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To the Survivor All -Star Reunion, we are live in Madison Square Garden in New

York City, and we have all 18 All -Stars, whether they like it or not,

us. And obviously, there is a lot to cover. Let's start with what just

I want to ask you, Rob, did Amber earn this? Did she coattail it, or was she a

part of the decision -making?

A little bit of both.

She definitely helped with all the decisions. I mean, from day one, she was

there with me, no matter what.

No matter what we decided to do, she consulted. We both decided together as a

team. I give Amber all the credit in the world. She deserved 100 % to win this.

Amber, in the beginning, there was no romance. This was strategy. So why Rob?

What were the factors that made you think an alliance with him made sense?

Well, coming into this game, I actually couldn't stand him.

think he really liked me either. And I thought when he approached me for an

alliance, why not? Take a guy that nobody would expect me to align with

I think it was obvious among these guys that I didn't really even like him.

And I thought, you know what? Rob has a big mouth. He has a temper.

If I stay beside him, he can take all the bullets and people won't even forget

about me that I'm actually with him making these decisions also.

By the way, we all are noticing that ring, which we're going to get to later.

Rob, now that's the big thing is you had to be aware.

Everybody thought, all right, let's show The Rock since we're there.

Hold your hand still, Amber. Just hold tight.

That is beauty.

Wow.

Well, Rob, you did one thing right this season. Anyway.

But that's the big thing, I think, for people watching is if that's true, what

Amber said, were you aware that you were the bad cop the whole time or that

Amber's... has left enemies because you're taking all the bullets. I was,

definitely. And you know what? We kind of planned that in the beginning. I knew

that in the end, people were going to be gunning for me. And the whole time, in

order to keep our alliance tight, she would question me and say, you know,

what's going to happen, this or that?

We're making too many people mad.

And my whole thinking was, if we get to the final two, they're going to have to

vote for one of us.

And I was hoping that they would see that.

I was the one kind of taking those chances and taking the shots to try to

the decisions.

Rupert, why did you guys not vote out?

Let's get back to where you screwed up.

Time after time, you could have taken out Boss and Rob. At five, you could

taken out Amber.

Rob was their ticket to the final two. Why else would you not do this?

There was a lot of talk about trying to get Rob or Amber out.

There was talk between the two of us, Big Tom and I.

There was a lot of talk.

Nobody really stepped up. What was the talk between you two?

Well...

I talked to Big Tom about trying to go against Rob and Rob, and Big Tom stood

behind Rob.

Okay,

I was going to say, what we don't know is what he told you could have been him

playing you, still sticking up for Rob.

So why Amber and not Jenna? Was it the love affair? Because it didn't seem

like that might have been the right choice to make.

In the end, when it got down to three?

Yes. It was no question in my mind. She was with me from day one.

Game aside, I didn't think that I could beat either of them, to tell you the

truth. Going into the final three, I realized that I had pissed off just

everybody on the jury.

And I was hoping that, you know, I might be able to, you know, get a couple

votes. It was a lot closer than I actually thought it was.

I want to see who voted. Let's finish up with who voted for who. Who here voted

for Amber?

So, just to see, of the four of you, if it had been Jenna instead, would anybody

have changed their vote? Who would have still voted? You would have changed your

vote.

There you go.

So that would have been the difference.

No, Jenna, you wouldn't have won. Rob would have won.

The same people would have voted for Rob. I don't know. I think it all

also on the final vote. That's true. Next time.

He's not so eloquent in his speeches.

One thing I just want to get to is we all remember the big moment when Rob

and asked Lex to save Amber. And we don't need to see that tape again. We've

seen it over and over.

You asked him for a favor.

He did that. He and Kathy talked and they did that. Then when time came back

payback, as Lex felt, it wasn't there.

Lex, the question to you is, you had done that same thing.

To Colby, Ethan, and Jerry.

Fair enough, right?

You had said this is business and not friendship over and over. So what's the

difference here? The difference was that no deal was ever struck between Colby,

Ethan, and I. We didn't make alliances.

We didn't make a deal.

There were no promises made.

There can only be one winner and survivor.

We didn't make any deals. And frankly, they didn't work into my plan.

Now, how is that hatch? You're shaking your hand. So how is that?

That's the point.

How is that different than from what Rob did to you? It isn't.

