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The lore around Palkar and Pothle is that it's one soul that's constantly

birth over time. This is your eighth birth? Yes.

How has your vision of the world changed?

Now our society, they've started to put so many masks.

that we've forgotten our true faith. You're trapped in your own self and your

ego prevents you from asking for help. To gain peace internally, I think that's

the goal of human life. But how does one even explain this idea to people still

caught up in the material race?

I don't think everybody can be taught to become spiritual.

Some people just don't have that karma from their past life.

If you get to a point of enlightenment, you have the opportunity to combine the

Himalayan Buddhist deities and their consciousness.

Yes. Then you see no separation between yourself and the deity. You see them as

qualities of the true nature of your mind. It's incredible.

I'm of the belief that if you actually want love, that's the energy you have to

give out as well. But this is where a lot of young people end up going wrong

because in that search for love, they end up settling at just losing.

People generally want to be loved. I think it's this hunger for love they

participate in such an act and then they get lost.

What we know, happiness in the mundane world, they're not real happiness,

they're pleasure. Real happiness comes from within. The moment you undertake

this inward journey, then you understand how the world also functions.

You are the only obstacle to achieving your happiness.

This episode is a deep dive into the world of Buddhism, most specifically

Himalayan Buddhism.

We're going to understand the concept of deities and mantras from the

perspective of Himalayan Buddhism. As a Hindu who's grown up in India, of course

I've been exposed to the world of the Buddha, to Buddhist values.

But at this phase of my life where I'm trying to deep dive into my own faith,

Hinduism, Sanatana Dharma.

I've found that my understanding of my own faith has been heavily benefited

through the study of Himalayan Buddhism and the Buddha.

That's the kind of conversation I'm trying to bring to you through this

It's my favorite guest related to this topic. His name is Palgar Rinpoche.

He's back on TRS. We've created a few iconic episodes in the past.

This one is our Buddhism special.

There's very intense energy.

Throughout the course of this episode, I will let you enjoy it. I will let you

learn from it. And I will let you evolve in your own private space when

it comes to this conversation.

It's a special one with Palga Rinpoche.

I think the world needs Buddhist philosophy right now more than ever.

Born in a Hindu family, studied a lot of Hinduism or as we call it Sanatan

Dharma throughout my life.

But discovering Buddhist philosophy was probably one of the most important

additions to how I live out my professional life, how I navigate my

relationships with friends and family.

And just about how I look at the nature of life. I feel like I've seen some

storms recently.

But it was the meetings with you over the years that helped me navigate these

storms much better. And that's the intention behind this episode. I hope a

of people get introduced to Buddhist philosophy through this particular

And I consider you one of my biggest blessings in my life. The way you

my life and the way...

That helped out my life process.

I just want to give that to every audience member.

Too many mental health issues flying around all over the world.

Too much self -doubt.

Too much emptiness.

And I feel people are open to conversations that are spiritual but

have access to people like you.

Om Mani Padme.

Rinpoche, thank you for being with us.

Would you like to begin by responding to anything that I just said?

Yeah, I think the issues in our societies, whether it's in the

East or the West, because now there's not that much distinction.

Before there used to be distinction, but we live in a very much of a global

society.

Everything is instantly accessible right now.

Before news used to fly after weeks, months.

Now it's instant.

So there's not much difference between the issues we're facing in India, in the

subcontinent, compared to the West or to an African country or Southeast Asian

country.

I think it's so many different reasons.

But one thing I noticed about the Buddha's teachings, a few things I

about the Buddha's teachings, why they're very unique.

They are universal and they are timeless. I noticed these two qualities

Buddha's teachings. Obviously, who am I to judge the Buddha's teachings, but

that's my observation.

Universal because it applies to everybody.

Everybody has the same issues and his teachings apply to everybody. It goes

beyond cultures, countries, continents.

Universal. Not only applies to humans, but also applies to animals, applies to

every living being.

Timeless because, like you said, in today's world, more than ever, we need

Buddha's teachings, Buddhist philosophy.

It's timeless.

Buddha taught roughly 600 years ago.

That's a long time ago.

How many worlds were created?

How many invasions happened?

How many, in Hindi, you would say, nakshay change happened?

How many maps have been redrawn?

But the Buddha's teachings have...

retained their quality beyond time. So it's timeless.

Universal applies to everyone.

Timeless because it's still relevant.

Yeah, so I think in our society, the issues basically remain the same.

Confusion. We're confused because we don't understand the phenomena, the

that we interact with. And we also don't understand ourselves.

We don't understand the object. We don't understand the subject.

We don't understand these two.

This is exactly where I would like to take the conversation.

This is what Buddhist philosophy helped me with.

You understand the world better as well as understand yourself better to help

navigate through life.

The question I'd like to put in front of you is what has the teachings of

Buddhism said about the purpose of human life? It can't be as simple as just

make money and die.

That's a very...

popular question that I get asked all the time what is the purpose of life

according to Buddhism or in general I think Buddha never actually I mean

I haven't read all his teachings they're like volumes and volumes at least the

canon Buddhist canon that we study which comes from the Sanskrit translation

from Nalanda there are 108 volumes thick thick volumes what is it called it's

called Kanyush Kanyush the buddhist canon means command teaching

means translation so basically the buddhist canon it has been translated

bhoti which we also known as tibetan but it is studied outside tibet in tibet

obviously bhutan ladakh you know nepal so many different Himalayan regions.

So I haven't read, I mean, I've read them all. I've received the

but I haven't had time to stop and reflect on each and every one of them.

There's so much of them.

So I don't know, maybe in one of the scriptures, Buddha must have said, this

the purpose of your life. But as much as I know, from a Buddhist perspective,

there is no such thing as this is the purpose of your life.

I think the purpose of your life,

You have to give it a purpose.

You have to give it a meaning.

And sometimes you are able to give it a meaning and to do something

purposefully.

Sometimes even if you want to, you can't because your karmic conditions don't

allow you to.

You don't have the luxury to make your life purposeful or meaningful.

You just have to go with the flow because you have to worry about your

sustenance. You don't have the luxury, free time to do something very much that

aligns with your thinking or whatever purpose you feel there is.

So I don't think from a Buddhist perspective, there is an ultimate

But you have to give it a purpose.

I have to repeat a question from a Hindi episode.

You said that you're technically not referred to as a monk. Yes. But you're

referred to as?

Tulku. Tulku.

What does that translate to?

It translates to, from, it's a Boti word, and it translates to magical

born, magical body, magical birth.

Basically Nirman Kaya, you know, it's a reincarnation. So that's the technical

definition of what I am. Do you feel like that on the inside? Not at all.

No, I don't. I feel, I feel it's a big privilege given to me by my Guruji, His

Holiness, the 12 Galwan Rupa.

He discovered me.

I belong to the Drupal lineage and Palkaran Puche has been reincarnation,

avatar, guru of Drupal lineage.

He found me, he discovered me.

I've been bestowed the blessing by him, responsibility by him. But I've never

felt very special or anything extraordinary.

I've always tried to be humble, live, you know, think of myself as a normal

person and try to live like one.

But that's what people believe. That's what my community believes. I think the

overarching name of this sect of Buddhism is Himalayan Buddhism.

