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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:20,230 --> 00:00:23,130 Believe me, no one had ever seen anything like them before. 2 00:00:27,650 --> 00:00:33,210 The best story ever. And there's something about them that I think speaks 3 00:00:33,210 --> 00:00:34,210 everybody. 4 00:00:34,330 --> 00:00:35,710 Okay, I made that bit up. 5 00:00:36,870 --> 00:00:38,690 I want to know as much as possible. 6 00:00:39,170 --> 00:00:41,250 The more you learn, the more interested you get. 7 00:00:41,510 --> 00:00:43,830 The information is so entertaining. 8 00:00:44,150 --> 00:00:45,150 That's his gift. 9 00:00:45,730 --> 00:00:46,730 Thank you. 10 00:00:52,750 --> 00:00:54,370 to a podcast from the Word. 11 00:00:54,570 --> 00:00:59,750 Our special guest is old friend of the pod, world Beatles expert, Mark Lewis. 12 00:00:59,850 --> 00:01:03,950 Mark, delightful to see you. Thank you, David. Thank you, Mark. Hi, both of you. 13 00:01:04,030 --> 00:01:07,170 So tell us about these shows that you're doing in October. 14 00:01:07,730 --> 00:01:12,370 What I've done is curate a show with short stories all about the year 1962. 15 00:01:13,230 --> 00:01:17,650 You know, I've researched all this stuff. For 40 years, I've been gathering 16 00:01:17,650 --> 00:01:18,650 of the Beatles. 17 00:01:18,950 --> 00:01:23,550 And I've looked in places that no one else has ever been. And I have a 18 00:01:23,570 --> 00:01:28,110 amazing haul of stuff that needs to be seen and needs to be enjoyed by people. 19 00:01:29,020 --> 00:01:33,100 It's my pleasure to put it all into a show and take it around theatres and 20 00:01:33,100 --> 00:01:37,060 it to people. Let people see them, let people enjoy them, and let me tell the 21 00:01:37,060 --> 00:01:39,460 story of The Beatles through the things that I've found. 22 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:44,580 Fantastic. I want to know, The Beatles' story is so kind of familiar. 23 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:49,440 As soon as somebody dangles a little bit that's unfamiliar, you go, oh, my 24 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:52,820 goodness. This changes my perception of this. 25 00:01:53,390 --> 00:01:58,010 What my job is to find as much information and accurate information 26 00:01:58,010 --> 00:02:02,810 happened as possible and I'm surrounded by the fruit of more than 40 years of 27 00:02:02,810 --> 00:02:03,850 that kind of gathering. 28 00:02:04,090 --> 00:02:09,889 I mean I wasn't present at the events but my job is to set down what happened 29 00:02:09,889 --> 00:02:14,750 if I was there just by using the information that was actually set down 30 00:02:14,750 --> 00:02:16,930 time to illuminate. 31 00:02:17,460 --> 00:02:22,100 in the reader's mind exactly what happened and to entertain them and to 32 00:02:22,100 --> 00:02:23,640 them into the heart of the action. 33 00:02:23,980 --> 00:02:28,580 There are very few things in life that can actually give you a proper emotional 34 00:02:28,580 --> 00:02:35,380 lift and I think the Beatles are number one on that list. The sheer joy of the 35 00:02:35,380 --> 00:02:40,760 way they did things, the humour of it, the intelligence of it, the wit of it. 36 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:43,800 It's just something that still resonates through the decades. 37 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:49,220 And I can think of nothing better than the Beatles to actually make mankind 38 00:02:49,220 --> 00:02:53,520 a bit better about itself. And we really do need that at the moment. We need the 39 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:55,800 Beatles. We need the Beatles. We really need the Beatles. 40 00:02:56,140 --> 00:02:57,400 On the hour, every hour. 41 00:02:57,620 --> 00:02:58,620 Exactly. 42 00:02:59,060 --> 00:03:02,900 For me to immerse myself in the Beatles on a daily basis is fantastic. 43 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:04,920 I've got the best job in the world. 44 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:09,140 Absolutely. Well, look, we look forward to it, Mark. I'm sure many people look 45 00:03:09,140 --> 00:03:10,140 forward to it. 46 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:13,280 Thank you very much, David. Thank you very much, Mark. I will see you at the 47 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:14,280 show. Absolutely. 48 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:15,520 We'll be there. 49 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:19,840 Thank you. 50 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:24,660 We're here to talk about these guys. 51 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:30,300 The thing is, people tend to think of the Beatles with beards and moustaches, 52 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:34,640 the kind of post -revolver Beatles, as being the hip Beatles, the Beatles who 53 00:03:34,640 --> 00:03:36,100 really had their act together. 54 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:39,960 But what I'm here to show you tonight is that they were always like that. You 55 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:43,620 don't just suddenly become interesting in 1966, 67. 56 00:03:43,860 --> 00:03:45,020 They were always interesting. 57 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:48,540 They were always different. They were always original. They were always 58 00:03:48,540 --> 00:03:52,540 to stick to what they wanted to do and not be guided by the rules that anybody 59 00:03:52,540 --> 00:03:53,600 else was setting down. 60 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:58,020 Here they are, John Lennon, Paul McCartney. George Harrison, Pete Best, 61 00:03:58,020 --> 00:04:01,180 Epstein, their manager, and Ringo, who is the beetle in the wings. 62 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:04,820 Not yet a beetle, but he's going to become one during the year I'm talking 63 00:04:04,820 --> 00:04:06,560 about. How young they are. 64 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:08,620 John started all this. He's now 21. 65 00:04:09,220 --> 00:04:12,520 Paul is 19. George, 18, always the youngest. 66 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:13,980 Pete, 20. 67 00:04:14,580 --> 00:04:18,100 Brian, who seems so old compared to the beetles, 27. 68 00:04:19,100 --> 00:04:22,400 And Ringo, 21 years old, about the same age as John. 69 00:04:23,260 --> 00:04:24,340 They live in Liverpool. 70 00:04:25,130 --> 00:04:28,190 Pete lives in the north end. The others all lived in the south end of Liverpool. 71 00:04:28,550 --> 00:04:33,430 And at the beginning of the year, the 1st of January 1962, Ringo is not there. 72 00:04:33,790 --> 00:04:37,710 He's gone off to Hamburg to play in the house band at the Top Ten Club. 73 00:04:38,350 --> 00:04:44,510 And the others are down in London. No expense spared in the animation of this 74 00:04:44,510 --> 00:04:45,510 show, ladies and gentlemen. 75 00:04:46,190 --> 00:04:49,590 Now, why the heck are they down in London? Well, they're down in London to 76 00:04:49,590 --> 00:04:54,450 test for Decca Records. Christmas 1961, the Beatles' new manager, Brian Epstein, 77 00:04:54,670 --> 00:04:58,450 doesn't yet have a contract, but he's utterly devoted to making them 78 00:04:58,770 --> 00:05:03,830 gives each of them this alarm clock with a little card, my little bit, to get 79 00:05:03,830 --> 00:05:08,870 you all on in time because they had a very poor reputation for punctuality. 80 00:05:09,630 --> 00:05:13,250 So he's saying to them, you're going to be more punctual from now on like he 81 00:05:13,250 --> 00:05:18,450 was. But also it's a travel alarm clock because his intent for the Beatles is to 82 00:05:18,450 --> 00:05:21,750 get them beyond the glass ceiling of Liverpool where they're already at the 83 00:05:21,750 --> 00:05:27,030 and make them national stars and maybe even international stars as well. He's 84 00:05:27,030 --> 00:05:30,710 already told them that he thinks they can be bigger than Elvis Presley. And 85 00:05:30,710 --> 00:05:35,190 would have been an extremely unlikely thing to be possible at that time. 86 00:05:35,940 --> 00:05:39,960 So my little bit to get you all on in time, says Brian, and gives them the 87 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:45,200 clock. And the very first time they use the clock is here at the Royal Hotel on 88 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:50,820 Woburn Place, just around the corner from here. They spend New Year's Eve 89 00:05:50,820 --> 00:05:56,080 and wake up on New Year's Day 1962 here to this sound. 90 00:06:00,380 --> 00:06:03,460 And I've got to tell you, such are the lengths I've gone to for this show. That 91 00:06:03,460 --> 00:06:04,780 is the actual clock. 92 00:06:05,860 --> 00:06:07,080 Recorded with my phone. 93 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:11,800 Thank you. 94 00:06:12,810 --> 00:06:17,130 There are no photos of the Beatles at their Decca test, but here they are just 95 00:06:17,130 --> 00:06:21,070 two weeks before. So they look like this in their leathers, which they love to 96 00:06:21,070 --> 00:06:22,830 wear. They've been wearing these for about six months. 97 00:06:23,170 --> 00:06:27,390 George, Pete, Paul, and John in a photo session in Liverpool that Brian Epstein 98 00:06:27,390 --> 00:06:29,090 organized in December 61. 99 00:06:29,510 --> 00:06:33,350 And they come to Decca full of hope, A, because they've already been seen by 100 00:06:33,350 --> 00:06:38,250 Mike Smith, the A &R man. He's seen them in the cavern, likes them, and says, I 101 00:06:38,250 --> 00:06:41,870 just want you to test in the studio to see how you are in those kind of 102 00:06:41,870 --> 00:06:47,030 conditions. And Decca has a talent drive at this very time. They are looking to 103 00:06:47,030 --> 00:06:51,110 sign new British talent. So you'd think, well, there's a gimme. They're going to 104 00:06:51,110 --> 00:06:55,010 sign the Beatles, right? Because the Beatles are clearly very, very good and 105 00:06:55,010 --> 00:06:56,010 original and interesting. 106 00:06:56,210 --> 00:07:01,330 So this is where they are on New Year's Day 1962 when the year begins. 107 00:07:01,630 --> 00:07:05,090 This was the recording studio of the Decca Record Company. 108 00:07:05,490 --> 00:07:07,110 So they parked the van here. 109 00:07:07,850 --> 00:07:12,030 and began to load the gear in, and the uniformed commissionaires were, whoa, 110 00:07:12,050 --> 00:07:13,830 whoa, whoa, lads, round the back. 111 00:07:14,070 --> 00:07:18,110 Paul McCartney told me once what the terrible ignominy of being sent round to 112 00:07:18,110 --> 00:07:21,050 the tradesman's entrance around the back. He never forgot it. 113 00:07:22,350 --> 00:07:26,230 So this is the back entrance of Decca. The Beatles brought their stuff in here, 114 00:07:26,350 --> 00:07:32,150 and they did quite a long test. Fifteen songs were committed to tape, and what 115 00:07:32,150 --> 00:07:36,430 it tells us is that the Beatles were a white -hot band in Liverpool, but for 116 00:07:36,430 --> 00:07:40,530 reason or another, they didn't test particularly well that day. They were 117 00:07:40,530 --> 00:07:43,110 to be not really worthy of being signed. 118 00:07:43,550 --> 00:07:46,650 The story always went down that Decca turned the Beatles down. 119 00:07:47,310 --> 00:07:52,170 And Dick Rowe went to his grave as the man who turned down the Beatles, which 120 00:07:52,170 --> 00:07:56,950 wasn't that untrue in as much as he hadn't wanted to sign them. In fact, 121 00:07:56,950 --> 00:08:00,770 was doing the research for my book, I was stunned to find that they actually 122 00:08:00,770 --> 00:08:04,430 been offered a contract, but on the wrong terms, on terms that Brian Epstein 123 00:08:04,430 --> 00:08:08,090 didn't want to accept. They would have to pay for their own recordings and pay 124 00:08:08,090 --> 00:08:12,070 for pressing, and Brian wanted them to be signed as pucker -decker artists. 125 00:08:12,910 --> 00:08:16,310 So the Decker thing came to nothing and after that there was a lot of head 126 00:08:16,310 --> 00:08:19,390 scratching because, you know, where else are they going to go? 127 00:08:19,710 --> 00:08:24,470 EMI had already turned down the Beatles on the basis of a record that they had 128 00:08:24,470 --> 00:08:27,070 made and so things looked a bit bleak for them. 129 00:08:27,790 --> 00:08:32,850 So the next item is the Mersey Beat newspaper had a poll. Now, Liverpool has 130 00:08:32,850 --> 00:08:36,669 thriving rock and roll scene. It's the only place in the world where groups can 131 00:08:36,669 --> 00:08:40,570 turn professional because there's enough places for them to play to earn a 132 00:08:40,570 --> 00:08:43,370 proper living and they don't need day jobs. And the Beatles are professional. 133 00:08:43,929 --> 00:08:47,630 And it has its own newspaper, that scene, called Mersey Beat. 134 00:08:47,910 --> 00:08:52,150 And it started in July 61. They've got a reader's poll. Who's the best actor 135 00:08:52,150 --> 00:08:55,090 around? And, of course, the Beatles win it. I think they were nervous that they 136 00:08:55,090 --> 00:08:58,830 might not win it, but they did win it because they... were easily the biggest 137 00:08:58,830 --> 00:09:00,230 group in Liverpool in 1961. 138 00:09:01,150 --> 00:09:05,010 And they've got a record out. Now, they're chasing a contract for 139 00:09:05,030 --> 00:09:10,450 but what this is is the British release of a record they made in Germany in 61 140 00:09:10,450 --> 00:09:12,310 with Tony Sheridan, my Bonnie. 141 00:09:12,830 --> 00:09:17,730 And I do a lot of research in local newspapers when I'm writing my books. 142 00:09:17,730 --> 00:09:21,950 the Liverpool Weekly News, which is the local paper for the south end of 143 00:09:21,950 --> 00:09:26,010 Liverpool, I found an article about them at the time of the release of this 144 00:09:26,010 --> 00:09:31,080 record. they are hoping for a hit record it says which is rather sweet for the 145 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:35,060 very first Beatles piece in a newspaper I think they did end up with a hit 146 00:09:35,060 --> 00:09:36,060 record or two 147 00:09:36,970 --> 00:09:41,050 This is the first management contract between Brian Epstein and the Beatles. 148 00:09:41,050 --> 00:09:45,770 first sees them in November 61 in the cavern. He begins working on their 149 00:09:45,770 --> 00:09:50,430 immediately, but he does need to have a contract with them. And that is his 150 00:09:50,430 --> 00:09:54,030 handwriting on the front there, the date of the contract. And it's between Brian 151 00:09:54,030 --> 00:09:59,730 Epstein, John Winston Lennon, George Harrison, James Paul McCartney, and 152 00:09:59,730 --> 00:10:00,830 Randolph Best. 153 00:10:01,250 --> 00:10:04,630 Alistair Taylor, Brian's assistant, has witnessed all those signatures. 154 00:10:05,500 --> 00:10:09,600 including one that's missing. Brian Epstein never signed his own management 155 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:14,120 contract with the Beatles. Now, why on earth did he do that? The truth is he 156 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:17,580 didn't want to tie them down. He was going to give the Beatles his very best 157 00:10:17,580 --> 00:10:22,380 shot, which was extremely impressive, but if he was unable to make them a 158 00:10:22,380 --> 00:10:24,200 success, he was giving them a way out. 159 00:10:24,540 --> 00:10:29,180 most managers will tie their artist their client down to a contract much 160 00:10:29,180 --> 00:10:34,480 rigid in his favor than it is in theirs but brian is deliberately weakening his 161 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:38,500 own contract with the beatles and in fact he did it in another way as well 162 00:10:38,500 --> 00:10:42,080 because i found this draft of the contract and quite correctly 163 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:47,660 Because Paul and George and Pete were all under 21, minors in the eyes of the 164 00:10:47,660 --> 00:10:52,600 law, it has the accommodation for their fathers to sign the contract as well, 165 00:10:52,700 --> 00:10:54,240 which was what you had to do. 166 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:57,600 But this is only the draft of the contract. If we go back... 167 00:10:58,060 --> 00:11:00,940 For the finished contract, the parents have been taken out. 168 00:11:01,340 --> 00:11:06,580 Against the solicitor's advice, Brian has deliberately removed the parents 169 00:11:06,580 --> 00:11:10,560 the contract, making it completely invalid, still giving the Beatles the 170 00:11:10,560 --> 00:11:14,460 impression that they've signed a valid contract, but weakening it so that it's 171 00:11:14,460 --> 00:11:17,340 basically not worth the paper that it's printed on. 172 00:11:18,300 --> 00:11:19,960 This is called needle time. 173 00:11:20,560 --> 00:11:24,420 Probably most people in this room, because most people in life, it seems to 174 00:11:24,460 --> 00:11:28,020 go around saying the BBC was rubbish about playing pop music. 175 00:11:28,260 --> 00:11:31,320 They hardly ever played any pop. And if you wanted to hear it, you'd have to 176 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:36,080 listen to Radio Luxembourg and eventually from 1964 -65, the pirate 177 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:39,980 stations. Those people who have ever said that don't know about a thing 178 00:11:39,980 --> 00:11:40,980 needle time. 179 00:11:41,300 --> 00:11:46,840 Now, needle time was a restriction on the BBC allowing them to play a maximum 180 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:49,580 28 hours of recorded music per week. 181 00:11:49,870 --> 00:11:55,230 which in a seven -day week, and most of them are seven days, is four hours a day 182 00:11:55,230 --> 00:11:59,990 across the home service, the light program, and the classical network, the 183 00:11:59,990 --> 00:12:03,790 program. And they couldn't play anymore because all professional musicians had 184 00:12:03,790 --> 00:12:05,690 to be in the musicians' union. 185 00:12:06,510 --> 00:12:11,730 And the MU said to the record companies, if you allow the BBC to play any more 186 00:12:11,730 --> 00:12:17,010 than four hours of music per day, then we're not going to allow our musicians 187 00:12:17,010 --> 00:12:22,010 to make any records for you. So the record companies had no choice but to 188 00:12:22,010 --> 00:12:28,370 the BBC played only four hours of music a day. And that is why pop music was in 189 00:12:28,370 --> 00:12:32,230 such short supply on the BBC in those days. 190 00:12:32,470 --> 00:12:37,150 Now, the consequence of this was that the BBC did a lot... of live sessions. 191 00:12:37,550 --> 00:12:39,050 They have musicians in the studios. 192 00:12:39,370 --> 00:12:45,710 And so Brian Epstein typed an application for an audition to appear on 193 00:12:45,710 --> 00:12:50,830 Radio. Such a stylish man. This is such an immaculate form with his flourish 194 00:12:50,830 --> 00:12:55,090 signature at the end of it there. And the result was the Beatles had an 195 00:12:55,090 --> 00:13:00,110 at the Playhouse Theatre in Hume, Manchester, and they passed the 196 00:13:00,390 --> 00:13:04,450 So while they're still hoping to get a recording contract, they're broadcasting 197 00:13:04,450 --> 00:13:06,410 on the radio, national radio. 198 00:13:06,830 --> 00:13:10,890 And here they make their debut in a program from Manchester called Here We 199 00:13:10,890 --> 00:13:14,110 with the NDO, the Northern Dance Orchestra. 200 00:13:14,690 --> 00:13:19,570 That's the Beatles on the 8th of March 1962. They are now a broadcasting act. 201 00:13:20,350 --> 00:13:25,610 In their first show, they do this song, among two others, Please, Mr. Postman by 202 00:13:25,610 --> 00:13:26,610 the Marvelettes. 203 00:13:26,990 --> 00:13:31,850 a record from tamla the record label from detroit also known as motown they 204 00:13:31,850 --> 00:13:35,570 didn't know it was a tamla record in britain it was on the fontana label and 205 00:13:35,570 --> 00:13:40,170 didn't mention tamla anywhere but when i was researching my book tune in i 206 00:13:40,170 --> 00:13:44,050 thought i wonder if anybody else before the beatles had ever played a tamla 207 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:48,700 Motown song, or whether a Tamla record had ever been played on British radio. 