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Yes I can, that was my attitude.
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If you told me I couldn't do something
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I could show you I can do it.
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A lot of people are like lemmings.
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I mean like they'll blindly follow.
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And sometimes one gets out of the pack.
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And that's always scary
to the other lemmings.
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Because it may prove that
maybe they were wrong.
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Thank god for the ones
that go out and you know,
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break away sometimes.
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They had dreams.
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They had the courage.
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They wanted it.
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It was a strong group of ladies.
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They paved the way for the future.
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Having some fun with
all our golfing friends.
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They were pioneers in
really women's sport,
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not just golf.
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Really was the forerunner
of all of women's sports.
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Did it
feel like a sacrifice ever?
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No, you never think it's a sacrifice.
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It's something you wanna do.
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Never.
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Good question.
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The obstacles that they overcame
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just in a male dominated
world at that time
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where women were supposed
to be in their houses
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cooking and cleaning and raising children.
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They were really, truly pioneers.
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And we worked hard.
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We didn't anticipate that what
would happen has happened.
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The founders, you
know, they're the reason
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that I'm able to do what I'm doing today.
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Tell me
how do you feel about that,
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that you made this happen?
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13 women, 13 women getting together
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to form such an organization.
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They had to be brave.
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They had to be brave,
they had to be confident
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and they had to have passion.
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When she called me, whatever it was,
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you were gonna do this.
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I said well you all better hurry
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because there's only four of us left.
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Yeah, out of 13.
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♪ Little girl, little girl
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♪ With all those pretty pretty eyes
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♪ Little girl, little girl
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♪ You got those pretty, pretty eyes
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♪ With a dimple in your cheek
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♪ And the devil within
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♪ Now you're just my heart and soul
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♪ Little girl, little girl
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♪ Well then you do me like you do
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♪ Little girl, little girl
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♪ Well then you thrill me like you do
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♪ Is it your itty bitty walk
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♪ Squeaky squeaky talk
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♪ That made me fall for you
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♪ Little girl, little girl
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♪ Want to let go you have a fire
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I collect ducks.
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I have 200 ducks at
home of every substance
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that ever was produced in a duck.
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I think Shirley is a great gal.
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She's got the right thing.
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Her heart beats the right way.
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She really says it like
it is, you know what I mean?
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She's very outspoken and opinionated.
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She's very smart.
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She's priceless.
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In the neighborhood, the kids, the boys
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caddied and on Monday they could play
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on the golf course free.
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And they said if I had a golf club
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I could go play with them.
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I was 11 years old and
I found some golf balls.
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And I sold them back to the golfers.
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And get on a street car and went down
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to the city of Detroit to
find a golf club for a dollar.
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And I went to Griswold
sporting goods store.
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And they had a big barrel of clubs.
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And there were tall ones, short ones,
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bent ones, wooden ones.
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I didn't know one from the other
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and I found one that was kind
of short and kind of straight.
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So I brought it home, showed the caddies.
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And I said I got my club,
I could go on Monday
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and play with you.
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And they all laughed at me.
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Because it was a putter.
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And the putter's the last club you use
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to win or lose the tournament.
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So I started at the end
and I'm trying to get
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to the beginning.
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I'm just an ordinary person
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that's lived an ordinary life.
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Do you think about it?
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No, I never think about it.
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Here's the picture.
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You gotta get this picture.
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Look at that one, can you
get that in your story?
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Marilynn is so nice
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that all through our years on tour,
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I used to thought she was fake.
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Nobody could be that nice.
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But I found out since then
she really is that way.
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She would ask the guy pumping gas
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what his name was, where he lived,
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how many people he had.
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And he had a bad, beat
up old pair of shoes
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and she'd give him 20 bucks.
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You rarely see somebody
that really thinks
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there is a Santa Claus.
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Because that was, that
was, oh shicklegruber.
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Well, when I was 10,
11 and 12 years of age,
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I was the pitcher, the
coach and the manager
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of a boy's baseball
team in Wichita, Kansas.
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And I came home from pitching one day
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when I was 12.
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And my mother said,
how'd you do today, dear?
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And I took my mitt and I
threw it against the wall
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and I said, oh a four letter
word beginning with S.
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Well she marched me into the lavatory
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and washed my mouth
out with Lifebuoy soap.
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And when my dad came home,
she told him what I had said.
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And he said, we better
take you out to the Wichita
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Country Club in Wichita, Kansas
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and teach her a more ladylike sport.
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So a bad word actually
got me going in to golf.
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You don't beat me unless you beat me.
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It's just the way I was is the way I was
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and the way I am.
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I'm still that way today even at my age.
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She was a competitor.
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A very kind person if you knew her.
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Honest, sincere,
has all the right values.
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She had a dog named Dammit.
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But she stayed within
herself, Louise, yeah.
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Well the first set of
clubs I got, ever had,
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were wooden shafts that dad had,
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from a shop, old clubs that
were stuck in a barrel.
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He sawed them off to suit me
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and he used bicycle tape for grips.
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Now I remember him saw me wrap a club
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around the pine tree one time.
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And he said sis, when
you learn to be a lady
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on the golf course, you
can have your clubs back
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when you come apologize.
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About a week later I went and,
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sorry Dad, I won't do that again.
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And I never did.
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They're
gonna ask you questions
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but try to just look at me.
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Okay.
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- When you answer.
- Okay.
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We want to keep you looking right.
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I'll pretend you're a ventriloquist.
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When they ask the question
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I'll just open my mouth.
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Okay.
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She's a good kid.
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I like Marlene, always
have and always will.
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She was a good putter.
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Good competitor.
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She and her sister, you
know, were quite the stars
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on the LPGA circuit.
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My father, he wanted two young boys
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because he saw the future of golf.
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And he got two little runt girls.
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He wanted to teach us the skill
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that could earn us some money
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and get us out of Eureka
out of the gutter.
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He started me at three and a half,
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put a golf club in my hand.
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Have you seen this?
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What's that?
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Have you seen this?
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This is my, this is me, this is my sister,
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my father and my mother.
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Life knows and they wanted to
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because we were the, you know,
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at that time I held all the records
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for the youngest to ever
do something or other.
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They put
a doll in this outfit.
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Well I think they wanted to point out
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that at 13 I should be playing with dolls
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instead of trying to start a golf career.
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I never played with dolls.
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I was too busy.
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That was the way they set it up.
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I was the youngest player.
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My sister was probably the next youngest.
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She was six and a half years older than I.
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So she would have been 14.
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There was never any jealousy.
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She probably rooted for me
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more than she rooted for herself.
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I played in the South
Coat State Championship
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when I was seven.
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That same year in the next year
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I played in the Women's
Western Open in Chicago.
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I was kind of an oddity.
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Or we both were.
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She was a show person.
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She knew she was good and she
told everybody she was good.
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And I'm here and I'm gonna win.
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She's a real cut up, she's a jokester.
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She's a good person.
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Courage, strength, winner.
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She didn't care what
she did or how she did it.
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She did it.
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That was Babe.
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Babe's a Harrises Woman
from Beaumont Texas.
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Her father was a carpenter, large family,
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had kind of a struggle getting along.
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There was a series of
hedges in her neighborhood,
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one right after another.
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And she would hurdle over the hedges.
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Babe
Didrikson leads the world
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as champion girl lasses.
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This shows her victory,
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She even performed in
Vaudeville playing a harmonica.
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Anything to do to make the little money.
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She always wanted to win.
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She wanted to be the best.
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And she went to great lengths to do that.
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♪ You better run
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♪ Hey you better run
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♪ You better run child
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♪ Yeah you better run
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I think back about, oh my
god into the game of golf
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when I was in grade school
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and I looked at the
encyclopedia under sports
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and there was a name
there, Babe Didrikson.
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And Babe Didrikson did everything.
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And in '32 in the Olympics she won medals.
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I'm awfully glad to
have been able to set
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this new hurdle mark
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and hope to do some
better some other time.
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♪ You better run
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And then she did other
sports, all kind of sports
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so I thought, gee, look at this.
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She did all those things.
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After winning in the Olympics,
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she found that there
was nothing to play in.
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It was very frustrating to her
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because here she was,
probably the greatest
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woman athlete of all time
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and she couldn't make a
living doing it really.
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There were no professional
sports leagues for women.
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When I went to college at
the University of Kansas,
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there was no girls golf team.
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But my dad went to Fog Allen,
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the director of athletics to ask
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if he could get some expense money
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for his daughter to play in the National
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Inter-Collegiate Golf Tournament
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which is gonna be in Ohio State.
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His reply was, "Mr. Smith it's too bad
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"your daughter is not a boy."
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There's a boy's Junior Championship.
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They wouldn't let me play in it at first
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and then the paper, the
media got on them so bad
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that they were forced to let me play.
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There was this boy.
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I thought he was really cool, he was 15.
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And so I beat him in the finals
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and he just never spoke to
me again for a long while.
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Thank you very much
but, you know Howard?
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I taught Bud how to play football.
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Is that right?
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Yeah we played for
the 50th Street Tigers.
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Where was that, Patty?
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Minneapolis, Minnesota.
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What did you play?
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I played quarterback
and he played tackle.
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Well Patty I know that
the people are interested
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in how you hit those golf shots.
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And for many years you've been known
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as one of America's greatest putters.
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Patty Berg was women's golf
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but in my day, I mean I,
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that's all you'd heard about.
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Patty Berg
who has won them all
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drives in one of the biggest,
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1941 we had National Amateur
at Brookland Massachusetts.
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And Patty being a
professional was not allowed
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in the clubhouse.
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Believe it or not.
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Won at the 1941 and 43 open.
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Patty cuts that lead to one hole.
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Golf was a rich man's game.
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In that era, it couldn't compete
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unless you belong to an
organization or a private club.
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It was very closed.
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A new clubhouse
has recently been completed.
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And for the enjoyment of golf,
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In those days it was
kind of a class thing.
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We were from the wrong side of the tracks.
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The only openings for
competition in that era
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was to have enough money to
drive to Florida in the winter
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and play in private invitational events
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which Marilynn and I never
had that opportunity.
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Of course then
during the war years,
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everything changed.
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Oh I remember where I was.
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Where?
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Playing kick the can with
the boys out in the street.
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And I can see my dad coming out the door
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and said we've been
attacked by the Japanese.
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So we just went back
and played kick the can.
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You know, it didn't mean much.
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But my mother was born in Germany.
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And somehow the people in
the neighborhood knew that
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and they would throw rocks at her window.
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We coined
a few personal opinions
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on a timely question, should
sports be discontinued
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for the duration,
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During World War II, there
were no tournaments, period.
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Men or women or, there was no baseball.
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Nothing went on during World
War II in competitions.
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The importance of sports
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has been challenged.
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The men were in the military.
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Women were expected to take
over the jobs over here.
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During the war,
we had service station
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in the draft, all the young men were gone.
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So they hired women to work
in the service station.
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In those days, they checked the oil,
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washed the windshield,
checked the air in the tire
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and stand me out.
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I worked for those oil
corporations for eight years.
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And I put a tire iron behind my front seat
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when I have to go check on these stations
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and see everything was
going on, believe me.
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My teeth chattered a couple times.
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When women began to respond.
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Convinced they could do factory work
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or anything within their strength
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that men could do for Uncle Sam.
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Women took up the slack.
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Was it the riveting, what not.
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Winner one up,
Patty takes over the custody
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of the Western Open
Crown for the second time
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in three years.
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A grand uphill fight climaxed by a triumph
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which for thrills is exceeded only
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by this greater moment as she signs up
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with the Women's Reserve
Corps of the US Marines
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and promptly models her next new hat.
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We hasten to admit Patty,
on you it looks good.
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Betty Hicks served in the US Coast Guard
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as a public relations officer.
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Betty Jameson took a job
with the Army Air Corps
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in San Antonio driving trucks.
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00:18:29,442 --> 00:18:32,177
Helen Dettweiler was a member of the WASP,
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Women's Air Service Pilots.
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And she actually flew B-17 bombers
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over to England from the United States
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to drop them off for the
US Men's Military to fly.
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Women were taking part in the war.
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And these were all great golfers.
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They couldn't just leave
their job as a member
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of the military to play
in golf tournaments.
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Well, in World War
II, they weren't allowed
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to make golf clubs.
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They weren't allowed to make golf balls
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because they're made out
of rubber or (mumbling).
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Until the war was over,
there were no new golf balls.
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When the war ended,
the Federal Government
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and Industry in America were concerned
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about returning men to the jobs that women
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had held during the war.
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Women had carried a lot of the work burden
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in the United States.
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Now the men come home and
they want to get the men
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back in those jobs.
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It was that feeling behind it
that I want to do something
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other than teach school or be a secretary
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or be a wife and mother.
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I'm ready for my life to begin.
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I want to have some adventure.
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Babe
Zaharias, a famous athlete,
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00:20:18,254 --> 00:20:21,546
tees off in the All- American
championship at Chicago.
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We very seldom ever had tournaments
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where it was a mixed tournament,
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where men and women played together.
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That was a real, real big thing
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because George Esme allowed men amateurs,
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men pros, men, lady pros, lady amateurs,
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celebrities, everybody could play.
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It was like a circus.
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The sun came up and you started playing.
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00:20:44,977 --> 00:20:47,321
At the end of the day
they didn't get finished.
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00:20:47,322 --> 00:20:49,110
You went the next morning and you played.
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00:20:49,111 --> 00:20:53,258
He brought the public interest
into the game of golf.
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Chicago's annual
Tam O'Shanter golf tournament.
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00:20:54,664 --> 00:20:56,194
As Byron Nelson,
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00:20:56,195 --> 00:20:59,837
You actually had men like Byron Nelson.
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00:20:59,838 --> 00:21:02,405
And they were great golfers
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00:21:02,406 --> 00:21:05,201
and they were great names too.
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00:21:05,202 --> 00:21:07,185
And you were putting people out there
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00:21:07,186 --> 00:21:09,534
whom everybody knew.
407
00:21:09,535 --> 00:21:11,868
And that was fantastic golf.
408
00:21:13,674 --> 00:21:17,257
The men were objecting
to have equal pay.
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00:21:18,697 --> 00:21:21,447
Betty Hicks won the World Open.
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00:21:22,975 --> 00:21:26,102
Byron Nelson won the men's division.
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00:21:26,103 --> 00:21:27,714
Touch and wins.
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This years Tam O'Shanter
is worth a cool $10,000.
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Oh what winning.
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Betty Hicks gets $500.
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That was the catalyst for forming
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the Women's Professional Golf Association.
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00:21:49,404 --> 00:21:52,571
The WPGA was set up by Ellen Griffin
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and Hope Seignious.
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Then on the West Coast,
there was Helen Dettweiler
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00:22:00,262 --> 00:22:01,595
and Betty Hicks.
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00:22:02,593 --> 00:22:06,836
Hope Seignious and her
father owned a Gin Mill.