Across the Himalayas, they follow a shared sense of what Buddhism even

And Buddhism is one of those faiths that has really spread far and wide

geographically, especially in Asia.

And wherever it spread, it's taken on the nature of the local faiths as well.

They've mixed into it.

I have a couple of questions.

The first question is, what's the commonality in all the Buddhists, right

Sri Lanka up to Japan, in China, in the Himalayas, in parts of India?

And the second question is, obviously with respect to the Himalayan Buddhist

faith, how does this one stand out?

Okay. Common thread would be that

Because Buddhism, I see it as water.

Buddhism is not exactly a religion like the other religions.

It is not exactly a faith also because there's not that much

element of believing, just raw believing.

Buddhism is based almost entirely on logic. It's a very logical philosophy.

philosophy, a way of life. It's very difficult to define Buddhism in one

So for the sake of conversation, people see it as a religion and people call it

a religion.

But I see Buddhism as maybe the essential spiritualism.

The essence of spiritualism. That is the way I see Buddhism.

And I see Buddhism or spiritualism Like water. It can fit any vessel you pour it

into. That is why it has been adopted by so many different regions and cultures

in Asia, across Asia, over the times.

That's why you see so many flavors.

If you're into computers, it's like Linux.

Open source. So you can compile it in any distribution you want.

You're not stuck to Windows 95, 98, whatever it is, Windows 11.

It is more like Linux, open source, and you can compile it to any distribution

you want.

So Buddhism is a bit like that.

So the confusion also there is because there are so many different flavors and

you don't know which one you should follow, which one is right for you.

The common thread between them, there are so many of them.

Major common threads, you would say, we take refuge in the Buddha as the guide

in some cases.

And as the destination, Buddha, in some cases. We take refuge in the Dharma as

the path to reach that state, to become like our inspiration.

And we take refuge in Sangha.

Basically, taking refuge in Buddhism can be defined as getting the help of,

taking support of.

So, you take the support of Sangha to understand the Dharma, to become a

buddha dharma sangha it is like going across this river the boat and the

or the sailor so the sailor is like the sangha who will help you use the boat

which will help you navigate across to the other side which is buddha which is

enlightenment so that is a common thread between all flavors of buddhism can i

just recap this a little bit and then please correct me if i'm thinking okay

wrong

the overarching goal of every Buddhist and I'd also honestly say every

Any of the faiths that have come out of this land, the goal is the same, which

is getting out of the cycle of birth and death by reaching that point of

enlightenment.

Within Buddhism, it's believed that the Buddha or Gautam Buddha, as we

know, is the ultimate inspiration.

Equivalent of God.

Not really.

We don't see the Buddha as a God.

When you talk about God, you automatically think about somebody who

world, who will destroy the world, who will punish you, who will benefit you,

reward you.

We don't see the Buddha in that way at all. In Buddhism, we don't have this

belief in such an entity.

So Buddha to us, he was the first teacher.

A great guide, a great example.

And basically that's it. And he taught us how to achieve the state that he

achieved. And we are trying to follow that path. Is there any element of an

omnipresent higher divinity?

Not in the same sense that you talk about God, no.

Okay. Yeah. Not like the creator and the destroyer and the, you know, yeah,

punisher. Could you think of it as a state of evolution for...

Every human being?

Buddha.

This divinity.

Could it be a, you said that the boat is rowing towards one point. Yes. So the

goal is to get to that point of complete divinity. Yes. Which you can read

through enlightenment.

Yes. We call it enlightenment.

When you say divinity, it's also a bit confusing from a business perspective.

So we just call it enlightenment. Basically, fulfilling your potential.

So right now,

We think that we know ourselves.

When I pointed my hand at you, like, what's your name? You think Rinpoche is

talking to me.

And my name is Ranveer. I come from such and such.

I'm this and that old.

That is your ever -changing identity.

Your age changes.

Your name that has been given to you by parents was given after your birth.

That is not your essential name.

And even if you feel your nature is calm,

How is Ranveer? Is he a calm person? Is he an aggressive person?

He's a very cool person. He's a very calm person. But depends.

Depends how you agitate him.

Tomorrow if he becomes very agitated, maybe he won't be as calm.

So in that way, we think that we know ourselves.

But we actually don't. Our real nature, our essential nature doesn't have any

name. It doesn't have any changing, impermanent characteristics.

It is...

very universal it is very pure that is what we call enlightenment so basically

it is like this gold hidden in a rag so the whole process of buddhist practices

is to unravel this rag so that you see your true potential so the journey is

very much outwards but it's more inwards understood okay and as

for the sangha sangha right

Is it equivalent of the people around you or the guides?

Yes. Yes. So there are different definitions of Sangha. There are

varieties of Sangha.

From a very common perspective, you have monks, you have teachers, you know, who

dress like us, who practice, who study and then try to help somebody enter the

path. But then you have more evolved Sangha like Bodhisattva, like

Avalokiteshvara. Like Tara.

They are also Sangha. Because they are with you. As a community.

They don't see you as an exclusive.

They don't see you separate. They see you as one of them.

They see every sentient being. Doesn't matter which religion, which faith. As

long as you are in Samsara. They see you as one together.

That's what we call Sangha.

So these beings are highly evolved.

Basically that's you after maybe 1000 years of evolution.

Let's just say. On the spiritual path.

So you have achieved.

You've gone beyond your biological forms.

Your consciousness has reached a state that is very fluid. And you can take any

shape and form you want.

They are almost perfect beings.

They are almost like supernatural beings.

And they manifest in different, different forms. And they are beyond our

comprehension. That is why we cannot see them directly.

That is why we construct statues and write paintings.

Tara's painting, Tara's statue, you know. But that's what we call

That is the enjoyment body. That is the body that they live in.

That is the mystical body that they live in.

But through our naked eyes, you can't see it.

Is this the defining factor of Himalayan Buddhism?

Not the defining factor.

Himalayan Buddhism or Vajrayana Buddhism goes deeper.

So you take the idea of reaching the other side, practicing the Dharma with

help of your community.

And on top of that, now what kind of dharma do you focus on? Do you focus on

very simple ones or do you employ many different tactics in order to reach your

goal? So in Vajrayana Buddhism, it is the most skillful method -wise, skillful

Buddhism, also the most flexible.

It is a little bit like the end justifies the means.

Obviously, not everything can be justified.

But in terms of achieving your goal, We practice tantra, mantra, yoga, we wear

yantras, we do lots of breathing practices, visualizations. So we employ

every method possible to achieve enlightenment within one lifetime.

The goal is still enlightenment.

Yes. The dharma or the path is still full of Buddha's teachings.

Yes. So the road is the same. Like if you want to go from here to Andheri, the

road is the same.

But maybe if I use skillful means, I may take a Ferrari, which is faster.

You're not very skillful. So you will take an auto.

Maybe the next person will go on a bicycle. So who will reach faster?

If the road is empty, I will reach the fastest.

So that is the basic idea.

You're skillful and you're not very ashamed to use a loud V12 Ferrari and,

know, consuming a lot of fuel. Your intention is that you see life as a very

precious commodity, very precious opportunity to reach your goal as fast

can. Because next life, you have no idea where the karmic wind will take you.