208 00:13:49,020 --> 00:13:54,700 So I spent a day peering into microfilm, excruciating work, really hard on the 209 00:13:54,700 --> 00:14:00,160 eyes, going back from March 62, going back through the daily program logs at 210 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:04,960 BBC archive out in Berkshire, hoping that I wouldn't find it, and indeed I 211 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:07,020 didn't find any prior example. 212 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:11,860 So maybe I missed one, but I think it's more likely that the very first exposure 213 00:14:11,860 --> 00:14:16,580 of a Tamla song on British radio British radio was by the Beatles, who wouldn't 214 00:14:16,580 --> 00:14:19,660 have known that at the time, but it's a lovely thing to discover now. 215 00:14:20,380 --> 00:14:25,560 Here are the British A &R men in 1962, the kind of guys who are turning down 216 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:26,560 Beatles. 217 00:14:26,940 --> 00:14:30,000 The man on the right is the guy who gets all the stick, Dick Rowe. 218 00:14:30,220 --> 00:14:34,140 Also in this picture, third left, the youngest A &R man in London, George 219 00:14:34,140 --> 00:14:36,540 Martin. He's running Parlophone Records. 220 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:41,740 But these are the guys who are signing acts for teenagers to dance to at youth 221 00:14:41,740 --> 00:14:46,420 clubs and dances and whatever in ballrooms. They clearly have no real 222 00:14:46,420 --> 00:14:51,040 what a teenager wants. Their own personal tastes are rooted decades 223 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:53,480 They all served in the war. They're old men. 224 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:58,320 But these are the guys who are setting the... trends if you like or signing 225 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:04,220 for teenagers to listen to and it just isn't going to work decker did sign 226 00:15:04,220 --> 00:15:08,220 pool and the tremolos instead of the beatles that's brian pool at the front 227 00:15:08,220 --> 00:15:13,580 pair of heavy glasses and he was signed by this man mike smith at decker and 228 00:15:13,580 --> 00:15:19,620 they met in the optician shop and mike smith also signed at this time buddy 229 00:15:19,620 --> 00:15:20,620 britain 230 00:15:22,540 --> 00:15:26,640 Buddy Britton wasn't his real name. He was named after this man, Buddy Holly, 231 00:15:26,940 --> 00:15:32,760 who was dead three years, but still a very popular act in Britain. This is the 232 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:37,700 cover of Hit Parade magazine from February 1962, so it's right in the 233 00:15:37,700 --> 00:15:41,820 frame. And, of course, everybody knew and liked Hank Marvin, the lead 234 00:15:41,820 --> 00:15:47,700 in The Shadows. So my thinking is that had John Lennon worn his glasses... 235 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:52,580 At the Beatles' Decca test, then maybe the Beatles would have been offered a 236 00:15:52,580 --> 00:15:54,240 proper contract by Decca. 237 00:15:54,890 --> 00:15:58,890 Though the Beatles didn't sign for Decca, Brian Epstein ended up with the 238 00:15:58,890 --> 00:16:03,230 and he's starting to hawk this around the other record labels in London in the 239 00:16:03,230 --> 00:16:06,890 hope that one of them will sign the Beatles. They can't keep coming down to 240 00:16:06,890 --> 00:16:08,470 tests. This tape is okay. 241 00:16:08,910 --> 00:16:13,050 It's enough with the pictures he's showing them and evidence of how popular 242 00:16:13,050 --> 00:16:16,730 are. And he takes it around the record companies. And what he actually does is 243 00:16:16,730 --> 00:16:22,430 goes and gets an acetate disc struck of the tape or some of the songs on the 244 00:16:22,430 --> 00:16:24,090 tape at his master's voice. 245 00:16:24,460 --> 00:16:26,840 great record shop on Oxford Street here in London. 246 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:31,600 And here is one of the discs. It's a two -sided record. This surfaced about 10 247 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:32,600 years ago. 248 00:16:32,620 --> 00:16:34,200 Fantastic artifact. 249 00:16:34,500 --> 00:16:38,500 Hello Little Girl on one side and Till There Was You on the other. And that is 250 00:16:38,500 --> 00:16:41,100 Brian Epstein's handwriting that you see on the labels. 251 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:45,220 And he's using these and the other songs to try and get them a contract. 252 00:16:46,250 --> 00:16:50,450 In the same building was a music publishing company called Ardmore and 253 00:16:50,450 --> 00:16:55,570 Beachwood, which was owned by EMI, as indeed was the shop. HMV was EMI 254 00:16:56,350 --> 00:17:00,250 And he goes up there and he meets these two people. 255 00:17:00,510 --> 00:17:04,950 Sid Coleman on the left, he runs Ardmore and Beachwood. And the record plugger, 256 00:17:04,950 --> 00:17:09,849 or song plugger, I should say, Kim Bennett on the right. Now, they really 257 00:17:09,849 --> 00:17:13,349 the original songs of Lennon and McCartney that were on that tape. There 258 00:17:13,349 --> 00:17:14,349 three of them. 259 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:17,599 But Brian said, it's all very well. I mean, I'd like these songs published as 260 00:17:17,599 --> 00:17:21,079 well, but what I really am looking for is a recording contract for my group. 261 00:17:21,180 --> 00:17:24,079 Well, Ardmore and Beachwood didn't have the ability to give them a recording 262 00:17:24,079 --> 00:17:27,300 contract, but they would try and see what they could do, and they began to 263 00:17:27,300 --> 00:17:32,680 agitate within EMI for the Beatles to be given a recording contract so that they 264 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:34,280 could get the publishing on the songs. 265 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:38,500 I'm going to come back to these gentlemen later, particularly Kim 266 00:17:38,500 --> 00:17:41,180 this time, Brian Epstein meets George Martin. 267 00:17:41,620 --> 00:17:46,120 He is head of A &R at the EMI. my record label Parlophone but George Martin 268 00:17:46,120 --> 00:17:50,880 doesn't like what he hears of the Beatles on their Decca test he passes on 269 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:55,460 and he drops out of the story now for about three months later on he's going 270 00:17:55,460 --> 00:17:59,980 re -enter the story in dramatic circumstances but for now he's not 271 00:17:59,980 --> 00:18:04,140 and that seems to be the end of that Now, we've been talking about all the 272 00:18:04,140 --> 00:18:07,360 others. What about Ringo? Haven't really talked about him yet. As we saw at the 273 00:18:07,360 --> 00:18:12,320 beginning, he went off to play at the Top Ten Club in Hamburg, and he's got 274 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:15,020 himself a German phrasebook and written his name on the inside. 275 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:19,080 Handy for chatting up girls, no doubt. I'm ordering a drink at the bar. 276 00:18:19,900 --> 00:18:24,460 It's a good life as a musician in Hamburg, and there he is, behind Tony 277 00:18:24,460 --> 00:18:28,080 Sheridan, Colin Melander, and Roy Young, proper pro musicians. 278 00:18:28,500 --> 00:18:33,160 The thing about Ringo that was consistent from 1957 on, onwards was 279 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:37,780 best musicians always wanted him as their drummer he was always in the 280 00:18:37,780 --> 00:18:41,200 one group that was around these guys have been on television they've made 281 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:45,920 records and they want ringo and he's there for the duration he's there it's 282 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:49,380 open -ended engagement he's not planning to come back anytime soon he's an 283 00:18:49,380 --> 00:18:53,080 adventurer he's just going to stay out there and see where the next opportunity 284 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:57,480 might arise but then suddenly he comes back to liverpool now why is that 285 00:18:58,190 --> 00:18:59,109 Two reasons. 286 00:18:59,110 --> 00:19:00,069 One, 287 00:19:00,070 --> 00:19:04,630 his beloved grandmother Annie Starkey died suddenly in February 1962. 288 00:19:05,770 --> 00:19:11,010 She had been a key part of his upbringing, Ringo. In particular, he 289 00:19:11,010 --> 00:19:15,970 the voodoo queen of Liverpool because, amongst other things, she had cured him 290 00:19:15,970 --> 00:19:21,070 of his natural left -handedness. He was born left -handed, but she said that 291 00:19:21,070 --> 00:19:23,430 anyone left -handed had been possessed by the devil. 292 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:26,560 and forced him into being right -handed. 293 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:32,120 But though right -handed, he always led with his left and played on a right 294 00:19:32,120 --> 00:19:36,000 -handed kit, which gave him a particularly unusual style. He called it 295 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:40,860 lope. It meant he always started in a very unusual place when he was drumming. 296 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:45,580 So that was one of the key parts of why Ringo was such an interesting drummer. 297 00:19:45,860 --> 00:19:49,400 So she has died, and Ringo is in Hamburg and is very upset. 298 00:19:50,110 --> 00:19:53,670 And also at the very same time, there was a catastrophic flood in northern 299 00:19:53,670 --> 00:19:58,410 Germany which killed 343 people in Hamburg alone. 300 00:19:58,990 --> 00:20:00,830 And there were power cuts. 301 00:20:01,090 --> 00:20:03,270 They didn't know where they would be resuming work. 302 00:20:03,510 --> 00:20:05,650 So Ringo just said, I think I'll go back to Liverpool. 303 00:20:05,970 --> 00:20:10,410 So when the Beatles come looking for him, he's not in Hamburg. He's back in 304 00:20:10,410 --> 00:20:14,930 Liverpool. Arguably, had those events not occurred, he would have still been 305 00:20:14,930 --> 00:20:17,210 Hamburg and not available to the Beatles. 306 00:20:22,540 --> 00:20:27,520 So we're outside what was a tailoring shop called Ben O'Dawn in Grange Road 307 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:30,360 in Birkenhead, and the Beatles came here to get their first suits. 308 00:20:30,900 --> 00:20:34,560 So one of the myths of the Beatles' story, which perpetuates to this day, 309 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:38,860 though I'm trying to prevent it, is that Brian Epstein, their new manager, took 310 00:20:38,860 --> 00:20:42,820 these rough -and -ready young guys in their leathers and sanitised them by 311 00:20:42,820 --> 00:20:44,960 putting them into smart suits. 312 00:20:45,980 --> 00:20:49,580 In reality, he was much smarter than that. What he said to them was... 313 00:20:49,980 --> 00:20:53,880 Dressed as you are, I can get you these bookings, but if you really want to get 314 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:57,460 a recording contract, if you really want to get on television, if you really 315 00:20:57,460 --> 00:21:01,040 want to get on the radio and if you really want to play better places, you 316 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:02,040 to look smarter. 317 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:06,300 So the consequence was they decided that they had better smartened themselves 318 00:21:06,300 --> 00:21:13,000 up. And with his recommendation, they came here in Birkenhead to Ben O'Dawn. 319 00:21:13,300 --> 00:21:17,260 This was the famous man. He was actually quite a local celebrity, Ben O'Dawn, 320 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:19,080 the master tailor. 321 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:24,920 And they had a gentleman's suit handmade and these were the suits that he made. 322 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:28,360 And in fact, the Beatles designed them. That's how much of a myth it is that 323 00:21:28,360 --> 00:21:29,480 Brian tidied them up. 324 00:21:29,740 --> 00:21:34,540 Because given the opportunity to create something to wear, they actually 325 00:21:34,540 --> 00:21:36,160 designed these suits themselves. 326 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:40,160 And these lovely pictures resulted. 327 00:21:42,300 --> 00:21:43,279 That's what... 328 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:45,720 The suits look like on the inside with the label. 329 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:51,140 And I like this picture. This is about March 1962 and this is, I think, July. 330 00:21:52,380 --> 00:21:54,260 Paul and George at the microphone. 331 00:21:55,060 --> 00:21:58,420 This is them in leathers and this is them in suits. They still look 332 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:00,900 It's like they haven't lost anything. 333 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:05,400 And no fan of the Beatles who was a fan then quit because they were wearing 334 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:06,399 something smarter. 335 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,300 It's all been turned into a bigger story than it needs to be. 336 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:12,120 But the number one thing is that they wanted these clothes. 337 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:20,620 Now I'm going to talk about the very famous musician Paul James. 338 00:22:20,860 --> 00:22:25,480 You know Paul James who wrote the song Yesterday, rumoured to be dead for a 339 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:31,460 while, released the albums James, James 2 and James 3, and that best -selling 340 00:22:31,460 --> 00:22:34,360 book last year of Paul James, The Lyrics. 341 00:22:35,060 --> 00:22:39,600 Why am I talking about Paul James? The thing is, in 1962, Paul McCartney 342 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,420 considered changing his name from McCartney. 343 00:22:43,130 --> 00:22:48,470 to james he thought about it for a while and it's never been mentioned since i 344 00:22:48,470 --> 00:22:52,170 you don't read about this anywhere paul never talks about it nobody ever asks 345 00:22:52,170 --> 00:22:57,390 him about it but i was doing an interview with him in 1991 and i'm going 346 00:22:57,390 --> 00:23:02,350 you a little bit of it in which he revealed that actually in 1962 he very 347 00:23:02,350 --> 00:23:08,130 changed his name so here is paul telling us about it when it came to the beatles 348 00:23:08,130 --> 00:23:13,520 i remember being in the back of Brian Epstein Zodiac, his big posh car, Ford, 349 00:23:13,740 --> 00:23:17,720 and talking about whether Paul McCartney was the sort of right name. 350 00:23:18,020 --> 00:23:20,120 And he sort of felt it was a bit of a mouthful. 351 00:23:20,500 --> 00:23:23,460 And I did too. I sort of thought, well, you know, how's anyone ever going to 352 00:23:23,460 --> 00:23:26,660 remember that? People didn't remember it particularly at school ever. 353 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:29,480 And so I was going to become Paul James. 354 00:23:29,980 --> 00:23:32,680 That was the next thing. I thought, James, Paul, Paul James. 355 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:33,880 That's kind of good. 356 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:38,660 But then, I don't know, we then just sort of thought, nah, you know what? 357 00:23:39,050 --> 00:23:42,850 And luckily we said, nah, you know, let them remember our names. 358 00:23:43,130 --> 00:23:47,090 Which is good now because McCartney is a sort of standout name now that adds 359 00:23:47,090 --> 00:23:48,090 with Lennon, you know. 360 00:23:48,330 --> 00:23:49,790 There's no two Lennons. 361 00:23:49,990 --> 00:23:52,610 You don't get confused with all McCartney. 362 00:23:53,810 --> 00:23:55,850 Extraordinary to think that he might have been Paul James. 363 00:23:56,710 --> 00:24:00,910 And very good that he didn't because what a wise decision he made in the end 364 00:24:00,910 --> 00:24:04,510 there to stick to McCartney. Even though, as he said, when he was at 365 00:24:04,510 --> 00:24:06,670 wasn't a name that was remembered much. How about that? 366 00:24:08,239 --> 00:24:12,840 because apart from when they get Ringo, he's got a stage name, Ringo, sorry, not 367 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:16,420 his real name. They kept their names, and when they eventually make their 368 00:24:16,420 --> 00:24:20,240 breakthrough, that makes them so much more identifiable with, because they're 369 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:24,040 just like, genuinely, they're like boys next door. They've got real names, and 370 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:27,640 that was a crucial thing. That was a moment when popular music tilted right 371 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:32,060 there, when Paul McCartney decided to keep McCartney and not be Paul James. 372 00:24:33,770 --> 00:24:37,650 This is one of the rarest beetles artefacts in the world. 373 00:24:38,230 --> 00:24:39,750 A unique item. 374 00:24:39,990 --> 00:24:46,030 It's an advance against wages to a Margaret Ann Reid who worked for Sid and 375 00:24:46,030 --> 00:24:51,230 Simpsons, the shoe company in Southport. Now, why am I saying that that is one 376 00:24:51,230 --> 00:24:55,170 of the rarest beetles items in the world? The reason is that on the reverse 377 00:24:55,170 --> 00:24:56,170 side... 378 00:24:57,290 --> 00:25:00,890 is a set of Beatles autographs that she obtained at the Kingsway Club in 379 00:25:00,890 --> 00:25:05,110 Southport on, and she's dated it, March 26th, 1962. 380 00:25:06,190 --> 00:25:08,370 What makes this set of autographs so special? 381 00:25:08,630 --> 00:25:11,690 It's the first ever set of John Paul George and Ringo. 382 00:25:12,070 --> 00:25:16,710 Now, Ringo wasn't yet a Beatle. Well, he was between gigs. He was soon to rejoin 383 00:25:16,710 --> 00:25:19,770 Rory Storm, but at the moment he's just kind of hanging around Liverpool. 384 00:25:20,330 --> 00:25:23,350 And this was an occasion, the 26th of March, when... 385 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:28,020 Pete Best couldn't play and they reached out to Ringo and said, will you sit in? 386 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:32,960 And so later in the evening when this Margaret Ann Reid fished this piece of 387 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,880 paper out of her handbag and said, will you sign this? 388 00:25:36,460 --> 00:25:39,020 They all signed it and that includes Ringo. 389 00:25:39,360 --> 00:25:43,460 And I particularly like Ringo's signature actually because I think it 390 00:25:43,460 --> 00:25:47,840 2008 he decided that he'd had enough of signing. He'd been signing for like 391 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,840 nearly 50 years and I don't want to do any more signing. 392 00:25:52,670 --> 00:25:55,330 But at this time, he was only too keen to sign. 393 00:25:55,590 --> 00:25:58,050 And you can see there was quite an elaborate autograph. 394 00:25:58,550 --> 00:25:59,550 Lots of luck. 395 00:26:00,210 --> 00:26:01,210 Ringo Starr. 396 00:26:01,750 --> 00:26:07,850 Then he's underlined his name and put VCL for vocal and drums and underlined 397 00:26:07,850 --> 00:26:12,430 that. And then a star because he's Ringo Starr. And then a little kiss as well. 398 00:26:12,610 --> 00:26:16,090 And I rather fancy that the other Beatles are standing there watching him 399 00:26:16,090 --> 00:26:19,990 this, thinking, how long are you going to take over this autograph? But he was 400 00:26:19,990 --> 00:26:20,990 very particular. 