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You are the 'Daily
Mail'!
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You're puppeteering them!
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But you're...
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You're not coming
for my husband!
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Dinner is served.
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Welcome to MAFS:
After The Dinner Party.
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{\an8}I'm Jules, here with Laura
and Brittany,
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{\an8}and just when we thought
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things couldn't get any worse,
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cue the final dinner party.
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If you thought that was wild,
just wait until you see
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what we've got planned.
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Receipts that were
never meant to be seen.
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Another calculated move
revealed, bulk unseen footage
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that explains it all,
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and a guest that is here
that we never thought
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we would see on this couch.
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Well, get ready,
because tonight, the truth
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is all coming out.
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{\an8}Scott's here, following
his tragic break-up.
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{\an8}His tears are dried,
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{\an8}and, well, he's not holding
back.
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{\an8}Plus, we have a very
special guest.
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{\an8}James, Gia's ultimate match
is going to join us tonight,
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{\an8}and he is armed with receipts
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{\an8}that are absolutely going
to blow your socks off.
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{\an8}Stella and Filip are going
to join us to spill
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{\an8}all the behind-the-scenes
gossip
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{\an8}that you don't want to miss.
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Then drum roll, please.
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Pinch yourself because
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seven attempts later,
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Gia is finally in the building!
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- Yes. Is it happening?
- Yeah, you heard right.
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Gia's officially here.
Well, actually,
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whether or not she makes it,
those final steps
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to the couch, if she knows
what we know, she may not.
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I will believe it
when I see it.
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I want to make sure everyone
locks down the bathrooms, too,
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'cause we know she loves
to make a beeline.
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She does love a runner.
So, yeah, good luck to us, hey?
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Well, that dinner party
had everything tonight.
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We've seen drama within
the group before, but tonight,
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couples cracked and one even
fell apart for good.
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But amongst the chaos, one
couple remained unshakeable,
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and that's Stella and Filip.
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Let's bring them out.
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- Hey!
- Hey!
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- Welcome to the couch.
- Thank you.
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- Thanks for having us.
- Welcome back.
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- OK, shall we?
- You guys
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are the shining beacon of light
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in this whole thing
at the moment.
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Congratulations on the key
exchange. How does that feel?
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It feels amazing. Like this
is everything that I wanted
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and it was just going all-in
and going, you know what?
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This is it, like let's go.
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It really was a double whammy
because Stella not only gave you
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the key to her house,
but the key to her heart.
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Oh!
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We are rooting for you guys
and all of Australia
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is rooting for you guys.
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But this dinner party
that's just happened
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was pretty intense,
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and I think something
that we saw from you guys,
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which we haven't really seen
a lot, is that you had a lot
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to say and you really kind
of called people into line.
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Why do you feel in this instance
that you had to speak up?
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We always had something to
say, but no one was listening.
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There was too much
chaos going on!
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I'm like, I want to have a go!
Come on!
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Everyone just told to shush
for me!
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So, I'm like, you know, whatever.
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One thing we saw tonight,
which I absolutely loved,
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is when you put your foot
in it and you said,
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"Danny, congratulations!"
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Was that the most
awkward thing ever?
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You told Bec, you're in love!
And then she goes...
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What was so...
- That was hilarious.
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What was going on?
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You know, when you see
and hear things
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and they just like... In which
world, it matches?
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And instead of having rumours
going back and forth,
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I'm always like, just have
a chat about it.
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Well, about that falling
in love comment,
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we have some unseen footage
of what both Bec and Danny
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were saying at the dinner party,
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that didn't quite make the cut,
so we're going to have a look.
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- Let's see! Oh, my god!
- Cue the popcorn. Let's go!
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That's so nice, babe.
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That's so nice.
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Well, there you go.
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Oh, he's a trooper.
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When you look at that back,
who do you think
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is telling the truth?
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Do you think that he actually
said it to Bec?
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Yeah, like I think
he did, like,
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yeah, I think he did,
and she took it in a certain way
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and she was convinced.
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Have you ever been suspicious
of their relationship
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and the strength of it?
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Oh, yeah.
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Danny tried to fall in love
with Bec.
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It's just every time
there was something.
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You know, Bec was being Bec.
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- Yeah, for sure.
- And it was just like, whoa!
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And it just...
- They almost had...
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To take two steps forward,
three steps back.
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Yeah, that's exactly
what I was going to say.
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PS, that Danny's like two
days out from the ceremony
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and he's saying, "My feelings
are increasing."
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Like, that's what he said
he said, verbatim, like...
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Salesman answer!
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Exactly.
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What's it been like watching
it back?
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Because it's one thing to live
it, and it's another thing
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to sit back on your couch
at home and watch it
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because you make so many
discoveries about other couples.
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What's it been like watching
Scott and Gia's
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relationship back?
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Look, I didn't know the kind
of the mental ringer
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Scotty was getting put around.
Like he was just...
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The goalposts were
always getting moved,
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and, you know, he was always
trying to just meet Gia
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on, you know, on her terms
with absolutely everything,
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and we didn't know
it was that chaotic.
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I feel so bad for Scotty
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and he just always wanted
to believe, like, blindly,
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you know? But yeah.
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I do think though, that if he
was honest about it,
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the relationship would have
unravelled a lot faster,
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and so, like, not speaking
up is what allowed it
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to get to this point,
so far in the experiment.
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He protected her so much.
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Well, the cracks started
to show for Scott and Gia
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the last couple of weeks.
We've seen that.
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But tonight, we saw it
absolutely implode.
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The relationship is very
obviously completely
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done and dusted.
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I was holding on for dear life
the whole time.
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I think Australia was like,
"Are they going to make it?"
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I thought he was going to
go back for a second again.
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I know, everyone was yelling
at the screen, "Scott, no!"
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- Yes, yes.
- Well, Scott's here tonight.
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So, let's get him out.
- Yes!
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{\an8}- Hey!
- Hello!
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Oh, the bromance!
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- How are ya?
- Hello. How are you?
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- I'm good. How are you?
- Good, good.
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- Come, get in the sandwich.
- Come on in.
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Air hug.
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- I've got my family here.
- Very good.
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I mean, the whole country
wants to hug you.
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Yeah, yeah. Team Scott!
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I think everyone was just
heartbroken for you
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and, like, we've obviously
known that there have been
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cracks for a while, but seeing
how the dinner party
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played out, it was...
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That was really, really
emotional.
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How does it feel for you now?
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Um...
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It feels good, obviously
to get some clarity, obviously,
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but at the same time, watching
it, brings up a bit of emotions.
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- Absolutely.
- You said
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that you would come
onto the couch,
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but you didn't want Gia
on here with you.
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We're not doing that to you.
But she is here
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and she is watching
the conversations
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that we're having and...
- That's fine.
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Why didn't you want to sit
on the couch
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and do it alongside her?
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Just no matter
what I do or say,
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she's going to try and make
an excuse for it,
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so nothing will come
good out of it.
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Like I've moved past this now,
I want to move on with my life,
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and having that energy next to
me will make me feel like crap,
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so I don't need that.
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We never in a million years
could have predicted
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that it would turn out exactly
the way that it has turned out.
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Was it as bad as it looked
or was it worse?
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Yeah, it was pretty bad. Like,
every commitment ceremony,
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every dinner party, every time
I got home,
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"I'm out. I'm breaking up
with you."
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Just repeat. And I don't know
what it was, like watching it,
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I'm like, what was I doing?
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But at the same time,
the emotional manipulation
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behind it, she's so good at it,
made me feel like
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she was always in the right.
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Before we dig into it
too deep, we've got
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some footage of your final week
on the show. Let's take a look.
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I love
a good footage!
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Don't want you to be upset.
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- OK.
- What I'm going to talk about
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is feelings where I...
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I feel like I can't speak
my voice
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when I have a concern
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and it's a weakness of mine.
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This is your opportunity
to ask yourself,
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is the grass greener
on the other side?
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Well, I can't do this.
I don't want to do this.
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I instantly felt sick.
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I just want to go home
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to see my child and my mum
and get the fuck out of here
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and be out of this fake reality.
I want to go home!
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I would like you
to come with me.
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It's not happening
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'cause I just want it
to finish with you,
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- and I didn't...
- OK.
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All the best, Scott.
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I just don't think I deserve
to get a phone call
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giving me an ultimatum
to just leave this experiment.
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Oh, fuck's sake.
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I'm just speechless.
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- Yo!
- Hey, what's happening, girls?
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I'm just looking
for the beautiful Gia.
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You make a good amount
of money?
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Enough.
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I can wait another year
if I have to.
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For what? I'm literally
done in a week.
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That is disgusting!
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I just got fucked
for three months.
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I just got fucked!
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She just used me!
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Gia was meant to go home
to Melbourne when she left me.
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Turns out she wasn't even there.
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She was in Sydney
the whole time,
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saying that her daughter
was upset, crying with her,
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when all of it was a lie.
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She never even flew back
to Melbourne.
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Oh!
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My heart just really dropped.
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I didn't want to look at her.
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I feel sick.
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"Dear Scott, I came back
tonight to not leave
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"and to show you that I'm here
to bare my soul.
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"Not for the cameras,
but for you."
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It's my time to talk.
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"I'm not sure what it is that
you're looking for, Gia.
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"But I can tell you, you're
not the one for me.
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"We are a different calibre...
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"of people."
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- I'm sorry, but I'm done.
- Oh, Scott!
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I'm done.
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At the end of the day,
it was a showmance.
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All he does is use me
for my body.
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Come on! Stop!
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He'll have sex with me
but he'll never fall in love me.
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- Can you cut the shit?
- My god, can you shush?
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You guys don't know everything!
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I can see
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you're getting upset.
How do you feel
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watching yourself...
- It's OK.