It's clearly not different. Yes, it is. Oh, it is. Hold on, Richard. I saw Kathy

shaking her head when he said that. Because it didn't work into his plan

mean that it isn't part of the game. I love these guys.

But it's a game.

It's a game.

And his speech at the end about it being more than that is not true. When you're

playing chess, you don't give away another thing because they're your

play to win. And this game, the rules are a little different, and you should

have known that going in. This ain't chess, Rich.

To be perfectly frank, it's a more complicated game.

But I think Lex makes a good point about this isn't chess.

We're going to take a break. We're going to come back. But that's what I want to

talk about.

It isn't poker, but it's the same philosophy except you're dealing with

relationships and it's much more personal. We'll take a quick break.

back and get back to this.

Welcome back to the All -Star Reunion Show.

Before the break, we were talking about how complicated this game is because you

are dealing with relationships. If it's poker and you bluff somebody, nobody

gets mad.

But in this game, bad analogy maybe, but the cards are relationships.

Because bluffing is part of this game, no doubt. Kathy, one of the things that

nobody brought up is that in this episode between Lex and Boston Rob, you

said... It's better than to have the wrath of Boston Rob. There had to be a

little strategy in this move is what I'm trying to get at. What, to bring Amber

over? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I mean, we were talking.

Obviously, it wasn't a decision that was made in 30 seconds.

And we were thinking that if we brought Amber over, there were more options.

So hopefully the Rob father might like the favor. Also, the friend who asked.

And I have to tell you, I know Rob, and he asked for that favor outside the

game. And someday, someday, it might be 10 years from now, but I think he's

going to admit it.

So, you know, I think there were several reasons why we brought over Amber, not

just one.

Big Tom, hang on, Hatch.

Yeah, you know what, Hatch? Calm down.

Even in her answer, Deb. No. In her answer just now, she agrees with me.

sitting there saying there were other reasons that we brought her over. So if

didn't have the other reasons, screw Boston Robin's request as a friend.

getting rid of Amber.

It's a game. There are a lot of arguments. You can also argue that.

A friend doesn't ask a friend for a favor and hoping to get something back.

That's why this game is complicated, because everybody draws their line in so

many different places.

Big Tom, what happened between you and Boston Rob? This is a he said, she said.

Settle it.

There was a lot of stuff at Tribal where Rob said to you, you know what I'm

talking about, and you said, I don't know what you're talking about.

I still don't know what he's talking about. Rob, what is he talking about?

I'll do it right here, right now. Did you have an alliance with Lex before the

game even started?

Did I have an alliance? Did you have an alliance with Lex before this game even

started? I had an alliance with Rob and Amber. Okay, that wasn't the question,

though. That wasn't the question. Did you have an alliance with Lex before the

game had even started?

Yes or no?

Well, don't yes or no me.

I just want to tell you this.

Big Tom played a game with Amber and Rob.

Rupert will tell you right here, I never wavered.

Never. All the lies that were said about this, that.

Everybody, there's 18 of us here. I don't know how many calls I got. I don't

know how many calls you got. But I do know on the very first day I give a

handshake deal with you and you.

It's the last food of the game, and I just said, Rob, I'm going to stick with

it. And you said so. And even an hour before tribal council, you made me shake

again.

Let me ask you. Do you think I'm going to take a chance? Of course I'll make

shake again.

Of course I will. It's a game, Tom. Let me ask you something. It's a game,

Jerry. I've got to say something, okay?

This whole thing is making me...

about entertainment.

This entertainment is coming at its price.

What it has cost us?

Our friendships, our feelings, our pain, our suffering.

Where's your take on this? Because you were very well liked in the first

season, and you were a quick target in this one, and you were betrayed. You

didn't see it coming.

Bitter? Is that the way the game's played? Where do you draw your line?

Well, I didn't do very well. And I've tried both times to play this game with

much integrity as I live my life. But I will tell you this.

It is one thing to know how to play this game well.

It is something totally different to be successful at it.

These two over here were successful at playing this game.

Rudy, give me a take on this whole.

double crossing that went on. I'm glad I wasn't part of it.

And if I was, I mean, if I stayed in, I think I would have done something which

maybe I would have been sorry for.

Under the right situation, I might have betrayed.

I might have backstabbed. Is that what I read in there? No, no, no. I ain't

going to betray.

What were you saying that you might have done something you'd be sorry for? I'm

talking about being around people that are betraying each other. I might have

done something.

