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I don't know. I just
like coming-of-age stories.
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There's something about them.
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Not...
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hero versus villain.
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Maybe it's the trans
part of me that feels like
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life is a coming-of-age story.
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I'm not the person
that people think I am.
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I just know that.
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Hold on.
I've got to take this call.
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I've got to take this call.
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Hello.
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Hello?
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Hello?
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Yes, it is.
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I do.
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Oh, my God.
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Oh, my God!
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What did he commute it to?
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Oh.
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Oh, I can't tell you...
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I can't tell you how happy I am.
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Thank you so much. How do I...
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He's gonna announce it
in a couple of minutes?
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And how do we tell her?
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Vince!
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I'm sorry to interrupt you.
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I just got a call
from the President's counsel.
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It's commuted plus 120 days.
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- Are you serious?
- Yeah, the...
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Let's do it out here.
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The President's counsel
just called me.
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He's gonna announce it
in a couple of minutes.
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I'm pretty speechless.
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I'm gonna start crying.
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Holy shit!
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Fucking shit.
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It's just...
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I just... I just...
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I can't even fucking...
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It's crazy.
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Jesus fucking Christ.
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First of all... let's be clear,
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Chelsea Manning has served
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a tough prison sentence.
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The sentence that she received
was disproportionate
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relative to what other leakers
had received.
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She took responsibility
for her crime.
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It made sense to commute,
and not pardon, her sentence.
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- Nancy just got the order...
- I just got it.
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With the Barack Obama signature.
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- Oh, my God!
- So that is in possession.
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Oh, God.
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- This is a lot to process.
- Yeah, it is.
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- These types of huge changes.
- Yeah, yeah.
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So...
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You know, we're here, Chelsea.
We're thrilled for you.
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But it doesn't mean
it's all just simple.
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An inmate
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at a military
correctional complex...
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Fort Leavenworth, Kansas.
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This call is from
a correction facility
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and is subject to monitoring
and recording.
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This is a prepaid call from...
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Manning.
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Hey. So, you're on today's
New York Times.
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And your story is
upper right-hand corner, baby.
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Yay!
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He had to be a human being
for this to work.
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We didn't know
if he was or not, right?
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I didn't know.
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Yeah?
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I got the Elle magazine.
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Hold on.
I'm running off to get it.
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Where did that thing go?
Oh, here it is.
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I got the Elle.
They didn't have Marie Claire.
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But it's gonna come in tomorrow.
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Yes. And bow...
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And a bow.
Bows on the shoulders.
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Yes?
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Six women.
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- Far left. A little suit.
- Yeah.
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Yeah. That's cute.
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- Vincent?
- Yes, ma'am.
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Commander, sir. I'm gonna be
there to make sure she's safe.
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- That's great.
- You know, we did her clemency.
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We're her clemency lawyers.
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We're gonna make sure
this clemency happens.
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She's really worried
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that she's gonna
do something stupid.
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What does that mean?
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Well, what she kept saying was,
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"I might run away. You guys
should be aware of that."
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And I said, "You're not..."
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Once you're with us,
you won't be able to run away."
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I don't think people realize
how traumatic
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getting out of jail is.
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Imagine going from
being in the military
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- to being incarcerated.
- I know.
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Because people who are
in the military and get out
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- have difficulty transitioning.
- That's right.
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She needs to go figure out
her life.
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Having been in the military,
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I can't imagine
making a decision like that.
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I just can't.
No chance I would've done that.
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It takes a rare
historical person
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who is willing to sacrifice
personal freedom
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and all the privileges of life,
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doing what he or she thinks
is the right thing to do.
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You have to have a little bit
of a sense of self-importance
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about yourself...
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a bit of ignorance...
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a little bit of
a sense of optimism.
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Mostly, they're just people
who, deep down,
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feel as though
there's some problem
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or something's really wrong.
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Yeah.
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I'm particularly bitter
that a Commander in Chief,
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in a time of war,
would pardon a traitor.
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Republican
House Speaker Paul Ryan
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released a statement saying,
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"Chelsea Manning's treachery
put American lives at risk."
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This young man
or woman, or whatever,
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should have been hung.
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I don't think it's right.
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She should serve her time.
35 years.
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100 years ago,
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they'd have just taken him out
and shot him.
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The debate about
how much harm was caused,
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or wasn't,
by her actions, is ongoing.
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National security officials
will tell you
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Manning gravely harmed
national security.
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So far as
actually killing someone,
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there's absolutely no credible
allegation of that happening.
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And another factor,
as you alluded to,
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seems to be the stress for
Manning's gender transition.
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Chelsea Manning
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attempted to commit suicide
twice last year.
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Is it clear that
the gender transition concern
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was part of this, that she'd
been going through...?
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It seems to be.
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- Another day.
- Hey.
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Another day in the woods.
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God,
it's such a beautiful sight.
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I wasn't handling it
very well initially.
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- You...
- Aargh.
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We were in an actually
incredibly stressful situation
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where I thought
I was gonna vomit.
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- Um, so...
- You wanted to vomit, too?
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Yeah. I really did.
I was, like, "Oh",
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I'm gonna be super embarrassed
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"if I throw up in front of
these security guys."
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- We're still trying to adjust.
- Yeah.
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To find a soft landing.
So, I think, today,
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just kind of...
vegging out a little bit
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and, like, you know,
like, learning.
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Learning how to...
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I mean, for me,
learning how to...
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Yeah.
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Be again.
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Yeah, fuck,
I mean, you're, like...
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Fuck.
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- It's still sort of amazing.
- Yeah.
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And unimaginable,
like, this is...
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this is where you are
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on May 17, 2017.
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- Yeah.
- And not 2045.
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- How the fuck did I get here?
- Yeah.
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You ever find yourself
asking yourself that?
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- Yeah. Yeah, I do.
- "How did I get here?"
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Yeah.
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It just feels so natural
for me to do whatever I want...
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- Yeah. Yeah.
- In nature.
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You get past this idea
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of, like,
"Oh, a miracle might happen."
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I mean, I was in prison
for the rest of my life.
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There was a lot of
people that...
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didn't think
it was worth the effort,
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didn't think Obama
would consider it,
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it was never gonna happen.
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It was a shot in the dark.
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I am not a make-up artist,
by any means.
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I had to learn in prison,
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making shit up as I went along.
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I'm sure there's a bazillion
tutorials on YouTube.
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There's a disproportionate
number
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of trans women in the military.
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You know? Like something...
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Something about, like,
our twenties,
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and I was, like, running away
from, you know...
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this... this weird problem
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that, like, we're cross-dressing
and stuff.
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Like, I was trying to,
like, man up and...
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I... I think
I'm not alone in that.
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There's a lot of
social pressure,
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especially for people
in, like, the South
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and people in the Southwest,
and the West.
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Um...
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Yeah, I think there's
a pressure to... conform,
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and what better
conformity environment
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than the military?
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So...
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I saw it as kind of like
going cold turkey from, like...
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a drug addiction or something,
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or, like, trying to quit
cigarettes or something.
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But, obviously, you can't stop
being who you are.
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So, that was always...
never gonna happen.
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And this is a fantastic
shade of lipstick.
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I could hear the river from...
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prison, on a non-windy day.
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Because there was
the Missouri River...
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right outside the uh...
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right outside the prison itself.
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Through the tree...
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If you go beyond
the treeline of the prison,
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there's the river... um...
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And... so, but...
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I haven't heard
a stream like this.
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This is just... It's nice.
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It's nice to have a stream.
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It's nice to have leaves,
you know?
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What story?
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Uh... That's a good question.
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I grew up in a small
TOWN: Crescent, Oklahoma.
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I had a... complicated
relationship with my father.
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You know, like, he would just...
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take his anger out,
from being...
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angry at work, and just...
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My mother,
she would drink pretty heavily.
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My father drank very heavily.
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And they finally split up
when I was 13.
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My father had a new wife.
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She didn't like the fact
that I even existed.
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She saw that, you know,
I was dating boys and...
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eventually she had me
removed from the house...
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and I was homeless.
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All Americans know that
the stakes in Iraq are enormous.
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On television every night,
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you'd see images
of the Iraq surge.
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It was chaos.
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I am saying we must
significantly increase...
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That realization
that I was on thin ice
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and that I didn't know
who I was,
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and that I needed meaning.
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I understand the consequence
of committing people into war.
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So, I enlisted in the Army.
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I did it kind of on a whim.
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They needed people,
I signed the paperwork.
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And a few days later,
I was in basic training.
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Oh, shit!
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Where the fuck
did you come from?
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Shit.
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Yep.
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What's up?
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Lisa just says, "Great photo."
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You know,
I'm just making sure...
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Disconcerting amount
of boobage there.
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Like, my eye is drawn to it,
so I'm just, like...
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super aware of the fact
259
00:21:53,250 --> 00:21:55,541
that dresses expose
a lot more skin
260
00:21:55,542 --> 00:21:57,417
and it's uh...
261
00:22:00,583 --> 00:22:03,165
I don't know if my body
movements are trained yet
262
00:22:03,166 --> 00:22:06,040
for this kind of thing.
263
00:22:06,041 --> 00:22:08,499
You're moving around a lot
and you're not used to it.
264
00:22:08,500 --> 00:22:11,165
There's always the possibility
of, "Oop, there you go."
265
00:22:11,166 --> 00:22:12,583
The whole world could see.
266
00:22:14,041 --> 00:22:16,541
And I had that in prison, too.
267
00:22:16,542 --> 00:22:19,374
You know, I was definitely
scrutinized by...