I mean, you can prepare yourself.

but not entirely it's up to you. So you're not sure.

Even though you try your best in this life to prepare yourself for your next

life, you try to give it a direction, but you don't know whether the

will be favorable or not.

Okay.

I'm trying to find words to describe my own understanding of Vajrayana Buddhism.

I have experienced it in Dharamsala a little bit. I've experienced it through

conversations with you.

For me, what speaks to me a lot, again, because I'm from a Hindu background,

I'm...

obsessed with the Dharma that Buddha taught the world about. In fact, I have

friend of mine, Acharya Prashant. I think he's one of the most well -read

when it comes to Hindu scriptures.

And he had said this on a podcast. He had said that Buddhism is the essence of

the Vedas as well. So the absolute way of life as described in the Vedas is

embodied in Buddhist teachings anyway.

I think that one can only benefit

irrespective of what faith they belong to. I think one can only benefit from

understanding Buddhism more deeply. As a Hindu, I've tried understanding

Vajrayana Buddhism much more deeply. I've tried reading about the deities

especially because we have deity culture in Hindu lore as well.

We have mantras here as well.

How do you explain a mantra to a Western audience?

That's my first question.

And secondly, based on what you just said about the Himalayan Buddhist

I believe that they are manifestations of certain good thoughts.

Like the manifestation of compassion is ablution.

Similarly, Tara would be? Activity.

Okay. Wisdom, Manjushree.

Got it.

Now the thing is, these are higher beings, supernatural beings.

Our human brains, our biology is not capable of perceiving them because we're

not evolved yet. But you can put yourself on the path of evolution and

eventually you will start perceiving them as well.

If you get to a point of enlightenment, you have the opportunity to combine with

their consciousness.

Yes. You, then you don't separate.

You see no separation between yourself and these deities or whatever you want

call them. You see them as qualities of the true nature of your mind. So the

compassionate quality of the true nature of your mind would be Avalokiteshvara.

The wisdom quality of the true nature of your mind would be Manjushri.

Power quality aspect of the true nature of your mind would be Vajrapani.

Activity aspect of the true nature of your mind would be Tara.

So you would see that way. But along the path, you may see them as deities that

appear to you in your dreams, in your meditation.

They may guide you, but essentially they're not separate from you. They've

always been a part of you.

So the higher you go in spirituality, especially in Buddhism, you see a lot of

paradoxes. So it's a bit confusing.

Sometimes it appears to be one way, but then it's not.

So there are lots of paradoxes in higher levels of spirituality.

Another thing about evolution would be like an ant, a small ant cannot

understand how the large hadron collider functions.

Particle acceleration, Higgs boson, quantum computing.

You cannot teach to an ant.

To an ant, the world is very abstract.

It just knows how to take care of, of course, it's a very complex creature.

It works in its own community, takes care of its nest, very complex, but it

cannot construct a bridge. It cannot fly a rocket to the moon.

It will not understand. Even though the rocket exists on the same planet that

the ant is busy building its nest, it may feel the vibration of the rocket

taking off, but still it has no understanding.

Where the flight is, rocket is going, what its purpose is, or how does it

function. So, from our perspective, we are a little bit like the ants.

That's a very crude metaphor, but we are a little bit like the ants.

These things appear.

They can be loud. They can be very ferocious sometimes.

You're talking about the deities. Yes. The manifestations.

So, yeah, I mean, it can be very confusing sometimes, but it'll take us

understand, to evolve so that we can fully comprehend what these are.

And then, yeah, so that's one thing. Mantras.

To the general audience who don't have any idea about mantras, mantra in

Sanskrit, it's a Sanskrit word, mantra.

And in Boti, it is translated as, or in English, protection of the mind.

To protect the mind. So, we chant mantras to protect our mind from bad

emotions, bad thoughts. Yeah.

Negative emotions.

Medicine for your internal world. Yes.

Yes. It's quite simply put. So, chanting, for example, Avalokiteshvara,

Chirithik, Buddha of Compassion, it's a very good antidote for anger.

Om Mani Mani Om Mani Padme Om. Yeah. So, if you are facing anger issues, What I

suggest people.

Don't react.

Don't react immediately.

Take a deep breath.

And just close your eyes.

And just chant.

Internally. You can chant it verbally.

You can chant it like a meditation.

But chant it.

Just the chanting utterance of the mantra. The frequency it carries.

The connection it has to.

An aspect of the true nature of your mind. It will.

It has the power to.

calm you in a very effective way.

So you can chant Om Mani Padme Hum when you're feeling a little bit troubled,

angry. If you want to grow your wisdom, you can chant the mantra of Manjushri,

Om Ara Patana Di.

Om Ara Patana Di.

It's very good for your wisdom, especially when you wake up in the

at dawn and you chant the mantra so we usually chant the last syllable multiple

times

yeah

you

can look more into the mantras and they help i don't know how it happens it

unlocks something in your consciousness helps you grow more in terms of your

wisdom so that the world makes more sense to you.

Is there a certain time you're supposed to chant a mantra for?

Not really.

Not really.

No, you can chant it anytime you want.

Mantras are timeless, universal.

So you can chant them anytime you want. How much time should you give your

practice ideally?

It depends on you. But what I usually suggest to people who are new to

meditation and spirituality or chanting mantras, you don't do it for like very

long duration because you're not used to it. It's like working out.

Let's say today is your chest day.

You can't do chess for like three hours. You will die.

But if you're like Arnold Schwarzenegger, Ronnie Coleman, you can

three hours. And they can lift very heavy.

So you're not trained to do that. So I suggest you do it for maybe 10 to 15

minutes. Take a short break. Go to the washroom.

Stretch your legs a little bit. Couple of minutes. Come back. Again, sit down.

But when you do it, you do it with totality.

You don't move here and there.

You don't watch your phone.

You don't check your, you know, feed.

nothing you don't respond anything you're completely locked in so it's good

put your phone on airplane mode not even dnd airplane mode completely maybe

preferably in the next room quiet place eventually you'll be able to do it in

very noisy situations you can do it in the park in the traffic at the airport

i do it all the time whenever i feel like it so because i'm i can tune into

because i'm used to it now

In the same way that Ronnie Coleman and Anusha Srinagar will be able to bench

press at the airport, in the bus station, you know, wherever they are,

find a workout.

So likewise, I can do it wherever you can, but I've done it for many years.

So initially you should do it in short duration, multiple times.

10 minutes, take a break, 10 minutes, take a break, 10 minutes, take a break.

you get used to it. Then you can slowly increase the duration.

Let's try understanding mantra practice more deeply.

I think it's a very doable act for people all over the world. If they're

to actually dive into the world of mantras and practice it, there's a lot

benefit that they can experientially see.

Even a week of mantra chanting, but putting your own emotional self into

mantra chanting session can create magic in your life.

Okay. I know that there's multiple deities in the world of...

Now, sometimes when I am having to explain Hindu Tantra to some of my

friends, I tell them that, see, the ultimate goal is enlightenment, moksha,

nirvana.

There are multiple pathways to that goal.

