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Love is the most wonderful thing there is.

And you shouldn't be afraid to be yourself to find it.

My feeling is that she betrayed me.

There'll certainly be discussions.

I'm a bit nervous. I haven't seen him since I left him.

It's been a very turbulent year.

I don't think everyone expected that Ibbe and I would end up here.

A lot is going to be brought up today.

LOVE IS BLIND: SWEDEN THE REUNION

A warm welcome to the Reunion for Love is Blind: Sweden.

Six couples chose to get engaged inside the pods

based solely on who they are on the inside,

with the goal of getting married just a few weeks later.

Tonight we've gathered our amazing participants again,

nine months later, to talk about everything that happened during the season

and what has happened since the cameras switched off.

And for the first time in the history of the Reunion, we have a live audience.

We have invited friends, family members

and also some familiar faces from the season.

- Fabian, how are you doing? - I'm doing well. It's good to be here.

- Are you excited for tonight? - Yes, we'll see.

- Ellen, how does it feel? - It's good. Things have been chaotic.

It's good to finally sort things out a bit today.

It feels like we have a lot to talk about.

The viewers and I have many questions that we want answered.

Welcome, Angelica and Ronja!

Aron and Lars-Erik!

Camilla and Johanna!

Ludwig and Daniel!

Hey!

There were many breakups this season,

but one couple chose to say "I do" to each other at the altar.

Are they still married? Will we have proof that love is indeed blind?

Welcome, Aniela and Ibrahim!

Stop it!

Are you kidding me?

You bastard!

- Congratulations. - Thank you very much.

- Congratulations. - Thank you!

Well, here you are, and there's three of you.

- Yes. - Right.

- So I guess you're still married? - No.

- Yes. - We are still married.

- How nice, congratulations! - Thank you so much.

- How are you doing? - Great, it's wonderful.

And Aniela, how are you?

I'm a little swollen and stuff, but it's okay.

- When's the due date? - The end of May.

- So it happened quickly. - Yes, it happened quite quickly.

No, she wasn't planned, but she is very welcome.

Isn't that cool? This is Love is Blind: Sweden's sixth baby

in three seasons!

What a record we have.

What do you all think? Did you have any idea about this?

I knew it. I was 100% sure.

You've asked several times, "Shouldn't we hang out, you and Aniela?"

And I kept saying, "Aniela is quite busy right now."

I felt like something fishy was going on. But I'm so happy for you.

- It's magical. - Thank you very much.

Aniela and Ibbe, we will of course talk more with you in a little while.

But now we're all gathered together. It's so nice to see you.

The viewers and I obviously have many questions that we want answered tonight.

But this is also an opportunity for you to ask each other questions

and clarify things that you feel aren't completely resolved.

So take this opportunity to do it.

Is there anything in particular you're nervous to talk about tonight?

The thing that feels most difficult to talk about today is definitely our…

breakup.

Aron, is it difficult to be here?

Yes, quite a bit.

My question is for Johanna. She doesn't live next door.

She's traveled quite a lot, and I'm curious about how she's been

and what her life is like today.

We have a lot to talk about. Many people are curious about how you guys are doing.

You all fell in love and felt chemistry inside the pods,

even though you had a wall between you.

Then, once you got engaged, you finally got to see each other for the first time.

How important is it to quickly feel physical attraction?

I went into it with the mindset that it wouldn't matter.

I wanted to give the experiment a fair chance, no matter what,

or who was on the other side.

So I fell in love with the person,

and then I would probably go through with it, no matter what.

We didn't talk about appearance or anything.

But yes, I think everyone could see that I was very happy

to meet Johanna when the doors opened.

How important is it, Johanna, to feel a physical attraction quickly?

Well, I think it's difficult to connect the voice

that you've been listening to with the person.

So you just have to give it a little time to fall into place.

When you went on your romantic trip to Corfu

to explore this physical attraction,

a special fruit became a hot topic of conversation.

No!

Maybe we should take a look at what it looked like.

- Did you guys take it easy yesterday? - Yeah.

Some of them probably, you know, made love right away, and some take their time.

- Did you eat pineapple that night? - No.

- Neither did we. - Nor at breakfast?

- No. - Did you this morning?

No.

We have a few code words for things.

- What is the code word? - I'm not telling you.

It's just between us, okay?

Did you eat pineapple this morning?

No!

I can tell you I did.

Do you know what production asked me? "What's with you guys eating pineapple?"

No, we just like pineapple.

Haven't you had a pineapple party?

- Some people are eating pineapple. - Yes. They eat a lot of pineapple.

With pleasure. There's even a pineapple in their eyes.

Look at them.

Ronja, if you're throwing a pineapple party, I'm not sure I'll be able to come.

What, you don't want to come?

But was this just something between the girls, or did you guys know about this?

I haven't had pineapple in three years, so I don't know.