268
00:22:19,375 --> 00:22:21,791
prison staff, you know...
269
00:22:21,792 --> 00:22:25,207
inmates, visitors, you know?
270
00:22:25,208 --> 00:22:28,624
Because even though I wore
a loose-fitting uniform,
271
00:22:28,625 --> 00:22:31,207
you could tell...
you know, they could tell.
272
00:22:31,208 --> 00:22:33,666
And they...
I could sense the judgment.
273
00:22:33,667 --> 00:22:36,040
Guards would walk in
on me sometimes
274
00:22:36,041 --> 00:22:39,457
while I'm doing... You know,
while I was changing my shirt
275
00:22:39,458 --> 00:22:43,374
or, like, taking my bra off
or putting it on, or whatever.
276
00:22:43,375 --> 00:22:46,374
So, you know, stuff happened
and people would go...
277
00:22:46,375 --> 00:22:50,416
And then there are
strip searches, so...
278
00:22:50,417 --> 00:22:53,542
Their reactions
could sometimes be...
279
00:22:54,125 --> 00:22:56,041
you know...
280
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complicated.
281
00:22:58,750 --> 00:23:00,417
Human.
282
00:23:13,834 --> 00:23:17,417
I remember it was
a really hot and muggy day.
283
00:23:21,792 --> 00:23:25,040
The lawyers advised
against coming out
284
00:23:25,041 --> 00:23:26,874
in the middle of
a court martial.
285
00:23:26,875 --> 00:23:29,541
They thought it would be
misinterpreted
286
00:23:29,542 --> 00:23:32,250
as some kind of stunt
or something.
287
00:23:36,166 --> 00:23:39,124
But I came to the conclusion
that I needed to just
288
00:23:39,125 --> 00:23:40,792
come out publicly.
289
00:23:48,125 --> 00:23:51,040
As I transition into
this next phase of my life,
290
00:23:51,041 --> 00:23:53,290
I want everyone
to know the real me.
291
00:23:53,291 --> 00:23:55,375
I am Chelsea Manning.
I am a female.
292
00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:58,582
I'm confused, Bill.
293
00:23:58,583 --> 00:24:00,874
I don't care if you call him
a he or a she.
294
00:24:00,875 --> 00:24:03,458
He's a traitor. She's a traitor.
295
00:24:04,291 --> 00:24:06,708
You had these rumors.
296
00:24:06,709 --> 00:24:10,165
"What does it mean
that Manning is really a woman
297
00:24:10,166 --> 00:24:11,708
or is claiming to be a woman?"
298
00:24:11,709 --> 00:24:14,959
"Did she leak the documents
because she's transgender?"
299
00:25:14,709 --> 00:25:17,207
This is late January, 2010.
300
00:25:17,208 --> 00:25:21,208
I came back from Iraq, on leave.
301
00:25:22,500 --> 00:25:24,417
And I came to an empty house.
302
00:25:25,333 --> 00:25:27,709
It was... surreal.
303
00:25:36,208 --> 00:25:39,792
I had this sense of disconnect.
304
00:25:41,375 --> 00:25:43,165
People were living normal lives
305
00:25:43,166 --> 00:25:45,374
while we were killing
or being killed.
306
00:25:45,375 --> 00:25:47,499
Thank you
for calling the New York Times.
307
00:25:47,500 --> 00:25:49,374
For calling the Washington Post.
308
00:25:49,375 --> 00:25:51,249
News outlets, they didn't care.
309
00:25:51,250 --> 00:25:53,959
It wasn't newsworthy to them.
310
00:25:56,625 --> 00:25:58,332
The notion of the Iraq War
311
00:25:58,333 --> 00:26:00,000
has left the consciousness.
312
00:26:04,125 --> 00:26:07,583
I'm trying to do
something different.
313
00:26:17,917 --> 00:26:21,082
I have all these documents
and I have the data
314
00:26:21,083 --> 00:26:23,458
and I need to do
something with it.
315
00:26:54,458 --> 00:26:56,290
We have no reason to doubt
316
00:26:56,291 --> 00:26:58,708
the reliability
of these documents.
317
00:26:58,709 --> 00:27:02,040
It is up to a court to decide...
318
00:27:02,041 --> 00:27:05,791
clearly, whether something
is, in the end, a crime.
319
00:27:05,792 --> 00:27:08,124
That said, prima facie,
320
00:27:08,125 --> 00:27:10,124
there does appear to be
321
00:27:10,125 --> 00:27:12,332
evidence of war crimes
in this material.
322
00:27:25,583 --> 00:27:27,999
We also have one individual,
323
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,917
uh... appears to be wounded,
trying to crawl away.
324
00:27:40,166 --> 00:27:41,667
Come on, buddy.
325
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,000
All you got to do
is pick up a weapon.
326
00:27:53,542 --> 00:27:55,208
They're taking him!
327
00:27:56,291 --> 00:27:58,458
Bushmaster, Crazy Horse 1-8.
328
00:27:59,208 --> 00:28:01,207
Come on, let us shoot.
329
00:28:01,208 --> 00:28:03,332
This is Bushmaster 7. Go ahead.
330
00:28:03,333 --> 00:28:06,374
Roger, we have a black SUV,
uh, Bongo truck
331
00:28:06,375 --> 00:28:07,749
picking up the bodies.
332
00:28:07,750 --> 00:28:09,875
Request permission to engage.
333
00:28:11,417 --> 00:28:13,374
Bushmaster 7. Roger.
334
00:28:13,375 --> 00:28:15,708
This is Bushmaster 7.
Roger. Engage.
335
00:28:15,709 --> 00:28:18,207
1-8. Okay. Clear.
336
00:28:18,208 --> 00:28:20,542
Come on.
337
00:28:21,625 --> 00:28:23,959
Clear.
338
00:28:25,291 --> 00:28:27,457
- Clear.
- We're engaging.
339
00:28:30,458 --> 00:28:32,417
- Come around. Clear.
- Roger.
340
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,749
Hacker Adrian Lamo,
who turned him in,
341
00:29:11,750 --> 00:29:14,290
says that he contacted the Army
342
00:29:14,291 --> 00:29:17,624
after a series of very intense
email exchanges
343
00:29:17,625 --> 00:29:19,959
with the Army specialist
in late May.
344
00:29:21,375 --> 00:29:25,249
Adrian Lamo claims
that Manning was unhappy
345
00:29:25,250 --> 00:29:27,374
with some policies
in the military.
346
00:29:27,375 --> 00:29:29,874
He said that there was
an ideology problem,
347
00:29:29,875 --> 00:29:31,332
that he had leaked
other information
348
00:29:31,333 --> 00:29:33,375
to the website WikiLeaks.
349
00:29:41,333 --> 00:29:44,290
Now, among the charges,
of course, the most serious one
350
00:29:44,291 --> 00:29:47,666
for Private Bradley Manning,
that of aiding the enemy.
351
00:29:47,667 --> 00:29:49,624
In a way,
it's the sheer scale of it
352
00:29:49,625 --> 00:29:50,791
that's hurt America's image.
353
00:29:50,792 --> 00:29:53,791
That a vast volume
of sensitive documents
354
00:29:53,792 --> 00:29:56,624
was so easily available
to a private soldier
355
00:29:56,625 --> 00:29:58,000
with some hacking skills.
356
00:30:00,500 --> 00:30:03,499
The United States Of America
is on trial today.
357
00:30:03,500 --> 00:30:04,749
Let him go!
358
00:30:04,750 --> 00:30:06,749
Manning stood up
as an American soldier,
359
00:30:06,750 --> 00:30:08,708
put himself in harm's way,
360
00:30:08,709 --> 00:30:10,749
and he should be free.
361
00:30:35,333 --> 00:30:36,709
No, ma'am.
362
00:31:49,125 --> 00:31:51,624
You've been
invisible for so long...
363
00:31:51,625 --> 00:31:54,290
Yeah. People have already...
364
00:31:54,291 --> 00:31:56,709
formed their own opinions
of who you are.
365
00:31:57,834 --> 00:32:01,582
I feel pressure
to correct that and to, like,
366
00:32:01,583 --> 00:32:03,458
clear that up.
367
00:32:06,792 --> 00:32:09,000
I was an unknown before.
368
00:32:19,375 --> 00:32:21,375
It's a little bit nerve-racking.
369
00:32:25,834 --> 00:32:27,958
I'm not... I'm not ashamed
of anything.
370
00:32:27,959 --> 00:32:29,499
I'm not ashamed of being trans.
371
00:32:29,500 --> 00:32:30,958
I'm not ashamed
of what happened.
372
00:32:30,959 --> 00:32:33,708
Everything happened and, like...
373
00:32:33,709 --> 00:32:35,333
I'm okay with that.
374
00:32:36,500 --> 00:32:38,333
Yeah? And...
375
00:32:41,417 --> 00:32:44,416
The main thing that I had
to do was just let go...
376
00:32:44,417 --> 00:32:46,834
of other people's expectations.
377
00:32:47,750 --> 00:32:50,332
And that was tough.
378
00:32:50,333 --> 00:32:52,999
It was one of the hardest things
I've ever had to do
379
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:54,916
because I had built my life
380
00:32:54,917 --> 00:32:57,500
around other people's
expectations.
381
00:32:58,792 --> 00:33:01,542
And I'm not gonna
fucking do that any more.
382
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,583
It does feel a little
bit like a calm before a storm.
383
00:33:15,667 --> 00:33:18,166
We know how fragile she is.