The simple, close pathway is be a good person. Do what's good in the world.

Purify your mind, purify your heart, purify your actions.

If you want to do it faster, perhaps meditate.

Yes. And another way of doing it even faster is go about tantric practices.

Yes. Now tantra includes mantras as its very core aspect.

Yes. And then the physical objects within your practice, these are called

yantras. Yes. They use the correct... technical guided usage of yantras and

mantras leads you to that point of enlightenment perhaps faster than even

meditation. Yes, a very good understanding.

Now, when we speak about deities within this whole process, they are higher

beings that assist you on that journey. Yes.

But every time you are using a particular mantra associated with a

will definitely have impact on your own reality, on your own internal world as

well. So in my eyes, I feel like when you go about deity -based mantras,

performing chemistry and chemical experiments with reality.

That's how I look at it in my mind.

Every mantra bends your reality a little bit. Every mantra session bends your

reality even more.

How do you know which deities to incorporate into your practice and how

even choose the deity that's right for you?

Or do you have to just choose one and hang on to it?

Very good question.

See, we are human beings.

We have preferences.

We have favorites.

Like, our favorite club is Manchester United.

My favorite player is Bruno Fernandes.

Even though our club is doing really bad right now, I still like him a lot.

Even though we have 11 players, they don't perform very well all the time.

Bruno doesn't perform well all the time.

But I like him.

He's my choice. I like the way he works hard.

I know he can be a bit annoying to some people, but that's it.

Personality, that's the passion he brings.

So he stands out. Even though you need 11 players to win a game, Bruno cannot

win it alone.

In the same way, on the spiritual path, there's so many deities.

You need all their assistance as much as you can because you are completely

powerless right now, spiritually.

You need the power, you need the help of higher beings, evolved beings who

possibly live in a very different dimension.

But they can access your dimension at certain times with certain practices.

That's why we do those practices.

We chant the mantras while performing certain rituals, tantra, where we have

lots of objects, yantra.

Then you kind of call them from their dimension into our dimension. And then

have an interaction.

In the same way that you can go to Old Trafford and watch the game live.

You have to buy a ticket, you have to wait for your turn, blah, blah, blah.

You can also watch it on TV, but it's not the same thing.

But then you need 11 players.

So you need the help of all the deities you can.

But obviously as human beings, you have a certain connection to somebody.

So then you may have a preference for a deity or you may feel very close to a

certain deity for no reason.

Me, when I was young, I have been practicing Mahatara since I can

Every day at 5 o 'clock in the morning, in my small monastery in Jwalsar,

Himachal Pradesh, in Zikar Gumpa, I would wake up. At the first gong, you

I would wash my face.

Until the gong is finished, I would go to the temple with all the monks and we

would do Tara's practice.

So that's all I can remember. So I have this natural connection to Maa Tara.

My favorite color is green.

Especially dark green, which happens to the color of Tara, the main Tara. There

are 21 different Taras, but the main Tara is green.

Why are there 21 different Taras? I mean, no obvious reason, frankly

But there are different manifestations of Tara to assist beings.

I don't know exactly. There's no obvious reason why there are 21 aspects of

Tara. But the main Tara is green Tara. So I love green color. I'm close to

But then I also practice Om Mani Padme Hum.

Avalokiteshvara. I feel very close to Avalokiteshvara also.

Manjushri obviously when I was young.

You know I chant his mantra. I read his scripture.

You know that's the word. The scripture. Very good to grow your

wisdom. Your mind. You know.

Sometimes you.

prefer a deity and then you practice it or sometimes you feel just naturally

connected and then you practice it you know it depends so you can also ask

yourself after you get some introduction to the different deities in buddhism in

vajrayana buddhism especially and then you look at them and you chant the

mantras you just feel which one is vibing with you you can stick to that

don't constrain yourself just to that After practicing, after getting a good

foothold, get teachings of the different deities, you need to receive the

abhishek. You need to receive the empowerment of the deity.

You can chant the mantra of the internet in your room, but it doesn't have the

same effect as receiving the abhishek, the introduction of body, speech and

mind, the introduction with the deity.

Once you receive the abhishek, it is like pouring water into water. How do

receive it?

You have to approach a guru, a qualified guru.

Most of the times the gurus give it in the public.

Which are permissible to be given to the public, they give it in the public.

So in Ladakh, I give a lot of empowerment at the end of retreat to

people so that people can chant, practice more effectively.

I've given it multiple times.

And of course, Guruji also gives, you know.

So it is given to a public in a public setting.

and people receive the body's patient basically it's more more than that

abhishek you are basically getting the body's patient mind of a deity literally

being poured into your body's patient mind water and water so then you won't

able to tell which water is from ladakh which water is mumbai that is the whole

idea so once you become one with the deity you have to literally brainwash

yourself thinking that i am tara i feel like tara whatever i say is tara

You know, then you see your abode as Tara's abode. This is what we call pure

view. Very difficult.

And you have to see everybody as Tara also, as Avalokiteshvara, which is

impossible, especially when somebody tries to harm you. You see them as evils

and you don't see them as bodhisattvas. You don't see them as deities.

But that's the idea.

And that's what you should endeavor to visualize, to practice.

Very tough. But you can start by basically chanting the mantra, receiving

abhishek. empowerment chanting the mantra learning how to visualize yeah

then uh getting the instruction for a tantra so that you can practice in a

or then eventually you can practice it yourself so the

the um abhishek that you give is for the tara mantra Yeah, I give Taras,

which I received from my own Guru, His Holiness.

I received the empowerment of Tara, Avalokiteshvara, you know, many

Bodhisattvas. So I practice them. Then as a Rinpoche, I am, you can say,

to give to other people also. Yeah.

I have many more questions, but I'm going to pause this and request you to

the Tara Mantra for us.

Because for anyone listening to you for the first time, I just want them to

experience the energy in their own earphones or in their own rooms or cars,

wherever they're listening to this podcast.

And I know I've asked you to do this before on the show and I would direct

audiences to our old episodes as well.

But I will ask you to repeat the Tara Mantra once for us.

Satsang with Mooji Satsang with

Mooji

Satsang with Mooji Satsang with Mooji

Thank you.

You said that Tara is the manifestation of activity.

Is that execution upon creativity?

Yeah, you can also say that creativity, the technical definition would be

enlightening activity, not mundane activity, enlightening activity,

that propels you and all beings towards enlightenment.

So Tara is the manifestation of enlightening activity.

That's what the green also represents.

I mean, I can't say that if you pray to Tara, you'll become very active. But

I've honestly felt my activities growing the more I practice Tara.

My work increasing, my reach expanding.

You know, you just grow a lot in terms of your activities.

So whether it's mundane activities or spiritual activities, you literally grow

lot. So those people who feel stuck.

who are not able to reach growth, I would suggest maybe try chanting Tara

Mantra.

Not just with a sense of, you know, greed.

Transaction. Exactly. Not a transactional one that I will chant so

mantra. I want to become active, but just chant it and pay attention to the

activities. I'm sure your activities will grow a lot. When you break down the

mantra.

each syllable has a meaning yes and it's beautiful it's basically not om when in

in english when we write we write it wrongly we write it om we it actually

should be written a u m it is body speech in mind in buddhism

we call it the three doors

Three doors.