- Not a big pineapple eater? - No.

You girls were talking about this quite openly back then.

But were you able to bring up these "pineapple issues" in your relationships?

Ronja?

As far as I remember, the two of us weren't bad at talking about it.

We didn't really have any "pineapple parties" ourselves.

I can maybe pass the pineapple question to someone over here.

- Yes, to the one on the end. - I'll pass it right back,

unfortunately.

But, Ludde, when you came to Corfu,

what were your expectations for your relationship with Camilla?

To just keep building on what we had…

built up together in the pods, because it was really nice,

and take it with us and get to know each other even better,

which would hopefully lead to something good.

Camilla, what were your expectations?

Well, I completely agree. We had a great time in the pods.

We could talk about the deep things, but we also had lots of fun.

But my expectation was to get

the time to connect

this new person with the person I had gotten to know.

And that's what I think was so strange, because we had

an incredible first evening, or first day.

We had a lot of fun, it felt great.

We went into the beach party like, "We're the strongest here, this is awesome."

But when we got home, it was just a few hours until I got dumped.

So I never felt like I had enough time to give myself a chance

to give him what he needed and get the time I needed.

It was quite clear to the viewers that you had slightly different expectations

about how quickly the relationship would develop.

But it still came as a shock when you arrived at the cocktail party

and announced that Ludde had decided to end the relationship.

This is an ending that the viewers haven't had the chance to see.

So what actually happened? We're going to take a look at it now.

Good morning. Hello.

Hey, hey.

How are you doing?

Would you like to come and sit down?

The way I feel about the validation regarding the physical aspect…

It is extremely important to me.

I understand. From my perspective…

We talked about it yesterday.

I feel like I need some time to process what you've said and understand…

what that means.

I don't think it's that I can't be that way,

but I'm just not quite there yet.

I need time.

I understand that it works that way, that you need time.

But that doesn't work for me.

I can't wait.

It's such a big and important thing for me.

That's what I want in a relationship.

I need that.

It feels like we're not good for each other.

Because we can't give each other what we want.

When I feel like I'm not getting what I need from you,

I think it will be difficult for us to make it work.

So we're, like, done.

It sounds harsh, but yes, that's how I feel.

I don't want to give up yet, but your well-being comes first.

I'm just sorry that I can't give you what you need.

I understand.

It just triggers so much in me that I…

I never feel like I'm good enough, and…

it's like I'm never…

chosen.

I'm never worth fighting for, basically.

And it's become so obvious here.

I thought it would be different now, but it wasn't.

How does that feel, Camilla?

It's really hard to watch.

I felt so bad.

It's so strange to feel all of that again.

This was the morning after the group beach party.

You had been in each other's physical presence for two days.

- Not even two full days. - Barely two days.

That's a very short time, Ludde.

Yes, one might think so. And…

But that's just how it is. Everyone is different.

I just know how strongly I felt about that decision.

It wasn't something that I…

Even though it was a short period of time, I didn't rush into anything.

I had this feeling and I thought about it several times.

I had to listen to my gut feeling and how I was feeling.

Although I understand that it comes as a shock

and I understand that people think I didn't give it enough time.

What feeling did you get? Can you describe it?

I didn't feel… I felt more of a friendship

and not this kind of love between us.

And I needed some kind of proof that she liked me.

Did you understand, Camilla, what Ludde actually needed?

Not at first, because he was only talking about physical closeness.

It probably wasn't until later that he used the word "validation,"

which is something else.

But what I don't understand is that I think I gave it in many ways.

As I said, we had a great first day.

I had received a very nice letter from my best friends,

which was like a letter to my first boyfriend.

I never would have given it if I hadn't felt… It meant a lot to me.

I wouldn't have given it if I didn't feel like it was special.

I cried when we read it.

There's a lot that I feel doesn't make sense.

No, and it was very nice,

and I'm not saying it isn't some form of validation.

It was validation.

But there was still something missing. Can you pinpoint what it was you needed?

No, I can't do much more than what I've described.

I felt then and there that we were more like friends

than a couple.

It sounds like you're the one who didn't have feelings

when you say we were more like friends. Or am I misunderstanding you?

Yes, I think you are.

What?

Then everyone is misunderstanding you. I misunderstand you too.

I needed to feel more like Camilla liked me.

That she showed it in some way, or expressed it with words.

I didn't feel like I was getting anything, just that I was giving.

But, Ludde, you came to Greece,

and you had just chosen Camilla over another girl, who is here tonight,

so it was already been pretty unclear who you actually wanted to be with.

And then when you get there,

don't you think it might be time for you to validate Camilla?

I mean…

- What do you mean? - I don't know if I can be any clearer.

You showed that you'd been very unsure, until you chose Camilla.

Don't you think it was time for you to validate her there?

But I think I did. I'm saying it.

- But you dumped her after one day. - I think I gave more than I got in return.