384
00:33:20,500 --> 00:33:25,082
What I worry about
is that she'll be a big name
385
00:33:25,083 --> 00:33:28,874
and there'll be all this press
that'll happen,
386
00:33:28,875 --> 00:33:31,541
and then all of a sudden,
it'll be over
387
00:33:31,542 --> 00:33:35,291
and she'll just be
out there on her own.
388
00:33:37,583 --> 00:33:39,666
We make these in the wood shop,
389
00:33:39,667 --> 00:33:41,791
but we don't paint ours.
390
00:33:41,792 --> 00:33:43,083
We put oil on ours.
391
00:33:45,375 --> 00:33:47,792
We made Adirondack chairs
at the prison.
392
00:33:50,750 --> 00:33:52,458
Yeah.
393
00:33:54,583 --> 00:33:57,291
Oh, it'll be like that
for a few weeks, I'm sure.
394
00:34:05,250 --> 00:34:07,667
God, I missed trying to do this.
395
00:34:45,125 --> 00:34:47,582
I feel old.
396
00:34:47,583 --> 00:34:49,791
- Feel old?
- Yeah.
397
00:34:49,792 --> 00:34:52,124
I lost...
398
00:34:52,125 --> 00:34:54,375
I've lost seven years
of my life already.
399
00:34:55,166 --> 00:34:56,374
That's unfair.
400
00:34:56,375 --> 00:34:59,624
Last time
I walked down these streets,
401
00:34:59,625 --> 00:35:01,874
down the streets of this city,
402
00:35:01,875 --> 00:35:03,958
Lady Gaga had just become big
403
00:35:03,959 --> 00:35:06,500
and the Iraq War
was still going on.
404
00:35:10,291 --> 00:35:13,541
It just feels like I've been
through a time machine.
405
00:35:13,542 --> 00:35:14,875
Time warp.
406
00:35:23,458 --> 00:35:26,582
An inmate at a military
correctional complex...
407
00:35:26,583 --> 00:35:29,000
Fort Leavenworth, Kansas.
408
00:35:52,625 --> 00:35:54,333
Where do you think
he got that idea?
409
00:36:09,250 --> 00:36:11,290
All I was trying to get at
410
00:36:11,291 --> 00:36:14,624
was this whole idea
of personal responsibility
411
00:36:14,625 --> 00:36:18,207
that you seem to feel,
even though, of course,
412
00:36:18,208 --> 00:36:20,792
you... didn't have any...
413
00:36:22,041 --> 00:36:23,749
direct... Absolutely.
414
00:36:23,750 --> 00:36:25,625
You didn't pull the trigger.
415
00:37:56,208 --> 00:37:57,374
It's hard for me now,
416
00:37:57,375 --> 00:37:59,290
just because I know you
and love you
417
00:37:59,291 --> 00:38:01,374
and I hate the idea
of you being in prison.
418
00:38:01,375 --> 00:38:03,332
And so, for me,
it's easy to wonder
419
00:38:03,333 --> 00:38:04,959
if it was worth it.
420
00:38:18,917 --> 00:38:22,417
It was just me
and Lisa against the world.
421
00:38:23,792 --> 00:38:27,083
We actually hadn't met
before I went to prison.
422
00:38:28,333 --> 00:38:30,624
But she wrote to me, you know,
423
00:38:30,625 --> 00:38:33,500
this really sweet, kind,
thoughtful letter.
424
00:38:37,458 --> 00:38:40,834
It'll be the first time
I've ever seen her in person.
425
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:53,666
You know,
helping her get released,
426
00:38:53,667 --> 00:38:56,165
it really was
sort of like my life's work.
427
00:38:56,166 --> 00:38:57,667
It's really been...
428
00:38:58,834 --> 00:39:01,916
There was a point when we were
just trying to keep her alive.
429
00:39:10,875 --> 00:39:12,709
Oh, shit.
430
00:39:20,166 --> 00:39:22,041
Alright?
431
00:39:28,250 --> 00:39:30,499
You look fantastic.
432
00:39:30,500 --> 00:39:32,625
Thanks.
433
00:39:34,333 --> 00:39:36,874
- It's one thing that...
- Your pictures...
434
00:39:36,875 --> 00:39:39,416
Your pictures do you justice
but, I mean, like,
435
00:39:39,417 --> 00:39:40,834
in real life, wow.
436
00:39:43,291 --> 00:39:45,416
- Look at you.
- Look at you.
437
00:39:46,583 --> 00:39:49,290
How different do I look?
438
00:39:49,291 --> 00:39:52,165
If you do a side-by-side
comparison,
439
00:39:52,166 --> 00:39:53,750
you can tell, right?
440
00:39:55,041 --> 00:39:57,207
I don't know
if I would say that.
441
00:39:57,208 --> 00:39:58,416
Okay.
442
00:39:58,417 --> 00:40:00,457
You don't look anything
like your old picture.
443
00:40:00,458 --> 00:40:01,917
- No.
- Not even a little.
444
00:40:02,917 --> 00:40:04,999
And your cheekbones and stuff.
445
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,082
I mean, it's really...
It's amazing to me.
446
00:40:07,083 --> 00:40:09,416
I didn't realize that...
447
00:40:09,417 --> 00:40:13,207
that hormones changed that much
448
00:40:13,208 --> 00:40:16,457
of, like... bone structure?
449
00:40:16,458 --> 00:40:19,541
No, it doesn't change
the bone structure.
450
00:40:19,542 --> 00:40:22,124
Well, it changed...
It changed something.
451
00:40:22,125 --> 00:40:24,290
It changes how the skin, like...
452
00:40:24,291 --> 00:40:27,916
how the skin wraps around
the bones a little bit.
453
00:40:27,917 --> 00:40:30,166
Okay.
It's just so much different.
454
00:40:30,917 --> 00:40:32,791
- It's really different.
- Yeah.
455
00:40:32,792 --> 00:40:34,333
Yeah.
456
00:40:46,166 --> 00:40:48,125
Lisa was everything.
457
00:40:51,959 --> 00:40:53,500
She's family.
458
00:41:14,500 --> 00:41:16,541
Chelsea?
459
00:41:16,542 --> 00:41:18,333
Hello?
460
00:41:29,125 --> 00:41:30,917
Um...
461
00:41:45,375 --> 00:41:47,542
Shit.
462
00:41:51,291 --> 00:41:54,290
Even I didn't realize how much
you were hurting, Chelsea.
463
00:41:54,291 --> 00:41:56,290
Even I didn't know.
464
00:41:56,291 --> 00:41:58,750
You... You...
You weren't really telling me.
465
00:41:59,709 --> 00:42:02,208
And... And... I want you to...
466
00:42:07,542 --> 00:42:09,709
Very good at...?
467
00:42:22,208 --> 00:42:25,249
You know, she watched
the firework celebration
468
00:42:25,250 --> 00:42:27,582
from her window...
469
00:42:27,583 --> 00:42:30,082
and then she took
the shoestrings
470
00:42:30,083 --> 00:42:32,624
that were, you know,
on her boots,
471
00:42:32,625 --> 00:42:35,249
attached them to a vent
hanging from the ceiling,
472
00:42:35,250 --> 00:42:39,624
put a pillowcase
over her head...
473
00:42:39,625 --> 00:42:43,249
bound her hands and her legs,
474
00:42:43,250 --> 00:42:46,416
and then the next thing
that she remembers, actually,
475
00:42:46,417 --> 00:42:48,667
is being on the floor.
476
00:42:52,792 --> 00:42:55,000
She was unconscious...
477
00:42:56,125 --> 00:42:58,500
and it could have
very well worked.
478
00:43:07,542 --> 00:43:10,500
I wouldn't say
that I've ever seen Chelsea...
479
00:43:11,250 --> 00:43:13,124
be happy.
480
00:43:13,125 --> 00:43:16,582
I've seen her smile,
I've seen her laugh.
481
00:43:16,583 --> 00:43:19,916
I've seen her crack jokes.
482
00:43:19,917 --> 00:43:22,290
But, honestly, I don't know
that I've ever seen her
483
00:43:22,291 --> 00:43:24,791
be happy.
484
00:44:55,458 --> 00:44:57,750
When I was a teenager...
485
00:44:58,750 --> 00:45:00,624
I was completely helpless
486
00:45:00,625 --> 00:45:03,207
and I didn't have anybody
to protect me,
487
00:45:03,208 --> 00:45:06,457
and I didn't have anybody
to tell me that...
488
00:45:06,458 --> 00:45:08,709
it's okay for me to be who I am.
489
00:45:11,792 --> 00:45:15,000
I've built up
these defense mechanisms.
490
00:45:16,583 --> 00:45:19,458
I have these walls and...
491
00:45:21,917 --> 00:45:25,750
I had to go through hell
to get to that point.
492
00:45:33,625 --> 00:45:35,249
I can get through this.
493
00:45:35,250 --> 00:45:37,583
This is just a few weeks
of chaos.
494
00:45:43,709 --> 00:45:46,582
Like I said,
it'll be a one-hour interview.
495
00:45:46,583 --> 00:45:49,332
They'll pick us up here
at 10:30.
496
00:45:49,333 --> 00:45:51,374
- Yeah. We'll bring the outfit.
- Exactly.
497
00:45:51,375 --> 00:45:53,791
Bring the outfit, and there'll
be hair and make-up.
498
00:45:53,792 --> 00:45:55,916
- Cool.
- Yeah.
499
00:45:55,917 --> 00:45:58,624
The main things is...