Sheehan, what... The complications of this game, obviously...

all draw a different line. And you made a comment at the final tribal council,

those in glass houses shouldn't throw stone.

That's right.

I think it's a game, Jeff. I think it is a game. And I'm sorry, Big Tom, you

know, we talked about voting Boston and Rob out. We did. And I don't know if you

were lying to me. I don't know. But we did. We talked about it. To be fair, we

did talk about that possibility, as I did with almost everyone remaining in

game in the final few days that I was there.

So I

You know, if that means that the alliances were broken, I don't want to

for you. But it's a game. Ultimately, I feel like everyone has betrayed someone

in this game. Quick yes or no.

Status of relationships.

Big Tom, Boston, Rob.

Any chance of reconciliation with you guys?

I have no trouble with Rob during the game.

As far as, you know, if he wants to be a lion still in cheek, let him be. Okay.

When he talked about my family, my son, I just want to tell you,

I did not do well in the game. I didn't win a vehicle.

I didn't win much money.

But what I have got is a family.

And that's something he ain't got.

on this, but it's worth talking about because that's what this game is about.

I signed on for the game.

Understood.

But Bo became a part of the game, so he's in the game. He became a part of

game. He competed in the challenge, so he's in the game for that moment. Here's

what I want to know. Is there any part of what was going on between Boston Rob

and you in terms of the names you guys were calling each other that was in good

fun, or was that really purely mean -spirited as far as you're concerned?

As far as I'm concerned, it was mean spirit, but I hope it wasn't. I hope

Ross and Rob can tell you. That's crap, in my opinion, all right, because I have

a different side of this story.

From day one, Tom, you called me pony out there. How many other people out

can attest to that? And you used it in a derogatory way.

You said, you're my pony, and I'm riding you all the way to the end every day.

And you know what?

I know how you are, and I never really took it to heart, and I joked around

you, and I called you dumbass.

And you know what?

One way or the other, it was kind of like a term of endearment. And I'll tell

you something.

No, no. No, no, no, no.

I'm being completely serious.

And I'll tell you something, Tom.

If I offended Bo or if I offended your family, then I am truly sorry.

However, I do not apologize for the way I played this game. But if I did your

family wrong, then I apologize and I'm sorry.

For that, I apologize.

Let me tell you this.

The way you played the game is fine.

But I want to say, wait a minute.

Give me a second.

I just want to say, Rob, it takes a big man to say when he's wrong.

And I hope you're saying you're wrong with my pledge.

And I also want to know that I have it straight up.

All right. We have to break.

When we come back, we're going to find out about the Rockets.

To be able to spend 39 days now with a person who always makes you happy,

always makes you feel completely safe in any situation, always makes you feel

important and proud of yourself, is just amazing.

Welcome back to Survivor All -Star Reunion Show. A couple of things.

Tease, this big reveal, it's still coming. But more importantly, if there

any question about the authenticity of this show and the feelings that people

have, if you can give us a big shot of all 18, we are now down to 17, because

Jerry left during the break.

Well, that's why she left.

She made a comment, and she got a very large response from the audience, and

immediately left. Jeff, listen, it's a tough thing. You know, sometimes...

When we're playing the game, people think of us as characters, and unless

have a really, really tough skin like me, it can get to you. And Sherry's a

great girl. You know, she's a super person.

She was just a little upset.

You know, it's tough. 5 ,000 people.

It's tough. Yeah. And, you know, Sherry brought into this game with her the

feeling people had from the second season, which made her an all -star. She

a great character.

It's easy to forget she's a real person. Okay.

Sadly, we have to keep moving in this show because there's a lot to get to.

I wish Sherry hadn't left, but she knows we still care about her and like her.

So let's keep going.

I got to ask you guys because the odd thing is there was all this speculation

that people kept coming up to me saying, the big surprise, I know what it is.

These guys are going to get married. And I said, no, it's not. It's something

that has to do with you guys.

You didn't. You looked like you almost knew. Did you know?

I didn't necessarily know.

It's something we've talked about.

Wait, did you go to her and say, I'm going to ask you to marry him? She had

idea that I was going to do it live on the show tonight.

I went and talked to her mom and her dad this morning at 8 o 'clock this morning

in their hotel room. Give us a shot of mom and dad in the second row there.

There's Cheryl and Valentine.

Hey, guys, give me a thumbs up if this is all good.