Well, I must say that's very exciting. Absolutely.

I'm not quite following.

Because you two had this conversation, Camilla, after the beach party.

Then you talk to each other, and Ludde says that it's important to him

to have physical validation. You say that you need more time.

It's like you have some kind of understanding.

And then in the morning, he chooses to end it.

What happens in between? I'm not following what's going on.

No, me neither.

It wasn't something I thought would end.

I understood it was something we'd need to talk about again.

But I didn't think it would end.

How much physical intimacy did you have?

We ate pineapple.

You ate pineapple?

Then it still feels like you had progressed much further

than many of the other couples.

I just don't understand, Ludde.

I've already tried to explain it as best as I can.

I don't have much more to say.

Don't you feel like you owe her an apology for wasting her time?

That's what she was looking for.

I think it's a shame, of course, that things turned out the way they did.

I also got involved in this and hoped for the best.

I don't know what to say. I'm losing all respect for you.

Now that I see it on camera, I can't respect that kind of behavior.

You can't even apologize to her for wasting her time.

- I can absolutely do that. - But do you want to do it?

- It's not about whether you can do it. - I didn't do it because it's fun.

I just said exactly what I felt, right then and there.

- Do you think you gave it a fair chance? - I think I gave it a fair chance.

- Two days, is that a fair chance? - I think so.

Okay, good. We have different values, buddy.

I just want to add that…

I'm not blaming you. I'm not putting anything on you.

If that's how it seems, I want you to know that it's not that.

I really mean it.

- You are super nice, like, really nice. - Thank you.

You were dating two girls inside the pods.

It felt like it was a pretty close race between them.

- Hanna is here tonight. Welcome. - Thank you.

How was it for you the first time you met at the engagement party?

When he chose Camilla, it was a relief in a way.

Because I didn't like being in a situation where someone's dating multiple people.

It became different from when I thought it was just us who had something special.

Then I heard that they'd broken up,

and I didn't really understand the reason either.

So it was quite strange to come to the engagement party and just say,

"Hello everyone, I don't really know what's going on."

But how did it feel to meet?

I felt that there was still chemistry between you.

Yes, it was fun to meet.

It's still someone you've developed a certain feeling for.

So it was clear that it was fun.

Did you have any more contact?

Hanna and I? No.

Were you disappointed? Did you wish he'd reached out?

I feel like it's Ludde's feelings. He can do whatever he feels like.

I don't want someone who doesn't want me. It was completely fine.

Was there never a possibility that you and Hanna could give it a try?

No, that's not how I felt back then, at least. No.

Now I'm very curious about what life is like today.

- Ludde, are you single? - The answer is yes.

- Have you started dating? - No.

I feel like I still need some time to myself.

I don't feel quite ready for it yet.

- Hanna, how are you? Are you single? - I'm also single.

How often do you go on dates?

I've been on a few dates, and I think it's gone well.

Camilla, are you single?

I am single.

How is your dating life going?

I went on a few dates last summer, then I took a break.

But now my DMs are open. Welcome!

I hope you all find love soon, even if you don't find it with each other.

Thank you, Ludde, Camilla and Hanna.

For one of the couples here, the love story began with a lot of laughter.

Ronja, you fell head over heels for the computer geek Lars-Erik,

who loved Coca-Cola and cheese puffs.

You had strong feelings for each other. You decided to get engaged.

And that's when you saw each other for the first time.

Then you, Ronja, received a note from Lars-Erik,

your fiancé, saying that he loved you.

Yes.

What went through your mind then?

I didn't handle it in the best way.

I panicked more.

Maybe I should have calmed down a bit and gotten to know things in real life.

Did you notice this, Lars-Erik?

I noticed that something was wrong. But it might not seem like I did.

I am the love bomber.

But it showed in Corfu, so I adjusted my behavior a bit

when we had a discussion about her needing more space, and I actually stepped back.

I think that's what went wrong between us.

That you had to distance yourself from who you are

and what you need in a relationship, and I also distanced myself,

so we didn't really get the chance to talk more about things.

God, now I'm just getting sad.

What's been hard for you?

It feels like I…

It was so difficult to communicate with each other.

It feels like…

For example, I said that I wanted to drop out already in Greece,

which I also want to apologize for, because that's not a nice thing to say.

But I just wanted to be as honest as possible about how I was feeling

so as not to hurt anyone, and that was also wrong, I realize in hindsight.

It seems like I'm just angry, while as a person…

I'm very warm and happy, and I just feel like…

I wasn't doing well. That's what…

I'm not saying that Lars-Erik is a bad person,

but we brought out the bad sides in each other, and it's not fun to see.

In retrospect, do you wish you had acted differently or done something else?

Yes, absolutely. I do.

I… I was bad

at fully expressing what I felt.

I was really bad at it.

I see that in hindsight and that makes me sad.