500
00:45:58,625 --> 00:46:01,457
the decision-making process
501
00:46:01,458 --> 00:46:04,290
in choosing to
disclose the documents.
502
00:46:04,291 --> 00:46:08,249
So, let's say that
Juju asks you a question.
503
00:46:08,250 --> 00:46:10,916
Um...
504
00:46:10,917 --> 00:46:12,708
So, you'd looked at
the documents,
505
00:46:12,709 --> 00:46:14,457
and you made the judgment
506
00:46:14,458 --> 00:46:17,624
that they wouldn't harm
any individuals
507
00:46:17,625 --> 00:46:19,290
before you disclosed them?
508
00:46:19,291 --> 00:46:21,499
It's not possible to read
every single line
509
00:46:21,500 --> 00:46:22,791
of every single document.
510
00:46:22,792 --> 00:46:25,290
But I knew exactly
what was in these documents.
511
00:46:25,291 --> 00:46:27,332
I knew the specific types
of information
512
00:46:27,333 --> 00:46:28,666
in these documents.
513
00:46:28,667 --> 00:46:32,582
And I carefully considered it
and, no, I don't believe...
514
00:46:32,583 --> 00:46:34,708
I did not believe
that any harm would come
515
00:46:34,709 --> 00:46:36,667
from these documents.
516
00:46:38,959 --> 00:46:40,916
Some of these questions
are really hard,
517
00:46:40,917 --> 00:46:42,833
so practice helps a little bit
518
00:46:42,834 --> 00:46:45,958
in being able to navigate.
519
00:46:45,959 --> 00:46:47,833
I'm not somebody
who's going on TV
520
00:46:47,834 --> 00:46:49,582
for the sake of being on TV.
521
00:46:49,583 --> 00:46:53,333
I... I-I-I...
There is an underlying...
522
00:46:55,125 --> 00:46:58,582
We're in a moment of history,
where this stuff is important
523
00:46:58,583 --> 00:47:01,333
and I don't want to
screw it up for somebody else.
524
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:19,541
One of the things that's nice
525
00:47:19,542 --> 00:47:22,457
is, like, when you have
a historical figure like this,
526
00:47:22,458 --> 00:47:24,291
is there is
something that's um...
527
00:47:25,542 --> 00:47:28,165
that's quite powerful
about being so up close.
528
00:47:28,166 --> 00:47:30,791
But there's also something
very powerful about seeing
529
00:47:30,792 --> 00:47:33,040
her entire body,
like, head to toe.
530
00:47:33,041 --> 00:47:36,875
She's, like... the entire figure
is present on this cover.
531
00:47:37,709 --> 00:47:41,374
I love how she just totally...
532
00:47:41,375 --> 00:47:43,374
uh... seems at ease.
533
00:47:43,375 --> 00:47:45,040
I like this one
because it has...
534
00:47:45,041 --> 00:47:47,249
It feels to me enormous power,
535
00:47:47,250 --> 00:47:48,833
the kind of power
that she must have
536
00:47:48,834 --> 00:47:50,709
to be the person she is.
537
00:47:52,542 --> 00:47:55,249
There's something about
the atmosphere of that picture,
538
00:47:55,250 --> 00:47:58,082
like, there's a sense
of narrative to this one...
539
00:47:58,083 --> 00:47:59,624
Yeah.
540
00:47:59,625 --> 00:48:01,749
There's also, like,
some vague suggestion
541
00:48:01,750 --> 00:48:04,499
of, like, an interrogation,
or something like that,
542
00:48:04,500 --> 00:48:05,666
sitting in the chair,
543
00:48:05,667 --> 00:48:07,499
in a kind of, like,
stripped-down room.
544
00:48:07,500 --> 00:48:09,582
And for her first time,
sort of, sitting down
545
00:48:09,583 --> 00:48:12,291
and telling her story,
I think that works.
546
00:48:17,750 --> 00:48:20,082
Alright. You ready
to go on the record?
547
00:48:20,083 --> 00:48:22,916
About how many weeks
into the second deployment
548
00:48:22,917 --> 00:48:25,916
did you get in touch
with WikiLeaks?
549
00:48:25,917 --> 00:48:28,457
It was all one deployment,
but after, it was...
550
00:48:28,458 --> 00:48:31,416
It was uh...
It was during leave...
551
00:48:31,417 --> 00:48:33,749
It was during my leave that I...
552
00:48:33,750 --> 00:48:35,792
that I started using the site.
553
00:48:38,875 --> 00:48:40,874
It was never about being caught.
554
00:48:40,875 --> 00:48:44,166
I... wanted the information out.
555
00:48:44,792 --> 00:48:46,791
Uh...
556
00:48:46,792 --> 00:48:49,040
I was eventually going
to go public.
557
00:48:49,041 --> 00:48:50,958
- You were?
- Yes.
558
00:48:50,959 --> 00:48:53,125
I just didn't know
how to do that.
559
00:49:04,709 --> 00:49:09,624
Yes, I was worried that
being trans would be...
560
00:49:09,625 --> 00:49:11,542
would take over everything else.
561
00:49:14,875 --> 00:49:16,624
Right. I was worried it would...
562
00:49:16,625 --> 00:49:18,500
It would be used against me.
563
00:49:21,041 --> 00:49:23,917
I wanted people to know then
the things I was seeing.
564
00:49:35,959 --> 00:49:38,542
Life was cheap in Iraq.
565
00:49:44,583 --> 00:49:46,541
And it made me realize
566
00:49:46,542 --> 00:49:50,041
that... how precious
life actually is.
567
00:49:52,792 --> 00:49:55,166
How precious everyone's life is.
568
00:50:56,917 --> 00:50:58,125
That's right.
569
00:51:15,417 --> 00:51:19,708
This is a war
that resulted in the deaths
570
00:51:19,709 --> 00:51:22,958
of hundreds of thousands
of Iraqis,
571
00:51:22,959 --> 00:51:26,125
four and a half thousand
American soldiers...
572
00:51:34,542 --> 00:51:39,416
It was also a war
that we sped into
573
00:51:39,417 --> 00:51:43,166
in no small part because of
government secrecy.
574
00:51:44,125 --> 00:51:46,249
How can a nation function
575
00:51:46,250 --> 00:51:48,208
if we don't know
what we've done?
576
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:24,666
And the finale of this war,
577
00:52:24,667 --> 00:52:28,374
that started under cover
of secrecy and lies,
578
00:52:28,375 --> 00:52:32,165
ends with the prosecution
and court martial
579
00:52:32,166 --> 00:52:34,875
of someone
who got the truth out.
580
00:53:59,750 --> 00:54:01,250
Mm.
581
00:54:12,709 --> 00:54:13,709
He was good.
582
00:54:14,792 --> 00:54:16,374
Oh...
583
00:54:16,375 --> 00:54:18,791
So sorry, sweetheart. Um...
584
00:54:18,792 --> 00:54:21,792
Ch-Ch-Chelsea.
I'm getting used to it now.
585
00:54:22,667 --> 00:54:24,291
Slowly.
586
00:54:25,041 --> 00:54:26,792
It's tough. Tough.
587
00:54:30,250 --> 00:54:31,999
He was always my baby.
588
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:33,834
He was always my...
589
00:54:36,667 --> 00:54:38,458
Bradley. Hm.
590
00:54:44,083 --> 00:54:46,625
He had the box room,
where he slept in.
591
00:54:47,417 --> 00:54:49,792
And he had how many computers?
592
00:54:50,750 --> 00:54:53,125
I think it was...
one, two, three...
593
00:54:56,250 --> 00:54:58,375
Three computers set up.
594
00:54:59,166 --> 00:55:02,582
And he had this desk chair,
595
00:55:02,583 --> 00:55:04,165
on rollers.
596
00:55:09,417 --> 00:55:11,207
Ah.
597
00:55:11,208 --> 00:55:14,000
And... Oh! And it was locked.
598
00:55:14,792 --> 00:55:16,541
There was a bolt.
599
00:55:16,542 --> 00:55:19,834
I used to say, "That's one room
I don't have to clean."
600
00:55:35,959 --> 00:55:37,290
I can't remember.
601
00:55:37,291 --> 00:55:39,125
Quant... Quant-something.
602
00:55:40,500 --> 00:55:43,374
That's it.
603
00:55:43,375 --> 00:55:46,124
It was a cinder block,
cinder block,
604
00:55:46,125 --> 00:55:48,375
and just two chairs.
605
00:55:52,875 --> 00:55:56,250
I-I didn't say a lot because...
606
00:55:57,375 --> 00:55:59,165
I don't know.
607
00:55:59,166 --> 00:56:01,125
He's, like...
608
00:56:04,417 --> 00:56:06,709
I couldn't touch, couldn't hug.
609
00:56:08,041 --> 00:56:10,250
He was, like...
610
00:56:13,041 --> 00:56:14,124
Oh.
611
00:56:14,125 --> 00:56:17,625
Sorry. But I do love you.
612
00:56:19,250 --> 00:56:21,207
And if I could hug you,
613
00:56:21,208 --> 00:56:24,250
I'd give you the biggest hug
you ever had.
614
00:56:38,125 --> 00:56:39,917
It's ten o'clock.
615
00:56:50,083 --> 00:56:52,000
Twitter's quite addictive.
616
00:56:55,792 --> 00:56:59,207
They're seeing me
push back from, you know...
617
00:56:59,208 --> 00:57:03,542
In a reasonable way
for the first time.
618
00:57:05,458 --> 00:57:07,708
"I don't agree with
what Chelsea Manning did."
