mother was in a deep depression. 312 00:16:25,652 --> 00:16:28,238 His father became angry. 313 00:16:28,321 --> 00:16:29,656 I think they-- you know, 314 00:16:29,739 --> 00:16:31,741 his father took it out on the younger kids. 315 00:16:31,825 --> 00:16:35,537 You became the protector of your little sister. 316 00:16:35,620 --> 00:16:36,871 -Yes. -[Kenya] Right. 317 00:16:36,955 --> 00:16:40,959 That was something that you felt like you needed to do. 318 00:16:41,042 --> 00:16:43,378 -That was gonna be your job. -Yeah. 319 00:16:43,461 --> 00:16:46,548 My dad hit her with the handle of a hammer, 320 00:16:46,631 --> 00:16:48,299 and this really set me off. 321 00:16:48,383 --> 00:16:50,385 I witnessed it, and it was awful. 322 00:16:51,261 --> 00:16:53,680 "You son of a bitch, you," I said to him, 323 00:16:53,763 --> 00:16:55,557 "You leave her alone." 324 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:57,517 He was a vicious man. 325 00:16:57,600 --> 00:16:59,894 I don't even remember what it was about. 326 00:16:59,978 --> 00:17:01,438 He had a violent temper 327 00:17:01,521 --> 00:17:03,898 and it was an ugly way to live a life. 328 00:17:03,982 --> 00:17:05,567 You don't ever touch a woman. 329 00:17:06,943 --> 00:17:08,403 You don't. 330 00:17:08,486 --> 00:17:11,071 And when I see men today, 331 00:17:11,156 --> 00:17:14,784 we see a lot of it because there's so much more publicity. 332 00:17:14,867 --> 00:17:17,912 It just bothers me, and I-- I don't get it. 333 00:17:18,788 --> 00:17:20,623 You know, women are sacred. 334 00:17:20,707 --> 00:17:23,084 That's an absolute no-no. 335 00:17:24,002 --> 00:17:28,006 That started this change in me where, you know, I didn't care. 336 00:17:28,089 --> 00:17:29,215 I did not care. 337 00:17:30,467 --> 00:17:32,010 I told him, I threatened him. 338 00:17:32,093 --> 00:17:35,263 I said, "You ever do that again," I said, "It's not gonna be fun." 339 00:17:35,346 --> 00:17:38,391 As I say, I didn't care, you know. 340 00:17:38,475 --> 00:17:41,436 Whatever happened, I had a shotgun. 341 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:45,523 I felt like I was at the bottom of the ocean. 342 00:17:46,441 --> 00:17:47,942 But right beside my bed, 343 00:17:48,026 --> 00:17:51,488 I had these little short letters from David, 344 00:17:51,571 --> 00:17:55,575 and he said, "Keep working hard on whatever you're doing." 345 00:17:55,658 --> 00:17:58,328 And he knew I liked basketball and mentioned, 346 00:17:58,411 --> 00:18:00,747 "I hope your basketball is going well." 347 00:18:00,830 --> 00:18:03,416 That's when I really started to practice out there. 348 00:18:04,667 --> 00:18:06,544 And I used to go out by myself 349 00:18:06,628 --> 00:18:08,963 because no one liked to play basketball. 350 00:18:09,047 --> 00:18:11,925 And I think it was so simple, you had a ball and a hoop. 351 00:18:12,008 --> 00:18:13,468 You didn't need people, 352 00:18:13,551 --> 00:18:16,054 but you did need an imagination, okay? 353 00:18:16,137 --> 00:18:19,766 And so, I was the player, I was the coach, 354 00:18:19,849 --> 00:18:21,434 -I was a referee. -[whistle blows] 355 00:18:21,518 --> 00:18:23,102 I was the best player in the world. 356 00:18:23,186 --> 00:18:25,355 I was gonna make a last-second shot. 357 00:18:26,314 --> 00:18:28,233 When I picked this basketball up... 358 00:18:30,109 --> 00:18:32,779 it was almost like picking up a good luck charm. 359 00:18:34,322 --> 00:18:37,408 Well, I started to grow, and I started to get a little bit better 360 00:18:37,492 --> 00:18:40,829 and finally got to play on my ninth grade team. 361 00:18:40,912 --> 00:18:43,748 [Jonnie West] The two major instances in his childhood 362 00:18:43,832 --> 00:18:45,667 were his relationship with his father 363 00:18:45,750 --> 00:18:49,045 and his brother being killed in the Korean War. 364 00:18:49,128 --> 00:18:52,632 Those two things drove him to search for an outlet, 365 00:18:52,715 --> 00:18:56,302 and basketball became that outlet. 366 00:18:56,386 --> 00:18:57,762 [Jerry] My life changed. 367 00:18:57,846 --> 00:19:01,391 All of a sudden, I wasn't this little kid anymore. 368 00:19:02,559 --> 00:19:04,853 Having said that, I would not let my mother 369 00:19:04,936 --> 00:19:06,312 let my father go to games. 370 00:19:06,396 --> 00:19:07,897 I didn't want him to watch me play. 371 00:19:07,981 --> 00:19:11,359 The thing that I got the most joy out of 372 00:19:11,442 --> 00:19:14,070 was playing and competing. 373 00:19:14,153 --> 00:19:17,115 And to think that I wanted to share that with my father? 374 00:19:17,198 --> 00:19:20,910 No. I could not erase what had happened in the past. 375 00:19:20,994 --> 00:19:22,829 -[bright music playing] -[people cheering] 376 00:19:23,872 --> 00:19:26,124 My senior year, we won the state championship. 377 00:19:26,207 --> 00:19:29,294 I have no idea how. We weren't the best team. 378 00:19:29,377 --> 00:19:31,963 But I was scoring a lot of points every night, 379 00:19:32,046 --> 00:19:33,298 -and our team-- -[Kenya] What's a lot? 380 00:19:33,381 --> 00:19:34,591 Do you remember how many points? 381 00:19:34,674 --> 00:19:36,426 [Jerry] [chuckling] Minimum 35. 382 00:19:36,509 --> 00:19:38,803 -[Kenya] What? -[Jerry] Minimum 35. 383 00:19:38,887 --> 00:19:40,555 -[Kenya laughs] -[Jerry] Yeah. 384 00:19:40,638 --> 00:19:43,141 I don't think anyone's ever broken those records, 385 00:19:43,224 --> 00:19:44,976 rebounding and scoring. 386 00:19:46,185 --> 00:19:47,854 I went to East Bank High School, 387 00:19:47,937 --> 00:19:50,189 and one day and one year after that, 388 00:19:50,273 --> 00:19:52,692 they changed the name to West Bank. 389 00:19:52,775 --> 00:19:55,737 It was such a important feeling... 390 00:19:56,571 --> 00:19:59,699 and to even think that it was possible 391 00:19:59,782 --> 00:20:02,452 that I could go to college? 392 00:20:02,535 --> 00:20:05,079 [triumphant music playing] 393 00:20:05,163 --> 00:20:08,416 I was a sophomore playing on the number one team in the country, 394 00:20:08,499 --> 00:20:10,043 which is difficult to do. 395 00:20:10,126 --> 00:20:11,753 You know, I would always be nervous, 396 00:20:11,836 --> 00:20:13,421 water dripping off my hands. 397 00:20:13,504 --> 00:20:15,214 โ™ช I put that work in, I'm serving my service โ™ช 398 00:20:15,298 --> 00:20:16,716 โ™ช I go get it done... 399 00:20:16,799 --> 00:20:19,427 [Jerry] But I said, "Oh, my gosh, maybe I am pretty good 400 00:20:19,510 --> 00:20:21,054 and not just a common player." 401 00:20:21,137 --> 00:20:24,349 [commentator] Jerry West, sensational sophomore, scored 28 points. 402 00:20:24,432 --> 00:20:25,975 Growing up in West Virginia, 403 00:20:26,059 --> 00:20:29,771 from the time I was a freshman in high school, 404 00:20:29,854 --> 00:20:31,648 I became aware of Jerry. 405 00:20:31,731 --> 00:20:34,359 And then at West Virginia University, 406 00:20:34,442 --> 00:20:38,613 I was matched up with him, and that was an experience. 407 00:20:38,696 --> 00:20:41,407 You know, I was supposed to be the next Jerry West, 408 00:20:41,491 --> 00:20:45,244 and quickly found out that might not happen. 409 00:20:45,328 --> 00:20:48,247 [commentator] Here's West with two from close in for West Virginia. 410 00:20:48,331 --> 00:20:50,541 โ™ช I show up and show out, they say I'm the leader... 411 00:20:50,625 --> 00:20:53,294 [commentator] ...pass to Jerry West, and West scores. 412 00:20:53,378 --> 00:20:55,254 โ™ช Like it's on back of jerseys I'm worthy to some... 413 00:20:55,338 --> 00:20:56,798 [Jerry] I became very confident. 414 00:20:56,881 --> 00:20:58,216 Leading the team in scoring. 415 00:20:58,299 --> 00:21:00,551 My game just escalated real quickly. 416 00:21:00,635 --> 00:21:02,261 [commentator] And a pass to West. He breaks into the circle, 417 00:21:02,345 --> 00:21:05,473 puts up the winning bucket with only three seconds remaining. 418 00:21:05,556 --> 00:21:08,309 Jerry West, the 6'3" Cabin Creek sophomore 419 00:21:08,393 --> 00:21:10,812 has 8,000 fans looking on in disbelief. 420 00:21:10,895 --> 00:21:13,106 Keep your eye on number 44. 421 00:21:13,189 --> 00:21:15,233 โ™ช I show up and show out, they say I'm the leader โ™ช 422 00:21:15,316 --> 00:21:17,193 โ™ช I know I'm the one โ™ชโ™ช 423 00:21:17,276 --> 00:21:19,195 [Jerry] To go from this extreme, 424 00:21:19,278 --> 00:21:21,948 when you didn't believe anything about yourself, 425 00:21:22,031 --> 00:21:23,825 to being selected for the Olympic team, 426 00:21:23,908 --> 00:21:25,576 first of all, I thought was a huge honor. 427 00:21:26,285 --> 00:21:27,787 [triumphant music playing] 428 00:21:27,870 --> 00:21:29,789 I can't tell you how beautiful it was. 429 00:21:29,872 --> 00:21:33,960 You know, being from West Virginia, except for Mary Lou Retton... 430 00:21:34,043 --> 00:21:35,420 -[Kenya laughs] -[Jerry] ...there hasn't... 431 00:21:35,503 --> 00:21:37,463 there haven't been very many people 432 00:21:37,547 --> 00:21:39,841 that got to represent the state. 433 00:21:39,924 --> 00:21:41,509 It was even more eye-opening 434 00:21:41,592 --> 00:21:43,428 because my brother had been killed in Korea. 435 00:21:44,429 --> 00:21:48,516 [Ryan] For my father, it wasn't just about representing the country, 436 00:21:48,599 --> 00:21:50,226 but also representing his brother. 437 00:21:50,309 --> 00:21:52,186 As somebody that fought for this country, 438 00:21:52,270 --> 00:21:55,857 it really meant a lot to him in multiple ways. 439 00:21:56,649 --> 00:21:57,859 That Olympics in general, 440 00:21:57,942 --> 00:22:01,195 is a pretty significant Olympics. 441 00:22:01,279 --> 00:22:04,240 There was a lot of historical figures that were involved. 442 00:22:04,991 --> 00:22:07,785 [Ryan] Some of the biggest names in the history of sports, 443 00:22:07,869 --> 00:22:11,330 Wilma Rudolph, Oscar Robertson, Rafer Johnson. 444 00:22:11,414 --> 00:22:13,708 I remember my dad telling me he'd be in his room 445 00:22:13,791 --> 00:22:17,170 and he'd hear this guy just yelling and screaming 446 00:22:17,253 --> 00:22:18,755 and running his mouth. 447 00:22:18,838 --> 00:22:21,132 He'd look out the window, it was Cassius Clay. 448 00:22:21,215 --> 00:22:22,592 It was Muhammad Ali. 449 00:22:23,843 --> 00:22:25,553 [commentator] And Jerry West of West Virginia, 450 00:22:25,636 --> 00:22:27,346 the United States Olympic team. 451 00:22:27,430 --> 00:22:30,349 The first night we played against the Italian team. 452 00:22:30,433 --> 00:22:32,685 [commentator speaking Italian] 453 00:22:32,769 --> 00:22:35,271 [Jerry] They scored the first two baskets of the game. 454 00:22:35,354 --> 00:22:37,190 This place was going crazy. 455 00:22:37,273 --> 00:22:39,067 [chanting in Italian] 456 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:44,197 At that point in time, there was a lot going on in the war. 457 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:48,242 [John F. Kennedy] Ask not what your country can do for you. 458 00:22:48,326 --> 00:22:50,912 Ask what you can do for your country. 459 00:22:50,995 --> 00:22:53,247 [Jerry] You had all the racists in the South, 460 00:22:53,331 --> 00:22:55,792 you had the threat of nuclear war. 461 00:22:55,875 --> 00:22:57,710 You had the Cold War. 462 00:22:57,794 --> 00:23:01,464 And so, you almost felt like you were, uh, participating 463 00:23:01,547 --> 00:23:02,965 in a mini war yourself. 464 00:23:03,049 --> 00:23:04,175 [crowd cheering] 465 00:23:04,258 --> 00:23:06,094 All of a sudden, it got pretty quiet. 466 00:23:07,220 --> 00:23:09,347 I think the next time I looked at the scoreboard, 467 00:23:09,430 --> 00:23:11,015 it was like 26 to 4. 468 00:23:11,099 --> 00:23:14,685 [commentator] West. Rebound by Big Jerry Lucas. 469 00:23:14,769 --> 00:23:17,188 [Jerry] After that, regardless of who we were playing, 470 00:23:17,271 --> 00:23:19,982 oh, my gosh, the score was horrendous in our favor. 471 00:23:20,066 --> 00:23:22,235 [commentator] Jerry West has really been hot. 472 00:23:22,318 --> 00:23:24,654 He averaged about 28 a game as collegiate... [indistinct]. 473 00:23:25,571 --> 00:23:28,032 [commentator 2] Oscar Robertson, he fakes the dot drive, 474 00:23:28,116 --> 00:23:30,034 jumps and hits. 475 00:23:30,118 --> 00:23:31,202 -[Jerry] Above all... -[commentator 3] Oscar Robertson... 476 00:23:31,285 --> 00:23:33,746 [Jerry] ...it was really exciting just having a chance to play 477 00:23:33,830 --> 00:23:35,623 with Oscar Robertson, the Big O. 478 00:23:35,706 --> 00:23:37,208 [commentator] West to Robertson. 479 00:23:38,292 --> 00:23:39,961 He just dominated games. 480 00:23:40,044 --> 00:23:42,338 It was hard to measure yourself against someone like him. 481 00:23:42,421 --> 00:23:44,173 -[upbeat music playing] -[commentator] USA ball 482 00:23:44,257 --> 00:23:45,591 with seven and a half minutes remaining here. 483 00:23:45,675 --> 00:23:46,801 USA on top. 484 00:23:49,137 --> 00:23:51,931 And won a gold medal, which frankly, 485 00:23:52,014 --> 00:23:54,934 was the greatest sports shield I've ever had. 486 00:23:55,017 --> 00:23:58,271 [orchestral "The Star-Spangled Banner" playing] 487 00:23:58,354 --> 00:24:02,567 [George Raveling] To go to Rome and to win the gold medal, 488 00:24:02,650 --> 00:24:06,362 inside yourself, there's like a little invisible t-shirt 489 00:24:06,445 --> 00:24:09,282 saying, "Mission accomplished." 490 00:24:09,365 --> 00:24:10,825 Dad's never been much for trophies... 491 00:24:12,410 --> 00:24:16,038 but that one for sure is super important to him. 492 00:24:16,122 --> 00:24:18,207 ["The Star-Spangled Banner" continues] 493 00:24:20,793 --> 00:24:22,628 [Jerry] And then, you know, all of a sudden, 494 00:24:22,712 --> 00:24:25,590 a big change in my life to go from... [chuckles softly] 495 00:24:25,673 --> 00:24:29,135 a town of about 500 people to Los Angeles, California... 496 00:24:29,218 --> 00:24:31,220 โ™ช Are you ready? โ™ช 497 00:24:31,304 --> 00:24:34,807 [Jerry] ...where I started my basketball career with the Lakers. 498 00:24:34,891 --> 00:24:37,685 โ™ช Are you ready now โ™ชโ™ช 499 00:24:38,728 --> 00:24:40,771 [Jerry] The NBA was in its infancy. 500 00:24:40,855 --> 00:24:44,692 It was just so different from the game today. 501 00:24:44,775 --> 00:24:47,612 You know, there was no publicity when we played. None. 502 00:24:47,695 --> 00:24:49,447 Games were rarely on television. 503 00:24:49,530 --> 00:24:53,993 Most of the people followed games by radio, by newspaper. 504 00:24:54,702 --> 00:24:58,039 [Jerry] Teams had to move because no one would come watch 'em play. 505 00:24:58,122 --> 00:25:02,168 There was no exposure, no social media. 506 00:25:02,877 --> 00:25:04,045 There was not a lot of interest. 507 00:25:04,837 --> 00:25:07,798 [Raveling] Teams didn't have large coaching staffs. 508 00:25:07,882 --> 00:25:10,843 The coaching staffs were one head coach and an assistant. 509 00:25:10,927 --> 00:25:14,096 We had nothing when it came to a strength coach, 510 00:25:14,180 --> 00:25:15,848 an agility coach, a dietitian. 511 00:25:15,932 --> 00:25:17,600 It was a totally different world. 512 00:25:17,683 --> 00:25:20,561 [Jerry] Our mode of transportation were cars, 513 00:25:20,645 --> 00:25:23,272 which the players were driving, the coach were driving, 514 00:25:23,356 --> 00:25:25,524 and we'd go stay in these little motels 515 00:25:25,608 --> 00:25:27,443 out in the middle of nowhere. 516 00:25:27,526 --> 00:25:31,197 I said to myself, "My gosh, this is the NBA?" 517 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:34,242 [David] I remember the Lakers would play on Friday and Sundays 518 00:25:34,325 --> 00:25:36,244 and on Saturday, he worked. 519 00:25:36,327 --> 00:25:39,080 He was at Sears in the parking lot somewhere 520 00:25:39,163 --> 00:25:41,457 promoting basketball, which had just come to the West Coast. 521 00:25:42,750 --> 00:25:45,086 [Jerry] So, here I am in Los Angeles. 522 00:25:45,169 --> 00:25:47,296 All of a sudden, instead of being important 523 00:25:47,380 --> 00:25:50,091 in your own state, it was different. 524 00:25:52,134 --> 00:25:54,011 Our first two games were against the New York Knicks. 525 00:25:54,095 --> 00:25:58,057 Like, 4,820 people in the audience. 526 00:25:58,808 --> 00:26:01,310 Every one of 'em were Knicks fans. 527 00:26:02,561 --> 00:26:05,815 We weren't the attraction, we were kind of a second-class act. 528 00:26:06,565 --> 00:26:07,733 We almost felt like, 529 00:26:07,817 --> 00:26:09,944 what's the purpose of moving to Los Angeles 530 00:26:10,027 --> 00:26:11,529 to draw more people? 531 00:26:11,612 --> 00:26:16,409 But now, started to build a life away from West Virginia. 532 00:26:16,492 --> 00:26:18,536 And it was an eye-opener. 533 00:26:18,619 --> 00:26:22,206 -[upbeat music playing] -[car horn blasts] 534 00:26:22,290 --> 00:26:23,541 It was really weird. 535 00:26:25,668 --> 00:26:27,878 [upbeat music continues] 536 00:26:29,171 --> 00:26:31,716 I'm saying to myself, "My gosh, I don't even know where I was." 537 00:26:33,509 --> 00:26:37,305 I had a wife and three young boys with me. 538 00:26:37,388 --> 00:26:40,516 They put me in a little motel. 539 00:26:40,599 --> 00:26:42,310 I'm not sure it's still there, 540 00:26:42,393 --> 00:26:44,520 but you would not have wanted to be... 541 00:26:44,603 --> 00:26:45,771 -[Kenya laughs] -...even then. 542 00:26:46,731 --> 00:26:49,400 I mean, I'm having a hard time breathing. It, like, hurt. 543 00:26:49,483 --> 00:26:50,776 And somebody said it's smog. 544 00:26:51,569 --> 00:26:53,696 Well, I was so bad in our practice. 545 00:26:53,779 --> 00:26:55,865 "Oh, my gosh," I says, "I'm lost." 546 00:26:55,948 --> 00:26:59,410 I didn't feel like I belonged, I mean, I was trembling. It was awful. 547 00:26:59,493 --> 00:27:03,289 And I said to myself, "My God, am I gonna be good enough 548 00:27:03,372 --> 00:27:05,166 to do something that I love to do?" 549 00:27:05,249 --> 00:27:07,043 [upbeat music continues] 550 00:27:07,126 --> 00:27:09,712 About midway in the season, we weren't very good, 551 00:27:09,795 --> 00:27:11,297 struggling like crazy, 552 00:27:11,380 --> 00:27:14,967 playing 82 games and winning 20. 553 00:27:16,427 --> 00:27:19,013 But then, Coach changed our back work. 554 00:27:19,096 --> 00:27:20,806 [Kenya] What'd he change it to? 555 00:27:20,890 --> 00:27:23,601 Frank Selvy, he was leading scorer in the country... 556 00:27:24,643 --> 00:27:26,354 and, uh, myself. 557 00:27:26,437 --> 00:27:28,356 [commentator] Jerry West of West Virginia 558 00:27:28,439 --> 00:27:30,149 taking the jumper and hitting. 559 00:27:30,232 --> 00:27:32,026 Sand has switched over, this time to West, 560 00:27:32,109 --> 00:27:33,778 and West goes in and makes it. 561 00:27:33,861 --> 00:27:36,906 Lakers maintain possession as West goes... 562 00:27:36,989 --> 00:27:38,657 [Jerry] I started to get to play a little bit more, 563 00:27:38,741 --> 00:27:42,036 and all of a sudden, I said, "You know, I'm gonna be okay." 564 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,789 If you look at how he was as a pro, 565 00:27:44,872 --> 00:27:47,291 he got better and better, you know, as he went along. 566 00:27:47,375 --> 00:27:50,044 And it was because of being very bright, 567 00:27:50,127 --> 00:27:53,506 understanding what he needed to do to make the team better. 568 00:27:53,589 --> 00:27:57,927 [Jerry] We started winning games, and we became a formidable team. 569 00:27:58,010 --> 00:27:59,595 [Kenya] How long did that take? 570 00:27:59,678 --> 00:28:00,721 Just a year. 571 00:28:00,805 --> 00:28:02,014 -[Kenya] One year? -One year. 572 00:28:02,973 --> 00:28:04,558 [commentator] Listen to 'em count it off. 573 00:28:04,642 --> 00:28:06,227 The Lakers have done it! 574 00:28:06,310 --> 00:28:08,396 The crowd is standing at their feet. 575 00:28:08,479 --> 00:28:11,232 They are not fighting to get out as usual. 576 00:28:11,315 --> 00:28:14,235 [Jerry] It was fun to see the change, but particularly the fans. 577 00:28:14,318 --> 00:28:15,903 [Bob] Game night. 578 00:28:15,986 --> 00:28:18,030 The Los Angeles Memorial Sports Arena. 579 00:28:18,114 --> 00:28:20,950 [Jerry] But the place was rockin', completely sold out. 580 00:28:23,202 --> 00:28:25,121 The press started to pay attention to us. 581 00:28:25,204 --> 00:28:28,249 This is the Mar Vista Playground in West Los Angeles, California. 582 00:28:28,332 --> 00:28:30,584 Working out with the youngsters is Jerry West, 583 00:28:30,668 --> 00:28:33,629 Los Angeles Lakers' red-hot sharpshooter from West Virginia. 584 00:28:33,712 --> 00:28:35,965 -Hi, Jerry, how are you? -Hello, Bob. How are you today? 585 00:28:36,048 --> 00:28:38,676 [Bob] NBA stars like West receive hundreds and hundreds 586 00:28:38,759 --> 00:28:40,177 of letters from fans every week, and often... 587 00:28:40,261 --> 00:28:42,555 [Jerry] It was like, oh, my gosh, you know, 588 00:28:42,638 --> 00:28:44,348 you're something special now. 589 00:28:44,432 --> 00:28:46,308 -It felt good. -[people applauding] 590 00:28:48,436 --> 00:28:49,854 [Richard Pryor] You know, niggas and white people fight, 591 00:28:49,937 --> 00:28:52,273 I'll always be rooting for the nigga, even if he bad. 592 00:28:53,315 --> 00:28:54,650 Please whoop the white folks. 593 00:28:54,733 --> 00:28:57,486 I don't want white folks to win nothing. Even Jerry West. 594 00:28:57,570 --> 00:28:59,780 I wish that motherfucker couldn't play basketball. 