253
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But in that such a vulnerable
situation.
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'Cause you give up so much
of your time for someone.
255
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- You're such a softy.
- Like, it's not just TV.
256
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- Yeah, yeah.
- I actually gave it a go.
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People may say it's fake.
It's not.
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- It's not.
- Like, that's why - it's just
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three full months, every day,
24-seven,
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trying to make a relationship
work,
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and then when you see
things like that...
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Can I ask, Scott,
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because I know that there's been
lots of conversations around it
264
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where you said, you know, that
you weren't ready to tell Gia
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that you were in love with her.
266
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Your reaction was so big,
and it was the reaction
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of someone who I would say
was in love with someone.
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Like, do you look back
on that in the time,
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think, "I actually did love
her."
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I think parts of it.
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But there's so many more things
I need to see in a woman
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before I could say I love them.
273
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How did you feel when you
were watching those things
274
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Gia said, like, "I want someone
that pays for everything.
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"I want someone
that does everything.
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"I want to be a kept woman."
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Were those conversations
she was having with you as well?
278
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Did you know that about her?
279
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No. Like I did say at the
start of the experiment,
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I want to be a man
that's a provider,
281
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but not exactly
in that sort of way.
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Like, just as if she's
a gold digger.
283
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Like I didn't really want that.
284
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Can I ask how you feel
genuinely about Gia's
285
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feelings towards you?
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Because it was a very
tumultuous ride.
287
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Like sometimes I thought,
"Oh, she really feels this."
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I don't agree with a lot of
things she's doing and saying.
289
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But I believed her connection
and feelings for you were real.
290
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And then she would flip
and do something
291
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where I thought, "Oh, hang on,
did I get sucked into that?"
292
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- Did you feel it was real?
- At times, definitely,
293
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I don't think, you know,
she was pretending.
294
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I think she genuinely was there,
like, had her best interest
295
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at heart for me.
296
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But also, too, there was a bit
of an act in terms
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of forcing me to tell her
I love her.
298
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You know, look at her right now.
299
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She's already in love
within a second.
300
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- Like... Yeah, I don't know.
- I...
301
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- It's so - sorry.
- No, no.
302
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There's just like such
a massive wave
303
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because one day,
she's so close to me
304
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when we go out together
and you feel
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that connection strong.
306
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But then the next minute,
she'll turn on me.
307
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What did you think tonight
at the dinner party,
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when she was emotive,
309
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and then the moment
you stormed off,
310
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she went on the attack
very quickly?
311
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- It just gives me more clarity.
- Yeah.
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That shows she doesn't
love me.
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Look at her body language.
314
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Look at Bec. Look at her winking
at her.
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Look at the game plan they made.
316
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Like that scene for me was
one of the most explosive
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scenes that I had seen
on Married at First Sight.
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The scene in the bathroom where
Bec and Gia are conniving
319
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on, "You know what you've got
to do. Australia's watching.
320
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"You've got to out-victim him
and make sure you cry."
321
00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:02,439
Gia says, "Yes, I'll make sure
I cry."
322
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I felt sick. Like, I just...
323
00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:06,599
I didn't know there's people
like that out there.
324
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- It's showing the calculation.
- It's free to be kind.
325
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It's crazy, man. Shit's wild.
326
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Yeah, manipulation.
327
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Where I'm confused
in the sense of,
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what, did she love me
or was she trying to...
329
00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:18,039
The biggest thing was
to out-victim him. Like, what?
330
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I don't excuse any
of the behaviour.
331
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I think it's very clear
that it was all horrible.
332
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But I do think that there
was emotions and feelings
333
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there as well.
- Definitely.
334
00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:27,479
I don't think you can
fabricate that.
335
00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:28,799
No, no, 100%.
336
00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:30,759
Scott, why did you write
the letter?
337
00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:31,959
- Why?
- Yeah.
338
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It was, I needed to say
something
339
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'cause I'd been quiet
340
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and I just - I had to have
my ending.
341
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Like I need my closure,
to let her know it's done.
342
00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:44,959
Gia said that your
relationship was a showmance.
343
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Was it? Was it real?
344
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It was definitely real.
345
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If she's saying
it's a showmance,
346
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she said she loved me.
347
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I spent so many
weekends with her.
348
00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:55,159
I took her daughter out
for her birthday.
349
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She was on my shoulders.
350
00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:58,319
I was FaceTiming her mum
and her daughter.
351
00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:02,159
If I had these special family
moments without cameras,
352
00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,399
is that showmance, is it?
Come on.
353
00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:06,719
There is so much obviously
going on behind closed doors
354
00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:09,159
that we don't get to see
between you and Gia.
355
00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:11,199
Here's some behind-the-scenes
audio
356
00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:13,359
of you talking to a producer
357
00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:14,679
right after the call with Gia,
358
00:14:14,680 --> 00:14:17,080
and it's where we really saw you
open up.
359
00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:17,519
Oh, man, I didn't even know...
360
00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:19,159
- Scott.
- It's hard not to watch.
361
00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:20,519
Wow. That's a lot.
362
00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:23,000
Is that part of the reason that
you didn't leave with Gia?
363
00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:25,759
Yeah.
364
00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:27,079
Like, we didn't know that.
365
00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:28,919
We didn't know that that
was going on
366
00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:30,799
or that you felt like that.
- 'Cause I'm a personal guy.
367
00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:32,239
I keep things to myself.
368
00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:33,599
Gia was wanting to leave
the experiment,
369
00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:34,839
but for a little while there,
370
00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:36,519
you were going to leave
with her.
371
00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:37,759
What happened for you?
372
00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:40,079
So, something in my gut said,
"Do not leave.
373
00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:41,679
"There's something
you need to see."
374
00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:43,319
- Yeah.
- And which is what?
375
00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:45,239
The video of her,
giving her...
376
00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:47,199
- That was it.
- Keeping her options open
377
00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:48,439
to someone.
378
00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:49,799
What was the absolute
breaking point?
379
00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:52,559
Honestly, probably when
I watched that video
380
00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:55,559
and then just went downhill
from there real fast.
381
00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:56,959
"I only date men with money"
382
00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:58,999
and you know, "You can find me
on MAFS after the show.
383
00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:00,279
"I'm done in a week."
384
00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:02,879
If you have the audacity to do
that on national television,
385
00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:04,799
I can only imagine what you're
doing behind closed doors.
386
00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:06,999
Have you spoken to Gia
since, like,
387
00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:10,239
since you parted ways after the
dinner party. Have you spoken?
388
00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:12,199
I was at home and I get
a phone call.
389
00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:13,439
"Hey, I'm at the Gold Coast."
390
00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:15,159
Yeah, and?
391
00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:16,399
She moved there.
392
00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:17,679
- She moved there with her...
- Yes!
393
00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:19,079
What?
394
00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:20,399
- By herself?
- I didn't even know.
395
00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:21,759
And said, "Can we get a coffee?"
396
00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:23,199
I'm like, "What?"
397
00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:24,719
I rejected her on it.
398
00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:26,279
And then she went off
at me and said,
399
00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:28,639
"I moved here for you,
yada, yada, yada."
400
00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:30,119
When originally, she said no.
401
00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:32,439
But the moment I rejected her,
she went off again.
402
00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:33,999
And then within a week,
within two weeks,
403
00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:35,839
she moved back to Melbourne.
404
00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:37,319
So, do you think she loved
you?
405
00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:38,719
- Yeah!
- Must have.
406
00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:40,359
Yeah. She loved him.
407
00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:41,999
Scott, it did seem like
the final test video
408
00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,199
was where you hit the point
of no return.
409
00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,079
However, you weren't
the only couple
410
00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:48,039
who faced hurdles
during this task.
411
00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:50,999
Let's remind ourselves
of what went down.
412
00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:55,159
- Oh, no!
- What is going on here?
413
00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:57,719
Oh, my god! Oh, my god!
Oh, my god!
414
00:16:57,720 --> 00:16:59,239
I feel like I'm gonna
pass out.
415
00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:00,559
None of us are here to cheat.
416
00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:03,159
We talk to the girls
about our relationships
417
00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:05,399
and just tell them about our
wives and get some feedback.
418
00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:08,559
It's a business meeting.
419
00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:09,799
"James..."
420
00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:11,159
Can I borrow your lip gloss, please?
421
00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:12,959
"I don't want to do this
at all!"
422
00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:14,960
Is the grass greener?
423
00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:19,399
You know, it's lovely
to meet you,
424
00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:21,039
but I don't feel like
I can engage.
425
00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:23,040
I'm gonna just exit. OK.
426
00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:27,760
I actually don't care.
427
00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:32,799
I'm here for my girl, Stella.
428
00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:34,119
I'm here.
429
00:17:34,120 --> 00:17:36,120
Sit down, Antony.
430
00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:39,680
Oh, dear god.
431
00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:43,440
In the real world,
yes, I would date you.
432
00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:45,479
Do you make a good
amount of money?
433
00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:46,679
Enough.
434
00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:48,680
If I was single, yeah,
I'd eat that up.
435
00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:05,119
Oh!
436
00:18:05,120 --> 00:18:08,199
It's insane watching how
differently the men and women
437
00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:11,199
handle that situation,
like polar opposites.
438
00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:12,719
Do you think the women
were flirting?
439
00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:13,959
- That's very flirty.
- "Drop your pants."
440
00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:17,280
Everything they were saying,
Alissa, Bec, Gia.
441
00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:20,439
Obviously, Rachel carried
herself well. Yourself.
442
00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:22,759
You know, a couple of them
were, but most of them...
443
00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:26,480
How was that experience
described to you by Gia?
444
00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:30,679
Like how she came home
and said to me,
445
00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:32,239
everything that a guy wanted
to hear.
446
00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:34,919
"This guy's all over me.