619
00:57:07,709 --> 00:57:09,833
There are appropriate channels
to go through.
620
00:57:09,834 --> 00:57:11,958
"Our national security
is important."
621
00:57:11,959 --> 00:57:15,457
And I just...
I responded to that
622
00:57:15,458 --> 00:57:18,999
and said, "Ever actually
try those channels?"
623
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:20,958
And that's it.
624
00:57:20,959 --> 00:57:23,833
And, like, people
went nuts after that.
625
00:57:23,834 --> 00:57:25,041
So...
626
00:57:26,375 --> 00:57:28,625
"She Will."
627
00:58:44,375 --> 00:58:47,083
I was trans before
I started taking hormones.
628
00:58:50,500 --> 00:58:52,499
I'm the same person as I was.
629
00:58:52,500 --> 00:58:55,458
I just am presenting
myself differently.
630
00:59:03,458 --> 00:59:05,207
People don't understand
631
00:59:05,208 --> 00:59:08,291
how young the people are
who are in the military.
632
00:59:10,500 --> 00:59:12,916
I'm uniquely situated
to have been the person
633
00:59:12,917 --> 00:59:16,374
that probably interacted with
Chelsea face to face the most
634
00:59:16,375 --> 00:59:19,332
over the last several years now.
635
00:59:19,333 --> 00:59:22,374
However many years it's been.
I don't even know.
636
00:59:22,375 --> 00:59:26,082
And I have my own sense of
who she is as a person, right?
637
00:59:26,083 --> 00:59:28,416
It doesn't always
line up and match
638
00:59:28,417 --> 00:59:30,750
what the public perception
of Chelsea is.
639
00:59:34,667 --> 00:59:38,040
And I think that she's aware
640
00:59:38,041 --> 00:59:42,249
of that journey ahead of her.
641
00:59:42,250 --> 00:59:46,332
And I think she also
recognizes that she can't...
642
00:59:46,333 --> 00:59:47,499
You can't really dictate...
643
00:59:47,500 --> 00:59:49,290
She can't dictate for herself
644
00:59:49,291 --> 00:59:52,374
which path that's gonna go,
right?
645
00:59:52,375 --> 00:59:54,999
Because she's been prevented
for the last ten years
646
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:57,374
of having the kinds of
experiences that we had
647
00:59:57,375 --> 00:59:59,582
that helped shape us.
648
00:59:59,583 --> 01:00:02,999
And then that becomes
very overwhelming for people.
649
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:05,332
But particularly
for somebody like Chelsea,
650
01:00:05,333 --> 01:00:07,457
who's still trying to be her.
651
01:00:07,458 --> 01:00:10,041
You know, she's still
trying to be who she is.
652
01:00:10,959 --> 01:00:14,374
So as she's finally able
to be who she is,
653
01:00:14,375 --> 01:00:17,542
I just can't wait to see
what she turns into.
654
01:00:19,375 --> 01:00:21,625
Ahh...
655
01:00:24,750 --> 01:00:26,625
Mm...
656
01:00:42,333 --> 01:00:44,582
You are now an icon
to many people
657
01:00:44,583 --> 01:00:47,290
who believe that the government
needs to be more transparent,
658
01:00:47,291 --> 01:00:49,082
not just in war but in general.
659
01:00:49,083 --> 01:00:50,624
If someone,
660
01:00:50,625 --> 01:00:52,082
let's say a young programmer,
661
01:00:52,083 --> 01:00:53,666
comes to you
662
01:00:53,667 --> 01:00:56,749
who wants to work for more
government transparency,
663
01:00:56,750 --> 01:00:59,541
what would you suggest?
664
01:00:59,542 --> 01:01:01,791
Make your own decisions,
make your own choices,
665
01:01:01,792 --> 01:01:03,833
make your own judgment...
666
01:01:03,834 --> 01:01:06,499
Are there specific things
that they could do
667
01:01:06,500 --> 01:01:08,165
to further
that particular cause?
668
01:01:08,166 --> 01:01:10,833
No. I mean,
you have to pay attention.
669
01:01:10,834 --> 01:01:12,290
You have to pay attention.
670
01:01:12,291 --> 01:01:16,541
How did the turmoil
that you were going through
671
01:01:16,542 --> 01:01:20,416
in terms of thinking
about transitioning...
672
01:01:20,417 --> 01:01:23,708
How did that affect
your disclosures later on...
673
01:01:23,709 --> 01:01:25,708
- I don't...
- as your attorney says?
674
01:01:25,709 --> 01:01:27,082
I don't think it did. You know,
675
01:01:27,083 --> 01:01:30,374
it was this endless, straight,
like, you know, like...
676
01:01:30,375 --> 01:01:32,124
They're not connected.
677
01:01:32,125 --> 01:01:33,582
I don't think they're connected.
678
01:01:33,583 --> 01:01:35,791
I see the, like, endless stream
679
01:01:35,792 --> 01:01:37,874
of violence and death
and destruction
680
01:01:37,875 --> 01:01:40,082
as being the primary motivator.
681
01:01:40,083 --> 01:01:41,582
Okay.
682
01:01:41,583 --> 01:01:45,290
Now, WikiLeaks, it's gone
a whole road since back then.
683
01:01:45,291 --> 01:01:47,541
What did you know
about WikiLeaks in 2010?
684
01:01:47,542 --> 01:01:49,749
What did you...
It was much more obscure.
685
01:01:49,750 --> 01:01:51,708
Well, I mean...
Yeah, it was, it was.
686
01:01:51,709 --> 01:01:53,749
I wasn't really a part of,
like, you know...
687
01:01:53,750 --> 01:01:55,791
It was, like... I was, like...
688
01:01:55,792 --> 01:01:57,916
I was running out of time
and decisions
689
01:01:57,917 --> 01:01:59,624
and they just had
the tools available.
690
01:01:59,625 --> 01:02:01,457
They knew how to use them.
That was it.
691
01:02:01,458 --> 01:02:02,916
That's all it boiled own to.
692
01:02:02,917 --> 01:02:04,666
It's like, I...
I was running out of time.
693
01:02:04,667 --> 01:02:07,249
- Because you had to go to Iraq.
- I had to go back to Iraq.
694
01:02:07,250 --> 01:02:08,624
And, you know...
695
01:02:08,625 --> 01:02:12,374
There was no way I was gonna
be able to upload it from Iraq.
696
01:02:12,375 --> 01:02:15,499
You know, it's a policy of
newspapers to redact names
697
01:02:15,500 --> 01:02:18,624
to protect the identities of
people who might be in danger
698
01:02:18,625 --> 01:02:21,749
and the head of WikiLeaks,
Julian Assange,
699
01:02:21,750 --> 01:02:24,374
believes in much more
complete transparency
700
01:02:24,375 --> 01:02:27,332
and he believes that it would
contaminate the evidence,
701
01:02:27,333 --> 01:02:28,582
to use his phrase,
702
01:02:28,583 --> 01:02:30,249
if you did redact those names.
703
01:02:30,250 --> 01:02:33,082
And so he did not,
in some cases,
704
01:02:33,083 --> 01:02:37,499
which potentially
endangered informants,
705
01:02:37,500 --> 01:02:39,207
particularly in Afghanistan.
706
01:02:39,208 --> 01:02:41,249
We strongly dispute those facts.
707
01:02:41,250 --> 01:02:42,374
Okay.
708
01:02:42,375 --> 01:02:44,082
We strongly dispute those facts.
709
01:02:44,083 --> 01:02:47,582
The government was not able
to show any indication of that.
710
01:02:47,583 --> 01:02:49,624
- Yes, yes.
- Zero.
711
01:02:49,625 --> 01:02:52,958
Did you not fear sending out
these things
712
01:02:52,959 --> 01:02:54,749
that you didn't know
what was in them?
713
01:02:54,750 --> 01:02:57,165
I did know. I worked
with this information every day.
714
01:02:57,166 --> 01:02:59,207
Did you not fear
that it might hurt someone
715
01:02:59,208 --> 01:03:01,457
- if you didn't know exactly...
- Absolutely not.
716
01:03:01,458 --> 01:03:02,708
It was historical data.
717
01:03:02,709 --> 01:03:04,499
There's no sources.
There's no methods.
718
01:03:04,500 --> 01:03:07,124
There's no intelligence
information in here.
719
01:03:07,125 --> 01:03:10,666
It's not there. It's people
dying and people getting killed
720
01:03:10,667 --> 01:03:12,499
and people suffering
721
01:03:12,500 --> 01:03:14,875
and on a massive,
incredible scale.
722
01:03:18,542 --> 01:03:21,666
As a result... I'm going to
skip ahead a little bit...
723
01:03:21,667 --> 01:03:23,040
It must be a difficult position
724
01:03:23,041 --> 01:03:26,457
because you're an important
public figure for many people
725
01:03:26,458 --> 01:03:28,082
and yet I can understand
726
01:03:28,083 --> 01:03:30,916
how you want to just get on
with a new life as well
727
01:03:30,917 --> 01:03:32,666
and these things
keep coming back.
728
01:03:32,667 --> 01:03:34,667
How do you deal with that?
729
01:03:38,417 --> 01:03:39,875
I don't know.
730
01:03:41,417 --> 01:03:43,500
I haven't figured that out yet.
731
01:05:58,291 --> 01:06:00,875
How did you survive
in solitary confinement?
732
01:06:05,834 --> 01:06:09,499
I just remember, you know,
whenever I was in Kuwait,
733
01:06:09,500 --> 01:06:11,667
that I died.