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00:22:06,837 --> 00:22:09,088
He's the one that put the
money up for tournaments
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00:22:09,089 --> 00:22:10,643
so they could play.
424
00:22:10,644 --> 00:22:12,217
Hope Seignious had money.
425
00:22:12,218 --> 00:22:15,870
Ellen Griffin had determination
and stick-to-itiveness.
426
00:22:15,871 --> 00:22:18,065
And they formed it so
that they could bargain
427
00:22:18,066 --> 00:22:20,647
with sponsors like George Esme
428
00:22:20,648 --> 00:22:23,394
and try to equalize the
purses a little bit.
429
00:22:23,395 --> 00:22:25,593
So that was in 1944.
430
00:22:25,594 --> 00:22:27,496
I think it was incredibly difficult
431
00:22:27,497 --> 00:22:29,980
because you had letters
flying back and forth.
432
00:22:29,981 --> 00:22:32,075
And it was really difficult for them
433
00:22:32,076 --> 00:22:34,137
to get anything off the ground.
434
00:22:34,138 --> 00:22:37,864
And they did get a few
tournaments off the ground.
435
00:22:37,865 --> 00:22:39,644
Finally had six tournaments.
436
00:22:39,645 --> 00:22:41,011
They had the Women's Western Open.
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00:22:41,012 --> 00:22:42,860
They had Women's Texas Open.
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00:22:42,861 --> 00:22:44,507
And the US Women's Open.
439
00:22:44,508 --> 00:22:47,488
The Hardscrabble Invitational in Arkansas.
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00:22:47,489 --> 00:22:49,581
The Tampa Women's Open.
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00:22:49,582 --> 00:22:53,080
There was a Title Holders
in Augusta Georgia
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00:22:53,081 --> 00:22:55,186
in Augusta Country Club
which was considered
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00:22:55,187 --> 00:22:58,104
the women's version of the Masters.
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00:22:59,467 --> 00:23:01,936
They had their first US Women's Open.
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00:23:01,937 --> 00:23:03,460
Showing the form that won
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00:23:03,461 --> 00:23:05,260
the 1941 and 1943 Open,
447
00:23:05,261 --> 00:23:06,796
It's a match play event.
448
00:23:06,797 --> 00:23:08,575
It was a grueling contest.
449
00:23:08,576 --> 00:23:10,401
They played about 36 holes a day.
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00:23:10,402 --> 00:23:12,442
And Patty finally won that.
451
00:23:16,891 --> 00:23:18,102
I thought gee that'll be great.
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00:23:18,103 --> 00:23:19,115
As soon as I get out of high school,
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00:23:19,116 --> 00:23:20,883
I'm gonna join the WPGA.
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00:23:20,884 --> 00:23:23,634
Well the WPGA fizzle dizzled out.
455
00:23:24,489 --> 00:23:26,147
Geographically, you know,
456
00:23:26,148 --> 00:23:30,058
it was too difficult for them to organize.
457
00:23:30,059 --> 00:23:32,635
And I think there was
quite a lot of dissent
458
00:23:32,636 --> 00:23:34,969
between what they should do.
459
00:23:37,494 --> 00:23:41,161
In 1948, the WPGA
just sort of fell apart.
460
00:23:43,475 --> 00:23:45,967
It's because the women
didn't want to do the work
461
00:23:45,968 --> 00:23:48,149
according to Betty Hicks.
462
00:23:48,150 --> 00:23:49,424
Yeah I wouldn't agree with that.
463
00:23:49,425 --> 00:23:51,518
I think they wanted to do the work.
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00:23:51,519 --> 00:23:53,585
I just think they found it too difficult
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00:23:53,586 --> 00:23:56,302
to agree on what the work was.
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00:23:56,303 --> 00:23:59,154
They didn't want to do
all the housekeeping it took
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00:23:59,155 --> 00:24:01,264
to run these championships.
468
00:24:01,265 --> 00:24:04,149
It just started to crumble.
469
00:24:04,150 --> 00:24:05,487
They did have disagreements
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00:24:05,488 --> 00:24:08,345
as any lot of people will.
471
00:24:08,346 --> 00:24:11,535
But I don't think it was a lack of trying.
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00:24:11,536 --> 00:24:12,737
It's very simple.
473
00:24:12,738 --> 00:24:14,846
They didn't have the money.
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00:24:14,847 --> 00:24:16,975
But they were, they were amazing
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00:24:16,976 --> 00:24:19,226
pioneer women, those women.
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00:24:32,171 --> 00:24:36,455
The Women's Amateur golf
has always done very well.
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00:24:36,456 --> 00:24:38,357
I think Women's Professional golf
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00:24:38,358 --> 00:24:40,858
was regarded very differently.
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00:24:42,042 --> 00:24:44,402
For women to even become
professional golfers,
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00:24:44,403 --> 00:24:46,655
people didn't like athletic women.
481
00:24:46,656 --> 00:24:49,533
You know, women weren't
supposed to do that.
482
00:24:49,534 --> 00:24:51,229
We're playing the Women's Western Open
483
00:24:51,230 --> 00:24:55,168
in Skycrest Country
Club in the Chicago area
484
00:24:55,169 --> 00:24:56,502
in June of 1949.
485
00:24:58,739 --> 00:25:02,829
And we're sitting eating
breakfast with Babe
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00:25:02,830 --> 00:25:06,276
and Babe looked at me and she said,
487
00:25:06,277 --> 00:25:09,194
listen kid, why don't you turn pro?
488
00:25:10,109 --> 00:25:12,322
So I said , well Babe, how do you do that?
489
00:25:12,323 --> 00:25:15,225
And she stood up, walked around the table
490
00:25:15,226 --> 00:25:18,358
and put her hand on my head just plunk.
491
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,661
I almost bit my tongue off.
492
00:25:20,662 --> 00:25:23,431
Plunk, she said I pronounce you a pro.
493
00:25:23,432 --> 00:25:24,672
Go down there on the tee
494
00:25:24,673 --> 00:25:26,363
and tell them you're a pro.
495
00:25:26,364 --> 00:25:28,336
Yeah an amateur never has prize money.
496
00:25:28,337 --> 00:25:29,927
There's no prize money.
497
00:25:29,928 --> 00:25:31,649
You get silverware.
498
00:25:31,650 --> 00:25:35,569
If you took money, you
were a professional.
499
00:25:35,570 --> 00:25:36,744
It seems from looking here
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00:25:36,745 --> 00:25:39,935
that Louise had quite an amateur career.
501
00:25:39,936 --> 00:25:43,740
She sort of ruled the
roost of amateur golf
502
00:25:43,741 --> 00:25:47,908
on both the US side as well
as over in the United Kingdom.
503
00:25:51,155 --> 00:25:52,320
When I won the British,
504
00:25:52,321 --> 00:25:56,798
it was the epitome of my
amateur career, you might say.
505
00:25:56,799 --> 00:25:58,323
There was nothing else left
506
00:25:58,324 --> 00:26:00,449
that I was eligible to play in to win.
507
00:26:00,450 --> 00:26:04,172
There were women who
wanted to be professionals
508
00:26:04,173 --> 00:26:07,337
and there was nothing for them to play in.
509
00:26:07,338 --> 00:26:08,734
I mean you could not make money
510
00:26:08,735 --> 00:26:12,138
as a professional because
there weren't any tournaments.
511
00:26:12,139 --> 00:26:14,210
We were all of one mind
512
00:26:14,211 --> 00:26:16,878
that we wanted a place for women
513
00:26:18,247 --> 00:26:22,514
to do something they love
and make a living out of.
514
00:26:22,515 --> 00:26:24,682
Well maybe it was
because we were just dumb
515
00:26:24,683 --> 00:26:26,850
or stupid or something.
516
00:26:26,851 --> 00:26:29,179
We just wanted to play golf
517
00:26:29,180 --> 00:26:32,938
1948, Elby Isley of
Wilson Sporting Goods
518
00:26:32,939 --> 00:26:35,957
got in touch with Fred Corcoran.
519
00:26:35,958 --> 00:26:38,978
Now Fred had been tournament
director for the PGA tour.
520
00:26:38,979 --> 00:26:40,471
He was an agent.
521
00:26:40,472 --> 00:26:42,044
He had great clients.
522
00:26:42,045 --> 00:26:45,998
He had Ted Williams, he had Sam Snead.
523
00:26:45,999 --> 00:26:47,721
So he had Babe Zaharias.
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00:26:47,722 --> 00:26:51,526
And she was the
personality who came along
525
00:26:51,527 --> 00:26:53,381
and made it possible.
526
00:26:53,382 --> 00:26:57,070
Whatever Babe was doing,
then people were interested
527
00:26:57,071 --> 00:26:58,564
whether she won or lost.
528
00:26:58,565 --> 00:27:00,436
If she lost, she was the headlines
529
00:27:00,437 --> 00:27:04,085
which the other women found difficult.
530
00:27:04,086 --> 00:27:05,268
The Fabulous Babe Didrikson
531
00:27:05,269 --> 00:27:06,901
is the apple of the gallery's eye
532
00:27:06,902 --> 00:27:08,534
as she turns in a fine performance
533
00:27:08,535 --> 00:27:11,517
over the grueling 72 holes.
534
00:27:11,518 --> 00:27:14,268
Here she makes a smooth approach.
535
00:27:16,134 --> 00:27:18,056
You had wonderful women golfers.
536
00:27:18,057 --> 00:27:21,258
I mean Patty Berg and
Louise Suggs were probably
537
00:27:21,259 --> 00:27:23,396
both finer golfers.
538
00:27:23,397 --> 00:27:27,866
Patty Berg
is making a strong finish.
539
00:27:27,867 --> 00:27:28,998
Miss Suggs is holding off.
540
00:27:28,999 --> 00:27:30,752
That's enough to make
any challenger realize
541
00:27:30,753 --> 00:27:32,670
she's up against the toughest competition
542
00:27:32,671 --> 00:27:34,179
in women's golf.
543
00:27:34,180 --> 00:27:37,653
Babe just had so much
more in terms of hitting
544
00:27:37,654 --> 00:27:38,825
the golf ball.
545
00:27:38,826 --> 00:27:41,271
I mean she just hit the
golf ball so much further
546
00:27:41,272 --> 00:27:42,477
than anybody else.
547
00:27:45,949 --> 00:27:50,116
Because Babe was probably
more like a man playing golf,
548
00:27:52,113 --> 00:27:54,363
people wanted to watch her.
549
00:27:55,393 --> 00:27:57,025
Well she went to Wilson's Sporting Goods
550
00:27:57,026 --> 00:28:00,215
and said I want a tour
and I want to be able
551
00:28:00,216 --> 00:28:03,825
to play against other competitors.
552
00:28:03,826 --> 00:28:07,993
She convinced Mr. Isley who
was president of Wilson,
553
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:12,840
and Spalding and Mcgregor
to hire Fred Corcoran.
554
00:28:13,797 --> 00:28:16,292
He wanted to further promote
sporting goods equipment.
555
00:28:16,293 --> 00:28:18,452
So it would put the
name of those golf clubs
556
00:28:18,453 --> 00:28:21,838
after those big staff bags
that would say Patty Berg,
557
00:28:21,839 --> 00:28:23,221
Wilson on the side.
558
00:28:23,222 --> 00:28:25,139
In front of spectators.
559
00:28:26,212 --> 00:28:29,068
They had a meeting at the
Venetian Hotel in 1949
560
00:28:29,069 --> 00:28:33,018
with Patty Berg, Babe and George
Zaharias and Fred Corcoran.
561
00:28:33,019 --> 00:28:37,099
And they decided they
would really turn the WPGA
562
00:28:37,100 --> 00:28:38,545
into the LPGA.
563
00:28:38,546 --> 00:28:41,583
When we became the LPGA in 1950,
564
00:28:41,584 --> 00:28:44,451
at Rolling Hills Country
Club in Wichita Kansas,
565
00:28:44,452 --> 00:28:45,369
I was 15.
566
00:28:46,723 --> 00:28:48,640
It was more than money.
567
00:28:49,678 --> 00:28:52,033
We wanted the world to
recognize that women
568
00:28:52,034 --> 00:28:53,784
can be great golfers.
569
00:28:54,731 --> 00:28:57,500
Remarkable that those women
got that off the ground.
570
00:29:51,568 --> 00:29:53,560
We were the
group like a carnival.
571
00:29:53,561 --> 00:29:56,011
'Cause we went from town to town to town.
572
00:29:56,012 --> 00:29:58,333
We did the whole thing ourselves.
573
00:29:58,334 --> 00:29:59,829
We had physical struggles
574
00:29:59,830 --> 00:30:01,913
because we had to drive so far.
575
00:30:01,914 --> 00:30:03,828
One of our trips was 1600 miles
576
00:30:03,829 --> 00:30:06,744
from Spokane Washington to Waterloo.
577
00:30:06,745 --> 00:30:08,166
That took almost two days.
578
00:30:08,167 --> 00:30:09,618
We didn't have cell phones.
579
00:30:09,619 --> 00:30:11,619
We had pingpong paddles.
580
00:30:12,637 --> 00:30:15,470
One was yellow, one was red, one was green
581
00:30:15,471 --> 00:30:17,668
and we'd wave it out the window.
582
00:30:17,669 --> 00:30:19,492
The food was green, yellow was pee
583
00:30:19,493 --> 00:30:20,826
and red was gas.
584
00:30:28,451 --> 00:30:31,951
And if we saw a cop car behind a signboard
585
00:30:32,877 --> 00:30:35,506
we'd blink our lights so
that the people behind us
586
00:30:35,507 --> 00:30:38,073
would know that there's a cop.
587
00:30:38,074 --> 00:30:39,886
You know, we'd usually
caravan from place to place
588
00:30:39,887 --> 00:30:41,579
with three or four cars.
589
00:30:41,580 --> 00:30:44,593
And Louise used to
caravan sometimes with me.
590
00:30:44,594 --> 00:30:46,058
And you know how she talks, she'd say,
591
00:30:46,059 --> 00:30:49,047
oh slow down, I don't
like to go as fast as you.
592
00:30:49,048 --> 00:30:52,469
And you could well imagine
what went on from there.
593
00:30:52,470 --> 00:30:56,052
Well Marlene Hagge was driving my car.
594
00:30:56,053 --> 00:30:58,658
And all of a sudden she
slammed on the brakes
595
00:30:58,659 --> 00:31:01,933
and we skidded sideways
up to this 18 wheeler
596
00:31:01,934 --> 00:31:03,704
and when I looked up, we had slid
597
00:31:03,705 --> 00:31:06,299
directly under the trailer.
598
00:31:06,300 --> 00:31:07,481
I said, get out, I'm driving.
599
00:31:07,482 --> 00:31:08,920
I don't care how sleepy I am.
600
00:31:08,921 --> 00:31:13,391
I'm a better driver sleepy
than you are awake supposedly.
601
00:31:15,730 --> 00:31:17,745
There were no Interstates.