Give me a thumbs up. Is this an okay thing?

And right in front of him, there's Robert and Linda.

Mr. Mariano, how do you feel? You got a nice daughter -in -law coming here.

Fantastic. All right.

At any point in the game, did you two suspect that the other might be playing

you?

Yeah.

Well, when did it become okay, so we've covered that initially this was strategy

for you amber When did it change was there a defining moment when you looked

him and said wow, you know I think I've got feelings for this guy Yeah,

there was definitely a defining moment like I've said again and again in the

beginning was a strategy I knew I was gonna flirt with them. I was gonna flirt

with everybody out there to get me to the end but

The whole shelter building thing came. It started looking pretty hot.

It became more easier, you know, easier to flirt with them. But I didn't really

realize there were feelings there until we got separated.

And I was on the Shapira still, and he got sent to Mogamogo. And I realized,

wow, I actually miss him. There really is something there.

And that's when it got real. I'm still reeling from the fact that you guys just

got engaged. You really did get engaged.

Rob, it seemed to me, I thought you were smitten with Amber pretty early on. I

was thinking you were into it early.

Oh, definitely.

I mean, look at her.

Just the initial attraction alone, the physical attraction, was enough to drive

anybody crazy.

But it's funny, she said earlier that she really didn't care for me when we

first went out there.

I'll tell you the truth, when I first went out there, I thought she was a

snob. But, you know, this game, it does funny things to you. And you see people

at their lowest low and their highest high.

And you see them at their worst and at their best. And I saw something in Amber

that I've never seen in anybody else before in my entire life. Amber.

What you see in Boston Rob that a lot of people are at home going, I don't get

that.

You know what? Nobody has ever made me feel as secure as he makes me feel. And

I just, it's an amazing feeling. He made me feel secure out there and he makes

me feel secure today.

In everything, in my life, in every decision that I've ever made, in

that I do, I feel secure. No, I know that I have one person behind me no

what. And I love that. And that's why I love him. And he's just wonderful.

We're all very happy for you guys that at least something good came out of

When we come back, one survivor is going to award another survivor a new car.

The Chevy Equinox. It's a cool ride. Plus some great updates.

We'll find out what these guys have been up to. Look at this. Canton,

Massachusetts. This is Aunt Mary Lisa and Uncle Dennis.

Hosting a party for Boston Rob, all his friends down in Boston. Be right back.

I've worried myself to death.

I can't save everybody.

I've worried myself to death.

I can't save everybody.

See you later.

That is not the big twist. That is still to come.

But we are going to do that. I just want to go through and get some quick

updates from people. Jenna, and we've had to make a lot of hard turns tonight.

One of the most tragic things that has happened in eight seasons of Survivor

happened to you this season when you lost your mom.

How is the rest of the family doing now?

They're okay.

I mean, I've got a good family. I've got a good group of friends, including a

lot of people here. So she's still here. She's just here now instead of...

In the audience like she was last year.

And there is some good news in your life.

There's always good news.

This guy in front of you.

I guess.

This is another survivor relationship.

Jenna and Ethan.

We survived. We all star a little bit. We were friends, but yeah.

There's a lot more to our relationship than just Survivor.

Survivor is just another thing on our resume.

Our relationship has a lot more substance.

Sue Hawk.

I get what you're saying. Sue Hawk, stand up. Oh, yeah. Look at this new Sue

Hawk.

You have a lot of work done.

Tell us.

Extra TV was kind enough to come to me and ask me if I wanted extreme makeover

for their new show, Mirror Mirror. So what else did you do? And I went all

it. Oh, we'd be here forever.

But keep an eye on that.

We'll update you. That's coming up. Chef?

Eyes? Oh, yeah.

Lipo? Yeah.

Hair? Oh, my God.

Have you been checking into it?

There's a lot. Well, you look fantastic.

And then, yeah, so that's not coming up.

Talking about relationships.

Yeah.

Monday is my 17th anniversary with my wife. Congratulations.

Speaking of which, Rupert, I think one of the reasons people like you, and

are probably many, but is the relationship that we saw with your wife,

You did back -to -back survivors.

Did this hurt the relationship at all or did it strengthen it?

That was very hard being away from my wife so long.

Right there, God, I did not want to let her go. I wanted her to stay.

Still strong.

I just want to say that is the most beautiful woman out there.