I told him to get off me."
447
00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:36,679
Like all the things that
you want to hear, right?
448
00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:38,679
Obviously, what she told
me was complete opposite
449
00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:40,959
to what I witnessed,
and that's my turning point.
450
00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:43,559
Well, Scott, it seems that Gia
didn't tell you the full story.
451
00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:45,599
There are many twists and turns.
452
00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:49,599
So, James, Gia's alternate
match is here
453
00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:51,199
to shed some light
454
00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:53,759
on the details that none of us
knew about.
455
00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:56,799
- No way! Are you shitting me?
- Oh, here we go!
456
00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:06,279
{\an8}Hey!
457
00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:07,719
{\an8}Oh, you can have her, bro!
458
00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:10,039
What on Earth?
459
00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:11,719
- Oh, slide that way.
- Hello.
460
00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:14,039
Well, this won't be awkward.
461
00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:16,039
It's not awkward 'cause I,
mate, you can have her.
462
00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:19,359
You lived the experience.
You were there in the flesh.
463
00:19:19,360 --> 00:19:21,119
You've now watched it back.
- Yeah.
464
00:19:21,120 --> 00:19:22,759
I'm dying to hear
your thoughts.
465
00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:26,039
Do you feel like the girls
and Gia were flirting?
466
00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:27,959
Yeah, I was getting a vibe
back from her, so...
467
00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:29,639
So, what was the vibe
you were getting back?
468
00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:30,999
That she's ready to mingle?
469
00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:32,599
She was flirtatious. Yeah.
Straight away.
470
00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:34,079
So, I was I was talking to her,
471
00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:35,359
giving some rizz, like I would.
472
00:19:35,360 --> 00:19:37,839
So, James, after you've
had this interaction
473
00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:39,599
with Gia and you were leaving,
were you thinking,
474
00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:41,279
"Wham, bam, thank you ma'am.
475
00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:43,319
"Like, I'm in, I have a solid
chance with this girl"?
476
00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:45,799
I didn't think I was in,
but I was going to follow up
477
00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:47,039
and follow through with my side.
478
00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:48,639
So, I sent a message
on Instagram,
479
00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:51,639
um, got a message back saying,
"Sorry, I'm happily married",
480
00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:54,359
and a photo of Scott with his
top off, with his finger up.
481
00:19:54,360 --> 00:19:57,199
You swapped details and she
said, "I'm free in a week."
482
00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:59,079
So, that must have been
confusing to you as well
483
00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:01,439
because you've gotten
the sort of A-OK
484
00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:03,439
and then she's like, "Back off."
- Of course.
485
00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:05,719
But look, it's like sales, right?
486
00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:07,519
You get ten nos
before you get a yes.
487
00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,239
So, you have to be persistent.
- I don't know if that's...
488
00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:12,479
Did you continue with the
persistence at that point?
489
00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:14,279
I followed up, I asked
how his date was
490
00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:16,479
and 'cause I knew that they
were doing something similar.
491
00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:17,719
I got a phone call,
492
00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:19,559
about four or five phone calls
the next day.
493
00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:22,079
So, OK, James,
you've given the team
494
00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:23,679
copies of your receipts,
495
00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:27,519
which they have cross-checked
with the timestamps on footage
496
00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:29,199
and Gia's travel itinerary
497
00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:30,879
to build a picture of what
exactly went down
498
00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:32,880
on the final date day. Scott.
499
00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:35,879
At 1:20pm,
500
00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,679
Gia left your final date
to go back to the apartment
501
00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:40,399
and leave the experiment.
502
00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:43,399
Now, 30 minutes later,
at 1:55pm,
503
00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:44,999
Gia rang you with an ultimatum.
504
00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,000
"You either leave or it's done."
505
00:20:48,120 --> 00:20:49,839
James, according
to your screenshots,
506
00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:52,279
Gia did call you three times
that day.
507
00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:55,039
Now you missed her call
at 3:06pm.
508
00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:58,479
But she calls you straight
after that again at 3:07pm.
509
00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:00,039
This time, you do answer.
510
00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,519
Then at 319, she calls you
for a third time
511
00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:05,079
and you speak on the phone
again.
512
00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:07,119
- Gia doesn't know this bloke.
- Yeah.
513
00:21:07,120 --> 00:21:09,119
Why is she calling him
that many times
514
00:21:09,120 --> 00:21:10,359
straight after she leaves me?
515
00:21:10,360 --> 00:21:12,319
She needs someone else. She's
already got another boyfriend,
516
00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:14,039
for god's sake.
Look how quick this is.
517
00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:15,399
She needs something.
518
00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,719
Was the content of the call,
even though it was brief,
519
00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:19,759
was it flirty banter?
520
00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:23,799
Not really. It was more anger
of "I'm leaving." Like...
521
00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:25,359
I think she actually did
mention Scott
522
00:21:25,360 --> 00:21:26,999
didn't want to leave with her.
523
00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,599
Um, "So, I'm leaving.
I'm going here, I'm doing this."
524
00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:31,079
She's called you
multiple times.
525
00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:32,599
There would have been
a conversation
526
00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:34,119
about something else.
- Really?
527
00:21:34,120 --> 00:21:36,320
Fuck, yeah. You're not just
calling up having a yarn.
528
00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,159
I've obviously set
a good first impression.
529
00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:42,439
She wanted to ring me, so
I can't help it if she rung me.
530
00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:44,919
James, you're the one who gave
us those text messages.
531
00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:46,159
Yeah.
532
00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:47,799
You're the one who gave
us the receipts.
533
00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:49,479
Gia was sharing bikini
photos with you.
534
00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,799
She was, like you said
it wasn't flirty.
535
00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:52,999
But I don't send bikini photos
536
00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:54,319
to anyone that I'm not flirty
with.
537
00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:55,639
Oh, the text messages
were flirty.
538
00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:57,279
Conversations afterwards
were flirty.
539
00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:58,479
It weren't flirty immediately.
540
00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:01,399
That scene of Gia and Scott
on the street,
541
00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:04,959
having the breakdown in their
relationship that was so public,
542
00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,199
she called you an hour
after that. One hour.
543
00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,200
It's crazy.
544
00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,039
And then she came
to the dinner party
545
00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:13,239
and tried to get Scott back
546
00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:14,719
and tried to rekindle
that relationship.
547
00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:19,999
Oh look, if it was my missus,
I would be very upset.
548
00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:23,839
It's not behaviour
I would tolerate or want.
549
00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:25,839
I didn't know that she was
still in a relationship
550
00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:27,639
with Scott though, still going
through the process,
551
00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:29,039
so if I did, it wouldn't...
552
00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:30,799
Wouldn't have carried
on with the conversation, so...
553
00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:32,999
Scott, when you find out
this type of information
554
00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:34,279
about something,
555
00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:35,839
it just shows the level of lies
556
00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:37,279
and it clearly still
affects you.
557
00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:38,919
'Cause it's ridiculous.
558
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:42,239
Like, I have never met someone
that's so bad like this.
559
00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:43,959
It doesn't stop. I never knew
this was gonna happen.
560
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:45,359
I didn't know he was gonna
come here.
561
00:22:45,360 --> 00:22:46,719
Didn't know she called him.
562
00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:48,479
I gave him the finger,
popped him off,
563
00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:50,279
and then I didn't know
this was happening after.
564
00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:51,919
I'm, like, frustrated
565
00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,839
'cause I put so much time
and effort into someone
566
00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,119
who's calling me showmance.
567
00:22:57,120 --> 00:22:58,359
Take a look at yourself.
568
00:22:58,360 --> 00:23:00,759
She will never take
accountability for her actions
569
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:02,919
because she thinks she's fine.
570
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:04,119
Well, James, thank you, mate.
571
00:23:04,120 --> 00:23:05,799
You dropped some pretty
explosive receipts there.
572
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,879
Can't wait to see
what Gia has to say.
573
00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,599
Filip and Stella, excited
for your final vows,
574
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:13,799
and Scotty, good luck, buddy.
575
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,639
It's been pretty hard
watching your journey,
576
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,679
but we hope you find someone
you can be your best self with.
577
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:20,959
OK, well, don't go anywhere.
578
00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:22,519
Gia has not done
a runner yet
579
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:24,519
and she is still in the
building
580
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:26,560
and is about to join us
here on this very couch.
581
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:29,719
Scott's had his time
on the couch over and over,
582
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:31,079
getting his voice out there,
583
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:32,359
but I've got a lot to say,
584
00:23:32,360 --> 00:23:34,360
so I think it's my turn
to speak now.
585
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,639
It's been seven weeks,
six no shows,
586
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,039
and more complex negotiations
than a NATO peace agreement.
587
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,879
Gia is here.
588
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,159
And honestly, out of
all the weeks to choose
589
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:46,919
to come, she chose this one,
which is the week
590
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:48,839
that she has the most
to answer to,
591
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:50,639
and, I mean, I, for one,
think it's quite puzzling.
592
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:54,559
She has been watching Scott's
interview as it played out.
593
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:56,359
I hear that she's pretty
fired up and she's ready
594
00:23:56,360 --> 00:23:58,679
to come out here and tell
us what she thinks of it all.
595
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:00,519
Gia fired up. I mean,
that's all we've seen
596
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:02,279
the whole show, right?
That's nothing different.
597
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:03,839
Alright, well, look, let's not
waste any time,
598
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:05,119
not another second.
599
00:24:05,120 --> 00:24:06,479
Let's bring Gia out.
600
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:13,480
♪ Ave Maria... ♪
601
00:24:20,120 --> 00:24:22,879
{\an8}- Hi!
- I'm here!
602
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:24,239
- Gia!
- You're here!
603
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:25,559
I'm here.
604
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,599
- You made it.