Why couldn't I just have said that this doesn't feel right?

- But were you ever in love with Lars-Erik? - Yes, I was in love with Lars-Erik.

Have you told Lars-Erik this, in the past year, what you're telling us now?

No, we haven't talked about anything since… Yeah.

- He might have needed to hear that. - Yeah.

Is that how you feel?

I think that's very nicely said. I appreciate that we can talk so maturely.

I wish we could have done it sooner.

Do you wish you'd done something differently?

No, I felt like I gave it my all, and I kept asking the guys

what I could do differently in those situations.

I tried to get their input.

I tried to communicate with her.

And when we finally tried, we couldn't communicate.

There was another thing that you had many discussions about: Lars-Erik's faith.

If you and Ronja had continued, do you think your faith would've been a problem?

- I think so. - Why?

I don't think I could have accepted her.

I mean, the way she wants to live her life.

I don't think so, anyway.

Sorry, I'm just really curious. What do you mean?

I don't think our morals and such would have aligned in the long run.

How important was faith to you?

Faith was definitely not the most important thing at that moment.

Now I hear that it might have been.

It was that we didn't bring out the joy in each other anymore.

I wasn't happy. You weren't happy.

We are two happy, warm people towards our friends and family.

That was the deciding factor.

But you, Lars-Erik, were also dating another girl in the pods. Dannette.

You connected to each other through your faith, among other things.

And Dannette is here tonight. Hi, Dannette.

You two met for the first time at the engagement party,

- but your connection didn't end there. - No.

Shortly after the engagement party, we met in Stockholm and talked.

Can you say that you were dating?

- Yes, it turned into…. - You could say that.

Yeah.

- I wonder, did you know about this, Ronja? - Yes, I did.

If I remember correctly, you and I talked about it.

You wanted to be honest with me and said, "Lars-Erik and I kissed."

Was I shocked right then and there that it happened so quickly? Of course I was.

We had just left the experiment.

But at the same time, there was nothing wrong.

I liked that you guys got to experience that connection and see what it could be.

Then we tried to maintain contact, but I'm not very good at it.

And then I went on a little trip abroad, where I was going to help Aron and…

It was my fault.

No, I wouldn't…

I'd whipped him.

No, I just think that the commitment wasn't there,

if I can say that.

I think it turned out the way it was meant to.

Now I'm very curious about what your lives are like today.

I'll start with you, Lars-Erik. Are you single?

No, I'm not. She is…

- Is she here? - No.

It's not someone here.

But it's the best woman I've met in a very long time.

And I'm extremely happy to be with her.

Do you feel like you've found unconditional love?

Only two people can give that.

That's your mother, and it's Jesus.

- You are happy. - I am happy.

Does she share your faith?

Then I ask you, Ronja. Are you still single?

I can say this: I am very happy, at least.

Are you not clapping?

There's something in her eyes, you can see it.

Yeah.

- You don't want to share any details? - No, maybe not yet.

- Dannette, are you single? - No, I'm seeing someone too.

You're seeing someone too?

Yeah, I'm like…

I'm glad that all three of you seem to have found love and seem very happy.

- Congratulations. - Thank you very much.

And thank you, Lars-Erik, Ronja and Dannette.

Ibbe and Aniela, we are so happy for your love

and the baby on the way and everything. It's amazing.

Now we'll also get to see what your first year as newlyweds has been like.

And then…

Now maybe we can get an answer to the question: Has Ibbe moved to Stockholm?

Eklund and Gergi live here. Let's see if anyone is home.

- Hi! Welcome home. - Hello, darling!

- Well, you live here. - I live here.

Yes, this is what it looks like here at home.

It looks pretty much the same as when I lived here.

Except that you've moved in.

- It's a bit cramped. - It's a bit cramped here.

And then you'll come with…

With something like this? A bun in the oven.

How are we going to fit everything in?

- We need to buy something bigger. - I think so too.

Up here we have some albums from the wedding and bachelorette party

that some of my friends put together.

It's been a year since the experiment. I think it's been a great year.

How cute we are, darling.

We got married. We had an amazing party afterwards with close friends and family.

Right after that, we quickly headed to a festival. It was a lot of fun.

Then we celebrated Midsummer with my family.

We had a wonderful summer together,

spending a lot of time outdoors, swimming a lot.

But after the summer, we weren't living together yet.

Ibbe went to Jönköping and worked there, and I was in Stockholm and was working.

It was a bit difficult being apart. It became a little stressful.

How can you have so many piles? I don't understand.

It was scary to be separated back then, because it probably caused some anxiety

in both of us about how things would turn out, and what we'd done and so on.

Aren't you going to buy your own toothbrush?

No, I just take yours.

You have this idea that when you get married, everything should be perfect.

And that's not really the case, maybe, when you get married after two months.

But there was never any question about that.