And I am the luckiest man in the world to have such a wonderful wife.

And right next to you, if I can believe what I've read.

Jenna Lewis, did you get married this weekend, this past weekend?

I did. I did get married last weekend.

This is the nuttiest reunion show ever.

Unfortunately, I didn't get to do it on national TV, but, you know.

Tina's in shock. I don't think a lot of you guys knew, did you?

Word was spreading.

Gee, website.

Well, congratulations.

Thank you. And you look fantastic.

Thank you. I haven't had any work.

And finally, there is one last update that I heard about, which is even

Hatch found love thanks to Survivor.

After you were voted off, we take the people who've been voted off and put

somewhere on a cruise or on a journey or something so we can keep them out of

trouble. And you actually met somebody. They sent me to Argentina. I walked into

the hotel. He was behind the desk. We haven't been apart since.

Nothing for everybody on this show.

Okay, here's the deal. Because for the first time ever, up until this season,

anybody who had won a car had never won the game.

Well, Rob won the car.

Arguably, Amber didn't win a car. She was rewarded with a car.

But nonetheless, you both have cars.

So Chevy wanted to do something different. Amber, because you're the

you're going to give, there's a little shot of it there, a Chevy Equinox. It's

an all -sport SUV.

Very nice ride.

You're going to give this to one of these other 16. You cannot give it to

because he already has one.

I feel like there's like 10 seconds right now.

You're giving this car away.

And they're consulting just like in the show.

All right, Amber.

Who's getting the car? Who's getting the SUV?

She -Anne. She -Anne.

Why She -Anne?

Congratulations.

All right, sit down.

Amber, quickly, why She -Anne?

She -Anne was the deciding vote. She gave me the million bucks.

So you're paying back She -Anne for her vote for you. Yeah, she was that swing

vote. All right.

We've been teasing you with it night after night and all night tonight. The

final Survivor All -Star twist is next. I promise.

Be right back.

All right.

We've been teasing you with this for a long time, and we're going to get to

this. to this surprise.

I just want to say one thing. This is obviously an emotional season, an

emotional final tribal, an emotional night.

We've had friendships that hopefully will heal.

Kathy said it in tribal, you know, she believes in this. Maybe you do, maybe

don't. You guys shook hands. We have a couple that's been engaged.

Congratulations, by the way.

And Jerry, we hope, is doing all right. So thank you guys for... I'm not being

light. I know I'm rushing through this, but...

These are real people, and we get that. So thanks for a really good season of

Survivor.

So now to reward you guys.

All right, audience, you've been there with us for eight seasons. You've

over 120 tribal councils, and you have never participated in a single one.

You've never had a vote.

Well, now you do.

And it is a very valuable vote indeed.

Here's the deal.

CBS is putting up a second.

million dollar prize.

And this time, the audience is going to decide who gets the money. It is going

to be awarded to one of these 18 all -stars.

And you guys are the jury.

It's not happening tonight.

You can vote for any one of the all -stars. You can vote for any reason you

think appropriate. And here's how you do it. You vote now on your wireless phone

by text messaging the name of the survivor all -star. You thought it was

to happen tonight?

That you want to win.

You dial 26161 or you can log on to CBS .com.

Text voting is open to Singular and most other wireless carrier customers.

The polls will be open until midnight on Wednesday. Then on this Thursday, we're

back. It's another live show in New York City, and we're going to give the

million -dollar prize to one of the 18 here. So you have quite a few days to

vote.

There are two ways to vote.

Text messaging the name of the Survivor All -Star you want to win to 26161.

26161, or you can log on to CBS .com.

By the way, these guys are all getting excited, and Jenna's talking like

After the show, everybody here will get a chance to make their case on video.

Audience can go to CBS .com starting tomorrow morning. You can hear their

decide who you want to vote for.

So it's next Thursday night. It is your show. Your vote will make one of these

guys a millionaire. We will also announce where Survivor's going next.

By the way, tonight, if you want to own a piece of Survivor All -Stars, go to

ebay .com. You can bid on everything from this season, all kinds of props.

And that benefits our good friends, the Elizabeth Glazer Pediatric AIDS

Foundation. And finally, if we didn't have enough to get through on this, if

want to be on this show, we're casting for Survivor 10 at cbs .com. And

morning, we will give Amber a check for a million dollars on the early show.

Thank you for being with us.

Good night.