595 00:28:59,864 --> 00:29:02,199 [audience laughing] 596 00:29:03,284 --> 00:29:06,954 [Pryor] That's it. But that motherfucker can play some basketball. 597 00:29:07,037 --> 00:29:08,789 -[laughs] -[audience laughing] 598 00:29:08,873 --> 00:29:11,625 I mean, niggas be out here, and Jerry would make 22 points. 599 00:29:14,003 --> 00:29:16,714 -It's embarrassing, really. -[audience laughing] 600 00:29:18,174 --> 00:29:20,551 When I first heard it, I've said to myself, 601 00:29:20,634 --> 00:29:24,054 "Oh, my God, I think I've arrived in the Black community." [laughing] 602 00:29:24,138 --> 00:29:27,433 Mr. West was, excuse my French, a cold-ass white boy. 603 00:29:27,516 --> 00:29:30,394 What they say? You know, Jerry was giving it to all races back then. 604 00:29:30,478 --> 00:29:31,645 -[laughs] -No matter what you was, 605 00:29:31,729 --> 00:29:32,813 Jerry was scoring on everybody. 606 00:29:32,897 --> 00:29:35,357 Jerry came from West Virginia 607 00:29:35,441 --> 00:29:37,318 at a time when, you know, 608 00:29:37,401 --> 00:29:40,237 it was Black Panthers, it was Black Power, 609 00:29:40,321 --> 00:29:42,323 it was "I'm Black and I'm proud." 610 00:29:42,406 --> 00:29:43,782 It was civil rights. 611 00:29:44,492 --> 00:29:46,494 For him to be as good as he was during an era 612 00:29:46,577 --> 00:29:50,998 where Black players was becoming more dominant athletically 613 00:29:51,081 --> 00:29:52,750 and getting their own identity. 614 00:29:52,833 --> 00:29:55,711 -โ™ช Say it loud โ™ช -โ™ช I'm Black and I'm proud... 615 00:29:56,962 --> 00:29:59,465 And yet, this dude went toe to toe with them 616 00:29:59,548 --> 00:30:02,134 and they had to respect him based on his talent, 617 00:30:02,218 --> 00:30:04,220 not his color, his talent. 618 00:30:04,887 --> 00:30:06,847 This dude, he was good. 619 00:30:06,931 --> 00:30:08,766 In my neighborhood, you say 620 00:30:08,849 --> 00:30:11,018 Jerry was a bad motherfucker, man. You know what I mean? 621 00:30:12,978 --> 00:30:14,480 โ™ช Alright now โ™ชโ™ช 622 00:30:16,941 --> 00:30:19,151 [Kenya] So, what am I looking at here? What is this place? 623 00:30:19,235 --> 00:30:21,278 This was a, uh, Black school. 624 00:30:22,154 --> 00:30:25,950 The schools were segregated here, which is so stupid. 625 00:30:26,909 --> 00:30:29,954 West Virginia was very segregated when I was a kid. 626 00:30:30,037 --> 00:30:32,289 Didn't go to school with anyone Black. 627 00:30:32,373 --> 00:30:34,583 You know, I have seen on one occasion, 628 00:30:34,667 --> 00:30:36,877 uh, sitting outside at night looking over, 629 00:30:36,961 --> 00:30:39,797 there was a cross burning over on the hillside. 630 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,049 -[Kenya] Oh, shit. -[Jerry] And it actually scared me. 631 00:30:42,132 --> 00:30:45,469 I didn't play with any Black athlete when I was in West Virginia. 632 00:30:45,553 --> 00:30:47,388 -[Kenya] Right. -I played against Black athletes. 633 00:30:47,471 --> 00:30:48,556 [Kenya] Mm-hmm. 634 00:30:48,639 --> 00:30:51,934 The first time I ever heard the name Jerry West, 635 00:30:52,017 --> 00:30:57,106 is we're preparing to go down to play West Virginia, 636 00:30:57,189 --> 00:30:59,775 and our coach is telling us they're gonna have 637 00:30:59,858 --> 00:31:02,945 probably the best player we're gonna play against 638 00:31:03,028 --> 00:31:06,407 all season long, named Jerry West. 639 00:31:06,490 --> 00:31:09,994 I mean, it made Jerry sound like he was God. 640 00:31:10,077 --> 00:31:13,163 So, I walked up to-- to my coach and I said, 641 00:31:13,247 --> 00:31:15,916 "Coach, is Jerry West white or Black?" 642 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:17,960 -And he says, "He's white." -[gentle music playing] 643 00:31:18,043 --> 00:31:21,755 So I said, "Coach, let me guard Jerry West." 644 00:31:21,839 --> 00:31:24,216 And as the record will show, 645 00:31:24,300 --> 00:31:27,970 it was a bad request, 'cause he lit me up. 646 00:31:29,805 --> 00:31:33,225 -[crowd cheers] -[Raveling] We arrived at Morgantown, 647 00:31:33,309 --> 00:31:36,478 and now the first big revelation takes place. 648 00:31:37,521 --> 00:31:39,607 No one on the West Virginia team 649 00:31:39,690 --> 00:31:42,359 knew that Villanova had two Black players. 650 00:31:43,611 --> 00:31:45,863 Of course, that caused a little stir. 651 00:31:45,946 --> 00:31:48,240 [crowd cheering] 652 00:31:48,324 --> 00:31:50,242 [Raveling] And then they did the introductions, 653 00:31:50,326 --> 00:31:53,954 and number 44, Jerry West. 654 00:31:55,205 --> 00:31:57,166 And you might as well just said, 655 00:31:57,249 --> 00:32:00,586 "Ladies and gentlemen, the Lord is playing tonight." 656 00:32:00,669 --> 00:32:05,549 I had never played in a game where an opposing player 657 00:32:05,633 --> 00:32:08,093 got the adoration that Jerry did. 658 00:32:08,177 --> 00:32:10,220 [commentator] Riding the crest of 11 straight wins, 659 00:32:10,304 --> 00:32:13,265 West Virginia, ranked number one, moves in against Villanova. 660 00:32:13,349 --> 00:32:16,226 -The underdog... -So, the game is progressing. 661 00:32:16,310 --> 00:32:17,978 I'm running it behind him, 662 00:32:18,062 --> 00:32:20,481 and I'm coming so fast, and I hit him. 663 00:32:22,524 --> 00:32:25,152 And I knocked him into the first row of seats. 664 00:32:25,235 --> 00:32:26,445 [gasps] 665 00:32:27,738 --> 00:32:29,782 The place was utter silent. 666 00:32:32,117 --> 00:32:34,536 It seemed like Jerry was down there forever. 667 00:32:35,287 --> 00:32:37,206 And I'm thinking to myself, 668 00:32:37,289 --> 00:32:39,208 "Dear God, please let this boy get up." 669 00:32:41,210 --> 00:32:42,836 He looks up at me... 670 00:32:44,004 --> 00:32:45,172 and he puts his hand out... 671 00:32:45,255 --> 00:32:46,465 [gentle music playing] 672 00:32:46,548 --> 00:32:47,925 ...and I help him up. 673 00:32:49,218 --> 00:32:52,388 I always say he probably saved my life. [chuckles] 674 00:32:53,347 --> 00:32:56,225 [commentator] In professional basketball, there are certain players 675 00:32:56,308 --> 00:32:58,560 who are especially admired by their teammates. 676 00:32:59,353 --> 00:33:00,646 Jerry West is one. 677 00:33:00,729 --> 00:33:03,482 Another is Lakers captain Elgin Baylor. 678 00:33:04,441 --> 00:33:06,944 [Jerry] I had two great mentors 679 00:33:07,027 --> 00:33:09,822 in Elgin Baylor and Wilt Chamberlain, 680 00:33:09,905 --> 00:33:13,409 and particularly nights after games, we would play cards, 681 00:33:13,492 --> 00:33:16,328 and there was always four or five Black guys 682 00:33:16,412 --> 00:33:18,831 and one white guy, and that was me. 683 00:33:18,914 --> 00:33:21,250 And I've said it's the greatest learning experience of my life. 684 00:33:22,167 --> 00:33:25,003 My first roommate was Ray Felix. 685 00:33:25,087 --> 00:33:29,800 So, you're rooming with this Black guy, it's 1960. 686 00:33:29,883 --> 00:33:31,760 That wasn't a thing? 687 00:33:31,844 --> 00:33:33,011 No. 688 00:33:33,095 --> 00:33:36,056 And he was constantly, Ray, encouraging me 689 00:33:36,140 --> 00:33:37,433 and he was telling me all the time, 690 00:33:37,516 --> 00:33:39,476 "You gonna be one of the greatest players of all time." 691 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,020 That was so uplifting to me. 692 00:33:42,104 --> 00:33:44,898 I never had anyone say anything like that to me. 693 00:33:44,982 --> 00:33:47,317 I learned more in those conversations 694 00:33:47,401 --> 00:33:50,946 than I've ever known to exist about their feelings, 695 00:33:51,029 --> 00:33:53,198 about things they were exposed to. 696 00:33:53,282 --> 00:33:55,701 I learned it was okay to laugh. 697 00:33:55,784 --> 00:33:57,411 It was okay to make fun of yourself. 698 00:33:57,494 --> 00:34:00,164 It drew me out of a shell. 699 00:34:00,247 --> 00:34:03,709 All of a sudden, I felt confidence in myself 700 00:34:03,792 --> 00:34:06,378 where I-- honestly, I couldn't believe it. 701 00:34:09,339 --> 00:34:11,341 [birds chirping] 702 00:34:16,429 --> 00:34:17,556 Oh, yeah, I see her. 703 00:34:18,724 --> 00:34:19,808 Hey, Makenna. 704 00:34:21,351 --> 00:34:22,478 What are you doing? 705 00:34:22,561 --> 00:34:24,480 -[Makenna] I'm blowing bubbles. -[chuckles] 706 00:34:25,313 --> 00:34:27,190 Oh, boy, big bubbles. [laughs] 707 00:34:28,609 --> 00:34:31,862 The game of basketball brought me so much, 708 00:34:31,945 --> 00:34:36,241 but the good times were far overshadowed by the bad times. 709 00:34:36,992 --> 00:34:38,577 I just hated losing. 710 00:34:40,204 --> 00:34:43,581 But I always felt you have to learn how to lose 711 00:34:43,665 --> 00:34:45,501 and you have to learn how to win. 712 00:34:45,583 --> 00:34:46,877 Um... 713 00:34:48,212 --> 00:34:50,714 I darn sure learn-- learned how to lose. 714 00:34:50,797 --> 00:34:53,967 [fanfare music playing] 715 00:34:54,051 --> 00:34:56,344 [commentator] This is it. The Los Angeles Lakers 716 00:34:56,428 --> 00:34:58,514 and the white-shirted Boston Celtics. 717 00:34:58,597 --> 00:35:00,599 Both teams alert for the breaks. 718 00:35:00,682 --> 00:35:03,310 [Jerry] Lakers versus the World Champion Boston Celtics. 719 00:35:04,394 --> 00:35:06,605 They have all these very famous names. 720 00:35:06,688 --> 00:35:08,774 Bill Russell and Bob Cousy. 721 00:35:09,983 --> 00:35:11,777 [crowd cheering] 722 00:35:11,860 --> 00:35:14,696 The '60s was truly like the Boston Celtic era, 723 00:35:14,780 --> 00:35:16,949 just winning year after year after year. 724 00:35:17,032 --> 00:35:20,536 [Riley] In competition, sometimes you carry these rivalries, 725 00:35:20,619 --> 00:35:23,372 but the Celtics and the Lakers 726 00:35:23,455 --> 00:35:27,292 were not just a heated rivalry, it was a hated rivalry. 727 00:35:28,168 --> 00:35:29,837 -[whistle blows] -[commentator] A pushing foul, 728 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:31,922 and, boy, the whistle screams again. 729 00:35:32,005 --> 00:35:33,632 And it still is to this day. 730 00:35:33,715 --> 00:35:35,342 [commentator] To Worthy. Rambis. 731 00:35:37,803 --> 00:35:39,388 And now, let's watch it. 732 00:35:39,471 --> 00:35:42,224 Cooper and the Celtics, and now the bench is empty. 733 00:35:42,307 --> 00:35:44,101 [commentator speaks indistinctly] 734 00:35:44,184 --> 00:35:47,020 Pierce and Artest already grappling. 735 00:35:47,104 --> 00:35:50,440 It took 27 seconds for these two to go at it a bit. 736 00:35:50,524 --> 00:35:53,193 [Jerry] You sort of inherit that when you become part of the Lakers, 737 00:35:53,277 --> 00:35:55,445 that you become anti-Celtics. 738 00:35:55,529 --> 00:36:00,367 And Jerry being the perfectionist that he always has been, 739 00:36:00,450 --> 00:36:05,414 it was like a personal thing to beat Boston. 740 00:36:05,998 --> 00:36:07,833 The scenes we are about to see were videotaped 741 00:36:07,916 --> 00:36:10,210 during the playing of the seventh and final game 742 00:36:10,294 --> 00:36:11,753 of the world championship series 743 00:36:11,837 --> 00:36:14,756 between the Los Angeles Lakers and the Boston Celtics. 744 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:16,258 [commentator] Six-point lead for the Celtics. 745 00:36:16,341 --> 00:36:17,634 This is the final half. 746 00:36:17,718 --> 00:36:19,887 [Jerry] The first year we played in the finals 747 00:36:19,970 --> 00:36:22,014 was really kind of an epic battle. 748 00:36:22,097 --> 00:36:23,807 [commentator] 58-53. 749 00:36:23,891 --> 00:36:25,934 Baylor with a rebound. The eighth. 750 00:36:26,018 --> 00:36:27,519 Stolen by Ramsey. 751 00:36:27,603 --> 00:36:29,146 Cousy with daylight. 752 00:36:29,229 --> 00:36:30,564 [crowd cheers] 753 00:36:30,647 --> 00:36:32,357 60 to 54. 754 00:36:32,441 --> 00:36:33,859 [Jerry] But our ultimate goal, 755 00:36:33,942 --> 00:36:37,195 something that was part of your mental process 756 00:36:37,279 --> 00:36:40,032 since the time you started playing professional basketball, 757 00:36:40,115 --> 00:36:42,409 you know, how can we win this first championship? 758 00:36:42,492 --> 00:36:45,078 [commentator] West shooting over Loscutoff and hitting. 759 00:36:45,162 --> 00:36:49,249 This is Huntley. Stolen by Ramsey, to Jones. 760 00:36:49,917 --> 00:36:51,960 And the Garden is going crazy. 761 00:36:52,044 --> 00:36:54,129 [Jerry] We had a shot to win the game in regulation, 762 00:36:54,212 --> 00:36:55,505 and it didn't go in... 763 00:36:55,589 --> 00:36:56,798 [commentator] And time runs out. 764 00:36:56,882 --> 00:36:58,759 [Jerry] And so, we went into overtime. 765 00:36:58,842 --> 00:37:00,636 [commentator] Bob Cousy to Russell. 766 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:02,387 [dramatic musical thud] 767 00:37:02,471 --> 00:37:05,515 The Celtics have it wrapped up, 110 to 107. 768 00:37:05,599 --> 00:37:06,600 [Jerry] It hurt. 769 00:37:07,601 --> 00:37:10,062 Little did I know, that was gonna be the start 770 00:37:10,145 --> 00:37:14,274 of a very painful period involving the Celtics and the Lakers. 771 00:37:14,358 --> 00:37:17,361 [commentator] Boston Celtics gunning for an unprecedented 772 00:37:17,444 --> 00:37:19,821 fifth world championship in a row. 773 00:37:19,905 --> 00:37:21,490 Taken by West of the Lakers. 774 00:37:21,573 --> 00:37:24,242 [Jerry] It just seemed like no matter how we played, 775 00:37:24,326 --> 00:37:26,578 usually when I was at my best... 776 00:37:26,662 --> 00:37:27,788 [commentator] West again. 777 00:37:28,830 --> 00:37:30,290 [Jerry] And Elgin was at his best. 778 00:37:30,374 --> 00:37:31,583 [commentator] He and Baylor, of course, 779 00:37:31,667 --> 00:37:33,585 are the two big men for the Lakers. 780 00:37:33,669 --> 00:37:35,963 [Jerry] But we just could not get a bounce. 781 00:37:36,046 --> 00:37:37,547 -[commentator] With a second to go... -[horn blows] 782 00:37:37,631 --> 00:37:39,633 Cousy throws it high in the air, 783 00:37:39,716 --> 00:37:42,094 and the Boston Celtics are the world champions. 784 00:37:42,844 --> 00:37:45,097 [commentator 2] Boston Celtics get off to a bouncy start. 785 00:37:45,180 --> 00:37:47,599 The Lakers managed to stay within striking distance 786 00:37:47,683 --> 00:37:48,725 for the first quarter. 787 00:37:48,809 --> 00:37:50,310 [Jerry] And there was a game that seemed like 788 00:37:50,394 --> 00:37:53,605 everything that you'd worked so hard for, everything... 789 00:37:53,689 --> 00:37:55,107 -[whistle blows] -...it didn't work. 790 00:37:55,190 --> 00:37:58,318 [commentator 2] With the final whistle, Celtics make record book history tonight. 791 00:37:59,528 --> 00:38:01,780 [commentator 3] Fourteen thousand fans jam Boston Garden 792 00:38:01,863 --> 00:38:04,992 for the final Celtics-Lakers NBA playoff game. 793 00:38:05,075 --> 00:38:06,952 [Jerry] I was questioning everything. 794 00:38:07,035 --> 00:38:08,328 [commentator 3] But it's all in vain. 795 00:38:08,412 --> 00:38:12,374 The Celtics win it 95 to 93 for their eighth straight title 796 00:38:12,457 --> 00:38:14,001 and their ninth in 10 years. 797 00:38:14,084 --> 00:38:17,546 [Jerry] Myself, our players, were we good enough? 798 00:38:17,629 --> 00:38:19,631 [commentator 4] This is the fifth time in seven years 799 00:38:19,715 --> 00:38:22,134 that these two have faced in the NBA final. 800 00:38:22,217 --> 00:38:24,636 Jerry West. He drives around and lays it in. 801 00:38:24,720 --> 00:38:26,138 Man, is he great? 802 00:38:26,221 --> 00:38:27,347 [Kupchak] You're kinda like, 803 00:38:27,431 --> 00:38:29,349 "I'm supposed to be one of the greatest players ever. 804 00:38:29,433 --> 00:38:32,102 I'm averaging 28 points a game, and I can't win." 805 00:38:32,185 --> 00:38:33,979 What do you think that does to a person? 806 00:38:34,062 --> 00:38:35,439 [commentator 4] And the never-say-die Boston team 807 00:38:35,522 --> 00:38:38,483 wins the world's professional basketball crown. 808 00:38:38,567 --> 00:38:41,111 [Kupchak] He was tortured when it came to those games. 809 00:38:41,194 --> 00:38:42,738 I was angry. 810 00:38:42,821 --> 00:38:45,741 I mean, you want to just... scream, 811 00:38:45,824 --> 00:38:47,784 "Why, why, why, why?" 812 00:38:48,994 --> 00:38:51,955 [commentator 5] Boston, trying for its 11th championship 813 00:38:52,039 --> 00:38:53,832 in 13 years 814 00:38:53,915 --> 00:38:55,709 and the Lakers trying to end it. 815 00:38:55,792 --> 00:38:58,128 Game seven of the '69 finals. 816 00:38:58,211 --> 00:39:01,214 I mean, it was one of the great performances of his career. 817 00:39:01,298 --> 00:39:04,342 [Punter] You gotta get that ball down and get a quick move. 818 00:39:04,426 --> 00:39:06,970 [commentator 5] A beautiful move by Jerry West. 819 00:39:07,054 --> 00:39:08,638 Jerry West. Another one. 820 00:39:08,722 --> 00:39:10,807 Powell switches off on West. 821 00:39:10,891 --> 00:39:13,602 [Jerry] That was the one I think our whole team 822 00:39:13,685 --> 00:39:15,395 was confident we were gonna win. 823 00:39:15,479 --> 00:39:16,646 [commentator] This superstar. 824 00:39:16,730 --> 00:39:18,273 [Punter] Superstar he is, 825 00:39:18,356 --> 00:39:20,192 and the Celtics are doing everything they can. 826 00:39:21,109 --> 00:39:22,819 [commentator 5] George. Rebound. 827 00:39:24,362 --> 00:39:25,572 And Jerry West. 828 00:39:26,406 --> 00:39:28,784 -[crowd cheers] -And the Lakers come back. 829 00:39:28,867 --> 00:39:30,535 Forty points for Jerry West. 830 00:39:30,619 --> 00:39:33,246 [Punter] The Celtics double-teaming. They would have-- rather have 831 00:39:33,330 --> 00:39:35,874 -Egan or Erickson take the shot than West. -[whistle blows] 832 00:39:37,834 --> 00:39:41,379 [commentator 5] 108 to 104, seven seconds. 833 00:39:42,297 --> 00:39:43,590 Four, three... 834 00:39:44,508 --> 00:39:48,303 And time has run out, and the Boston Celtics have done it again. 835 00:39:49,971 --> 00:39:50,972 [Jerry sighs] 836 00:39:51,056 --> 00:39:54,810 [commentator 5] Another jewel in that crown. 837 00:39:54,893 --> 00:39:57,896 The 1969 loss was brutal. 838 00:39:57,979 --> 00:40:01,566 [commentator 5] A two-point victory by Boston. 839 00:40:01,650 --> 00:40:05,862 That was probably the-- the worst day of his life. 840 00:40:05,946 --> 00:40:08,532 I felt so horrible... 841 00:40:09,491 --> 00:40:11,284 that we had let our fans down. 842 00:40:11,368 --> 00:40:12,619 It was just... 843 00:40:13,453 --> 00:40:14,913 um... [clears throat] 844 00:40:16,706 --> 00:40:17,833 devastating. 845 00:40:19,084 --> 00:40:22,671 [commentator] Rivalry renewed as Los Angeles and Boston 846 00:40:22,754 --> 00:40:26,091 have been in the finals six of the last eight years 847 00:40:26,174 --> 00:40:29,719 and now the Lakers have lost all six. 848 00:40:29,803 --> 00:40:32,013 I'm on here to hit the floor with Red Auerbach... 849 00:40:32,097 --> 00:40:33,974 -Who else? -And Sam Jones. 850 00:40:34,057 --> 00:40:36,393 Just seeing that clip with Red Auerbach... 851 00:40:36,476 --> 00:40:40,313 I want to say that Jerry West was absolutely fantastic. 852 00:40:40,397 --> 00:40:43,191 That was one of the greatest exhibitions I ever saw in my life. 853 00:40:43,275 --> 00:40:44,693 [Jonnie] Like, they had just won a championship, 854 00:40:44,776 --> 00:40:46,695 and that was one of the first things out of his mouth. 855 00:40:47,445 --> 00:40:48,613 Jerry's not... 856 00:40:49,406 --> 00:40:52,325 he doesn't care if you think he's the greatest. 857 00:40:52,409 --> 00:40:55,662 He doesn't care if you think if he did this or did that. 858 00:40:55,745 --> 00:40:57,455 All Jerry wanted to do was win. 859 00:40:58,373 --> 00:41:00,959 And that's all great players want to do, is win. 860 00:41:01,042 --> 00:41:02,961 Like me, I'm the Shaq. 861 00:41:04,045 --> 00:41:05,547 You think I care about being the Shaq 862 00:41:05,630 --> 00:41:07,716 if I don't got those three rings in LA? 863 00:41:07,799 --> 00:41:09,050 No. 864 00:41:09,134 --> 00:41:11,428 [commentator] And tonight, a Most Valuable Player award 865 00:41:11,511 --> 00:41:13,638 will be given for the man most valuable 866 00:41:13,722 --> 00:41:16,308 during the entire seven games. 867 00:41:16,391 --> 00:41:19,311 And Jerry West has won it. 868 00:41:19,394 --> 00:41:21,479 [Vitti] The other thing that haunted him 869 00:41:21,563 --> 00:41:24,733 was being the MVP on a losing team, 870 00:41:24,816 --> 00:41:27,110 the only one in the history of the NBA. 871 00:41:27,194 --> 00:41:29,988 That doesn't bring him any joy at all. 872 00:41:30,071 --> 00:41:32,908 It just poured more salts on the wound. 873 00:41:34,659 --> 00:41:36,912 "Don't insult me," you know, 874 00:41:36,995 --> 00:41:40,874 "and give me this MVP award when the trophy is being soaked 875 00:41:40,957 --> 00:41:43,376 in champagne in the other locker room." 876 00:41:44,502 --> 00:41:47,839 [Kenya] MVP of the finals without winning a final. 877 00:41:47,923 --> 00:41:49,716 Also did it in college. 878 00:41:49,799 --> 00:41:52,677 Well, in college, um, 879 00:41:52,761 --> 00:41:55,430 you know, we lost the NCAA finals by one point, 880 00:41:55,513 --> 00:41:57,557 and I have the ball in my hand at mid-court 881 00:41:57,641 --> 00:41:58,892 and couldn't get a shot. 882 00:41:58,975 --> 00:42:01,811 Uh, I didn't get over that for a long time. 883 00:42:01,895 --> 00:42:03,980 And then, the NBA finals, um... 884 00:42:05,649 --> 00:42:08,443 He and I would've definitely not liked that trophy 885 00:42:08,526 --> 00:42:10,278 on a losing scenario. 