We've always wanted to be together, and we've had to work through it.

And now we've managed to create something that's really wonderful.

And now I really feel like I know this man inside and out.

Here's our little girl.

She looks like you. A little Aniela nose.

Yes, you have a very big nose. Is it your nose?

We're in week 17 and are going to do a little home ultrasound.

Do you think she's getting big, sweetheart?

Can you find her?

The baby is doing well. The heart too.

- Do you see the heart? - Yes, I do.

If someone had told you before the experiment that next year

you would get engaged, married and have a pregnant wife…

- I would have said, "Get out." - I probably would have said that too.

Damn, that's nice!

So damn nice!

I think we all feel calm and safe now that we know you live in Stockholm.

How does it feel? Because you were uncertain.

It feels amazing to have moved. And this is my life now.

We fight most about who should do the last dog walk.

That is often a discussion, actually.

"Can you do the last one?" "No, you do it."

- Guess who's doing the last one now. - You.

But I have a veto. Or a good excuse.

For two more months, roughly.

Then 18 more years.

- One year… - I mean…

One more year after that.

So what does the future look like now? You're going to move.

- I need to sell my apartment. - It's a project.

Then we have this project.

- A rather large project. - It's a big project.

It's still in progress, so to speak.

So I think the main focus will be on her.

And then we just want to continue being married and happy.

I think what's beautiful to see, and we all failed at it, is your communication.

Nice.

No, but your communication, how you always talk in terms of "we".

It always feels like it's you against the problem, not you against him.

You always tried to solve it so well.

You worked together so well on it. It's so nice to see.

Thank you.

It's absolutely fantastic. You are living proof that love is blind.

Thank you very much. Ibbe and Aniela.

There's been a lot of talk about love languages this season.

Shall we go through them once and for all? Can someone list them?

Gifts, words of affirmation, physical touch…

- Quality time. - And acts of service.

- Now we've got them all covered, right? - You're welcome.

It's not always easy to express what you need and want in a relationship.

But this whole thing about love languages,

that's something Johanna and Daniel talked about already in the pods.

I actually wanted to talk a little bit about love languages.

- Love languages? - I want to know what it means to you.

Can you start, so I understand what you mean?

Are you familiar with the five love languages?

There's acts of service, gifts, and then there's words of affirmation.

Can we talk about it in Swedish?

Love languages are…

Yes, exactly. What are love languages?

- If I bring you coffee in bed…. - Yes, that's my thing.

Then that's an affirmation.

- No. - Is it a gift?

It's services.

That you go and fill up my car when it needs gas.

You bring me coffee in bed. You get it?

I really understand. I'm listening.

I'm pretty straightforward about what I want, because I know what I want.

In my relationship with my partner, it is important that we can talk about feelings,

that we can communicate.

If you were to say, "I don't know what you want,"

then I would say, "I've told you a few times, so you don't care."

That's how I would feel.

- Hey! - Hey!

- Are you doing well? - Yes!

I'm constantly physically reassuring her. I hold her as soon as I get the chance.

But have you asked what her love language is?

- There are five. - Yes, exactly.

- What is hers? - I haven't asked that, but…

I already knew from the beginning.

I will be a little more physical than she is.

Just help me. I need help.

I just want to hug this little cutie all the time.

I want to smell her hair, kiss her.

But she feels that we're not there emotionally.

I think the main thing between you is that you have different love languages.

Love languages were a relatively new concept.

When Ibbe said that, I was like, "What do you mean?

We give kisses and hugs." He said, "That's physical.

Then there are the mental love languages." "What?"

- Exactly. - It's a bit like that.

- Think about it. - Good. Thank you.

I really need advice and tips.

I'm very open and I say exactly what I need.

That's what communication is. You talk, you listen, you see me, you hear me.

Absolutely, that's good.

Johanna is a very emotional person. She wears her emotions on her sleeve.

I still haven't gotten my coffee in bed.

It's so incredibly difficult. I've had it easy for most of my life.

And now that I'm faced with this challenge, I just feel like, "Help me."

That's not something you can just order.

I mean, it's not a Big Mac meal.

I press the button, and a cola comes, and then it brings a hamburger and fries.

Honestly, it's really difficult for me.

Sorry for laughing. That was so…

- It's the easiest thing in the world. - That's the craziest comparison.

If she says you missed something, you're missing the fries.

Great. Next time I'll make sure you get them.

She'll get them.

Daniel, what was Johanna's love language, actually?

I think "services" sounds a bit off. But coffee in bed.

I'm starting to understand now that I've seen the show.

Was the coffee maker broken?

Yes, or maybe the barista was broken.

No, but I think the penny dropped just a little too late.

Johanna, you were quite clear about what you needed and wanted in a relationship.

Yes.

Did you feel like Daniel was trying to give you that?

I felt like he was trying to convey that he wanted to try.

But we just couldn't connect.