- It's like meeting Santa!
605
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:29,919
I know! Santa's real!
606
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:31,679
So, Gia, we know you've
been watching.
607
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:33,599
Why have you decided
to come on now?
608
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,879
Um, you know, you guys
have spoken about me
609
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:37,439
every now and then,
and I'm like.
610
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:40,519
I've just got to take ownership
and be accountable and show up,
611
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:41,959
like, at the end of the day,
612
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,839
I can't grow unless
I face the music, really.
613
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:46,999
OK. So, when you
say accountability,
614
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:50,159
you've just watched
that conversation with Scott.
615
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,439
- Yeah.
- How do you feel about that?
616
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,959
Um, it was really difficult
617
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,439
'cause, you know, I was in love
with him.
618
00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:00,439
Watching it now, I'm like,
oh, he was falling for me.
619
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,359
Like, I was self-sabotaging
and running away
620
00:25:02,360 --> 00:25:03,719
and I maybe missed that.
621
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:05,719
And so I'm like, I want him
to know
622
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:07,639
that it was real for me as well.
It was real.
623
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:09,599
I do believe that there
were feelings there.
624
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:10,999
Like, I see those moments.
625
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,399
But Scott had a lot to say
in the interview, as you saw.
626
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:14,959
- Yeah.
- I guess calling
627
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:16,679
a bit of BS on the whole
relationship.
628
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:18,279
He said he doesn't believe
anything you said.
629
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,639
He was saying that it was
a showmance for you
630
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:24,319
and that you would berate him
a lot behind closed doors.
631
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:25,719
I don't think it was
to the degree
632
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:27,359
that he's saying what I said.
633
00:25:27,360 --> 00:25:29,639
But we've even seen you
say these things
634
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,079
like last week, saying
that he's dumb, illiterate.
635
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,679
There's also things that
he would say that, you know,
636
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:36,319
made me feel a certain way.
637
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:37,839
But I haven't spoken
on any of that
638
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:39,839
and I don't really want
to shit talk him.
639
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:44,439
Um, I, I don't know
if I believe that
640
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,279
and I say this because,
say, sit here and say,
641
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:48,479
"Oh, well, he did things,
642
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:50,479
"but I don't want to tell you
what it was."
643
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,319
Well, can we pull up some mic
moments of Scott
644
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:53,879
where he was talking
about the other women
645
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:55,919
in the experiment and telling
me that he hates my hair curly
646
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:57,479
and he doesn't want my hair up,
647
00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,199
and then I look a bit fat?
Can we show any of that?
648
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,039
- He said you looked fat?
- He said you look fat?
649
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:05,239
Yeah, I would love something
shown of him
650
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,239
to look bad for once
because I feel like...
651
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,199
But why did you never bring
that up in the experiment?
652
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,039
You cannot sit here and say,
653
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:12,799
"I didn't want to make him
look bad",
654
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:14,679
because you said probably the
worst thing that you could say
655
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:16,999
about a guy, which was that
they used you for sex.
656
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,119
- Right.
- So, you did go there.
657
00:26:19,120 --> 00:26:20,439
So, if he had said those things,
658
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:21,999
why didn't you bring them
up then?
659
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:23,759
So, I didn't want to.
I just didn't want to.
660
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,119
I felt like he already was so
mad about so many other things.
661
00:26:26,120 --> 00:26:27,759
He wasn't falling in
love with me. I'm not...
662
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:29,759
I'm like, I'm not going to
throw more shit on this.
663
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,119
I guess it's hard because
in all the footage,
664
00:26:32,120 --> 00:26:34,159
he speaks really well
about you.
665
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,639
It's actually you that's not
speaking well about him.
666
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:37,959
Yeah.
667
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:39,839
Like, it just doesn't
make sense.
668
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:41,399
OK, well...
669
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,559
But can you see, can you
understand why from the outset,
670
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:46,399
it just doesn't make sense.
671
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,479
Yeah, I mean,
it doesn't make sense.
672
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,719
I wish you could see more,
but you couldn't.
673
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:52,799
I mean, I don't know, I don't
know what else to say.
674
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:54,599
I guess, what we're trying
to ascertain is,
675
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:55,879
is when you're saying like,
you know,
676
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:57,639
"Why don't you show
those videos?"
677
00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:59,119
We actually don't have them.
678
00:26:59,120 --> 00:27:00,479
They do not exist to us.
679
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:05,159
So, are you potentially trying
to find things
680
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,359
to justify the behaviour
that we've seen?
681
00:27:07,360 --> 00:27:09,759
No. If there's no footage
of it, there's no footage of it.
682
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,199
I don't know what else
I can say.
683
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,919
Do you feel as though we're
not seeing the real Scott then?
684
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,079
I... I think you're seeing
the real Scott.
685
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,080
I just think there's some
moments that...
686
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,719
I wish was shown more,
687
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:22,439
like, I don't know how else
to put it. Like...
688
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:26,159
Talk to us about though that
moving, like got your daughter,
689
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:27,439
you moved to the Gold Coast.
690
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,319
You moved within a very close
proximity to where Scott was.
691
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:31,679
What was your intention?
692
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:32,959
Well, like, 30 minutes
from Scott.
693
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:34,199
The Gold Coast is small.
694
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,439
Um, throughout the experiment,
I told my daughter
695
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:37,719
we'd move back
to the Gold Coast.
696
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:39,799
Her dad lives on the Gold Coast,
and then,
697
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,319
yeah, just - it was just
too hard.
698
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,079
I relied on my mum
and my family too much
699
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:44,359
and they're like,
700
00:27:44,360 --> 00:27:46,319
"You need to be in Melbourne,
so we can help you."
701
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:47,759
That's fair and I get that.
702
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,399
Like, but at that time,
did you also try and rekindle
703
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,119
things with Scott?
- I definitely did, yeah, 100%.
704
00:27:52,120 --> 00:27:53,999
But then you just told us,
705
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:55,599
you said, "I wish you
could all see
706
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,359
"how he treated me
and what he said to me,
707
00:27:57,360 --> 00:27:58,599
"what he said behind
closed doors,
708
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:00,439
"and the extra footage,
pull it up."
709
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,199
- If he was so bad...
- I'm not saying
710
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:03,679
he was so bad
though.
711
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,119
I'm not saying he was so bad.
712
00:28:05,120 --> 00:28:08,239
He's not a bad person. I don't
think he was horrible.
713
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:09,599
I still wanted to be with him.
714
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:10,919
I was still in love with him.
715
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,239
But yeah, I mean, he said
a couple things
716
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:14,439
here and there that were bad.
717
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,719
I don't think he was as bad
as me. I'm not saying that.
718
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:18,879
I'm not saying he's just
as bad. Definitely not.
719
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:20,079
Let's go back to Melbourne.
720
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,639
When you went back,
you went to Melbourne.
721
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,999
Sorry, went to Melbourne, lied,
came back.
722
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,080
What was the purpose
of you coming back?
723
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,039
I don't know if I can
say that,
724
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:31,519
um, production wanted me
to come back
725
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,079
for the dinner party
to confront Scott.
726
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:34,279
Did you want to come back?
727
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:35,479
So, you didn't...
- No.
728
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,199
You didn't want to come back
at all?
729
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,359
How does production make you
come back if you don't want to?
730
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,479
Well, it's not make me.
It's the only opportunity
731
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:43,999
I could see Scott though.
732
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:45,439
I'd reached out, called, texted,
733
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:46,759
didn't hear anything from Scott.
734
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:48,519
Basically, I thought, I don't
know what else to do.
735
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,479
I'm still in Sydney. The dinner
party is tomorrow night.
736
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,199
I'm like, fuck it, I'll go
to the dinner party.
737
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,559
You just said to us
that production made you.
738
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:56,599
Was that bullshit just then?
Did you just lie to us?
739
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:58,079
I'm trying to talk a way
around it.
740
00:28:58,080 --> 00:28:59,279
You can be honest.
741
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:00,599
I'm genuinely trying
to understand this.
742
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:04,239
So, production took you
to the airport.
743
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:05,879
- Yeah, yeah.
- Like they booked you a flight.
744
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:07,959
They took you to the airport.
You got dropped off.
745
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:09,599
They sent you off to Melbourne.
746
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:11,839
You got your bags
off that flight?
747
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:13,759
- Yep.
- You stayed in Sydney.
748
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:15,839
You didn't go home
and see your daughter
749
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:17,239
who you said that that was
the reason...
750
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:18,639
- No.
- why you wanted to go home.
751
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:20,239
But now you're saying
production made you go
752
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:21,439
to the final dinner party?
753
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:22,839
Like production, doesn't
sound like they made you
754
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:24,239
do any of that.
755
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:25,959
No. They thought I was
going to be in Melbourne.
756
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:27,839
Obviously, then I turned around
and stayed in Sydney and...
757
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:29,839
So, then how did they make
you go to the final dinner?
758
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:31,879
They knew I was in Sydney
'cause I went to the apartment.
759
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:35,159
So, regardless, you're going,
you're in a car
760
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,160
and you're going
to the dinner party.
761
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:39,559
Why?
762
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,319
To confront Scott
and I wanted another chance.
763
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,199
Confront him or get another
chance?
764
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:45,879
'Cause they're two different
things.
765
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:47,639
I either wanted closure
or another chance.
766
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:49,359
I didn't know how it was
going to pan out
767
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:50,839
because, you know, I had
Bec telling me,
768
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:52,759
"Oh, he's at the gym with Danny
769
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:54,639
"and, you know, there's probably
a shot there."
770
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:56,519
And so I'm thinking, "OK,
I'm going to write a letter.
771
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:57,719
"I'm going to do this."
772
00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:59,759
So, if you had one,
I mean, your wish,
773
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:01,679
you could have had that pan out
any way you want,
774
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:03,519
was it to get back with him?