Basically, door is where something comes in and goes out.

A door, body, speech and mind is through something. You experience something

physical, something verbal, something mental or you perform something

something verbal or something mental. It's like a door.

With my body, speech and mind, that's all you have as a person, as a being.

Tara means swift, fast.

So Tara, if you look at her painting, she's sitting not exactly cross -legged.

If you look at Buddha and any other, they sit in a very swift, cross -legged

position. We call it Padmasana.

Some cases we call it Vajrasana. Very stable.

That denotes stability.

That shows how stable their meditation is, their enlightenment.

Tara, she sits one leg like this and one leg extended.

So Om Tara. Tara is represented by her right leg. That she is swift.

Like a mother.

Have you ever noticed a mother eating in a restaurant? Or in a house?

She is eating.

Her child is there also eating.

But the mother always has her eyes on the child.

And is ready to jump out of her seat. To help the child. The mother will never

be completely relaxed.

So Tara is basically.

motherhood in its essence yeah it's so beautiful so like a mother she's swift

immediate like our own mothers you ask them for something they will not delay

they will give you immediately you want roti you want dal you want love you want

money whatever you want they will give it to you immediately that is the

of mother so tare represents is represented by tara's right leg which is

extended so that she's ready to jump out of her throne To help anyone who calls

to her.

Tu tare.

Tu tare is represented by her right left hand.

Tu tare signifies protection.

Like a mother.

She is very protective of her children.

Doesn't matter whether she is physically capable or not. She will fight till the

last breath. And she will protect her child or children.

So that's protection left hand. Right hand. Om tare tu tare tu re.

right hand is resting on her knee right knee denotes giving mudra mother always

gives she is never stingy she will take out of her own mouth her own pocket and

she will provide for her children she will not eat but she will provide for

children whatever the child wishes so that's denoted by her right hand om tare

tu tare ture swaha is i bow down with my body speech and mind om swaha om tare

tu tare ture swaha with my body speech and mind i bow down to the essence of

motherhood To Mahatara, who is swift, who is protective, and who is giving.

So nice.

I feel like asking you to break down some more mantras. Okay, I can.

There's a mantra, I don't know which deity it belongs to.

I actually heard it on an audio track by His Holiness the Dalai Lama.

It's something like, Om Mani Mani Ha Mani Sa.

Can you say it again?

He is Muni. Muni is Lord Buddha. We call him

Muni, the saint.

So this is a mantra that shows reverence to Gautam Buddha.

So it's basically showing your reference to Muni, the great Muni, Mahamuni,

Swaha. Very similar meaning to Tara.

That you pay your reverence to such a Tara.

Swift, protective, giving. So you're paying your reverence to the great Muni,

the Muni, Lord Buddha. So this is a particular mantra of Buddha Shakyamuni.

Since you've sat in the chair today, this is the third recording of the day.

I've wanted to bring up Chakra Sambhara a lot. It's been coming up in my mind

and I've not brought it up until now.

Okay.

Chakra Sambhara is also related to Kailash Parvas.

We consider it the abode of Chakra Sambhara, Kailash.

I'd just like to know everything about Chakra Sambhara today.

Wow.

Chakra Sambhara is not exactly a historical being.

So you won't find...

biographies of Chakra Samvara written that he performs such and such he is in

its essence he is a very Vajrayana deity he is a Buddha not

exactly you know low level deity he is a complete enlightened

Buddha but the way he appears is in a very wrathful form and

it's difficult to talk about Chakra Samvara because there are so many

aspects They are chakra samvara with two arms, two legs. They are chakra samvara

with multiple arms, multiple legs.

So, chakra samvara is more of a practice than an actual, you know, biographical

deity that you can talk about.

So, chakra samvara is more of a practice.

So, to understand chakra samvara, it is better to practice chakra samvara.

Or at least enter the lineage where Chakra Samvara is practiced.

So my lineage, Drupa lineage, Chakra Samvara is our main principle.

Deity, principle, Buddha.

And Chakra Samvara's consort, Vajrayogini, is the principle female

They are always in union.

Sometimes they are separate. But even in a separate form, the male or the female

is represented in a very hidden form.

So, for example, Vajrayogini, there is a very famous aspect of Vajrayogini where

she is standing in a dancing mudra. Right leg down, left leg up, dancing

with a crooked knife in the hand, one couple full of blood.

She is very wrathful. You know, she has three eyes, four fangs with a blood

dripping skull around 50 heads around her neck. So, she looks very wrathful.

looks very...

You know, in a way, very, you know, very, very scary.

But if you read her tantra, even her four fangs represent, for example, the

four, freedom from the four maras, from the four evils. Yeah. Three eyes

represent seeing the three times.

Yeah. Able to see past, present and future. So nothing is off limits to her.

can see everything. So it's also, she has so many different, even her aspect,

just to visualize.

Vajrayogini or Chakra Sambhara it's like visualizing or

conceptualizing the entire Buddhist teachings so they're condensed in such a

represented in a deity as a deity as a human deity human like looking deity

but the moment you visualize them and you chant the mantras you're basically

trying to absorb all of the teachings in that very instant so it's very very

powerful very heavy and obviously you need proper guidance until you reach you

know you become comfortable practicing that so yeah so Vajrayogini when she's

alone form she has this trikul but it's not with the trikul with the three

points it's the trikul with the Vajra and that is Chakra Samvara in a trishul

form that she's holding we call it Vajra Trishul what is Vajra? Vajra is

Well, you know from Sanatana Dharam, Vajra is the ultimate weapon.

The weapon of Indra.

You know, Vajra is something that can destroy anything, but itself cannot be

destroyed.

So, it is basically like this object here, Vajra. So, he is holding a

but the tip is Vajra, not a three -pronged trident. So, that is Chakra

in a hidden form, concealed form.

So, to understand Chakra Samvara in Vajra Yogini, you have to...

practice them it is more of an understanding than to you know

very deep spiritual level than to know it from a conceptual level is there a

mantra that you're allowed to share publicly or are these not really okay

not really because they are uh very high level practices that in our lineage we

receive the teaching after we complete a lot of preliminary practice

foundational practice

going about the normal human life, we can't even imagine how many secrets are

associated with our own faith.

And they'll reveal themselves if you actually engage with the practices

to your faith.

Often people question why they're born in a Hindu family or Jain or Buddhist or

Sikh family.

One of the answers is that, hey, you have access to your ancestors'

but it depends on how much action you're willing to take.

And it's the honor and pleasure of my life to get to know About Buddhist

from you.

Because there's so many things I can adopt into my own practice as well. So

little things.

So that's the beautiful thing about Buddhism.

Lots of gurus always say that they have Christian friends, Muslim friends, Hindu

friends, Sikh friends, Jain friends.

And sometimes they say that they are actually more Buddhist in terms of

than they are some of their own Buddhist Buddhists.

So then you can see that Buddhism is not...

a religion that you have to convert to it is not an exclusive subscription it

almost like i said it's not exactly a religion so it's very difficult to

buddhism it is more a philosophical spiritual way of life adaptable by

adoptable by anyone so i have some muslim friends they're very buddhist

mean that they have to give up islam i have some hindu friends they're very

buddhist they If you look at their practices, they are 100 % Buddhist.