It was like this: I want to, I want to try.

And I appreciate that, but then I also want to see it happen.

Was there ever coffee in bed?

Actually, we had coffee in the apartment.

But then I got an espresso.

And I'd said that I wanted a café latte in bed.

So I sent it back to the kitchen.

And it wasn't very well received.

No more coffee was served after that.

- Daniel, was this new territory for you? - Completely new.

And I'm almost the oldest in the group here.

But I didn't solve the problem.

Are you talking about this with your friends?

When it comes to family and such, we are very open and emotional.

But you do notice that you have quite a few superficial friendships.

It's sad to feel that.

I get along really well with my friends. I don't want to change that.

But I also realize that I've learned a lot

thanks to this experiment and Johanna's encouragement.

I guess I have it in me, but I just haven't brought it out.

I haven't really needed to do it.

I got really stressed and thought, "Damn, am I an unemotional person?

Don't I have any feelings? Can't I follow instructions that are so easy?"

"I want coffee in bed. I want you to listen to me."

"Come on, Mr. Fjäll. Listen to those words. She's trying here."

Daniel, you get the feeling that you're an entertainer,

and if it gets too deep, too sensitive, too difficult,

you start hiding behind jokes and talking about all sorts of other things.

It comes across as very nonchalant to people who talk to you.

I understand that. Absolutely.

I felt like all I was doing was talking about feelings.

The fun aspect disappeared.

We never made any progress. It just went in circles.

A relationship shouldn't be about constantly arguing.

The way we handled it was also very different.

Because I wanted to work on it and he kind of drifted away,

so I felt very alone in the experiment.

It came to a point where this escalated into a big argument,

when you lost complete trust in Daniel.

I'm of course talking about the recording. Johanna, tell us about it.

God, this is so hard.

Take a deep breath, you've got this. Just tell your truth.

So we had a discussion about the usual things.

I don't feel heard, I don't feel seen, I don't feel understood.

And it went in circles, over and over again.

We'd had a few drinks, so it got pretty intense.

And then I said that this should be recorded

so that you could hear how it goes in circles.

But…

he took it as me saying that I was going to record him,

and started recording me under the table with his phone.

I was upset because I felt betrayed

that my partner is recording me when we're having a discussion.

I sometimes have trouble expressing myself,

but when I said it, I meant the film crew.

I wish this was being recorded right now

so you could hear yourself go around in circles.

I didn't mean that I would record him, because then I would have said,

"Can we record this right now so that you can listen to yourself?"

And then I would have put my phone on the table.

I wouldn't have hidden it under the table and secretly recorded anyone.

I understood that Johanna wanted us to record this for educational purposes,

to learn how to argue. It wasn't a huge argument.

It was more that we should just… She said, "We should record this."

Then I recorded it and said, "I've recorded it, let's listen."

And then it was just like, we don't even need to listen anymore,

we can delete this.

- Why was it under the table? - You said Johanna recorded it.

If you thought she recorded it, why record it too? It won't be any different.

I just wanted to listen to it for educational purposes.

Can't you just admit that you're recording her?

Yes, that's what I'm saying.

For educational purposes? Are you taking a class?

But that's how it was. I thought… I misunderstood her.

There's no logic in what you're saying.

Daniel, you're digging your own grave. Just apologize.

I regret misunderstanding it. Absolutely, I can take responsibility for that.

Daniel, you told me later that Johanna recorded you.

Behind the cameras, you told me that Johanna recorded you.

You were annoyed. But that's not true.

I misunderstood that she did it.

- But you're not saying that…. - I'm having trouble.

How can someone misunderstand? You say, "Now I'm recording you."

It's not that you misunderstood. I don't understand.

As I said, I deleted the clip immediately and I said that we had recorded it.

I misunderstood her and I apologize for that.

And the clip is gone. There was nothing to listen to.

A lot has been going on here. How did it feel for you, Johanna,

at the engagement when Ronja and Angelica suddenly decided to side with Daniel?

It was difficult, but I also knew that they didn't have the whole story.

They had his version, and I had mine.

That's all.

It was tough at the time, but it's okay.

It was so difficult when you were in the middle of it

to understand what was really happening and what wasn't.

You're both communicating, just not with each other.

Or… in retrospect, it's probably more in your favor.

You don't listen to what Johanna says.

It's not surprising that it felt that way. I had exactly the same experience.

In retrospect, there were many instances where Daniel said

the complete opposite of what Johanna said.

Now it turns out, Daniel, you have lied to us.

Repeatedly.

I think that is unacceptable behavior.

Yes, as I said, it was a misunderstanding. I apologize.

- It's not a misunderstanding, it's lies. - It's two very different things.

I thought she had recorded it, but it doesn't matter. I was wrong.

It sounds like you don't want to apologize.

I apologize for misunderstanding, and I apologize for recording it. Period.