886 00:42:10,362 --> 00:42:11,947 You know, I-- I totally understand it. 887 00:42:12,030 --> 00:42:14,741 It's like you're rewarding me for losing. 888 00:42:14,824 --> 00:42:16,952 [David] It didn't matter. He could be the best player on the court, 889 00:42:17,035 --> 00:42:19,412 but it wasn't enough to beat the Celtics 890 00:42:19,496 --> 00:42:24,125 and, uh, it was so bad that even to this day, 891 00:42:24,209 --> 00:42:26,461 nobody in our family ever wears green. 892 00:42:27,295 --> 00:42:31,424 Jerry West, congratulations on being named the Most Valuable Player. 893 00:42:31,508 --> 00:42:34,052 [Ryan] When I went to New York not long after, 894 00:42:34,135 --> 00:42:35,512 to accept my booby prize, 895 00:42:35,595 --> 00:42:39,766 a brand-new souped-up Dodge Charger-- green, no less-- 896 00:42:39,849 --> 00:42:41,518 it was probably intended for a Celtic. 897 00:42:41,601 --> 00:42:43,812 I felt like putting a stick of dynamite in it 898 00:42:43,895 --> 00:42:46,523 and blowing it up right there in Manhattan. 899 00:42:46,606 --> 00:42:49,234 When you expect to win something and you don't win something, 900 00:42:49,317 --> 00:42:50,902 then it's even harder to accept. 901 00:42:50,986 --> 00:42:53,196 We felt we were the better team, 902 00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:54,572 but it didn't prove to be that way. 903 00:42:54,656 --> 00:42:56,950 And I know that it's gonna be particularly hard 904 00:42:57,033 --> 00:42:58,451 for me to understand this summer. 905 00:43:00,453 --> 00:43:02,622 [birds chirping] 906 00:43:04,874 --> 00:43:07,294 Losing all those years to the Celtics, 907 00:43:07,377 --> 00:43:08,753 I started thinking to myself... 908 00:43:09,587 --> 00:43:12,716 "I can't deal with this anymore. It's just too hard." 909 00:43:14,801 --> 00:43:17,804 [Riley] When you're the kind of competitor that Jerry was, 910 00:43:17,887 --> 00:43:19,681 losing all those years, 911 00:43:19,764 --> 00:43:21,808 that would do something to you psychologically. 912 00:43:21,891 --> 00:43:24,769 Absolutely. It would do something. And it did. 913 00:43:24,853 --> 00:43:26,604 [Thorn] Jerry took it personally. 914 00:43:26,688 --> 00:43:31,067 It was like, "I am the failure here, not the team." 915 00:43:31,151 --> 00:43:33,403 When the actuality was, it was the team. 916 00:43:34,529 --> 00:43:36,906 [Ryan] I think there are certain holes in his heart 917 00:43:36,990 --> 00:43:40,744 that can never be filled, the loss of David being one, 918 00:43:40,827 --> 00:43:43,580 and I think all the losses to the Celtics, to this day, 919 00:43:43,663 --> 00:43:45,457 it's something that he can't get over. 920 00:43:46,249 --> 00:43:50,253 [Rick Barry] He always tagged himself in a way that was not the truth. 921 00:43:50,337 --> 00:43:51,838 As a loser. 922 00:43:54,883 --> 00:43:56,593 [reporter] Throughout your whole career, 923 00:43:56,676 --> 00:43:59,220 you were almost as famous for the amount of injuries 924 00:43:59,304 --> 00:44:02,307 that you had as almost about your basketball playing ability. 925 00:44:02,390 --> 00:44:07,187 The 1970, '71 season, you had a knee injury, was operated on, 926 00:44:07,270 --> 00:44:08,730 missed the last couple of weeks of the season, 927 00:44:08,813 --> 00:44:10,065 missed the playoffs. 928 00:44:10,148 --> 00:44:12,776 [Jerry] When it happened, the doctor told me 929 00:44:12,859 --> 00:44:14,361 that I had torn this ligament 930 00:44:14,444 --> 00:44:17,030 and that they're gonna have to operate on it. 931 00:44:17,947 --> 00:44:20,116 I basically thought my career was over. 932 00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:22,535 [reporter] Los Angeles fans turned out in your honor 933 00:44:22,619 --> 00:44:24,621 for the Jerry West Nights. 934 00:44:24,704 --> 00:44:26,039 Well, that was one of the things I think 935 00:44:26,122 --> 00:44:28,291 every athlete probably dreams of having. 936 00:44:28,375 --> 00:44:31,419 The night was really a very special night in more ways than one. 937 00:44:32,337 --> 00:44:33,505 The night... 938 00:44:35,465 --> 00:44:36,800 really meant nothing. 939 00:44:38,259 --> 00:44:40,637 To me, it wasn't a night of celebration. 940 00:44:41,429 --> 00:44:44,849 It felt like a farewell night. I didn't want that. 941 00:44:47,477 --> 00:44:50,647 But... it helped for one reason. 942 00:44:51,815 --> 00:44:53,358 I became more defiant. 943 00:44:53,441 --> 00:44:55,110 You're not gonna break me. 944 00:44:56,528 --> 00:44:58,029 There's no way. 945 00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,074 And so, through encouragement 946 00:45:01,157 --> 00:45:03,868 and almost a miracle, 947 00:45:03,952 --> 00:45:07,288 started me to realize that maybe I could get back and play. 948 00:45:08,998 --> 00:45:10,917 [commentator] Chamberlain blocks another one. 949 00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:12,627 Wilt stops it. And West. 950 00:45:12,710 --> 00:45:14,796 Frazier with 32, Jerry West 20. 951 00:45:14,879 --> 00:45:16,840 Jerry West now with 22 points. 952 00:45:16,923 --> 00:45:19,551 [upbeat music playing] 953 00:45:26,015 --> 00:45:28,601 [commentator] Lakers trying to pressure the inbound pass, 954 00:45:28,685 --> 00:45:30,311 and it comes in to Walt Frazier 955 00:45:30,395 --> 00:45:32,939 with ten seconds now showing on the clock. 956 00:45:33,022 --> 00:45:36,734 Eight seconds left to go on the clock. Seven, six, five. 957 00:45:36,818 --> 00:45:38,153 The Butcher shoots. 958 00:45:38,236 --> 00:45:39,821 He had epic battles with the Knicks, 959 00:45:39,904 --> 00:45:42,073 and in that particular finals game, 960 00:45:42,157 --> 00:45:45,201 he knew the-- the pressures that were being put upon him. 961 00:45:45,285 --> 00:45:49,122 Probably in his mind, you know, he's thinking, "Oh, here we go again." 962 00:45:49,205 --> 00:45:51,249 [commentator] With three seconds to go. 963 00:45:51,332 --> 00:45:55,086 Two seconds, one second, West throws it up. 964 00:45:55,170 --> 00:45:57,547 -[crowd roars] -He makes it! 965 00:45:57,630 --> 00:45:59,424 West throws it up and makes it. 966 00:45:59,507 --> 00:46:02,385 The half-court shot in the finals against the Knicks. 967 00:46:02,469 --> 00:46:06,931 That's my image that's seared in my brain from my childhood. 968 00:46:07,015 --> 00:46:08,141 [Cooper] I'll never forget the Chicag-- 969 00:46:08,224 --> 00:46:10,810 "Jerry West, the kid from Cabin Creek, 970 00:46:10,894 --> 00:46:12,645 throws it up, and it's good, it's good." 971 00:46:12,729 --> 00:46:14,230 And you know, the game goes into overtime. 972 00:46:14,314 --> 00:46:16,691 [commentator] With a minute 27 remaining in the overtime, 973 00:46:16,774 --> 00:46:18,359 Dick Barnett closed out the scoring 974 00:46:18,443 --> 00:46:21,237 to give New York a 111 to 108 victory. 975 00:46:21,321 --> 00:46:24,282 [Cooper] If the three-point line was in play at that time, 976 00:46:24,365 --> 00:46:27,702 that half-court shot he threw in would've beaten the Knicks. 977 00:46:27,785 --> 00:46:29,037 I told him, I said, you know, 978 00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:31,706 "I died a thousand deaths when you hit that shot." 979 00:46:31,789 --> 00:46:36,294 And he looked at me with this really serious face and said, 980 00:46:36,377 --> 00:46:38,755 "I wish I never made that shot," 981 00:46:38,838 --> 00:46:40,256 and turned around and walked away. 982 00:46:41,341 --> 00:46:43,843 Be-- because they ended up losing anyway. 983 00:46:43,927 --> 00:46:45,678 So, everybody talks about the shot. 984 00:46:45,762 --> 00:46:48,431 All he remembers is-- is the loss. 985 00:46:49,849 --> 00:46:51,476 [Riley] He couldn't deal with it that well, 986 00:46:51,559 --> 00:46:54,395 and it affected him immensely. 987 00:46:54,479 --> 00:46:57,273 But then, in '71, '72, he had such a great year. 988 00:46:57,357 --> 00:46:58,525 It was a storybook year. 989 00:46:58,608 --> 00:47:00,818 [commentator] And the coach of the Los Angeles Lakers, 990 00:47:00,902 --> 00:47:02,153 Bill Sharman. 991 00:47:02,237 --> 00:47:06,074 [Riley] And the irony was that his two greatest nemesis, 992 00:47:06,157 --> 00:47:08,159 Bill Sharman and Casey Jones, 993 00:47:08,243 --> 00:47:11,204 who played for the Celtics, were our head coaches. 994 00:47:11,287 --> 00:47:13,873 So, I'm just tremendously pleased 995 00:47:13,957 --> 00:47:15,959 and looking forward to this opportunity. 996 00:47:16,042 --> 00:47:19,879 Jerry was not happy. He says, "I'm gonna quit. [laughing] 997 00:47:19,963 --> 00:47:23,007 You know, I-- I ain't gonna play for those guys." 998 00:47:23,091 --> 00:47:26,511 Eventually, he was very, very respectful of Bill. 999 00:47:26,594 --> 00:47:29,222 [Tom] Jerry, what's your opinion of your new coach, Bill Sharman? 1000 00:47:29,305 --> 00:47:31,683 Well, Tom, he is a stickler for conditioning. 1001 00:47:31,766 --> 00:47:35,061 And I say, we have had about four nightly workouts so far, 1002 00:47:35,144 --> 00:47:37,188 and I'm kinda sore right now. 1003 00:47:37,272 --> 00:47:40,191 [Jerry] At the start of the season, Bill Sharman said, 1004 00:47:40,275 --> 00:47:42,151 you know, "I want you to lead the league in assists." 1005 00:47:43,152 --> 00:47:46,906 I'd never played that way, and I said, "Well, I'll try." 1006 00:47:46,990 --> 00:47:49,409 [upbeat music playing] 1007 00:47:50,618 --> 00:47:53,121 [commentator] November 5th, 1971. 1008 00:47:53,204 --> 00:47:54,914 The Lakers now have their longest win streak 1009 00:47:54,998 --> 00:47:56,916 of the year at five games. 1010 00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:01,462 And all of a sudden, we didn't lose a game for two and a half months. 1011 00:48:01,546 --> 00:48:03,506 [commentator] Wilt Chamberlain wears number 13, 1012 00:48:03,590 --> 00:48:06,134 and he stars in his 13th straight victory. 1013 00:48:06,217 --> 00:48:09,971 The Los Angeles Lakers achieving their 15th consecutive victory. 1014 00:48:10,054 --> 00:48:12,098 -[upbeat music continues] -[Jerry] It was beautiful to watch. 1015 00:48:12,181 --> 00:48:13,641 You're invincible. 1016 00:48:13,725 --> 00:48:14,892 [commentator] West with a fast break to Goodrich. 1017 00:48:14,976 --> 00:48:16,185 Another assist for Jerry West 1018 00:48:16,269 --> 00:48:18,313 who leads the league averaging nine a game. 1019 00:48:18,396 --> 00:48:19,564 [Jerry] I led the league in assists. 1020 00:48:19,647 --> 00:48:23,192 [commentator] The Lakers win their 18th game in a row. 1021 00:48:23,276 --> 00:48:26,404 If the Los Angeles Lakers tonight defeat the Atlanta Hawks, 1022 00:48:26,487 --> 00:48:29,449 they will have won 21 consecutive games. 1023 00:48:29,532 --> 00:48:32,035 [David] In the early '70s, it was all very surreal 1024 00:48:32,118 --> 00:48:34,829 because everyone wanted a piece of his time... 1025 00:48:35,580 --> 00:48:37,790 and you see all the attention that he's getting. 1026 00:48:37,874 --> 00:48:41,002 After the games, he would sign autographs forever. 1027 00:48:41,085 --> 00:48:44,839 I really enjoyed watching him be idolized by so many of the fans. 1028 00:48:45,757 --> 00:48:48,009 We had season tickets, and more and more people 1029 00:48:48,092 --> 00:48:50,928 kept coming over, introducing themselves, and saying hi. 1030 00:48:51,012 --> 00:48:54,057 And then you started seeing more of the movie stars show up. 1031 00:48:54,140 --> 00:48:57,060 [Jerry] It just got easier and easier and easier, 1032 00:48:57,143 --> 00:49:00,271 and the team just kept getting better and better and better. 1033 00:49:00,355 --> 00:49:04,067 We won one, then we won two, and then we won 33 in a row. 1034 00:49:04,150 --> 00:49:06,694 [commentator] The Los Angeles Lakers are the greatest winning team 1035 00:49:06,778 --> 00:49:10,365 in the history of basketball for consecutive wins. 1036 00:49:10,448 --> 00:49:13,701 The team that can play nearly the way that they want to play 1037 00:49:13,785 --> 00:49:15,536 is gonna be the winner of this series. 1038 00:49:15,620 --> 00:49:17,413 [interviewer] What about your team morale? 1039 00:49:17,497 --> 00:49:19,332 Well, I think that if you're in this locker room tonight, 1040 00:49:19,415 --> 00:49:20,583 it's pretty good, don't you think? 1041 00:49:20,667 --> 00:49:23,628 And I really thought that this would be the chance 1042 00:49:23,711 --> 00:49:25,421 for us to win a championship. 1043 00:49:25,505 --> 00:49:27,674 [commentator] The Forum in Inglewood, California, 1044 00:49:27,757 --> 00:49:32,261 tonight, game number five of the NBA championship playoffs, 1045 00:49:32,345 --> 00:49:36,391 with the Los Angeles Lakers leading in the series three games to one. 1046 00:49:36,474 --> 00:49:38,101 Can the Lakers handle the Knicks? 1047 00:49:38,184 --> 00:49:41,187 Yes, they can, but will they is the question. 1048 00:49:41,270 --> 00:49:44,107 Will the Lakers work so hard that they can overcome 1049 00:49:44,190 --> 00:49:45,316 the injuries to the key guys? 1050 00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:46,651 [announcer] Jerry West. 1051 00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:50,571 [Ryan] I think '72 was the ultimate paradox for him. 1052 00:49:50,655 --> 00:49:53,825 At 33, he knew he wasn't the same as a player anymore. 1053 00:49:53,908 --> 00:49:56,285 [announcer] And at guard, Walt Frazier. 1054 00:49:57,203 --> 00:50:00,081 [Ryan] Playing against Walt Frazier, who's seven years younger than him, 1055 00:50:00,164 --> 00:50:03,334 somebody that was becoming one of the best guards in the league. 1056 00:50:03,418 --> 00:50:05,962 [commentator] The tip is controlled by Gail Goodrich, 1057 00:50:06,045 --> 00:50:07,296 deep in the corner. 1058 00:50:07,380 --> 00:50:08,923 -Jerry West. -[crowd cheers] 1059 00:50:09,006 --> 00:50:12,719 This is a man who is one of the superstars of the NBA. 1060 00:50:12,802 --> 00:50:15,388 He's never enjoyed the taste of a championship. 1061 00:50:15,471 --> 00:50:17,098 Frazier. Good. 1062 00:50:17,181 --> 00:50:20,017 The New York Knicks have the lead for the first time. 1063 00:50:20,101 --> 00:50:21,477 Walt Frazier gets the basket. 1064 00:50:21,561 --> 00:50:23,312 The Knicks go back on top by two. 1065 00:50:23,396 --> 00:50:26,983 Here's Frazier. Walter hits a beauty. 1066 00:50:27,066 --> 00:50:29,485 Jerry West loses, it's picked up by Frazier. 1067 00:50:29,569 --> 00:50:32,572 So, the score at halftime, 53 apiece. 1068 00:50:32,655 --> 00:50:36,451 Ball game that is just as rugged and tough as we thought it would be. 1069 00:50:36,534 --> 00:50:39,245 [commentator] Chamberlain tips, Hairston has it slapped away from him, 1070 00:50:39,328 --> 00:50:41,622 and the New York Knicks get the ball. 1071 00:50:41,706 --> 00:50:43,708 And Walt Frazier now with 16 points. 1072 00:50:43,791 --> 00:50:45,877 We're tied at 57. 1073 00:50:46,544 --> 00:50:48,004 West. 1074 00:50:48,087 --> 00:50:51,716 After three, Los Angeles 83, New York 78. 1075 00:50:51,799 --> 00:50:53,676 [commentator 2] The crowd is going berserk 1076 00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:56,929 in anticipation of what they hope will be the final game. 1077 00:50:57,013 --> 00:50:59,557 I've never heard anything like this in Los Angeles. 1078 00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:01,559 [commentator] Five, four... 1079 00:51:01,642 --> 00:51:03,644 -[crowd cheers] -...three, two... 1080 00:51:04,270 --> 00:51:05,980 [indistinct] 1081 00:51:08,274 --> 00:51:09,859 And they run it out. 1082 00:51:09,942 --> 00:51:14,864 And the Los Angeles Lakers have won their first NBA title ever. 1083 00:51:14,947 --> 00:51:16,574 [Ryan] After all my dad had been through, 1084 00:51:16,657 --> 00:51:19,660 all the defeats, all the losses, all the disappointments, 1085 00:51:19,744 --> 00:51:20,912 finally they win. 1086 00:51:20,995 --> 00:51:21,996 They won. 1087 00:51:22,079 --> 00:51:23,623 [commentator 2] And the Los Angeles Lakers 1088 00:51:23,706 --> 00:51:26,334 are the world champions of basketball. 1089 00:51:26,417 --> 00:51:29,629 [David] Winning matters and rings matter. And he was able to overcome. 1090 00:51:29,712 --> 00:51:32,715 I was more happy for Jerry than I was for myself, 1091 00:51:32,799 --> 00:51:35,802 that he could finally get his world championship. 1092 00:51:35,885 --> 00:51:37,386 [Kupchak] It would've been just horrible 1093 00:51:37,470 --> 00:51:40,348 for one of the all-time greats to go through a career 1094 00:51:40,431 --> 00:51:41,641 and not have won a championship. 1095 00:51:41,724 --> 00:51:45,394 [Thorn] To go to the finals nine times, ten times. 1096 00:51:45,478 --> 00:51:47,772 I mean, LeBron's been there a lot. 1097 00:51:47,855 --> 00:51:50,733 You know, other than Russell and maybe some of those guys 1098 00:51:50,817 --> 00:51:52,485 who've played with the Celtics, I mean, 1099 00:51:52,568 --> 00:51:55,696 nobody's been to the finals that many times. 1100 00:51:55,780 --> 00:51:58,658 [commentator] And the Lakers conclude their basketball season 1101 00:51:58,741 --> 00:52:03,246 with a record of 81 victories and only 16 defeats. 1102 00:52:03,329 --> 00:52:05,623 If you would have asked me before the season started, 1103 00:52:05,706 --> 00:52:08,000 "Could that ever be done by any team?" 1104 00:52:08,084 --> 00:52:09,669 I would have thought that you were crazy. 1105 00:52:11,420 --> 00:52:14,215 All the times that we let them down here in Los Angeles, 1106 00:52:14,298 --> 00:52:16,259 we lost in the finals, 1107 00:52:16,342 --> 00:52:19,554 what, eight times or nine times. 1108 00:52:19,637 --> 00:52:22,223 -But you got there. -One time. 1109 00:52:22,306 --> 00:52:24,267 [Ryan] I don't even know how excited he is 1110 00:52:24,350 --> 00:52:26,143 that he won one championship. 1111 00:52:26,227 --> 00:52:29,021 It's something that doesn't make sense in his mind. 1112 00:52:29,105 --> 00:52:31,816 When you lost in the finals, you know, 1113 00:52:31,899 --> 00:52:35,653 seven or eight times in a row before you won it, 1114 00:52:35,736 --> 00:52:39,532 winning the championship in '71, '72 was like a Band-Aid. 1115 00:52:40,449 --> 00:52:42,034 -It was a Band-Aid. -[soft music playing] 1116 00:52:42,118 --> 00:52:44,912 [Jerry] We have beaten everyone they asked us to beat. 1117 00:52:46,289 --> 00:52:47,665 But I get in the locker room 1118 00:52:47,748 --> 00:52:50,001 and I said, "Oh, my God, is that all there is?" 1119 00:52:50,918 --> 00:52:54,088 He was used to losing, and he hated it, 1120 00:52:54,171 --> 00:52:56,215 but when he won, 1121 00:52:56,299 --> 00:53:00,720 it was difficult to enjoy because he didn't grow up winning 1122 00:53:00,803 --> 00:53:03,055 and he didn't know how to handle it. 1123 00:53:07,810 --> 00:53:13,482 In the newspaper, there was an unbelievable derogatory column 1124 00:53:13,566 --> 00:53:15,359 written about me, 1125 00:53:15,443 --> 00:53:19,238 talking about it looked like I was done as a player. 1126 00:53:21,449 --> 00:53:25,995 Basketball was my life, my love, what I cared about deeply. 1127 00:53:26,078 --> 00:53:28,164 But after I read that article... 1128 00:53:29,081 --> 00:53:31,751 that was like a real wake-up call to me. 1129 00:53:31,834 --> 00:53:35,046 [soft music continues] 1130 00:53:37,673 --> 00:53:41,010 It brought me back to growing up. 1131 00:53:44,388 --> 00:53:47,058 -[soft music continues] -[insects chirping] 1132 00:53:54,482 --> 00:53:56,943 You know, am I gonna be discarded? 1133 00:53:59,612 --> 00:54:01,113 I think that, uh... 1134 00:54:02,865 --> 00:54:05,409 that when you set standards for yourself... 1135 00:54:06,327 --> 00:54:08,412 and when you are willing to... 1136 00:54:09,789 --> 00:54:11,248 sacrifice some of those standards, 1137 00:54:11,332 --> 00:54:13,793 then you're not being very honest with yourself. 1138 00:54:13,876 --> 00:54:16,545 And, uh, I know myself that, uh, 1139 00:54:16,629 --> 00:54:19,173 I didn't want to sacrifice those standards. 1140 00:54:19,256 --> 00:54:20,967 [Rosen] Jerry certainly could have continued to play 1141 00:54:21,050 --> 00:54:23,427 at a really high level, and I'm sorry he retired, 1142 00:54:23,511 --> 00:54:28,557 but, you know, when he decides on something, he does it. 1143 00:54:28,641 --> 00:54:31,644 [soft music playing] 1144 00:54:33,145 --> 00:54:36,148 [pen scratching] 1145 00:54:41,988 --> 00:54:44,407 I have thought long and hard 1146 00:54:44,490 --> 00:54:49,662 that if I would've left the game and said, "Hell with this..." 1147 00:54:50,746 --> 00:54:53,457 w-where would my life have been? I have no clue. 1148 00:54:54,750 --> 00:54:57,420 [commentator] Jerry West has stayed close to the game 1149 00:54:57,503 --> 00:55:02,383 and the team that he loves since retiring in 1974 at the age of 36. 1150 00:55:02,466 --> 00:55:06,595 [Jerry] Now, all of a sudden, I was responsible for 11 players 1151 00:55:06,679 --> 00:55:09,432 and I thought we had a great chance to win. 1152 00:55:09,515 --> 00:55:11,267 [upbeat music playing] 1153 00:55:11,350 --> 00:55:13,060 Even though we had a winning record... 1154 00:55:14,186 --> 00:55:16,564 and we're in the playoffs, injuries, 1155 00:55:16,647 --> 00:55:19,358 everything you think could happen, down we go. 1156 00:55:19,442 --> 00:55:21,652 โ™ช Living hell โ™ชโ™ช 1157 00:55:21,736 --> 00:55:23,571 [Jerry] That was extremely difficult. 1158 00:55:24,572 --> 00:55:26,198 [Cooper] There's an old saying in the NBA, 1159 00:55:26,282 --> 00:55:28,034 "Great players don't make great coaches," 1160 00:55:28,117 --> 00:55:30,703 and that's very true. Jerry West was not a good coach. 