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-[Oliver] Chapter one--
-[Max] Oh, really? You're
gonna lead with that?

-With the black and the
white and everything?
-Too much?

Why are you avoiding
the question?

[Oliver] I'm not avoiding
the question.

I told you before;
I like his films, and
he's extremely prolific.

I just find him to be a tad
inauthentic and way too
derivative of his influences.

[Max] Yeah, I don't know
-- you know -- I -- I --

I sometimes think you
don't like certain things
just because other people do.

[Oliver] No. I just don't agree
with the amount of importance
people place on winning awards.

[Max] Yeah, but
awards are important.

[Oliver] Yes, insomuch
as winning them can help
get your next project funded,

but you cannot judge art. There
are no bests, only favorites.

[Max] I'm pretty sure some works
of art are better than others.

[Oliver] Hey, let me ask you
something: If you knew you could
make any film you wanted to --

anything you wanted to make,
what would you write?

[Max] I don't know,
maybe something about the
troubling times we live in.

-[Oliver] Which troubles
specifically?
-[Max] Christ, take your pick...

I mean, you got cops
are shooting unarmed black
men at an alarming rate;

you can't go to a movie theater
without worrying some psycho's
going to shoot the place up;

government's out of control;
education is pathetically low;

women are still fighting
for equal pay;

you got whole families that are
starving in the most food-
wasting nation on the planet;

and you got an income
gap that makes the Grand
Canyon look like a divot.

[Oliver] Yes, all very important
subjects which I would
sadly do no justice;

but I'm talking about
something you could shoot
with very little money.

-[Max] Oh, okay --
like your films?
-[Oliver] Yes.

[Max] Okay, so something
along the lines of this?

[Oliver] If that's what
you found interesting.

[Max] I don't think
I'd lead with this.

I mean, empty shots
of Manhattan

with the random
dialogue floating over them
is just not exactly riveting.

[Oliver] I'm not asking you
how you would start the film,

I'm asking you what it
would be about overall.
You know, in a nutshell?

[Max] Why don't you just tell
me what you're working on?

I'll tell you if I think
it's interesting.

[Oliver] Okay, so far, all I
know is it's gonna be two guys
walking around New York City,

talking about their core
belief on life, love, etc,
cut between two women,

the main guy's girlfriend and
her best friend, discussing
what's on their minds.

[Max] So another
movie about you?

[Oliver] Yeah, no -- sort of...
I mean, not about me, but

things I'm going through
or have gone through.

[Max] Mmm, who's
playing you this time?

[Oliver] In order to save
the most money, I figure
I gotta play myself.

[Max] Okay. Then can I play me?

[Oliver] But,
you're not an actor.

[Max] What acting?
You said two guys walk around
the city talking to each other.

We do that all the time.
How hard could that be?

[Oliver] Yeah, okay,
we'll play ourselves.

[Max] Wait, wait, wait -- don't
you think that's going to be
confusing to the audience?

[Oliver] Why would it
be confusing?

[Max] Because, we would be
in the beginning as ourselves,

discussing how you're
going to make a film

about these other guys who
we would also be playing.

[Oliver] What are
you talking about?

I -- I wouldn't put us
in the film as ourselves
and as characters.

That would be absurd.

[Max] I thought that's
what you were going for.

[Oliver] I'm not Buñuel...
Although, that is an
interesting concept:

a guy tells his friend about a
film he's planning on making,

but that discussion is actually
the beginning of the film and
leads into the fictional story,

in which two of those
characters are actually
played by these same two guys.

-But how would that work?
-[Max] I don't know.

Have you thought of a title?

[Oliver] Yeah, I've come up
with some ideas but I haven't
settled on one just yet.

[Max] How about,
The Narcissists ?

[Oliver] Yeah -- how 'bout I get
someone else to play you?

[Max] Whatever you're planning
on titling it is just fine...

[Oliver] Yeah, well, the title
doesn't exactly matter
if I can't write it first.

-[Max] You have writer's block?
-[Oliver] It's more like, what's
the purpose of making anything

in this meaningless
world block?

[Max] Oh Christ, Oliver, I'm not
in the mood for an existential
discussion right now.

[Oliver] Well, it's
a tad unavoidable

being as that I'm in the midst
of an existential crisis.

[Max] Yeah, but you're
always in the midst of
an existential crisis.

It's like your single most
defining characteristic.

[Oliver] Yeah, because
life is totally meaningless
and terrible,

and we're all
gonna die one day.

And -- and don't get me started
on where goose down comes from.

[Max] Listen, I know what
you're trying to do, and believe
me, you're much saner,

you're much happier,
with Cassi, so you
need to fight for her.

[Oliver] She cheated on me.

[Max] Big deal, she made out
with an ex-boyfriend
a few times.

[Oliver] Yeah, and
they almost had sex!

[Max] But, they didn't.
And almost sex isn't sex.

And, would it be that big a
deal if they had fucked?

[Oliver] Oh, well, when you
put it to me that way, yeah -

[Max] I mean, tell me the truth,
were you really that surprised
when she confessed?

[Oliver] What are you implying?

[Max] It's just that, you've
broken up, what, twice in the
five years you've been together?

It's not exactly like you had
the perfect relationship.

[Oliver] Oh, oh, oh -- so -- so
now you're saying that
I'm somehow responsible

for Cassi's cheating on me.

[Max] Six months ago
you told me that you guys
were barely having sex.

That she wanted to
but you weren't feeling
it, or some shit.

[Oliver] No. That -- that
-- that's the natural ebb
and flow of passion

in long term relationships.

[Max] Yeah, well, some
people need to make
love to their partner

in order to feel actually loved.

-[Oliver] Since when did
you become Dr. Ruth?
-[Max]Hey, I observe.

I see what's going on
in the world, I just don't
want any part of it.

And, I'm just pointing out
that you do still love Cassi,

and you need to do what
you can to work things
out with her. That's all.

That's why we're apart.
I'm figuring it all out.

Yeah, well, don't take too long.

I can't, ha-- Have you not
been listening to me?!
I can't take too long.

We have to figure out
whether or not we're
gonna renew the lease,

because neither
one of us can afford the
apartment on our own.

-Forget the lease.
-Max, this is New York.

-You're right. Take
care of the lease.
-That's what we're doing.

You know, my Uncle Maurice,
he had a homosexual
relationship for four years,

just so he could
have stabilized rent--

[Oliver] Okay, okay,
alright -- now look.

Let me just finish telling
you about the story I've
been working on, alright?

[Max] Yeah.

[Oliver] So Cassi's been
staying at her sister's house
on the Upper West Side.

When we first see her,
she's walking up the street to
meet her best friend, Letty...

[Cassi] Oh, thank God! Let
me have a drag... please.

[Letty] You're not
worried she'll see?

[Cassi] A week ago I would have
said yes without hesitation.

-[Letty] But...?
-[Cassi] Just give
me the cigarette.

-[Letty] Oh, wow--
That bad, huh?
-[Cassi] Yeah...

But believe me
it is not the couch.

[Letty] I didn't think
it was the couch.

[Cassi] The couch is nicer
than anything Oliver and I
have in our apartment.

My sister, on the other hand...

[Letty] Same old Erin.

[Cassi] It's as if -- It's
as if it's not enough for
her to be doing amazing,

things have to be miserable
for me in order for her to truly
enjoy her own success.

[Letty] Okay, well, my offer
still stands, so--

[Cassi] Thank you.
I love you, but it's
just easier this way.

And, besides, if I
moved in with you now,

my mother would be convinced
I were a lesbian.

[Letty] Yeah, but,
she knows you're not, so--

[Cassi] Yeah, but she's
not so sure about you.

[Letty] Really?
You never told me that.

[Cassi] I've never
been this tired.

[Letty] Well, did
she tell you why?

Is it the way, I don't
know-- is the way
I dress or how I talk?

Is it my haircut or something?
Like, what-- [laughs]

[Cassi] Nah, I think
it has more to do with the
fact that we are now thirty

and you still
remain autonomous.

[Letty] I'm not a country.

[Cassi] I thought it
sounded better than
"perpetually single."

[Letty] Yeah, well that's
a choice, because relationships
are bullshit and don't work.

I mean, hello.

[Cassi] Okay, believe me, the
irony is not wasted on me...

but, I mean, I'm just...
That's my mom.

Anyway, at this point,
I wish I were a lesbian,
just to freak her out.

[Letty] So, Debbie's
being Debbie.

[Cassi] No, Debbie's
being El Diablo.

[Letty] Still better than my
mom, El No Show.

[Cassi] And, she's so down
on Oliver, like it's as if she's
in the relationship with him.

[Letty] Didn't I tell you from
the beginning that I thought she
was way too keen on him?

[Cassi] Yeah, well
now it's the opposite.

[Letty] It's the same thing.
You can't hate someone
you don't truly love.

[Cassi] Don't be ridiculous.
That would mean that every
Jew really loves Hitler.

-[Letty] Okay, let me
rephrase that--
-[Cassi] Yeah--

[Letty] There's a certain
kind of frustration and anger

that comes only with
those whom you truly love.

[Cassi] And the worst part
is, I haven't told her that
this is all my own doing,

so her anger at Oliver
instantly becomes my guilt.

[Letty] Yeah, well, forget
about how your mom feels,

you have to figure out
what you want to do.