- Yeah.
775
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,199
- OK.
- 100% at that time.
776
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,479
Talk me through the scene
that we saw in the bathroom
777
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,959
where you are talking to Bec,
and you obviously think
778
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,079
you're off camera, but you're
very much mic'd up
779
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:16,919
and you have a game plan
of out-victim-ing Scott,
780
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:18,519
you have to out-victim him.
781
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:20,599
You have to make yourself
seem like you're
782
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,439
more hurt than he is.
783
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,359
Anyone who was there
would know I was.
784
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,519
I mean, I was - I wish you would
play some footage of that
785
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,679
of how I was, but anyway.
786
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:30,879
But someone who's a victim
787
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:32,119
doesn't have to out-victim
someone.
788
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:33,359
You never have to say that.
789
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:34,759
You don't have to,
"Hey, can you cry?"
790
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:36,079
"Can you do this?"
791
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:37,639
- No, but Bec was...
- Was there strategy to it?
792
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:38,959
Bec was telling me
that I should,
793
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,119
And it wasn't in the way
of, like, be a victim
794
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:42,999
to make the group like you.
795
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,119
It was like be a victim
so that he would see that.
796
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,199
But it also said be
a victim, so Australia...
797
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,239
I mean, Australia was
put in there as well.
798
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,399
Look, I think in that
situation you were both
799
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:52,639
as bad as each other.
800
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,399
But Bec literally said the best
thing you can do is also cry.
801
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,319
And you said, "Oh, babe,
don't worry, I'll be crying."
802
00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,479
Well, I was going to cry.
I was crying all day.
803
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:00,919
But that's not how it came
across.
804
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,079
It came across as a conversation
that was very manipulative,
805
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:07,719
like, "OK, shit. They know
that I lied about it.
806
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:08,999
"What am I going to do here?
807
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:10,559
"I'm going to have to outplay
him."
808
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:11,759
You know, the conversation
was even,
809
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:13,279
"Right now everyone
is poor Scott.
810
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:14,959
"We need to turn that
to poor Gia."
811
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:16,799
So, that doesn't play
like somebody
812
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,399
that is like, thinks that they
lost the love of their life.
813
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,639
That's fine. That's your
perception. He was.
814
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:23,879
And I did love him. So...
815
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,679
It's just interesting though,
the moment you realised
816
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:30,159
that the letter didn't land
817
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,519
and you couldn't win him back,
he walked away,
818
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:36,399
and then you cut sick, saying
he was using you for sex
819
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,559
and it was a showmance.
- Yeah.
820
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:40,879
You can understand
why we're confused.
821
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:44,559
So, tell us about why
you would do that.
822
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,359
I, you know, use it
as a defence mechanism
823
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:48,719
when I'm hurt
824
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,399
and I don't feel like, you know,
I'm protecting myself.
825
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,679
I'm like, "OK, well, he doesn't
want me now, so just unleash.
826
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,439
"I've got nothing to lose. He
doesn't want me, who cares?"
827
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:57,759
Do you look back now,
828
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,239
,and knowing how much Scott
did actually feel for you
829
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,399
and this thing that you guys
got, you got stuck on,
830
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:03,999
like, you got stuck on the fact,
831
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:05,399
that he wouldn't say,
"I love you."
832
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,279
How do you feel about that now?
Do you regret all of this?
833
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:12,879
Yeah, yeah. I just think
I was self-sabotaging
834
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:14,319
and I was projecting
and I'm trying to...
835
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,879
I was insecure and I'm trying
to make him,
836
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:18,519
you know, say he loves me back.
837
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,039
Gia, there was a lot
with that,
838
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,039
the test, right, the final test
839
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:23,879
that was, we all saw,
the grass was greener.
840
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:25,239
Yeah.
841
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,239
Do you look at that now
and think you were flirting?
842
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:32,039
I denied that I did to Scott.
I'll admit that.
843
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:33,959
I was trying to soften the blow
844
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:35,919
and act like it wasn't as bad
as it was,
845
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,079
but watching it, I'm like, yeah,
it was. It was pretty bad.
846
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,079
Why? Why were you
flirting like that?
847
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,399
I feel like I'd reached
a point in my relationship
848
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,399
where I was spiralling
way too hard.
849
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,999
I didn't feel that he felt
the same about me
850
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,079
and I was just - like, this
person was giving me
851
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,199
so much heavy attention
and I was like, alright.
852
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,559
You said to James,
in the grass is greener,
853
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,639
"I'll see you in a week."
Like, "I'm out in a week."
854
00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,519
- Did you see him in a week?
- No.
855
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:01,079
- Did anything happen?
- Absolutely not.
856
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:02,559
Has anything happened?
Anything eventuated?
857
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:04,279
He sent me a DM.
Um, and it was like,
858
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,479
"I'll see you when you're done
with Scott", or whatever.
859
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:07,799
And I just gave Scott my phone.
860
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:09,559
I was like, "Oh, my god.
Reply to this idiot."
861
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:11,039
We ended up blocking him.
862
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:12,959
So, he tried to like,
slide back into your DMs
863
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:14,799
and reignite something
and you just put it to bed?
864
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:16,439
You were like, "No."
- Yeah, because, oh, god.
865
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,679
Like no, looking at it now,
I'm like, yuck.
866
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:19,919
Gia, I'm gonna stop you there.
867
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:21,879
Um, we spoke to James earlier...
868
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,519
- Yeah.
- and we actually know
869
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:28,879
that you were having
more contact with him.
870
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,399
When I had left Scott
and I was on the Gold Coast.
871
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:35,999
Actually, on the final date
when you stormed off from Scott.
872
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,759
- Yeah.
- We know that you called James
873
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:40,799
and spoke to him that day.
874
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:42,800
Why did you just lie to us?
875
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,759
Well, Scott and I were done.
When I was with Scott...
876
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:47,439
- No.
- I wasn't.
877
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,519
You said you blocked him
and you weren't done.
878
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:51,439
No, I unblocked him, 100%.
879
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:52,959
OK, so you've unblocked him
now.
880
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:54,759
Well, I don't talk to him now, obviously.
881
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:56,039
But it was the day after.
882
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,799
So, you've had a date
with him at the final test.
883
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:00,319
- Yeah.
- And then the next day,
884
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,359
you got the final date.
- Yeah.
885
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,799
And so, you've blocked him
for a single night.
886
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,199
In other words, you've blocked
him in front of Scott.
887
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:08,839
- Yeah.
- And now, the next day,
888
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:10,519
you're in with Scott.
889
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:11,959
We're going to the airport.
890
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,199
Scott goes, "No."
We're two days out.
891
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,519
"Let's see this through.
I want to hold your hands,
892
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,719
"and I want to express
my commitment to you."
893
00:34:19,720 --> 00:34:21,679
- Yeah.
- And then instead of you
894
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:23,879
saying, "I'll stay with you,
Scott",
895
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,999
you unblock James and you call
him three times.
896
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:28,319
What are you talking about?
897
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:29,839
What was your reason?
898
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,159
I called him because we had
just had the final date.
899
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:33,719
Scott didn't leave with me,
so this was, like,
900
00:34:33,720 --> 00:34:35,039
two or three days later.
901
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,319
No, it was one hour later,
you called James.
902
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:38,679
Was it? OK.
903
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:40,079
We had the grass is greener,
904
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:41,719
then the very next day
is the final date.
905
00:34:41,720 --> 00:34:43,279
Well, I don't remember with
filming what day exactly.
906
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,199
I know you might not remember,
but it's...
907
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:46,719
You've had a one-hour break-up.
908
00:34:46,720 --> 00:34:48,479
Like, you've literally just had
an argument on the street.
909
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:49,879
Why call him?
910
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:51,759
Not your mum, not your
best friend, not Chris.
911
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:52,999
I did call Mum first
912
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:54,559
'cause Mum and my daughter
flew to Sydney,
913
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:56,479
so I called them and said,
"Go to the airport."
914
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,079
Yeah, I definitely called him.
- Just a random guy
915
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,279
that you didn't know.
- I rang him on Instagram,
916
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,159
he didn't have my number,
rang him on Instagram
917
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,479
and I said to him, "Oh, this guy
said he was going
918
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,079
"to leave with me. He's not
leaving with me.
919
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:07,399
"Like, what do I do?"
920
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,559
I asked him, literally,
as a, like, a male friend.
921
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:10,959
But why James?
You don't know him.
922
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:12,959
Because he was giving
me good advice.
923
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:14,239
It just doesn't check out
924
00:35:14,240 --> 00:35:16,359
that you have had this break-up
with someone
925
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,719
that you love, and you actually
wanted him to chase you.
926
00:35:18,720 --> 00:35:21,959
Then you call this random
stranger you met the day before
927
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,199
that was there to be set up
with you, that you flirted with,
928
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:25,759
and said, "I'll be available
in a week",
929
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:27,919
only to then fakie-180
at the airport,
930
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,039
get your luggage back off,
not tell anyone,
931
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:31,319
and go back to fight for Scott,
932
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,519
throw Scott back under the bus
and then storm out
933
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,599
and then rekindle it with James.
- I'm exhausted!
934
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:39,319
Make it makes sense, Gia!
935
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:40,519
I was like, "Fuck it."
936
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:41,999
I wanted to feel wanted.
937
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,239
I was so rejected by Scott.
You have no idea.
938
00:35:44,240 --> 00:35:45,999
I was begging him.
- That's the truth.
939
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,199
No, no. But that's...
- Yeah, I was begging him
940
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:49,919
like it's actually fucked.
941
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:51,919
I was begging him
to just even sleep with me.
942
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:53,199
I needed something from him
943
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,759
but I wasn't getting anything,
like I wasn't, like...