602
00:31:17,746 --> 00:31:19,757
We used to go through
all the little towns.
603
00:31:22,003 --> 00:31:26,170
The whole city turned out
for our little tournament.
604
00:31:27,341 --> 00:31:29,246
Well we checked
in of course into the motel
605
00:31:29,247 --> 00:31:30,616
or the hotel.
606
00:31:30,617 --> 00:31:33,301
Some of us would speak at
a Quanas or Lions luncheon
607
00:31:33,302 --> 00:31:34,969
to promote the tour.
608
00:31:36,243 --> 00:31:38,826
Of course we had our hair done.
609
00:31:41,982 --> 00:31:44,064
We'd go to the local ball games
610
00:31:44,065 --> 00:31:46,670
and hit shots from home plate.
611
00:31:46,671 --> 00:31:49,634
And under lights, hitting the
golf ball with an eight iron
612
00:31:49,635 --> 00:31:53,435
looks like you're knocking 10,000 miles.
613
00:32:00,834 --> 00:32:02,584
We went to
the local radio station.
614
00:32:02,585 --> 00:32:06,548
We had posters, we
stopped at all the stores.
615
00:32:06,549 --> 00:32:09,790
Can we put this in your window?
616
00:32:09,791 --> 00:32:11,632
People like that were so supportive.
617
00:32:11,633 --> 00:32:14,329
This one tournament, we had 19 players
618
00:32:14,330 --> 00:32:16,580
but we only paid 18 people.
619
00:32:17,718 --> 00:32:19,342
So what did the people in Waterloo do?
620
00:32:19,343 --> 00:32:21,705
They passed a hat to around to the people
621
00:32:21,706 --> 00:32:25,391
and they got a hundred
dollars for the last place.
622
00:32:25,392 --> 00:32:27,660
Gives me goosebumps to think about.
623
00:32:27,661 --> 00:32:29,816
Marilynn Smith,
one of the tour's most popular
624
00:32:29,817 --> 00:32:31,860
young ladies shows why she is also,
625
00:32:31,861 --> 00:32:34,941
We were really good in
that type of atmosphere.
626
00:32:34,942 --> 00:32:37,327
When you put us in a big city, no.
627
00:32:37,328 --> 00:32:38,161
Uh-uh.
628
00:32:39,230 --> 00:32:41,026
It wasn't time yet.
629
00:32:41,027 --> 00:32:42,976
The tour back in those early days,
630
00:32:42,977 --> 00:32:45,887
it was like a big family.
631
00:32:45,888 --> 00:32:47,118
The nation's distaff swingers
632
00:32:47,119 --> 00:32:49,017
arrived early to get a little practice
633
00:32:49,018 --> 00:32:50,908
before teeing off on the final round
634
00:32:50,909 --> 00:32:52,731
of this 72 hole tournament.
635
00:32:52,732 --> 00:32:55,982
We would go to a club and give a hour
636
00:32:58,304 --> 00:33:00,652
demonstration clinic showing how people
637
00:33:00,653 --> 00:33:02,570
did things incorrectly.
638
00:33:03,473 --> 00:33:06,577
And then we'd show them
how to do it correctly.
639
00:33:06,578 --> 00:33:09,491
And then we would play
nine holes with a pro,
640
00:33:09,492 --> 00:33:12,059
the ladies champion, the men's champion.
641
00:33:12,060 --> 00:33:14,355
And as we played the
hole, we would explain
642
00:33:14,356 --> 00:33:17,315
how we were approaching the shot.
643
00:33:17,316 --> 00:33:21,233
So we were teaching them
a learning experience.
644
00:33:23,588 --> 00:33:25,363
Here we are, a slice from left to right,
645
00:33:25,364 --> 00:33:27,006
putting the visor in slicing position.
646
00:33:27,007 --> 00:33:28,574
You can see how important the visor is
647
00:33:28,575 --> 00:33:30,970
Place the club on the outside of the line.
648
00:33:30,971 --> 00:33:34,655
Hitting the ball now from left to right.
649
00:33:34,656 --> 00:33:37,139
The more people we
got involved in playing,
650
00:33:37,140 --> 00:33:41,919
the more spectators would want
to come and watch us perform.
651
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:43,120
When we had these tournaments,
652
00:33:43,121 --> 00:33:47,059
they would have an
evening for us to dress up
653
00:33:47,060 --> 00:33:50,371
and come to the club and meet
the people, the sponsors.
654
00:33:56,106 --> 00:33:59,816
I walked to so many cocktail
parties, I can't tell you.
655
00:33:59,817 --> 00:34:01,397
And I don't drink.
656
00:34:01,398 --> 00:34:04,950
I could make a drink
last till the ice melted.
657
00:34:04,951 --> 00:34:09,118
♪ Baby don't know the
lengths that I would go to
658
00:34:10,012 --> 00:34:12,582
Inside the clubhouse, we
would model these clothes
659
00:34:12,583 --> 00:34:14,211
for the people.
660
00:34:14,212 --> 00:34:17,086
That was another way of publicizing
661
00:34:17,087 --> 00:34:19,030
that we were feminine too.
662
00:34:19,031 --> 00:34:20,864
We could dress up too.
663
00:34:26,113 --> 00:34:27,771
Some didn't want to do it.
664
00:34:27,772 --> 00:34:29,978
In fact we got to the point sometimes
665
00:34:29,979 --> 00:34:33,666
where we had to find
them if they didn't go.
666
00:34:33,667 --> 00:34:34,917
So, and we did.
667
00:34:35,854 --> 00:34:38,459
So the women professionals
had to talk to all these people
668
00:34:38,460 --> 00:34:42,377
and that certainly wouldn't
have suited Louise.
669
00:34:43,914 --> 00:34:46,643
In anything you do where
you rely on the public
670
00:34:46,644 --> 00:34:50,708
to pay your way, you have
to treat people nicely.
671
00:34:50,709 --> 00:34:52,140
You have to have grace.
672
00:34:52,141 --> 00:34:54,625
You have to not be a hothead.
673
00:34:54,626 --> 00:34:56,174
Come on out here.
674
00:34:56,175 --> 00:34:57,429
Looky here, looky here.
675
00:35:02,111 --> 00:35:02,943
You're Alice?
676
00:35:02,944 --> 00:35:03,776
That's right.
677
00:35:03,777 --> 00:35:04,609
And you're?
678
00:35:04,610 --> 00:35:05,578
- Marlene.
- Marlene.
679
00:35:05,579 --> 00:35:07,109
Sooner I let you folks, if you know,
680
00:35:07,110 --> 00:35:08,764
this is really something, Don.
681
00:35:08,765 --> 00:35:10,934
Not only are these, do
they look like athletes
682
00:35:10,935 --> 00:35:12,086
and yet they're beautiful.
683
00:35:12,087 --> 00:35:13,240
You bet.
684
00:35:13,241 --> 00:35:14,398
Just beautiful.
685
00:35:14,399 --> 00:35:15,629
And you slug these golf balls?
686
00:35:15,630 --> 00:35:17,858
How much do you weigh?
687
00:35:19,014 --> 00:35:20,199
I weight 120.
688
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:21,271
120?
689
00:35:21,272 --> 00:35:22,196
Yeah.
690
00:35:22,197 --> 00:35:23,071
And you?
691
00:35:23,072 --> 00:35:24,705
I weigh 106.
692
00:35:24,706 --> 00:35:25,897
With all my clothes on.
693
00:35:27,966 --> 00:35:29,468
In television, it has to be that way.
694
00:35:30,867 --> 00:35:32,884
We played the National Open one time
695
00:35:32,885 --> 00:35:35,390
in Wingfoot in New York.
696
00:35:35,391 --> 00:35:39,397
And so Alice and I had
to go buy some skirts.
697
00:35:39,398 --> 00:35:42,434
Because slacks were not accepted.
698
00:35:42,435 --> 00:35:44,950
Women's golfers couldn't play, wear slacks
699
00:35:44,951 --> 00:35:46,991
on the golf course 'cause
they look too masculine,
700
00:35:46,992 --> 00:35:48,054
I don't know.
701
00:35:48,055 --> 00:35:49,630
With more
and more attractive pros,
702
00:35:49,631 --> 00:35:51,404
a lot of men are beginning to realize
703
00:35:51,405 --> 00:35:53,823
that the ladies pro tour offers a lot more
704
00:35:53,824 --> 00:35:57,241
to attract galleries than just good golf.
705
00:35:58,522 --> 00:36:01,138
It is a fact however,
that competitive athletics
706
00:36:01,139 --> 00:36:05,560
are tend to destroy all that
is, are natural in women
707
00:36:05,561 --> 00:36:09,728
and all that which tends to
make them attractive to men.
708
00:36:13,670 --> 00:36:16,049
Babe was quite aware of the fact
709
00:36:16,050 --> 00:36:19,182
that she needed to become more ladylike
710
00:36:19,183 --> 00:36:21,350
to become more acceptable.
711
00:36:28,819 --> 00:36:30,551
People didn't like athletic women.
712
00:36:30,552 --> 00:36:32,224
I think they still find it hard and all.
713
00:36:32,225 --> 00:36:34,728
Through the decades they find it hard
714
00:36:34,729 --> 00:36:37,062
to deal with athletic women.
715
00:36:43,687 --> 00:36:46,197
Getting sponsorship
was the hardest thing.
716
00:36:46,198 --> 00:36:50,365
We depended on the Lion's
Club, the Sipitan Group.
717
00:36:51,408 --> 00:36:54,885
And they would have us
come there as an attraction
718
00:36:54,886 --> 00:36:56,732
so they would make money.
719
00:36:56,733 --> 00:36:58,004
And they would put up a price,
720
00:36:58,005 --> 00:37:01,177
the first 25, 30 years all we did is
721
00:37:01,178 --> 00:37:03,261
go from spot a to b to c.
722
00:37:04,240 --> 00:37:09,083
Whoever would put up the
money for us to play for.
723
00:37:09,084 --> 00:37:10,328
Players ran the tour.
724
00:37:10,329 --> 00:37:12,359
There was no paid staff.
725
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:15,912
We had a treasurer who gave
out the money, you know
726
00:37:15,913 --> 00:37:17,256
at the end of the tournament.
727
00:37:17,257 --> 00:37:19,184
And then we had a tournament
committee who went out
728
00:37:19,185 --> 00:37:20,385
and set up the golf courses.
729
00:37:20,386 --> 00:37:22,592
Line off certain areas and did all that.
730
00:37:22,593 --> 00:37:24,459
We had a parriance committee.
731
00:37:24,460 --> 00:37:25,903
And then we had someone that called up
732
00:37:25,904 --> 00:37:27,449
after the tournament to Associated Press
733
00:37:27,450 --> 00:37:29,417
to give the scores.
734
00:37:29,418 --> 00:37:33,452
It was just
a put together thing.
735
00:37:33,453 --> 00:37:35,186
We didn't get much press, honey.
736
00:37:35,187 --> 00:37:36,803
If we got any press,
it was on the back page
737
00:37:36,804 --> 00:37:39,190
and it always misspelled my name.
738
00:37:39,191 --> 00:37:41,610
My name has two ns on Marilynn.
739
00:37:41,611 --> 00:37:43,169
And they didn't believe it.
740
00:37:43,170 --> 00:37:45,847
They always chopped that off.
741
00:37:45,848 --> 00:37:48,593
As a professional, we played a course.
742
00:37:48,594 --> 00:37:50,504
And I looked down the fairway and well,
743
00:37:50,505 --> 00:37:52,082
where's the grass?
744
00:37:52,083 --> 00:37:55,666
And I thought what in
the hell have I done?
745
00:37:57,139 --> 00:37:59,433
The kind of golf courses
we played on the most days
746
00:37:59,434 --> 00:38:02,135
were certainly not like they are today.
747
00:38:02,136 --> 00:38:04,025
Right now some fairways are better
748
00:38:04,026 --> 00:38:07,587
than most of the greens we played.
749
00:38:07,588 --> 00:38:11,207
We played steel shafts, wooden heads.
750
00:38:11,208 --> 00:38:13,014
We only had one wedge.
751
00:38:13,015 --> 00:38:16,015
We could play a tune with our wedge.
752
00:38:17,210 --> 00:38:18,647
We played courses much longer
753
00:38:18,648 --> 00:38:20,820
than what they play today.
754
00:38:20,821 --> 00:38:22,430
Courses that were brand new,
755
00:38:22,431 --> 00:38:26,381
and we were kind of a guinea
pig before the men came.
756
00:38:26,382 --> 00:38:28,964
Then another course we played in at 1950
757
00:38:28,965 --> 00:38:31,448
was a 60 mile an hour wind.
758
00:38:31,449 --> 00:38:32,961
And I was paired with Louise Suggs
759
00:38:32,962 --> 00:38:34,762
and Shirley Spork.
760
00:38:34,763 --> 00:38:36,414
Shirley was gonna take a three wood shot
761
00:38:36,415 --> 00:38:37,580
and hit the ball.
762
00:38:37,581 --> 00:38:38,846
Well the wind blew her off balance
763
00:38:38,847 --> 00:38:40,699
and she missed the ball.
764
00:38:40,700 --> 00:38:42,772
Well we went, just laughed and thought
765
00:38:42,773 --> 00:38:44,205
that was so funny, you know.
766
00:38:46,206 --> 00:38:48,091
Well Louise plugged along and she had a 78
767
00:38:48,092 --> 00:38:50,953
which was one of the best rounds of golf
768
00:38:50,954 --> 00:38:53,121
in a 60 mile an hour wind.
769
00:38:55,642 --> 00:38:59,683
♪ There's a light in
my life shining on you
770
00:38:59,684 --> 00:39:01,148
The only way I know how to describe it
771
00:39:01,149 --> 00:39:02,777
is you just took what you could get.
772
00:39:02,778 --> 00:39:06,945
♪ There's a light in my
life shining over me yeah
773
00:39:09,929 --> 00:39:14,211
♪ That your blessings from above fill me
774
00:39:14,212 --> 00:39:17,545
They were playing for their next meal.
775
00:39:20,258 --> 00:39:22,406
For the next place they were gonna stay.
776
00:39:22,407 --> 00:39:23,688
They were playing for the love of it
777
00:39:23,689 --> 00:39:26,490
but they're also playing to make it a job.
778
00:39:26,491 --> 00:39:29,171
Well we were supposed to
be married and in the house
779
00:39:29,172 --> 00:39:30,606
and taking care of children.
780
00:39:30,607 --> 00:39:33,878
And it wasn't a norm to have a
woman out on the golf course.
781
00:39:33,879 --> 00:39:37,462
♪ My friends are gone yeah
782
00:39:39,118 --> 00:39:42,502
♪ But if I put my trust in Jesus
783
00:39:42,503 --> 00:39:44,535
♪ My burdens will light up
784
00:39:44,536 --> 00:39:45,686
We overcame it.