I really do, of course I do. And I did then too. I deleted that video.

We listened to it a bit, then deleted it. I said that I was recording.

Johanna, you really deserve a huge amount of praise

for what you can handle and for your patience, and also…

You really, really, really tried.

No one can ever take that away from you. Really.

Thank you.

- Johanna, you still live in Australia. - Yes, I do.

How are things? Have you made any progress in your dating life?

Well, it's at a standstill.

It can wait.

- Do you feel ready to meet someone? - Yes, I have been for a long time.

- That hasn't changed. - You're very clear about it.

- You just have to listen. - Exactly.

Daniel, you had a different favorite early on inside the pods. Ellen.

- It was Ellen. - Ellen is here tonight.

Yes.

Did you have any contact after the party?

- We haven't had any contact. - No.

Not that I remember, but maybe I wasn't paying attention.

But, Daniel, are you single today?

I'm not single today. I've been seeing a girl for almost six months,

and I'm completely sure that it's thanks to this program.

She thinks I talk about my feelings too much.

- Wow! - Yes.

- Then I wish you good luck. - Thank you.

- And I hope it goes well. - Yes, I do too.

- Don't forget to listen and ask questions. - I won't, I promise.

Thank you very much, Daniel and Johanna.

Thank you.

Ellen, I think we should stay with you for a while.

Because you also met another guy inside the pods.

You met Fabian, and Fabian is also here tonight. Welcome, Fabian.

Thank you.

Fabian, when you entered this experiment, what were your expectations?

To meet my life partner, get married, have children.

Just like Ibbe.

We know that this experiment works.

There's proof that you can meet someone and be happy for the rest of your life.

What was it about Ellen that you fell for?

I felt very safe.

I think we had a wonderful time in the pods.

She gave me the space to be myself,

to show that vulnerable side that I always try to hide.

It was very emotional.

I talked a lot about my background

and the future, my dreams.

So I felt very comfortable being myself in every way, with my flaws and my strengths.

So I had a lot of hope.

You got engaged, and then you saw each other for the first time.

You, and we who saw it, will never forget that first meeting,

because it was very painful.

Ellen, tell me, what did you feel at that moment?

It was terribly difficult.

The worst possible time for a gut feeling to kick in.

I think you can see from my whole body that I really wanted to say yes.

And I think that if this had been a few years ago,

I would have gone against my gut,

but I couldn't.

You have to be in love.

And I couldn't force it within the short time we had.

Horrible to watch back, but…

in a way, I'm still proud that I…

found the strength to do that in that moment

and not drag it out, not deceive anyone, but to be honest about how it felt.

It's the only thing you can do, and it's the only thing you owe other people.

You are never obligated to marry or be in a relationship with someone.

But you are obligated to be honest.

That's what I was trying to be there and then.

I don't think many people understood the panic you were feeling either.

We're seeing evidence of that now.

But back then, we were probably a little like,

"Come on, we were all panicking. What happened?"

Right.

But did you understand at that moment what felt wrong?

No, I didn't understand anything. It was just blank, you know.

I just understood that this isn't how it's supposed to feel when someone proposes.

I was very happy the day before.

But absolutely, as I said during the reveal,

you have to choose what's right for you.

Of course it hurt.

I think everyone could see that.

But the important thing is that she chooses what's right.

Of course you can't go along with someone if you don't feel that way.

But you still felt that it wasn't an option for you

to move on and date Fabian even if you weren't going to get married?

No, because it became too pressured and stressful.

It became too much, it became too big.

And it didn't feel right.

I really wanted it to work, but it didn't.

Then it wouldn't have been fair to Fabian, and it wouldn't have been fair to me.

A wonderfully fantastic man, but not my man.

Fabian, do you feel like you have anything else you want to say or ask?

No, I think it was a great experience in the pods, so I'm grateful for that.

Then it didn't go as I expected, and that's okay too.

I'll take this experience with me and try to make the best of it.

- Have you started dating? - No.

Ellen, how about you?

No, I've taken a long break from dating after this.

Wishing you both all the best. Thank you, Ellen and Fabian.

Aron and Angelica, the season's most unexpected breakup

was when it ended between you two.

I didn't understand anything. It feels like Aron didn't understand anything.

You two really seemed so right for each other

from the very first date in the pods.

Angelica, you chose to abruptly end the relationship.

Aron, had you seen this coming, or did it come as a shock to you? Tell me.

I don't know.

I have to…

- It feels difficult for me. Sorry. - Take your time.

There's no rush.

I want to start by saying that I think you are a wonderful person.

You have given me something that is truly one of the best experiences I've ever had.

And I really appreciate that.

But how it ended…

I felt like you betrayed me.

Not in that you left me, but in how you chose to do it.

Because we didn't have a conversation. We didn't come to any agreement.

If you had said to me, "You know what? I need this, I need that,"

okay, we can figure it out together.