401 00:26:21,340 --> 00:26:25,200 over making sure that he got it right. So this is a really special piece of 402 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:29,660 paper, because over the years they would sign tens of thousands of autographs, 403 00:26:29,660 --> 00:26:32,440 but there had to be a first, and this is the one. 404 00:26:33,620 --> 00:26:37,500 This is the Punch and Judy Cafe at Lime Street Station in Liverpool. 405 00:26:37,700 --> 00:26:39,120 Brian Edgstein is... 406 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:44,080 hawking the Beatles tape around the London record companies, going down to 407 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:48,360 London on the train and coming back late evenings. And Brian returns time after 408 00:26:48,360 --> 00:26:52,660 time with a long face and no contract. And they're waiting for him in the Punch 409 00:26:52,660 --> 00:26:53,660 and Judy cafe. 410 00:26:54,140 --> 00:26:58,320 And he always comes back, sorry boys, I'm afraid I couldn't find anyone to be 411 00:26:58,320 --> 00:26:59,380 interested in you. 412 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:01,220 Now let's have a reminder. 413 00:27:01,540 --> 00:27:05,060 The Beatles are topping the poll in a newspaper. 414 00:27:06,060 --> 00:27:10,120 that is published in a scene in Liverpool that is so thriving. It's got 415 00:27:10,120 --> 00:27:15,380 publication. They've got their own fan club. Sometimes they play up to 5 ,000 416 00:27:15,380 --> 00:27:19,660 people a night, especially when they're playing over in New Brighton at the huge 417 00:27:19,660 --> 00:27:20,660 Tower Ballroom. 418 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:25,520 They've got something going here, and yet Brian Epstein can't get anybody 419 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,960 interested in London to take them. 420 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:33,300 So let's have a look at the labels who turned down the Beatles and who else 421 00:27:33,300 --> 00:27:35,220 signed. Top left corner, Phillips. 422 00:27:35,790 --> 00:27:40,170 record label, did not sign the Beatles, but did sign the Canadian wrestler 423 00:27:40,170 --> 00:27:41,710 Frankie Townsend. 424 00:27:43,230 --> 00:27:47,070 They also signed a middle -aged London housewife called Mary May. 425 00:27:47,370 --> 00:27:52,150 Aureole didn't sign the Beatles, but did sign a builder's labourer and renamed 426 00:27:52,150 --> 00:27:53,650 him Brett Ansell. 427 00:27:54,620 --> 00:27:58,560 Decker didn't sign the Beatles but signed a house decorator, Vern Brandon. 428 00:27:59,540 --> 00:28:04,260 EMI's Columbia label didn't sign the Beatles but did sign Welsh council 429 00:28:04,260 --> 00:28:09,200 draftsman, Peter Harvey, and a 15 -year -old schoolboy called Ian Vince. 430 00:28:10,360 --> 00:28:14,920 And EMI's HMV label didn't sign the Beatles but did sign a 10 -year -old 431 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,440 schoolboy called Stephen Sinclair. What on earth? 432 00:28:19,820 --> 00:28:24,580 are these A &R men at British record companies doing? Why are they signing 433 00:28:24,580 --> 00:28:26,280 people and not the Beatles? 434 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,240 These people, they're not even professional singers. 435 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:33,660 They've all got other jobs. You notice they're draftsmen and engineers and 436 00:28:33,660 --> 00:28:36,600 decorators and a wrestler, for goodness sake. 437 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:41,100 But they're not signing a group that's got a fan club and is winning polls and 438 00:28:41,100 --> 00:28:45,220 is playing every night and they look smart and they're very engaging, they're 439 00:28:45,220 --> 00:28:47,360 very charismatic and they write their own music. 440 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:52,740 The Beatles have got the whole lot and these guys are signing wrestlers and 441 00:28:52,740 --> 00:28:53,740 house decorators. 442 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:58,620 It is really quite extraordinary and a real insight into the way the business 443 00:28:58,620 --> 00:29:02,180 was structured and what the Beatles were fighting against and what eventually 444 00:29:02,180 --> 00:29:05,640 they swept away completely once they became successful. 445 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:09,920 And the other thing they're saying to Brian Eckstein is, you'll never make it 446 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:10,920 from Liverpool. 447 00:29:11,180 --> 00:29:15,240 You'll have to come down to London first because no one is ever made in 448 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:20,680 Liverpool. You have to go to London and change the name Beatles because Beatles 449 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:24,200 is a horrible word. No one's going to like it. No one will sign you if you're 450 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:25,200 called Beatles. 451 00:29:25,220 --> 00:29:29,120 So Brian is coming back to Liverpool and he's telling John Paul and George and 452 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:32,600 they're going, we're not changing our name and we're not going to leave 453 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,300 Liverpool. We're going to make it from Liverpool. 454 00:29:34,540 --> 00:29:38,520 They dug their heels in. They knew who they were. They knew what they wanted. 455 00:29:38,700 --> 00:29:43,200 They weren't going to conform to other people's stupid rules they were always 456 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:47,060 going to do things their way or they weren't going to do them at all which is 457 00:29:47,060 --> 00:29:51,760 key part of who they were well the place the Beatles played more than any other 458 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:58,440 in 1962 in 1961 as well was the Cavern Club in Liverpool it's now 459 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:04,440 a tourist mecca This, however, is the setting as it originally was. This is 460 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:05,520 Matthew Street in Liverpool. 461 00:30:05,860 --> 00:30:10,240 Much quieter. It's full of fruit warehouses and the fruit exchange market 462 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:15,640 itself. So just basically full of crates and the smell there is of fruit and 463 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:19,380 vegetables. The Beatles played the cavern about 300 times. 464 00:30:20,460 --> 00:30:23,340 But there were some standouts in those 300. 465 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:27,920 And this is certainly one of the standout nights. This is the 5th of 466 00:30:28,380 --> 00:30:30,480 The cavern was closed on a Thursday night. 467 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:35,880 So Brian rented it as a private let in order to host an evening of the Beatles 468 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:36,880 for their fans. 469 00:30:37,380 --> 00:30:42,200 I really like this handbill because Brian Epstein was a very stylish man. 470 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,600 And the Beatles were a very stylish group. 471 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:46,220 And the combination... 472 00:30:47,070 --> 00:30:51,210 set them head and shoulders above everybody else. What a beautiful piece 473 00:30:51,210 --> 00:30:55,610 artwork this is. Very modern then. I think it still looks modern today. 474 00:30:55,930 --> 00:31:02,070 He was organising this event in order to make a special unveiling and also to 475 00:31:02,070 --> 00:31:06,350 recruit new members of the fan club. So everyone who came into the cavern that 476 00:31:06,350 --> 00:31:10,050 night automatically received free membership of the fan club. 477 00:31:10,590 --> 00:31:13,890 And that meant that they had to be processed at the door. 478 00:31:14,870 --> 00:31:18,170 with their particulars taken so they could become enrolled as members. 479 00:31:18,510 --> 00:31:22,230 And it was a matter of all hands to the pump to try and get everybody in as 480 00:31:22,230 --> 00:31:23,230 quickly as possible. 481 00:31:23,550 --> 00:31:27,270 And this card here is actually Brian Epstein's own handwriting. 482 00:31:27,530 --> 00:31:31,410 So he's down on the door as well, helping to get people into the club. 483 00:31:31,850 --> 00:31:36,930 Now, in the first half of the show, the Beatles played as they always had done, 484 00:31:37,070 --> 00:31:38,870 in the leather clothes. 485 00:31:39,110 --> 00:31:42,770 And they looked like this. And this is how the fans knew them and loved them. 486 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:47,080 But an announcement was made that after the interval, the Beatles would be 487 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:48,760 coming out in something different. 488 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:53,380 And indeed they did, because they came out in Father Christmas costumes. 489 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,360 Of course, I mean, it was April, after all. 490 00:31:56,580 --> 00:32:01,880 But then they went back in and changed yet again, and this time they came out 491 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:02,859 their suits. 492 00:32:02,860 --> 00:32:06,840 The suits that they had made at Ben O'Dawn's, the tailoring shop in 493 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:11,920 And Pete Best came to the front, which he did very seldom, and sang Peppermint 494 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:12,920 Twist. 495 00:32:13,450 --> 00:32:20,330 And Paul McCartney went on drums and a girl called Lou Steen took these 496 00:32:20,330 --> 00:32:22,110 incredible photographs that night. 497 00:32:22,450 --> 00:32:24,370 Paul McCartney on drums there. 498 00:32:24,630 --> 00:32:28,270 Look at the joy on Paul McCartney's face. This has to be, I would think, one 499 00:32:28,270 --> 00:32:30,290 the great nights of his life to this point. 500 00:32:30,550 --> 00:32:35,630 What is he? He's not yet 20 years old and he's on drums. They've got their fan 501 00:32:35,630 --> 00:32:39,470 club. They've got their manager. Things are really on the up for them. And it's 502 00:32:39,470 --> 00:32:42,570 captured in Lou Steen's evocative photographs of that night. 503 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:45,840 And now they're in suits. 504 00:32:46,340 --> 00:32:50,000 And this is how they're going to look from now on. And that was it. They had 505 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:51,000 made that transformation. 506 00:32:52,750 --> 00:32:56,850 The man on the right is Stuart Sutcliffe, who had been a Beatle until 507 00:32:56,850 --> 00:32:58,730 previous June, June 1961. 508 00:32:58,990 --> 00:33:04,550 This picture was taken in February 1962 at a Hamburg art school party. 509 00:33:04,990 --> 00:33:09,930 He's with his girlfriend Astrid Kircher and her friend, her former boyfriend, 510 00:33:10,090 --> 00:33:11,090 Klaus Vorman. 511 00:33:11,290 --> 00:33:14,630 You can tell it's an art school event because they're dressed in some kind of 512 00:33:14,630 --> 00:33:17,750 fancy way. Klaus didn't usually go around with ruffles. 513 00:33:18,990 --> 00:33:24,470 But look how cool Stuart is. A young man in 1962. This was really adventurous. 514 00:33:24,670 --> 00:33:28,870 He looks more like he's in the new romantic movement down Billy's nightclub 515 00:33:28,870 --> 00:33:35,290 Soho in 1979 -80 than a young man in Hamburg from Liverpool in 516 00:33:35,290 --> 00:33:39,750 1962. And he and Astrid are very devoted to one another. He wrote this lovely 517 00:33:39,750 --> 00:33:44,930 note to her. He stayed in Hamburg to be with her. And everything is going well. 518 00:33:45,010 --> 00:33:48,690 His painting is going brilliantly, except that he's beginning to suffer. 519 00:33:48,690 --> 00:33:49,970 some very violent headaches. 520 00:33:50,330 --> 00:33:55,190 And in April 1962, with the Beatles just about to arrive for their season at the 521 00:33:55,190 --> 00:34:00,870 Star Club, Stuart dies of a brain haemorrhage at the age of 21. 522 00:34:05,310 --> 00:34:09,530 This is the grave of Stuart Sutcliffe together with both his parents, Charles 523 00:34:09,530 --> 00:34:10,530 and Millie. 524 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,420 and his sister Pauline, and there's one sister left now. 525 00:34:13,679 --> 00:34:17,760 And he had left the Beatles in 1961. He was no longer in the band. 526 00:34:18,900 --> 00:34:24,239 But nonetheless, they were close to him, and he was close to them. 527 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:28,960 But for him to die at the age of 21 in Hamburg, just before they got there for 528 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:34,500 their third visit, the first at the Star Club, was really an appalling event. 529 00:34:35,260 --> 00:34:38,639 Within ten months of his death, they were number one on the charts. 530 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:45,600 and on their way to becoming the phenomenon that they were and still are, 531 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:46,418 missed it all. 532 00:34:46,420 --> 00:34:49,300 And, you know, he probably would have been part of it in some way. 533 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:55,699 His picture's on the cover of the Sgt Pepper album, and his influence was with 534 00:34:55,699 --> 00:34:58,140 them always, but he missed it. 535 00:34:59,340 --> 00:35:00,420 Very sad thing. 536 00:35:04,620 --> 00:35:07,200 Astrid took this photograph of John Lennon. 537 00:35:07,770 --> 00:35:11,950 standing in the exact place where his close friend Stuart was standing only a 538 00:35:11,950 --> 00:35:16,310 few weeks earlier. And she also took this picture of George with John in the 539 00:35:16,310 --> 00:35:17,310 same spot. 540 00:35:17,490 --> 00:35:21,670 And as Astrid said to me, though George is two and a half years younger than 541 00:35:21,670 --> 00:35:26,170 John, John is so broken by Stuart's death that it's like George is the older 542 00:35:26,170 --> 00:35:30,350 brother going to be taking care of him. The half -shadow look. 543 00:35:30,550 --> 00:35:34,990 And you see it again in these pictures, taken that same visit that same day. 544 00:35:35,740 --> 00:35:40,480 What a compellingly honest photograph of John Lennon that is. 545 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:44,960 How he's allowed himself to be seen by the camera grieving for his friend. 546 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:50,680 And George, the character packed into his face. He's 19 years old, but just 547 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:52,360 at George. He's old before his time. 548 00:35:53,260 --> 00:35:58,420 What fantastic photos Astrid took. And it made them enamored of the half 549 00:35:58,420 --> 00:36:02,440 look. And that's why they wanted Robert Freeman to take the half -shadow 550 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,500 pictures for the With the Beatles album cover. 551 00:36:07,050 --> 00:36:13,930 This is a tube of preludin, which were slimming pills for women made in 552 00:36:13,950 --> 00:36:18,150 They were known as preludes by the musicians who played the nightclubs and 553 00:36:18,150 --> 00:36:22,830 bars in Hamburg, the Beatles included, because it was realised that they're 554 00:36:22,830 --> 00:36:23,788 an amphetamine. 555 00:36:23,790 --> 00:36:28,250 And with the very long hours that the Beatles and the other groups had to play 556 00:36:28,250 --> 00:36:32,490 there, they would be offered these little pills just to make sure they 557 00:36:32,490 --> 00:36:33,490 fall asleep on stage. 558 00:36:34,670 --> 00:36:40,330 And this, actually, you can see the tube matches a photograph of the Beatles. 559 00:36:40,430 --> 00:36:41,630 This is a Prellis photo. 560 00:36:42,470 --> 00:36:46,290 Probably the only picture that overtly ties the Beatles to drugs, if you can 561 00:36:46,290 --> 00:36:50,330 call a slimming pure drugs. But it is an amphetamine of a kind. 562 00:36:51,050 --> 00:36:52,470 Pete Best in the picture. 563 00:36:53,180 --> 00:36:56,800 fully engaged with it, but actually he didn't take the drugs. He was a beer 564 00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:57,800 drinker only. 565 00:36:57,980 --> 00:37:01,680 Paul, he's well engaged in it too, but he would only take them occasionally. 566 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:07,920 The biggest drug takers in the Beatles were usually George and John, and I 567 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:11,360 you can see they probably had some prelis, John especially. 568 00:37:12,020 --> 00:37:16,440 So this is a great photograph of the Beatles at the Star Club in Hamburg in 569 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:20,380 spring of 1962 with the prelis that they were taking. 570 00:37:21,260 --> 00:37:27,320 Now, you know about Bob Dylan turning the Beatles onto marijuana in New York 571 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:33,200 August 1964, that famous story, which is completely true, but actually a couple 572 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:37,580 of them had smoked a joint before, not in New York, in Southport. 573 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:44,260 Instead, the drummer in another group on the bill in February 62 had a joint and 574 00:37:44,260 --> 00:37:48,600 they shared it in the dressing room before they went on. Two of them, George 575 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:53,660 and, and very likely John, I would say, but we don't know for absolute sure. So 576 00:37:53,660 --> 00:37:58,420 here is where they first smoked pot, not with Bob Dylan in New York, but there 577 00:37:58,420 --> 00:38:03,600 on the wintry, windswept, wet promenade in Southport, Lancashire. 578 00:38:05,070 --> 00:38:11,190 In May 1962, Brian Epstein gets a phone call, come down to EMI because there's 579 00:38:11,190 --> 00:38:14,730 going to be some good news. So he writes to Neil Aspinall. He's the Beatles' 580 00:38:14,890 --> 00:38:19,130 indispensable road manager and says, you'll be interested to hear I'm going 581 00:38:19,130 --> 00:38:23,990 London this week to see EMI and very sincerely hope that when I see you on 582 00:38:23,990 --> 00:38:27,770 Friday, I'll have good news, which means he knows something good is going to 583 00:38:27,770 --> 00:38:31,530 happen. He doesn't know why they're suddenly being offered a contract, but 584 00:38:31,530 --> 00:38:34,650 not going to argue it. Thank you very much. We've been looking for a contract. 585 00:38:34,670 --> 00:38:38,210 track will take it and it is with emi who are the greatest recording 586 00:38:38,210 --> 00:38:45,070 organization in the world and this letter typed on the 587 00:38:45,070 --> 00:38:49,590 very day the 9th of may i'm writing this note to you a few minutes before going 588 00:38:49,590 --> 00:38:54,350 for the london train i've typed this note in mr brian's absence which is why 589 00:38:54,350 --> 00:38:59,310 hasn't signed it so the letter was typed while brian was heading for lime street 590 00:38:59,310 --> 00:39:04,550 station got the train to London, came here to EMI Studios, and George Martin 591 00:39:04,550 --> 00:39:06,850 said, I want to sign your boys, the Beatles. 592 00:39:07,230 --> 00:39:10,950 And Brian left this building on the 9th of May, absolutely thrilled to bits that 593 00:39:10,950 --> 00:39:13,230 they had finally landed what they'd been waiting for. 594 00:39:16,130 --> 00:39:20,450 Having left the studios that day, having met George Martin, Brian Epstein needed 595 00:39:20,450 --> 00:39:24,050 to get the good news for the Beatles as soon as possible. So they were in 596 00:39:24,050 --> 00:39:28,530 Hamburg at the time, playing at the Star Club, and Brian came to a post office 597 00:39:28,530 --> 00:39:29,530 that was here. 598 00:39:29,870 --> 00:39:34,970 No longer a post office, now a cafe, but here he came the 9th of May 1962 to 599 00:39:34,970 --> 00:39:36,830 transmit the great news to the Beatles. 600 00:39:37,090 --> 00:39:39,450 They now had a Parlophone recording contract. 