785
00:39:45,687 --> 00:39:48,211
We just didn't pay any attention to that.
786
00:39:48,212 --> 00:39:50,867
♪ In my life shining over me
787
00:39:50,868 --> 00:39:55,374
Well anything in those days
in a skirt that was skinny,
788
00:39:55,375 --> 00:39:57,875
halfway combed hair and stuff.
789
00:39:59,054 --> 00:40:00,387
They whistle at.
790
00:40:02,515 --> 00:40:05,579
They didn't know quite how to take us.
791
00:40:05,580 --> 00:40:08,930
'Cause it was normal for
a man to be an athlete.
792
00:40:08,931 --> 00:40:11,736
It wasn't normal for a
woman to be an athlete.
793
00:40:11,737 --> 00:40:14,080
Like why would you want to do this?
794
00:40:14,081 --> 00:40:17,748
It was all right to
play for a silver pot.
795
00:40:18,692 --> 00:40:20,898
I think when you became a professional,
796
00:40:20,899 --> 00:40:23,491
that was regarded as really different.
797
00:40:23,492 --> 00:40:27,242
And to play for money
wasn't nice as a woman.
798
00:40:28,187 --> 00:40:30,627
Generally speaking, men have a hard time
799
00:40:30,628 --> 00:40:33,028
accepting a female athlete.
800
00:40:33,029 --> 00:40:37,478
If a woman could hit the
pin with the same club
801
00:40:37,479 --> 00:40:41,106
that a man uses, she'd
beat him every time.
802
00:40:41,107 --> 00:40:43,423
'Cause I was jumped on, like,
803
00:40:43,424 --> 00:40:47,645
you can imagine hot by
the press for saying that.
804
00:40:47,646 --> 00:40:49,896
But that's what I believed.
805
00:40:53,847 --> 00:40:58,069
Louise was the first
woman to play against men
806
00:40:58,070 --> 00:41:00,063
at a professional level.
807
00:41:00,064 --> 00:41:01,688
Louise managed to win it.
808
00:41:01,689 --> 00:41:03,673
She said that that particular day,
809
00:41:03,674 --> 00:41:05,785
playing from the same tees with the men,
810
00:41:05,786 --> 00:41:09,119
after the 54 hole competition had ended,
811
00:41:09,969 --> 00:41:11,145
she was the winner.
812
00:41:11,146 --> 00:41:15,017
As she was walking out of the
event, in the parking lot,
813
00:41:15,018 --> 00:41:18,162
she saw Sam Snead and he was sort of gruff
814
00:41:18,163 --> 00:41:21,087
and head down and walking away
815
00:41:21,088 --> 00:41:22,909
and then he kind of turned back and had
816
00:41:22,910 --> 00:41:25,180
a few curt remarks.
817
00:41:25,181 --> 00:41:29,588
And Louise took great
pleasure saying to Sam,
818
00:41:29,589 --> 00:41:32,514
Sam, I don't know what the
hell you were bitching about
819
00:41:32,515 --> 00:41:35,572
because you weren't even second.
820
00:41:35,573 --> 00:41:38,817
So but, he scratched out of there
821
00:41:38,818 --> 00:41:43,580
and left about half a ton
of rubber on the cement.
822
00:41:43,581 --> 00:41:46,559
Louise Suggs and I
were paired in a twosome.
823
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:49,216
And I hooked the ball into the left rough.
824
00:41:49,217 --> 00:41:52,742
And I said, Louise, this isn't my ball.
825
00:41:52,743 --> 00:41:54,693
And she said oh my God.
826
00:41:54,694 --> 00:41:57,682
I was assessed a shot
for every shot you hit
827
00:41:57,683 --> 00:41:58,957
with the wrong ball.
828
00:41:58,958 --> 00:42:02,623
She was really militant about doing things
829
00:42:02,624 --> 00:42:04,079
the right way and everything.
830
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:05,520
She said, Marlene, I want to tell you.
831
00:42:05,521 --> 00:42:08,461
She said I don't know if
anyone else would have done
832
00:42:08,462 --> 00:42:10,991
what you did because nobody
would have ever known.
833
00:42:10,992 --> 00:42:13,007
And that meant so much to me.
834
00:42:13,008 --> 00:42:16,787
That was a better gift than
winning the tournament really
835
00:42:16,788 --> 00:42:19,955
to have somebody like Louise say that.
836
00:42:22,415 --> 00:42:25,248
On the course, I had no friends.
837
00:42:26,150 --> 00:42:29,460
Anybody that I played was an enemy.
838
00:42:29,461 --> 00:42:31,494
Made no difference who it was.
839
00:42:31,495 --> 00:42:34,912
And by nature, competitive nature to win.
840
00:42:37,188 --> 00:42:40,658
Well Louise has probably
told you about her,
841
00:42:40,659 --> 00:42:41,983
The Babe, hasn't she?
842
00:42:41,984 --> 00:42:43,130
Yeah.
843
00:42:43,131 --> 00:42:44,987
So I won't go into that.
844
00:42:44,988 --> 00:42:47,290
Babe not only was self-promoting.
845
00:42:47,291 --> 00:42:51,215
She was all-consuming
of the space around her.
846
00:42:51,216 --> 00:42:54,299
That didn't sit too well with Louise.
847
00:42:58,688 --> 00:43:01,026
I was paired with her to qualify
848
00:43:01,027 --> 00:43:04,360
for the Western Amateur in Indianapolis.
849
00:43:07,401 --> 00:43:09,545
Changed shoes, she came in and I got up,
850
00:43:09,546 --> 00:43:11,180
walked over and I said,
851
00:43:11,181 --> 00:43:15,098
Mrs. Zaharas, I'd like
to introduce myself.
852
00:43:15,099 --> 00:43:17,156
We're paired together today.
853
00:43:17,157 --> 00:43:19,734
And she looked at me up and down and said,
854
00:43:19,735 --> 00:43:20,902
well, so what?
855
00:43:23,852 --> 00:43:25,778
Well that was a beginning
of a beautiful friendship,
856
00:43:25,779 --> 00:43:26,779
I might add.
857
00:43:28,458 --> 00:43:29,916
Louise Suggs was a gem
858
00:43:29,917 --> 00:43:32,750
so far as golf swing is concerned.
859
00:43:33,783 --> 00:43:36,200
But the personality was Babe.
860
00:43:41,358 --> 00:43:43,893
And Louise didn't have that personality.
861
00:43:43,894 --> 00:43:47,144
Found it terribly difficult to project.
862
00:43:49,533 --> 00:43:51,726
They were very
different personalities.
863
00:43:51,727 --> 00:43:55,310
Babe Zaharias was a
showoff, very outgoing.
864
00:43:56,380 --> 00:43:59,568
Louise Suggs is very reserved.
865
00:43:59,569 --> 00:44:01,268
Louise just
wanted to do her thing
866
00:44:01,269 --> 00:44:02,936
and win and quietly.
867
00:44:08,825 --> 00:44:12,135
And Patty Berg was
always able to project
868
00:44:12,136 --> 00:44:15,469
but you know, Babe just had so much more
869
00:44:17,069 --> 00:44:19,209
in terms of hitting the golf ball.
870
00:44:19,210 --> 00:44:21,720
I mean she just hit the
golf ball so much further
871
00:44:21,721 --> 00:44:23,600
than everybody else.
872
00:44:23,601 --> 00:44:25,007
And was so athletic.
873
00:44:25,008 --> 00:44:27,983
I mean you couldn't ever
describe Patty Berg as athletic.
874
00:44:27,984 --> 00:44:29,324
She was a great golfer.
875
00:44:29,325 --> 00:44:32,408
But she wasn't athletic and Babe was.
876
00:44:34,614 --> 00:44:36,415
Had it not been for her,
877
00:44:36,416 --> 00:44:38,437
the LPGA probably wouldn't have started
878
00:44:38,438 --> 00:44:40,021
for another decade.
879
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:43,756
She went in the locker room one time
880
00:44:43,757 --> 00:44:45,598
and she said, all right you girls,
881
00:44:45,599 --> 00:44:46,987
I need to make more money than you do
882
00:44:46,988 --> 00:44:48,821
because I am the star.
883
00:44:50,571 --> 00:44:53,468
Babe Didrikson
Zaharias and Patty Berg,
884
00:44:53,469 --> 00:44:56,112
And Patty cornered
her afterwards and said
885
00:44:56,113 --> 00:44:58,449
Babe you may be the star, but every star's
886
00:44:58,450 --> 00:45:00,312
gotta have a chorus line.
887
00:45:00,313 --> 00:45:01,461
The world's
leading woman athlete
888
00:45:01,462 --> 00:45:03,472
teeing off in the final
round with a three hole lead.
889
00:45:03,473 --> 00:45:06,254
But the sturdy Minneapolis
red head is right after her
890
00:45:06,255 --> 00:45:07,678
in a thrilling homestretch battle
891
00:45:07,679 --> 00:45:10,270
at Chicago Skycrest Course.
892
00:45:14,426 --> 00:45:17,242
Showing the form that won
her the 1941 and 43 Open,
893
00:45:17,243 --> 00:45:19,069
Patty cuts that lead to one hole
894
00:45:19,070 --> 00:45:21,487
with sharpshooting like this.
895
00:45:22,728 --> 00:45:24,276
The Babe isn't missing them either.
896
00:45:24,277 --> 00:45:26,749
Quite a ding-dong affair.
897
00:45:29,420 --> 00:45:30,941
At the end of the regular 36 holes,
898
00:45:30,942 --> 00:45:32,162
the girls were all even.
899
00:45:32,163 --> 00:45:34,141
It was shots like this that helped Patty
900
00:45:34,142 --> 00:45:37,021
square the match with a
highly favored Mrs. Zaharias
901
00:45:37,022 --> 00:45:40,268
carrying the play into
a hectic overtime duel.
902
00:45:40,269 --> 00:45:42,376
Patty copped the cup
with her putt on the 37th
903
00:45:42,377 --> 00:45:44,346
to win the Western Open for the third time
904
00:45:44,347 --> 00:45:48,351
equaling the Babe's
victories in the same event.
905
00:45:48,352 --> 00:45:49,586
Somebody asked me one time,
906
00:45:49,587 --> 00:45:52,048
do you all get together
before the tournament starts
907
00:45:52,049 --> 00:45:55,542
and decide who's gonna win the tournament?
908
00:45:55,543 --> 00:45:56,376
I said no.
909
00:45:58,129 --> 00:45:59,682
If you've ever seen three cats fighting
910
00:45:59,683 --> 00:46:02,564
over a plate of fish, you'll know why.
911
00:46:07,205 --> 00:46:09,655
♪ I'm changing my heart
for your heart baby
912
00:46:09,656 --> 00:46:11,886
♪ I'll give you all my kisses to boot
913
00:46:11,887 --> 00:46:14,150
♪ I'll trade you my
heart for your heart baby
914
00:46:14,151 --> 00:46:16,238
♪ I'll give you all my kisses to boot
915
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:19,948
You'll never find any
three more competitive women
916
00:46:19,949 --> 00:46:21,032
than we were.
917
00:46:21,977 --> 00:46:26,390
♪ Bang bang bang bang bang bang bang
918
00:46:26,391 --> 00:46:30,224
♪ Bang bang bangity bang bang
919
00:46:31,354 --> 00:46:33,929
♪ Bang bang bang
920
00:46:33,930 --> 00:46:36,200
♪ Bangity bang
921
00:46:36,201 --> 00:46:38,422
♪ I'll trade you my
lips for your lips baby
922
00:46:38,423 --> 00:46:40,881
Louise was the one
that dug in and worked.
923
00:46:40,882 --> 00:46:43,243
She didn't care if she
got any credit for it.
924
00:46:43,244 --> 00:46:44,827
Patty liked credit.
925
00:46:46,516 --> 00:46:49,929
And Babe was the most charismatic.
926
00:46:49,930 --> 00:46:53,930
♪ Bang bang bang bang bang bang
927
00:46:55,829 --> 00:47:00,180
♪ Bang bang bangity bang bang
928
00:47:00,181 --> 00:47:01,665
♪ Bang bang bang
929
00:47:01,666 --> 00:47:03,246
Hi sports fans.
930
00:47:03,247 --> 00:47:05,349
This is Howard Miller ready
to take you around the nation
931
00:47:05,350 --> 00:47:07,434
for a closeup look at some
great sporting scenes.
932
00:47:07,435 --> 00:47:11,166
50 stars led by Babe
Ditman's Open Championsip.
933
00:47:11,167 --> 00:47:13,265
Babe holds the Rolling Hills Course record
934
00:47:13,266 --> 00:47:14,814
with a 70.
935
00:47:14,815 --> 00:47:17,039
And today she's a cold favorite again.
936
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:20,523
The other favorite is defending
champion Louise Suggs.
937
00:47:20,524 --> 00:47:22,819
Last year, she won her first National Open
938
00:47:22,820 --> 00:47:26,070
at Landover Maryland with a record 291.
939
00:47:28,035 --> 00:47:30,936
And still in there is
Patty Berg of Minneapolis
940
00:47:30,937 --> 00:47:33,921
who won the first
National Open back in 1936
941
00:47:33,922 --> 00:47:35,005
14 years ago.
942
00:47:36,956 --> 00:47:40,455
A sponsor wouldn't
stand for not having Babe
943
00:47:40,456 --> 00:47:42,206
and Patty and myself.
944
00:47:43,904 --> 00:47:46,738
And a few other people like that.
945
00:47:46,739 --> 00:47:48,479
Because we both had red hair
946
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:50,480
and were about the same stature,
947
00:47:50,481 --> 00:47:53,294
people started following
me because they thought
948
00:47:53,295 --> 00:47:55,591
I was Patty Berg.
949
00:47:55,592 --> 00:47:57,522
And then when they found out
that I wasn't Patty Berg,
950
00:47:57,523 --> 00:47:59,421
they went somewhere else.
951
00:47:59,422 --> 00:48:02,005
She was good with the crowds.
952
00:48:03,262 --> 00:48:04,762
She was fantastic.
953
00:48:06,101 --> 00:48:10,268
I think I was closer to
Patty on a personal basis.
954
00:48:13,844 --> 00:48:16,647
She was a very pleaseant
person to be with.
955
00:48:16,648 --> 00:48:20,549
And outgoing and tried to
promote the game of golf
956
00:48:20,550 --> 00:48:22,133
other than herself.
957
00:48:23,426 --> 00:48:27,259
Where I think Babe was
busy promoting herself.
958
00:48:28,107 --> 00:48:29,257
But the main gallery
959
00:48:29,258 --> 00:48:31,602
is following the Babe
again out to sow it up.
960
00:48:31,603 --> 00:48:34,414
Like a champion, she saves her
best round for her final day
961
00:48:34,415 --> 00:48:37,062
and plays amazing golf.
962
00:48:45,162 --> 00:48:49,415
The $1,250 mean 14,000
for the Babe so far.