944
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,039
And at that time, this person
was giving me attention
945
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,040
and I took the attention.
946
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,159
- I think...
- That's the truth.
947
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:04,799
I understand and I think,
you know,
948
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:06,079
look, I say this as someone
949
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:09,799
who in a very past life,
used to monkey branch.
950
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,719
If I got rejected here, I would
have something else to back up.
951
00:36:12,720 --> 00:36:15,479
Like, I know what that
feeling's like. I've done that,
952
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,759
and so, I actually, I can
recognise it when I see it,
953
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:20,439
and I don't think it's
because you were
954
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,199
really into James
even necessarily,
955
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,159
but it filled a hole.
- Not at all.
956
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,079
Where do you think
that insecurity comes from?
957
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:27,959
Oh, god, that's horrible.
958
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:29,479
I don't want to talk about that.
959
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:30,719
- I'm sorry.
- Are you OK?
960
00:36:30,720 --> 00:36:33,439
Yeah. It's just I don't want
to excuse any of this.
961
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,239
Like, I'm taking on
what you guys are saying,
962
00:36:35,240 --> 00:36:37,719
but, like, you know, there's
always more to a story.
963
00:36:37,720 --> 00:36:40,359
Like, there's reasons.
I didn't just wake up
964
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,039
and decide to act like this.
965
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:43,319
- There's always reasons. Yeah.
- You know?
966
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:44,719
I do think that you guys
967
00:36:44,720 --> 00:36:46,959
got into an extremely
toxic cycle,
968
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:51,199
like, and I don't think you
had big feelings for James.
969
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,999
I think it was a, "I'm lonely,
I'm hurting.
970
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:55,439
"So, I'm going to get
my attention
971
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:56,759
"from someone somewhere else."
972
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:58,359
I do think that that's
what you did.
973
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:00,719
However, I guess the reason
why we're holding you
974
00:37:00,720 --> 00:37:02,039
so much to account on this
975
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,079
is because the story changes
976
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,639
as soon as we share
a little bit more information.
977
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:07,879
You said you blocked him.
978
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:09,279
Then when we say we know more,
979
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,559
then we - the story stretches
a little bit further.
980
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:13,759
I think you guys just really
wanted me here to grill me
981
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:15,559
and just call me a liar,
and it's just, like...
982
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:16,799
We didn't.
983
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:18,279
I don't know what else to say, guys.
984
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:20,759
Like, I fucked up. You gotta
remember, this was last year.
985
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:22,079
I'm trying to move on from this.
986
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,359
Like I don't, you know,
I don't want to be
987
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:25,719
that person anymore, I don't.
988
00:37:25,720 --> 00:37:27,559
Otherwise, I'll have another
relationship that doesn't work
989
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,199
and another friendship that
doesn't work or whatever.
990
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,319
Like, I have to work on things.
991
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:36,159
Yeah. I'm glad you guys
have pushed me to this
992
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:37,919
because it's made me realise,
like,
993
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:39,879
I can't do this kind of shit.
It's just...
994
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:41,679
And again, I'm raising
a daughter,
995
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,319
like I need to be better.
996
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,320
You were given,
in my opinion...
997
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:49,880
a great groom.
998
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:52,679
You were given someone
who was amazing
999
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:54,920
all the way through to the end, right?
1000
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:57,119
So, my question is,
1001
00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:00,399
why do you think he couldn't
say, "I love you"?
1002
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,599
I think it was the outside
noise and all the drama
1003
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:03,799
I was involved in,
1004
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:05,559
and that behaviour
that I was displaying,
1005
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:07,719
that was the reason why he
couldn't fall in love with me.
1006
00:38:07,720 --> 00:38:11,039
I think it was just I really
needed to focus on Scott
1007
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,159
and not all of that shit,
and I just - I couldn't.
1008
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:14,919
It was some of the worst
behaviour, Gia,
1009
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,319
I have seen on TV in Australia
1010
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,719
between you and Bec
and I hate it.
1011
00:38:19,720 --> 00:38:21,999
I was almost rooting for you
from the start, thinking,
1012
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,759
"OK, she's just had a moment,
she'll move past it."
1013
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:26,079
But we were three months in
1014
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:27,679
and you just never moved
past it.
1015
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,079
- Yeah.
- When you watch this back,
1016
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:31,279
how do you feel?
1017
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,599
Because you were like that
till the very end.
1018
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,239
I literally can't watch it.
It's too confronting.
1019
00:38:36,240 --> 00:38:38,279
Like I'm extremely embarrassed.
1020
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:39,719
Um, yeah.
1021
00:38:39,720 --> 00:38:42,039
I mean, it's shown me sides
of myself
1022
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,079
that I need to grow on
and improve on. Definitely.
1023
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:47,519
I watch it now and I'm like,
I can't, you know,
1024
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:49,639
facilitate normal friendships
acting this way
1025
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:51,559
or like having a good
relationship this way.
1026
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:54,439
Like, it's some of the things
that I've done, I've done,
1027
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,319
I realise, that's not OK,
1028
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,719
and I'm in therapy,
working on all that now.
1029
00:38:59,720 --> 00:39:02,199
But yeah, I mean,
it's embarrassing.
1030
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:03,479
I don't know what else to say.
1031
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:04,679
Like, I'm humiliated.
1032
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,239
I don't think I act like that
all the time.
1033
00:39:07,240 --> 00:39:09,079
I mean, I'm also a mum.
1034
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:13,319
I also, like, like to think
I'm somewhat of a good person.
1035
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:16,239
I'm not just a horrible person
every single day of my life.
1036
00:39:16,240 --> 00:39:18,519
I wish more of the good
was shown.
1037
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:19,959
But you know, it is what it is.
1038
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:21,639
All I can do is grow
from the show.
1039
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:23,799
I do have another little bone
to pick.
1040
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,599
Um, I really love this show
as an audience member
1041
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:29,479
and you effed up
with the spoilers.
1042
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,079
You revealed that you were
seeing someone else...
1043
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:32,359
I know.
1044
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:34,319
- ...way before you and Scott...
- Well, it got leaked.
1045
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:35,599
- It got leaked.
- Oh!
1046
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:37,199
- It did not get leaked!
- Gia!
1047
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:38,559
- By Ollie, 'Daily Mail'.
- By you!
1048
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:41,919
You are the 'Daily Mail'!
You're puppeteering them!
1049
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,039
But didn't you get paid
for that?
1050
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:45,599
- No, we didn't get paid.
- OK.
1051
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:47,039
Do you know why
we didn't get paid?
1052
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:48,959
Yeah, do you know why?
We were going to get paid.
1053
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:50,519
So, you were going to do it
anyway.
1054
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:51,839
You can't say, "Oh, we got
papped."
1055
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:53,839
You just admitted
you were setting it up to...
1056
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:55,119
Well, no, the thing is,
1057
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:57,319
we were so worried every week
that it was going to be leaked.
1058
00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:58,839
Cut the shit. The reason
you did it
1059
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:02,959
is because you had a guy
that you loved on TV
1060
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:04,799
who was having second thoughts
about you
1061
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:08,199
because you'd just been creating
so much drama
1062
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:11,519
and you felt vulnerable, and so
you tried to get ahead of it
1063
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:14,239
by saying, "Hey, I've got
someone better",
1064
00:40:14,240 --> 00:40:18,519
and you optically wanted to look
like you had already moved on.
1065
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:19,919
- No, and this, this really...
- What?
1066
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:21,279
This really pisses me off
1067
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,519
how people are going on
about it being a PR thing.
1068
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:24,759
Course it was!
1069
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:26,319
No, I just am in love
with my boyfriend,
1070
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:27,919
and I was like,
"Fuck it, let's leak it."
1071
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:29,519
I don't want to keep pretending
I'm with Scott.
1072
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:31,079
That was literally...
- So, you did leak it.
1073
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:32,479
- You just admitted it.
- Well...
1074
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:34,439
I took the photos, knowing
they were going to be leaked.
1075
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,239
Didn't know they were going
to be leaked that early.
1076
00:40:36,240 --> 00:40:37,959
So, apologise to Australia
1077
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:41,359
for absolutely spoiling a show
we love! Apologise.
1078
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:43,159
- Where's the - which camera?
- Any camera.
1079
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:44,559
- Here.
- That one. Number one.
1080
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,759
I'm sorry, Australia, for
ruining, for spoiling the show
1081
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:49,999
and the ending of Scott and I.
I'm sorry.
1082
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:51,799
Is there anyone else
you want to apologise to
1083
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:53,279
while you're down there?
- Um...
1084
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:54,639
Scott, maybe?
1085
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:56,359
Yeah. I am sorry to you,
Scott.
1086
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:57,559
I genuinely feel bad.
1087
00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:59,439
I feel like I did break
and hurt this man.
1088
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:02,199
I hope he finds happiness. I...
He's got a beautiful heart
1089
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,319
and he'll make someone
really happy one day.
1090
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,799
Well, beyond Scott,
your relationship with Bec
1091
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:08,999
was really what defined
your time in the experiment.
1092
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,919
You guys just hated
each other the entire time.
1093
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:14,800
This week, you're besties.
What happened?
1094
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:17,359
I don't know, I've no answer
for that.
1095
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,239
I think both of us wanted
to relate to each other
1096
00:41:19,240 --> 00:41:20,919
in some way when we were
going through shit
1097
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,239
with our relationships.
- All we've seen
1098
00:41:23,240 --> 00:41:25,119
is truly how horrible the two
of you have been
1099
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:26,399
to each other.
1100
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,119
So, surely when the cameras
aren't rolling,
1101
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,279
even if you have to be in
the same room as each other,
1102
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,159
even if you do catch up
with other people,
1103
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:33,639
surely that hatred is still
there,
1104
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:35,319
or that dislike for each other
is still there.
