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Come in.

Could you get the handle?

I'm sorry?

Oh, it's unlocked. Oh, hey, come on in. Hi.

Hi, how are you?

Thank you.

Oh, okay.

Hi, I'm Dr. Vanske. Oh, I don't do that. I'm sorry.

It's really nice to meet you.

Okay. I'm Alex.

Oh, nice to meet you. Great, Alex.

Please, have a seat.

I really don't mean to be, um, like an inconvenience or anything, but, um... Do

you have anything we can wipe the couch with?

Oh, clean it, you mean? Uh -huh. It's just the germs. Sure, sure. Yeah,

The germs.

Oh, yeah, well, no, I understand. Sure, actually.

Yeah, we keep some stuff, cleaning products around here, you know. Oh,

wonderful. Thank you.

Especially after, uh...

I just don't know who sits on it, and I just, I can't touch their germs, and

it's just a thing of mine.

Is that what brings you in today?

Um, yeah, yeah.

I've been, um, I've been recommended that

I seek a little bit of help for, um, they call it hypochondriac.

Oh, has that been professionally diagnosed?

Excuse me.

You know, I haven't seen a psychiatrist or anything. It's just my primary.

Thank you for cleaning that. No worries. I want you to be as comfortable as

possible. I want you to think of this office as a safe space for yourself.

Anything you want to discuss? Anything you're not comfortable with?

Please, don't hesitate.

Let me know, and we'll make it right for you, okay?

I'm going to be as comfortable as possible. Thank you. I'm really sorry.

No, no, no. Don't be sorry. Do you find yourself having to apologize a lot for

feeling this way? Are other people probably judgmental, maybe?

I've been told I, you know, inconvenience in people's lives by

extra work to clean for me.

Okay. All right.

Especially my friends and my family.

You are here because you have a hypochondriac disorder that you like to

care of.

Do you feel like it affects your life on a daily basis?

Yeah, it definitely impacts my day -to -day life and limits the things that I'm

able to do.

You know, my friends and my family, they do a lot more than me.

I'm sorry, is that a camera?

Yes. As I've done on them, there's actually a couple of cameras that I run.

find it easier than taking notes sometimes.

I go back and interview. And plus I find sometimes when I take too many notes,

patients feel like I'm not paying attention to them. Maybe I'm doing

working on my schedule or something to that effect. Okay.

So, no, I like to keep the cameras around and minimal notes. Okay.

Is that okay? Yeah, I'm sorry. I just wanted to know. Oh, no, don't worry.

roll all the time. I forget they're even here. Yeah.

All right.

Don't worry about that. Okay.

Well, let's get to know each other a little bit. Why don't you tell me a

bit about yourself?

Okay, yeah, sure.

Well, my name's Alec.

I have a dog.

He has to be...

I have an allergenic dog because of the shedding. I can't do the shedding.

What kind of dog are you? It's a Labradoodle.

Okay.

Yeah, her name's Polly.

Polly. Yeah, she's a sweetheart.

So we're going on a walk with my dog, Polly.

I have a few friends, and I have two siblings.

Okay.

I live with my family still.

Do you have siblings? Are they younger or older?

One of each. I'm a middle child.

Oh, okay. Yeah.

Okay, great.

Well, parents are divorced. They're parents together.

My parents are still together.

I know.

We're lucky at birth these days, huh?

Well, marriage is about a 50 -50 gamble, they say, right?

That's not good odds, I don't think.

You wouldn't go parachuting if the odds were 50 -50, would you? No, I mean, I

wouldn't go parachuting if the odds were 100.

I thought you'd think. No.

Yeah, so that's pretty much it.

I hang out with my family and my friends.

Polly and... Well, let's start with Polly. As an example, take your dog for

walk.

Someone who's affected by, you know, hypochondria or germs.

You find it difficult to clean up after your dog. You find it difficult to

maintain your dog.

Oh, yes.

Grooming, washing, all that type of thing. There's a lot of responsibility

that. How do you find...

Do you hire other people?

My siblings really help a lot.

I can't take Collie out on walks if it's muddy because then I can step in the

mud. Oh, yeah. And I need new shoes.

I was going to ask you about that.

How do you get around like that?

I go through shoes a lot.

Do you? Yeah.

Wow. Because I know what your shoes are going to have.

They're clean. Yeah, they're a few days old. A pair of shoes that last me, I

mean, just depending on the weather and what I do, maybe like two weeks.

Oh, wow. Yeah.