-[Cassi] Can't you do it?
-[Letty] Believe me, you don't
want me doing it.

[Cassi] I'm seriously stuck.

[Letty] Okay, let's just--
let's -- let's figure out
where we're gonna eat

and start walking
in that direction.

[Cassi] Well, I was thinking we
could walk down to the Crosby,
or somewhere else in SoHo?

[Letty] Ugh, no, babe...
I'm not walking eighty
blocks just to eat lunch.

Let's just, let's
just stay nearby.

[Cassi] It's so nice out, it'll
be beautiful down there.

[Letty] Yeah, but
it's nice here too.

Let's just, okay, let's
just go to Whole Foods
and sit in the park.

[Cassi] No, no, no -- I'm
sick of staying above 58th.
My creativity is waning.

[Letty] Wow, you're having
hipster withdrawal.

[Cassi] I live in Brooklyn
Heights, not Bushwick.

[Letty] Let's just -- let's
just go Upper East.

[Cassi] No, Letty, I am not -- I
don't want to be surrounded by
spoiled, snobby housewives.

[Letty] No, you'd rather be
around spoiled, snobby college
kids and nameless models.

But, if we go Upper East,
by the time we're done,
I'll already be home.

[Cassi] Oh, gee, thanks.

[Letty] You know what I mean.

[Cassi] Letty, please,
can we just walk a bit
and eat downtown?

I really need
a change of scenery.

[Letty] Fine, but let's just,
let's walk to the
seventy-second station

and take the subway from there.
Otherwise I will be over-walked
by the time we get downtown.

[Cassi] Awe, your precious feet.

[Letty] Oh, fuck you!

[Cassi] [laughing] There she is!

-[Oliver] Whoa, whoa,
whoa, whoa, whoa--
-[Max] Hit... hit that.

[Oliver] What are you doing,
man? You can't just smoke
that shit anywhere.

[Max] Dude, it's not
nineteen-ninety anymore.
Everybody smokes pot.

[Oliver] Everybody
doesn't smoke pot.

[Max coughing] Everybody
does smoke pot!

And this is an electronic
atomizer, so you can't
smell what I'm smoking.

Trust me, people just
assume it's tobacco.

Okay, look, look,
look, look, look...

Nobody assumes it's tobacco
and you look like you're
sucking on a plastic dick.

So you're gay bashing now?
You, of all people?

What? No, I'm not gay bashing.

And, what do you mean,
me "of all people?"

No, no, I'm just -- you know,
I'm merely pointing out,

that with your history
of sexual experimentation,

you might not want
to use fellatio as
an insult. That's all.

Okay, look, note taken.
But please, Max, just put
the fucking pipe away.

Okay, look -- I'm gonna
assume this is all stress
related to Cassi, okay?

I'm not take any offense,
and look, putting the fucking
pipe away right now.

-Thank you--
-But, I just want
to go on record,

saying that if you
took a few puffs of that,

it's gonna fix all
of your problems.

You know that I quit
smoking because it
gave me panic attacks.

You had one lousy attack
four years ago.

If you just try smoking
a little bit, it probably
wouldn't happen again.

Let me ask you something:
why did you want to
hang out with me today?

Because, you seemed
really down last night, okay?

And I just want to make
sure you're all right.

I mean, is that alright?

Is it okay that I want to be
here for my best friend in
his time of need, huh?

My buddy, my paisan ...

My prairie home companion.

Okay. All right, yes.

It's just, you know-- sometimes
you're a little strange.

-Oh, I'm strange?
-Yeah--

Well, listen: uh, you know,
I'm not the one picking a
fight with his best friend

because he decided to be
nice, hang out with you,

walk around the city, talk
about your troubles,
forget your problems...

I think that's a little odd.

You're right, I'm sorry. I don't
mean to attack you. It's just,

I'm freaking out lately, you
know -- I, I... I apologize...

Thank you.

But I really do think if
you took a few puffs...

[puffs]

I'm not even responding to that.

-It's-- I don't know what
to say to you anymore.
-Come on, dude.

-It's ridiculous.
-I'm just saying, bro.
it's medicinal.

Okay, come on,
Smokey. Let's go.

[Max] Weirdo.

[Letty] So, I had an
epiphany recently.

[Cassi]Oh, please, not another
insight about my relationship.

[Letty] It's not about you
guys, but it does relate
to human beings as a whole.

[Cassi]Alright, just spit it
out so we can move on.

[Letty] Okay, I was watching
the news and thinking
about human beings

-and how we have behaved since
the beginning of civilized time.
-[Cassi scoffs]

[Letty] And basically,
it seems to me, that we
haven't changed at all.

The only things that
have truly evolved are
technologies and medicines.

Just machinery and health.

But, if you think about, I
don't know, any slice of time,

any hundred to five hundred
year period over the past

five thousand years,
the general patterns
would be the same:

war over here; someone trying to
dominate the world over there;

famine on this side; power
struggles over there

and, most people just
going along with whatever
the times have to offer.

It's almost as if it's human
nature to be this way,
as if it's in our DNAs.

[Cassi]Yes, it -- most people
can be shoved into one
category or another;

that's what makes
us so predictable.

[Letty] Exactly. Which
lead me to thinking
about you and Oliver...

[Cassi]And, there it is.

[Letty] And, while he has
definitely stepped it up,

been supportive,
committed, and loyal,

ultimately, he's never stayed
in a relationship this long.

[Cassi]So, my problems, the
things I've done to him, to us,

are actually manifestation
of my own intuitions

that he would ultimately
fail the relationship?

[Letty] Sort of...
More like, hurt him
before he hurts you.

I mean, I'm not saying
you don't have to own
your own fuck ups,

but at least you can
understand them and
stop beating yourself up.

[Cassi]I am what I am.

[Letty] Exactly.

[Cassi]So, I just have
to blame him?

[Letty] You know what I mean.

[Cassi]I do, but I think
it's inaccurate.

[Letty] Oh, another thing I was
thinking of was statistics.

[Cassi]Christ!

[Letty] Well, you know
how people say,
"I quit drinking

because I didn't want to
end up a statistic?"

[Cassi]Yeah...?

[Letty] Well, they're
still a statistic.

They're just on the positive
side of the spectrum.

You can't have a negative
without a positive.

I never thought
about it that way.

Yeah -- talk to Oliver.

We're seeing each other tomorrow
to discuss the lease

and whether or not
to renew, or break up.

Well, good, at least you can
put your anxieties to bed.

And, move on to second guessing.

Okay, Cass, I know I say
a lot of stupid shit and
we fuck around a lot,

but I'm worried about you.

I know. Thank you. I love you.

But this just needs time.
And, unfortunately,
I don't have any.

[Max] Whatever
happened to Sarah?

[Oliver] No idea. I stopped
talking to her five years ago,
when I moved in with Cassi.

Yeah, yeah, I know, but why?

Because, I told you, Cassi
doesn't trust any women
that I've been with...

And, actually, a few
that I haven't been.

So, what you're really saying
is, she doesn't trust you.

No, you see, you just
don't get relationships.

What's to get?
You meet an individual,

you fall in love with them
because they are uniquely
different than you,

then do your best to change them
into a variation of yourself

until you resent each other
and you're fucking miserable.

So maybe you do
get relationships.

Anyway, I wasn't asking
why you didn't remain
friends with Sarah

after getting together
with Cassi,

I was wondering why
you originally stopped
talking with her?

And I thought, also,
that she cheated on you.

No, no, see, not physically.

Or, she wouldn't admit to it,
but, you know, other stuff.

-Uh-huh...
-You see.

This is becoming your pattern.

Okay, I don't want
to talk about it.

Oh, come on dude, you really
gotta learn to compartmentalize.

Oh, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah,
says the guy whose
strongest personality trait

is most aligned with that
of a sociopath's...

Well, if you want
to be accurate,

it's more closely aligned with
that of a psychotic's, but...

-Oh, apologies--
-I think I'm gonna
try to fuck that barista.

And, I take that apology back.

No, no, I'm serious man.
She's something else.

-Who, Janie?
-Is that her name?

-The woman
who just served us?
-Yeah.

Yes. Janie.

Really? I thought it was Pamela.

It's not. And, please,
don't hook up with Janie.

You know I can't
promise you that.

God, please don't. Look -- she
knows we're friends, okay?
She sees me every morning.

So what?

So, you're gonna screw
things up and I'm gonna have
to find a new coffee shop

just like I had to find
a new taco stand last year.

I did you a fucking favor, dude.
Those tacos were garbage!

And, besides, there's like,
uh, thirty- five coffee shops

in a twelve-block radius
of your apartment.

Seven of which alone
are Starbucks.

Okay, look, look, look, look.
Let me just put it to you
this way, alright?

They know me there,
alright? I like it.

-Uh-huh.
-They give me free coffees,

and I like it, and it's
comfortable, okay?

-So -- so what,
that makes Jenny off limits?
-Oh my God, it's Janie!

Dude, it could be fucking
Marsha for all I care -- I don't
care, she's fucking hot!

Oh, oh, yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah...

That's right, see. Why do you
feel the need to put your dick
in every pretty girl you meet?

Dude, it's not just pretty
girls, I don't discriminate...

I go after whoever turns me on
-- whoever turns me on...

You remember that, uh,
big girl Samara with the
funny face and the fat rolls?

-Yeah, yeah, fat Samara.
-Fat Samara...