601 00:39:39,870 --> 00:39:44,770 And he sent a second telegram here that afternoon to Mersey Beat newspaper in 602 00:39:44,770 --> 00:39:47,410 Liverpool. And I have a facsimile of that here. 603 00:39:47,810 --> 00:39:52,930 Have secured contract for Beatles to recorded for EMI on Parlophone label. 604 00:39:53,170 --> 00:39:57,170 First recording date set for June 6th. Brian Epstein. 605 00:39:57,410 --> 00:39:58,790 An historic document. 606 00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:03,660 Because the Beatles now had a recording contract. In Hamburg, they had one that 607 00:40:03,660 --> 00:40:05,620 said, please rehearse new material. 608 00:40:05,980 --> 00:40:09,860 So there they were in Hamburg knowing that finally they were going to be 609 00:40:09,860 --> 00:40:11,400 the chance to make their first record. 610 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:16,980 George Martin and his secretary complete this form. It's an application for a 611 00:40:16,980 --> 00:40:21,280 contract to be drafted. And the name on the contract is Beatles. 612 00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:24,060 Beatles with two Ts. 613 00:40:24,940 --> 00:40:29,540 And it was a four -year contract, renewable by EMI, by Parlophone, if they 614 00:40:29,540 --> 00:40:35,080 wanted to. They had to record a minimum of six songs in the first year, and they 615 00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:39,960 would be paid a penny per double -sided record on 90 % of the records. A 616 00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,300 standard contract in those days. 617 00:40:43,100 --> 00:40:47,260 People who like to be wise after the event say the Beatles' record contract 618 00:40:47,260 --> 00:40:50,600 a feeble one. Well, it was fairly feeble, but it was standard. 619 00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:55,820 And there was no way that Brian Epstein had any strength in this negotiation to 620 00:40:55,820 --> 00:40:58,900 say, I demand that we hold out for Tuppence's record. 621 00:40:59,660 --> 00:41:03,940 Because it was just a complete stroke of luck that they were being signed at 622 00:41:03,940 --> 00:41:06,660 all. But that's how fate is. 623 00:41:07,420 --> 00:41:12,500 So the contract arrives, Brian Epstein's office, he takes a fountain pen and 624 00:41:12,500 --> 00:41:18,680 crosses out the T and makes it Beatles again and signs the last page and at 625 00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:23,600 now the Beatles have a proper recording contract with George Martin and 626 00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:24,600 Parlophone Records. 627 00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:31,100 So this is a little collection of records that I put together over the 628 00:41:31,100 --> 00:41:35,540 that are just some of the records made by George Martin before he met the 629 00:41:35,540 --> 00:41:36,540 Beatles. 630 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:40,960 And it's a measure of how prolific he was as a producer, how much experience 631 00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:45,620 had, that when he met the Beatles and they were beginning to find their feet 632 00:41:45,620 --> 00:41:49,760 the studio, he was the perfect producer because he had so much experience under 633 00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:50,479 his belt. 634 00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:55,080 This is George Martin's first number one hit, You're Driving Me Crazy by the 635 00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,220 Temperance Seven, during 1961. 636 00:41:58,620 --> 00:42:04,160 kind of 1920s style jazz, where the lead singer Paul McDowell sang through a 637 00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:05,960 megaphone. This one here, 638 00:42:06,720 --> 00:42:13,260 Time Beat by Ray Cathode, obviously a pseudonym. Ray Cathode is actually 639 00:42:13,260 --> 00:42:17,740 Martin, and Time Beat was made with the cooperation of the BBC Radiophonic 640 00:42:17,740 --> 00:42:23,020 Workshop. And it's kind of like an early version of electronic music. In fact, 641 00:42:23,060 --> 00:42:27,260 the headline in the New Musical Express to describe it was Electronic Sounds. 642 00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:31,760 which ended up being a George Harrison album title some years later. 643 00:42:32,180 --> 00:42:34,180 Many of these records are innovative. 644 00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:36,820 He was still young, which was to his advantage. 645 00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:42,440 A lot of the A &R men in London were older, but he was a rebel. He was a 646 00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:47,240 renegade. If he had an interesting, quirky talent in the studio, he would 647 00:42:47,240 --> 00:42:50,760 his own talents to the table, and together they could make great music. 648 00:42:50,980 --> 00:42:54,900 And therefore, he was the perfect man to work with the Beatles. 649 00:42:56,780 --> 00:43:01,160 Here's another example of how incredibly fortunate we are to have Ringo as a 650 00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:05,620 Beatle and how fortunate Ringo was to become a Beatle. This is a telegram to 651 00:43:05,620 --> 00:43:06,620 him. 652 00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:10,920 from Roy Young, who was with him in the house band at the Top Ten Club. Now, the 653 00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:15,860 Star Club has opened in Hamburg. It's immediately taken over as the go -to 654 00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:17,140 This often happens. 655 00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:22,840 And there's now a house band in the Star Club. Again, Tony Sheridan. Again, Roy 656 00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:24,300 Young. And they want Ringo back. 657 00:43:24,780 --> 00:43:31,640 We'll pay you 400 German marks, which was about ยฃ34 a week, from 1 June 1962 658 00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:33,060 13 April 1963. 659 00:43:33,340 --> 00:43:34,800 Please come by aeroplane. 660 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:36,560 we pay the fare. 661 00:43:36,860 --> 00:43:40,760 I'm sure Ringo would have grabbed this with both hands had he had the 662 00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:46,720 opportunity, but it arrived in late May, and Ringo was committed to spending the 663 00:43:46,720 --> 00:43:51,000 summer with Rory Storm and the Hurricanes, the Liverpool group who had 664 00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,700 playing at Butlin's holiday camp in Skegness. 665 00:43:54,340 --> 00:43:59,300 So had this arrived a few days earlier, Ringo might have said yes, but instead 666 00:43:59,300 --> 00:44:03,440 he replies, signed contract, sorry, Ringo. 667 00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:07,740 Contract misspelled because Ringo had missed so much education. 668 00:44:07,940 --> 00:44:09,460 Had a very sick childhood. 669 00:44:09,740 --> 00:44:13,280 Not a stupid man by any means, but he had missed a lot of school. 670 00:44:13,580 --> 00:44:20,160 But that again, how lucky he was to have missed this. Because if he had gone, he 671 00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:22,220 would have been in Hamburg until April 1963. 672 00:44:23,020 --> 00:44:25,460 The Beatles come and get him in August of 62. 673 00:44:25,740 --> 00:44:27,260 He wouldn't have been in England. 674 00:44:27,620 --> 00:44:32,980 So his own life pattern was shaped by the fact that Roy Young... 675 00:44:33,500 --> 00:44:37,680 didn't send the telegram until the end of May, and it was too late. He couldn't 676 00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:38,680 do it. 677 00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:42,980 Instead, he's at Butlins in Skeggy with Rory Storm and the Hurricanes. 678 00:44:43,300 --> 00:44:46,480 And if you think he looks bored and miserable in this picture, 679 00:44:47,260 --> 00:44:50,680 then you're probably right because he was. Rory Storm and the Hurricanes, they 680 00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:54,740 were a good -time show band, kicking their legs up in the air, as you can 681 00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:59,440 Good fun, good laughs, but they're never really going to make it. They're no 682 00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:03,700 challenge for Ringo, and he's going to leave them again when he can. 683 00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:06,620 He doesn't yet know when, but he's going to. 684 00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:12,140 This is the famous Abbey Road zebra crossing, and for more than half a 685 00:45:12,140 --> 00:45:15,220 now people have come here from all over the world to have their pictures taken. 686 00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:20,900 But in June 1962, when the Beatles first came to the recording studios over 687 00:45:20,900 --> 00:45:22,640 there, they were absolutely unknown. 688 00:45:23,220 --> 00:45:27,760 They drove their van into the parking lot at the front there, unloaded, and 689 00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:29,600 a fairly substandard session. 690 00:45:29,820 --> 00:45:33,800 They hadn't done well at Decca, and now again here at EMI they weren't doing a 691 00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:34,800 particularly good session. 692 00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:36,580 In particular... 693 00:45:37,310 --> 00:45:40,950 George Martin, the producer, was unhappy with the performance of their drummer. 694 00:45:41,470 --> 00:45:47,270 And I have this letter from the archives of 1965, so three years later, in which 695 00:45:47,270 --> 00:45:48,990 George Martin set down his thoughts. 696 00:45:49,250 --> 00:45:53,190 I told Mr Epstein at this time that I was not satisfied with the performance 697 00:45:53,190 --> 00:45:57,390 their drummer, Mr Peter Best, and as far as my recordings were concerned, I 698 00:45:57,390 --> 00:46:01,470 would prefer not to use him on the actual record, but that I would use a 699 00:46:01,470 --> 00:46:02,470 drummer. 700 00:46:02,590 --> 00:46:07,050 I do remember that at this time, Peter Best did seem to be an odd man out. 701 00:46:07,270 --> 00:46:10,890 And while the other three were very unified in their performance and 702 00:46:11,430 --> 00:46:14,190 he did not seem to be a true part of the group. 703 00:46:14,490 --> 00:46:18,410 Well, the Beatles hadn't been that satisfied with Pete for a long time, but 704 00:46:18,410 --> 00:46:22,150 George Martin's opinion there really did set the seal on his time with the 705 00:46:22,150 --> 00:46:27,150 Beatles. And within a couple of months of their visit here to EMI, Pete was 706 00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:32,660 This is Paul McCartney's first car and it's parked outside his house, a council 707 00:46:32,660 --> 00:46:34,380 house in Forthland Road, Liverpool. 708 00:46:34,780 --> 00:46:38,420 Only the second car parked on that road at that time. 709 00:46:38,780 --> 00:46:41,820 So the neighbours would have been looking out of the window and thinking, 710 00:46:41,820 --> 00:46:46,400 car is that? It belongs to that 20 -year -old boy in that house. And that's a 711 00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:50,220 measure of how well the Beatles were doing under Brian Epstein's management. 712 00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:54,840 Even before they were nationally famous, they had the money to buy cars. 713 00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:59,960 in a street where pretty much nobody else had one and he buys it from a 714 00:46:59,960 --> 00:47:04,960 in liverpool called blake's on hardman street and it had a delicious moment as 715 00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:10,240 he was reversing it off the forecourt to drive it home he and george had both 716 00:47:10,240 --> 00:47:14,400 been students at the liverpool institute high school where the headmaster who 717 00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:18,440 was known by all the boys as the baz probably short for something 718 00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:26,160 He was the kind of headmaster, really stern British school headmaster of the 719 00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:28,540 school. Many of you will know what that means. I do. 720 00:47:28,940 --> 00:47:32,420 And he decried any boy a failure who didn't... 721 00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:35,340 graduate the school with A -levels and go on to university. 722 00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:39,680 Well, Paul had done quite well at school. George had been a complete 723 00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:44,180 But at the very moment when Paul is reversing his car off the forecourt, 724 00:47:44,180 --> 00:47:47,840 bought it, there is the badge standing right there. 725 00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:51,300 And Paul, like, winds down the window and says, do you like my car? 726 00:47:53,720 --> 00:47:58,580 So in the late spring, early summer of 1962, George Harrison, though only 19, 727 00:47:58,940 --> 00:47:59,940 had a car. 728 00:48:00,620 --> 00:48:05,940 And one day he came to this place, Allerton Golf Course, with Paul 729 00:48:05,940 --> 00:48:08,500 Paul's brother Mike and John Lennon. 730 00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:12,960 And he parked his car, give or take a yard or two, about here. 731 00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,020 Mike McCartney took this picture. 732 00:48:15,630 --> 00:48:19,770 This advert appeared in Mersey Beat newspaper. It only ran in the one issue. 733 00:48:20,110 --> 00:48:23,930 Like George Harrison of the Beatles, you can become the proud owner of a first 734 00:48:23,930 --> 00:48:24,908 -class car. 735 00:48:24,910 --> 00:48:29,070 Contact Hawthorne Engineering Company of Warrington. It must have been a deal. 736 00:48:29,170 --> 00:48:31,430 You must have got some kind of discount on the price. 737 00:48:31,730 --> 00:48:37,210 So George ended up with a Ferrari and Mercedes and ultimately even a McLaren. 738 00:48:37,950 --> 00:48:42,310 But began with this rather sweet, humble Ford Anglia. That even comes with four 739 00:48:42,310 --> 00:48:43,310 months guarantee. 740 00:48:43,530 --> 00:48:46,570 Yeah, four months written guarantee. I like the fact that it's a written 741 00:48:46,570 --> 00:48:47,570 guarantee. 742 00:48:49,390 --> 00:48:52,610 Now we've seen all the reasons why Pete is going to have to go. 743 00:48:53,850 --> 00:48:58,330 People told me when I was writing Tune In that common for Pete to keep his head 744 00:48:58,330 --> 00:48:59,330 down. 745 00:48:59,580 --> 00:49:03,240 and didn't look up very much. And that's really annoying if you're in a band. 746 00:49:03,700 --> 00:49:06,980 John Paul and George on the front line, they turn around, they want to make eye 747 00:49:06,980 --> 00:49:11,420 contact with their drummer to say one more verse or whatever it might be, and 748 00:49:11,420 --> 00:49:14,340 they can't do it because he's not looking at them. Really frustrating. 749 00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:16,120 He's going to have to go. 750 00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:19,480 And Brian is given the job of getting rid of him. 751 00:49:19,950 --> 00:49:23,570 The problem is they've got their Parlophone contract, the EMI one with 752 00:49:23,570 --> 00:49:27,570 Martin. So it's going to be a bit problematic. How will they ease him out 753 00:49:27,570 --> 00:49:30,590 without actually being in default of the contract? 754 00:49:31,050 --> 00:49:35,690 And so Brian discussed it with his solicitor, David Harris, at whose house 755 00:49:35,690 --> 00:49:36,690 found these documents. 756 00:49:37,250 --> 00:49:41,630 And they don't want to refer to Pete by name because it might get out that 757 00:49:41,630 --> 00:49:44,730 they're going to make this change. So they call Pete the undesirable member. 758 00:49:46,850 --> 00:49:50,810 And the solicitor says, basically, you've got no power under the agreement 759 00:49:50,810 --> 00:49:55,950 get rid of him. And then he adds, however, if the other members were 760 00:49:55,950 --> 00:49:59,150 that he should go, then there will be nothing to stop them dissolving the 761 00:49:59,150 --> 00:50:04,570 as it were expelling him and thereafter entering into a new agreement with you 762 00:50:04,570 --> 00:50:07,950 as their manager. So what he's advocating is that you could split the 763 00:50:07,950 --> 00:50:13,890 up, get rid of Pete, take on somebody else, Ringo it's going to be, and then 764 00:50:13,890 --> 00:50:15,090 reform the group. 765 00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:19,300 He doesn't want to get into it like this, but he's now, as their manager, 766 00:50:19,300 --> 00:50:21,780 to do this tricky thing and taking advice. 767 00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:25,020 How is he going to do it? But it's definitely going to happen. 768 00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:30,080 What? 769 00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:36,880 What a crazy week that the Beatles have now, beginning on the 16th of August, 770 00:50:36,900 --> 00:50:40,500 the Thursday when Pete Best is finally removed from the Beatles. 771 00:50:41,150 --> 00:50:45,350 Now, he said that it was never told to him why he was being sacked, but it was 772 00:50:45,350 --> 00:50:49,210 actually. I found this file note of a conversation between Brian and his 773 00:50:49,210 --> 00:50:53,370 solicitor in which it says quite specifically, he said the best fully 774 00:50:53,370 --> 00:50:56,970 appreciated why he was asked to leave and told that he was not up to the 775 00:50:56,970 --> 00:50:57,970 required standards. 776 00:50:58,810 --> 00:51:02,350 Pete, to this day, still says he doesn't know why he was fired. They told me I 777 00:51:02,350 --> 00:51:04,730 wasn't a good enough drummer, but I don't know why I was fired. 778 00:51:05,010 --> 00:51:06,950 But that is actually the reason. 779 00:51:09,100 --> 00:51:12,500 And I don't say that with any disrespect to Pete, and it's perfectly okay that 780 00:51:12,500 --> 00:51:16,240 he wasn't good enough as they saw it, John Paul and George. They got the right 781 00:51:16,240 --> 00:51:19,820 to want another drummer in their group, and actually that's really all it is. 782 00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:23,780 But Brian is the one who has to do the deed, and it's really a very difficult 783 00:51:23,780 --> 00:51:27,360 situation for Brian. He didn't expect to be doing anything like this when he 784 00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:28,460 offered to become their manager. 785 00:51:29,370 --> 00:51:33,530 But there it is. And that afternoon, he dictates a letter to his solicitor 786 00:51:33,530 --> 00:51:38,850 setting out the terms for a new contract that must be drawn up with Richard 787 00:51:38,850 --> 00:51:43,150 Starkey as the Beatles' new member. And this time, we're going to do it 788 00:51:43,150 --> 00:51:46,250 properly. We're going to make sure that the parents of the miners, that's Paul 789 00:51:46,250 --> 00:51:51,350 and George, both still under 21, that they're actually accounted for in the 790 00:51:51,350 --> 00:51:53,730 contract. A slightly shaky... 791 00:51:54,220 --> 00:51:57,920 Pictures, I'm afraid to say. This was one of my espionage moments as a 792 00:51:57,920 --> 00:51:58,920 researcher. 793 00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:04,080 I had about five seconds to take these pictures before I was caught, so I 794 00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:08,760 quite get them in focus. But it needed to be done. A very important and a very 795 00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:09,760 valuable letter. 796 00:52:10,510 --> 00:52:15,190 Now, Brian, when he was the Beatles' manager, not only gave the Beatles the 797 00:52:15,190 --> 00:52:17,590 benefit of his expertise, but also his staff. 