Well, that's expensive. You know, they really pick up on germs. They're walking

on the ground and everybody else is touching the ground.

Trash goes on the ground. Yeah, I know. It's just really, it's not sanitary.

No, no, no.

Maybe you're home.

do you take specific cautions of this type of thing to to keep that to a

or how's your living situation yeah um my parents have had to get to get it

um to really keep the place extra sanitary so i'm like comfortable moving

the whole The whole place.

Before that, I just would stay in my room because I could keep that clean.

That's true.

But they didn't want me to be, like, limited to just my bedroom. So we have a

maid now who keeps the house clean.

And your overall health is good?

Very healthy. It's because I stay away from all the germs.

Well, that's what I was going to ask. Your immune system is functioning well.

But, you know, one problem is people try to avoid germs a lot.

If you don't come into contact with germs on a regular basis, your immune

doesn't know how to fight them.

So sometimes exposing yourself to these types of things can actually be

beneficial and healthy. I know it's hard to overcome that initial reaction of,

like, oh, it's germs, it's dirty, it's not good. But, you know, you don't want

one day to be walking down the street and someone sneezes and you just fall

dead. You know, this will happen if you don't come across germs on a daily

basis. So what do you do? So, like, I noticed you wouldn't even open the

doorknob, right? Mm -hmm.

Huh.

That's really tough. So you just... So say you go to the restroom, and you're

stuck in the restroom, and you can't leave.

I don't really use public restrooms. You don't use public restrooms? No, I just

limit the water or liquids that I'm intaking when I'm out.

Wow. Yeah.

You just never know who's been in them and when it's been cleaned last.

So it's just what works for me.

Huh.

Okay. All right. Yeah, I mean, it's very... I know it's silly.

It's not silly. It's a very common condition, and it's something that a lot

people deal with. I don't want to say suffer from, because it's not as though

it's some sort of incurable illness or anything of that nature. It's a very

normal reaction. Have you had people like me before?

I have. Really? I have.

Some of my methods are a little bit unorthodox. We can get to them, but very

successful. There's been progress?

I have. I've had patients come in and, I mean, it takes a little bit of trust

and quite a bit of work, actually.

It's not like you're going to walk out of the office today and be completely

cured, but the goal today is to start this process, make you feel comfortable

where you can.

function in society you know not feel like you're hindering some people or

or feel held back in a new sort of way um that would be nice so do you find it

are you in a relationship do you find it difficult to have a relationship with

uh well

That's kind of something that's like encouraged me wanting to get help.

this guy that I really, really like and he really likes me back too.

And he said he'd be really patient with me and he's been really patient. But he

says that he really needs more and, you know, cares about me and wants to

express that physically, his words.

And I want to be able to do that for him because I really do like him. I don't

want to lose him just because I can't, you know, be physical at all. So you

can't be intimate in the least.

How long has it been?

We've been together for six months.

Okay. Yeah, and, I mean, all my friends, you know, everyone, I know what

everybody's doing. They tell me what they're doing with their boyfriend.

And, like, we go out to eat and everything, and they're all holding

they're kissing.

Yes. And I can't do that with mine.

And I just want to be able to be normal like everybody else and make my

boyfriend, you know, feel good.

Okay, yeah.

These are all easily attainable goals.

Yeah. This is nothing, this is no...

Major thing that you can't overcome.

Thank you.

Okay, so six months.

So no sex?

No, no sex. No sex at all? No.

And he's okay with it? He's understanding of your... He's been

but I feel like if I don't do anything now...

He's going to slip away, and I might lose him.

You don't want that. No, I really, really. He's been so patient. He's a

good guy, and we have a connection.

Yeah.

But he said he's even comfortable starting slow.

He just needs to start somewhere.

I totally understand.

Just out of curiosity, so if you had a situation and someone were to try to put

their...

I was thinking, hmm.

So, no touching at all?

Well, I just don't know when you washed your hands last, so... Well,

why don't we try this? Why don't we try it from a distance?

My hands are clean, I assure you.

I wash on a regular basis. Yeah. Well, especially in the world we live in

Yeah.

60 seconds?

Under this. Oh, yeah. Yeah, absolutely.

Washing back and forth.

I'm just going to try to touch you.

We'll start from the far away.

Start with your foot.

Try to touch your shoe. Uh -huh.

Is that uncomfortable?

Yeah.

Yeah, that's uncomfortable.

I would say uncomfortable is the word.

It's just...