But then they don't have to abandon their faith.

As long as it isn't contradicted with some of the core Buddhist values, you

know, then it is easier to practice.

So in Buddhism, for example, if you take refuge in Dharma, we say that you

should abandon harming beings, other beings, harming animals. So try to be

vegetarian and so on.

We try not to unnecessarily cause harm to human beings and animals and insects,

whatnot. So if you see a mosquito flying here, we will never squash it. We'll

try to sweep it away. Let it run its own cycle of life.

You know, it has a right to live. So there is this respect for life in

That is one of the core codes of moral codes of Buddhism.

That you respect all life.

That is at its heart.

You know, we've spoken in detail about so many of these deeper practices. In

past episodes also, we've spoken about where you go out in the middle of winter

into... It's Tumonli. Yeah, yeah, Tumonli.

So basically, we receive a very special set of teachings from our Guru, His

Holiness the Gelwong Rupa.

And if you want to know, honestly speaking, okay, now this is a good

for me to...

give people a more visual medium to experience tantric

buddhism vajrayana buddhism himalayan buddhism however you want to call it on

social media okay so guruji is very skillful in his own way he

has founded his monastery in nepal and he believes a lot in

feminism women rights so he has almost exclusively taken female

monks we call them nuns nuns and Guruji in his own creative skillful method he

has taught them Kung Fu so they're known as Kung Fu nuns very famous they've

appeared in multiple documentaries featured on BBC and so on

You should check them out on Instagram.

They have this page. And they practice self -defense.

They encourage feminism. They encourage women's rights.

They do lots of cycle yathras to raise awareness about women's rights.

They do lots of padhyathras.

And they also, if you check their Instagram account on the YouTube also,

see a lot of rituals, tantric practices that they do in the monastery, Guruji's

monastery in Nepal.

So that gives you grim.

into how these practices are done i mean obviously each and every detail won't

be there but sometimes you can follow it a live stream you know of a certain

practice you can just watch it on your ipad or your iphone and you can just

listen to it it's incredible so right now i'm sure there's so many different

lineages so many different monasteries who practice the purest form of

but as much as i know in my own limited knowledge.

The one that is practiced most faithfully and truthfully are my

sisters, the Kungfunans.

Really, you should check them out. They are incredible and they do this.

Last year, they got permission to shoot from far when they were entering

the mountain and coming down.

The beginning and the ending of the practice.

Obviously, they don't have the permission to be shot video while they

actually doing it.

But they are incredible.

In Ladakh, there is a place called Kotha in eastern Ladakh, where even phul

govi, cauliflower, you have to boil in a pressure cooker, seven whistles.

Only then it cooks.

That is the level of altitude we are talking about, the level of coldness.

Even cauliflower takes seven whistles in a pressure cooker to cook. There, they

go to the mountain and they practice tummo.

And they wrap their bodies with a wet shawl and they dry it.

with their inner heat.

And they dry it multiple times. This is out in the open, right?

Out in the open. In the middle of January.

And they usually start around 11 p .m. and finish by 7 a .m. At the coldest day

of the year.

And they only employ breathing, visualization, some mantras preparation

takes place. They do some very specific practices, yoga practices, breathing,

that they prepare themselves.

unwavering faith in buddha dharma sangha and our guru and our lineage so that

it's incredible man i mean i you know it's it's something that you should uh

should look up and um try to get a glimpse into how many years of practice

it take to even qualify to do uh it doesn't take that much it's not a very

practice to learn but to perform it fearlessly without getting scared of

hypothermia and death I mean, it's very intimidating.

All of a sudden, somebody is telling you to go to minus 30 in the middle of the

night with a group of spiritual people who are not talking to each other, just

chanting mantra in their meditation.

You prepare for a month, very strict diet.

No, I'm not allowed to talk too deep into it, but basically no external

of heat.

Just internal heat. So you're not allowed to eat chili.

You're not allowed to bask in the sun. No sunbathing. You're not allowed to

touch sun rays.

So you have to jump like a ninja from shadow to shadow.

I felt like Assassin's Creed, you know.

Really, when we were doing this.

Jumping like a ninja. Jumping from shadow to shadow.

And no heating.

No heating of any kind.

So basically just your practice.

And then you have to perform it.

main reason is to burn your negative emotions your negative karma all kinds

negativity that is in the past in the present yeah so it's incredible it gives

you a sense of power it gives you a sense of confidence that is that is

incredible it's one night yeah they usually do it for one night yes but

it doesn't take that long to you know to to understand the practice.

But then to prepare for the practice, until you receive Guruji's permission,

that can take, I think, a few years, maybe. You have to do a lot of

preliminaries. You need to have a good grounding into your understanding of

Buddhist philosophy. Why are you doing it? Are you doing it for Instagram?

Are you doing it for YouTube?

Are you doing it for mundane, you know, gratification?

Or are you doing it for spiritual, you know, purpose?

So if your intentions are right, your motivation is right, if you're doing it

based on Karuna,

endeavor to achieve wisdom, then you get permission.

It's incredible.

What do you feel the next day?

Next day, you feel relieved.

You feel, I'm talking from a very mundane perspective.

You feel happy that you haven't died.

Yeah, but you feel very happy. This happiness, we call it great bliss.

It just flows in your body, in your nadi, the psychic channels, because of

breathing, because of your visualization.

There is this happiness that literally flows. Happiness literally flows in your

body. And you're not having a coffee. You're not dancing.

You're not watching a movie.

You're not doing anything sensually pleasurable. You're just like this and

can't help feeling happy.

Even your pores of your body, you can feel the hair rising. You just feel this

happiness oozing out of the pores.

It's incredible.

So that's where I discovered that what we know of happiness in the mundane

world, they're not real happiness, they're pleasures.

And we think of them as happiness.

So when we watch a nice movie or when we see something beautiful, like, I don't

know, whatever you want to see, it's pleasure to the eye sense.

When you wear some nice clothes, when you go in air conditioning, that is

pleasure to the touch.

When you eat something nice, there's pleasure to the taste. So these are

pleasure, sensual pleasures.

They're not happiness.

I think real happiness comes from within.

It is spontaneous.

And you're the only obstacle to achieving your happiness.

You're the only one that's standing in the way.

So the moment you change your focus from outside to inside, the moment you

undertake this inward journey, you start going deeper and deeper into yourself.

You start... Getting to know yourself first very well, that gives you a sense

confidence. Then you understand how the world also functions very easily,

simultaneously.

That doesn't create too much conflict.

You're at peace almost all the time.

So it becomes livable.

It becomes livable in the city.

The world is, as we know, it is very unlivable.

There's so much grinding that happens all the time.

Even if somebody asks you, how are you? You have to smile and say, I'm okay.

But inside, I always say nobody's okay.

Everybody has a crack.

Big crack, a small crack.

Doesn't matter how rich you are.

You've seen.

What does it bring? It doesn't bring lasting happiness.

It brings momentary pleasure.

But then they become a memory.