734
01:06:13,500 --> 01:06:15,500
I was alive but I was dead.
735
01:06:17,667 --> 01:06:20,582
And I've been dead ever since.
736
01:06:20,583 --> 01:06:22,583
Sort of...
If that makes any sense.
737
01:06:25,417 --> 01:06:28,666
Like, somehow I'm, like, in this
visceral, like, purgatory
738
01:06:28,667 --> 01:06:32,709
between... the two.
739
01:06:33,500 --> 01:06:35,874
And that time.
740
01:06:35,875 --> 01:06:38,041
And then I wake up for a while.
741
01:06:40,625 --> 01:06:42,834
I just want to forget
it ever happened.
742
01:06:49,458 --> 01:06:51,165
I just want to not be reminded
743
01:06:51,166 --> 01:06:53,083
that it ever
happened to me ever.
744
01:06:55,959 --> 01:06:58,959
I think that the moments
that I've enjoyed,
745
01:06:59,917 --> 01:07:01,416
you know, in the years since,
746
01:07:01,417 --> 01:07:04,208
have been whenever
I've completely forgotten.
747
01:07:19,125 --> 01:07:22,041
People want me to relive it
and I can't.
748
01:07:28,375 --> 01:07:31,833
I'm just trying
to find some closure
749
01:07:31,834 --> 01:07:33,583
and some peace to all this.
750
01:07:36,125 --> 01:07:39,040
I live in a state of,
you know, uncertainty
751
01:07:39,041 --> 01:07:41,708
and I feel like
every step I take
752
01:07:41,709 --> 01:07:44,582
is a step on thin ice.
753
01:07:44,583 --> 01:07:46,207
I mean, I'm just, you know,
754
01:07:46,208 --> 01:07:49,249
I'm just another one of us
that's scared.
755
01:07:49,250 --> 01:07:52,082
You know. I just...
I find myself backed in a corner
756
01:07:52,083 --> 01:07:53,749
and there's no other way to go
757
01:07:53,750 --> 01:07:55,582
other than to fight back
758
01:07:55,583 --> 01:07:59,125
and I'm certainly not going to
wait for somebody to save me.
759
01:08:01,667 --> 01:08:03,750
Or save any of us.
760
01:08:05,291 --> 01:08:08,249
I'm certainly not going to wait
for anybody to save any of us
761
01:08:08,250 --> 01:08:12,458
because, chances are...
nobody's coming.
762
01:08:16,125 --> 01:08:18,291
Go ahead.
763
01:08:26,125 --> 01:08:30,165
These are not the people
that made our country great.
764
01:08:30,166 --> 01:08:32,208
But we're gonna
make it great again.
765
01:08:34,041 --> 01:08:37,291
These are the people that
are destroying our country.
766
01:08:39,792 --> 01:08:41,082
The Trump administration's ban
767
01:08:41,083 --> 01:08:42,499
on military service
768
01:08:42,500 --> 01:08:43,791
by transgender people
769
01:08:43,792 --> 01:08:45,416
was announced via Tweet.
770
01:08:45,417 --> 01:08:47,749
What happens to transgender
service members now?
771
01:08:47,750 --> 01:08:50,041
Are they immediately
thrown out of the military?
772
01:09:24,792 --> 01:09:26,999
Hey.
773
01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:28,916
- How are ya?
- I'm doing okay.
774
01:09:28,917 --> 01:09:32,916
I just wanted to check in 'cause
I know I've been super busy.
775
01:09:32,917 --> 01:09:35,374
Yeah.
It's nice to hear your voice.
776
01:09:35,375 --> 01:09:37,207
It's like
everything's just falling apart
777
01:09:37,208 --> 01:09:39,249
and getting worse
and becoming a disaster again.
778
01:09:39,250 --> 01:09:41,499
- Mm-hm.
- My safe is coming.
779
01:09:41,500 --> 01:09:45,040
And my surveillance cameras
are... I have them installed.
780
01:09:45,041 --> 01:09:46,708
I just need to wire them.
781
01:09:46,709 --> 01:09:48,582
Good.
You do what needs to be done.
782
01:09:48,583 --> 01:09:49,709
Yeah.
783
01:09:51,166 --> 01:09:52,874
As soon as I started to see...
784
01:09:52,875 --> 01:09:54,249
As soon as
Charlottesville happened,
785
01:09:54,250 --> 01:09:56,542
I was, like, I need security.
786
01:10:03,041 --> 01:10:06,124
For the last
six months, the alt-right,
787
01:10:06,125 --> 01:10:08,290
they've been, like, mobilized,
788
01:10:08,291 --> 01:10:13,332
and emboldened by the fact that,
789
01:10:13,333 --> 01:10:15,249
you know,
they have an administration
790
01:10:15,250 --> 01:10:17,458
that appears to be
favorable to them.
791
01:10:25,333 --> 01:10:28,166
Can you explain
what we're doing?
792
01:10:31,875 --> 01:10:34,165
For somebody
like me, like a trans person,
793
01:10:34,166 --> 01:10:36,874
or somebody who's black
or brown in this country,
794
01:10:36,875 --> 01:10:40,541
or Jewish in this country...
this is an existential threat.
795
01:10:40,542 --> 01:10:44,791
You know, today it might not be
an existential threat.
796
01:10:44,792 --> 01:10:47,917
But five years from now, it's
an absolute existential threat.
797
01:10:53,542 --> 01:10:56,332
We can be afraid to say
something sometimes.
798
01:10:56,333 --> 01:11:00,249
And I'm not as afraid any more
as I used to be
799
01:11:00,250 --> 01:11:02,625
of saying the thing
that needs to be said.
800
01:11:05,041 --> 01:11:06,916
What are they gonna do?
801
01:11:06,917 --> 01:11:09,125
Throw me in prison?
802
01:11:09,917 --> 01:11:11,958
Or kill me?
803
01:11:11,959 --> 01:11:14,124
They're gonna do that anyway.
804
01:11:14,125 --> 01:11:17,416
If we let them, you know...
805
01:11:17,417 --> 01:11:21,541
If we let them take
the reins of our society.
806
01:11:21,542 --> 01:11:24,041
You know, like,
they're gonna do that anyway.
807
01:11:24,875 --> 01:11:28,125
So I'd rather go down fighting.
808
01:11:40,917 --> 01:11:42,165
Here I am.
809
01:11:42,166 --> 01:11:44,332
- Chelsea!
- Whoo!
810
01:11:46,792 --> 01:11:49,040
I was told not to come here
by numerous people.
811
01:11:49,041 --> 01:11:50,499
- Fuck 'em!
- Yeah.
812
01:11:50,500 --> 01:11:52,999
For so long,
I wasn't able to even be seen
813
01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:54,332
or be out on the streets.
814
01:11:54,333 --> 01:11:56,249
I've been in prison
for seven years.
815
01:11:56,250 --> 01:11:58,999
It was being silenced that
made me so afraid and so...
816
01:11:59,000 --> 01:12:00,124
You're a hero!
817
01:12:03,500 --> 01:12:06,958
When I first got out,
I did not think I was gonna be
818
01:12:06,959 --> 01:12:09,166
jumping straight back
into activism.
819
01:12:10,375 --> 01:12:12,166
I feel embattled.
820
01:12:14,250 --> 01:12:16,874
I've seen
what an occupied country is.
821
01:12:16,875 --> 01:12:19,917
And I've seen what
local suppression looks like.
822
01:12:20,959 --> 01:12:23,124
And I'm seeing all of this
right here
823
01:12:23,125 --> 01:12:26,875
in a place
that I want to call home.
824
01:12:40,291 --> 01:12:42,457
- Good? Good?
- Yes.
825
01:12:42,458 --> 01:12:44,207
Good? Good?
826
01:12:44,208 --> 01:12:46,207
- Consensus.
- Consensus.
827
01:12:46,208 --> 01:12:47,833
Tweet.
828
01:12:52,959 --> 01:12:54,916
We need to stop expecting
829
01:12:54,917 --> 01:12:58,124
that our systems
will somehow fix themselves.
830
01:12:58,125 --> 01:13:02,083
We need to actually take
the reins of power from them.
831
01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:05,290
We need to fix this.
832
01:13:05,291 --> 01:13:07,416
USA! USA!
833
01:13:07,417 --> 01:13:09,625
Damn right we got this.
834
01:13:12,542 --> 01:13:13,749
Whistle-blower Chelsea Manning
835
01:13:13,750 --> 01:13:15,749
surprised the political world
this week
836
01:13:15,750 --> 01:13:18,458
by announcing she was
running for the US Senate.
837
01:13:19,750 --> 01:13:23,207
Manning is challenging
Democratic incumbent Ben Cardin
838
01:13:23,208 --> 01:13:25,208
in the upcoming June primaries.
839
01:13:26,083 --> 01:13:28,249
You are on the air.
Go ahead, please.
840
01:13:28,250 --> 01:13:29,416
My question is, so, Chelsea,
841
01:13:29,417 --> 01:13:31,457
you had some suicide attempts
in prison.
842
01:13:31,458 --> 01:13:33,457
For someone who's had
those kind of issues,
843
01:13:33,458 --> 01:13:35,416
what makes you the candidate
844
01:13:35,417 --> 01:13:37,749
to represent
the people of Maryland?
845
01:13:37,750 --> 01:13:39,874
Are you suggesting that someone
846
01:13:39,875 --> 01:13:41,916
who has suffered
from clinical depression
847
01:13:41,917 --> 01:13:43,791
is not qualified
to run for office?