I used to take Vaseline,
put it on her back fat
and fold it around my--

Okay! Alright.

I get the point, alright?
Now just, please, stay
away from Janine.

Okay.

I see.

What? See what?

Oh-kay. You know your futile
attempt to dissuade me now
made complete fucking sense.

You got a crush on Janet.

Oh my god, it's Janie!

Not Janet,
not Janine, not Jenny...

Janie!

You're like in love
with this chick, bro.

Oh, my fucking -- would you just
-- you're fucking doing this to
make me crazy. It's, I--

-I'm-- I-- Fuck!
-Why can't you
just be honest?

-No more!
-Just be honest!

-No more--
-Hey, I'll stay away.

[Letty] I had computer sex
with Zane yesterday.

[Cassi] What? Letty,
come on. I thought you
said he had a girlfriend.

[Letty] What? It's not cheating.

What are you mean?
Of course it's cheating. He
had sex with another person.

Cybersex. There's a difference.

I don't think his girlfriend
would see it that way.

Well, lucky for me I don't give
a shit about his girlfriend.

Not cool.

But, regardless, why are
you even communicating
at all with that asshole?

You mean, that sexy asshole?

He's a jerk!

Yeah, with a big dick!

Why does it always come down
to penis size with you?

Because that's what I like.

I mean, you prefer soft cuddles
and wooing whispers,
and I like a big cock.

And, I'm not talking about
a generally large penis.
His dick is anaconda huge.

In fact, once when we were
stoned and fucking around,

he pretended his dick
was a boa constrictor

and wrapped it clear
around the cat's neck.

Oh, my god!

Yeah. It was funny until
the cat got scared and dug
its claws into the shaft.

You know, you don't know
how much blood is flowing
through one of those things

until you see ten little
puncture wounds pulsating
to the beat of a man's heart.

Letty!

What? It's really,
really, really big.

Okay. I get it. I get it.

And, I might add, it's just
cybersex. I mean, Oliver
masturbates to porn.

And, that bothers me for a
whole slew of other reasons,

but this is totally different
and you know it.

Why, because I'm a real person?

No, because he knows
you. And, because
he's your fucking ex!

And, because it's just wrong.

Wha-- why does-- why does --
why is it wrong? Why does it
have to be an issue of morality?

Well, if it's not wrong,
then why doesn't he
tell his girlfriend?

Because she'd freak
out and be insecure.

Yeah, and she'd leave
him and hate you.

Well, I don't give a shit if
she'd hate me, and I
don't think she'd leave.

Well, you should give a shit.
And you told me that it wasn't
even technically a relationship

when you were together,
that you were free
to date other people.

Yeah, that I was free to date
other people, not Zane.

And, Zane was okay with that?

Why would I have
ever told him that?

Oh, how could I have
forgotten? You have that
don't ask don't tell policy.

I might add that if you
had the same policy,

you and Oliver wouldn't be
in this pickle you're in.

Okay, first of all, I didn't
fuck Charlie, we only shared
a few innocent kisses.

Cass, if you're going
to lie, don't do it to me.

I'm not lying.

You told me
Charlie fingered you.

Even by my standards
that's a tad more intimate
than a few innocent kisses.

Okay, can you please--
Don't remind me.

I have nothing but shame
and remorse for my
actions those evenings.

Well, that's why
you're in a pickle.

Well, if the only reason
I wasn't in a pickle

was because I was sleeping
with whoever I wanted to,

behind my partners back,
then I'd be in a whole
other pickle.

And, Oliver didn't find out
because I told him, he found out
because he found evidence.

And, more importantly, I don't
want to be in a relationship

with someone I don't wholly want
to be in a relationship with.

Okay then, you don't
want to be with Oliver?

That's not what I'm saying.
You're twisting my words.

I'm talking about your actions.

-Yes, I fucked up!
-More than once.

Yes, okay, so I'm not
perfect. We know this.

But, you're too
hard on yourself.

And, you're too easy.

Said the girl in a pickle.

You-- you can't go
through life not taking
responsibility for your actions,

especially when
they hurt someone.

I don't care. I don't
really give a shit about
what people think, I mean,

I just do whatever I want,
and I don't give a shit
about consequences.

Okay, well, that's the
crux of your issues.

And I promise you,
if Zane's girlfriend knew,
she would leave him.

Yeah, that's why
he doesn't tell her.

You've gotta stop this.

It's fucking Zane and some
twat he met on Tinder.

Yeah, well you don't know this
twat, and she probably didn't
know you were together

when she met him, and she
could be a very nice person.

Then I'd be doing her a favor.

Letty, do you understand how
backwards that thinking is?

I mean--

Okay, not that
I should be lecturing
anyone on relationships.

I'm aware of the hypocrisy.

It's always easy to see other
people's problems. It's what
informs us to work on ourselves.

We are but mirrors
to one another's flaws.

Did Guru Dan tell you that?

No, I quit that class
a month ago.

Wait, you never told me that.

Yeah, I saw Guru Dan
feeling some twenty-one-
year old's perfect tits

while repositioning her.

What a pervert.

I'd agree, but I think
just deep down I was
jealous he never did that to me.

-Letty.
-What? It's true.

Well that explains the cybersex.

Yeah? So what explains
the fingering?

Okay, can we...

Can we just walk on?

[Cassi sighs]

[Oliver] Never trust anyone
who quotes the Bible.

[Max] Like a politician?

[Oliver] No, never trust
a politician, period.
But never trust anyone:

teachers, advisers,
your parents,

anyone who quotes anything
even biblical in nature.

[Max] New Testament or Old?

[Oliver] Any testament,
any sect-- it doesn't
even matter what religion.

You're better off taking
advice from someone who
quotes Alice in Wonderland

or "Hop On Pop."

[Max] Is this what went
wrong with Marie?

[Oliver] Why do you feel the
need to go over every one
of my failed relationships

each time I'm struggling
in my current one?

[Max] I'm just trying
to see where it all goes
wrong with my friend.

[Oliver] It doesn't
all go wrong.

Relationships are tricky.
In the case of Marie,

it did have to do with
religious differences.

[Max] So she didn't want
to be with an atheist?

[Oliver] It was more
because of the kid.

[Max] What kid? You guys
talked about having kids?

[Oliver] I must have told you
I accidentally got her pregnant.

[Max] No, you didn't.

[Oliver] Yeah, well, it led
to us discussing how this
child would be raised

and I made it abundantly clear,

no kid of mine would
ever be brainwashed
with religious jargon,

and especially not that
of the gospel variety.

[Max] Oooff, she took
offense to this?

[Oliver] To say the least.

[Max] So what happened,
she miscarried?

[Oliver] No, she
had an abortion.

Wait, didn't we just
established the fact
she was Christian?

Max, don't be so naive.

I mean, you know religious
people today are like
bakers making cookies:

If they don't like an ingredient
they just take it out.

You must have been freaking out.

Yeah, well, sadly, I had
been through that before.

You got someone else pregnant?

Three other people.

-Three others people?
So, four total?
-Yeah.

I was really young, stupid
and naive, and irresponsible
in my early twenties.

[Max] I thought I got a chick
pregnant once. Turns out
she was just constipated,

had to take a huge shit.
But, for like two days, I
was freaking the fuck out!

Look, her turd ended
up being so massive,
we actually named it.

Listen, I don't want
to hear about your
girlfriend's shit. Okay?

-[Max] So, what, do
you want to have a kid?
-[Oliver] I-- I mean...

It is something that Cassi and
I have discussed, but, we gotta
see what comes of us first.

[Max] But, do you
really want one?

[Oliver] I don't know,
most of the time.

I mean, I have to have
someone to leave my stuff to.

-[Max] Your stuff?
-[Oliver] My money,
or whatever I have.

[Max scoffs] Fuck.
Listen, Oliver. I'm fucked
up, okay? I admit it.

Okay, I got very dark thoughts
about life, love, sexuality.
I'm a masochist, a misogynist.

I'm a flender. I'm pretty
much the last person
to take real advice from,

and to tell you the
truth, I think kids
are fucking disgusting.

But trust me when I tell
you that to have a child

just to have someone
to leave your shit to
who isn't a stranger

-is gonna be severely
damaging this child.
-No.

You're not, look...
I don't just wanna have
a kid to leave my stuff to,

I'm looking for meaning
in my life, you know, a reason
to wake up every day.

And, besides, Cassi wants
to have a child eventually.

That's fucked up.

No, that's the reason
people have kids;

to give their otherwise
sad little lives
meaning and purpose.

I mean, do you think if anybody
took five minutes to think
about the future ramifications

that their child will one day
have to deal with, anybody
would ever procreate?

I mean, is this your argument
for having a kid or
for not having one?

Okay, look, uh.

What I'm saying is that
having a child seems to change
people's perspectives on lives.

And, maybe it's about time
that I changed mine.
That's all, you know?

Okay.

-[Oliver] Anyway...
-[Max] Alright.

[Letty] I told you I had
an abortion once, yeah?

It was the worst.
Not the physical pain,
just the emotional pain;

and, the disappointing stares
from my grandparents.

[Cassi] I can't even imagine.

[Letty] Yeah.

Oh! Did I tell you I was
uptown and I saw April
Menlow's name on a building?

[Cassi] Wait, she's already
donating buildings?

[Letty] Yeah. It's as
if she thinks it'll bring
her parents back.