963
00:48:49,416 --> 00:48:54,383
While amateur Betsy is happy
to nose out Louise Suggs.
964
00:48:54,384 --> 00:48:57,134
Babe and Betsy, two happy lasses.
965
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:01,877
Babe irritated some
people that were serious
966
00:49:01,878 --> 00:49:03,211
because she was a cut up
967
00:49:03,212 --> 00:49:04,811
and she'd do some things sometimes
968
00:49:04,812 --> 00:49:08,419
to call gamesmanship to bother you.
969
00:49:08,420 --> 00:49:09,798
And then she'd make fun of it later
970
00:49:09,799 --> 00:49:11,945
so it was hard to stay mad at her.
971
00:49:11,946 --> 00:49:15,327
But you knew that she was
gonna try to do some stuff.
972
00:49:15,328 --> 00:49:17,735
She always swore that she
never got appearance money
973
00:49:17,736 --> 00:49:22,481
because the LPGA didn't allow
that, still doesn't allow it.
974
00:49:22,482 --> 00:49:25,513
Oh yes, I would say she
definitely got appearance fee
975
00:49:25,514 --> 00:49:28,644
to get turnup at tournaments,
some would have asked for them
976
00:49:28,645 --> 00:49:30,621
and would have got them.
977
00:49:30,622 --> 00:49:34,553
And maybe would have been
resented for having got them.
978
00:49:34,554 --> 00:49:36,566
Patty Berg said she
never broke any rules
979
00:49:36,567 --> 00:49:39,150
and Louis Suggs says otherwise.
980
00:49:42,010 --> 00:49:46,177
Louise absolutely was the
conscience of the rules.
981
00:49:47,059 --> 00:49:49,784
Even to the point where
she refused to sign
982
00:49:49,785 --> 00:49:53,397
one of the Babe's cards after the event
983
00:49:53,398 --> 00:49:55,687
because she felt that she pressured
984
00:49:55,688 --> 00:49:57,491
one of the rules committee people
985
00:49:57,492 --> 00:50:00,325
to give her that favorable ruling.
986
00:50:01,553 --> 00:50:03,167
To this day, I don't know
987
00:50:03,168 --> 00:50:05,172
how much appearance money she got.
988
00:50:05,173 --> 00:50:07,496
But she told the story
that she always gave it
989
00:50:07,497 --> 00:50:09,305
to the LPGA.
990
00:50:09,306 --> 00:50:10,900
She did not.
991
00:50:10,901 --> 00:50:13,901
That's one of those things that she and I
992
00:50:13,902 --> 00:50:16,485
came to blows about just about.
993
00:50:20,767 --> 00:50:22,970
I wouldn't have thought
that some of them,
994
00:50:22,971 --> 00:50:26,816
they found it easy to live
with Babe, these women.
995
00:50:26,817 --> 00:50:30,029
But they knew that she was
their bread and butter.
996
00:50:30,030 --> 00:50:33,491
So I mean, you know, you can't
knock your bread and butter.
997
00:50:33,492 --> 00:50:35,740
You know, there's a
difference between being a buddy
998
00:50:35,741 --> 00:50:38,201
and respecting the talent.
999
00:50:38,202 --> 00:50:40,629
There was a great respect for the talent.
1000
00:50:40,630 --> 00:50:45,011
When I first met Babe,
it was in Sacramento.
1001
00:50:45,012 --> 00:50:49,095
She had the greatest hazel
eyes I have ever seen.
1002
00:50:50,087 --> 00:50:54,138
I mean they were right
on you going through you
1003
00:50:54,139 --> 00:50:58,456
towards you, any which
way, but full of life.
1004
00:50:58,457 --> 00:50:59,558
But the
Babe sinks hers to win
1005
00:50:59,559 --> 00:51:02,148
with a new course record of 298.
1006
00:51:06,355 --> 00:51:08,263
Some said she's been slipping this winter
1007
00:51:08,264 --> 00:51:11,431
but the Babe never played better golf.
1008
00:51:14,302 --> 00:51:17,302
In 1948 she had a pain in her side
1009
00:51:18,777 --> 00:51:23,284
and instead of finding out
what was the problem medically,
1010
00:51:23,285 --> 00:51:27,598
she ignored it and that
went on for four years
1011
00:51:27,599 --> 00:51:31,108
which seem unbelievable that somebody
1012
00:51:31,109 --> 00:51:34,132
could have that much pain and then go on
1013
00:51:34,133 --> 00:51:38,471
for another four years before
she did anything about it.
1014
00:51:38,472 --> 00:51:41,457
It was just a startling
thing that this great athlete
1015
00:51:41,458 --> 00:51:45,654
with this perfect body could
have anything go so wrong.
1016
00:51:45,655 --> 00:51:47,405
And it was very hard.
1017
00:51:50,288 --> 00:51:52,301
Fred Corcoran, after Babe Zaharias
1018
00:51:52,302 --> 00:51:54,719
got really sick, he resigned.
1019
00:51:55,691 --> 00:51:58,826
The funds would drop so he left us.
1020
00:51:58,827 --> 00:52:03,311
And then several of us took
over as tournament directors
1021
00:52:03,312 --> 00:52:05,327
to get tournaments.
1022
00:52:05,328 --> 00:52:07,078
Well, we did whatever we had to do.
1023
00:52:07,079 --> 00:52:10,309
We couldn't afford a
commissioner for a few years.
1024
00:52:10,310 --> 00:52:14,143
And that's when some of
our arguments started.
1025
00:52:16,757 --> 00:52:18,749
Everybody had to come to the meeting
1026
00:52:18,750 --> 00:52:21,336
and you'd discuss whatever
you wanted to talk about
1027
00:52:21,337 --> 00:52:23,758
and get up and argue about it
1028
00:52:23,759 --> 00:52:26,424
and try to get in an agreement
1029
00:52:26,425 --> 00:52:29,360
as to what we're gonna do.
1030
00:52:29,361 --> 00:52:33,908
There was a lot of
disharmony in those meetings.
1031
00:52:33,909 --> 00:52:36,409
It must have been really hard.
1032
00:52:37,518 --> 00:52:40,881
Well some of them were screamfests.
1033
00:52:40,882 --> 00:52:43,294
Women hold a grudge.
1034
00:52:43,295 --> 00:52:44,481
It's hard.
1035
00:52:44,482 --> 00:52:46,088
Men you know, they could go in a meeting,
1036
00:52:46,089 --> 00:52:48,281
argue and cuss and swear.
1037
00:52:48,282 --> 00:52:50,896
But women hold a grudge
and that's not good.
1038
00:52:50,897 --> 00:52:53,250
You gotta let it go.
1039
00:52:53,251 --> 00:52:55,796
We all came together in the end.
1040
00:52:55,797 --> 00:52:59,964
It was just a very passionate
display of opinions.
1041
00:53:10,886 --> 00:53:14,636
This article that came
out in January 1954.
1042
00:53:18,072 --> 00:53:19,488
She did it tongue in cheek
1043
00:53:19,489 --> 00:53:21,361
but at the same time I think it did upset
1044
00:53:21,362 --> 00:53:25,016
most of the women she wrote about.
1045
00:53:25,017 --> 00:53:28,647
Patty Berg was the
healthiest hypochondriac.
1046
00:53:28,648 --> 00:53:32,191
Most of us get amusedly weary hearing
1047
00:53:32,192 --> 00:53:34,442
of Patty Berg's eh, uh huh.
1048
00:53:36,831 --> 00:53:37,664
Well okay.
1049
00:53:39,873 --> 00:53:43,263
Marlene Bauer's never finished
high school, that's neat.
1050
00:53:43,264 --> 00:53:46,302
But when I left, the
principal of the school,
1051
00:53:46,303 --> 00:53:48,340
he said you're wasting your time here.
1052
00:53:48,341 --> 00:53:50,117
You'll learn more on the tour.
1053
00:53:50,118 --> 00:53:52,017
So she didn't tell the whole story.
1054
00:53:52,018 --> 00:53:53,158
That's perfect.
1055
00:53:53,159 --> 00:53:54,841
Outgoing Marilynn Smith sometimes
1056
00:53:54,842 --> 00:53:57,329
gets so sociable with the
tournament guy that she forgets
1057
00:53:57,330 --> 00:54:01,270
to hit her shots.
1058
00:54:01,271 --> 00:54:05,585
I had many opportunities
to be engaged or married
1059
00:54:05,586 --> 00:54:07,444
and I didn't want to do that.
1060
00:54:07,445 --> 00:54:10,279
I wanted to just keep going all by myself.
1061
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:13,099
That's the choice I made.
1062
00:54:13,100 --> 00:54:15,726
Well I almost got married
two or three times, you know.
1063
00:54:15,727 --> 00:54:18,621
And it's very hard to settle down
1064
00:54:18,622 --> 00:54:21,289
when you're traveling like that.
1065
00:54:23,731 --> 00:54:27,933
That would have been a
big decision to quit.
1066
00:54:27,934 --> 00:54:30,629
I wasn't in love with
him enough to do that,
1067
00:54:30,630 --> 00:54:33,213
to quit the tour and marry him.
1068
00:54:36,379 --> 00:54:39,339
People like that that
put other people down,
1069
00:54:39,340 --> 00:54:41,389
they don't like themselves.
1070
00:54:41,390 --> 00:54:43,460
And so they feel better when they can put
1071
00:54:43,461 --> 00:54:46,168
somebody down a little
farther so they're taller.
1072
00:54:46,169 --> 00:54:47,536
I didn't think it endeared her
1073
00:54:47,537 --> 00:54:49,704
to her fellow competitors.
1074
00:54:50,996 --> 00:54:55,131
But on the other hand, it
was probably great publicity
1075
00:54:55,132 --> 00:54:56,895
for the LPGA.
1076
00:54:56,896 --> 00:55:00,887
I'm sure that Babe was really
annoyed by the article.
1077
00:55:00,888 --> 00:55:03,592
She told Betty Hicks that
she would leave the tour
1078
00:55:03,593 --> 00:55:06,681
and see how Suggs earns the money.
1079
00:55:06,682 --> 00:55:10,199
George actually would not
have let Babe leave the tour
1080
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:14,367
because George was earning
money with Babe earning money.
1081
00:55:18,646 --> 00:55:20,035
The Wichita
Country Club in Kansas
1082
00:55:20,036 --> 00:55:23,279
makes way for a new USGA
Women's Open golf champion
1083
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:27,030
with Mrs. Babe Zaharias
sidelined by illness.
1084
00:55:28,051 --> 00:55:32,218
And she collapsed in 1952
at a tournament in Texas.
1085
00:55:34,306 --> 00:55:38,473
And it wasn't until 1953 that
she was actually diagnosed
1086
00:55:39,704 --> 00:55:41,204
with colon cancer.
1087
00:55:42,354 --> 00:55:45,619
You never thought of her
as a victim or being sick.
1088
00:55:45,620 --> 00:55:48,994
She was a very good trooper about that.
1089
00:55:48,995 --> 00:55:52,745
She took what life handed
her and carried on.
1090
00:55:53,981 --> 00:55:58,303
After Babe got cancer in
1953 and had a dramatic surgery
1091
00:55:58,304 --> 00:56:01,659
that she had to have in order to survive,
1092
00:56:01,660 --> 00:56:04,995
everybody thought she was finished.
1093
00:56:04,996 --> 00:56:06,604
But she loved golf so much
1094
00:56:06,605 --> 00:56:09,029
that she slowly began to come back.
1095
00:56:09,030 --> 00:56:11,452
In the Women's
National Open near Boston,
1096
00:56:11,453 --> 00:56:13,970
Babe Didrikson Zaharias making a,
1097
00:56:13,971 --> 00:56:15,849
Then it must have been her strength,
1098
00:56:15,850 --> 00:56:19,017
her determination that made her go on.
1099
00:56:20,075 --> 00:56:22,784
Babe drops a six
footer to preserve her par
1100
00:56:22,785 --> 00:56:24,732
and her big lead.
1101
00:56:24,733 --> 00:56:26,723
And she won by 10 strokes.
1102
00:56:26,724 --> 00:56:30,106
And I consider that the
greatest Women's Open victory
1103
00:56:30,107 --> 00:56:31,107
of all time.
1104
00:56:32,682 --> 00:56:35,350
Mrs. Zaharias
has the crown wrapped up.
1105
00:56:35,351 --> 00:56:38,888
Just 18 months ago, she underwent
an operation for cancer.
1106
00:56:38,889 --> 00:56:41,057
Everyone said her career was over.
1107
00:56:41,058 --> 00:56:43,115
But here she is winning by a mile,
1108
00:56:43,116 --> 00:56:46,024
a margin of 12 strokes
with a score of 291,
1109
00:56:46,025 --> 00:56:49,288
one of the most inspiring
comebacks in all sports history.
1110
00:56:56,145 --> 00:56:58,485
USGA President Ike
Granger presents the cup
1111
00:56:58,486 --> 00:57:01,839
and Babe offers some touching remarks.
1112
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:03,146
I don't like to keep bringing up
1113
00:57:03,147 --> 00:57:05,397
this hospital deal of mine.
1114
00:57:06,464 --> 00:57:09,297
But I was laying there in room 201
1115
00:57:11,506 --> 00:57:15,007
at the Hotel Du Hospital and
these reports were going out
1116
00:57:15,008 --> 00:57:18,258
about that I'll never play championship
1117
00:57:19,146 --> 00:57:22,024
or tournament golf again.
1118
00:57:22,025 --> 00:57:25,082
And I laid in the bed and I says
1119
00:57:25,083 --> 00:57:27,583
please God, let me play again.
1120
00:57:28,566 --> 00:57:30,609
And he answered my prayer.
1121
00:57:30,610 --> 00:57:32,846
And I want to thank God
for letting me win again.
1122
00:57:32,847 --> 00:57:34,566
It's really wonderful.
1123
00:57:35,808 --> 00:57:37,641
Last time I saw Babe
1124
00:57:38,530 --> 00:57:42,113
was at the Women's
Titleholders in Augusta.
1125
00:57:45,788 --> 00:57:49,280
Now she'd had her operation for cancer.
1126
00:57:49,281 --> 00:57:52,847
And things aren't looking too good.
1127
00:57:52,848 --> 00:57:54,267
And it's the first time I saw,
1128
00:57:54,268 --> 00:57:56,565
I checked those eyes.
1129
00:57:56,566 --> 00:57:58,983
Those eyes were lifeless now.
1130
00:58:04,723 --> 00:58:07,059
Babe Zaharias spent her last Christmas
1131
00:58:07,060 --> 00:58:09,341
in Fort Worth Texas.
1132
00:58:09,342 --> 00:58:12,180
She was good friends with
R.L. and Bertha Bowett.
1133
00:58:12,181 --> 00:58:14,388
R.L. flew them from Beaumont
1134
00:58:14,389 --> 00:58:17,637
and Babe got off this little plane
1135
00:58:17,638 --> 00:58:20,465
and she still had on her
pajamas and her nightgown.