1105
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,119
Like you don't just switch
into it.
1106
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:39,079
"Oh, OK, now the camera's off.
We can be friends, babe."
1107
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:40,479
Like, what's going on?
1108
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,359
We were hanging out
a little bit off camera,
1109
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,639
and so I didn't know half
the time if we were friends
1110
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:46,119
or if we weren't friends
or what.
1111
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:48,639
So, it was just a messy
situation.
1112
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:50,879
It wasn't a friendship.
- What about now?
1113
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:52,239
Definitely not.
1114
00:41:52,240 --> 00:41:53,679
You trust her?
Did you trust her?
1115
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:55,559
No. Nah.
1116
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:57,879
I mean, you did put your trust
in Bec at the dinner party
1117
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,279
and it backfired explosively.
1118
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,999
But that might not have
been the case for Bec.
1119
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,839
So, I want you to take a look
at this unseen footage
1120
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:07,880
that she gave after
the dinner party.
1121
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:10,399
Everyone was like, "Why are
you friends with her?
1122
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:12,199
"Why are you friends with her?
What are you doing?"
1123
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:13,719
My husband was like,
"What's going on?
1124
00:42:13,720 --> 00:42:15,759
"She's not your friend.
She's not your friend."
1125
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:17,399
I don't want to sit
at a dinner party
1126
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:19,759
and have issues with people.
I want to see Gia and Scott
1127
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:21,760
have it out with each other.
1128
00:42:23,240 --> 00:42:25,039
The only person that was going
to get her here
1129
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:27,279
was the only friend
she had, was me.
1130
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:29,439
Oh!
1131
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,359
- My fucking god.
- Yeah, she fucked me over
1132
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:33,360
and now, you like a dick.
So, see ya!
1133
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:37,440
- Oh, my god, I feel sick.
- Whoa.
1134
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:40,479
- Her and her husband.
- Who would have thought?
1135
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:42,959
Absolutely. Why do you think
I've kept the...
1136
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:44,879
- Who would have thought.
- I'm framing them
1137
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:46,919
and selling them.
1138
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:48,159
Geez!
1139
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:51,519
It's all been rainbows
and lollipops the whole time,
1140
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:52,959
and then you run away.
1141
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:54,559
No, no, no, you come back
and show
1142
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:55,839
what your relationship
really was.
1143
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:57,279
'Cause I've worked
on my relationship.
1144
00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:58,719
You've worked
on your relationship,
1145
00:42:58,720 --> 00:43:00,119
but you've come for mine.
1146
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,399
You've come for yours. You've
come for everyone else's.
1147
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:05,359
Let's see what the reality
of the situation is.
1148
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:06,999
The only way to get her there
was me.
1149
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,000
Mic drop.
1150
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:10,959
Mic drop.
1151
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:12,960
Bitch.
1152
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:14,639
That's how we started
1153
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:16,640
and that's how we're
going to end, isn't it?
1154
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:20,919
- Oh, god, I feel sick.
- Gia, that's so savage.
1155
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:22,920
How do you feel watching that?
1156
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:26,520
Wow, I feel like an idiot.
1157
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:32,759
I genuinely thought
she was my friend
1158
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:34,319
at that point. That's fucked.
1159
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:36,479
- It is.
- Like I wish I didn't...
1160
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:38,159
Like outside of the show,
1161
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:39,639
I continued to try
and be her friend.
1162
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:41,479
She was at my birthday
like, you guys know that.
1163
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:44,359
That's fucked.
1164
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:46,639
But in that moment, you
believed that you were friends?
1165
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:47,999
Yeah.
1166
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:49,959
At that point in time, I did.
Yeah.
1167
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:51,999
But you still said you didn't
trust her as well, was there...
1168
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,399
Yeah, I didn't fully
trust her.
1169
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:57,559
But, you know, we had so many
conversations off camera
1170
00:43:57,560 --> 00:43:58,879
with the whole Scott thing
1171
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,159
and like, she acted like
she had my back
1172
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:03,319
and was telling me it would be
a good thing
1173
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:04,999
to write the letter
and that it would work,
1174
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:06,319
and that I'd get through to him.
1175
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,039
I really believed her word
at that time and...
1176
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,119
But did you really believe
Bec though?
1177
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:11,559
You might have believed...
- At the time, yeah.
1178
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:13,119
that you could've gotten
through to Scott.
1179
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:14,759
- Yeah.
- Surely. Surely.
1180
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:16,799
Of all of the things that she
was doing and saying
1181
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:18,479
and the way the drama
was unfolding like...
1182
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:20,079
My god, that is so fucked.
1183
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,239
Like, I don't understand
how you could get to the end
1184
00:44:22,240 --> 00:44:25,319
of this experiment and think,
"You know whose advice
1185
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:27,159
I'm going to trust, Bec's."
1186
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:28,879
Bec's, the person...
- You're smarter than that.
1187
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:30,599
who I'm going to put my trust
and confidence in.
1188
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:32,279
Like, it doesn't make sense.
- No, I don't know.
1189
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:33,959
I don't know what I was
thinking.
1190
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:35,959
Scott and I would have so many
conversations
1191
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:37,599
where he'd be like, "I'm trying
to protect you.
1192
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:39,199
"She's not your friend.
She's not this."
1193
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:40,959
And I'm like, "Oh, stop
telling me what to do.
1194
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:42,559
"Stop telling me
who to be friends with."
1195
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,159
And I'm like, oh, my god.
Like, he knew this all along.
1196
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:47,919
Again, because I wasn't
focused on my relationship
1197
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,719
and Scott, I wasn't able
to take that on board.
1198
00:44:50,720 --> 00:44:52,679
I was focused on all the other
girls and the drama.
1199
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:55,039
Look, I think that the biggest
thing to take home
1200
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,559
and take away from this is like,
it is a very good thing
1201
00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:01,799
that you and Bec are not still
in this frenemies friendship
1202
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:05,079
because that behaviour
is so deeply toxic,
1203
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:07,879
but you were also very much
in self-sabotage mode.
1204
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,319
Like, I think, and it's one
thing I know you've admitted it.
1205
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:12,279
You can see that in yourself.
1206
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:13,719
And I think that that's
something
1207
00:45:13,720 --> 00:45:15,639
that you - I didn't think
I would say this,
1208
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:17,439
but I do think you should be
proud of that.
1209
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:18,999
When you look back on it
and you go,
1210
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:20,399
"Oh, I recognise what I was
doing now.
1211
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,159
"Like, I was self-sabotaging",
1212
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:24,119
and you've done it with every
single relationship
1213
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:25,839
you've had in the show.
1214
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:29,759
Gia, in your audition,
you said you loved drama.
1215
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:31,519
You certainly brought it.
1216
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:33,639
You brought it
and got plenty of it.
1217
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:35,999
But secondly, you're
still very young.
1218
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:37,599
You've got a whole life
ahead of you,
1219
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:40,919
and this has given you
some phenomenal life lessons.
1220
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:43,479
It's made you more aware
of some of your blind spots.
1221
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:45,319
You've shared them
with us today.
1222
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:49,039
And lo and behold, at the end,
you said, "I do not trust Bec,
1223
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,639
"and all along, I should
have trusted Scott."
1224
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:55,079
And that is a pretty amazing
bit of discovery.
1225
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:57,679
So, was it as bad as you
thought sitting with us?
1226
00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:59,599
Oh, no.
1227
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:02,759
I appreciate you guys
and I appreciate the feedback
1228
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,759
and it's actually helpful,
I think, moving forward now.
1229
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:08,799
I can recognise more and seeing
that, I need to work on
1230
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,079
who I can trust and stop trying
to look for drama
1231
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:12,679
and look for problems.
1232
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:14,199
Like, there wasn't any problems
with Scott,
1233
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:15,439
I was looking for them.
1234
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:17,239
But just to reiterate
what Jules just said,
1235
00:46:17,240 --> 00:46:18,759
it's never too late
to start fresh,
1236
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:20,119
to realise that you've learned
things,
1237
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:21,879
to put them into play,
be a better person,
1238
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:23,279
be a different person
1239
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:25,479
and be the person that you want
your daughter to see as well,
1240
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:28,039
and thank you for coming on
and taking that accountability.
1241
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:29,999
And look, we know that you
are in a new relationship
1242
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,039
and we, genuinely, we mean it.
1243
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:33,919
We do hope that you get
everything out of this
1244
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:35,719
relationship that you have
always wanted,
1245
00:46:35,720 --> 00:46:37,999
and take the lessons
from this whole thing
1246
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,759
and are able to implement
them in your new relationship.
1247
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:42,919
Yep, yep. I'm trying to.
Thank you so much.
1248
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:44,599
Well, we're entering
the final phase
1249
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:46,519
of the experiment, final vows,
1250
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:48,639
and if this doesn't bring
a tear to your eye,
1251
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:50,640
well, nothing's ever going to.
1252
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:55,319
I came into this
experiment looking for love.
1253
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:57,600
I definitely found
what I've come here for.
1254
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:00,039
Here we go.
1255
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,680
I know this might
be hard to hear.
1256
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,239
Hi.
1257
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:15,999
I know what my heart wants.
1258
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:23,680
Are you...
1259
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:27,919
It's been a devastating time
for the MAFS family,
1260
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:30,519
after losing Mel Schilling,
who fought so bravely
1261
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:32,199
against cancer.
1262
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:35,159
For over a decade,
she sat next to her colleague
1263
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:37,559
and, more importantly,
her friend, John Aiken,
1264
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:38,959
as they both guided couples
1265
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:40,439
through the joys
and the struggles
1266
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:41,719
of finding love.
1267
00:47:41,720 --> 00:47:45,239
To honour Mel and her memory,
John is here tonight.