[Cassi] I'm pretty sure
people do that for
their children's sake,

not to bring back their
deceased parents.

[Letty] No. Uh-uh.
They do it because they're
self-important pricks.

You can't call everyone who
donates a building a prick.

A lot of them are
honored posthumously

and, for the most part, they're
very important buildings.

Yeah, well, I'd be
too embarrassed to
have my name on one.

Wait, that would be
embarrassing? Out of all the
things you've done in public,

having your name on a building
would be embarrassing?

Yeah I mean, I definitely
don't give a shit about
leaving a legacy behind.

I mean, you're here
and then you're gone,

and no amount of buildings
with your name on it
makes you immortal.

I never realized you gave
the subject so much thought.

Yeah, well, I think
about lots of shit.

Hey, did I ever tell you that
in high school I was voted

least likely to become
President?

Okay, a bit of a
non-sequitur, but I'll bite.

Why did your school even
have that option available?

I don't know. It's better than
what Joey Federini was voted:

Most likely to suffer from
premature erectile dysfunction.

What the hell was wrong
with your school yearbook?

It wasn't the official school
yearbook, it was an off
campus, underground weekly

that usually concentrated
its efforts on destroying the
carefully guarded reputations

of mean teachers who also
happened to be closeted
alcoholics or homosexuals.

I thought it was
hilarious back then,
but now I'm not so sure.

Two different teachers
resigned after one
particularly harsh issue.

One of them sued the school and
the other tried to kill himself.

Jesus! What was in it?

Just your run of the mill,
semi- warranted, immature
assaults on their character.

And, a bunch of pictures of
teachers with the word "cunt"
written on their foreheads.

Still, that doesn't
sound like suicide bait.

Oh, no, the teacher who tried
to kill himself, Mr. Dobbs,

-was caught in his car during
school hours, masturbating.
-Oh!

What a creep!

I don't know.

It just... it just made me feel
sad for him, and lonely...

Anyways, that was the first year
I fucked my English teacher.

[Cassi] And it just keeps
on unraveling itself.

[Letty] I celebrated eight
years sober on Monday.

Letty! That's amazing! Why
didn't you lead with that?

Oh, you know
how I feel about it.

Ugh! You should be
proud of yourself.

No, trust me, I'm beyond
grateful to be sober, I just
feel like -- I don't know,

I just feel like an addict
celebrating getting
sober would be like

if an arsonist celebrating
escaping from a burning
building that he set on fire.

No way. It's really awesome!
Lunch is on me today.

No, please, let me buy.

It reminds me that I only
have money because
I'm not strung out.

Then I'm buying
you dessert later.

Wow, well you know
my weakness. [laughs]

[Cassi] Really, desserts? I
thought it was large phalluses.

[Letty] Oh, well, what
I wouldn't do for a large,
chocolate cock right now!

[Cassi] I have only myself
to blame for that.

[Letty] They're so tasty!
And the balls are made
from Cadbury cream eggs.

[Cassi] Okay, now
you're just showing off.

-But, do they really
taste like that?
-[Letty] Uh-huh.

[both laughing]

[Max] You ever try to
last when jerking off to
some really good shit,

as if it's a real person
in the room and you're
trying to impress them?

[Oliver] No. When I masturbate,
I just want the end result.

[Max] Oh, you gotta
practice your edging, bro.

-[Oliver] My what?
-[Max] Your edging. It's like,
trying to control your pop.

[Oliver] Okay. I can control
my pop just fine, thank you.

[Max] Uh-huh. Forget it, man,
you wouldn't understand.
It's a Tantric thing.

Oh, what -- you're suddenly
some kind of Kama Sutra,
sex master?

Did you see the girl
I was talking to last night?

Are we still talking
about the same thing?

Now just stop trying
to beholden me to
your oppressive, linear values.

Okay, I don't know
what the fuck you're
talking about anymore.

Just answer the question: did
you see the girl I was talking
to last night? Yes or no?

I did see the girl.
She sat with us
for forty-five minutes.

And what did you think?

I don't know, I didn't talk
to her. She was pretty.

-That's it?
-Are you trying to get me
to ask you what happened?

-What do you mean
what happened?
-Oh, my god.

Yes, I walked her home.
No, I didn't fuck her.

But I did make out with her,
and believe me,
I'm gonna fuck her soon.

Oh, great. Sounds good.

You know what?

Being in a relationship
for the past five years

has made you forget
what it's like out there
for the rest of us.

No, I'm just not interested
in every single one
of your exploits.

Don't be a snob.
I'm your best friend

and I'm just telling you
about a beautiful woman

that I'm going to put my
erect penis into one day.

Oh, well, we all
have to have goals.

Yeah, well you judge now, but
if you and Cassi do break up,
you're gonna see what it's like.

Yeah. You know, can we
talk about something
a tad more serious?

Like what? Those tiny little
indie films you love so much?

-With the no budgets
and no names?
-Yeah.

I like them because
they're the purest films
in cinema today.

Don't you think that's just
like a slight exaggeration?

No, no. I think as soon
as too much of somebody
else's money gets involved,

or too many names, out goes
the pure vision of the director.

And, I think it's imperative
that any filmmaker

tries to expunge as many
outside opinions as possible.

Yeah, along with the audience.

Yeah. Don't get me started on
filmmakers who make films with
an audience's concerns in mind.

You know, some people do
make films with the hopes

that someone other
than themselves are going
to see it eventually.

Okay, you know what?
Let's not talk about films.

What about people you've seen?
Have you ran
into anybody lately,

had any interesting
conversations?

I pretty much only talk to you,
women I'm sleeping with, and
women I'm trying to sleep with.

Okay, my bad...
Uh, what about books
you've read recently?

I told you, uh, I quit
reading books years ago.

I thought that was a joke.

Why would I joke about that?

Why would you stop
reading books?

Uh, I think I -- you
know -- I thought I read, pretty
much everything I cared to read

that would have been made
available during the lives
of my favorite authors,

and I'm just not interested
in contemporary authors.

Yeah, another whackadoo
theory by Max the Great!
I mean, this is absurd!

Do you-- There's tons of--
brilliant, contemporary
authors out there today.

-Yeah?
-Yeah.

-Well, I don't give a fuck!
-Oh my god, it's like
you're allergic to culture.

No. I just don't waste time
with all that bullshit.

Oh, no, no, no, that's right--
playing Grand Theft Auto
is far more important.

No, I don't think either's
more important, but, GTA
is certainly more entertaining.

It's rotting your brain.

[scoffs] Listen, Oliver-- look.
I've been smoking pot every day
since I was eleven years old.

Okay? I enjoy drinking,
Xanax, a little Xbox, and
a little butthole play, okay?

I'm not exactly concerned
about my brain.

And don't you should be
focusing a little bit more
on your problems with Cassi

than worrying about
my lifestyle choices?

Holy shit, bro. I have
never seen you speechless.

-Okay, you know
what? Fuck you! Again.
-[laughs]

[Cassi] Yeah, you do have, like,
a little something in there.

[Letty] Are you serious?

[Cassi] Yeah. I don't know --
looks like spinach, or -- what
did you have for breakfast?

[Letty] What do I do?

[Cassi] Take the spit
and, like, swish it through
your two front teeth.

-Yeah, like that.
-[Letty] Is it gone?

-[Cassi] Yeah. You're good.
-[Letty] Okay.

-Ah, gross.
-[Cassi] It wasn't bad.

-[Letty] Cass--
-[Cassi] If I saw it before
I would have said something.

[Letty] That's so embarrassing.

[Cassi] It's fine.

[Letty] Yeah-- talking to
people, and you're like, hey!
[laughs] This big green thing.

You're beautiful no matter
what's in your teeth.

Oh, well, thank you.
I appreciate that.

[Cassi] I think -- I like
the female power thing.
I like, like, the...

the female-centric stories
now. You know.

[Letty] Yeah.

I mean, I agree, but...

-I don't know.
-[Cassi] But what?

[Letty] I don't know.
I don't know. I don't know.

To be honest, I fell asleep
for like twenty minutes.

[Cassi] Oh my god, you
do that every time.

-[Letty] No, I don't, do I--
-[Cassi] Yes you do!

Every time I go see
a movie with you...

-[Letty laughing]
-[Cassi] You fall asleep.

And there's always,
like-- inevitably there's
always, like, popcorn--

-[Letty] Right.
-[Cassi] That has spilled all
over you because you drop it.

[Letty laughs]

Maybe I just need to do, lot's
of-- Popcorn makes me so gassy.

[Cassi] Yeah, I know.

[street noises, children
screaming, people chatting]

[loud crash]

[cars honking]

[Letty] Do you ever prolong your
orgasm when masturbating?

[Cassi] Why do you have
to ask me stuff like that?
You know it embarrasses me.

[Letty] Yeah, that's why
I ask you. It's so fun
to watch you squirm.

[Cassi] So much.

[Letty] What?

[Cassi] It's "so much fun," or
"such fun," but not "so fun."

[Letty] Oh, don't do that,
It's really frustrating.

My grandfather used
to correct me all the time.

[Cassi] Holy shit!
Did I just accidentally
stumble upon the one thing

that makes Letty
squeamish in public?

-[Letty] Okay, back
to you and Oliver.
-[Cassi laughs]

[Letty] If you want
my uncut advice,

I think you should pack it in,
call it a day and move on.