Just touching your foot? Yeah, you're touching my shoe.

Yeah, okay.

Oh, so now that probably doesn't... You'd probably think that that would...

should get a new pair.

Hmm.

What if I were to tell you there's nothing wrong with that shoe that would

bother you, that could possibly harm you physically?

Do you know that?

Yes.

Yes, I do.

Yes, I do.

I'll approve a point.

See?

Nothing at all that can harm you.

It's just a shoe.

Okay.

Did I die?

I don't think so. You're sitting right in front of me.

Then I'll be here tomorrow.

Okay. And I promise there'll be nothing left. I can't. I'm not going to do that.

No, I wouldn't expect you to do that. I'm going to take baby steps. Okay.

Okay.

I can do baby steps.

I want to do baby steps.

It's good.

Baby steps are good. Baby steps are really good.

You know, I want to try this. Why don't we have you start by standing up?

Sure.

Okay, great.

Now, so suppose you're in a heart of train or a

situation where you're in a bar or something. People are very close.

Uh -huh.

How does that make you feel?

Um... Uncomfortable?

Just our shoulders touching?

Yeah.

It almost hurt, like my skin.

I feel like there's crawling.

Like your skin is literally, do you feel like your skin is crawling? Yeah, like

there's bugs just crawling on my skin.

Oh, wow. So having your

space just slightly invaded makes you feel that uncomfortable?

Mm -hmm.

Yeah.

Yeah, that doesn't feel great.

No, huh?

No. Well, I think maybe it's part of the problem. Oh, but I didn't.

Yeah, well, you know, we're going to try a little experiment.

Sure.

I'm going to ask you to take your top off.

My shirt?

Yes. Okay.

Yeah. I think maybe part of the problem is I

feel like you're enclosing yourself off, like you just have layers of...

Like an onion, just like layers and layers of keeping people away from you.

You know, I think if you, maybe you were to start there,

allow yourself to feel a little vulnerable.

Feeling an onion.

Just going somewhere where you're not exactly 100 % comfortable.

I've been told so, I can imagine.

Just an onion, yeah.

Yeah. Happy place.

Happy places.

I want you to think of this, this,

This boyfriend of yours, this patient, loving, caring, considerate... Brad?

Brad? Think of me as Brad.

Okay. Okay, just try to imagine.

I'm Brad.

No, don't keep your eyes closed.

Brad's just going to touch you, just nervous and softly.

Not too intrusive.

You want Brad to touch you, right?

Yeah, I do.

Yeah, I do.

Brad wants to touch you.

Mm -hmm.

Brad definitely wants to touch me.

I bet he does.

Does this feel terrible right now, imagining that I'm Brad?

Could be worse.

Could be worse, right?

Mm -hmm.

Is your skin crawling?

Not as much.

No.

I think he's not a stranger anymore.

No. He's someone you care about.

He's the one I care about.

I know.

If you care about him that much, I think you owe it to him to really

make this therapy work for you.

Okay? He deserves it. He does. He does.

Now, don't let me have a seat. You sit right there. Sure.

Okay.

You're making great strides.

Thank you.

You're right to start. Thank you for being so patient. No, no. The patience

what it's all about here. You know,

we're trying to establish a trust, a little trust and bond between the

and the patient. And I think we're doing very well.

I think so, too. We're doing very, very well.

Yeah.

So. Okay.

Let's talk a little bit more about this intimacy.

Are you a virgin?

Yeah.

Never had sex with anyone?

No.

No. How old are you?

I'm not supposed to ask any of that.

Well, I'm asking as a doctor.

Okay, you're going to have to answer.

But most girls your age probably have had sex by now, right?

All my friends have had sex.

Sure. Like with multiple people.

Well, how do you feel about that? How does that make you feel?

A little left out.

Yeah? Yeah.

Do you think your friends are dirty for having sex with multiple people?

I mean, like you said, they didn't die.

Right, yeah, they didn't die.

Not like they're...

Walking around with communicable diseases or anything, right?

Well, they probably know they could be.

Well, they could be, but most likely. They seem okay.

They seem okay.

Well, safe sex and promiscuous sex are two different things.

What you're talking about is a nice, strong, healthy relationship with Brad,

I don't see any reason.

Why you two can't have a physical relationship of that nature.

He talks about wanting to just, like, kiss my neck.

Mm -hmm. And, like, caress my body.

Sure. Sure. Those are all great things to do. How do you feel about that?

I want to get there.

Okay. I do.