1161 00:55:30,786 --> 00:55:33,914 He couldn't handle the players making mediocre mistakes. 1162 00:55:33,998 --> 00:55:35,833 [Abdul-Jabbar] Jerry felt everybody could improve. 1163 00:55:35,916 --> 00:55:39,628 If he had something to tell you about how you could improve, 1164 00:55:39,712 --> 00:55:41,255 he'd let you know. 1165 00:55:41,338 --> 00:55:43,299 [Jerry] When I got to the third year, 1166 00:55:43,382 --> 00:55:47,845 my inability to not only communicate with these players 1167 00:55:47,928 --> 00:55:51,348 but to be kind of friendly with 'em, that was gone. 1168 00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:54,268 One night in the locker room, I said, 1169 00:55:54,351 --> 00:55:57,021 "I know you don't want me to be your coach. 1170 00:55:57,104 --> 00:55:59,231 I wouldn't want to play for myself either." 1171 00:55:59,315 --> 00:56:00,357 Do you have fun as a coach? 1172 00:56:00,441 --> 00:56:03,819 Uh, Scott, it's probably the most unenjoyable three years 1173 00:56:03,903 --> 00:56:05,905 -I've ever had in my life. -[Scott laughing] 1174 00:56:05,988 --> 00:56:08,949 I-- I simply emotionally was not cut out to be a coach. 1175 00:56:09,033 --> 00:56:11,118 I-I just did not like it at all. 1176 00:56:11,202 --> 00:56:14,789 I couldn't do it anymore. I-I just... I was done. 1177 00:56:14,872 --> 00:56:15,998 [newscaster] Now, in related news tonight, 1178 00:56:16,082 --> 00:56:18,417 Jerry West has resigned as coach of the Lakers... 1179 00:56:18,501 --> 00:56:21,087 [Jerry] Thinking back about that, it served me well. 1180 00:56:21,962 --> 00:56:24,715 I couldn't be the solver of every problem 1181 00:56:24,799 --> 00:56:26,759 because I couldn't even solve my own problem. 1182 00:56:26,842 --> 00:56:27,968 [Kenya] Mm-hmm. 1183 00:56:28,052 --> 00:56:30,513 One of the things that I'm drawn to 1184 00:56:30,596 --> 00:56:33,182 is the idea of family. 1185 00:56:33,265 --> 00:56:35,476 You know what I'm saying? And, like, marriage, 1186 00:56:35,559 --> 00:56:37,853 being a father, going through a divorce. 1187 00:56:37,937 --> 00:56:40,689 How was that time in your life? 1188 00:56:42,108 --> 00:56:43,359 That's... [sighs] 1189 00:56:43,442 --> 00:56:44,819 I guess probably the... 1190 00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:50,783 thing that I beat myself up more than anything about. 1191 00:56:50,866 --> 00:56:52,284 [interviewer] Did you say you haven't seen Jerry 1192 00:56:52,368 --> 00:56:54,120 for... for a while? 1193 00:56:54,203 --> 00:56:55,454 [Martha] For weeks. 1194 00:56:55,538 --> 00:56:57,248 [interviewer] What time do they practice when-- 1195 00:56:57,331 --> 00:56:59,083 For instance, today did they practice? 1196 00:56:59,166 --> 00:57:03,087 [Martha] Practiced at 11 o'clock to about quarter of one. 1197 00:57:03,170 --> 00:57:04,797 Then he had a pre-game meal out, 1198 00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:06,841 and then he came home and took a nap, 1199 00:57:06,924 --> 00:57:08,259 and then he left for the game. 1200 00:57:08,342 --> 00:57:10,052 [interviewer] When does he think the season's gonna be over? 1201 00:57:10,136 --> 00:57:11,512 [Martha] [laughs] I don't know anything. 1202 00:57:11,595 --> 00:57:13,347 [interviewer] What does he really think about Chicago, for instance? 1203 00:57:13,430 --> 00:57:15,224 -Does he... -[Jerry] Because you're giving your life 1204 00:57:15,307 --> 00:57:17,351 and your heart and soul to this, 1205 00:57:17,434 --> 00:57:21,021 there's things that you have to neglect, 1206 00:57:21,105 --> 00:57:22,439 and it wasn't because... 1207 00:57:23,566 --> 00:57:25,526 I didn't enjoy being a father. 1208 00:57:26,485 --> 00:57:29,989 It was because my calling in life kept me away... 1209 00:57:30,865 --> 00:57:34,994 and my crazy desire to win 1210 00:57:35,077 --> 00:57:36,829 kept me concentrating on that 1211 00:57:36,912 --> 00:57:39,456 instead of concentrating on my older children. 1212 00:57:40,416 --> 00:57:43,127 [David] What I remember most about the '60s and growing up 1213 00:57:43,210 --> 00:57:46,046 was going to the airport and wishing Dad 1214 00:57:46,130 --> 00:57:47,381 good luck on the trip. 1215 00:57:47,464 --> 00:57:48,841 He wasn't around a lot. 1216 00:57:48,924 --> 00:57:51,010 [interviewer] If you're gonna pick the great moments in your life, 1217 00:57:51,093 --> 00:57:52,636 would they be out on the court? 1218 00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:54,930 [Jerry] Oh, I don't think there's any question that-- 1219 00:57:55,014 --> 00:57:56,348 maybe unfortunately so, 1220 00:57:56,432 --> 00:58:00,019 that most of the high and low moments in my life 1221 00:58:00,102 --> 00:58:02,813 have really involved basketball. 1222 00:58:02,897 --> 00:58:04,690 [Barry] You have to go to practice all the time. 1223 00:58:04,773 --> 00:58:06,192 Then you're off on the road. 1224 00:58:06,275 --> 00:58:08,819 You spend more time during the course of an NBA season 1225 00:58:08,903 --> 00:58:10,654 with your teammates than you do with your family 1226 00:58:10,738 --> 00:58:11,989 if you have a family. 1227 00:58:13,032 --> 00:58:15,659 [David] My earliest reflection was really more about 1228 00:58:15,743 --> 00:58:17,620 did they win or lose the night before 1229 00:58:17,703 --> 00:58:19,413 and what his mood was gonna be like. 1230 00:58:19,496 --> 00:58:22,416 If they lost on a Friday night, 1231 00:58:22,499 --> 00:58:25,753 Saturday morning was not gonna be too much fun. 1232 00:58:25,836 --> 00:58:27,630 He could be really tough at times 1233 00:58:27,713 --> 00:58:29,757 and get very quiet and grouchy. 1234 00:58:31,091 --> 00:58:34,178 [Jerry] It was all consuming for me. That's all I cared about. 1235 00:58:34,261 --> 00:58:37,139 The day of the game, no noise in my house. 1236 00:58:37,223 --> 00:58:39,850 I don't want to hear any noise, none. 1237 00:58:40,976 --> 00:58:43,479 Quiet. Basically, don't talk to me. 1238 00:58:43,562 --> 00:58:47,858 [David] He could be unfairly tough at times, 1239 00:58:47,942 --> 00:58:50,069 and he expected a lot out of us. 1240 00:58:50,152 --> 00:58:52,780 He ran a tight ship and, you know, he, um... 1241 00:58:53,822 --> 00:58:55,532 uh... 1242 00:58:55,616 --> 00:58:57,326 it wa-- it was a little tough. 1243 00:58:57,409 --> 00:59:00,412 [kids shouting indistinctly] 1244 00:59:02,248 --> 00:59:04,083 [Jerry] Three young boys, 1245 00:59:04,166 --> 00:59:07,336 very awkward period of life to grow up, 1246 00:59:07,419 --> 00:59:09,338 and today when I'm around, 1247 00:59:09,421 --> 00:59:13,634 I just see damage that the father wasn't around. 1248 00:59:15,344 --> 00:59:17,096 After we've separated, 1249 00:59:17,179 --> 00:59:20,266 I couldn't sleep at night wondering how my kids were doing. 1250 00:59:20,349 --> 00:59:23,602 I would drive by my former house. 1251 00:59:23,686 --> 00:59:25,604 I drove by every night. 1252 00:59:25,688 --> 00:59:29,233 Everything I was doing, I was blaming myself, 1253 00:59:29,316 --> 00:59:31,360 and that was probably the most depressed period 1254 00:59:31,443 --> 00:59:32,987 I've ever had in my life... 1255 00:59:33,821 --> 00:59:37,241 where I just loathed anything about me. 1256 00:59:40,119 --> 00:59:42,037 [Kenya] I think that's really understandable. 1257 00:59:42,121 --> 00:59:44,540 I felt that way myself. My biggest regret, you know. 1258 00:59:44,623 --> 00:59:46,292 My-- it's like a death in the family 1259 00:59:46,375 --> 00:59:47,501 going through a divorce, 1260 00:59:47,584 --> 00:59:49,169 and I'm asking this personally, like, 1261 00:59:49,253 --> 00:59:52,256 what then gave you the courage to do it again? 1262 00:59:55,676 --> 00:59:57,344 -[gentle music playing] -[Karen] When I first met Jerry 1263 00:59:57,428 --> 00:59:59,972 in the hour and a half that I spent with him, 1264 01:00:00,055 --> 01:00:03,767 he, you know, basically told me his whole life story. 1265 01:00:03,851 --> 01:00:04,852 [laughs] 1266 01:00:04,935 --> 01:00:07,563 [Jerry] I remember how happy, 1267 01:00:07,646 --> 01:00:10,024 how cheerful, how spirited she was, 1268 01:00:10,107 --> 01:00:12,818 something that I was missing. 1269 01:00:13,610 --> 01:00:16,864 She was willing to listen to some of the things 1270 01:00:16,947 --> 01:00:20,117 that I would never have been able to express to anyone else. 1271 01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:24,621 [Karen] I did live in Los Angeles, I knew him as that superstar. 1272 01:00:24,705 --> 01:00:29,168 But he was intelligent, intense, emotional. 1273 01:00:29,251 --> 01:00:32,755 He was very serious, but he had a funny side to him. 1274 01:00:32,838 --> 01:00:34,757 Three years later, we got married. 1275 01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:37,134 He said he would not ever wear a tuxedo. 1276 01:00:38,677 --> 01:00:39,970 But he did. 1277 01:00:41,138 --> 01:00:43,515 -[soft music playing] -[reporter] After years of ups and downs, 1278 01:00:43,599 --> 01:00:45,809 Jerry West appears to have it all. 1279 01:00:45,893 --> 01:00:48,687 Happiness as a father and as a husband. 1280 01:00:48,771 --> 01:00:50,939 [giggling] 1281 01:00:51,023 --> 01:00:54,026 Two years ago, Jerry West became a new father. 1282 01:00:54,109 --> 01:00:57,112 Meet future slam dunker Jonathan West 1283 01:00:57,196 --> 01:00:59,031 and his older brother Ryan. 1284 01:00:59,114 --> 01:01:01,450 [Jerry] I don't think you ever dream you're gonna be a father when you're 50. 1285 01:01:01,533 --> 01:01:04,244 We have a-- a little boy who's a lot of fun. 1286 01:01:04,328 --> 01:01:07,331 It's fun to watch him grow up, but I'm home more now. 1287 01:01:07,414 --> 01:01:08,874 [Kenya] So, how would you describe him? 1288 01:01:10,376 --> 01:01:13,212 I'd-- I'd describe my father as a... 1289 01:01:14,797 --> 01:01:17,007 probably very misunderstood person. 1290 01:01:18,384 --> 01:01:20,177 You know, when we first met, 1291 01:01:20,260 --> 01:01:23,305 I felt like he was a very sad man. 1292 01:01:24,473 --> 01:01:26,517 I sort of felt sorry for him. 1293 01:01:27,726 --> 01:01:29,061 -[David] Hi. -[Karen] Hi. 1294 01:01:29,144 --> 01:01:30,562 -Perfect timing. -[Jerry] Oh, yeah. 1295 01:01:30,646 --> 01:01:32,564 -Surprise, surprise. -Just got back from Sacramento. 1296 01:01:32,648 --> 01:01:34,983 [Karen] When I first met Jerry's older sons... 1297 01:01:36,026 --> 01:01:37,569 it was so awkward to me 1298 01:01:37,653 --> 01:01:40,656 that as they entered the room, they shook hands. 1299 01:01:40,739 --> 01:01:44,993 Jerry shook their hand, and I thought, "Gosh, my dad would never do that." 1300 01:01:45,077 --> 01:01:47,454 You said, you never heard your father say, "I love you." 1301 01:01:47,538 --> 01:01:49,248 Right. 1302 01:01:49,331 --> 01:01:51,166 -Did you ever-- -I don't use, "I love you." 1303 01:01:53,419 --> 01:01:56,255 I don't know if it's in-- inside of me. I really don't. 1304 01:01:56,338 --> 01:01:58,006 We were with a friend one time, 1305 01:01:58,090 --> 01:01:59,925 and they had him look it up in the dictionary 1306 01:02:00,008 --> 01:02:01,802 and, you know, Jerry was still... 1307 01:02:01,885 --> 01:02:04,179 -It-it's like... -...he can't put his finger around that. 1308 01:02:04,263 --> 01:02:07,516 ...three words... I'm afraid of. 1309 01:02:08,434 --> 01:02:11,478 "I love you." I'm afraid of those three words. 1310 01:02:11,562 --> 01:02:14,523 [Karen] I think Jerry deals with inner demons. 1311 01:02:18,277 --> 01:02:22,197 He'll go to his own quiet place, and you sorta just let him. 1312 01:02:23,699 --> 01:02:26,535 [Jerry] Used to love to fish, and I just fished off the shore 1313 01:02:26,618 --> 01:02:29,079 and I could stay out here forever. 1314 01:02:29,163 --> 01:02:31,748 I just-- I love the serenity of it, 1315 01:02:31,832 --> 01:02:35,377 and I've always been attracted to the outdoors, 1316 01:02:35,461 --> 01:02:39,173 and this is the thing that probably I've carried most with me 1317 01:02:39,256 --> 01:02:42,134 as I've gotten older, but I love fishing. 1318 01:02:42,217 --> 01:02:46,138 It's, uh, solitary, and I'm a very solitary person. 1319 01:02:47,097 --> 01:02:49,224 [David] When he's going through things, he has a tendency 1320 01:02:49,308 --> 01:02:51,894 to withdraw and really keep to himself. 1321 01:02:52,769 --> 01:02:57,065 As a young wife, it felt very, um, uncomfortable. 1322 01:02:57,983 --> 01:03:00,777 He took his work home. 1323 01:03:00,861 --> 01:03:03,530 There were times when he just would go into a shell 1324 01:03:03,614 --> 01:03:06,074 and not speak for days. 1325 01:03:07,034 --> 01:03:08,535 I didn't know how to act. 1326 01:03:08,619 --> 01:03:12,831 I-I'd go in my closet and cry because I thought it was me. 1327 01:03:12,915 --> 01:03:15,125 I thought I did something wrong. 1328 01:03:15,209 --> 01:03:16,460 [birds chirping] 1329 01:03:17,211 --> 01:03:22,007 There is a real affable, genuine, humorous side to Jerry, 1330 01:03:22,090 --> 01:03:23,800 and then there is the other side, 1331 01:03:23,884 --> 01:03:26,428 a very dark, depressive side. 1332 01:03:27,429 --> 01:03:29,348 [Kupchak] The title of his book is perfect, 1333 01:03:29,431 --> 01:03:31,600 My Charmed and Tormented Life. 1334 01:03:31,683 --> 01:03:34,061 That tells you a lot of what you need to know. 1335 01:03:34,144 --> 01:03:36,063 I think he deals with it as best he could. 1336 01:03:36,146 --> 01:03:38,607 He's-- he's not a simple person. 1337 01:03:38,690 --> 01:03:40,192 [Arn Tellem] Battling depression, 1338 01:03:40,275 --> 01:03:42,069 battling all the ups and downs of his career, 1339 01:03:42,152 --> 01:03:43,320 even his personal life, 1340 01:03:43,403 --> 01:03:45,447 these are hard issues to navigate. 1341 01:03:47,449 --> 01:03:49,952 [exhales sharply] Some days I don't function very well. 1342 01:03:50,035 --> 01:03:53,038 You know, if I happen to get in a mood like that... 1343 01:03:54,206 --> 01:03:55,415 um... 1344 01:03:55,499 --> 01:03:57,501 [soft music continues] 1345 01:04:03,131 --> 01:04:04,758 What would turn this switch, you know, 1346 01:04:04,841 --> 01:04:08,887 where I felt fantastic about things and then the next, 1347 01:04:08,971 --> 01:04:10,722 I feel the bottom of the ocean? 1348 01:04:11,848 --> 01:04:15,435 All the books I've read, self-help books, 1349 01:04:15,519 --> 01:04:17,479 I have never come to grips with that. 1350 01:04:17,563 --> 01:04:20,315 You know, it's really an honor to meet you. [laughing] 1351 01:04:20,399 --> 01:04:21,775 [Ryan] Some days, you'll call him, 1352 01:04:21,858 --> 01:04:23,860 and he'll be in a very talkative mood 1353 01:04:23,944 --> 01:04:25,862 and you can't get him off the phone. 1354 01:04:25,946 --> 01:04:27,656 Other days, he'll say, 1355 01:04:27,739 --> 01:04:30,200 "I'm so depressed, I don't want to live." 1356 01:04:34,246 --> 01:04:36,373 And you don't know what triggers it. 1357 01:04:36,456 --> 01:04:37,666 It's painful. 1358 01:04:40,002 --> 01:04:43,380 [Karen] I know deep in his heart who he loves. 1359 01:04:44,298 --> 01:04:48,218 I just, you know, I just support him when I can. 1360 01:04:51,513 --> 01:04:54,391 Reports persist that Jack Kent Cooke has sold the Lakers, 1361 01:04:54,474 --> 01:04:56,935 the Kings, and his Fabulous Forum 1362 01:04:57,019 --> 01:05:00,147 to ex-world team tennis mogul Jerry Buss. 1363 01:05:00,230 --> 01:05:03,692 The price being bandied about is $67 million. 1364 01:05:03,775 --> 01:05:05,360 That would make it by far 1365 01:05:05,444 --> 01:05:07,946 the biggest deal in the history of sports. 1366 01:05:08,905 --> 01:05:10,407 [Jerry] Jerry Buss wanted me to coach the team 1367 01:05:10,490 --> 01:05:11,742 when he bought it from Jack Cooke. 1368 01:05:11,825 --> 01:05:13,327 I told him I'm not doing it. 1369 01:05:13,410 --> 01:05:14,745 There was no way. 1370 01:05:14,828 --> 01:05:17,956 So, he hired me as a consultant, 1371 01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:20,626 and from there things changed. 1372 01:05:20,709 --> 01:05:22,753 All of a sudden, I'm the general manager. 1373 01:05:22,836 --> 01:05:25,631 Going from a player to an executive, 1374 01:05:25,714 --> 01:05:29,259 it was really the start of a whole new life, 1375 01:05:29,343 --> 01:05:31,553 and I guess, career. 1376 01:05:31,637 --> 01:05:32,846 I didn't look at it like that. 1377 01:05:32,929 --> 01:05:35,515 To me, it was an extension of what I loved. 1378 01:05:35,599 --> 01:05:36,975 I loved basketball. 1379 01:05:37,059 --> 01:05:40,020 [upbeat music continues] 1380 01:05:40,103 --> 01:05:41,605 [Jonnie] To be a great general manager, 1381 01:05:41,688 --> 01:05:43,523 like, you obviously have to have this ability 1382 01:05:43,607 --> 01:05:45,692 to lead great athletes. 1383 01:05:45,776 --> 01:05:47,277 That's the number one thing. 1384 01:05:47,361 --> 01:05:49,821 This ability to identify talent, 1385 01:05:49,905 --> 01:05:51,865 whether that's young players... 1386 01:05:52,908 --> 01:05:54,951 new players you're adding to your team, coaches, 1387 01:05:55,035 --> 01:05:56,495 like, there's so much that goes into it. 1388 01:05:56,578 --> 01:05:59,331 He sees, like, the puzzle piece of team building 1389 01:05:59,414 --> 01:06:01,041 better than anybody ever has. 1390 01:06:01,124 --> 01:06:04,878 [Kenya] As an executive, what do you think that part for you is 1391 01:06:04,961 --> 01:06:07,005 that has made you sort of be able to be 1392 01:06:07,089 --> 01:06:10,300 as successful as you've been? 1393 01:06:11,343 --> 01:06:13,303 Very much like a player. 1394 01:06:13,387 --> 01:06:15,138 I'm not afraid to make a mistake. 1395 01:06:15,222 --> 01:06:17,182 I trust my instincts. 1396 01:06:17,265 --> 01:06:21,144 Jerry West is synonymous with several organizations now. 1397 01:06:22,229 --> 01:06:25,357 They've all trended upwards due to his tutelage, 1398 01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:28,443 due to his tenacity, due to his presence. 1399 01:06:28,527 --> 01:06:31,863 And there's not many people that can say that in the NBA. 1400 01:06:31,947 --> 01:06:34,032 There's not many people that can say that in the world. 1401 01:06:34,116 --> 01:06:36,034 I almost call it the Midas Touch. 1402 01:06:36,118 --> 01:06:39,246 It's not luck. That's-- that's Jerry West. 1403 01:06:39,329 --> 01:06:42,040 Jerry could have went anywhere, but he's gonna always make those moves. 1404 01:06:42,124 --> 01:06:45,210 I always compare him to a professional chess player. 1405 01:06:45,293 --> 01:06:46,795 You know how Magic has the magic? 1406 01:06:46,878 --> 01:06:50,090 Well, Jerry has that same magic from the front office side. 1407 01:06:50,173 --> 01:06:52,050 [Riley] Jerry was an ex-player, 1408 01:06:52,134 --> 01:06:56,513 and so he had a tremendous knowledge of talent. 1409 01:06:56,596 --> 01:06:58,056 He could see talent. 1410 01:06:58,140 --> 01:06:59,182 [whistle blows] 1411 01:06:59,266 --> 01:07:00,851 He was constantly on the road 1412 01:07:00,934 --> 01:07:04,938 going to every 500 population town in this country 1413 01:07:05,021 --> 01:07:08,567 to find players, high school players, college players. 1414 01:07:08,650 --> 01:07:11,695 [Jordan] He would go to every gym that you can think of to find talent. 1415 01:07:11,778 --> 01:07:14,531 But at some point in time, you gotta make a decision on that talent. 1416 01:07:14,614 --> 01:07:16,700 That's what Jerry really, really was good at. 1417 01:07:16,783 --> 01:07:19,453 What, to me, separated Jerry... 1418 01:07:20,620 --> 01:07:24,124 was his willingness to speak truth. 1419 01:07:24,207 --> 01:07:28,128 If he thought a player was not playing at a certain level, 1420 01:07:28,211 --> 01:07:29,546 he said it. 1421 01:07:29,629 --> 01:07:31,757 What made him such a credible GM 1422 01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:34,593 was his ability to look into people 1423 01:07:34,676 --> 01:07:37,345 and have a sense of what was really making them tick. 1424 01:07:37,429 --> 01:07:41,349 He's the best executive in the history of the NBA. 1425 01:07:41,433 --> 01:07:44,394 To accomplish what he accomplished 1426 01:07:44,478 --> 01:07:46,480 as an executive at the Lakers... 1427 01:07:47,689 --> 01:07:49,149 can't be matched. 1428 01:07:49,232 --> 01:07:51,193 As long as there's an organization, 1429 01:07:51,276 --> 01:07:53,695 Jerry West will be with it. When he's no longer here, 1430 01:07:53,779 --> 01:07:56,448 we'll probably throw away the organization. 1431 01:07:57,741 --> 01:07:59,868 [Jerry] Now all of a sudden, I had a chance 1432 01:07:59,951 --> 01:08:02,579 to run the Lakers through my eyes. 1433 01:08:04,039 --> 01:08:07,834 We had Abdul-Jabbar back there who was anchoring our defense, 1434 01:08:07,918 --> 01:08:10,796 and certainly adding Earvin Johnson 1435 01:08:10,879 --> 01:08:13,423 to that group was special. 1436 01:08:13,507 --> 01:08:14,883 Yeah, the first time I met him, 1437 01:08:14,966 --> 01:08:17,969 was actually when I flew to Los Angeles 1438 01:08:18,053 --> 01:08:21,223 to really talk about the possibility of me 1439 01:08:21,305 --> 01:08:23,934 coming out of school and the Lakers drafting me, 1440 01:08:24,017 --> 01:08:28,438 and I was in awe to be able to shake his hand, to meet him. 1441 01:08:28,522 --> 01:08:29,898 I was calling everybody. 