[Cassi] This isn't an auto
loan I'm considering,
this is my life.

[Letty] Stay single, focus
on your career while
you're still young enough.

[Cassi] My career
isn't the problem.

[Letty] No, your daydreaming is.

[Cassi] In what way?

[Letty] In the way that it's
exactly what drove you to go get
finger-popped by an old flame,

when things got
tough with Oliver.

-[Cassi] Really? Finger popped?
-[Letty] Yeah.

And, had you been single, that
wouldn't have been an issue.

[Cassi] I don't like
being single.

[Letty] No, you don't
like being alone.

-There's a difference.
-[Cassi] You're wrong.
I enjoy my alone time,

when I'm in a relationship.

It's nice knowing
that it's temporary.

[Letty] Everything is temporary.
My arm is temporary.

[Cassi] Okay.

[Letty] There's nothing
more isolating

than sleeping next to a person
you feel estranged from.

[Cassi] I never said
I felt estranged.

[Letty] Okay, disconnected.

[Cassi] Disconnections come and
go. It's about communication.

[Letty] But you always say
that Oliver wants space.

[Cassi] That has to more to do
with my own fear and insecurity
that he wants to leave me.

Not my annoyance with
the fact that he needs solitude
in order to do his work.

[Letty] Hmm.
I prefer what I have.

I see someone I want
to be with and I'm with
them. As simple as that.

[Cassi] No, except,
you're never actually with them.

Which is why, no
matter who you choose,

you will never actually
experience true intimacy.

[Letty] What I do is
the definition of intimate.

[Cassi] No, what you do is
the definition of uninhibited,

promiscuous even,
but not intimacy.

-[Letty] I disagree--
-[Cassi] In fact, one could,

one could argue that it's
the antithesis of intimacy.

[Letty] I disagree.

I think the only thing that
matters is in the moment,

and in the moment
of sexual collision,

the only thing that exists is
me and the person I'm with,

and that moment is the most
intimate moment possible.

If anything, couples hide
behind the delusion of safety,

thinking that equates to
intimacy and meaning, when
really it's just a smokescreen

from having to look at
yourselves honestly and clearly.

[Cassi] Wow, you're
really fucked up.

[Letty] Agree to disagree.

[Cassi] Letty, please,
talk to a professional
about that theory.

[Letty] You talk
to a professional.

[Cassi] I do. Twice a week.

[Letty] And, look
where it's gotten you.

[Cassi] I'm here because
relationships are imperfect
and because I fucked up.

[Letty] So why be in it?

Because, they're also
some of the most beautiful
expressions of love,

and with some work,
and a lot of faith,

you can experience
something better than any drug

or momentary, sexual
encounter has to offer.

[Letty] Okay, then you
know what you wanna do.

[Cassi] I wish it
were that easy.

[Letty] Well, why isn't it?

[Cassi] I don't know.
Can we just, keep
walking in silence, please?

[street noises]

[Max] What do you think it
is about younger women
make 'em so attractive?

[Oliver] Can we not
do this right now, Max?

What, are you too
mature to answer that?

No, I'm just not obsessed
with sex the way you are.

Every man is a obsessed with
sex; some just don't admit it.

Oh, yeah -- well, you
have no problem there.

Fuck no! I own that shit!
I know what I like and I
say it to the fucking world.

You know, admission
doesn't always equal honesty.

No, but it does equal intimacy.

No, not when the truth
of the admission is being
used as a smokescreen.

You're really not going
to discuss why younger
women are so hot, are you?

Okay, what's to discuss? They
have softer, smoother skin,

they aren't worried
about careers or portfolios,

they not hung up on
marriage and children,

they have a naive innocence
and their skin smells like
fresh, blossoming flowers.

I mean, what do you wanna hear?

Wow!

I just wanted to discuss
why men, in general, find
younger women attractive,

and, but you, you've really
given this a lot of thought.

You're a real fucking sicko.

Okay, you know what?
Go fuck yourself.

Come on! Eh...

I'm joking! I'm just kidding!

I agree, they smell
like flowers!

I would never date
a younger guy.

Don't be so turned off.

I just don't see the appeal.

The appeal is that
they are young,
hard-bodied studs

ready to fuck on a moment's
notice, and more than
once in an evening.

Why do you have to be so crass?

Why do you have
to be such a prude?

[Cassi] I'm not a prude,

I just don't want to hear
the crude details about the
prepubescent boys you screw.

[Letty] They're
not prepubescent,

they just shave
themselves clean; it's
a generational thing.

[Cassi] I thought Millenials are
into having hair down there.

[Letty] I can't stand
being hairy. I think
I'll always have a bald--

[Cassi] Okay. Okay... I get it.

[Letty] I can't remember,
have you ever tasted pussy?

Okay, now you're just
trying to be shocking; and,
please don't use that word.

No, I'm sincerely wondering.

No! I haven't. Not interested.

I used to fuck around
with my cousin, Rita, when
we were in our early teens.

And, I only mention this
because, I tasted so much
sweeter back then;

and I think it's the same
for men's semen too.

Can we please talk
about anything else?

Do you think your mom has
ever shaved her vagina?

Cass, I'm joking! [laughing]

I think the biggest
reason I don't like being
in relationships

is because you also have
to date that person's family.

Yeah, I mean, it can be tricky.

Especially when for no
reason grounded in reality,

they suddenly decide
they don't like you.

But when you have lost as many
people in your family as I have,
it can also be a nice thing.

I guess.

I mean, I just never even
liked playing at other kids'
houses when I was a kid,

because suddenly you gotta
abide by someone else's rules.

Yeah, well, you don't have to
play exactly by their rules, you
just have to be mindful of them.

Nah. I hate rules.

Everybody hates rules.

Not everyone.

You know, I think my ideal
woman would be an
eighteen- year-old orphan

who just lost her entire family
and inherited a billion dollars.

[Letty] Does Oliver
ever get frustrated

with how inundated
the world is with amateur
filmmakers these days?

[Cassi] You've heard his rants.
It's beyond frustrating.

[Letty] Yeah, well, I think
it's brave of him that he's
still making a go of it.

It must be unnerving
knowing that everyone with a
cell phone or YouTube account

thinks of themselves
as an auteur.

[Cassi] He just doesn't
know what else he would do.

I mean, this is what he's
wanted since he was a kid.

He's very passionate about
it. It's all he knows.

And, I truly feel like the cream
rises to the top, so it's just
a matter of time for him.

[Letty] He's lucky to have had
your support all this time.

I mean, no offense, but I
too would have to be with
somebody financially endowed.

[Cassi] Wait, you know
Oliver has his own money and
you have plenty of your own.

[Letty] Yeah, but
I wouldn't want to have
to take care of them.

It would make me too resentful.

Plus, I would never date anyone
who was broke or in debt.

[Cassi] Yeah, I feel like that's
pretty hard to find nowadays,

but you definitely don't want to
marry somebody who's in debt.

But money isn't everything.

[Letty] Yeah, I just think
we're at the age now

where financial security
factors into love.

It's not just needing to be with
somebody at all costs, like it
feels when you're twenty-one.

I would have to know that if
necessary, this person could
take care of me financially.

Well, maybe when you're actually
ready to be in a relationship,

you could be Donald
Trump's fifth wife?

Fuck no! I'd rather have
Ivanka shit in my mouth

than touch his old, disgusting,
drooping, ginger balls.

Gross! Letty, come on.

I'll bet his pubic hair curls
over his dick like he fancies
that dead squirrel on his head.

[Cassi] I actually
have no comment.

[Max] Did I ever tell you
that I lost my virginity
to my step-sister?

[Oliver] At least
a hundred times.

[Max] Well, did I mention that
after our parents separated,
we tried dating for real?

[Oliver] No, I'd have
remembered that.

[Max] I don't know why
I only attract crazy girls.

[Oliver] Yeah, because
I told you: calm attracts calm
and crazy attracts crazy.

[Max] Yeah, well
I'd change my energy,
but crazy loves to fuck!

Anyway, I never felt that
weird, because, you know,
we weren't related,

and, I think outsiders
viewed it differently

'cause we did grow up together
since we were, like, ten.

[Oliver] Yeah, I'm pretty sure
anyone who is not on parole for
a lewd and lascivious sex act,

views all your
proclivities differently,
sexual or otherwise.

[Max] Actually, I ran into her
a few years ago, and believe
it or not, she apologized to me

for having had sex with her
at such a young age.

The only reason she was even
sexually aware to begin with

is because she was molested
by a family member about a year
before our parents had met.

-[Oliver] That's terrible.
-[Max] Yeah, I felt awful
for her. It's horrible.

[Oliver] You know, I was
molested when I was a kid.

[Max] You never told me
you were molested.

[Oliver] Yeah, well, I try
not to refer to it that way

out of respect for those
who were more
seriously affected.

[Max] Well, who did it?
Was it a baby sitter?
Was she hot at least?

[Oliver] No, it was a family
friend, and it wasn't a she.

-[Max] You were
molested by a guy?
-[Oliver] Sort of.

-[Max] What do you mean sort of?
-[Oliver] Look, I was
twelve, he was fifteen.

According to my shrink,
that's a clear molestation.

-[Max] Yeah, but...?
-[Oliver] I didn't think so
because I initiated it.

[Max] Ah, dude, you were
definitely molested. That
guy should have known better.

[Oliver] I suppose.