1268
00:47:45,240 --> 00:47:48,879
John, welcome back.
How are you going?
1269
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:50,839
Oh, well, I won't,
I won't lie.
1270
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:52,719
It's been a very,
very difficult time.
1271
00:47:52,720 --> 00:47:56,799
I mean, she's been incredibly
important to the show.
1272
00:47:56,800 --> 00:48:00,559
You know, she's - she was
the heart of the whole thing.
1273
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:03,399
What did this family
mean to her?
1274
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:07,439
Well, I mean, she was there
with me from series two
1275
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:10,879
and so, she saw it grow
into this juggernaut,
1276
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:14,399
and, uh, we didn't really
know how to deal with it,
1277
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:15,959
Mel and I,
1278
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:17,639
when it when it started
to explode,
1279
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:19,639
other than to lean
on one another.
1280
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:22,559
Um, and it became
our lives really,
1281
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:24,479
and every time I would
come in to see her,
1282
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:28,519
she'd squeal, jump up and come
over and give me a tight hug,
1283
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:30,119
and we would dance.
1284
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:35,959
Uh, we would, um, crack jokes,
uh, and we'd have a lot of fun.
1285
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:40,839
Um, she loved love, so she was
right into the experiment.
1286
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,639
Wanted every single couple
to get over the line.
1287
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:44,999
I can get impatient,
1288
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,719
whereas she was always hopeful
and that was Mel.
1289
00:48:47,720 --> 00:48:50,159
You know, she was
very compassionate.
1290
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:54,039
And so when she, you know,
tragically passed,
1291
00:48:54,040 --> 00:49:00,239
you know, there was so much
love that came towards her,
1292
00:49:00,240 --> 00:49:02,959
and, uh, you know,
just an outpouring
1293
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,919
of just admiration for her.
1294
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:11,239
She left a huge, um, I guess,
legacy, you know,
1295
00:49:11,240 --> 00:49:13,359
and I, you know, MAFS,
1296
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:14,919
it's not going to be the same
without her.
1297
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:17,319
I feel like you guys are here
to impart your knowledge
1298
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:18,719
on all the participants.
1299
00:49:18,720 --> 00:49:21,360
What's something that Mel taught
you over your time together?
1300
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:27,799
Oh, I think Mel taught me
to, uh, be more compassionate
1301
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:31,319
and patient because, you know,
sometimes the participants
1302
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:32,559
get under my skin,
1303
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:36,279
and, uh, I can be very blunt
with them.
1304
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:37,559
Yeah.
1305
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:41,919
She had a lot of compassion,
which I really adored,
1306
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:43,319
and, um,
1307
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:48,479
yeah, I think she left
a huge impact on me.
1308
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:50,239
Sounds like she was lucky
to have you, too, John.
1309
00:49:50,240 --> 00:49:52,919
The outpouring of love for Mel
since her passing
1310
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:56,079
is a testament to how much
she was loved by everyone.
1311
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:58,879
In many ways, she was the heart
of this experiment,
1312
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:00,399
and her impact goes far beyond
1313
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:02,079
what we have seen
on the screens.
1314
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:04,079
So, let's take a look
at all of the love
1315
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:07,159
spread around the country
and the world for Mel.
1316
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:08,839
We have some sad news
to bring you tonight
1317
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:10,159
about one of our own.
1318
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:12,239
A loved member our
'This Morning' family...
1319
00:50:12,240 --> 00:50:13,559
- Mel Schilling.
- Mel Schilling.
1320
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:15,039
- Mel Schilling.
- Mel Schilling,
1321
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:17,039
who you'll know
from Married at First Sight.
1322
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:18,919
Mel Schilling is being
remembered tonight.
1323
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:21,519
The psychologist passing away
after a lengthy,
1324
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:24,079
courageous and public battle
with cancer.
1325
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:26,479
She was just a ray
of sunshine.
1326
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:29,919
She wanted to raise awareness.
She was open. She was honest.
1327
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:31,679
- She always made you feel good.
- Yeah.
1328
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:33,639
You'd speak to her
and she was just...
1329
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:35,039
She was a real light.
1330
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:38,119
Tell us all about
the sunshine and lollipops.
1331
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:39,479
{\an8}One of the things about Mel
1332
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:41,039
is that she lights up a room.
1333
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:43,960
{\an8}Oh!
1334
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:47,479
{\an8}You know, she was my partner
in crime through all of this.
1335
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:50,639
{\an8}I couldn't have done
it without her.
1336
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:54,439
It won't be the same.
1337
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:56,599
{\an8}She would be, you know, saying
1338
00:50:56,600 --> 00:51:00,079
{\an8}that you've got to keep moving
forward, keep fighting.
1339
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,719
Lean on people that are
really close to you
1340
00:51:02,720 --> 00:51:04,559
{\an8}and tell them that you love
them.
1341
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:06,519
You get one shot
1342
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:08,520
and my friend, Mel...
1343
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:11,839
took her shot and lived it...
1344
00:51:13,720 --> 00:51:17,279
...with all the sparkle
and all the light,
1345
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:20,519
and it was incandescent.
that light,
1346
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:22,640
it has reached so many
around the world...
1347
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:27,319
and I feel so blessed
that I was able to stand
1348
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:28,959
so close to her light.
1349
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:30,879
Oh!
1350
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:32,119
So, much excitement!
1351
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:35,239
And I will carry her
in my heart forever.
1352
00:51:35,240 --> 00:51:38,679
Well, the person I'm thinking
of for Jules is Cameron.
1353
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:40,359
Yeah, there's this sparkle
that she had,
1354
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:42,119
and I think that's
how she led her life.
1355
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:44,479
She loved love.
1356
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:46,679
I think that's why we
became such good friends.
1357
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:49,480
She loved her job and she
loved helping people.
1358
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:51,879
She was pretty special.
1359
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:54,719
Absolute couple swagger,
the two of them.
1360
00:51:54,720 --> 00:51:56,679
She was a rock for everyone.
1361
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:59,279
I would be proud to be
a fraction of a woman.
1362
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:01,959
Can you see yourself
falling in love with Rhi?
1363
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:03,239
Yeah.
1364
00:52:03,240 --> 00:52:05,199
Thank you for what you've
done for us as a couple.
1365
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:07,239
If it wasn't for her guidance,
we wouldn't be here today,
1366
00:52:07,240 --> 00:52:08,519
where we are.
1367
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:11,279
I will never forget the
kindness that she afforded
1368
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:13,199
onto me during the experiment.
1369
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:15,079
But I also will never forget
just how much
1370
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:16,519
her smile lit up a room.
1371
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:19,719
We'll forever be so thankful
for the guidance and the love
1372
00:52:19,720 --> 00:52:20,919
that she gave us both.
1373
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:23,039
Every day, I look
at my daughter,
1374
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:24,679
I think of what we've been
through.
1375
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:27,199
The advice that Mel gave us
1376
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:29,359
and that will continue
on forever.
1377
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:31,559
She always had these smiling
eyes
1378
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:33,919
that you could always look to
in any situation.
1379
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:38,439
We now have a family
and that is due in part to Mel.
1380
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:40,039
Her support and believing
in us.
1381
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:41,959
And the type of person
that she was
1382
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:43,479
and, um, it's just something
1383
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:45,039
we'll forever be grateful for.
1384
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:46,239
Beautiful Mel.
1385
00:52:46,240 --> 00:52:48,839
I feel so honoured
that I got to meet you.
1386
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:54,319
Always so kind, so radiant
on and off screen.
1387
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:56,079
We're gonna miss you so much.
1388
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:57,879
You just left feeling
so happy and energised
1389
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:00,039
because she was just
this lovely, warm,
1390
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:04,439
kind, energetic, intelligent
pocket rocket of a person.
1391
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:06,919
I have to say, we have
loved having you
1392
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:08,359
as part of this experience.
1393
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:11,199
Your future is so
incredibly bright.
1394
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:13,399
I really want to thank Mel
for her advice.
1395
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:15,319
It's these uncomfortable chats
that need to happen.
1396
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:17,079
Yeah, thank you.
1397
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:20,839
When you do come up against
challenges, tackle it together.
1398
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:24,159
Stay curious, ask those
questions and allow each other
1399
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:27,800
to keep getting closer 'cause
that's where the magic happens.
1400
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:39,879
Yeah, that sort of sums
her up.
1401
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:43,039
Just beautiful, inside and out.
Yeah.
1402
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:45,399
- Yeah.
- Well, beautiful tribute, John.
1403
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:47,319
Thanks for coming in, my friend.
1404
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:49,439
- That was difficult.
- Yeah, I can imagine.
1405
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:51,599
Well, that is us for tonight.
1406
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:55,439
The most explosive series
of MAFS is coming to an end.
1407
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:57,799
Final vows airs tomorrow night.
1408
00:53:57,800 --> 00:53:59,879
Everything is on the line,
and every couple
1409
00:53:59,880 --> 00:54:02,439
has a massive decision to make.
1410
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:06,599
Then next Sunday and Monday
night are the reunion episodes.
1411
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:08,959
Who lasts the distance
and who doesn't,
1412
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:11,159
and who still has an axe
to grind?
1413
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:13,719
You can catch it all
on Nine and 9Now.
1414
00:54:13,720 --> 00:54:16,399
And don't you worry, guys,
we aren't done yet.
1415
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:17,959
We'll be back for the next
two Mondays
1416
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:20,639
where we've got two
new epic specials for you.
1417
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:23,199
First, we will get all of
the goss after the reunion
1418
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:25,399
and then the following Monday,
with everything
1419
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:27,639
that has happened
after the experiment.
1420
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:30,199
See you next week,
right here on Stan.
1421
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:31,400
- Bye!
- Bye!
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