1136
00:58:20,466 --> 00:58:23,011
Babe said to Bertha, she said,
1137
00:58:23,012 --> 00:58:26,719
can you take me out to
Colonial Country Club?
1138
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:29,103
And Bertha said yes, I got
the Bertha Station Wagon.
1139
00:58:29,104 --> 00:58:30,648
And they drove out.
1140
00:58:30,649 --> 00:58:32,305
They drove along this little dirt road
1141
00:58:32,306 --> 00:58:35,119
that went up next to the second green.
1142
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:37,133
And Bertha helped Babe out of the car.
1143
00:58:37,134 --> 00:58:40,148
And she said I just wanted
to see a golf course
1144
00:58:40,149 --> 00:58:41,316
one more time.
1145
00:58:53,299 --> 00:58:56,799
You know, it was terrible for a lot of us.
1146
00:58:58,224 --> 00:59:00,807
She died of cancer, you know.
1147
00:59:04,195 --> 00:59:08,195
Well that's I don't want
to go through all that.
1148
00:59:16,304 --> 00:59:17,387
It was sad.
1149
00:59:18,227 --> 00:59:19,771
And it was sad that it would happen
1150
00:59:19,772 --> 00:59:21,562
to somebody like her
because she looked so strong
1151
00:59:21,563 --> 00:59:22,813
and so healthy.
1152
00:59:27,109 --> 00:59:31,109
Never missed a beat
mentally till her dying day.
1153
00:59:32,585 --> 00:59:34,502
And we all admired her.
1154
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:47,825
I'm sorry she passed away.
1155
00:59:47,826 --> 00:59:51,698
I'm sorry anybody passes
away for that matter.
1156
00:59:51,699 --> 00:59:54,717
I'll grieve for Babe in my own way.
1157
00:59:54,718 --> 00:59:56,385
That was what I did.
1158
01:00:09,929 --> 01:00:13,297
That was such a tragedy to us
1159
01:00:13,298 --> 01:00:15,020
because she was our drawing card.
1160
01:00:15,021 --> 01:00:17,251
Because she was there, we were there.
1161
01:00:17,252 --> 01:00:18,669
She was the star.
1162
01:00:19,507 --> 01:00:21,954
And people came because they knew here
1163
01:00:21,955 --> 01:00:26,374
and then they began to
know us because of her.
1164
01:00:26,375 --> 01:00:29,149
People were afraid
that maybe the LPGA Tour
1165
01:00:29,150 --> 01:00:30,801
would fall apart.
1166
01:00:30,802 --> 01:00:34,284
Because the LPGA had been sold on Babe,
1167
01:00:34,285 --> 01:00:37,050
I think it was very difficult.
1168
01:00:37,051 --> 01:00:39,384
It was a huge blow for them.
1169
01:00:42,025 --> 01:00:44,276
We did all crazy things
to try to get people
1170
01:00:44,277 --> 01:00:45,803
to come watch us.
1171
01:00:45,804 --> 01:00:47,370
Shirley and I went to a boxing match
1172
01:00:47,371 --> 01:00:49,738
to again try to get support.
1173
01:00:49,739 --> 01:00:52,256
We had to sit there and watch the fight.
1174
01:00:52,257 --> 01:00:55,528
They were punching each
other and squirting the blood
1175
01:00:55,529 --> 01:00:58,479
and it sweat beyond on Marilynn.
1176
01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:01,175
I got woozy and I
couldn't go into the ring.
1177
01:01:01,176 --> 01:01:02,625
But Shirley did.
1178
01:01:02,626 --> 01:01:04,091
She walked through those ropes.
1179
01:01:04,092 --> 01:01:06,605
They ring the bell and ruh ruh ruh
1180
01:01:06,606 --> 01:01:10,073
and this is Shirley Spork and
come out to the National Open
1181
01:01:10,074 --> 01:01:13,331
and see the golfers
tomorrow or the next day.
1182
01:01:13,332 --> 01:01:15,877
And you know, all the boxers, boo, boo.
1183
01:01:15,878 --> 01:01:18,825
I don't know if any of
those boxing fans came,
1184
01:01:18,826 --> 01:01:22,826
but we did everything we
could to get publicity.
1185
01:01:23,945 --> 01:01:25,390
People are really staring at you.
1186
01:01:25,391 --> 01:01:29,031
And some are probably looking
to hope that you foul up.
1187
01:01:29,032 --> 01:01:31,472
Did we worry that we were gonna survive?
1188
01:01:31,473 --> 01:01:34,721
I think every year we went
home after the season,
1189
01:01:34,722 --> 01:01:38,154
we didn't know what the
next season was gonna bring.
1190
01:01:38,155 --> 01:01:39,988
It was always a worry.
1191
01:01:41,893 --> 01:01:43,453
We had to get more players.
1192
01:01:43,454 --> 01:01:45,230
You got to show that you're producing,
1193
01:01:45,231 --> 01:01:48,175
like planting a plant, is it gonna grow?
1194
01:01:48,176 --> 01:01:50,217
Are you gonna feed it, then it'll grow.
1195
01:01:50,218 --> 01:01:53,126
It's true that today,
1196
01:01:53,127 --> 01:01:55,187
men still monopolize the sport.
1197
01:01:55,188 --> 01:01:57,425
Out of approximately 10 million golfers
1198
01:01:57,426 --> 01:02:01,984
in the United States, only two
and a half million are women.
1199
01:02:01,985 --> 01:02:04,823
But ladies' golf is growing in popularity.
1200
01:02:04,824 --> 01:02:07,002
And much of the credit for this growth
1201
01:02:07,003 --> 01:02:09,142
goes to the LPGA.
1202
01:02:09,143 --> 01:02:12,540
The Ladies Professional Golf Association.
1203
01:02:12,541 --> 01:02:15,399
There are
great players like Patty Berg
1204
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:17,937
and Betsy Rawls and Mickey Wright
1205
01:02:17,938 --> 01:02:20,379
who have played well for many, many years.
1206
01:02:20,380 --> 01:02:23,120
♪ From the day that we first met
1207
01:02:23,121 --> 01:02:25,042
The future of
ladies' professional golf
1208
01:02:25,043 --> 01:02:26,889
really depends on the young pros
1209
01:02:26,890 --> 01:02:30,430
that are now just getting started.
1210
01:02:30,431 --> 01:02:33,754
♪ I don't need to be boastful
1211
01:02:33,755 --> 01:02:35,582
I also feel that the,
1212
01:02:35,583 --> 01:02:38,345
the gals as times goes
on will find their tour
1213
01:02:38,346 --> 01:02:40,617
increasing not only in interest,
1214
01:02:40,618 --> 01:02:43,451
but the volume of the tournaments,
1215
01:02:44,483 --> 01:02:46,761
the amount of money they're
playing for and so forth
1216
01:02:46,762 --> 01:02:48,675
will also increase simply because
1217
01:02:48,676 --> 01:02:52,039
golf has become so popular with the ladies
1218
01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:53,701
in the United States.
1219
01:02:53,702 --> 01:02:57,360
♪ I'm gonna keep on loving you
1220
01:02:57,361 --> 01:03:01,528
♪ To never never never stay with me
1221
01:03:02,493 --> 01:03:04,336
When I started
back in '62 I think we had
1222
01:03:04,337 --> 01:03:06,652
30, 35 players a week at best.
1223
01:03:06,653 --> 01:03:10,403
And now we have many
times 80 and 90 players.
1224
01:03:12,467 --> 01:03:16,656
♪ We're gonna erase all the pain
1225
01:03:16,657 --> 01:03:20,824
♪ And start out just with me and you
1226
01:03:21,926 --> 01:03:23,933
I think all of the players that today
1227
01:03:23,934 --> 01:03:25,935
have beautiful golf swings,
1228
01:03:25,936 --> 01:03:29,554
have the great will to win and desire.
1229
01:03:29,555 --> 01:03:31,987
We're starting our progress now
1230
01:03:31,988 --> 01:03:33,806
and I don't think there's any stopping.
1231
01:03:33,807 --> 01:03:36,739
We're just climbing the ladder now.
1232
01:03:36,740 --> 01:03:39,019
We're just about there, I think.
1233
01:03:39,020 --> 01:03:41,270
All we can do now is go up.
1234
01:03:42,465 --> 01:03:44,000
Althea Gibson Darbin
1235
01:03:44,001 --> 01:03:47,307
is probably one of the outstanding
tennis stars of all time.
1236
01:03:47,308 --> 01:03:49,894
She turned to professional golf in 1963
1237
01:03:49,895 --> 01:03:52,751
and has made a good showing for herself.
1238
01:03:52,752 --> 01:03:55,142
Althea's athletic skill and
her marvelous sense of humor
1239
01:03:55,143 --> 01:03:57,201
have endeared her to both golf fans
1240
01:03:57,202 --> 01:03:58,652
and the girls on the tour.
1241
01:03:58,653 --> 01:04:02,336
Althea Gibson was the
first African-American woman
1242
01:04:02,337 --> 01:04:04,012
to play on the tour.
1243
01:04:04,013 --> 01:04:08,180
Well Althea won Wimbledon
twice which was extraordinary
1244
01:04:09,102 --> 01:04:12,145
and then when she retired from tennis,
1245
01:04:12,146 --> 01:04:15,976
she decided she wanted to
take up professional golf.
1246
01:04:15,977 --> 01:04:17,021
Here's
former US and Wimbledon
1247
01:04:17,022 --> 01:04:19,539
tennis champion Althea Gibson Darbin,
1248
01:04:19,540 --> 01:04:22,186
into professional golf now.
1249
01:04:22,187 --> 01:04:23,709
And I don't know how she managed,
1250
01:04:23,710 --> 01:04:26,353
I mean how she managed even
to play professional golf,
1251
01:04:26,354 --> 01:04:27,501
I don't know.
1252
01:04:27,502 --> 01:04:31,446
But to manage as an
African-American in those days
1253
01:04:31,447 --> 01:04:34,947
really was a very difficult path to tread.
1254
01:04:37,090 --> 01:04:39,554
We were playing a tournament in Texas.
1255
01:04:39,555 --> 01:04:41,396
And they wouldn't allow
her in the clubhouse.
1256
01:04:41,397 --> 01:04:43,259
So Lenny Works was our tournament director
1257
01:04:43,260 --> 01:04:47,064
and all of us decided to
not play at that course
1258
01:04:47,065 --> 01:04:49,919
and move someplace else
where she would be accepted.
1259
01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:53,587
We took care of each
other no matter what.
1260
01:04:54,526 --> 01:04:55,823
We didn't believe in that.
1261
01:04:55,824 --> 01:04:58,015
That's what we were fighting for,
1262
01:04:58,016 --> 01:04:59,849
was equality as women.
1263
01:05:01,371 --> 01:05:04,657
In fact, we boycotted three tournaments
1264
01:05:04,658 --> 01:05:07,905
because they wouldn't let
Althea change her shoes.
1265
01:05:07,906 --> 01:05:09,539
She had to change her shoes in the car.
1266
01:05:09,540 --> 01:05:11,523
So finally there were a couple of places
1267
01:05:11,524 --> 01:05:14,132
that we did not play because of that.
1268
01:05:14,133 --> 01:05:16,225
Baton Rouge was one of them.
1269
01:05:16,226 --> 01:05:18,191
As you can well imagine.
1270
01:05:18,192 --> 01:05:20,101
This is indicative of a true champion.
1271
01:05:20,102 --> 01:05:23,769
Thos who can sustain,
stay out there and win
1272
01:05:24,841 --> 01:05:27,508
championship after championship.
1273
01:05:28,831 --> 01:05:33,020
And when Renee Powell
came along after her,
1274
01:05:33,021 --> 01:05:35,998
it was still unbelievably
difficult for Renee
1275
01:05:35,999 --> 01:05:38,582
and she suffered a lot as well.
1276
01:05:39,971 --> 01:05:41,442
I knew there were a lot of issues
1277
01:05:41,443 --> 01:05:43,720
certainly in our country.
1278
01:05:43,721 --> 01:05:45,972
We had a lot of racial issues.
1279
01:05:45,973 --> 01:05:49,281
And I certainly had problems at hotels.
1280
01:05:49,282 --> 01:05:51,190
I had problems at restaurants.
1281
01:05:51,191 --> 01:05:53,343
I had problems sometimes
just trying to get
1282
01:05:53,344 --> 01:05:56,070
into the locker room at various clubs.
1283
01:05:56,071 --> 01:06:00,464
My peers on the tour,
they were like a family.
1284
01:06:00,465 --> 01:06:02,163
If something, if there was an issue
1285
01:06:02,164 --> 01:06:03,335
and somebody knew about it,
1286
01:06:03,336 --> 01:06:05,757
they would always come to my defense.
1287
01:06:05,758 --> 01:06:08,084
That's one thing that the
LPGA were very proud of.
1288
01:06:08,085 --> 01:06:12,252
We don't care what color you
are or what, you're accepted.
1289
01:06:13,501 --> 01:06:17,668
And the LPGA is far more
accepting than the PGA ever was.
1290
01:06:20,621 --> 01:06:22,268
The struggle of women in this country
1291
01:06:22,269 --> 01:06:24,987
and the struggle of people
of color in the country
1292
01:06:24,988 --> 01:06:27,429
sort of run parallel which is something
1293
01:06:27,430 --> 01:06:31,001
that I've always sort of
understood because I've been both.
1294
01:06:31,002 --> 01:06:33,353
I am both, you know?
1295
01:06:33,354 --> 01:06:37,067
I think about growing up
and being Hispanic and female,
1296
01:06:37,068 --> 01:06:40,159
there were times I couldn't
play at certain times.
1297
01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:42,610
And with respect to the
men, I think it's, you know,
1298
01:06:42,611 --> 01:06:44,279
it's definitely a man's world back then.
1299
01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:47,945
They were pioneers in
the really women's sport,
1300
01:06:47,946 --> 01:06:50,011
not just golf but women's sport.
1301
01:06:50,012 --> 01:06:51,980
I mean it really was the forerunner
1302
01:06:51,981 --> 01:06:53,696
of all of women's sports.
1303
01:06:53,697 --> 01:06:55,560
You know when we talk about title IX,
1304
01:06:55,561 --> 01:06:59,311
it came along long after
the LPGA was formed.