798 00:52:17,930 --> 00:52:23,130 And he ran a very efficient office, but they weren't 100 % efficient. And 799 00:52:23,130 --> 00:52:28,650 unfortunately, that afternoon, Brian's assistant, Olive, sent Pete Best a list 800 00:52:28,650 --> 00:52:31,230 of the Beatles' coming engagements for the next two months. 801 00:52:31,910 --> 00:52:35,090 So that would have been an unfortunate moment when he opened that letter. 802 00:52:36,240 --> 00:52:40,320 The one good thing about Pete best sacking is that Neil Aspinall stayed. 803 00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:42,100 only knew Neil through Pete. 804 00:52:42,300 --> 00:52:46,520 He was Pete's friend. They hoped very much that while sacking Pete, they could 805 00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:49,200 keep Neil, and that is exactly what happened. 806 00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:53,280 Neil stayed with them. He was unhappy with what they had done to his mate 807 00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:55,120 though he did actually understand it. 808 00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:59,700 And he said to Pete, you know what, I'm actually going to stay with these guys. 809 00:52:59,820 --> 00:53:04,780 And stay he did. He became the Beatles' indispensable right -hand man, running 810 00:53:04,780 --> 00:53:06,480 their lives until 2007. 811 00:53:07,240 --> 00:53:10,080 I got to know him very well and liked him a lot. 812 00:53:10,300 --> 00:53:15,440 Neil was a great guy. So that was a happy outcome of Pete's dismissal that 813 00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:16,440 stayed. 814 00:53:25,070 --> 00:53:30,450 Port Sunlight, over the water from Liverpool, over the River Mersey. It's 815 00:53:30,450 --> 00:53:34,490 the workers of the Lever Brothers soap factory could live and work. 816 00:53:34,690 --> 00:53:38,850 A self -contained village with the factory at one end and all the houses 817 00:53:38,850 --> 00:53:42,670 workers dotted throughout the village. It had this great, still has a great 818 00:53:42,670 --> 00:53:46,550 place called Hume Hall, where they had dancers and things. And the Beatles 819 00:53:46,550 --> 00:53:47,890 played there four times. 820 00:53:48,730 --> 00:53:53,670 on saturday the 18th of august 1962 the beatles played at hume hall their first 821 00:53:53,670 --> 00:53:59,190 gig with ringo as a permanent member of the band for the horticultural society 822 00:53:59,190 --> 00:54:04,830 dance the horticultural show so the room was full of flowers in bloom it was an 823 00:54:04,830 --> 00:54:06,710 early flower power beatles show 824 00:54:07,980 --> 00:54:11,420 Flowers and cigarettes would have been the smell in the Hume Hall that night. 825 00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:17,000 And this is the night when really John, Paul, George and Ringo are the Beatles 826 00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:21,680 and it all happens in Port Sunlight. And none other than Neil Aspinall himself, 827 00:54:21,980 --> 00:54:22,980 Pete's friend. 828 00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:27,460 said to me they had a succession of drummers through the years and finally 829 00:54:27,460 --> 00:54:32,020 they found one who integrated someone who fitted until this point it was 830 00:54:32,020 --> 00:54:36,480 John Paul George and a drummer and now it was John Paul George and Ringo and 831 00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:40,240 that's Pete's mate saying it so I think you've got the truth of it there one 832 00:54:40,240 --> 00:54:45,460 more thing about Saturday 18th of August 1962 Liverpool are back in the top 833 00:54:45,460 --> 00:54:48,520 flight of British football for the first time in several years they've got a new 834 00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:50,080 manager called Bill Shankly 835 00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:54,860 And the period of their domination is starting. So what a date in Liverpool's 836 00:54:54,860 --> 00:54:59,140 history, the 18th of August, 1962, Liverpool back in the top flight of 837 00:54:59,380 --> 00:55:03,640 and John Paul, George and Ringo now established as the Beatles' line -up. 838 00:55:04,300 --> 00:55:09,120 Now, on the Sunday, the Beatles are playing the Cavern. Now, the Beatles 839 00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:12,680 told anybody why they got rid of Pete Best, because they felt... 840 00:55:13,150 --> 00:55:16,730 that it would be unfair on him. He was a drummer. He was hoping to drum with 841 00:55:16,730 --> 00:55:17,830 another group, I'm sure. 842 00:55:18,230 --> 00:55:22,130 And therefore, if they go around saying that we thought he was crap, then that 843 00:55:22,130 --> 00:55:25,730 wouldn't be very good for him. But because they don't say anything, that 844 00:55:25,730 --> 00:55:30,870 a vacuum for all the fans, particularly those in the cavern, to wonder why they 845 00:55:30,870 --> 00:55:34,190 had fired him. And this is when the nonsense rumors begin. 846 00:55:34,530 --> 00:55:36,690 This is the kind of thing that they were saying. 847 00:55:37,240 --> 00:55:38,300 It was pure jealousy. 848 00:55:38,580 --> 00:55:42,080 It was because he didn't fit in and never went around with them. I heard it 849 00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:43,380 because Pete never smiled. 850 00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:46,380 It was because he wouldn't change his hairstyle into the beautiful fringe. 851 00:55:46,660 --> 00:55:50,040 It was because John had a row with him. It was because they wanted to be free of 852 00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:51,960 Pete's mom. It was Brian Epstein interfering. 853 00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:54,380 Paul was jealous because Pete was so good looking. 854 00:55:55,340 --> 00:55:56,980 Pete was so good looking. 855 00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:02,480 But all this is nonsense. But these rumors are around to the present day. 856 00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:05,100 are still people in Liverpool who say they should never have sacked Pete 857 00:56:05,100 --> 00:56:09,360 Paul was jealous of him because he got all the girls and all that nonsense. 858 00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:13,440 It was just nothing more than the front line of a band wanted to change their 859 00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:17,100 drama and it happens all the time. But because they did Pete the favor of not 860 00:56:17,100 --> 00:56:21,580 bad -mouthing him, all these rumors started and they still linger to this 861 00:56:22,780 --> 00:56:26,200 And there was also this campaign, Pete forever, Ringo never. 862 00:56:27,150 --> 00:56:30,830 It didn't last very long. You read in books about riots in Liverpool. 863 00:56:31,090 --> 00:56:32,770 I really don't think that was the case. 864 00:56:33,810 --> 00:56:40,430 But nonetheless, it was a vociferous few who didn't want change, who liked Pete. 865 00:56:40,690 --> 00:56:42,550 But it was a bit like with the suits. 866 00:56:42,790 --> 00:56:47,090 Nobody left. Nobody walked out on the Beatles because they had changed their 867 00:56:47,090 --> 00:56:50,570 drummer. They just stayed with them and accepted the new one. 868 00:56:52,230 --> 00:56:57,570 That same week, on the 22nd, which was a Wednesday, the lunchtime session, a TV 869 00:56:57,570 --> 00:57:01,890 crew came into the cavern for the very first time, advertising the Liverpool 870 00:57:01,890 --> 00:57:06,450 Echo. Granada TV cameras will be filming the Beatles. Now, this film wasn't seen 871 00:57:06,450 --> 00:57:10,910 at the time, but thank goodness Granada came in and did it. Leslie Woodhead and 872 00:57:10,910 --> 00:57:15,190 his crew came in and got the Beatles, the only bit of film of them in the 873 00:57:15,190 --> 00:57:18,770 cavern. The song that they did was Some Other Guy, and what a great piece of 874 00:57:18,770 --> 00:57:19,770 film that is. 875 00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:26,560 Someone's a guy now, taking my love away from me, oh now, someone's a guy now. 876 00:57:27,020 --> 00:57:33,800 Taking away my secret bottle now, someone's a guy now, just don't wanna 877 00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:34,960 my heart no more. 878 00:57:35,420 --> 00:57:37,480 I'm alone, alone, alone. 879 00:57:56,520 --> 00:58:00,300 God, how lucky were the fans in the cavern. They would have that at 880 00:58:00,300 --> 00:58:04,980 and two or three evenings a week. Imagine coming out of your office or the 881 00:58:04,980 --> 00:58:08,320 where you're working and going down, paying a shilling to go and see the 882 00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:10,000 Beatles, do that at lunchtime. 883 00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:14,880 And how different they are to Cliff Richard and Adam Faith and Billy Fury 884 00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:15,880 all that lot. 885 00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:21,540 They are so tame by comparison. You can see why, when we all get to see and hear 886 00:58:21,540 --> 00:58:25,520 the Beatles, why we all want them and want more of them, because they are so 887 00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:29,560 dynamic, so extraordinary on stage, so powerful as well. 888 00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:35,500 So that was the 22nd. On the 23rd of August, John gets married. This is all 889 00:58:35,500 --> 00:58:36,500 week. 890 00:58:39,140 --> 00:58:42,240 So I'm at 64 Mount Pleasant in the centre of Liverpool. 891 00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:47,100 On August 23rd, 1962, John Lennon came here to be married. 892 00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:51,820 He was marrying his art school girlfriend, Cynthia Powell, who was a 893 00:58:51,820 --> 00:58:55,720 months pregnant by this point, in the club, as they used to say. 894 00:58:56,160 --> 00:59:02,120 And he did what men did in those days, which was make an honest womb of her, to 895 00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:05,480 quote his own writing. But they tried to keep it as discreet as possible 896 00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:09,890 because... the beaters were building a fan following and the the mentality of 897 00:59:09,890 --> 00:59:13,510 that era was that you shouldn't be married if you were trying to become 898 00:59:13,510 --> 00:59:20,390 as a pop star there was someone out here with a pneumatic drill digging up the 899 00:59:20,390 --> 00:59:24,490 pavement so they could barely hear a word the registrar was saying paul 900 00:59:24,490 --> 00:59:28,610 mccartney was one of the witnesses to the wedding and brian epstein was the 901 00:59:28,610 --> 00:59:33,310 man came out of here Walked down the hill into town for a quiet wedding 902 00:59:33,570 --> 00:59:37,230 John had a gig with the Beatles that night, but he was now a married man. 903 00:59:37,850 --> 00:59:42,310 And Paul, George and Brian give John this wedding present. 904 00:59:43,770 --> 00:59:46,330 Unusually for a wedding present, it's a kind of travel kit. 905 00:59:46,750 --> 00:59:50,670 So here's what you do when you're going to leave your wife and come out on the 906 00:59:50,670 --> 00:59:51,670 road with us. 907 00:59:52,010 --> 00:59:56,430 But this was given very good service by John through the years. And in fact, the 908 00:59:56,430 --> 01:00:00,870 shaving bowl that you see in the bottom right there was taken on tour. 909 01:00:01,210 --> 01:00:05,010 All the Beatles tours, including America, they used that as an ashtray. 910 01:00:05,310 --> 01:00:09,610 So many a joint was stubbed out in that in later years. 911 01:00:10,890 --> 01:00:16,490 And finally, in this eventful week, George is nutted in the cavern on the 912 01:00:16,490 --> 01:00:18,950 by a local lad called Denny Flynn. 913 01:00:19,390 --> 01:00:24,690 But George believed, and Ringo did too, that actually he got that black eye from 914 01:00:24,690 --> 01:00:29,470 someone who was upset about Pete Best being fired and Ringo joining the 915 01:00:29,610 --> 01:00:34,210 And that gave George and Ringo yet another bond in their very close 916 01:00:34,210 --> 01:00:35,970 that they had, that they've already had. 917 01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:40,580 As Ringo said to George, you took a black eye for me. Thank you very much. 918 01:00:40,900 --> 01:00:44,360 So that's George's black eye. What a week that was. 919 01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:50,720 Every week, Brian Epstein would give the Beatles two sets of papers. One was a 920 01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:54,720 pay slip for the money that they had received, that they had earned, and also 921 01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:57,880 give them instructions for where they needed to go in the week to come. 922 01:00:58,360 --> 01:01:04,200 This is a remittance advice for the week ending September 7th, 1962. 923 01:01:05,390 --> 01:01:07,290 Each of the Beatles received one of these. 924 01:01:07,550 --> 01:01:13,730 It showed the group income, it showed the group expenses, and then any 925 01:01:13,730 --> 01:01:16,150 expenses incurred by that member of the Beatles. 926 01:01:16,430 --> 01:01:19,450 And it would all be calculated down to the last penny. 927 01:01:20,430 --> 01:01:25,090 And at the bottom was the net sum, ยฃ26 .07 .11. 928 01:01:25,750 --> 01:01:29,290 In this instance, given to Paul McCartney in cash. 929 01:01:29,850 --> 01:01:31,190 At this time... 930 01:01:31,550 --> 01:01:34,850 Someone would go up to the office on a Friday and collect these pieces of paper 931 01:01:34,850 --> 01:01:39,130 and the money, which would be in a little seal -easy envelope as if they 932 01:01:39,130 --> 01:01:42,170 being paid by the factory or wherever they might be working. 933 01:01:42,570 --> 01:01:46,310 But as their earnings increased, Brian encouraged them each to open a bank 934 01:01:46,310 --> 01:01:49,730 account and would deposit most of the money in the bank account and just give 935 01:01:49,730 --> 01:01:51,010 them some spending cash. 936 01:01:52,350 --> 01:01:57,190 So Brian Epstein really was a scrupulously fair man. They could see 937 01:01:57,190 --> 01:01:58,190 accounted for. 938 01:01:58,430 --> 01:02:02,350 the other document he would give them would be something like this this is for 939 01:02:02,350 --> 01:02:07,490 the week beginning september the 23rd 1962 where they would be playing in the 940 01:02:07,490 --> 01:02:13,270 week to come and any instructions pertinent to those engagements so 941 01:02:13,270 --> 01:02:18,690 this you're doing two 45 minute sets The people here work really hard to make a 942 01:02:18,690 --> 01:02:22,330 good impression on them, whatever it might be that would be useful knowledge 943 01:02:22,330 --> 01:02:24,110 them when they went to play the gig. 944 01:02:24,330 --> 01:02:28,650 Brian came along and put it all down on paper and they knew they could actually 945 01:02:28,650 --> 01:02:29,750 see the road ahead. 946 01:02:30,990 --> 01:02:34,690 and Brian also promised the Beatles that he would break them out of Liverpool 947 01:02:34,690 --> 01:02:39,810 and get them elsewhere and in the year of 1962 he got the Beatles playing in 948 01:02:39,810 --> 01:02:43,490 these places as well so they're no longer in Liverpool seven nights a week 949 01:02:43,490 --> 01:02:46,690 they're now driving all over England and what they're doing is lighting fires 950 01:02:46,690 --> 01:02:52,570 everywhere they go and in 1963 all these fires join up into one huge 951 01:02:52,570 --> 01:02:53,570 conflagration 952 01:02:54,190 --> 01:02:57,510 And that is the breaking of the Beatles. But they're dropping into all these 953 01:02:57,510 --> 01:03:01,410 towns all over the country now and taking everybody by complete surprise 954 01:03:01,410 --> 01:03:04,550 because, believe me, no one had ever seen anything like them before. 955 01:03:05,390 --> 01:03:08,290 So incredible breath of fresh air that they were. 956 01:03:08,550 --> 01:03:12,970 And Brian also registered the name Beatles under the Business Names 957 01:03:12,970 --> 01:03:14,430 Act of 1916. 958 01:03:15,030 --> 01:03:20,810 And he registered the name for them, not for himself. So this now is registered 959 01:03:20,810 --> 01:03:25,330 to John, Paul, George and Ringo. And it means that nobody else can use their 960 01:03:25,330 --> 01:03:27,690 name. It belongs solely to them. 961 01:03:30,380 --> 01:03:31,600 This is Liverpool Airport. 962 01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:35,460 The new Liverpool Airport is over there that opened in the late 1980s. Liverpool 963 01:03:35,460 --> 01:03:37,360 John Lennon International Airport. 964 01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:40,460 But back in 1962, it was Liverpool Airport. 965 01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:45,260 And the reason I wanted to come here is because of this picture, which was taken 966 01:03:45,260 --> 01:03:47,020 on the 4th of September 1962. 967 01:03:48,260 --> 01:03:52,340 The Beatles are on the tarmac about to board the plane behind them that's going 968 01:03:52,340 --> 01:03:56,260 to bump them down to London on a little propeller plane, something like this. 969 01:03:57,160 --> 01:04:00,360 This was an important moment because they were going down for their first 970 01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:01,820 recording session at EMI. 971 01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:05,960 They were dreading an aspect of it, which was they were going down to do a 972 01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:08,280 they really don't want to do, which is How Do You Do It. 973 01:04:09,420 --> 01:04:12,280 They'd been forced to record it for their first recording. 974 01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:16,540 And Brian Epstein, the Beatles manager, said to them, this is an important 975 01:04:16,540 --> 01:04:18,760 moment, I feel it should be captured on camera. 976 01:04:19,660 --> 01:04:23,080 And so this is not a proper press picture, it's just a little snap that he 977 01:04:23,300 --> 01:04:27,100 But it's caught them on a fresh autumnal morning. 978 01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:29,320 They really don't look very happy here. 979 01:04:29,580 --> 01:04:33,200 I particularly like the fact that you can still see George Harrison's black 980 01:04:34,340 --> 01:04:36,820 Where we are is pretty much unchanged. 981 01:04:37,060 --> 01:04:42,420 In 1964, famously, the Beatles returned to Liverpool for their civic reception 982 01:04:42,420 --> 01:04:43,760 at the Town Hall. 983 01:04:44,330 --> 01:04:48,410 and the northern premiere of their film, The Hard Day's Night. So they flew back 984 01:04:48,410 --> 01:04:54,110 to a tumultuous reception, this place absolutely full of people, and then they 985 01:04:54,110 --> 01:04:59,170 had this incredible drive to the centre of Liverpool with crowds lining the 986 01:04:59,170 --> 01:05:00,310 route the entire way. 987 01:05:03,270 --> 01:05:07,710 Having endured their bumpy flight down from Liverpool Airport to London, the 988 01:05:07,710 --> 01:05:10,010 Beatles came here to EMI Recording Studios. 989 01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:15,900 September 4th, 1962, to record their first single. It was their second visit, 990 01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:17,000 the first one with Pete. 991 01:05:17,140 --> 01:05:19,420 Now they had their new drummer, Ringo Starr. 992 01:05:19,900 --> 01:05:23,440 This is the context, however. This is the issue of Record Mirror that was 993 01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:24,440 current that week. 994 01:05:24,580 --> 01:05:28,880 And it just goes to show how nothing was about groups or bands. 