But you left me on the side lines, and you made a decision like a judge.

I just thought, "Okay, she doesn't love me.

She looks at me like I'm the devil."

I told you several times,

"I don't need to do this. We can just date."

I didn't need to marry you. It was never a big deal.

You know that. We talked about that. And I meant it.

I just wanted to be with you.

How we solved that, if we did or didn't, was a completely different matter.

But you didn't give me that chance. You didn't give us that chance.

Before, you were also very considerate of my feelings.

We were very considerate of each other.

So it hurt me so much

that you could talk to me in a way that you hadn't before.

It felt like you hated me, and I didn't understand you.

So…

What happened to your feelings?

What happened to my feelings. I…

You're in a bubble. That's what it's like.

We were always together.

You didn't have time for yourself to really delve into what you're feeling.

And I…

Maybe it's a little obvious that I have some insecurities.

But I was very much influenced by what others thought and felt about us.

Getting validation from my friends meant a lot to me at that time.

It felt good, but at the same time, it was also a disadvantage for me.

It meant that I maybe didn't really think about what I actually felt.

The fact that others saw us as a perfect couple…

For me, it became, "Okay, it is good. Let's do it."

And it came to me, I felt it in my whole body,

that this wasn't right.

That feeling came to me suddenly

after the bachelorette party, when I was alone.

And I really understand your feelings.

Looking back on it, it was like I had a strong feeling that it wasn't right.

It was a mistake of mine that I just ran away. I did that.

I suddenly realized…

Everything has been so good and I really want this, and it feels good.

Then, all of a sudden, I get this strong feeling that it doesn't feel right.

Then I was just so damn scared. I just wanted to run away.

I wanted to silence everything after I realized that.

Do you think, Aron, that you understand what happened?

It's like she said, she ran away. I completely agree.

It's the same thing I've told Ibbe and Larse.

If it wasn't for them, I would probably still be heartbroken today.

But…

it was just that I didn't get what I needed.

I didn't get it confirmed, I didn't get any clarity about what actually happened.

And I appreciate that you can say that you ran away.

It means a lot to me, because it helps me to move on with my life.

What happened after this moment that we saw on your wedding day?

Did you stay in contact?

Very briefly.

But it wasn't good contact.

It wasn't…

I made some attempt to…

I just wanted to talk things through, really.

But then… it went wrong the time we actually met.

As I said, she'd already taken the step to leave.

I think she was stuck in what she'd decided.

She remained in that state.

Angelica, when you look back on it,

do you wish you had done anything differently after the breakup?

Yes, but maybe also…

to consider his feelings better and not just run away.

How did the rest of you react to their breakup?

We had just gotten married,

and then Aron called and said they broke up.

- And I was incredibly shocked. - We were both very shocked.

At our bachelor party we'd said how sure we were,

and Aniela told me that Angie was also sure.

It was incredibly tough, because we were so happy for each other.

I've never heard of or seen anyone who has…

evolved in the way that you have.

The way you describe how things have been in previous relationships.

I don't see a man with flaws, I see a man with…

You are such a complete man. I am inspired by you.

The way you stay strong, even when there are cracks in your relationship,

and yet you can still offer her that sense of security and warmth,

it's so incredibly beautiful to see.

And it hurts so much to see you going through this.

But you are such a wonderful guy and man. I want you to know that.

Brother.

I love you.

Thank you.

- It means so much. - You have nothing to be ashamed of.

How does it feel, Aron?

- Are you okay? - Yeah.

It feels…

Are a lot of emotions being stirred up now that you're back in the same room?

Yes.

I wasn't ready for it.

What are your feelings towards Aron today?

I like Aron as a person.

No bad feelings at all.

Aron, this clearly evokes a lot of feelings in you.

What are your feelings towards Angelica today?

I don't have feelings of love, but…

She's someone who had a large place in my heart very quickly

and led me to a feeling I haven't had before,

which I will never forget.

So I appreciate it.

She has so many wonderful qualities and traits.

I hope someone else gets to experience them,

and that you've learned not to run.

Yes, really.

It's been nine months since your breakup, on what was meant to be your wedding day.

I'm curious about what your lives look like.

Angelica, are you single?

No.

You've met someone?

Tell me.

No.

It's a secret.

But it feels good?

- Aron, are you single? - Yes, I'm single.

Have you started dating?

Yes. But it's been difficult to do that.

- I think it might be easier now. - I also think it'll be easier now.

You mean it like that.

- I meant emotionally. - DMs.

Thank you, Aron and Angelica, for sharing yourselves

and for allowing the viewers to follow this love story.

Many people have become invested in you. Thank you.

Love you.

I would like to say thank you

to all of you who have participated in this experiment.

Thank you to everyone who has watched and been engaged.

And thank you to the audience here. Thank you very much. Goodbye!