Dude, you sound like one
of those kidnap victims
with Stockholm syndrome.

No, I'm just saying--

Look, I know what you're
saying, okay? I got it, I
know what you're saying.

And you were definitely
molested. That guy
should have known better.

Yeah? Well, it happened.

Fuck. So did your
parents find out?

I told my mom but I begged
her not to tell my dad.

I was terrified he would
run down the street
and literally kill the guy.

So-- It's like so sick to me
how we feel the need to protect
those who harm us?

Yeah, you know,
the worst part is,

is that two weeks later
I tried to doing the same

thing to this foreign kid
I went to school with,
and he freaked out,

and I stopped before anything
happened -- I ran home crying.

And, I didn't know this then,
of course, but looking
back, hindsight what it is,

obviously that was an attempt
for me to take my power back.

Yeah, well, it must have
definitely affected you
more than you thought.

-Okay, can we talk about
something else?
-Yeah. Fine.

I think you should, uh,
write something other than
those little talkie-talks.

Like, maybe, maybe a horror
film, or something.

I write slice of life stuff.

Yeah, you write about yourself.

I write about what I am going
through. What's wrong with that?

There's nothing wrong
with that, but you, bro,

you're going on and on
about a film you're
thinking about writing,

that essentially centers around
your current life situation,

instead of focusing on what
you could be doing about
that situation in reality.

So, it's self-indulgent,
it's narcissistic,

uh, you're setting yourself up
for failure, and, you know,

worst part is you're
not even aware of it.

Well let's not forget about
the impending sense of doom
I feel on a daily basis?

Ah well, so what?
You're also depressive.

But, we've always
known that, you know?

Okay, you know what?
How's about a little silence
for a change?

Perfect.

I think you should take
some time, reflect on
what we just discussed,

really absorb it, you know?

-Yeah, I'd like to absorb
you in the East River.
-Hmm...

[Cassi] I feel like I'm not as
intelligent or as mentally
equipped as my parents were

at my age to make
significant decisions.

[Letty] I'm sure your parents
felt the same way
when they were your age.

[Cassi] I promise
you they didn't.

By the time they were
my age they were married,

working professionals,
who owned a house
and had two kids.

[Letty] Yeah? And, how'd
that turn out for them?

[Cassi] Point taken.
But, divorce aside,

I'm talking about
their individual, mental
capabilities to retain knowledge

and handle life-changing
decisions.

[Letty] Yeah, well, they
were post-war children,
they had to grow up faster.

And, I might add, it's because
of our parents' successes

that our generation
has been afforded a way
of life that lends itself,

or rather, actually imposes
self-reflection, and delays
our emotional growth.

[Cassi] In other words,
it's our parents' fault that
our generation is stupid?

[Letty] No, it's not a question
of intelligence. It's a question
of motivation, a lack of drive,

stemming from the
overbearing sense of being
too good for anything,

which is, in fact, their fault.

[Cassi] So, in other words,

because our parents
made us feel like we're
center of the universe,

it backfired and turned us
into spoiled, entitled brats.

[Letty] No, that would
be Millennials.

We're just late bloomers.
And it's not a question of our--
our mental capabilities.

[Cassi] I don't know.

I truly feel like will never be
as smart as my parents were.

[Letty] Yeah, well. I disagree.

[Cassi] What am I gonna do,
Letty? There's so much pressure
to make the right choice.

[Letty] Well maybe the fact
that it's a hard choice speaks
louder than you think?

[Cassi] But relationships
are hard.

[Letty] Yeah, but choosing to be
in one shouldn't be. Even
with tons of work to be done.

[Cassi] Well, unfortunately,
I don't think it can be
broken down that simply.

[Letty] Everything can be
reduced to basic human impulses.

[Cassi] Well, my impulse
says to stay with Oliver

and work on what we
have invested in over
the last five years.

-[Letty] Yeah, but to what end?
-[Cassi] Hopefully to no end.

[Letty] Yeah, but that doesn't
justify making a poor decision

when you have all of the
information ahead of time.

[Cassi] What's that
supposed to mean?

[Letty] It means that
blindfolding yourself is not
the same as being blind.

Cass, what are we doing?

[Cassi] We're going to get food.

[Letty] No, I know, but what
are we doing right now?
Why are we together?

Why are we wandering
around the city

when you should be sitting
with Oliver and talking
to him about all of this?

[Cassi] I told you, Oliver
and I needed space
to gain perspective.

[Letty] Okay, but you've been
apart for over two weeks.
That hasn't been enough?

[Cassi] If you're sick of
talking about this, just say so.

[Letty] Cass, that is so unfair.
I've been there for you
every step of the way.

I've sat up with you, cried
with you, laughed with you,

listened to everything
you've had to say...

[Cassi] But...?

[Letty] But you don't seem
to want to be in action.

You just want to talk, and not
even about what's important.

And, when you are in action, it
always seems counter-productive
to improving your dilemma.

[Cassi] Meaning?

[Letty] Meaning, you say
you want to work
on your relationship,

but instead you go on a date
with an ex-boyfriend.

[Cassi] It wasn't a date.

[Letty] Yeah, well, whatever
it was, it wasn't kosher.

[Cassi] How can you judge me?

[Letty] A, what your implying
is really fucked up,

and B, I'm not
judging you. I'm your best
friend; I love you. I'm just--

I'm trying to open
your fucking eyes.

[Cassi] Maybe
I don't want to see.

[Letty] Yeah, that's my point!

So why even bother
struggling with this shit?
Just fucking end it.

[Cassi] Why are you getting
so worked up?

[Letty] Because, I'm sick
of hearing about problems

you're not willing to work
toward a solution on. Especially
when it comes to relationships,

which I don't even believe in,
and it's always I who has
to convince you to stay.

[Cassi] Okay, relax. I'm sorry.

[Letty] No, it's really
frustrating, Cassi.

[Cassi] I know.
I said I'm sorry.

[Letty] Yeah, well you won't
work on it, so your apology
doesn't mean shit.

[Cassi] Okay. I'll
change. I hear you.

[Letty] And, knock
this shit off with Charlie.
Stop talking him to...

stop talking to him altogether.

[Cassi] All right,
I said I'll change.

Now, can you just stop talking
for a minute? I need to think.

[Letty] Yeah, that's my point:
stop thinking, go to Oliver.
Talk to him about all of this.

[Cassi] I don't know
what I've been doing.

[Letty] Self-preserving.

[Cassi] Thank you, Letty.

I love you.

[Letty] I love you too. Now, go.
Go, go, go. I'll be fine.

-[Cassi] Okay.
-[Letty] I love you.

[Cassi] I'm gonna
go to Brooklyn.

-[Letty] Okay.
-[Cassi] I'll text you later.

Love you.

[Letty exhales]

[Max] So why haven't you been
talking to your therapist
about all this Cassi stuff?

[Oliver] What are you
talking about?! Of course
I talk to her about this.

[Max] I don't know, it just
seems like you haven't
given it much thought.

[Oliver] Are you kidding me?
If anything, I've given it
too much thought.

-[Max] So then
where's the action?
-[Oliver] It's complicated,

there's a lot of pressure
to make the right move.

[Max] Yeah, but
is there a right move?

[Oliver] Obviously
there's a right move.

Otherwise there wouldn't
be so much pressure.

[Max] Yeah, but what if that
pressure could just be removed?

[Oliver] How do you mean?

I don't know. Maybe, you guys
agree to stay together and
you don't renew the lease,

but, you know, maybe
find someplace else to stay.

-[Oliver] No, no.
Definitely not in the cards.
-[Max] Why not?

[Oliver] Because, that's
not how it works when
you're in a relationship

and living together with
someone for five years.

-[Max] Yeah, but who's rules
are these? I mean, why?
-[Oliver] That's just how it is.

-Yeah, but who says?
I mean, why does it have to be?
-Be-- uh -- oh my god!

-Are you trying to fuck
with my patience?
-No.

No, I think you are.
I think you think if you
get under my skin

it's gonna cause me
to make a move in one
direction or another,

but, I'm telling you, Max,
it's not helpful and I
really wish you'd stop it.

Dude, I'm just trying to get
you to focus on your problems

and solve shit out
with Cassi. That's all.

How are you trying to get me
to focus? You haven't said
anything even remotely helpful.

Yeah, well, that's my style.

-What?
-Yeah, you know.

I get your attention
that's concentrated on
something else, okay?

And if the subject
you're fretting upon
is strong enough, okay,

it's gonna pull will pull you
back and make it undeniably
imperative to deal with.

Right, right. But how do you
explain what comes out of your
mouth the rest of the time?

You know what, man?
Fuck this shit.

I don't need to be hanging out
with friends who are ungrateful.

Come on -- you know I'm joking.

Yeah, but I'm not joking.
I'm not joking, man.

Listen, let me make
a blunt observation, okay?

-Please?
-Yeah, yeah, fine.

-Listen, I've known you a long
time, known you a long time.
-Yes.

And, I've never known
you to be happy.

What? No, that's not true.
I'm always generally happy.

Generally happy, yes,
but specifically happy, no.

That-- no, that doesn't
sound right.

Okay -- why...
why you here with me?

What are you talking about?
We said we're gonna hang out.

-Yes, I know, but why?
-To get lunch.

Okay, you're just not
getting it, okay?