995 01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:33,240 The Beatles were really quite revolutionary. It's been forgotten now. 996 01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:37,580 time, the three guitars and drums and three guys singing at the front hadn't 997 01:05:37,580 --> 01:05:38,980 really been done by anybody else. 998 01:05:39,360 --> 01:05:44,240 it was all about solo singers and in this case Cliff or Elvis so that was the 999 01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:47,900 world the Beatles were entering and hoping to change I've got this picture 1000 01:05:47,900 --> 01:05:52,560 the session what I like about this one is that Ringo had this mad moment during 1001 01:05:52,560 --> 01:05:56,980 the session where he was unsure whether to use the toms or whether to use a 1002 01:05:56,980 --> 01:05:58,380 tambourine or the maracas 1003 01:05:59,100 --> 01:06:03,060 So he ended up hitting the tom -toms with the maracas and hitting them with 1004 01:06:03,060 --> 01:06:06,800 tambourine to try and make sure that all bases were covered. And the people 1005 01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:10,440 behind the glass, the EMI people, were going, what on earth is that man doing? 1006 01:06:11,100 --> 01:06:13,400 But Ringo was nervous. He'd never been in the studio. 1007 01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:16,880 And the session went OK. It wasn't brilliant. 1008 01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:19,680 This is the tape log from EMI that day. 1009 01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:25,480 The tape library log at EMI Studios has the beat less recording. 1010 01:06:26,540 --> 01:06:28,400 How do you do and love me do? 1011 01:06:29,220 --> 01:06:34,280 Another useful reminder of just what a strange name Beatles was. We're so 1012 01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:39,160 familiar with it. We know how brilliant that name was. But at the time, after 1013 01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:42,520 all, people were saying, you'll never make it with a name like that. George 1014 01:06:42,520 --> 01:06:45,260 Martin had called them the Beatles, and now they're the Beatles. 1015 01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:48,840 No one seems to be able to get it right at this time. 1016 01:06:59,690 --> 01:07:05,550 In September 1962, on the 7th, there's now a plaque to mark the moment, the 1017 01:07:05,550 --> 01:07:09,910 Beatles came to this fairly rural part of the Wirral, across the water from 1018 01:07:09,910 --> 01:07:16,570 Liverpool, and they played a show here, and they were offered a ยฃ35 fee, which 1019 01:07:16,570 --> 01:07:19,610 was deemed to be acceptable. It was about the going rate at that time. 1020 01:07:20,310 --> 01:07:24,350 And so they played for an evening, and then the woman who organised it found 1021 01:07:24,350 --> 01:07:27,970 that she couldn't raise the ยฃ35, needed... 1022 01:07:28,460 --> 01:07:32,940 a few extra pounds to cover the shortfall, and arranged for there to be 1023 01:07:32,940 --> 01:07:36,820 sale here a few days later to raise the extra funds. 1024 01:07:37,060 --> 01:07:41,100 I rather love the fact that the cakes were sold in order to pay for the 1025 01:07:41,100 --> 01:07:45,360 to appear in a hall. And also the fact that they were playing places like this 1026 01:07:45,360 --> 01:07:49,560 just about, what, four or five months before they had their first number one 1027 01:07:49,560 --> 01:07:52,920 hit. They were a local group and they were playing local halls. 1028 01:07:53,460 --> 01:07:55,400 And it was only, what? 1029 01:07:55,760 --> 01:08:00,480 three years from here to Shea Stadium in New York. And that arc, that span of 1030 01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:04,980 the Beatles' trajectory, if you like, is an extraordinary one, that they went 1031 01:08:04,980 --> 01:08:09,720 from these kind of humble halls to great baseball stadiums in such a short space 1032 01:08:09,720 --> 01:08:10,720 of time. 1033 01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:15,040 It's one of those other occasions for which we have a set list, and the really 1034 01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:19,020 interesting thing about this is if you look eight songs down, they're doing How 1035 01:08:19,020 --> 01:08:21,060 Do You Do, How Do You Do It. 1036 01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:26,060 Believing it's going to be their new record, through gritted teeth, they're 1037 01:08:26,060 --> 01:08:27,560 playing it on stage live. 1038 01:08:28,319 --> 01:08:32,000 So this is the set list, and you can see the kind of artists that they're 1039 01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:36,100 covering. Chuck Berry, Little Richard, Elvis, The Shirelles, Arthur Alexander. 1040 01:08:36,100 --> 01:08:38,979 It's almost all American, two Goffin and King songs. 1041 01:08:39,380 --> 01:08:43,319 Also on here, worthy of note, Forgot to Remember to Forget. 1042 01:08:44,300 --> 01:08:49,120 That's an Elvis Presley song for Mal. Mal Evans, who didn't yet work for the 1043 01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:52,760 Beatles, but whenever he turned up, they would do an Elvis number for Mal 1044 01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:54,760 because he was such a big Elvis Presley fan. 1045 01:08:55,500 --> 01:08:57,939 And I've put the vocalist down the left -hand side. 1046 01:08:58,140 --> 01:09:02,040 And the key thing to notice is that George Harrison in those days sung as 1047 01:09:02,040 --> 01:09:06,140 songs on stage as John and Paul. In fact, there was usually a pattern of 1048 01:09:06,200 --> 01:09:11,479 Paul, John, George, Paul, John. That changed in 1963 when the Beatles' sets 1049 01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:15,279 naturally shrunk. They were playing less time on stage and they were having to 1050 01:09:15,279 --> 01:09:19,420 do their hits, which typically were sung by John or Paul or both of them. And so 1051 01:09:19,420 --> 01:09:21,080 George then got marginalised. 1052 01:09:21,630 --> 01:09:25,649 What happens next, and they don't even understand or ever explain the reasons 1053 01:09:25,649 --> 01:09:31,609 why, is that George Martin is told that Love Me Do must be the A -side, and How 1054 01:09:31,609 --> 01:09:36,830 Do You Do It can't be on the record at all. And even though he's in charge, the 1055 01:09:36,830 --> 01:09:39,630 people who are really pulling the strings are Ardmore and Beachwood, who 1056 01:09:39,630 --> 01:09:42,970 made the Beatles get signed in the first place. They're going to get the 1057 01:09:42,970 --> 01:09:46,810 publishing on the songs, and they say, we're not going to be fobbed off with a 1058 01:09:46,810 --> 01:09:48,850 -side to a song that we don't even publish. 1059 01:09:49,189 --> 01:09:53,310 And so George Martin relapses. he doesn't even like Love Me Do, has to 1060 01:09:53,310 --> 01:09:54,950 that it's going to be the A -side. 1061 01:10:14,530 --> 01:10:16,070 So this is our living room? 1062 01:10:17,450 --> 01:10:18,690 Yeah, very nice. 1063 01:10:19,470 --> 01:10:25,010 The use of this place was a wedding gift to John and Cynthia from Brian Epstein, 1064 01:10:25,150 --> 01:10:26,129 the Beatles' manager. 1065 01:10:26,130 --> 01:10:27,610 They really had nowhere to live. 1066 01:10:28,510 --> 01:10:32,490 So Brian very kindly said that you should have this place. Right. 1067 01:10:32,930 --> 01:10:35,150 Which would have been a godsend for them, I think. 1068 01:10:39,790 --> 01:10:42,430 It's great to be here. I always wanted to come into this place. 1069 01:10:42,970 --> 01:10:47,170 Yes, to live here is just such a huge honour because the Beatles are my 1070 01:10:47,170 --> 01:10:48,170 favourite band. 1071 01:10:48,510 --> 01:10:52,330 I'd known about this property for a while until I actually moved in here. It 1072 01:10:52,330 --> 01:10:53,330 unbelievable, really. 1073 01:10:53,510 --> 01:10:57,510 Yeah. This wouldn't have changed, really, would it? I mean, that big 1074 01:10:57,510 --> 01:10:58,510 the view out. 1075 01:10:58,530 --> 01:11:02,170 Is that a church there? I think it's a Greek Orthodox church they had a view 1076 01:11:02,630 --> 01:11:04,030 Oh, yeah, I know the one it is. 1077 01:11:04,570 --> 01:11:09,010 Cynthia Lennon tells a story, doesn't she, about feeding Ringo. 1078 01:11:09,470 --> 01:11:15,210 I think she used to make Vesta curry, a dreadful early British curry mix that 1079 01:11:15,210 --> 01:11:16,210 you could buy in a supermarket. 1080 01:11:17,110 --> 01:11:20,510 And he was probably pushing it around the plate, wondering what the heck it 1081 01:11:21,230 --> 01:11:27,030 So this picture here, this very early picture of John and Cynthia, was very 1082 01:11:27,030 --> 01:11:28,290 likely taken in this flat. 1083 01:11:29,250 --> 01:11:30,570 I don't know who took it, though. 1084 01:11:30,830 --> 01:11:33,190 Maybe it was Paul or Brian. 1085 01:11:33,470 --> 01:11:34,470 It could have been Brian. 1086 01:11:35,190 --> 01:11:36,870 So I feel that you should have it. 1087 01:11:37,350 --> 01:11:38,350 Really? Yeah. 1088 01:11:38,450 --> 01:11:41,370 Whether you want it or not, you're having it here. That's going up on the 1089 01:11:41,450 --> 01:11:43,690 I'll tell you now. And they've got a cat just like we do. 1090 01:11:43,950 --> 01:11:46,510 Yeah, the Siamese cat is the star of that picture, really. 1091 01:11:47,090 --> 01:11:49,630 Looking dead into the camera. Yeah, yeah. 1092 01:11:50,830 --> 01:11:56,310 But it's some significance, this place, because of the timing of it. The fact 1093 01:11:56,310 --> 01:12:01,510 that it was that period of like August, September 62 through the end of the 1094 01:12:01,510 --> 01:12:04,950 year, you know, I mean, that's when the first record comes out. They make the 1095 01:12:04,950 --> 01:12:08,230 charts, you know, they're becoming stars, you know. 1096 01:12:08,750 --> 01:12:13,150 Paul McCartney has always had a very specific memory of being here when they 1097 01:12:13,150 --> 01:12:16,970 made that crucial decision to have everything in both names. 1098 01:12:17,570 --> 01:12:21,150 So whether Lennon wrote the whole song or Paul or McCartney wrote the whole 1099 01:12:21,150 --> 01:12:23,370 song, it would go down as joint names. 1100 01:12:23,750 --> 01:12:30,430 Brian Epstein brought this document here to the flat and signed it on behalf of 1101 01:12:30,430 --> 01:12:33,910 Lennon and McCartney for the first two songs, Love Me Do and P .S. I Love You, 1102 01:12:33,970 --> 01:12:35,230 the two sides of their first record. 1103 01:12:35,780 --> 01:12:39,300 There's a signature like that. That's Brian's signature, yeah. In fact, Brian 1104 01:12:39,300 --> 01:12:43,600 actually does specify in his handwriting that it should be McCartney -Lennon. 1105 01:12:43,800 --> 01:12:44,800 There it is. 1106 01:12:45,060 --> 01:12:47,480 And it ended up being Lennon -McCartney by mistake. 1107 01:12:51,099 --> 01:12:55,240 Liverpool's Beatles history is well mapped out and it's a big part of the 1108 01:12:55,240 --> 01:12:58,200 tourism industry here. Do you experience much of that? 1109 01:12:58,520 --> 01:13:03,600 Yeah, like every week there's a crowd of people outside the house all tearing in 1110 01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:04,559 through the window. 1111 01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:06,840 But it's still incredibly cool. 1112 01:13:07,240 --> 01:13:11,440 Yeah, yeah, it is very special to be living here. But I think John probably 1113 01:13:11,440 --> 01:13:15,380 would have approved of the fact that a working musician is here writing songs 1114 01:13:15,380 --> 01:13:16,520 and recording as well. 1115 01:13:16,760 --> 01:13:20,580 Yeah, well, I'd like to think so. It's just a really cool thought to think that 1116 01:13:20,580 --> 01:13:26,440 I'm sat here writing music in the very same space where one of the legends of 1117 01:13:26,440 --> 01:13:27,440 art that you might have been. 1118 01:13:27,680 --> 01:13:28,680 Yeah, that's right. 1119 01:13:29,260 --> 01:13:33,620 With Love Me Do about to come out, the Beatles need new publicity pictures, and 1120 01:13:33,620 --> 01:13:37,700 the emphasis is, we're from Liverpool, we're from the north, and what is that 1121 01:13:37,700 --> 01:13:38,700 associated with? 1122 01:13:38,940 --> 01:13:45,000 Industry. We're standing on Dublin Street in Liverpool, and the next 1123 01:13:45,040 --> 01:13:49,760 Saltney Street, these two are like a pair, and in between them was... 1124 01:13:50,120 --> 01:13:55,440 In 1962, a patch of land just like that. Something had been here, been cleared 1125 01:13:55,440 --> 01:14:01,820 away, and the Beatles came for a publicity photo session and stood there 1126 01:14:01,820 --> 01:14:04,600 patch of land with this extraordinary bonded warehouse in the background. 1127 01:14:04,960 --> 01:14:09,820 And it was kind of derelict then. It's even more so now, 60 -odd years on. The 1128 01:14:09,820 --> 01:14:13,420 idea is it essays that they're from a northern working -class area. 1129 01:14:13,760 --> 01:14:18,820 When I was researching my book Tune In, I did deep... Deep genealogical research 1130 01:14:18,820 --> 01:14:23,000 into all the beetles and found that when the Lennon family arrived in Liverpool 1131 01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:29,940 from Ireland in the 1840s, they actually lived right here for several years in 1132 01:14:29,940 --> 01:14:31,140 the most appalling conditions. 1133 01:14:31,640 --> 01:14:32,820 They were called courthouses. 1134 01:14:33,040 --> 01:14:37,140 Open sewerage, no running water, children with bare feet. 1135 01:14:37,800 --> 01:14:42,140 children dying of the most elementary conditions, and lots of pubs around 1136 01:14:42,180 --> 01:14:45,040 which is where all the money that should have been spent on families and food 1137 01:14:45,040 --> 01:14:46,980 got spent behind the bar. 1138 01:14:47,540 --> 01:14:50,280 So it's a real bit of Liverpool history, this street. 1139 01:14:50,760 --> 01:14:54,720 Lennon is standing exactly where his family had lived, and I'm certain had no 1140 01:14:54,720 --> 01:14:55,720 knowledge of that. 1141 01:14:55,740 --> 01:15:01,220 It's about 120 years on, say, from when the Lennons arrived, and he's here 1142 01:15:01,220 --> 01:15:05,060 hoping to become a star, but his forefathers were here just... 1143 01:15:05,340 --> 01:15:12,140 scratching to put food on the plate love me do is coming out 1144 01:15:12,140 --> 01:15:16,680 these are the two sides of the record love me do and ps i love you on the 1145 01:15:16,680 --> 01:15:21,160 parlophone label both down as lennon mccartney songs by mistake but that's 1146 01:15:21,160 --> 01:15:27,000 another story and brian epstein decides he's not gonna miss any opportunity to 1147 01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:28,000 try and get the Beatles promoted. 1148 01:15:28,380 --> 01:15:32,340 He commissions the production of an independent press release, five pages I 1149 01:15:32,340 --> 01:15:36,700 think it is, introducing the Beatles. And the pictures he wants to use of John 1150 01:15:36,700 --> 01:15:41,580 and George are half -shadow pictures taken back in April by Astrid. We looked 1151 01:15:41,580 --> 01:15:42,398 that earlier. 1152 01:15:42,400 --> 01:15:47,360 But Paul wasn't there that day and Ringo, being a Beatle, hadn't met Astrid 1153 01:15:47,760 --> 01:15:52,320 So he couldn't ask Astrid to do it. So he had to go to Liverpool photographers 1154 01:15:52,320 --> 01:15:57,200 to try and match the pictures taken. of John and George back in April. 1155 01:15:57,440 --> 01:15:59,620 So they had solo photo sessions. 1156 01:15:59,980 --> 01:16:01,620 First Ringo, there's that one. 1157 01:16:02,040 --> 01:16:08,060 This, which has to be the worst ever picture of Ringo. What an appalling 1158 01:16:08,060 --> 01:16:11,720 photograph that is. Sorry, Ringo, for bringing that back up. 1159 01:16:11,960 --> 01:16:14,040 This one here, this one has got attitude. 1160 01:16:14,280 --> 01:16:17,100 I quite like that. I think that would make a good record cover to this day. 1161 01:16:17,580 --> 01:16:21,940 And Paul, this one, this is completely wrong. It's meant to have half your face 1162 01:16:21,940 --> 01:16:23,480 in shadow, not just half the face. 1163 01:16:24,170 --> 01:16:25,170 I don't know what happened there. 1164 01:16:25,670 --> 01:16:30,190 They're trying to look serious, obviously, because John and George did. 1165 01:16:30,810 --> 01:16:34,970 The worst ever photograph of such a lovely photogenic man as Paul McCartney. 1166 01:16:35,130 --> 01:16:37,510 Look at that. Really terrible picture. Sorry, Paul. 1167 01:16:38,150 --> 01:16:42,690 And this one, which doesn't really work either, but it's okay, I suppose. And 1168 01:16:42,690 --> 01:16:44,850 eventually they end up with these four pictures. 1169 01:16:45,250 --> 01:16:49,170 Brian had them printed as cards. John and George properly printed. 1170 01:16:49,470 --> 01:16:53,630 Paul and Ringo printed badly in a rush at the end because it was all taking so 1171 01:16:53,630 --> 01:16:54,630 long to organize. 1172 01:16:55,200 --> 01:16:59,160 But if you went into Brian's record shop, NEMS, you could pick these cards 1173 01:16:59,160 --> 01:17:02,100 free on the counter when Love Me Do came out. 1174 01:17:03,530 --> 01:17:06,990 They need a new contract now, and this is the Beatles' proper management 1175 01:17:06,990 --> 01:17:08,030 contract with Brian. 1176 01:17:08,550 --> 01:17:13,790 1st of October 1962, and everybody signs it this time, including Brian and 1177 01:17:13,790 --> 01:17:18,770 including Paul's dad, Jim McCartney, and George's father, Harold Hargreaves 1178 01:17:18,770 --> 01:17:22,190 Harrison. A mere six -page contract with double -line spacing. 1179 01:17:22,510 --> 01:17:26,170 There's not a lot. You don't need to fill out a book with the clauses of a 1180 01:17:26,170 --> 01:17:31,230 contract. You can get it down briefly, and this contract will be robust and 1181 01:17:31,230 --> 01:17:32,870 them all the way through the tours. 1182 01:17:33,130 --> 01:17:37,910 films shea stadium revolver sergeant pepper and it goes all the way up to the 1183 01:17:37,910 --> 01:17:43,530 end of september 1967 by which time brian epstein is dead so here he's not 1184 01:17:43,530 --> 01:17:47,010 for any more than five years from this point but this is the contract that will 1185 01:17:47,010 --> 01:17:50,490 hold them all the way through the peak years of the beatles 1186 01:17:52,750 --> 01:17:56,670 Why am I showing you a picture of a broken bus? Because there's a story 1187 01:17:56,670 --> 01:18:01,570 this. The Beatles go to London on John Lennon's birthday, October the 9th, 1188 01:18:01,790 --> 01:18:06,550 to promote themselves to the London -based newspapers and magazines. 1189 01:18:06,870 --> 01:18:10,770 And they are shunned absolutely everywhere they go but one place. 1190 01:18:11,030 --> 01:18:14,590 You'll never make it from Liverpool. Change your name Beatles. It's stupid. 1191 01:18:14,930 --> 01:18:17,550 Look at your hair. Look at the way you're dressed. 1192 01:18:17,790 --> 01:18:21,470 You know, you're never going to make it like that. One of their appointments is 1193 01:18:21,470 --> 01:18:26,950 at Pop Week. a really arcane magazine published from an office on the Edgware 1194 01:18:26,950 --> 01:18:32,250 Road by the impresario Robert Stigwood, the Australian impresario trying to make 1195 01:18:32,250 --> 01:18:33,228 his name in Britain. 1196 01:18:33,230 --> 01:18:39,950 Now, he was a manager of young lad, young boy actors who could also 1197 01:18:39,950 --> 01:18:42,790 sing. John Layton, Mike Sarn, Mike Berry. 1198 01:18:43,430 --> 01:18:48,310 and Billy Boyle. Robert Thigwood used to have plaster cast busts made of his 1199 01:18:48,310 --> 01:18:53,370 young lads, which he would give out to newspapers and magazines for promotion. 1200 01:18:53,370 --> 01:18:57,290 very strange thing to do. And one of them was sitting on the table when 1201 01:18:57,290 --> 01:18:58,290 doing this interview. 1202 01:18:58,990 --> 01:19:02,310 And the Beatles go there for an interview, hoping for some coverage in 1203 01:19:02,310 --> 01:19:06,190 Weekly. And it's one of those interviews where the man is being really 1204 01:19:06,190 --> 01:19:09,590 supercilious with them, the journalist interviewing them, and they've had 1205 01:19:09,590 --> 01:19:13,410 enough. And John Lennon was leading a walkout of the Beatles. They weren't 1206 01:19:13,410 --> 01:19:14,890 to put up with this nonsense anymore. 