1442 01:08:29,981 --> 01:08:32,859 I said, "Man, I just had lunch with Jerry West. 1443 01:08:32,943 --> 01:08:34,486 -I met with him," You know? -[Kenya laughs] 1444 01:08:34,569 --> 01:08:37,154 Okay, so there's a question I've been dying to ask you. 1445 01:08:37,238 --> 01:08:38,657 Something I heard throughout the years, you know, 1446 01:08:38,740 --> 01:08:39,991 about you and Magic. 1447 01:08:40,075 --> 01:08:43,578 You-- they were like, you didn't know if you wanted Magic. 1448 01:08:43,662 --> 01:08:44,912 Is that true? 1449 01:08:44,996 --> 01:08:46,331 [Jerry] Oh, gosh, no. 1450 01:08:46,413 --> 01:08:48,959 A writer started this, okay? 1451 01:08:49,042 --> 01:08:50,794 A writer started it. 1452 01:08:50,877 --> 01:08:52,837 And he said he knew for a fact. 1453 01:08:53,839 --> 01:08:55,215 It wasn't true. 1454 01:08:55,298 --> 01:08:57,050 -[laughs] -It wasn't true. 1455 01:08:57,133 --> 01:09:01,304 The Los Angeles Lakers select Earvin Magic Johnson. 1456 01:09:02,346 --> 01:09:04,057 [Johnson] It just means so much to me. 1457 01:09:04,140 --> 01:09:06,560 It's undescribable how much the billing means to me. 1458 01:09:06,643 --> 01:09:10,104 And, um, I would just like to have it, and I'm-- I'm gonna go get it. 1459 01:09:10,188 --> 01:09:13,191 [upbeat music playing] 1460 01:09:13,274 --> 01:09:17,319 [Jerry] Now, we needed someone to play a high-risk offense. 1461 01:09:17,404 --> 01:09:20,115 [Johnson] The biggest decision he made-- this is really something, 1462 01:09:20,198 --> 01:09:22,033 I don't know how he did this. 1463 01:09:22,117 --> 01:09:25,120 When you got Terry Cummings, Dominique Wilkins, 1464 01:09:25,203 --> 01:09:28,747 and James Worthy, and you got to pick one of 'em. 1465 01:09:28,832 --> 01:09:30,709 [all laughing] 1466 01:09:30,792 --> 01:09:33,252 All three of those guys were first-rate. 1467 01:09:33,336 --> 01:09:34,837 [announcer] For the first pick... 1468 01:09:34,921 --> 01:09:36,171 [Abdul-Jabbar] Jerry had it figured out 1469 01:09:36,256 --> 01:09:38,966 as to who was gonna be a winner and who was not. 1470 01:09:39,050 --> 01:09:40,301 James Worthy. 1471 01:09:41,136 --> 01:09:42,888 [Johnson] So, he brought another champion 1472 01:09:42,970 --> 01:09:46,099 into a championship locker room. 1473 01:09:46,182 --> 01:09:48,225 The next biggest move was to decide 1474 01:09:48,310 --> 01:09:50,185 whether to trade Norm Nixon. 1475 01:09:50,270 --> 01:09:52,063 Norm was very popular. 1476 01:09:52,147 --> 01:09:55,150 I was like, "Wow, that's-- that's a-- that's a big trade." 1477 01:09:55,233 --> 01:09:56,818 Guy's part of the fast break. 1478 01:09:56,902 --> 01:09:59,237 He's had a lot of success here in LA. 1479 01:09:59,321 --> 01:10:02,574 Dating Debbie Allen. I mean, that's star power. 1480 01:10:02,657 --> 01:10:04,784 We all thought he was-- he was wrong. 1481 01:10:04,868 --> 01:10:06,661 Norm was our boy. 1482 01:10:06,745 --> 01:10:10,749 But Jerry West said, "Mm, I-- I don't care if he popular. 1483 01:10:10,832 --> 01:10:15,378 We gotta get better and trade for Byron Scott." 1484 01:10:15,462 --> 01:10:17,005 [Byron Scott] When Jerry made the trade for me, 1485 01:10:17,088 --> 01:10:19,341 most people said it was the worst trade he ever made. 1486 01:10:19,424 --> 01:10:21,176 This man is losing it. 1487 01:10:21,259 --> 01:10:22,761 [Jerry] Some people are afraid to be criticized. 1488 01:10:22,844 --> 01:10:26,640 I'm not, because when I grew up, I was criticized all the time. 1489 01:10:26,723 --> 01:10:28,558 -[Kenya] Right. -For nothing. 1490 01:10:28,642 --> 01:10:31,478 And they can think what they-- I don't give a fuck what they think. 1491 01:10:31,561 --> 01:10:33,104 I don't. I could care less. 1492 01:10:33,188 --> 01:10:34,940 [Johnson] Jerry absolutely was right. 1493 01:10:35,023 --> 01:10:37,192 Byron Scott was the guy we needed. 1494 01:10:37,275 --> 01:10:39,486 [upbeat music playing] 1495 01:10:39,569 --> 01:10:41,780 And boy, we were off and running, 1496 01:10:41,863 --> 01:10:43,031 -I tell you. -[laughs] 1497 01:10:43,114 --> 01:10:46,493 โ™ช California, no doubt about it โ™ช 1498 01:10:46,576 --> 01:10:47,827 โ™ช California... 1499 01:10:47,911 --> 01:10:49,746 [Johnson laughing] 1500 01:10:49,829 --> 01:10:52,832 [Johnson] And it was full speed every single night. 1501 01:10:52,916 --> 01:10:56,795 โ™ช ...of LA, in the city... 1502 01:10:56,878 --> 01:10:58,964 And then, you know, I just started dancing. 1503 01:10:59,047 --> 01:11:03,259 You know, I was... [vocalizes] It's on now. 1504 01:11:03,343 --> 01:11:05,011 โ™ช They pop locking, whoo! โ™ช 1505 01:11:05,095 --> 01:11:08,056 [Jerry] The crowds were absolutely electric. 1506 01:11:08,139 --> 01:11:09,474 The team was beloved. 1507 01:11:10,684 --> 01:11:13,436 [Johnson] We would hit you with it so fast 1508 01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:16,815 that the crowd gave us one standing ovation. 1509 01:11:16,898 --> 01:11:18,316 By the time we came back, 1510 01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:20,527 we hit you with another 18-0 run, 1511 01:11:20,610 --> 01:11:22,946 and now they still going goo-goo ga-ga. 1512 01:11:23,989 --> 01:11:25,615 Teams would start saying, 1513 01:11:25,699 --> 01:11:29,077 "Don't go for the offensive rebound against the Lakers." 1514 01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:31,371 And we would still beat 'em down the court. 1515 01:11:31,454 --> 01:11:34,541 -[indistinct commentary] -[crowd cheering] 1516 01:11:37,127 --> 01:11:38,128 Magic... 1517 01:11:39,295 --> 01:11:42,007 And Jerry was the architect of Showtime. 1518 01:11:42,090 --> 01:11:44,509 There's no Showtime without Jerry West, 1519 01:11:44,592 --> 01:11:46,761 because he's the one who brought us all together. 1520 01:11:46,845 --> 01:11:49,264 And making sure that you understood, 1521 01:11:49,347 --> 01:11:51,349 if you come to the Lakers, 1522 01:11:51,433 --> 01:11:54,728 you gotta be about winning and you gotta be unselfish. 1523 01:11:55,854 --> 01:11:57,981 [Jerry] People have to complement each other. 1524 01:11:59,024 --> 01:12:00,400 There's nothing that beats chemistry. 1525 01:12:01,526 --> 01:12:02,944 Nothing beats chemistry. 1526 01:12:03,028 --> 01:12:07,323 You have some guys in a locker room that won't say a word. 1527 01:12:07,407 --> 01:12:09,576 All of a sudden, he'll come up with something really funny, 1528 01:12:09,659 --> 01:12:11,494 and everyone in the whole room is laughing. 1529 01:12:11,578 --> 01:12:12,996 "Where have you been?" You know? 1530 01:12:13,872 --> 01:12:17,000 Those are the things that are truly chemistry, 1531 01:12:17,083 --> 01:12:19,169 and it brings closeness to players. 1532 01:12:19,252 --> 01:12:22,464 But, as I say, I love to laugh 1533 01:12:22,547 --> 01:12:25,008 because I never did a lot of it in my life. 1534 01:12:25,091 --> 01:12:27,302 [commentator] And the Lakers also know, Tom, 1535 01:12:27,385 --> 01:12:29,262 that they-- if they're going to win the title, 1536 01:12:29,345 --> 01:12:31,264 they've gotta win it in the lair of the Celtics. 1537 01:12:31,347 --> 01:12:34,434 -[crowd cheering] -The Green will be really out in force 1538 01:12:34,517 --> 01:12:36,144 at the Boston Garden. 1539 01:12:36,227 --> 01:12:37,812 -They got to win two... -[Ryan] As a kid, 1540 01:12:37,896 --> 01:12:39,731 I had never been to Boston Garden, 1541 01:12:39,814 --> 01:12:43,068 so he arranged for he and I to go. 1542 01:12:43,151 --> 01:12:46,696 We walked into the arena and I looked at him, 1543 01:12:46,780 --> 01:12:48,573 and he was starting to panic. 1544 01:12:48,656 --> 01:12:50,075 [soft music playing] 1545 01:12:50,158 --> 01:12:52,827 And I said, you know, "Dad, what's wrong?" 1546 01:12:52,911 --> 01:12:54,954 And he said, "Ryan, I can't be in this building. 1547 01:12:55,038 --> 01:12:56,539 I have to leave right now." 1548 01:12:57,749 --> 01:12:59,250 And even as an 11-year-old, 1549 01:12:59,334 --> 01:13:01,377 it's something that always hit me. 1550 01:13:01,461 --> 01:13:03,922 And it-- it still resonates with me to this day 1551 01:13:04,005 --> 01:13:06,216 just how painful those losses were to him. 1552 01:13:08,218 --> 01:13:09,552 [upbeat music playing] 1553 01:13:09,636 --> 01:13:11,346 [commentator] And welcome to the Boston Garden, 1554 01:13:11,429 --> 01:13:14,808 which through the years, has been the home court advantage. 1555 01:13:14,891 --> 01:13:17,310 The fans here don't hope, they believe, 1556 01:13:17,393 --> 01:13:20,563 and they're already making plans for a game seven Tuesday night. 1557 01:13:20,647 --> 01:13:24,859 But inside, the Los Angeles Lakers are making other plans. 1558 01:13:24,943 --> 01:13:28,196 It's game six, and the Lakers are just one victory away 1559 01:13:28,279 --> 01:13:30,323 from a world championship and ending 1560 01:13:30,406 --> 01:13:33,368 one of the longest jinxes in the history of professional sport. 1561 01:13:33,451 --> 01:13:35,620 [Riley] In '85, all of a sudden, 1562 01:13:35,703 --> 01:13:39,833 that whole dilemma was foisted on our back, 1563 01:13:39,916 --> 01:13:41,334 that we were the team 1564 01:13:41,417 --> 01:13:45,046 that had to get rid of this Boston Celtic hex. 1565 01:13:45,130 --> 01:13:47,006 [commentator] Nothing could be sweeter for Pat Riley 1566 01:13:47,090 --> 01:13:48,675 and the Lakers to win it here. 1567 01:13:48,758 --> 01:13:52,303 Can they handle the aggressiveness and intimidation 1568 01:13:52,387 --> 01:13:55,765 and confrontation that the Celtics put on them last year? 1569 01:13:55,849 --> 01:14:00,812 Especially because we went through two real bad losses in '83 and '84. 1570 01:14:00,895 --> 01:14:03,815 [commentator] Fifteenth world championship for the Boston Celtics, 1571 01:14:03,898 --> 01:14:05,275 the best record in the league 1572 01:14:05,358 --> 01:14:07,569 beating the team with the second best record in the league. 1573 01:14:07,652 --> 01:14:10,238 [Riley] In '84, we actually choked away a championship 1574 01:14:10,321 --> 01:14:12,907 and further got pounded for it in the media. 1575 01:14:12,991 --> 01:14:15,702 Whatever happened to the Los Angeles dynasty? 1576 01:14:15,785 --> 01:14:17,287 Here's where it is, right here! 1577 01:14:17,370 --> 01:14:22,041 But in '85, I really felt comfortable and confident 1578 01:14:22,125 --> 01:14:24,627 that we could finally beat the Celtics. 1579 01:14:24,711 --> 01:14:26,629 [Jerry] The playoffs, of course, is a very special time 1580 01:14:26,713 --> 01:14:28,464 and a very nervous time, and those are the times 1581 01:14:28,548 --> 01:14:31,593 when you always feel that you need to win. 1582 01:14:31,676 --> 01:14:34,679 You need to win for your franchise to keep it growing 1583 01:14:34,762 --> 01:14:36,806 and give your fans some hope that you can beat 1584 01:14:36,890 --> 01:14:38,892 those bullies from Boston. 1585 01:14:38,975 --> 01:14:41,352 [commentator] ...continues. The tip controlled by Boston... 1586 01:14:41,436 --> 01:14:43,396 [Jerry] And I happen to remember that day very well. 1587 01:14:43,479 --> 01:14:46,524 It's my son's birthday. His name is Ryan. 1588 01:14:46,608 --> 01:14:48,276 Surprisingly, that day, 1589 01:14:48,359 --> 01:14:50,320 we had a birthday party at my house. 1590 01:14:51,487 --> 01:14:52,572 [party horn squeaking] 1591 01:14:52,655 --> 01:14:54,616 [Jerry] And we sat here in this room 1592 01:14:54,699 --> 01:14:57,202 and watched this basketball game. 1593 01:14:57,285 --> 01:14:58,661 The TV went out. 1594 01:15:00,455 --> 01:15:02,207 [Ryan] No TV reception, nothing. 1595 01:15:03,625 --> 01:15:05,084 [commentator] [on radio] They asked him, he had his... 1596 01:15:05,168 --> 01:15:08,463 [Ryan] So, he had to listen to the rest of the game on the radio. 1597 01:15:08,546 --> 01:15:10,048 [indistinct radio commentary] 1598 01:15:10,131 --> 01:15:11,716 We're trying to listen to something. 1599 01:15:11,799 --> 01:15:14,344 [Ryan] But he got to listen to Chick Hearn 1600 01:15:14,427 --> 01:15:16,012 call the rest of the game. 1601 01:15:16,095 --> 01:15:19,265 [Chick] Good. And it's 47 to 45, the Lakers trailing. 1602 01:15:19,349 --> 01:15:21,309 The Celtics have led twice. 1603 01:15:21,392 --> 01:15:23,061 [Ryan] We get behind late in the ball game. 1604 01:15:23,144 --> 01:15:25,063 That's ten for Bird, eight in this quarter. 1605 01:15:25,146 --> 01:15:26,522 The Celtics lead by two... 1606 01:15:26,606 --> 01:15:29,776 And all of a sudden, the momentum changed. 1607 01:15:29,859 --> 01:15:31,069 [commentator] If you ask Pat Riley, 1608 01:15:31,152 --> 01:15:33,279 "How would you like a nine-point lead 1609 01:15:33,363 --> 01:15:36,157 going into the fourth period and a chance to close it out, 1610 01:15:36,241 --> 01:15:37,450 he'd say, 'I'd take it.'" 1611 01:15:37,533 --> 01:15:40,453 [Jerry] And suddenly, this very hungry team 1612 01:15:40,536 --> 01:15:44,082 made all the plays a championship team has to make to win. 1613 01:15:44,165 --> 01:15:46,000 [commentator] The Lakers are winning it. 1614 01:15:46,834 --> 01:15:48,169 Three in six years. 1615 01:15:48,253 --> 01:15:50,964 LA comes to Boston and wins the world title. 1616 01:15:51,047 --> 01:15:53,716 [triumphant music playing] 1617 01:15:55,385 --> 01:15:56,594 [Jerry] That was a day, 1618 01:15:56,678 --> 01:16:00,098 that was the happiest day of my athletic life. 1619 01:16:00,932 --> 01:16:04,394 [commentator] And Red Auerbach and Alan Cohen walk off. 1620 01:16:04,477 --> 01:16:06,604 [players cheering] 1621 01:16:09,649 --> 01:16:12,068 Whoo! Yeah, it feels good. 1622 01:16:12,151 --> 01:16:13,945 [commentator] They finally snapped the jinx 1623 01:16:14,028 --> 01:16:16,823 underneath the banners of the Boston Garden. 1624 01:16:16,906 --> 01:16:18,658 Hey, look at this, huh? 1625 01:16:18,741 --> 01:16:19,784 [inaudible dialogue] 1626 01:16:19,867 --> 01:16:21,995 [Kupchak] A lot of demons were exorcized 1627 01:16:22,078 --> 01:16:24,706 when the Lakers finally beat the Celtics. 1628 01:16:24,789 --> 01:16:26,499 It can never again be said 1629 01:16:26,582 --> 01:16:29,294 that the Lakers have never beaten the Celtics. 1630 01:16:29,377 --> 01:16:31,170 -[cheering] -[players chanting] 1631 01:16:31,254 --> 01:16:33,006 It was probably the happiest day of my life, 1632 01:16:33,089 --> 01:16:34,841 even though I wasn't there. 1633 01:16:34,924 --> 01:16:36,676 And of all the years of frustration, 1634 01:16:36,759 --> 01:16:40,596 and that gave me the greatest sense of accomplishment 1635 01:16:40,680 --> 01:16:42,765 of anything I've ever done in Los Angeles. 1636 01:16:42,849 --> 01:16:46,060 It is my pleasure to be here tonight 1637 01:16:46,144 --> 01:16:49,439 to present to them their championship rings. 1638 01:16:50,356 --> 01:16:53,401 That was the one championship ring that he wore forever. 1639 01:16:53,484 --> 01:16:56,154 When I turned 25, we were out at dinner, 1640 01:16:56,237 --> 01:16:58,239 he was being very sentimental, 1641 01:16:58,323 --> 01:16:59,991 and we were talking about that day 1642 01:17:00,074 --> 01:17:02,910 and talking about me growing up, and me as a man. 1643 01:17:02,994 --> 01:17:06,831 And he gifted me that ring for my 25th birthday. 1644 01:17:07,707 --> 01:17:10,835 And it's something that I'll cherish forever. 1645 01:17:12,211 --> 01:17:16,591 [Vitti] I'm sure Jerry had a quick good feeling about the win, 1646 01:17:16,674 --> 01:17:19,594 but he was already on to the next-- the next thing. 1647 01:17:19,677 --> 01:17:21,554 In competitive sports... 1648 01:17:22,472 --> 01:17:25,266 it's the most difficult thing that you can do, 1649 01:17:25,350 --> 01:17:27,143 to try to win a championship. 1650 01:17:27,226 --> 01:17:29,354 -[upbeat music playing] -[crowd]: Five, four, 1651 01:17:29,437 --> 01:17:31,647 three, two, one! 1652 01:17:31,731 --> 01:17:33,733 [crowd cheering] 1653 01:17:34,859 --> 01:17:37,695 [commentator] Final celebration belongs here. 1654 01:17:37,779 --> 01:17:39,989 The champagne is flowing in the locker room 1655 01:17:40,073 --> 01:17:42,784 of the NBA champion Los Angeles Lakers. 1656 01:17:42,867 --> 01:17:45,078 And if you do, can you repeat? 1657 01:17:45,161 --> 01:17:46,746 [upbeat music continues] 1658 01:17:46,829 --> 01:17:50,458 [commentator] The game ends. The Lakers have won it again. 1659 01:17:50,541 --> 01:17:53,127 The Lakers are back-to-back champions. 1660 01:17:53,211 --> 01:17:55,630 The first team to do so in 19 years. 1661 01:17:55,713 --> 01:17:57,090 โ™ช We love it โ™ช 1662 01:17:59,675 --> 01:18:01,052 โ™ช We love it โ™ช 1663 01:18:02,678 --> 01:18:04,222 โ™ช I love LA โ™ช 1664 01:18:06,808 --> 01:18:08,059 โ™ช We love it โ™ชโ™ช 1665 01:18:11,687 --> 01:18:14,315 [somber music playing] 1666 01:18:16,234 --> 01:18:17,819 [Rosen] The Lakers were on their way to play 1667 01:18:17,902 --> 01:18:21,447 in a exhibition game, and I got a call saying 1668 01:18:21,531 --> 01:18:25,326 um, there's an issue with Earvin's life insurance. 1669 01:18:26,369 --> 01:18:27,995 Sorry, we can't give you any information. 1670 01:18:28,079 --> 01:18:31,707 The only one we can give information to is Earvin Johnson. 1671 01:18:31,791 --> 01:18:34,419 I then called Earvin and said, "Earvin, I got this call. 1672 01:18:34,502 --> 01:18:35,962 Um, you need to come back." 1673 01:18:36,045 --> 01:18:38,881 And I decide I can't wait in my office. 1674 01:18:38,965 --> 01:18:42,969 So, I drive to The Forum, I drive to see Jerry and Mitch, 1675 01:18:43,052 --> 01:18:45,847 and we sat there for an hour and a half. 1676 01:18:47,306 --> 01:18:48,724 What could this be? 1677 01:18:48,808 --> 01:18:51,018 You know, just running things through our head 1678 01:18:51,102 --> 01:18:54,730 like what could be go-- what could be going on, right? 1679 01:18:54,814 --> 01:18:58,484 And of course, your mind, you know, goes into bad places. 1680 01:18:58,568 --> 01:19:00,695 I pick Earvin up at the airport, 1681 01:19:00,778 --> 01:19:03,114 we drive to the doctor's office. 1682 01:19:04,449 --> 01:19:06,868 Uh, the doctor calls Earvin, um, 1683 01:19:06,951 --> 01:19:09,328 and it ended up being me into his office. 1684 01:19:09,412 --> 01:19:11,998 And, um, he gave Earvin the news, 1685 01:19:12,081 --> 01:19:14,208 the devastating news that he was HIV-positive 1686 01:19:14,292 --> 01:19:15,877 and he needs to, um... 1687 01:19:18,671 --> 01:19:20,506 he needs to retire from basketball. 1688 01:19:20,590 --> 01:19:22,508 [somber music continues] 1689 01:19:22,592 --> 01:19:24,051 [inhales sharply] 1690 01:19:24,135 --> 01:19:27,221 Um, Earvin asked a number of different questions, 1691 01:19:27,305 --> 01:19:30,099 and-- and he said, "I-- I want you to tell two people. 1692 01:19:30,183 --> 01:19:32,852 "I want you to tell Jerry West, 1693 01:19:32,935 --> 01:19:35,480 and I want you to tell Jerry Buss." 1694 01:19:35,563 --> 01:19:37,690 It was probably ten o'clock at night, 1695 01:19:37,773 --> 01:19:41,903 and I had woken up, and as I'm-- I'm passing in the hall, 1696 01:19:41,986 --> 01:19:44,447 I look downstairs, and I see my dad and Lon 1697 01:19:44,530 --> 01:19:47,742 sitting on the couch, and I said, "Why is Lon here so late?" 1698 01:19:49,160 --> 01:19:51,871 [Rosen] I remember sitting in the office Jerry and Karen had there, 1699 01:19:51,954 --> 01:19:54,874 and I remember staring at the Olympic Gold medal 1700 01:19:54,957 --> 01:19:59,045 and telling Jerry... what we just learned. 1701 01:20:00,004 --> 01:20:02,715 And Jerry was devastated. 1702 01:20:02,798 --> 01:20:04,592 Earvin meant so much to him. 1703 01:20:04,675 --> 01:20:06,177 [Kenya] I don't know if you know this story, 1704 01:20:06,260 --> 01:20:09,138 but when you announced, made the announcement, 1705 01:20:09,222 --> 01:20:13,851 Lon Rosen the night before had come, um, to Jerry's house 1706 01:20:13,935 --> 01:20:15,311 -Mm. -[Kenya] ...and you know, 1707 01:20:15,394 --> 01:20:16,938 told Jerry what was gonna happen. 1708 01:20:17,021 --> 01:20:20,191 Jerry's wife was so-- the kids were so, you know, 1709 01:20:20,274 --> 01:20:21,692 enraptured with you and loved you. 1710 01:20:21,776 --> 01:20:23,069 She went and took them out of school. 1711 01:20:23,152 --> 01:20:24,195 Mm. 1712 01:20:24,278 --> 01:20:26,197 And we have the clip of that? 1713 01:20:27,323 --> 01:20:29,367 Um, it's really interesting. 1714 01:20:29,450 --> 01:20:31,118 -[indistinct chatter] -Mm-hmm. 1715 01:20:31,202 --> 01:20:35,873 [Karen] [on screen] Jerry had gone to a meeting with the doctor, 1716 01:20:35,957 --> 01:20:39,627 and I'll never forget, he came home... 1717 01:20:41,921 --> 01:20:46,175 and he-- he went right into his bathroom and just sobbed. 1718 01:20:47,301 --> 01:20:51,180 And, I-I mean, I-- it was the first time really 1719 01:20:51,264 --> 01:20:52,723 that I'd ever seen him cry. 1720 01:20:52,807 --> 01:20:55,977 And he was just, um... It was very difficult. 1721 01:20:57,061 --> 01:20:58,896 And I'll never forget, I-I heard it, 1722 01:20:58,980 --> 01:21:03,109 and I raced out of the house, and-- and I was in tears and I said, 1723 01:21:03,192 --> 01:21:05,236 "I've gotta get to school. I've gotta get the kids." 1724 01:21:05,319 --> 01:21:07,697 I didn't want them to hear it at school, 1725 01:21:07,780 --> 01:21:10,408 because by then, it was-- it was getting out. 1726 01:21:14,120 --> 01:21:17,373 My mom comes bursting into the classroom 1727 01:21:17,456 --> 01:21:20,084 hysterically crying, and my first thought was 1728 01:21:20,167 --> 01:21:21,919 a family member died, my father died. 1729 01:21:22,003 --> 01:21:23,921 Something tragic happened. 