You're on the verge of making
the greatest decision
of your life or a the worst one,

and you are not giving it
the respect and attention
it deserves.

No, that's not true.

It is -- it is true! Then
what are you even hanging
out with me for? Huh?

Go be with Cassi, go talk
this shit through with her.

I can't. We have
a no communication rule
until after five in effect.

So break the fucking rule,
man! Or go fi -- go find
her, go to her sister's

and go talk this
shit out with her.

[exhales]

Okay.

You're right, you're right.
I'm gonna go...

I'll go find Cassi, I'll go
to her sister's, and uh...

I'll talk this out with her,
I... I don't know -- But
we haven't ate lunch.

It's just-- Don't worry
about lunch, man. Just go.

-You sure?
-Yeah. Just go.

-You sure?
-Yeah. Go be with her.

Okay. Okay, thank you.

-You're welcome,
man. I love you.
-I love you too, dude.

I love you. Um...

Uh...

-That way.
-Yes. I'm gonna--
Okay. I'll call you later.

-Yeah, call me later.
-Thank you.

I love you, dude.
-I love you too. I --

Take care...

¶¶¶

[music ends]

[street sounds]

[subway approaching]

[distant announcements
over speaker]

-[Max] So, that's it?
-[Oliver] That's everything.

[Max] I don't understand.

-[Oliver] What don't
you understand?
-[Max] How that could be it.

[Oliver] That's all
there is to tell.

[Max] But nothing happened.

[Oliver] A lot happened.

[Max] So, what, do they renew
the lease, they stay together,
do they call it quits?

[Oliver] What do you think?

[Max] I think the film
is incomplete.

[Oliver] I told you,
it's a slice of life story.

[Max] So, that means you don't
finish it? You're a lazy writer.

[Oliver] That was the finish.

[Max] So, what... what
about the audience? How
are they supposed to take it?

[Oliver] What about the
audience?

[Max] How they supposed to
take it? Nothing was resolved.

[Oliver] I don't know.
I think a lot was resolved.

-[Max] So they stay together?
-[Oliver] It's whatever
you think.

[Max sighs]

What I think is no one
is going to watch this, okay?

What I think is, is you're never
going to find an audience if you
keep writing this type of stuff.

And furthermore, I think you
should focus on other genres

and stop writing
this drivel immediately.

Oh, you do?

Yeah, I think it's gonna be
better for everybody involved.

And, don't even get me
started on what the critics
are probably going to say.

You don't think they'll like it?

If they simply don't like it,
you're gonna be getting
away with murder.

Okay, that's a little extreme.

Oliver -- Oliver -- please...
Just, do not make this film.

-What?
-Okay, just--
just, promise me...

If I have any influence
over you, whatsoever,
please do not make this film.

Okay. Relax. I-- I promise...

I won't make this fi--

[man] Wanna shift?

-You're okay with that?
-[man 2] Okay...

-[man] Two second adjustment...
-Move?

-[man] Can you shift
to that one?
-[Letty] Yup.

[man] Still rolling.

-[Letty] This one?
-[man] Are you bored?

[man 2] Yeah, just a little
to the side. Yeah -- thanks.

First person that broke
my heart, which is
somebody I won't name...

Uh-- was the first person
I was ever engaged to...

I was definitely
in love with him.

And, man, I went psychotic--

Like, I probably would have
checked myself into a mental
institution if I knew better.

I still regret my freak- outs.
They were really bad.

Yeah, I think, because of that,
it brought a lot of fear for me,
absolutely, because...

nobody wants to be
brokenhearted, it sucks.

It's the worst pain ever.

I opened my heart one time,
so big, that, I gave
all my heart away,

and it just got
completely destroyed.

I don't think
I've ever recovered,
to be honest with you,

and, so, I think I go through
my life a little bit reserved

and I don't know if
I'm ever gonna be able
to open it up all the way,

'cause I don't know what--

I don't want that pain
to ever happen again,
to be honest with you.

it's just too much
for me to bear.

Uh, so -- I kind of approach
things a little bit gentler now,

and, with a little bit
of caution and pause, and...

maybe I'll meet the right
one, one day, and it'll like,

it'll happen again--
but I don't trust it--

it doesn't ever work out
for anybody that I know.

I'd never seen it really work
out, really for anybody, so...

why bother -- you know?
Save a little bit for myself.
That's the way I think.

[man] Why don't you think you--
you've had relationships
that have lasted?

I don't know.
I think I just didn't have
a good upbringing, maybe.

I mean, I feel like my
grandparents were too old
to teach me anything,

and I was too young to really
want to learn anything,

and they just -- they just
grew up in a different
generation, so...

Maybe that's what's
scaring me with
relationships? I'm not sure.

I do think Oliver is a good
long-term partner.

He's needed some...

Coaching every now
and then, but it's
been pretty worth it.

We've had our --
we've definitely had
our ups and downs,

but, I mean, we've
stayed together for five
years, so I think...

I think we can do it.

I know this can last, but do
I wanna just ride the wave
of being in the relationship?

So are we in this because
we're fearful of being alone?

Are we in this just because of
the security blanket the other
person gives the other person?

That sense of-- of,
uh, longevity, and umm...

such, or are we in this
because it's fulfilling,

and we're growing,
and umm, you know, uh...

and -- and it's enjoyable,
and it's what we want

and, and I think a lot of it
does come down to fear.

I think, you know a lot
of times you stay in a
relationship out of fear, and--

What do I think about
Oliver and Cassi?

I think it's a good thing --
I really do. I think it's a good
thing, because, Oliver's a mess,

you know, he's a mess
in general, but when
he's with her,

for some reason I've seen
him stabilize -- I've seen
him get, like, really grounded,

he gets productive,
he gets creative...

And, uh -- for whatever
reason, whatever universe
they're floating in together

without judgment, I think
it's a good thing for him.

So I'd like for him to get--
I'd like for him to stay
together, I really would.

I think it's a good thing.

[man] Do you like Cassi?

Do I like Cassi?

Hmm...

Yeah, I do.
I think she's a good person.
I think she's a good person,

she's struggling
like the rest of us.

We're all trying to make our way
through the world, and do the
best we can, you know? But...

yeah, in general, I think
she's a good person, she's a
sweetheart. I like her a lot.

I do, I think Oliver's
a decent guy. He's...

I think they're both not
perfect, in any way, and...

I think they both talk a lot
and complain a whole bunch,
and they're super similar

but all in all, they really
do love each other, and,

they can be pretty cute
together sometimes. [chuckles]

Could I see myself spending
the rest of my life with Oliver?

Yes.

And also, no. Um...

It's a very weird time
in our relationship.

And it's hard for me
to articulate why...

it -- it's gotten to the point
that it's gotten to, but...

I hope... I hope that he is.

Uh, my mom, uh,
was uh, a terrible alcoholic
when she was younger,

and she'd been sober many,
many years prior to her, uh,
passing away, but um...

she used to say to me
when I'd say, "How do you
stay sober twenty-five years?"

And she would say, uh, "You
know, you just don't drink."

And, umm, I feel
like that's basically
how it is with relationships.

So, can a relationship last for
twenty-five years? Absolutely.

Just don't get divorced.
Is it fulfilling? Is it--

you know, helping you
grow as a person? Uh,

not only in that relationship,
but on this planet,

and amongst your peers
and your family, and -- so,
I don't know, so... umm,

that's kind of a -- a hard
question to answer, just...

I mean the obvious
answer is yes,
relationships can last.

Um... Do you want it to?

I don't know.

You know, right now, I like

what I have with
Cassi, and um...

That's the problem
with relationships,

is it gets stale at
a point, but, that's up
to you guys to work on.

You know, it's like,
you both have to do
something to make it exciting.

Whether that's travel by
yourselves, watch porn,

add somebody in with you,
I don't know, whatever
works for you, I guess.

Whatever floats your boat.
But, try it, if you want to be
with somebody for a long time.

Absolutely.

-[man] So--
-Communication too.
That's huge.

I don't know that staying
in a relationship is...

guaranteeing that you're
having deeper meaning
in your life, or relationship.

But the more I'm learning about
relationships, I'm learning
that cheating is actual--

it's kind of a contract,
and I think it's different with
every-- every relationship.

To me, in my mind, cheating
is when I'm taking my sexual
energy, and my emotional energy,

and taking it outside
the relationship in any form,
to be honest with you,

and that means flirting,
to a certain extent,

you know, I know
inside when I'm across
the line, like, would this--

if this was seen by my
significant other, would she,
like, would this hurt her?

And if I could think that
and-- and say yes to
that, I think that's cheating.

I really do. I think most
women would agree.

I'm not most women,
but that's what I think.

The point you know, and
you consider what you're
doing is cheating, is, I think,

the second you get
that "uh-oh" feeling

and that's usually, like,
that feeling in your gut,

and I feel like that's usually--
even the second you text
or call someone else.

Or if someone else
is even serving as, like,

an emotional support
for you that your
boyfriend isn't, but it's

another male.
You know-- I think...

I think I got involved
with my ex-boyfriend,
Charlie, because...

I was looking for a way
out of my relationship
with Oliver in a way.

We've been having the same
conversations over
and over and over again

for the past five years,
and some things just
haven't changed and...

One of which, being the passion.

And, Charlie and I
just have always had a more
passionate relationship

if I compared the
two, that's what really
stood out, is, we just--

the sex was great. So...

and Oliver and I haven't
been sleeping together, so...