Mm -hmm. I do. I feel like I'm missing out on something.

You know, all my friends tell me just how good.

Orgasm feels.

So have you only had an orgasm with yourself?

No.

So you don't even masturbate? No, because there's juices

and bodily fluids.

That's the best part, though.

Really? Yeah, that's what makes you you.

It's your life flow. It's your energy.

It's your woman -ness.

That's your hormones.

I mean, I'm sure Brad can smell the pheromones when you're in the room. He

that he wants to taste it.

Yes. I mean, it's an animalistic instinct.

It's a primal urge, really.

And again, it's all very scientific, but it's all very natural as well.

We speak from our underarms, from our private ears, and from the bottom of our

feet. That's where your feminine pheromones come from.

Right. So, that being said, I think we should continue

this exercise.

Will you pretend I'm Brad? Will you close your eyes?

Okay.

Okay.

It wasn't so bad, right?

Kind of too cold.

In a good way? Mm -hmm.

See?

See how much closer we are right now?

Yeah, aren't your knees touching mine?

He doesn't seem to bother you, does he?

Not so much.

Okay. I'm closer. I'm not

a

therapist. I've tried a few.

I've never made much progress.

I've tried to be kind of tactic.

Well, I appreciate you saying that.

My methods are a little unconventional.

It's not what everyone does, but I do have experience in this field.

I've also just never been so motivated, you know, now that I have Bratz.

Well, Bratz sounds like a real nice guy, and I'm going to make sure that we take

care of the two of you, okay? Yeah.

All right. Now, why don't we have you stand up? Okay.

I'm going to, uh, I'm going to have you, I'm just going to have you take the

top, what's that top off?

Just make sure it's folded nicely.

Yeah, like that.

Okay.

Um, no one else sees the camera.

Oh, you see this? No, no, no, no, no. This is, this is.

purely for my own research.

Okay, I'm not trying to question you. No, no, no, that's a reasonable

Just wanted to ask.

No, no, you don't, I can understand that. Especially, you feel probably

vulnerable right now.

Yeah, that's one word for it.

Yeah, yeah.

Well, let's start with the skirt then.

We'll take the skirt down as well.

Like an onion, we're just going to peel off these layers.

I think these articles of clothing kind of make you feel like protective layers.

And I think... I don't want it to sit on the floor for too long. Oh, no.

The idea is to slowly peel away this

clothing and make you feel a little more vulnerable each time.

Pardon me in advance. I'm not sick. I just...

Excuse me. Oh, no.

You're fine.

You're fine.

All right.

Would you have a seat, please? Okay.

Was there a dog in here or something?

No, no, no. You have the allergies? Maybe.

No. No, maybe you just feel a little... A little bit in your head. Maybe it's a

little... Yeah, yeah.

I'm okay. I want you to lean back. Okay.

I want you to close your eyes again.

I want you to...

Think about Brad.

I want you to think about Brad.

Okay, I want you to do this.

Think about Brad.

Imagine I'm him.

Brad.

I'm on your feet.

Let's start here.

They're clean. I shower twice a day.

You know?

I don't want you to think about that. I want you to think about Brad. Okay.

How was that? Was that okay?

That was hard.

That was hard? That was hard.

Oh, okay.

Did you like it, though?

Okay.

Let's see.

Okay.

I can feel how tense you are right now. Yeah.

I'm sorry.

Why don't you try to relax?

Breathe deep.

I want you to imagine this is Brad's tongue.

Yeah.

How was that?

How was that for you?

Well, I'm not the one in therapy.

You're the one trying to overcome these issues.

I'm totally comfortable where I'm at. I mean, yeah, you're sitting on the

ground.

Well, it's because I know I have a cleaning crew that comes in and does a

good job, so I feel comfortable.

Okay. We're going to get you feeling comfortable, too. I'm still going to

the couch. Now the couch is clean.

Yeah.

You looked at my shoe.

Yeah. You're still alive.

You're still alive. Yeah.

Sucked on your toes.

Still breathing.

Still breathing.

Couldn't have been too many germs.

Okay.

Okay. All right.

Nice and slow.

Yes.

So how was that?

Not bad?

It wasn't that bad.

No good? So one of the areas that I've had success in with other patients is

helping them to achieve an orgasm.

So it's just a major part of you that you're missing out on. And I think that

we could get you to achieve an orgasm today, before you left the office, Sure.

think that would put you in the right mindset.

It would give you a goal, something to work towards. Okay.

A reward.