1730 01:21:24,005 --> 01:21:25,631 We went to my parents' house, 1731 01:21:25,715 --> 01:21:27,717 and we watched the announcement on TV. 1732 01:21:27,800 --> 01:21:31,887 [newscaster] From the NBA to Wall Street, to Capitol Hill, 1733 01:21:31,971 --> 01:21:34,307 to neighborhoods, to playgrounds, 1734 01:21:34,390 --> 01:21:37,518 shock waves from Magic Johnson's stunning announcement 1735 01:21:37,602 --> 01:21:40,688 that he has the virus that causes AIDS. 1736 01:21:40,771 --> 01:21:42,273 I just want to make clear, first of all, 1737 01:21:42,356 --> 01:21:45,026 that I do not have the AIDS disease, 1738 01:21:45,109 --> 01:21:48,321 'cause I know a lot of you I guess want to know that, 1739 01:21:48,404 --> 01:21:50,197 but the HIV virus. 1740 01:21:50,281 --> 01:21:53,576 [Rosen] I remember the press conference that we had at The Forum. 1741 01:21:53,659 --> 01:21:55,244 [Magic] She's fine, she's negative... 1742 01:21:56,245 --> 01:21:58,539 Just seeing the look in Jerry's eyes. 1743 01:21:58,623 --> 01:22:02,043 Well, obviously, this comes as a huge shock to us, um... 1744 01:22:03,294 --> 01:22:05,296 I think when you're trying to, um... 1745 01:22:06,297 --> 01:22:08,924 find out the condition of a player, 1746 01:22:09,008 --> 01:22:11,594 obviously, you assume that player's gonna be back. 1747 01:22:12,678 --> 01:22:15,139 And to be real candid with you, 1748 01:22:15,222 --> 01:22:17,516 um, I haven't even thought about it. 1749 01:22:17,600 --> 01:22:19,018 -[somber music playing] -[Vitti] It hit him hard. 1750 01:22:19,101 --> 01:22:22,563 You know, sometimes you'd see him... in his office, 1751 01:22:22,647 --> 01:22:26,484 it would just be dark in there with one little lamp on his desk. 1752 01:22:27,777 --> 01:22:31,864 [Johnson] The moment we had was in his office, 1753 01:22:31,947 --> 01:22:34,784 and he started crying right away. 1754 01:22:34,867 --> 01:22:37,787 And then I started crying right away, you know? 1755 01:22:38,746 --> 01:22:42,708 And, um, we've always had that type of relationship. 1756 01:22:42,792 --> 01:22:45,544 He just hugged me and, uh... 1757 01:22:46,837 --> 01:22:50,883 and really told me how he loved me, 1758 01:22:50,966 --> 01:22:55,680 and-- and, uh, "They say everything should be okay." 1759 01:22:55,763 --> 01:22:57,848 We really want what's best for him. 1760 01:22:57,932 --> 01:23:00,935 Uh, there's a life after basketball for Earvin Johnson 1761 01:23:01,018 --> 01:23:03,312 and we want him to go on with his life 1762 01:23:03,396 --> 01:23:06,273 and lead a healthy, successful life, 1763 01:23:06,357 --> 01:23:09,402 and, uh, which frankly it didn't look like he could do. 1764 01:23:09,485 --> 01:23:13,781 The relationship that Earvin had with Jerry helped him get well. 1765 01:23:13,864 --> 01:23:17,535 There wasn't a moment where Jerry wasn't on his side 1766 01:23:17,618 --> 01:23:20,371 and wasn't afraid to talk to him, and wasn't afraid to hug him, 1767 01:23:20,454 --> 01:23:22,289 and wasn't afraid to be around him. 1768 01:23:22,373 --> 01:23:26,919 To be here 32 years later, you need a support system. 1769 01:23:27,002 --> 01:23:30,548 And Jerry was a major, major support system. 1770 01:23:31,674 --> 01:23:33,467 [Jerry] How you treat your people really matters. 1771 01:23:33,551 --> 01:23:36,554 I took an interest. They just weren't players. 1772 01:23:36,637 --> 01:23:38,806 -[Kenya] Yeah. -And it's important to me. 1773 01:23:38,889 --> 01:23:40,808 And, you know, a lot of people hear you talk, 1774 01:23:40,891 --> 01:23:43,144 and, "Oh, that's bullshit." Well, it's not. 1775 01:23:43,227 --> 01:23:45,855 I know how I feel about people. 1776 01:23:45,938 --> 01:23:48,232 I know how I care about people. 1777 01:23:50,359 --> 01:23:52,361 [pen scratching] 1778 01:23:57,950 --> 01:24:00,286 [Vitti] The Lakers were like the Roman Empire. 1779 01:24:00,369 --> 01:24:02,705 You had those championship years 1780 01:24:02,788 --> 01:24:04,582 and then we went into the Dark Ages. 1781 01:24:04,665 --> 01:24:06,792 -[dramatic music playing] -[commentator] And the Lakers are really 1782 01:24:06,876 --> 01:24:08,878 in a cold slump right now. 1783 01:24:08,961 --> 01:24:10,504 [commentator 2] Lakers hit rock bottom, 1784 01:24:10,588 --> 01:24:13,257 missing the playoffs for the first time in 18 years. 1785 01:24:13,340 --> 01:24:16,302 [Jerry] Everyone had written us off. Everyone. 1786 01:24:16,385 --> 01:24:19,096 And I knew if we worked hard enough... 1787 01:24:20,097 --> 01:24:21,682 if we did the right things, 1788 01:24:21,766 --> 01:24:23,309 that we were gonna be very competitive, 1789 01:24:23,392 --> 01:24:25,770 and we can do this, and we will do it again. 1790 01:24:25,853 --> 01:24:27,855 And then we came back and we had the Renaissance. 1791 01:24:27,938 --> 01:24:30,316 -[upbeat music playing] -[crowd cheering] 1792 01:24:34,195 --> 01:24:37,323 Would you say that that, as a executive, 1793 01:24:37,406 --> 01:24:41,535 that Shaq-Kobe was your sort of... 1794 01:24:42,870 --> 01:24:44,538 greatest moment? 1795 01:24:44,622 --> 01:24:45,998 Well, for me, it was the most exciting. 1796 01:24:46,081 --> 01:24:47,875 You know, we wanted to reach for the moon. 1797 01:24:48,834 --> 01:24:51,837 [Kupchak] The first part of that summer was the first workout 1798 01:24:51,921 --> 01:24:55,257 with Kobe by himself with Jerry in a gym. 1799 01:24:55,341 --> 01:24:58,385 And Jerry was just like really, really excited. 1800 01:24:58,469 --> 01:25:01,931 [Thorn] I remember getting a call from Jerry, and he said, 1801 01:25:02,014 --> 01:25:04,391 "I just worked out this high school kid 1802 01:25:04,475 --> 01:25:05,976 from Pennsylvania, Kobe Bryant. 1803 01:25:06,060 --> 01:25:08,354 He's the best player I've ever worked out, 1804 01:25:08,437 --> 01:25:09,897 and I have to get him." 1805 01:25:09,980 --> 01:25:11,816 All we knew about Kobe Bryant at that time 1806 01:25:11,899 --> 01:25:14,318 was he was playing high school ball. 1807 01:25:14,401 --> 01:25:16,904 Jerry saw it. I didn't. 1808 01:25:16,987 --> 01:25:21,450 I saw a 17-year-old kid trying to mimic Michael Jordan 1809 01:25:21,534 --> 01:25:23,202 but wasn't Michael Jordan. 1810 01:25:23,285 --> 01:25:27,289 Everybody is saying, well, it may take him a couple years, 1811 01:25:27,373 --> 01:25:30,584 but Jerry West said, "Mm-mm, this guy named Kobe Bryant, 1812 01:25:30,668 --> 01:25:33,379 he gonna be a superstar in this league." 1813 01:25:33,462 --> 01:25:38,759 [Vitti] Jerry really believed in this 17-year-old kid so much, 1814 01:25:38,843 --> 01:25:43,764 that he traded Vlade Divac to get him. 1815 01:25:43,848 --> 01:25:49,687 Vlade was a legitimate, great, talented center. 1816 01:25:49,770 --> 01:25:51,772 [Scott] If you're gonna make a trade like he was making 1817 01:25:51,856 --> 01:25:54,525 with Kobe for Vlade Divac, you gotta be right. 1818 01:25:55,609 --> 01:25:56,694 You got to be right. 1819 01:25:56,777 --> 01:25:58,028 'Cause if you're wrong, you just set 1820 01:25:58,112 --> 01:25:59,822 the whole franchise back, you know, 1821 01:25:59,905 --> 01:26:01,407 three, four, five years 1822 01:26:01,490 --> 01:26:05,661 [Vlade Divac] Back then, I was upset, you know, and I didn't like it, 1823 01:26:05,744 --> 01:26:08,873 but I trust Jerry that he s-- he saw something 1824 01:26:08,956 --> 01:26:10,624 that nobody see it before. 1825 01:26:10,708 --> 01:26:13,210 And Kobe, uh, this is for you. 1826 01:26:13,294 --> 01:26:14,837 -Thank you very much. -[camera shutter clicks] 1827 01:26:14,920 --> 01:26:17,631 When I became a GM, I would trade myself for Kobe Bryant. 1828 01:26:17,715 --> 01:26:20,217 -[laughs] -So, he did good decision. 1829 01:26:21,927 --> 01:26:24,889 But now, we got a 17-year-old, and we don't have a center. 1830 01:26:24,972 --> 01:26:27,558 [upbeat music playing] 1831 01:26:28,475 --> 01:26:30,477 [commentator] Shaquille O'Neal has exploded onto the scene 1832 01:26:30,561 --> 01:26:32,688 and taken a place alongside Jordan 1833 01:26:32,771 --> 01:26:35,524 as perhaps the NBA's two most popular players. 1834 01:26:35,608 --> 01:26:38,944 Shaquille O'Neal became a free agent unexpectedly. 1835 01:26:40,321 --> 01:26:42,281 [crowd cheering] 1836 01:26:42,364 --> 01:26:43,908 [Jerry] For Shaquille O'Neal, 1837 01:26:43,991 --> 01:26:47,036 he just intimidated every player he played. 1838 01:26:48,037 --> 01:26:49,747 [commentator] Oh, my goodness! 1839 01:26:49,830 --> 01:26:52,041 He went flying through the air. 1840 01:26:52,124 --> 01:26:54,126 He would dunk them out of the game. 1841 01:26:54,209 --> 01:26:55,920 [commentator] You ever see a man that big fly? 1842 01:26:56,003 --> 01:26:57,296 He'd destroy their soul. 1843 01:26:57,379 --> 01:26:59,840 He would destroy a team's soul. 1844 01:26:59,924 --> 01:27:01,717 -[gantry crashes] -[crowd cheering] 1845 01:27:03,594 --> 01:27:06,138 We maxed out with what we could offer him, 1846 01:27:06,221 --> 01:27:08,641 and then Orlando jumped in front of us 1847 01:27:08,724 --> 01:27:10,100 with what they could offer him. 1848 01:27:10,184 --> 01:27:14,855 So, we had to make the offer to top Orlando's offer. 1849 01:27:14,939 --> 01:27:17,566 Every day, you know, they thought that they were gonna get him. 1850 01:27:17,650 --> 01:27:19,568 The next day, something would happen 1851 01:27:19,652 --> 01:27:21,153 and they didn't feel like they were gonna get him. 1852 01:27:21,236 --> 01:27:23,948 It was an emotional roller coaster for him, for sure. 1853 01:27:24,031 --> 01:27:25,950 The pursuit of Shaquille O'Neal 1854 01:27:26,033 --> 01:27:27,284 was the most difficult thing. 1855 01:27:27,368 --> 01:27:29,745 You know, there was a bunch of free agents out there, 1856 01:27:29,828 --> 01:27:31,830 and everyone had a lot of money to spend. 1857 01:27:31,914 --> 01:27:34,959 [upbeat rap music playing] 1858 01:27:37,586 --> 01:27:40,547 [O'Neal] I'm in a strip club by the name of Magic City, 1859 01:27:40,631 --> 01:27:42,508 partying, having a good time, 1860 01:27:42,591 --> 01:27:44,426 and I had the big dope man phone, 1861 01:27:44,510 --> 01:27:46,512 -and it just keeps going off. -[Kenya] [laughs] The brick! 1862 01:27:46,595 --> 01:27:48,555 I had the brick phone, it keeps going off. 1863 01:27:48,639 --> 01:27:51,350 -[phone chiming] -It was my agent, Leonard Armato. 1864 01:27:51,433 --> 01:27:52,977 "Jerry West wants to meet you." 1865 01:27:53,060 --> 01:27:54,687 I was like, "Okay, set it up for tomorrow." 1866 01:27:54,770 --> 01:27:56,021 "No, now". 1867 01:27:56,105 --> 01:27:57,982 It's 3:00 a.m., keep in mind. 1868 01:27:58,065 --> 01:27:59,483 I was like, "What do you mean now?" 1869 01:27:59,566 --> 01:28:01,485 "We got something you want." 1870 01:28:01,568 --> 01:28:03,654 And he wouldn't tell me, and I was like, "But my man, I'm--" 1871 01:28:03,737 --> 01:28:05,781 He's like, "No, you need to get over here." 1872 01:28:05,864 --> 01:28:07,783 Up until that moment, you know, 1873 01:28:07,866 --> 01:28:09,827 I don't think Jerry really believed we were gonna get him. 1874 01:28:11,161 --> 01:28:12,496 -[O'Neal] In a hotel... -[elevator bell dings] 1875 01:28:12,579 --> 01:28:13,789 ...go to the penthouse, 1876 01:28:13,872 --> 01:28:17,251 ...and Mr. West has on this Versace robe and he's smiling, 1877 01:28:17,334 --> 01:28:19,670 and he says, "Shaquille O'Neal, I know you don't know me, 1878 01:28:19,753 --> 01:28:22,089 but I'm gonna get you what you want." 1879 01:28:22,172 --> 01:28:24,717 When he slapped that piece of paper down, 1880 01:28:24,800 --> 01:28:27,136 never seen so many zeroes in my life. 1881 01:28:27,219 --> 01:28:28,679 And I was like... 1882 01:28:28,762 --> 01:28:31,432 And he was smart, he said, "But you got to sign right now." 1883 01:28:31,515 --> 01:28:33,892 So, when the great Mr. Jerry West came 1884 01:28:33,976 --> 01:28:36,311 and said, "We got you," I signed. 1885 01:28:36,395 --> 01:28:39,148 Shaquille, uh, I'm gonna present you with your new jersey 1886 01:28:39,231 --> 01:28:41,525 -and also a hat. -[audience applauds] 1887 01:28:41,608 --> 01:28:43,944 It was just a masterpiece, you know, 1888 01:28:44,028 --> 01:28:47,823 that somebody can make a decision on a 17-year-old 1889 01:28:47,906 --> 01:28:49,742 and then at the same time, you know, 1890 01:28:49,825 --> 01:28:52,119 get a 24-year-old All Star in Shaquille O'Neal. 1891 01:28:52,202 --> 01:28:54,913 It was just a master stroke of genius. 1892 01:28:54,997 --> 01:28:57,207 That relationship that you fostered. 1893 01:28:57,291 --> 01:29:00,878 -Two alphas. -[chuckles] Very, yeah. Alpha, at least. 1894 01:29:00,961 --> 01:29:02,880 -[Kenya] [laughs] Exactly! -Alpha, at least. 1895 01:29:04,423 --> 01:29:06,967 [Johnson] The hardest thing when you got two young guys 1896 01:29:07,051 --> 01:29:10,220 who got egos is to make sure that they understand 1897 01:29:10,304 --> 01:29:12,681 they need each other to be successful. 1898 01:29:12,765 --> 01:29:15,517 [Kupchak] Players of that stature, a lot of their makeup is similar. 1899 01:29:15,601 --> 01:29:19,897 Like, they're both impatient, both opinionated, 1900 01:29:19,980 --> 01:29:21,857 obsessively competitive. 1901 01:29:21,940 --> 01:29:24,985 [Cooper] You got a young kid who is ready to rear his head up 1902 01:29:25,069 --> 01:29:26,653 and be the leader of the team. 1903 01:29:26,737 --> 01:29:28,822 You had Shaq who felt no one could win 1904 01:29:28,906 --> 01:29:31,575 because he's the biggest, baddest dude on the planet Earth. 1905 01:29:31,658 --> 01:29:33,660 The kid and I were similar. 1906 01:29:33,744 --> 01:29:36,455 I want it, I want it now. This is my shit. 1907 01:29:37,247 --> 01:29:40,375 That's where the friction, you know, started to come in play. 1908 01:29:40,459 --> 01:29:42,711 [Johnson] Shaq wanted that ball down low. 1909 01:29:42,795 --> 01:29:45,297 Kobe said, "Uh-uh, I'm taking this jump shot." 1910 01:29:45,380 --> 01:29:47,508 I think that Jerry was really good at getting them both 1911 01:29:47,591 --> 01:29:49,885 sort of the equilibrium to line up. 1912 01:29:49,968 --> 01:29:51,845 Yeah, and being the peacemaker between them. 1913 01:29:51,929 --> 01:29:54,348 -Yes. -Because they both like winning. 1914 01:29:54,431 --> 01:29:57,768 [Cooper] One of the things that Jerry West has always been great at 1915 01:29:57,851 --> 01:30:01,438 is his ability to squash inter-team turmoil. 1916 01:30:02,147 --> 01:30:04,191 [O'Neal] He would let us try to figure it out. 1917 01:30:04,274 --> 01:30:06,652 Then it got to a boiling point. 1918 01:30:06,735 --> 01:30:09,530 It'd be out here, come back in. 1919 01:30:09,613 --> 01:30:11,448 Uh-oh, got to go to the principal's office. 1920 01:30:11,532 --> 01:30:13,408 [Johnson] If two guys had a problem, 1921 01:30:13,492 --> 01:30:15,619 you gonna be meeting with Jerry West, both of you, 1922 01:30:15,702 --> 01:30:18,163 and he gonna squash it right away. 1923 01:30:18,247 --> 01:30:20,207 "Alright, say what you want to say, both of you. 1924 01:30:20,290 --> 01:30:22,960 "Okay, now when we leave here, I don't want to hear nothing." 1925 01:30:23,043 --> 01:30:24,878 And he said it in some different words. 1926 01:30:24,962 --> 01:30:27,548 [all laughing] 1927 01:30:28,465 --> 01:30:29,800 Jerry West. 1928 01:30:29,883 --> 01:30:32,511 I thought at one time, Jerry West was from the hood. 1929 01:30:32,594 --> 01:30:34,388 [all laughing] 1930 01:30:34,471 --> 01:30:36,849 [Johnson] Finally, he worked it out with 'em. 1931 01:30:37,933 --> 01:30:40,853 [O'Neal] He helped me with patience with the kid. 1932 01:30:40,936 --> 01:30:42,354 So, our compromise was, 1933 01:30:42,437 --> 01:30:45,983 give me the ball, let me dominate. 1934 01:30:46,066 --> 01:30:48,527 Fourth quarter is yours. And it worked. 1935 01:30:48,610 --> 01:30:51,029 [commentator] Shaq double-teamed, back to Kobe, 1936 01:30:51,113 --> 01:30:52,156 fires a three. 1937 01:30:52,239 --> 01:30:54,491 Looking for Shaq. He takes it in deep. 1938 01:30:54,575 --> 01:30:56,368 -Kobe finds Shaq. -[whistle blows] 1939 01:30:56,451 --> 01:30:58,745 [Jerry] When those two guys played together, 1940 01:30:58,829 --> 01:31:02,416 it was a combination that was kinda scary. 1941 01:31:02,499 --> 01:31:05,169 [commentator] Kobe. Hands it inside to O'Neal. 1942 01:31:05,252 --> 01:31:08,505 Kobe Bryant flips it to Shaq who has... [indistinct] 1943 01:31:08,589 --> 01:31:10,799 [Riley] That trade that he made for Kobe, 1944 01:31:10,883 --> 01:31:13,468 and then getting Shaq that same year 1945 01:31:13,552 --> 01:31:16,388 is what built that championship team. 1946 01:31:16,471 --> 01:31:19,141 [commentator] Reggie defending. Kobe finds Shaq. 1947 01:31:19,224 --> 01:31:20,684 Kobe Bryant. 1948 01:31:20,767 --> 01:31:22,477 Off the rim, and the Lakers... 1949 01:31:23,395 --> 01:31:26,273 are the 2000 NBA champions. 1950 01:31:26,356 --> 01:31:28,650 [commentator 2] And the Los Angeles Lakers will make it 1951 01:31:28,734 --> 01:31:32,279 a second straight NBA crown. 1952 01:31:32,362 --> 01:31:36,408 The best all-time playoff winning percentage 1953 01:31:36,491 --> 01:31:39,036 in the history of the league. 1954 01:31:39,119 --> 01:31:41,955 [commentator 3] The Los Angeles Lakers have made it 1955 01:31:42,039 --> 01:31:45,792 three straight NBA championships. 1956 01:31:47,878 --> 01:31:51,089 They wrap it up in the four-game sweep. 1957 01:31:51,173 --> 01:31:54,051 Kobe Bryant coming up big in the fourth. 1958 01:31:54,134 --> 01:31:56,678 Shaq, 34 points, two rebounds. 1959 01:31:56,762 --> 01:31:58,180 [indistinct chatter] 1960 01:31:58,263 --> 01:32:01,683 [Rosen] But Jerry was getting itchy. He wanted something more. 1961 01:32:01,767 --> 01:32:03,852 He called me and said, "I'm done, I'm retiring." 1962 01:32:03,936 --> 01:32:07,272 And I was like, "Yeah, right." "No, I'm re-- I'm-- today." 1963 01:32:08,315 --> 01:32:11,026 I would never want to do anything to hurt this franchise. 1964 01:32:11,109 --> 01:32:12,986 This franchise has been 1965 01:32:13,070 --> 01:32:14,821 the most special thing in the world for me. 1966 01:32:14,905 --> 01:32:17,699 It's just hard to imagine what my life would be without it. 1967 01:32:17,783 --> 01:32:20,911 I-- I need to get away from this game for a while. I do. 1968 01:32:20,994 --> 01:32:22,579 There's no question. 1969 01:32:22,663 --> 01:32:24,289 And that was it. 1970 01:32:28,001 --> 01:32:31,255 [rumbling] 1971 01:32:33,507 --> 01:32:35,676 [Jerry] Pull over in this way. Oh, well. 1972 01:32:35,759 --> 01:32:37,094 If we can get off here, I'll pee. 1973 01:32:38,136 --> 01:32:40,681 -[director] Here? -Go find a tree. [chuckles] 1974 01:32:40,764 --> 01:32:42,266 I don't give a shit. 1975 01:32:43,850 --> 01:32:45,435 [director] We're gonna wait in the car. 1976 01:32:45,519 --> 01:32:47,229 -Yeah, we'll... -[Jerry] Yeah. 1977 01:32:47,312 --> 01:32:48,981 [director] You don't want to film him doing this? 1978 01:32:49,064 --> 01:32:50,482 [Jerry] Hell no. Who gives a shit? 1979 01:32:50,565 --> 01:32:53,735 Jerry West is blunt honest. [laughs] 1980 01:32:53,819 --> 01:32:57,572 That's the one thing that I love about him, 1981 01:32:57,656 --> 01:33:00,492 'cause he gonna tell you just how he feels. 1982 01:33:00,575 --> 01:33:02,661 No sugarcoating it at all. 1983 01:33:02,744 --> 01:33:05,330 He wears it on his sleeves, man. He's intense. 1984 01:33:06,290 --> 01:33:09,126 But if you know basketball, if you know Jerry, 1985 01:33:09,209 --> 01:33:12,379 really what it boils down to, he just wants to fucking win. 1986 01:33:12,462 --> 01:33:16,550 It's no different than when he was a player or playing golf. 1987 01:33:16,633 --> 01:33:19,261 -[upbeat music playing] -[reporter] Bel Air Country Club. 1988 01:33:19,344 --> 01:33:21,305 When West is not at The Forum or at home, 1989 01:33:21,388 --> 01:33:22,723 you can find him here. 1990 01:33:22,806 --> 01:33:24,016 This used to be escape. 1991 01:33:24,099 --> 01:33:27,311 Now it's-- it's gotten to be a lot easier for me mentally. 1992 01:33:27,394 --> 01:33:29,396 I-I don't get as upset with it as I used to. 1993 01:33:30,355 --> 01:33:33,483 Don't let his humbleness fool you. Okay? 1994 01:33:33,567 --> 01:33:34,818 Yes, he is humble. 1995 01:33:34,901 --> 01:33:38,739 But put him on the golf course, and it changes. 1996 01:33:38,822 --> 01:33:42,701 [Jordan] Golf, you know, we-- we learned not to compete against each other. 1997 01:33:42,784 --> 01:33:44,953 -[Kenya] Why? Why you say that? -Just because I-- I think 1998 01:33:45,037 --> 01:33:47,372 we didn't want to ruin the relationship that we had. 1999 01:33:47,456 --> 01:33:48,874 -[laughs] -[Jordan] Let's-- you know, 2000 01:33:48,957 --> 01:33:50,709 -let's just be teammates. -[Kenya] Yeah. 2001 01:33:50,792 --> 01:33:53,045 Oh, my God, it's absolutely ridiculous. 2002 01:33:53,128 --> 01:33:54,421 Like... [chuckles] 2003 01:33:54,504 --> 01:33:56,298 He is so good. I mean, you can tell. 2004 01:33:56,381 --> 01:33:58,800 I mean, he has such great feel around the greens. 2005 01:33:58,884 --> 01:34:01,720 He is competitive as hell, and he always wins money. 2006 01:34:01,803 --> 01:34:03,889 He never loses money on the golf course. 2007 01:34:03,972 --> 01:34:05,349 [Kupchak] I was just starting, right? 2008 01:34:05,432 --> 01:34:07,017 He introduced me to the game, and he hit a ball 2009 01:34:07,100 --> 01:34:08,226 down the fairway, right? 