1207 01:19:15,310 --> 01:19:19,230 And as he gets up, he does that thing where you deliberately kind of extend 1208 01:19:19,230 --> 01:19:24,950 stomach and put it up the table as he gets up. And one of the bus falls over 1209 01:19:24,950 --> 01:19:25,950 breaks. 1210 01:19:26,090 --> 01:19:31,650 And it is a completely symbolic moment that the old is now very old and what 1211 01:19:31,650 --> 01:19:33,470 there is is the shock of the new. 1212 01:19:33,830 --> 01:19:39,330 And they storm out of there leaving this plaster cast bust behind them and they 1213 01:19:39,330 --> 01:19:40,750 have arrived in London. 1214 01:19:40,970 --> 01:19:45,310 And the only place they get any joy that day is in Bermondsey in Southwark 1215 01:19:45,310 --> 01:19:47,910 Street at the newspaper Dance News. 1216 01:19:48,230 --> 01:19:53,370 They're interviewed there by a man called Derek Runciman and he likes the 1217 01:19:53,370 --> 01:19:58,030 Beatles. He remarks on their different un - English -style clothes, which was 1218 01:19:58,030 --> 01:19:59,030 sharp of him. 1219 01:19:59,750 --> 01:20:04,110 And then he ends by saying, I know it's an easy thing for critics to say, oh 1220 01:20:04,110 --> 01:20:08,130 yes, they're going to make it big, and then later say, well, you can't always 1221 01:20:08,130 --> 01:20:12,430 right, but I shall hear with forecast that the Beatles are going to be very 1222 01:20:12,430 --> 01:20:16,410 and in time become one of the country's top -starring attractions. 1223 01:20:16,950 --> 01:20:20,550 So someone in London is actually a bit tuned in to who they are. 1224 01:20:20,830 --> 01:20:22,990 And there's one more thing I want to show you here. 1225 01:20:23,610 --> 01:20:27,250 This is a quote of John Lennon's. Remember that they're down in London to 1226 01:20:27,250 --> 01:20:31,010 promote their first record, Love Me Do, which has been out for four days. 1227 01:20:31,950 --> 01:20:35,690 John says, we weren't expecting big things with Love Me Do. In fact, we 1228 01:20:35,690 --> 01:20:36,690 so fond of it now. 1229 01:20:36,750 --> 01:20:39,450 We've already recorded our follow -up and we think it's great. 1230 01:20:40,240 --> 01:20:41,860 What an extraordinary thing to say. 1231 01:20:42,080 --> 01:20:46,340 But what a revealing comment that he makes right there. The first quoted 1232 01:20:46,340 --> 01:20:50,920 of a beetle in a London newspaper is typical of how they're going to be 1233 01:20:50,920 --> 01:20:53,600 the whole of the rest of the 60s, of moving on fast. 1234 01:20:53,900 --> 01:20:56,960 Yeah, we've made that, but it's the next one that's going to be really good. 1235 01:20:58,220 --> 01:21:03,820 This is the top 50 chart in record retailer. This was like a trade magazine 1236 01:21:03,820 --> 01:21:08,820 the record shops and record companies, not generally bought by the public. They 1237 01:21:08,820 --> 01:21:13,980 had a top 50 chart, and the Beatles enter in their first week of Love Me 1238 01:21:13,980 --> 01:21:18,740 sale at number 49, really on the basis of sales in Liverpool and the Northwest. 1239 01:21:19,120 --> 01:21:25,040 But their arrival on the chart in basically week one of release led to all 1240 01:21:25,040 --> 01:21:28,580 rumors in Liverpool that Brian Epstein had fabricated Fabricated the position. 1241 01:21:28,740 --> 01:21:33,620 He'd hyped the record into the chart by buying copies of it. One book says 10 1242 01:21:33,620 --> 01:21:35,240 ,000 copies he bought. 1243 01:21:35,520 --> 01:21:36,700 Complete and utter nonsense. 1244 01:21:37,020 --> 01:21:40,080 He didn't do that at all. He was against chart fabrication. 1245 01:21:40,660 --> 01:21:42,620 But that's how the rumor started. 1246 01:21:42,900 --> 01:21:44,840 They got into the chart. It must be a fix. 1247 01:21:45,060 --> 01:21:48,880 And that rumor dogged Brian Epstein for the whole of the rest of his life. And 1248 01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:52,280 it's still around to this day. I was watching on YouTube the other day George 1249 01:21:52,280 --> 01:21:56,500 Martin in the 1990s saying, love me dude, got in the chart because Brian 1250 01:21:56,500 --> 01:21:57,900 hyped. That's complete nonsense. 1251 01:21:58,340 --> 01:22:03,720 He didn't do that. It was legitimate sales and it's only at 49, but it is in 1252 01:22:03,720 --> 01:22:05,940 first week and it's going to stay there. 1253 01:22:07,200 --> 01:22:11,240 Liverpool had its own chart at that time in the Liverpool Echo newspaper. 1254 01:22:12,180 --> 01:22:17,080 A phone around of the local shops produced this chart on a weekly basis 1255 01:22:17,080 --> 01:22:19,880 Beatles have gone straight in at number one. 1256 01:22:20,240 --> 01:22:24,120 Actually, there's a typo there because it says they were number one last week 1257 01:22:24,120 --> 01:22:25,780 well. It should really look like that. 1258 01:22:26,590 --> 01:22:31,050 Now, all the way through to this day, the Beatles go into charts at number 1259 01:22:31,510 --> 01:22:35,830 They've always done it, and it's a fantastic hallmark of their career. They 1260 01:22:35,830 --> 01:22:39,670 it even with their very first record. There is a chart where Love Me Do goes 1261 01:22:39,670 --> 01:22:41,350 straight in at number one. 1262 01:22:42,450 --> 01:22:47,410 Now, here's Love Me Do as released in America by the Capitol record label 1263 01:22:47,410 --> 01:22:49,490 by EMI, except nope. 1264 01:22:50,030 --> 01:22:55,090 That didn't happen. EMI owned Capitol Records, which was a big US record label 1265 01:22:55,090 --> 01:22:56,190 based in Los Angeles. 1266 01:22:56,950 --> 01:23:02,490 Capitol had right of first refusal on every piece of product that EMI London 1267 01:23:02,490 --> 01:23:06,490 out, and that was the good term, refusal, because they refused 1268 01:23:06,990 --> 01:23:11,330 They felt that no one in America was interested in hearing any English music, 1269 01:23:11,330 --> 01:23:13,210 they just kept saying, nope, nope, nope. 1270 01:23:14,090 --> 01:23:19,970 But the idea of making it in America was the aim of all British talent. And at 1271 01:23:19,970 --> 01:23:25,290 this very time, in late 1962, Cliff Richard was making his attempt to break 1272 01:23:25,290 --> 01:23:29,770 America. And he went to New York and Marty, another of those Weekly Girls 1273 01:23:29,770 --> 01:23:33,050 comics, did a photo feature on Cliff in New York. 1274 01:23:33,370 --> 01:23:35,890 Remarkable for how unmolested he is being. 1275 01:23:36,470 --> 01:23:42,330 There is no Cliff mania happening in New York. And in fact, rather amusingly, it 1276 01:23:42,330 --> 01:23:46,150 actually said in there, Cliff's biggest thrill during his fabulous stateside 1277 01:23:46,150 --> 01:23:51,010 tour, it was when he was told he'd have to return home again halfway through to 1278 01:23:51,010 --> 01:23:52,630 appear in the Royal Variety performance. 1279 01:23:53,250 --> 01:23:56,330 So Cliff, unfortunately, never did really break America. 1280 01:23:56,630 --> 01:23:58,370 But at this time... 1281 01:23:59,270 --> 01:24:03,650 Amazingly, by complete coincidence, independent of one another, a whole load 1282 01:24:03,650 --> 01:24:07,570 British talent was trying to make it big in America, all in New York. Cliff 1283 01:24:07,570 --> 01:24:12,850 Richard, Kenny Ball, Chris Barber, Acker Bilk, Frank Highfield, Shirley Bassey, 1284 01:24:12,970 --> 01:24:17,890 Helen Shapiro, Lonnie Donegan, The Shadows, who were there with Cliff, and 1285 01:24:17,890 --> 01:24:23,630 the Alberts, George Martin's bonzo -like madcap group, who were doing a season 1286 01:24:23,630 --> 01:24:27,150 of Cabaret there. What an extraordinary thing that they're all trying to break 1287 01:24:27,150 --> 01:24:32,220 America at the same time. time and they all flop miserably none of them actually 1288 01:24:32,220 --> 01:24:38,960 ever really makes it there towards the end of 62 1289 01:24:38,960 --> 01:24:42,220 a rare thing happened to the Beatles and that is that they had a couple of days 1290 01:24:42,220 --> 01:24:45,920 off very rare for them because they were working really hard all of that year 1291 01:24:45,920 --> 01:24:50,780 most years in fact so Paul had a new girlfriend at that time called Celia 1292 01:24:50,780 --> 01:24:55,340 Mortimer that's Celia she was a fashion student at the College of Art in 1293 01:24:55,340 --> 01:24:56,340 Liverpool 1294 01:24:56,360 --> 01:25:00,040 And Paul said to Celia, let's hitchhike down to London because my mate Ivan, 1295 01:25:00,200 --> 01:25:05,840 which is Ivan Vaughan, who introduced him to John in 57, Ivan Vaughan is 1296 01:25:05,840 --> 01:25:08,060 as a doorman at the Establishment Club. 1297 01:25:09,180 --> 01:25:13,120 And this was where they came to, the Establishment Club at 18 Greek Street, 1298 01:25:13,180 --> 01:25:18,780 which is where we are standing right now, opened by Peter Cook in 1961. 1299 01:25:19,860 --> 01:25:23,160 London's first satire club, first comedy club in essence. 1300 01:25:23,940 --> 01:25:28,640 And Ivan is standing in his... cumabund and his dinner jacket on the door and 1301 01:25:28,640 --> 01:25:33,020 they went into the club paul and celia it was quite late i think most of the 1302 01:25:33,020 --> 01:25:37,800 action had finished by the time they arrived but ivan signed them in and they 1303 01:25:37,800 --> 01:25:42,040 went downstairs to the basement to the live where the live band was playing and 1304 01:25:42,040 --> 01:25:45,760 as the song would say they danced through the night and held each other 1305 01:25:45,760 --> 01:25:51,520 the club eventually closed about 3 a .m And Ivan said, come on, you can go back 1306 01:25:51,520 --> 01:25:53,340 to my place and sleep on the floor. 1307 01:25:53,600 --> 01:25:57,680 Now, I said to Celia when I was interviewing her, where was that that 1308 01:25:57,680 --> 01:26:01,040 crashed on the floor that night? And she said somewhere in Great Portland 1309 01:26:01,040 --> 01:26:04,740 Street, I think. She knew London quite well, Great Portland Street. So I got in 1310 01:26:04,740 --> 01:26:08,760 touch with Ivan's widow, Jan, and said, where was Ivan's place in London? 1311 01:26:09,120 --> 01:26:11,620 Great Portland Street. Do you remember where? No. 1312 01:26:12,440 --> 01:26:16,580 So I checked out the electoral records and thankfully Ivan had registered to 1313 01:26:16,580 --> 01:26:21,080 vote. And he lived in Seaford Court up the top end of Great Portland Street 1314 01:26:21,080 --> 01:26:22,080 the Marylebone Road. 1315 01:26:22,220 --> 01:26:25,840 And I thought, aha, I know that address already because... 1316 01:26:26,830 --> 01:26:29,130 That was also where the Ashes had lived. 1317 01:26:29,410 --> 01:26:32,670 Paul is going to go and live with the Asher family when he's starting his 1318 01:26:32,670 --> 01:26:34,270 relationship with Jane in 63. 1319 01:26:34,550 --> 01:26:38,550 Goes and lives with them. He writes yesterday in their house on Wimpole 1320 01:26:38,710 --> 01:26:43,430 Before Wimpole Street, they lived here in Seaford Court. And Paul is there in 1321 01:26:43,430 --> 01:26:48,010 the very same building where Jane and Peter grew up. What an extraordinary 1322 01:26:48,010 --> 01:26:52,430 coincidence that is. And even more so because their mother, Margaret, taught 1323 01:26:52,430 --> 01:26:53,430 oboe. 1324 01:26:53,760 --> 01:26:57,980 and someone came for private tuition of the oboe, and that was George Martin. 1325 01:26:58,420 --> 01:27:03,420 So this one address in London where Paul happens to kit for the night in October 1326 01:27:03,420 --> 01:27:08,020 62 has all this Asher and George Martin history. How remarkable the Beatles 1327 01:27:08,020 --> 01:27:11,840 story is. And when I'm researching it and I'm in libraries and archives, I 1328 01:27:11,840 --> 01:27:15,340 the greatest joy, because every time you want something to connect, it always 1329 01:27:15,340 --> 01:27:19,540 connects in exactly the right way, as if you were making it up, but you're not, 1330 01:27:19,640 --> 01:27:21,140 because it's actually all true. 1331 01:27:23,600 --> 01:27:27,340 So the postscript for the night before is that having spent the night on Great 1332 01:27:27,340 --> 01:27:31,480 Portland Street, Paul and Celia, before hitchhiking back to Liverpool, came for 1333 01:27:31,480 --> 01:27:35,840 a short walk here to Fitzroy Square because they wanted to see the 1334 01:27:35,840 --> 01:27:40,560 of a new London landmark that was going up, the Post Office Tower. The rise of 1335 01:27:40,560 --> 01:27:45,500 this great London monument that symbolised all that was new and exciting 1336 01:27:45,500 --> 01:27:47,160 modern in the 1960s. 1337 01:27:47,760 --> 01:27:52,480 And Celia remembers that Paul was writing a song, which became I Saw Her 1338 01:27:52,480 --> 01:27:56,300 Standing There, referencing what had happened to them a few hours earlier of 1339 01:27:56,300 --> 01:28:00,200 dancing through the night and holding each other tight. So I Saw Her Standing 1340 01:28:00,200 --> 01:28:02,960 There was part written here in Fitzroy Square. 1341 01:28:05,200 --> 01:28:08,980 NME was the paper that the Beatles used to read. We had the Melody Maker, the 1342 01:28:08,980 --> 01:28:14,200 New Musical Express, Disc and Record Mirror, four weekly music papers. How 1343 01:28:14,200 --> 01:28:18,260 extraordinary is that? The New Musical Express was the chart that everyone 1344 01:28:18,260 --> 01:28:21,380 looked at, and the Beatles go in at number 27. 1345 01:28:21,860 --> 01:28:26,700 And this really was such a major moment for them that I found an interview with 1346 01:28:26,700 --> 01:28:31,800 Paul McCartney from, I think, 1987, in which he remembered this entry at number 1347 01:28:31,800 --> 01:28:37,260 27 more clearly than any other. of the number ones that eventually followed. 1348 01:28:37,260 --> 01:28:41,620 here he is talking about it. I had this car and I was coming up by this ballroom 1349 01:28:41,620 --> 01:28:42,620 called the Grafton. 1350 01:28:42,800 --> 01:28:46,080 It's two ballrooms, two famous ballrooms in Liverpool, the Grafton and the 1351 01:28:46,080 --> 01:28:51,460 Locarno. And I remember finding out, I'd just bought the NME, I think. 1352 01:28:51,860 --> 01:28:53,900 We'd come in the chart at 27. 1353 01:28:55,000 --> 01:28:58,920 Just wanted to wind the windows down and shout at everyone outside the Grafton, 1354 01:28:59,020 --> 01:29:02,460 we're number 27, we've made it. 1355 01:29:03,000 --> 01:29:06,800 I remember just wanting to tell everyone, you know, we really are in 1356 01:29:06,800 --> 01:29:11,000 chart. Those things we'd been reading for years, you know, and seeing all the 1357 01:29:11,000 --> 01:29:12,860 hits come and go up and down. 1358 01:29:13,760 --> 01:29:16,900 Finally, we actually had a little place on the ladder, you know. 1359 01:29:17,580 --> 01:29:21,680 So it's true for all our lives. There are certain moments that really make the 1360 01:29:21,680 --> 01:29:22,659 deepest impact. 1361 01:29:22,660 --> 01:29:26,980 A whole career of number ones, but he remembers going in at number 27 because 1362 01:29:26,980 --> 01:29:30,140 that was the moment when it really began to change for them. 1363 01:29:31,560 --> 01:29:36,160 We're in Port Sunlight and there's this glorious hall here called Hume Hall. 1364 01:29:36,420 --> 01:29:41,540 The Beatles played here four times in 1962 and the last of them was the 1365 01:29:41,540 --> 01:29:42,840 of the Cuban Missile Crisis. 1366 01:29:43,560 --> 01:29:48,560 And it also happened to be when a man called Monty Lister came along to Hume 1367 01:29:48,560 --> 01:29:53,820 Hall to record the Beatles for hospital radio programmes here on the Wirral. 1368 01:29:54,270 --> 01:29:57,690 So I always wondered where this photograph had been taken and it turns 1369 01:29:57,690 --> 01:30:03,230 this little cold room this storage room on the side of the hall and it was right 1370 01:30:03,230 --> 01:30:08,190 here where we're standing you can see the door frame is the same it no longer 1371 01:30:08,190 --> 01:30:12,250 says exit up there because I think it no longer leads to an exit but that's 1372 01:30:12,250 --> 01:30:16,470 where it would have been. It was the first ever Beatles interview they gave I 1373 01:30:16,470 --> 01:30:19,370 don't know how many thousands of interviews in the years that followed. 1374 01:30:20,250 --> 01:30:25,250 but there had to be a first and it was right here on this very spot and i've 1375 01:30:25,250 --> 01:30:32,150 an old tape machine here and i have the actual recording 1376 01:30:32,150 --> 01:30:39,150 here i bought it off monty uh who was late in life in 1985 and 1377 01:30:39,150 --> 01:30:45,450 this is the original spool of tape emmy tape made by emi 1378 01:30:45,450 --> 01:30:51,580 there it is The Beatles' first ever interview. 1379 01:30:54,380 --> 01:30:57,520 And I'm going to attempt to put it on the machine without mangling it. 1380 01:31:01,660 --> 01:31:02,660 Play. 1381 01:31:06,900 --> 01:31:09,880 It's a very great pleasure for us this evening to say hello to an up -and 1382 01:31:09,880 --> 01:31:11,800 -coming Merseyside group, The Beatles. 1383 01:31:12,040 --> 01:31:15,040 And I know their names and I'm going to try and put faces to them. Now, you're 1384 01:31:15,040 --> 01:31:17,380 John Lennon, aren't you? Yes, that's right. What do you do in the group, 1385 01:31:17,640 --> 01:31:20,360 I play harmonica, rhythm, guitar and vocal. 1386 01:31:21,360 --> 01:31:22,480 That's what they call it, isn't it? 1387 01:31:22,760 --> 01:31:25,800 Harmonica, rhythm, guitar and vocal. Then there's Paul McCartney, that's you. 1388 01:31:26,060 --> 01:31:27,060 Yeah, that's me, yeah. And what do you do? 1389 01:31:27,300 --> 01:31:33,100 Play bass guitar and sing, I think. Oh, that's quite apart from being vocal. 1390 01:31:33,460 --> 01:31:34,460 Well, yeah. 1391 01:31:34,860 --> 01:31:36,220 Then there's George Harrison. 1392 01:31:36,700 --> 01:31:37,700 How do you do? 1393 01:31:37,740 --> 01:31:41,480 How do you do? What's your job? Lead guitar and sort of singing. 1394 01:31:42,730 --> 01:31:45,350 By playing lead guitar, does that mean you're sort of leader of the group, or 1395 01:31:45,350 --> 01:31:47,990 are you... No, no. Well, you see, the other guitar is the rhythm. 1396 01:31:48,330 --> 01:31:52,190 Yeah. Ting -ting -ting, you see. This solo guitar, you see, John is in fact 1397 01:31:52,190 --> 01:31:53,190 leader of the group. 1398 01:31:53,690 --> 01:31:58,010 And over in the background, making a lot of noise, is Ringo Starr. Hello. 1399 01:31:58,330 --> 01:32:00,950 You're new to the group, aren't you? Yes, nine weeks now. 1400 01:32:01,330 --> 01:32:04,930 So it's a very special recording in so many ways. 1401 01:32:05,420 --> 01:32:08,860 I think it's incredible that more than 60 years have passed since the recording 1402 01:32:08,860 --> 01:32:12,120 was made and the photograph was taken. So much has changed in the world. 1403 01:32:12,540 --> 01:32:16,820 And the Beatles went on to have the most extraordinary time together and the 1404 01:32:16,820 --> 01:32:19,380 impact of what they did is still being felt. 1405 01:32:19,640 --> 01:32:24,020 But at this time they're just a local group having to introduce themselves by 1406 01:32:24,020 --> 01:32:26,480 name because the man doesn't necessarily know who they are. 1407 01:32:28,040 --> 01:32:32,220 So after 60 plus years, to bring the tape back to the place where it was 1408 01:32:32,220 --> 01:32:34,940 recorded, there's something magical about that. 1409 01:32:35,920 --> 01:32:36,920 Love me do. 1410 01:32:37,600 --> 01:32:41,520 It came out because Kim Bennett at Ardmore and Beachwood wanted to have the 1411 01:32:41,520 --> 01:32:42,800 publishing of The Beatles. 1412 01:32:43,160 --> 01:32:47,660 And here he is. We looked at him earlier. He is the great unsung hero of 1413 01:32:47,660 --> 01:32:48,499 Beatles story. 