And sometimes they become addictive.

And you want to keep recreating those pleasures.

People get stuck in death and bad habits.

And it goes pretty much south.

Yeah. You know, one of the words I've been pondering upon a lot over the last

year is hedonism.

It's something I picked up because of all the travel I did last year. I

all over the world. I was in Singapore, Dubai, UK.

And I've traveled a lot in my life.

And I think this is true for human beings all over the world. You see a

less hedonism in the subcontinent.

And you keep seeing more of it as you go out. And I'm not...

approaching this from an egoistic perspective i'm just trying to be

observational hedonism loosely means uh living life

with the intention to gain pleasures constantly and for me after i traveled i

realized that this is the biggest beauty of the subcontinent that yes there is

hedonism but it's slightly lesser than the rest of the world and it's the

advantage of being born in the subcontinent I was discussing this with

met in the UK. I was like shooting for podcasts and I was swimming one day and

met this really cool guy, really buff.

He was working out well and we started talking about sports.

And then I realized that he's also an immigrant in the UK. He's from Latin

America. And I asked him this about hedonism. He's like, actually, there's a

of loneliness in the air.

And that's what leads itself into hedonism.

I thought about the subcontinent again. I realized that there is loneliness here

for sure. Everyone's lonely all over the world.

Slightly lesser loneliness in the subcontinent because we have a very

sense of community.

India, it's like you have a very supportive friend circle.

The friendships here are genuinely deep, which is not the case for the rest of

us. But you understand that when you travel to the rest of us.

Yeah, I think people generally want to be loved.

I think it's this hunger for love.

That maybe sometimes, maybe not always, but sometimes they participate in such

acts. And then they get lost. It becomes a habit.

And maybe they have the means to recreate that experience again and

So they keep doing it again and again. So it becomes addictive.

And they don't know otherwise.

And because they are stuck in this loop, recreating this experience, physical

pleasure, over and over again.

They stop believing in love.

Or they think love is a fantasy.

I think at its core, everybody wants to be loved.

Everybody is craving for love.

Love is also very karmic in a way.

It very much depends on your past connection.

Everything, every relationship.

A relationship between me and my dogs is also karmic. The love I have for my

dogs is karmic. The love I have for my parents is karmic. The love I have for

friends is also karmic.

You don't have the same connection with everybody.

It's very difficult to know what level, to what degree do you have a strong

connection with somebody.

But then I think once in a while it is possible to meet somebody.

who is genuinely very lovely, caring, with whom you vibe very well,

and who treats you with respect equally, and is not only a loving companion,

but also a good friend.

I think when you engage yourself in these kind of meaningless, hedonistic,

physical pleasure, recreating again and again, the chances of meeting somebody

and then that person liking you are very slim.

compared to if you live a more disciplined life you know if you don't

necessarily always go after these physical pleasures maybe there are the

that you will encounter somebody nice who will love you for who you are with

whom you can have a lovely life wonderful life uh ethical you know moral

think that increases so i think you're shutting the door if you are

participating too much in this kind of hedonistic uh lifestyle i think it's

i'm of the belief that A human being can manifest every aspect of their life.

I'm of the belief that a human body, mind and spirit can work as a magnet.

So if you actually want love, that's the energy you have to give out as well. If

you give out love to all beings, love will come back to you in some way or the

other.

But this is where a lot of young people especially end up going wrong because in

that search for love, they end up settling and just lose.

Yeah, I think this is one thing that has bothered me. How much do we know

somebody? You know, when you talk about presenting yourself physically,

mentally, you know, emotionally, expressing it to attract love, how much

is superficial and how much of it is actually meaningful?

And also, how much do you know somebody when you talk to somebody?

Recently, it was Valentine's.

You know, I'm sure lots of people propose to each other and they always

each other's face into the eyes and then they profess their love or whatever,

you know, and they think that they know the person.

But how much of a person do you actually know? You're only looking at their

face, at their eyes, which is like maybe 5 % of the body.

You have never looked at somebody's knees, elbows, knuckles, feet and said

oh, you look lovely.

You know, I care about you so much.

But that is also part of that person.

The leg is a part of a person.

The arms, the elbows, they're also part of a person.

But then we never acknowledge them. We never, I mean, how much do we know about

people? We think we know a lot about people, but we always settle only for

appearance, the beautiful makeup, the beautiful look that you represent to the

people so that you can attract good companions.

And then it becomes very shallow.

So I think you should look, when you look at people, not only look with your

eyes, but you should learn to look with your heart also.

Yeah? Feel how the person is. Not just see how the person is. Feel how the

person is.

We have known each other for the past four years now, roughly.

And we have met not that much every now and then.

But then I feel how you are.

Entire nation knows how you look like and they may be attracted to you or

not. But I go beyond that. I feel how you actually are. I can feel you. I feel

you at a very complete level, very deep level.

So I don't just look at Ranveer with your hair, with your face, with your

clothes. I feel Ranveer.

I feel your consciousness.

You know what I mean? I'm with you at a deeper level.

So there is this sense of strong bond.

that's friendship, that's love in a way. And if you can have something like

that, that kind of affinity with your partner, with a man, with a woman, I

then life becomes, love becomes real, you know, a relationship becomes very

meaningful. Then you realize that all these hedonistic practices are very

superficial and, you know, you should, I think it's good to be loyal and

dedicated and life becomes very beautiful. Do you think marriage is good

everyone? I think it's not for everyone.

Because like I say, everybody is karmically conditioned very differently.

Everybody is.

We don't always have the same compatibility.

But I think marriage is an institution that has been happening in societies for

so long. So we are used to that.

I am no authority on saying whether it's good for us or bad for us. I think, you

know, it is if you meet somebody.

that you really connect with at a very deep level, I think you should try to be

together with that person in whatever capacity you can.

And people who do get married, I always give advice.

Sometimes I'm a marriage counselor, so I give them advice.

You know, the honeymoon period is going to vanish soon. That excitement is going

to fade away soon.

After that, what are you going to fall back on?

What is your plan B?

And they have no idea.

That's when usually marriages break down because they don't feel the same way

that it felt during honeymoon period. All of a sudden that physical excitement

is gone because you've been living together continuously for six months,

year, whatever it is. So I always tell people, make friendship the base of your

relationship. Whatever relationship you have, mother, son, husband, wife,

girlfriend, boyfriend, make friendship the base of your relationship.

You have something to fall back on. It's built on a very strong foundation.

So tomorrow, even if that excitement is gone, you will remain friends. You will

care about each other.

Have you ever met a monk or someone, you know, who's a full -time practitioner

of a faith?

Fall in love with someone else.

Yeah, that happens.

That happens because like I said, karma is a very strong force.

So there's only so much that is in our hands.

Sometimes you encounter people.

in your life that you just don't have any control with. I've seen many.

Are there strict rules when it comes to Buddhist monks in terms of marriage?

Yeah.

When it comes to the common monks, normal monks, they have to adhere to

celibacy vows when they are part of the monastic institution.

And some of them can be quite strict. They are not even allowed to touch a

woman. be in the same room with a woman.

They're not even allowed to have dinner.

So not only with the other sex, but also with their eating and sleeping habits.