848
01:13:43,792 --> 01:13:44,833
No, that's not what
I'm suggesting.
849
01:13:44,834 --> 01:13:45,916
Okay.
850
01:13:45,917 --> 01:13:48,040
He's asking, are you
mentally stable now
851
01:13:48,041 --> 01:13:51,249
given all the horrific...?
I think that's what he's asking.
852
01:13:51,250 --> 01:13:53,165
Given discussions
about the President
853
01:13:53,166 --> 01:13:55,499
and his mental stability,
854
01:13:55,500 --> 01:13:57,374
I think that should be something
855
01:13:57,375 --> 01:13:59,332
we ask about all candidates.
856
01:13:59,333 --> 01:14:00,916
I strongly disagree.
857
01:14:00,917 --> 01:14:03,290
You know, we shouldn't be
stigmatizing anybody
858
01:14:03,291 --> 01:14:04,916
for any mental health issues.
859
01:14:04,917 --> 01:14:06,457
You know. But um...
860
01:14:06,458 --> 01:14:10,124
Like, I'm more than willing
to admit I'm in therapy.
861
01:14:10,125 --> 01:14:12,416
As a senator, would you release
confidential information
862
01:14:12,417 --> 01:14:14,582
that was being held
by Senate panel?
863
01:14:14,583 --> 01:14:18,249
No, but I would certainly move
to push for as much transparency
864
01:14:18,250 --> 01:14:20,708
in government as possible.
865
01:14:20,709 --> 01:14:22,708
You're challenging
the Democratic incumbent
866
01:14:22,709 --> 01:14:24,165
in the primary.
867
01:14:24,166 --> 01:14:26,541
Your platform includes
closing prisons,
868
01:14:26,542 --> 01:14:28,917
free college,
universal healthcare...
869
01:14:33,834 --> 01:14:36,165
Hi, I'm Chelsea Manning.
I'm running for US Senate.
870
01:14:36,166 --> 01:14:38,332
And I get asked this a lot
by reporters, you know.
871
01:14:38,333 --> 01:14:40,416
"Why are you running
for Senate?"
872
01:14:40,417 --> 01:14:43,582
If you look around and you look
at everything that's going on,
873
01:14:43,583 --> 01:14:45,457
whether it's
the immigration debate,
874
01:14:45,458 --> 01:14:48,791
healthcare or police,
police brutality,
875
01:14:48,792 --> 01:14:50,165
and mass surveillance...
876
01:14:50,166 --> 01:14:52,416
Like, why the hell
wouldn't I be running?
877
01:14:52,417 --> 01:14:54,040
You know, in this environment,
878
01:14:54,041 --> 01:14:56,999
in this toxic environment
that we live in,
879
01:14:57,000 --> 01:14:58,709
where's our say?
880
01:15:06,083 --> 01:15:07,624
We're just trying
to excite people.
881
01:15:07,625 --> 01:15:09,082
And... And...
882
01:15:09,083 --> 01:15:11,040
Yeah, we know
it's an uphill battle.
883
01:15:11,041 --> 01:15:13,290
We know...
884
01:15:13,291 --> 01:15:16,457
words like "Cinderella story",
885
01:15:16,458 --> 01:15:18,958
"long shot", "underdog",
886
01:15:18,959 --> 01:15:20,917
words like that
are going to be applied.
887
01:15:22,041 --> 01:15:23,416
Is it stressful? Oh, yeah.
888
01:15:23,417 --> 01:15:25,541
This is very stressful.
889
01:15:25,542 --> 01:15:29,541
But we also know that
890
01:15:29,542 --> 01:15:31,374
at the end of it all
891
01:15:31,375 --> 01:15:34,416
we're going to be
so happy that we tried.
892
01:15:34,417 --> 01:15:36,624
Changing the world isn't easy.
893
01:15:36,625 --> 01:15:39,290
It's not. I mean...
894
01:15:39,291 --> 01:15:41,458
Chelsea knows.
895
01:16:10,834 --> 01:16:12,916
If you're
an intelligence analyst,
896
01:16:12,917 --> 01:16:15,500
you really have to
understand your opponent.
897
01:16:17,542 --> 01:16:19,750
And you have to think
like your opponent.
898
01:16:21,417 --> 01:16:24,290
A certain amount of empathy
is a requirement
899
01:16:24,291 --> 01:16:26,250
to being effective.
900
01:16:35,917 --> 01:16:38,416
Whenever I've protested
901
01:16:38,417 --> 01:16:40,833
against the alt-right,
902
01:16:40,834 --> 01:16:43,624
I realized
that Cassandra Fairbanks
903
01:16:43,625 --> 01:16:45,207
was there.
904
01:16:45,208 --> 01:16:48,124
She was a supporter
in my campaign
905
01:16:48,125 --> 01:16:50,000
to get me out of prison.
906
01:16:55,291 --> 01:16:57,457
I decided to use that connection
907
01:16:57,458 --> 01:17:00,249
to try to see what information
we could glean
908
01:17:00,250 --> 01:17:03,667
from that particular
flavor of the alt-right.
909
01:17:06,083 --> 01:17:09,000
It's called rapport-building
in intelligence work.
910
01:17:11,458 --> 01:17:14,500
I didn't really know what the
fuck I was getting myself into.
911
01:17:17,417 --> 01:17:19,500
I finally hit the jackpot.
912
01:17:20,458 --> 01:17:23,416
She invited me to an event.
913
01:17:23,417 --> 01:17:27,417
All of alt-right Twitter
in the same fucking room.
914
01:17:28,291 --> 01:17:31,208
USA! USA!
915
01:17:32,166 --> 01:17:34,332
Manning...
916
01:17:34,333 --> 01:17:36,374
We're never coming down.
917
01:17:36,375 --> 01:17:38,290
We took America back.
918
01:17:38,291 --> 01:17:40,290
America's ours now.
919
01:17:40,291 --> 01:17:41,708
We're never coming down.
920
01:17:41,709 --> 01:17:43,457
- Never!
- Never!
921
01:17:43,458 --> 01:17:45,165
Never coming down.
922
01:17:45,166 --> 01:17:47,165
- We're never coming down.
- We're coming to get you
923
01:17:47,166 --> 01:17:48,499
if you try and take
our firearms!
924
01:17:48,500 --> 01:17:49,708
America's back!
925
01:17:49,709 --> 01:17:52,332
- That's what's up!
- You piece of filth!
926
01:18:54,125 --> 01:18:56,374
Everybody keeps
getting mad at me.
927
01:18:56,375 --> 01:18:58,541
Every time I open my phone,
people are mad at me.
928
01:18:58,542 --> 01:19:01,249
Every time they fucking talk
to me, I have to break shit up.
929
01:19:01,250 --> 01:19:02,541
They're fucking...
930
01:19:02,542 --> 01:19:05,582
And guess what, they're gonna
counter-attack for months, okay?
931
01:19:05,583 --> 01:19:06,749
Every time we do something,
932
01:19:06,750 --> 01:19:08,249
they're going to
fucking respond.
933
01:19:08,250 --> 01:19:09,416
- Shh.
- We're not going to.
934
01:19:09,417 --> 01:19:10,833
Chelsea, I'm not mad.
935
01:19:10,834 --> 01:19:12,916
- I'm not mad.
- Yeah, you are.
936
01:19:12,917 --> 01:19:15,207
You might not think you're mad
but you're mad.
937
01:19:15,208 --> 01:19:17,457
Do you realize, this is like
a scene in the movie
938
01:19:17,458 --> 01:19:18,999
when all the good guys realize
939
01:19:19,000 --> 01:19:20,833
that the enemies are
manipulating them
940
01:19:20,834 --> 01:19:22,374
and dividing them
against each other.
941
01:19:22,375 --> 01:19:23,958
We are a roomful of allies.
942
01:19:23,959 --> 01:19:26,625
We're all on the same team
in here and we're fighting.
943
01:19:34,166 --> 01:19:36,625
- This is old fucking news.
- Okay.
944
01:19:37,875 --> 01:19:40,125
Seven days old now.
945
01:19:41,166 --> 01:19:42,874
I'm tired of fucking
hearing about this.
946
01:19:42,875 --> 01:19:45,416
I am too. We all are.
947
01:19:45,417 --> 01:19:47,959
This is driving us
into the fucking ground.
948
01:19:50,083 --> 01:19:51,624
We've said so much
to your supporters,
949
01:19:51,625 --> 01:19:53,290
so much to people
who were upset.
950
01:19:53,291 --> 01:19:55,124
We can't say any more
to smooth it over.
951
01:19:55,125 --> 01:19:57,207
Nothing we say
will change anyone's minds.
952
01:19:57,208 --> 01:19:59,834
No matter what we do,
people's minds are set.
953
01:20:07,750 --> 01:20:09,874
This week was fucking traumatic.
954
01:20:09,875 --> 01:20:11,917
And I am over it.
I'm so over it.
955
01:20:12,542 --> 01:20:13,666
You don't fucking...
956
01:20:13,667 --> 01:20:15,916
You don't do that.
You don't play their game.
957
01:20:15,917 --> 01:20:17,875
Yeah, don't play their game.
Thank you.
958
01:20:19,458 --> 01:20:21,667
I messed this up.
959
01:21:04,542 --> 01:21:06,916
I knew I'd fucked up.
960
01:21:06,917 --> 01:21:10,875
I immediately knew
that it was indefensible.
961
01:21:13,000 --> 01:21:14,458
It was wrong.