You know, that's a whole
other thing and that's
interesting to me too,

like, why stay in a relationship
after you know somebody is...
cheated or something,

I -- You know what?
Because... what
else is out there?

You got -- you got,
uh... a whole new set
up and all that stuff

and also it's an
opportunity to work on your
trust and growth and such.

And it's not so easy,
just throwing people
away, you know?

It's uh... uh...

And -- umm... you
know, we've lived together
for five years, so, um...

I don't know.
I don't know, uh...
where we're going exactly,

but I do know I am not
done with it yet.

That's the thing.
As much as I don't
want relationships,

and they scare the shit
out of me, I'd still like to
grow old with somebody.

How do you do that?
I don't know.

Obviously everyone wants
to feel love. But the older
I get, I feel like...

the financial security is way --
is... not way more important,

but it's definitely something
to consider, you know?

If I'm like, popping
out kids, and I can't
work for a little bit,

the other person has to
be able to support me

at least us, while we're--
while I'm, you know...

while it's like,
attached to my tit.

So, um...

I don't know. Ugh.

I guess, love.

Love, yeah.

Uh... Am I staying in this out
of convenience or fear?

Hopefully, those are not
the only two options.

I don't think, ultimately I'm
staying in it out of fear, uh...

I just think it's something I'm
not quite ready to let go of,
if that's the way it's gonna go.

Umm... and --
and I do think, just,
we deserve, uh...

You know -- to give
it a chance, to, uh,

see what's next.

All -- although, it is, um,
scary to think that we'd resign
this, you know, lease and--

and then, uh, have
a terrible fight in a--
a week, or a month, and

then we're locked into this--
you know, living together
and not wanting to. Um...

Which we've kind of been
in that place before
and I slept on the couch

but that's neither here
nor there, but it's--
it's just-- it's not fun,

uh, being in a tight quarter
with somebody you're going
through a rough time with. Um--

Do -- do I think I
wanna have kids ever?

No. No.

It's like, I don't wanna
pass on whatever fucked
up thing I might have

to any potential
offspring I have.

I don't think I could take care
of 'em the right way. I think
I'd be a fucked up father.

I know how to love,
and I love kids, but I'd
rather do it from a distance,

I don't even wanna
bring it in to the mix.

I don't want to subject
a kid to any of my bullshit.

I just don't.

I think Oliver would
be a really great dad.

I just don't think he thinks
he would be a great dad.

And that's the sad part
because-- I mean, we've
talked about having kids, and...

I think the thought of him
having to be responsible
for a human life

freaks him out
a little bit. And...

he's definitely had
his share of pregnancy
scares, with other people.

So, he's considered it, but--

Do I think Cassi and I want
the same thing? Um...

Well, we want different things
out of our, you know, like,

personal lives, it seems
sometimes but, uh... but--

but in a relationship, I think
we want the same thing.

I think we're both
looking for a significant
other who wants

to make the other laugh,
and, you know, enjoy interesting
conversations and films,

and, at times,

she gets a little bored

and then I get complacent,

and then we forget
and lose touch with what
we actually want, and,

uh, it's hard to see that
we want the same thing, but...

I think, ultimately, um, we do.
And, I think that the
fact that we're even

trying to figure this out
so hard, whether or not
we should stay together

is proof that we do pretty much
want the same thing, it's just--

Yeah, I don't know.
I -- that's not such an--

I'm -- I'm not sure I can
answer that question. So...

No, no, you know what? I don't.

I don't. I think I am some days
and I think I'm not other days,

you know, like,
maybe two days ago

I was -- I was
a raging narcissist.

I didn't give a fuck
about people in my life,

I didn't give a fuck
about my family, I didn't
even give a fuck about--

people that I care about.

But, you know, the fact
that I even feel anything...

the fact that I give a fuck
about any of it, makes me feel
like, no, I'm not a narcissist,

'cause I care. I ca-- I care...

So, no, I'm not a narcissist.

Fuck, man.

To me a narcissist is someone
whose entire universe

and life and every
waking thought kinda
revolves around them.

I honestly don't think
I am a narcissist,
uh, straightforward.

I think we all have
narcissistic qualities,
uh, especially nowadays

with the advent of, like,
um, social medias,
and-- and, like, you know.

All-- all of the--
I mean, the selfie alone
is like, a pure, uh,

kind of, you know, extension
of narcissism, I feel.

Um, I have times when I think,

uh, I don't give a shit
what happens to,
you know, A, B, and C,

I've gotta get this
thing done for me,

because this is my dream
and this is what I'm doing

and fuck you if you're
not on board and...

You know, those
kind of things, um...

But it's a tricky question
because, I think--

and that's one of the
things that I was trying
to do in making this film

was -- I want people to
think about those things,

I want people
to think about where,

uh, they've been more selfish,
or less selfish, and...

and how do you relate
to what these characters
are going through?

I think Oliver is a narcissist
to a certain degree,

but I think we're all
narcissists in some way.

I mean, you have to be
in order to survive, right?

That's... you know --

narcissism is kind of what
keeps us alive, in a way.

I don't think he's a hundred
percent one, but...

I think... that...

he's definitely...

He needs to grow
up a little bit.

I'm, uh, Oliver, and I'm the
writer, director of the film.

I made this film, because--
Well, I mean, as a writer,

and a filmmaker,
you know, I'm always
looking for my next, um,

story to tell, of course, and--
and always working out
a new narrative,

and something that interests me.
You know, I really wanted
to explore subjects, uh,

and, um, themes that were, um...

accurate and current
to what my, uh peer groups
and friends actually discuss,

things that we would talk about,
things that we do talk about.

Hopefully entertaining,
to a degree.

Hopefully interesting. Might
spark some conversation
to anybody who watches it,

afterwards, to uh,
maybe debate some
subjects, or whatnot.

I mean, I guess I'm the
same as the person that
I wrote about in this film.

Was that the question?
Am I the same as the
person I wrote about?

I think, yes,
I am the character.

I think, maybe I
exemplify some flaws, or,

uh, exaggerated
some characteristics
of certain characters, but...

This is the first film
where I named the
character the same name,

uh, that I have, Oliver, so...
I've never done that before.

Usually, I, you know, choose
some name that I've--
You know, and not only that,

I named the other characters
the same. I really think I was
trying to capture, uh, um,

something real.

Who are the other people?
Well, okay, so, uh...

They are my confidants, uh, my

you know, pool of friends
who ground me.

Um, people who make me
feel safe and secure,
who I bounce my ideas off of

who challenge me on my belief
systems, and-- and, uh,
the ways I think, and, uh...

you know, kind of hold
me up to be, umm,
to a higher standard,

to be the best version
of Oliver that I can be.

[man] What is your goal
with the project?

Oh, back to the film.

Well, as a filmmaker, your--
The goal is to make the film
and to make the next film, so.

The film goal for this is to
just get it done, get it out
there, find its audience,

and hopefully, uh,
find the people or person

who likes it enough to wanna
help me make my next film,

because the goal
is to, you know, always
be making another film.

There's a lot of reasons to
make it for very little money.

Um, we made this one
for next to nothing, and the--
the point with that was,

A, total control, B,
go anywhere you want,
shoot anything you want--

We have almost no, you know,
no crew, no overhead,
we keep it very, um...

stripped down to the bone.

And, uh, that allows for a,
great artistic freedom, and um,

I think nowadays, um,
quantity equals quality.

Not in the sense
that if you do more
it's automatically better,

but in the sense that more
is better, in this day and age.

It helps you get seen more,

uh, people like to see that
you've done more, um, and--

and, I do think, though, that
it is true, that the more
you do, the better you get.

So if you're -- if you have
no talent, and you're
never gonna be great,

even your, you know,
whatever's your best, is gonna
improve by doing more.

Because you'll be quicker
at it, even if it's
quicker at being bad,

and more efficient at being bad,
or whatever it is that you're
doing poorly, you know,

you'll be able to do it better.

Um, and if you do have talent,
and you have some sort
of growth going on,

then it-- more will help
you improve there.

So it's not...

It-- it's -- but what I'm not
saying is, just by having
more, you're better,

but, in this day and age,
in this environment
that we-- that we, uh--

uh, are-- are in, in this
atmosphere of filmmaking,
I do believe that, uh,

more is better, and
to have more to show...

And, I also believe
that work begets work,

and I don't like to sit
around and wait, so, some
films I make for more money,

and then other films
I make for no money

because I just, have to make
the next one, but, um...

That's really why we made
this one, for no money,

uh-- or not no money, but
very little money, and, uh--

it-- again, it really allows us
to, or myself to express,

wholeheartedly, um,
what I want to express, um...

Yeah. Uh, also,
you know, it's...

This film was-- was fun
because, uh, it-- it,
the -- New York plays,

you know, not just as big a
character as the characters in
the film, it often plays bigger.

You know, uh.

There was a lot of New York
in this, and that was very
exciting to me, and uh...

You can't just do that with--
with a bigger budget,

and where you're, um,
beholden to investors
and such, so... Um...

Uh, again, it's freedom--
really it's freedom.

And to continue working, uh--

uh, so that maybe my work
will help me get more
work, so-- yeah...

Anyway, umm, are we done? Can--

Can I go? I kind of have to,

I got a thing with a guy
and uh... doodle...

Alright. Thank you.

Cut.

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