2010 01:34:08,310 --> 01:34:10,479 And we're looking for the ball for, like, 20 minutes. 2011 01:34:10,562 --> 01:34:14,274 So finally, he had to drop a ball, and he was pissed. 2012 01:34:14,358 --> 01:34:16,651 -[Kenya laughing] -[Kupchak] And he's playing by himself. 2013 01:34:16,735 --> 01:34:18,862 But he got so upset with himself 2014 01:34:18,945 --> 01:34:20,655 that he couldn't find the ball. 2015 01:34:20,739 --> 01:34:22,866 When he hates losing, uh, he-- he shows it. 2016 01:34:22,949 --> 01:34:26,703 -[whistle blows frantically] -[crowd roars] 2017 01:34:26,787 --> 01:34:30,665 [Worthy] Not too many athletes can get to that assassination level, 2018 01:34:30,749 --> 01:34:33,752 but a GM to be that way. 2019 01:34:33,835 --> 01:34:35,128 And it was around the clock. 2020 01:34:37,005 --> 01:34:40,092 [Rosen] I think it was probably 2001. 2021 01:34:40,967 --> 01:34:43,637 I said, "Jerry, why don't you go back to work?" 2022 01:34:43,720 --> 01:34:45,222 "Well, who's gonna want me?" 2023 01:34:46,556 --> 01:34:48,642 I go, "Everybody's gonna want you." 2024 01:34:48,725 --> 01:34:50,227 And all of a sudden, boom. [snaps] 2025 01:34:50,310 --> 01:34:52,521 It was like Elvis was back. 2026 01:34:52,604 --> 01:34:54,689 -[crowd applauds] -[upbeat music playing] 2027 01:34:55,982 --> 01:34:57,984 [cheering] 2028 01:34:58,944 --> 01:35:00,612 [Jerry] Small market teams in the NBA 2029 01:35:00,695 --> 01:35:03,073 have created a special niche for themselves. 2030 01:35:03,156 --> 01:35:05,200 And I see no reason why we can't create 2031 01:35:05,283 --> 01:35:07,119 that same kind of niche here in Memphis. 2032 01:35:07,202 --> 01:35:09,788 His success in Memphis was immediate. 2033 01:35:09,871 --> 01:35:13,291 His decision-making was quick, well thought out. 2034 01:35:13,375 --> 01:35:16,044 He knew what he wanted to do, and he knew what he wanted to build. 2035 01:35:16,128 --> 01:35:17,963 This is gonna be a fun time for our players 2036 01:35:18,046 --> 01:35:20,173 because they will get better. 2037 01:35:20,257 --> 01:35:21,425 They will get better. 2038 01:35:21,508 --> 01:35:23,593 [Ryan] Before my dad worked there, 2039 01:35:23,677 --> 01:35:25,971 the first year, they won 23 games. 2040 01:35:26,054 --> 01:35:28,056 The following season, they won 50 games. 2041 01:35:28,140 --> 01:35:29,516 [commentator] The foul lines. The sw-- 2042 01:35:29,599 --> 01:35:30,767 [newscaster] The Memphis Grizzlies. 2043 01:35:30,851 --> 01:35:32,394 These are not only the good old days, 2044 01:35:32,477 --> 01:35:35,105 they look to be the start of something entirely new. 2045 01:35:35,188 --> 01:35:36,398 Believe it or not, 2046 01:35:36,481 --> 01:35:39,109 the road to the finals goes through Memphis. 2047 01:35:39,192 --> 01:35:41,736 [Kupchak] He got into the playoffs all three years. 2048 01:35:41,820 --> 01:35:43,613 [Ryan] They're a perennial playoff team 2049 01:35:43,697 --> 01:35:45,740 and they're a legit threat in the West. 2050 01:35:45,824 --> 01:35:46,992 [Rosen] He made them important. 2051 01:35:47,075 --> 01:35:48,827 He helped get an arena built there. 2052 01:35:48,910 --> 01:35:51,496 He put the Memphis Grizzlies on the map. 2053 01:35:51,580 --> 01:35:53,915 [Ryan] Winning the Executive of the Year award. 2054 01:35:53,999 --> 01:35:56,334 I believe it was Rod Thorn that joked 2055 01:35:56,418 --> 01:35:59,421 that it's almost ridiculous that they would give him the award. 2056 01:35:59,504 --> 01:36:01,089 They should name it after him. 2057 01:36:01,173 --> 01:36:05,260 But he never accepts a victory as just a victory. 2058 01:36:05,343 --> 01:36:07,345 He wants to top that victory. 2059 01:36:07,429 --> 01:36:10,390 [reporter] Seven NBA titles as a player and as executive 2060 01:36:10,474 --> 01:36:12,642 and 14 time All Star, I mean, the list goes on. 2061 01:36:12,726 --> 01:36:14,936 Why come to the Warriors? Why take on this challenge? 2062 01:36:15,020 --> 01:36:17,147 Well, another great quote. 2063 01:36:17,230 --> 01:36:19,983 Confucius said, "Find a job you love and you'll never work a day in your life." 2064 01:36:20,066 --> 01:36:22,027 I've never worked a day in my life. 2065 01:36:22,110 --> 01:36:24,654 I love to win. I hate to lose. 2066 01:36:24,738 --> 01:36:25,989 -That's why I'm here -[reporter] Alright, thank you very much. 2067 01:36:26,072 --> 01:36:28,575 They were considered one of the worst franchises in the league. 2068 01:36:28,658 --> 01:36:30,994 [Kerr] There was a 15, 16-year period 2069 01:36:31,077 --> 01:36:32,871 where the Warriors didn't make the playoffs. 2070 01:36:32,954 --> 01:36:35,957 So, who better to bring in than The Logo? 2071 01:36:36,041 --> 01:36:39,711 It was a-- a group of people that had bought the team. 2072 01:36:39,794 --> 01:36:43,423 And one gentleman, Joe Lacob, was very enthusiastic. 2073 01:36:43,507 --> 01:36:44,841 Oh, my goodness. 2074 01:36:44,925 --> 01:36:46,760 He wanted the best team in the league immediately. 2075 01:36:46,843 --> 01:36:50,096 We knew that, uh, we were gonna be pretty aggressive 2076 01:36:50,180 --> 01:36:54,017 and do some perhaps exciting but also controversial things. 2077 01:36:54,100 --> 01:36:56,895 And so, we thought Jerry West would not only be a great advisor, 2078 01:36:56,978 --> 01:36:59,981 but he would also give us what he called 2079 01:37:00,065 --> 01:37:01,608 "The Cover of Darkness." 2080 01:37:01,691 --> 01:37:04,194 [Bob Myers] He brought a level of credibility, 2081 01:37:04,277 --> 01:37:06,071 a level of seriousness. 2082 01:37:06,154 --> 01:37:08,240 He taught me never to operate out of fear, 2083 01:37:08,323 --> 01:37:09,783 which I think is an important lesson. 2084 01:37:09,866 --> 01:37:11,076 They listened to him. 2085 01:37:11,159 --> 01:37:14,329 I could see his fingerprints all over every draft pick. 2086 01:37:14,412 --> 01:37:17,290 On trades. I remember when the Iguodala trade was made, 2087 01:37:17,374 --> 01:37:18,792 I said, "That's Jerry." [chuckles] 2088 01:37:18,875 --> 01:37:22,587 He's very, uh, meticulous on how he wants to see the game 2089 01:37:22,671 --> 01:37:23,922 or how it should be played. 2090 01:37:24,005 --> 01:37:26,841 Very constructive in his criticism. 2091 01:37:26,925 --> 01:37:28,593 He's constantly providing his insight, 2092 01:37:28,677 --> 01:37:30,345 and he's just looking for his next win. 2093 01:37:30,428 --> 01:37:32,514 You know, they had some really good pieces. 2094 01:37:32,597 --> 01:37:36,601 Steph Curry, who is one of the most unique players I've ever seen. 2095 01:37:36,685 --> 01:37:38,687 [commentator] Here's Curry. He turns, 2096 01:37:38,770 --> 01:37:40,105 -and he hits! -[commentator 2] We have a time out. 2097 01:37:40,188 --> 01:37:41,648 [commentator] ...decide not to use it. Curry. 2098 01:37:41,731 --> 01:37:44,401 Right on top. Bang! Bang! 2099 01:37:44,484 --> 01:37:47,028 [Jerry] You know, people look at him, this little baby face. 2100 01:37:47,112 --> 01:37:48,905 Well, that baby face is an assassin. 2101 01:37:48,989 --> 01:37:50,407 [Kenya] [laughs] Killer. 2102 01:37:50,490 --> 01:37:52,784 [Jerry] And Draymond Green, he's a tremendous player, 2103 01:37:52,867 --> 01:37:55,745 because he does the little dirty work thing. 2104 01:37:55,829 --> 01:37:57,789 Klay Thompson, who I absolutely loved, 2105 01:37:57,872 --> 01:37:59,541 I just thought he was great. 2106 01:37:59,624 --> 01:38:01,293 Team just fit together. 2107 01:38:01,376 --> 01:38:03,169 [commentator] Klay Thompson, another triple! 2108 01:38:03,253 --> 01:38:05,714 [Jerry] We killed teams on the board. 2109 01:38:05,797 --> 01:38:07,132 [crowd cheering] 2110 01:38:07,215 --> 01:38:09,467 But they were thinking about making a trade. 2111 01:38:09,551 --> 01:38:11,553 A potential blockbuster trade 2112 01:38:11,636 --> 01:38:13,805 is about to go down in the Western Conference. 2113 01:38:13,888 --> 01:38:16,141 The Warriors and the Timberwolves are working on a deal 2114 01:38:16,224 --> 01:38:18,268 that would send Kevin Love to Golden State 2115 01:38:18,351 --> 01:38:20,729 in exchange for Klay Thompson in their 20... 2116 01:38:20,812 --> 01:38:23,565 [Lacob] You know, we had a lot of discussions internally. 2117 01:38:23,648 --> 01:38:25,317 You know, Jerry was a big Klay Thompson fan 2118 01:38:25,400 --> 01:38:26,443 from the beginning and maintained that. 2119 01:38:26,526 --> 01:38:28,194 Remember, in the Warriors organization, 2120 01:38:28,278 --> 01:38:31,031 there's four voices who have a say at the top, 2121 01:38:31,114 --> 01:38:33,575 and not all of them agree that Klay Thompson 2122 01:38:33,658 --> 01:38:35,577 should be involved in this trade package for... 2123 01:38:35,660 --> 01:38:38,288 My dad said, like, that you can't do this trade, 2124 01:38:38,371 --> 01:38:39,998 but if you do this, I-- I'm gonna quit. 2125 01:38:40,081 --> 01:38:42,834 His conviction on what he sees 2126 01:38:42,917 --> 01:38:44,836 and the direction of where things are going 2127 01:38:44,919 --> 01:38:46,379 is so strong in those moments. 2128 01:38:46,463 --> 01:38:47,964 Jerry's a huge reason why I'm here. 2129 01:38:48,048 --> 01:38:50,967 When I heard that Jerry put his stamp of approval on me, 2130 01:38:51,051 --> 01:38:52,886 that gave me the ultimate confidence 2131 01:38:52,969 --> 01:38:54,512 when I was a young player. 2132 01:38:54,596 --> 01:38:56,556 [Jerry] They have a great situation there, 2133 01:38:56,640 --> 01:38:59,392 and it's because of really good drafting 2134 01:38:59,476 --> 01:39:01,394 and not making trades... 2135 01:39:02,354 --> 01:39:04,189 that could have been a disaster for 'em. 2136 01:39:04,272 --> 01:39:07,067 [commentator] If you're wondering what the NBA record is 2137 01:39:07,150 --> 01:39:10,070 for most points in a quarter, you just watched it. 2138 01:39:11,321 --> 01:39:15,408 And Klay Thompson, 37 in a quarter! 2139 01:39:15,492 --> 01:39:17,452 [commentator 2] This is a moment of history here. 2140 01:39:17,535 --> 01:39:19,704 [Rosen] Jerry was adamant they shouldn't get rid of that player, 2141 01:39:19,788 --> 01:39:21,122 and they didn't. 2142 01:39:21,206 --> 01:39:24,042 [commentator] What a perfect pass from Steph Curry. 2143 01:39:24,125 --> 01:39:25,710 We get style and substance. 2144 01:39:25,794 --> 01:39:27,504 Having that regular season for the agent. 2145 01:39:27,587 --> 01:39:29,631 James on Curry, spinning, 2146 01:39:29,714 --> 01:39:31,424 puts it up, puts it in! 2147 01:39:31,508 --> 01:39:33,968 [Curry] Jerry's idea of what great basketball is 2148 01:39:34,052 --> 01:39:35,303 and what a great team is, 2149 01:39:35,387 --> 01:39:36,805 it allowed us to have confidence 2150 01:39:36,888 --> 01:39:38,181 that what we were building was gonna work. 2151 01:39:38,264 --> 01:39:39,974 [commentator] And the Golden State Warriors 2152 01:39:40,058 --> 01:39:45,563 are the 2015 NBA champions, their first title in 40 years. 2153 01:39:45,647 --> 01:39:47,565 [announcer] Executive board member, 2154 01:39:47,649 --> 01:39:50,110 Hall of Famer Jerry West! 2155 01:39:50,193 --> 01:39:51,361 [crowd cheering] 2156 01:39:51,444 --> 01:39:53,405 [buzzer blares] 2157 01:39:53,488 --> 01:39:55,365 -[crowd cheering] -[commentator] The greatest regular season 2158 01:39:55,448 --> 01:39:57,409 in NBA history now belongs 2159 01:39:57,492 --> 01:40:00,370 to the 2016 Golden State Warriors, 2160 01:40:00,453 --> 01:40:02,956 73 and 9. 2161 01:40:03,039 --> 01:40:06,876 [Kevin Durant] 2016, I was in between making a decision 2162 01:40:06,960 --> 01:40:09,754 on leaving OKC to go to Golden State. 2163 01:40:09,838 --> 01:40:12,507 Jerry was on the phone with me for, like, an hour, 2164 01:40:12,590 --> 01:40:15,385 and Jerry understood that Steph, Klay, Draymond, 2165 01:40:15,468 --> 01:40:17,554 our games worked together perfectly. 2166 01:40:17,637 --> 01:40:20,181 So, he was just telling me how much I can add to it 2167 01:40:20,265 --> 01:40:23,727 and how much I can turn what they did up to another level. 2168 01:40:23,810 --> 01:40:26,521 [commentator] Celebration tonight here in Oakland. 2169 01:40:26,604 --> 01:40:27,897 There it is. 2170 01:40:27,981 --> 01:40:31,276 One of the great playoff runs of all time is complete. 2171 01:40:31,359 --> 01:40:34,529 The Warriors are NBA champions again. 2172 01:40:34,612 --> 01:40:37,323 There's a new dynasty in the NBA, 2173 01:40:37,407 --> 01:40:40,160 the Golden State Warriors, champions once again, 2174 01:40:40,243 --> 01:40:42,746 back-to-back titles, three in four years. 2175 01:40:42,829 --> 01:40:45,165 [Jerry] One of the best times I ever had in my life 2176 01:40:45,248 --> 01:40:47,000 was with the Golden State Warriors. 2177 01:40:47,083 --> 01:40:48,126 It was really fun. 2178 01:40:48,209 --> 01:40:51,963 [Kerr] Jerry had a huge impact on helping build the foundation 2179 01:40:52,046 --> 01:40:55,550 for what would become four championships 2180 01:40:55,633 --> 01:40:57,177 for this organization. 2181 01:40:57,260 --> 01:40:59,679 [upbeat music playing] 2182 01:41:04,225 --> 01:41:07,020 [Rosen] It was a successful thing for him, and then he decided, 2183 01:41:07,103 --> 01:41:08,354 "Okay, I'm done." 2184 01:41:08,438 --> 01:41:10,690 And he came back to Los Angeles. 2185 01:41:10,774 --> 01:41:13,151 [upbeat music playing] 2186 01:41:13,234 --> 01:41:15,820 The new consultant for the LA Clippers, Jerry West, 2187 01:41:15,904 --> 01:41:17,363 joins us right now, the Hall of Famer. 2188 01:41:17,447 --> 01:41:19,866 Why was this team the right choice for you 2189 01:41:19,949 --> 01:41:21,659 at this time in your career? 2190 01:41:21,743 --> 01:41:23,703 You know, here in my backyard, I started here. 2191 01:41:23,787 --> 01:41:27,207 Gives me a chance to-- to end my career here. 2192 01:41:27,290 --> 01:41:29,834 [Karen] It was an exciting time. It was a new change. 2193 01:41:29,918 --> 01:41:32,462 We're home, we don't-- he doesn't have to go anywhere. 2194 01:41:32,545 --> 01:41:35,006 And, you know, the Clippers had a new owner, 2195 01:41:35,089 --> 01:41:36,299 and it was a good thing. 2196 01:41:36,382 --> 01:41:38,176 [announcer] He doesn't really need an introduction. 2197 01:41:38,259 --> 01:41:41,179 We're really excited to-- to have Jerry here with us. 2198 01:41:41,262 --> 01:41:43,681 Thank both of you for those kind words, but, uh... 2199 01:41:43,765 --> 01:41:45,391 [Steve Ballmer] When Jerry took this consulting gig, 2200 01:41:45,475 --> 01:41:47,685 I'd been talking with my partner in the business, 2201 01:41:47,769 --> 01:41:50,897 and he kept saying, "Jeez, we should have somebody like Jerry West. 2202 01:41:50,980 --> 01:41:54,067 Jerry's done such a great job for the-- the Warriors." 2203 01:41:54,150 --> 01:41:56,653 And I said, "Well, how about Jerry West?" 2204 01:41:56,736 --> 01:41:59,155 One of the hardest things to do in the NBA 2205 01:41:59,239 --> 01:42:03,827 is to get one superstar, let alone two superstars. 2206 01:42:03,910 --> 01:42:06,996 But there are a couple vital members that had a huge part. 2207 01:42:07,080 --> 01:42:09,916 Jerry West, the greatest architect there is in the game. 2208 01:42:09,999 --> 01:42:11,793 [all cheering, applauding] 2209 01:42:11,876 --> 01:42:14,170 [Green] Jerry goes somewhere else and they immediately get 2210 01:42:14,254 --> 01:42:16,506 Kawhi Leonard and Paul George. 2211 01:42:16,589 --> 01:42:19,175 [upbeat music playing] 2212 01:42:20,426 --> 01:42:23,054 Pretty cool! Pretty damn cool! 2213 01:42:24,055 --> 01:42:25,223 Whoo! 2214 01:42:25,306 --> 01:42:26,599 [interviewer] By the way, h-how the Laker fans 2215 01:42:26,683 --> 01:42:27,892 reacting to you now? 2216 01:42:27,976 --> 01:42:29,936 You know what? I really don't know. 2217 01:42:30,019 --> 01:42:31,604 -[interviewers laugh] -He don't care. 2218 01:42:31,688 --> 01:42:35,900 Jerry being at the Clippers, for me, was hard. 2219 01:42:35,984 --> 01:42:39,904 But I'm a Jerry West man. I'm a-- I'm a fan, I'm a-- 2220 01:42:39,988 --> 01:42:45,118 I love him, so I can hate everybody but Jerry. [laughs] 2221 01:42:45,201 --> 01:42:46,870 [Rosen] At the end of the day, he's a Laker. 2222 01:42:46,953 --> 01:42:48,371 When he went to Golden State, 2223 01:42:48,454 --> 01:42:50,248 he was still Jerry West of the Lakers. 2224 01:42:50,331 --> 01:42:53,167 He's at the Clippers. He's still Jerry West of the Lakers. 2225 01:42:53,251 --> 01:42:55,336 I mean, he's Mr. Laker. 2226 01:42:55,420 --> 01:42:57,714 And we will have a friend... 2227 01:42:59,215 --> 01:43:01,718 that'll put his life on the line for you. 2228 01:43:01,801 --> 01:43:03,136 That's who Jerry West is. 2229 01:43:03,219 --> 01:43:06,097 If he your friend, he's your friend all the way, 2230 01:43:06,180 --> 01:43:08,266 and do anything for you. 2231 01:43:08,349 --> 01:43:09,559 [weather presenter] Good morning, everybody. 2232 01:43:09,642 --> 01:43:11,561 We are looking at a pretty gloomy morning 2233 01:43:11,644 --> 01:43:12,896 across the southland. 2234 01:43:12,979 --> 01:43:15,189 Patchy dense fog, low visibility. Because... 2235 01:43:15,273 --> 01:43:19,360 [Karen] I was driving home from the desert early that morning, 2236 01:43:19,444 --> 01:43:23,323 and I kept coming upon these fo-- pockets of fog and I thought, 2237 01:43:23,406 --> 01:43:25,283 "This is so unusual." 2238 01:43:25,366 --> 01:43:27,660 And by the time I got home, it was pretty foggy. 2239 01:43:27,744 --> 01:43:29,829 And Jerry and I were watching something on television, 2240 01:43:29,913 --> 01:43:31,372 I don't even remember, 2241 01:43:31,456 --> 01:43:34,459 and he got a phone call from his son, Mark. 2242 01:43:34,542 --> 01:43:37,211 And he said... "What!" 2243 01:43:37,295 --> 01:43:40,173 I heard-- you know, I heard him say, "What? Where? 2244 01:43:40,256 --> 01:43:41,633 He's dead?" 2245 01:43:42,550 --> 01:43:45,219 I was asleep, and my phone was ringing. 2246 01:43:45,970 --> 01:43:48,598 I picked up the phone, it was my dad calling. 2247 01:43:48,681 --> 01:43:50,266 And he said, "Did you hear what happened?" 2248 01:43:50,350 --> 01:43:51,768 And I said, "No, what are you talking about?" 2249 01:43:51,851 --> 01:43:54,646 -[somber music playing] -I was in Europe scouting... 2250 01:43:55,855 --> 01:43:57,732 and, uh, I was at dinner. 2251 01:43:57,815 --> 01:44:00,443 Michael sent a text like, 2252 01:44:00,526 --> 01:44:02,320 "Did you hear anything about Kobe?" 2253 01:44:04,405 --> 01:44:07,951 And, um... I said no. 2254 01:44:08,034 --> 01:44:10,703 Well, obviously, I said, "Well, I'm gonna call Jerry and find out." 2255 01:44:10,787 --> 01:44:12,288 And that's what Jerry told me. 2256 01:44:13,247 --> 01:44:15,416 [siren wailing] 2257 01:44:18,378 --> 01:44:20,380 [newscaster] We're coming on the air with breaking news. 2258 01:44:20,463 --> 01:44:23,591 Very sad news that 41-year-old Kobe Bryant 2259 01:44:23,675 --> 01:44:26,094 has been killed in a helicopter crash. 2260 01:44:26,177 --> 01:44:29,889 And we've just learned his 13-year-old daughter, Gianna, 2261 01:44:29,973 --> 01:44:33,434 was also on that helicopter, and she also died. 2262 01:44:33,518 --> 01:44:36,437 Any moment now, we are expecting to hear from the Los Angeles... 2263 01:44:36,521 --> 01:44:38,231 [somber music continues] 2264 01:44:38,314 --> 01:44:40,066 [Jerry] This is a godawful day. 2265 01:44:41,776 --> 01:44:43,736 [sighs] I'm just devastated... 2266 01:44:44,737 --> 01:44:46,948 by... this news. 2267 01:44:48,866 --> 01:44:51,452 We were mad. Both of us were mad. 2268 01:44:51,536 --> 01:44:53,830 We were absolutely angry, you know, 2269 01:44:53,913 --> 01:44:55,206 because of how it happened. 2270 01:44:55,289 --> 01:44:56,457 Not fair. 2271 01:44:57,375 --> 01:45:00,962 I think that was his attitude. Just "Why him?" 2272 01:45:01,045 --> 01:45:03,798 [Jonnie] Like, their relationship and what-- what they had, 2273 01:45:03,881 --> 01:45:05,591 for him, it's like losing a child. 2274 01:45:06,509 --> 01:45:08,720 [Karen] Jerry took Kobe under his wing. 2275 01:45:08,803 --> 01:45:11,305 We met him as a teenager, he was Ryan's age. 2276 01:45:11,389 --> 01:45:14,600 He and Ryan hung out, and at the time, Kobe didn't drive. 2277 01:45:14,684 --> 01:45:16,686 Ryan would drive him around. 2278 01:45:16,769 --> 01:45:19,313 You know, Kobe's nine months older than me. 2279 01:45:19,397 --> 01:45:22,608 I went on several road trips with the Lakers 2280 01:45:22,692 --> 01:45:24,235 when Kobe was young. 2281 01:45:24,318 --> 01:45:27,030 We would hang out in his room, play video games. 2282 01:45:27,113 --> 01:45:29,032 [Karen] Kobe would come over for dinner 2283 01:45:29,115 --> 01:45:31,576 every once in a while, and he liked my spaghetti. 2284 01:45:31,659 --> 01:45:33,536 So, really, he was part of the family. 2285 01:45:34,537 --> 01:45:36,831 Jerry and Kobe kept in contact. 2286 01:45:36,914 --> 01:45:39,125 Kobe would call him for advice. 2287 01:45:39,208 --> 01:45:41,127 They were-- they were very close. 2288 01:45:42,211 --> 01:45:44,338 [Jerry] Uh, saddest day of my life. 2289 01:45:44,422 --> 01:45:47,050 [somber music playing] 2290 01:45:47,133 --> 01:45:48,885 I lost a brother in Korea, 2291 01:45:48,968 --> 01:45:52,638 and the only thing that compares to this, to me. 2292 01:45:55,349 --> 01:45:58,436 [Kupchak] When Jerry and I spoke, he couldn't talk much. 2293 01:46:00,563 --> 01:46:01,856 He went dark. 2294 01:46:01,939 --> 01:46:05,610 You know, one of the few times that I did want to talk about something, 2295 01:46:05,693 --> 01:46:07,445 you know, he couldn't do it. 2296 01:46:08,654 --> 01:46:10,823 And he was-- I-I can't even tell you 2297 01:46:10,907 --> 01:46:12,617 how distraught we both were. 2298 01:46:12,700 --> 01:46:15,995 We became, you know, each other's comfort zones, 2299 01:46:16,079 --> 01:46:17,914 you know, to get through it all. 2300 01:46:17,997 --> 01:46:20,750 Honestly, I felt like his father for ten years. 