962
01:21:33,959 --> 01:21:35,916
I don't know what people
are expecting out of me.
963
01:21:35,917 --> 01:21:38,541
I mean, I don't know
what the fuck I'm doing.
964
01:21:38,542 --> 01:21:40,500
I just got out of prison.
965
01:21:44,709 --> 01:21:46,749
You know. And here we are.
966
01:21:46,750 --> 01:21:48,833
We're right next to Quantico,
by the way.
967
01:21:48,834 --> 01:21:50,624
Where we are.
968
01:21:50,625 --> 01:21:52,708
So... About a mile and a half
969
01:21:52,709 --> 01:21:55,583
from where I was held
in solitary confinement.
970
01:22:12,917 --> 01:22:16,458
I was never gonna be a...
a mouthpiece.
971
01:22:19,959 --> 01:22:22,125
I'm not a hero.
972
01:22:27,792 --> 01:22:29,792
I'm just somebody who...
973
01:22:32,417 --> 01:22:34,791
you know...
974
01:22:34,792 --> 01:22:36,958
I've always been somebody
975
01:22:36,959 --> 01:22:39,291
willing to, like, jump in
and do something.
976
01:22:45,125 --> 01:22:47,666
I've spoken through
other family members to her
977
01:22:47,667 --> 01:22:49,709
but it's very difficult
to reach her.
978
01:22:56,834 --> 01:22:59,083
You know, and she's not well.
979
01:23:00,792 --> 01:23:03,000
She had a stroke. Yeah.
980
01:23:05,750 --> 01:23:07,207
I try to not get them involved
981
01:23:07,208 --> 01:23:09,417
in all the craziness
that happens around me.
982
01:23:13,625 --> 01:23:16,667
I heard from my father but...
we don't talk much.
983
01:23:22,667 --> 01:23:24,583
Our...
984
01:23:27,000 --> 01:23:30,082
Our positions on life
are so divergent
985
01:23:30,083 --> 01:23:32,709
that I don't know
if we can reconcile.
986
01:23:33,917 --> 01:23:35,959
I don't know
if we can reconcile.
987
01:23:39,083 --> 01:23:41,917
He cared less
about me being gay.
988
01:23:43,041 --> 01:23:47,291
I think he's kind of in denial
about my trans-ness.
989
01:23:50,667 --> 01:23:52,125
I think...
990
01:23:54,792 --> 01:23:56,583
I think...
991
01:24:00,709 --> 01:24:02,709
I think he doesn't know
who I am.
992
01:25:11,041 --> 01:25:12,958
Suspicions undoubtedly
have been raised
993
01:25:12,959 --> 01:25:15,791
that this happened
to Chelsea Manning.
994
01:25:15,792 --> 01:25:17,541
The police raid her home
with guns drawn
995
01:25:17,542 --> 01:25:19,500
in this so-called
"Wellness Check".
996
01:25:20,792 --> 01:25:22,624
She's a candidate
for the US Senate
997
01:25:22,625 --> 01:25:24,207
who is known for participating
998
01:25:24,208 --> 01:25:26,166
in political protests.
999
01:25:57,125 --> 01:25:58,999
Come on, Janice.
1000
01:26:03,166 --> 01:26:05,165
Hey, I have the final statement
1001
01:26:05,166 --> 01:26:07,332
if you want me to read it.
1002
01:26:07,333 --> 01:26:08,667
Uh-huh.
1003
01:26:09,959 --> 01:26:12,416
"Last year, when I was
released from prison,"
1004
01:26:12,417 --> 01:26:15,041
I emerged into a world
of hate and injustice.
1005
01:26:16,875 --> 01:26:18,290
I wondered if I should spend
1006
01:26:18,291 --> 01:26:20,041
my first year of freedom
recovering.
1007
01:26:20,875 --> 01:26:23,874
But I couldn't sit still.
1008
01:26:23,875 --> 01:26:26,249
I tried to use my platform
as a public figure
1009
01:26:26,250 --> 01:26:27,624
to send a message.
1010
01:26:27,625 --> 01:26:29,625
Every one of us has power.
1011
01:26:31,083 --> 01:26:33,541
Over the past several months
it has become clear
1012
01:26:33,542 --> 01:26:36,207
that my experiences
have taken an enormous toll
1013
01:26:36,208 --> 01:26:38,375
on my physical
and emotional health.
1014
01:26:40,083 --> 01:26:41,749
I stepped back from campaigning
1015
01:26:41,750 --> 01:26:43,750
to prioritize my own well-being.
1016
01:26:46,041 --> 01:26:48,875
I found the space and
the treatment I need to heal.
1017
01:26:49,917 --> 01:26:51,374
I'm not giving up.
1018
01:26:51,375 --> 01:26:53,792
I'm grateful for everyone
who believes in me.
1019
01:26:54,709 --> 01:26:57,207
"Together we got this."
1020
01:26:57,208 --> 01:26:59,500
Does that sound good?
1021
01:27:01,792 --> 01:27:04,000
Chelsea?
1022
01:27:20,917 --> 01:27:23,666
It's harder
to do the right thing
1023
01:27:23,667 --> 01:27:26,583
than it is
to go within the process.
1024
01:27:28,750 --> 01:27:31,791
And so I think everybody
has to make their own call
1025
01:27:31,792 --> 01:27:33,834
as to what they're willing
to do.
1026
01:27:38,750 --> 01:27:42,792
Being trans,
being queer as a kid...
1027
01:27:45,458 --> 01:27:47,040
being unwanted
1028
01:27:47,041 --> 01:27:48,916
and being unloved...
1029
01:27:48,917 --> 01:27:52,125
being not cared about...
1030
01:27:54,000 --> 01:27:56,541
I've always felt
a close connection
1031
01:27:56,542 --> 01:27:59,792
with the people
who are hurting the most.
1032
01:28:02,166 --> 01:28:03,749
If I wasn't exposed to that,
1033
01:28:03,750 --> 01:28:05,958
maybe I could ignore it
or not see it.
1034
01:28:05,959 --> 01:28:07,541
But I can't.
1035
01:28:42,500 --> 01:28:44,541
I think Chelsea will always be
1036
01:28:44,542 --> 01:28:46,416
looking over her shoulder...
1037
01:28:48,709 --> 01:28:50,709
For the rest of her life.
1038
01:28:54,542 --> 01:28:56,040
In this country,
once you've been marked
1039
01:28:56,041 --> 01:28:57,499
as an enemy of the state,
1040
01:28:57,500 --> 01:29:00,290
I think you'll always be
an enemy of the state
1041
01:29:00,291 --> 01:29:02,374
and you'll always have to worry
1042
01:29:02,375 --> 01:29:05,083
that they'll find
some other reason.
1043
01:29:10,041 --> 01:29:14,624
There is this sense
of impending doom
1044
01:29:14,625 --> 01:29:17,916
that just never dissipates
and never goes away.
1045
01:29:27,208 --> 01:29:29,249
Chelsea Manning
is back behind bars
1046
01:29:29,250 --> 01:29:31,040
after refusing to testify
1047
01:29:31,041 --> 01:29:34,124
in an investigation
into WikiLeaks.
1048
01:29:34,125 --> 01:29:37,040
Manning can be held
for a maximum of 18 months
1049
01:29:37,041 --> 01:29:38,582
for refusing to testify.
1050
01:29:38,583 --> 01:29:40,666
Her attorney says
they'll likely appeal.
1051
01:29:40,667 --> 01:29:44,666
As everybody knows,
Chelsea has tremendous courage.
1052
01:29:44,667 --> 01:29:47,749
Our primary concern
at this point is her health
1053
01:29:47,750 --> 01:29:49,582
while she is confined.
1054
01:29:49,583 --> 01:29:52,958
Julian Assange's
arrest in London on Thursday,
1055
01:29:52,959 --> 01:29:56,416
inside Ecuador's embassy,
was done by British police
1056
01:29:56,417 --> 01:29:59,749
under a warrant from the
United States for extradition.
1057
01:29:59,750 --> 01:30:02,749
This is the charge
that he faces. Conspiracy.
1058
01:30:02,750 --> 01:30:05,332
Specifically related to hacking
a government computer
1059
01:30:05,333 --> 01:30:07,916
and his relationship
to Chelsea Manning.
1060
01:30:12,875 --> 01:30:14,749
It was a perjury trap.
1061
01:30:14,750 --> 01:30:16,332
Oh, it is a perjury trap.
1062
01:30:16,333 --> 01:30:19,916
How do you think she's holding
up? Do you have any idea?
1063
01:30:19,917 --> 01:30:23,500
I'm worried and I think other
people are worried about her.
1064
01:30:24,458 --> 01:30:27,124
I'm really concerned now
about the...
1065
01:30:27,125 --> 01:30:30,332
that they're holding her
in solitary.
1066
01:30:30,333 --> 01:30:32,624
The grand jury can go for what?
About 18 months.
1067
01:30:32,625 --> 01:30:34,541
And then they can start
all over again.
1068
01:30:34,542 --> 01:30:37,124
- They could.
- They can go forever.
1069
01:30:37,125 --> 01:30:39,541
She's gonna have to
do something to...
1070
01:30:39,542 --> 01:30:43,124
motivate herself
to go through this.
1071
01:31:05,750 --> 01:31:07,833
It's never gonna stop.
1072
01:31:07,834 --> 01:31:09,750
They're not gonna stop.
1073
01:31:11,667 --> 01:31:14,375
It's not gonna stop
until we stop them.
1074
01:31:16,500 --> 01:31:18,542
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