1305
01:07:02,182 --> 01:07:04,432
♪ Will you
1306
01:07:06,219 --> 01:07:08,469
♪ Will you
1307
01:07:10,569 --> 01:07:13,736
♪ Will you be my love
1308
01:07:18,721 --> 01:07:22,036
♪ Somebody's gonna hold my hand
1309
01:07:22,037 --> 01:07:25,297
♪ Somebody's gonna understand
1310
01:07:25,298 --> 01:07:28,241
♪ Somebody's gonna treat me right
1311
01:07:28,242 --> 01:07:32,066
♪ And give me loving both day and night
1312
01:07:32,067 --> 01:07:34,925
♪ They're gonna think
of what I'm thinking off
1313
01:07:34,926 --> 01:07:37,201
♪ And they will give give give
1314
01:07:37,202 --> 01:07:38,457
♪ Give me some love
1315
01:07:38,458 --> 01:07:41,339
♪ I wanna know
1316
01:07:41,340 --> 01:07:43,038
♪ Will you be my love
1317
01:07:43,039 --> 01:07:44,302
The opportunities weren't there
1318
01:07:44,303 --> 01:07:46,645
and I think that's what's
been frustrating to the woman
1319
01:07:46,646 --> 01:07:48,349
who wants to be an athlete.
1320
01:07:48,350 --> 01:07:50,904
And I think the
perception is that a female
1321
01:07:50,905 --> 01:07:52,905
is never a true athlete.
1322
01:07:54,479 --> 01:07:56,608
I think it's harder for
women to be athletes
1323
01:07:56,609 --> 01:08:00,776
and when they succeed, it's
more of an accomplishment.
1324
01:08:03,139 --> 01:08:05,212
♪ Give give give give give me some love
1325
01:08:05,213 --> 01:08:07,327
At one, Sheehan
was the only one off the green.
1326
01:08:07,328 --> 01:08:10,139
The Europeans were close.
1327
01:08:10,140 --> 01:08:12,170
But not close enough.
1328
01:08:12,171 --> 01:08:13,780
I didn't plan on it.
1329
01:08:13,781 --> 01:08:17,659
It wasn't something that I
came out this big announcement.
1330
01:08:17,660 --> 01:08:20,718
I just was tired of living in the closet.
1331
01:08:20,719 --> 01:08:23,636
It really wasn't even talked about.
1332
01:08:24,789 --> 01:08:27,372
I think that there were
some of the players
1333
01:08:27,373 --> 01:08:29,795
probably knew and some didn't
1334
01:08:29,796 --> 01:08:31,343
and it was just an accepted thing
1335
01:08:31,344 --> 01:08:35,524
that this is who she is and
she's a hell of a player
1336
01:08:35,525 --> 01:08:37,442
and let's go play golf.
1337
01:08:40,905 --> 01:08:43,464
♪ Give give give give give me some love
1338
01:08:43,465 --> 01:08:46,602
♪ I wanna know
1339
01:08:46,603 --> 01:08:49,770
♪ Will you be my love
1340
01:08:50,625 --> 01:08:53,628
I know when I was a
rookie, I thought, well
1341
01:08:53,629 --> 01:08:54,955
we're gonna catch up with the guys
1342
01:08:54,956 --> 01:08:57,704
and our purses are gonna be
close to what they're making
1343
01:08:57,705 --> 01:09:02,047
and now 2014, I think
we're about as far back
1344
01:09:02,048 --> 01:09:03,798
as we were back then.
1345
01:09:04,765 --> 01:09:06,813
The purses between men and women's is,
1346
01:09:06,814 --> 01:09:08,058
it's always challenging.
1347
01:09:08,059 --> 01:09:10,316
I think obviously you know, our founders
1348
01:09:10,317 --> 01:09:15,099
battled the same thing,
it's still a current thing.
1349
01:09:15,100 --> 01:09:16,592
You look at some of the telecast
1350
01:09:16,593 --> 01:09:18,535
and you watch the coverage
and the way we're talked about
1351
01:09:18,536 --> 01:09:21,834
is we're talked about as
females, what we wear.
1352
01:09:21,835 --> 01:09:23,853
How we're dressed, how we act
1353
01:09:23,854 --> 01:09:27,144
instead of our golf swings
and the shots we can hit.
1354
01:09:27,145 --> 01:09:29,210
And that's something that
we still struggle with
1355
01:09:29,211 --> 01:09:32,973
and until we get to the point
where we're seen as athletes,
1356
01:09:32,974 --> 01:09:35,604
we're gonna continue
to have smaller purses
1357
01:09:35,605 --> 01:09:36,605
as the guys.
1358
01:09:39,411 --> 01:09:40,945
The PGA tour's viewership today
1359
01:09:40,946 --> 01:09:43,895
is probably three to some cases four times
1360
01:09:43,896 --> 01:09:45,835
the viewership of the women's event.
1361
01:09:45,836 --> 01:09:47,834
And as a result of higher
viewership, they can charge
1362
01:09:47,835 --> 01:09:49,306
a higher sponsorship.
1363
01:09:49,307 --> 01:09:50,688
And as a result of higher sponsorship,
1364
01:09:50,689 --> 01:09:51,970
they can create a bigger purse.
1365
01:09:51,971 --> 01:09:54,187
I wanna see our players
playing for more money.
1366
01:09:54,188 --> 01:09:56,425
I want to see our players
playing on a bigger stage.
1367
01:09:56,426 --> 01:09:59,843
And getting the credit that they deserve.
1368
01:10:07,933 --> 01:10:09,939
People don't know how good we are.
1369
01:10:17,486 --> 01:10:20,246
I want the girls 20 years
from now playing for more money
1370
01:10:20,247 --> 01:10:22,229
and playing better golf courses.
1371
01:10:22,230 --> 01:10:24,646
Playing the courses the guys
play every year, I think.
1372
01:10:24,647 --> 01:10:25,904
'Cause I think we can.
1373
01:10:25,905 --> 01:10:27,443
People think that we're not good enough.
1374
01:10:27,444 --> 01:10:31,527
But we can for sure, we
can play with those guys.
1375
01:10:32,363 --> 01:10:33,625
I think thus far, the biggest message
1376
01:10:33,626 --> 01:10:37,329
I like to give to our daughter, that it's,
1377
01:10:37,330 --> 01:10:39,650
you have a dream and it can happen.
1378
01:10:39,651 --> 01:10:43,994
It really can, you just have
to go about it and do it.
1379
01:10:43,995 --> 01:10:45,959
Even with our son, I
want them to know that
1380
01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:47,681
obviously he can do it too.
1381
01:10:47,682 --> 01:10:50,329
But the girls can do it equally as well.
1382
01:10:50,330 --> 01:10:51,830
So get used to it.
1383
01:10:55,613 --> 01:10:59,213
I was a rookie in 1996 and I just won
1384
01:10:59,214 --> 01:11:01,993
the Sprint Titleholder's
Tournament which was
1385
01:11:01,994 --> 01:11:05,640
at that stage before the,
not including the US Open
1386
01:11:05,641 --> 01:11:07,811
it was the biggest purse on the LPGA.
1387
01:11:07,812 --> 01:11:10,821
And I won 180,000 dollars first place.
1388
01:11:10,822 --> 01:11:13,739
And Louise was in the media center.
1389
01:11:14,623 --> 01:11:16,704
The first thing she said to me was
1390
01:11:16,705 --> 01:11:20,045
you know girl, you won more money today
1391
01:11:20,046 --> 01:11:22,629
than I won in my entire career.
1392
01:11:24,105 --> 01:11:26,770
And you know, that really
puts it in perspective,
1393
01:11:26,771 --> 01:11:30,895
a 21 year old, I thought I
was loaded at the time too
1394
01:11:30,896 --> 01:11:34,674
so to think that someone
had won and accomplished
1395
01:11:34,675 --> 01:11:36,298
that much in the game of golf
1396
01:11:36,299 --> 01:11:38,739
and I had just achieved
financially what she had
1397
01:11:38,740 --> 01:11:40,407
in her whole career.
1398
01:11:42,795 --> 01:11:45,613
She said it with all the
pride that a mom would have.
1399
01:11:45,614 --> 01:11:49,543
She almost, it was almost
overjoyed with the comment.
1400
01:11:49,544 --> 01:11:51,150
And I thought right there,
1401
01:11:51,151 --> 01:11:53,117
that's what separates the
LPGA from other sports.
1402
01:11:53,118 --> 01:11:55,606
These women take pride in
creating those opportunities
1403
01:11:55,607 --> 01:11:57,884
when a lot of other sports
almost have a bitterness
1404
01:11:57,885 --> 01:12:01,968
about the fact that they
played in the wrong era.
1405
01:12:03,769 --> 01:12:04,916
I always do.
1406
01:12:04,917 --> 01:12:05,749
Oh good.
1407
01:12:05,750 --> 01:12:06,713
You know people come to me and say
1408
01:12:06,714 --> 01:12:08,263
oh aren't you upset?
1409
01:12:08,264 --> 01:12:10,286
I mean, god what could you be making now
1410
01:12:10,287 --> 01:12:11,883
if you'd done the same thing.
1411
01:12:11,884 --> 01:12:14,190
I said no, I don't look
at things that way.
1412
01:12:14,191 --> 01:12:17,219
Everything has a, I really don't.
1413
01:12:20,487 --> 01:12:21,803
They're devoting a great deal of money
1414
01:12:21,804 --> 01:12:24,721
to help promote junior girl's golf.
1415
01:12:25,706 --> 01:12:29,598
And that's where we got
to keep going forward,
1416
01:12:29,599 --> 01:12:31,682
getting new young talent.
1417
01:12:33,501 --> 01:12:36,454
We made over $81,000 last
year in this tournament.
1418
01:12:36,455 --> 01:12:39,232
We think we're gonna make
over 100,000 this year.
1419
01:12:39,233 --> 01:12:43,056
And we're gonna give, we
gave $25,000 scholarships
1420
01:12:43,057 --> 01:12:45,481
to help young girls go to college.
1421
01:12:45,482 --> 01:12:46,644
And hold your finish.
1422
01:12:46,645 --> 01:12:49,210
And forefinger and thumb and
toll the club to the target.
1423
01:12:49,211 --> 01:12:52,814
It's just a wonderful
opportunity to inspire young women
1424
01:12:52,815 --> 01:12:56,982
for character and honesty and
hard work and determination.
1425
01:12:58,972 --> 01:13:00,657
Yeah, the LPGA's mission is simple.
1426
01:13:00,658 --> 01:13:04,048
We want to be the preeminent
women's sports organization.
1427
01:13:04,049 --> 01:13:05,329
And we want to do that by attracting
1428
01:13:05,330 --> 01:13:07,358
the best female golfers in the world.
1429
01:13:07,359 --> 01:13:09,180
Be the best women's organization,
1430
01:13:09,181 --> 01:13:11,165
bring in the best and put them on display,
1431
01:13:11,166 --> 01:13:12,904
and through that display effort,
1432
01:13:12,905 --> 01:13:14,356
make sure we leave the game better
1433
01:13:14,357 --> 01:13:16,548
and more opportunistic
for the next generation
1434
01:13:16,549 --> 01:13:17,996
of women in golf.
1435
01:13:17,997 --> 01:13:20,082
We have five tours.
1436
01:13:20,083 --> 01:13:21,000
Five tours.
1437
01:13:22,662 --> 01:13:25,106
Not one tour, we have five tours.
1438
01:13:25,107 --> 01:13:29,023
We have the Japanese,
European, Korean, Australian.
1439
01:13:29,024 --> 01:13:31,303
We have to learn your language, right?
1440
01:13:31,304 --> 01:13:32,779
You gonna teach us?
1441
01:13:32,780 --> 01:13:33,927
All right.
1442
01:13:33,928 --> 01:13:35,236
Fact that women from all over the world
1443
01:13:35,237 --> 01:13:39,143
go and make a living playing
golf, more than a living.
1444
01:13:39,144 --> 01:13:40,685
They can do incredibly well.
1445
01:13:40,686 --> 01:13:42,750
And they have to thank
those women pioneers.
1446
01:13:52,583 --> 01:13:54,500
You're playing great.
1447
01:14:05,374 --> 01:14:06,610
We created the Founder's Cup
1448
01:14:06,611 --> 01:14:09,077
because personally for me, I found,
1449
01:14:09,078 --> 01:14:12,330
I was gaining strength from
learning about the founders
1450
01:14:12,331 --> 01:14:14,646
and what drove them and
what was important to them.
1451
01:14:14,647 --> 01:14:16,090
And I realize that that strength was still
1452
01:14:16,091 --> 01:14:17,744
completely relevant today.
1453
01:14:17,745 --> 01:14:20,870
But I wasn't sure that my young,
19, 20, 21 year old players
1454
01:14:20,871 --> 01:14:23,048
were getting that same opportunity to see,
1455
01:14:23,049 --> 01:14:27,216
hear, feel the strength
that came from 60 years ago.
1456
01:14:37,088 --> 01:14:39,026
That's almost too
short, don't you think?
1457
01:14:39,027 --> 01:14:40,038
That skirt?
1458
01:14:40,039 --> 01:14:41,122
I think so.
1459
01:14:46,322 --> 01:14:47,572
Good for you.
1460
01:14:49,937 --> 01:14:51,071
How did you do?
1461
01:14:51,072 --> 01:14:51,904
Wonderful, six under.
1462
01:14:51,905 --> 01:14:53,311
Hi, how are you?
1463
01:14:53,312 --> 01:14:56,606
Thanks for wearing pink today.
1464
01:14:56,607 --> 01:14:57,752
Say Founder's Cup.
1465
01:14:57,753 --> 01:15:00,003
Founder's Cup.
1466
01:15:03,999 --> 01:15:07,783
To think we started with 13 players.
1467
01:15:07,784 --> 01:15:10,023
Look where we are now.
1468
01:15:10,024 --> 01:15:12,462
Isn't that something?
1469
01:15:13,681 --> 01:15:14,598
13 players.
1470
01:15:29,444 --> 01:15:30,740
Shirley's 87, you
gotta be careful with her.
1471
01:15:30,741 --> 01:15:32,509
Shirley? She's not.
1472
01:15:32,510 --> 01:15:33,343
You're 87?
1473
01:15:34,546 --> 01:15:37,796
No way, you have a disposition like 57.
1474
01:15:40,216 --> 01:15:43,163
Do you have
any major regrets looking back?
1475
01:15:43,164 --> 01:15:44,475
Not about golf.
1476
01:15:44,476 --> 01:15:45,628
Yeah I guess so.
1477
01:15:45,629 --> 01:15:47,873
I would have wanted to have learned
1478
01:15:47,874 --> 01:15:49,312
a lot about music.
1479
01:15:49,313 --> 01:15:52,558
I'd like to learn how to arrange flowers.
1480
01:15:52,559 --> 01:15:54,851
I think that's an art to be able to just,
1481
01:15:54,852 --> 01:15:58,351
you just can't dump them
in a vase, you gotta.
1482
01:15:58,352 --> 01:15:59,836
This is coming down a hill.
1483
01:15:59,837 --> 01:16:00,669
You can make this.
1484
01:16:00,670 --> 01:16:01,519
She's a teacher at heart.
1485
01:16:01,520 --> 01:16:04,444
She's just teaching from the
minute she walks on the tee
1486
01:16:04,445 --> 01:16:07,012
and she still hits the dead center square
1487
01:16:07,013 --> 01:16:10,073
sweet spot of the golf
club every time she swings.