There's so many rules and codes to follow.

So then you have many great masters who are married, who have children.

And in their practices, having a wife or having a consort really enhances

their spiritual growth.

What has been changing?

in your own mind over the course of this birth of yours um you briefly mentioned

on a hindi podcast about how sometimes you feel 400 years old because as palgar

in poche the lore around palgar in poche is that it's one soul that's constantly

taken birth over time so according to that logic this is your eighth birth

yeah are you looking at the world differently and of course You know, we

about all these tantric practices as well. You've been performing them for

years, technically.

How has your vision of the world changed?

Wow, that's a very profound question. I think I have to try to tap back into my

consciousness, maybe some of my archival data.

I think the world was simpler back then.

People were bothered with simple distractions.

Now the distractions are more sophisticated.

More addictive.

Everything has become so layered.

I tell people that now our society, on a personal level, individually and as a

society, they've started to put so many masks that we've forgotten our true

faith.

I went to Kumbh and it was a beautiful experience.

I really...

I think that everybody should experience Kumbh.

Doesn't matter what religion you belong to.

Because it is the biggest gathering in humanity.

And, you know, for a very good purpose.

Execution, I don't know. But the purpose is very good. For spiritual growth, for

spirituality.

So when I went there, I saw so many sadhus, saints, completely naked.

Some people see them as naked and feel a little bit shy because they're

revealing almost everything.

They look very scrawny. They look very, you know, like physically dirty.

But I didn't see that. I saw, I saw truthfulness. I saw they were, they had

removed their masks.

Yeah, they were not pretending to others and to themselves.

Same thing Milarepa did, the great Tibetan yogi from our lineage.

Naropa did the same thing. They looked like these sadhus.

They lived very simple lives.

They were more concerned with removing the masks that they had accumulated

for so many lifetimes than to put more masks.

In our lifetime, what I've seen as a Bulgarian pochi in this life, on a

spiritual level, also on a societal level, people put so many masks here.

And then they forget their own identity.

They get completely lost within.

People who are lost outside, it's easy. You can use Google Maps. You can find,

go here and there. Somebody will give you direction. But somebody who's lost

within, you're trapped in your own cell within.

It's kind of like a spiritual prison, a mental prison, an emotional prison.

It's so converted. And your ego prevents you from asking for help.

Because you put so many layers, so many blankets.

You've literally stuffed yourself under.

10 layers of blanket. You can hardly breathe.

You can't see anything. It's become so heavy.

That's what I've seen. So that's the saddest part. When people lie, they

to be something else.

They lie to themselves.

They lie to their loved ones.

They betray each other.

Whereas life is precious, momentary.

Experiences are beautiful if you allow them to.

You know, we have this incredible capacity to understand things.

We can be spiritual.

We can be smart. We can build rockets and bridges and whatnot.

Yet we still behave.

In Hindi, I say, you know, that even animals have more insaniyat than humans.

Yeah. So that is a sad part. That's what I've seen. People putting on a lot of

masks, forgetting their identity, getting lost, not only outside, but also

especially inside.

What goes on in your consciousness now?

Now?

Actually, nothing, man.

Nothing. You're concerned with your practice?

No, not really.

You're just flowing.

Yeah, it's a very strange feeling. It's like, have you been to a very serene

lake? And you see the lake simmering. I feel a bit like that. When you look at

the lake and it's golden time, golden hour.

And you see beautiful...

reflections like diamonds and it's literally simmering there's no big waves

know it's just i feel like that i feel i'm very calm at the same time there is

this aspect of of sparkles everywhere you know i just experience it in a very

in a very different way of course things don't work according to myself all the

time the world doesn't spin around me around Ranveer Radhabadia the world

doesn't spin around anyone

I understand that. But then it doesn't bother me as much as it used to.

I have a theory. I believe that any kind of material growth is always a

reflection of your spiritual growth on the inside.

I might be wrong, but this is what life has taught me over the years and even

over the course of this show. I feel that if one spiritually grows on the

inside, it does reflect in their own material reality.

Now there's a story from your life where you were in Portugal for some time and

you left spiritual ways for some time. Yeah, you can say that.

But you started investing in the stock market and I don't know polite way of

putting this, but you made a lot of money. Yes.

In my eyes, that is just a material reflection of your own spiritual level.

And eventually you tasted that aspect of life and you realized that no.

The real liquid gold is back in the Himalayas.

And you came back here.

And now you talk about this consciousness of yours, which is like a

during golden hour.

Over the course of the podcast, I've come to realize that I think that's the

goal of human life. You know, to gain peace internally.

Have you heard of Ankit Bhai Anpurya? The Ram Ram Bhai Saryane.

You know, the guy who made reels.

He was the fastest growing Instagram account ever in India.

I'd had him on the show and...

That was his consensus as well, that the goal of life is actually peace. It's

not just success.

I feel where you are with this internal golden light lake, this is where every

human being needs to be.

I mean, the goal is still enlightenment, but this is a very beautiful place your

consciousness is reached.

But how does one even explain this idea to people still caught up in the

material race for success?

And therefore jealousy, therefore anger, therefore greed.

That's very tough because like I said, we are all

karmically conditioned differently.

We have accumulated, we have planted so many different kinds of seeds in our

past lives.

We don't know what kind of seeds we have planted, which flower, what fruit.

They sprout every now and then.

So, not everybody is the same. And hence, I don't think everybody can be

to become spiritual.

Some people just don't have that karma from their past life.

Not that you should not try. You should try.

But then, it's not that they are just evil. It's just that there is no seed in

that pot.

So it doesn't matter how much water you put, whether you put water from the

Himalayas, Ganga, you know, mineral water, nothing will grow because there

seed.

But then some people are quite ripe and you don't have to do too much and they

will grow.

One way to try to bring people towards spirituality, the inward journey, try

to get them to reach that simmering golden hour lake is through mediums such

this podcast.

Very effective.

So not everything we have said was in a very systematic way.

We are having a conversation.

We did not come with a 1 to 10 bullet points. I didn't come with an answer.

We're just talking as brothers, as friends, having conversations.

Our experiences are limited.

Maybe they relate to some of the audience, maybe some they don't. But I'm

some of the things that we discussed will inspire them to embark on a

journey where eventually,

according to their own karma somehow they will reach that simmering golden

colleague that is why i love being here yeah but i think your podcast this

platform reaches so many people you have helped to impart so many

countless hours of wisdom i don't know what kind of people you have had Even if

I spend eight lifetimes of Pagal and Pushya, I don't think I'll be able to

understand everything that you have managed to communicate through your

But somehow, somewhere, somebody has benefited.

So, I think this is a very good way that you can help spread messages of hope,

inspiration, trigger something in their consciousness so that they will be able

to reach that simmering golden aurca lake themselves.

That is what Buddhist philosophy is for me.

All I have to say is thank you.

And I look forward to seeing you again in life.

Likewise. There's so much else that I wish to say to you Rinpoche, but let me

just encapsulate all that by saying I'm on the same mission as you.

So thank you for everything. Thank you for being here.

Very therapeutic simply talking to you. So this was much more just for me than

even for the podcast. So thank you. Means a lot.

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