1414 01:32:48,500 --> 01:32:51,880 If it wasn't for Kim Bennett, they wouldn't have been signed by George 1415 01:32:52,280 --> 01:32:57,540 And he is now actively trying to justify his opinion by making Love Me Do a hit. 1416 01:32:57,960 --> 01:33:04,900 And he was a very dedicated and very committed man. I met him and I 1417 01:33:04,900 --> 01:33:09,960 it firsthand just how determined he was. is to make sure that he's heard and i 1418 01:33:09,960 --> 01:33:13,980 was fortunate to interview him because soon after i did so he died and if i 1419 01:33:13,980 --> 01:33:17,040 hadn't have done so that early period of the beatles would always be a bit 1420 01:33:17,040 --> 01:33:20,720 mysterious because it never quite added up so kim bennett is the hero 1421 01:33:21,480 --> 01:33:26,040 Now, he's trying to get Love Me Do played everywhere he can, and one of the 1422 01:33:26,040 --> 01:33:31,280 plug spots is in Saturday Club. This is the most listened -to pop radio show of 1423 01:33:31,280 --> 01:33:35,280 the week, 10 o 'clock till 12 on a Saturday morning on the BBC Light 1424 01:33:35,780 --> 01:33:40,660 Mostly sessions, and the Beatles ended up doing many, but also some records, 1425 01:33:40,660 --> 01:33:45,100 he tried to get Love Me Do placed by coercing the producer, Jimmy Grant. 1426 01:33:46,320 --> 01:33:50,860 Unbeknownst to Kim Bennett... having succeeded in persuading Jimmy to 1427 01:33:50,860 --> 01:33:55,760 put Love Me Do into the programme, Brian Epstein at the same time, yet another 1428 01:33:55,760 --> 01:33:59,500 document he was producing, this kind of newsletter for the Beatles fans in 1429 01:33:59,500 --> 01:34:05,620 Liverpool, he's saying quite legitimately that why don't fan club 1430 01:34:05,620 --> 01:34:09,140 the group tremendously by writing to the BBC and asking for their record to be 1431 01:34:09,140 --> 01:34:13,120 played, such as on Saturday Club, Easy Beat and Housewives Choice. 1432 01:34:13,360 --> 01:34:16,260 These were the big record request programmes of the day. 1433 01:34:17,900 --> 01:34:21,960 and so devoted were the Beatles fans in Liverpool that many of them did just 1434 01:34:21,960 --> 01:34:25,500 that and sent postcards down to the BBC. And the producer of Saturday Club 1435 01:34:25,500 --> 01:34:28,660 suddenly has got a table full of postcards and he sees... 1436 01:34:29,100 --> 01:34:30,780 as he believes it, hype. 1437 01:34:31,020 --> 01:34:34,280 It's like, this is fake. You know, there's a campaign going on here. This 1438 01:34:34,280 --> 01:34:37,920 real. So he phones Kim Bennett and says, Kim, I'm sorry, I'm taking your record 1439 01:34:37,920 --> 01:34:42,620 out of the program. And after all his labors, the record was dropped. 1440 01:34:42,860 --> 01:34:44,800 So he does an extraordinary thing. 1441 01:34:45,120 --> 01:34:51,360 He flies to Cologne in Germany, where Bill Crozier was the German side of a 1442 01:34:51,360 --> 01:34:55,680 weekly radio program called Two -Way Family Favorites. Maybe many of you will 1443 01:34:55,680 --> 01:34:59,520 remember that. Sunday lunchtime, when mom is cooking, King of the Joint for 1444 01:34:59,520 --> 01:35:03,200 Sunday lunch. She's going to have two -way family favorites on. It was a 1445 01:35:03,200 --> 01:35:08,680 program. He persuaded Bill Crozier to have Love Me Do as one of his records in 1446 01:35:08,680 --> 01:35:09,680 that program. 1447 01:35:10,420 --> 01:35:15,380 17 .8 million people heard that. What an audience for a radio show. 1448 01:35:15,660 --> 01:35:19,620 And because of Kim Bennett's efforts and the Beatles, who are still playing it 1449 01:35:19,620 --> 01:35:24,740 every night somewhere, Love Me Do is continuing to climb up the chart. Even 1450 01:35:24,740 --> 01:35:29,600 they're away in Germany, it's still going up. They're now at number 23. We 1451 01:35:29,600 --> 01:35:31,080 them at 49 earlier. 1452 01:35:31,440 --> 01:35:34,860 And this is Kim Bennett and what he did and how hard he worked. 1453 01:35:35,240 --> 01:35:37,760 But he's about to be chopped out of the picture. 1454 01:35:38,549 --> 01:35:42,570 because how the George Martin came to sign the Beatles is about to become 1455 01:35:42,570 --> 01:35:47,310 muddied, and Kim Bennett is a casualty of that, and so are Ardmore and 1456 01:35:47,310 --> 01:35:48,310 Beachwood. 1457 01:35:50,850 --> 01:35:55,870 I'm standing at 20 Manchester Square, which was once the head office of EMI. 1458 01:35:56,510 --> 01:36:01,230 This artist's impression showed what was then a new build, EMI House. 1459 01:36:01,930 --> 01:36:05,690 got knocked down around the turn of the century, and George Martin's office was 1460 01:36:05,690 --> 01:36:09,450 on the fourth floor. So the Beatles came here for a meeting with George Martin 1461 01:36:09,450 --> 01:36:16,030 on November 16th, 1962, which was the first indication we have of the harmony 1462 01:36:16,030 --> 01:36:19,710 their relationship. George Martin hadn't really wanted to sign the Beatles. 1463 01:36:19,930 --> 01:36:21,110 They'd kind of been... 1464 01:36:21,450 --> 01:36:25,770 foisted on him but having met them and enjoyed their characters and having seen 1465 01:36:25,770 --> 01:36:29,890 the promise of love me do going up the charts he decided that actually these 1466 01:36:29,890 --> 01:36:33,950 were guys he could do good work with many things were decided including the 1467 01:36:33,950 --> 01:36:37,550 that they were going to make an lp their first album which eventually became 1468 01:36:37,550 --> 01:36:42,190 please please me and at that point was going to be potentially a live album 1469 01:36:42,190 --> 01:36:47,440 recorded in the cavern so they came here for that And they also came here 1470 01:36:47,440 --> 01:36:53,660 famously in February 1963 for the photograph that became the cover of 1471 01:36:53,660 --> 01:36:57,800 first album, Please Please Me, where they were looking over the balcony of 1472 01:36:57,800 --> 01:36:59,720 stairwell as it then was. 1473 01:37:00,100 --> 01:37:04,800 But everything now, alas, is all gone. But a very important place and a very 1474 01:37:04,800 --> 01:37:08,560 nice part of London as well. And I think the Beatles enjoyed coming here. 1475 01:37:10,990 --> 01:37:15,550 So they come down on November the 26th for their next recording session to 1476 01:37:15,550 --> 01:37:19,630 record the follow -up. Love Me Do is still on the charts, still rising as 1477 01:37:19,630 --> 01:37:22,990 seen, but George Martin says we now need to record the next one. 1478 01:37:23,600 --> 01:37:26,440 And Please Please Me is waiting in the wings to be done. 1479 01:37:26,700 --> 01:37:29,020 They're going to have another crack at that, and they do. 1480 01:37:29,500 --> 01:37:34,780 At the end of the session, the Beatles were paid by the Musicians' Union ยฃ7 1481 01:37:35,100 --> 01:37:37,700 This was standard practice at sessions. 1482 01:37:37,940 --> 01:37:41,640 A little guy would come in and sit at a table and hand them cash, which they 1483 01:37:41,640 --> 01:37:46,340 would have to sign for. Their names written on this sheet of paper by Brian 1484 01:37:46,340 --> 01:37:50,460 Epstein. This is the result, Please Please Me. It's going to come out on the 1485 01:37:50,460 --> 01:37:51,840 11th of January, 1963. 1486 01:37:53,000 --> 01:37:57,640 And George Martin picks up that talkback microphone and famously says to them, 1487 01:37:57,760 --> 01:38:01,320 gentlemen, you've just made your first number one record. 1488 01:38:01,820 --> 01:38:06,140 And he was absolutely right. They had indeed made their first number one 1489 01:38:07,470 --> 01:38:11,730 George Martin was such a believer in the Beatles now that he tried to put this 1490 01:38:11,730 --> 01:38:12,870 record in America. 1491 01:38:13,130 --> 01:38:16,950 And these letters were written to the New York office of EMI. 1492 01:38:17,190 --> 01:38:21,930 We are certain this record will be in the top five in this country shortly 1493 01:38:21,930 --> 01:38:22,930 its release. 1494 01:38:23,170 --> 01:38:27,510 We have great faith both in the artist and the record because George Martin is 1495 01:38:27,510 --> 01:38:31,470 really anxious to establish the Beatles on your side of the Atlantic. 1496 01:38:32,300 --> 01:38:36,020 Well, Love Me Do, the Beatles' first record, Love Me Do, had not come out on 1497 01:38:36,020 --> 01:38:39,680 American record label. Though Love Me Do didn't come out, they were then offered 1498 01:38:39,680 --> 01:38:44,300 Please Please Me, and inevitably they rejected it. So I've mocked up a label 1499 01:38:44,300 --> 01:38:49,200 here to show the record that might have been, but never was, Please Please Me on 1500 01:38:49,200 --> 01:38:50,260 American Capitol. 1501 01:38:51,600 --> 01:38:56,540 And then EMI, through a New York agency, shopped Please Please Me around. 1502 01:38:57,240 --> 01:38:59,180 It went to Lorry Records. 1503 01:39:00,690 --> 01:39:03,750 which was a nice little independent record label in New York. 1504 01:39:04,770 --> 01:39:06,910 And Laurie didn't want to take the Beatles. 1505 01:39:07,270 --> 01:39:12,230 EMI offered the Beatles to Liberty Records, which came very close to 1506 01:39:12,230 --> 01:39:15,510 them, but they had a lot of success at that time and he didn't feel that they 1507 01:39:15,510 --> 01:39:16,950 needed to take on this English group. 1508 01:39:17,270 --> 01:39:20,070 And perhaps most interestingly of all... 1509 01:39:20,560 --> 01:39:25,340 The great record label based in New York, Atlantic, were offered the chance 1510 01:39:25,340 --> 01:39:26,199 sign the Beatles. 1511 01:39:26,200 --> 01:39:30,320 The A &R man there who turned down the Beatles was one of the great record men 1512 01:39:30,320 --> 01:39:35,360 of all time, Jerry Wexler, who was great at spotting talent and producing it in 1513 01:39:35,360 --> 01:39:39,900 the studios as well. And yet he heard Please Please Me and didn't think that 1514 01:39:39,900 --> 01:39:40,900 wanted to sign them. 1515 01:39:41,280 --> 01:39:45,740 At the beginning of 1962, Decca had turned down the Beatles on the basis of 1516 01:39:45,740 --> 01:39:49,480 not very good test that they did at Decca Studios on New Year's Day 1962. 1517 01:39:50,680 --> 01:39:55,380 You can understand to a degree why they didn't realise that the Beatles were 1518 01:39:55,380 --> 01:39:57,860 going to be a significant talent and therefore let them go. 1519 01:39:58,380 --> 01:40:03,500 But these guys, these American A &R men, are turning down Please Please Me. 1520 01:40:05,840 --> 01:40:11,040 So that house over there is 174 Macketts Lane, and it's the house that George 1521 01:40:11,040 --> 01:40:15,160 Harrison was living in when the Beatles became nationally and then 1522 01:40:15,160 --> 01:40:16,280 internationally famous. 1523 01:40:16,760 --> 01:40:21,040 Sue Houghton, who was a very devoted fan of George, wanted to do something for 1524 01:40:21,040 --> 01:40:24,920 him while the Beatles were away and said to Mr and Mrs Harrison, could I please 1525 01:40:24,920 --> 01:40:27,060 wash George's car while he's away in Hamburg? 1526 01:40:27,380 --> 01:40:31,320 So George's mother wrote him a letter saying, Sue has come round. 1527 01:40:31,870 --> 01:40:33,990 would like to wash your car, should she? 1528 01:40:34,230 --> 01:40:40,410 So George wrote this beautiful three -page letter to Sue Houghton, giving the 1529 01:40:40,410 --> 01:40:44,190 precise instructions of how his car should be washed. 1530 01:40:44,590 --> 01:40:49,670 Use plenty of soapy water, he writes. Have a cup of tea while the car is 1531 01:40:49,670 --> 01:40:54,670 off. Ask mother for dusters and apply the polish in a circular motion. 1532 01:40:55,550 --> 01:40:56,930 Don't forget the wheels. 1533 01:40:57,730 --> 01:40:59,970 Get the carpets looking like new. 1534 01:41:01,070 --> 01:41:03,870 Check the car over to see if you've missed anything. 1535 01:41:04,390 --> 01:41:09,250 And then the final instruction, proceed to Fourth Lynn Road with about six 1536 01:41:09,250 --> 01:41:15,370 buckets of dirty, muddy, greasy water and spread it all evenly over a Ford 1537 01:41:15,370 --> 01:41:16,370 Classic. 1538 01:41:17,650 --> 01:41:20,210 So it all ended up on Paul's car. 1539 01:41:21,929 --> 01:41:26,630 Penultimate item, the Christmas issue of Melody Maker, December the 22nd, 1962. 1540 01:41:26,830 --> 01:41:32,690 The first ever newspaper to mention within the pages of a single issue, the 1541 01:41:32,690 --> 01:41:37,690 Beatles, Bob Dylan, and the Rolling Stones. The 60s are coming. The Beatles 1542 01:41:37,690 --> 01:41:41,950 there because they're in the charts. Still Rising, Love Me Do, is now 22. 1543 01:41:41,950 --> 01:41:43,770 been on the charts for two months. 1544 01:41:44,050 --> 01:41:45,670 In fact, two and a half months. 1545 01:41:45,950 --> 01:41:50,450 Quite incredible. It never rose higher than 17, which makes people think it 1546 01:41:50,450 --> 01:41:54,750 wasn't very successful. But it was the longevity that held it in such good 1547 01:41:54,750 --> 01:41:59,510 stead. And when eventually Please Please Me comes out in January, Love Me Do is 1548 01:41:59,510 --> 01:42:02,730 still on the charts and they had two records in the chart at the same time, 1549 01:42:02,770 --> 01:42:06,790 which is again a sign of things to come. So Love Me Do was a success. 1550 01:42:07,720 --> 01:42:13,380 Bob Dylan is there because he's in London to play the part of a hobo in a 1551 01:42:13,380 --> 01:42:15,900 for the BBC called The Madhouse on Castle Street. 1552 01:42:16,100 --> 01:42:18,280 So he's in London at the end of 1962. 1553 01:42:18,860 --> 01:42:24,020 And the Rolling Stones are in an advertisement for a show at the Low 1554 01:42:24,020 --> 01:42:28,280 coffee bar in Richmond. Twist, twist, it says, because everything was still 1555 01:42:28,280 --> 01:42:30,960 twisty. But really, they're an R &B band. 1556 01:42:31,460 --> 01:42:36,760 And they were formed in July 1962, the Rolling Stones. Their formation was 1557 01:42:36,760 --> 01:42:41,500 announced. in jazz news jazz just about tolerated rhythm and blues and R &B 1558 01:42:41,500 --> 01:42:46,960 groups basically got their start in London's jazz clubs Mick Jagger talking 1559 01:42:46,960 --> 01:42:51,700 about the group he says I hope they don't think we're a rock and roll outfit 1560 01:42:51,700 --> 01:42:56,300 seven years later they're the greatest rock and roll band in the world 1561 01:42:57,160 --> 01:43:02,200 Also named in the piece, Keith Richards, Elmo Lewis, that's Brian Jones, Ian 1562 01:43:02,200 --> 01:43:07,100 Stewart, that's Stu, Dick Taylor, who will be in The Pretty Things, Mick 1563 01:43:07,200 --> 01:43:12,740 Mike Avery, who become the drummer in The Kinks. So the 60s are coming. The 1564 01:43:12,740 --> 01:43:13,740 final piece. 1565 01:43:13,940 --> 01:43:19,440 At the end of 1962, Brian Epstein had been the Beatles manager for a year, and 1566 01:43:19,440 --> 01:43:23,040 he placed a whole page advertisement in Murphy Beat newspaper. 1567 01:43:24,080 --> 01:43:29,060 and it was called 1962, The Beatles' Year of Achievement. And it outlined the 1568 01:43:29,060 --> 01:43:32,960 progress that they had made in the course of the year, getting an EMI 1569 01:43:33,480 --> 01:43:37,600 making BBC broadcast, television appearances, Radio Luxembourg 1570 01:43:38,020 --> 01:43:43,780 going to Hamburg, getting into the charts, appearing with all sorts of big 1571 01:43:43,780 --> 01:43:49,020 acts. And appearing in cities and towns all across the country, not just in 1572 01:43:49,020 --> 01:43:49,999 Liverpool anymore. 1573 01:43:50,000 --> 01:43:54,460 And they've got a team of people. Brian has assembled a team of people around 1574 01:43:54,460 --> 01:43:58,200 them. So there's him as their manager now. There's George Martin as their 1575 01:43:58,200 --> 01:43:59,200 producer. 1576 01:43:59,550 --> 01:44:04,450 It says there Tony Calder as publicity, but in fact it's Tony Barrow, whose name 1577 01:44:04,450 --> 01:44:07,690 can't be given because he works for Decca, but he'll soon be with them full 1578 01:44:07,690 --> 01:44:12,210 -time. Neil Aspinall as the road manager. His address can't be printed 1579 01:44:12,210 --> 01:44:15,850 he lives with Pete Bess and his family, so we leave that bit out. 1580 01:44:16,090 --> 01:44:17,790 Bobby Brown, the fan club secretary. 1581 01:44:19,000 --> 01:44:23,440 On board just too late for this when this was drafted, now the music 1582 01:44:23,560 --> 01:44:28,040 Dick James. So all these people are a team now who are going to be pushing the 1583 01:44:28,040 --> 01:44:32,220 beat. It's their talent, it's their ability, it's their originality, but 1584 01:44:32,220 --> 01:44:33,620 got this team behind them. 1585 01:44:34,350 --> 01:44:39,850 Remember also it's only still seven, nearly eight months since Stuart 1586 01:44:39,850 --> 01:44:44,730 died. And these pictures of the Beatles taken in November 62 by Astrid and note 1587 01:44:44,730 --> 01:44:49,230 that John is sitting in Stuart's chair and that won't be a coincidence. 1588 01:44:49,590 --> 01:44:53,210 We look at that from history as well. He was a Beatle and then he died and then 1589 01:44:53,210 --> 01:44:57,550 they had hits. For them, he was one of them. He was in their band and they've 1590 01:44:57,550 --> 01:44:58,850 lost him at the age of 21. 1591 01:44:59,710 --> 01:45:05,590 So it's worth remembering that Stuart had died this year as well. In reality, 1592 01:45:05,590 --> 01:45:09,730 that advertisement, there was a little box that prefixed what might happen in 1593 01:45:09,730 --> 01:45:14,010 1963. Please, please miss coming out. And they've got tours, including 1594 01:45:14,010 --> 01:45:18,830 nationwide tours with Helen Shapiro, Tommy Rowe, and Chris Montez. And then 1595 01:45:18,830 --> 01:45:22,150 ends at the bottom with, and who knows? 1596 01:45:23,160 --> 01:45:26,140 They don't know what the future holds because nobody ever does. 1597 01:45:26,400 --> 01:45:30,820 But there is about to become the greatest cultural explosion that I 1598 01:45:30,820 --> 01:45:33,380 we've ever had. And we're still feeling it to this day. 1599 01:45:33,660 --> 01:45:36,940 And who knows? Thank you very much for listening to all of this. 1600 01:45:41,780 --> 01:45:42,780 Thank you. 1601 01:45:43,900 --> 01:45:44,900 Thank you very much. 1602 01:45:46,100 --> 01:45:47,100 Thank you. 1603 01:45:47,580 --> 01:45:48,580 Thank you. 1604 01:45:58,370 --> 01:46:00,910 He really pulled together a wonderful show. 1605 01:46:01,150 --> 01:46:05,050 That kind of gave you more than you thought you needed to know. I love the 1606 01:46:05,050 --> 01:46:06,430 of the bud before the bloom. 1607 01:46:06,710 --> 01:46:08,670 This is what 1962 is for the Beatles. 1608 01:46:09,070 --> 01:46:14,010 I like the way that the Beatles kind of emerge from that cocoon and rock it off. 1609 01:46:26,879 --> 01:46:28,340 Mother's playing bingo. 1610 01:46:29,000 --> 01:46:32,400 Granddad's swearing at the telly, trying to make the bingo. 1611 01:46:32,640 --> 01:46:34,780 No one seems to notice me. 1612 01:46:35,240 --> 01:46:36,360 Isn't it a sin? 1613 01:46:36,600 --> 01:46:39,440 What a crazy world we're living in. 1614 01:46:40,500 --> 01:46:44,980 Now, the old man never talks to me, and when he does, it moans. 1615 01:46:45,200 --> 01:46:47,180 Watch your face, it looks a disgrace. 1616 01:46:47,660 --> 01:46:48,940 Oh, what an happy home. 1617 01:46:49,200 --> 01:46:50,680 He says I'm irresponsible, 1618 01:46:51,480 --> 01:46:53,040 not like when he was young. 1619 01:46:53,600 --> 01:46:57,360 Then he puts on his cap and coat to watch the grounds run. 1620 01:46:57,560 --> 01:46:59,780 Oh, Dad's gone down a dog track. 1621 01:47:00,280 --> 01:47:01,800 Mother's playing bingo. 1622 01:47:02,440 --> 01:47:05,980 Granny's boozing in the parlour. You'll see the jingo. 1623 01:47:06,260 --> 01:47:08,400 No one thinks they'll notice me. 1624 01:47:08,820 --> 01:47:09,940 Isn't it a sin? 1625 01:47:10,140 --> 01:47:13,180 What crazy world we're living in. 1626 01:47:21,610 --> 01:47:27,130 Mother says I look beyond me trousers are too tight. She says I ought to get a 1627 01:47:27,130 --> 01:47:29,050 job and not stay out all night. 1628 01:47:29,290 --> 01:47:31,250 She doesn't like me haircut. 1629 01:47:31,510 --> 01:47:36,470 She says me friends are lousy. And then she says it's getting late. Can't miss 1630 01:47:36,470 --> 01:47:39,870 me, lousy, lousy. Oh, Dad's gone down the dog trail. 1631 01:47:40,470 --> 01:47:41,910 Mother's playing bingo. 1632 01:47:42,510 --> 01:47:44,450 Sister's mooching on the sofa. 1633 01:47:44,690 --> 01:47:46,150 You ought to hear the spring go. 1634 01:47:46,410 --> 01:47:48,410 No one thinks they'll notice me. 1635 01:47:48,890 --> 01:47:49,970 Isn't it a sin? 1636 01:47:50,700 --> 01:47:52,120 What a crazy world we're in. 157887

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