1488
01:16:10,074 --> 01:16:11,686
The hill it starts coming this way.
1489
01:16:11,687 --> 01:16:12,951
And it comes over that.
1490
01:16:12,952 --> 01:16:16,322
So I'm a founder of the tour and a founder
1491
01:16:16,323 --> 01:16:18,373
of the teaching division.
1492
01:16:18,374 --> 01:16:19,542
Put your thumbs right on it.
1493
01:16:19,543 --> 01:16:22,738
I don't get numerous prize moneys
1494
01:16:22,739 --> 01:16:26,532
but I get the feeling
that I've given something
1495
01:16:26,533 --> 01:16:28,950
to carry on the game of golf.
1496
01:16:38,816 --> 01:16:39,991
She's priceless.
1497
01:16:39,992 --> 01:16:41,527
I hope she gets in the
World Golf Hall of Fame
1498
01:16:41,528 --> 01:16:43,392
and she deserves to be in it.
1499
01:16:43,393 --> 01:16:45,863
Why
wouldn't they put her in it?
1500
01:16:45,864 --> 01:16:47,756
Part of it's political I think.
1501
01:16:47,757 --> 01:16:49,810
I don't know, I don't
know anything about it.
1502
01:16:49,811 --> 01:16:51,228
I'm lucky I'm in.
1503
01:16:58,787 --> 01:17:00,500
Where's Shirley, is she in here?
1504
01:17:00,501 --> 01:17:01,461
Come over here at the front.
1505
01:17:01,462 --> 01:17:02,294
It's you.
1506
01:17:02,295 --> 01:17:03,914
Don't get in the back.
1507
01:17:03,915 --> 01:17:05,803
Get up here in the front.
1508
01:17:05,804 --> 01:17:06,887
Please, mind.
1509
01:17:08,800 --> 01:17:09,633
There.
1510
01:17:13,264 --> 01:17:15,597
Thank you, sweety.
1511
01:17:16,847 --> 01:17:18,982
You're a hero,
what a legacy you've had.
1512
01:17:18,983 --> 01:17:20,778
How does it feel to be?
1513
01:17:20,779 --> 01:17:21,939
I'm just an ordinary person
1514
01:17:21,940 --> 01:17:24,357
who's lived an ordinary life.
1515
01:17:25,749 --> 01:17:26,913
Thank you.
1516
01:17:26,914 --> 01:17:27,986
Now here's something for you all.
1517
01:17:27,987 --> 01:17:30,378
I spent a lot of time talking to players
1518
01:17:30,379 --> 01:17:31,451
about how to treat customers.
1519
01:17:31,452 --> 01:17:33,166
About how to treat those
that are outside the ropes.
1520
01:17:33,167 --> 01:17:35,722
What I really should have
done now that I know Marilynn
1521
01:17:35,723 --> 01:17:38,640
is just introduce Marilynn
and left the room.
1522
01:17:38,641 --> 01:17:40,344
She sends me a thank you
note every time we talk
1523
01:17:40,345 --> 01:17:41,738
even if it's a phone conversation.
1524
01:17:41,739 --> 01:17:43,099
I'll get a handwritten note saying
1525
01:17:43,100 --> 01:17:44,754
thanks for the time today, Commish.
1526
01:17:44,755 --> 01:17:46,204
These magnets to all
of you before you go.
1527
01:17:46,205 --> 01:17:48,232
It has the name of our tournament on it.
1528
01:17:48,233 --> 01:17:49,761
Well I've met five Presidents
1529
01:17:49,762 --> 01:17:53,004
and been to all 50 states and 37 countries
1530
01:17:53,005 --> 01:17:54,405
just because of golf.
1531
01:17:54,406 --> 01:17:57,631
Look what golf has given
to me and it's awesome.
1532
01:18:04,627 --> 01:18:07,811
There's my trophy, my World
Golf Hall of Fame trophy.
1533
01:18:07,812 --> 01:18:09,842
You want me to hold it,
you want a picture of that?
1534
01:18:09,843 --> 01:18:10,990
Ooh it's heavy, isn't it?
1535
01:18:10,991 --> 01:18:12,270
Did you get it?
1536
01:18:12,271 --> 01:18:14,188
Can't hold it too long.
1537
01:18:15,243 --> 01:18:18,993
It's my prized possession,
I guess you'd say.
1538
01:18:20,036 --> 01:18:22,119
Something that's special.
1539
01:18:23,311 --> 01:18:26,061
Can you come and get this, honey?
1540
01:18:33,527 --> 01:18:34,673
I got to give you a hug.
1541
01:18:34,674 --> 01:18:36,665
Because body language tells
me you're a good person.
1542
01:18:36,666 --> 01:18:38,240
Thank you so much.
1543
01:18:38,241 --> 01:18:39,389
I'm serious.
1544
01:18:39,390 --> 01:18:40,222
He's the best we got.
1545
01:18:40,223 --> 01:18:41,055
Let me just get your mic.
1546
01:18:41,056 --> 01:18:43,533
You have the right heartbeat.
1547
01:18:43,534 --> 01:18:47,399
When I think of Marlene, I
think of longevity in golf.
1548
01:18:47,400 --> 01:18:49,407
You just can't imagine that this woman
1549
01:18:49,408 --> 01:18:51,585
could have gone on all those years.
1550
01:18:51,586 --> 01:18:53,732
This is Marlena
Bauer Hagge sinks a big one.
1551
01:18:53,733 --> 01:18:56,966
You know, she'd played
professional golf at top level
1552
01:18:56,967 --> 01:18:58,227
all that time.
1553
01:18:58,228 --> 01:18:59,657
How did she do it?
1554
01:18:59,658 --> 01:19:01,168
I have no idea.
1555
01:19:01,169 --> 01:19:04,228
I mean quite remarkable woman.
1556
01:19:04,229 --> 01:19:06,939
It's like I lived
several different lifetimes
1557
01:19:06,940 --> 01:19:09,607
because of things that happened.
1558
01:19:11,722 --> 01:19:14,956
I don't know how to describe it.
1559
01:19:14,957 --> 01:19:18,707
Certainly nothing boring
or mundane about it.
1560
01:19:22,277 --> 01:19:24,159
If I could play another round of golf
1561
01:19:24,160 --> 01:19:28,327
with somebody of the original
13, it would be my sister.
1562
01:19:35,706 --> 01:19:38,206
Because I could see her again.
1563
01:19:51,442 --> 01:19:53,713
Uh huh, oh this is good.
1564
01:19:53,714 --> 01:19:55,592
Babe and look at that hairdo.
1565
01:19:55,593 --> 01:19:57,067
Babe and Louise shaking hands.
1566
01:19:57,068 --> 01:19:59,036
That's a good one.
1567
01:19:59,037 --> 01:20:02,583
After a tournament probably, you know.
1568
01:20:02,584 --> 01:20:05,070
In 1988, Patty Berg had taken the bus
1569
01:20:05,071 --> 01:20:08,488
to attend a dinner honoring Louise Suggs.
1570
01:20:09,356 --> 01:20:12,872
And she said to me, she said, you know?
1571
01:20:12,873 --> 01:20:17,040
I think Louise acted as if she
was really glad I was there.
1572
01:20:17,937 --> 01:20:21,326
And she said, I was happy to go.
1573
01:20:21,327 --> 01:20:25,648
And I was delighted that she
seemed happy I was there.
1574
01:20:25,649 --> 01:20:29,235
She said because Louise and
I didn't always get along.
1575
01:20:29,236 --> 01:20:31,801
And she said I think it was because
1576
01:20:31,802 --> 01:20:34,302
I was a good friend of Babe's.
1577
01:20:36,441 --> 01:20:39,071
And she kind of settled
back in the car seat
1578
01:20:39,072 --> 01:20:41,758
and just stared out the
window and said to me,
1579
01:20:41,759 --> 01:20:43,950
I think everything's okay now.
1580
01:20:43,951 --> 01:20:47,766
On one of Louise's visits
to our club, her club,
1581
01:20:47,767 --> 01:20:49,951
having lunch, she asked me
1582
01:20:49,952 --> 01:20:52,417
if I would give her a tour
and I brought her down here
1583
01:20:52,418 --> 01:20:54,001
to the lower level.
1584
01:20:55,061 --> 01:20:58,002
And as she turned the
corner from over here,
1585
01:20:58,003 --> 01:21:02,170
and she spotted this piece
of artwork of the Babe,
1586
01:21:03,961 --> 01:21:06,922
she stood there and her face got red
1587
01:21:06,923 --> 01:21:11,312
and she says what in the
holy hell is this woman doing
1588
01:21:11,313 --> 01:21:13,813
hanging on the wall of my club
1589
01:21:14,763 --> 01:21:17,082
and there's no artwork of me?
1590
01:21:17,083 --> 01:21:20,059
And I said Louise,
Louise, please calm down.
1591
01:21:20,060 --> 01:21:23,316
This is the basement area of the club.
1592
01:21:23,317 --> 01:21:26,814
Over my shoulder, pretty
soon there's going to be
1593
01:21:26,815 --> 01:21:29,863
an original piece of artwork of you.
1594
01:21:29,864 --> 01:21:32,364
And that is on top of the Babe
1595
01:21:33,921 --> 01:21:38,088
where you have always been and
how we always will see you.
1596
01:21:38,950 --> 01:21:41,740
And that seemed to calm her down.
1597
01:21:41,741 --> 01:21:45,574
In all fairness and
due process or whatever,
1598
01:21:47,484 --> 01:21:50,550
without Babe, Babe Zaharias,
1599
01:21:50,551 --> 01:21:52,172
we probably wouldn't have made it.
1600
01:21:52,173 --> 01:21:55,787
Louise Suggs was probably
the one that did the most
1601
01:21:55,788 --> 01:21:57,038
through it all.
1602
01:21:57,941 --> 01:22:01,277
She was really dedicated,
not that other weren't.
1603
01:22:01,278 --> 01:22:05,445
And she never got the credit
that she should have got.
1604
01:22:15,567 --> 01:22:16,400
Ah.
1605
01:22:31,072 --> 01:22:33,489
You know, it's the first time
1606
01:22:36,783 --> 01:22:38,366
that I've ever been
1607
01:22:44,521 --> 01:22:46,438
up there with big boys.
1608
01:23:31,003 --> 01:23:35,086
I think you have to keep
looking and searching.
1609
01:23:36,655 --> 01:23:40,822
Someday you'll find something,
a real spot you wanna enjoy.
1610
01:23:42,462 --> 01:23:45,045
Then you can sit down and rest.
1611
01:23:46,381 --> 01:23:47,714
I was blessed.
1612
01:23:48,574 --> 01:23:52,639
I've had so many wonderful
blessings because of golf
1613
01:23:52,640 --> 01:23:55,030
and the people that I've met along the way
1614
01:23:55,031 --> 01:23:56,230
and the travels.
1615
01:23:56,231 --> 01:23:59,298
I mean it's just, we were
blessed by the Lord or something
1616
01:23:59,299 --> 01:24:02,132
because it's bigger than ever now.
1617
01:24:03,122 --> 01:24:04,825
It's pretty exciting to be sitting here.
1618
01:24:04,826 --> 01:24:06,890
Because you know, if they haven't,
1619
01:24:06,891 --> 01:24:09,873
weren't doing what they
were doing back then,
1620
01:24:09,874 --> 01:24:11,541
we wouldn't be here.
1621
01:24:16,536 --> 01:24:18,619
We are yes, very proud.
1622
01:24:20,856 --> 01:24:24,106
As you can see, what's happening today,
1623
01:24:26,485 --> 01:24:29,152
that's something to be proud of.
1624
01:24:36,797 --> 01:24:39,847
I still feel very fortunate
to be able to play the game
1625
01:24:39,848 --> 01:24:42,141
that I love and make a living from it.
1626
01:24:42,142 --> 01:24:46,309
And that's due to the 13 women
that started this for us.
1627
01:24:57,197 --> 01:25:01,333
I think that all of
us draw strength from,
1628
01:25:01,334 --> 01:25:05,334
if we think about it,
from what those women did.
1629
01:25:06,507 --> 01:25:09,840
We have to have the greatest respect for
1630
01:25:12,405 --> 01:25:16,572
people who have laid the
groundwork for others to follow it.
1631
01:25:37,678 --> 01:25:39,930
Well, to next year right?
1632
01:25:39,931 --> 01:25:41,296
Yep, to next year!
1633
01:25:41,297 --> 01:25:42,130
Right.
1634
01:25:44,027 --> 01:25:48,194
♪ There's a light in
my life shining over me
1635
01:25:50,944 --> 01:25:52,442
♪ There's a light in my life
1636
01:25:52,443 --> 01:25:54,943
That roller's motion, huhuhu
1637
01:25:57,157 --> 01:25:59,956
Golf is forever.
1638
01:25:59,957 --> 01:26:03,040
I'll say that again, golf is forever.
1639
01:26:04,008 --> 01:26:06,481
♪ That precious love
1640
01:26:06,482 --> 01:26:10,649
♪ There's a light in
my life shining over me
1641
01:26:12,760 --> 01:26:16,512
♪ Lord sometimes I sit and I wonder
1642
01:26:16,513 --> 01:26:20,177
♪ Why strange things happen to me
1643
01:26:20,178 --> 01:26:24,345
♪ Then again i feel my
friends are gone yeah
1644
01:26:27,393 --> 01:26:30,705
♪ But if I put my trust in Jesus
1645
01:26:30,706 --> 01:26:33,588
♪ My burdens will lighten
1646
01:26:33,589 --> 01:26:37,580
♪ Don't you see there's a light in my life
1647
01:26:37,581 --> 01:26:40,414
♪ Shining over me
1648
01:26:41,789 --> 01:26:43,628
♪ Lord walk with me
1649
01:26:43,629 --> 01:26:45,231
♪ Mm talk with me
1650
01:26:45,232 --> 01:26:48,719
♪ Please stay close by my side
1651
01:26:48,720 --> 01:26:52,127
♪ Be my chauffeur, be my comfort
1652
01:26:52,128 --> 01:26:55,045
♪ Be my guide yeah
1653
01:26:56,298 --> 01:26:58,959
♪ I was lost but now I see
1654
01:26:58,960 --> 01:27:03,241
♪ Jesus came and he rescued me
1655
01:27:03,242 --> 01:27:07,409
♪ There's a light in
my life shining over me
1656
01:27:09,890 --> 01:27:14,057
♪ There's a light in
my life shining over me
1657
01:27:17,233 --> 01:27:21,400
♪ There's a light in my
life shining over me yeah
1658
01:27:24,239 --> 01:27:27,255
♪ Let your blessing from above
1659
01:27:27,256 --> 01:27:31,677
♪ Fill me with thy gracious love
1660
01:27:31,678 --> 01:27:35,845
♪ There's a light in
my life shining over me
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