Once you experience it, you'll understand what you've been missing.

Okay. And I think that will help you with this relationship issue with you

Brad. And you can make me achieve an orgasm.

I've had success. Success before?

Okay. So is that something you're interested in doing?

Yeah. Okay, great. Yeah.

Okay. Okay, so you've had success before?

Many times.

What's the treatment?

Like a medication or do you have like a tool or like an instrument?

Oh, no, no, no.

It's just me.

Just me and my tongue for now. Your tongue?

My tongue, yeah.

Okay.

Yeah. Should you maybe go brush your teeth?

I mean, I'm just sucking on your toes. I'm licking the bottom of your shoes.

Do you use a tongue scraper when you brush?

Yeah. You do? Of course.

Okay. Of course.

Okay. This is all part of the process to make you feel comfortable. Okay.

Yes. I want you to... Yes.

Again, just imagine I'm Brad. Oh, yes. Brad.

Relax.

Get your boots on. Okay.

Oh my.

You feel okay?

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, I think I like it.

I'm going to have you turn around right here.

Was that it? Was that the orgasm? No, no, no. We're not there yet.

You didn't come yet, did you?

I mean, I don't think so.

Okay. Well, we're going to have you get right down here and put your ass in

here. Yeah.

Like this.

Oh, my.

Oh, right there. I really like it right there.

Oh.

Oh, wow.

Oh,

it makes my knees shake.

How's that feel?

A little different?

I've never felt... That's nice.

Oh, my.

I'd say definitely orgasm.

I'm touching my juices.

All right.

Never done that.

That's pretty good, huh?

That was really nice. I felt like my whole body just like...

Have you ever tried masturbating on your own?

Have you ever tried touching your own vagina?

No.

How do you deal with your monthly cycle?

Well, I just wear gloves.

You wear gloves?

Yeah, I don't get the blood on me. You don't want the blood on me?

Okay. But you know what we're going to do right now?

I'm going to have you sit up in this chair.

Sit up?

Like how I was? Yeah, just nice and comfortable.

Just like normal.

Okay.

I want you to close your eyes.

Okay.

You're imagining them, Brad, right?

Eyes closed.

Yep.

You're imagining them, Brad, right? Okay.

Do you feel how hard that is?

Whoa. Yeah.

Oh, my gosh.

Oh, my God.

See?

Those are my juices. I'm pre -coming.

Whoa. Just for you.

Don't you imagine this is Bradcock, okay? So hard.

I was excited to see you. I didn't expect it to feel so strong.

Well, that's how you know if it likes you.

Yeah? Mm -hmm.

So if Brad's really strong like this... That really likes me.

If Brad's really strong like this, you'll know how he likes you, too. Just

that? Oh, that's amazing.

Mm.

Mm. Can you put your lips on?

I could try.

That was wonderful.

You're doing incredible.

It's making my mouth water.

Yeah? In a good way?

Mm -hmm.

That's it.

Oh,

my

God.

I'll take your other hand.

fully engaged.

Have you ever thought about doing this before?

No.

Do you like making strides? Do you like making gains?

Huge. Okay.

Huge progress.

Mm -hmm.

Oh, there you go.

Like that. Just like that. Okay. Oh, my goodness.

Yeah.

That's kind of exhilarating.

My God, I almost got lost in the big boobs.

I feel a little bit of pressure.

Okay. Okay.

Okay.

Okay.

Yes.

Whoa.

Whoa.

Oh.

Oh.

I feel you.

dummy is that you oh that's what it feels like

secretions, huh? Mm -hmm.

It's not that bad, right?

Mm -hmm.

Oh,

yeah.

All right.

Ready some more?

Yeah. All right.

Why don't you get nice and comfy?

Okay.

If I go faster.

Take all that cum.

And I want you to rub it all over you.

All of your breasts, all over your stomach.

Rub it all over.

Kind of like lotion.

Yeah.

I call this progress.

What do you think?

Yeah.

Huge. Tremendous.

You think Bradley will be okay with this? Bradley is going to be so excited.

I'm glad I can help.

Here you are.

Why don't you clean yourself off and get dressed.

And when you're done, you stop off at the receptionist at the front. And

schedule an appointment for next week.

And you can come back and we'll finish our therapy, okay?

Okay. Okay, great. I'll see you next week then.

Okay. All right.

Monday all right?

You know what? Check with the receptionist. I'll show him the

Thank you so much, doctor.

That was seriously amazing.

You're very welcome.