2301 01:46:20,833 --> 01:46:22,335 [sobs] 2302 01:46:22,418 --> 01:46:24,003 [exhales] 2303 01:46:24,087 --> 01:46:26,089 [somber music continues] 2304 01:46:28,883 --> 01:46:31,344 I don't know if I can get over this. I really don't. 2305 01:46:37,308 --> 01:46:40,019 [Kenya] So, your dad was no longer with the Lakers 2306 01:46:40,103 --> 01:46:43,815 when this unimaginable tragedy happened. 2307 01:46:43,898 --> 01:46:46,067 How do you think it affected him? 2308 01:46:46,150 --> 01:46:49,112 Well, I think when you have something as tragic as that, 2309 01:46:49,195 --> 01:46:50,780 something as shocking as that, 2310 01:46:50,863 --> 01:46:53,241 you know, you always wish you had more time. 2311 01:46:53,324 --> 01:46:57,036 W-With my dad, I'm sure it probably hit him hard that he wasn't there. 2312 01:46:57,120 --> 01:46:58,955 [soft music playing] 2313 01:47:00,498 --> 01:47:04,210 [Riley] The people who were there from 1970 to 1990, 2314 01:47:04,293 --> 01:47:06,504 we all rode this thing together. 2315 01:47:06,587 --> 01:47:10,216 From 1990 to 2010, 2316 01:47:10,299 --> 01:47:13,886 there was another generation of people there. 2317 01:47:13,970 --> 01:47:17,598 There's a change. You don't have the same heartfelt emotions 2318 01:47:17,682 --> 01:47:20,518 for the people who really created something, 2319 01:47:20,601 --> 01:47:25,314 and-- and Jerry created everything from the '80s to 2000. 2320 01:47:27,150 --> 01:47:30,027 [Karen] Jerry Buss was a father figure to him. 2321 01:47:30,111 --> 01:47:33,197 And it was very disappointing to him, because in the end, 2322 01:47:33,281 --> 01:47:34,949 I don't think he was appreciated. 2323 01:47:35,950 --> 01:47:40,246 I know I'll get some criticism for this, but I say this. 2324 01:47:40,329 --> 01:47:43,791 I think it was-- history will show 2325 01:47:43,875 --> 01:47:47,044 that it was the biggest mistake the Lakers ever made 2326 01:47:47,128 --> 01:47:51,257 was to-- to allow, uh, Jerry to get away. 2327 01:47:53,634 --> 01:47:56,679 [Riley] He loved that team. He was there for 40 years. 2328 01:47:56,762 --> 01:48:00,266 And so, when Jerry left the Lakers, 2329 01:48:00,349 --> 01:48:04,979 it was probably the deepest wound, probably ever, 2330 01:48:05,062 --> 01:48:07,023 that he had to endure. 2331 01:48:13,779 --> 01:48:15,198 [crewmember] That good? 2332 01:48:15,281 --> 01:48:17,491 -[Kenya] Okay. Hey. [laughs] -Hi. [laughs] 2333 01:48:17,575 --> 01:48:20,077 Thank you so much for doing this. Honestly, that means a lot. 2334 01:48:20,161 --> 01:48:23,206 Um, there's so many banners behind you I'm looking at. 2335 01:48:23,289 --> 01:48:27,168 Um, since Jerry left, you know, it was complicated. 2336 01:48:27,251 --> 01:48:30,379 The relationship between the Lakers and-- and Jerry was complicated. 2337 01:48:30,463 --> 01:48:32,840 No one can really, truthfully-- and I've asked-- 2338 01:48:32,924 --> 01:48:35,051 nobody really can actually explain it. 2339 01:48:35,134 --> 01:48:37,094 -He spoke at your dad's funeral. -Mm-hmm. 2340 01:48:37,178 --> 01:48:39,096 He said that graveyards are full of people 2341 01:48:39,180 --> 01:48:40,806 who wish they had more time. 2342 01:48:40,890 --> 01:48:43,017 You know, and I felt like if he was here, what do you think, 2343 01:48:43,100 --> 01:48:44,894 you know, you would say to him? 2344 01:48:44,977 --> 01:48:47,521 I-- I mean, I would say, like, 2345 01:48:47,605 --> 01:48:49,899 thank you for making my job easier, 2346 01:48:49,982 --> 01:48:51,859 because what you established, 2347 01:48:51,943 --> 01:48:54,987 the-- the bar that you set with the Lakers 2348 01:48:55,071 --> 01:48:58,074 continues to feed into the player's desire 2349 01:48:58,157 --> 01:48:59,825 to come here and play. 2350 01:48:59,909 --> 01:49:03,663 You know, I remember dedicating the statue, 2351 01:49:03,746 --> 01:49:08,751 and, you know, and him being part of tying the new arena 2352 01:49:08,834 --> 01:49:13,297 to the history of the Lakers was so important. 2353 01:49:13,381 --> 01:49:16,133 [Jerry Buss] How many people have a statue made to honor them? 2354 01:49:16,217 --> 01:49:17,593 One in a million? 2355 01:49:18,803 --> 01:49:21,180 Well, Jerry's certainly one of those. 2356 01:49:21,264 --> 01:49:24,475 [Jeanie] Jerry Buss and Jerry West coming together 2357 01:49:24,558 --> 01:49:27,728 created a brand that continues. 2358 01:49:27,812 --> 01:49:29,647 Two other young ladies I've watched mature 2359 01:49:29,730 --> 01:49:32,024 and become very competent executives in their own right, 2360 01:49:32,108 --> 01:49:34,193 -who gave me great support... -[crowd applauds] 2361 01:49:35,778 --> 01:49:38,906 Laker girl Jeanie Buss, I so greatly admired. 2362 01:49:39,907 --> 01:49:43,119 I wish my dad owned the team when Jerry was still playing. 2363 01:49:43,202 --> 01:49:45,121 'cause there was probably a lot more winning 2364 01:49:45,204 --> 01:49:47,915 that would've happened instead of the frustration 2365 01:49:47,999 --> 01:49:50,918 that drove Jerry, you know, 2366 01:49:51,002 --> 01:49:53,963 losing to the Celtics so many times. 2367 01:49:54,046 --> 01:49:56,590 And the match of those two men 2368 01:49:56,674 --> 01:49:59,051 really made something special. 2369 01:49:59,135 --> 01:50:04,015 So, I am just humbled that we continue 2370 01:50:04,098 --> 01:50:05,975 to build on that legacy. 2371 01:50:06,851 --> 01:50:08,853 You know, when we're talking, 2372 01:50:08,936 --> 01:50:11,981 I-- I see 44, you know, 2373 01:50:12,064 --> 01:50:14,900 in my mind and his jersey. 2374 01:50:14,984 --> 01:50:18,446 And I mean, I-- I just-- I would want to thank him 2375 01:50:18,529 --> 01:50:21,240 for everything that he did 2376 01:50:21,324 --> 01:50:24,285 and that I continue 2377 01:50:24,368 --> 01:50:27,621 to honor his legacy 2378 01:50:27,705 --> 01:50:31,083 and what he meant to this team. 2379 01:50:31,167 --> 01:50:36,422 Because the players that are part of the Lakers now 2380 01:50:36,505 --> 01:50:39,425 are not playing for Jeanie Buss. 2381 01:50:39,508 --> 01:50:43,095 They're playing to be part of the legacy 2382 01:50:43,179 --> 01:50:47,141 Jerry West and Jerry Buss created for me 2383 01:50:47,224 --> 01:50:49,602 and my ability to do my job, 2384 01:50:49,685 --> 01:50:53,898 because they created the-- the history 2385 01:50:53,981 --> 01:50:57,360 that now is-- is the attraction 2386 01:50:57,443 --> 01:51:01,739 for the top free agent to come and sign 2387 01:51:01,822 --> 01:51:04,658 and be part of what you created. 2388 01:51:04,742 --> 01:51:08,913 You're in the fabric of what makes the Lakers the Lakers. 2389 01:51:08,996 --> 01:51:10,498 You're The Logo. 2390 01:51:10,581 --> 01:51:13,167 [gentle music playing] 2391 01:51:26,472 --> 01:51:28,349 [Ryan] I was probably six or seven 2392 01:51:28,432 --> 01:51:31,310 when it really started to make sense for me who he was. 2393 01:51:31,394 --> 01:51:33,104 There was this mysterious thing, 2394 01:51:33,187 --> 01:51:34,939 maybe it is, maybe it isn't him. 2395 01:51:35,022 --> 01:51:38,025 But it was something that the NBA would never come out 2396 01:51:38,109 --> 01:51:40,069 and officially announce that he was. 2397 01:51:40,152 --> 01:51:42,405 I know for years it's been a touchy topic 2398 01:51:42,488 --> 01:51:44,240 that, you know, Jerry West was the logo. 2399 01:51:44,323 --> 01:51:46,492 The NBA has never publicly acknowledged that 2400 01:51:46,575 --> 01:51:49,078 because of business reasons and legal reasons, I'm sure. 2401 01:51:49,161 --> 01:51:52,081 But Jerry, even when I brought it up to him, he-- he said, 2402 01:51:52,164 --> 01:51:54,208 "You know, Dan, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter." 2403 01:51:54,291 --> 01:51:55,626 [speaker] He wouldn't have asked for anything. 2404 01:51:55,709 --> 01:51:57,545 -No. -But it'd be nice if the NBA today 2405 01:51:57,628 --> 01:52:01,340 announced that this is and will be the logo. 2406 01:52:04,093 --> 01:52:05,469 [Kenya] Just to get into this, 2407 01:52:05,553 --> 01:52:08,848 what was your favorite Jerry nickname? 2408 01:52:08,931 --> 01:52:10,057 He had a few. 2409 01:52:12,017 --> 01:52:13,769 I think The Logo. 2410 01:52:13,853 --> 01:52:16,272 -We already know, The Logo. -Logo. 2411 01:52:16,355 --> 01:52:18,649 An absolute icon and The Logo. 2412 01:52:18,732 --> 01:52:19,733 Obviously, he's The Logo. 2413 01:52:19,817 --> 01:52:21,277 -He's The Logo. -Oh, absolutely. 2414 01:52:21,360 --> 01:52:22,695 [upbeat music playing] 2415 01:52:22,778 --> 01:52:25,614 [Silver] I think he and I both got a kick over the stories of, 2416 01:52:25,698 --> 01:52:28,075 was he the logo, was he not the logo? 2417 01:52:28,159 --> 01:52:30,578 I think David Stern, the consummate lawyer, 2418 01:52:30,661 --> 01:52:34,039 never wanted to acknowledge that Jerry was the logo. 2419 01:52:34,123 --> 01:52:36,333 I-I happen to have talked to Alan Siegel, 2420 01:52:36,417 --> 01:52:38,127 who's the creator of the logo, and, um... 2421 01:52:38,210 --> 01:52:40,796 -He says it. [laughs] -He-- he says it. 2422 01:52:40,880 --> 01:52:43,007 [Alan Siegel] NBA wanted to have a symbol 2423 01:52:43,090 --> 01:52:44,925 for the identity for the league. 2424 01:52:45,009 --> 01:52:47,595 We probably did about 30 different takes, you know, 2425 01:52:47,678 --> 01:52:51,182 from, uh, multiple players with their hands above the rim 2426 01:52:51,265 --> 01:52:53,684 to stylized shooting. 2427 01:52:53,767 --> 01:52:56,937 While I was doing it, I went to Sport Magazine 2428 01:52:57,021 --> 01:53:00,858 and I found this picture of Jerry West, and I had grown up 2429 01:53:00,941 --> 01:53:04,403 you know, as a great fan of the NBA and Jerry West. 2430 01:53:04,487 --> 01:53:08,407 And I thought this picture that I found of him dribbling up the court 2431 01:53:08,491 --> 01:53:10,034 was very elegant, 2432 01:53:10,117 --> 01:53:13,245 very classic, showed a dynamic motion. 2433 01:53:13,329 --> 01:53:17,166 Uh, and I used that as the basis for designing the symbol. 2434 01:53:17,249 --> 01:53:21,587 They immediately gravitated toward this design direction, 2435 01:53:21,670 --> 01:53:24,131 and it was approved and put into use. 2436 01:53:24,215 --> 01:53:25,758 The media picked up on it, 2437 01:53:25,841 --> 01:53:28,260 and then it became a cause cรฉlรจbre 2438 01:53:28,344 --> 01:53:31,931 because Jerry was uncomfortable with being the symbol. 2439 01:53:32,014 --> 01:53:33,974 [Jerry] You know, first of all, I wish that... 2440 01:53:35,267 --> 01:53:37,645 had never gotten out about the logo. 2441 01:53:37,728 --> 01:53:39,313 -[all laughing] -I do, really. 2442 01:53:39,396 --> 01:53:41,065 -Uh, no, I-I really do. -Hey, it's the best nickname ever, 2443 01:53:41,148 --> 01:53:43,108 -by the way. -And I've said it more than once 2444 01:53:43,192 --> 01:53:46,570 and, you know, it's flattering if that's me and I know it is me. 2445 01:53:46,654 --> 01:53:49,031 -Yes. -But it is flattering, and, uh, 2446 01:53:49,114 --> 01:53:51,325 but I don't like to do anything to call attention to myself. 2447 01:53:51,408 --> 01:53:53,118 That's just not who I am. Period. 2448 01:53:53,202 --> 01:53:55,079 [Kenya] He would say he doesn't care. 2449 01:53:55,162 --> 01:53:57,373 But then at the same time, he'd hand me a hat that says Logo. 2450 01:53:57,456 --> 01:53:59,833 I'm like, sure, you care. I would say. [laughs] 2451 01:53:59,917 --> 01:54:02,878 Knowing Jerry the way I know him, 2452 01:54:02,962 --> 01:54:07,341 I think that there's a part of him that he's very proud 2453 01:54:07,424 --> 01:54:09,802 that the logo was based after him. 2454 01:54:09,885 --> 01:54:12,096 But he's not the kind of guy that would go around 2455 01:54:12,179 --> 01:54:14,557 telling everybody, "That's me." 2456 01:54:14,640 --> 01:54:17,476 I mean, there's a lot of people that could have been the logo, right? 2457 01:54:17,560 --> 01:54:19,019 Wilt could have been the logo. 2458 01:54:19,103 --> 01:54:21,564 -[Kenya] You could have been the logo. -[Abdul-Jabbar] I could've been, or Oscar. 2459 01:54:21,647 --> 01:54:24,858 But making Jerry, the great master of the game, 2460 01:54:24,942 --> 01:54:27,611 that wasn't a bad choice, okay? That was a good choice. 2461 01:54:27,695 --> 01:54:30,114 [Ryan] Given his longevity in the NBA... 2462 01:54:30,948 --> 01:54:34,076 given what he's meant to the NBA, 2463 01:54:34,159 --> 01:54:37,246 being a part of it for 60-something years, 2464 01:54:37,329 --> 01:54:40,124 for Adam to confirm it now to the world 2465 01:54:40,207 --> 01:54:42,334 uh, means everything to us. 2466 01:54:42,418 --> 01:54:45,087 [Riley] That is one that they should never change. 2467 01:54:45,170 --> 01:54:47,548 Until he takes his last breath, 2468 01:54:47,631 --> 01:54:50,843 nobody else deserves to be The Logo. 2469 01:54:52,219 --> 01:54:55,139 [bright music playing] 2470 01:55:10,029 --> 01:55:12,948 [crowd applauds] 2471 01:55:16,076 --> 01:55:18,746 [host] Presenting Jerry West to the Hall of Fame 2472 01:55:18,829 --> 01:55:21,957 for the third time is Jerry's son, Jonnie West. 2473 01:55:22,041 --> 01:55:24,043 [audience applauds] 2474 01:55:25,252 --> 01:55:27,338 [Jonnie] The truth is, my dad would have struggled 2475 01:55:27,421 --> 01:55:29,006 to accept all this recognition. 2476 01:55:29,673 --> 01:55:31,925 He had a habit of tuning out all the praise 2477 01:55:32,009 --> 01:55:33,969 and hearing only criticism. 2478 01:55:34,053 --> 01:55:37,056 But I'm here today to talk about how good he was at his job, 2479 01:55:37,139 --> 01:55:38,807 whether he likes it or not... 2480 01:55:40,142 --> 01:55:41,810 because Jerry Alan West, 2481 01:55:41,894 --> 01:55:45,648 once an overlooked kid from little Chelyan, West Virginia, 2482 01:55:45,731 --> 01:55:48,734 is a hall of famer for a historic third time. 2483 01:55:48,817 --> 01:55:52,196 [audience applauding] 2484 01:55:54,239 --> 01:55:56,575 Dad, I want to thank you 2485 01:55:56,659 --> 01:55:58,994 for everything you have done for the game of basketball... 2486 01:55:59,953 --> 01:56:01,580 and for everyone within the game. 2487 01:56:05,250 --> 01:56:08,170 [bright music continues] 2488 01:56:11,590 --> 01:56:15,052 [speaker] As an everlasting tribute to Jerry West, 2489 01:56:15,135 --> 01:56:19,139 no WVU athlete in any sport will ever again 2490 01:56:19,223 --> 01:56:21,517 wear the number 44. 2491 01:56:23,602 --> 01:56:26,146 [Ryan] I don't think my dad realized 2492 01:56:26,230 --> 01:56:30,109 how many people cared about him as deeply as they do. 2493 01:56:31,276 --> 01:56:34,196 So, I'm gonna read you a quote from Bill Russell. 2494 01:56:34,279 --> 01:56:35,781 This one stood out for me. 2495 01:56:38,033 --> 01:56:40,077 I just want to thank everybody for coming. 2496 01:56:40,160 --> 01:56:43,914 Jerry West was a very, very dear friend of mine. 2497 01:56:43,997 --> 01:56:45,791 I've known since 1970. 2498 01:56:46,667 --> 01:56:50,170 The door opened at Loyola, in walked Jerry West. 2499 01:56:50,254 --> 01:56:52,256 He had a ball underneath his arm. 2500 01:56:52,339 --> 01:56:54,717 He said, "Pat, welcome to the Lakers. 2501 01:56:55,759 --> 01:56:57,344 You're really gonna help us." 2502 01:56:58,178 --> 01:56:59,638 And that was it. 2503 01:56:59,722 --> 01:57:02,516 You have no idea what that did for me. 2504 01:57:02,599 --> 01:57:05,018 [Kenya] He said, "The greatest honor a man can have 2505 01:57:05,102 --> 01:57:07,062 "is the respect and friendship of his peers. 2506 01:57:08,564 --> 01:57:10,649 "You have that more than any man I know. 2507 01:57:13,444 --> 01:57:14,987 "If I could have one wish granted, 2508 01:57:15,070 --> 01:57:17,531 it would be that you would always be happy." 2509 01:57:19,658 --> 01:57:22,494 [uplifting music playing] 2510 01:57:22,578 --> 01:57:25,456 [Vitti] Jerry's legacy is having 2511 01:57:25,539 --> 01:57:29,168 the morals, values, and ethics, 2512 01:57:29,251 --> 01:57:32,045 the ethos that was created by the Greeks, 2513 01:57:32,129 --> 01:57:34,131 and he lived that way. 2514 01:57:34,214 --> 01:57:38,093 [Curry] The greatest talents and the greatest legends of the game, 2515 01:57:38,177 --> 01:57:40,262 they don't need to necessarily pat themselves on the back. 2516 01:57:40,345 --> 01:57:43,182 They know they're respected because their name means something. 2517 01:57:43,265 --> 01:57:45,017 And I feel like he didn't need to say anything 2518 01:57:45,100 --> 01:57:47,227 other than "I'm Jerry West." 2519 01:57:47,311 --> 01:57:50,898 He was a complicated person. 2520 01:57:50,981 --> 01:57:52,983 [sobs softly] He was a fighter. 2521 01:57:53,859 --> 01:57:58,155 He had incredible empathy, compassion, kindness... 2522 01:57:59,072 --> 01:58:01,158 and wanting to do the right thing for all. 2523 01:58:02,201 --> 01:58:03,535 [Tellem] I think about him every day. 2524 01:58:03,619 --> 01:58:07,206 His words, his thoughts echo within me. 2525 01:58:07,289 --> 01:58:09,833 And I think what makes him to me such a... 2526 01:58:13,504 --> 01:58:17,508 so impactful, is that we all know... 2527 01:58:18,383 --> 01:58:21,220 in the end that we're gonna die. There's a finality to life. 2528 01:58:22,095 --> 01:58:23,931 And he certainly did, and he talked about it. 2529 01:58:25,015 --> 01:58:28,727 But it's being able to express your vulnerabilities, 2530 01:58:28,811 --> 01:58:31,438 transcend your vulnerabilities, 2531 01:58:31,522 --> 01:58:33,106 is what gives your life meaning. 2532 01:58:34,274 --> 01:58:38,695 And that's how he would help me, or any player, 2533 01:58:38,779 --> 01:58:41,615 or anyone else that he came to know, 2534 01:58:41,698 --> 01:58:45,452 was that he could open up, talk to them, help them. 2535 01:58:45,536 --> 01:58:47,788 That's why his life was so meaningful, 2536 01:58:47,871 --> 01:58:49,998 it's the impact he had on everyone else. 2537 01:58:50,082 --> 01:58:53,710 "There is nothing to be sad about anymore, young man. 2538 01:58:53,794 --> 01:58:55,796 You have did it, and you did it your way." 2539 01:58:55,879 --> 01:58:57,923 And that's the one thing I'll always appreciate 2540 01:58:58,006 --> 01:59:00,759 and love you forever, Mr. Clutch. 2541 01:59:00,843 --> 01:59:02,803 Jerry West, I love you like a brother, man. 2542 01:59:02,886 --> 01:59:05,931 And I wish I could've played with you. 2543 01:59:06,765 --> 01:59:08,725 Playing against you, I'm pretty sure I would've whipped your ass. 2544 01:59:08,809 --> 01:59:11,228 -[Kenya laughs] -[Jordan] Uh, but playing with you, 2545 01:59:11,311 --> 01:59:12,938 I know we would've dominated. 2546 01:59:13,021 --> 01:59:17,776 [Johnson] Jerry was a special player, special executive, 2547 01:59:17,860 --> 01:59:22,906 special everything, father, husband, friend, confidant, 2548 01:59:22,990 --> 01:59:25,284 supporter, mentor. 2549 01:59:25,367 --> 01:59:28,161 Jerry, you are like my father. 2550 01:59:29,830 --> 01:59:31,540 A man who I respect. 2551 01:59:32,332 --> 01:59:34,710 A man that who has made me who I am. 2552 01:59:35,627 --> 01:59:38,005 So, thank you, sir. 2553 01:59:39,882 --> 01:59:41,508 [Kenya] That's awesome. 2554 01:59:41,592 --> 01:59:43,093 That's how you end a motherfucking interview. 2555 01:59:43,176 --> 01:59:44,845 [crew laughs] 2556 01:59:44,928 --> 01:59:46,847 Take this goddamn mic off. 2557 01:59:46,930 --> 01:59:50,350 [gentle music playing] 2558 02:00:05,365 --> 02:00:06,909 [Kenya] The kids are innocent. 2559 02:00:06,992 --> 02:00:08,493 Hey, Makenna. 2560 02:00:09,494 --> 02:00:10,787 Where's my Makenna? 2561 02:00:11,955 --> 02:00:13,332 Where's my girlfriend? 2562 02:00:13,415 --> 02:00:15,584 [Jerry] Hey. 2563 02:00:15,667 --> 02:00:16,919 [Kenya chuckles] 2564 02:00:17,002 --> 02:00:19,046 -[Jerry] Say hi. -Look at that big smile. 2565 02:00:19,129 --> 02:00:21,256 -[laughing] -Come on. 2566 02:00:22,049 --> 02:00:23,884 [Kenya laughs] 2567 02:00:23,967 --> 02:00:25,093 Oh, I love that. 2568 02:00:26,178 --> 02:00:28,180 [laughs] Aw! 2569 02:00:28,263 --> 02:00:29,973 How's my girlfriend? 2570 02:00:30,057 --> 02:00:31,808 How was school? 2571 02:00:31,892 --> 02:00:33,393 They're taking a picture of you. 2572 02:00:34,645 --> 02:00:37,731 [Jonnie] With him and Makenna, he says "I love you" to her. 2573 02:00:37,814 --> 02:00:39,024 He kisses her. 2574 02:00:39,107 --> 02:00:42,194 Somebody told me recently, "When you're a parent, 2575 02:00:42,277 --> 02:00:45,697 "like, you have no idea what it is to be a parent. 2576 02:00:46,698 --> 02:00:50,202 When you're a grandparent, you know how to be a parent," 2577 02:00:50,285 --> 02:00:54,331 and how you put everything into your grandchildren, 2578 02:00:54,414 --> 02:00:57,250 I think shows more who you are as a parent. 2579 02:00:58,251 --> 02:01:00,963 [Kenya] You know what-- you know what granddad's doing right now? 2580 02:01:02,673 --> 02:01:04,341 He's talking about some questions. Can we... 2581 02:01:04,424 --> 02:01:06,718 Can-- can you say hi? You want to say hi? 2582 02:01:06,802 --> 02:01:09,805 [gentle music continues] 196460

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